slowbro set seems lke it allows for ttar to 6-0 if its sub dd too kinda
#UU Rates
wispy peak
feel like u need a slowbro that can hit it here if ur gonna be using multiple mons that afford ttar a set up
wispy peak
its not something i particularly appreciate being weak to especially since dd taunt could do the same potentially anyway
just not quite as easily
when i evaluate how big of a deal dd ttar losing is i tend to just look at its set up opportunities mostly
and when u have two choiced mons that can both give easy set up and a non willo tflame
thats a lot of set up opportunities
foggy swallow
were removing gengar
for tink
i think tink shocks ice beam slowbro is solid enough into hurricane spammers
on slowbro i would run rocky helmet with surf ice beam psychic
probably
wispy peak
yea
foggy swallow
so currently its slowbro sandy shocks tinkaton cyclizar gallade
i dont know about a last mon tbh
esta do you have any ideas
oak silo
Honestly that was just me power tripping (I usually do that picking up a tier lol)
I totally get how that'd be overkill though.
Doesn't help that Gallade is one of my favorite mons so that just takes that even further.
Was mostly thinking RegenVest to Pivot around Gengar, since ik that's a big threat in the tier rn.
Also is Agillade still Jolly? Or can it afford Adamant?
Actually no scratch that Ada means you get Revenged by Scarf Geng
https://pokepast.es/434a7e8325fa25ab
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unique wren
Whats the best decidueye set in uu
foggy swallow
some varient of offensive defog is the most common one
Decidueye @ Heavy-Duty Boots
Ability: Overgrow
Tera Type: Grass
EVs: 72 HP / 252 SpA / 184 Spe
Modest Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Shadow Ball
- Leaf Storm
- Roost
- Defog
it can run physical attacking sets too
also it can just be used as a pivot
if you dont need hazard removal
narrow thicket
https://pokepast.es/3d2369f941c692c8 any feedback to improve
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lean monolith
I’d go cyclizar over mence here
av preferably
gives you hazard clearance + double Regen with mola
make tinkaton rocks
have sandy shocks be the standard pivot set
play rough over chilling water on mola
replace gastro with rest talk wo chien for better status absorbtion
foggy swallow
gengar can be specs probably
if you have cylcizar
or maybe some tspikes set
but scarf is perfectly fine too
toxic oxide
wanted to run venomoth
i dont have a hazard remover and im not sure who i should change
narrow thicket
thanks for the feedback
foggy swallow
for one venomoth kinda sucks
you only run grimmsnarl on hyper offense teams
all its meant to do is get screens and die
so its pretty mid on balance
venomoth can maybe work
i know meru had a frosmoth team that won in uupl and they are similar
this team is incredibly weak to armarouge
with 4 fire weaks a mon that dies to energy ball
so i think you getting rid of scizor is a good idea
aswell as grimm
i think like paraspam with venomoth could be pretty cool
so make tinkaton twave over encore
and maybe swap gastro for slowbro with twave slack off psychic surf
in terms of not having hazard control i think that decidueye could work nicely over wo chien
it can knock off tink n stuff
aswell as defog
and in the last slots i think pivot sandy shocks with tera ground and spikes earth power volt switch tbolt
and talonflame with flare blitz taunt u turn and roost
could be good as the last mons
foggy swallow
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toxic oxide
ooh ok ok i see
toxic oxide
for one venomoth kinda sucks
venomoth isnt the best and its pretty outclassed by oricorio as a qd sweeper but tinted lens + sleep powder differentiates it
you could choose between bug buzz or sludge bomb but being walled by the most common mon kinda sucks
you could also run morning sun over sub if you wanted
toxic oxide
when coming up with the original team i was focusing on having a good mu against rain (see physdef wochien)
i also think parting shot would be pretty good but grafaiai isnt great in the current meta unfortunately
foggy swallow
slowbro and decidueye should be fine vs rain
toxic oxide
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foggy swallow
toxic oxide
ty
twilit harbor
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i like this team alot actually
i think it would be cool if you went boots tspikes gren and scarf hex gengar but thats definitely not neccesary
i would run draco meteor instead of overheat on cyclizar
and probably go max spdef hippowdon because its your best hurricane switchin
the last thing is focus blast > energy ball on gengar
good work looks like a nice team
twilit harbor
i like this team alot actually
Even tho you did lose to heavy duty boots Pelipper, your changes are alright ig…
foggy swallow
sullen basin
LOL
twilit harbor
the last thing is focus blast > energy ball on gengar
You told me to do this so I wouldn’t hit your donphan
hybrid vapor
let's keep the arguments to a minimum; i'd go with qob's recommendations regardless of whatever happened in this match thats being talked about
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hybrid vapor
shut UPP
foggy swallow
plop the discord mod
dim arrow
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https://pokepast.es/f1af5a9a16a5afde
honestly im not too high on specs gren, and other mons here like forre/dd mence/peli dont seem to be good fits for this either
i would recommend using a diff gren set (stabs/uturn/tspikes for starters), and figuring out what to use from there; for example, you could switch out forre for a spinner like cyclizar, and peli for a ground type instead, etc
dense sedge
https://pokepast.es/f1af5a9a16a5afde
yeah like sulo mentioned, replacing forretress with another spinner is for the best (as forretress is just a bad UU mon in general)
foggy swallow
what i would do
is i would make gren tspikes u turn grass knot hydro pump
with boots
swap forretress for assault vest donphan (the smogon set)
(keeps a spinner and gives you a ground type + knock off)
i would also swap tflame for scream tail so you can have some wish support
make salamence the special attacking set with tera water
and swap pelipper to sd scizor
the sd u turn one
so to sum up
pelipper > scizor
forre > donphan
talon > scream tail
mence > special attacking set
do what sulo said with greninja
maybe tera ghost wo chien is a good idea too
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forre > donphan
talon > scream tail
mence > special attackin...
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dense sedge
https://pokepast.es/dc627a9f5fd22d0f
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wispy peak
definitely put stealth rock > tbolt on sandy shocks if ur not running spikes since ttar wont rly wanna clikc them anywya
kill the attack from cyclizar and just invest it into ur bulk too
ur slowbro would probably appreciate some spdef on this to handle mence better too so u dont have to rely too much on cyc / ttar (since one of htem gets draco'd and the other doesnt have passive recovery at all)
appreciate it more if slowbro can at least contest it a bit and punish non hurricane clicks a bit more
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what would a good ev spread be for slowbro with special defense investment (248/60 def /200 Special defense?)
wispy peak
not got one on hand but u can just play around with it while giving like break point benchmarks to ur slowbro etc like 96 bold etc
might wanna check for some relevant 2hkos from like ttar and the like while ur doing it
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what are break points?
wispy peak
just investments that give +2 in a stat instead of +1 when you have a positive nature
so 16+, 56+, 96+ all do it etc
dense sedge
https://pokepast.es/1c24bc154a7b41e3 with edits
foggy swallow
youve kinda made half of a hyper offense team
but then theres a tinkaton lol
i think swap gengar for oricorio pompom
and swap tink for polteeagiest
and swap brick break for taunt/spirit break on grimm
generally specs mons arent so good on hyper offense teams because being locked into your moves give your opponent opportunities
the idea with pompom and polteagiest is that they both can weaken tinkaton and tyranitar for eachother
honest quiver
Ok thx
(Was sleeping so could not see it earlier)
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lean monolith
I’d fix the decidueye spread
to physical defog
Decidueye @ Heavy-Duty Boots
Ability: Long Reach
Tera Type: Fairy
EVs: 252 HP / 184 Def / 56 SpD / 16 Spe
Careful Nature
- Leaf Blade
- Knock Off
- Defog
- Roost
u-turn over taunt in tflame
lean monolith
I don’t really like slither wing tbh
wispy peak
slither seems fine on this
hoary lily
I like it
wispy peak
dont like the double choices though
lean monolith
boots is so much better
wispy peak
i woulda kept cb and done wild charge myself probably since u rly do kinda appreciate talon going bye on this
lean monolith
with taunt over u-turn
wispy peak
if u cant keep up rocks or it teras idt thats enough
but yea pads wild charge also works
foggy swallow
fair
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foggy swallow
this seems okay at first glance
i think scizor should be running u turn bullet punch close combat swords dance
with heavy duty boots and tera fire
instead of the current set
on sandy shocks instead of runnign power gem you can swap that for sstealth rock
swap donphan for gastrodon i think
sullen basin
imo choose a lead, phan / gren both work
foggy swallow
with stealth rock recover ice beam earth power
and hevay duty boots
i think run decidueye over talonflame with defog roost leaf storm shadow ball
and the gren is fine but run heavy duty boots with ice beam u turn hydro pump grass knot instead
to sum up
donphan -> gastrodon
scizor -> boots tera fire set with cc/bp/sd/u-turn
talonflame -> decidueye
greninja -> boots set with gk/hydro/ice beam.u turn
sandy shocks -> run spikes over power gem
yeah thats not worth it
scarlet yew
Don't worry about them
No one aside from HO runs screens
And no one runs HO unless it's psy/rain
foggy swallow
people still run regular ho for sure
robust pecan
https://pokepast.es/b8af454b38876d57
First time getting back into the metagame after a few months. How does this look?
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strange charm
Hi
I need help on how to improve the UU team:
https://pokepast.es/79563b8d1096ebae
I'm having problems with Wo-Chien atm, and maybe Salamence and Tinkaton
foggy swallow
https://pokepast.es/b8af454b38876d57
First time getting back into the metagame a...
this looks good but i would be running special mence with tera water 
strange charm
this looks good but i would be running special mence with tera water <:blobthum...
You mean replacing it with Talonflame?
foggy swallow
i am talking about the other persons team
strange charm
Oh sorry
foggy swallow
your team is a bit weak to scizor
i think make talonflame taunt flare blitz roost u turn
robust pecan
this looks good but i would be running special mence with tera water <:blobthum...
Any particular set or just go with the smogon set?
foggy swallow
smogon set works fine
foggy swallow
i think make talonflame taunt flare blitz roost u turn
your sandy shocks is tera ice but its not running terablast? i think either swap tbolt for terablast or make sandy tera ground
i think gastrodon should be tera ghost because you have a big problem with quaquaval right now
strange charm
i think gastrodon should be tera ghost because you have a big problem with quaqu...
I chose Tera electric atm because I thought I needed a hard counter against rain mons like Pelipper
foggy swallow
i think you do alright into rain mons with cyclizar and shocks and gastro
strange charm
I just realised that ghost resists bug and poison
So ghost might be better
I am still concerned with the likes of Wo-Chien and Tinkaton
The former being really annoying
U-turn only deals like 46% damage
foggy swallow
with tera ice shocks and cyclizar it should be manageable
strange charm
What could Cylizar do against Wo-Chien?
strange charm
Oh yeah good point
hybrid vapor
lets you pressure it with hazards much much more
also you do have ice beam gren to sort of lure it anyways
and yea like qob said tera ice shocks works wonders vs grasses in general too
strange charm
I think i find it annoying because Wo-Chien can be annoying with knock off
hybrid vapor
it does look a little annoying yea i agree
something is guaranteed to lose a valuable item here
strange charm
For me it's always Talonflame
Cause I keep thinking that Talonflame can hold it off with Brave Bird + Roost
strange charm
i think make talonflame taunt flare blitz roost u turn
Regarding Flare Blitz, wouldn't Scizor counter with Tera Fire to ensure it resists fire attacks and immune to burns?
Unless I can counter the Tera back with Sandy Shocks
foggy swallow
you can taunt it and u turn to sandy shocks
strange charm
Would it be easier if I u-turned first, then has Sandy Shocks use Earth power
(In case it has Trailblaze)
foggy swallow
that would work too
strange charm
@foggy swallow
Thanks for your feedback
Here's the updated team: https://pokepast.es/c65c8c77c3434178
I decided to not have Tera Ice Blast on Sandy Shocks because it doesn't deal enough damage on Wo-Chien
That being said, I was wondering whether it's better to have Tera Steel on Scizor to boost Scizor's Bullet Punch even further
foggy swallow
sandy is tera grass
i think that you should be running terablast ice probably
and keep tera fire methinks
robust pecan
Would you suggest that for me as well? My shocks is tera grass currently
strange charm
i think that you should be running terablast ice probably
Should I replace with thunderbolt then?
Still concerned considering it only deals 1/3 damage to Wo-Chien.
foggy swallow
Would you suggest that for me as well? My shocks is tera grass currently
yeah that would be good
strange charm
it deals like half
252 SpA Tera Ice Sandy Shocks Tera Blast vs. 252 HP / 252+ SpD Wo-Chien: 146-174 (39 - 46.5%) -- guaranteed 3HKO after Leftovers recovery
That's the calculation I got when using Wo-Chien's spread in the LeechSeed set
Unless Wo-Chien normally runs in physical defense
strange charm
I see, I assumed the spread would be based from the one on the Smogon site: https://www.smogon.com/dex/sv/pokemon/wo-chien/
lean monolith
leech seed is garbage anyway
foggy swallow
wellll
not garbage but rest talk is broken
theres opportunity cost for not using the really good one
mystic walrus
leech seed is also terrible for the wo-chien mirror lmao
mystic walrus
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Here's the updated team: https:/...
also personally I like sludge bomb a bit more on gastro over ice beam but both are valid. It's mostly relevant for ur florges/sylveon/scream MU and this team can have a tough time against fairy-zone teams since ur scizor has a heavy burden of being ur go to answer.
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also personally I like sludge bomb a bit more on gastro over ice beam but both a...
That's actually a good point
I thought ice Beam can deal with grass types and Salamence, but Greninja has ice Beam as well
mystic walrus
well sludge bomb would fulfill the same thing against grass types and poison status is huge as it can burn through mence's roost pp and the fairies would have to burn through wish a lot more and not be able to cm up (more relevant for florges/sylveon)
strange charm
Would it be better then to have Tera Poison instead of Tera Ghost for Gastrodon?
It would boost up the power for Sludge Bomb.
mystic walrus
U can but u also don't really have any other spin blocker on ur team. If ur doing tera poison it should be for poison/toxic immunity but the stab bonus on sludge can be nice too
It really is a matter of how much u value keeping ur hazards up or if u value not having to deal with toxic
strange charm
I think it's more of the former that I am concerned with (keeping hazards up)
So I'll go ahead with ghost
unique wren
rate this team that im not finished
https://pokepast.es/9d8b545e6b3bbb0d
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hybrid vapor
we only rate finished teams; as a disclaimer though, specs kilo and lo lokix arent exactly that good
hybrid vapor
id recommend using a different kilowattrel set (one with roost > air slash and hurricane > thunderbolt) and going from there (probably without lokix as well since i dont think that has much synergy with kilowattrel)
hybrid vapor
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looks like the same one
foggy swallow
unique wren
looks like the same one
bruh i sent the wrong oen
toxic oxide
https://pokepast.es/bf03e11cbb9e9ffd thoughts?
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toxic oxide
wanted to build around pawmot but didnt know what to include
foggy swallow
this seems good i like it
just a few things i would change
run boots sd u turn bullet punch close combat scizor
tera fire
i dont think choice band is very good
and you dont have a very good win con as of right now
toxic oxide
i ran into that issue while testing
foggy swallow
i also think that sandy shocks should be running stealth rocks instead of tbolt and scream tail should be running encore instead oif stealth rocks
foggy swallow
good plan
and some small things but you only need 176 speed on cyclizar
and you should be running 104 special attack to ohko mence with draco
also its running max attack right now???
run 176 speed or 180 to speed creep other cyclizar, 104 spatck and the rest in hp
and the scream tail only really needs to outspeed iron jugulis
you get to run some defense then
and run tera ground
for pawmot
toxic oxide
also its running max attack right now???
LOL yeah i think i wasnt thinking and just clicked the automatic one on showdown when making the cyclizar set
foggy swallow
lol fair
foggy swallow
what does ground do
electric immunity is just a bit better also resists lycanroc which might sometimes come in handy
toxic oxide
either i get walled by grass types or i get walled by gastrodon
foggy swallow
it kills mence
gastro super doesnt wall you
you 2hko with close combat
you 2hko quag aswell with some chip
i think ice punch is better yeah
foggy swallow
because decidueye exists now aswell as mence being a bitch
foggy swallow
no problem have fun
rancid pine
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rapid heron
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rapid heron
Made this team on a whim and wanted to get some feedback from some more knowledgeable players,
foggy swallow
okay
forretress is a pretty shitty pokemon
there are better steel types and there are better rapid spinners
it has "good role compression" but it doesnt do any of its jobs very well
swap forre --> tinkaton
rapid heron
i like the extra damage from life orb. i would run booster energy but i would have to make the evs wonky
hybrid vapor
lo unnecessarily wears it down which is not good for something that can take hits in a pinch vs stuff like choiced gengar
foggy swallow
^
hybrid vapor
also means people can pivot around it much more easily
rapid heron
true, but i also the versatility of iron jugs move pool and would like use it on the fly
rapid heron
maybe boots
foggy swallow
it doesnt need the extra power its strong enough and its coverage is great
rapid heron
true
foggy swallow
run u turn though
rapid heron
would i still want the bike boy if i have boots?
foggy swallow
yeah
i think hydro jugulis is cool
like hurricane earth power hydro seems like it would be a good set
because the most common switchins to jugulis are bulky grounds
but i guess you flop into gastrodon still
nevermind
hybrid vapor
its good for like hippo but i cant remember what else it hits
if anything else at all
rapid heron
not often you see hydro and flamethrower on a mon
rapid heron
i was also thinking about trying a revamped bulky team i made a while back
it wasnt that good but it was pretty fun
it's very weak to ground but i enough the really bulky mons like mr. snail and t-tar
foggy swallow
one team at a time maybe
foggy swallow
okay for the first one
i think maushold -> av cyclizar
forre -> tinkaton
jugulis -> boots
the pawmot set is very odd
and i dont really like it
i think you should run mach punch -> seed bomb and rest -> revival blessing and nat cure
this team doesnt have a ground type
which is a bad thing
rapid heron
im guessing ground is king in UU?
foggy swallow
nope just electric immunities are always very important
in every metagame
sandy shocks is a top mon too
and blocking its volt switches is nice
rapid heron
so hippo maybe, possibly sandy
foggy swallow
espeon is a bad pokemon pretty much, i think it could be swapped out for a ground type
maybe gastrodon/hippo
spdef hippo seems good here
although sand might be annoying
you could run gastrodon and not run slowbro
if you want
i think that would be better
rapid heron
iron defense with body press and stored power would catch people off guard ngl
foggy swallow
maybe but catching people off guard doesnt make it good neccesarily
rapid heron
but gastro is probs better
i just think slowbro is funny
gastro has way less weaknesses
foggy swallow
slowbro is fine but i dont think its needed here
i think the last pokemon needs to deal with physdef hippowdon
actually
scizor is scary right now
sorry i have to go now
rancid pine
https://pokepast.es/766a8b2f1855b7b2
Lokix Scizor team that aims to lure and kill shit like talonflame and rotom heat so scizor can come in and sweep. Blissey works rll well so does talon, im iffy on the spinners but ik i need two. Tried donphan, willing to try again
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ill look in a bit
hybrid vapor
okay so, id say the main issues with this are the somewhat suboptimal moveset choices and somewhat of a lack of synergy between the mons here (tera water tera blast lokix is kinda not good and doesnt hit much, especially if your targets were mons like talon and heattom because those kinda just die to tera fighting axe kick; air slash talonflame is a lot weaker than brave bird, and this can also just be defog so that you don't need to run double hazard removal, which is already suboptimal on its own too here imo)
for starters id recommend using a different talonflame set like i mentioned
rancid pine
Ok
hybrid vapor
Ability: Flame Body
Tera Type: Ghost
EVs: 248 HP / 8 Def / 252 Spe
Jolly Nature
- Brave Bird
- Will-O-Wisp
- Defog
- Roost```this would work fine; tera ghost lets you remove rocks weakness, spinblock, and beat mons like lucario and maushold in a pinch
rancid pine
Thanks
This also frees quaguaval and tsareena although i like donphan here
Is my blissey fine? Its saved my butt around 3 million times
hybrid vapor
the blissey seems really odd to me
copycat doesnt serve much of a general purpose i feel and makes it really awkward to fit a rocker
i would personally go hippowdon over it so you're safer vs mons like kilowattrel and jugulis because those can end up pivoting around you forever
rancid pine
copycat doesnt serve much of a general purpose i feel and makes it really awkwar...
Grabs momentum on sandy shocks and peli pivots
Mirrors hazards
Beats toxic quagsire
But yeah i like hippo a lot
hybrid vapor
hippowdon can annoy peli and shocks pretty well + sets hazards on its own as well
rancid pine
Im really good with hippo
rancid pine
Like i peaked ndmono with ground
hybrid vapor
most people arent really high on tsareena atm since it can end up just being somewhat of a momentum sink against a lot of common mons and doesnt serve much of a purpose compared to stuff like wo chien
rancid pine
Dosent sand stream do more harm than good?
hybrid vapor
sand stream is fine for the most part here
especially if you replace tsareena w smth else here
it only really like
hurts lokix a bit but otherwise its not the worst thing in the world
rancid pine
rancid pine
make sure talon is max speed
Isnt underspeexing good for scouting?
hybrid vapor
talon's bulk isn't as good to the point where it can afford to stay in on a lot to scout
- scouting w roost can be bad bc you have limited pp
hybrid vapor
team looks like it needs a water resist, so i think a slowbro would be appreciated here, since that also checks tauros and quaq for sciz
rancid pine
What set?
hybrid vapor
ill get some sets
hybrid vapor
ngl i dont use the mon that much so my set might not be the best either LOL
hybrid vapor
Ability: Regenerator
Tera Type: Fairy
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Def / 4 SpD
Bold Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Iron Defense
- Body Press
- Surf
- Slack Off
Slowbro @ Rocky Helmet
Ability: Regenerator
Tera Type: Fairy
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Def / 4 SpD
Bold Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Calm Mind
- Surf
- Psyshock
- Slack Off```
these two are fineimo
hybrid vapor
or a utility set like that yeah
stabs twave slack off
anything works as long as it helps you beat the mons i mentioned
hybrid vapor
yeah talonflame covers sciz well enough unless its tera fire, but at that point smth else should be good to revenge kill it
rancid pine
hybrid vapor
make sure its tera fairy
the dark/dragon resist can be useful for getting a twave off against mons like mence and jugs
rancid pine
My main reasons for tera water on lokix
Beats gigaton tink
Beats scizor
Dosent risk flame body
Beats donphan
rancid pine
make sure its tera fairy
Oops
hybrid vapor
yeah thinking about it that set sounds cool
rancid pine
Also
hybrid vapor
was gonna recommend it to be changed but it might work!
hybrid vapor
also i would probably make hippowdon helmet too with tera rock or ghost and stone edge as well so that you bait talon and kilowattrel for sciz/lokix
rancid pine
Ok
Should i use a grass type?
My worst mus rn are
Tinkaton
Terablast sandy
And gastrodon
rancid pine
Oh yeah hippo
hybrid vapor
is a good fit for a last
hybrid vapor
since tera grass sandy looks rlly difficult without a pivot to get lokix in
oh yeah
decidueye is like
pretty good atm
rancid pine
Ooh!
rancid pine
since tera grass sandy looks rlly difficult without a pivot to get lokix in
I was scared of it
Roost shackle leaf blade turn?
Lefties?
hybrid vapor
Ability: Long Reach
Tera Type: Normal
EVs: 248 HP / 8 Def / 252 SpD
Sassy Nature
- Leaf Storm
- Knock Off
- U-turn
- Roost```
doesnt have to be exactly this set, you can tweak it to how you want it to beyou want knock for sure
removing boots from talon/tink is pretty huge
er
not boots from tink
but yeah
rancid pine
I have no rocks…
hybrid vapor
hippo!
rancid pine
Ok
hybrid vapor
sciz can be tera fire for opposing talon by the way
rancid pine
sciz can be tera fire for opposing talon by the way
Steel is rll good
Ans i have two talon lures lol
rancid pine
🫂
hybrid vapor
foggy swallow
i think it would be better if decidueye was defog and talonflame was u turn
also if slowbro was ice beam because mence seems annoying
and twave doesnt accomplish much imo
lokix can be adamant
and this terablast set is wierd
i think if you want to ohko talonflame just go tera fighting
since tera fighting axe kick koes
rancid pine
I explained the other reasoning
foggy swallow
then you get to run dark stab too
rancid pine
Ill consider switching the defog and tuen
foggy swallow
i think defog talonflame is bad because it loses to all the ground type rockers and spikers
rancid pine
killing hippowdon
Hippo, rotom heat, donphan, no flame body talon, rain, and resisting scizor bullet punch and tink gigaton. Also sheds weaknesses
rancid pine
lokix can be adamant
Outspeeds a lot especially rotom heat which normally is a problem
foggy swallow
i think deci should outspeed ttar
rancid pine
Thats a lot…
foggy swallow
its alright though
rancid pine
Dosent that lose a lot of bulk
foggy swallow
its definitely worth it
rancid pine
Calm?
foggy swallow
uh + spdef - attack
rancid pine
and twave doesnt accomplish much imo
This is true
rancid pine
uh + spdef - attack
Thats calm
foggy swallow
cool then
rancid pine
Twaves a temporary slowdown at best
So
Ill use ice beam
Im sticking with talon as fog and deci as pivot but im down to change
I hope i explained tera blast
And jolly for rotom and bc adamant isnt that needed
foggy swallow
Im sticking with talon as fog and deci as pivot but im down to change
please do change it
foggy swallow
i think defog talonflame is bad because it loses to all the ground type rockers ...
.
rancid pine
Ok
hybrid vapor
i agree with qobs changes, i think the sets i added were a bit middling so they can help you optimize the team further
foggy swallow
🙂
rancid pine
hug
This team is great
I just somehow beat psyspam
Without slowbro bc fuck energy ball armarouge
rancid pine
https://pokepast.es/cac6f31001ca6be9
@foggy swallow @hybrid vapor this decidueye aint workin
The evs
Deci cant live hits and ive been able to deal with max speed ttar
Or its jolly or tera flying and i die anyways
Also i wish so bad i could run jolly scizor but i need adamant
hybrid vapor
what hits in particular are you struggling to take
rancid pine
I can’t specifically remember
Physical hits in general
Oh yeah lokix against greninja is a losing game of cat and mouse
hybrid vapor
you should usually be able to take hits well as long as they're resisted / not from very strong pokemon like tauros shocks and similar mons
unless shocks teras but thats better for you anyways
rancid pine
186 physdef hell nah
hybrid vapor
decid generally either outspeeds the bulkier mons (slowbro, quag, hippo, donphan, alom) or it cant invest enough (or needs max) to outspeed others (scream tail, cyc)
rancid pine
So im thinkibg like 8
hybrid vapor
the speed is just for ttar but honestly id just run leaf blade at that point because im pretty sure storm does less in sand
rancid pine
the speed is just for ttar but honestly id just run leaf blade at that point bec...
Ttars not a hard mu
hybrid vapor
yea that mu looks fine
rancid pine
So what evs
hybrid vapor
i would probs just run a bit of speed creep if the bulk isnt working out (like 8 speed) and rest in spdef/physdef to your liking (preferably spdef for shocks)
rancid pine
i would probs just run a bit of speed creep if the bulk isnt working out (like 8...
Can i run mixed bulk
hybrid vapor
sure, i dont have any calcs in mind for specific mons but i think thats fine
rancid pine
sure, i dont have any calcs in mind for specific mons but i think thats fine
K
Would it be a waste to run 252 defense but a plus spdef nature
hybrid vapor
yea id much rather just run calm with mixed def and not full physdef
rancid pine
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hybrid vapor
team looks fine imo
though i would probs make hippo physdef for pawmot
hm actually. nvm
rancid pine
Now how do i beat greninja
hybrid vapor
non grass type wo chien / non steel type tink teams can struggle a bit into wo chien, you would have to make talon fog and go wo chien > decid if you wanna have some counterplay
otherwise it just comes to pivoting and giving it less and less chances to come in w pressure
hybrid vapor
i would prefer a spdef spread myself but idt much changes vs the special attackers you beat anyways besides worse rolls vs stuff like shocks and cyc, etc
rancid pine
Id say wochien sounds tempting but
U turn talon is insanely good
Wochien dosent have recovery, especially considering i have hippo sand digging my own bulk
hybrid vapor
gimme a few mins
rancid pine
Also i struggle vs slowbro
And what nature do i give scizor
Sorry
Im asking too much
hybrid vapor
Ability: Tablets of Ruin
Tera Type: Ghost
EVs: 252 HP / 196 Def / 60 SpD
Careful Nature
- Knock Off
- Foul Play
- Rest
- Sleep Talk```
this avoids a 2hko from tera ice shocks's tera blastknock is basically necessary on wo chien
hybrid vapor
you need foul play to reliably beat physical setup sweepers (gyara hax etc)
rancid pine
```Wo-Chien @ Leftovers
Ability: Tablets of Ruin
Tera Type: Ghost
EVs: 252...
After rocks?
hybrid vapor
yes
rancid pine
Wbout specs gren ice beam
This?
hybrid vapor
i dont know but if its prot it presumably 2hkoes i think
hybrid vapor
also like, theres a lot of random physical setup sweepers on ladder like maus and dd mence that foul play chien will save your life vs
rancid pine
Ok
hybrid vapor
ill calc in a bit
rancid pine
252 SpA Life Orb Protean Greninja Ice Beam vs. 252 HP / 60+ SpD Wo-Chien: 218-260 (58.2 - 69.5%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Leftovers recovery
Aaaaaaaa
Thats… not worth it
Can you verify this
Whole team
The talon
hybrid vapor
ok sorry ive just been multitasking but ill get to it soon!!
rancid pine
You good! Tysm for taking time out of your day to help me 😊
hybrid vapor
You good! Tysm for taking time out of your day to help me 😊
alright, i think a simple fix would be spdef rocks gastro > hippowdon here without ripping the team apart
also i think ada sciz is fine
rancid pine
Why not hippo
Oh wait
But gastros muuuuuuuch less bulky
Physdef hippo has 100 more
I have to go sleep, tomorrow? Thanks so much again hug
hybrid vapor
I have to go sleep, tomorrow? Thanks so much again *hug*
mhm, np! and i think the gastro version is better (but dont use tera ice gastro its kinda bad)
strange charm
What are some reliable, solid counters for Wo-Chien?
I feel like it's impossible to wear it down without u-turn
foggy swallow
cyclizar does pretty well into it
also like
your own wo chien.
lol
slither wing with morning sun checks it well
just applying alot of offensive pressure in general
scarlet yew
Wo-Chien vs Wo-Chien seems like an insufferable mu
strange charm
Would Greninja be able to handle Wo-chien with u-turn?
foggy swallow
eh
it cant come in without being knocked
and it doesnt like losing boots or being chipped
strange charm
You mentioned that Cyclizar can be effective against Wo-Chien
I assume with knock off , then u-turn
foggy swallow
yeah
and it doesnt mind losing av so much
in most matchups
also has regenerator
strange charm
Actually, are you able to rate teams atm?
foggy swallow
yeah if you want
strange charm
Here's my team so far: https://pokepast.es/5856ba776366eec5
My win rate is pretty inconsistent atm
I think maybe the problem is that I don't have a good team against Fighting Types, Wo-Chien and maybe Salamence (Tera-Water)
I was thinking Greninja doesn't provide that much to the team
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strange charm
I heard that Wo-Chien or Brambleghast can be a good core teammate with Gastrodon and Talonflame
foggy swallow
i like this alot actually
i think you can be tera ice sandy shocks because you struggle with opposing decidueye a bit
swap tbolt for terablast
and i think you should be tera fire scizor
and probably close combat over u turn
or over trailblaze
i think every scizor needs cc though
strange charm
What would Scizor need cc for?
strange charm
I thought the only mon that wants to tera steel is Salamence
Who can beat Scizor with Flamethrower
strange charm
What's tera fire for?
I was thinking that Talonflame might give it a problem with Will-O-Wisp, but can't I have Gastrodon, Sandy Shocks or even Cyclizar take it?
lean monolith
Tera fire is to be immune to flame body/wisp
and tflame can’t check you at all really
because its defense is really carried by flame body
strange charm
Ok
Should I have Scizor replace Trailblaze with Close Combat
I think I still should have u-turn, at least with Wo-Chien,
I can't solely rely on Cyclizar, when I just realised that most of my teammates are actually hampered by Wo-Chien
strange charm
I think i still need u-turn for Wo-chien
Plus, greninja has already grass coverage in grass knot
rancid pine
Trailblaze functions way differently its much more than grass coverage
strange charm
Then again, since Scizor is a late-game cleaner, it might not need u-turn...
rancid pine
It lets you sweep waaaaaaay easier
rancid pine
Also just speed being nice
rancid pine
Outspeeding stuff or other priority is amazing
rancid pine
https://pokepast.es/8ba131fe54e2ac33
Or
https://pokepast.es/087bb2cc28754efa
@foggy swallow
strange charm
Yeah that makes more sense
strange charm
@rancid pine
I was wondering whether I should replace Greninja with something that can deal well against fighting types
That seems to be the issue I am currently facing, I think
foggy swallow
what fighters are you struggling with
rancid pine
Im not an official rmt, i just wanted to chime in about scizor
foggy swallow
tera ghost is best methinks
strange charm
what fighters are you struggling with
Well..
I think it's mons that in theory that Gastrodon would do ok against but in practice only decently
Like Quaquaval etc.
Plus, I'm relying on one mon to do everything, in conjunction with setting up spikes
Then there are others like Tera Water Salamence and Wo-Chien
That being said, what do you think is the biggest threat to team
strange charm
And maybe Pawmot (in thoery, i haven't actually faced one yet)
foggy swallow
that does seem like a toiugh mu
but with gastrodon you can stop them from speed boosting right
so you can not let them speed boost then go into something that can force it out like talonflame
just make sure to preserve your gastrodon into duck mu's
strange charm
I feel like I'm relying on Gastrodon too much to handle the duck
Plus, Can't the duck use close combat to take it out
There also might be other mons too, like Pawmot, Slither Wing
foggy swallow
slither should be fine with tera ghosts + talon
strange charm
What if I could use an actual ghost mon for my team
I don't want it to rely on Tera too much
foggy swallow
its just gengar or mmq
and they have really poor defensive utility
actually
deci helps with the uh
pawmot and quaq problems
strange charm
Sorry, what's mmq?
strange charm
What about Brambleghast?
It might do better with Fighting Types thanks to Strength Sap, immune to Hurricane
This was the set I used
Brambleghast @ Heavy-Duty Boots
Ability: Wind Rider
Tera Type: Ghost
EVs: 252 HP / 220 Def / 36 Spe
Impish Nature
- Rapid Spin
- Strength Sap
- Shadow Sneak
- Power Whip
I didn't run spikes because Gasto had it
foggy swallow
bramble is sorta likde decidueye but worse
strange charm
What would be a good set for Decidueye?
foggy swallow
Decidueye @ Heavy-Duty Boots
Ability: Long Reach
Tera Type: Poison
EVs: 248 HP / 76 SpD / 184 Spe
Careful Nature
- Leaf Blade
- Knock Off
- Defog
- Roost
this is what i have been runnign
strange charm
Should I replace U-turn with defog
Thing is that I have Gastrodon and shocks setting up hazards, and defog may be counterproductive
foggy swallow
uh i think its still fine
just only use defog when you need to
and youll be fine
you can use cyclizar to spinblock your opponent sometimes
which is nice
strange charm
Just one more question
If I was willing to use Tera ghost on Gastrodon, is there a better mon I can use on my team to replace with ?
twilit harbor
Slowbro
For quaq/rain check
Tbh gastrodon is kinda crap at being a rain check and sucks at being a quaq check and sucks at being special wall
Barra claps it with cc
Quaq claps it with +2 ice spinner
And gengar/iron jugulis just flinch/spdef drop
twilit harbor
Bruh
twilit harbor
Wochien sucks
That’s just blatantly incorrect
Wait
Nvm
I didn’t realize who you pinged
rancid pine
rancid pine
I didn’t realize who you pinged
Ye lol im talking bout my team
Youre good though
Im thinking av ttar, it blanket checks a lot, gets foul play and edgequake, only problem is no recovery
Also im probs gonna drop ice beam on slowbro for thunderbolt
Nvm it dosent get bolt
Grass knot?
Twave?
Foul play?
foggy swallow
wo chien is good
strange charm
Hey guys
Sorry for responding late, I had to go to sleep
You guys have given me a lot of thought with fighting resists, Slowbro vs Gastrodon, the great Wo-Chien etc.
Thanks @foggy swallow @rancid pine @twilit harbor for your help
rancid pine
Np!
strange charm
Wo-Chien can be a good special wall/mix wall right?
I think problem with Gastrodon is that it doesn't resist special moves like Hurricane, Draco Meteor etc.
hybrid vapor
it is a fine mixed wall yeah
tranquil rivet
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tranquil rivet
new to teambuilding, and put this together
strange charm
Teambuilding is harder than I thought
hybrid vapor
https://pokepast.es/e0a9d7f7a9e8d4ff
make heattom a talon imo, ground immune that isnt cucked by random mold breaker + generally more reliable pivot than heattom here. with that i would def go av cyc > gengar since it forces in similar mons to gengar and you can run uturn safely on talon; also provides a buffer against stuff like shocks if tera grass and gengar
novel merlin
https://pokepast.es/8ba3de3c45913efb how does this look?
strange charm
I have a quick question about SV UU Scizor
Is the Swords Dance set the superior option?
Or does it depend in the context of the team
foggy swallow
sd is almost always better imo
safe flax
Asked my friend about my team, she called me cringe.
Is it really that bad??
https://pokepast.es/5caffa31d6b0a780
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queen relic
https://pokepast.es/1d20795908810e3c can someone help me to improve this team?
strange charm
sd is almost always better imo
Does the SD set have to be a late game cleaner (like only use it on the intention that it's not going to switch out)?
twilit harbor
Huh
rancid pine
https://pokepast.es/1d20795908810e3c can someone help me to improve this team?
Arm has 25 speed evs not 252
https://pokepast.es/360c7b590fffeb2f
@hybrid vapor @foggy swallow
queen relic
Arm has 25 speed evs not 252
Lol it must be missclick
Ignore it lmao
I think the solution for this team is adding defensive pokemon, but I don't know which ones
rancid pine
maybe ill rate this a bit later
Oki
scarlet yew
I think the solution for this team is adding defensive pokemon, but I don't know...
Big problem is
You have a Grimmsnarl
Grimmsnarls are rare outside of HO
You could probably drop it for a defensive mon and be happy
scarlet yew
and change slowbro for gastrodon maybe?
I think Slowbro can tank rain well enough
queen relic
yeah, but sandy sucks...
scarlet yew
I think Slowbro can tank rain well enough
Also he doesn't immediately fold to a Golduck Grass Knot unlike Gastro
So you could Future Sight then revenge kill
At least I hope Future Sight works on switch out
scarlet yew
https://pokepast.es/1d20795908810e3c can someone help me to improve this team?
I think you can switch that Flamethrower for an Ice Beam
And Trick Room with Slack Off
No idea how well Swords Dance Lokix works but I don't think he'd work in a team like this anyway
So go Leech Life ig
And I don't really think you need Specs on Sandy
He hits hard enough normally
Just go for Boots you should be more worried about not losing him
scarlet yew
https://pokepast.es/1d20795908810e3c can someone help me to improve this team?
I just realized you have Life Orb on Slowbro
Don't do that please
Honestly overall my best advice for you is to just follow the sample sets
You can start experimenting when you've actually got a feel of the game
And Trick Room rarely works outside of Doubles
strange charm
I was wondering whether SV UU has good special walls (outside of Gasto)
scarlet yew
I was wondering whether SV UU has good special walls (outside of Gasto)
Wo-Chien:
Tyrannitar
Scream Tail maybe?
I never use her
She doesn't seem very good for only resisting psychic and fighting
Tinkaton is pretty good
plucky raptor
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plucky raptor
This is my first team for UU in a while
I've played a few games and although I like parts of it I feel like i'm missing something
Could I ask for what the main flaws are and how I could improve the team
foggy swallow
https://pokepast.es/1d20795908810e3c can someone help me to improve this team?
grimmsnarl seems very random here
grimmsnarl is only decent on hyper offense teams
and even there, there are better screens setters
let me know what you were trying to build around
and maybe i can help you then
right now im not sure what direction you want it to go in
foggy swallow
https://pokepast.es/74d1d3afe1a7deb1
sadly bisharp isnt very good
i think it would be much better if you replaced it with scizor
just use the smogon set called "swords dance"
i dont like your cyclizar set. i think you should be running something like this:
Cyclizar @ Assault Vest
Ability: Regenerator
Tera Type: Ghost
EVs: 224 HP / 104 SpA / 180 Spe
Hasty Nature
- Knock Off
- Draco Meteor
- Rapid Spin
- U-turn
the sandy shocks set is fine
just run heavy duty boots over soft sand
you might want to consider running terablast ice instead of thunderbolt aswell
because it seems like you may face troubles with opposing decidueye
i think the talonflame set is all good
we can keep the specs decidueye, i think its a pretty good set actually
Decidueye @ Choice Specs
Ability: Overgrow
Tera Type: Fairy
EVs: 72 HP / 252 SpA / 184 Spe
Modest Nature
- Shadow Ball
- Leaf Storm
- Giga Drain
- U-turn
just swap the set out for this one
and in the last slot i think you should run alomomola instead of the drednaw
to give yourself a more solid core
TLDR:
change the cyclizar set to the one i suggested
bisharp --> scizor
give sandy shocks heavy duty boots
keep talonflame as is
change the decidueye to the set i suggested
drednaw --> alomomola (use the smogon set for this aswell)
queen relic
grimmsnarl seems very random here
My idea was to set screens and sweep with any of the others mons, but obviously it can't work
foggy swallow
well some good picks are booster energy iron jugulis quaquaval oricorio pompom mimikyu nasty plot gengar maushold scizor dd mence dd tyranitar shift gear toxtricity
booster energy sandy shocks
polteagiest
plucky raptor
TLDR:
change the cyclizar set to the one i suggested
bisharp --> scizor
give sa...
Alright thank you so much for your time I appreciate it
plucky raptor
I played a bit more with the changes and
Yeah U-turn on the decidueye has been a game changer in how useful it is
Scizor is ight more consistent than Bisharp But I do miss the adrenaline of random nightslash crit come backs
Alomomola really goes : no
Although I don't really like tera blast on Shocks I think I'm gonna return to just stab
Thanks
plucky raptor
I don't really like turning ice type
twilit harbor
I would use spikes instead tbh, tbolt just kindve isn’t ever really needed
foggy swallow
dude hes running rocks
twilit harbor
why not both
foggy swallow
you wouldnt get the opportunities to set both up methinks
and terablast is better'
twilit harbor
He doesn’t want Tera blast
foggy swallow
i am aware but theres nothing wrong eith running tbolt
rancid pine
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fickle flax
https://pokepast.es/a7285505c85a09fa
Lemme cook
fickle flax
ping me when rate
scarlet yew
https://pokepast.es/a7285505c85a09fa
Lemme cook
Looks like you're going for a hyper offense team
But you've got a Scream Tail and a bulky Slither Wing
If you wanna go hyper offense then just go full offense
Bulky mons are either just slot fillers or they're not gonna give you great results
If you're not going hyper offense then drop Grimmsnarl
He's only used for that
hybrid vapor
but only pings every 6 hours
lean monolith
sandy is fine like that for ho
hybrid vapor
bot*
lean monolith
lefties and Tera fire over life orb and steel on sciz
pearl ravine
ill ping @fickle flax so he sees
lean monolith
thanks
fickle flax
hi :)
lean monolith
replace slither with a taunt gyarados
twilit harbor
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lean monolith
I’m trying to get this team in a more ho direction
fickle flax
https://pokepast.es/bf4b3a74b2f66879 (also btw here is the current rendition of team if it changes anything)
I took off Grimm
lean monolith
ok scratch what I said
hybrid vapor
for clarification pivot slither is kinda ungood on ho, you'd much rather use a diff slither set like bulk up booster energy flame charge or an entirely diff mon
lean monolith
specs cyclizar is bad regardless
hybrid vapor
ill let mr Romanji take care of the rest
lean monolith
you want boots or av here
fickle flax
Team is kinda built around the thing
Also plus if I do that then I lack a good special breaker
And if I go specs gengar the team just dies to kilowattrel
scarlet yew
Team is kinda built around the thing
Also plus if I do that then I lack a good s...
I mean
Sandy?
foggy swallow
if you wanna run offensive cyclizar run life orb
with draco overheat power whip u turn
fickle flax
Sandy?
Primary hazard setter and a momentum gaining pivot
It can break if needed but there’s preferred options the team focuses on
scarlet yew
Right
lean monolith
as much as I hate gastro it seems better over shocks here
fickle flax
Elaborate
foggy swallow
i think scizor offensive cyclizar is a good core
just a different sciz set
and s different supporting cast
scarlet yew
I like Gastro 😔
lean monolith
better defense + easier to set spikes with to help break with the offense guys
- water immune
hybrid vapor
also, i know you're probably set on this, but specs cyc would probably be much easier replaced with a similar fast pivot like noiv or gren; both are similar in what they bait in and have much better offensive synergy / defensive utility etc than choiced cyc (which ultimately defeats the purpose of cyc in general)
if you choose to revise the team you could probably use one of those or make cyc standard utility imo
lean monolith
you also need a ground immune
hybrid vapor
@fickle flax if you have anything to say about the suggestions so far let us know
lean monolith
I like mence here over tflame
actually scratch that
don’t want to stack too much
scarlet yew
https://pokepast.es/d805200719ace393
I just wanna bump this guy since he sent it at a bad time
hybrid vapor
thanks
lean monolith
tink would be the rocker
twilit harbor
do you want me to rate it
Mine?
foggy swallow
no
lean monolith
owned
hybrid vapor
.
foggy swallow
yours looks fine by the way
twilit harbor
Creep wo Chien?