NatDex OU Rates

[gray meteor]

but toxic is an issue

[feral canopy]

i would just run some kind of balance with a good rocker then

mew is not tanking

[gray meteor]

should I just celeestella

[feral canopy]

and is completely losing vs trick room

[gray meteor]

what are answer

I know you can tank and stall it out

but

[feral canopy]

well ur best go is some balance/bo

to do that ya

stall it out and deny free turns

as much as possible

[gray meteor]

bo?

[feral canopy]

bulky offense

[gray meteor]

do you have a sample team for OU

[feral canopy]

um give me a minute

ill find

[gray meteor]

@ me when you find

[tender flare]

https://pokepast.es/1a9dc6d5e4e82f2c

[celest merlin]

New NatDex OU RMT @limber crypt, @ember hollow, @pale spear, @cobalt skiff. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

[jovial shoal]

https://pokepast.es/a883953df7053bcf

[shadow oasis]

Give diancie earth power > stealth rock

cuz u already have glimm as a stealth rocker

[crude crypt]

https://pokepast.es/18a060b559f45018
hazard stack hex offense, how is it?

[celest merlin]

New NatDex OU RMT @limber crypt, @ember hollow, @pale spear. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

[cold fog]

https://pokepast.es/775c795beaeafe0e its for gen 9 ou but i still wanna know if this would work well

[manic wing]

https://pokepast.es/60508f04754db753 Still looking for a replacement for ursaluna mabye can get some help here

[celest merlin]

New NatDex OU RMT @limber crypt, @ember hollow, @pale spear. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

[limber crypt]

washtom > greninja, heatran > ursa, make lando defensive

[manic wing]

https://pokepast.es/80be0392c1a8bb8a is this ok now?

[limber crypt]

kart and pult had fine sets u didnt need to change em

idk if harcanine is all that viable but i also think band might be alot better here

[trim glen]

I’m making a ghost type team https://pokepast.es/3c12f89ba46e4125 any suggestions to make it better?

[trim glen]

*Ghost Gym Leader team

[tender flare]

sorry we don't rate teams with arbitrary restrictions here

if you want to get this rated put it in monotype

[trim glen]

Okay

[trim glen]

https://pokepast.es/5ba43a8fd75bb3f7

[celest merlin]

New NatDex OU RMT @limber crypt, @ember hollow, @pale spear, @cobalt skiff. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

[trim glen]

How does that look?

[trim glen]

It’s not the ghost only team I had before

[shadow oasis]

Teams nice but i think the ghold set can be bulky nasty plot instead (basically switching the item to heavy duty boots)

and mchomp should be switched out for a better mega like mega lopunny

Rotom Wash should be wilo wisp instead of thunder wave and pain split over protect because protect feels like a waste of a moveslot and make it physically defensive instead of specially defensive

it should also be tera ghost to wall tusk

And finally you should swap gliscor for a better ground with stealth rocks

[raven granite]

🤭

[shadow oasis]

WHAT

[cobalt skiff]

speed control???

[swift pebble]

https://pokepast.es/2146e71dddc5077c

[celest merlin]

New NatDex OU RMT @limber crypt, @ember hollow, @pale spear. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

[limber crypt]

valiant > enamorus

thats literally it

cm stabs tbolt @ booster

[green notch]

ya for zama.

[feral canopy]

koko shld also probs be screens

dont see why it isnt

and ya volc prob over mr zama

[zealous epoch]

what can i add to my team?

looking for mono dragon in nat dex

[raven granite]

Go to the natdex non ou page

[celest merlin]

New NatDex OU RMT @limber crypt, @ember hollow, @pale spear. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

[feral canopy]

this is natdex ou rmt channel

not gen9 ou

[gray hearth]

oh frick lmao

mbmb

deleting

[tranquil sedge]

https://pokepast.es/7bae98c438a8dc22

im cooking with this team nocap

[subtle lance]

Lopunny gets combat

But the team seems very cooked

[shadow oasis]

u definitely want normal stab over taxel on lop here

[soft orchid]

No switch in against Shifu

It wrecks the entire team.

Close Combat kills Samurot, Lopunny, and ferro

Surging strikes kills the rest

And that's assuming it's scarf or trailblaze.

[tranquil sedge]

what to slot in then

i need hazard control and the stuff we have here is awful aside from tusk

[shadow oasis]

pex > samurott torn t > tusk

[latent solar]

Samurott-Hisui @ Assault Vest
Ability: Sharpness
Tera Type: Water
EVs: 128 HP / 252 Atk / 128 Def
Adamant Nature

• Ceaseless Edge
• Aqua Cutter
• Air Slash
• Night Slash

Goodra-Hisui @ Assault Vest
Ability: Sap Sipper
Shiny: Yes
Tera Type: Steel
EVs: 58 HP / 140 Atk / 252 Def / 58 SpD
Adamant Nature

• Dragon Tail
• Body Press
• Heavy Slam
• Ice Spinner

Charizard-Mega-Y @ Charizardite Y
Ability: Drought
Tera Type: Fire
EVs: 128 HP / 86 Def / 252 SpA / 42 SpD
Modest Nature
IVs: 0 Atk

• Solar Beam
• Focus Blast
• Fire Blast
• Roost

Great Tusk @ Rocky Helmet
Ability: Protosynthesis
Tera Type: Fighting
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Def / 4 SpD
Impish Nature

• Earthquake
• Stealth Rock
• Knock Off
• Play Rough

Pyukumuku @ Leftovers
Ability: Unaware
Tera Type: Water
EVs: 108 HP / 200 Def / 200 SpD
Careful Nature
IVs: 0 Atk

• Soak
• Toxic
• Recover
• Reflect

Slither Wing @ Life Orb
Ability: Protosynthesis
Tera Type: Bug
EVs: 252 Atk / 252 Spe
Jolly Nature

• Dual Wingbeat
• Morning Sun
• Whirlwind
• Zen Headbutt

how can i improve my team ?
this is for hazards and protosynthesis

[cobalt skiff]

Better to send that in a pokepaste

[latent solar]

idk what pokepaste is but ill check

[dry rivet]

Go to the bottom of ur team and click "upload to pokepaste" and then send the URL

[latent solar]

https://pokepast.es/97371cd969d1c21a

[celest merlin]

New NatDex OU RMT @limber crypt, @ember hollow, @pale spear. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

[cobalt skiff]

And while i can't help build the team as a whole, I can tell you that air slash is an awful choice for hamu and he also doesn't need ceaseless and night slash

[latent solar]

ceaseless is for setting up spikes

i dont know what to use for other moves

[cobalt skiff]

Yeah ik, ditch night slash

And this is my personal preference bring razor shell>aqua cutter

What hamu actually runs in natdex I'm not sure, I just know he doesn't run night slash or air slasy

[latent solar]

what to use instead of night slash ?

[cobalt skiff]

*slash

[latent solar]

sacred sword ?

[cobalt skiff]

Ofc

[latent solar]

aight

sucker punch over air slash ?

[sacred ember]

@limber crypt https://pokepast.es/994e7412c47c90a4

gen 9 ND

Inspired off of another team

it was hazard stack

With the idea stalling defog

and have hazards on most of your Pokémon’s

I’m not doing too bad with it rn tho HP fire Lele is annoying

Thunderbolt dengo is for Tera water clefable

the Clodsire spread is to wall SD iron Val

(With Tera)

I chose Garg as my last Pokémon because it does make a nice core

With pex and dengo

I’m not too experienced with this gen yet so any tips would help

[shadow oasis]

Go hippo > clod overall better rocker and better into zard Y MU

skarm should have helmet to punish phys attackers

with tera dragon to cover more weaknesses than tera water

Blissey generally isnt good so i would swap it for mega lop to have a better matchup against offense

pex should have scald because we have that in national dex

garg should probably be idef bpress salt cure recover with leftovers

Pex should also have tera dragon

u should probably have make it rain instead of thunderbolt because clefable isnt too popular at the moment

[limber crypt]

the end result of the changes above is pretty similar to thugnar (very good fat team) but it works nonetheless

[idle knoll]

https://pokepast.es/841e0c2993cd15fa

[celest merlin]

New NatDex OU RMT @limber crypt, @ember hollow, @pale spear, @cobalt skiff. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

[idle knoll]

Idk what shud I make spdef

[shadow oasis]

Make lando physdef

[idle knoll]

And ferro spdef?

[shadow oasis]

yeah if u want

also go knock > beat up on weavile

beat up generally doesnt do any major damage can knocking off items can be important

[idle knoll]

K

[idle knoll]

I was thinking replacing ferro with spdef toxa shud i?

[shadow oasis]

I think heatran would look nice here

because then u dont have to swap something else for a rocker

[idle knoll]

Hm I see

K

[shadow oasis]

and then swap like ival for a water

[idle knoll]

Valiant?

[shadow oasis]

yea

[idle knoll]

Like which Water type?

[shadow oasis]

id say pex probably

[idle knoll]

K

[shadow oasis]

washtom could work too i suppose but its up to u

[idle knoll]

Ok

[dusky carbon]

looks cool

[iron summit]

https://pokepast.es/0c07287df04da8f6

[celest merlin]

New NatDex OU RMT @limber crypt, @ember hollow, @pale spear. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

[iron summit]

Snow team

Any feedback?

[cobalt skiff]

AGONY
https://pokepast.es/55862c6c3b4237ce

[feral canopy]

what does gking do here

specifically physdef reception

zolt is also really shit without a proper setter

and u really need to lean hard into zolt if u want to use it

in its current state this looks 6-0ed by lop

[feral canopy]

this is not good

corv is not a real mon in the tier, ur 6-0ed by dragapult used shadow ball, why is slowking reception, why is there a basc and why is it z tfang and not just eq or whatever

[iron summit]

Chilly

[feral canopy]

yes i know

but why not atales

aka a proper setter

3 turn hail is not enough for zolt to do anything

especially in pursuit gambit metagame lol

snow sucks but if u really want to use it

rebuild with atales

look at gen 8 examples

in its current state this is not good

[iron summit]

Ic

Thanks for the feedback

[feral canopy]

👍

[cursive cosmos]

Team I made pre-home, what kind of adjustments should I make
https://pokepast.es/c96d846e691baa0a

[celest merlin]

New NatDex OU RMT @limber crypt, @ember hollow, @pale spear, @cobalt skiff. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

[feral canopy]

well u r 6-0ed by pult

even prehome this dont look good

no real water resist either, cleared by raino

[slow drum]

is this good?

https://pokepast.es/1a2c216db016cb48

(@ me please)

[feral canopy]

it is not

@slow drum

[slow drum]

ok

what bad?

@feral canopy

I changed gliscor's tera

https://pokepast.es/6b0192c128582212

never mind I changed a mon

[iron summit]

What’s going on with ur ev spread

My brain hurts looking at ur chomp

At ur everything

[slow drum]

I want decent bulk on every mon

[iron summit]

Yah but did you just throw random numbers

[slow drum]

maybe...

[feral canopy]

always go max max with ur mons unless u have a specific reason

throwing random evs on is always useless and wont affect ur mon in the slightest since the bulk change is so little

anyways even outside the evs the sets are awful, theres a lack of synergy with all of them as well

[shadow oasis]

I recommend looking at samples and looking at the smogon sets to understand what evs certain pokemon use

[celest merlin]

New NatDex OU RMT @limber crypt, @ember hollow, @pale spear, @cobalt skiff. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

[idle knoll]

Only 3 mon?

Make wash spdef and add Def Ferrothorn

[tranquil glacier]

Friend of mine wants to know if this team is good or not, and what improvements it could use.

[raven granite]

This seems like a bunch of random pokes thrown together

I would use a sample team if i were your friend

[iron summit]

Thst drapeon set is wack

Stick to two or three evs

Leech seed

Id suggest add another special mon like tapu koko or valient or both

And meow is kinda meh in dex but you can use him

[tranquil glacier]

Thoughts?

[shadow oasis]

some of these mons arent really any good in NDOU apart from zard Y and pex which sets are pretty strange

i recommend looking at the sample teams to understand and what to expect from this tier

[tranquil glacier]

Whats wrong with Y and Pex’s sets?

[shadow oasis]

zard y doesnt use air slash, it has roost for recovery

and pex runs haze and toxic over toxic spikes and sludge bomb

[tranquil glacier]

What would be good replacements for the other 4?

@shadow oasis

[shadow oasis]

well what r u trying to build here

[tranquil glacier]

Balanced Team

[shadow oasis]

i wouldnt recommend zard y for balance

maybe use mega loppuny or mega medicham instead

[tranquil glacier]

What would type of team would Y be best used for?

[shadow oasis]

zard y usually goes on offense

zard y offense pretty good rn

[sacred ember]

https://pokepast.es/a0cc1b166d10c322 made this buzzwole team

[celest merlin]

New NatDex OU RMT @limber crypt, @ember hollow, @pale spear, @cobalt skiff. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

[sacred ember]

I’m hard stuck 1700’s rn

[short agate]

funny seeing you here

[cobalt skiff]

https://pokepast.es/7ee5be9ef1da9b81
is there anything I can change to make it better

[agile glade]

https://pokepast.es/1677dcad8c536e36

random team, mono-lose to mscizor

[dusky carbon]

blace jus ass

[shadow oasis]

Go tera steel over grass on hippo

Pexs tera should be dragon

torn should have a little more physdef evs

Make gholds tera ghost

[cobalt skiff]

https://pokepast.es/3457f57123a69a46 rock paper scissors theme team, how is it?

[celest merlin]

New NatDex OU RMT @limber crypt, @ember hollow, @pale spear. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

[pale spear]

we dont rate theme teams here sry

[cobalt skiff]

O alright

Where can I ask for theme teams?

I’ll go check

[feral canopy]

u dont

or well

anywhere but here lol

[cobalt skiff]

Ah okay lmao

https://pokepast.es/78182093f9b29d0c this is my best Natdex ou team, well the best team I have from experience, the one that has won me the most games at least

Any way I can improve it?

[latent solar]

Pls rate. Open to criticism ty
https://pokepast.es/1866e7f720288e7f

[dry vector]

https://pokepast.es/85e74d1837869deb

someone pls rate

[dry vector]

its okay but is very vulnerable to earh type and fire type so make some changes or era types

tera

[latent solar]

im not sure tbh...i kill fire types using power gem from heatran or hidden power rock from sceptile

ground types...i use air balloon but even then im not sure if my whimsicott tanks ground well enough

[zenith jolt]

https://pokepast.es/ee6db91dc459268d can someone please rate my team?

[dry vector]

i would change the thundurus and the medicham

text me on dm and i recomend you some pokemons

[dry vector]

i am rating teams tell me if someone needs a rate

[feral canopy]

thats a tornadus

and why

the team is just too slow

well

sort of too slow

u can make up q dual prio medi and sucker gambit ofc

otherwise defensibely it looks sound

[zenith jolt]

so wait what do i change in the team?

[feral canopy]

is there anything u struggle w specifically

[zenith jolt]

idrk ive only played a couple of matches with it

[feral canopy]

can try like payapa pex to help in the lele and medi mu

otherwise it looks fine

[zenith jolt]

ok ty

[feral canopy]

👍

eject pex is also an option

to bring in medi and gambit

but ye

fine otherwise

[zenith jolt]

i have a quick question. i just started ndou and ive noticed last respects is unbanned. why is that the case?

[feral canopy]

its banned

[zenith jolt]

it is? oh mb

i forgot to validate the move, i just didnt see it as banned under the menu

also what do i do against great tusk, i try to go into torn but then ice spinner does over 60%

[cobalt skiff]

zapdos hurricane

[zenith jolt]

played a bit with the team and got to around 1400 and then i ran into some nidoking teams which became quite problematic bcs of the lack of switchins i have. any ideas? i had trouble with specifically a substitute set

[shadow oasis]

dont worry about that too much nidoking isnt good at all in this tier and that was just the type of teams u would expect at 1400 on the ladder

once u get higher up you will find better teams

[zenith jolt]

ok tysm

[shadow oasis]

np

[noble warren]

rate my stall team

https://pokepast.es/90a6a81cdbc00d79

[celest merlin]

New NatDex OU RMT @limber crypt, @ember hollow, @pale spear. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

[feral canopy]

hard stall is not good in the tier, far too fishy and you will get overrun by threats

that eiscue set is not good and only catches new people who dont know what it does off guard once

this build is 6-0ed by ghold, for one

[noble warren]

really? ive dealt with gholdengo just fine

im fine at 1300 rn

fair

made the team a will ago

[feral canopy]

idk how u deal with ghold at all

it clicks nasty plot and ur team loses

hstack stuff also tear this team a new one

since u have no hazard control of ur own and no stack of ur own

[sacred ember]

What does dirge wall

[noble warren]

idk i just chose it for unaware

[noble warren]

prob just pure luck on my part

[sacred ember]

if you make stall every Pokémon gotta have a purpose

[noble warren]

unaware

thats legit te only reasons

[latent solar]

does mold breaker help setup sweeper against unaware mon ?

[shadow oasis]

yes

[warm cape]

shut up blopus

😄

[latent solar]

looking for physical setup sweeper that can tank fire type moves and eat ground type attacks

[dusky carbon]

Sd chomp

or sd Glis

[latent solar]

what is sd

oh

swords dance

[sacred ember]

Blud is stalking this channel

[warm cape]

not stalking just lurking

[latent solar]

https://pokepast.es/21b67735a4340c5f
please rate my team.

[celest merlin]

New NatDex OU RMT @limber crypt, @ember hollow, @pale spear, @cobalt skiff. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

[cobalt skiff]

stalking

[warm cape]

ive been in this server for time

lol

[cobalt skiff]

Uhhh nuh uh

[warm cape]

https://tenor.com/view/tyst-theo-shhh-theo-gif-25779834

[sacred ember]

https://pokepast.es/f8662d47a328221b sun team

[celest merlin]

New NatDex OU RMT @limber crypt, @ember hollow, @pale spear. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

[sacred ember]

Just realized

I have no hazard removal

Wait I do lol

[shadow oasis]

Ice spinner over knock on tusk

so u can hit zap and torn

and any other flying

Washtom might be better over slowking so u can slow vswitch into tusk, yard etc

[rotund delta]

https://pokepast.es/70d0fd0ba15d460a

[celest merlin]

New NatDex OU RMT @limber crypt, @ember hollow, @pale spear. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

[shadow oasis]

Personally i would do flamethrower but weather ball is fine

this team is good actually

[rotund delta]

ty :)

[limber crypt]

i think u can go mlop > zardy and specs/spoon lele here; zardy tends to fit on very specific structures and is cery out of place

also consider 4a gambit over sd

[rotund delta]

i’ll make a copy and test mlop, don’t rlly wanna go 4a gambit since sd has saved my ass a lot

is spoon lele real?

i’ve never heard of that

[shadow oasis]

ye its real

[rotund delta]

neat, i’m assuming it’s just for boosted fsights right?

[stoic anchor]

Is exca gud on natdex or nah

I was thinkin on trying to build a team within it

[rotund delta]

imo it’s like

pretty meh but usable

i used it on hipposkarm and it did p well

[feral canopy]

its for specs boost without the specs

u wld not run fs

[rotund delta]

no fsight?

seems weird but if the set works the set works

[feral canopy]

wdym

its just a boosting item

[rotund delta]

yea ik but i feel like you’d wanna run fsight on that

[feral canopy]

why

its a breaker

[rotund delta]

that’s fair act

[hardy gust]

https://pokepast.es/f8e2954740f3d47e

[celest merlin]

New NatDex OU RMT @limber crypt, @ember hollow, @pale spear. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

[hardy gust]

i just threw it together how does it smell

[latent solar]

https://pokepast.es/c0787e551b69741b
im having trouble against kingambit....any idea how i can improve

[hardy gust]

maybe a new mega and not togekiss

(i am not a rater so i am not sure)

[limber crypt]

no, spoon bluffs specs and has the merit of running taunt whjch shuts down alot of short term answers (corvs the big one) set is stabs fblast taunt

[rotund delta]

ah i see

[limber crypt]

make ghold bulky np and ig pex > hatt

[limber crypt]

this is a really strange team but id recommend looking in the bazaar if u want grimmsnarl ho, most of those teams should work

[latent solar]

whats bazaar ?

[limber crypt]

https://www.smogon.com/forums/threads/national-dex-bazaar.3710928/post-9400672

[winter hawk]

obviously a late reply but cant u do this in normal OU

[raven granite]

it is called a different meta not necessarily needing the things not involved in another meta

[rotund delta]

bruh that was before home even came out lmao

[raven granite]

and like if you look at this from beyond simply mon choice

there are many non ou things here

[rotund delta]

i haven’t looked at the team but im assuming it had knock suit gambit

cuz i know how i build LMAO

[oblique bison]

https://pokepast.es/1ac3873a5c79ad65

[celest merlin]

New NatDex OU RMT @limber crypt, @ember hollow, @pale spear. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

[oblique bison]

how I this I would think it is better then my first team

[stable blade]

Hey, I'm kind of new to this, anyone care to help me with this sand team I've been trying to figure out?

https://pokepast.es/671d7950e83d4d3e

Featuring

• toxic/dig/protect gliscor,
• spikes skarmory,
• AV ttar,
• fire blast mega garchomp,
• wish clefable,
• nasty plot/recover gholdengo

Currently floating around 1400s with it, I'm sure it can be improved to go higher

[feral canopy]

um

to put it bluntly

this is awful

[stable blade]

I did expect that

[feral canopy]

every single set here is horrible barring the ghold set

[stable blade]

how come?

[feral canopy]

which is just a worse version of the normal bulky evs

Gliscor @ Toxic Orb
Ability: Poison Heal
Tera Type: Water
EVs: 252 HP / 4 Def / 252 Spe
Jolly Nature

• Protect
• Knock Off
• Dig
• Toxic

this is the first gliscor to not be good

idk why u would evrr

use dig

like ever

[stable blade]

for an extra turn of toxic and poison heal

[feral canopy]

ok but have u faced the fact that u cant toxic anything

and that

u cant dig stuff if ur dead

and that

it also means the one mon

ur meant to almost always beat

(heatran)

now hard walls u completely

also

glsicor gets roost, i "get" how u ended up on tect but roost is miles better

and so is a normal eq based set, either sd or facade

skarm also gets roost i do not know again why this is tect

u shld only be using tect if ur mon literally does not have self recovery at all

(in singles)

there is 0 other case where u would ever use that move

ok maybe not 0, but very close to 0

skarm also needs idbp to function if not it gets cleared by everything it wants to check

lets see

Tyranitar @ Assault Vest
Ability: Sand Stream
Tera Type: Grass
EVs: 52 HP / 252 Atk / 204 SpD
Brave Nature
IVs: 0 Spe

• Tera Blast
• Avalanche
• Stone Edge
• Pursuit

[stable blade]

I prefer protect mainly for scouting, e.g. figuring out if they have a fire/ice move for skarm/gliscor

what's idbp?

[feral canopy]

iron defense body prsss

[feral canopy]

no point scoting if ur mon is never going to heal

run a healing move

if u think they are going to click an ice move go to the mon u want to deal with that

if u could have 20 moveslots i would put protect on both of those mons

unfortunately u only have 4 and u need all of them

and one of them is roost

[feral canopy]

re: this

av tar does 0 damage

it is not checking anything

or pursuiting anything

[stable blade]

that's really not the case ime

[feral canopy]

u also get fucked over by everything u want to pursuit

and u have no utility at the same time

lose lose scenario

[feral canopy]

which part

[stable blade]

it has been getting ohkos with pursuit against pult, tapu lele, any psychic/ghost mon really

the 0 damage

[feral canopy]

lele barely takes 70 from pursuit

in no universe is it getting ohkoed

also i just realised this is

offensive av

why is this not just mega

its av but better

252+ Atk Tyranitar switching boosted Pursuit (80 BP) vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Tapu Lele: 186-220 (66.1 - 78.2%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after sandstorm damage

pult is the only thing ur ohkoing with pursuit

[stable blade]

in the spikes/stealth rock universe it is lol

[feral canopy]

gholdengo happily stays in and clicks nasty plot again

and uses u as setup fodder

[feral canopy]

spikes and rocks arent bringing down to 30%

[stable blade]

I mean, it's not left with enough to switch back in again lol

[feral canopy]

it definitely can if it has pivots to bring it in safely

hint: it always will

regardless the point is not relevant

the only thing a set like this would help with is nothing over mtar

since ur not even like, max spd invest or whatever

[feral canopy]

in the spikes and stealth rocks universe

ur tyranitar is also taking 50% every time it comes in

point goes both ways bucko

[stable blade]

mtar can't remotely tank the special hits I need it to as well as AV ttar though, and that's its sole purpose in this team

[feral canopy]

like what

mega tar also checks ghold btw

[stable blade]

any fire move I need to protect skarmory from, or literally any powerful special move rather

[feral canopy]

this tar is setup fodder

and it can set rocks

[feral canopy]

let me introduce u to the damage calc

u cant just say random things and hope it sticks

name them

or give the calcs if your not sure on specifics

actually i can help you

i dont recommend using a set so bulk oriented like this

but this is just for example to prove a point

u would generally want to use a more optimised spread

252 SpA Choice Specs Dragapult Shadow Ball vs. 244 HP / 252 SpD Tyranitar-Mega in Sand: 38-45 (9.4 - 11.1%) -- possible 9HKO

252 SpA Choice Specs Dragapult Shadow Ball vs. 52 HP / 204 SpD Assault Vest Tyranitar in Sand: 30-36 (8.4 - 10.1%) -- possibly the worst move ever

this is assuming u hit the same attack benchmark

just for comparisons sake

mtar can set rocks alongside this, is much faster (hits a lot of important speed tiers)

and has much better physical bulk (u dont die to dd pult!)

i cannot think of a possible instance where the 1% extra special bulk would matter

or really the increased special bulk in general

[stable blade]

but that's like the biggest hole in the team

[feral canopy]

since tar shouldnt be ur dedicated pivot

[stable blade]

special bulk

[feral canopy]

u should have something like a pex

or a av torn

because the funny thing about special attackers in the tier

is that they generally have ways around one mon

pult is clicking uturn

lele is teraing fairy and moonblasting u

ghold is clicking the funny red type changing button

torn is clicking uturn

and i can go on and on on why tar shouldnt be ur sole special check

regardless of ur set

[feral canopy]

u cannot build teams like this

it is impossible

mons check specific things

they dont check the entire offensive spectrum

skarm does good against more physical threats than most mons since it has obscene physical bulk, but it also doesnt deal with a lot

same goes for tar

anyways, moving onp

Garchomp @ Garchompite
Ability: Rough Skin
Tera Type: Steel
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Atk / 4 SpA
Naughty Nature

• Stealth Rock
• Fire Blast
• Outrage
• Earthquake

this chomp set is lile a worse version of what normal mixchomp would be

which would be draco over outrage since outrage is horrible, especially in this economy

[rotund delta]

chlorophyll lilligant with no sun setter seems weird

[feral canopy]

max speed max spat with naive or timid or hasty

regardless the only mchomp set u would want on a "sand"

is sd

mixchomp is a waste of time

the entire point of mixchomp is to hit ur checks w suprise coverage

[rotund delta]

u should also never use chain chomp on mega chomp

like ever

[feral canopy]

the entire point of slotting the mon with 170 attack into a enviroment that boosts its attack is so that u hit ur checks harder and kill them

[feral canopy]

wat

[stable blade]

yeah, like ferro which nothing else hits

[feral canopy]

are u talking about

mixed has been the main / one of the main sets for mchomp literally until last gen

[rotund delta]

wait really

[feral canopy]

yes....

[rotund delta]

that’s crazy

[feral canopy]

because sd sets in sand were poor

because it was hard to fit them without compensating in other slots

[rotund delta]

huh

[feral canopy]

it is hard to fit him on sand

[rotund delta]

[feral canopy]

because u have to check other thingsand

and ur not adding much more roles

it was used on some niche sands in sm

but mixed was the main one until scale

[feral canopy]

then... why not run something that actually switches into it

like mr heatran

prime sand candidate mon

[rotund delta]

mchomp kinda just sucks overall let’s be real even on sand i’d rather use dracozolt

[feral canopy]

shores up the matchup into lele pult whatever

or say zamazenta and tusk

which shore up a mu into gambit

which ur team loses to since ur check is ww skarm

[stable blade]

hm heatran might be a good addition

[feral canopy]

the clef set isnt awful but

wishtect sucks soft is better

and idt mono moon cm rocks is it in this economy

the ghold set is just bad evs

anyways

in its current state u cant just add something

[stable blade]

yeah clef hasn't gotten basically any use out of cm/moonblast tbh, of all of them I thought this one was the one that needed to change the most lol

[feral canopy]

its decent on sand

i have not built one lately with it but

moreso because i have not built that much lately

anyways

its probably one of the better options on sand

[stable blade]

oh yeah it's definitely a good presence on the team, walls a lot of things and wishpassing to ttar/skarm has been amazingly good

[feral canopy]

going of off what ive tried w the mon and how it was last gen

u want to run

[stable blade]

just cm/moon doesn't seem good for its role

[feral canopy]

a much more offensive version

though

of sand

[stable blade]

hm, how come?

[feral canopy]

dig protect gliscor and roostless skarm is not getting u anywhere

well, past 1400s that is

[feral canopy]

bc thats just how sand is slates to be right now

before this sand was more wincon based

cm clef cm reuni cm mtias type stuff

[stable blade]

imma be real with you, the gliscor is the one thing I'm not gonna change because it's like most of the fun I have in the battles lol

[feral canopy]

recovery nerf hit a lot of these guys hard, and cm clef got a hit as well w the new mons

reuni is the only okayish one

well i was thinking of just outright removing it

since it really doesnt serve a purpose here

that other stuff wont already

maybe a sd set

could be of use

but something like

mtar clef ferro av torn fighting filler

ur filler is either a ground ur speed control depending on what ur fighting slot is

[stable blade]

why fighting specifically?

[feral canopy]

because of mr natdex

(kingambit)

[stable blade]

I really haven't had much difficulty dealing with kingambit with just whirlwind and hazards tbh

[feral canopy]

yeah because ur 1400s

[stable blade]

fair

[feral canopy]

u look at ur team on preview it would seem okay

the moment skarm reveals the set

gambit terastals and 6-0s

and sds*

[stable blade]

also, if you are to run idbp, why not just run corviknight?

[feral canopy]

because skarm has spikes

the most broken move in the tier

if skarm did not have spikes it would suck a whole lot more

and corv would probably be a relevant mon

scary thoughts

[stable blade]

so what would the full set be? I'm having trouble figuring out how you'd use all moves you want

idbp roost spikes?

[feral canopy]

yes

[feral canopy]

@cobalt skiff whats speed control here

if fighting is tusk

[stable blade]

hm then perhaps you'd need something else to deal with set up sweepers?

[feral canopy]

like what

again nothing deals with an entire group of stuff

be specific

[stable blade]

idk, just the lack of whirlwind seems scary

[feral canopy]

u click id

the setup sweepers u beat will lose

um

u might be right

actually

nvm

what if the fighting is zama

whats the ground

@ hidun

[feral canopy]

theres nothing u beat with ww that u dont with id

well

not nothing but

the stuff u lose to with ww is definitely much more

[stable blade]

hm, ok, I think I'll change my set to that

a few other mons too

skarm evs? do you think it needs to outspeed anything specific?

or just hp/def?

[feral canopy]

mtar clef torn ferro tusk pult is what i wld recommend if u wanted a real team btw

shoukd function the same way urs does now

ghost wincon set spikes good defensive backbone

just minus the badp

[stable blade]

badp?

[feral canopy]

hit 200 at most

if not max maxp

200 is for max speed gambit if ur paranoid

max max is if ur not

[stable blade]

ok ok

[feral canopy]

because i am theorizing yung hidin

[stoic anchor]

Theres any vr atm of natdex or nah

[rotund delta]

yes

[stoic anchor]

Oh found it

[rotund delta]

iirc it’s kinda outdated but idk

[stoic anchor]

Kk either way ig ill try build it

[rotund delta]

it’s not that outdated

just like

a little bit

[feral canopy]

placements are roughly the same for the most parts

at most some stuff are 1-2 places up or down

cant think of anything major

[stoic anchor]

Its rly different from ss

Which is cool ig

[oblique bison]

Yea msy you suggest any sun setters?

[shadow oasis]

its usually torkoal

or zard Y

torkoal is nice cuz it can hold the rock and have good utility

[oblique bison]

K I'll switch out one member of my team

[rotund delta]

use yard imo

torkoal is rlly meh

[oblique bison]

K I'll swich out volcaruna or mega scizor

[rotund delta]

scizor

cuz u can’t have 2 megas

https://pokepast.es/4920cc33021ea9f1 trying to make a balance template to use for all my balance teams, what types do i need?

[celest merlin]

New NatDex OU RMT @limber crypt, @ember hollow, @pale spear, @cobalt skiff. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

[modest violet]

https://pokepast.es/10ffc23fac69b1c6 rate

[rotund delta]

chandy isnt viable

and zam is only viable in like

psyspam

even then its mid

[raven granite]

metronome is such a good move i like the consistent damage and utility it provides

and yknow the mlop named after a term that degrades trans people because that is what pokemon is all about

[iron summit]

Mega Pinsir is so based

[rotund delta]

?? what

where

did someone make a paste with the t slur as mlop's name

[subtle lance]

these two pokemon are terribly fun (not)

[rotund delta]

any mf who says that has a porn addiction

also that hatty is

why

she aint deserve that

[subtle lance]

it was legit this one

lmao

[rotund delta]

how tf did i not see that

[subtle lance]

i dont know 😭

[rotund delta]

hey man

i aint got my glasses

i cant see

call me velma cuz im fuckin blind

[subtle lance]

insane

[raven granite]

the mlop nick

[rotund delta]

yea i saw

[dusky carbon]

😭

[rotund delta]

we learned so much about him from one pokepaste

unfunny AND has a porn addiction!

wild

[shadow oasis]

this is crazy..

[modest violet]

ik

[rotund delta]

ur crazy awesome

[shadow oasis]

errrr

[rotund delta]

its a complime nt

[shadow oasis]

i know

i just dont know what to say

[dusky carbon]

i would say thank you here

[rotund delta]

smogon has conditioned this man to negativity

[dusky carbon]

add a emote while you’re at it

[shadow oasis]

i just

wasnt expecting it

thank u

[rotund delta]

yw

[raven granite]

i wouldn't compliment him if i were u

he doesn't really deserve them...

[rotund delta]

ynow what does tho

[rotund delta]

this balance template i havent finished because i am yet to get feedback on it

[shadow oasis]

errm what…

of course i deserve compliments

[sacred ember]

https://pokepast.es/9de14e9d2f1c267f wanted to do a Scizor + Kyurem core

[celest merlin]

New NatDex OU RMT @limber crypt, @ember hollow, @pale spear. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

[sacred ember]

Also clod shouldn’t be Tera dragon

Forgot why I put that

[sage swift]

https://pokepast.es/1414924ac3297e22

Any tips on improving this team?

[latent solar]

https://pokepast.es/835f1fa5b3de1823
tips on improving ? ty

[dusky carbon]

clod looks out of place here

[dusky carbon]

idk bro can’t really pinpoint anything w 3 mons

[dusky carbon]

why is this wabsorb clod here

[sacred ember]

probably cuz basculegion gets a kill every switch in

[dusky carbon]

rotom checks

[sacred ember]

The female one

[oblique bison]

https://pokepast.es/1bdfdc9cc0581c9a

how is this?

[fringe skiff]

https://pokepast.es/85d273c6c572dad0

[sage swift]

So i should run unaware?

[feral canopy]

team rater arc

[feral canopy]

i think this need a rebuild

[dusky carbon]

all for #ndpride

[feral canopy]

#ndpride

[rotund delta]

erm

my g

idk how to say this but

ur scizor

seems to be missing somethin

also band sleep powder sounds

really shit

[raven granite]

In this day and age it is easier to come out as GAY than it is a NATIONAL DEX PLAYER

[rotund delta]

i’m both

[raven granite]

Mons players r queer yes

[rotund delta]

verlisify on his way to quit mons now (good)

[lusty basalt]

https://pokepast.es/5d41f4a3ee300a23 rmt

[celest merlin]

New NatDex OU RMT @limber crypt, @ember hollow, @pale spear, @cobalt skiff. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

[rotund delta]

maybe run contrary on enam

it wont come into play often but if it gets parting shotted on or smthn like that itll boost it

[lusty basalt]

yah ig

anything else ud change?

[rotund delta]

well im not a rater so take what i say with a grain of salt but i find ting is super underwhelming

[lusty basalt]

wanted to have a ground and dark resist

cld maybe go kingambit over scizor and then another ground

[rotund delta]

tusk

[lusty basalt]

well the issue with that is not having a real steel

ting also kinda checks volc via tera

[rotund delta]

could add heatran

[lusty basalt]

over who

[rotund delta]

no hpground volc check + steel

lemme look

maybe torn?

and then swap ting for tusk

so u still have removal

[lusty basalt]

I dont wanna rely on enar as a fight resist

[rotund delta]

thats fair asf

[lusty basalt]

taunt is also usefull for fatter stuff

[rotund delta]

u can leave this as it is honestly

in my opinion ting is just

not that great

but if it fits well here its fine

but again im not a rater

[lusty basalt]

alr

[limber crypt]

this seems fine; i dont think theres any glaring issues

[oblique bison]

Yea i see i may need to swap some moves and i switch valiant with hatterene

[lament rain]

my friend group invited me to a "natdex draft league" that they are doing this monday where we are picking 3 ou pokemon, 3 uu pokemon, and 6 ru pokemon to teambuild with. I dont really know too much about comp pokemon compared to my friends but i want to win since i think it would be funny so I made this as like a concept for what i might use https://pokepast.es/8ccdcea3d86813ce. Saw people online using unburden sneasler and rillaboom which seemed fun so those were the OU pokemon i thought i would pick along with rotom wash because it just seems like a good pokemon. and then skarmory for hazard thingies and hydreigon for strong moves from UU and then primarina for a bulky thing to eat attacks and also click scald. asking for opinions on this because i assume everyone here probably knows more than me so i am very open to suggestions

[celest merlin]

New NatDex OU RMT @limber crypt, @ember hollow, @pale spear. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

[wanton kernel]

https://pokepast.es/ad8f1626eaa0f99d

[celest merlin]

New NatDex OU RMT @limber crypt, @ember hollow, @pale spear, @cobalt skiff. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

[wanton kernel]

just another rain team, if i can make any improvements notify me

[shadow oasis]

zapdos > killowatt

better into mons like kartana

and sneasler too

with static

you want ice punch on that swampert to hit the flying types aswell

kingambit should be max attack with black glasses on rain imo

thats it really

[feral drum]

https://pokepast.es/1acfc3190efa92df

First time building ND in a while and it's to cheese with Beat Up
what am I doing with my life?

[worldly hatch]

https://pokepast.es/41ecbe682ef9d517

[celest merlin]

New NatDex OU RMT @limber crypt, @ember hollow, @pale spear, @cobalt skiff. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

[worldly hatch]

need to build a half water hald dark team. its kinda specific. figured i wanted to make it stall and on the top of my head this is what i came up with. not a great team builder by anymeans so just wanted some input

[feral canopy]

weavile needs jolly in nd and cannot afford ada this generation

i dont get this

Volcanion @ Heavy-Duty Boots
Ability: Water Absorb
Tera Type: Grass
EVs: 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Modest Nature
IVs: 0 Atk

• Steam Eruption
• Flamethrower
• Earth Power
• Defog

why

u also have no pult pivot and get cleared by it

esp since vile isnt suit too

hard offense is very hard this gen because u can play really well to get into a super advantageous position but can still be fucked by tera, also building is near impossible without getting repetitive with structures or sacrificing big matchups

[feral canopy]

u have a lot of overlap here (tar mandi, pex alo gastro), u have a tar with no pursuit (and a generally awful set, u have no steel type, ur fogger is mandi and u can get easily shut down by spikes long term / tspikes pex, and generally breakers in general can push past u since u lack actual strong defensive presences, just some pivots and a few specific ones, np torn, np ghold, lele, yard are some notable ones

nvm i just saw what u said, ya thate not possible, i assume its for some pixelmon or discord game or whatever, u might get some kind of workable team bo / balance but its kind of dire

[wanton kernel]

https://pokepast.es/19f8789fd2b13650

pursuit gambit is for the element of surprise, and if they predict sucker punch, to punish mindgames

[feral canopy]

u literally posted this less than a day ago, and u got a response

[wanton kernel]

i think i made some changes to this tho

[feral canopy]

u sure did not make any changes that george mentioned

[rotund delta]

yea u should like

never use kilo

in nd

because zap is just better

in every way

[wanton kernel]

well

today is gamenight so, im gonna use other team

cause the other team has that element of surprise

[raven granite]

I will surprise my opponents by intentionally losing

[dusky carbon]

hatin

it’s just a 5v6

[lusty basalt]

https://pokepast.es/ca17ba12e1876ebd rmt

[celest merlin]

New NatDex OU RMT @limber crypt, @ember hollow, @pale spear. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

[limber crypt]

is this gen 8 nd?

[lusty basalt]

yes

[limber crypt]

i think u would get more mileage out of hdb volc and cm lati, but it seems fine otherwise

double fog with psychium isnt bad per se, but hdb volc is just easier go pivot in

[lusty basalt]

well the idea was that psychium allows me to muzzle past pex relativly easily and pursuit+knock cleck eliminates the other volc checks

*clef

[rotund delta]

https://pokepast.es/150f1d97c671e9c1

i didn’t know what dark i wanted

so i improvised

i wanted to go gambitless since i’ve been letting him carry me way too much

[shadow oasis]

could maybe go like

weavile

[rotund delta]

true

[celest merlin]

New NatDex OU RMT @limber crypt, @ember hollow, @pale spear, @cobalt skiff. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

[feral canopy]

.

u have got to be kidding me

no way u literally copy pasted r8s cress team

and asked for it to be rated

delete this before u embarrass urself even further bro

please do not try and pass teams off as ur own

it is insulting to the original builder and only hurts ur credibility

[sacred ember]

https://pokepast.es/14dd4eaf41516711

Dark spam HO

inspired from an SM team

[pale spear]

LOOOOOOL

bro went off

[lusty basalt]

https://pokepast.es/250ad3135281ad3c rmt

[celest merlin]

New NatDex OU RMT @limber crypt, @ember hollow, @pale spear. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

[lusty basalt]

volc is supposed to be tera grass

[subtle lance]

Boots on volc

But i guess this seems pretty fun

Also I like tera blast tera ground volc > HP ground but idk

It seems fairly solid tho

But ask someone actually good lmfao

[feral canopy]

volc shld be timid too

im ngl

i don like dd pult

nowadays

feel its so mickey

[lusty basalt]

anything else that cld fit? I thought about gambit but sucker+lele seems bad

same w dnite

[rotund delta]

https://pokepast.es/9b35e570428171a3

[celest merlin]

New NatDex OU RMT @limber crypt, @ember hollow, @pale spear. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

[rotund delta]

ye

[limber crypt]

u can consider av torn over gambit but this teams mostly fine tbh; maybe suit gambit too

[rotund delta]

putting suit over ihead

cuz ghold is annoying asf

[feral canopy]

put it over sd lol

u have glasses already

no need for sd suit

lele shld also be tera fairy

[rotund delta]

changes done

ty

[rotund delta]

also made gambit tera flyinh

[celest merlin]

New NatDex OU RMT @limber crypt, @ember hollow, @pale spear. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

[rotund delta]

bots brokey

but anyws

https://pokepast.es/67b7bdd8679c1431

[dusky carbon]

U think tera is gonna get banned

[rotund delta]

yuh

[iron summit]

Moon is banned

[rotund delta]

i know

this is for post tera ban

[hardy gust]

https://pokepast.es/85292028ddcb55bc

[celest merlin]

New NatDex OU RMT @limber crypt, @ember hollow, @pale spear, @cobalt skiff. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

[hardy gust]

ngl idk what im doing but im tryna run stall

but the lopunny and pult are there cause i like to have 1-2 offense mons to clean up or beat major threats to stall

[cobalt skiff]

so semi stall

in that case thats just bulky offense

[hardy gust]

yes

bulky offense attempt

long story but i need specifically a bulky offense team cause it has a good matchup vs what i need to fight

[pulsar gull]

I'm building a team for pixelmon right now but our rules on PvP are Nat Dex OU. While "Gen 9" we don't have the "Terastallizing" mechanic. However we have access to the Hisuian pokemon. Pokedex wise, the only pokemon we don't have are entries 917-927, 931, 935-937, 940 - 947, 950- 959, 962-967, 971-979, 981-987, 989-993, and 999-1008. I'm currently thinking of this Offensive Rain-Team (https://pokepast.es/e8d662ca3e649fee). I currently don't like the 4 Special Attackers but this team works pretty well for me. I just started out into competitive pokemon from Loomian Legacy and any advice would help. I'd like to use at least the Urshifu in the team.

[feral canopy]

yeah ur not gna get much help here

natdex minus 50+ pokemon, no tera, and most likely a lot of other stuff knowing pixelmon

a standard rain team wld be like pelipper mpert barra zapdos ferro and a filler

generally gambit or av torn t

[pulsar gull]

I appreciate the help tho it's kinda weird cause on smogon I'm doing sorta fine in gen 9 nat dex ou with the team. But i appreciate teha dvice

[civic saddle]

https://pokepast.es/4c54016ebb2e8bab
Zard Y balance

[celest merlin]

New NatDex OU RMT @limber crypt, @ember hollow, @pale spear, @cobalt skiff. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

[civic saddle]

Also thorn Tera type is weird

i frogo to change it

[shadow oasis]

you probably want some sort of hazard removal on here somewhere

[civic saddle]

Spin tusk?

[shadow oasis]

oh yeah

hmm

[civic saddle]

I was gonna be doing volc over heatran

But I really wanted rocks and with volc it would just be offense

[shadow oasis]

i think tran is fine here

maybe go wash over lando to keep the water resist and pult over ferro to maintain speed

i think double ground is unnecessary

[civic saddle]

Alr

what pult set

[shadow oasis]

ddance pult is fine here

[civic saddle]

Alr

Wouldn't sun inflict with wash?

the reason why I chose Ferro over wash for water resist was that it didn't get less damage in sun

[shadow oasis]

i see your point but you are gonna click hydro pump rarely in my opinion, and slow volt switches into everything is great and keeps momentum up

[rotund delta]

https://pokepast.es/fb5b85235eefe456

trying out rott

[feral canopy]

why is there garg

also this looks like my hisamu team

https://pokepast.es/1bf078d527b66452

[rotund delta]

for pult

garg has been putting in mad work all around

[rotund delta]

i built this from scratch lol

[feral canopy]

u got av torn and hisamu

[feral canopy]

ye ik just commenting

anws u lack a lop chekck

and id garg cplay

[rotund delta]

both of those die to dd pult

[feral canopy]

and real water resist

thats where ferrothorn and clef come into play

hisamu can also force sucker 5050s worst case

[rotund delta]

behind a sub?

[feral canopy]

who is it subbing on?

for free?

[rotund delta]

ghold

[feral canopy]

also read the last 2 words

ghold

[rotund delta]

im not gonna keep ghold in on pult

[feral canopy]

its not subbing on ghold for free buckaroo

u very much can

since its forced to z to break

regardless

[feral canopy]

ur team is v similiar to this

clef + physdef ferro and hisamu are more than enough

[rotund delta]

if it reveals its dd then yea im staying in

[feral canopy]

if its on a ho

its dd

if its not on ho

its not dd

or

its dd but it wont do anything

because it wont have time to setuop

the non ho dd mu is really a play better scenario

u will have more than enough for such a niche mu already in ferro clef

[rotund delta]

lele

switch it in on a fake out

[feral canopy]

okay i meant a mon that can ac tually switch into lop without dying

[rotund delta]

rebuilding

[feral canopy]

good luck

this mon is hard to build well methinks

without compounding weaknesses

[rotund delta]

https://pokepast.es/5285d3b58fc57345

[feral canopy]

check for the lopunny of the mega variety

gargler also looks quite scary

fat builds in general kinda pwn this unless u play amazingly

[rotund delta]

hisui rott and av torn + ghold removal blocking fuck fat

[modest violet]

https://pokepast.es/124567497afb27e8 rate and roast

[raven granite]

Tapu koko is literally just good pinchurchin no

And surely terrain extender is not necessary

[modest violet]

tru, but i just get a kick outta using pincurchin

and fair

ill swap it for a scarf

[raven granite]

everyone else here gets a kick out of using good stuff so i feel asking a competitive server might not be the best idea

[modest violet]

i like screwing with peoples heads

[feral canopy]

fat has 60 boots mons, u have 1

[rotund delta]

ty for changing the mlop nickname

[modest violet]

yw

[rotund delta]

screwing with peoples heads by deliberately losing

[slim tide]

I made a cute little theme team:

https://pokepast.es/55d172ed096bca95

[celest merlin]

New NatDex OU RMT @limber crypt, @ember hollow, @pale spear, @cobalt skiff. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

[raven granite]

theme teams are a womp womp

also this is

probably one of the worst subjects possible

[slim tide]

I’m in the gallows, I’m allowed to joke about it

[dusky carbon]

Scovilllian>weezing

fits more to the aesthetic

[slim tide]

Really? I think Weezing is too perfect

[dusky carbon]

it’s trees burning

scovillians represents that easily

[sacred ember]

wtf 💀

[slim tide]

scovillain is a pepper you dimwit

Weezing is better. Toxic air.

[hardy gust]

https://pokepast.es/f85483539b6bb248

[dusky carbon]

no it’s grass fire

[slim tide]

Good point, but I don’t think I need another grass or fire type on the team

[hardy gust]

what are we representing

[slim tide]

And Lilligant is already the tree, duh

[hardy gust]

make it tera fire ofc

[slim tide]

Lmao let’s gooo

[slim tide]

The wildfire smoke reached my area and I made a team to cope 💀

[hardy gust]

😭

[slim tide]

right here

[hardy gust]

i see

[slim tide]

I had to shorten the names, sadly

[hardy gust]

i like it