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night crypt Apr 23, 2025, 4:18 AM

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And obviusly goodra

low phoenix Apr 23, 2025, 4:18 AM

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So you can switch into tusk consistently

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Goodrs is niche

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Specs serp isn’t consistent

stone sierra Apr 23, 2025, 4:19 AM

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What do you do about trick scarf darkrai

low phoenix Apr 23, 2025, 4:19 AM

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You’re forced to Tera or hard read

low phoenix Apr 23, 2025, 4:19 AM

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stone sierra What do you do about trick scarf darkrai

It’s a standard set

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Good speed control

night crypt Apr 23, 2025, 4:19 AM

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Maybe It shound ridiculous but my gholdengo IS suicide allow my serp enter free

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To KO any pokemon

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To have this x2 free

stone sierra Apr 23, 2025, 4:19 AM

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low phoenix It’s a standard set

Ik im asking imbackrn what they do about it

low phoenix Apr 23, 2025, 4:19 AM

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night crypt Maybe It shound ridiculous but my gholdengo IS suicide allow my serp enter free

Blocking removal and defog is gholdengos role in a webs team

elder knoll Apr 23, 2025, 4:20 AM

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worrywhirl

low phoenix Apr 23, 2025, 4:20 AM

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That is what you should be using it for

night crypt Apr 23, 2025, 4:20 AM

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low phoenix Blocking removal and defog is gholdengos role in a webs team

Ye but thats why i get attention from defogers or spinners specially tusk so i have free leaf storm

elder knoll Apr 23, 2025, 4:20 AM

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if they spin or defog your webs are useless

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flop

night crypt Apr 23, 2025, 4:20 AM

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Literraly i let dye my gholdengo to start snowball serperiro

elder knoll Apr 23, 2025, 4:20 AM

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and your entire strategy is dud

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you also need to spend 3 turns setting all of this up

low phoenix Apr 23, 2025, 4:20 AM

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Ok what about fast mons like darkrai weavile zamazenta dragapult

elder knoll Apr 23, 2025, 4:20 AM

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worrywhirl

low phoenix Apr 23, 2025, 4:20 AM

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You get revenge killed

night crypt Apr 23, 2025, 4:21 AM

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low phoenix Ok what about fast mons like darkrai weavile zamazenta dragapult

They are threats ye

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If they have boots

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Or scarf

low phoenix Apr 23, 2025, 4:21 AM

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So

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Don’t use specs serp

stone sierra Apr 23, 2025, 4:21 AM

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(Most do)

elder knoll Apr 23, 2025, 4:21 AM

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Boots Zama and Darkrai are both common

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😭

night crypt Apr 23, 2025, 4:21 AM

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But darkrai can KO a 100% serperior?

low phoenix Apr 23, 2025, 4:21 AM

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Serp gets chipped

night crypt Apr 23, 2025, 4:21 AM

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Tera fire

low phoenix Apr 23, 2025, 4:21 AM

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You die

night crypt Apr 23, 2025, 4:22 AM

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elder knoll Boots Zama and Darkrai are both common

Ye thats my bad

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Some zamas got the kills

elder knoll Apr 23, 2025, 4:22 AM

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they just need to damage serp enough

stone sierra Apr 23, 2025, 4:22 AM

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Also

elder knoll Apr 23, 2025, 4:22 AM

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so dnite or a offensive guy cleans

stone sierra Apr 23, 2025, 4:22 AM

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Trick room teams

elder knoll Apr 23, 2025, 4:22 AM

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worrywhirl

night crypt Apr 23, 2025, 4:22 AM

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Thats why i try to enter my serp at 100% hp

elder knoll Apr 23, 2025, 4:22 AM

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TR isn’t worth prepping for

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😔

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there’s like a total

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of 3 trick room guys

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there’s more psyspam people

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than tr guys

low phoenix Apr 23, 2025, 4:23 AM

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Trick room is inconsistent at

night crypt Apr 23, 2025, 4:23 AM

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I didnt play VS trick rooms ngl

low phoenix Apr 23, 2025, 4:23 AM

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Any good player will know how to work around it

night crypt Apr 23, 2025, 4:23 AM

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I see hatterene but just for Magic Bounce

stone sierra Apr 23, 2025, 4:24 AM

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I fight a lot of trick room bc I just got into the format so I have no elo

elder knoll Apr 23, 2025, 4:24 AM

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worrywhirl
what if they just like sack a Mon to serp

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and then revenge it

low phoenix Apr 23, 2025, 4:24 AM

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Oh yea

night crypt Apr 23, 2025, 4:24 AM

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What?

low phoenix Apr 23, 2025, 4:24 AM

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Iron moth lives a hit

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And kills your serp

night crypt Apr 23, 2025, 4:24 AM

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Ye

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Another threat

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For me

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The things IS to be qt least at x2 and full hp

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Then pray

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Tera fire and pray

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And try to get serp on grassy terrain

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So suicide rillaboom basically

elder knoll Apr 23, 2025, 4:25 AM

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this team is what we call

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a gimmick

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worrywhirl

night crypt Apr 23, 2025, 4:26 AM

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It worked a lot xd i have some nasty reps

stone sierra Apr 23, 2025, 4:26 AM

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That sounds like a lot of threats

night crypt Apr 23, 2025, 4:26 AM

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Maybe IS not in high elo but IS medium elo

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https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9ou-2348590442

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Watch a replay of a Pokémon battle between aex27 and Orsonb! Format: [Gen 9] OU; Date: Apr 22, 2025

elder knoll Apr 23, 2025, 4:27 AM

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😔 If you want glaze go elsewhere

night crypt Apr 23, 2025, 4:27 AM

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For example here

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I suicide my gholdengo to have free kill

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And have this x2

low phoenix Apr 23, 2025, 4:27 AM

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We don’t assist in building around gimmicks

night crypt Apr 23, 2025, 4:27 AM

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X2 IS 800 sp qttack

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Imagine i Tera fire to resist and i have x3

elder knoll Apr 23, 2025, 4:27 AM

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they sacked their 4x serp resist to tusk

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for no reason

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worrywhirl

low phoenix Apr 23, 2025, 4:28 AM

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I don’t feel like watching replays rn

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But specs serp is not good

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End of discussion

elder knoll Apr 23, 2025, 4:28 AM

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that’s called your opponent is throwing

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😭

night crypt Apr 23, 2025, 4:28 AM

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low phoenix But specs serp is not good

If u played you Will like it

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But people dont try new things

low phoenix Apr 23, 2025, 4:29 AM

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I’ve built around niche mons like garchomp entei hoodra before but never built around serp

stone sierra Apr 23, 2025, 4:29 AM

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night crypt But people dont try new things

Dawg I tried stall in this format after maining hyper offense for a year

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It was great

low phoenix Apr 23, 2025, 4:29 AM

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You can build around a gimmick Mon you just gotta learn how to teambuild lol

stone sierra Apr 23, 2025, 4:29 AM

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Finally opened up to learning balance

elder knoll Apr 23, 2025, 4:29 AM

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flop

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there’s a difference between trying niche and unconventional things

night crypt Apr 23, 2025, 4:30 AM

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Wanna play a Game?

elder knoll Apr 23, 2025, 4:30 AM

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and dog water

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worrywhirl

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if someone plays you you lose if they run

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boots spam offense

night crypt Apr 23, 2025, 4:31 AM

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Problaly

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But the things IS that not all people play this things

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But ye you have right there

elder knoll Apr 23, 2025, 4:32 AM

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flop

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this is a waste of time

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I’ll play you once you hit 1900 with that team

paper chasm Apr 23, 2025, 4:45 AM

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https://pokepast.es/4596974871b28f71

leaden gorge Apr 23, 2025, 4:52 AM

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@night crypt hello! this thread is for rating teams, so any teams posted here will receive feedback - if you want to share how your team is unique but still effective in the metagame, there are other channels such as #comp-general and #comp-general-2 for this blob_heart

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interesting team though, specs Serperior does have incredible power off the bat

outer agate Apr 23, 2025, 5:35 AM

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https://pokepast.es/db831968747e8df5
rate this stall team

barren ridge Apr 23, 2025, 5:38 AM

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This channel is for Scarlet/Violet rates. You’re using Mega Swampert which is not in the games. You’ll want to post in the Natdex OU thread https://discord.com/channels/192713314399289344/1059714627384115290

paper chasm Apr 23, 2025, 5:51 AM

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paper chasm https://pokepast.es/4596974871b28f71

changed zama to rest

low phoenix Apr 23, 2025, 6:49 AM

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paper chasm changed zama to rest

Your team lacks breaking power

paper chasm Apr 23, 2025, 6:50 AM

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true!

low phoenix Apr 23, 2025, 6:50 AM

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Are u trying to make this team a bulky hazard stack

paper chasm Apr 23, 2025, 6:52 AM

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yeah

low phoenix Apr 23, 2025, 6:58 AM

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Change dragapult to bulky np gholdengo

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Zamazenta to full hdb aaa or Chesto id press

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Clef to ting Lu

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Honestly just look at the sample teams for inspiration the main issue is your team is too passive and other bootspam teams take advantage of this with clef as your only knocker

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You want something to force progress on those kinds of teams some good examples of progress makers on balance include meowscarada weavile sd gliscor cm clefable through knock off or nasty plot gholdengo Hydrapple volcanion for their offensive breaking power

tepid hazel Apr 23, 2025, 7:58 AM

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https://pokepast.es/3d53a4eb915d99b8

regal ginkgoBOT Apr 23, 2025, 7:58 AM

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New [Gen 9] OU RMT @north nimbus, @tacit bluff, @alpine hornet, @low phoenix, @trail whale, @unkempt bough, @empty verge, @echo rampart. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

tepid hazel Apr 23, 2025, 7:58 AM

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tried making spikes meows based on the old classic spikes greninja

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it threatens things out and gets spike on the switch

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Very cool idea imo, perhaps not the best execution? In any case this team needs refining

misty basin Apr 23, 2025, 8:41 AM

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So spikes setter, physical wall, special wall, a sweeper, a wall breaker, and a pivot (these aren't ordered)
It's a well built team

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You could have Keldeo and Thundurus with no attack IVs but it isn't like that'd really come in handy

silver river Apr 23, 2025, 9:11 AM

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https://pokepast.es/99dd80896e77bbac

Tried balance. Works okay.
Not sure if the team is bad or i am. Maybe both.

tepid hazel Apr 23, 2025, 9:13 AM

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well

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take my advice with a grain of salt

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but

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ebelt zama is a bit worse than heavy duty boots

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silk scarf nite is pretty bad

silver river Apr 23, 2025, 9:14 AM

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I have double hazard removers, should be fine

tepid hazel Apr 23, 2025, 9:14 AM

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air balloon + tflying is a little unnecessary

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Also

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Ehh nvm

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but uhh yeah that’s js what I noticed

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Other people will give u better analyses

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but I js wanna say the team looks quite weak to rai hazardstack

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Because darkrai can pressure gzing very effectively

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kill tusk

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and chip down non-HDB zama

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with hazards

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So I would add more heavy duty boots if I were you, on zama and nite

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then you can go helmet on tusk since it isn’t your only removal option

woeful hearth Apr 23, 2025, 10:40 AM

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I made this dragonite team, any changes and/or suggestions: https://pokepast.es/2881a37f472289cd

stone sierra Apr 23, 2025, 11:47 AM

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silver river https://pokepast.es/99dd80896e77bbac Tried balance. Works okay. Not sure if the...

https://pokepast.es/08eca5b0c815550b balance sample team is great

thorn ingot Apr 23, 2025, 12:37 PM

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I was thinking that too, as it also makes my stall matchup much better with psychic noise. But I really struggle with the reduced priority (only priority with the change is using shadow sneak Ceru). Is it that important? Should I swap a move on Meow for Sucker Punch?

silver river Apr 23, 2025, 1:06 PM

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stone sierra https://pokepast.es/08eca5b0c815550b balance sample team is great

No, like, i made my own team, just wanted to see how good it is

fallow escarp Apr 23, 2025, 2:05 PM

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https://pokepast.es/4b9683f1e826e927
I've made this team which works well around the 1400-1500 range, but I feel like my Ting Lu set is awkward, and that I might need to kit Knock somewhere to get some value out of hazards/Court Change

regal ginkgoBOT Apr 23, 2025, 2:05 PM

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New [Gen 9] OU RMT @north nimbus, @tacit bluff, @alpine hornet, @low phoenix, @trail whale, @unkempt bough, @empty verge, @echo rampart. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

trail whale Apr 23, 2025, 2:09 PM

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fallow escarp https://pokepast.es/4b9683f1e826e927 I've made this team which works well aroun...

This looks extremely similar to an old sample team

fallow escarp Apr 23, 2025, 2:11 PM

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Ooh could you link it?

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https://pokepast.es/08eca5b0c815550b

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This one?

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I tried to build around SubTect Kyu, so have double hazard control. Life Orb Zama is there because my rest iron defense set was losing to stall. AV glowking for more offensive presence to weaken up for the cleaners, and Ting Lu is Ting Lu, although I originally had Rilla there.

arctic frigate Apr 23, 2025, 3:48 PM

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https://pokepast.es/61cfaea05644cfe4

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This zama set or hbd attacker

tepid hazel Apr 23, 2025, 4:06 PM

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No u definitely want hdb attacker za

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Also maybe find a better line into corviknight than garganacl

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https://pokepast.es/2f1be9286ae2212e this team feels extremely clunky but also weirdly awesome

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I feel like thundy can never click tera blast cos I’m always tera-ing pecha

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I could probably swap it for knock off and make it like a darkrai set

arctic frigate Apr 23, 2025, 4:36 PM

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tepid hazel Also maybe find a better line into corviknight than garganacl

tera ghost weavile

tepid hazel Apr 23, 2025, 4:37 PM

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I mean sure but ur not stopping the ID

arctic frigate Apr 23, 2025, 4:37 PM

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triple axel can crit fish

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i win that 100% of the time

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and then what is he gonna do vs a +6 weavile with ice shar

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that cant get hit by espeed and vacuum wave

pseudo condor Apr 23, 2025, 5:01 PM

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https://pokepast.es/4a29413fba47eb30

Help with the terras please

hot dome Apr 23, 2025, 5:04 PM

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tepid hazel https://pokepast.es/3d53a4eb915d99b8

this team just isn't good, thundy t isnt a good mon in general (outside of incredibly niche teams that have mostly fallen out the lime light + ting lu), your only knockers both are afraid to knock gking + cannot pressure the metal birds, your spdef is extremely weak and your phys def isnt much better

tepid hazel Apr 23, 2025, 5:05 PM

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the idea was thundurus to pressure the metal birds

hot dome Apr 23, 2025, 5:05 PM

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unless thundy t learned knock when i wasnt looking your knockers still cannot pressure them

tepid hazel Apr 23, 2025, 5:06 PM

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hot dome unless thundy t learned knock when i wasnt looking your knockers still cannot pr...

it does have knock actually

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Should I use it?

hot dome Apr 23, 2025, 5:06 PM

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no cuz thundy sucks

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look this team just isnt good, unfortunately

tepid hazel Apr 23, 2025, 5:06 PM

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ok

hot dome Apr 23, 2025, 5:06 PM

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i would recommend you scrap it and go back to samples to learn how to make balance teams, you can find them here

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!gen9ousamples

regal ginkgoBOT Apr 23, 2025, 5:06 PM

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Gen 9 OU Samples: https://www.smogon.com/forums/threads/3712513/

arctic frigate Apr 23, 2025, 5:07 PM

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arctic frigate https://pokepast.es/61cfaea05644cfe4

does this look good?

tepid hazel Apr 23, 2025, 5:07 PM

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hmm

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would there be any way to use spikes meow

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Or even spikes gren?

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just out of curiosity

hot dome Apr 23, 2025, 5:07 PM

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probably spikes meow on some niche hazard stack, but what it would be i do not know

tepid hazel Apr 23, 2025, 5:07 PM

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alright

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I’ll keep building and let u know

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Dw I will take into account the samples

hot dome Apr 23, 2025, 5:09 PM

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arctic frigate https://pokepast.es/61cfaea05644cfe4

no knock absorber, zama will get shredded by hazards, kyurem has a field day with this team

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darkrai is pretty strong into this team as well

tepid hazel Apr 23, 2025, 5:09 PM

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Yeah man specs kyurem is mean as hell

arctic frigate Apr 23, 2025, 5:09 PM

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hot dome no knock absorber, zama will get shredded by hazards, kyurem has a field day wit...

gliscor is a knock absorber no?

hot dome Apr 23, 2025, 5:10 PM

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he's a secondary knock absorber, cannot switch into the major knock off users ie darkrai weavile

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tusk

tepid hazel Apr 23, 2025, 5:10 PM

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clod I have a question

hot dome Apr 23, 2025, 5:10 PM

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ogerpon

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what

tepid hazel Apr 23, 2025, 5:10 PM

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Can meow afford to knock alo even if it risks a burn?

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Rn I’m trying to find a knocker for all the hdb pivots

hot dome Apr 23, 2025, 5:10 PM

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eh depends on game state and what you're doing but usually alo does't stay in and switches to the metal bird they have

tepid hazel Apr 23, 2025, 5:11 PM

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Ok so I need to pressure the metal birds

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I’m thinking a spatk electric?

hot dome Apr 23, 2025, 5:11 PM

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just use ghold

tepid hazel Apr 23, 2025, 5:11 PM

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alright

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OH TRUE

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WHAT

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LOL

arctic frigate Apr 23, 2025, 5:12 PM

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what could i change

low phoenix Apr 23, 2025, 5:12 PM

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arctic frigate what could i change

What’s ur team

hot dome Apr 23, 2025, 5:12 PM

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im rating it now

tepid hazel Apr 23, 2025, 5:12 PM

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arctic frigate https://pokepast.es/61cfaea05644cfe4

,

low phoenix Apr 23, 2025, 5:13 PM

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Oh

woeful hearth Apr 23, 2025, 5:19 PM

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I made this dragonite team, any changes and/or suggestions: https://pokepast.es/12c0ca26b180f7b9

hot dome Apr 23, 2025, 5:20 PM

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arctic frigate https://pokepast.es/61cfaea05644cfe4

try this:
skarm over garg
boots zama
hex twave ghold over sinistcha (this one is optional, I think sinistcha can work)

hot dome Apr 23, 2025, 5:21 PM

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woeful hearth I made this dragonite team, any changes and/or suggestions: https://pokepast.es/...

what style are you going for here?

woeful hearth Apr 23, 2025, 5:21 PM

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hot dome what style are you going for here?

Offensive

hot dome Apr 23, 2025, 5:27 PM

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this team feelsl ike one step away from hyper offense but requires far more than one step in changes

arctic frigate Apr 23, 2025, 5:31 PM

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hot dome try this: skarm over garg boots zama hex twave ghold over sinistcha (this one is...

lowk get fucked by darkrai

hot dome Apr 23, 2025, 5:33 PM

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run np dengo, replace hamurott with a ho lead like lando, glimmora, or deo-s (i recommend deo-s or lando), drop blaziken for a strong phys attacker like kingambit, swap tusk to a bu set or a booster attack 4 attack set

hot dome Apr 23, 2025, 5:33 PM

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arctic frigate lowk get fucked by darkrai

can't beat it with tera gking + zama?

arctic frigate Apr 23, 2025, 5:34 PM

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i can actually yeah

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mb

woeful hearth Apr 23, 2025, 5:35 PM

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hot dome this team feelsl ike one step away from hyper offense but requires far more than...

Are there any particular changes or weakness to my team, and is better to lean more towards offensive or hyper offensive?

hot dome Apr 23, 2025, 5:35 PM

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hot dome run np dengo, replace hamurott with a ho lead like lando, glimmora, or deo-s (i ...

read

tepid hazel Apr 23, 2025, 5:35 PM

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see

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I don’t want it to look like I’m spamming teams

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but

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https://pokepast.es/1d29b2ee809c82b8

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This one feels more secure

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perhaps I should have a second spike setter

hot dome Apr 23, 2025, 5:37 PM

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please test your teams before sending them here

tepid hazel Apr 23, 2025, 5:37 PM

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hot dome please test your teams before sending them here

alright

woeful hearth Apr 23, 2025, 5:41 PM

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hot dome read

sorry didnt see that

woeful hearth Apr 23, 2025, 6:16 PM

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hot dome run np dengo, replace hamurott with a ho lead like lando, glimmora, or deo-s (i ...

I did some testing like 8 games maybe, and wouldnt blaziken and/or a fighting type be better than kingambit since you can wear down ice, rock and steel types that dragonite e-killer struggle with?

hot dome Apr 23, 2025, 6:16 PM

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They’re never switching into blaziken anyways

woeful hearth Apr 23, 2025, 6:26 PM

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hot dome They’re never switching into blaziken anyways

could also be a zamazenta like i said any fighting type, or is not worth going for?

hot dome Apr 23, 2025, 6:27 PM

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No, you need more immediate power

tepid hazel Apr 23, 2025, 6:31 PM

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https://pokepast.es/07382b54ce0503b0 went 6-4 after testing this team like I was told

stone sierra Apr 23, 2025, 6:53 PM

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Wrong format

barren ridge Apr 23, 2025, 6:58 PM

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https://discord.com/channels/192713314399289344/1059704283072831499

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also use pokepaste

tepid hazel Apr 23, 2025, 7:09 PM

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stone sierra Wrong format

What

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oh nvm

low phoenix Apr 23, 2025, 7:41 PM

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tepid hazel https://pokepast.es/07382b54ce0503b0 went 6-4 after testing this team like I was...

Why two spikes users when you can be spikes and sr

tepid hazel Apr 23, 2025, 7:42 PM

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Oh that was an oversight

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My bad

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Anything else?

low phoenix Apr 23, 2025, 7:50 PM

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Spikes meow is useable because of the switches it forces but meows been falling off lately as a Mon in general but I’ll just recommend triple axel over flower trick for ice coverage vs gliscor Lando t raging bolt Dragonite etc

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Make gholdengo or darkrai nasty plot you need a breaker

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Give ting Lu stealth rock

tepid hazel Apr 23, 2025, 7:51 PM

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alright

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So I drop knock on darkrai?

low phoenix Apr 23, 2025, 7:52 PM

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Wait a sec

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Gotta do something

hot dome Apr 23, 2025, 8:01 PM

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Your sole phys def check is weak to many physical threats in the tier

stone sierra Apr 23, 2025, 8:39 PM

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low phoenix Make gholdengo or darkrai nasty plot you need a breaker

I think plot dengo scarf rai would be best no?

hot dome Apr 23, 2025, 9:06 PM

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definitely not, they have no phys def walls in that case, please do not give advice if you are not expeirenced in the tier

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meow here is just painfuly out of place so much would be fixed if you just slotted in like skarm over meow as your spikes setter

autumn hare Apr 23, 2025, 9:38 PM

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https://pokepast.es/f28d6ec8e6be2d18

Scizor offense

regal ginkgoBOT Apr 23, 2025, 9:38 PM

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New [Gen 9] OU RMT @north nimbus, @tacit bluff, @alpine hornet, @low phoenix, @trail whale, @unkempt bough, @empty verge, @echo rampart. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

low phoenix Apr 23, 2025, 10:25 PM

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autumn hare https://pokepast.es/f28d6ec8e6be2d18 Scizor offense

not bad but my personal take would be to make scizor band for some breaking power

arctic frigate Apr 24, 2025, 12:10 AM

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https://pokepast.es/82c83640c74d921c

low phoenix Apr 24, 2025, 12:15 AM

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arctic frigate https://pokepast.es/82c83640c74d921c

good standard hazard stack balance team

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good job

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#comp-general

arctic frigate Apr 24, 2025, 12:17 AM

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YES A GOOD TEAM

low phoenix Apr 24, 2025, 12:30 AM

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if you have trouble with kyurem you can try tinkaton over clef and molt over skarm

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but then you lose cm clef which i really like as a wincon rn these days so worrywhirl

arctic frigate Apr 24, 2025, 12:31 AM

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I might think about meow over weavile aswell

low phoenix Apr 24, 2025, 12:31 AM

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no keep weavile

arctic frigate Apr 24, 2025, 12:31 AM

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Oh

low phoenix Apr 24, 2025, 12:31 AM

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meow been falling off

arctic frigate Apr 24, 2025, 12:31 AM

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Ok

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I could go heavy slam

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On ting for ky

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If needed

stone sierra Apr 24, 2025, 12:32 AM

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no ghold in hazard stack?

arctic frigate Apr 24, 2025, 12:32 AM

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Corv is not as popular rn

low phoenix Apr 24, 2025, 12:33 AM

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arctic frigate Corv is not as popular rn

huh

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corv lu cores have been popping off lately

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heavy slam on ting is not worth the moveslot when kyu gets chipped by hazards anyways

arctic frigate Apr 24, 2025, 12:35 AM

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Kk

narrow crest Apr 24, 2025, 12:44 AM

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https://pokepast.es/1224cf23935356ee

elder knoll Apr 24, 2025, 1:24 AM

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team looks too slow

pseudo condor Apr 24, 2025, 1:28 AM

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pseudo condor https://pokepast.es/4a29413fba47eb30 Help with the terras please

Am I blind or has there been no response

nocturne sable Apr 24, 2025, 1:31 AM

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pseudo condor https://pokepast.es/4a29413fba47eb30 Help with the terras please

What playstyle are you going for because this team doesn’t really have any synergy and has a lot of unviable sets like 4 attack dirge and Life orb 4 attack Quaquaval

pseudo condor Apr 24, 2025, 1:33 AM

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I mostly built it for fun but 'somehow' ended up doing decent. Mostly it's a glimmora hazard lead into a sweep or stall out an enemy sweep attempt with the bird or stall clodsire

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Earthquake because they see stall then surprise

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It switches between stall and hyperoffense

arctic frigate Apr 24, 2025, 1:39 AM

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low phoenix huh

Ehat do i do vs sun teams btw

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Like specs wake in general

nocturne sable Apr 24, 2025, 1:39 AM

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pseudo condor I mostly built it for fun but 'somehow' ended up doing decent. Mostly it's a gli...

But this glimmora hazard lead has no spikes so you don’t really accomplish much

Frankly, you lose to common archetypes like Hstack and Offensive teams since you don’t really have a good defensive core or good hazard removal. And your offensive core is simply just not good.

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I would recommend looking at samples

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!gen9ousamples

regal ginkgoBOT Apr 24, 2025, 1:40 AM

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Gen 9 OU Samples: https://www.smogon.com/forums/threads/3712513/

low phoenix Apr 24, 2025, 1:48 AM

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arctic frigate Ehat do i do vs sun teams btw

Tera ting Lu and ~~pray~~ play around

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Balance has a notoriously disadvantaged matchup to sun

elder knoll Apr 24, 2025, 1:50 AM

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flop

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also get hazards down ASAP

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and never let them get taken off

low phoenix Apr 24, 2025, 1:53 AM

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hard when they have hatterene tbh

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But yea try to get rocks in at least

narrow crest Apr 24, 2025, 2:01 AM

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elder knoll team looks too slow

agreed was thinking non bulk up booster speed tusk

stone sierra Apr 24, 2025, 2:53 AM

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https://pokepast.es/3959306a3720ad33 tried to make a hazard stack team

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not sure how well dark fits

fast vector Apr 24, 2025, 3:14 AM

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https://pokepast.es/aba9cf1745e068f7
I think i did a decent job building this team, but are there anything i should change?

low phoenix Apr 24, 2025, 3:19 AM

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stone sierra https://pokepast.es/3959306a3720ad33 tried to make a hazard stack team

Make darkrai boots

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Zamazenta aaa with boots with knock off/wisp

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Gliscor swords dance

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Psyshock to shadow ball on gholdengo imo

stone sierra Apr 24, 2025, 3:37 AM

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low phoenix Zamazenta aaa with boots with knock off/wisp

AAA?

low phoenix Apr 24, 2025, 3:39 AM

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all out attacker

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Zamazenta @ Heavy-Duty Boots
Ability: Dauntless Shield
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Tera Type: Dark / Steel
Jolly Nature

Close Combat
Crunch
Stone Edge
Heavy Slam / Ice Fang

stone sierra Apr 24, 2025, 3:40 AM

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Ic

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No roar?

low phoenix Apr 24, 2025, 3:41 AM

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nah

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you got whirlwind on skarm already

stone sierra Apr 24, 2025, 3:42 AM

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Also what do i replace on glisc for sd?

silver river Apr 24, 2025, 3:42 AM

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https://pokepast.es/99dd80896e77bbac

regal ginkgoBOT Apr 24, 2025, 3:42 AM

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New [Gen 9] OU RMT @north nimbus, @tacit bluff, @alpine hornet, @low phoenix, @trail whale, @unkempt bough, @empty verge, @echo rampart. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

low phoenix Apr 24, 2025, 5:55 AM

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stone sierra Also what do i replace on glisc for sd?

the smogon set

snow hemlock Apr 24, 2025, 7:08 AM

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https://pokepast.es/b3ebac5cc2308ffb team based around setting up an iron valiant sweep

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until gholdengo where I got bored and started making everything up

elder knoll Apr 24, 2025, 7:37 AM

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I’m kinda confused on what this team is trying to be

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worrywhirl

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It looks like a HO almost

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but theres a random rocky helmet Lu with protect and a banded Weavile for some reason

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and a bulky Ghold

snow hemlock Apr 24, 2025, 7:41 AM

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iron valiant sets up, weavile gets rid of dragonite and some other stuff that iron valiant can't deal with, glimmora sets up hazards to make iron valiant get more ohkos, everything else was made up because I got bored during team building

snow hemlock Apr 24, 2025, 7:41 AM

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elder knoll It looks like a HO almost

what is that

elder knoll Apr 24, 2025, 7:41 AM

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do you know what team archetypes are

snow hemlock Apr 24, 2025, 7:41 AM

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I've heard of a thing called hyper offence, balance, and stall

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that's about it

elder knoll Apr 24, 2025, 7:41 AM

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I’m gonna assumed that a no

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worrywhirl

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https://www.smogon.com/forums/threads/sv-ou-sample-teams-new-samples-added-post-spl-and-roaring-moon-ban.3712513/

Smogon Forums

Resource - SV OU Sample Teams - New Samples Added Post SPL and Roar...

Hosted by the OU roomstaff team | updated April 9th 2025

Welcome to the sample teams thread where you can find solid teams to try out the tier and learn the OU metagame with teams proven to be good in Tournaments and Ladder alike. To get the importable of the team, simply click on the...

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refer to the sample teams

snow hemlock Apr 24, 2025, 7:43 AM

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elder knoll I’m gonna assumed that a no

it is a roundabout way of saying no

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so what you're saying is that I need more offence

elder knoll Apr 24, 2025, 7:45 AM

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worrywhirl

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you should probably look to see what a hyper offense team looks like

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before trying to shove mons together

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you kinda need a baseline understanding in order to understand why things go where

low phoenix Apr 24, 2025, 7:55 AM

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silver river https://pokepast.es/99dd80896e77bbac

Looks more like a bulky offense team to me

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What do you need the g weezing for exactly? Since you already have tusk and g weezing fits more on balance/stall teams

elder knoll Apr 24, 2025, 7:56 AM

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It looks like they want to greed a damage boost item onto D-nite

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for some reason

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maybe there’s some sheist calcs idk

brave moon Apr 24, 2025, 8:52 AM

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Could I share my balanced team and ask for any tips even small plz

magic walrus Apr 24, 2025, 9:23 AM

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brave moon Could I share my balanced team and ask for any tips even small plz

Yes this chat room is made for rating and giving advice

brave moon Apr 24, 2025, 10:08 AM

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https://pokepast.es/8478bd6879c7ae7a

regal ginkgoBOT Apr 24, 2025, 10:08 AM

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New [Gen 9] OU RMT @north nimbus, @tacit bluff, @alpine hornet, @low phoenix, @trail whale, @unkempt bough, @empty verge, @echo rampart. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

fervent sluice Apr 24, 2025, 1:24 PM

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Yeah I miss pursuit. It just isn’t the same, and so many physically bulky mons now

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But I see tera ice exca to deal with glisc/lando. Jolly will outspeed some variants

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But I have been slotting around a core now after ditching rain. smooth rock Ttar, air balloon SD exca, dondozo and clodsire

nocturne sable Apr 24, 2025, 2:18 PM

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brave moon https://pokepast.es/8478bd6879c7ae7a

Hmm, you need to fix up a lot of the sets and EV

Make Zama standard AAA boots set with Ice fang>play rough

Drop That Glowking> Tera grass Gweezing since you need hazard removal

Make Mola standard Mola with rocky helmet

Drop that Gliscor>>Ting Lu

Make Garg standard Garg with Tera water

Drop Waterpon>>>Corv as it gives you better MU vs grounds like Ursa, Tusk and Gliscor

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You can also run iron defense Zama since there is enough hazard support for it

elder knoll Apr 24, 2025, 3:58 PM

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that is also a Gliscor set

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of all time

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worrywhirl

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holy that Garg set asw

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wtf check the standard smogdex

low phoenix Apr 24, 2025, 4:12 PM

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elder knoll It looks like they want to greed a damage boost item onto D-nite

i mean theres that sample team with spell tag tera ghost blast dragonite

low phoenix Apr 24, 2025, 4:14 PM

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brave moon https://pokepast.es/8478bd6879c7ae7a

also only wogerpons set is viable, please refer to the sample teams if you are new to teambuilding

deep locust Apr 24, 2025, 5:36 PM

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https://pokepast.es/27bc88cf122f09cc

regal ginkgoBOT Apr 24, 2025, 5:36 PM

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New [Gen 9] OU RMT @north nimbus, @tacit bluff, @alpine hornet, @low phoenix, @trail whale, @unkempt bough, @empty verge, @echo rampart. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

opaque shale Apr 24, 2025, 5:59 PM

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Those alo spreads

nocturne sable Apr 24, 2025, 7:48 PM

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deep locust https://pokepast.es/27bc88cf122f09cc

What play style are you going for? Because you have a lead Hamurott with slowking and defensive Zapdos

deep locust Apr 24, 2025, 7:48 PM

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Going more for a balance team

nocturne sable Apr 24, 2025, 7:49 PM

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Then you should prob not run a suicide lead because that’s meant for HO

deep locust Apr 24, 2025, 7:59 PM

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Makes sense

limber spire Apr 24, 2025, 10:39 PM

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Hey can anyone rate my team and see if there are any errors

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https://pokepast.es/a6d7123bff6d367a

low phoenix Apr 24, 2025, 11:04 PM

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what are the evs on av tusk for

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also your team doesnt have any real ground switch ins

elder knoll Apr 24, 2025, 11:11 PM

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Having bolt that slow

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is questionable asw

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Double status Krai?

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no hazards either

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worrywhirl

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no hazards is never good

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also walled by Blissey ahhhh set on Ghold this stall matchup is not good

limber spire Apr 24, 2025, 11:23 PM

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ok thanks yall

limber spire Apr 24, 2025, 11:24 PM

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low phoenix what are the evs on av tusk for

um bulky phys def but doesnt get wasked by sp atk

nocturne sable Apr 25, 2025, 12:03 AM

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limber spire https://pokepast.es/a6d7123bff6d367a

Yea unfortunately the tusk set just isn’t good

limber spire Apr 25, 2025, 12:04 AM

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nocturne sable Yea unfortunately the tusk set just isn’t good

ok

nocturne sable Apr 25, 2025, 12:04 AM

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Also if you’re running boots non np darkrai just run 3 attacks with either knock off/will o wisp, no need for double status

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Also trick is needed on scarf dengo

limber spire Apr 25, 2025, 12:05 AM

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nocturne sable Also trick is needed on scarf dengo

i did originally have that but traded it for thunderbolt cause of corvinkight

nocturne sable Apr 25, 2025, 12:05 AM

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Psychic noise>>>Psychic can also be used on glowking

limber spire Apr 25, 2025, 12:06 AM

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ok

nocturne sable Apr 25, 2025, 12:06 AM

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limber spire i did originally have that but traded it for thunderbolt cause of corvinkight

Tricking scarf cripples most mons

limber spire Apr 25, 2025, 12:06 AM

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ok

nocturne sable Apr 25, 2025, 12:06 AM

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+Corv is not staying in on dengo

limber spire Apr 25, 2025, 12:06 AM

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nocturne sable +Corv is not staying in on dengo

true

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tbh if I trick scarf on to corv that shuts it down too

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Ok I replace tusk with gliscor and it has stealth rocks but the problem is I have no hazard removal now

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who should I replace for hazard removal?

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https://pokepast.es/6310c4480367aee9

regal ginkgoBOT Apr 25, 2025, 12:19 AM

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New [Gen 9] OU RMT @north nimbus, @tacit bluff, @alpine hornet, @low phoenix, @trail whale, @unkempt bough, @empty verge, @echo rampart. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

limber spire Apr 25, 2025, 12:19 AM

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this is the new version

low phoenix Apr 25, 2025, 12:26 AM

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its not worth running assault vest on tusk unless youre calcing to live a specific hit from a mon

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otherwise just run boots/rocky helmet

elder knoll Apr 25, 2025, 1:18 AM

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or lefties/berry can sometimes be good asw

elder knoll Apr 25, 2025, 1:19 AM

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limber spire https://pokepast.es/6310c4480367aee9

You still don’t have hazard

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worrywhirl

limber spire Apr 25, 2025, 1:19 AM

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Mb

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Sigh

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Ill put t spikes to glowking

elder knoll Apr 25, 2025, 1:21 AM

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flop

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You need rocks

limber spire Apr 25, 2025, 1:30 AM

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sigh

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who to replace

low phoenix Apr 25, 2025, 1:51 AM

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corviknight > lando t

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also good god what are those raging bolt evs for

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and possibly raging bolt > cinderace for some hazard control

potent rivet Apr 25, 2025, 2:42 AM

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hi gamers i'm not quite sure abt this one, feels decent in testing but definitely has a few weaknesses: https://pokepast.es/92c9fece78d4c3d5

low phoenix Apr 25, 2025, 2:50 AM

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Prob knock off over thunder wave on Tink so you have dual knockers

stone sierra Apr 25, 2025, 2:50 AM

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https://pokepast.es/14f1582cb9583440 made a team built around pivoting into kyruem, opinions?

low phoenix Apr 25, 2025, 2:50 AM

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And Pech on hazard stack tends to be pivots

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Looks fine otherwise

stone sierra Apr 25, 2025, 2:50 AM

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ignore pult nature

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it was a misclick

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should be jolly

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oh i fucked up the evs too

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😭

low phoenix Apr 25, 2025, 2:51 AM

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Goobed by raging bolt and darkrai

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The sample specs Kyu is prob the best team built around specs Kyurem rn tbh

stone sierra Apr 25, 2025, 2:52 AM

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rip

elder knoll Apr 25, 2025, 2:57 AM

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flop

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just know people will set hazards against that sample

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cause they know Corv doesn’t have defog

low phoenix Apr 25, 2025, 3:16 AM

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Ppl will still set hazards on defog Corv but it’s much harder to maintain them unless you have Ghold

low phoenix Apr 25, 2025, 5:58 AM

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potent rivet hi gamers i'm not quite sure abt this one, feels decent in testing but definitel...

Wait actually nasty plot Pech might work

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You should test it out

potent rivet Apr 25, 2025, 6:03 AM

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low phoenix Wait actually nasty plot Pech might work

np pech has felt good, i've been having issues with kyurem and hex pult ngl

low phoenix Apr 25, 2025, 6:12 AM

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Tinkaton and Zam should be decent checks

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Tink and Zam for Kyu and Tink and ting for pult

low phoenix Apr 25, 2025, 6:13 AM

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potent rivet np pech has felt good, i've been having issues with kyurem and hex pult ngl

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9ou-2350274541-8h03tthw1eiokvlfl9c2qhpd4h9k8n3pw

[Gen 9] OU: Tankman123 vs. Prioritized - Replays - Pokémon Showdown!

Watch a replay of a Pokémon battle between Tankman123 and Prioritized! Format: [Gen 9] OU; Date: Apr 25, 2025

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Threw a few turns but I won nevertheless

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On my alt

potent rivet Apr 25, 2025, 6:14 AM

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kyu is playable

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hex pult is like

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a truly dogshit mu

tacit bluff Apr 25, 2025, 6:20 AM

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Hmmm

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Mayybe spdef gliscor

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Can help with that

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You take more from hex sure but you honestly don't care too much

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Plus if ur Tera normal facade sd

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You force it out anyway

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You could also run a scarfer

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Like scarf enam or darkrai

low phoenix Apr 25, 2025, 6:22 AM

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Hazard stack team

tacit bluff Apr 25, 2025, 6:23 AM

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Oh wait no removal yeah

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Gliscor then I feel

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You want a knock absorber too

low phoenix Apr 25, 2025, 6:24 AM

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Prob knock scor over zap

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And make Pech pivot

potent rivet Apr 25, 2025, 6:30 AM

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ye i'll test that

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find smth else to use np pech on flop

elder knoll Apr 25, 2025, 6:36 AM

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idt making the wisp hex pult matchup

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much better is possible on that build tbh

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😔

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it doesn’t look like an unplayable matchup though

potent rivet Apr 25, 2025, 6:41 AM

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could maybe go some sort of defensive tera on pech

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dark or smth

tacit bluff Apr 25, 2025, 6:43 AM

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potent rivet find smth else to use np pech on<:flop:1357882079798362222>

Ngl np pech is more suited for offence

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Than for spikestack

potent rivet Apr 25, 2025, 6:43 AM

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yeah prolly makes sense

tacit bluff Apr 25, 2025, 6:44 AM

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It's main benefit over ghold is that it's much more sturdy on the physical side

Yeah it has some common switchins but the idea is to force something out

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It's a bit like sinistcha

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Ur not gonna be sweeping but you exert a lot of pressure thanks to toxic+confusion

potent rivet Apr 25, 2025, 6:44 AM

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yeah

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i just thought it would b fun bc it packs up non-clod stall

tacit bluff Apr 25, 2025, 6:45 AM

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Oh yeah it's great into fat and stall

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It handles clefable and blissey super well

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Ultimately pecharunt can always cheese past stuff

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Like yeah your kingambits and your iron crowns are bad mus but in front of zapdos and moltres you scare them off

elder knoll Apr 25, 2025, 6:59 AM

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It’s nice webs Mon

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worrywhirl

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asw

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alternative to Ghold

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Tera blast fighting can cheese out Gambit

stoic obsidian Apr 25, 2025, 2:35 PM

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I wanted to make a pecharunt team -w-
https://pokepast.es/dfa5eddd5b4e046e

regal ginkgoBOT Apr 25, 2025, 2:35 PM

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New [Gen 9] OU RMT @north nimbus, @tacit bluff, @alpine hornet, @low phoenix, @trail whale, @unkempt bough, @empty verge, @echo rampart. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

tacit bluff Apr 25, 2025, 2:40 PM

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this looks fine but I will say the fairy mu is dire

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like enamorus looks at this team and starts frothing at the mouth

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you could certainly appreciate another fairy resist so pecharunt doesn't have to do all the heavy lifting

stone sierra Apr 25, 2025, 4:23 PM

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Maybe swap bolt to specs kyurem and tusk to glowking for a fairy resist+glowrum is goated

hot dome Apr 25, 2025, 5:01 PM

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if you're running specs kyurem you need heavy hazard removal

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please don't give advice if you're not experienced in the tier

limber spire Apr 25, 2025, 7:09 PM

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low phoenix also good god what are those raging bolt evs for

idk

low phoenix Apr 25, 2025, 7:09 PM

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if you dont know just use the smogdex evs tbh

limber spire Apr 25, 2025, 7:17 PM

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https://pokepast.es/cc44eda52404192e

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ok plz tell me this is good

limber spire Apr 25, 2025, 7:18 PM

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low phoenix if you dont know just use the smogdex evs tbh

btw ty for helping me its been helpful

low phoenix Apr 25, 2025, 7:21 PM

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dont use glimmora outside hyper offense

limber spire Apr 25, 2025, 7:39 PM

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low phoenix dont use glimmora outside hyper offense

how about air ballon tinka instead

thin sleet Apr 25, 2025, 7:56 PM

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https://pokepast.es/dedd1328a90392cc How's my most generic OU team?

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my only worry currently is the weakness to rain teams and oger

elder knoll Apr 25, 2025, 8:09 PM

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Knock > Toxic on Gliscor

tepid hazel Apr 25, 2025, 9:21 PM

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https://pokepast.es/fd534873355d87be

regal ginkgoBOT Apr 25, 2025, 9:21 PM

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New [Gen 9] OU RMT @north nimbus, @tacit bluff, @alpine hornet, @low phoenix, @trail whale, @unkempt bough, @empty verge, @echo rampart. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

hot dome Apr 25, 2025, 9:37 PM

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A: this is sv ou rates
B: we do not help unfinished teams

arctic frigate Apr 25, 2025, 9:47 PM

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https://pokepast.es/0ab382ffb440a82f

tepid hazel Apr 25, 2025, 9:50 PM

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Pult is a very poor spinblocker

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I would replace it with gholdengo or sinistcha

arctic frigate Apr 25, 2025, 9:52 PM

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😭

tepid hazel Apr 25, 2025, 9:52 PM

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wait no

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Also uhhh yeah

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Ur team can’t pressure the defoggers

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I would add something like gholdengo which can beat em defensively

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Or even heatran

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Which can beat em offensively and also set rocks

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sooo yeah

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this team is 3/10 hstack

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https://pokepast.es/b980ca5ea195019c

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Maybe something like this

hot dome Apr 25, 2025, 10:00 PM

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please don't give advice, heatran is ass

tepid hazel Apr 25, 2025, 10:00 PM

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hot dome please don't give advice, heatran is ass

I’m just saying

hot dome Apr 25, 2025, 10:01 PM

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ghold is a decent shout but this team does fine into the defoggers right now with garg and gking

tepid hazel Apr 25, 2025, 10:01 PM

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how does gking help

hot dome Apr 25, 2025, 10:01 PM

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if anything pult is more necessary for this team for the offensive pressure it brings

hot dome Apr 25, 2025, 10:02 PM

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tepid hazel how does gking help

can easily come in and threaten future port

tepid hazel Apr 25, 2025, 10:08 PM

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ok

arctic frigate Apr 25, 2025, 10:21 PM

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hot dome if anything pult is more necessary for this team for the offensive pressure it b...

Thats why i brought it

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but is it bad and should i scrap it?

nocturne sable Apr 26, 2025, 12:06 AM

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arctic frigate but is it bad and should i scrap it?

Definitely keep it, it’s your source of breaking power in this team

stone sierra Apr 26, 2025, 2:04 AM

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https://pokepast.es/ff77c1ea8ef3786a tried to make a semistall team

elder knoll Apr 26, 2025, 2:05 AM

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stone sierra https://pokepast.es/ff77c1ea8ef3786a tried to make a semistall team

I’m not sure if Ghold make sense as a semi-stall mon on this build

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Its main utility is keeping hazards up

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your build is two mons hazard removal

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either commit to a boots spam and keep Ghold or drop boots spam and choose a different semi Mon

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Also you either need Clod or Blissey/Chansey

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Lu is going to lose long to Ghold long term because of no recovery

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You also generally want at least one regenerator guy for scouting purposes

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Oh yeah and this has an abysmal Waterpon matchup

stone sierra Apr 26, 2025, 2:10 AM

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oh right that fucking plant that i hate'

elder knoll Apr 26, 2025, 2:10 AM

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😔

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Look at the Garg semi if you want an example of a boots spam semi-stall

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or the Hoopa one for a non-boots spam

stone sierra Apr 26, 2025, 2:11 AM

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https://pokepast.es/66387de2b51f2d16 ?

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from samples?

elder knoll Apr 26, 2025, 2:11 AM

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stone sierra https://pokepast.es/66387de2b51f2d16 ?

It’s in the stallcord samples

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I’m pretty sure you’re in it lemme pull it up

stone sierra Apr 26, 2025, 2:12 AM

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i found it

elder knoll Apr 26, 2025, 2:13 AM

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https://pokepast.es/f02fc864de246b7f

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https://pokepast.es/3971209381b12405

tame sequoia Apr 26, 2025, 2:13 AM

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am i allowed to ask for opinions on my team? this is gen 9, right?

elder knoll Apr 26, 2025, 2:14 AM

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yeah shoot

tame sequoia Apr 26, 2025, 2:14 AM

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https://pokepast.es/727ca3591084a522

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it has prima, kyurem, and val sweep, while treads and cindy pivot. gholdengo sorta does both, but ive never sweeped with it

elder knoll Apr 26, 2025, 2:15 AM

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Ghold is more a of a breaker than Sweeper

tame sequoia Apr 26, 2025, 2:15 AM

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ah.

low phoenix Apr 26, 2025, 2:33 AM

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tame sequoia https://pokepast.es/727ca3591084a522

Where is your ground switch in

tame sequoia Apr 26, 2025, 2:34 AM

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would corv over treads work?

low phoenix Apr 26, 2025, 2:35 AM

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I think zap over Ghold works

elder knoll Apr 26, 2025, 2:37 AM

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What is AV treads for

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tame sequoia Apr 26, 2025, 2:37 AM

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bolt

low phoenix Apr 26, 2025, 2:37 AM

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Av treads is prob useable

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Not a standard set tho

elder knoll Apr 26, 2025, 2:38 AM

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Doesn’t it already 1v1 Bolt though?

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worrywhirl

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Or am I misremembering the calcs

low phoenix Apr 26, 2025, 2:38 AM

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Yea

tame sequoia Apr 26, 2025, 2:38 AM

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not that well after calmmind

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or tera fairy

low phoenix Apr 26, 2025, 2:38 AM

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Maybe he also wants to improve his rai matchup

tame sequoia Apr 26, 2025, 2:38 AM

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but it does

low phoenix Apr 26, 2025, 2:39 AM

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Don’t really use treads tho as he is usually on fast offense teams

tame sequoia Apr 26, 2025, 2:40 AM

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treads is a nice switch in, but it never does anything after switching

elder knoll Apr 26, 2025, 2:40 AM

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this team is kinda weird since sub Kyu teams are usually really fat

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flop

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I can’t really tell if it’s good or bad

low phoenix Apr 26, 2025, 2:40 AM

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sub kyu has a place on more offense teams

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ive seen it in g terrain

elder knoll Apr 26, 2025, 2:41 AM

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G-terrain is boosting Kyu’s own fatness

tame sequoia Apr 26, 2025, 2:41 AM

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i think i tried that, but i never really got rillaboom

elder knoll Apr 26, 2025, 2:41 AM

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Rillaboom isn’t great

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loses to Corv, loses to Skarm, hates Molt, hates Zap, hates Pech

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doesn’t like Weezing very much

low phoenix Apr 26, 2025, 2:42 AM

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rillaboom just supports its mons these days with knock in ou these days tbh

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its checks are everywhere

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if you want a instant power breaker use wogerpon/volcanion

elder knoll Apr 26, 2025, 2:43 AM

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gmcat

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or like Luna or something

low phoenix Apr 26, 2025, 2:43 AM

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use luna in like screens or grassy terrain

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it needs massive support

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because its speed is so bad

tame sequoia Apr 26, 2025, 2:44 AM

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low phoenix I think zap over Ghold works

does zap check iron val?

low phoenix Apr 26, 2025, 2:44 AM

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yes

elder knoll Apr 26, 2025, 2:44 AM

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kind of

low phoenix Apr 26, 2025, 2:44 AM

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val dont wanna get para

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or get hit by hurricane

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especially physical val

elder knoll Apr 26, 2025, 2:45 AM

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If Zap is chipped it’s getting 2HKO by moonblast

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on physdef sets

tame sequoia Apr 26, 2025, 2:45 AM

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spdef sets?

low phoenix Apr 26, 2025, 2:45 AM

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its a check not a counter

tame sequoia Apr 26, 2025, 2:45 AM

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or is that weird?

low phoenix Apr 26, 2025, 2:46 AM

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zap is typically phys def

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it wanna switch into great tusk

elder knoll Apr 26, 2025, 2:46 AM

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Para robs games

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worrywhirl

tame sequoia Apr 26, 2025, 2:48 AM

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does prima not beat tusk?

low phoenix Apr 26, 2025, 2:48 AM

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prima trades with tusk at full health in a best case scenario

tame sequoia Apr 26, 2025, 2:48 AM

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cause it lives headlong and kills with draining kiss

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(after stat drops)

low phoenix Apr 26, 2025, 2:49 AM

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but anything below full health it dont wanna take a headlong rush

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so no

tame sequoia Apr 26, 2025, 2:49 AM

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yeah, true

elder knoll Apr 26, 2025, 2:49 AM

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Tusk is faster

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flop

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also why not sub on Prim

tame sequoia Apr 26, 2025, 2:50 AM

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i hate prim without draining kiss

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it just doesnt make sense to me

elder knoll Apr 26, 2025, 2:50 AM

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You could go for a fat sub build

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worrywhirl

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The spread you have rn is more of an HO guy

tame sequoia Apr 26, 2025, 2:51 AM

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why sub over kiss?
also, what's ho mean?

elder knoll Apr 26, 2025, 2:51 AM

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HO = Hyper offense

elder knoll Apr 26, 2025, 2:51 AM

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tame sequoia why sub over kiss? also, what's ho mean?

Let’s you avoid status since it takes a bit for Prim to get going

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Harder to revenge kill asw

tame sequoia Apr 26, 2025, 2:52 AM

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what status beats prima tho? twave is annoying, but you dont need speed; burn is fixed by the draining kiss heals; toxic is beat by tera steel or just letting prim die

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kiss gets the health back too, so its still hard to kill

elder knoll Apr 26, 2025, 2:53 AM

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worrywhirl

tame sequoia Apr 26, 2025, 2:53 AM

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(not trynna be mean i just dont get it)

magic walrus Apr 26, 2025, 2:53 AM

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This question is better asked in #comp-general

elder knoll Apr 26, 2025, 2:53 AM

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do you want to commit to Tera prim against every single clod

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and still lose to clod

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gmcat

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as it stands this team has no outs against stall

tame sequoia Apr 26, 2025, 2:54 AM

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sub kyurem, but yeah, that's true

elder knoll Apr 26, 2025, 2:54 AM

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sub Kyu does nothing into Blissey

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😔

tame sequoia Apr 26, 2025, 2:54 AM

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pressure stall :)

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/j

elder knoll Apr 26, 2025, 2:54 AM

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worrywhirl

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something tells me that isn’t gonna work

low phoenix Apr 26, 2025, 2:55 AM

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I think if you’re moving the discussion away from rates you should talk in #comp-general

elder knoll Apr 26, 2025, 2:55 AM

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gmcat goodbye before Faya tosses us in jail

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🫡

tame sequoia Apr 26, 2025, 2:55 AM

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alright. well, are there other things about the team to say?

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other than iffy stall matchup?

elder knoll Apr 26, 2025, 2:56 AM

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Webs matchup also isn’t great

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worrywhirl

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tbh

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this is like ideal webs gaming

tame sequoia Apr 26, 2025, 2:56 AM

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still loses through double hazard removal?

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and air balloon?

elder knoll Apr 26, 2025, 2:56 AM

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they don’t need to even webs

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I’m pretty sure

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their mons still outspeed

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everything

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worrywhirl

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besides valiant

tame sequoia Apr 26, 2025, 2:57 AM

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webs mons outspeed cindy?

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(prolly i just dk web teams)

elder knoll Apr 26, 2025, 2:58 AM

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Moth should be able to beat Ace

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worrywhirl

tame sequoia Apr 26, 2025, 2:58 AM

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i do have a bad moth matchup, dont i

elder knoll Apr 26, 2025, 2:58 AM

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Booster speed looks rough yeah

tame sequoia Apr 26, 2025, 2:58 AM

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even just max speed is bad

elder knoll Apr 26, 2025, 2:59 AM

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just hope they don’t read the Tera on Prim

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Opposing Valiant could also be rough

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since they outspeed your Valiant on booster speed sets

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Depending on their set it could be a nightmare

opaque shale Apr 26, 2025, 5:52 AM

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https://pokepast.es/a2b544c4674c76c2

regal ginkgoBOT Apr 26, 2025, 5:52 AM

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New [Gen 9] OU RMT @north nimbus, @tacit bluff, @alpine hornet, @low phoenix, @trail whale, @unkempt bough, @empty verge, @echo rampart. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

opaque shale Apr 26, 2025, 5:52 AM

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My fav team ive built so far

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Im ready to hear the “none of these sets or mons are viable”

hot dome Apr 26, 2025, 5:53 AM

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Yeah

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!gen9ousamples

regal ginkgoBOT Apr 26, 2025, 5:53 AM

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Gen 9 OU Samples: https://www.smogon.com/forums/threads/3712513/

opaque shale Apr 26, 2025, 5:54 AM

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Samples are ok but this team is more fun

stone sierra Apr 26, 2025, 5:54 AM

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This is a comp server

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Ie optimize for winning

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Not fun

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Which could be the same thing depending on your preferences

opaque shale Apr 26, 2025, 5:55 AM

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This is a rmt channel not whatever ur saying

hot dome Apr 26, 2025, 5:56 AM

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this is a comp server

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optimized for winning

opaque shale Apr 26, 2025, 5:56 AM

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And all im asking for is an rmt

hot dome Apr 26, 2025, 5:56 AM

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if you want to show off your teams sure, not in this channel

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ok and the rate i give you is that it's unviable

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you know this, idk why you're here asking

opaque shale Apr 26, 2025, 5:56 AM

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Yea i wasnt talking about you tho

hot dome Apr 26, 2025, 5:56 AM

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ok well i'm a rater, and this is the official rate i give you

stone sierra Apr 26, 2025, 5:56 AM

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Swept by ogerpon/10

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🥀

opaque shale Apr 26, 2025, 5:57 AM

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1 tidy up sweeps ogerpon

hot dome Apr 26, 2025, 5:57 AM

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almost all of these sets are unviable two of these picks are unviable with the third running the wrong set + kinda ass in general

stone sierra Apr 26, 2025, 5:57 AM

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Also glaceon

hot dome Apr 26, 2025, 5:57 AM

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actually 3 and 4, not 2 and 3

opaque shale Apr 26, 2025, 5:57 AM

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hot dome almost all of these sets are unviable two of these picks are unviable with the t...

Which is what

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Glaceon only comes out in snow

stone sierra Apr 26, 2025, 5:58 AM

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Glaceon shouldn’t

opaque shale Apr 26, 2025, 5:58 AM

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hot dome actually 3 and 4, not 2 and 3

Im all for the tips but ill listen to a rater not this random tinglu glazer

hot dome Apr 26, 2025, 5:58 AM

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glaceon maus both bad, glaceon utterly unviable while maus can't break past popular phys def walls in corv, hoopa set unviable + hoopa mid af in general, same with blaziken

stone sierra Apr 26, 2025, 5:58 AM

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Man posts team in team rating channel
Shocked when told team is shit

hot dome Apr 26, 2025, 5:58 AM

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This team isn't viable, you know this, please refer to samples and learn the tier first

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!gen9ousamples

regal ginkgoBOT Apr 26, 2025, 5:58 AM

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Gen 9 OU Samples: https://www.smogon.com/forums/threads/3712513/

opaque shale Apr 26, 2025, 5:59 AM

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stone sierra Man posts team in team rating channel Shocked when told team is shit

Maybe you should leave the ratings to raters

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I know my team isnt “viable” in the tier

hot dome Apr 26, 2025, 5:59 AM

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stop fighting in here this isn't the channel for it

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you have been given the advice, ting lu fan drop it

stone sierra Apr 26, 2025, 5:59 AM

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https://pokepast.es/08eca5b0c815550b I’d go with this team

stone sierra Apr 26, 2025, 6:00 AM

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hot dome you have been given the advice, ting lu fan drop it

Kk

opaque shale Apr 26, 2025, 6:00 AM

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Ill try it out

stone sierra Apr 26, 2025, 6:00 AM

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It’s fun

opaque shale Apr 26, 2025, 6:00 AM

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Imma try it rn

stone sierra Apr 26, 2025, 6:00 AM

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Kyurem and ting lu will solo entire teams

magic walrus Apr 26, 2025, 6:01 AM

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Basically

opaque shale Apr 26, 2025, 6:01 AM

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So does maushold (minus rocky helm)

magic walrus Apr 26, 2025, 6:02 AM

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Nuh uh

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Most corvs now run helm

opaque shale Apr 26, 2025, 6:02 AM

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Yea ik

magic walrus Apr 26, 2025, 6:02 AM

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And tusk

opaque shale Apr 26, 2025, 6:03 AM

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Umbreon mf user was rocking helm

stone sierra Apr 26, 2025, 6:03 AM

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magic walrus Most corvs now run helm

U turn spam teams are so annoying

hot dome Apr 26, 2025, 6:03 AM

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take this conversation to another channel

low phoenix Apr 26, 2025, 6:03 AM

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Maushold when a rocky helmet user/bulky ghost exists

opaque shale Apr 26, 2025, 6:03 AM

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low phoenix Maushold when a rocky helmet user/bulky ghost exists

Tera ghost shadow claw

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After 2 tidy up

low phoenix Apr 26, 2025, 6:03 AM

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Priority

magic walrus Apr 26, 2025, 6:03 AM

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Just take what clod fan said and move this to #comp-general

low phoenix Apr 26, 2025, 6:03 AM

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Kingambit sucker punch

magic walrus Apr 26, 2025, 6:04 AM

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Heck even lolix

stone sierra Apr 26, 2025, 6:04 AM

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https://pokepast.es/a2b74541e63c7f87 can I get some feedback on this team?

low phoenix Apr 26, 2025, 6:10 AM

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stone sierra https://pokepast.es/a2b74541e63c7f87 can I get some feedback on this team?

Ting Lu would really appreciate some wish support from mola

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It’s going to get chipped in an extended game as your stall team would try to go for

stone sierra Apr 26, 2025, 6:11 AM

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What should I replace?

opaque shale Apr 26, 2025, 6:12 AM

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Amoon

narrow dome Apr 26, 2025, 6:12 AM

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Keep cooking

low phoenix Apr 26, 2025, 6:12 AM

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There was a stall team with ting Lu in the previous samples but it’s outdated now as most stall these days are double removal with g weezing

stone sierra Apr 26, 2025, 6:12 AM

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opaque shale Amoon

I need an ogerpon wall

opaque shale Apr 26, 2025, 6:12 AM

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narrow dome Keep cooking

Am chef fr

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Tbh i forfeit alot when im playing at work

low phoenix Apr 26, 2025, 6:13 AM

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The stallcord is a better place to ask tbh I’m not a stall player lmao

opaque shale Apr 26, 2025, 6:13 AM

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Bro this channel for rmt tho :/

magic walrus Apr 26, 2025, 6:13 AM

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narrow dome Keep cooking

IvE pLaYeD sHiTtY pLaYeRs AnD cAlLeD tHiS tEaM gOoD

stone sierra Apr 26, 2025, 6:13 AM

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I asked there

opaque shale Apr 26, 2025, 6:13 AM

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Clodsire gunna get mad

stone sierra Apr 26, 2025, 6:13 AM

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I didn’t get much

low phoenix Apr 26, 2025, 6:13 AM

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opaque shale Bro this channel for rmt tho :/

We rate viable teams

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Glaceon is unviable

opaque shale Apr 26, 2025, 6:14 AM

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Roast me in gen if u want not here

low phoenix Apr 26, 2025, 6:14 AM

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Therefore we cannot rate it as having glaceon in a team makes it unviable as now you have a dead weight Mon

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Do you understand my logic

magic walrus Apr 26, 2025, 6:14 AM

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And more unviab

magic walrus Apr 26, 2025, 6:15 AM

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low phoenix The stallcord is a better place to ask tbh I’m not a stall player lmao

Stall player = heartless

opaque shale Apr 26, 2025, 6:16 AM

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low phoenix Do you understand my logic

All i know is glaceon got that dog in em

stone sierra Apr 26, 2025, 6:17 AM

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magic walrus Stall player = heartless

I was called a “mentally gifted” person on ladder today

magic walrus Apr 26, 2025, 6:17 AM

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opaque shale All i know is glaceon got that dog in em

In the 1000-1100 Elo peoples

low phoenix Apr 26, 2025, 6:17 AM

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They just don’t know how to play vs stall ignore them lmao

hot dome Apr 26, 2025, 6:17 AM

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Stop this conversation and take it to general

magic walrus Apr 26, 2025, 6:17 AM

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stone sierra I was called a “mentally gifted” person on ladder today

WTH

foggy pivot Apr 26, 2025, 6:22 AM

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https://pokepast.es/78aed83a61e4bf17

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Anything I need to change

elder knoll Apr 26, 2025, 7:10 AM

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foggy pivot https://pokepast.es/78aed83a61e4bf17

Boots on Zama

foggy pivot Apr 26, 2025, 7:10 AM

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Iron press zama with boots?

elder knoll Apr 26, 2025, 7:10 AM

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I like AoA but you might have to go boots here

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if Zama is coming in more than once

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since you’re relying on it to check Gambit

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which it does look like on this build

foggy pivot Apr 26, 2025, 7:12 AM

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Iron press isn't usually run with boots

elder knoll Apr 26, 2025, 7:12 AM

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yep

foggy pivot Apr 26, 2025, 7:12 AM

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Because it would lack recovery

elder knoll Apr 26, 2025, 7:12 AM

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yep

foggy pivot Apr 26, 2025, 7:12 AM

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You're trying to make my iron press zama suboptimal aren't you

elder knoll Apr 26, 2025, 7:12 AM

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No

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worrywhirl

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on this build

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in particular you might benefit from boots

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since you’re relying on it to check Gambit

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if your guy comes in multiple times to check gambit

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boots beats out lefties

foggy pivot Apr 26, 2025, 7:13 AM

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Hm

elder knoll Apr 26, 2025, 7:15 AM

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It’s really up to you whether or not you think Zama is going to need to come in multiple times

foggy pivot Apr 26, 2025, 7:15 AM

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At this point, I should just run restochesto

foggy pivot Apr 26, 2025, 7:15 AM

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elder knoll It’s really up to you whether or not you think Zama is going to need to come in ...

I usually use it as a wincon

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And a physical wall

elder knoll Apr 26, 2025, 7:15 AM

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I mean you’ve already got phasing from Lu

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So resto chesto isn’t a bad idea

foggy pivot Apr 26, 2025, 7:15 AM

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Lu is my special wall

elder knoll Apr 26, 2025, 7:16 AM

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bro can eat a physical hit if needed bro has more raw bulk than Dozo

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worrywhirl

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you’ve also got Pech

foggy pivot Apr 26, 2025, 7:16 AM

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Dozo is passive

elder knoll Apr 26, 2025, 7:16 AM

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with a little luck you check

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every physical attacker

foggy pivot Apr 26, 2025, 7:16 AM

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Fine fine

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I'll run restochesto

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My favorite set

elder knoll Apr 26, 2025, 7:19 AM

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stone sierra https://pokepast.es/a2b74541e63c7f87 can I get some feedback on this team?

Looks fairy solid I would just through avalanche over waterfall on Dozo and put rest on Li

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since no Mola

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😔 unfortunately

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also no f-sight absorber so either slap tect on Lu or Blissey

narrow dome Apr 26, 2025, 7:21 AM

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stone sierra https://pokepast.es/a2b74541e63c7f87 can I get some feedback on this team?

Iam pretty sure ting lu is suboptimal

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For stall

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Because it lacks recovery

elder knoll Apr 26, 2025, 7:21 AM

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It’s like B in the stall VR bro is just fat af

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worrywhirl

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and a dark type + hazards

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three decent traits

narrow dome Apr 26, 2025, 7:22 AM

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Yea a stall Mon w fsight immunity

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I don't play sv ou but shouldn't blissey be just superior to ting lu on stall builds

elder knoll Apr 26, 2025, 7:23 AM

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you need at least a secondary special wall paired with Blissey

narrow dome Apr 26, 2025, 7:23 AM

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Ttar is also better specifically for stall

elder knoll Apr 26, 2025, 7:23 AM

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not really

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you have 2 focus blast weak guys then

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flop

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one gets absolutely murked

narrow dome Apr 26, 2025, 7:24 AM

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elder knoll you have 2 focus blast weak guys then

Fair trade off for double knock off

elder knoll Apr 26, 2025, 7:24 AM

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T-tar sand

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also kinda hurts you

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gmcat

narrow dome Apr 26, 2025, 7:25 AM

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Well I don't play sv ou so ur probably right

elder knoll Apr 26, 2025, 7:25 AM

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plus Lu is bringing a volt switch immunity

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😔

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you don’t wanna get caught in a volt turn mixer

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mfw raging bolt and Scizor 6-0 you without a specially defensive ground

tepid hazel Apr 26, 2025, 12:38 PM

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elder knoll mfw raging bolt and Scizor 6-0 you without a specially defensive ground

Which reminds me

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https://pokepast.es/e71b2408e5b7cdb6

regal ginkgoBOT Apr 26, 2025, 12:39 PM

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New [Gen 9] OU RMT @north nimbus, @tacit bluff, @alpine hornet, @low phoenix, @trail whale, @unkempt bough, @empty verge, @echo rampart. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

barren ridge Apr 26, 2025, 2:12 PM

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opaque shale Im ready to hear the “none of these sets or mons are viable”

Which is what you were told with a nearly identical team a week prior. If you're going to post a modified version of the team at least take the feedback into account and take the necessary steps to improve it before posting an updated version of it. If you were told to use samples then as you were now, then you need to reassess what you're actually building. Re-read the RMT rules #1024432517077540904.

Lastly, if you're going to misuse the rmt channels for picking fights as you did, then you'll find yourself restricted from the competitive channels.

barren ridge Apr 26, 2025, 2:13 PM

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narrow dome Keep cooking

You didn't need to prolong the exchange either

tepid hazel Apr 26, 2025, 3:18 PM

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opaque shale https://pokepast.es/a2b544c4674c76c2

swap out glaceon first of all

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Second of all add focus energy to blaziken

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Third of all use samples until you know how to build

nocturne sable Apr 26, 2025, 3:20 PM

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tepid hazel Second of all add focus energy to blaziken

This is not really good advice :/

tepid hazel Apr 26, 2025, 3:21 PM

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nocturne sable This is not really good advice :/

focus energy overheat blaziken is heat

barren ridge Apr 26, 2025, 3:21 PM

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They were already directed to a sample, you’ve also been told to not give advice when you don’t understand the metagame

tepid hazel Apr 26, 2025, 3:21 PM

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It’s surface level advice not like I’m changing the whole team

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but I don’t wanna argue

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https://pokepast.es/e71b2408e5b7cdb6

nocturne sable Apr 26, 2025, 3:24 PM

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tepid hazel It’s surface level advice not like I’m changing the whole team

Telling someone to use another unviable set isn’t really surface level advice.

opaque shale Apr 26, 2025, 5:37 PM

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🗣️

stone sierra Apr 27, 2025, 12:48 AM

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https://pokepast.es/37fdddd1ca2b41b4 by far my most schizophrenic brew but it’s been p fun so far

regal ginkgoBOT Apr 27, 2025, 12:48 AM

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New [Gen 9] OU RMT @north nimbus, @tacit bluff, @alpine hornet, @low phoenix, @trail whale, @unkempt bough, @empty verge, @echo rampart. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

stone sierra Apr 27, 2025, 12:48 AM

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I wanted to see how 4x regen would work

low phoenix Apr 27, 2025, 12:48 AM

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lokix without hazard removal

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sounds right

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your team is half stall and half bulky offense which is just

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weird

nocturne sable Apr 27, 2025, 12:56 AM

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stone sierra https://pokepast.es/37fdddd1ca2b41b4 by far my most schizophrenic brew but it’s ...

You have to commit fully to stall if your e running stall

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Glowking ain’t really a stall Mon

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And if you’re running semi stall you would usually run a strong stall breaker like Hoopa-U, garg, etc

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Lando also doesn’t fit on stall

stone sierra Apr 27, 2025, 3:48 AM

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i changed that team into a balance team

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https://pokepast.es/c1f86730c55faff7

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its been doing better than i thought it would

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feels kinda bad into espeed dnite

elder knoll Apr 27, 2025, 4:14 AM

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You need more removal

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to use Lokix and specs Kyu

stone sierra Apr 27, 2025, 4:25 AM

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elder knoll to use Lokix and specs Kyu

What should I replace?

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Prolly Lando right? Originally had him as a glisc counter before I added kyurem

opaque shale Apr 27, 2025, 5:05 AM

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https://pokepast.es/761c00db17bea7ea

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Do i need hazard control

low phoenix Apr 27, 2025, 5:21 AM

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stone sierra https://pokepast.es/c1f86730c55faff7

if youre building around specs kyurem i recommend just using the sample specs kyu needs heavy support and you have to build around it

stone sierra Apr 27, 2025, 5:21 AM

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I use the sample, I want to try out balance with 2 regen pokemon

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It feels p powerful

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What should I swap kyu out for?

low phoenix Apr 27, 2025, 5:26 AM

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specs pult can work probs

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also change mola to assault best

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slack off to thunder wave on gking

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axe kick to leech life on lokix

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lando t to its standard rocks set with earth power

stone sierra Apr 27, 2025, 5:28 AM

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low phoenix also change mola to assault best

Vest?

low phoenix Apr 27, 2025, 5:28 AM

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yea

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typo lol

stone sierra Apr 27, 2025, 5:28 AM

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What do I replace wish and protect with

low phoenix Apr 27, 2025, 5:29 AM

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specs pult so you have a speed control option and a second breaker that threatens lokix's switchins like moltres zapdos corviknight etc

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the smogon set for av

stone sierra Apr 27, 2025, 5:29 AM

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low phoenix specs pult can work probs

Ngl I hate how dragapult has 14 trillion different sets

low phoenix Apr 27, 2025, 5:30 AM

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the main viable sets are boots hex specs and band

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its set variety is managable

stone sierra Apr 27, 2025, 5:30 AM

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Ik but the band/specs sets throw me off

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It feels like a coin flip switching into pult

low phoenix Apr 27, 2025, 5:31 AM

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if it takes hazard damage its prob specs/band if not its boots hex

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kingambit ting lu garganacl clefable tinkaton are decent switch ins

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iron valiant scarf ghold and dazzling gleam iron moth can revenge kill

stone sierra Apr 27, 2025, 5:34 AM

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I will never include gambit in any of my teams

low phoenix Apr 27, 2025, 5:34 AM

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why not

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kingambit is kingambit

stone sierra Apr 27, 2025, 5:34 AM

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I think it’s pure dogshit design

low phoenix Apr 27, 2025, 5:34 AM

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it will always have a place in offense teams

stone sierra Apr 27, 2025, 5:34 AM

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Incredibly unfun to play and fight

low phoenix Apr 27, 2025, 5:34 AM

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then i cant help you

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you either use kingambit or you dont

stone sierra Apr 27, 2025, 5:34 AM

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That’s my only aversion

low phoenix Apr 27, 2025, 5:34 AM

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then play a tier without kingambit

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like uu

stone sierra Apr 27, 2025, 5:35 AM

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No ting lu

low phoenix Apr 27, 2025, 5:35 AM

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or 35pokes

stone sierra Apr 27, 2025, 5:35 AM

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🥀

low phoenix Apr 27, 2025, 5:35 AM

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you can tech body press on ting lu if you have another hazard setter

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https://pokepast.es/f3e37fe5f46db5a0

stone sierra Apr 27, 2025, 5:36 AM

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I’ll give it a shot

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Ty

glad crown Apr 27, 2025, 7:49 AM

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Hi

fair ember Apr 27, 2025, 10:12 AM

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https://pokepast.es/435f4bcab6474ed0

regal ginkgoBOT Apr 27, 2025, 10:12 AM

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New [Gen 9] OU RMT @north nimbus, @tacit bluff, @alpine hornet, @low phoenix, @trail whale, @unkempt bough, @empty verge, @echo rampart. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

magic walrus Apr 27, 2025, 10:18 AM

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fair ember https://pokepast.es/435f4bcab6474ed0

What is the cloak ghol for

fair ember Apr 27, 2025, 10:22 AM

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honestly not sure

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i didnt know what to use

magic walrus Apr 27, 2025, 10:52 AM

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alr just wait for a rater here then as im not one

arctic frigate Apr 27, 2025, 1:06 PM

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Whats ur line vs meowscarada

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and no removal when u have 3 mons that cant switch into spikes

gritty lake Apr 27, 2025, 2:06 PM

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https://pokepast.es/17ea24afb0c23cc8 the idea is chomp breaks through stuff like molt tusk ghold etc so that val and kgb can go nuts

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Also molt is tera grass

cold cosmos Apr 27, 2025, 2:15 PM

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https://pokepast.es/0b7d533841d8e452

cold cosmos Apr 27, 2025, 2:15 PM

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gritty lake https://pokepast.es/17ea24afb0c23cc8 the idea is chomp breaks through stuff like...

no scale shit garchomp is shot

potent fable Apr 27, 2025, 4:53 PM

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cold cosmos no scale shit garchomp is shot

what does that even mean

cold cosmos Apr 27, 2025, 4:57 PM

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potent fable what does that even mean

haha

tacit bluff Apr 27, 2025, 5:23 PM

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tbf

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scale shot is far from mandatory

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in fact that right there is a set thats been popping up

gritty lake Apr 27, 2025, 6:04 PM

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Well, how is the team

low phoenix Apr 27, 2025, 6:43 PM

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should be fine imo

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life orb chomp is apparently great at breaking fat teams

nocturne sable Apr 27, 2025, 8:06 PM

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cold cosmos no scale shit garchomp is shot

Scale shot chomp is so fake

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Literally just a budget dragonite but has to sack defense drops for speed

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Also has a chance of missing

tacit bluff Apr 27, 2025, 8:08 PM

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its meh yeah

low phoenix Apr 27, 2025, 8:33 PM

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chomp is better at breaking balance than dragonite but thats about it

arctic frigate Apr 27, 2025, 9:13 PM

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https://pokepast.es/3903de96bdeea03a

regal ginkgoBOT Apr 27, 2025, 9:13 PM

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New [Gen 9] OU RMT @north nimbus, @tacit bluff, @alpine hornet, @low phoenix, @trail whale, @unkempt bough, @empty verge, @echo rampart. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

arctic frigate Apr 27, 2025, 9:13 PM

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Tested it and feels pretty good

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Not sure abt ghold set

potent fable Apr 27, 2025, 10:40 PM

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https://pokepast.es/c6ffec2fc3c1086c Opinion ?

arctic frigate Apr 27, 2025, 10:54 PM

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What is sinistha there for

potent fable Apr 27, 2025, 11:14 PM

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arctic frigate What is sinistha there for

answer to Ogerpon-W, Great Tusk, and Zamazenta.

stone sierra Apr 28, 2025, 12:14 AM

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low phoenix https://pokepast.es/f3e37fe5f46db5a0

ngl the tinkaton set is crazy

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its won so many games for me

fallow escarp Apr 28, 2025, 3:01 AM

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https://pokepast.es/2710c16659c15e8c

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Tried to make a hazard stack team but hazards are not how I'm winning games

stone sierra Apr 28, 2025, 3:02 AM

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This new dnite set has been going around

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It’s tera blast flying sub dance encore

fallow escarp Apr 28, 2025, 3:03 AM

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Yeah beats a lot of stuff endgame, Zama, Corv, kingambit

fallow escarp Apr 28, 2025, 3:04 AM

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stone sierra It’s tera blast flying sub dance encore

Sub!?

stone sierra Apr 28, 2025, 3:05 AM

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With inner focus lefties

fallow escarp Apr 28, 2025, 3:05 AM

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Sounds interesting ngl

stone sierra Apr 28, 2025, 3:05 AM

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Person who invented it swept dbd with it

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Sounds decent

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I tried it and it won some games

fallow escarp Apr 28, 2025, 3:06 AM

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What ev distribution were u using

stone sierra Apr 28, 2025, 3:06 AM

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Lemme ask raine

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Oh wait

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They’re asleep

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I think max attack/speed

fallow escarp Apr 28, 2025, 3:07 AM

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I'll try it out, dunno if it's the best fit on this team because I dragonite's my only priority

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Do you think I should swap Tusk for a defensive set?

stone sierra Apr 28, 2025, 3:55 AM

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I’d take any advice I give with a grain of salt, the dnite set is smth a much better player came up with

tawny olive Apr 28, 2025, 8:18 AM

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https://pokepast.es/9b90dbb2a4979dbc

Replay of the teams performance
https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9ou-2352305532

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regal ginkgoBOT Apr 28, 2025, 8:18 AM

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New [Gen 9] OU RMT @north nimbus, @tacit bluff, @alpine hornet, @low phoenix, @trail whale, @unkempt bough, @empty verge, @echo rampart. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

hot dome Apr 28, 2025, 9:01 AM

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Very strange comp you have here, what’s the structure?

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This team seems to do quite poorly into special attackers

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This looks like a weird attempt at balance but your defensive pieces aren’t sturdy enough

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Alternatively, if this is trying to be bulky offense, you need a lot more offensive mons, Ogerpon-T just ain’t it and boots Bolt isn’t very good in current meta either

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Spdef treads is a weird pick in general

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Especially since you’re boots spam with double knock absorber

gritty lake Apr 28, 2025, 9:33 AM

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https://pokepast.es/2e464d9782ae3dd0 feels weak to kyurem hence the tera steel on molt

magic walrus Apr 28, 2025, 10:00 AM

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Boots treads

arctic frigate Apr 28, 2025, 10:00 AM

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https://pokepast.es/5308e0003b657aac

magic walrus Apr 28, 2025, 10:00 AM

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:/

gritty lake Apr 28, 2025, 10:01 AM

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magic walrus Boots treads

why not

magic walrus Apr 28, 2025, 10:02 AM

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I mean ig but rocks only do 3percent

gritty lake Apr 28, 2025, 10:04 AM

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i want to be able to spin away webs and spikes more comfortably

magic walrus Apr 28, 2025, 10:05 AM

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Ok

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Now just wait for rmt

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I’m not one

eager plaza Apr 28, 2025, 4:12 PM

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https://pokepast.es/67ee7d021922136a
Vikavolt goes well against Zamazenta's checks and my team kinda as a whole can live at least 2 attacks except for fire/rock type moves and ohkos ival tera blast fairy, most grass, dark, and psychic types, great tusk, 2kos kingambit w volt switch etcetc... and it also outspeeds non bulk up great tusk+ohkos it+walls it generally bec of levitate and also other ground types

regal ginkgoBOT Apr 28, 2025, 4:12 PM

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New [Gen 9] OU RMT @north nimbus, @tacit bluff, @alpine hornet, @low phoenix, @trail whale, @unkempt bough, @empty verge, @echo rampart. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

low phoenix Apr 28, 2025, 5:10 PM

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Not sure what vikavolt is doing especially when it is so slow even with scarf

arctic frigate Apr 28, 2025, 5:43 PM

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arctic frigate https://pokepast.es/5308e0003b657aac

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low phoenix Apr 28, 2025, 5:50 PM

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how much trouble are you having with hex pult?

arctic frigate Apr 28, 2025, 5:55 PM

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A decent bit

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Just clicks u turn for free

low phoenix Apr 28, 2025, 5:57 PM

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you can slap on tinkaton or sd scor somewhere if you are concerned about hex putlt

arctic frigate Apr 28, 2025, 5:57 PM

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How exactly does tinka stop hex pult?

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And how does it look for the rest? Is it okay?

low phoenix Apr 28, 2025, 6:02 PM

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it can switch into its attacks

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or steal its boots with pickpocket

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