SV OU Rates

[hot dome]

none of these checks will blanket counter darkrai/kyurem

[low phoenix]

Probably tinkaton or iron valiant but yea Clod is right nothing can counter these two long term

[pale mortar]

https://pokepast.es/5003ea3460415e4d

any changes i should make?
just started pvping currently at 1.4k elo

[regal ginkgo]

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[pseudo condor]

https://pokepast.es/c2d1b539394b8815

Any suggestions for improvements? Apart from night shade needing to be replaced by shadow ball

[narrow crest]

https://pokepast.es/c6d3f8aa30404674

[tepid hazel]

Is team any good? Haven't played in a month https://pokepast.es/ffcac0b54827e075

[tepid hazel]

That and drop boomburst

[tepid hazel]

Love this team ❤️

[tepid hazel]

I get the snow-ice bit but I still wouldn't run ice fang

0 atk on iron crown

[tacit bluff]

iron crown can't have 0 atk legally

[tepid hazel]

What 😭

[tacit bluff]

no clue why torkoal is holding the terrain extender, its heat rock ur thinking about, boomburst on rilla isn't a good option with the myriad of steel types in the tier you just end up walled by kingambit and gholdengo, just slot high horsepower instead. Chandelure isn't viable so drop it for smth like walking wake, everything else seems fine although what are kingambits evs for

[tacit bluff]

its a static encounter with locked IVs

it always has 20 attack ivs

[tepid hazel]

That’s weird

[tacit bluff]

so you can't legally have an iron crown with lower attack

[tepid hazel]

anyways your team looks really good

[tacit bluff]

what team style is this? you have a few breakers but no actual win con despite this looking like bulky offence

one of your pivots can act as a proper sweeper, such as ogerpon, even hatt can be calm mind

otherwise this is fine, I'd be a lil careful about the ogerpon matchup though

[tacit bluff]

this is pretty standard darkspam ho, I'd make prim calm mind tho, otherwise this is fine

[tepid hazel]

Should I change zama’s set

I keep switching around and don’t know what’s good

[livid yew]

https://pokepast.es/e75fe6dc13cc7526 thoughts on this ?

[livid yew]

is it bad

cuz I just got swept by latios signature move 😭

[tepid hazel]

Hold up

Calm mind is like a whole different set

[tacit bluff]

yeah this is HO

go with a sweeper

plus you maintain your fighting check

which you really need for a fighting weak team

[tepid hazel]

I have trouble with bulky teams

Ting Lu, tusk, glowing

[hot dome]

you shouldnt be losing to ting lu tusk gking with dark spam and primarina

[tepid hazel]

Mainly tusk

I set prima to the base smogon set with psychic noise

[livid yew]

https://pokepast.es/e75fe6dc13cc7526 any tips (sorry for sending twice if that's a problem)

[viral cosmos]

https://pokepast.es/09e24be6170ac9c5 any holes to patch with this mamo team?

[regal ginkgo]

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[hot dome]

Why use mamo if you’re not going to use some of its best traits in rocks and knock

Atp might as just run Kyurem

[viral cosmos]

just wanted to try a physical attacker ice with a passable freeze dry to 2hko mola and 2hko dozo w tera

and strong priority

[tacit bluff]

Dozo and mola still give you a hard time tho

Dozo threatens wave crash meanwhile alo threatens scald burns

[silent hemlock]

https://pokepast.es/de8861750d5c4d26 I think this team is neat but I actually can not break stall at all I would rly like to max out that mu

[regal ginkgo]

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[tacit bluff]

psychic noise over psycho boost on deo s can help you with the stall mu

[silent hemlock]

That loses a lot of power tho doesn't it

[tacit bluff]

it does but its also its more spammable

you could also run psyshock but thats worse for tusk and zama so I wouldn't reccomend it

[silent hemlock]

Idk psycho boost feels like the reason I'm using it and relying on deoxys as my solution to stall feels super shaky

[tacit bluff]

if you make deo s spa boosting you still ohko defensive tusk with psychic noise

and even if you don't its an 87.5% chance to ohko

aside from that ur gonna be relying on knock and keeping hazards up

you have a corviknight answer in the form of moltres so that shouldn't be too big a deal

[silent hemlock]

Maybe its just bad mus bc the stall team I faced that especially made me question it was def not common it had like talonflame

I kind of wanna try running zap instead of molt maybe but idk if I need extra speed control with para

Also maybe swapping at least the zama set

[pale mortar]

ic alr

what should i run over ice fang then

[hot dome]

please don't give advice if you aren't experienced in the tier, just a remidner

[hot dome]

anyways this team lacks breaking power and to a lesser extent speed control: what's your core here? if it's trying to enable sub kyurem, you are running av with chilly reception, which explicilty do not go together

[pale mortar]

tbh idek ;-; i just slap random stuff in and just run i only started pvp for 2 days so dont have much knowledge on the game

oh ye also the av

with chilly

was a mistake

it suppoes to be boots and 252 r def

[hot dome]

honestly this isn't the worst team, with a few changes it could be usable

swap corv for cinderace, swap gking to boots with full spdef hp, swap ogerpon for scarf darkrai, and change zamazenta to iron defense body press

[pale mortar]

alr

[hot dome]

ngl not the biggest fan of the fairy mu but it should be workable

[pale mortar]

thanks

[hot dome]

alternatively scarf ghold could be workable but im not the biggest fan of scarf ghold

[pale mortar]

ic

what would be better set on cinder

max atk

or 32 atk

wtih the rest to hp

ig hp one since we're running cinder here for court change right?

also ngl iron valiant is kinda scary against my team ngl as it got knock off so glowking would take big chip if they predict the swap

[hot dome]

hp

[hot dome]

yeah, like i said, not the biggest fan of the fairy mu

but cinderace + gking should theoretically at least soften the mu

[pale mortar]

ic

alr

[hot dome]

worst coems to worst just run either bulky ghold or scarf ghold

[pale mortar]

hmm alr

[pale mortar]

if im running ghold then who should i swap out for

[hot dome]

darkrai

[pale mortar]

alr

[silver river]

Thoughts (and prayers)

https://pokepast.es/188e95bcbe3fc63e

[tepid hazel]

Thoughts please

https://pokepast.es/54038f24021d52f4

[crude shuttle]

I’m not an expert but that ogerpon set is walled by every steel type in existence.
Iron Moth prefers sludge wave over psychic
Ogerpon has a total of 504 EV, not 508 (it should be 508)
Also the rest of 124 should be in Sp, Def

[low phoenix]

you have no hazards

[pale mortar]

ight

bro

[low phoenix]

this ogerpon set looks ass you are walled by steels and i have never seen an ogerpon with psychic coverage nor i know what it is supposed to hit

mandibuzz feels off on this team it is the most passive member and corviknight is the better defogger the vast majority of the time

change gliscor to lando t for your rocker and ground flying since i assume youre going for a more fast paced offense team

change ogerpon to ogerpon w for your breaker/knocker

i usually use pivot waterpon but swords dance looks fine too

change mandibuzz to bulky kingambit with black glasses/leftovers

and change zama to heavy duty boots

oh yea i didnt notice no sludge wave on iron moth but no poison stab on moth is sus

[low phoenix]

sun and sticky webs are high commit playstyles that generally require you to commit to one or the other

[tepid hazel]

I definitely won't remove rebombee sooo what should I replace torkoal with?

[low phoenix]

also torkoal has fallen off in sun over ninetales as of recent as it is faster and can apply pressure more easily with encore/give a mon a second sweeping chance with healing wish

[tepid hazel]

ahhh I see, I am returning after a while so have no idea of the current META T_T

[low phoenix]

lum berry kingambit

since your team looks weak to darkrai

change gholdengo to its standard air balloon set with psyshock for the stall matchup

raging bolt to tera fairy/bug (you forgot to give evs for raging bolt too)

knock off on ogerpon to play rough for the dragons

roaring moon to standard dragon dance

with knock off/acrobatics/earthquake

oh yea roaring moon is being considered for a suspect so use him while you can (before it potentially gets banned lol)

you can invest some speed evs into bulk for roaring moon btw since you are webs

Roaring Moon @ Booster Energy
Ability: Protosynthesis
Tera Type: Ground
EVs: 200 HP / 132 Def / 176 Spe
Adamant Nature

• Dragon Dance
• Knock Off
• Earthquake
• Roost

like this set

enough speed evs to outspeed kyurem and the hp/def evs i have no clue lol

you can run psychic noise on ribombee over light screen to help vs glimmora leads but glimmoras been falling off lately because of pecharunt stonks rising over the last few months and the last move slot is honestly filler so light screen can be viable i feel like

[tepid hazel]

Will try this 👍

[low phoenix]

you are welcome

let me know how it works btw

trying to become an official rater rn lol

[tepid hazel]

https://pokepast.es/a5b1672d509c5aec

does this seem better?

[regal ginkgo]

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[faint vortex]

I may yet have to review the team. Thanks for the advice!

[livid yew]

https://pokepast.es/be97c0e090683311

[low phoenix]

Change great tusk to Lum berry kingambit but yea much better

[runic nebula]

This is for singles OU

Doubles OU is it’s own separate thread

[echo rampart]

I'd make bolt tera ghost, it's pretty easy to midground tusk and get a free spin off vs it

also timid on ghold with plot, but if 4 atks has been working for you then go for it

[low phoenix]

Oh I didn’t see this but change make it rain or dazzling gleam to nasty plot

Also what story time said

[modern jungle]

https://pokepast.es/918647c835ab1c49 any changes

[regal ginkgo]

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[tepid hazel]

I need a rapid spinner right?

[trail whale]

hazard removal isnt mandatory for HO

Ghold should have NP though, over one of Psyshock or Focus Blast probably

[tepid hazel]

ho?

[pale mortar]

https://pokepast.es/create
ops on this team?

[tepid hazel]

invalid paste

[trail whale]

Hyper Offense, dedicated lead (think Sash Hamurott, Webs setters, Aurora Veil Ninetales) and multiple set up sweepers to keep momentem

[tepid hazel]

ahhh I seee

[pale mortar]

oh shot

https://pokepast.es/37bd7fb1a0728148

here

mb

[low phoenix]

Hmm doesn’t look too bad first glance

You have no hazards tho

[pale mortar]

true ig i might have to run rock on tusk or change smthing

and im debating between dragapult or raging bolt rn for extra piority and air type

[low phoenix]

I think you can try out this team @pale mortar

https://pokepast.es/c8ee090f4eb2f57e

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[low phoenix]

Band Rilla is a good enough breaker on its own so I emphasized filling in holes I felt existed for your team

[pale mortar]

ic alr

ill try thanks

[low phoenix]

I changed to kingambit for a real dark resist you can try black glasses Tera dark if you want

https://pokepast.es/dbd3da8a3c4e22d3

Actually this team

[pale mortar]

alr

any mons i should look out for?

[low phoenix]

https://pokepast.es/274de497a8b631c2

This actually

[pale mortar]

alr

oh dam

no psyshock on glowking?

[low phoenix]

I think that this team should have a defensive and offensive answer to the majority of mons in the tier

This is the standard gking pivot set

Bulky offense btw

[pale mortar]

alr

[low phoenix]

Wait

Oh shit

No flying type

I forgot

[pale mortar]

ah ic ill just swap out thunder wave for psyshock since i feel like psyshock is more helpful against other glowking

and some other MU

[low phoenix]

You have kingambit and dragapult

Your gking matchup is fine

[pale mortar]

true

[low phoenix]

Just change garg to moltres

And give stealth rock to tusk over cc

[pale mortar]

alr

[pale mortar]

roar/u-turn/hurricane which 2 should i pick?

[low phoenix]

whatever u want

i usually go for u-turn/will o wisp but the other moves looks good too

flamethrower and roost are mandatory btw

[pale mortar]

alr

ima just run hurricane cus already got dragapult for will o wisp

[low phoenix]

yea makes sense

[viral cosmos]

https://pokepast.es/3fc7849c70d64c92 thoughts on this cloyster veil?

[regal ginkgo]

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[tacit bluff]

not too big a fan of cloyster in this meta in general, but if it could try and do something anywhere, it would be veil ho. I'd be very careful of kyurem though, its incredibly potent into this squad

[low phoenix]

i feel like cloyster and manaphy kinda overlap in the sense that they are water type attackers

[trail whale]

mid ones at that

[low phoenix]

change manaphy to double dance scor like that helloom spl team

[tacit bluff]

yeah cloy is one of those pokemon that sounds awesome on paper but in practice its a bit of a goober

one zama roar and that thing loses all of its potency

ogerpon also seems like an absolute bastard

and the aforementioned kyurem is a problem

[low phoenix]

i cant rate rn as im doing something atm so ill leave it to nocturne

[tacit bluff]

lowk I'm a lil busy too

[low phoenix]

and luna

fair

[tacit bluff]

regardless there are some neat ideas here but aside from the cloyster a lot of these mons are very telegraphed

[trail whale]

Curently team just kinda 6-0d by Tera Raging Bolt and you have very weak lines into some mons like Kyurem, Tera Water Garg, Ice Fang Zama, and Val.

Feels like you'd want the SD Gliscor memester suggested > Iron Treads. Having a 2nd lead is fine but just doesn't cover some of your biggest issues.

As everyone said Cloyster is just not worth it and doesn't fit this meta well, a sweeper that fairs better into Kyurem and Val like Balloon Ghold or SD Scizor is really nice, a pivot like AV Prim/Pecha also works to bring your threats in better.

[tacit bluff]

manaphy is incredibly weak before it gets any setup going and taunt+phasing+encore is all over this tier

tail glow lowk better

[trail whale]

I like Tail Glow Manaphy way more notably

beat me to it..

[tacit bluff]

same braincell

[low phoenix]

i was joking but sure lol

[trail whale]

nu uh!!!

It works

[viral cosmos]

ty all, yeah i overlooked those weaknesses esp to bolt

[low phoenix]

gliscor wo protect sounds so foreign to me for this generation lmmao

i feel like i need it on every set to gurantee poison proc

[viral cosmos]

by double dance you mean sd agil?

[low phoenix]

yea

[narrow crest]

http://pokepast.es/4f7e4385b2708e75

thinking tera ghost on ting, maybe mixed dnite, maybe keldeo over pon

[viral cosmos]

do you have the spread perchance

[low phoenix]

Gliscor @ Toxic Orb
Ability: Poison Heal
Tera Type: Normal
EVs: 244 HP / 28 Atk / 36 Def / 200 Spe
Jolly Nature

• Swords Dance
• Agility
• Earthquake
• Facade

[ashen folio]

https://pokepast.es/59d39e5ad0808833

[viral cosmos]

ty

[viral rover]

https://pokepast.es/dc77adf785c70c76

Okay first balance team that I made
I wanted to use both Meowscarada and Tinkaton on the same team
someone suggested for me to use Walking Wake fsr but I switched to Keldeo on someone else's suggestion

[regal ginkgo]

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[rancid shale]

this is such a nice looking team

nothing about its team comp

just aesthetically pleasing lineup

[viral rover]

but is there anything I can like

improve upon it tho

like yeah they're slaying but I need them to slay the other way as well

[rancid shale]

idk man I haven’t built a team in my life

[low phoenix]

please dont give advice if you're not experienced with the tier

[trail whale]

Neat hazard stack but you absolutely need a Ghost-type. I'd compress Corviknight with Gliscor > Ting-Lu and then fit in a Pecharunt or Sinistcha. Ensures you still have a physically defensive Pokemon
Can even viably do Spikes Meow SD Scor if you want a wincon tbh

[low phoenix]

spikes meow is a real set right

ik its on that one ursa same team

[trail whale]

thats also where I learnt it exisst from

[low phoenix]

i assume you threaten out mons then you are able to set spikes

[viral rover]

So replace both Ting-Lu and Corv with Gliscor?

and then fit a ghost type?

[trail whale]

Gliscor > Ting-Lu and Sinistcha > Corv yeah

[viral rover]

Sinistcha over Pecharunt cuz of Poison overlap or can I run either or

[trail whale]

Glowking is also a bulky Poison pivot so figured youd benefit more from Sinistcha yeah

[viral rover]

What do I even replace on Meow for Spikes tho
or should I just run Spikes Gliscor

[trail whale]

Flower Trick
I said can because you can viably run Spikes Meow + SD Scor or keep your Meow set and run Spikes Scor

[viral rover]

Do I just run standard Sinistcha set btw

[trail whale]

yep

[viral rover]

Hmm should I also run Knock Off for Gliscor or do you think I can run Toxic Spikes over Toxic lol

Might also invest Defense over Sp. Defense?

[low phoenix]

are you running sd or spikes scor

i personally prefer sd scor as i feel that it is much less passive than spikes scor but if youre using spikes scor toxic can work if you have another existing knocker

[viral rover]

Meow has Knock Off

Also maybe I'll run two different versions of the team and see what works

[low phoenix]

yea good idea

[viral rover]

https://pokepast.es/6967179ed5c775e2

Here's the team with normal Meow and Spikes Scor

I just realised I got too many Tera Water mons lol

[low phoenix]

Don’t use toxic spikes

Too many Pecha/gking/iron moth running around to be worth it

[viral rover]

Then Double Toxic or Double Knock Off then

[low phoenix]

Double knock is better than double toxic

[viral rover]

https://pokepast.es/6967179ed5c775e2

btw this is the alt version of the team but with SD setup

I kinda wanna try Pecharunt as well ngl but maybe another team idk

[viral rover]

Maybe replace Glowking?

[lusty forge]

https://pokepast.es/86827d65a6fc1c96
getting into comp for the first time

[regal ginkgo]

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[low phoenix]

What is your goal with this team?

[low phoenix]

Do you want to use the 1st or 2nd team

[trail whale]

looks like a mix of offense and a balance hstack
have to go for one style for most efficiency

[low phoenix]

Bc the 2nd team has no breaker

You can try weavile > meowscarada for a breaker/wincon with real offensive pressure

[lusty forge]

It's to help Gliscor sweep by gettinf rid of its checks and putting up hazards

[low phoenix]

This looks like a mix of offense and balance mons

As Luna said

Sd scor mainly fits on balance teams where it is able to make progress with its longetivity and sd boosted attacks while threatening to remove boots with knock

Skarmory only fits on hazard stack as it is so passive everywhere else

[trail whale]

Cinderace and Booster Bolt on the other hand are rather short term Pokemon that love momentum which just doesnt work with Gliscor and Skarmory, which hardly care about momentum

[lusty forge]

icic
do you have reccs for what could replace gliscor and skarmory?

[viral rover]

oh I wanted to use both Meowscarada and Tinkaton on the same team

[viral rover]

Btw what do you think of Pecharunt over Glowking

[low phoenix]

keep glowking

you have sinistcha already for your ghost

[low phoenix]

iron defense body press zama and defensive lando t over gliscor and skarm

since you have double hazard control you can try expert belt/life orb on darkrai

[low phoenix]

this team has alot of weird choices porygon2 is completely unviable and outclassed by hatteren/cresselia as a trick room setter

half of your mons don't even fit in trick and unless youre going for some kind of semi trick room

wait

your flamigo has wide guard

gholdengo has protect

this isnt vgc/doubles

this channel is for gen9ou

!gen9ousamples

[regal ginkgo]

Gen 9 OU Samples: https://www.smogon.com/forums/threads/3712513/

[fervent inlet]

should i do smth abt like iron valiant, im starting to feel like its not getting much use the way it is in matches

https://pokepast.es/ab7e471f79e24e6e

im pretty low rated rn btw like 1300-1400

[gleaming valve]

https://pokepast.es/2aa98e0c626df75e nd main tries building sv, this feels fun but it could probably be better lol

[low phoenix]

mola can be assault vest

your team doesnt have any way to defensively answer darkrai

and wish support isnt really necessary for your kind of team

[gleaming valve]

Wait a sec

[low phoenix]

3 choice mons is sus af

[ashen folio]

Memester

[low phoenix]

yes

[ashen folio]

I updated the team 1 sec

I switched Incineroar for hattereine and gave flamingo throat chop instead of wide guard

@low phoenix this is for singles

[low phoenix]

its still unviable

protect is unviable on gholdengo

[ashen folio]

Ok a change suggestion

[low phoenix]

maushold isnt good as it blanks to every rocky helmet user on the planet and is very vulnerable to priority which there is no shortage of in ou

and there are still mons who can tank a population bomb and can ko it back like zama kingambit great tusk

[ashen folio]

Yeah it sucks agenst priority

[low phoenix]

and bulky ghosts like gholdengo pecharunt sinistcha

use a sample team

that is my suggestion

[ashen folio]

What's that?

Sample team

[low phoenix]

you look new to teambuilding samples will help you understand the meta and how mons generally work with each other

!gen9ousamples

[regal ginkgo]

Gen 9 OU Samples: https://www.smogon.com/forums/threads/3712513/

[low phoenix]

^

[ashen folio]

Ok

[livid yew]

https://pokepast.es/be97c0e090683311

[narrow crest]

https://pokepast.es/367c88df21564ff3

[regal ginkgo]

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[fervent inlet]

hehe ik its so fun

[low phoenix]

no i mean most teams only run 1 choice mon

2 max

[fervent inlet]

I mean like

ghold has trick

[low phoenix]

ghold has other sets too apart from scarf

[fervent inlet]

Probs doesnt suffice tho

yeah

which do u recommend

lemme look rq

Bulky nasty plot looks enticing

[low phoenix]

ghold can run a bulky nasty plot or hex set

dont use band ogerpon

[fervent inlet]

Ooo ok can i hear your take on that

i mainly just use it for like scuffed gorilla tactics

[low phoenix]

you struggle vs steels

and youre force to predict with superpower

wogerpon is better in general

water cudgel hits more stuff

[fervent inlet]

Interesting

alr

[low phoenix]

and water absorb allows you to switch on water types

[fervent inlet]

ty fam

[pale mortar]

https://pokepast.es/96638903b80de8e6

any changes to this rain team?

[regal ginkgo]

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[livid yew]

why does the bot always notifies people every 6 hours

[cold cosmos]

to rate teams

[sage walrus]

https://pokepast.es/44473dd79bf7d07c

[regal ginkgo]

New [Gen 9] OU RMT @north nimbus, @tacit bluff, @alpine hornet, @low phoenix, @trail whale, @unkempt bough, @empty verge, @echo rampart. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

[tacit bluff]

Lowk this was standard manaphy webs until I saw tork

[alpine hornet]

it’s not every six hours, it’s whenever a link is posted with a 6 hour cooldown

[tacit bluff]

I swear I rated a team like this before

Regardless drop tork and ceruledge for some other two goobers

Webs and sun can work together leavanny brr but not manaphy on sun

[alpine hornet]

alternatively if ur looking for sun webs ausma made a decent one with leavanny

yh

i can grab the paste one sec

https://pokepast.es/f877a3598f9c77fd

[livid yew]

https://pokepast.es/be97c0e090683311 do I need to change ogerpon ?

[trail whale]

I dont like Ghold here, doesnt provide much of anything and empathises on the glaring weakness to Taunt Roaring Moon and lack of speed control. Zamazenta, Scarf Wisp Darkrai, and Booster Val are some Pokemon you can use to good success in that slot.

should also consider SD Pon honestly, provides you with a wincon for the more offensive team after dropping Ghold.

[trail whale]

Rilla just does nothing for rain and AV Treads is a bad Kyurem check. Id recommend using Balloon Gambit for a one time Kyurem answer and Booster Treads to better threaten Pokemon like Raging Bolt and get off spins.

You could do a Zama check + pivot in the Rillaboom slot probably, Pecha & Zapdos notably.

[trail whale]

This seems like an offense team with a weird bulky hazard core slapped on, you'd benefit more from pivots like Landorus-T and Pecharunt that bring your threats in. (Over Ting-Lu and Clefable)

Can give up Pecha for more reliable speed control like Iron Valiant or Iron Moth, highly recommend taking inspiration from the Offense samples

[tidal wasp]

https://pokepast.es/d93ea62c10605610 ?

[runic nebula]

Not a rater nor a SV OU enthusiast but your team has 3 suicide leads which is in general pretty unviable

Also Gliscor sort of sinks all of this he momentum your suicide leads try to generate

[elder knoll]

https://pokepast.es/a6613229d05ecad8
I don't play much offense so I am unsure if this team has enough speed and raw breaking power

[narrow crest]

https://pokepast.es/304e154f8367195c

[regal ginkgo]

New [Gen 9] OU RMT @north nimbus, @tacit bluff, @alpine hornet, @low phoenix, @trail whale, @unkempt bough, @empty verge, @echo rampart. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

[low phoenix]

Not sure about av bolt and eject pack hatt

Raging bolt > calm mind booster

Av or calm mind Hatt can work here

[trail whale]

Honestly smth better into Gambit/Krai like Zama or Val seems ideal there
Can even make Hamu another set with new speed control

Id also def make Ghold Nasty Plot instead of Twave Hex

[low phoenix]

This team feels kinda weird tbh

Two fairy types

Booster val on hazard stack balance

No breakers

Iron valiant > sd gliscor

Lokix > Chesto berry id zama

[narrow crest]

chesto??

havent seen that

is it rest?

[elder knoll]

Resto chesto yeah

[elder knoll]

https://pokepast.es/a6101f9d5290e201

is something like this better?

or is Ghold the better Ghost

it felt weird having both Bolt and Valiant so idk

[woven prairie]

https://pokepast.es/28e7bf5432beb102 I am new to competitive and have only played gen 9 randoms prior to making this team. any feedback is appreciated

[low phoenix]

bolt and valiant are perfectly fine together

they cover different things/roles

[low phoenix]

both are fine but I’d recommend gholdengo so you have a steel

[low phoenix]

resto chesto zamazenta

its a real set

also dont use life orb drag its a bad set

[tidal wasp]

Can I please get review 4 mine?

[low phoenix]

put your pokepaste in the chat and someone will get to it when they have time

[pale mortar]

https://pokepast.es/06e6247c9e00f65f
any changes?

[low phoenix]

If you use a ninetales you absolutely need to commit to Ho veils as a play style as it is dead weight otherwise

[pale mortar]

ic

[low phoenix]

Subtect Kyurem > dragon dance

Moltres might be fine as it can be your fairy resist and pivot to get your other mons in safely but drsgapult is def a momentum sink

Change dragapult to a wall breaker like tail glow manaphy air balloon gholdengo sd waterpon nasty plot darkrai

[cold cosmos]

just use crown doe

instead of tres as your fairy res + pivot

[pale mortar]

no earth type immunities though

and moltres is there to check zamenta, kingambit

[trail whale]

on top of what was alr said, make Tusk Bulk Up Tera Fire for the same reason of not losing momentum

[trail whale]

This has potential as an Offense team but you are in dire need of a Ground immunity and Waterpon check. Cinderace + Hamurott is also quite the anti synergy, since there are times you'll want to preserve Hamurott on this type of team.

There are diff ways you can build up on this team so feel free to revise these issues and come back with an updated version that gives me an idea of where you want to go.

[trail whale]

I dont like the Pult and Vaccum Wave Val here, Id use Tera Ghost Shadow Ball or Encore for better breaking opportunities and drop Dragapilt for Kingambit so you have a reliable backbone vs Specs Pult and Darkrai

[pale mortar]

what do i drop for bulk up?

[trail whale]

CC probably

the ste runs booster speed

[pale mortar]

alr

[low phoenix]

alolan ninetaes appreciates being able to be pivoted in safely so you can still use it in longer games

[pale mortar]

if i swap out ninetales

and run

sticky web arquanid HO

then what should i change?

[bronze bay]

Here is s sun team of mine. what do I need to do to improve it? https://pokepast.es/79cacf68e349fafc

[regal ginkgo]

New [Gen 9] OU RMT @north nimbus, @tacit bluff, @alpine hornet, @low phoenix, @trail whale, @unkempt bough, @empty verge, @echo rampart. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

[tacit bluff]

please playtest teams before posting them here, Gouging fire has been banned for months

[bronze bay]

oop, I did not know that

I did playtest this a while ago, thought I revisit it

here: I swapped it for raging bolt: https://pokepast.es/323052f733fc932b

[tacit bluff]

this is fine, I'd make hatt eject button but this seems p standard, u could lowk afford to make bolt a different item but its whatever

[bronze bay]

what would you suggest for the item for bolt?

[tacit bluff]

lefties, or heavy duty boots ngl

I'm leaning lefties because ur hazard control is p solid

[bronze bay]

k, done

i actually have a variation of the above team that features roaring moon and heatran instead of great tusk and bolt: is it just as viable? https://pokepast.es/839d94d5c85132e4

[low phoenix]

torkoal can be used but personally i would replace torkoal with ninetales as it is faster and can provide support with encore and healing wish

[tacit bluff]

tork still has a place

[low phoenix]

i would change stealth rock on heatran to solar beam to have a coverage option that takes advantage of sun

ik

i just prefer ninetales personally but torkoal can still be used

[dim path]

What we thinking with this OU team fellas

Gotta leave the Garg in that parts not optional I just love the lad

[low phoenix]

use pokepaste please

its easier to read and is the standard for raters

[azure vigil]

sorry to bother yall

was just looking for suggestions for this team

https://pokepast.es/8a0cc9fa8d44e7dc

the guy im building around is bulk up ledge

i like this team for the most part but

i realized roaring moon kinda thrashes this

moon and like glimmora can be annoying too

as well as play rough ogerpon

was looking for suggestions for something to replace

[subtle rain]

Any thoughts on this team?

I'm kinda new to competitive so Im really just using whats fun to me

Oh this isn't double ou rate is it?

[runic nebula]

No it’s not

[low phoenix]

Av hatterene and pivot pon dont really fit for a team built around a Mon that is so Ho centric

[azure vigil]

ic

i changed the pon to tink to deal with moon so idk if it's still as HO as it was but

if so maybe eject hatt could be better?

or custap

[low phoenix]

Tink is not a moon check if it has earthquake

change the hatterene set to calm mind

great tusk > glimmora for your suicide lead

[azure vigil]

isn't balloon tink a check to most moons if it's not

tera ground or taunt

[low phoenix]

tinkaton is not an offense mon

its a balance mon that provides role compression in the form of rocks/knock/status

iron jugulis > iron valiant

wogerpon > kingambit

also id change ceruledge to swords dance with poltergiest

[azure vigil]

well the ledge i know commonly uses SD weak armor but for this i wanted to do

that old bulk up set

from early sv

that was what the team was built around

not as much ho focused

[low phoenix]

early sv is a completely different meta from dlc2

[azure vigil]

i know

i just wanted to bring it out for funsies

[low phoenix]

ceruledge is ONLY good on hyper offense

ok well we rate teams under the assumption that you want to make your team as competitively viable as possible

[azure vigil]

understood

thanks for your hlelp

help*

[low phoenix]

youre welcome

[trail whale]

personal thoughts

Looks like an Offense with all the sweepers and using pivots
Pecha seems really good for your issues, checking Pon & acts as a Tspikes absorber. Id personally suggest it over Waterpon and then your Moon/Kyurem check in the Hatt slot. Tinkaton or Balloon Gambit seem okay

[azure vigil]

Gotcha thanks

[magic walrus]

https://pokepast.es/4f027c9bcf416430 Need help with this dragapult glowking Balance

[pale mortar]

this is the team im running rn but like having 1 knock off user being ogerpon feels kinda low esp how frail it is so like i kinda want 1-2 more knock off user so which changes could i make?

[magic walrus]

do you know how to use pokepaste? cuz use that instead unless something else

[pale mortar]

ight

https://pokepast.es/58fd834269f305dd

not bulky dakrai no more btw

[regal ginkgo]

New [Gen 9] OU RMT @north nimbus, @tacit bluff, @alpine hornet, @low phoenix, @trail whale, @unkempt bough, @empty verge, @echo rampart. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

[umbral ember]

Hiii, could I have some feedback on my team my friend and I built? Thanks! :D
https://pokepast.es/d2ecd091540b44ee

[wraith yoke]

Need a bit of feedback on this team, idk how to build an enam scarf core lmao and stall just beats me every time

https://pokepast.es/14482e62f766b9ed

(ice spinner is on great tusk instead if stealth rock)

[umbral ember]

(It was originally made based on reg H before we realised the reg used changed to reg G)

[tacit bluff]

this is ok but sd iron valiant seems p scary here, you have phasing but Ting lu for instance can't switch in on a close combat and if it carries smth like spirit break it threatens dnite as well, especially with tera ghost, AoA zamazenta can also be quite a threat here as it has coverage for this whole team

I'd consider corv for both of them, you have enough longevity to get up hazards several times

you don't necessarily need defog corv either

iron defence pretty safely walls both

maybe over ogerpon? your fire matchup is already fine

plus it removes one very hazard weak mon

[pale mortar]

ic but ogerpon rn is my knock off user

so losing it gonna be quite hard against stall team

while hazard stacking

[tacit bluff]

you could maybe slot knock on tusk

or darkrai for that matter

granted darkrai is also ur big scary sweeper

[pale mortar]

dakrai got knock off???

[tacit bluff]

its had it for generations

[pale mortar]

might just run expert belt/life orb dakrai and drop plot ig

[tacit bluff]

tbh boots with knock is fine as is

[pale mortar]

ic

what should i drop for knock then

[tacit bluff]

plot ig

[pale mortar]

or i can always drop rapid on tusk and run defog on corv

[tacit bluff]

that too

[tacit bluff]

this looks like its for the wrong format tbh, I assume this is a vgc reg h team which doesn't get rated anymore since the ladder for it doesn't exist, either way this channel is for SV ou rates

[umbral ember]

Oh nono we did build this for vgc reg H (which we do realise isn't rated anymore) but currently are trying to make it work for SV OU as well

which is why I asked here

Hypothetically though,

how would it have fared in reg H?

(also still looking for feedback for this team in SV OU if possible :D)

[tacit bluff]

this seems, fine for reg H? but you'd get advice for that in #1059704283072831499 although because its not the current format I'm not sure if they'd rate it

they might you can try

regardless it doesn't rly work for sv ou

sv ou is singles so a lot of moves and strats here don't really work, for instance heal pulse is actively detrimental and helping hand always fails

Plus all of these mons except for primarina aren't ranked OU

Garchomp and tinkaton have niches but they run different sets

incineroar is uhhh

barely viable

and in singles indeedee female is usually worse than male since worse offensive stats and follow me is pointless gallade also isn't very good

I'd direct you to a sample because taking a vgc team and using it for singles almost never works, the two formats demand very different things

!gen9ousamples

[regal ginkgo]

Gen 9 OU Samples: https://www.smogon.com/forums/threads/3712513/

[umbral ember]

Oh whoopsies I didn't see the DOU in there, didn't realise this was for singles

I'll be taking my team over there then-

Sorry for the mixup oops

Tysm for the advice given though !!

[tacit bluff]

this team is fine for the most part, some weird EV spreads and mon choices tho

scarf enam is fine I prefer calm mind and its usually gonna be on teams that appreciate its late game cleaning potential. There's a decent core here but some choices are odd

Keldeo isn't bad persay but its certainly not amazing and its usually not specs keldeo because that just lets ogerpon in for free which is one of the last mons you want to let in for free, tera stellar blast is also fake on p much anything that isn't a contrary mon. the only two viable ones being enamorus and serperior. It can run a calm mind set but tbh I'd say just drop it for ogerpon if the stall matchup is the problem. Ogerpon can bully a lot of slower teams with taunt or encore and its near perfect stab combo into everything except opposing grasses, of which there aren't many.

Iron crown is ok but the set is a lil odd, since it rarely runs double dance and when it does its usally stored power which latias does better anyway tbh this also just gets mauled by ting lu or moltres who phase you out. AV pivot seems fine here, because you want to keep a kyurem check into an otherwise kyurem weak team barring enam.

you don't rly need two stealth rock users and lowk tera blast on lando is a big commitment especially when its tera blast ice because sure you beat gliscor and dragonite but thats a tera commited and you now get forced out by the steels you used to check. taunt in that slot is good for the stall matchup and it annoys pokemon like glimmora who want to get up rocks as well as ting lu or garganacl.

You can then make tusk ice spinner boots to beat gliscor dnite lando and whatnot

Alternatively you can keep rocks on tusk and swap lando for a breaker like boots darkrai

oh and pechas evs are wonky

[tacit bluff]

anytime

[umbral ember]

[low phoenix]

pokepaste please

this is hard to read

[tacit bluff]

That's an iron valiant spread for sure

[barren ridge]

send the link not a screencap

[candid trench]

Ok

https://pokepast.es/be4042f0b7020cb3

There you go.

[regal ginkgo]

New [Gen 9] OU RMT @north nimbus, @tacit bluff, @alpine hornet, @low phoenix, @trail whale, @unkempt bough, @empty verge, @echo rampart. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

[candid trench]

Are you saying I should replace iron valiant?

[tacit bluff]

no I'm saying your EV spread on valiant is bonkers

this entire team is kinda

confusing

[candid trench]

Yeah. I’m thinking of getting rid of some Pokemon on the team but I don’t know what I should replace them with.

[tacit bluff]

this team is just kinda directionless

it feels like offence but a lot of these choices don't make sense

1. no tera types on anything
2. a lot of these sets are just kinda odd, (stealth rock sd gliscor, max spa and speed zapdos, whatever is going on with valiant)
3. some other stuff like overgrow rillaboom and 4 spa EVs for whatever reason two stealth rock users etc

you have a lead glimmora but you don't have the hyper offence core to capitalise on said lead

[candid trench]

So what Pokemon should I use for my hyper offensive?

[tacit bluff]

drop zapdos drop rillaboom drop gliscor give iron valiant one of its sets on the smogon dex and same with hatterene, then slap on some other sweepers like zamazenta gholdengo kingambit raging bolt darkrai ogerpon wellspring etc

whatever you want really

[candid trench]

Ok thanks

[tacit bluff]

np

[viral cosmos]

https://pokepast.es/b43013e711071283 tried luxray webs, what should i change?

[half nymph]

https://pokepast.es/338d9b06b911b64a
I feel like my team doesnt have any coverage on it, it's pretty much all water and "Who doesnt belong"

and im good with knowing my tera types but i cant figure out what to do for them on this team

[low phoenix]

even if youre using luxray as a gimmick cant you just run raging bolt?

its better in pretty much every way

[tacit bluff]

Luxray is terrible yeah

[pseudo condor]

https://pokepast.es/177a7c2d5ca2802c

Is this good? It feels decent to use.

The help I need the most is the terra types.

[tacit bluff]

3 sash mons with no hazard control is some devious work

[viral cosmos]

yea i could, i wanted to try a medicore speed guts user on webs tho

[tidal wasp]

https://pokepast.es/733cfeba4f684fe5

rate this team? (ignore kings rock ik it doesnt work but idk what item to swap it to)

i had silk scarf before

[tacit bluff]

I would rate urs and also the team above but lowk busy

[half nymph]

can i make a suggestion for Maushold?

why not loaded dice?

[tacit bluff]

loaded dice doesn't do anything for pop bomb

pop bomb always hits 10 times unless one hit misses

it actually makes it worse

because loaded dice causes pop bomb to hit between 4-10 times at random

rather than hitting the guaranteed 10

accuracy willing anyway

[half nymph]

so loaded dice makes it worse?

[tacit bluff]

yep

[azure vigil]

the only other item i think is aight for maus is like

pro pads

[tacit bluff]

scope lens

[azure vigil]

oh shoot

i didn't think of that

[tacit bluff]

it usually runs scope lens

[azure vigil]

i thought it was wide lens

for most common

or do you meant most common alternative

[tacit bluff]

sorry ye wide lens

get em mixed up

[azure vigil]

no problem

[tacit bluff]

its usually boots otherwise actually

[azure vigil]

scope lens sounds kinda sheist tho..

[tacit bluff]

since its used as hazard control

[azure vigil]

oh boots makes sense

don't forget the most diabolical one..

king's rock (Banned, fortunately)

[tidal wasp]

but anything else?

[elder knoll]

This team has major issues with the Mon choices

[tidal wasp]

like for the rest of the team?

[tidal wasp]

btw blaziken is my fav pokemon so prob not removing that

also im new to teambuildin

g

[azure vigil]

@tacit bluff i had something myself i was looking for suggestions for if you're free

if not don't worry

[tacit bluff]

I'll look at it later

[elder knoll]

You shouldn’t be running scarf on pult, spikes Gliscor doesn’t fit the pace of webs, wake also doesn’t go on webs either

especially booster speed wake

you’re using webs to lower the opponents speed

[azure vigil]

np

ill go ahead and post it

https://pokepast.es/26e4bc8147c9a95e

so I wanted to try

that AV dogi set i saw running around for a while

with toxic chain

wanted to pair with mola wish passing

but i think this gets really overwhelmed by offense

valiant cooked this earlier

with tera steel cm

[tidal wasp]

no i have spikes to posin

and hex to sweep ig?

[elder knoll]

Webs is a HO style

it’s normally something:

A web setter/spin blocker/maybe a utility Mon/everything else is a setup Mon

[azure vigil]

mostly dengo for said blocker

[tidal wasp]

k

[azure vigil]

air balloon dengo is the best choice usually for webs

good breaker

denies eq

helps against opposing webs

etc

[elder knoll]

you could also go the 5 Tera ghost mons route

[azure vigil]

[half nymph]

https://pokepast.es/1440b68047673a16 Sandstorm

https://pokepast.es/d43cce322b55ea4a Snow

https://pokepast.es/5b212eef97b8fd85 Sun

https://pokepast.es/338d9b06b911b64a Rain

all of these need some work but i dont know where

[barren ridge]

These teams aren’t made singles or for OU, you have a doubles moveset on some mons like your indeedee on the sand team and the snow one has bundle which is banned

Your sets are very bad and you’re using a lot of mons that are considered unviable. Please take a look at the strategy dex when making movesets and at the viability rankings for whatever format this is when you’re deciding on team choices. I’d also encourage you to use sample teams to learn what works for whatever format it is you’re looking to play

[half nymph]

im sorry for not specifying before but the teams are actually for doubles OU

[tacit bluff]

#1059655497587888158

thats what ur looking for

[candid trench]

https://pokepast.es/7b3e01187607c663

[regal ginkgo]

New [Gen 9] OU RMT @north nimbus, @tacit bluff, @alpine hornet, @low phoenix, @trail whale, @unkempt bough, @empty verge, @echo rampart. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

[candid trench]

I need some opinions on this team I think it’s good but I think that something is wrong with it.

[low phoenix]

hmm

what kind of team are you trying to build?

[magic walrus]

so is this team gonna be any good? as an Balance or BO

[low phoenix]

hmm

change ting lu to pivot wogerpon

corviknight to zapdos

change thunderbolt on dragapult to u-turn

temper flare on great tusk can be stealth rock

[low phoenix]

^

[candid trench]

I want to set up attacks but I feel like when I do my all of my Pokemon besides Kingambit faints right away but I don’t know why.

[low phoenix]

this team looks more like a bulky offense than a hyper offense

though

are you trying to play in a way so that all of your mons setup?

do you want to play aggressively or do you still want a defensive backbone?

[candid trench]

Probably defensive backbone

[low phoenix]

ok

you can switch gholdengo to pecharunt i like having a defensive backbone that reliably checks fightings since you have two offensive dark types

[candid trench]

Ok thanks.

[low phoenix]

i only like low kick on kingambit that have some speed invested at least

change it to iron head

and the bulky ev smogon spread

garganacl to zamazenta

[candid trench]

So change low kick to iron head?

[low phoenix]

yes

[candid trench]

Ok

[low phoenix]

cinderace to lando t

[pseudo condor]

Ppl missed this

[low phoenix]

"3 sash mons with no hazard control is some devious work" from nocturne nugget

but yea this is like very unviable

this team gets goobed by iron valiant firstly

you should only use one focus sash on your suicide lead (hamurott) and you dont even have removal and in the event that your opponent gets hazards up which is very likely its effect is automatically neutered

i dont understand what the ev spreads are for on kommo o and i dont think kommo o is a mon to be used likely by a new player since it is C+ in the VR even though it is not completely unviable

!gen9ousamples

[regal ginkgo]

Gen 9 OU Samples: https://www.smogon.com/forums/threads/3712513/

[covert saffron]

https://pokepast.es/34410f4c55b48b0e
Really like the team so far, but I have massive trouble with waterpon and kyurem, especially if i guess the kyurem set wrong. Is this a skill issue and the team is good, or do i need to add a better answer?

[modern jungle]

https://pokepast.es/918647c835ab1c49 anything i should change

[low phoenix]

You can change clefable to tinkaton for your Kyurem check

[covert saffron]

clefable is so useful into so many things tho

like zama

[low phoenix]

Get a ghost

Since you said you’re having trouble with wogerpon

Sinistcha/pecharunt are good choices

[covert saffron]

the whole point of the team was to part from my pecharunt addiction lmao but alright

[low phoenix]

Sinistcha works too

[covert saffron]

i mainly stole it from an spl replay with these mons but maybe its set differences

[low phoenix]

Looks like a standard ho

I personally recommend knock over play rough on pon and psyshock over recover on gholdengo but looks 👌

[pale mortar]

https://pokepast.es/59f842752342399f

any changes?

[regal ginkgo]

New [Gen 9] OU RMT @north nimbus, @tacit bluff, @alpine hornet, @low phoenix, @trail whale, @unkempt bough, @empty verge, @echo rampart. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

[pale mortar]

team kinda struggles against lokix

[candid trench]

https://pokepast.es/4130d456d17fc484

what should I do? I was thinking about dropping iron moth but I don’t know. The problem I run into is when ranging bolt and Araquanid dies the rest of the team gets sweep.

[silver river]

Haven't lost a single game with these puppies ever since i made the team.
Will probably lose though as the elo crosses the threshold of brainless button mashers and into the realm of 'opponents who can think'

https://pokepast.es/2eec5c1905176f1a

[candid trench]

https://pokepast.es/22652b277e9bcce7

I tried this team out but I have lost every game with it. Can someone help me to fix the problem.

[regal ginkgo]

New [Gen 9] OU RMT @north nimbus, @tacit bluff, @alpine hornet, @low phoenix, @trail whale, @unkempt bough, @empty verge, @echo rampart. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

[low phoenix]

3 grounds kinda sus

[pale mortar]

ye

and dragonite aswell

ice type weakness go crazy

[low phoenix]

Dragonite is good

[pale mortar]

what should i change

[low phoenix]

Clodsire > clefable cuz clodsire and ting Lu kinda overlap as defensive ground types

Great tusk > boots zamazenta

[pale mortar]

alr

wait

who would be my removal

[low phoenix]

None

You are bootspam

[pale mortar]

wait ye im full boots

wait then who be the knock off user then

[low phoenix]

Clefable

[pale mortar]

clefable got knock off??

[low phoenix]

If you want darkrai can be a knocker too

Ye

[pale mortar]

what do i drop for knock

[low phoenix]

Nasty plot

Gholdengo can be your wincon with bulky np

[pale mortar]

alr

also ig zamenta can be wincon with iron body and bpress

[low phoenix]

Yea

Id bp zama is good

Too

I like Resto chesto

[pale mortar]

but then againts other spike team gonna be quite annoying would it be better to run roar

or rest

[low phoenix]

Rest

Dragonite is good enough anti offense

[pale mortar]

alr

wait who would be my iron valiant check if its a melee attack one

[low phoenix]

clefable

gholdengo

[pale mortar]

true

[low phoenix]

just play around valiant guessing the set is annoying but its not the end of the world

[pale mortar]

alr

what set should i run on clefable

[low phoenix]

standard defensive

[candid trench]

Can you help me

[low phoenix]

araquanid is easily the most replacable member as this doesnt look like a webs team

[candid trench]

Who should I replace araquanid with?

[low phoenix]

change it to lando t

defensive lando t

[candid trench]

Ok

Should I replace iron moth?

[pale mortar]

rest or whirlwind on tingliu

[low phoenix]

whirlwind

rest is only good on fat teams

[pale mortar]

alr so tingliu is prolly the only thing which i would not run boots on right?

[low phoenix]

leftovers is good on lu

lu is fat af

[pale mortar]

ye

[low phoenix]

moth is fine

change prim to bulky cm with psychic noise tera ghost for the stall matchup

[candid trench]

Ok

[low phoenix]

zam can be standard idbp

meow can be scarf

change moth to speed booster tho

[candid trench]

Ok

[pale mortar]

holy f bro valiant moonblast dealt half of my clefable hp

[candid trench]

Can someone help me.

[broken shard]

well I guess if you fix those sets the team might be viable

[candid trench]

Ok

[low phoenix]

Well none of these sets are viable

That’s why you’re losing every game lmao

I recommend you scrap the entire team and look at the samples for inspiration when you teambuilding

[candid trench]

Ok

[trail whale]

!gen9ousamples

[regal ginkgo]

Gen 9 OU Samples: https://www.smogon.com/forums/threads/3712513/

[trail whale]

here they are

[trail whale]

what teamstyle are you going for?
Feels like its a balance with Hex Ghold + Hex Pult and to an extent Specs Kyurem, but you dont have pivots that bring Kyurem safely (Pult isnt great at this with shared weaknesses and its speed) and your ground immunities are your Balloon Pokemon, these will really struggle when used on a balance trying to prolounge the game

[white goblet]

https://pokepast.es/24c448464d292878 hyper offense i built but i have no real building experience

I realize I’m super susceptible to hazards lol should I just put a tusk pivot on my team

[elder knoll]

Gliscor is not a HO Mon

[silver river]

I was going for a mix of balance and offence imo
Not being able to switch in kyurem is real, but honestly a lot of times when I'm trying to bring kyurem in it's either after a sack or it's off of a predict, which works.....for now...

[trail whale]

just not so consistent
Id recommend deciding on a style you wanna focus on before expanding on a core/building
Bulky Offense is the style between Balance and Offense if you want to go for that

[silver river]

I honestly want to try a hazard control/bulky offence team with specs kyurem for stall, but i haven't seen a team like that yet

[white goblet]

i swapped for a rocks + spin tusk

[trail whale]

Ting Lu Kyurem Tinkaton Pecha Molt Gambit comes to mind as something
though I might notice more flaws seeing the full team

[low phoenix]

gking is a good mon to pair with kyurem

poison type pivot to check fairies and chilly reception helps boost kyus physical defense in snow

[low phoenix]

tbf gliscor can work on veils/webs teams

[near sleet]

https://pokepast.es/72b500fa18919c6a

its partially made want some advice

[regal ginkgo]

New [Gen 9] OU RMT @north nimbus, @tacit bluff, @alpine hornet, @low phoenix, @trail whale, @unkempt bough, @empty verge, @echo rampart. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

[low phoenix]

Sableye and mew are unviable

Also we don’t rate incomplete teams

[trail whale]

^
5 Pokemon or having a placeholder is fine, but we're here to rate teams not build around a core for you

[near sleet]

i switched spatk evs and nature to spdef

i disagree

ive been given sdvice on what to add

dont need to be rude

[low phoenix]

Explain how

[near sleet]

you may not want to help me build the team

but others might

[elder knoll]

😭 they’re here because they want to help

[near sleet]

also im building around sableye in OU

[low phoenix]

Im not being rude im telling you these mons are unviable

[near sleet]

why is mew not ok?

[near sleet]

that is fine

[low phoenix]

Mid stats in a power crept tier full of dark and ghost types

[near sleet]

this is rude

[trail whale]

you can build in oucord or a comp general channel
just try and only bring finished teams to this channel

[low phoenix]

Doesn’t really do anything exceptionally well

[near sleet]

and this

[near sleet]

im told to post it in here

and not to post anything with advice stuff into the generals

chats

[near sleet]

i just need advice on what to build around sableye in OU

[low phoenix]

We mean for you to build your complete team first and post here not we build it for you

[near sleet]

but im not asking u to build it

im asking what kind of pokemon should i look for

bulky sweepers whatever so on

[low phoenix]

I’ve seen exactly one sableye team and it was a stall team built by an incredibly experienced stalker who knows the meta very well

[near sleet]

i need advice because im still new and would like some guidnece

at least new to ou

[trail whale]

HO but no lead
youre better off with Sash Hamurott over Waterpon and using Bulk Up Boster Tusk so you dont lose momentum

Id also always recommend a ground immunity, even if its adding Balloon on Kingambit.

[low phoenix]

You should remove sableye and mew first then cuz even if we gave you a full team these two mons will just carry your team down

[near sleet]

im building around sableye

[trail whale]

#comp-general-2 <3

[near sleet]

i removed mew and i have sableye and landerous

[near sleet]

i didnt realize ur staff

now that i see a staff memeber is telling me this

i will go i didnt realize

[silver river]

I already have 2 ground weak mons in ghold and gambit, adding gking, another ground weak mon while having no proper switch in to a ground move feels weird

[near sleet]

some people say things and dont know what they are saying but u do alr mb

[trail whale]

no worries, I dont like using power anyway
but youll receive more help in that channel or in the official ou discord

[low phoenix]

Wasn’t talking about your team just a recommendation for if you’re building around specs kyu

[near sleet]

well somtimes people that arent staff just come off like they know stuff because when i posted a link i was told to go here only with pokelink thngs

[silver river]

💀

[near sleet]

but i see ur staff so i beleive u thanks yall

[low phoenix]

I’m a competitive helper

So Ik what I’m talking about

[near sleet]

ill make sure to only post fully built teams in here

[low phoenix]

That’s good

Thank you for being understanding

[near sleet]

mb to you too

can i get yalls opinion on this? it is full 6

https://pokepast.es/5774ecf5a3f498b9

its done mostly well from the few games ive done

the only time it doesnt is when i should be smarter

[trail whale]

so
Flygon
before I dismiss it I want to hear why you think its worth building around

[near sleet]

tbh hes my fav pokemon

and this team me and a friend were chatting on building somthing around flygon

and i can usually get a kill or more depending on the situation

first impression does fairly well but im aware flygon isnt great because its nu

so ou have better stuff in this context

[low phoenix]

Lokix is a better first impression Mon

[trail whale]

Notably seems like a breaker that just thuds into Corviknight/Skarmory, and relies on the extremely inconsistent Outrage to break the flyers and even Tusk.

Flygon is NU and has an RU set though so its probably good in those tiers if you want to use your favourite.

[low phoenix]

But you have volcanion which is good but hard to build around already so I wouldn’t recommend adding him

[near sleet]

ik

vocanion has held its weight

im actually impressed how well an ru is doing in ou

what mons are similar to vocanion but would be better if i replaced him

[low phoenix]

Probably dragapult over wogerpon since there’s overlap between them as water absorbers and you need a speed control

And flygon > rocks tusk

[near sleet]

ok i was told not to add dragapult because with flygon id have 2 4x weak to ice

[low phoenix]

That’s why I’m telling you to remove flygon lol

[near sleet]

ooh

replace flygon with dragapult

and then what should replace volcanion?

this will be a secondary setup i like my flygon one

[low phoenix]

Volcanion is fine

It’s seen a good amount of usage in SPL

Which is like high high high level play

[near sleet]

ok so rn just replace flygon with dragapult and then the team works well

ok cool

[low phoenix]

Yea should be

Make sure to test

And feel free to come back if you need any more help

[near sleet]

yeah thanks

sorry abt how i reacted earlier

[low phoenix]

All g

[near sleet]

took offense too quickly for no reason

[magic walrus]

https://pokepast.es/bff599d535a0bffa BO but defensive (feel like something is off)

[near sleet]

what is BO

[magic walrus]

bulky offence

[near sleet]

ooh ok

[white goblet]

I’ll give that a test ty

I will say waterpon was easily out damaging leads like crazy to get me an advance maybe it was just low ladder play tho

[azure vigil]

https://pokepast.es/9cb5ab2dd0cb98c2

sorry hope this isn't a bad time I was just wondering what could be done to make this a little better into the stall matchup

i made this with a friend it's specs crown we mostly liked the team but the stall matchup mostly hinges on specs crown, don't think we have a good way to kill gliscor is the big thing outside crown

was curious what could be done to make stall a little more forgiving

considered kyurem > bolt but the loss of priority is kinda lame vs like ogerpon

[low phoenix]

lando can be rock tomb -> taunt

you can make a volt turn core with band pult + assault vest crown to continuously pressure switchins

[azure vigil]

gotcha

thanks

[rare orchid]

https://pokepast.es/8c016a42df80aa37 - Bulky Hazard Stack

First serious team I've built. It feels good to me for the most part. It feels like I'm so close to having the team be just right, but I've noticed certain pokemon eat it for breakfast

Tera Poison Sinistcha. CM Booster Raging Bolt, and CM psychic noise Hatterene, are the freshest examples in my head right now.

I also have a hard time beating offense, and I'm not sure if that's the teams fault or my fault tbh. Ogerpon Wellspring and Conerstone have been giving me a hard time. I can beat them, but it takes an arm and a leg, and often I have to sac key pokemon vs them in order to get Iron Valiant in and scare them out.

All suggestions are welcome, please and thank you :D

[regal ginkgo]

New [Gen 9] OU RMT @north nimbus, @tacit bluff, @alpine hornet, @low phoenix, @trail whale, @unkempt bough, @empty verge, @echo rampart. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

[tawny olive]

https://pokepast.es/3af0a40d5d3efd49

[low phoenix]

You can add hamurott or pivot wogerpon as your knocker

Over cm bolt

[azure vigil]

Over which slot?

[low phoenix]

Raging bolt

[azure vigil]

I feel like this team kinda needs balloon gambit otherwise the rmoon matchup gets a good deal harder

Oh bolt

Bolt seems fine to drop just still a little worried about opposing Ogerpon

But I guess gambit + pult makes it bearable

And wisp ace

[low phoenix]

Wogerpon matchup should be solo

Solid

[azure vigil]

Ic

I’ll drop bolt then

If I’m dropping bolt tho I may considering making the pult specs since I’d like to have atleast 1 other special attacker

Crown is good but I think having a second guy is also good

I’ll probably choose Ogerpon on the bolt slot since I already got a dark and water absorb is useful for shutting down flip turn

Probably Tera dragon pult for the super Draco meteor

[low phoenix]

Ic

[azure vigil]

Thanks again

[low phoenix]

Ur welcome

[low phoenix]

Not rly sure what av rillaboom is doing in this team

What is it trying to do?

[low phoenix]

Also dark is one of the better types to spam if you wanna spam types

[azure vigil]

True

And ceaseless edge is always good

But I think Ogerpon is still good here

Can’t really go wrong with slapping on an Ogerpon on a team lol

[low phoenix]

Yup correct

[candid trench]

https://pokepast.es/4b628d598b18ff62
can someone help me out please.

[regal ginkgo]

New [Gen 9] OU RMT @north nimbus, @tacit bluff, @alpine hornet, @low phoenix, @trail whale, @unkempt bough, @empty verge, @echo rampart. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

[trail whale]

Id recommend learning the metagame with sample teams, while all of these Pokemon are viable, none of these sets are, and the synergy is extremely poor.

!gen9ousamples

[regal ginkgo]

Gen 9 OU Samples: https://www.smogon.com/forums/threads/3712513/

[tacit bluff]

horoark is barely viable but yeah

[trail whale]

I was gonna talk about why each set didnt work
saw rocks AV Harc
moving on

[tacit bluff]

There's a lot wrong but it's moreso just a fundamentals thing imo

Like nasty plot horoark without running any special moves is uhhh

A choice

[candid trench]

I realize that i’m gonna fix that soon.

[magic walrus]

Why is there flash cannon on scizor?

[misty basin]

The what

[tacit bluff]

Ye it's a weird team

Weirdly little traffic today btw

[misty basin]

I'd say there's a lot of uh... Curious stuff about this team
Flamethrower on Hisuian Arcanine
Thunderbolt and Iron Defense on Brian
Waterfall on Pelipper (and 8 Attack EVs)
Flash Cannon and Iron Defense on Scizor, as well as Light Metal instead of Technician
A Curse set on the Zoroark

Zoroark has 25 more SpA than Atk and Shadow Ball is really spammable (and Hyper Voice exists)

[tacit bluff]

Horoark is a troll mon imma be so honest

As soon as the element of surprise is gone it's a worse dragapult

[misty basin]

Dragapult spamming Specs Shadow Ball is a Dragapult spamming Specs Shadow Ball

It's a force to be reckoned with

[tacit bluff]

Funnily enough horoark has a stronger specs shadow ball but the issue is that it's horoark

It's way frailer and doesn't have a real ability, and specs is kinda goober

Because hazard damage could reveal that you're a horoark not whatever you're disguised as

You do have trick so it's not the worst thing in the world but I just don't like it

[low phoenix]

horoark is like

barely viable

like D-

yea that speed is like

im sorry to dissapoint but 110 speed is not impressive in gen9ou

same as ogerpon which is like one of the most common mons in ou

[alpine furnace]

https://pokepast.es/d264d46ddf69f9cb this team feels pretty good however I'm unsure if darkrai should be changed. Feels like nasty plot doesn't get much use with how frail it is.

[regal ginkgo]

New [Gen 9] OU RMT @north nimbus, @tacit bluff, @alpine hornet, @low phoenix, @trail whale, @unkempt bough, @empty verge, @echo rampart. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

[low phoenix]

Raging bolt can be hamurott for your knocker

And kingambit Evs can become bulky

But looks very solid to me

[alpine furnace]

https://pokepast.es/84048acffdf57541 i just realized this has now kinda become hazard stack BO

Should I use flip turn over razor shell?

[alpine furnace]

Actually should I run like banded Hamarrot or just boots

[low phoenix]

no

av hamurott is good

hamurott pressures most opponents enough already

[alpine furnace]

Av > boots

[heady comet]

Anyone got a standard rain team they can link me to use as a backbone fior a new take on the stard build?

[low phoenix]

pelipper barraskewda overqwil raging bolt iron treads and other offensive mon is a good start

also #comp-general

[clever rover]

https://pokepast.es/531b92beeab76fb8

was originally doing ddance Kyurem but Dragonite took the spotlight, any help?

[regal ginkgo]

New [Gen 9] OU RMT @north nimbus, @tacit bluff, @alpine hornet, @low phoenix, @trail whale, @unkempt bough, @empty verge, @echo rampart. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

[trail whale]

No Ghost-type really sucks for webs, Id suggest Ghold > Gambit and then Iron Moth should probably be a Pokemon more anti-Moltres, right now verything hates it especially if its Roar. Maybe Raging Bolt, Sedge Zama, or just making Dnite Sedge instead

[viral cosmos]

https://pokepast.es/7fd5a0d5d6c5a27c wanted to try ironpress coballion in tandem with zama, but the team feels really weird to pilot, thoughts/changes?

[low phoenix]

cobalion overlaps with zama thats why it feels weird

something like sd wogerpon or roaring moon can work over cobalion to give some more reliable immediate power

if you have trouble with pech kingambit can be clear amulet

hydriegon can maybe be cm iron crown as i feel like this team doesnt have the best matchup vs fairies feel free to test though

also change snowscape on ninetales to something like moonblast snowscape is redundant on atales

[clever rover]

Hmmmm… sure, I’ll go something like tbolt val ig, seems like good bait.

[viral cosmos]

yeah that could be why, id build w cob on its own but why bother when you have zama

[low phoenix]

cobalion prob has a D tier niche buried under it but zama and great tusk are the better fighting types overall

[low phoenix]

use pokepaste please

its easier to rea

d