NatDex OU Rates

[gentle crystal]

huh

[cold fog]

then they swap to ghold or something then what

[feral canopy]

then u go tar and pursuit

or u set up rocks

or double to drill and sd

if glisc tox's ferro then its free momentum

if it eqs rotom same thing

if it eqs ferro it does like 20 max and 90% of it gets healed by lefties

even in the worst case scenario u always have an out multiple times

[dusky carbon]

Wow

Adem is back

[limber crypt]

no this is actually just his prison

[marsh blaze]

https://pokepast.es/f095dfb97a02f138
My first time making semi-stall

And as someone has said in the nd ps chat im too low ladder for hoopa to be beneficial

So should i change it

[tepid fern]

help https://pokepast.es/471e002977578b1b

[marsh blaze]

https://pokepast.es/54ca123fb8ca03f2
Made a version with bax

[feral canopy]

go AWAYYYYYYY

[vast tendon]

https://pokepast.es/9b6de96a289bf65f

[celest merlin]

New NatDex OU RMT @limber crypt, @pale spear, @cobalt skiff. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

[limber crypt]

^helpless

[limber crypt]

This seems a bit all over the place; can i ask what you built this around?

[vast tendon]

well ive been running alo gliscor and dengo together and i quite like it. wanted to try out yzard as well. then noticed team has a bit of a hard time with lando/gliscor so i added bax

[limber crypt]

Interesting; id actually go weav > bax then

[vast tendon]

sd? @limber crypt

[cobalt skiff]

yeah weaviles a great fit with yzard, I'd prefer SD boots on that team cuz an SD ice shard gives you great speed control to finish off anything that outspeeds yzard. also it'd be an issue if your two best offensive options were both weak to stealth rock

[limber crypt]

cb, deals with grounds and pursuits the uncommon latis

[vast tendon]

🫡

[cobalt skiff]

wouldnt it be an issue tho for both weavile and yzard to be weak to SR

[pale spear]

if ur using yard ur alr committing to having good removal

so u might as well have weav

[tired bear]

https://pokepast.es/f6df1cb3a9d92f89

[celest merlin]

New NatDex OU RMT @limber crypt, @pale spear, @cobalt skiff. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

[tired bear]

Thanks @celest merlin

[marsh blaze]

Not even eq on tusk?

[potent blade]

https://pokepast.es/fcef09bfeaff2b5f
https://pokepast.es/37cab7432f5cd87b
the two teams I used for a video I recently made, wanted to know if there were any things I could've done better with the team

the team centered around Kommo-o (because the video did) but I really enjoyed using the team and wanted to know if there were any optimizations I could try on the team

[tepid fern]

For hat, maybe consider leftovers over life orb, since it seems more centered around utility rather than offense (MB, MF).

[tired bear]

Rillaboom

[tepid fern]

https://pokepast.es/471e002977578b1b

[celest merlin]

New NatDex OU RMT @limber crypt, @pale spear, @cobalt skiff. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

[limber crypt]

this is a bit strange for webs and i honesrly think webs isnt worth w/o ghold

i would make this screens so koko > ribombee, bax > zardx, sd sneas, and rockpon > gren

[tepid fern]

any way to include a mega, no rational reason i just really wanna include a mega

[woven garden]

Thinking about adding swords dance shadow sneak iron head Aegi

[potent blade]

I think I'll try it with that, had a few places where life orb hurt more than it helped, thanks for the recommendation

[cobalt skiff]

https://pokepast.es/559b45029e934df1

[weak sonnet]

https://pokepast.es/194f27120acc44eb

Went 8-0 with it

Very surprise factor-y team

https://pokepast.es/d165adcc19cccfad

Went 12-3 with this one

Just very strong, 3 ways to set up, Unaware mon + Wish passer for opposing set up, and certified stall beater

[tepid fern]

dang is ponrock making a comeback or something?

[weak sonnet]

He's unbelieveably strong idk why not many people use him

Fast rock types are usually good

[limber crypt]

mgyara instead of rockpon should work

[limber crypt]

I think its kinda underexplored, sturdy is actually a p dece ability on ho and grass/rock/fighting coverage is hard to handle with no dengo

[limber crypt]

I think mlop > mlati, pex > dirge, ferro > muk, make rockpon sd cudgel whammer/horn leech superpower, and make lando standard defensive should work for this

Tryna make the team more offense focused, specs ival might be better for the team as well

[weak sonnet]

Muk can OHKO almost anything with it's Z and its bulky enough to live even boosted nve hits

mlati keeps the team alive with Wish passing and it can scare in a gliscor and kill with unexpected ice beam

Dirge is mainly for unaware but the snowballing is crazy

Lando I could def change

And rockpon without speedboost cant rlly sweep with all the iron vals and mlops

[celest merlin]

New NatDex OU RMT @limber crypt, @pale spear, @cobalt skiff, @cobalt skiff. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

[tepid fern]

Ye coverage funny. Also lol didn’t know gold got banned let’s go

[vast tendon]

https://pokepast.es/e7e9cb759860e4c8

[cold fog]

just got banned yesterday

during tiershifts

but now that gholds gone we need baxc sneasler and possibly val gone aswell

[tepid fern]

glad they finally banned the offensive powerhouse that blocks hazard removal and has steel draco meteor

Baxc def, idk about val, sneasler is fine.

[cold fog]

sneasler is not fine

[marsh blaze]

Sneasler is not at all fine idk what your talking about

[tepid fern]

wait i just remembered tera exist +unburden

yeah get that cat tf out of here

litteraly just OP Hawlucha

[marsh blaze]

Pretty sure this is for full teams

So just go to the NatDex discord or smth

[woven garden]

You able to send me a invite to it?

[marsh blaze]

https://discord.com/invite/z87Tasen

[woven garden]

I can't verify so this is pretty useless

[marsh blaze]

Wdym

[marsh blaze]

Just add a discord tag in the settings of your forum

[woven garden]

Huh? I did

[marsh blaze]

Did you migrate to the new discord name system

If you did then i don't think you need the # and numbers

[woven garden]

I still have a tag

[marsh blaze]

Just try without the # and numbers

[woven garden]

Doesn't work

[marsh blaze]

Idk then you'd prob have to ask the mods on the server or smth

[marsh blaze]

https://pokepast.es/7d08c181297d2a23

[celest merlin]

New NatDex OU RMT @limber crypt, @pale spear, @cobalt skiff. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

[marsh blaze]

[cold fog]

i dont love ogerpon on there

[vast tendon]

https://pokepast.es/2c183e1d1f80abe2 losing to lando and glisc

genuinly think subroost kyurem could help here

[dusky carbon]

U need a ground imo

tran>ground

<

[marsh blaze]

https://pokepast.es/4282a034cb31c0ee
Copied my dl team

Ignore the team i replied to

[olive summit]

https://pokepast.es/e2770639d495b7b3
So uhhh the string cheese man got banned and may need a replacement

[celest merlin]

New NatDex OU RMT @limber crypt, @pale spear, @cobalt skiff, @cobalt skiff. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

[vast tendon]

bm?

actually tusk prob good team needs more speed

even chomp might work

[celest merlin]

New NatDex OU RMT @limber crypt, @pale spear, @cobalt skiff. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

[signal dust]

https://pokepast.es/761f09a77601b4cb how do i make this better?

[little haven]

I was at home watching youtube when phone ring

"gholdengo is kil"

"no"

i am not the best player in the world but you have solar beam heatran with no sunsetter at all

[marsh blaze]

Grassium Z

[little haven]

still

two turm move

[marsh blaze]

Kartana runs stuff like normalium Z giga impact

[little haven]

For me its a waste of a slot when you can go scarf set

[green notch]

https://pokepast.es/2b528da03f744419

[celest merlin]

New NatDex OU RMT @limber crypt, @pale spear, @cobalt skiff. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

[green notch]

@limber crypt @pale spear @cobalt skiff

Oh

Fk sorry for double ping 😭

Wanna improve the team

[feral canopy]

please dont give advice if u dont know what u r talking about

grassium z solar beam is a normal set on heatran

it is only meant to be used once in 90% of games

[feral canopy]

scarf is garbage

[pale spear]

Ok

[pale spear]

Specs blood moon isnt great, i would use a more standard cm set but if u wanna go specs run stabs/hyper voice/ vacuum; Zama idl idef on this type of team and i think a standard offensive zama would be better - u can run z elec howl to snipe pex or alternatively run sand tomb sciz for pex which frees up zama to run 4a (band vs boots ur choice altho i wld def do boots if running specs blood moon); Also can do tornadus > zapdos if u want because im not sure on if zama is enough as the sole fast option

[green notch]

Hoy my rain MU if without Zap?

How*

[pale spear]

should be fine, mola wishing and tera grass tran absorb hit and then blood moon is a gigantic threat

[green notch]

Hmm aight. The rest is fine ig? Only torn > zap and make zama Z elec?

[pale spear]

yeah and change bm set

[green notch]

Ah yes. Wuts the spread of CM BM?

[pale spear]

can literally be whatever u want

i like 176 spat w/ modest to ohko glisc w +1 blood moon, 68 speed for clefable, and rest in hp and spdef

[green notch]

So I just need to outspeed clef?

[pale spear]

U can do more for stuff like pelipper/scizor but u end up comprising a lot more bill

[limber crypt]

ferro > sneas, tera water lando, i would also drop tusk for another fogger (torn ig) bc two grounds is not ideal

[feral canopy]

toyota

[marsh blaze]

https://pokepast.es/2f25728ac28f1012

[celest merlin]

New NatDex OU RMT @limber crypt, @pale spear, @cobalt skiff, @cobalt skiff. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

[feral canopy]

u really like ogerpon landorus and heatran huh

[marsh blaze]

I seem to gravitate to that core so prob

[limber crypt]

why hydra? My instinct would be to make it lele, but im curious abt ur reasoning

Other than that idr see issues with the team

[marsh blaze]

levitate for gking, dark typing to complete the fighting/dark/psychic core and have a psychic immunity for shifu, dragon typing which has some nice resistances for shifu aswell and for some power with specs

I'm not good at making descriptions

Why would i run Lele on this team?

[limber crypt]

its just more offensively potent and i havent seen hydrei in a non stall capacity for a long time

given that u want hydrei for all kf that, i think an alternativeoption is mlatios > drei and smth like ferro > glowking

but thats ur choice

[marsh blaze]

I'll try it

[marsh blaze]

https://pokepast.es/6b0b150ae8f997d3
Anything i should change on the sets

[limber crypt]

Looks good to me

[marsh blaze]

https://pokepast.es/5b3fdeab0c2a063f
Ocky man gave me this team after mentioning ogerpon-c since ghold is gone. is there anything that can be improved.

[celest merlin]

New NatDex OU RMT @limber crypt, @pale spear, @cobalt skiff. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

[marsh blaze]

[green notch]

https://pokepast.es/891b7b29724a17e0 @pale spear this fine? Took a long while to edit the team sorry

[pale spear]

ye htis looks good

[green notch]

Aight thankss

[green notch]

Bro

Rain slapped me too hard

Tera water floatzel 2hkoes my Alo

And even ohkoes my Tran in full

Welp not rlly ohko since it was chipped but bruh

That hits like a truck

[misty zephyr]

😱😱😂😂

[marsh blaze]

https://pokepast.es/b9ee96a3d5ebdd0b

[celest merlin]

New NatDex OU RMT @limber crypt, @pale spear, @cobalt skiff, @cobalt skiff. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

[marsh blaze]

[limber crypt]

gking > slowking, mlop > zoro should work for this

[marsh blaze]

https://pokepast.es/f21119e4c2b934f4

The sets fine?

[limber crypt]

Colbur glowking, banded zap

[marsh blaze]

Why colbur?

[limber crypt]

Its probably not as necessary with no gambit, but i still think its nice to not have to switch out of a dark mon after fsight

Also helps vs weav and ttar still

[nova vapor]

Hey how is this https://pokepast.es/c45b5f3042fc7c78

This is my first nat dex team ive ever made. Do I have too much steal on the team or is gliscor and toxapex enough to help.

[celest merlin]

New NatDex OU RMT @limber crypt, @pale spear, @cobalt skiff, @cobalt skiff. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

[pale spear]

this sorta resembles a very famous structure used in smou and adapted to gen8nd

with mtar/drill/kart and then pex/zap/celes

as a defensive core

u cant rly have all 3 of maw drill and kart

bc all of them are offensive steels, meaning u dont have ways to prevent stuff like lele that steels r usually used for from breaking ur entire team

[nova vapor]

I didnt play sm ou I just tried to go with what made sense, what do you think I should change?

[timber bison]

https://pokepast.es/ca648717372a97e0

[nova vapor]

Swapped mawile out for heatran to tank lele

https://pokepast.es/daaff32ed1b3f60d

[green notch]

Ya lol the Ttar Kart Drill trios haha

I was used to play SM ou a lot, I almost got the rater role here in the server too

But I liked gen 9 now lol

[pale spear]

i think sticking with the standard sturcture would be best here i.e. zapdos > glisc (you need a switch to kart) and then go w mega tar as an offensive rocker

depending on how you want to stcuture ur team u can go a couple directions from there

[green notch]

Is hybrid weather still viable? I mean ttar + ZardY?

[pale spear]

u can go z normal drill as u have rn accompanied by either defog zap or a defog corv over tran, which frees u up to run 3a on zap

[green notch]

Then drill + pex

[pale spear]

or u can go spin on drill over giga impact, which lets u run both 3a zap and a less passive steel like heatran or celesteela

[pale spear]

nr

[green notch]

Ahh sed

[pale spear]

it hasnt been used in a long time

vile is generally better

[green notch]

Air balloon Pex exists?

Lol from black sludge from SM, to shed shell to SS, and now air balloon in SV

[nova vapor]

Dunno I only used it for extra ground immunity

[green notch]

@nova vapor go with this

[green notch]

And this

[nova vapor]

Im making the changes rn

[green notch]

3a Zap stronk ngl

Send the team after

[nova vapor]

Do I use defensive 3attack zap or offensive.

[green notch]

U can go Defensive RH with 3a

ryt @pale spear

Just to deal kart

[nova vapor]

I was gonna say defensive cuz otherwise knock off kills.

[pale spear]

defensive yeah

[nova vapor]

Also hp fire or grass

[pale spear]

but dont go helmet u wanna have boots

discharge/volt , heat wave, hpice

[green notch]

Zapdos @ Heavy-Duty Boots
Ability: Static
EVs: 248 HP / 220 Def / 40 Spe
IVs: 0 Atk
Tera Type: Steel
Timid Nature

• Heat Wave
• Roost
• Volt Switch
• Hurricane/HP Ice

Or that yea

[pale spear]

i would go more speed, around 80 evs + timid so u outspeed timid tran and glisc by extension

[nova vapor]

Tera? This is for gen 8

[pale spear]

that way u hit glisc w strong hpices before it gets to roost

[nova vapor]

Gen 8 nat, I really dont like gen 9's pretty poor balance.

Didnt even play nat ou in gen 9, I just dont like gen 9 that much rn

[green notch]

Lol I didn't noticed

mb

[nova vapor]

I would die if I had to deal with tera fire or grass kart

Just flip a coin if its tera grass get one shot, if its tera fire, cant burn or ohko it and it can just sweep from that one wrong guess. Sounds fun. Is that true? Dunno but either way tera kart sounds awful.

https://pokepast.es/0853e2d6a3bf5236 there

[green notch]

Why the tran has that 136 speed evs?

[green notch]

Wait a sec, @pale spear rock Z Chomp is p hard to deal with this team

Also Smart strike > Return on Kart

If u running Rapid spin, go steelium ig? Not sure

Z Rapid spin is like base 100 power only iirc

[pale spear]

ye steelium

[pale spear]

rockium chomp is difficult but w good pivoting between kart and zap threatening w hpice its doable

[green notch]

Welp ig he rlly needs to keep the balloon on pex

[cobalt skiff]

gholdengo is gone so i figured i'd make this https://pokepast.es/145b9e4e1fa8e552

[celest merlin]

New NatDex OU RMT @limber crypt, @pale spear, @cobalt skiff. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

[green notch]

Owo a cursed stall

[marsh blaze]

https://pokepast.es/49cd2e397a16fc33

[feral canopy]

ur sole lele counterplay is teraing boots gking

[marsh blaze]

Then what should i change

[zenith jolt]

https://pokepast.es/5cdc8a531ad460ac can someone rat my ndou ho team

[marsh blaze]

New team didn't like that one
https://pokepast.es/9e90796c755c25c2

[celest merlin]

New NatDex OU RMT @limber crypt, @pale spear, @cobalt skiff, @cobalt skiff. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

[marsh blaze]

Is it a fat team also chino said i wanted smth to bring ogerpon in

I just picked a mon i thought would be ight

I can change it if needed

Maybe to a kart

[zenith jolt]

can someone rate this team next?

[marsh blaze]

[marsh blaze]

What's the use of tera water rona

[feral canopy]

i dont see what shifu does here at all

seems like u tried to make stall then put a shifu rs

[lusty basalt]

https://pokepast.es/d3d69a5a715defd2

havent played in a long while so I was wondering if this team is still decent

[nova vapor]

Should I replace drill with mawhile https://pokepast.es/6cdfb5ab4194e344

[feral canopy]

looks like it gets fucked by slurgerpon

since ur water resist is washtom

[lusty basalt]

is that a new mon

[feral canopy]

yes

its like ludicolo

but physical

110 base speed

has swords dance and a grass type crab hammer

and water absorb

and has a built in life orb as its ability

[nova vapor]

Would that make terra rock chomp easier to deal with or does eq one shot

[marsh blaze]

Ogerpon-Wellspring

[marsh blaze]

Teambuilding moment
https://pokepast.es/3317520cdbdda1ca

[celest merlin]

New NatDex OU RMT @limber crypt, @pale spear, @cobalt skiff. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

[green notch]

Steelium Z on Excadrill Broo, Z Rapid spin only has base 100

[feral canopy]

what is slowking for here

[marsh blaze]

FSight support

[feral canopy]

for who

this is literally a semi stall

what r u gonna try and break the pex for ur dondonzo to sweep 😭

[marsh blaze]

Then what

[feral canopy]

idk i dont build this tier

@pale spear

wake up

altho ur team@has no real wincon

unless dondonzo is one.

[pale spear]

i saw r8 build smth like this vs me

and i owned it w specs aegislash

[feral canopy]

ofc he did.

[feral canopy]

😐

the solution. is

[marsh blaze]

🗿

[feral canopy]

good regen mon

instead of slowking

boom

i am a genius

[pale spear]

ye

use pex/mola

[feral canopy]

i knew it

[pale spear]

over king

[marsh blaze]

Ight

[feral canopy]

INKNWW IT

god

this tier is so EASY @pale spear

[pale spear]

u didnt know abt the zera change tho

[feral canopy]

.

fuck u

[marsh blaze]

True

[feral canopy]

ur lucky were mot in (redacted)

🕊️🕊️🕊️

[pale spear]

pex/mola (prob mola) over sking, then torn over lop

is a starting point

[marsh blaze]

https://pokepast.es/33cf3c1c82363eb0

[pale spear]

theres some sets that need to be fixed up asw

[marsh blaze]

Ok

[feral canopy]

TORNADUS THERINA

[marsh blaze]

Like what

[feral canopy]

chris

what if insyead

we made this

[pale spear]

for torn go cane, fog, then 2 of taunt/toxic/knock/focus

[feral canopy]

reuniclus lopunny gliscor skarmory chansey toxapex

but u make toxapex

[pale spear]

glisc needs to be spdef and have eq, prob over tox, dondozo need sleep talk over either press or curse

[feral canopy]

alomamola

[pale spear]

LOL

🔥

[feral canopy]

im a genius man.

i am literally like

[pale spear]

im gonna tell ryuji to bring that to pl finals

[feral canopy]

an inventor

call me charles darwin

call me

leonardo da vinci

[pale spear]

didnt charles darwin discover evolution

not invent it

[feral canopy]

.

shut up

stupid

dont ruin my moment

[feral canopy]

dud

WHAT BEATS IT

everything is fone

no ghold

no gambut

IT WINS

@neon olive am@i correct or WHAT

[pale spear]

bro

no donzo

[feral canopy]

.

atfu

dcdaa

[pale spear]

u get owned by the big 3

[feral canopy]

donzo sucks

what is the big 3

[pale spear]

bax/sneas/oger

[feral canopy]

.

dud u got skarm

[pale spear]

bax spear

[feral canopy]

URGHHHHHHHHBBBB

no way

just tera

steel

or not steel actually

[pale spear]

.

[feral canopy]

idk.

[pale spear]

tera steel skarm

good one

[feral canopy]

.

WHAT

its goo

d

ok tera water

boom

[marsh blaze]

https://pokepast.es/08f7ac493a609d97 this fine?

[feral canopy]

goodbye baxcalbur

[pale spear]

yeah shld be

[feral canopy]

surely

pjab clod isnt needed

anymore

taunt np torn is not real anywhere

and no ghold

[pale spear]

act ur right

u can go tox/amn now

[feral canopy]

amnesia

.

schizo

[marsh blaze]

Amnesia 💀

[pale spear]

bro

blood moon copium

[feral canopy]

😐

jusy tox it

surely

[pale spear]

poison type trera

[marsh blaze]

Also how's this team i won't use for a long time since I'm too low ladder to find stall teams
https://pokepast.es/11563bc71c8e9dae

[pale spear]

@feral canopy unlucky

[green notch]

Is the hoopa-U p random here

[neon olive]

this is not being an inventor

this is being a recycler

[feral canopy]

he sucks + hes wromg + french

[feral canopy]

No

u wouldnt understand.

[neon olive]

♻️

[marsh blaze]

Second team i made today
https://pokepast.es/6039654f28962f5c

👍

[celest merlin]

New NatDex OU RMT @limber crypt, @pale spear, @cobalt skiff. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

[marsh blaze]

Is it the second?

Idk

[vast tendon]

need help with hazard control

https://pokepast.es/b5c79e7690bf6be6

[queen hemlock]

https://pokepast.es/fc1cb3afd1eb02c1 this is my National dex team..

[cobalt skiff]

updated https://pokepast.es/fe457cebad0db345

[celest merlin]

New NatDex OU RMT @limber crypt, @pale spear, @cobalt skiff, @cobalt skiff. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

[lusty valve]

https://pokepast.es/0fbac642d4b430cd

What do I add on this HO team

[green notch]

Adem doesn't rate Nd anymore?

[spiral pond]

Can I team dump?

So yes I guess?:
https://pokepast.es/13737b2f1188b8c8
https://pokepast.es/28151d172d914fc5
https://pokepast.es/96e36c83aae5f397
https://pokepast.es/a753780936c33d16
https://pokepast.es/c5662579317b02cc
Notes:
• Volcanion Rillaboom doesn't have a mega, but idk what to replace.
• I made all these except the MBee one before the Dengo ban.
• Idk if I should use WP or Sitrus on Goltres (Mew Screens)

[green notch]

Why u got eject pack on Hatterene when u don't have moves that lowers stat?

[marsh blaze]

https://pokepast.es/acba5d2fc2a7ab9c

[spiral pond]

Oh, I should make it CM mb

[green notch]

But still don't use eject pack lol

[manic helm]

https://pokepast.es/5dbdf99a8a4e5c7b made a new team, any advice?

[celest merlin]

New NatDex OU RMT @limber crypt, @pale spear, @cobalt skiff. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

[marsh blaze]

What

[marsh blaze]

Hidin actually rating teams?

[marsh blaze]

Wouldn't Power whip be better over Horn leech on ogerpon?

[queen hemlock]

Where is this

[marsh blaze]

Does this count as hstack?

[marsh blaze]

What are the EVs on tusk, ttar, gking, corv for if you don't mind me asking?

Ight thanks

I'm wondering what the use of 212 speed is

Ok

[feral canopy]

corv beats the blood moon guy?

[tardy slate]

it doesn't, it's just sponge and u-turn out ig

[feral canopy]

to what tho

i assume ogerpon but like

what abt when it teras

[cobalt skiff]

alright thanks

also why toxic + toxic spikes

[lyric kindle]

Nat Dex team https://pokepast.es/61af2c228009b122

[celest merlin]

New NatDex OU RMT @limber crypt, @pale spear, @cobalt skiff, @cobalt skiff. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

[green notch]

This looks not that good rips. I refer u to sampless https://www.smogon.com/forums/threads/national-dex-sample-teams.3714863/

[vast tendon]

https://pokepast.es/c8525c13ac2ef57d i wanted to go for more bo but this starting to look like ho

[celest merlin]

New NatDex OU RMT @limber crypt, @pale spear, @cobalt skiff. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

[green notch]

It looks like balance for me rather than BO haha

[marsh blaze]

Sorry for the ping but could i get the celesteela set for this team?

[manic helm]

https://pokepast.es/e64ab91cc79aeb0d

[cold fog]

https://pokepast.es/bc1486df0435bcd4

Any advice?

Been winning 5/6 games

[marsh blaze]

https://pokepast.es/247cb1f8c2e7a977

[celest merlin]

New NatDex OU RMT @limber crypt, @pale spear, @cobalt skiff. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

[feral canopy]

u have no dark resists with 3 dark weak mons

[cold fog]

yeah ik but idk what to change with

[marsh blaze]

Can someone rate this please?

Idk what Luna EVs to run

So i just ran something from oculars's HO team

Oculars: spdef for some spdef shit u need to live 48 spe for outrunning 28 spe blud
Atk is Atk
HP is for shifu somehow

[potent blade]

https://pokepast.es/77b9416f3a65e99d
need advice for this team

[celest merlin]

New NatDex OU RMT @limber crypt, @pale spear, @dusk flare, @cobalt skiff. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

[cold fog]

I swapped Lele for scarf fini

[cold fog]

Should probably use hp evs on ferry rather than spdf

And don’t forget to add the 4 extra ones

[vast tendon]

https://pokepast.es/de38084415a7461d ik this prob shit but i want feedback

[celest merlin]

New NatDex OU RMT @limber crypt, @pale spear, @cobalt skiff, @cobalt skiff. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

[vast tendon]

what kinda gking

av? boots?

also i put mag cuz team struggles with corv ferro and sciz

threatens mswampert

or at least helps

if alo goes down against rain its not fun

[cold fog]

https://pokepast.es/ec974734d715ae10

[marsh blaze]

https://pokepast.es/79f027e28b8b6026

[cold fog]

uve posted tihs team like 3 times in 2 different discords

[marsh blaze]

Oh wrong paste

Not at home rn can't edit it

[timber bison]

https://pokepast.es/ca648717372a97e0

main issue rn i would say is garg

[cold fog]

i would do subroost kyurem

and change tera to like steel or sm

[timber bison]

subroost freeze dry earth power?

[cold fog]

Yeah

And get rid of zmove

For like boots or something

[marsh blaze]

https://pokepast.es/d6ea58ce01fa16a0

[celest merlin]

New NatDex OU RMT @limber crypt, @pale spear, @cobalt skiff. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

[cold fog]

swords dance uturn?

[marsh blaze]

I mean that's just the sample set and what alot of people use

[cold fog]

uh huh

i have never seen anyone use that set before

[marsh blaze]

Ok

[feral canopy]

that is one of the most common scizor sets

and the only scizor set that has existed since mega scizor has existed

[cold fog]

i have never seen it before 😭

[feral canopy]

you dont play enough

[cold fog]

idk i peaked 1900 so far

[feral canopy]

good for you

uturn is used on more than 60% of mega scizor on ladder

its was by far the most common set last gen too up until the last few months

and the most popular set in sm

[cold fog]

yeah but sd with uturn?

[feral canopy]

yes lol

[cold fog]

huh

[feral canopy]

in sm it was pretty much the only set too

[cold fog]

alright

[feral canopy]

uturn has always been the most used 4th move though

on sd sets

[cold fog]

huh

thats kind of weird to me

[feral canopy]

not really

its uturns hit hard

[cold fog]

yeah fair

[feral canopy]

and it cant sweep early on with bp

hence you uturn on everything

[cold fog]

yeah fair enough

[feral canopy]

then you win with sd bp

[cold fog]

anyways now that ur here can u rmt

https://pokepast.es/82dfa15a95a6ad7a

[feral canopy]

Mo

[misty zephyr]

Cool team, its missing something important though

[feral canopy]

No

[feral canopy]

why r u here

[cold fog]

ok

[cold fog]

which is?

[misty zephyr]

Your ig

[cold fog]

um

[feral canopy]

😐😐😐

[little haven]

https://pokepast.es/d7350e62b17271f8 wdyt, due to gholdengo ban i run shadowball and flash cannon on armorouge, any changes i should make?

[little haven]

shes thai not worth

[cold fog]

huh

[green notch]

https://pokepast.es/92cbd7f990c37c6c @pale spear hi! remember this team? I may ask if how can I deal gliscor with this team? I know Ursa won't be used next week, but I might use this on a tour lol

That is within this week

[pale spear]

Against defensive tox sets u can just pivot between mola and torn

Vs sd offensive bm 1v1s

Sciz also uses defensive for fodder/momentum

[green notch]

SD Sciz fine?

With U-turn BP and roost?

[pale spear]

Yeah

[green notch]

How abt sneasler?

Wait ursa can 1v1 it too ryt?

[manic helm]

https://pokepast.es/e64ab91cc79aeb0d any change should I make?

[pale spear]

Idk tbf

[pale spear]

Prob?

[green notch]

Tera flying sneasler scary

[green notch]

How abt rain floatzel?

it 2hkoes my Alo lmao

[pale spear]

It’s gonna need to take a shit on recoil to break with crash

U can limit how much it attack

By saccong anything useless asw

[green notch]

Hmm I see

Might sac BM if I am against Rain ig?

Or Scizor

[pale spear]

Ye

Or even torn cld be pr useless

[green notch]

Though TG Manaphy a bit hard to deal, good thing I had Zama

[tawdry imp]

https://pokepast.es/b7d3972c5a1d89af

[marsh blaze]

Bluna got banned

So you need a replacement

[tawdry imp]

I know that, rate the team as it is

[marsh blaze]

https://pokepast.es/1390d2aeaea01531

[celest merlin]

New NatDex OU RMT @limber crypt, @pale spear, @cobalt skiff. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

[marsh blaze]

Should i go sitrus over boots on g-molt

[subtle lance]

https://pokepast.es/232a6fc37186bdde

[celest merlin]

New NatDex OU RMT @limber crypt, @pale spear, @cobalt skiff, @cobalt skiff. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

[cold fog]

i think the rmt people are tired of u 😭

[subtle lance]

i am very original and am running an honest team

also ground move > giga drain on volc or not lol

[cold fog]

I would say so

[subtle lance]

fair lol

[cold fog]

otherwise just walled by tran

and ceruledge if u run into one

[vast tendon]

https://pokepast.es/1e497d3a7b90cc3a not in need of a full rate just want some opinions on potential changes im thinking of. im considering putting zapdos in over kart but that might mess with my matchup against rain. if i were to do that i would put ice beam on glowking

evs on gking are to survive +2 knock off from bulky msciz

[green notch]

Running two Sui leads reduce the number of sweepers lmao. U might want to pick 1 only

idk

Just an opinion

[green notch]

https://pokepast.es/ceb19051a418c554

@cobalt skiff

Or spikes meow better?

[marsh blaze]

You only really need 1 lead

[cobalt skiff]

any way i can make this team be able to deal with heatran https://pokepast.es/a738984cb7a79600

[subtle lance]

The

Isnt it 1 screener and 1 lead generally

On screens ho

[green notch]

No lmao, ur suic lead is either hazards or screens. If u pick screens, then don't use a suicide hazard setter

U can put hazards like rocks on one of the wallbreakers too, if they learn it

[feral canopy]

u can use both

ur not forced to use either or

or both

[subtle lance]

I can put rocks on kommo maybe but i see where youre going

Cool lol ty

[marsh blaze]

https://pokepast.es/6e55bc3de8b291f6

🗿

[celest merlin]

New NatDex OU RMT @limber crypt, @pale spear, @cobalt skiff. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

[limber crypt]

Think sd pads ursh is better overall, but this looks fine otherwise

sd/ss/cc/taunt

[marsh blaze]

Ok

[marsh blaze]

What's the difference between protective pads and punching gloves

Nvm found out

https://pokepast.es/2596824e2fa21bde

Updated

[limber crypt]

Whoops i meant glove

(Gloves block unseen fist on punching moves fsr but thats not a huge deal unless u face tect gliscor on ladder every day)

[marsh blaze]

Ok

[marsh blaze]

Btw am i able to use tpunch over taunt on Shifu?

Since i have taunt on tran

[limber crypt]

Its ur choice, reason i thought taunt would be better is bc this team pressures pex alot already and ajet w/ lele is kinda iffy

taunt nukes mola too which can be a soft ursh roadblock too

[marsh blaze]

Ight

[mellow zinc]

Can someone help me? I wanna make the best team out of my 6 fav mons and I got pretty far. However I have some issues:

• I am unsure about tyranitar ev split (I would prefer full special def but I have no physical wall besides politoed)
• Giving Kecleon assault vest would give my team more special bulk, so I could invest more defense in tyranitar but I would lose revenge killer pressure on kecleon when cutting life orb
• I lack some special offense: Does a special coverage move on tyranitar makes sense? (it would surprise enemies but it would be a waste for the good attack stat)
• Its hard to break walls (especially steel type combinations who resist fighting)
• Should I add defog on scyther? When replacing roost I would need heavy duty boots but evolite seems important for tanking hits when I switch in.
• Is poison jab or steel wing better as coverage against fairies on sirfetchd? Poison jab is the better move but most fairy types I faced were rock/fairy or steel/fairy

I do play it in OU thats why I post here (but I consider switching to UU)

https://pokepast.es/983c1681169fa14a

[celest merlin]

New NatDex OU RMT @limber crypt, @pale spear, @cobalt skiff. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

[tired bear]

Don’t change a thing

[mellow zinc]

Well I am pretty confident you have to adjust at least the (Tryanitar) EV spreads, but I dont know if its better to have mixed walls or just one wall for special def and one for def

[tired bear]

Don’t know what you’re aiming to do with that ev spread but something to consider is base 100s can run 400hp for a tiny amount of extra recovery? Not exactly sure how it works, I’m sure someone will correct me but if you’re interested I’ll link the page

https://www.smogon.com/rs/articles/magic_stat_numbers

[feral canopy]

switch to uu

or like

the lowest possible tier u can play with these mons

i assume u can drop to ru if u drop tar

maybe u will have some hope there

but half these mons are complete garbage in every usage based tier natdex has

the other half are just really bad in most of them

[mellow zinc]

Well I try to either go full defense on tar, so I can tank on both sides, because sandstorm makes my special defense to 354 and my defense would be 350 or I just go full special def

[mellow zinc]

I mean I know those arent the best, but you could still improve the sets, what I am aiming to do

and surprisingly a lot of ghost and psychic mons died to kecleon, just because they didnt know what do expect

[feral canopy]

tar is not taking anything in this economy

considering the ghost types got banned

now the best special attackers are fairy types

and the best physical attackers are fighting and water types

[feral canopy]

i mean no not really, you really cant improve at least half of these (scyther and kecleon) because they are really just that bad

maybe u can try something like swords dance dwb quick attack close combat with boots on scyther ???

its not doing anything 99% of the time but much better than the current set which wont do anything 100% of the time

idk what u can even do for kecleon

maybe like choice specs 4a on politoed??

if this was a rain team at least u can salvage him with that, but otherwise that is literally ur only option

no point wasting ur time with a defensive set

its not going to do anything except be a free punching bag and free turns for shit to set hazards on

u can make tar choice band

again still not that good but its the best option on this entire team if u cant mega it

knock off pursuit stone edge filler

eq or superpower or ice punch whatever

just go for choice band on sirfetched, cc fimp koff bbird

there is nothing better to improve this, and even with this version you will fall flat vs any good team at an ou level, most likely uu level too

but that is your best bet

[mellow zinc]

I had this version, but I tried to get a pivot to get rid of hazards. Is a pivot necessary?

[feral canopy]

u have boots

i would advise to not really worry about hazards and just try to hit shit hard and win first

[tired bear]

https://tenor.com/view/doctor-who-vincent-van-gogh-gif-10408019

[feral canopy]

u already have a team with bad mons

no point trying to actually have a long term strategy

[tired bear]

"nicest smogcord user"

[feral canopy]

i literally am the only one who gave advice

[tired bear]

word

u right

[mellow zinc]

Kecleon is the one that worked the best actually

And I am not saying that because its my ace mon

[feral canopy]

because your opponents suck

[mellow zinc]

Yeah maybe

[feral canopy]

i mean there are loads of other like

kecleon level mons

who i can understand can sometimes give the illusion

of working against standard teams

but kecleon really is just that bad

[marsh blaze]

https://pokepast.es/047e34c457a7cccd

[celest merlin]

New NatDex OU RMT @limber crypt, @pale spear, @cobalt skiff, @cobalt skiff. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

[marsh blaze]

[flint kelp]

https://pokepast.es/260fc1d648b3954f
is this good

[tranquil sedge]

https://pokepast.es/22ce1f03d7275184

[celest merlin]

New NatDex OU RMT @limber crypt, @pale spear, @cobalt skiff, @cobalt skiff. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

[tranquil sedge]

i did something

[dusky carbon]

random mmane in rain

[tranquil sedge]

not feeling like using pert

i mean i dont got lotta slots left

[feral canopy]

wow!

very innovative

u sure did something

thie is rain but u took out the best rain mon and replaced itnwith manec

[dusky carbon]

U can js go zap

If u want a elec

Altho I rhink u need a volt blocker esp on rain

[tranquil sedge]

also that

i specificaally gave bro lightning rod

[feral canopy]

thats the thing

the moment it megas it loses it

[dusky carbon]

^

[feral canopy]

so u either have a volt blocker

or u have a very mediocre mega

that doesnt really fit in rain

and is probably even more anti synergistic due to overheat damage cut

[tranquil sedge]

i mean overheat is a dead slot

might as well

the thing has jack shit in its movepool

also i dont wanna use zap because i like torn t

think its a good rain supp mon

[feral canopy]

yeah well it shouldnt be considering how annoying stuff like ferro is for you

[tranquil sedge]

also

[feral canopy]

and why manec at least somewhat functions outside of rain

[tranquil sedge]

nice surprise to alo ninetails

[feral canopy]

ok then use mega swampert

manectric is probably one of the worse electrics to use on rain

[dry rivet]

Ye why not Zappy

[feral canopy]

well there arent much options but zapdos is much more useful on both ends

koko while not as optimal is still much better offensively

[marsh blaze]

https://pokepast.es/ef7090c6520d264c

Anotha team

[vast tendon]

https://pokepast.es/73287d688197689d i wanna make this sun team work. please dont mind the atrocious tran set lol

[celest merlin]

New NatDex OU RMT @limber crypt, @pale spear, @cobalt skiff, @cobalt skiff. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

[cold fog]

i think weather ball on zard would be better

[vast tendon]

like with torkoal?

[marsh blaze]

https://pokepast.es/0dc86fe62edf50b1

[celest merlin]

New NatDex OU RMT @limber crypt, @pale spear, @cobalt skiff. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

[young kayak]

Can someone pass me a team for Aegislash ?

[void badge]

https://pokepast.es/1125dc05acbf7c0c araquanid ho that peaked 1750 on ladder

[celest merlin]

New NatDex OU RMT @limber crypt, @pale spear, @cobalt skiff, @cobalt skiff. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

[green notch]

Pls rate this, I just stole this team and won in a tour match lol

But tbh that really looks like my ursa BM BO. Maybe Zap < Torn idk

[marsh blaze]

I updated the paste to have val instead of lele

[marsh blaze]

@cobalt skiff prob shouldn't ping you but could you rate this since you're online

[young kayak]

I have tried the equipment and I liked it. Do you have another one with aegislash atk spa? @void badge

[neat tusk]

Against future sight looks dicey

Actually Mola can absorb fine somewhat ig

But if its urshifu futuresight it might be 🤷‍♂️

[vast tendon]

https://pokepast.es/e140baa0a531fd9f team loses to val need help

[celest merlin]

New NatDex OU RMT @limber crypt, @pale spear, @cobalt skiff, @cobalt skiff. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

[cold fog]

https://pokepast.es/171809183956c5b1

bo

[manic helm]

https://pokepast.es/28a66772ca653ea2 Need help with 6th slot of my team

[celest merlin]

New NatDex OU RMT @limber crypt, @pale spear, @cobalt skiff. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

[marsh blaze]

Rare me not sending a team here for a day moment

[limber crypt]

hi sorry we dont rate incomplete teams

[marsh blaze]

That ends now

https://pokepast.es/2254d3f35e49b7c8

[marsh blaze]

Sorry for the ping but could you rate this since you're here

Damn

[limber crypt]

i would just drop gtusk for another ground, ig lando works tho u could try smth funny like ursaluna

[marsh blaze]

Why lando/luna

Imma go lando cuz I'll still keep hazard control

https://pokepast.es/0ae5c2fdaeefc245

With lando

[limber crypt]

Im biased bc im not a huge tusk fan but i also just dont think it really fitshere outside of being a ground

[vast tendon]

https://pokepast.es/1346f6d1f0e1d7a3 i lose to val pls help

meant for rotom to be defensive

[marsh blaze]

Should i replace celes on this

Idk with who

[vast tendon]

@marsh blaze just an idea but maybe run reuniclus over celesteela? idk how well it would pair with lele but it synergizes well with ttar

[iron tangle]

Can I get a HO sample team to test out or do I have to make a test team first?

[celest merlin]

New NatDex OU RMT @limber crypt, @pale spear, @cobalt skiff. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

[celest merlin]

New NatDex OU RMT @limber crypt, @pale spear, @cobalt skiff. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

[lusty basalt]

https://pokepast.es/cfc1883a9bca41c4

[celest merlin]

New NatDex OU RMT @limber crypt, @pale spear, @cobalt skiff, @cobalt skiff. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

[lusty basalt]

anything I shld change?

took all the sets off smogon analysis so idk if up to date

unsure about garchomp too but I needed a ground and he seemed decent

[manic helm]

https://pokepast.es/0c9cba7ebab401c8

[celest merlin]

New NatDex OU RMT @limber crypt, @pale spear, @cobalt skiff. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

[feral canopy]

Looks fine i suppoise

can maybe run fs instead of aroma on lele to help break fatter structures better

Not a fan of that zap set But Oh Well

[pale spear]

no way bros claled the innovator 😭

[feral canopy]

Yes. Any issue with that @pale spear ?

It is simply my Calling.

[pale spear]

im a doubter

[feral canopy]

Of course you are.

They all Doubted Einstein.

They Doubted Leonardo Da Vinci.

They Doubted Nikola Tesla.

What is another Doubter really, when all those Great Minds have Flourished?

[pale spear]

bro u rly think ur me huh

[feral canopy]

There are Doubters, and there are Doers.

So close together, yet so Far Apart.

You and I... We are on Opposite ends of the same Spectrum.

[pale spear]

and then theres u

[feral canopy]

Two Sides of the same Coin, if I may.

[pale spear]

:yaya:

[pale spear]

im the goat

i just discovered smth fascinating

[marsh blaze]

https://pokepast.es/767510ed7ee57add

[feral canopy]

What.

[neat hazel]

http://pokepast.es/767e12dd04e3797f

[marsh blaze]

Why screens grimmsnarl

[feral canopy]

Hello Mega Sceptile to OU

[neat hazel]

I don’t know anything of proper team building

I figured it’d help me switch into mawile

[marsh blaze]

Build with 1 playstyle in mind

[feral canopy]

https://pokepast.es/4340f6a43989ed45

[celest merlin]

New NatDex OU RMT @limber crypt, @pale spear, @cobalt skiff. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

[feral canopy]

@neat hazel

@cobalt skiff does this lose to anythinh

oh my god stupid bot

[neat hazel]

oh thanks

by the way

I don’t use legends

Any replacements

For that dog

[feral canopy]

wh

why

zama as a legend sucks

Wawa.

gking make tera dragon

or grass

gliscor walls that shit

to jannah and back

it does

i tried

proof

i used it

i clicked shadow ball

it did 40

gliscor outsped next turn

click eq and ohko

i cryi

modest

outsped by Heatran.

….

[lusty basalt]

was the one recommended on smogon

are there any better defensive ones?

[feral canopy]

volt defog is so dire

idk

defog zap in this economy

ur wall3 by pex then

Dire

idet u break alo

lose to Rillaboom.

Choice Band Tera Grass Wood Hammer.

?

Noob

Running speed on Zapdos.

[lusty basalt]

I think w volt u want no speed right?

[gritty dove]

how's this?
https://pokepast.es/6de8421e3302605b

[celest merlin]

New NatDex OU RMT @limber crypt, @pale spear, @cobalt skiff, @cobalt skiff. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

[gritty dove]

and no I'm not giving triple Axel or u turn to my Lopunny, I prefer the older set more

[feral canopy]

give uturn to mega lopuny

[gritty dove]

I mean anything else can be changed

just not lopunny

[willow topaz]

https://pokepast.es/e5dcbb3bec836ea4

[gritty dove]

why do you have two megas

[willow topaz]

its the secret tech

(i forgot)

[tepid fern]

https://pokepast.es/c25fe4e4dc33ffcf

am officially retiring from HO, so making a balance team to help climb. Just threw together some mons i thought could work together good. Know I def want a scarf fu and sneasler core here, but what can i do to improve or change this team

looking back on it i could prob have a better terrain setter for seed

[feral canopy]

why is theee a clodsire

[dusky carbon]

Do you swear to not use ho again?

[slender niche]

for natdex doubles OU should I be here or in in natdex non-ou?

[plain epoch]

non i think

[tepid fern]

I promise

[marsh blaze]

https://pokepast.es/8a0f0e2bcaaed159

[celest merlin]

New NatDex OU RMT @limber crypt, @pale spear, @cobalt skiff. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

[cobalt skiff]

hey i need some help improving a team https://pokepast.es/9bd99f94a98406a2

[willow topaz]

https://pokepast.es/e5dcbb3bec836ea4

[cobalt skiff]

https://pokepast.es/6fe01e9035d39259

[celest merlin]

New NatDex OU RMT @limber crypt, @pale spear, @cobalt skiff, @cobalt skiff. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

[marsh blaze]

https://pokepast.es/846f20e530c8c244

[celest merlin]

New NatDex OU RMT @limber crypt, @pale spear, @cobalt skiff. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

[obtuse chasm]

https://pokepast.es/084e81c0802f5be6

for the suspect test

[marsh blaze]

Gunk shot over dire claw to ohko stuff like zap, molt imo

Also why 2 leads?

[obtuse chasm]

1 is dual screens support, 1 is a sticky web lead

[obtuse chasm]

oh

i dont like missing tbf

[marsh blaze]

It's fine i just prefer gunk to prevent the mons i mentioned from stopping my sweep

[marsh blaze]

Yeah but the team doesn't even need webs

[obtuse chasm]

anyways ima post my observation of sneazler so far

[obtuse chasm]

what can I put then

a physical wallbreaker?

[marsh blaze]

You're running screens so just use another set up sweeper

[obtuse chasm]

too many sweepers is no good

imo

[marsh blaze]

You're literally running screens

[obtuse chasm]

whats one more sweeper i can add?

[marsh blaze]

Valiant

Activates quark with koko

[obtuse chasm]

Booster energy?

[marsh blaze]

Calm mind val

[obtuse chasm]

it feels so bad thou

[marsh blaze]

With booster

Why

[obtuse chasm]

i alr have lele and sneaz

[marsh blaze]

So?

[obtuse chasm]

i dont like having multiple same types

Means I get more pain from having psychics

[marsh blaze]

Just tera then

The goal of HO with screens is to sweep with one mon and if that doesn't work you probably dealt heavy damage to the enemy team for your other sweepers to win

[obtuse chasm]

ah

im more of a balance player

Or bulky offence

so im running 4 sweepers, 1 wallbreaker in lele

[spring imp]

is this an ok eterrain team?
https://pokepast.es/242f8725ae7cd017

[celest merlin]

New NatDex OU RMT @limber crypt, @pale spear, @cobalt skiff, @cobalt skiff. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

[limber crypt]

defensive lando > tusk, iron moth > gren and elec z cm ival should work for this

[spring imp]

what does elec z cm ival mean?

[limber crypt]

electrium z calm mind

so calm mind moonblast focus blast thunderbolt

[spring imp]

sweet

thanks

[little haven]

https://pokepast.es/dbdf3eedd5bdad3d do i need some improvements?

[hollow basalt]

https://pokepast.es/6d00b189c4897767
psychic terrain offense team I put together, might need some tweaking if sneasler gets banned though

[feral canopy]

remove ting lu

[feral canopy]

drop glisc for tusk and change mie for volc

make teapot tera fighting tera blast -> giga

and make it timid

make hatt physdef eject button and give it hwish over psychic terrain

and prob psychic/gleam over eforce but if eforce works then bleh

make lele tera fairy too

run gunk shot -> dire claw on sneasler and make it jolly

@hollow basalt

[marsh blaze]

https://pokepast.es/533155cc8812ac6c

[feral canopy]

fastest mon tapu koko

[marsh blaze]

[marsh blaze]

Static and TWave

[little haven]

5 mons? doesnt look good on paper but why not

[marsh blaze]

I can change it to scarf Shifu if needed

[little haven]

can you?

but scarf

isnt way band better?

[marsh blaze]

Or jet on Shifu over tpunch

Idk why I'm not running jet when i have 2 electric types and FSight support for pex for shifu

[cobalt skiff]

Should we ban tera?

cause i feel like we should

[hollow basalt]

in natdex? no

the overall power level in natdex is much, much higher

And once sneasler gets banned the meta should be pretty good

[feral canopy]

most definitely, but this is the rate my team channel not the discussion channel

you would get a better response in comp gen 1 or 2

[cobalt skiff]

https://pokepast.es/b12742379749ed41
How do i improve this

[celest merlin]

New NatDex OU RMT @limber crypt, @pale spear, @cobalt skiff, @cobalt skiff. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

[feral canopy]

change ur name

and delete everything except for grimmsnarl and kommo o

[cobalt skiff]

ok

[feral canopy]

or everything except glisc and alo, and maybe garg

[cobalt skiff]

I deleted every thing expect grim and kommo o

and now what

[feral canopy]

now u add a volcarona and a iron valiant and a sneasler and a rillboom

[cobalt skiff]

sneasler might be banned soon

[feral canopy]

or u remove ur grimm and add a koko instead, and change rillaboom for something like a hisamu or dnite

[cobalt skiff]

Iron Valiant @ Booster Energy
Ability: Quark Drive
Tera Type: Fairy
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 SpA / 252 Spe
Naive Nature

• Moonblast
• Close Combat
• Psychic
• Knock Off

Is this set good

[hollow basalt]

https://pokepast.es/808666858ce10c59
this one is a bit weirder, had the idea that since baxcalibur was just banned, and sneasler being soon to be banned, people aren't building to prepare for bax anymore and one of the major threats to a team like this is about to go

[marsh blaze]

https://pokepast.es/6b4ecd65af2c30dd
Changed Mamo to Luna

[celest merlin]

New NatDex OU RMT @limber crypt, @pale spear, @cobalt skiff. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

[manic helm]

https://pokepast.es/5d5998be5dfd7d3a

[cloud cipher]

Is this team pretty good? Or is there anything to change, any moves, item, or maybe replace Pokemon with someone else (not counting Latias beacuse she is my most favorite pokemon and i want her in the team no matter what)
https://pokepast.es/f267f29643d0367f

[celest merlin]

New NatDex OU RMT @limber crypt, @pale spear, @cobalt skiff, @cobalt skiff. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

[marsh blaze]

https://pokepast.es/fca985b3d69eec66

[celest merlin]

New NatDex OU RMT @limber crypt, @pale spear, @cobalt skiff, @cobalt skiff. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

[marsh blaze]

ANOTHA
https://pokepast.es/06c19cbab0e69679

[celest merlin]

New NatDex OU RMT @limber crypt, @pale spear, @cobalt skiff. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

[marsh blaze]

[marsh blaze]

It'll be oger when i run into ogerspring

So need suggestions to help with that

[pale spear]

you have no wincon? like the only way u can actually make progress is either hoping the opponent is hopelessly weak to mlop + fs or spikes, i wld go max physdef on slowking for sneas aid, sd glisc over lando and maybe even npsplit rotom to mess w fat stuff

[marsh blaze]

What's the np rotom set?

[pale spear]

np discharge hydro painsplit

[marsh blaze]

252hp 252 SpA+?

And lefties

[pale spear]

keep lefties

but keep it w a bunch of pdef investment

and tera steel

[marsh blaze]

So HP def

[pale spear]

yeah

can add like a bit of speed asw if u want

[marsh blaze]

Ight

[marsh blaze]

https://pokepast.es/4be1a7aad6a2a65a
Is this fine

[pale spear]

assuming ur rotom covers a speed tier that makes sense then yea

[marsh blaze]

Smth like mtar runs 212 speed in the sample set

By 212 i don't mean the evs

[pale spear]

alr

[marsh blaze]

Should i invest enough speed to pass the 222 speed tier? And go 223

Or nah

[pale spear]

personally i would

but u shld check the speed tiers thread and see what makes u comfortable

i.e. maybe u wanna go past most forms of gliscor

[marsh blaze]

What about this
EVs: 252 HP / 104 Def / 92 Spe
Bold Nature
Outspeeds 12/16 Spe gliscor

Forgot to put the rest of the def evs