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tacit bluff Jan 9, 2025, 6:05 AM

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and p much any physical attacker that gets knocked

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regardless this is a stall core with hamurott and cinderace for some reason so I'd say get rid of those two lol

neon pine Jan 9, 2025, 6:06 AM

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How much is sticky barb? 1/12? 1/8?

tacit bluff Jan 9, 2025, 6:06 AM

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1/8

timid mango Jan 9, 2025, 6:27 AM

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https://pokepast.es/a7a1d88f9a1e4946 So is this an 8/10?

brisk zenith Jan 9, 2025, 6:38 AM

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https://pokepast.es/da9eff600d22fc9d

Would be the first time ever I try out Gen 9 OU (I started and stayed with NatDex Ubers). How does it look? (Goal is Bulky offense with Darkrai functioning as a fast special wallbreaker for the team,Molt to punish potential U-Turns and will-O-Wisp for stuff like Kingambit. Zama as late game sweeper,Tusk as hazard clearer and potential midgame setup. And Ogerpon is just whenever she's needed)

timid mango Jan 9, 2025, 6:39 AM

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looks pretty good but id say ask someone whos better than me

brisk zenith Jan 9, 2025, 6:40 AM

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Hmm. Oh,I'd also wanna ask what I should shore up. Mainly tera

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Poison would be interesting on Darkrai,since Fighting/Fairy resistance,and he's naturally good against Psychic in the first place

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Actually,now that I think about it...that also covers his bug weakness

timid mango Jan 9, 2025, 7:34 AM

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poison is a good tera type

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boosts sludge bomb and shores his weaknesses

tacit bluff Jan 9, 2025, 8:25 AM

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poison is the standard yeah

tawny olive Jan 9, 2025, 10:33 AM

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https://pokepast.es/4c1feee1f101fe2c

Is this a good team? If you have any thoughts about it while rating it please let me know

regal ginkgoBOT Jan 9, 2025, 10:33 AM

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New [Gen 9] OU RMT @north nimbus, @unkempt bough, @empty verge, @echo rampart. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

timid mango Jan 9, 2025, 11:57 AM

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nocturne i haver a question

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nvm nvm

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was gonna ask if i rreplace raging bolt for roaring moon

silver locust Jan 9, 2025, 2:55 PM

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https://pokepast.es/6e989e0f16fcf4d2 i need help buildiing my team, i lose every game with this, the oponent always has the right matchup. etc etc

misty basin Jan 9, 2025, 3:03 PM

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This piece crap of a team got me to 1200 somehow
https://pokepast.es/8346e119a80ff685

misty basin Jan 9, 2025, 3:05 PM

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silver locust https://pokepast.es/6e989e0f16fcf4d2 i need help buildiing my team, i lose every...

What play style do you like the most
~~stall~~, defensive, balance, bulky offence, hyper offence...

quick fractal Jan 9, 2025, 3:05 PM

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someone can help me to make an team please

misty basin Jan 9, 2025, 3:05 PM

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quick fractal someone can help me to make an team please

I ask the same thing as I did to Panch
What play style do you like

silver locust Jan 9, 2025, 3:06 PM

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misty basin What play style do you like the most ~~stall~~, defensive, balance, bulky offenc...

balanced or hyper offence

quick fractal Jan 9, 2025, 3:06 PM

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misty basin I ask the same thing as I did to Panch What play style do you like

can i dm u? bcz many chat i want sent pics of my team

misty basin Jan 9, 2025, 3:06 PM

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silver locust balanced or hyper offence

For hyper offence you could use the likes of Meowscarada, Cinderace, Darkrai, Dragapult etc

misty basin Jan 9, 2025, 3:07 PM

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quick fractal can i dm u? bcz many chat i want sent pics of my team

Use pokepast.es

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And paste your team there

quick fractal Jan 9, 2025, 3:07 PM

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misty basin Use pokepast.es

oh oki wait

misty basin Jan 9, 2025, 3:08 PM

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silver locust balanced or hyper offence

And if you're REALLY good you could try the challenge of using Scizor on OU

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I mean on a Fairy dominated meta game maybe Scizor would be a good anti meta pick

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DPPs premiere gunslinger is your best pick in case the rocks somehow dominate

quick fractal Jan 9, 2025, 3:12 PM

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misty basin Use pokepast.es

i play Flutter Mane with boosterenergy / goldengo i want his in my team and chien-pao

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but idk with but i can do all team if u want complete this team please

misty basin Jan 9, 2025, 3:12 PM

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quick fractal i play Flutter Mane with boosterenergy / goldengo i want his in my team and chie...

Sir this is the OU rates

quick fractal Jan 9, 2025, 3:13 PM

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misty basin Sir this is the OU rates

(im not sir) and wre i can someone help me ?

misty basin Jan 9, 2025, 3:15 PM

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quick fractal (im not sir) and wre i can someone help me ?

#1059901370477576272 is what you're looking for

quick fractal Jan 9, 2025, 3:15 PM

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oh :c oki sorry

long prism Jan 9, 2025, 4:28 PM

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https://pokepast.es/04ce04cdf1e3edc6

broken shard Jan 9, 2025, 5:16 PM

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unviable unfortunately

empty verge Jan 9, 2025, 5:50 PM

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long prism https://pokepast.es/04ce04cdf1e3edc6

Give the viability rankings and samples a look so you know what mons function in the ou tier

regal ginkgoBOT Jan 9, 2025, 5:50 PM

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OU (Gen 9)

Overview

For more info, see this format's Dex page.

tacit bluff Jan 9, 2025, 7:41 PM

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yeah all these mons are awful in ou

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unfort

broken shard Jan 9, 2025, 8:12 PM

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don't let that stop you from having fun tho

elder knoll Jan 9, 2025, 10:00 PM

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https://pokepast.es/25924e0e6bef6f8f

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🫡

regal ginkgoBOT Jan 9, 2025, 10:00 PM

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New [Gen 9] OU RMT @north nimbus, @unkempt bough, @empty verge, @echo rampart. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

elder knoll Jan 9, 2025, 10:00 PM

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I tried to create a balance team

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but I kinda get bulldozed over by CM Primirina

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and the Dhengo hazard stack match up can get a little spooky

north anvil Jan 10, 2025, 12:23 AM

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https://pokepast.es/fcd21019ed59baf0
update: https://pokepast.es/48d7de3147974bc3 better pivots but pecharunt is still a bit meh

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was trying to build a team around first impression slither wing, ended up with a pivot+status team

rancid shale Jan 10, 2025, 2:27 AM

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why are 50% of the teams here posted by 1% of the discord

fluid nimbus Jan 10, 2025, 5:13 AM

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north anvil was trying to build a team around first impression slither wing, ended up with a...

a slither wing team that ive made which did really well for him focused around using webs tbh

north anvil Jan 10, 2025, 5:14 AM

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fluid nimbus a slither wing team that ive made which did really well for him focused around u...

can share?

fluid nimbus Jan 10, 2025, 5:14 AM

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yea

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https://pokepast.es/1aa9a1484cd965c4 @north anvil

north anvil Jan 10, 2025, 5:15 AM

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fluid nimbus https://pokepast.es/1aa9a1484cd965c4 <@955026862323683378>

thanks, lemme try

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any bad matchups i should be careful of?

fluid nimbus Jan 10, 2025, 5:15 AM

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and by well i mean teams that get me to 1500-1600 consistently after making a new account to test team out ^

fluid nimbus Jan 10, 2025, 5:16 AM

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north anvil any bad matchups i should be careful of?

id say be wary of stalls and some trick room teams tbh

north anvil Jan 10, 2025, 5:18 AM

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okie, i like playing singles but stall really grinds on my gears tbh

fluid nimbus Jan 10, 2025, 5:19 AM

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yea normally they arent too bad to play depending on the team you have but usually if my first 5-10 turns are bad against stalls

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i just forfeit out tbh

tacit bluff Jan 10, 2025, 5:28 AM

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Ngl idk why meowscarada is on that team

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But even so the stall matchup can be helped by just running some of the various anti stall techs in the tier

hot dome Jan 10, 2025, 5:30 AM

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fluid nimbus a slither wing team that ive made which did really well for him focused around u...

please dont provide teams/give advice if you are not experienced with the tier

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we appreciate you trying to help out, but this team is flawed in many ways

fluid nimbus Jan 10, 2025, 5:30 AM

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tacit bluff But even so the stall matchup can be helped by just running some of the various ...

i made it a while back, it can be gambit, but i used meow as knock off

hot dome Jan 10, 2025, 5:31 AM

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rancid shale why are 50% of the teams here posted by 1% of the discord

most of the discord is either experienced enough to not want advice, not active in the first place, or play other tiers

tacit bluff Jan 10, 2025, 5:34 AM

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hot dome we appreciate you trying to help out, but this team is flawed in many ways

Yeahhh

fluid nimbus Jan 10, 2025, 5:35 AM

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this is my current top performing team https://pokepast.es/52ada92076f2c0f5

tacit bluff Jan 10, 2025, 5:35 AM

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It's not exerting enough firepower for a webs team

fluid nimbus Jan 10, 2025, 5:35 AM

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is it flawed in many ways too?

tacit bluff Jan 10, 2025, 5:35 AM

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BO I assume?

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It's not bad

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Scizor is kinda odd but everything else is pretty standard

fluid nimbus Jan 10, 2025, 5:36 AM

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tacit bluff BO I assume?

yea leaning towards offense tbh

tacit bluff Jan 10, 2025, 5:36 AM

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I'd make Lando the rocker and tusk more offensive tbh but that's just me

fluid nimbus Jan 10, 2025, 5:37 AM

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actually i built the team around scarf lando lol

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really like the guy

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the speed controller for the team

tacit bluff Jan 10, 2025, 5:37 AM

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I don't fw scarf Lando this gen but that's mostly personal preference

fluid nimbus Jan 10, 2025, 5:38 AM

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as for scizor is the knock off for the team + he has been really good against some of the tiers meta picks

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in this team was either scizor or roaring moon as knock off id say

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but roaring doesnt fit too well in this comp

hot dome Jan 10, 2025, 5:40 AM

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Pecharunt on a team that already has two pivots + no fighting weak pokemon isn’t the best pick

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Not really sure why you need a knock off user for this team when you aren’t stacking hazards excepts rocks

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Wogerpon mu is really bad

fluid nimbus Jan 10, 2025, 5:41 AM

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hot dome Wogerpon mu is really bad

pecha counters ogerpon tho

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you dont like parting shot + intimidate 😮

hot dome Jan 10, 2025, 5:42 AM

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+2 252 Atk Wellspring Mask Tera Water Ogerpon-Wellspring-Tera Ivy Cudgel vs. 252 HP / 4 Def Pecharunt: 328-386 (86.3 - 101.5%) -- 12.5% chance to OHKO

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Your woger mu is one unlucky crit/any amount of chip away from falling over

fluid nimbus Jan 10, 2025, 5:43 AM

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could be but then we check with thunder clap / or scarf u-turn no?

hot dome Jan 10, 2025, 5:43 AM

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Also if you go for the recover you risk losing to encore

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Pecha is most definitely not a woger counter

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A shaky check, maybe, but it’s only a few teammates away from crushing Pecha

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Especially since your method of handling all physical threats seems to be Pecha + Lando

fluid nimbus Jan 10, 2025, 5:44 AM

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when i built the team with scarf lando, the two mons i found to be great partners were prima and pecha lol

hot dome Jan 10, 2025, 5:45 AM

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Good for you ig, doesn’t change the fact that this team has flaws

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O yeah your Darkrai mu is atrocious as well

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Knock less tusk is iffy and opens you up to struggling to spin against opposing hstack teams with their ghost/helmet users

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And when the rest of your team is live or die by those hazards getting removed it can become an issue quick

fluid nimbus Jan 10, 2025, 5:47 AM

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hot dome O yeah your Darkrai mu is atrocious as well

primarina, bulletpunch, and uturn lando

hot dome Jan 10, 2025, 5:47 AM

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None of which can switch in

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All of which get worn down by hazards incredibly quickly

fluid nimbus Jan 10, 2025, 5:48 AM

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i do agree with the knock off

hot dome Jan 10, 2025, 5:48 AM

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Scizor really doesn’t do a lot for this team here

fluid nimbus Jan 10, 2025, 5:48 AM

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so youre saying -scizor, -pecha +gholdengo

hot dome Jan 10, 2025, 5:48 AM

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Since you’re lo bp you get worn down real fast and can probably only switch into Kyurem 2-3 times before you take too much chip

hot dome Jan 10, 2025, 5:49 AM

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fluid nimbus so youre saying -scizor, -pecha +gholdengo

Definitely take out Scizor, I don’t know what to do with your squad of Lando tusk Pecha Primarina tho

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Actually I think Scizor can work as a band breaker instead

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Yeah banded solves a few issues here, probably swap out Lando for something like Zamazenta/Pult and you’re looking a lot better

fluid nimbus Jan 10, 2025, 5:56 AM

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hot dome Yeah banded solves a few issues here, probably swap out Lando for something like...

all out attacker boots zama yea?

hot dome Jan 10, 2025, 5:56 AM

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Idbp isn’t bad either

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Gives you an alternative win con that can capitalize off of Scizor weakening phys def checks

fluid nimbus Jan 10, 2025, 5:59 AM

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alright ill give it a try, and probably roar as 4th move right

hot dome Jan 10, 2025, 5:59 AM

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Yeah but it’s pretty flexible so feel free to mess around with it

fluid nimbus Jan 10, 2025, 6:02 AM

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hot dome Yeah but it’s pretty flexible so feel free to mess around with it

alright done, the team is all grounded now tho

hot dome Jan 10, 2025, 6:03 AM

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If you lose to bu tusk with Pecha + Primarina + Zamazenta roar that’s on you ngl

fluid nimbus Jan 10, 2025, 6:04 AM

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meant more for like hazards and such

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but could go hdb on tusk instead of helm

fluid nimbus Jan 10, 2025, 6:05 AM

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hot dome If you lose to bu tusk with Pecha + Primarina + Zamazenta roar that’s on you ngl

been a while since i seen bu tusk

hot dome Jan 10, 2025, 6:05 AM

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It’s still kicking

hot dome Jan 10, 2025, 6:05 AM

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fluid nimbus meant more for like hazards and such

Hstack teams kinda meh rn and hamurott doesn’t have the best mu into Zama

fluid nimbus Jan 10, 2025, 6:06 AM

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hot dome Hstack teams kinda meh rn and hamurott doesn’t have the best mu into Zama

yea i sadly noticed that

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pinkacross told me its BO, Offense, HO the top 3 atm

hot dome Jan 10, 2025, 6:08 AM

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Eh ho kinda fishy

tacit bluff Jan 10, 2025, 7:32 AM

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hot dome Pecha is most definitely not a woger counter

Depends on the spread but this one isn't yeah

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Max physical bulk pecha can pretty reliably check Ogerpon

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Slow pivot set basically

hot dome Jan 10, 2025, 7:32 AM

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tacit bluff Depends on the spread but this one isn't yeah

No matter what spread you will never be a woger counter

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A check, sure

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But not a counter

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And especially for woger, you need more than one check

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Unless ig Tera grass pecha

tacit bluff Jan 10, 2025, 7:33 AM

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I agree with that but my point was pecha can be a reasonably effective waterpon check with enough defensive investment

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Since malignant chain is not something pon wants to take

hot dome Jan 10, 2025, 7:34 AM

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And I said counter

tacit bluff Jan 10, 2025, 7:34 AM

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Yeah countering it is a different story

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Vileplume time clearly

hot dome Jan 10, 2025, 7:34 AM

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So why are you arguing

tacit bluff Jan 10, 2025, 7:34 AM

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Ah mb

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Thought they said wogerpon check not counter

timid mango Jan 10, 2025, 9:59 AM

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im gonna go insane

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whoever uses sucker punch darkrai is insane

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https://pokepast.es/415fe7b66828445c also rmt from 1/10

regal ginkgoBOT Jan 10, 2025, 10:00 AM

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New [Gen 9] OU RMT @north nimbus, @unkempt bough, @empty verge, @echo rampart. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

low phoenix Jan 10, 2025, 11:02 AM

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timid mango whoever uses sucker punch darkrai is insane

I’m guessing it’s the reun darkspam team

timid mango Jan 10, 2025, 12:16 PM

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yea

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when did it come tho

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i just faced it and lost bc i was surprised bc of sucker punch

timid mango Jan 10, 2025, 12:55 PM

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https://pokepast.es/df7b6adaa01ed8f0 changed team a bit

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i used an extension called teambuilding analytics

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yall like it?

timid mango Jan 10, 2025, 1:36 PM

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replace subsitute on moth with psychic

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and dazzling gleam to make it rain

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tera fairy to steel

misty basin Jan 10, 2025, 9:51 PM

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tera grass iron moth catches a lot of the low ladder of guard

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"finally i've switched in my [ground type] time to click earthquake and stop this madness"
Iron Moth Terastalized!
Garchomp used Earthquake!
It's not very effective...

hot dome Jan 11, 2025, 12:44 AM

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timid mango https://pokepast.es/df7b6adaa01ed8f0 changed team a bit

good for the most part but you're severely lacking in physical attackers and have way too many special attackers, swap tusk to bulk up, swap ghold to bulky kingambit, and drop vaccum wave on valiant for encore

timid mango Jan 11, 2025, 3:13 AM

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Wont i need ghold to keep my 3 spikes?

timid mango Jan 11, 2025, 3:15 AM

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misty basin tera grass iron moth catches a lot of the low ladder of guard

iron moth clicked dazzling gleam

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its super effectove

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the opposing garchomp fainted

runic nebula Jan 11, 2025, 3:24 AM

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You’re running HO so you can keep your offensive pressure up with spikes if you can position yourself correct to prevent your opponent to spin/defog

timid mango Jan 11, 2025, 4:00 AM

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so its this

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https://pokepast.es/8c97a16e727af2a9

regal ginkgoBOT Jan 11, 2025, 4:00 AM

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New [Gen 9] OU RMT @north nimbus, @unkempt bough, @empty verge, @echo rampart. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

timid mango Jan 11, 2025, 4:00 AM

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but i cant rlly stop rapid spin

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so wont hamurott be useless if those hazards are gonna get court changed by boots max speed cinder?

runic nebula Jan 11, 2025, 4:12 AM

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timid mango but i cant rlly stop rapid spin

There’s 4 mons with tera ghost

timid mango Jan 11, 2025, 4:13 AM

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runic nebula There’s 4 mons with tera ghost

i forgot abt that

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https://pokepast.es/8c97a16e727af2a9 so no changes to my team?

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keep it like this and try to hiy 1.5k

timid mango Jan 11, 2025, 4:36 AM

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runic nebula There’s 4 mons with tera ghost

defog?

hot dome Jan 11, 2025, 4:36 AM

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this team is not live or die by hazards

timid mango Jan 11, 2025, 4:36 AM

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boots and tusk and corv and cinder are popular

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aand cinder would give me a huge disadvantage

hot dome Jan 11, 2025, 4:36 AM

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we know what the metagame looks like

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cinderace would give you a huge advantage because you have moth and bolt to exploit it

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hazards is not the end all be all for this team

timid mango Jan 11, 2025, 4:37 AM

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ik

hot dome Jan 11, 2025, 4:37 AM

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they are nice, but you are fine without them

timid mango Jan 11, 2025, 4:37 AM

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so i can remove them

hot dome Jan 11, 2025, 4:37 AM

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so stop worrying abot hazards with 4 tera ghost mons

timid mango Jan 11, 2025, 4:37 AM

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for dragonite

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i can remove hamurott or keep him

hot dome Jan 11, 2025, 4:37 AM

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you dont have dnite

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look i've given you the changes

timid mango Jan 11, 2025, 4:37 AM

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i mean like replace hamurott with maybe dnite to beat tusk

hot dome Jan 11, 2025, 4:37 AM

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take them or leave them

timid mango Jan 11, 2025, 4:37 AM

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alr

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https://pokepast.es/8c97a16e727af2a9 so this

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no changes

barren ridge Jan 11, 2025, 4:41 AM

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hold on faya

hot dome Jan 11, 2025, 4:41 AM

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@timid mango please stop posting the same team with minor changes

timid mango Jan 11, 2025, 4:41 AM

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alr

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mb

barren ridge Jan 11, 2025, 4:43 AM

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timid mango https://pokepast.es/8c97a16e727af2a9 so this

@timid mango You have been posting the same 2-3 teams the past few days. When people post here we expect them to put some work into creating a team, playtesting it initially, integrate feedback, and then taking the time to playtest it again with changes. You come back here frequently asking for advice, sometimes don't implement it, then come back the next day with the same thing even though you ignored previous advice.

Also please read the rules. We do not rate existing sample teams. #comp-general message Smashing two sample teams together and posting it here isn't allowed. You are taking up our raters time which could instead be used to rate teams for people who are going to take our raters advice into consideration and playtest what they've made.

timid mango Jan 11, 2025, 4:43 AM

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alr

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ill stop

barren ridge Jan 11, 2025, 4:45 AM

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If you post a team in the future we ask that you try to take the time to learn, put some thought into it instead of modifying a sample, play test what you've made, and really take the advice our raters provide into consideration instead of brushing them off

cold cosmos Jan 11, 2025, 9:03 AM

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https://pokepast.es/950fd470cf7187a8

low phoenix Jan 11, 2025, 9:27 AM

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cold cosmos https://pokepast.es/950fd470cf7187a8

Replace roaring moon with great tusk/raging bolt and you got a standard bulky offense

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Also change valiant to its standard cm set

cold cosmos Jan 11, 2025, 9:30 AM

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low phoenix Replace roaring moon with great tusk/raging bolt and you got a standard bulky of...

no

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i want to use rm

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i went psyshock ival for a better glowking and moth mu

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aura sphere for the gambit

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and i wanna use rm

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id considered bolt but rm is really fun

low phoenix Jan 11, 2025, 9:51 AM

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Roaring moon is mostly a hyper offense mon

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It’s best used as a sweeper to set up and overwhelm

cold cosmos Jan 11, 2025, 10:10 AM

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low phoenix Roaring moon is mostly a hyper offense mon

everyday theres a prav33n video using roaring moon on literally BO

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like everyday

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im not even kidding

low phoenix Jan 11, 2025, 10:12 AM

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Who is prav33n

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If he is able to use moon bulky offense good for him

cold cosmos Jan 11, 2025, 10:14 AM

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low phoenix Who is prav33n

top 100/50 player

cold cosmos Jan 11, 2025, 10:14 AM

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low phoenix If he is able to use moon bulky offense good for him

so its usable?

ocean bane Jan 11, 2025, 11:48 AM

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cold cosmos https://pokepast.es/950fd470cf7187a8

I dont totally like the gking there tbh, feel like dengo would be better

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Better mu vs zama and valiant, helps to keep rocks up and fairy resist too

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It can spam twave too

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I also dont like non sball valiant, not being able to hit dengo looks awful even if u have rmoon and gambit on the team

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Psyshock is a cool thing tho

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For moth/gking as u said and even for some clod

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For glimm too

misty basin Jan 11, 2025, 11:52 AM

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Is hazard less hyper offence any good

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I got a team but I'm afraid I'm just gonna get roasted here

cold cosmos Jan 11, 2025, 12:00 PM

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ocean bane Better mu vs zama and valiant, helps to keep rocks up and fairy resist too

i mean.. gking does 3/4 out of those things
also has twave

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also provides pivot

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i think a team like this appreciates pivots

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just what i think though

ocean bane Jan 11, 2025, 12:19 PM

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cold cosmos i think a team like this appreciates pivots

Ye pivots are always good, but i was especially thinking since clicking crunch or knock on the switch is quite free many times

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So u dont let lando get chipped that easily

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But the thing is just testing it ig, if it works that way is fine

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Another i had not in mind was the tspikes mu, without gking it could be a bit tough so maybe gking better in some scenarios

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And w spamming twave easily i meant on things gking cant do it that easily such as oger or gambit

cold cosmos Jan 11, 2025, 12:49 PM

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yeah...

hot dome Jan 11, 2025, 6:08 PM

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misty basin Is hazard less hyper offence any good

I mean screens ho exists

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But 6 offensive threats no setter kinda mid

misty basin Jan 11, 2025, 6:08 PM

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so i could go for dual screens with a prankster mon?

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what if i get court changed tho
court change the court change?

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and hope that i lose the speed tie

hot dome Jan 11, 2025, 6:09 PM

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cold cosmos everyday theres a prav33n video using roaring moon on literally BO

At this point it’s basically a hyper offense team + the majority of your mons literally cannot switch in more than once without being severely crippled

hot dome Jan 11, 2025, 6:09 PM

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misty basin what if i get court changed tho court change the court change?

Bring mons that can threaten cinderace

misty basin Jan 11, 2025, 6:09 PM

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hot dome Bring mons that can threaten cinderace

so fast super effective hitters?

hot dome Jan 11, 2025, 6:10 PM

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misty basin so i could go for dual screens with a prankster mon?

Prankster kinda ass either use Deoxys speed or atales

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This isn’t a team building channel tho if you want help with that go to #comp-general

misty basin Jan 11, 2025, 6:10 PM

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hot dome Bring mons that can threaten cinderace

well wogerpon is slower than ace so any ideas?

hot dome Jan 11, 2025, 6:12 PM

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hot dome At this point it’s basically a hyper offense team + the majority of your mons li...

Yeah this team is literally just hyper offense with Gking instead of another sweeper and a pivot lando set instead of a lead one

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Also why Tera blast fairy Rmoon? Most dragons are chunked heavily by knock/acro and don’t want to switch in the first place, same with dark types (except ting lu but even then not a lot of people are using ting lu to counter moon), and zamazenta is damaged more by acro than Tera blast fairy anyways

misty basin Jan 11, 2025, 6:15 PM

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wait wait wait Ninetales-Alola in OU?

hot dome Jan 11, 2025, 6:16 PM

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Not the channel for this

broken silo Jan 11, 2025, 6:36 PM

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https://pokepast.es/76013a7418f99e8d

regal ginkgoBOT Jan 11, 2025, 6:36 PM

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New [Gen 9] OU RMT @north nimbus, @unkempt bough, @empty verge, @echo rampart. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

tacit bluff Jan 11, 2025, 6:41 PM

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waow its the zovafire

anyway this looks pretty aight, I tend to prefer more offensive spreads/items on stuff like lando and kyurem but its fine

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thats more to do with my playstyle then anything else

broken silo Jan 11, 2025, 6:43 PM

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ok so im the problem lmfao

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hi

tacit bluff Jan 11, 2025, 6:45 PM

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broken silo ok so im the problem lmfao

nah not rly its still good

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just my personal preference leans to more offensive sets

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I usually try to slot spikes onto these teams to rack up more hazard chip, usually through a mon like hamurott

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that could be an idea

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Not strictly necessary tho

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You could also wait for an actual rater tho

fluid nimbus Jan 12, 2025, 12:27 AM

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https://pokepast.es/b2ccc99880c97751

cold cosmos Jan 12, 2025, 4:57 AM

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hot dome At this point it’s basically a hyper offense team + the majority of your mons li...

i see. what do i change in my team though

eager plaza Jan 12, 2025, 5:42 AM

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https://pokepast.es/1a12c75cbde9a4cc
this pecharunt/samurott HO/Offense/BO
ik its kinda similar to the hellom sample team but i think this one is easier to play and more set-up oriented
this is kinda weak to ceruledge and walking wake or just sun teams

regal ginkgoBOT Jan 12, 2025, 5:42 AM

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New [Gen 9] OU RMT @north nimbus, @unkempt bough, @empty verge, @echo rampart. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

hot dome Jan 12, 2025, 6:22 AM

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eager plaza https://pokepast.es/1a12c75cbde9a4cc this pecharunt/samurott HO/Offense/BO ik i...

you shouldnt build a team that's split between three different classifications lol

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dedicate fully to one style

eager plaza Jan 12, 2025, 6:23 AM

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hot dome you shouldnt build a team that's split between three different classifications l...

I didnt know which one it was so it was either ho o or bo lol

hot dome Jan 12, 2025, 6:23 AM

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in this case, it looks to be the hyper offense style, so you should drop pecharunt

hot dome Jan 12, 2025, 6:23 AM

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eager plaza I didnt know which one it was so it was either ho o or bo lol

nah its defo ho once you got a sash lead mon its ho

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honestlyh this is incredibly similar to the vert team with minor changes (not a jab at you just a funny coincidence) so it might just be best if you pivot towards that

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if you dont want to pivot towards that, you should at least slot on iron moth for a tspikes absorber, and then maybe pick up dragonite as your last sweeper for some defensive utility?

eager plaza Jan 12, 2025, 6:37 AM

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hot dome if you dont want to pivot towards that, you should at least slot on iron moth fo...

Pecha is tspikes absorher or no with air balloon

hot dome Jan 12, 2025, 6:47 AM

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eager plaza Pecha is tspikes absorher or no with air balloon

pecha isnt good on hyper offense tho

eager plaza Jan 12, 2025, 7:01 AM

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hot dome pecha isnt good on hyper offense tho

so should I change samu set?

hot dome Jan 12, 2025, 7:01 AM

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If you want to pivot to Bo you should also drop moon

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And atp you’re basically running hellom

eager plaza Jan 12, 2025, 7:01 AM

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moon to dragonite?

hot dome Jan 12, 2025, 7:02 AM

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If you want to keep this hyper offense, drop pecha for moth drop tusk for dnite

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If you want to run bulky offense, run hellom

tawny olive Jan 12, 2025, 12:23 PM

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https://pokepast.es/df02b03ee423d121
It's a hazard stack team I'm working on
I've gotten a few games in with it and wondering where it can use some improvements

regal ginkgoBOT Jan 12, 2025, 12:23 PM

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New [Gen 9] OU RMT @north nimbus, @unkempt bough, @empty verge, @echo rampart. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

bright parrot Jan 12, 2025, 1:44 PM

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it's my first team

tacit bluff Jan 12, 2025, 1:47 PM

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!pokepaste

regal ginkgoBOT Jan 12, 2025, 1:47 PM

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bright parrot Jan 12, 2025, 1:52 PM

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https://pokepast.es/cb64ed8d453d9adb

ember verge Jan 13, 2025, 12:47 AM

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https://pokepast.es/3fd2e8d710f1d2d7
any way i can improve this team?

true forge Jan 13, 2025, 2:56 AM

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https://pokepast.es/1e544b4f75d2b62e
thoughts on this

regal ginkgoBOT Jan 13, 2025, 2:56 AM

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New [Gen 9] OU RMT @north nimbus, @unkempt bough, @empty verge, @echo rampart. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

empty verge Jan 13, 2025, 5:23 AM

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Not really a fan of dual hazard ting

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You also have no ground immunity

restive forge Jan 13, 2025, 5:23 AM

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Soooo, in my opinión is a gratis team, but i dont know what Last two pokemon can i add

empty verge Jan 13, 2025, 5:23 AM

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Not really of fan of weavile and Val here asw

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I’d suggest keeping one (that one is weavile) I would recommend running a skarmory with brave bird and spikes here

empty verge Jan 13, 2025, 5:26 AM

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restive forge Soooo, in my opinión is a gratis team, but i dont know what Last two pokemon can...

We only rate complete teams you could ask in #comp-general for something like this though

restive forge Jan 13, 2025, 5:31 AM

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Thanks an sorry

empty verge Jan 13, 2025, 5:37 AM

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all g

restive forge Jan 13, 2025, 6:27 AM

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https://pokepast.es/d5ffc620ecf1fb5d

tacit bluff Jan 13, 2025, 6:35 AM

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I think you forgot natures

And also to put supreme overlord on kingambit

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But otherwise this is, not bad

restive forge Jan 13, 2025, 6:47 AM

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tacit bluff I think you forgot natures And also to put supreme overlord on kingambit

yes, ii forgot the natures

alpine furnace Jan 13, 2025, 12:48 PM

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https://pokepast.es/6bde6dcfc7e6c17f is a spinner required or is this fine.

regal ginkgoBOT Jan 13, 2025, 12:48 PM

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New [Gen 9] OU RMT @north nimbus, @unkempt bough, @empty verge, @echo rampart. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

low phoenix Jan 13, 2025, 1:13 PM

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alpine furnace https://pokepast.es/6bde6dcfc7e6c17f is a spinner required or is this fine.

No not really

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Although you may want to swap mola to something else

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Like a spin blocker such as sinistcha

alpine furnace Jan 13, 2025, 1:15 PM

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Doesnt tera fire kingambit become a problem then?

low phoenix Jan 13, 2025, 1:15 PM

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Mola doesn’t really check gambit on its own

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If you’re concerned about gambit you can swap pult to zama

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Or throw in a Keldeo somewhere

alpine furnace Jan 13, 2025, 1:18 PM

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https://pokepast.es/aea1240dcbc6a59a

What advantages would keldeo have > zamazenta here?

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I used defensive sinistcha purely because I REALLY hate ogerpon W but is CM better?

royal gorge Jan 13, 2025, 5:03 PM

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here's my ou team

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what do yall think

low phoenix Jan 13, 2025, 5:08 PM

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Pokepaste

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Anyhow Glimmora only fits on hyper offense which this doesn’t look like

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Give pult its hdb set

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Make cinderace it’s standard pivot set with court change for hazard removal

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You can perhaps change Glimmora to a Lando t for a better rocks setter on bulky offense

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Give prim one of its smogon sets I’d personally go with either assault vest as a bulky special pivot or calm mind sub noise for some stall fuckery

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You don’t need meow and Corv tbh prob change them to some bulky offense mons like raging bolt and kingambit

royal gorge Jan 13, 2025, 6:57 PM

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im honestly fine with my team

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im currently trying to see if i can give one or two of my mons a ground move

true forge Jan 13, 2025, 7:28 PM

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empty verge You also have no ground immunity

well then I could probably switch ting for gliscor ig?

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I only ran double hazards on ting bc I wanted both hazards but I didn't really have space for a second setter

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https://pokepast.es/e0fc65c900cc668d
smth like this

regal ginkgoBOT Jan 13, 2025, 7:34 PM

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New [Gen 9] OU RMT @north nimbus, @unkempt bough, @empty verge, @echo rampart. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

visual solstice Jan 13, 2025, 9:42 PM

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I just wasn't sure where else to post it lol

barren ridge Jan 13, 2025, 9:42 PM

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Not the channel for it, you can ask in #comp-general

visual solstice Jan 13, 2025, 9:42 PM

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Ahhh thank you!

cerulean gate Jan 14, 2025, 3:50 AM

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https://pokepast.es/9ce156deff5eec10 Pecharunt Dark Spam! w Scarf TBolt Val and Temper Flare Tusk

regal ginkgoBOT Jan 14, 2025, 3:50 AM

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New [Gen 9] OU RMT @north nimbus, @unkempt bough, @empty verge, @echo rampart. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

cerulean gate Jan 14, 2025, 4:23 AM

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in hindsight I think I should run Ice Spinner on Tusk

low phoenix Jan 14, 2025, 5:01 AM

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royal gorge im honestly fine with my team

well your team is very weak to hazards

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glimmora on its own isnt really a hazard removal option outside of hyper offense

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what elo are you playing on?

royal gorge Jan 14, 2025, 12:19 PM

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low phoenix what elo are you playing on?

1106

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14 wins and 16 losess

cold cosmos Jan 14, 2025, 12:24 PM

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https://pokepast.es/950fd470cf7187a8
can change val set

regal ginkgoBOT Jan 14, 2025, 12:24 PM

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New [Gen 9] OU RMT @north nimbus, @unkempt bough, @empty verge, @echo rampart. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

hardy ginkgo Jan 14, 2025, 12:39 PM

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https://pokepast.es/4da89fe2dfb3fac0
Is quaquaval actually good here?, also wondering abt the dnite set

low phoenix Jan 14, 2025, 1:14 PM

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royal gorge 1106

Yea 1100 Elo isn’t a good indicator of what is good and what isn’t

static agate Jan 14, 2025, 1:56 PM

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https://pokepast.es/3eef2deeba3938ff

misty basin Jan 14, 2025, 2:03 PM

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static agate https://pokepast.es/3eef2deeba3938ff

I'd run the iron defense body press set on Zamazenta instead of an all out attacking one

tacit bluff Jan 14, 2025, 2:08 PM

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there's a lot more issues than just that

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the team is directionless rly

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oh and you forgot the item on arquanid lol

speaking of the spider, this is a webs team without any real webs abusers

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you either pivot to a BO team or rework it around webs cuz rn its not doing either very well

static agate Jan 14, 2025, 2:29 PM

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tacit bluff you either pivot to a BO team or rework it around webs cuz rn its not doing eith...

im gonna make this a BO team lol

tacit bluff Jan 14, 2025, 2:39 PM

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gotcha

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well then araq isn't rly needed

royal gorge Jan 14, 2025, 2:41 PM

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low phoenix Yea 1100 Elo isn’t a good indicator of what is good and what isn’t

im sorta doing it for fun

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but i might change my team a bit when the time comes

tacit bluff Jan 14, 2025, 2:48 PM

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royal gorge im sorta doing it for fun

thats fine, but when u post your team here you're doing it with the expectation that it would be rated under the assumption that you want to make it as viable as possible, and thus not just for fun

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but if you wanna just run it for the giggles

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no one is stopping ya

muted chasm Jan 14, 2025, 10:05 PM

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I tried to pick all the mons that I like, but I'm willing to part with some if this team has obvious blindspots, like if Reuniclus dies I will not beat Salazzle

low phoenix Jan 15, 2025, 7:01 AM

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muted chasm I tried to pick all the mons that I like, but I'm willing to part with some if t...

Salazzle isn’t viable in ou, don’t worry about her

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Also Blaziken only really fits on hyper offense reuniclus is a niche pick on bootspam teams and hoodra I can’t really comment on cuz I don’t really use him but you have iron crown and kingambit for your steels already so honestly drop him for something like great tusk or Lando t

tacit bluff Jan 15, 2025, 7:36 AM

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also serp kinda mid but it is viable ig

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I'm like, serps biggest hater

faint vortex Jan 15, 2025, 7:55 AM

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Following inspiration from another user's sun team and previous experiences building this archtype, I've retried my hand at Sun HO https://pokepast.es/d1df65240679ef09. Flame away!

regal ginkgoBOT Jan 15, 2025, 7:55 AM

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New [Gen 9] OU RMT @north nimbus, @unkempt bough, @empty verge, @echo rampart. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

misty basin Jan 15, 2025, 8:28 AM

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muted chasm I tried to pick all the mons that I like, but I'm willing to part with some if t...

Gambit is a good late cleaner
Haven't played with iron leaves
Serperior doesn't seem that good nowadays
Blaziken only really fits on hyper offence teams and you basically need to force a switch to get going
Reuniclus is really slow and wouldn't fit well there
Goodra... Yeah

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Bruh not iron leaves

barren ridge Jan 15, 2025, 8:31 AM

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muted chasm I tried to pick all the mons that I like, but I'm willing to part with some if t...

You seem very new to competitive. You should try using sample teams before teambuilding as it'll allow you to learn about OU and how the metagame works.

regal ginkgoBOT Jan 15, 2025, 8:31 AM

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OU (Gen 9)

Overview

For more info, see this format's Dex page.

barren ridge Jan 15, 2025, 8:31 AM

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you can find sample teams there

opaque atlas Jan 15, 2025, 10:16 AM

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https://pokepast.es/a9d291b7d7dcff39

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Mainly meant to support Raging Bolt

wraith abyss Jan 15, 2025, 1:07 PM

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regal ginkgo

@barren ridge says ops we ran into a problem

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When I click sample teams

cold cosmos Jan 15, 2025, 1:20 PM

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must be network

wraith abyss Jan 15, 2025, 2:02 PM

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cold cosmos must be network

Mb I was banned from smogon site 💀

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Opened a ticket let's see what heppans clueless

cold cosmos Jan 15, 2025, 2:07 PM

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ic

twilit knot Jan 15, 2025, 6:09 PM

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https://pokepast.es/f36b2136fe112061

regal ginkgoBOT Jan 15, 2025, 6:09 PM

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New [Gen 9] OU RMT @north nimbus, @unkempt bough, @empty verge, @echo rampart. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

vagrant steeple Jan 15, 2025, 6:21 PM

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https://pokepast.es/a93a8ce77884ddd9
not super experienced w cg teambuilding, tried to go for a sticky web ho thing, araquanid + gholdengo is the webs core, then kinda just slapped together a bunch of sweepers? tusk for hazard control, have booster valiant in case the webs plan doesnt work and i need a backup sweper, then crown/bolt are sweepers

tacit bluff Jan 15, 2025, 6:30 PM

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this is p decent, I'd make tusk a bulk up set tho and maybe gleam over focus blast on ghold to compliment tera fairy? oh and also if you wanna use the stored power shenanigans iirc latias is a bit better at that then iron crown, iron crown is a better mon overall but its usually an offensive pivot

vagrant steeple Jan 15, 2025, 6:33 PM

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thanks! the sample set is cm/agi/sp/aura sphere but i think agi is pretty droppable on this team due to webs, what should i replace it with?

tacit bluff Jan 15, 2025, 6:37 PM

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You could maybe go with draining kiss instead, personally I'd keep agility to rack up the stored power damage tho also into the various boots mons that won't care for webs such as dragapult which can threaten huge damage with either of its stabs

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Oh yeah valiant has a mixed set on smogdex you can switch the ev spread to that and you should be good to go

vagrant steeple Jan 15, 2025, 6:39 PM

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is moth > valiant an option

tacit bluff Jan 15, 2025, 6:41 PM

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It would bolster the fairy if you swap iron crown out, so it's an option, especially cuz the most relevant offensive fairy in enamorus is immune to webs

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Try out both, you could also try out destiny bond val to trade for your opponents sweeper

hot dome Jan 15, 2025, 7:19 PM

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Moth is better valiant on webs

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Mainly because you need something to beat up Cinderace and moth does it excellently

hot dome Jan 15, 2025, 10:26 PM

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this channel is for singles ou lol

runic hull Jan 15, 2025, 10:29 PM

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hot dome this channel is for singles ou lol

heard my bad

faint vortex Jan 16, 2025, 2:48 AM

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faint vortex Following inspiration from another user's sun team and previous experiences buil...

Can I get some advice on this team? Please and thank you

humble elk Jan 16, 2025, 4:29 AM

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https://pokepast.es/ce9f6e5df6fa2172 I made this team a whilee back, how well does it hold up?

regal ginkgoBOT Jan 16, 2025, 4:29 AM

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New [Gen 9] OU RMT @north nimbus, @unkempt bough, @empty verge, @echo rampart. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

queen smelt Jan 17, 2025, 2:28 AM

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Hey so I may or may not have enterred a tournament forgot about it its ou dont have ou team and yeah I got till sunday. Someone please help

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I wanna be in it though it seems fun

hot dome Jan 17, 2025, 2:56 AM

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ask #comp-general for this kind of advice

covert saffron Jan 17, 2025, 3:45 AM

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cews

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chews

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how do i pokepaste stuff

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https://pokepast.es/86d0e29fe8ea898f

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got it!

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this is my first etam

regal ginkgoBOT Jan 17, 2025, 3:45 AM

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New [Gen 9] OU RMT @north nimbus, @unkempt bough, @empty verge, @echo rampart. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

timid mango Jan 17, 2025, 5:26 AM

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@tepid hazel

tepid hazel Jan 17, 2025, 5:27 AM

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here?

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NAT DEX TEAM : charizard Y, ferrothorn, great tusk, weavile, slowking-galar, and primarina, any tips pls feel free to dm me

timid mango Jan 17, 2025, 5:27 AM

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send me the pokepast in dms

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ill send it for you

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ill forward their advice

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qhen they give

tepid hazel Jan 17, 2025, 5:28 AM

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i dont have all mymoves and etc setup yet

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just the mons

timid mango Jan 17, 2025, 5:28 AM

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Oh

runic nebula Jan 17, 2025, 5:29 AM

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tepid hazel NAT DEX TEAM : charizard Y, ferrothorn, great tusk, weavile, slowking-galar, and...

This should be in NatDex OU Rates

narrow crest Jan 17, 2025, 7:13 AM

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https://pokepast.es/a2245822c81c7d7b

faint vortex Jan 17, 2025, 7:34 AM

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Wanting to climb to 1700 elo from 1550. Love using this style of team, but am conflicted as to which version is best. Anyone can review both and see which team is best equipped to get me there? Would be greatly appreciated. Version #1: https://pokepast.es/7f72b48c41fbb3dc Version #2: https://pokepast.es/b9790cc38a8d45e7

timid mango Jan 17, 2025, 8:56 AM

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https://pokepast.es/0e8ef99ea465ff6b first impressions of the new team i built (promise not gonna be like last time)

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ill test it a bit

misty basin Jan 17, 2025, 12:05 PM

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Balance team?

timid mango Jan 17, 2025, 12:27 PM

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idk but id say so

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u ran some calcs earlier in general no?

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moon can outspeed and kill dhengo with knock off

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and dhengo can stop hazards from going away so i gotta kill it

timid mango Jan 17, 2025, 3:55 PM

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nvm gonna improve team

wraith abyss Jan 17, 2025, 4:27 PM

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Idk anything abt gen9 but many mvs just kos everything

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For eg - ivy cudgel

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Etc

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Can ya suggest me some changes to get high on ladders

timid mango Jan 17, 2025, 4:32 PM

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wraith abyss

is this stall?

wraith abyss Jan 17, 2025, 4:37 PM

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timid mango is this stall?

Ig I just ask chat gpt for it clueless

timid mango Jan 17, 2025, 4:38 PM

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wraith abyss Ig I just ask chat gpt for it<:clueless:1147019607354384455>

guys look out chatgpt coming for yall

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damn ai can make decent teams

wraith abyss Jan 17, 2025, 4:38 PM

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Btw corde <<< Bibi

timid mango Jan 17, 2025, 4:38 PM

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all ik is that i barely see dmg

wraith abyss Jan 17, 2025, 4:38 PM

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timid mango damn ai can make decent teams

I lose to ivy cudgel 💀

timid mango Jan 17, 2025, 4:38 PM

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wraith abyss Btw corde <<< Bibi

i will rival that statement

timid mango Jan 17, 2025, 4:39 PM

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wraith abyss I lose to ivy cudgel 💀

decent

wraith abyss Jan 17, 2025, 4:39 PM

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timid mango all ik is that i barely see dmg

Yh idk how to deal with steel mons

timid mango Jan 17, 2025, 4:39 PM

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wait delete the team

wraith abyss Jan 17, 2025, 4:39 PM

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Bruh

timid mango Jan 17, 2025, 4:39 PM

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(dont forget to thank gpt)

wraith abyss Jan 17, 2025, 4:39 PM

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timid mango Jan 17, 2025, 4:39 PM

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so you know whats a core right?

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wait gtg

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cya

wraith abyss Jan 17, 2025, 4:40 PM

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C ya

wraith abyss Jan 17, 2025, 4:40 PM

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timid mango so you know whats a core right?

Ig coldsire corv dozo?

timid mango Jan 17, 2025, 4:41 PM

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mb for being bad

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id say wait a bit

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rn the good ppl are waking up

wraith abyss Jan 17, 2025, 4:46 PM

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-_-

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I'll destroy the ladder soon clueless

low phoenix Jan 17, 2025, 6:12 PM

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wraith abyss

Give clodsire amnesia over earthquake so it can wall special stuff more long term

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Waterfall is preferred over liquidation on dodo because more pp

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Since this is sp def scor you can give it Tera steel for future sight or water for ice/water resist but honestly you don’t really want to Tera scor

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Make corv Tera fighting to check gambit better since you are running iron press (you can also make it Tera fire to block burn since you are hdb)

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I’d personally make Pex Tera steel for emergency stored power/waterpon grass attack predict but like scor pex Tera is situational

barren ridge Jan 17, 2025, 6:37 PM

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wraith abyss Ig I just ask chat gpt for it<:clueless:1147019607354384455>

Please dont post stuff you've just generated with chatgpt

wraith abyss Jan 17, 2025, 6:38 PM

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barren ridge Please dont post stuff you've just generated with chatgpt

For the team I configured it

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Moves items ability

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Evs

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That's not just generated ig

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worrywhirl

wraith abyss Jan 17, 2025, 6:48 PM

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low phoenix Give clodsire amnesia over earthquake so it can wall special stuff more long ter...

Ty !

hot dome Jan 17, 2025, 8:04 PM

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wraith abyss

First of all: don't use chatgpt for showdown, its notoriously dogshit at its job and is not reliable in the slightest
Second: This stall team is not viable due to the lack of hazard absorbers + checks to certain threats (chiefly Kyurem), and I would recommend using the sample stall teams for nwo: stall is a notoriously hard archetype to build this generation, and its options are extrmeely limited for viable teams

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https://pokepast.es/1b7720880ff5cff1
this is the latest "viable" stall team, and you can read the RMT here

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https://www.smogon.com/forums/threads/peaked-1-2039-elo-–-bronzong-stall.3756953/

Smogon Forums

SV OU - Peaked #1 (2039 ELO) – Bronzong Stall

Peaked #1 (2039 ELO) – Bronzong Stall

:sv/Blissey: :sv/amoonguss: :sv/bronzong: :sv/Gliscor: :sv/dondozo: :sv/alomomola:

https://pokepast.es/1b7720880ff5cff1

Table of Contents

Introduction
Proof of Peak
Team Members
Threats
Replays
Acknowledgments

Introduction

Proof of Peak

Team...

wraith abyss Jan 17, 2025, 8:06 PM

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hot dome First of all: don't use chatgpt for showdown, its notoriously dogshit at its job...

Ty

charred canopy Jan 18, 2025, 12:22 AM

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hot dome https://www.smogon.com/forums/threads/peaked-1-2039-elo-–-bronzong-stall.3756953...

not linking ewins garchomp stall...

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smh

hot dome Jan 18, 2025, 12:22 AM

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like i said, viable stall

faint vortex Jan 18, 2025, 4:04 AM

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faint vortex Wanting to climb to 1700 elo from 1550. Love using this style of team, but am co...

Can anyone help me out with my dilemma? I'd appreciate any feedback

faint vortex Jan 18, 2025, 4:05 AM

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faint vortex Following inspiration from another user's sun team and previous experiences buil...

And also for this team I made a couple of days back

timid mango Jan 18, 2025, 4:34 AM

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https://pokepast.es/2edc617e4fbf2640 first impressions?

regal ginkgoBOT Jan 18, 2025, 4:34 AM

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New [Gen 9] OU RMT @north nimbus, @unkempt bough, @empty verge, @echo rampart. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

timid mango Jan 18, 2025, 5:21 AM

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anyone?

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imma wait

clever rover Jan 18, 2025, 5:49 AM

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timid mango https://pokepast.es/2edc617e4fbf2640 first impressions?

Bad roaring moon set, thats for sure

Details would have to wait on others

timid mango Jan 18, 2025, 5:50 AM

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clever rover Bad roaring moon set, thats for sure Details would have to wait on others

what moon set do you think would be good?

alpine hornet Jan 18, 2025, 5:50 AM

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timid mango what moon set do you think would be good?

never run speed booster moon

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except on banded moon on sun

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ddmoon should always be atk proto

timid mango Jan 18, 2025, 5:51 AM

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alr

hot dome Jan 18, 2025, 6:36 AM

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timid mango https://pokepast.es/2edc617e4fbf2640 first impressions?

This team is split between multiple styles
You've got a fat, passive Ting Lu (and a barely viable Rotom-W), then a hyper offense core of Valiant Rmoon Treads, and then Specs Crown

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Settle on one style: either stick to the hyper offense (and change some of their sets), or pivot to the bulky offense with crown + valiant and drop the rest, or pivot to the balance/fat with ting lu and ig rotom if you really want to force it

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Reminder to test your teams on ladder before sending them here: it can help expose a lot of flaws/areas of improvement with just a few games

timid mango Jan 18, 2025, 6:39 AM

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alr

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i used the rmoon ival and crown due to them doing 2 3 type cores

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fighting dakr psychic

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dragon fairy steel

hot dome Jan 18, 2025, 6:39 AM

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dont think about 3 type cores they're really not all that

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build around team styles

timid mango Jan 18, 2025, 6:40 AM

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id say bulky offence

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alr have a ho team

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wait lemme check my teams

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nvm i would like to pivot to balance

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alr got a bo and ho

hot dome Jan 18, 2025, 6:44 AM

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frankly atp you would strip the team so much itd be better to run a sample

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since you would essentially be building off of ting lu and no other mons

timid mango Jan 18, 2025, 6:44 AM

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so bo?

hot dome Jan 18, 2025, 6:45 AM

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build around the core of crown + valiant

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this isn't a teambuilding channel so i wont build the entire team for you but you should probably go some kinda core of lando crown val etc

timid mango Jan 18, 2025, 6:50 AM

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alr

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also in smogon sets

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why does defencive lando use e power

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and not eq

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it has a higher attack stat

hot dome Jan 18, 2025, 6:58 AM

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ep hits targets with defense boosting moves ie zamazenta and bu tusk

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(you hsould read the analyses for the sets they explain why)

timid mango Jan 18, 2025, 7:04 AM

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https://pokepast.es/790227e68f2de369

timid mango Jan 18, 2025, 7:04 AM

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hot dome ep hits targets with defense boosting moves ie zamazenta and bu tusk

just read them

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also ive finished with the bo approach

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everything in the team resists each other

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kingambit switches to icrown

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landot switches to help king

hot dome Jan 18, 2025, 7:06 AM

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you get 6-0ed by waterpon

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please test your teams before posting them here

timid mango Jan 18, 2025, 7:06 AM

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mb

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ill try dragonite > kingambit

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as it says in rfaq command it checks waterpon

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damn no i need gambit

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imma try pecha > alom

timid mango Jan 18, 2025, 8:39 AM

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when tf did poison not resist water

tacit bluff Jan 18, 2025, 8:57 AM

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Since forever

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The two types have never had an interaction

broken shard Jan 18, 2025, 9:18 AM

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https://pokepast.es/0f16085fa1d4142d

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serpsweat

cold cosmos Jan 18, 2025, 10:59 AM

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broken shard https://pokepast.es/0f16085fa1d4142d

hell fucking nah

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see like a pinkacross video on it

wraith abyss Jan 18, 2025, 12:11 PM

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How is the team

broken shard Jan 18, 2025, 12:33 PM

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cold cosmos hell fucking nah

alr how about this https://pokepast.es/1cd01700cabac111

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sum slight sum slight

cold cosmos Jan 18, 2025, 12:42 PM

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change that name bro

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i like it lowkey

broken shard Jan 18, 2025, 1:24 PM

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ty

barren ridge Jan 18, 2025, 2:56 PM

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wraith abyss

Use pokepaste. Use the dex to help you pick better sets; you have very bad sets like specs nasty plot and spinless sash tusk

alpine furnace Jan 18, 2025, 6:27 PM

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Hmmm wanted to try a hydrapple balance in ou. https://pokepast.es/d4276eeafaa8a0f0

regal ginkgoBOT Jan 18, 2025, 6:27 PM

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New [Gen 9] OU RMT @north nimbus, @unkempt bough, @empty verge, @echo rampart. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

tepid hazel Jan 18, 2025, 6:33 PM

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wraith abyss

Uhhhhhh you might wanna switch up some sets

wraith abyss Jan 18, 2025, 6:33 PM

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tepid hazel Uhhhhhh you might wanna switch up some sets

What stat 🤔

tepid hazel Jan 18, 2025, 6:33 PM

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Look over items for each pokemon

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No specs on ghold or sash on tusk

wraith abyss Jan 18, 2025, 6:34 PM

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Hmm

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What should I change it with tho

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concern

tepid hazel Jan 18, 2025, 6:34 PM

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If body press is your only attack on corv run iron defense not bulk up

tepid hazel Jan 18, 2025, 6:35 PM

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wraith abyss What should I change it with tho

Booster for tusk and balloon for ghold

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There are other choices though

wraith abyss Jan 18, 2025, 6:35 PM

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tepid hazel Booster for tusk and balloon for ghold

Air ballon right?

tepid hazel Jan 18, 2025, 6:35 PM

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Yes

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Also gliscor needs facade and tusk needs rapid spin

wraith abyss Jan 18, 2025, 6:36 PM

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tepid hazel Also gliscor needs facade and tusk needs rapid spin

Facade for 🤔

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I removed and added protect

tepid hazel Jan 18, 2025, 6:37 PM

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There’s multiple gliscor sets and yours is kind of an awkward combination

wraith abyss Jan 18, 2025, 6:37 PM

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💀

wraith abyss Jan 18, 2025, 6:37 PM

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tepid hazel There’s multiple gliscor sets and yours is kind of an awkward combination

Tell me good ms please

tepid hazel Jan 18, 2025, 6:38 PM

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Check the official smogon site and you can see a list of good sets

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For instance, look up “gliscor smogon SV”

shut swallow Jan 18, 2025, 7:46 PM

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https://pokepast.es/ee49f46ca977b3de hyper offense

tacit bluff Jan 18, 2025, 8:01 PM

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alpine furnace Hmmm wanted to try a hydrapple balance in ou. https://pokepast.es/d4276eeafaa8a0...

Based hydrapple is so epic

I'm not the best with these very bulky balance teams but imo trick on iron valiant over one of your attacking moves might be a good idea to beat opposing balance

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I always like to carry one or two of those tools to shut down more passive mons

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Taunt encore trick etc etc

alpine furnace Jan 19, 2025, 12:16 AM

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tacit bluff Based hydrapple is so epic I'm not the best with these very bulky balance teams...

Scarf trick gholdengo probably fits better since it also acts as a spin blocker.

dapper vault Jan 19, 2025, 1:35 AM

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wraith abyss

whats the purpose of bu on corvi if u only have body press

muted chasm Jan 19, 2025, 1:45 AM

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barren ridge You seem very new to competitive. You should try using sample teams before teamb...

This one seems sort of appealing, it’s straight-forward enough as someone who would sweep w/ Serp, Blaziken, and Porygon-Z against my friends in gen 6

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https://pokepast.es/af25fed7fb99cdad

muted chasm Jan 19, 2025, 1:47 AM

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misty basin Gambit is a good late cleaner Haven't played with iron leaves Serperior doesn't ...

I only picked Iron because he has like the highest win rate in doubles with Kingambit but that doesn’t really apply to Ou singles. I’m fine with playing a hyper-offense team, but what Pokémon simply outclass Serperior and Reuniclus? I’m not married to them but they are favorites, their familiar playstyle on a better mon would be fine

hot dome Jan 19, 2025, 1:49 AM

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there are no mons that really replicate the role of serperior and reuniclus

muted chasm Jan 19, 2025, 1:49 AM

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What exactly is a “Core” when it comes to team building? What makes Slowbro Galar such a good pivot/what is a pivot beyond using switch moves?

hot dome Jan 19, 2025, 1:49 AM

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but there are mons that outshine their general niche

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and this is more a question for #comp-general than sv ou rates

muted chasm Jan 19, 2025, 1:49 AM

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Oh right my bad

hot dome Jan 19, 2025, 1:49 AM

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as these are general competitive questions as opposed to team questions

muted chasm Jan 19, 2025, 1:49 AM

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Also fair enough, I’ll try and transfer to there

timid mango Jan 19, 2025, 3:19 AM

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for gliscor just use spikes eq prot toxic

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prot is mandatory so no knock off

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toxic helps cripple physical attackers

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eq is good dmg and no taunt

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spikes are spikes

timid mango Jan 19, 2025, 3:44 AM

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chat what are good water type counters

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all i have to beat water is a pecharunt for waterpon

low phoenix Jan 19, 2025, 3:48 AM

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Waterpon dragons zapdos sinistcha niche options like amoongus wo chien

timid mango Jan 19, 2025, 3:54 AM

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tbh sinistcha might work to replace pecha

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https://pokepast.es/44d46acd9d30224f thoughts on replacing pecha with sinistcha?

regal ginkgoBOT Jan 19, 2025, 3:57 AM

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New [Gen 9] OU RMT @north nimbus, @unkempt bough, @empty verge, @echo rampart. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

timid mango Jan 19, 2025, 4:01 AM

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now i see why im not supposed to post a team that much

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actually imma try sinistcha

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good moves strength sap

mortal edge Jan 19, 2025, 4:28 AM

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https://pokepast.es/8c8e2f4606a45047

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This webs team is too fire for the eyes to see.

low phoenix Jan 19, 2025, 4:47 AM

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mortal edge https://pokepast.es/8c8e2f4606a45047

Just use araq bro

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You don’t even have a sun setter take take advantage of leavanny

rapid agate Jan 19, 2025, 5:29 AM

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i mean the speed tier alone is worth it in some cases

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i think off sun you may want to just stick with sash and run like

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the same spread but just sash

low phoenix Jan 19, 2025, 5:52 AM

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i feel like ribombee has the role of a fast webs setter already

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leavanny has coverage and surprise but thats it

timid mango Jan 19, 2025, 5:58 AM

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isnt araq like way bulkier

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you can webs

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and like hinder a monuseless with custap endure endeavor

low phoenix Jan 19, 2025, 5:59 AM

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araq has a positive matchup against all hazard control

timid mango Jan 19, 2025, 5:59 AM

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compared to webs and dioe

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id say araq better

low phoenix Jan 19, 2025, 5:59 AM

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great tusk iron treads cinderace doesnt like getting surfed/liquidated

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hamurott if you are using a bug attack

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even no brave bird corviknight

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and g weezing

mortal edge Jan 19, 2025, 6:57 AM

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rapid agate i think off sun you may want to just stick with sash and run like

I tried out Sash but I really loved the pivoting utility of ej pack.

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Leavanny can afford to not run Sash because of ej pack pivot though it doesn't worry too much.

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also ej pack is way more consistent than sash because of the prelevance of hazards in this game.

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Also for the love of god Leavanny and Araquanid fills two different niches.

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One is a bulky Sticky Web setter who can run Custap to overcome it's speed weakness and retaliate against leads that would usually beat Ribombee. Another is a fast Sticky Web setter who wants Eject Pack Leaf Storm to flip matchups and uses it's coverage moves and speed to speedcreep mons and threaten them.

timid mango Jan 19, 2025, 7:53 AM

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they have the same role but diffrtent niche then right?

timid mango Jan 19, 2025, 8:28 AM

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https://pokepast.es/07430b388ac924c0 also 1 question. would yall find moon > bolt better on the team?

clever rover Jan 19, 2025, 9:36 AM

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https://pokepast.es/d92d4d4c2e5a7e40

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SV OU is so cancer

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Maybe I should just stick to Ubers instead

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Anyways some hazard stack I tried to make

misty basin Jan 19, 2025, 12:03 PM

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i'd rather use Glimmora to stack hazards

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gholdengo is cool though hazard removal blocking

alpine hornet Jan 19, 2025, 12:20 PM

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clever rover https://pokepast.es/d92d4d4c2e5a7e40

this looks fine, i’d maybe make moltres mixdef to improve the kyu mu and make pult wisp tghost over twave tfairy

alpine hornet Jan 19, 2025, 12:22 PM

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misty basin i'd rather use Glimmora to stack hazards

??? bro this is evidently not HO

misty basin Jan 19, 2025, 12:22 PM

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got it

tacit bluff Jan 19, 2025, 12:48 PM

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Yeah please don't run glimmora as your hazard stacker on any hstack team that isn't offence

low phoenix Jan 19, 2025, 1:36 PM

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https://pokepast.es/97b01e98c37ff634

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I wanted to build around tankchomp but can’t help feeling they my matchup into knock tusk is meh

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I had great Tusk over meow originally but I wanted a second speedy mon that can knock too so maybe boots rai can fit over meow?

timid mango Jan 19, 2025, 4:01 PM

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wouldnt meow beat tusk?

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like a flower trick ohkos or smt

alpine hornet Jan 19, 2025, 4:28 PM

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timid mango like a flower trick ohkos or smt

ice spinner on tusk does more to meow than ftrick does to tusk bro 😭

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meow is a fraud

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unless u run band meow

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and even then ftrick has a chance to not ohko

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between ftrick and taxel they have to guess which button to click but

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meow does not solve a poor tusk mu per se

tacit bluff Jan 19, 2025, 4:51 PM

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timid mango wouldnt meow beat tusk?

its a shaky answer at best

low phoenix Jan 19, 2025, 5:28 PM

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meow doing less dmg to tusk than tusk doing dmg to meow is crazy

tacit bluff Jan 19, 2025, 7:07 PM

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Tusk does have a mild case of stupid physical bulk

worthy geode Jan 19, 2025, 8:06 PM

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yeo yeo yeo

clever rover Jan 19, 2025, 8:14 PM

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alpine hornet this looks fine, i’d maybe make moltres mixdef to improve the kyu mu and make pu...

Triple wisp is wild

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But sure wynaut

alpine hornet Jan 19, 2025, 8:22 PM

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clever rover Triple wisp is wild

o true

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yh idt u need wisp krai here even

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knock krai might be good

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or plot 3a

alpine hornet Jan 19, 2025, 8:23 PM

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tacit bluff Tusk does have a mild case of stupid physical bulk

Meow also notably has a mild case of being ass

clever rover Jan 19, 2025, 9:25 PM

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alpine hornet knock krai might be good

Holy hell

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Oh wait

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Knock wisp!

alpine hornet Jan 19, 2025, 9:26 PM

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clever rover Knock wisp!

u dont need wisp on krai here bro

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u have pult + molt

clever rover Jan 19, 2025, 9:26 PM

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Awwwwwwww but it baits in so many things

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I might also be weak to prim but idk

tepid hazel Jan 19, 2025, 10:55 PM

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timid mango https://pokepast.es/07430b388ac924c0 also 1 question. would yall find moon > bol...

A dark type would be nice, but you need some priority

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Knock off on Val should be okay

clever rover Jan 20, 2025, 12:37 AM

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alpine hornet u have pult + molt

I just got swept by venusaur for the 69420th time

tepid hazel Jan 20, 2025, 12:54 AM

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Venusaur is so underrated

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It should be on way more sun teams

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Like on every one 😭

worthy geode Jan 20, 2025, 1:11 AM

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https://pokepast.es/d53c0ae5d53ff9d9

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how do I finish this tr team

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any suggestions

hot dome Jan 20, 2025, 1:14 AM

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worthy geode https://pokepast.es/d53c0ae5d53ff9d9

We only rate completed teams, and this is for singles OU, not doubles

worthy geode Jan 20, 2025, 1:15 AM

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uh

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is there a dou rmt?

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there is

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its js untouched

alpine hornet Jan 20, 2025, 1:18 AM

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worthy geode its js untouched

the raters usually respond p quickly

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its just that fewer players means requests happen less often

worthy geode Jan 20, 2025, 1:19 AM

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ohhh

timid mango Jan 20, 2025, 2:21 AM

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alpine hornet ice spinner on tusk does more to meow than ftrick does to tusk bro 😭

only issue is i have a bad ghost type mu

alpine furnace Jan 20, 2025, 3:12 AM

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Hmmmm attempt 2 at trying to snuff out ogerpon W this time using ogerpon W on the team.

https://pokepast.es/e2020d6200e07828

My main worry is if the team is too slow? Most fast mons I need to worry about seem to already be dealt with, val is dealt with by priority + AV iron horns(whatever it's name is called), ting lu beats out moth and pult, pecharunt beats out zamazenta, rillaboom helps in beating scarf samm

regal ginkgoBOT Jan 20, 2025, 3:12 AM

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New [Gen 9] OU RMT @north nimbus, @unkempt bough, @empty verge, @echo rampart. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

quaint rose Jan 20, 2025, 3:34 AM

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Could someone be kind enough to teach me how to make a team?

tacit bluff Jan 20, 2025, 3:39 AM

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alpine hornet Meow also notably has a mild case of being ass

Ngl I think it's decent but that's for a different channel

hot dome Jan 20, 2025, 3:59 AM

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alpine furnace Hmmmm attempt 2 at trying to snuff out ogerpon W this time using ogerpon W on th...

why av rillaboom?

alpine furnace Jan 20, 2025, 3:59 AM

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Scarf? It should be AV

hot dome Jan 20, 2025, 4:01 AM

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whast the thinking behind thils team? you're lacking speed control except for rillaboom, this looks like a weird balance team but not with a lot of the common balance staples, and this team is still weak to wogerpon

alpine furnace Jan 20, 2025, 4:04 AM

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hot dome whast the thinking behind thils team? you're lacking speed control except for ri...

It started out as an attempt at pecharunt balance utilizing ting lu, pecharunt, but I had some thoughts regarding mons like kyurem which is where iron horns is from, it kinda transitioned to a mix match of balance and like BO.

But the primary goal above all else was a pecharunt balance.

hot dome Jan 20, 2025, 4:04 AM

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pecharunt really isnt that good on balance

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atp you have better ghost types and also aren't as afraid of fighting types so there's not as much a reason to run pecharunt

alpine furnace Jan 20, 2025, 4:05 AM

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It fits better on BO or is it mostly just an offensive mon.

hot dome Jan 20, 2025, 4:06 AM

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i mean its a defensive pivot

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but it fits on bulky offense because its whole gimmick is "quick pivot that can blank fighting types and provide opportunities for fellow dark types"

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which isn't as necessary on balance since you already have quite a few fall backs against fighting types

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balance doesn't dark spam to the same degree

alpine furnace Jan 20, 2025, 4:10 AM

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So something better would be maybe forming it around like pecharunt + kingambit, maybe zamazenta as well to continue to help against ogerpon W and help with speed.

hot dome Jan 20, 2025, 4:11 AM

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yes

alpine furnace Jan 20, 2025, 4:42 AM

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Something like this may be better https://pokepast.es/400afdb9a18bdfee

hot dome Jan 20, 2025, 4:59 AM

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still dont know why you're using av rillaboom

tacit bluff Jan 20, 2025, 5:01 AM

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Yh rilla is usually banded

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It has some insane breaking power with a choice band

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Meanwhile AV is not really offering much

alpine furnace Jan 20, 2025, 5:52 AM

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Got it, banded boom, anything else need changing?

timid mango Jan 20, 2025, 6:18 AM

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band stab grassy glide with adamant has insane damage

hot dome Jan 20, 2025, 6:25 AM

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alpine furnace Got it, banded boom, anything else need changing?

dont run rillaboom in general i dont understand what it does for this team

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like genuinely why are you running rillaboom

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also your lack of actual spdef tankers is a struggle esp against moth kyurem wake bolt etc

timid mango Jan 20, 2025, 6:30 AM

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i just saw the team

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wakes having a field day

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sadly thats the same for my team

hot dome Jan 20, 2025, 6:31 AM

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kyurem's having a field day

alpine furnace Jan 20, 2025, 6:31 AM

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I've realized that, thinking of a way to combat that.

timid mango Jan 20, 2025, 6:32 AM

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Water fire coverage is real good

hot dome Jan 20, 2025, 6:32 AM

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drop rillaboom, slot on gking, swap out tusk for a dark type breaker like darkrai

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bam

timid mango Jan 20, 2025, 6:32 AM

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hits so kuch mons

alpine furnace Jan 20, 2025, 6:34 AM

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Vested glowking or hdb pivot. I assume pivot due to no defog.

hot dome Jan 20, 2025, 6:36 AM

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yes

timid mango Jan 20, 2025, 6:36 AM

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btw relax

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if you manage to add kyurem

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glowking can set snow for khu

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letting him tank more

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and safely set up

hot dome Jan 20, 2025, 6:38 AM

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that is not relevant to this team

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ddance kyurem is not a good fit forthis team

timid mango Jan 20, 2025, 6:39 AM

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oh

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mb

hot dome Jan 20, 2025, 6:39 AM

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please don't give advice if you're not experienced with the tier

timid mango Jan 20, 2025, 6:40 AM

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Also what are good wake counters

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its either im stupid or https://pokepast.es/176e7976a5cd9019 this team gets run down by wake

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or does ival beat it

hot dome Jan 20, 2025, 6:40 AM

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why is this marked ag

timid mango Jan 20, 2025, 6:41 AM

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idk

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changing to ou

hot dome Jan 20, 2025, 6:41 AM

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this team isn't very comfortable into wake but has ways out with val moon and crown, though its still a rough mu

timid mango Jan 20, 2025, 6:42 AM

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tbf i do outspeed wake

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and lemme run a calc

hot dome Jan 20, 2025, 6:42 AM

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anyways if you have mu specific questions ask #comp-general

timid mango Jan 20, 2025, 6:43 AM

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outspeed and ohko

timid mango Jan 20, 2025, 6:43 AM

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hot dome anyways if you have mu specific questions ask <#393435165243867150>

ty

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but a walking wake can switch out

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and kill my ival

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so thats why itd rough

hot dome Jan 20, 2025, 6:43 AM

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like i said, ask general

timid mango Jan 20, 2025, 6:43 AM

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alr

timid mango Jan 20, 2025, 6:46 AM

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hot dome like i said, ask general

also what are some changes or changes i can test with on the team

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or leave it as is

barren ridge Jan 20, 2025, 7:22 AM

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Please read the RMT rules. Only post completed teams

wraith abyss Jan 20, 2025, 7:31 AM

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And when I ask things about mons abt what mvs to add etc you guys say keep it in ou sv

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Aa you never show up then lmao nvm

barren ridge Jan 20, 2025, 7:33 AM

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I do not know what you’re talking about. The purpose of the RMT section is for having completed and play tested teams rated to be optimized. If you want to teambuild you can do it in #comp-general

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Where I already linked you format resources twice in the last few hours

tough garnet Jan 20, 2025, 7:42 AM

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if you have a full team its for here

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if you need sets

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its on the smogdex

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dont need to ask in chat when its a google search away

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https://www.smogon.com/dex/sv/pokemon/

timid mango Jan 20, 2025, 7:51 AM

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https://pokepast.es/bbefb413e51411f2
do i leave as is or make changes?

timid mango Jan 20, 2025, 8:34 AM

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i genuinly feel like my team is ass

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is it because it is ass?

timid mango Jan 20, 2025, 9:33 AM

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like im losing to off meta

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is that a me problem or team problem

dapper vault Jan 20, 2025, 9:44 AM

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timid mango is that a me problem or team problem

both

timid mango Jan 20, 2025, 9:49 AM

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whats a way to stop it from being a team problem

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and more a me problem

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so the team is good but im bad

timid mango Jan 20, 2025, 10:17 AM

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anyone?

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damn

cold cosmos Jan 20, 2025, 11:59 AM

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https://pokepast.es/a6d83e9d260d110a

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how bad

regal ginkgoBOT Jan 20, 2025, 11:59 AM

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New [Gen 9] OU RMT @north nimbus, @unkempt bough, @empty verge, @echo rampart. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

tacit bluff Jan 20, 2025, 12:21 PM

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It has corv so it's immediately a fraud/s

cold cosmos Jan 20, 2025, 12:25 PM

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dang

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makes sense

low phoenix Jan 20, 2025, 12:35 PM

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https://pokepast.es/849358083117bfcb

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uhh tankchomp offense v2

cold cosmos Jan 20, 2025, 12:49 PM

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https://pokepast.es/b2854af9f7ccdf33

cold cosmos Jan 20, 2025, 12:49 PM

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cold cosmos https://pokepast.es/a6d83e9d260d110a

how bad part 2

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which is better?

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seems ground weak (t2)...

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hmmm..

timid mango Jan 20, 2025, 1:34 PM

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dont you have like a ground resist and a ground immunity

tacit bluff Jan 20, 2025, 2:07 PM

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What's the resist 😭

runic nebula Jan 20, 2025, 2:08 PM

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The resist is belief

tacit bluff Jan 20, 2025, 2:08 PM

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True

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Regardless idt it's that tusk weak

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Clef kinda answers it

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You could maybe swap one of your pivots for the birds tho

low phoenix Jan 20, 2025, 2:09 PM

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low phoenix uhh tankchomp offense v2

How is my team?

tacit bluff Jan 20, 2025, 2:09 PM

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Any bird that isn't CORV

D TIER MON

RU FOR IT 🗣️

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(I'm just a hater)

tacit bluff Jan 20, 2025, 2:14 PM

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low phoenix How is my team?

It's fine I just don't think tankchomp itself is a very good mon

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Like what does it do here that gliscor doesn't do better

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That isn't phasing

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Cuz that's kinda it

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And it's the only one doing the phasing anyway 😭

low phoenix Jan 20, 2025, 2:24 PM

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Yea tbh I just wanted to see if Tankchomp could actually work

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And if I could make garchomp work in ou

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Is sd chomp valid tho

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If I used Lando t I wouldn’t have to use torn t and swap av ting Lu to a real Mon like kingambit 😭

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I want to start experimenting with more niche mons that’s why I m asking

timid mango Jan 20, 2025, 2:35 PM

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try unbound hoopa

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if you manage to pull it off correctly

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its a monster

tacit bluff Jan 20, 2025, 2:35 PM

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low phoenix Is sd chomp valid tho

I mean kinda

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I just think kyurem better at that role tho

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thats the thing its not a bad mon its just a case of why

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its hard to justify

low phoenix Jan 20, 2025, 2:38 PM

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I mean I see a lot of SCL players use niche mons like chomp

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I assume it’s to surprise their opponent

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And from my experience sd chomp can legit sweep if you aren’t careful

tacit bluff Jan 20, 2025, 2:41 PM

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garchomp has a place

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on certain teams its good but again it has so much competition for its role

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its still garchomp at the end of the day

low phoenix Jan 20, 2025, 2:42 PM

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Yea ig

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Hard to use chomp when tusk/Lando t/scor exists

cold cosmos Jan 20, 2025, 4:16 PM

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tacit bluff You could maybe swap one of your pivots for the birds tho

i have a pivot? also which variation?

tacit bluff Jan 20, 2025, 4:17 PM

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sorry saw glowking with boots and just assumed pivot

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nasty plot lowk crazy

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it prob works somewhere but you already have bolt ngl

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meanwhile molt answers tusk cause burns are funny

low phoenix Jan 20, 2025, 4:55 PM

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tacit bluff meanwhile molt answers tusk cause burns are funny

not knock off tusk really

tacit bluff Jan 20, 2025, 4:56 PM

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I mean sure kinda

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knock is annoying but if molt is carrying hurricane tusk drops

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plus trading wisp on tusk for knock on molt to me isn't worth it

cold cosmos Jan 21, 2025, 7:53 AM

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hmmmm

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so which one do u prefer

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#2?

tacit bluff Jan 21, 2025, 8:41 AM

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I prefer 2 personally

cold cosmos Jan 21, 2025, 9:50 AM

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tacit bluff I prefer 2 personally

with uhhh like a molt for glow?

tacit bluff Jan 21, 2025, 9:50 AM

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ye

timid mango Jan 21, 2025, 10:08 AM

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https://pokepast.es/c6bce051ff867c10 thoughts before i test it

regal ginkgoBOT Jan 21, 2025, 10:08 AM

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New [Gen 9] OU RMT @north nimbus, @unkempt bough, @empty verge, @echo rampart. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

timid mango Jan 21, 2025, 10:08 AM

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or do i just pick up a sample

tacit bluff Jan 21, 2025, 10:09 AM

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test before posting not vice versa 😭

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this looks ok tho

timid mango Jan 21, 2025, 10:20 AM

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so its good or do i just use a sample

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So like do i use a sample instead or is it a usable/good team

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its a VoltTurn core that has 1 main goal

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find an opportunity for rmoon to setup and sweep

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all the pivoting can make small progress

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and maybe picking up 1 kill

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all mons resist each others weaknesses

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and a backup set up mon in ival

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iCrown helps with fsight and v switch into ival to pressure dark types to switch out so they dint get stab moonblasted

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if its a gambit that goes in then i dont go for ival and instead go for tusk or LandoT

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for eq

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maybe rmoon

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if i wall said dark type

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Also is the team usable or do i just opt for a sample

cold cosmos Jan 21, 2025, 11:35 AM

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"looks ok tho"

timid mango Jan 21, 2025, 12:21 PM

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i mean like from 1/10

timid mango Jan 21, 2025, 1:14 PM

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just beat a stall user and lost to someone else bc he crit

tacit bluff Jan 21, 2025, 2:21 PM

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what

timid mango Jan 21, 2025, 2:41 PM

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ignore what i said abt stall

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can you rate my team?

tacit bluff Jan 21, 2025, 2:42 PM

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timid mango ignore what i said abt stall

nah as in someone sent a broken yt link

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it got deleted

timid mango Jan 21, 2025, 2:42 PM

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oh

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what rating from 1/10 u think my team gets?

tacit bluff Jan 21, 2025, 2:43 PM

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ig 6-7 its like p standard offence, I'm personally not a huge fan of iron crown as a pivot but thats moreso personal preference its fine here and gives you a good fairy resist

timid mango Jan 21, 2025, 2:44 PM

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damn i finally made a good team

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what are ways to get it to an 8?

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thats like a set change

tacit bluff Jan 21, 2025, 2:53 PM

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it would need to be some minor optimisations tbh, I can't really see where you'd go at a glance with said optimisations

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you can only iron out the small flaws in a team with playtesting ngl

humble elk Jan 21, 2025, 3:36 PM

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https://pokepast.es/70ac066a8f8e7203 Just asking for critique/improvements on my Kyurem BO

timid mango Jan 21, 2025, 3:41 PM

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humble elk https://pokepast.es/70ac066a8f8e7203 Just asking for critique/improvements on my...

if mamoswine was ou youd get cooked tbh\

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but i cant be talkiing

humble elk Jan 21, 2025, 3:50 PM

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humble elk https://pokepast.es/70ac066a8f8e7203 Just asking for critique/improvements on my...

hmm I need some special bulk 🤔

timid mango Jan 21, 2025, 3:51 PM

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im no pro

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but why are there 2 dragon types

tacit bluff Jan 21, 2025, 3:52 PM

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type overlap is fine

timid mango Jan 21, 2025, 3:53 PM

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wouldnt switching bolt to a special defencive mon like blissey or maybe a bulky spD mon like hatt or glowking

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or is there some tech im far missing

tacit bluff Jan 21, 2025, 3:53 PM

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blissey just makes you lose momentum

humble elk Jan 21, 2025, 3:53 PM

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timid mango but why are there 2 dragon types

2 type overlap doesnt matter too much in my experience

timid mango Jan 21, 2025, 3:53 PM

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fairy would help resist kyurems dragon and fairy weaknessiirc

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nuzzle cripple

tacit bluff Jan 21, 2025, 3:54 PM

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and hatt kinda makes cinderace's job a bit harder

timid mango Jan 21, 2025, 3:54 PM

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humble elk 2 type overlap doesnt matter too much in my experience

also is that jay from ninjago

humble elk Jan 21, 2025, 3:54 PM

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timid mango wouldnt switching bolt to a special defencive mon like blissey or maybe a bulky ...

I was thinking of swapping bolt yeah but maybe not those options, but glowking sounds cool

timid mango Jan 21, 2025, 3:54 PM

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humble elk I was thinking of swapping bolt yeah but maybe not those options, but glowking s...

id say wait for more responses

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im not that good i was giving thoughts so dont rlly listen to my advice

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but glowking would help kyurem no?

humble elk Jan 21, 2025, 3:55 PM

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timid mango also is that jay from ninjago

yess

timid mango Jan 21, 2025, 3:55 PM

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snow would make kyurem thicke

humble elk Jan 21, 2025, 3:55 PM

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timid mango but glowking would help kyurem no?

yeahh thats a popular pairing

tacit bluff Jan 21, 2025, 4:01 PM

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regardless this team is eh like I get the idea but you're kinda lacking in the firepower department beyond kyurem to me

raging bolt without booster energy isn't that threatening and iron valiant has some kinda odd EVs for a mixed set, like this team looks like it would kinda struggle to break past some stuff if Kyurem goes down, enam also can defo give you some trouble

I'd say swap pecha for glowking who can help with spreading even more status and then for me personally I'd go with Zama over valiant and then smth like boots rockpon over raging bolt to threaten the birds

timid mango Jan 21, 2025, 4:02 PM

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also go for the boots glowking pivot set

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setting ice for kyurem gonna be rlly helpful

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bc of the def buff

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and safely gets kyurem on the field

tacit bluff Jan 21, 2025, 4:02 PM

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yeah thats a nice pairing

timid mango Jan 21, 2025, 4:02 PM

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also rockpon is gonna delete them birds

timid mango Jan 21, 2025, 4:03 PM

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tacit bluff regardless this team is *eh* like I get the idea but you're kinda lacking in the...

ill summarize

tacit bluff Jan 21, 2025, 4:03 PM

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kyurem already sorta beats them but the rest of the team doesn't appreciate their presence

timid mango Jan 21, 2025, 4:03 PM

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glowking > pecha

humble elk Jan 21, 2025, 4:03 PM

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tacit bluff regardless this team is *eh* like I get the idea but you're kinda lacking in the...

dont I really struggle against zamazenta without pecha?

timid mango Jan 21, 2025, 4:03 PM

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rockpon > rbolt

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why tera ice btw?

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tera ice on kyurem

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pretty sure glowking quad fresists fighting

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and kills with f sight

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you can f sight

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then pivot to kyurem

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zama has to switch

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freest ddance

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if zama stays

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u tank

tacit bluff Jan 21, 2025, 4:04 PM

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humble elk dont I really struggle against zamazenta without pecha?

you have cinderace or glowking to status it, plus ur own zama can sorta soft check it in a pinch|

you can keep pecha if the zama MU gets particularly annoying

humble elk Jan 21, 2025, 4:04 PM

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I cant really swithc into zama well without taking a big hit of damage

tacit bluff Jan 21, 2025, 4:05 PM

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alternatively cinderace>moltres and iron valiant>tusk for hazards

timid mango Jan 21, 2025, 4:05 PM

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humble elk I cant really swithc into zama well without taking a big hit of damage

slowking quad resits no?

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go to glowking

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f sight

humble elk Jan 21, 2025, 4:05 PM

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timid mango why tera ice btw?

Lets it mow through stuff harder

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like in my last game

timid mango Jan 21, 2025, 4:05 PM

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pivot to kyurem

humble elk Jan 21, 2025, 4:05 PM

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tera ice saves me

timid mango Jan 21, 2025, 4:05 PM

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bulk the (insert zama move)

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ddance

humble elk Jan 21, 2025, 4:05 PM

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timid mango slowking quad resits no?

crunch and hslam does a lot of damage

timid mango Jan 21, 2025, 4:05 PM

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pretty sure u tank

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lemme take a calc

tacit bluff Jan 21, 2025, 4:06 PM

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future sight threatens like 80% tho

shell geyser Jan 21, 2025, 4:06 PM

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New to comp pokemon any suggestions?

humble elk Jan 21, 2025, 4:06 PM

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shell geyser New to comp pokemon any suggestions?

what metagame is this?

tacit bluff Jan 21, 2025, 4:06 PM

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shell geyser New to comp pokemon any suggestions?

no clue what tier this is for but it aint gen 9 ou

timid mango Jan 21, 2025, 4:06 PM

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also

timid mango Jan 21, 2025, 4:06 PM

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humble elk crunch and hslam does a lot of damage

go for loaded dice

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it makes ice spear do way more dmg

humble elk Jan 21, 2025, 4:07 PM

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timid mango lemme take a calc

it does tank, but I'd always rather keep my glowking healthy for the specialers yk

timid mango Jan 21, 2025, 4:07 PM

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glowking gets regenerator

tacit bluff Jan 21, 2025, 4:07 PM

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humble elk I cant really swithc into zama well without taking a big hit of damage

glowking should do fine. If u rly need it do the molt over cinderace then slot tusk on for hazard control. Pecha prefers to be on slightly more aggro structures imo

timid mango Jan 21, 2025, 4:07 PM

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tank a b press

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tank a crunch

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f sight

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then switch

humble elk Jan 21, 2025, 4:07 PM

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timid mango it makes ice spear do way more dmg

yeah thats true, but nmi works with freeze dry well too

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dice is ebst on scale shot variants

shell geyser Jan 21, 2025, 4:08 PM

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humble elk what metagame is this?

OU

humble elk Jan 21, 2025, 4:08 PM

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timid mango glowking gets regenerator

Yeah but the damage def does stack, plus I honestly don't really feel its reliable in my experience

tacit bluff Jan 21, 2025, 4:08 PM

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shell geyser OU

yeah this ain't gen 9 ou

humble elk Jan 21, 2025, 4:08 PM

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shell geyser OU

annihilape is banned in ou

tacit bluff Jan 21, 2025, 4:08 PM

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mega ttar doesn't exist

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and ^^

humble elk Jan 21, 2025, 4:09 PM

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tacit bluff glowking should do fine. If u rly need it do the molt over cinderace then slot t...

I'll try glowk and rockypom

tacit bluff Jan 21, 2025, 4:09 PM

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ye try that

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see how it goes

humble elk Jan 21, 2025, 4:09 PM

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do I go sd rocky?

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oh and zama

tacit bluff Jan 21, 2025, 4:09 PM

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nah boots pivot

shell geyser Jan 21, 2025, 4:09 PM

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Oh gotcha

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Is there anything i can replace annihalipe with

tacit bluff Jan 21, 2025, 4:10 PM

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ivy cudgel (grass stab) u turn then like encore/taunt/knock off

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its up to you

humble elk Jan 21, 2025, 4:10 PM

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tacit bluff nah boots pivot

rockpon cant use boots

tacit bluff Jan 21, 2025, 4:10 PM

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right ye

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I'm tired boss lol

humble elk Jan 21, 2025, 4:10 PM

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but yeah im using knock off

tacit bluff Jan 21, 2025, 4:10 PM

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was thinking of grasspon for a sec

humble elk Jan 21, 2025, 4:10 PM

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thank u both for ur help

tacit bluff Jan 21, 2025, 4:10 PM

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np

humble elk Jan 21, 2025, 4:11 PM

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https://pokepast.es/cc0bfb0d48481d7d this what I got now

regal ginkgoBOT Jan 21, 2025, 4:11 PM

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New [Gen 9] OU RMT @north nimbus, @unkempt bough, @empty verge, @echo rampart. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

tacit bluff Jan 21, 2025, 4:11 PM

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just be careful to keep hazards off the field with rockpon tho

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you wanna make use of sturdy

humble elk Jan 21, 2025, 4:11 PM

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noted

tacit bluff Jan 21, 2025, 4:12 PM

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especially if smth like enam is tryna set up for a sweep so you can shatter it in return with ivy cudgel

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granted glowking should check it fine

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lol

timid mango Jan 21, 2025, 4:12 PM

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also bc of glowking

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your jyurem is prob gonna sweep more

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ice defence boost and safely on field

tacit bluff Jan 21, 2025, 4:12 PM

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humble elk https://pokepast.es/cc0bfb0d48481d7d this what I got now

yeah this looks better

timid mango Jan 21, 2025, 4:12 PM

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fsight cfripples any switch in

tacit bluff Jan 21, 2025, 4:12 PM

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playtest it see if you have some bad mus

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and then you can adapt accordingly

timid mango Jan 21, 2025, 4:13 PM

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also nocturne i found out my team only has a bad mu if i play bad

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granted this was 1.1k elo

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but i usually lose to crits

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or focus miss

tacit bluff Jan 21, 2025, 4:13 PM

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dawg anyone loses to crits

timid mango Jan 21, 2025, 4:13 PM

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like crit ice spear fked me

tacit bluff Jan 21, 2025, 4:13 PM

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thats not bad teambuilding thats just playing pokemon

timid mango Jan 21, 2025, 4:13 PM

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and 5 hit

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glhf

tacit bluff Jan 21, 2025, 4:14 PM

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it happens

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you kinda wanna minimise the impact of a stray crit as much as possible but sometimes it just loses you the game

timid mango Jan 21, 2025, 4:14 PM

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i just got crit and 5 hitted by a minnicho

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i would have lived..

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wait it was a cinnicho

humble elk Jan 21, 2025, 4:15 PM

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tacit bluff playtest it see if you have some bad mus

yepp thats my plan with most teams

timid mango Jan 21, 2025, 4:15 PM

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humble elk yepp thats my plan with most teams

wanna 1v1

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we both test teams

humble elk Jan 21, 2025, 4:16 PM

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alr but im in a random match rn

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ill dm u my username tho

timid mango Jan 21, 2025, 4:38 PM

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https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9ou-2285378562-rthu5fqfu26uj14rl7txxcfvim3ilpfpw

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