NatDex OU Rates

[bleak solstice]

Gotcha! What would you suggest for the terras? And just out of curiosity what does waterpon have for better mu/s over rilla?

[feral canopy]

There Is No Ground Type

team is also very slow

u prob need to change alo and rilla for something

or maybe just

make alo/rilla scarf lando

[bleak solstice]

maybe scarf lando for alo and the waterpon for rilla that s&l suggested?

[feral canopy]

Yes that

sorta works

means urn weak. into lop tho

solution is zapdos over torn

[bleak solstice]

https://pokepast.es/f50fb33ee672ed89 with the edits, and pretty standard sets here. Does this work well?

[feral canopy]

holy

where are people getting that zapdos set

its horrible never use it

https://pokepast.es/544a37ee4a54012f

Fixed @bleak solstice

Oh wait

U want tera dragon on zapdos and gking

and probably lando too lol

[bleak solstice]

i just got it off smogon site lol

[feral canopy]

oh that zama spread is bad top

[feral canopy]

Oh nah

[bleak solstice]

yeah i dont know all the good spreads yet

[feral canopy]

we didnt fix that yet

Sec

that is my fault

Zamazenta @ Leftovers
Ability: Dauntless Shield
Tera Type: Electric
EVs: 68 HP / 248 Def / 192 Spe
Jolly Nature

• Heavy Slam
• Body Press
• Substitute
• Iron Defense

[bleak solstice]

bet looks much better

[feral canopy]

ye

[bleak solstice]

appreciate the help

[feral canopy]

np

[vast tendon]

https://pokepast.es/bd4ddf62dfa7d69d team feels all over the place ik. tried to build around nidoking cuz i think it has potential. failing miserably lol

[feral canopy]

spd tran without lefties

noooooooo

[vast tendon]

bruh im dumb

[sonic kraken]

thinkin of swapping out Dondozo

thoughts>

i like him but i feel he doeesnt get much use

Same with ting lu

[cold fog]

yeah this was based off that set lol

[knotty copper]

this is a good bulky team thats trying to be a HO team. so i would just pick one. sounds like since your trying to swap out dozo and lu you want more a of a offence team in wich case i would recomend swaping them out. maybe a glimora could work for hazerds and a ogerpon as aother water type.

just dont add deffencive mons again

[cold fog]

what the flip

why do you have eject button hatt and sash samurott on a defensive team?

[iron tangle]

https://pokepast.es/e36070b89cc50a12

[celest merlin]

New [Gen 9] National Dex RMT @limber crypt, @pale spear, @cobalt skiff, @crude stump. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

[iron tangle]

This is my take on an offence team, mostly just saw some synergy between them (except gliscor, I think I’ll drop it for a better lead) with a balance of physical and special threats, Val carries moonblast as an off pick to catch fighting/dark resists off, Mega Lop for physical firepower with Tapu Lele as a special nuke

Volc and Boulder as cleanup/reverse sweep

[iron tangle]

Maybe a screen setter, or a dedicated suicide lead

[cold fog]

i like sub cc mc sd on boulder and booster instead

[iron tangle]

Aight I can consider that

[cold fog]

replace moonblast for encore on valient

[limber crypt]

u can prob do defensive lando over glisc, with the changes nab mentionned as well

im not a huge fan of boulder on non ho i thibk u can ferro over it since no steel

[iron tangle]

A defensive ferro would sound decent

So what archetype would this team be

I just slapped it together with no real vision I’ll be honest

[limber crypt]

given that ur more reliant on getting ur mons in and hitting before ur opponent does id say its just offense

[iron tangle]

And how’d you rate this team 1-10

Could it get me to a decent elo level

[spice gust]

What do yall think of a breaking swipe gouging fire spirit break iron val core team

Basically focus on lowering the attack stats of tbe other mons to allow for setups

[orchid dune]

Who can help with mega gallade team for gen 8 NDOU please?

[wraith mulch]

https://pokepast.es/9395c67254c82b6a rain team

[celest merlin]

New [Gen 9] National Dex RMT @limber crypt, @pale spear, @dusk flare, @cobalt skiff, @crude stump. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

[cold fog]

https://pokepast.es/79dc832d4e692e0a

[celest merlin]

New [Gen 9] National Dex RMT @limber crypt, @pale spear, @dusk flare, @cobalt skiff, @crude stump. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

[cold fog]

blunder has a video with mega gallade u could use that if u want

[ornate marten]

Anyone want to look at my horrendous Nat dex ou team? https://pokepast.es/f9a766a775385e30

[celest merlin]

New [Gen 9] National Dex RMT @limber crypt, @pale spear, @cobalt skiff, @crude stump. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

[cold fog]

probably better to ask in the ubers channel

[crude stump]

azelf could be replaced by glimmora its usually better, or lando-t here to slightly fix weak-to-ground problem. scizor should be max speed or at least go 200+

[cold fog]

i used those before but i didnt want to deal with galvantula webs

[iron tangle]

https://pokepast.es/daaf1cf12abb8a7d

Attempt at HO

[celest merlin]

New [Gen 9] National Dex RMT @limber crypt, @pale spear, @cobalt skiff, @crude stump. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

[limber crypt]

This looks very solid, think the only change id make is sr/etaunt/boom lando @ sash

[iron tangle]

Ty

Any adjustments on move set?

[iron tangle]

For the others I mean

[limber crypt]

sub > eq on gyara, hp ground > buzz on volc, optionally eq > sub on boulder

[iron tangle]

Ty

[feral canopy]

not eq

we have no ghold

u want zen @iron tangle

[limber crypt]

oh ye fair point

[brave valve]

https://pokepast.es/129a695af5a60614

[celest merlin]

New [Gen 9] National Dex RMT @limber crypt, @pale spear, @dusk flare, @cobalt skiff, @crude stump. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

[brave valve]

this team seem good?

or is there anything I should replace?

[crude stump]

If you wanna go offensive which is where glimmora is usually seen, you shouldn’t put gking and garg there

If you wanna go balance, then you need at least ground and electric immunity and speed control here

Glim doesn’t fit on a balance

Put smth like lando over glim and make gking boots + chilling reception

probably smth fast over garg

[brave valve]

appreciate it!

[feral canopy]

u want tomb on zor over cc

[brave valve]

all right

[brave valve]

should I have my last slot be Moltres or something for hazard removal

[feral canopy]

moltres is dicks

whats the paste rn

[brave valve]

oh, never mind land can do the fog

all right hang on a second

[feral canopy]

Ok

[brave valve]

I don’t think he can learn Tomb

https://pokepast.es/41c8edb20e9fd189

this is the team so far

[feral canopy]

sand tomb

[brave valve]

oh all right

[feral canopy]

u want some kind of speed control over glimm

[brave valve]

should I use CM valiant?

[feral canopy]

that works

[brave valve]

all right

[feral canopy]

cm booster

[brave valve]

yep

[feral canopy]

make it tera ghost sball

encore

[brave valve]

yeah, that’s what I normally have it as

[feral canopy]

use the standard sub serp set also

[brave valve]

all right

[feral canopy]

Hm

act yeah

[brave valve]

fire terra with glare?

[feral canopy]

u wanna para stuff like volc and gking for ur v

val

No

use the sample set

[brave valve]

OK

[feral canopy]

its hp fire storm sub glare

tera steel

send the paste after

[brave valve]

https://pokepast.es/58154798083b9fcf

so everything seems right?

appreciate the help by the way

[feral canopy]

I think u want tera dragon gking here

Uhh

whats that zor spread

Scizor @ Scizorite
Ability: Light Metal
EVs: 248 HP / 124 Atk / 136 Spe
Adamant Nature

• Swords Dance
• Bullet Punch
• Close Combat
• Roost

use this spread

make cc sand tomb

[brave valve]

someone suggested a defensive spread for him

all right

[feral canopy]

nah not here

u need the attack and speed here

u got gking to scout anyways

[brave valve]

The team seems a little weak against the rain teams

unless I’m doing something wrong

[feral canopy]

you are

just need to outplay and play well with serp

[green notch]

https://pokepast.es/d51eb0b736b90f95

[celest merlin]

New [Gen 9] National Dex RMT @limber crypt, @pale spear, @cobalt skiff, @crude stump. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

[green notch]

Wanna get rid of slither. idk wut to change for it

Dealing scarf lele is a struggle in this team, idk wut to changefor slither wing

Wanna add heatran but it adds my Physical Valiant Weakness

Help haha

[feral canopy]

u need to do a lot more than get rid of swing

oh boy

[cobalt skiff]

Anyone able to help me

[green notch]

Others doing fine ngl

[cobalt skiff]

Can someone help me??

[brave valve]

https://pokepast.es/c5652c1cb5d4bfdd

[celest merlin]

New [Gen 9] National Dex RMT @limber crypt, @pale spear, @dusk flare, @cobalt skiff, @crude stump. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

[brave valve]

A team I made

which do you guys think would be better for my team Diancie or Medicham?

was also wondering if there are any other adjustments I should make as well

[limber crypt]

I think diancie is fine, pressures all the tera dragon mons and ogerpon nukes everything else, this lacks a ground though, so i think u can drop rilla for smth like lando @brave valve

[brave valve]

appreciate it

is glowing still a good idea for this team?

glow king

[limber crypt]

ye its fine here

oh also lefties tran

and encore waterpon

[brave valve]

all right, I appreciate it

anything else I should change as well or would the team seem fine after that?

also, which move should I replace with encore?

superpower?

[limber crypt]

yeah, nothing i really notice otherwise

[green notch]

https://pokepast.es/d51eb0b736b90f95

[celest merlin]

New [Gen 9] National Dex RMT @limber crypt, @pale spear, @cobalt skiff, @crude stump. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

[green notch]

repost lol

[lofty frost]

https://pokepast.es/8fc94485adc1f510 How is this

[celest merlin]

New [Gen 9] National Dex RMT @limber crypt, @pale spear, @cobalt skiff, @crude stump. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

[limber crypt]

This looks fine, maybe a bit waterpon so consider tera dragon lando but thats about it weak

[feral canopy]

there is no water resist

except scarf shifu

opposing shifu also owns this

[lofty frost]

I was thinking of putting Latias-M for Tyranitar-M

[green notch]

need to invest tera yeah

[green notch]

Wait, I tried that with ur team, and u will lose to kyurem lol

Just keep ttar

[green notch]

U might also use MSciz haha

[vast tendon]

https://pokepast.es/5c9618b03e313c1f hating how i dont have a ground type

[celest merlin]

New [Gen 9] National Dex RMT @limber crypt, @pale spear, @cobalt skiff, @dusk flare, @cobalt skiff, @crude stump. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

[vast tendon]

also ik theres a defensive balloon tran idk what i was thinking lol

[green notch]

Not a rater but, u can do offensive Z torn then, CM Lefties Bolt, also Defensive Landorus-T with fog > Tox, and keep spdef tran with lefties

Also for tera, Tera Fairy for Bolt, Tera Grass for Tran, and Tera water for Lando. But still wait for the raters to rate this hehe

[buoyant haven]

https://pokepast.es/200fa78651ff9443 is this semi-sun team still viable ? it's a previous sample from before the Gambit ban, except i replaced it first with Ttar (with Knock post Teal Mask), then after the Indigo Disk Toxapex with Raging Bolt as a more offensive water resist (the lack of a bulky pivot with recovery does hurst though).

[celest merlin]

New [Gen 9] National Dex RMT @limber crypt, @pale spear, @cobalt skiff, @crude stump. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

[cobalt skiff]

I am trying to make a mono fairy team, what yall think

[spice crest]

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[celest merlin]

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[spice crest]

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[cobalt skiff]

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[celest merlin]

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[cobalt skiff]

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[cobalt skiff]

I did it

[spice crest]

alright, now you wait for someone to help

[wanton badger]

would anybody be willing to help me here? A little bit back I built a mono ice team with aurora veil ninetales + aurorus being a surprisingly fun set with things like ancient power and rock polish to set up

i wanted to try this same general idea but with grimmsnarl duel screens and well…non-ice type mons LOL

what else would go well into what I already have here? also should I just switch mew out for slowking galar for easier pivots?

[cobalt skiff]

is this for ndmono..?

[cobalt skiff]

this mew set is a momentum sink on screens ho and aurorus is just really dogshit

[wanton badger]

its not screens ho

this thing is here to take hits and cm up

aurorus also isnt that bad behind an aurora veil with a weakness policy

lmfao you gotta work for it but ive got some funny replays

[spare pulsar]

https://pokepast.es/8e99a1da9efdcae2
I'm very new to playing competitive pokemon. I made this team and I'm not too sure if it's good or bad, send help

[celest merlin]

New [Gen 9] National Dex RMT @limber crypt, @pale spear, @dusk flare, @cobalt skiff, @crude stump. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

[cobalt skiff]

..? Why do you have a grimmsnarl then

[wanton badger]

to set the screens…

should I be putting the screens on mew

maybe that would be better

[cobalt skiff]

…thats ho? screens ho…

[wanton badger]

does every screens team have to be hyper offense?

is that the only archetype allowed?

[cobalt skiff]

Wdym

its monotype

[cobalt skiff]

if you’re using light clay and screens rhen yeah its screens ho…

why use screens to enable defensive pokemon

[cobalt skiff]

all your team members are fairy types

[cobalt skiff]

Yes it’s an all fairy team that’s the point

[wanton badger]

smh

[cobalt skiff]

why are you using this in ou then? theres a whole format about using monotype

[lofty frost]

Any1 knows how to build around Lele + gfire?

[cobalt skiff]

Because I’m playing pixelmon and I can be up against all

[cobalt skiff]

?

[cobalt skiff]

Ppl can use non monotype teams

Uhhuh..?

It’s not hard to understand..?

Ok…

[dusk flare]

we don't rate pixelmon teams here, sorry

[bleak solstice]

Wanted to see what the bulky gouging fire set was all about. Paired it with a special wallbreaker in diance mega. Rillaboom is just for good prio and to beat urshifu who is not the easiest to beat. AV torn is a solid special def wall, lando serves as a phys wall. Urshifu is speed control. I know this isnt super well optimized but if anyones got any suggestions as to how to possibly build a better gouging fire core, or how to improve the team lmk! So far has been alright, but think its mainly been due to gouging fire cheese

https://pokepast.es/8293214784071c31

[cobalt skiff]

well it is a pokemon team just asking in general

[feral canopy]

Yeah but this is for national dex ou, not pixelmon

[cobalt skiff]

yes that is the format I use

[feral canopy]

you’ll get better help in whatever pixelmon server your in than here

[cobalt skiff]

I use showdown and have been for awhile with this team

[feral canopy]

Yes but this format has nothing to do with monotype teams

especially with restrictions

[feral canopy]

i can also play ag with an all weedle team, doesnt make it gopd

if you want actual advice

half the team is unviable and all of them have bad sets

with the 3 viable mons there is no synergy between them so you will have to stick with 1-2 at the max

depending on what those are (one or 2 of diancie, clefable, or maybe hatt)

the rest go completely differently

and it does not involve fairy types

this is the only help your going to get here

because again we rate national dex ou, not pixelmon monotype

[cobalt skiff]

okay ty

[cobalt skiff]

hey... dont hate o n alotales!!!

[cobalt skiff]

this team feels as if its very weak to ogerpon-wellspring and cornerstone, considering every time they come into the field they at BEST force chip, at worst snowball out of control. pretty poor weather mu into both sun and rain aswell, id say bulky gfire is a good fit on offence/grassy terrain teams so you might want to base a team off of that archetype instead rather than bo, where gfire's defensive utility isnt as needed due to you having 2 pivots already

[bleak solstice]

That is a good point, i’m not too good at building around top threats too much yet. I definitely did see the synergy on grassy terrain but i’m also not 100% sure what a grassy terrain core looks like lol

[cobalt skiff]

i dont have any for nd but generally its stuff like rilla lucha then other mons

[bleak solstice]

Gotcha, maybe i’ll look into some stuff there. I assume grassy terrain doesnt run banded rilla?

[bleak solstice]

https://pokepast.es/d18df91d8300ea8f

[celest merlin]

New [Gen 9] National Dex RMT @limber crypt, @pale spear, @cobalt skiff, @dusk flare, @cobalt skiff, @crude stump. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

[bleak solstice]

Alright, gouging fire grassy terrain part 2 now with more grassy terrain stuff

[crude stump]

i'd make rilla terrain extender here

also hmmm it's okay that you don't have defog since it's pretty much ho

but you need rock

[bleak solstice]

True, maybe a tusk in there somewhere?

Can cover both bases in one

[crude stump]

probably tusk over washtom?

[feral canopy]

do u rlly need

extender

surely band is fine enough

u got enough to keep the defensive load spread

its gna stay alive long enough

nice having another breaker to wear down and pressure zap

[bleak solstice]

Tusk also makes me 3x fairy weak too

[feral canopy]

u have zor

and other stuff depending on the fairy

go lando for ur ground

i think the ground u want is lando here

def lando

teied and true on these lucha offenses anyways

over washer prob

[bleak solstice]

Rocks defensive lando?

[feral canopy]

Yes

also i think u want boots for gouginh

and prob tera steel

dont want to get rked by lele

or owned by fs

im ngl im also not too big on non eq gouging but idk if that works then ig so

maybe u cld use smtg like dd 3a with a defensive tera

aka do what bolt does and break shit firsr for lucha or rilla to clean

[bleak solstice]

I like the idea of dd 3 attacks

I originally wanted to try to test out that breaking swipe set that everyone was bitching about in gen 9 ou but that probably doesnt work well here

[feral canopy]

maybe not idk

im not the biggest fan of gouging in general anyways

feel like bulky sets do 0 damage and band only works on sun

[swift nova]

NDOU Screens HO: https://pokepast.es/94049fadf3a58e8b

Not convinced on Gouging+M-Scizor on the team, feels like I'd get better mileage out of something like M-Char X and a Volcarona/Raging Bolt

M-Char would also give me another Ground/Fairy type switch in pre-MEvo

[bleak solstice]

If i don’t like gouging i can probably just slap volc on and be fine yeah?

[feral canopy]

mmh

makes stuff like opposing volc a hard mu

u wld need to change some stuff if u wna change it to volc

[bleak solstice]

Yeah true, just trynna think of a backup

[crude stump]

volc over gfire looks good here

you get too many physical attackers

[feral canopy]

need water resist also

orb 4a val is a bad set

Im ngl i think grimm wld be better if u run val

maybe

altho u def want encore booster val

[swift nova]

Paste should have SD on Val, LOrb was just cause greed lording from Tapu Koko

Started as an ETerrain HO team then morphed

[swift nova]

Bulky Volc with Sun or 252/252 timid? Haven't used Volc much so idk what the better set is for HO

[crude stump]

252 timid

also i agree with adem here

a waterpon or a dragon looks good here

[swift nova]

Updated https://pokepast.es/bdb49870973e33b8

Went with Bolt cause Waterpon tears my team up otherwise

[feral canopy]

the dragon should be dragonite

[swift nova]

https://pokepast.es/eaaa541c759bf7c7 Changed to DD+3 attack DNite

[feral canopy]

espeed dnite is bad

[swift nova]

Maybe Ice Spinner over Outrage to hit Flying types

[feral canopy]

u can keep boots but make it spinner dwb eq

u can make it drag z dnite too

[swift nova]

Ou I like those both, I'll test with the dwb set first

[swift nova]

Cause Tapu Lele everywhere?

[feral canopy]

Thats one thing

but ur also walled by a lot

due to lack of coverage

so u cant break well

ur bulky enough to dd twice too a lot of the time too

so not like u need the priority for much

ur forced into tera normal too for damage

so if something teras ur weak as shit

and normal isnt the best defensive type ether

when u have the option of steel or water or poison

[swift nova]

That makes a lot of sense actually

It's already come into play in the games I've played since changes

Tera on Volc has had way more impact than Norm tera wouldve

[feral canopy]

yes

[swift nova]

Thanks for the help!!

[feral canopy]

np

[green notch]

Did I really read this correctly? Espeed Dnite is bad?

[feral canopy]

Yes

[cobalt skiff]

Ya its fallen off

[green notch]

That's sad

https://pokepast.es/17d91c678d180376

[celest merlin]

New [Gen 9] National Dex RMT @limber crypt, @pale spear, @cobalt skiff, @dusk flare, @cobalt skiff, @crude stump. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

[green notch]

Anyways I really like this team ngl. Latias is really good dealing against Urshifus and Rain

76 SpA is enough to kill shifu with one psychic

Though mystical fire isn't enough to kill Bulky Scizor at full

64 timid is also enough to outspeed glimmora

[willow topaz]

https://pokepast.es/a590d1753fee4864

[green notch]

That looks like semi stall rather than balance lol

[hushed osprey]

https://pokepast.es/4bbe112e6bbfaa0c
I want to fix an issue with this team. Its too passive. How do i fix it, and if there are anying other issues can u plz fix it 2 i really want to get to high ladder with this team
(the only one i want to keep is Brambleghast cause its supposed to be a team round it. everything else on the team can be replaced)
@limber crypt

[celest merlin]

New [Gen 9] National Dex RMT @limber crypt, @pale spear, @dusk flare, @cobalt skiff, @crude stump. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

[green notch]

Hmm

[crude stump]

https://pokepast.es/6465cfcd7ea5ca1f @late sleet helped with this

[hushed osprey]

yo Appreciate it dude

im fina start laddering right now

[hardy violet]

https://pokepast.es/2ba5df07330e7fdf

Idk if I’m just shit but kommo o fits well but it’s always a 50-50 mon in terms of its game to game value

Also it’s hard to pick which move to slot in

I want flamethrower for ferro, but don’t want to just blow my z on a protect or read, and just have the safer option of regular clang soul

Scarf Val goes crazy tho

Hella good revenge killer

[crude stump]

i would recommend to use specs ival here and change kommo to some scarfer

[hardy violet]

Gotchu

And if going for specs, prolly psyshock for clodsire right

Also just realized my slowking wasn’t - speed nature

Oops

[hardy violet]

For a scarf kommo o set I would assume to go for mixed correct?

Or fully physical

[crude stump]

eh i dont think scarf kommo is good

[hardy violet]

Just i just go with scarf lele then

Idk im tryna see what would work well

The 2-2-2 style of the team works well in practice

With 2 fat mons with alo and g king, 2 utility mons in lando and ttar, and 2 breakers in val and x

[feral canopy]

alo and gking generally dont do too well together nowadays

they both can deal with similiar things

and overlap

they are both also easy to take advantage of

[cobalt skiff]

https://pokepast.es/4283d2f626e5e414

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[cobalt skiff]

Psyspam team, would appreciate any feedback

[crude stump]

1. Use tapu lele

2. Hawlucha over the long legs guy

3. Don’t play psyspam actually

[cobalt skiff]

Terrain Extender lele?

Also Hawlucha can’t even use terrain lol

[hardy violet]

Yes it can

[cobalt skiff]

It’s a flying type

Meaning it can get hit by priority

[hardy violet]

The seed items don’t check for typing

Only immediate priority that threatens Lucha is thunder clap

Which u prolly ain’t beating anyways

[cobalt skiff]

And Dnite

And the fake out megas

[feral canopy]

psychic seed

all of those it kills anyways

hitmonlee is horrid

[cobalt skiff]

Psychic seed boosts spdef

And they can’t kill if u have terrain up

[crude stump]

Adem your time to spread wisdom I’m gonna sleep

[willow topaz]

https://pokepast.es/a590d1753fee4864

[feral canopy]

point is that it activates unburden and you can win lol

the boost is just a +

[feral canopy]

this is not good

far too passive

i dont see what the synergy all these defensive aimed mons have together

mono defog zor this gen is also not good, or well just fog zor im ngl

ur js gna get mowed over by medi coming in every other turn and claim something

cant break stuff like cm reuni and even cm clef well

they come in on everything and can setup

[buoyant haven]

I would like an update on this plz ?

[crude stump]

lando isn't for stall. it's a pivot on balance structures

[cobalt skiff]

and bo

the team feels like a stall team without any actually good understanding of stall

[crude stump]

personally i don't like to put tar on sun team. yard + tar was more like a gen6 offense core but tar is hurting abilities of tusk and bolt here

[hard creek]

https://pokepast.es/f56d56f4d36cdd66

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[hard creek]

@crude stump

[dusk flare]

they were already pinged by chatot

[hard creek]

yeah mb I thought it didnt work

but its HO bang bang stuff :3

[crude stump]

I think the crown slot isn’t good

[hard creek]

oh

[dusk flare]

that should realistically just be a mega scizor ye

[crude stump]

If you wanna use set up crown probably double dance set would be better but yeah

[hard creek]

3a?

[crude stump]

Better not to run crown

[dusk flare]

yes

manaphy is also balls outside of rain + boulder needs booster to actually do anything of worth on ho

[hard creek]

:C

[crude stump]

also personally I like alluring voice over ice beam on manaphy rn

You hit dragon hard with voice

[hard creek]

but sulo said mana shouldnt be here so like

do I put like idfk anymore Lucha in that slot?

[crude stump]

I’m just saying if you wanna use it

Ideally go ival

[hard creek]

https://pokepast.es/5a2d7bf2278bb9a3

this fine?

[lofty frost]

https://pokepast.es/2c33b1a6d4f663f3 Any change in this team?

[hushed osprey]

https://pokepast.es/8f0a368104e5d6b1
@crude stump
goin to need some help again

[crude stump]

No buzzwole no cyclizar

What are you trying to build?

[hushed osprey]

a team around buzzswole cause

[hardy violet]

Cyclizar is hot ass

Double hazard removal really isn’t necessary unless ur running a team that relies on something like zard y

I would just go boots on buzzwole

U have drain punch + roost

So ur gonna not have issues with longevity

And rillaboom

I’m tripping balls

I thought I saw a Defog lando on that 💀

Mb

Cyclizar still ass tho

[hushed osprey]

so what should i go for hazard removal

[hardy violet]

are u goinmg for only rapid spin

to not defog ur grassy terrain

[hushed osprey]

only rapid spin

defog is not go for grassy terrian
i need it for buzzswole and tran

[hardy violet]

treads would work int hat slot better

u have pivot volt switch

rocks

spim

and then whatever attack for 4th slot

also i would 100% run physically defensive gliscor over special

[feral canopy]

why in the world would u run physdef gliscor

the main stuff you want to eat and check are special attackers

[hardy violet]

idk what typa of gliscor u be using bro

u dont wanna be sitting on a gking ice beam even if ur spdef

ur taking like 75%

[crude stump]

you dont take ice beam and there's 0 ice beam gking in natdex

use spdef

[feral canopy]

ok there is ice beam gking in nd

but

u also easily take it with spd

0 SpA Slowking-Galar Ice Beam vs. 244 HP / 252+ SpD Gliscor: 244-288 (69.3 - 81.8%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Poison Heal

there isnt a lot of ice beam but there is a lot of hp ice

252 SpA Tapu Koko Hidden Power Ice vs. 244 HP / 252+ SpD Gliscor: 184-220 (52.2 - 62.5%) -- 71.9% chance to 2HKO after Poison Heal

[feral canopy]

and then u 2hko it

or u roost it off

means you can beat booster val p easily, and scout specs

[hushed osprey]

https://pokepast.es/769ed5a126737407

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[cobalt skiff]

How to kill a Tornadus-Therian?

[hardy violet]

👍

[crude stump]

this is too passive and i dont see why there's a treads on the team with glisc and tran already there

[hushed osprey]

he suggested it

thats why

[crude stump]

0 offensive and defensive synergy here

if you want to play around buzzwole

i think you need to make it defensive at least

cuz rn it walls nothing

[hushed osprey]

so what to delete from the team?

[crude stump]

anything you wanna keep besides buzzwole...?

[hushed osprey]

i do want to keep buzzswole obviously

[crude stump]

first of all you will need smth to threaten flying type here

[hushed osprey]

so like and electric type?

https://pokepast.es/4d127a35c48c330d
ok how this looks so far?

[crude stump]

Add a speed control

[hushed osprey]

so mlop?

right?

[feral canopy]

take whatever u heard from non raters w a grain of salt

[hushed osprey]

ok

[hardy violet]

to be fair cyclizar was in that slot before 💀

[lofty frost]

https://pokepast.es/c554422881ad6cff how is this?

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[limber crypt]

seems fine to me, not a change but a possible alternative is ferrolando > tran and glisc

Makes the waterpon mu a bit better + guves u more pivoting while keeping spikes but its hardly necessariy

[crude stump]

Or make you alomo tera dragon to improve the ogerpon mu

[lofty frost]

I was thinking about putting ferrothorn on Tornadus and make defoger the gliscor

[crude stump]

I’d prefer to keep torn cuz the team is already pretty slow

[bleak solstice]

This is a cool one i’ve been messing with, av iron crown is pretty chill, soaks a lot of special attacks and hits pretty hard with terrain up. Lando because its required Iron valiant is iron valiant. Koko for terrain, mega sciz for prio, urshifu set is kinda gimmicky. Been thinking about switching some stuff around. Def urshifu, a bit too gimmicky and maybe terrain is not needed. Ival could be a diff set too. Definitely also weak to other setup mons. Lemme know if you got any suggestions! Maybe i’ll start throwing some of these in the team bazzar soon

https://pokepast.es/6c182a099f35207b

[crude stump]

you need a defog somewhere

[reef knoll]

https://pokepast.es/17ee6b859c116614 Lele answer where? the team, just jumped into ndou after a big break.

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[reef knoll]

that seems annoying

this was a specs crown team that was para spikes to help enable it

fine w/ dropping it

https://pokepast.es/3de9a32679545d5e

[cobalt skiff]

everything that adriyun said+make garchomp offensive rocker

like SD eq outrage/stone edge stealth rock

then dragonium or rockinium z for the respective move you pick

tankchomp is just a huge momentum sink here

[reef knoll]

https://pokepast.es/14fd102faa276c3c smthn like this?

[cobalt skiff]

yeah

but put the spa on gking into physdef

[reef knoll]

thank you

[cobalt skiff]

finally id say tera psychic/fairy is better on lele and gking prefers tera steel

[reef knoll]

done done, also why does oger run that set

arent like, you wanting to hit the 50 dragons

[feral canopy]

holy

this team looks horrid

BAD ZAPDOS SET

theres no reason for def zapdos here anyway u have tankchomp

[feral canopy]

superpower/cudgel hits most of them already

this also loses to volc

and weavile

drop lele or gking

probably gking

or both even, u already have speed control with lop

https://pokepast.es/e7218eb72d1c5f9b

something like this possibly

altho im not big on tankchomp in this economy, no point having 3 breakers all pressure the same thing

https://pokepast.es/2db028dadd199de6

a structure like this could also work

a lot of different mons but the roles and roughly the same, and gel better w the team

https://pokepast.es/4ea037f7fd0dc413

[feral canopy]

walled by big ferro

all the mons js gonna come back in and set hazards again

hard truth buddy

cane zap is dicks

[feral canopy]

when ur walled by gliscor

i said gliscor breh

with what

[feral canopy]

.

No im iut rn

[crude stump]

I can’t believe one day I will see myself agreeing with you

sry for wording problem. great to see someone against adem’s zap set

[reef knoll]

Oh lol

[feral canopy]

the zap set that everyone has run since this gen*

fog zapdos is dicks anyways

[crude stump]

What everyone runs is defog roost can vs

[feral canopy]

i would rather run corv

[crude stump]

but I’m not a fan for defog zap rn

[feral canopy]

yeah because they were indoctrinated by you lot

[crude stump]

no longer fits the meta

[feral canopy]

of it being a good set

the moment gliscor became a viable pokemon it wasnt a good set

[crude stump]

I used it when gliscor wasn’t that common and ferro was ass due to ghold

0 zap usage recently so I don’t really mind actually

[reef knoll]

https://pokepast.es/89ff336b69d35a59 so this

[celest merlin]

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[crude stump]

koko can be tough into this

[reef knoll]

thats just what they recommend me so

but yea it is

[crude stump]

looks cool in general ig it's acceptable

[reef knoll]

yea i wont use it now lol

[crude stump]

probably slap a ferro or smth

[reef knoll]

ill just build smthn else, corv pex zzz

[feral canopy]

that is why u use this

https://pokepast.es/594142167ee24892

shablam

[bleak solstice]

Mb, just seeing this been working all day. Is it worth just running defog on lando over having rocks?

[crude stump]

it's actually ok to run without defog here but you would play hard against tspikes or webs

rock def more important tho

[bleak solstice]

Yeah i’ve def been having some trouble dealing with those

Webs especially without great speed control

And hazard chip adds up

[oblique elm]

@barren egret this thread should help <3

[barren egret]

thx

suggestions ? https://pokepast.es/b62ac64248ea749a

[limber crypt]

Ferro > glisc, and gking > tran, this should help with the ival and wellspring mus which screw you up rn, while keeping spikes and giving u more oppurtunities to bring lati and darkrai

I would also prob go specs and smth faster than koko in the ladt slot, i think zama works bc it likes gking besting fairies and beats darks/steels for lati

[barren egret]

ferro is banned in nd and by gking do u mean kingambit? also am new could u be a bit more specific

[cobalt skiff]

ferrothorn isnt banned in natdex. by gking they mean slowking-galar as kingambit is banned in national dex

[barren egret]

so for utiltiy i should use ferrothorn and for wall i should use gking?

and another question :

by zama do u mean zamazenta

[limber crypt]

yes

[barren egret]

ok thx!

rest is fine?

[limber crypt]

yes

[barren egret]

ok

@limber crypt this is updated team what u think https://pokepast.es/f6537fc5621ddf3f

[crude stump]

Band weavile over darkrai, stealth rock on ferro, physical defensive lando with defog, and you could check dex for latios set

[barren egret]

first team i made without help of resources https://pokepast.es/54b55cf7ce463df8

[crude stump]

Why would you stack four flying types

Heal pulse is useless

Is this even for single format?

[feral canopy]

use sample teams

[crude stump]

at least check dex for sets

[barren egret]

Can u send

[barren egret]

Dk how to check dex

[crude stump]

Go for the sample sets

Also I’d echo adem on this

It’s better to try sample teams before you build

[lofty frost]

https://pokepast.es/bcdecbf1aed41c76

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[crude stump]

This 6 doesn’t need check tbh

But sets could be improved

[barren egret]

i dont

see i

oh

nvm

where

[crude stump]

Select tier first

[barren egret]

ok thx

[hollow basalt]

https://pokepast.es/4f50e98c34b1a796

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[hardy violet]

Imo

U should go Tera ghost on samurott

[hollow basalt]

I haven't found it coming up particularly ngl
The only really common rapid spinners in the tier are the paradox donphans and neither of them really wanna risk a razor shell to the face

They don't know I don't have it xd

[storm isle]

https://pokepast.es/73a884df2f653ce5 this is the first team ive made

from reading the wikis and stuff

[feral canopy]

think u need to give it a reread buddy

dragapult is banned

pelli also only works on full rain

and currently nothing on here benefits from rain in the slightesr

koff tusk is also bad

[storm isle]

joever

[storm isle]

joever

[storm isle]

oh, the wiki said raging bolt benefits from rain

[crude stump]

you probably checked ou, not natdex

[storm isle]

oh

then wheres the just ou team rate?

ive gotta be tweaking

[feral canopy]

ou is in the ou thread

[crude stump]

https://discord.com/channels/192713314399289344/1059653209678950460

[storm isle]

okay thanks

[willow topaz]

https://pokepast.es/9e9dad04fded0da6

[celest merlin]

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[feral canopy]

???

[crude stump]

Ferro isn’t for stall

Why did i see an iron head scizor

[feral canopy]

keep looking it gets scarier

[crude stump]

Ice beam isn’t what you bring on alomo

[feral canopy]

use the sample sets bro

please

[willow topaz]

im cooking

[feral canopy]

No your not

this is horrid

[willow topaz]

nah

so is this like a

delete everything

[feral canopy]

bad team

finished ur sentence

but seriously

[pale spear]

.

Don’t be mean

[feral canopy]

outside of mon compatability

all of these sets are awful

[crude stump]

4/6 members of this team are okay

[pale spear]

The Mononobe no Futo encourages and uplifts new players

[crude stump]

You just need to check sample sets

[willow topaz]

whats wrong wit iron head scizor though

for lele

[pale spear]

Honestly

That’s pr heat

[willow topaz]

https://pokepast.es/c430f8c95f0a6321

[crude stump]

There’s a ferro + blissey for lele although idk why there is a ferro on stall

[pale spear]

I’m ngl

There’s gonna be a stall sample

Coming soon.

[willow topaz]

i searched for samples closest i got were fat balances

i dont even know how to build i just like playin stall

[pale spear]

I can’t show it rn but it’s clod bliss corvi pex dozo glisc

[willow topaz]

dozo?

aight

[crude stump]

THAT TEAM

[cobalt skiff]

Specs:

[willow topaz]

https://pokepast.es/9a5069810c8720e1

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[cobalt skiff]

https://pokepast.es/5735a40826b230bb

[crude stump]

corvi and blissey shouldn't be in a sun team

[crude stump]

for this I'd recommend you to start with sample teams and get familiar with the metagame before building

hi this is channel for natdex teams. check this for monotype: https://discord.com/channels/192713314399289344/1059658237097545758

[lofty frost]

https://pokepast.es/425d65162754b45a How is this

[celest merlin]

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[dusk flare]

fastest mon koko is pretty abusable and gking mola is a pretty mediocre defensive core as well; this also lacks stealth rock and a good stopgap to ogerpon

[crude stump]

although not faster but darkrai looks horrifying here

[dusk flare]

i think scarf lando > glisc, rocks ferro > gking, and pex > mola is alright; make gking tera dragon, kyurem tera ice, and glisc tera fairy as well

[crude stump]

Same. Scarf lando with defog over gliscor here and ferro over gking, but i think both pex and mola can work here. It depends on if you wanna click a slow pivot or better defensive core

[lofty frost]

Anything like that? https://pokepast.es/7c3ce3502ecf79b1

[dusk flare]

yea this looks better

altho without gking i think kyu should just be boots now

[crude stump]

or make koko boots

at least one of these two should be boots to relieve threats from hazard

btw i think you can go 31 atk iv but still use hp ice

yeah boots kyu looks better since it can load roost now

[carmine hamlet]

tell that to the guy who put chansey on sun

[feral canopy]

It fits.

You Are Hating.

[brave valve]

https://pokepast.es/0e8bd4e3e847ae24

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[brave valve]

this is a team I made a little bit earlier. I’ve been thinking of replacing Charizard because I’m not sure if he really fits but I don’t know any good alternatives to him

[feral canopy]

there is a ogerpon wellspring and a mega charizard Y in the same team

[pale spear]

ye ngl if u replace the yard w like

zama

or smth that checks oger while keeping the pressure

this is a fine team

[brave valve]

yeah, I felt like I was doing something wrong

[feral canopy]

replace something for a wellspring check too

probably rai

[pale spear]

^

i said here bro

[feral canopy]

beloved dragonite

[brave valve]

F

[feral canopy]

stfu

No one asked u buddy.

[brave valve]

I tried to make a team around dark

[feral canopy]

u can still

maybe nuke wellspring then

[brave valve]

maybe

[pale spear]

im a nat dex rater

you are not.

[feral canopy]

Yap yap yap

[brave valve]

I felt like either Charizard or spring had to go

[feral canopy]

DC!!!!

might be both in this case

[pale spear]

sigh

look at this guy

[brave valve]

so I should replace Charizard with Zama?

should I use choice band?

[feral canopy]

u need a dark resist so prov yeah

boots

[brave valve]

all right

[feral canopy]

then replace wellspring with waterpon check

or or or or

[brave valve]

what would be a good check?

[feral canopy]

make heatran a ferro make wellspring something else make lele av

boom

genius

[brave valve]

assault vest?

[feral canopy]

yes

Maybe

i might be going crazy but that doesnt sound too bad

[brave valve]

isn’t most of its threats physical though

[feral canopy]

then u change wellspring to some kind of other volc check mayb

[feral canopy]

yes but

ur checking the special ones

[brave valve]

if I remove wellspring though, I’ll be weak to rain

he was my main check

otherwise swampert slaughters everyone

[feral canopy]

ferrothornys

solves that issue

rai also clicks vs rain

[buoyant haven]

would like a suggustion for a meta viable semi-sun then since the new samples lack one

@crude stump @pale spear

[feral canopy]

https://pokepast.es/62c1f0d4c1245f86

@buoyant haven

[buoyant haven]

thanks

what does chansey help against ?

[feral canopy]

everything u can think of

[buoyant haven]

what does the EV spread for lando achieve ?

and kartana too

[feral canopy]

both are on the analyses

[buoyant haven]

are alternatives with another fire type viable ? if not, thanks !

[pale spear]

Man this team sucks

[cobalt skiff]

gonna hard agree

with chrisp

[turbid oracle]

im no pro but why run hp defensive lando t

if you’re gonna use choice scarf

and why weavile with zard Y

i thought you were running a sun team since raging bolt and m zard Y

also why not solar blade instead of leaf blade

since you have sun

id start from scratch

[placid cosmos]

so you can switch into stuff

[turbid oracle]

why scarf then if its a pivot

[placid cosmos]

it can still pivot if its switching into things

if you come in on a koko, its not going to want to stay in so you can predict a switch and pivot with uturn

[placid cosmos]

also leaf blade is more consistent cause youre not always gonna have sun

[pale spear]

True

@feral canopy I wld also start from scratch

[cobalt skiff]

is double intimidate and parting shot sound like a bad idea?

[karmic kraken]

https://pokepast.es/244faebfea011e1a

I took a friend’s team and tried to make it better, thoughts?

[celest merlin]

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[civic saddle]

Raging bolt 6-0

Make glowking toxic instead of twave

Since Ferro dies to taunt or weather ball

You could also try going offensive tusk to revenge kill bolt

But Tera flying taunt bolt just kills the entire team

[feral canopy]

Stfu

[feral canopy]

Your just a hater dawg

[feral canopy]

because the point is your a bulky pivot

there is literally an analysis on this set

the team doest need more firepower with yard and bolt and kart and weavile

[feral canopy]

pursuit + yard, and specifically weavile + yard has been a combination that has been used since char y came into existence lol

this is literally the most normal team about char y sun

literally 99% of teams with it pair it with a pursuiter

and most of the time these past few gens it has been weavile

[turbid oracle]

isn’t pursuit banned

[feral canopy]

and...?

[feral canopy]

????

[pale spear]

Adem rant incoming

[feral canopy]

LOL

not even gonna comment on that one

[feral canopy]

how do you say this

when you dont even know what tier your talking about

[turbid oracle]

cause its what id do

[feral canopy]

and i wasnt posting a team@to rate, i was sending them a team for what they asked for

[feral canopy]

yeah dont

lol

[pale spear]

I was right

[feral canopy]

because sun isnt going to be up most of the time, and you want your kart to actually do damage

[feral canopy]

ur wrong

this team farmed u btw

[pale spear]

?????

I won

R u high

[feral canopy]

Ok thats bc i was dumb but

team still wld have won if i wasnt

[pale spear]

Lie

My vsn of this team is btr

[feral canopy]

ur team is bad

lost to sulo

[pale spear]

???

yk what that team shld act run

The Tail.

[feral canopy]

.

Kkkk

Yo

Hm

Maybe it might work

issue is No Rock

[hard creek]

pursuit traps Yard's checks

[hard creek]

solar blade is very overkill'

no offense but it sounds like u dont know what ur talking about

[willow topaz]

did i burn the food https://pokepast.es/dc9769b248934cdf

[celest merlin]

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[crude stump]

Hidin are you just saying “use sample” in a more complicated form

https://pokepast.es/49aa721a0a703cae

[crude stump]

You can use this from sample

[cobalt eagle]

Been outta the loop in terms of changes, meta, etc. Stuck between Gliscor & Lando? Any opinions?

[feral canopy]

use both

[cobalt eagle]

[dusky carbon]

Depends on your team

[lofty frost]

https://pokepast.es/e1844d31935c6fa8

[celest merlin]

New [Gen 9] National Dex RMT @limber crypt, @pale spear, @cobalt skiff, @crude stump, @hardy flint. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

[limber crypt]

tpunch > slide on shifu, recommwnding tera dragon on pex as well since this is kinda waterpon food

This looks very solid wnd i sont notice any upfront weaknesses outaide of raging bolt/archaludon ig? But u can pressure them quite a bit

[brave valve]

https://pokepast.es/fe28220dcc28037d

an HO team that I made

I was thinking of replacing a grim, snarl, but I’m not sure with who

[crude stump]

Defensive lando and np torn are usually for more balanced style

If you wanna keep lando here it should go offensive like sd Z or suicide lead

Also 4/6 the team weak to fairy isn’t that good

Maybe you need a volc over torn

[brave valve]

like this?

https://pokepast.es/f95e951f9818bf66

[celest merlin]

New [Gen 9] National Dex RMT @limber crypt, @pale spear, @cobalt skiff, @dusk flare, @crude stump, @hardy flint. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

[brave valve]

o shitn

[crude stump]

Probably

[brave valve]

my bad

i forgot

[crude stump]

Not sure on lando set still but it looks better

[brave valve]

alr

should I go back to defensive?

[crude stump]

Definitely offensive

I’m unsure about rock or fly z or even just taunt rock explosion

[willow topaz]

https://pokepast.es/a152781e52a4db84

[pallid umbra]

No offence that scizor set looks ass

[willow topaz]

what should i use then

[fast totem]

I'm not exactly a pro so you don't need to listen to my advice you can just wait for a helper

But

5/6 pokemon on your team have toxic

Since I'm guessing it's stall the point of your mscizor should be to do some damage while also defogging and pivoting

[willow topaz]

i could go bullet punch over toxic

on sciz

[fast totem]

Yea but also switch the evs to something more physically defensive since that's scizor's strength

Maybe like a 1/3 2/3 split between phys and special

[willow topaz]

Scizor @ Scizorite
Ability: Light Metal
Tera Type: Water
EVs: 248 HP / 112 Def / 148 SpD
Impish Nature

• U-turn
• Defog
• Bullet Punch
• Roost

[celest merlin]

New [Gen 9] National Dex RMT @limber crypt, @pale spear, @crude stump, @hardy flint. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

[cold fog]

https://pokepast.es/7d75cf238e6065af

[celest merlin]

New [Gen 9] National Dex RMT @limber crypt, @pale spear, @cobalt skiff, @dusk flare, @crude stump, @hardy flint. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

[hardy flint]

i don’t see an issue w the team at first?

i’m not a fan of specs valiant really

or hoppa7

Hoopa

[stone dragon]

https://pokepast.es/39cdb6e359676aed

[celest merlin]

New [Gen 9] National Dex RMT @limber crypt, @pale spear, @crude stump, @hardy flint. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

[stone dragon]

im pretty set on rain, but i feel like there's something important missing in the team structure

[proven abyss]

Sun team I made any ways to better optimize my team

[lofty frost]

https://pokepast.es/f49d96d9bbc0e049 BO lopunny, any changes here? i think it's solid

[feral canopy]

Ferrothorn @ Covert Cloak
Ability: Iron Barbs
Tera Type: Ghost
EVs: 80 HP / 176 Atk / 252 SpD
Adamant Nature

• Knock Off
• Stealth Rock
• Spikes
• Body Press

insane

all of this to still lose to curse garg

od

[static hound]

https://pokepast.es/424a85f83896fdc2

Gen8, wanted to try a lopunny team cause never used it before. Tried making it more aligned to offense since its a style im comfortable with. Liked the idea of specs latios so I put it there. Originally it was qd volc. Would like to know if there are any issues i can patch up. Some that i know of is blaziken, though it just wears itself down to fake out/glide range after a while. 2/6 mons are also susceptible to ttar trapping 😭

[static hound]

nother issue is like no real way to beat tran

i can whittle it down with slowking sure

but often ends up letting slowking die

[stone dragon]

how should i make it better then

[brave valve]

Life orb, Venusaur and if you have double sun, why double booster?

[twin temple]

https://pokepast.es/511b2d9a00b6151e

so i made a lance-like team and so far, the only thing i DON"T like is the lack of special attackers and 2 dragon dancers. I just won one recently and suprised a player with temper flare gyarados on their ferrothorn, prob may fav jump scare today. who shou;d i change to be a special attacker tho and other changes?

[celest merlin]

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[cobalt skiff]

https://pokepast.es/56aa48c2c9451e68

[celest merlin]

New [Gen 9] National Dex RMT @limber crypt, @pale spear, @cobalt skiff, @crude stump, @hardy flint. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

[cobalt skiff]

Made this trick room team, struggles bad with mega Lopunny but idk what to add to fix that

[knotty copper]

maybe try a enamorus therian over exploud close combat is way to free into your team right now and being able to throw off a moonblast for free on that cc will fix the lopuny problem another thing you could try is tera types that resist fighting

[lofty frost]

https://pokepast.es/3e4ab51068dee8ae

[celest merlin]

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[dusk flare]

tusk is a questionable slot on anything not named ho because it doesn't really do much distinct from lando aside from spin; i'd just make it a fog lando here + make ferro stealth rock > spikes

ferro should be using a spread of 252 HP / 40 Def / 216 SpD with an impish nature as well, let's it pivot in on stuff like ogerpon and dnite more frequently

dnite can just be a galarian slowking as this lacks counterplay to iron valiant otherwise, and im pretty sure you forgot evs on mega mawile. make that knock off > fire fang as well, more useful for basically any slower target (ferro and sciz dislike it as well anw)

[charred parcel]

I had an idea but idk

Hoopa unbound can steal an item with a move if it lacks one

so i was thinking to run a Z move with it

do big damage then yoink an item

https://pokepast.es/b2962b5c6cea68d8

[celest merlin]

New [Gen 9] National Dex RMT @limber crypt, @pale spear, @crude stump, @hardy flint. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

[hollow basalt]

https://pokepast.es/75e0d3a2b63823c7
Put this team together last night, it's a combination of the best parts of the last few teams I've come up with
I think it's a decent amount more coherent than the rillaboom ones I like and it's got a pretty positive win rate around 1500-1550 on ladder so far

Good matchups into pretty much all weather and stall
I think it's a bit weak to offense and stuff like psyspam but if I play well zama can easily steal a game against a team who's only got physical attackers or steel resists left

[brave valve]

I think there’s a couple things you can change about this like for example, Lando would be better than Tusk for a team like this, as Tusk is only seen on offensive teams
also glow king should always run regenerator as curious medicine is kind of useless in singles. also a move like slack off or thunder wave might be a better choice than toxic spikes. if you want some sort of hazard on the enemy team, you could try replacing taunt with stealth rock on heatran

[feral canopy]

u lose to a lot of big phys attackers like lop and the like and u have no proper speed control

[brave valve]

https://pokepast.es/b6a7a96dc74b3f52

[celest merlin]

New [Gen 9] National Dex RMT @limber crypt, @pale spear, @crude stump, @hardy flint. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

[hardy flint]

oh no i have to do my job

[brave valve]

oh no

I just realized it’s like 3 AM

hopefully I didn’t wake anyone up

[hardy flint]

diff tz/ they cope cuz they’re helping

uhm

i don’t see anything too out of place

seems well balsnced

my only issue is u get 6-0d by gouging fire

Par tera dragon zapdos

ooo

Twave > flamethrower on glowking imo

[brave valve]

all right, I’ll make that adjustment

I just like surprise hitting guys like thorn

it’s always funny

[hardy flint]

also i personally Like my banded Zama w Cc/stone edge/heavy slam/crunch

yeah true

[brave valve]

yeah, but wild charge counters. A lot of normally problematic guys in my experience.

that the other moves don’t cover

then I can just swap to a pivot/defensive when they tried to switch to ground

i’ll agree that thunder wave is probably better than heat wave in this scenario though

crunch is pretty debateable but as I already have zap, I should probably go crunch

I appreciate the help

[pale spear]

no u dont

[hardy flint]

true

gn

LMFAOO

[brave valve]

definitely going to keep ice fang on Zama though, so I can kill Gliss and chipped flying types

[hardy flint]

CHEIS TAKE OVER

@pale spear

[pale spear]

nope

no working

[hardy flint]

nope

ur doing ur

or else.

it*

[pale spear]

bye byeeee

[hardy flint]

i’m reporting h

[hollow basalt]

https://pokepast.es/04704b0ea2cf60a4 something like this should be better? t-wave + an extra fast mon for more speed control, more reliable hazards, extra pivoting
not going regenerator on glowking was the 4am me forgetting to change it
intim on lando also helps with the physical attacker problem, I think zama + intim should be more than enough

[celest merlin]

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[hollow basalt]

and I have an actual ground immunity now too xd

[hardy violet]

i think i just shat myself

[dusky carbon]

type shi

[hollow basalt]

new legendary just dropped
shit memory silvally

[cobalt skiff]

https://pokepast.es/b9b42e7290551622

[celest merlin]

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[cobalt skiff]

Is my team good? Anyone know a better set I can put in crustle?

[spring imp]

https://pokepast.es/639c3851051b5c4a
how's this team? also rate the guy above me

[celest merlin]

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[pale spear]

putting landorus > gliscor shld be enough to get u a very solid standard offense team

gliscor is a bit passive here, lando intim and uturn go a long way

the zama set is a little outdated, nowadays they tend to run stuff like heavy slam and crunch > wild charge, esp since future sight lele breaks pex for u