SV OU Rates

[north nimbus]

Having a phaser is really good in this team

[jaunty granite]

Oh true

I’ll put it over turn then

[tacit bluff]

yeah I agree

besides roar would help you in the event its a tera fire zamazenta

or tera fire dnite for that matter dnite can run anything

[gritty lake]

😔

[silver river]

Serious questions, when adding boots tusk to your team, should you go max hp - max speed or max atk - max speed.

Bc I've been doing max hp max speed since forever but i don't see others do it often, or at all

[tacit bluff]

It's personal preference

Or team dependent

If you're max attack max speed I think packing more hazard options like magic bounce or taunt users is a good idea in case tusk gets removed early

[wooden linden]

max hp is fine if you really need a general physical check

max atk is generally for a mix of power and utility

max atk also generally use boots to be able to spin without hazard chip

[faint vortex]

Built this team wanting to build around ogerpon and try movesets I never used on mons I use extensively. Flame away https://pokepast.es/7d4b36b952b3d7fc

[regal ginkgo]

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[hollow perch]

https://pokepast.es/8004cf5804e8664c

Is this team good?

[silver river]

Your zama has no EVs, but i assume it's max atk max speed jolly.
Try tera dark for stronger crunch
Tera steel for stronger heavy slam+resists
Tera fire if u really hate will-o or flame body.

[hollow perch]

Yeah it is I just forgot to put them

[gritty lake]

I'd make pech 228 defence bold

[hollow perch]

Oh yeah would timid darkrai be better?

[gritty lake]

And add a steel type 😭

[silver river]

Also, idk if popular take or not, just give the doggo its ball(life orb)
Let zama be the wallbreaker it's truly meant to be. Isn't that the point of the all out attacker zama set?

[gritty lake]

Yea otherwise valiant also shreds this

[hollow perch]

Idk who to replace

[silver river]

Replace lando with corv and hamurott with Ting

Idk tho

[gritty lake]

And get cooked by wake?

[empty verge]

Your team is not too bad ngl

Me think ice fang > heavy slam on zama though

For Gliscor

Also Primarina > sam

If you gonna do av that’s a better choice imo

This takes the pressure off Darkrai to answer stuff like Dragapult

[hollow perch]

Yeah

When I was trying this I got cooked by wash rotom lol

[empty verge]

Make sure you do tera steel on it

Rotom is pretty annoying to any team that’s not HO admittedly 8/10

Alternatively you could also do Slowking Galar > pecha (this gives future sight support to zama which helps it wall break)

Also ghold > prim (this still gives you a spin blocker and decent fairy check vs stuff like Val)

If you do ghold do balloon nasty plot

[fervent sluice]

you gonna let exca drop the bag on you like that? 😄

my favorite part is when they switch in ghold and get hit with rock tomb, even ruins the scarfers lol

[nocturne sable]

Exca when corv:

[hot dome]

This isn’t relevant to the conversation nor is this even a matchup Ghold has to worry about, don’t comment if you’re not experienced and skilled in the tier

[arctic frigate]

https://pokepast.es/b1c95519ae0e6b9a

[regal ginkgo]

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[north nimbus]

I’m ngl lack of proper ghost resist, ground, is just asking to get bullied to pult, dengo, raging bolt and friends

Dd kyurem is very random here along with iron Val

Feels like you would be better off with specs kyurem here or even boots, ting Lu > meowscarada, and zama > iron valiant

[low phoenix]

isnt that just the specs kyu team

but with zama instead of scarf rai

[north nimbus]

Yes

[arctic frigate]

ill just scrap it

[north nimbus]

that’s the thing about kyurem gking ace “balance”

Half of the time you end up around the same thing

But yeah I notice you really want to use dd kyurem

I say if you do have offense in ur mindset rather then balance/ no

Bo*

Cause majority of the time then you would be better off with dnite

[low phoenix]

dd kyurem is better on hyper offense

if you use it on offense you can for sure pair it with iron valiant

[arctic frigate]

im just gonna scrap the kyu then and go build something w some funky dnite set

cuz i dont like playin w hyper offense

feels pretty brainless to me. veil and then click

[low phoenix]

you can use standard dd on bulky offense as a cleaner

[arctic frigate]

mons dead onto the next one!

[low phoenix]

hyper offense isnt all veils

[arctic frigate]

ikik

[low phoenix]

or you can use the bulky dnite set on bulky offense/balance teams as an anti offense tool

[arctic frigate]

https://pokepast.es/f1b066db1f21329f

this is a team i stole from lax vid

without gking

when kyu is really the only breaker

so why does this one work?

[low phoenix]

wdym why this one works

its a balance

[arctic frigate]

Why is this a good team

[low phoenix]

because mixed kyu is hard for defensive teams to wall

and corv zam ting defensive cores are good

[arctic frigate]

So i could just smack a breaker add those 3 and then 2 mons that synergize with said breaker and be on my way

[empty verge]

Dd Kyu can work on a plethora of team styles not just one it just needs to proper mons surrounding it and the right utility options

In other words just making sure you have an out vs common Metagame threats

[arctic frigate]

Teambuilding might not be for me

Ive build 1 decent team so far

[north nimbus]

Team building takes time and a lot of trial and error

Like it will eventually click, and when it does you can get away with a lot of things when it comes with building

Tho you also gotta expand your horizons and mess around with all sorts of mons and different playstles as well

[arctic frigate]

Ive been trying hazardstack

Bulky

Bo

And now im trying balancr

https://pokepast.es/a4033b4a8140c779

This got me to like 174x

[north nimbus]

This looks solid

Kyu seems annoying but winnable

[arctic frigate]

https://pokepast.es/aa2aedcea9afe8e8

This was my first one but this shit gets 6 0d by meow

[north nimbus]

Yeah I was about to say this looks a bit dated

Like a team from 6 months ago

[arctic frigate]

Youd be right

https://pokepast.es/52513482c79b2595

Well back to the drawing board

[low phoenix]

Team matchup vs Kyu kinda rough but should be playable

[wooden linden]

i could see compressing pech and skarm into a ghold here

provides a kyu check and since you have a zama youre not that weak to gambit

[north nimbus]

I feel like they where showing an old team that they build not generally ask for a rate

[faint vortex]

Bumping

[low phoenix]

No ground switch in kinda Sus

also if you’re going to use trick gking just use black sludge at this point

I think zapdos over valiant works on your team

[stone sierra]

Could go weather ball zapdos in order to ohko gliscor

[faint vortex]

I thought of it but elected to go scarf to cripple defensive mons like lu, mola, the birds, pech, etc.

[faint vortex]

I like val for the speed tier, but I'm open to it

[wooden linden]

you can probably afford synthesis over spikes on wellspring here

offers better longevity for your sole ground resist

also if you really want to use trick

[faint vortex]

Thaat would be good, but what if I add zapdos?

[wooden linden]

You could

black sludge will work out here

[faint vortex]

I will make the change

[wooden linden]

idt zapdos is that needed here tbh

but you could try it over val

[faint vortex]

I may give it a shot. However would my speed tiering suffer a lot with taking out val?

[wooden linden]

the stuff that can outspeed pult like the booster mons cant really break through garg or glowking

[faint vortex]

I figured, but want to be sure

[wooden linden]

oh and btw

you should use timid pult

outspeeding zama is one of the main reasons to use pult

[faint vortex]

Oh yeah I will if I remove val

@low phoenix @wooden linden should I go offensive on zapdos or stick with defensive?

[wooden linden]

defensive tends to work out better

offensive zap are pretty much stuck to rain teams

you can just get zapdos to outspeed great tusk

[faint vortex]

Ok I can try that

[wooden linden]

oh and also make garg tera water instead of tera fairy

gholdengo can be pretty scary here

[faint vortex]

So for outspeeding tusk, I would need to change the nature and evs too drastically, so I will just stick with the defensive evs

[faint vortex]

I agree, but I think that would compromise me against dragons

[silver river]

https://pokepast.es/f17e1342eb15541c

[wooden linden]

thats true here

[faint vortex]

Cool team there. I would make valiant trick instead of destiny bond to cripple defensive mons

[wooden linden]

i didnt realize the lack of steel types

[faint vortex]

yeah val helped with that but now its gone

[wooden linden]

iron crown can work here def

dragon check and can still pivot here

[faint vortex]

I like crown, but in place of who?

[wooden linden]

i would say glowking just to experiment with

[faint vortex]

Also, doesnt ghold still have a field day with crown?

[faint vortex]

Worth a shot

[wooden linden]

tera water garg can def handle a ghold here if you already have a crown

so its still not the greatest mu

but it can be played around a little better

[faint vortex]

For ghold into my team right?

[wooden linden]

yes

[faint vortex]

ok

[low phoenix]

Defensive

[faint vortex]

I can try 2 versions of the team, one with crown, and see which is best

[gritty lake]

https://pokepast.es/03f4d9ce14d80172 the lack of immediate breaking power is tough

[regal ginkgo]

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[gritty lake]

Also dnite being the only eq/headlong switch is not ideal considering both tusk and treads get ice spinner and are faster

[trail whale]

Tbh I find it hard to tell what the team is going for

[gritty lake]

Wanted to do a more offensive hstack cuz otherwise ting lu is better on balanced hstack

[silver river]

https://pokepast.es/f17e1342eb15541c

[ashen ore]

anyone know why

[somber yacht]

hi

[ashen ore]

gg

use pokepaste pls @somber yacht

[somber yacht]

rate this from 1 to 10

[ashen ore]

use pokepaste

[somber yacht]

what is pokepaste

[ashen ore]

scroll down

in the builder

you will see

upload to pokepaste

click that

[somber yacht]

where to scroll down

[ashen ore]

on the same page as where u took ur screenshots

!pokepaste

[regal ginkgo]

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You can then take the link to your team and share that link to share the team with other people.

This command will be removed soon please use !psteams or !shareteam moving forward.

[ashen ore]

uhh

!shareteam

[regal ginkgo]

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[ashen ore]

same thing

here @somber yacht

[somber yacht]

https://pokepast.es/7c345caf53694270

[silver river]

I didn't know iron moth learned uturn I'm ngl

[edgy warren]

ur sets seem a little all over the place, id say just use the smogon sets for your mons unless you have something specific in mind

for instance, booster energy defensive mixed wake is very inefficient and kinda useless

and x scissor isnt very useful on kingambit unless u run into the 1 guy using wo chien

[edgy warren]

https://pokepast.es/2f00e6f6f5374945

balance team with as many immunities as i could fit

because it makes most choiced mons useless

im only missing ghost and dragon immunities

and grass i guess

[silver river]

Look for a sap sipper mon for grass immunity and a normal type mon for ghost immunity. And fairy for dragon immunity.

Azumarill is fairy type and has sap sipper, so that's your dragon and grass immunity in 1

Replace wogerpon, tusk and mandi with sap sipper azu, water absorb cacturne, and lando, and you have more immunities than before.

[barren ridge]

And a substantially worse team. Sap sipper azu is not doing anything. It’s a dead teamslot

[silver river]

Walls Wogerpon pretty well

[barren ridge]

And does nothing else

Wabs cacturne is even worse

Please don’t comment on peoples teams here in the RMT channels if you have no idea what you’re talking about

[edgy warren]

ok see youre correct about more immunities

but the team would not be good with cacturne and sap sipper azu xd

azu is a fun mon but it's already not incredible with its better ability

and walling woger is only good if you can threaten it/possess consistent recovery

ty for the suggestions but im good xd

[silver river]

Dawg you want more immunities or nah

[edgy warren]

no i just wanted to build a good team around immunities, not build a team that has as many immunities as possible

maybe i worded my og msg wrong

i just randomly noticed heatran/waterpon is a core with both strong offensive and defensive capabilities

and rolled w that

[silver river]

? He was trying to make a team with as many immunities as possible.
I don't see how giving advice on ways to add even more immunities got to you as having "no Idea what you're talking about."
Because i very clearly did.
Please don't take your irl frustration out onto people just trying to help.

[barren ridge]

This would not be the place to ask after a gimmick team based solely around maximizing immunities at the expense of being good. That is not what they were asking for.

Sap sipper azu and wabs cacturne are not good options for an SVOU team.

And I’m telling you to follow the channel rules. Bad feedback is worse than no feedback. If you don’t know what you’re talking about then lurk and learn more.

[gritty lake]

what am i doing wrong here 😔

no immediate breaking power and blanks into the most common pokemon in the tier

[tacit bluff]

uhhhhhhhhhhhhh

[elder knoll]

Are you going for balance?

[gritty lake]

no

[tacit bluff]

I think its BO

hai pinkstork

[gritty lake]

id use lu for balance

[elder knoll]

also how many god damned chomp teams do you have

😭

[gritty lake]

3

[elder knoll]

Hi Nugget

[gritty lake]

for sv ou

[tacit bluff]

anyway

some of these choices are kinda odd

to me anyway

weavile is fine but I think I'd much rather ogerpon

especially cause you have decent hazard control

[gritty lake]

i hv a ogerpon version

[tacit bluff]

you still answer dragons fine cause you have prim

[gritty lake]

so just oger>weav

[tacit bluff]

yeah ogerpon sorta solves the breaker problem

scarf ghold is fine ig, you do need speed control

yeah I think thats it tbh

the team looks ok

[gritty lake]

ill do encore ogerpon for gambit

[tacit bluff]

idk if I like double hazard chomp ur not rly ting lu and you get worn down quickly

you could maybe go one hazard

and give rocks to treads maaaybe

[elder knoll]

dual hazard chomp

is free entry for defog Corv

[tacit bluff]

yeah ik tankchomp is the dex set but its a bit

meh these days icl

[gritty lake]

and guess what mon os corv completely helpless against

[tacit bluff]

cause ting does its job better

[elder knoll]

you only can get 1 hazard down

[tacit bluff]

I mean its probably fine

[elder knoll]

the switch is then forced to Ghold

[tacit bluff]

cause its not like tankchomp has anything better to run

[gritty lake]

fair enough

[tacit bluff]

ironically tankchomp works better on balance than BO

where it can realistically be paired with pieces like alo to keep making progress

and also be an absolute nuiscance for physical attackers

its almost a ferrothorn cosplay

with phasing

[gritty lake]

hm

[tacit bluff]

like with BO tbhhhh

you want more aggressive or at least progress making hazard setters

phasing is ok hazard progress but I'm talking like

lando

who can taunt

gliscor who can click toxic and knock and be incredibly annoying

hamu who yk

[gritty lake]

chomp "blocks" spin by existing

[tacit bluff]

spams ceaseless edge

spinblocking isn't rly ur issue here

you have a whole ass gholdengo with a scarf too

chomp is good for that don't get me wrong but the main issue is that its not rly fitting the pace of the team

tankchomp is an annoying bastard who phases and punishes physical attackers while getting healed by alo so that if hazards get cleared for whatever reason it can come back on the field and click its buttons again

its main niche over ting lu is that it can be a massive contact punish and genuinely wall off targets like zamazenta

who would otherwise threaten ting lu

which is certainly not bad but thats why you'd wanna replace it on a balance team

[gritty lake]

i dont know what to think

[nocturne sable]

No Ting Lu?

[edgy warren]

https://pokepast.es/978aeeab9923635e heres another version

w lu

[regal ginkgo]

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[low phoenix]

did you forget to change teras with ting lu

[obtuse harness]

https://pokepast.es/7cc404a44eb4fbfb

[regal ginkgo]

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[gritty lake]

!gen9ousamples

[regal ginkgo]

Gen 9 OU Samples: https://www.smogon.com/forums/threads/3712513/

[edgy warren]

ah yes

should be poison or smthn

[low phoenix]

yea

also hazard stack with g weezing is kinda antithetical imo

cuz it relies on keeping hazards on the field and winning the war of attrition with a team that mostly ignores hazards itself

[edgy warren]

tru

it wasnt intended to be hazard stack originally just kinda turned out that way

[harsh ivy]

https://pokepast.es/245c293090e30122 can someone help with my team pls? i copied it off of a natdex team i thought was cool, and i replaced ferrothorn with tusk

id really like to keep iron val, raging bolt, and alomoloa but the set life orb moves i am wiling to change. I am cool to switch any others! ty

[hasty otter]

https://pokepast.es/a961a97e5f89694a

Use this as a blueprint and let us know what you’re building balance bulky offense hyper offense

Def like the pairing of shuca slowbro g with av alo

[dire plaza]

Can someone rate my team and see if there's something wrong or can be improved? Thanks: https://pokepast.es/7c0b9d4f54d5e0da

[gritty lake]

Meh

Chomp sucks

[dire plaza]

Bro thinks Iron Thorns is viable

💔💔🥀🥀

Anyoneeeee elseeew

[gritty lake]

When did I say that

[dire plaza]

Some things don't need to be said

I asked for a team rating

Not your personal opinions on pokemon 🥰

[edgy warren]

i replaced gweez with tusk but idk team feels week to wpon now

might just rebuild again 😴

[gritty lake]

Buddy you don't know me

If there's a guy who wants to make chomp work

It's me

[stone sierra]

This is just the sample kyurem team but shittier

Use that instead

[arctic frigate]

https://pokepast.es/a3f0df155eca3f01

[regal ginkgo]

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[empty verge]

Not a bad team but scarf kyurem is really odd ngl

I suggest making it specs

[north nimbus]

But then no speed control

[empty verge]

2. Make Kingambit corvknight this gives you a decent pivot and defog granted proper pressure is applied on ghold.

3. This means you can do another ground type landorus-T this can give you stealth rock

Then you can do Zamazenta > tusk

Which gives you proper speed control

Lando > zap

[north nimbus]

I

[empty verge]

For clarification

[north nimbus]

Don’t think I agree with lando-t

Cause now u just get boned with by ghost

[empty verge]

Ah yeah

What you think then

[north nimbus]

Truthfully I think the squad is fine as is, just might want to reconsider kyurem for something like pult in its place, and maybe make this Tera fire gambit and Tera ghost tusk

And uhh toxic gking would probably be better here tbh

Could even consider low kick on gambit

[harsh ivy]

Actually I think balance

For the paste, is there any way you can put in raging bolt again?

[arctic frigate]

ena?

over kyu

[north nimbus]

Me thinks pult would be better

[arctic frigate]

specs?

[north nimbus]

Yur

[arctic frigate]

many thanks

lowking over what on kingambit?

[north nimbus]

kowtow

tho only do so if u feel opposing gambit mu is annoying

[arctic frigate]

i can superpower on woger

and thne maybe knock on tusk

[north nimbus]

ehh superpower on woger isnt hitting much, plus ur just weakening urself, especially since woger invites a lot of things that want to check woger but will get knocked

[arctic frigate]

u right

alr ty

[arctic frigate]

Tera ghost has saved me like a billion times more then fire wouldve

cuz espeed

vacuum wave and such

[north nimbus]

i understand but thats why you also got tera ghost tusk in the back, and also the reason why tera fire would be a lot better here is how vulnerable this team is against wisp pult

[arctic frigate]

yeah ur right actually

[north nimbus]

ur gambit gets crippled by wisp and ur basically fighting a rougher game

you have gking for most vacuum wave users

and zappy, gambit, tusk vs dnite

[arctic frigate]

tyty

[safe field]

https://pokepast.es/67d9b1550d1ce00f

prolly not the best but i really don't wanna lose to fat hazard stack teams

[arctic frigate]

This team is rlly hard into webs

[stone sierra]

https://play.pokemonshowdown.com/view-teams-view-1141598-1141598 made an apple balance, thoughts?

[empty verge]

🫡

[north nimbus]

hmm makes sense, tho you have to go all boots or change a bunch of mons around, tho idt it’s impossible

[north nimbus]

use pokepaste

[stone sierra]

!shareteam

[regal ginkgo]

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[low phoenix]

I don’t really know what hoopa is doing in this team ngl

[north nimbus]

Prob balance/ fat breaker

Tho this team just lets iron valiant come in and win

[low phoenix]

I agree

I think replacing hoopa with molt could be worthwhile

[arctic frigate]

What would u reccomend

[safe field]

i don't like using molt cuz when i face garg i feel like i can never do anything with it

yea hoopau was just a fat breaker since i don't wanna lose to fat teams

[stone sierra]

Molt learns u turn no?

[north nimbus]

By a whole slate of changes, I mean like more change you practically get an entire team

Tho I feel the team is fine, can’t counter everything fwiw

[safe field]

it does but then i face heatran and don't have scorching

i just don't like molt in general

i agree val gives the team trouble tho

[safe field]

thoughts on sciz over hoopau?

[low phoenix]

Great tusk hamurott Ghold hazard stack should be fine to deal with garg

Hoopa isn’t all that good with ting Lu everywhere and it being very easy to scare off with u turn

[low phoenix]

Heatran is niche enough to not be a core threat to worry about

[safe field]

fair enough, what about espeed dnite instead to let it stay more offensive? or do u think molt is still better

[low phoenix]

molt is your glue vs iron valiant

keep it

[arctic frigate]

No but it sjoudnt insta lose

I thonk thats why i had ena

Cuz it fucks webs

[turbid kelp]

https://pokepast.es/fb5a681dc92f8626
I feel pretty weak to water

[north nimbus]

Reason why I like pult more here is extra assurance vs woger since you have to Tera ur zappy like 75% to ensure you don’t get clobbered by woger

Tho you can also mess around with air ballon gambit and cb clear body pult

[hot dome]

thats cuz you have no spdef mons in general lol

i cant leave a longer rate cuz busy rn but you literally have zero spdef mons and your only water resist is latios which isn't going to be very bulky

[elder knoll]

The easiest way to fix it would be making Molt spdef

[turbid kelp]

Isn't molt supposed to be physically defensive to spread burn? I think I'm better off using a different mon with more special defense instead

[hot dome]

yeah, this team has more issues in general lowkey

you don't need 3 phys def mons, for example

[turbid kelp]

Probably molt > glow king then?

[arctic frigate]

Does clear body work on webs?

[north nimbus]

Yes

[arctic frigate]

just played one vs the specs kyu sample

felt pretty good

i think im doing toxic over twave like u said for bolt

[north nimbus]

Yeah that would be a lot better

[arctic frigate]

does this break stall tho?

[elder knoll]

Molt has a good defensive profile for being a spdef guy while also still being able to punish u-turn

You resist fairy which is super rare

For a defensive guy with actual longevity

That isn’t super passive like Toxapex

spdef Molt has been used in tour and high ladder before

[north nimbus]

you def do

[jaunty granite]

@empty verge @north nimbus how to fight wake w this

Any time I match into that demon I feel obligated to save tera for molt

I assume just punch w hsam otherwise? Or rk with that or darkrai

[north nimbus]

Did I rate this team I honestly forgot

cause wake does seem mad annoying outside of av crown

[stone sierra]

Personally I’ve found that using the best water type in the game (garg) works p well against wake

[jaunty granite]

Nop it was wildfire

I think you commented on wisp over uturn on molt but yea

If you have any suggestions I’m all ears (unless it’s changing the sam)

[north nimbus]

Imma be real

I’m a d1 Sammy hater

[jaunty granite]

D:

[north nimbus]

Cause I feel then you would have to do like gking > iron crown, and then most likely Corv > molt, but then no phaser hmm

Or if you wanna be ballsy and do specs primarina > kyurem but then raging bolt is heavily worse

Like Bolt and wake are actually big issues to this squad the more I look at it and probably wants gking here instead

[jaunty granite]

Gking would be baller indeed

Compensating for no steel is tough tho

[north nimbus]

Yeah cause then you would do a lot of changes

[jaunty granite]

Thoughts on uh

Treads over tusk

idk if that’s worth it

But it does give a steel while also keeping a ground and hazards+control

[wooden linden]

Id say keeping tusk here is fine

Crown is a pretty sturdy fairy resist so its not that big of a deal

[jaunty granite]

Ye but tyson was suggesting putting gking in here

[wooden linden]

I will say you need a knock off user here somewhere

[jaunty granite]

Most likely over crown

Otherwise I’d keep tusk for sure

[wooden linden]

Glowking can work yeah

Just put treads over tusk here then

And give that treads knock off

Though you dont have an freeze dry resist which does suck here

[empty verge]

Yeah you would do gking over crown

But I knew you didn’t want to drop it at first

[jaunty granite]

I did say that ye

That’s mb

[north nimbus]

This could be

[jaunty granite]

Honestly I liked the combo of the two but I am a sam enthusiast

[north nimbus]

Then zama 4 attacks > kyurem

[north nimbus]

fraud Mon

[jaunty granite]

So as long as I can rock w it I’m fine

[empty verge]

Idk man I do like scarf still

💀

[jaunty granite]

Yknow I actually did have a zama on the original version

[north nimbus]

Man the only relevant sets imo are boots and Av

[empty verge]

Boots encore?

Or sum

[jaunty granite]

But I swapped for other speed control after changing lando into tusk

Boots encore goes brazy

[empty verge]

Av still feels funny to me

😭

[jaunty granite]

4 attacks zama is what cc crunch sedge slam?

[empty verge]

I never liked it

[jaunty granite]

Or ice fang mayb for last

[north nimbus]

Yeah

Last you might want

Ice fang yeah

[empty verge]

Ice fang

[north nimbus]

But cc crunch sedge are a given

[jaunty granite]

Bet bet

[empty verge]

Can I see current paste

[north nimbus]

I’ce fang just better here for like gliscor and dnite

[empty verge]

^

[jaunty granite]

Oh I’m not at pc

[empty verge]

Oh ight whenever then

[jaunty granite]

I’ce

[empty verge]

Im here

[wooden linden]

Samu can prob work as av here

Sd black glasses kinda meh

[empty verge]

In theory

[jaunty granite]

It can but I specifically want sd

[wooden linden]

You could do like

Rocky helmet sd

[low phoenix]

you can do webs

sd hamurott best fits on webs imo

[jaunty granite]

I did also consider webs

[empty verge]

Yeah that set does work on webs

Prob something you can consider in the future

[north nimbus]

Does black glasses samu even muscle through fat

[empty verge]

Tera dark

[low phoenix]

its speed issues dont matter as much and it works well with gholdengo which is a hard requirement on webs anyways

[wooden linden]

Prob muscles through corv

[empty verge]

Is nasty

[wooden linden]

Not sure about dozo

[north nimbus]

As long as it can muscle through like corv pex then I guess it’s fine

[empty verge]

Black glasses

Tera dark

Specifically

[low phoenix]

noone wanna switch to a +2 black glasses tera dark ceaseless edge

[north nimbus]

Wait

[wooden linden]

The team needs some knock off support here

[north nimbus]

What the ghost resist in this team

[wooden linden]

Ig samu and rai

Thats about it

[low phoenix]

if your team has breakers that make progress through sheer power

[empty verge]

Sam and rai can work

[low phoenix]

you don't necessarily need knock off

[north nimbus]

[low phoenix]

look at the specs kyu and keldeo teams

[north nimbus]

Well it has trick

It’s practically almost the same thing but not really

[empty verge]

Aren’t you just trying to switch into sball

💀

[wooden linden]

Samu is pretty frail

[low phoenix]

hamu switches into shadow ball like once

[empty verge]

Rai tho

💀

[wooden linden]

It could a couple of times

[empty verge]

My fav ghost resist is av prim

[wooden linden]

Mostly worried about make it rain

[elder knoll]

[empty verge]

Ok let me stop shitposting 😭

[north nimbus]

Good trollage

[jaunty granite]

Ham takes 3 sballs from ghold

[north nimbus]

the main issue is just ghold

[jaunty granite]

Assuming it’s not like specs

[north nimbus]

We have other prevelant ghost, and they carry a lot of coverage

[empty verge]

Most likely facing scarf or bulky nasty plot sets

[north nimbus]

Pult, pecha, ghold are the main things you gotta take into account

[wooden linden]

Wait does the team have a steel

I forgot

[north nimbus]

Like twave dengo actually makes this teams life miserable once treads is weaken / gone

[empty verge]

He using treads

Iirc

We don’t got the paste yet

[wooden linden]

Hm

Treads prob can work fine enough

[empty verge]

That’s the main issue building with sam though huh

[wooden linden]

Samu is just really frail without av

[north nimbus]

Well it wouldn’t be an issue if it was Av

[wooden linden]

Like its hard carried by typing

[low phoenix]

sam is an aggressive hazard setter

you need to use it for its ability to do damage and make progress simutaneously

[jaunty granite]

at PC now

https://pokepast.es/1ebc48267474ba61

current draft

forgot to change zama tera

but yea

[wooden linden]

Does the team seem iffy vs wellspring here

Not really a solid water resist without tera

[north nimbus]

That too

The issues are becoming more apparent

[jaunty granite]

maybe it's just webs time

[wooden linden]

Tbf wellspring is very hard to check

So maybe have like

A pult here somewhere

[north nimbus]

I was thinking maybe dd nite, Av Sammy, and roar zama could prob

Check everything we need

[wooden linden]

Do we go tb dnite or just espeed here

[north nimbus]

Just espeed

[jaunty granite]

rrrrrr but my SD

[north nimbus]

@jaunty granite this probably covers everything we need tho no sd yeah

[empty verge]

^

Make webs 😭

[wooden linden]

Hold on lemme get my av samu spread rq

[empty verge]

I’ll rate it id needed

[low phoenix]

yea

[north nimbus]

It’s the most logical without having to gut more of the team

[low phoenix]

just do webs

[jaunty granite]

yea atp it's just a webs angle

[north nimbus]

Yeah sd samu is def better in more aggresive offense

makes sense

[low phoenix]

ogerpon w has a time on 4/6 mons

[jaunty granite]

the whole idea of the team is SD so

[north nimbus]

fraud Mon , but we did what we could

[jaunty granite]

tyson I can't believe I've posted two teams since coming back and you changed SD sam to AV on both of them

it be ur own

[wooden linden]

Av samu is just splashable

[north nimbus]

It’s just

Sd Sammy is just better in more aggresive teams tbh

Cause otherwise why isn’t this just sd gambit

[jaunty granite]

fair

[north nimbus]

especially when you slap another non bulky dark / garg

[jaunty granite]

aight I will investigate webs

maybe I'll have other ideas that are slappers

[wooden linden]

There is a webs server iirc

[jaunty granite]

a what now

[empty verge]

Pon gambit dengo attack booster treads

Tera fairy enam I heard

[low phoenix]

you can try sd lando

webs specific set that not alot of ppl prepare for

[north nimbus]

Use np deos

[empty verge]

Tusk is also good

[jaunty granite]

now THAT is technology

[north nimbus]

understated mon rn

[empty verge]

Attack booster

[north nimbus]

also enam as well

Two really underrated good mons rn

[low phoenix]

not a rate question but u got any np deos teams

i seen it a good bit in wcop replays

[north nimbus]

I don’t

Been meaning to cook with it

[empty verge]

Yeah tera fairy enam right

?

[north nimbus]

Just been busy especially with a lot of shi going on as of late

[low phoenix]

aight

i rarely build on my own these days

most of my ou teams are ripped these days

[north nimbus]

Fairy stellar ground are all good tbh

I don’t like stealing because that to me is lazy

[empty verge]

You get the contrary boost vs matchups having ace @jaunty granite

[jaunty granite]

[empty verge]

I steal in OU I’m original in natdex

[arctic frigate]

Mhg just played vs that leavanny sun team

And band pult absolutley 6 0 him

Ty for the suggestion

[north nimbus]

Fasho

[jaunty granite]

https://pokepast.es/5c15c1742c58b072

@north nimbus @empty verge @low phoenix draft

shit mana has no EVs LOL

just assume max max

[north nimbus]

Me thinks you do 4 attacks enam

[low phoenix]

or specs

so you goob cinderace

[jaunty granite]

goobin

[low phoenix]

pixie plate could be heat if you realy dont wanna lock in

[jaunty granite]

tbh I did not know what to put for last on enam so hwish was just there

[low phoenix]

sub cm can even be a choice

[jaunty granite]

I did look at cm first

[low phoenix]

imo wogerpon swords dance over manaphy

since you have no other speed control

and a knocker would synergize well with webs

[jaunty granite]

yea mana was

filler

I've never been much of an HO player

wog makes sense tho

last is whip on that?

[low phoenix]

swords dance ivy cudget horn leech/power whip knock off/play rough

[jaunty granite]

ooh horn leech

[low phoenix]

although i think you should use knock off since you are mainly using webs for speed control

[jaunty granite]

ye

[jaunty granite]

what would the last be

my default is focus but I already have two steel killer moves

sludge bomb...?

[low phoenix]

4 attacks is usually superpower

[jaunty granite]

is that legit just

for gamb

I mean fair if so but damn

[low phoenix]

free attack and defense boost is neat

[jaunty granite]

I

forgot it has contrary

[low phoenix]

or tera blast

with stellar

you should use psyshock

over dazzling glem on gholdengo

for stall

[jaunty granite]

ig I have two other fairies if need be yea

keep tera fairy tho? or switch it up

[low phoenix]

tera fairy is still fine

[jaunty granite]

https://pokepast.es/7ec5afc99c24adcb

updated vers

pixie plate is heater tbh

[north nimbus]

Looks good

[jaunty granite]

pog

finally I can keep SD

ty as usual gamers

[empty verge]

Goat

Attack booster is also an option on tusk

Its preference though

Gl man

[low phoenix]

i tried out your team

soft sand/earth plate enam is heat too

you ohko non hp invested ace

[jaunty granite]

I’ll note that

[low phoenix]

yea i just realized what calcs to try lmao

[somber yacht]

hi

[jaunty granite]

I have come to the realization that I lack rocks

is webs + ceaseless enough or

I would go rocks > cc on tusk if anything

[wooden linden]

webs dont need rocks really

ceaseless is good enough here

[stone sierra]

You gotta run the infamous webs sweeper
Kleavor
Jokes aside I don’t think webs really needs other hazards, I think the webs team that got to the highest elo only ran webs

Also why bee over araq?

[jaunty granite]

honestly there's literally no specific reason but the raters didn't say anything about it

[wooden linden]

both are fine

[empty verge]

Nah you don’t really need rocks

Since webs the main priority

[jaunty granite]

aye aye

[low phoenix]

^

[nocturne sable]

https://pokepast.es/b54634ba07f17a37 I’m curious about leech seed arboliva but not sure about it in a gholdengo meta. Would like to keep LO zama , moltres and arboliva if possible and maybe replace one of Gliscor/bolt for a more reliable Kyu check

[regal ginkgo]

New [Gen 9] OU RMT @north nimbus, @tacit bluff, @alpine hornet, @low phoenix, @empty verge, @trail whale, @unkempt bough, @echo rampart. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

[hot dome]

Let me save you some time, arboliva is just ass

[nocturne sable]

Fair enough, i would just build around LO zama then

[hot dome]

Its defensive profile is extremely poor, and its leech seed based gameplay doesn’t work since it falls over anyways to most threats, since they’ll be packing some form of ice/fire/fighting move

[elder knoll]

holy shit that Mon is a demon

with Tera

1800-1900s ladies and gentlemen

[tacit bluff]

That's such a banger custom avatar

[alpine hornet]

yeah if you really wanna use arboliva i think ur better off going like lorb sower or custap harvest on sun idt leech seed is anywhere near the play

that said i think you go band zama here and drop arbo

for like dual hazards ting

[nocturne sable]

Dual hazard with Gweez?

[alpine hornet]

i mean ur running sd scor

even w weez u want breaking force

[nocturne sable]

Fair enough

[alpine hornet]

ig u could go like hazardless and run facade eq scor and secondary removal over arbo

but i dont like this team’s breaking force if u go that route

[nocturne sable]

What are your thoughts on tinka, does it help with the Kyu Mu?

[alpine hornet]

i feel like if u go tink u go a bootspam route and drop weez then make za boots

i feel like tink and weez tend to enable different structures

[nocturne sable]

So if I wanted to improve Kyu MU what Mon should I go with

Glowking ig? Gives Fsight for Zama too

[low phoenix]

i fought her earlier today

[north nimbus]

This could work

[spice hound]

hi guys i require assistance with this rain team: https://pokepast.es/3c40320ad5cf88a3

i've undergone several versions due to changes suggested by people/friends who r better at the game

but after all this i've managed to somehow lose over 100 lp (probably by rage queuing but still...)

and am thinking abt just tearing it down and restarting from the ground up entirely

i've had a lot of trouble with the typical threats - glowking, kyurem, other wogerpons, raging bolt

and also with keeping hazards off (ting-lu)

if anyone happens to have some advice plz ping me so i dont miss it tysm in advance

oh also here's links to posts i made in smogon forums and r/stunfisk ft some of the old versions:

https://www.smogon.com/forums/threads/dont-rain-on-my-parade-rain-team.3766116/
https://www.reddit.com/r/stunfisk/comments/1lbjp2v/rmt_sv_ou_rain_team/

Protolithic's suggestions helped for a while but i ended up getting hardstuck and eventually dropping...

[north nimbus]

Hoenstly rain is kinda one dimensional, generally playing very aggressive and not so much carrying about hazards, if ur concerned about hazard treads is always a nice option, as far as the other mons go woger is generally always going to be problematic, alongside kyurem unless you slap scizor in here since most of time raging bolt gets denied by Lu or treads rain structure

[spice hound]

i see, so basically not much i can do then?

ik i want to be on the offensive a lot cuz that is the nature of the team but my annoyance with hazards is that they chip away when i get my sweepers out (barra, wogerpon, kingdra etc) and when the opponent inevitably swaps out to something that checks the mon i'd either have to pivot (and lose momentum + get more chip on whoever switches in) or sack it

[elder knoll]

Weather ball bolt Tera water can beat Lu

[spice hound]

scizor was suggested previously so maybe that could be a good choice, id assume i'd take out like clef or smth

yeah i was thinking abt swapping zapdos for raging bolt but wasnt sure if hed fit

[spice hound]

is that the only thing realistically to improve on the comp though? im fine with changing the core/identity of the team entirely and swapping several mons if needed, really the only thing i care abt is that its rain

ik its like kinda in the shitter in terms of weathers rn but i love rain so

[elder knoll]

If you’re okay with

some crack crack suggestions

I can offer some

[spice hound]

how crack r we talking lmfao

[elder knoll]

Slightly unhinged

[spice hound]

lets hear it

i got nothing to lose

[elder knoll]

Ok rest Manaphy

[regal ginkgo]

Manaphy (Gen 9)

Typing

Water

Abilities

0: Hydration

Base Stats (BST: 600)

100 / 100 / 100 / 100 / 100 / 100

Weight

1.4 kg (20 BP)

Gender Rate

Genderless

Hydration (Gen 9)

This Pokemon has its non-volatile status condition cured at the end of each turn if Rain Dance is active. This effect is prevented if this Pokemon is holding a Utility Umbrella.

[elder knoll]

Under rain you basically have a bulky breaker

That cannot be stopped by status

and can heal off all damage

You also have the potential to blast past Lu and Glowking

[arctic frigate]

i fucking hate that piece off shiet

that made my live miserable as gen 8 nd stall player

[elder knoll]

Manaphy helps with the Lu weakness bolt normally has to deal with it

And is generally good into balance structures

Which are popular

[spice hound]

huhhhh

okay that was quite crackhead

like i can see it

but would that rly work

and who would i even change if i put her in

[elder knoll]

Kingdra probably

[spice hound]

i have no swift swimmers then though

[elder knoll]

Skewda?

[spice hound]

i used to but i took him out for clef

cuz i figure i alr had woger in

what would the team look like for this manaphy strat that u propose then

[elder knoll]

Peli/bolt/skewda/manaphy/AV treads

last slot can be like

uh…

Something that also beats Pon

[spice hound]

ill look into it lol

appreciate it

[north nimbus]

No rock setter ?

[elder knoll]

Nah it’s basically sun

gogogo

[north nimbus]

But sun also has rock setters

[elder knoll]

not always

[hot dome]

Rain honestly just sucks in this current metagame wellspring is everywhere and so is Ting Lu

Wish it was better but it’s unfortunately ass

[spice hound]

yeah : (

i mean tbf ig its been a long time coming considering how great it was in past gens vs other weathers

pinkacross ranked it like the second worst weather after snow lmfao

and even then i think theres an argument to be made that snow is better thanks to aurora veil and kyurem

but i dug this hole so imma sit in it

[low phoenix]

Rain is relegated to….Barbra skewda as it’s only rain abuser

When dragonite and glowking are very popular mons rain is gonna have a hard time

[alpine furnace]

I run a team with lu, tinka, gweez defensive core

Dniteas the bulky sweeper.

[edgy warren]

what does ting lu do to rain xd

[hot dome]

shit on bolt and with tera water, everything else

[edgy warren]

not really lol bolt gets wball

and skewda just flip turns back into its electric if lu teras

[hot dome]

weather ball doens't do enough to ting lu while eq certainly does do enough back, and skewda will usually click liquidation to try and take out ting lu + even if you flip turn nothing wants to switch in since even your electric (bolt) will take massive damage from eq

[low phoenix]

https://pokepast.es/ce70ef4cdd6ee9ab

Prob a redundant question but wanted to make an offensive ace team how does it look?

And yes Ik it looks like an old sample team but with 2 mons swapped

i think it looks fine but i like asking other ppl when teambuilding to make sure

[plucky hare]

https://pokepast.es/64965f6a657bdbd5

[regal ginkgo]

New [Gen 9] OU RMT @north nimbus, @tacit bluff, @alpine hornet, @low phoenix, @empty verge, @trail whale, @unkempt bough, @echo rampart. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

[potent rivet]

uh dawg

[plucky hare]

ik its st*ll

[potent rivet]

you have a tera dark clodsire

what is ghold even doing here

[plucky hare]

air baloon gholdengo 😦

[potent rivet]

it's stall dawg

[plucky hare]

im not sure but curse feels wierd

[north nimbus]

Idk why clod is even using curse in the first place

[plucky hare]

idunno

[potent rivet]

^

[north nimbus]

Then again clod is kinda mid

[potent rivet]

it's good into breakers like np pech

[plucky hare]

hey dont say that about my perfect derpy boy

[potent rivet]

but it should just be gliscor here no?

[plucky hare]

aight

[north nimbus]

Np pecha is like uncommon

[potent rivet]

and then make blissey CM

[plucky hare]

CM?

[north nimbus]

Calm mind

With sball Tera dark, you basically just destroy on every possible ghost in the tier

[plucky hare]

btw why is gliscor 72 speed in the guessed spread?

what does it outspeed?

[low phoenix]

dont use guessed spread tbh

if you dont know what evs to use just use the smog set

[plucky hare]

aight

[elder knoll]

Curse clod

Is basically curse Dozo

but more special bulk

[hot dome]

Don’t bother with curse clod base clod isn’t even that good on stall, as much as it pains me to say

You’d much rather have amnesia/toxic to handle spattack threats

[round portal]

is polteageist tera ground a real set?

helps it beat sand and can set up into a lot more mons

[north nimbus]

this type of question is better asked in #comp-general , only ask for

[round portal]

mb

[hollow frost]

https://pokepast.es/36bed46f8256cb20 rate this

i wantted a balanced team

[stone sierra]

Prolly gonna want to go spdef ting lu instead of physical

[hollow frost]

alr

any better sweeeprs then what i got for this teaam or no

[stone sierra]

Team is more of a BO than a balance tbh

Dozo doesn’t belong

[hollow frost]

corviknight?

[stone sierra]

Also booster energy iron valiant is a p inconsistent set, I won’t tell you what to replace bc I don’t know what to put there instead

But I’ll just try and point out anything that doesn’t belong

[hollow frost]

it activates his ability tho

else his ability useless

[stone sierra]

Yes but only once and if your opponent has a consistent check to your set then you’re kinda boned

It’s inconsistent

Sometimes booster speed works, sometimes it doesn’t

[hollow frost]

life orb

[stone sierra]

Check out the smogon iron valiant sets

There are a lot

[hollow frost]

alr

who should i replacee

dozo with

i used to have tozapex

[stone sierra]

Like I said I won’t tell you what to replace so just wait for a good player

It’s p late so idk if any will show up

I’d recommend looking at !gen9ousamples if you’re a beginner

Lots of fun teams here

!gen9ousamples

[regal ginkgo]

Gen 9 OU Samples: https://www.smogon.com/forums/threads/3712513/

[stone sierra]

Making your own team is hard if you don’t know the metagame well yet

[hollow frost]

or ima try ho

[alpine hornet]

lowk this is not entirely true but it is very niche

if anything curse is easier to fit on stall than amnesia lately

[alpine hornet]

???

brother what

[stone sierra]

It’s what I’ve been told a lot

[hollow frost]

everythin on smogon is booster energy

[alpine hornet]

by whom 😭

[stone sierra]

Only person I can recall is a pinkaross video

But I know other people have told me that

[alpine hornet]

anyways yeah dozo is just not conducive with the rest of this team and the ting set isnt right for the remaining 4 guys either as they seem to lead towards ho, is that what you were thinking?

[hollow frost]

i had toxapex before

[alpine hornet]

this feels like something you must have misunderstood

[hollow frost]

i have a ho team

[alpine hornet]

if you’re trying to lead more into the ting + pex/dozo balance that works but would need much more heavy changes

[hollow frost]

i lead great tusk

[alpine hornet]

wait so what are you thinkin

[hollow frost]

i messed the set up

my other one had hazard placement

sum was off

this my ho but i got the sample tema one to gotta try that

https://pokepast.es/3d2cf746e71227b9

[regal ginkgo]

New [Gen 9] OU RMT @north nimbus, @tacit bluff, @alpine hornet, @low phoenix, @empty verge, @trail whale, @unkempt bough, @echo rampart. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

[somber yacht]

hi anyone up to rate my team

[silver river]

https://pokepast.es/1977591055e62b37
Is offensive. Can confirm.

[somber yacht]

is garchomp better for hazard setter or is glimmora or gliscor better

[lethal sun]

https://pokepast.es/1b82b179cafb4a9c

[lethal sun]

unburden 👍

[hollow perch]

How is this team?

https://pokepast.es/05903b51692de19d

[charred trellis]

https://pokepast.es/59a786d2619c63a4

rate my W team thx

[regal ginkgo]

New [Gen 9] OU RMT @north nimbus, @tacit bluff, @alpine hornet, @low phoenix, @empty verge, @trail whale, @unkempt bough, @echo rampart. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

[modern jungle]

https://pokepast.es/886b51b1e0eb6b1f

[north nimbus]

this looks relatively fine but could honestly use healing wish hatterene for secondary sweeping potential for your team

[low phoenix]

4/6 of these sets are unviable

Just replace arboliva and moltres with other sweepers/ho mons at this point like iron valiant and lead hamurott

[elder knoll]

You need more threatening knockers than scarf Meow. Else you’re a Corv/Skarm victim.

[low phoenix]

Molt absolutely needs boots or it becomes unusable once rocks are up

[silver river]

https://pokepast.es/1977591055e62b37
offence 👍

[low phoenix]

That dragonite set is weird ngl

[silver river]

It's because i made it up, idk what flying tblast nite actually runs

[low phoenix]

Who are you trying to target with it?

I recommend just using the standard dd set and keep tblast kingambit

[silver river]

Playing with it tho i think it should be fire punch instead of thunder punch

[barren ridge]

Ddance tblast is on the dex with flying slashed as an option for tera types

[regal ginkgo]

https://www.smogon.com/dex/sv/pokemon/dragonite/

[silver river]

Just checked the link, yeah i have something fairly similar, they have eq/low kick to hit steels, i was thinking of using fire punch instead bc of corv specifically.
But yeah maybe fire punch just isn't strong enough. I'll switch it to eq

[silver river]

The tera normal espeed one?

[north nimbus]

Yep

[elder knoll]

tera flying Dnite

runs sub

😭

it's such a gross set

[stone sierra]

Tblast flying is encore sub ddance blast

[harsh ivy]

can someone help me build a team around these 3 https://pokepast.es/f2a5a7f2ba6d1781?

bolt is either specs or boots

[hot dome]

we dont help with uncompleted teams

[turbid kelp]

https://pokepast.es/5fe4fea73795038b
Thinking of committing to tera blast crown, 70% accuracy is definitely too low

[elder knoll]

It depends on what your target for FB is

[north nimbus]

well considering focus blast is mainly to hit gambit and Lu

[turbid kelp]

Also darkrai and threads

I know I have zama but I'd rather not to have to rely on a single mon for fighting coverage

[north nimbus]

FWIW the current structure doesn’t seem bad against gambit or Lu

[low phoenix]

I think your team can benefit from a ghost

Pecharunt over lokix seams neat

[turbid kelp]

3 ground weaknesses? In this meta??

[nocturne sable]

Bro you have moltres, waterpon and zama that can take on EQs when needed

[stone sierra]

https://pokepast.es/c0e906068b5c75a0 got some help while making this team but does it have any glaring issues? its performed super well on ladder for me but idk if this is the correct kyurem set

[regal ginkgo]

New [Gen 9] OU RMT @north nimbus, @tacit bluff, @alpine hornet, @low phoenix, @empty verge, @trail whale, @unkempt bough, @echo rampart. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

[lone dove]

https://pokepast.es/f52be46e762dd6bd made this while watching breaking bad please tell me its not terrible

[low phoenix]

do you know what kind of team you are trying to make?

this looks like offense but with corviknight for some reason

[north nimbus]

Desperately needs something for kyurem and ghosts (h samu is not really a reliable ghost resist)

[lone dove]

i think i was trying to make a balance team but i just cant make balance well and kinda turned into offense

i js added corv for defog if tusk dies early

[low phoenix]

i think this team can easily be converted into a hyper offense

[lone dove]

take corv out?

[low phoenix]

make samurott sash lead

yes

make lando standard defensive

[lone dove]

i was thinking a iron moth spikes

[low phoenix]

tspikes moth is viable

[north nimbus]

I think it’s still salvageable to balance

[lone dove]

would it be a better balance or ho

[north nimbus]

Or well more leaning towards bo-ish but ye

[north nimbus]

It depends what you want

[low phoenix]

i personally see ho but yea ^

[north nimbus]

Tho it’s easier to probably convert this to ho

[lone dove]

prob ho then

thank you guys

[north nimbus]

But if u want balance then ye

[stone sierra]

bump

[lone dove]

does smogon have standard defensive lando

[low phoenix]

Yes

[north nimbus]

yup

[low phoenix]

https://pokepast.es/6c385197fe13ce0e

Here is a balance team I made recently

[lone dove]

anybody have a zamazenta ho set

[north nimbus]

Just use id zama

[lone dove]

id body press?

[north nimbus]

Ye

[lone dove]

ok

[north nimbus]

This looks more like Bo/ offense rather then balance if that what’s u had in mind

[stone sierra]

Yeah I mislabeled it, intended BO

[north nimbus]

FWIW the kyurem set is generally preferred for pure offense then bo, most of the time dnite would be better, tho this teams looks annoying when dealing with opposing kyurem and bolt, woger mu looks rough

[stone sierra]

So what set should I swap to on kyurem?

[north nimbus]

I’m thinking what’s the best course of action and changes

[north nimbus]

Dnite > kyurem makes sense and finding a way to fit gking here also makes to vastly improve the team my against kyurem and bolt, the team could use an immediate breaker as such and def recommend cb pult here, tho fwiw ur ghost mu is a bit shaky

[stone sierra]

Why cb pult? Wisp makes fighting zama so much easier

[north nimbus]

The team needs immediate breaker power otherwise you aren’t making progress as a whole especially against bulkier squads, even more so since this ain’t Hstack or such, and you have g king primarina pult dnite against zama u will most definitely be fine

Since u do have gking and Tran I do think you can hoenstly afford going cm primarina here to make stall life miserable, and better handle other things like weavile, wake, etc

[stone sierra]

Where would I fit gking

[north nimbus]

Since we got pult and espeed dnite, would definitely do it over scarf lando

[stone sierra]

Also do I go futureport gking or slack psyshock sludge bomb

[north nimbus]

Me thinks you better of psychic noise chilly reception sludge toxic

[stone sierra]

Also without an electric move on kyurem isn’t curse Tera water garg gonna be a huge problem?

[north nimbus]

You can prob do convert prima then again cm primarina generally runs sub but you’ll be fine vs garg