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[distant trellis]

Or that supporting cast

Tbf reg j is bo1 cts

Still tho the team isn't great yeah

[pearl valley]

this team does extremely poorly into chi yu

your only hope is calyrex ice which gets outsped

indeedee dies to dark pulse

also there are ZERO protects

[sand minnow]

https://pokepast.es/8fb6914b803bfb0a Reg J trick room. Main focus is Kingambit since I got a Shiny brave 0 speed one and I'd like to ribbon master it, so why not build a team around it since Kingambit is an actual viable mon? Main concerns is too many Psychic types and lack of ways to stop amoonguss, as well as being unsure on Hoopa still.

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[ripe turret]

you have item duplicates first of all

[sand minnow]

...I may be dumb

[ripe turret]

and I think it’s a little too passive for hard TR

[ripe turret]

happens lol

[sand minnow]

https://pokepast.es/4664ed812fa88df1 there. Quick fixed

[sand minnow]

Oh wait I didn't see this meesage
Passive? I think it has some strong hitters in there, but what would you change? Maybe swap out indeedee for a sweeper and give Hoopa Psyshock or something like that?

[ripe turret]

I think just go clam over lefties on cir

otherwise your entire team minus hands gets walled by incineroar

(and I guess kingambit)

[sand minnow]

Clear amulet. Got it. Thanks for the advice dude!

[unique nebula]

Deoxys-Attack @ Focus Sash
Ability: Pressure
Level: 50
Shiny: Yes
Tera Type: Electric
EVs: 212 Def / 84 SpA / 212 SpD
Modest Nature
IVs: 0 Atk

• Protect
• Expanding Force
• Thunderbolt
• Calm Mind

it somewhat works

[sand minnow]

...Is this for my team or-

[unique nebula]

i was trying it out and playing around with deoxy builds

[unique nebula]

I wanted to build a sweeper deoxys

[unique nebula]

No

Does the deoxys work can someone tell me

[ripe turret]

no

not that set at least

because you are not setting up anything with 20 def and 20 spdef

[ripe turret]

btw there are some other things that I didn't have time to address

I do not think hoopa is a restricted worth using, even if you do pretty sure unbound is just better

I'd go AV hands and black glasses gambit, hands imo needs it more than gambit

indeedee makes the team a little awkward because you can't use priority with gambit/hands

[ripe turret]

also you have no reason to be running bulk on a sash set

[sand minnow]

Right. I know Indeedee needs to go. I just am still unsure about what to replace it with

Also Hoopa was replaced by Magearna

[flat eagle]

Choice band seemed the smartest. CC is the best physical fighting attack. Like I said, the ONLY reason I put EVs is to use EF in Psychic Terrain. And again, willing to change that. Crunch is also changeable to something else. Did some play testing with it, and discovered Abomasnow is just too vulnerable. So the core of my team is Cal-I, Alolan Ninetails, and Indeedee-F. Like I said, it's a snow team, and 2 ice types don't make a snow team to me.
The 0 speed ivs on Pau and for 9tails is for Trick Room, although they might be too fast even with all that speed reduction.
I was hoping for some guidance to make it better. What I could do to change it to. If that means dropping Abomasnow, Terapagos, or even Chien-Pau, I'm willing to try. Although Chien-Pau is a bit on the critical side... I use it on my ESKiller Arceus team, and that has allowed me to ohko bulky resists like Magerna or Zacian.

[pseudo current]

https://pokepast.es/f9435f2fec3429cc Ive been considering taunt or willo on incin, and mence feels great although im split between protect and draco meteor, and kinda wanna try covert cloak worst matchups are annihilape and gambit however they feel completely doable, am also considering av ursa so dengo gets life orb but idk, also, i wanna maybe try tera ghost on it? idk, need advice on what to try, not necessarily whats meta

[lusty zinc]

Need assistance with my trick room team: https://pokepast.es/ceb483a6854b3e33'

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[sleek laurel]

Team looks good, I wouldn’t change the items idt

You can consider Hisui Ursaluna and Life Orb Gholdengo tho especially since this is p2

You also lack physical offense compared to Special and you have a lot of stuff that can take side Earthquakes (which is also an emergency button anyway)

There are a few changes worth noting tho, mainly in EVs and Ghold’s Tera Type, which should be either Water or Dragon (Steel is mainly a Specs-exclusive Tera Type)

Also Mence probably wants Tera Steel here, it’s more of a support Mon on this team and Dual Wingbeat doesn’t become 60 BP anyway

Because it’s a multi-hit move

But ig Flying can still work because it’s just a good typing period lol

I can get you some EV spreads if you want

[flat eagle]

https://pokepast.es/89ff6a59009981a8 Updated the core team. looking for 2 more pokemon that would fit thematically. thinking about a Baxcalibur @ Loaded Dice
Ability: Thermal Exchange
Level: 50
Tera Type: Fairy
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Atk / 4 Def
Brave Nature

• Ice Shard
• Icicle Spear
• Glaive Rush
• Swords Dance
  If this is a decent Baxcaliber, would just need one more to fill out my team

[pseudo current]

Yeah that would be great man! Although i tried hisui ursaluna and honestly it just kinda crumbled compared to bloodmoon, u can try if u like, idk if its a skill issue or matchup issue against ghost mons, the goal is to have ursa fast enough to blood moon an anniliape or have mence dual wingbeat and get ko’d by hyper voice

[midnight hamlet]

trying out this reg h sandstorm team I made. It's been doing really well so far https://pokepast.es/1bacb7f49fcdd0df
(I have now changed reuniclus's tera from water to dark)

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[ripe turret]

it seems like you’re leaning way too heavily into your sand mode that can be shut down by other weathers

you have basically nothing for rain

houndstone and sandaconda are also pretty bad, reuniclus doesn’t really seem to have a role, and grimmsnarl not running screens is odd

you also don’t seem to have a defensive backbone

[unique nebula]

What should I run for it instead

[pseudo current]

@sleek laurel whenever you het the chance to talk or even play I would love to

[ripe turret]

sash, max/max, and a coverage move or smth over cm

[midnight hamlet]

sandaconda is basically a tech for messing with other weather teams. I'm probably going to move the covert cloak to it. Then, I can lead it and grimmsnarl and trigger sand spit with fake out. This messes with teams trying to lead a swift swim mon before switching in their rain setter and teams that just lead the rain setter immediately, maintaining weather control

[unique nebula]

What does max/max mean

[ripe turret]

max spatk max speed

in EVs

[unique nebula]

Ok

[midnight hamlet]

against teams not using weather like trick room teams, I can lead tyranitar instead and use taunt to prevent trick room from going up

reuniclus I could admittedly swap, I mainly picked it bc it's immune to sandstorm (and spore) and has utility with ally switch and encore

[ripe turret]

it just seems like you’re way too dependent on your weather

[midnight hamlet]

to an extent yeah. Excadrill is almost totally reliant on it a lot of the time

[ripe turret]

sand spit is an interesting tech but you also don’t really have any offensive pressure if you lead conda grimm

[midnight hamlet]

conda has a pretty decent attack stat so I can probably fire off an earthquake or outrage at the same time I'm making the fake out play, especially if I run covert cloak to prevent fake out from flinching it

[ripe turret]

107 is pretty bad tbh

also without running any speed on it it’ll just die before even attacking

because even without weather there’s a lot of things that outspeed 91

[midnight hamlet]

true, might move some investment there

I'm not sure what I'd replace houndstone and/or reuniclus with

I honestly like how reuniclus is working with the rest of the team but houndstone can definitely go

[ripe turret]

I think you just need a second mode tbh

if you want to keep reuniclus you could add a psyspam mode

with TR

[midnight hamlet]

I was thinking I could drop recover for TR on reuniclus and swap houndstone for something that does well in TR

[ripe turret]

I’d just go with indeedee tbh

you already have quite a few slow mons

[midnight hamlet]

fair

[ripe turret]

I would also definitely run screens on grimm

[midnight hamlet]

I suppose follow me has similar effects to ally switch

[ripe turret]

yeah

it’s better tbh because you can’t get predicted

[midnight hamlet]

I personally don't really like running screen grimm, or at least not both screens at once, bc I think it limits its versatility too much

[ripe turret]

at that point you could just run a diff mon

like incin

grimm’s main draw is the screens

not a perfect example but you get what I mean

[midnight hamlet]

yeah, I mainly use grimm for prankster status moves like parting shot

on my reg j team I use scary face so that I can outspeed and ohko certain fast restricted pokemon, mainly shadow rider and miraidon

grimmsnarl halves the target's speed and the partner follows up with a super effective attack

[sleek laurel]

Back

Go #comp-general and ping me lol

[midnight hamlet]

and it also gives me the hilarious ability to halve my own speed inside of TR

[sleek laurel]

I’ll get you the EVs meanwhile

[midnight hamlet]

but yeah for this team incineroar is probably better bc I don't really need priority parting shot all that badly

I think I'm going to keep the item and moves mostly the same but swap spirit break for knock off

[flat eagle]

https://pokepast.es/eff81838c820d2f8
Trying to figure how to make this Reg I mono-fairy team work. Even with Light Screen and Parting Shot seem to not do a damn thing about Kyogre WS.

[ripe turret]

1. this is a reg j team, not a reg i team
2. if you want to get a monotype team rated this is not the place for that

[flat eagle]

ok. gonna post it in the RIGHT channel

[ripe turret]

mainly because we don’t deal with teambuilding w/ arbitrary restrictions

[flat eagle]

well, just posted it over there, but there aren't any raters there, and Chatbot actually suggested to post it here instead.

[torpid mason]

Yes, this isn't the space because you are requesting arbitrary restrictions on your team

!arbitraryformats

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[short ore]

https://pokepast.es/ed60397275228ea2

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[short ore]

is this any good
i just clicked mons that i heard were strong
except araquanid
i just like araquanid

[pearl valley]

heavy duty boots are useless

Facade is also very situational, heavy slam over it and wild charge over thunder punchh

ogerpon should have horn leech or wood hammer over follow me

Araquanid is just not good at all without rain, and even with rain it’s not very good

I can tell you’re a singles player

also electabuzz is pointless since you already have ogerpon

replace it with whimsicott

you can also pick 2 restricted pokemon in this format

[short ore]

ok
i switched facade to drain punch

[short ore]

dang
should i use covert cloak

[pearl valley]

sitrus berry/safety goggles

[short ore]

i play primarily mono bug in doubles ou (results are not to be spoken of)

[short ore]

oh ok

[pearl valley]

you already have close combat…

or you can replace close combat with low kick or heavy slam

[short ore]

ah ok that makes sense
i figured it would make sense because drain punch wont kill everything

[short ore]

should i go tailwind encore protect helping hand focus sash?

[pearl valley]

tailwind encore moonblast light screen covert cloak

[short ore]

oh alr

[short ore]

is reshiram usable or buns

[ripe turret]

it's complete trash

electabuzz is not good this format

[short ore]

🙁

[ripe turret]

neither is araquanid

[short ore]

he is gone

[ripe turret]

ah ok

yeah I would run drain punch, wild charge, and low kick as the last three moves on hands

[short ore]

this is what i have atm

[ripe turret]

ok

[short ore]

ik tera blast flying iron hands is kinda stupid but i want to try it out

im currently trying to decide on a 2nd restricted

[ripe turret]

with miraidon?

common pairings with mirai are cir, lunala, zama, and (to a lesser extent) gdon

[short ore]

is this in reference to the flying iron hands or the 2nd restricted

[ripe turret]

2nd restricted

[short ore]

oh ok

[short ore]

should i run a special attacker because all of my other damage on the team aside from miraidon is susceptible to getting intimidated

[ripe turret]

what's your team right now

is it just the mons minus araquanid and electabuzz

[short ore]

oh i forgot to send it
https://pokepast.es/0c95bdede511e7c0

also i have tailwind whimsicott now

[ripe turret]

ok run tera fairy on mirai if you're gonna go with dazzling gleam

[short ore]

ok

[ripe turret]

I'd run rocky helmet on incin

because the calys make berries useless

ogerpon-w is a weird choice here

run tera bug/ghost on incin

tera dark on whims

give incin more bulk

252 188+ 76 is the best

[short ore]

alr
i havent changed any of the tera types yet aside from iron hands and miraidon

[short ore]

what are your thoughts on eject button incineroar

[ripe turret]

honestly don't see what it does

I'd run electric seed lunala for your last mon

and also replace ogerpon-w with like

uh

[short ore]

since i have no protect on incineroar it wont get koed if people double into it
also since its dark as base type and bug tera there is more of a threat of it being switched in to take a hit for lunala or something ig

[ripe turret]

I don't think there's a lot of situations where that would come into play tbh

[short ore]

alr

[ripe turret]

you already have intimidate, fake out, etc

which helps it stay alive

[mighty otter]

oh this exists

rate it https://pokepast.es/a5d5b14c06d99f5e

its incomplete

[short ore]

ok

[short ore]

thank you for the tips

and tricks

[short ore]

this is VERY similar to a wolfevgc team

[distant trellis]

lowk just use his perish trap atp yeah

damp rock is bad in vgc too

[midnight hamlet]

idk if it's just the way I'm trying to pilot it but I've been doing worse since making the updates to the team. This is it now https://pokepast.es/56ab5e0b9aaa88ec

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[midnight hamlet]

I think I've just pivoted too much away from my sandstorm mode while not committing enough to TR/psyspam, leaving me in a position where I can't really do either one reliably

[misty tapir]

https://pokepast.es/d013903980387053 Can I replace one of these mons with a fairy type?

[midnight hamlet]

probably annihilape or dragonite

whimsicott could be good as a way to get tailwind with priority

did you have a specific fairy type in mind?

[ripe turret]

yeah there are a lot of problems here

the item on ttar does absolutely nothing because you should be able to get multiple sandstorms up in a game if you preserve it carefully, change it to an AV set probably

switch the items on excadrill and hatterene - not quite sure why you have clam on a spatker, and go with SD over brick break since ground and steel hit basically everything that fighting does and brick break is just a really weak move

I’d run mystical fire over protect on hatterene to hit steel types

not having TR on indeedee is kinda criminal, replace protect

honestly don’t see what murkrow does here

flare blitz>protect on incin, you can also run taunt if you go with AV ttar

[ripe turret]

that was supposed to be a reply to this

[midnight hamlet]

Idk about assault vest but you're right that I should replace the smooth rock

I had TR off indeedee bc the idea is I can lead it and hatterene and use follow me as hatterene sets TR up

[ripe turret]

you should still have it because you can still set it up in the case that hatterene is gone or you didn’t bring it

because ttar and incin are still relatively slow mons

[midnight hamlet]

murkrow is mostly here for haze admittedly, I found I don't have a good answer for stamina archaludon sets

[ripe turret]

I’d also run psychic seed on indeedee

because mental herb I find just isn’t as useful most of the time

[midnight hamlet]

true, indeedee has good special bulk. I'm mostly just afraid of taunt bc that completely shuts indeedee down

and without protect I have no real way to prevent that from happening, particularly if the taunt user doesn't have prankster (which would get stopped by psy terrain)

maybe I'll replace murkrow with another special attacker that works better with the sandstorm component of the team than hatterene does

or just outright something that checks bulky steel types like corviknight and archaludon, which excadrill and ttar have trouble breaking through

[ripe turret]

tbh you could just make this like a sneasler indeedee ttar team

but I don’t really want to suggest that because it’s boring

[midnight hamlet]

yeah I want to make sandstorm work bc it's a fun and interesting team compared to the rain/sun/TR teams that usually dominate reg h

I delight in trying to make off-meta strategies work, I do the same thing with my warhammer army lists

[ripe turret]

also you didn't really need to replace reuniclus lol

[midnight hamlet]

probably not I'm tempted to replace murkrow with it

I was really happy with how he was doing and I can even replace psychic with expanding force to benefit in the psyspam mode

I think I want to keep the ally switch tech on him as well so I can run rocky helmet. TTar and Excadrill are both weak to fighting, and the most common fighting attacks are all contact moves, so if I anticipate a swing into ttar or excadril I can ally switch and get some free chip damage

I'd run follow me instead but reuniclus can't learn it

can do the same thing to spore if I run overcoat instead of magic guard

it doesn't really fix my archaludon/corviknight problem but I can probably run Thunder on it or something for corviknight

[flint pewter]

This team is a mess tbh

Is this any good?

[mighty otter]

No its not

https://pokepast.es/792bb4cc3875ad23 alr I finished it

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[mighty otter]

can I get some suggestions

[distant trellis]

This is in fact incredibly similar to wolfe's toronto team

But downgraded

[mighty otter]

Its not wolfes team bro

[distant trellis]

It's rain perish

[mighty otter]

I just thought of perish trap rain team and free styled it

[broken shuttle]

it's incredibly similar regardless

but anyways

[distant trellis]

It's the same structure but it has a fair few flaws to the point where honestly if you rly wanna run rain perish I'd just run his

[mighty otter]

Is there a way I can make it my own and improve it?

[distant trellis]

Well perish trap in reg h is a little restrictive

There aren't many good singers and politoed is by far and away the best one

Primarina is a better pokemon but it has better things to be doing than running perish song

[mighty otter]

Should I make archaludon more bulky in spD?

I wouldn't need to increase his normal defense since I have voltorb

mb electrode

[broken shuttle]

electrode-hisui is not good, don't use it, if you want something that will fill that role run maushold since it gives your archaludon stamina via population bomb & gives you follow me

your archaludon evs are pretty bad, you should go bulky if you're gonna run assault vest

damp rock is a really useless item on politoed because you'll often play against opposing weather or not even take advantage of the weather— for the perish mode a longevity-boosting item like leftovers is much better here

incin should be protect over taunt so you can play into perish trap with it better👍

https://www.smogon.com/dex/sv/formats/vgc/

[mighty otter]

alr

[broken shuttle]

there is an archludon entry with a better ev spread👍

[mighty otter]

I just thought of using electrode for the rain dance

bc sometimes I'll just bring him instead of politoed and gothitelle

[distant trellis]

It's moreso that electrode is a weak pokemon

[mighty otter]

I got the sash on him for a reason

[distant trellis]

It does set rain true but you can dedicate that slot to something more useful

And the nice thing about archaludon is that it's not too dependent on rain

[broken shuttle]

^

[distant trellis]

It just needs to get off an electro shot or 2 aside from that it'll function fine in any weather, so a second rain setter isn't rly necessary

[broken shuttle]

you also have gothitelle so you should consistently be able to win the weather war

[distant trellis]

And even so there's better rain dance users

[mighty otter]

So replace electrode with mashould?

[broken shuttle]

thus rain dance is kind of redundant

ya

[mighty otter]

Wouldn't I take more damage then I want tho?

something like this?

for archaludon

[mighty otter]

like this?

[broken shuttle]

Archaludon @ Assault Vest
Level: 50
Ability: Stamina
EVs: 252 HP / 4 Def / 36 SpA / 196 SpD / 20 Spe
IVs: 0 Atk
Tera Type: Grass
Modest Nature

• Electro Shot
• Body Press
• Flash Cannon
• Draco Meteor

[whole moon]

I want to start learning vgc but uh idk where to start

Anyone got any advice

[mighty otter]

alr, replace the electrode with the maushold correct?

[broken shuttle]

yes

[distant trellis]

Fwiw I'd say that power herb archaludon would be better cause it can protect and that's important for perish but if perish isn't ur main wincon then it's not too important

[broken shuttle]

#comp-general question

[whole moon]

Oh ok

[mighty otter]

does this look good so far?

idk what evs and item I should get

[broken shuttle]

protect/pop bomb/follow me/ filler move

[mighty otter]

I just replace U turn with protect

[broken shuttle]

go wide lens max max

[mighty otter]

max max?

huh?

[mighty otter]

wdym by max max

[broken shuttle]

252/252

[mighty otter]

on what tho

attack and speed?

[broken shuttle]

yes

[mighty otter]

a speed nature?

[broken shuttle]

yes

jolly

[mighty otter]

alr, heres the team https://pokepast.es/b10b4a053a41143e

is it looking good now?

or better than before

[broken shuttle]

chilling water -> weather ball & earth power -> encore on toed

otherwise it's good

[mighty otter]

alr

[clever imp]

https://pokepast.es/276b7ee19ae935ea Its been a while since I played vgc but I wanted to make a trick room team this time what are your thoughts?

[pearl valley]

I’d say torkoal could be a good fit for this team

[broken shuttle]

usually teams like these opt for a faster gholdengo to use outside of trick room and then flamigo last to handle gholdengo and incin

you should make it fast gholdengo here fs

as for the hydreigon slot you can probably keep it as is

i don’t think specs is great on it though

something like tailwind/protect/draco/dark pulse doesn’t sound bad

tera fairy gleam on gholdengo is not good btw

use tera steel or water with nasty plot>gleam

[clever imp]

ok

[woeful fog]

trying out reg H. don't know if this is atrocious or not
https://pokepast.es/d562c3a62b1b9f5c

[mighty otter]

https://pokepast.es/e4392f94a7d936ab alr what next

this is a new team im working on

reg H is starting to interest me despite me being dog shit at it

[pearl valley]

unfinished teams go to #comp-general i think

[mighty otter]

alr

I was asking for a rating so far tho

[frigid dome]

Yoo

[mighty otter]

https://pokepast.es/db983b31b971319e done, what do yall think

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[mighty otter]

sneasler tera is dark now

[misty tapir]

https://pokepast.es/fee5c435de1d2cd4

[tribal void]

https://pokepast.es/04f3f5d184683f96 ive been really liking using this team but im wondering if any improvements could possibly be made

[ripe turret]

move ursa's hp investment into spdef

run armor cannon and TR over dark pulse and heat wave on armarouge

wise glasses is kinda a bad item

224 is not an EV benchmark on indeedee/amoonguss, move 4 from spatk on indeedee and spdef on amoonguss

also run 156 def on amoonguss so you get the extra point from the nature

[haughty crag]

https://pokepast.es/1a2dc0a8c3e6f1fe can someone rate my reg H rain team?

[lusty zinc]

Need assistance with my trick room team: https://pokepast.es/ceb483a6854b3e33'

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[mighty otter]

indeedee has trick room tho

[flint pewter]

Dont do boots dawg,they are useless in vgc

[flint pewter]

I have a optimized team of this model but it changes a lot of the mons,plus I ❤️ enamorous-T.

Try protect over swords dance on caly-i

You can do clear amulet instead of boots

Dont do order up dozo withiut tatsu

Body press is also kinda bad without tatsu

You can try:fissure,yawn,protect,wave crash

Psychic isnt good on hoopa here,mixed sets are mostly a no go

I can tell you play singles a lot

If you wanna run weakness policy try something that can activate it or just do band or white herb/sitrus berry to play around magician

[mighty otter]

https://pokepast.es/5fdb4182e991dd86 I just now changed the team a little bit

[lusty zinc]

Yes but no

I haven’t played either seriously in close to 9 years

[flint pewter]

Ohhhh ok

[lusty zinc]

But I did play more singles for sure

[flint pewter]

Whats up with the a leftovers on ursa

[lusty zinc]

I’m wondering if I swap out dodonzo

I don’t get a ton of use I feel like

[mighty otter]

To keep it alive idk

[lusty zinc]

do I run hyperspace hole on hoopa @flint pewter

breaking protection doesn’t seem like a bad idea

idk what else I’d put in that slot

maybe a coverage punch?

[flint pewter]

Do hyperspace furry om a physicals set

[lusty zinc]

and then tr/protect and what?

coverage?

was wondering maybe gunk shot

to help with fairies

and then run psychic coverage on enamorous?

https://pokepast.es/202299d06c691690

[ripe turret]

means that you can follow me + TR instead of just praying that indeedee lives

[pearl valley]

doesn’t enamorus have contrary

[lusty zinc]

incarnate

not therian

[flat eagle]

https://pokepast.es/f4b02bda03113868

1. Kyogre is my main damage dealer. Tera Water, Choice Specs (MAYBE with a HH from Indeedee-F) REALLY hurts (OHKOs anything that's not protected by Wide Guard it seems)
2. Cal-S is my other Legendary damage dealer (EF is used in Indeedee's Psychic Terrain). Since Kyogre generally steals the show, haven't really seen what it could do.
3. Indeedee-F is my main support Pokemon. Here for redirection (and if I can get it off, Helping Handing Kyogre)
4. Chi-Yu is there to increase the damage of Kyogre (but I haven't brought it to a game yet). Thinking about giving U-RS it's AV.
5. Urshifu-RS is here simply because I think Surging Strikes could do a lot of damage in the rain. CB is probably the wrong item on it, though. AV (taken from Chi-Yu instead) or MW would be better, I think.
6. Smeargle is here for Wide Guard and be a secondary redirector if Indeedee isn't around. Changed it's Tera Type to Grass for a Spore and Powder immunity.

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[sleek laurel]

Smeargle is a bit forced on this team and Chi-Yu can run Dark Pulse > Hex, Ursh should also run Jet > Drain Punch

Probably Scarf Ursh because you have enough offense

And you really want Speed control here

And I’d also do Tornadus > Smeargle to set Tailwind for Kyogre and give it Rain Dance for the Sun matchup

[pearl valley]

https://pokepast.es/c591ab28638929db what we thinking

[severe gull]

https://pokepast.es/b1b02d9e1d3899a7 reg I/J team

[ripe turret]

looks mostly good

your EVs are a little unrefined but the team in general looks solid

[pearl valley]

i ev’d dragapult just to be 1 point faster than sneasler

[ripe turret]

yea I saw that

dragapult, sneasler, and magmar are good

just the others

[pearl valley]

What’s wrong with gambit

[ripe turret]

gambit's ok ig

[pearl valley]

should i go grassy seed sneasler?

[ripe turret]

there's something you can calc for I think but I'm too lazy to do it rn

[ripe turret]

sure

but sash is also good

personally I like sash more but up to you

[pearl valley]

yeah, seed is only good if rillaboom is also chosen

else its useless

or if the other team brings rillaboom

[ripe turret]

yeah

[ripe turret]

Rillaboom @ Assault Vest
Level: 50
Ability: Grassy Surge
EVs: 252 HP / 116 Atk / 4 Def / 60 SpD / 76 Spe
Tera Type: Fire
Adamant Nature

• Wood Hammer
• Grassy Glide
• Fake Out
• High Horsepower

Primarina @ Throat Spray
Level: 50
Ability: Liquid Voice
EVs: 236 HP / 68 Def / 108 SpA / 12 SpD / 84 Spe
IVs: 0 Atk
Tera Type: Poison
Modest Nature

• Hyper Voice
• Moonblast
• Haze
• Protect

these are the sets for rilla and prima btw

also I would honestly just go with max speed dragapult since it outspeeds some important things like scarf basc and other dragapult

[random wagon]

please dont use monotype teams seriously

if its for fun then sure but not for tours

you will almost 100% lose

[severe gull]

As long as i enjoy using the team then it doesnt really matter imo

[haughty crag]

https://pokepast.es/3bd1efaf48dc431c can someone give me tips for my rain team? How well does it synergise and what could be optimised?

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[pearl valley]

I’d replace hydreigon, you already have archaludon

[lavish nexus]

https://pokepast.es/edb350c93ef3b151
looking for a mon in 6th slot, something that doesn't have an ability that activates on switch in and helps against tr

[ripe turret]

yeah I would replace hydreigon here, something like pop bomb maus could be nice to proc stamina and also provide redirection

[lavish nexus]

replace the incin tera since you're running cloak anyways

also pollen puff over sludge bomb since you have no spa investment in amoonguss

[tribal void]

https://pokepast.es/b3b1c205732cc3de posting this again cause the first time didn't get any responses. Anything I could change or improve on? I've been enjoying using this team for a while

[ripe turret]

looks pretty good overall, just a couple things

I don't think you need tera ghost on rillaboom because it's already so fast, poison gives similar resistances while also being better defensively in general

sash and tera stellar on sneasler look like the superior choice to what you have, flying is really only used in conjunction with acrobatics and sash just provides more value in general than white herb imo

everything else is great

[flint pewter]

You run orb caly-s to be able to protect,you chose 4 atacks you could try doing Astral barrage,e force,nasty plot,protect.
Why ceasless edge on smeargle?
Why is Chi yu tera dark,why is caly-s tera ghost,why is smeargle tera normal?
Neither band or AV are corect here,go mystic water or scarf and remove drain punch in favor of cloae combat.You whould try covert cloak on Chi yu.Dont do hex on Chi yu replace it with dark pulse.Overall maybe a 4-5/10

[flint pewter]

Do lide orb instead

[reef bough]

https://pokepast.es/05f148fa91346510

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[reef bough]

Do I explain

I wanna explain

Ok so

Kingambit was the dmg dealer I wanted to focus on, Indeedee F to stop Fake out, provide redirection that isnt blocked by Safety Goggles, Hatterene abusing the Terrain and secondary TR Setter, if Kingambit dies I can go into Ursa-B to clean up, I can abuse snow when the opponent’s team doesn’t have any form of Weather Control, with Belly Drum Left Overs Slush Rush Cetitan, I was contemplating on Abomasnow or Alola 9Tales as a Snow setter, but I picked Aboma since I already have Fairy coverage and the bulk really helps to survive Gholdengo

[mighty otter]

alright

[lavish nexus]

https://pokepast.es/e927e77d352e23eb
I've sent this before but I've edited a few things so any opinions?

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[reef bough]

This is just a me thing and don’t follow me-

If youre using Loaded Dice for Pop.Bomb or Bullet Seed (which is redundant) just use Wide Lens

• Technician (if you use pop bomb/bullet seed on Archa) does more damage to it which isnt great

Zoroark-H with illusion and locking into Specs is weird, and makes it obvious/see through

• Hyper Voice doesnt hit Ghost
• Psychic Coverage is nothing

Archaludon is on a weird speed ev set but I don’t know stuff about that, max speed ev can abuse tw rain

• Hard way to kill bulky Grass types (Amoonguss, Rillaboom)

Basculegion doesn’t have Wave Crash?

None of your pokemon benefit from tr, its just there to be imprisoned? Farigiraf dying is dying to a htr team ( I think )

Pelipper - this is an opinion but I use Damp Rock, but you do you because theres alot of Weather War going on and survivability is fine

• you have no fake out

[lavish nexus]

bullet seed is resisted by archalu so technician doesn't matter, also loaded dice would still be better

all zoroark are easy to see through after one turn?
hyper voice is still its best spread option
psychic can ohko seed sneasler, also what else would it even run

archalu is 1 speed higher than mouse
icy wind is on the team for a reason

wave crash is fair enough

farig is there to imprison, reverse tr, and mix with zoro extremely well

extended weather doesn't matter much compared to being able to reactivate weather after it gets cancelled out, which sash helps to do

there's no good fake out mons that synergise well

[ripe turret]

there are definitely some probs here

idk why you have so much offensive investment in arch, it needs to be able to take hits if you’re running a stamina vest set

maushold being super slow is really weird - do you even outspeed your own arch? also bullet seed is super redundant here, it doesn’t do anything outside of activating stamina which pop bomb does better anyways, so yes switch to wide lens (it also procs more hits with pop bomb generally)

no weather ball on pelipper? also don’t think ghost tera is needed since you have protect

definitely wave crash over waterfall on basc

[misty tapir]

I'll post my pokepaste again since the first one isn't getting any responses https://pokepast.es/fee5c435de1d2cd4

[lavish nexus]

aight that's pretty fair, what would maushold be wanting to outspeed tho?

[flat eagle]

1. Good idea.
2. So it has a useful attacking move if it gets damaged. Thinking about Pollen Puff instead.
3. a) forgot to change to fire (although a defensive Tera would also be acceptable), b) for the same reason Kyogre is Tera Water, since Cal-S is my main secondary attacker. c) forgot to change to Tera Grass. In both "I forgot to change Tera types" cases, it doesn't matter, because Kyogre is the one Tera'ing in all games.
4. went with Mystic Water on Urshifu. and it already HAS CC. Went with Aqua Jet instead of Drain Punch. Hex was just a filler move on Chi-Yu anyway. Dark Pulse IS better (especially to get around the Wide Guards that annoy Kyogre and Cal-S).

[flat eagle]

Here's the updated team. https://pokepast.es/892295206abc3b4d. not winning as much, since leading with Tornadus doesn't seem as useful as Indeedee. No Follow Me or helping hand. Maybe save Torn for after Rain ends instead?

[ripe turret]

first and foremost your team has absolutely nothing for htr

AV chi-yu is also pretty bad along with suffering a lot from the rain, I understand the reasoning behind it but it kinda just doesn’t fit here

TR over protect on indeedee lets you have at least some sort of counterplay to HTR

protect>u-turn on urshifu, you’re not running scarf so you need to have protect

taunt>u-turn on torn gives you something else for TR

also your EVs are pretty crude but that can be fixed easily

[ripe turret]

personally I’d just run max speed, that way it beats out base 100s

[lavish nexus]

252 or 252+?

[flat eagle]

haven't seen anything survive the Tera Water Water Spout that can set up HTR (assuming that's Hard Trick Room). unless it's a specially bulky Indeedee-F.
I never bring Chi-Yu anyway. It's ALWAYS Kyogre, Cal-S, Indeedee, and either Urshifu or Tornadus.
I may do Protect/Taunt over U-Turn. Good ideas.

[ripe turret]

jolly

[ripe turret]

a tera water/dragon cir could, along with lunala, but yeah I guess that’s fair

and if you’re not bringing chi-yu then that’s probably a sign you should replace it

[flint pewter]

I would change AV and put detect or taunt on ursh,you could do imprison+Tr on indeedee.Idk why you have u turn on thornadus but change that.I saw that you always have almost the same leads which is bad since there are a lot of matchups to cover for

[chrome folio]

played showdown for years as a kid but never touched vgc until more recently, i usually play rain/trick room but i was just messing around and wondering if this core actually could work? ( the moves im running right now proly arent great and i know that, just not sure on what to run )

clefairy lead and procs armarouge and then armarouge brr

[ripe turret]

too much of a gimmick strategy, both mons are too slow and clefairy being slower than armarouge means that you won’t actually get to utilize the boost until the following turn

and yes as you mentioned your moves are suboptimal

[old kindle]

currently struggling against hybrid sun tr, specifically lilligant, torkoal, indeedee and armarouge, what would you guys recommend to help with that mu?
https://pokepast.es/db266e539250aef9
yes i know its dual weather and youre likely gonna tell me to just pick one or the other

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[old kindle]

primarina also is sort of an issue too if i dont bring archaludon

i think thats mainly the only gripes i have with this team, everything else looks fine, just i need to learn how to use gambit better as its the only mon i sort of struggle to use here

im also considering maybe a more offensive ttar set as it sort of just feels out of place on hyper offense and it feels more bulky offense to me

[pearl valley]

Archaludon doesnt really fit well here

[old kindle]

its sorta just slapped on there because its one of the main mons i wanted to use in reg h

and helps me deal with the water types that the rest of team struggle with

since itll take advantage of the rain from rain teams

[pearl valley]

also sand breaks whimsicotts sash, corviknight is better

[old kindle]

yeah i know

i dont usually use sand all the time with whim

and if i do its before sand is set up

since priority tailwind is high up on my priority list of wants

[pearl valley]

But that would make 3 steels on your team so i think kingambit and arch could be replaced

sorry, 4

you could also use psyspam with indeedee male and sneasler

[old kindle]

eh not a big fan of psyspam ngl

anyway i just need some help to sort of figure out something vs hybrid sun tr teams

[pearl valley]

gholdengo

its immune to lilligant sleep powder

[old kindle]

but the torkoal after you eruption will mess it up

[pearl valley]

Tera water

oh yeah can’t you swap in ttar

to overwrite sun

[old kindle]

lili will just close combat

and if i tera i lose the rock resist

and if i change the tera typing it can no longer safely deal with an excadrill eq

[pearl valley]

well on the other hand if you lead with gholdengo and switched into ttar

but yeah, dual weather teams kind of just aren’t that good

[old kindle]

im really confident in this, i feel like its just one small tweak needed to be a very solid team lol

but yeah ill just try to figure it out

was worth a shot to try to see what this chat thought

but yeah if anyone else here has an idea on how i can tweak my team to handle those hybrid sun tr teams please share

[gilded arch]

maybe taunt on whimsicott so lili cant after you?

also works agaisnt indeedee/hatterena tr

[pearl valley]

psychic terrain disables priority moves

that affect the target

[gilded arch]

oh yeah, forgot

as one (prankster + mold breaker) trust

[prisma olive]

still cant tho

[gilded arch]

andd i just remembered this is terrain and not armor tail

uhh as one (prankster + levitate)

[ripe turret]

still doesn’t work 😭

only if the opponent is a flying type/has levitate

[gilded arch]

this my first few messages and im already fumbling

[prisma olive]

loll

try as one (prankser + whatever surge)

[gilded arch]

depends if you're slower than indeedee

goofy team i made, really enjoyed using it tho

https://pokepast.es/87e72b3777056f91

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[gilded arch]

(believe in rain dance hoodra)

[rare hill]

Random thought can klefki work

oh nvm

I thought maybe prankster sandstorm could work

and light screen plus reflect

[midnight hamlet]

ngl I've been running calcs and sniper inteleon seems monstrous if you can get it guaranteed crits (of which there's a few ways, my current method is Dragon Cheer and a scope lens)

[lavish nexus]

a more defensive tera on kingambit would be good to resist fire

tbh you could prob run tera fire, resists hatterene gleam along with all the fire stuff

[midnight hamlet]

this is what I got for my inteleon team
-inteleon, obviously. Sniper-boosted crits from this thing hit crazy hard and will outright ohko other fast damage dealers like gholdengo. If it needs crits on something other than snipe shot, it can terastalize to dragon and get twice as much of a boost from dragon cheer
-dragapult is the resident dragon cheer provider. It outspeeds just about everything in the absense of boosts, and can also do spread damage with dragon darts or breach protect with phantom force
-kingdra acts as a slightly more versatile alternative to inteleon. It's more useful into certain bulky pokemon like primarina that inteleon struggles to handle with its moveset
-indeedee denies the opponent their priority moves, can boost or protect inteleon with helping hand and follow me, and can deny opposing trick rooms
-whimsicott is a priority tailwind setter and can provide disruption with encore. Moonblast and energy ball alongside considerable special attack investment mean it also can't be ignored by anything with a type weakness to it
-pelipper lets me mess with enemy weather teams, as sun is particularly bad for inteleon and kingdra, while boosting my own scalds and snipe shots. covert cloak makes it immune to fake out, and its movepool makes it capable of hitting hard under the rain. It also has tailwind to provide an alternative to whimsicott in case I need the fourth teammate slot for something else
https://pokepast.es/4c66c91ee8fd8176

both kingdra and inteleon are holding items that boost crit rate, so that dragon cheer will give them guaranteed crits (only applies to snipe shot for inteleon unless I use my tera)

[lavish nexus]

https://pokepast.es/2dbb2e8f23f1c8d1
i feel like i've changed enough to warrant another rate

[faint imp]

Hello rate my team im new to competitive im open to all new suggestions and ideas thanks

[misty tapir]

https://pokepast.es/fee5c435de1d2cd4 I know that there's a good Annihilape team out there but I wanted to try this too

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[pearl valley]

shadow claw is better on scarf annihilape sets

also that archaludon is very vulnerable to spore

[pearl valley]

Torandus is banned in regulation H, the current ruleset. If you want to play reg j, you can also add 2 restricted pokemon on your team

[pearl valley]

i think that archaludon would be better than dragapult here

also sniper is just bad

crits only happen 1/20 of the time

[ripe turret]

tera grass>flying on arch, better defensively and also makes you immune to spore/rage powder which is really important for it

tera ghost>dark on maus, you don’t need the prankster block as much because you can just nuke stuff with pop bomb should you get taunted, also is immune to fighting

pelipper needs hurricane and weather ball, you just can’t fit three utility moves on it, and also tera ghost/flying is better, ghost to avoid fake out and flying to boost hurricane and make it able to ohko amoonguss and some other things

as mentioned above shadow claw is better on scarf ape since you will likely be moving faster than most things and also don’t have a reliable way to proc rage fist

sinistcha should be changed to a support set

[mighty otter]

Somehow just got banned from a roblox exploiter discord server 😭🥀💔

[mighty otter]

im not good at competitive so i dont know

[ripe turret]

if this is for reg h you can’t use tornadus, if it’s for reg j you need two restricteds

[gilded arch]

does imprison trick room sinistcha usually work?

[ripe turret]

the point of the team is that with the right setup everything is a crit

but yeah it's too gimmicky imo

[pearl valley]

yeah, kingdra with swift swim is much better, it’ll just end up getting outsped by dragapult or garchomp, the problem with the team is that it doesn’t have the speed outside of inteleon and there isnt a lot of bulk

[midnight hamlet]

I'm using a combination of dragon cheer and critrate-boosting items/moves to give inteleon and kingdra guaranteed crits

if you stack 3 critrate boosts on a single pokemon, their attacks will always crit

you might still be right about dropping kingdra for archaludon though, because I need something that can better handle primarina, clefable, and other archaludon (especially assault vest sets)

I do have two sources of tailwind though, one of which is priority, so I'm not totally without the means to make kingdra fast even after forgoing swift swim

I definitely need more bulk though, which archaludon can probably address. This team is currently very specialized towards hyper-offense and just blowing holes in the enemy team as early as possible

I'm thinking an archaludon set with a razor claw so that I can keep the crits theme (plus I imagine crit electro shot or draco meteor does obscene damage)

bonus points is that if you always crit, the stat drop from draco meteor ceases to matter because you ignore your stat drops if you crit

so I can click draco as much as I want

is stalwart to guard against follow me a good idea or should I go with sturdy

[sleek laurel]

Can someone quote the full team

It feels very gimmicky but it’s probably optimizable to some extent

If you want to use Dragon Cheer then Archaludon is the best recipient probably

[midnight hamlet]

based on my first few test games dragon cheer archaludon (with a razor claw to get the crit boosts to +3) does a ton of damage

add on the fact that 2 of my pokemon (pelipper and indeedee) have helping hand, and there's pretty much nothing that survives a hit without considerable spdef investment

inteleon does well too though, he's less reliant on having rain set up and can do a bit of priority damage with vaccuum wave in a pinch

this is the team https://pokepast.es/cf6de7e2dd7d4f4d

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[sleek laurel]

I’ll state a few set changes when I’m home

[flat eagle]

https://pokepast.es/381bda64c4c0d46f

1. Kyogre Sets up Rain for Urshifu-RS and Ogerpon Wellspring. Biggest problem is the Life Orb. bad choice. Thinking about switching the Life Orb and Choice Specs.
2. Miradon Electric Terrain. Originally had Arceus as my other restricted and was there for anti-sleep. Parabolic charge is here for healing.
3. Ogerpon Wellspring I like powering up Ivy Cudgel with rain.
4. Annilihape is another fighting Pokemon. Probably the biggest one I could change. No particular reason for it here.
5. Iron Hands Wanted a future Paradox Pokemon, since I am using Miradon, and Iron Hands seems the best.
6. Urshifu RS Another Rain attacker.

Biggest problems I see is a severe lack of type diversity and limited defenses. This is a pure offense team. But there are like 3 water pokemon, 3 fighting pokemon, and 2 Electric Pokemon.

whoops. gave Miradon the totally wrong Choice item. Meant to be Specs, not Scarf.

Switched Choice SPECS from what meant to be Miradon to Kyogre and gave Miradon the Life Orb.

[pearl valley]

you don’t need waterpon

i dont think its that good here, considering you already have urshifu rapid

annihilape feels weird here

like you already have 2 fighting types

Kyogre is better with a grass tera because it just gets outsped by opposing miraidon and ohko’d immediately

[flat eagle]

actually thinking about replacing Annilihape with Indeedee-F (252 HP, 252 Def, 4 SpDef with a Psychic Seed; moves Hyper Voice, Helping Hand, Follow Me, and either Protect or Heal Pulse) so I can redirect Electro Drift and survive it (would be a 2HKO in that situation).
I wanted Ogerpon because I don't have a team that uses it, and I wanted to see how good it is. Figure Wellspring would have the best synergy with my team. Could go the default version and drop WH for Follow Me as well.

[pearl valley]

that overrwrites miraidon’s terrain

and the default version isnt that good

you could also replace annihilape with eseed farigiraf

[flat eagle]

I actually might have a better idea. might need some work on IVs, but I decided on a Pachirisu with Volt Absorb, 252 SpA, 252 Spd, and 4 HP (that's my default possible special attack spread) with Thunder (who cares about accuracy when it's 100% accurate in Kyogre's Rain), Volt Switch, Helping Hand, and Follow me, with a Covert Cloak (since Miradon's Electric Terrain prevents sleep).

maybe it's WAY too old, but if Gen 5 pokemon can win tournaments, why not a former World Champion?

[ripe turret]

because electabuzz is basically pachirisu but better in literally every way possible

[flat eagle]

except Electabuzz doesn't get either Lightning Rod or Volt Absorb. I wanted one of those so I could completely nullify most Miradon.

[ripe turret]

with follow me + a resist you basically wall it anyways

iron hands is enough of a check for it anyways though

and neither electabuzz nor pachirisu are very usable in reg j

if you want something similar to pachirisu go with raichu

it gets better supporting moves and has better stats

along with having the same ability

[pearl valley]

i actually might have an even better idea: farigiraf

[misty tapir]

Boosting

[sturdy pecan]

anyone have any good smeargle builds for doubles

for stat spreads

[jovial creek]

don't run band annihilape

there is should be sash or scarf

https://www.smogon.com/dex/sv/pokemon/

use this for evs too

[sturdy pecan]

thx

[misty tapir]

Oh, SCARF was speed. I mixed things up

[misty tapir]

Are you talking to me too with that one?

[jovial creek]

yeah

[sturdy pecan]

https://pokepast.es/85e09e552b956cc9 can smn help me make with this team like tell me if i should change builds or sets or if is houdl replace mons with different ones cuz i dont know much reg h but i wanna play it

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[lavish nexus]

smeargul should be tera ghost, still has unused EVs, and has take out despite indeedee

why have a tr mode when only one of your mons want to be in tr

most of your mons are very fragile

[flint pewter]

For what format is this?

[flint pewter]

Swap cerludges sash to clear amulet.That way smeargle can hold it.I would suggest wide guard,spore,fake out,follow me on smeargle.Bulk up is better than swords dance on ceruledge.(you could swap burning bulwark to spikey shield and keep it instead of one of the suggested moves since you woukd have a lack of protect otherwise)

[flat eagle]

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2025regj-2444235999 Resists don't matter. Passho Berry doesn't matter, Kyorge is a OHKO machine.

[old kindle]

decided to go back to rain and i feel like i did pretty decent with this, took me a bit to decide on ursa as the last piece to help with trick room alongside amoon while the rest can take care out of out of tr and gambit can w*rk in either given there's no psy terrain, maybe i should put in a rilla to help with that terrain control

https://pokepast.es/e6e89fe1c47f5144

[drifting onyx]

New [Gen 9] VGC RMT @random wagon, @broken shuttle, @sleek laurel, @wanton abyss, @jovial creek, @sonic apex. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

[faint imp]

I want to make it for vgc

[old kindle]

which format

we know it's vgc hence the thread it's in

if that's reg h then it's not legal due to torn

if that's reg j then it's bad because no restricteds

and just bad pokemon picks in general

[supple bear]

I’m still pretty new to vgc I’ve been trying out a few team comps like trick room bronzong dragalgea thst I’ve been liking but ive been working on this team comp and I like how it feels but I feel like it’s missing something any tips

https://pokepast.es/27aabe91d539800e

This is for reg h

[faint imp]

Lets do J

[flint pewter]

I know but i mean the reg,thats the format

[faint imp]

Reg j

[flint pewter]

Alright

[flint pewter]

The team is definetley not a reg j team

[flint pewter]

I reg j you can choose two restricted and are allowed to use mythicals in the restricted slots

[faint imp]

Is it reg h that has no legendary/mythicals then lol im new to vgc

[novel kelp]

If it's reg H you can't have Tornadus cause it's a legendary

The most common tailwind setter in reg H is Whimsicott so you could use him instead

[faint imp]

Oo ok and corvinite too right

[old kindle]

what type of team is it

also i do not recommend using arcanine

it sucks and it's hisuian form is better

but it's hisuian form doesn't get much usage either due to its water and ground 4x weakness and there already being another tire type intimidater

the only thing it has left pretty much is rock head rock smash

it's also weak to fighting

which is one of the most common types in this reg

coming from a bp arch or close combat sneasler or vacuum wave bm ursa

there's also tera fighting tera blast porygons

[novel kelp]

The team is not great but I think it's not that bad, after all I guess is one of his first VGC teams

In order to make cool shit, you first have to make shit

[flint pewter]

Yup,but tornadus is a kegendary

[flint pewter]

Corviknight is a normal pokemon

[royal kernel]

https://pokepast.es/1fc08e0aad8fa1c5
need some help on fixing this team
i really wanted to use rayquaza but it felt like he wasnt working as it should, and i am considering swapping him for like zacian-c or koraidon, or even another fast physical sweeper
idk if there is another thing that i should change in this team, any suggestions are welcome

[pearl valley]

rayquaza is bullshit, even wolfey made a video on how bad it is

[royal kernel]

i know, just wanted to try it

[sturdy pecan]

ol thx

[sturdy pecan]

tr is to reverse others and thx

[sturdy pecan]

https://pokepast.es/2f05e313e75f2e7b can smn tell me what mons to replace or any overall tips becauase i feell like im lacking coverage

[drifting onyx]

New [Gen 9] VGC RMT @random wagon, @broken shuttle, @sleek laurel, @wanton abyss, @jovial creek, @sonic apex. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

[royal kernel]

in my opinion i think lorb calyrex would be better, the main point of clear amulet is basically ignoring intimidate, and caly is a special sweeper

[sturdy pecan]

ok thx but thats all i need to fix?

[royal kernel]

personally i like running both of my restricteds as sweepers, one physically and the other special. but since u are running darkrai as ur 2nd restricted and it works as a "support" i think it would be great to have another instead of like chien pao

i love chien pao due to terrain control and how well it pairs with good physical sweepers, but it is extremely frail and without focus sash it is mostly likely to not even doing a good amount of damage

[sturdy pecan]

i cant pick who to give sash calyrex shadow chienp or dakrai

[royal kernel]

honestly i have never even thought about setting up a strat like yours so maybe everything that i said might be bs

[sturdy pecan]

oh

[royal kernel]

id stick with sash darkrai

[sturdy pecan]

yea cuz i need 1 get. 1 dark void

off

Atleast

[royal kernel]

and change chienpao for a bulky physical sweeper

[sturdy pecan]

alr

imam lf good options

[royal kernel]

maybe urshi idk

or ursaluna since u have trick room

[supple bear]

I’m still pretty new to vgc I’ve been trying out a few team comps like trick room bronzong dragalgea thst I’ve been liking but ive been working on this team comp and I like how it feels but I feel like it’s missing something any tips
https://pokepast.es/27aabe91d539800e
This is for reg h

[sturdy pecan]

i use that to reset theirs

[royal kernel]

fair

[sturdy pecan]

use sitrus bery or smth else over safety gogl on amongus

run sash on whimsi

run safety goggl eon icnin

run tera water or dark on amoongus

and id say use moonblast on whimsci but dazzling gleam good

remove close combat on incin for parting shot

[supple bear]

focus sash?

[sturdy pecan]

yea

[supple bear]

why googles instead of assult vest?

[sturdy pecan]

cuz incin likes status moves

and prevents it beiing spored

and also but some ev spreads on u rmons

[supple bear]

wdym

[sturdy pecan]

like 252 attack

and stuff like that

like rthese things

[supple bear]

yeah

my stuff should be iv spreed

does it not show it

oh

[sturdy pecan]

Evs

[supple bear]

thats what i mean

my bad

idk why it doesnt show it

[sturdy pecan]

oh

[lavish night]

i actually have a sand dual screens balance team if you want it

[lavish nexus]

more defensive set on incin, add in u turn, most likely over close combat

safety goggles do literally nothing on amoonguss

milotic doesn't do really anything

drop surf on ttar and use rock slide

don't run cloak if you ready have protect

if you need water spread, just drop milotic for primarina

[supple bear]

what should i put on amonguss instead

[supple bear]

icl bro

thank u so much

this team feels so much better

[reef bough]

@round nexus

here!

[round nexus]

Ty

https://pokepast.es/f74a954b561abd45 how can I improve this team?

[drifting onyx]

New [Gen 9] VGC RMT @random wagon, @broken shuttle, @sleek laurel, @wanton abyss, @jovial creek, @sonic apex. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

[reef bough]

Here is the finalized version of my original team! Let me know what you think yalll!!!

https://pokepast.es/18f5b8f08005a3b3

(I considered all the major problems and fixed them, only leaving minor problems as every team always has issues in some way)

Cetitan is my main snow sweeper and wincon, with Slush Rush, I double my Speed in snow, and behind Aurora Veil I can safely Bd to max my atk. I also use Ice Shard to pick off weakened foes, and I can Tera Water to cover Fire moves

Ninetales alola is my main enabler. With Snow Warning I automatically set snow, which boosts my Ice-types’ def, and I use Aurora Veil to cut incoming damage for the whole team. Safety Goggles let me ignore Amoonguss, and I carry Snowscape as a backup if weather control gets flipped (if it is already on the field)

Comfey is my fast support. Thanks to Triage, I always heal my partners first, I use Encore to punish setup or Protect, Helping Hand to boost my sweepers, and Tailwind to control speed. My Focus Sash makes sure I get at least one turn of support

Rillaboom is my terrain setter and bulky pivot. With Grassy Surge I weaken Earthquakes and give recovery, while Fake Out gives me tempo control. Tera Poison also protects me from Fairy and Fighting threats

Farigiraf is my disruption piece. With Armor Tail I block priority like Fake Out, and with Imprison + Trick Room I shut down opposing Trick Room modes. Hyper Voice lets me deal spread damage, and Throat Spray boosts my Special Attack to keep me threatening.

Baxcalibur is my secondary snow win condition. With Clear Amulet I ignore Intimidate, and with earthquake I deal consistent damage through steel and fire, Snowscape lets me reset weather if needed, and Protect buys me time. Tera Fairy patches my Dragon and Dark weaknesses so I can stick around longer.

HOLY TEXT WALL

[round nexus]

https://pokepast.es/0fab8e3387b36489
https://pokepast.es/1ce69636e08cf785

[faint imp]

Yes ik i was talking abt the tail wind setters

[ripe turret]

first one looks mostly fine, I would run AV hands and change a few teras but other than that looks good

same thing with the second one, just change a few teras and a couple moves

I’ll go into more detail when I have time

[round nexus]

I have actually updated these

1 sec

@ripe turret https://pokepast.es/bc12b6e3ff02fe03https://pokepast.es/1feed41f3627cd46

Mb

https://pokepast.es/bc12b6e3ff02fe03
https://pokepast.es/1feed41f3627cd46

There

[drifting onyx]

New [Gen 9] VGC RMT @random wagon, @broken shuttle, @sleek laurel, @wanton abyss, @jovial creek, @sonic apex. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

[old kindle]

oh lol, its a bit late for that anyway, ive moved on from that team

[mighty otter]

Rate team for gholdengo

https://pokepast.es/6d0c8a3ff061f137

[paper fractal]

any recomendations for my last mon?:https://pokepast.es/c3e99b1dd5bab7a9

[reef bough]

Repost

https://pokepast.es/18f5b8f08005a3b3

[drifting onyx]

New [Gen 9] VGC RMT @random wagon, @broken shuttle, @sleek laurel, @wanton abyss, @jovial creek, @sonic apex. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

[modest dune]

I don't think you should run baxcalibur with earthquake while also running rillaboom (rillaboom weakens Earthquake via ability) use high horsepower instead
also snowscape isn't really helping you out on baxcalibur either and you should probably run either swords dance, icicle crash or dragon dance (and frankly you may be better off ditching it for encore on a9 also) I'd recommend cutting down by 1 ice type since you only really need 2 on snow (you can either choose to focus on bulky cetitant or bax, bax has an ability that heals it in snow ftr)

Also you should probably get an incineroar or something so you dont die to gholdengo bc there's no way u ever beat gholdengo with this

[outer marsh]

This is the first VGC team I've built since the IoA and I'm not too confident in it. Please tell me about any adjustments I should make to it. (Also two of the mons don't have any EVs yet)
https://pokepast.es/4fe115223abbf07f

[drifting onyx]

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[pearl valley]

i think snowscape is for when other weather setters swap in

but that’s very bo1

[modest dune]

Yea that's obvious but it's a worse way to deal with it than say having encore

Bc you're not always counter weather

If they had Glaceon who immediately benefits from snow it would be more worth it

(bax and cetitan typically need some kind of set up, blizzard spammers like Glaceon can immediately blizzard)

[reef bough]

I can change cetitan to incinerowr for gihldongeo and bax to glaceon if that makes my situation any better

[sturdy pecan]

https://pokepast.es/c6532dc4b09fd9f3 can smn help me with team

[drifting onyx]

New [Gen 9] VGC RMT @random wagon, @broken shuttle, @sleek laurel, @wanton abyss, @jovial creek, @sonic apex. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

[grizzled prism]

I had to swap scream tail because it was banned in this format

Anyway this is sound based team

I just realized I forgot to EV goth

Woops

How do I do this?

https://psim.us/t/1296313

[pearl valley]

https://pokepast.es/beb1e8f1d8feb880

[old kindle]

did i cook?
https://pokepast.es/e4511f3d38304b49

[pearl valley]

why brave ursa with no tr

[old kindle]

just in case i come up agianst tr, but yeah i was considering a fast ursa too to deal with min speed ursas

[mighty otter]

https://pokepast.es/3d64b2892d73bd9c can I get a team rating?

[drifting onyx]

New [Gen 9] VGC RMT @random wagon, @broken shuttle, @sleek laurel, @wanton abyss, @jovial creek, @sonic apex. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

[pearl valley]

literally what i said to the other person

but in this case i think ursa bloodmoon is better here

[ripe turret]

^ agree with this, also is tera flying on talon and steel on ghold for a certain calc?

if not then I would definitely go with a defensive tera on ghold (water, fairy, dragon)

and ghost on talon to avoid espeed/fake out breaking gale wings

also I don't think you need no speed on ursaluna (or its counterpart if you do decide to run it) because you don't have a TR mode but rather a TW one

and speedy ursa is actually very threatening in tailwind

no matter which variant you end up using

[ripe turret]

looks good, only things I would suggest are giving ursa some speed (as mentioned above) and running earthquake over sub, but you can definitely keep sub

also dragon pulse over draco because with stamina sets you want to be staying on the field

so you feel the drops more

on arch

[ripe turret]

the EVs on rilla and volc look a little sus

but other than that it looks good

also 16 is not a benchmark for electabuzz

you can just shift 4 of that into spatk

[ripe turret]

looks good

I would run protect over u-turn on lando

I also think investing a little bulk goes a long way

there's a certain benchmark you can hit to live scarf tera water surging after terastallizing

but you can definitely keep the max/max

I also think a different tera on arceus is better

like ghost/fire for example

[mellow monolith]

https://pokepast.es/ec4b35c761fe8f09

am i headed in the right direction chat

[sturdy pecan]

ok ty

[sturdy pecan]

into lando right

[sturdy pecan]

ok thx

[mighty otter]

you mean what you said to min?

[old kindle]

i see, makes sense, i was sorta thinking i would use draco as like a get out of jail card and id still have bp in case i still need to do damage, but yeah ill definitely look into these

anyway neapolean or rain is like just setting the nature to adamant fine for the speed for ursa or how many evs should i put in or like would it be better to give it like a jolly nature, still haven't looked around vgcpastes for a fast ursa spread which i'll likely be doin later today

[ripe turret]

yup

[ripe turret]

Ursaluna-Bloodmoon @ Life Orb
Level: 50
Ability: Mind's Eye
EVs: 44 HP / 4 Def / 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 204 Spe
IVs: 0 Atk
Tera Type: Normal
Modest Nature

• Blood Moon
• Hyper Voice
• Earth Power
• Protect

this is the set

it’s designed to outspeed adamant dragapult in tailwind

[old kindle]

oh blood moon ursa

[ripe turret]

so yeah really really fast

oh yeah

[old kindle]

i already have a lorb user

which is why i ended up going phys ursa

[ripe turret]

oh ok

[old kindle]

plus i already have majority special attackers

[ripe turret]

smogon doesn’t have a set for fast normal ursa apparently

[old kindle]

yeah

that's why i need to go dig through vgcpastes

[ripe turret]

oh wait that’s a different team

wait yeah keep normal ursa there

oops

[old kindle]

lol

[ripe turret]

I think a similar amount of investment should still allow it to outspeed adamant dragapult though

because their speed tiers are similar

[old kindle]

hmm i mean is draga an issue tho?

it's not like i can hit it to kill it when i outspeed

since ursa doesn't have scrappy

unless i decide to go an ice punch set

or something like that

[ripe turret]

it is so incredibly fragile that headlong rush with guts will do the trick

[old kindle]

oh

lol

[ripe turret]

normal headlong rush might even do it lmao

but don’t quote me on that

[old kindle]

i'd calc but

calc on phone is abysmal

[ripe turret]

I don’t have the calc rn

yeah LMAO

[old kindle]

and it sucks that the calc doesn't have reg h sets at all

but yeah honestly do i just maybe put eq on

i mean sub is really nice tho

i block intim and stuff

but i die hella quickly now that i lost 25%

god forbid i go up against a primarina

[old kindle]

but then again i have gambit on the team

just the threat of it in the back or having it next to ursa would be enough to block it

[ripe turret]

idk

it’s really up to you tbh

because you have some earthquake weak mons

but also peli

so

[old kindle]

some lol like 75% of my team is weak to ground

but i mean yeah i have peli

tera bug archalu with stamina

and stuff

[ripe turret]

tbh I wouldn’t go like

super fast ursa

because your tailwind is kinda inconsistent

but at least enough to outspeed base incin or smth

[lavish trellis]

https://pokepast.es/7baabb0161d7f163
Help me with this team, is there anything I should tweak or change some mons entirely?

[drifting onyx]

New [Gen 9] VGC RMT @random wagon, @broken shuttle, @sleek laurel, @wanton abyss, @jovial creek, @sonic apex. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

[old kindle]

yeah sounds pretty reasonable

[fierce flame]

https://pokepast.es/c7d7c72add267aed

It's an attempt at a balance team

I was wondering if I could maybe replace Volcarona with Choice Scarf Basculegion and use Cloak twater Atales over sash

[rare hill]

https://pokepast.es/077de2efd750a73d

this is a team I made with my favorite mon pawmot

It has a soft rain core that can help with amoonguss and gholdengo and benefits the physical sweeper : palafin

farig is there to shut down trick room teams or to set up trick room if the opponent is a bit too annoying

I used the volt absorb tera electric double shock and fake out pressure pawmot without thunder punch life orb iron fist or the meme that is revival blessing since I don't see how it can benefit the team

not going to be responding right now since I gtg sleep

[celest cloak]

https://pokepast.es/d93c5bf82b4efa0a
Hello Guys this is my first ever Team and I am curious what kind of things i could improve (I put Gothitelle and Flutter Mane in bc i didnt know what else to put)

[old kindle]

https://pokepast.es/bf4d87531022bc2b

yeah, here we go, just gave it enough speed to outspeed base incin and also incins with minor speed investment to get the jump on other incins in fake out wars

wait the smogon set is 84 speed evs, so i'd have to put more into speed on ursa to get that

to outspeed those

i don't think anyone runs base speed incin in reg h tho

[ripe turret]

yeah I meant like the normal incin set lol

[old kindle]

yeah might have to rock jolly

here we go

oh wait i can save evs with that nature

now that outspeeds base incin and those with a bit extra speed investment

[unborn pier]

How would y’all use this team? https://pokepast.es/ba91b0aa57470f98

I’ve been using it super aggressively, final gambit their setters or sweepers depending on if I could ohko or not with dragonite or kingambit and then I always have dongiri for my backups… I just never see a reason to use clefable and I’m feeling like I’m playing it wrong

[robust wasp]

https://pokepast.es/9bf532bb58c64f0d

this is my dou team, and its worked pretty well. i want to use it in vgc but i know its different there. what can i change about this team to make it usable in vgc and keep the same rough idea (tr team)?

[drifting onyx]

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[pearl valley]

walking wake isnt legal n reg h

[robust wasp]

bro did you even read what i said

[strange slate]

https://pokepast.es/b53467dc5f226256

heres my team so far

i wanna know if what i got so far is good, and what else to add

reg J

[pearl valley]

you shouldve checked the regulation

[sturdy pecan]

run trick rooom on lunala

and add some good tr mons

liek caly ice

or ursaluna

[strange slate]

but Tox does better in Tailwind, same with zapdos and ive now added Palkia origin

[sturdy pecan]

true but the thing is lunala is lowk a slower mon

but sure

[frigid dome]

Hi

[rare hill]

sorry for saying again just woke up

[ripe turret]

protect>ice beam on pelipper helps it keep its sash intact, also go max speed timid/modest because you have the sash

helping hand>dazzling gleam on farig, dgleam does like no damage anyways and also invest a lot more into its bulk

gholdengo needs a lot more bulk since it's a setup set

not a big fan of band palafin, I'd go with mystic water and protect over flip turn

also I would change the item on farig

probably goggles

[rare hill]

alright thanks

[frigid dome]

Hi

https://pokepast.es/e1e27bc6af83f2a0

[drifting onyx]

New [Gen 9] VGC RMT @random wagon, @broken shuttle, @sleek laurel, @wanton abyss, @jovial creek, @sonic apex. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

[analog nest]

Reg H team

What do y’all think?

[stoic silo]

What is zen headbutt for? Change it to Tri attack. Other than that, I can’t rate this team

[fierce flame]

The thing is

This team obviously wants to be fast

But you're running trickroom

So P2 doesn't do much

I'd suggest replacing Garchomp with normal Ursaluna, using lorb Gholdengo, replace Amoonguss and P2 with Sinistcha and maybe Sneasler

And redo all the EVs, use this for reference
https://www.smogon.com/dex/sv/formats/vgc/

[twilit pawn]

Ok so 2 iterations of my reg j team
current: https://pokepast.es/94d09e78f3de4af3
previous: https://pokepast.es/7d84f6f83bc5892e

What Works:

• Miraidon Counter
  Miraidon is answered by rillaboom or iron valiant + urshifu. Rillaboom has high horsepower or special attack iron valiant with moonblast, and Urshifu can tera ground tera blast. it leads to a really mean situation where if I read that they lead myridon, I tera ground my urshifu and double while their electro drift or volt switch fails into Da Bear. I also have poison jab on urshifu + tera steel tera blast on valiant for tera fairy miraidon, tho I may need a better answer bc urshifu doesn't really outspeed or survive dazzling gleam, and tera steel tera blast usually doesn't take.

• Hoenn Restricteds:
  I have good answers for kyogre and Groudon in tera water rilla, as well as thunderbolt on valiant for kyogre specifically.

• Honse:
  The horses are less consistent, but usually manageable. Darkrai survives a ghost horse attack with sash and usually one shots, and the sableye pair with Darkrai usually makes ice horse no problem as long as they don't get a trick room off.

Sableye Rules:

• The Gimmick:
  The piece de resistance of course is the sableye and Darkrai duo. Tera ghost Darkrai bullies people trying to fake it out or hit it with a fighting move. First turn is either prankster gravity + dark void, or priority disable + protect then gravity dark void if they have a wide guard user. Gravity makes dark void ~83% accurate if I'm doing my math right. So not the most consistent, but consistent enough. Then helping hand tera ghost hex on a sleeping target does obscene damage to pretty much everything.

• Bridge, Zamazenta, Incin, Misc:
  Focus Blast absolutely shreds all anything with a fighting weakness (and plenty of things without). Gravity makes the bad accuracy a non-issue, and helping hand max sp atk val focus blast can even one-shot tanky Ursulunas

Bad Matchups:

• Amogus
  Currently the only one threatening super effective damage on amoongus is deoxys with psycho boost (previously ghost horse with psyshock). Having my only answer to a very common supporter with redirection moves having the same staying power as a tissue in a hurricane is not good.

• Rillaboom:
  I have poison jab on urshifu and deoxys. Urshifu is weak to rillaboom both in and out of tera. Deoxys is too frail to survive not oneshotting anything.

• Anything fairy type
  From what I've found in play, poison jab on a pokemon weak to fairy, poison jab on a very frail pokemon (seriously, ive seen fake out do half), and one base 80 power steel move that requires committing my tera is not sufficient. I can theoretically handle most of the common fairies due to dual typing, but tera fairy destroys me.

The Weak Link
So, deoxys is obviously the problem here, and it needs to be replaced with a different restricted. It turns to dust if you so much as look in its direction, and I don't think even a better moveset than what I have on it could make it work. I'm considering shaymin sky, because air slash is super effective against 2 of my biggest problems + has massive crit chance, but idk.

TLDR
Teams at top. Deoxys gotta go. I'd ideally like to keep my darkrai + sableye pair, and iron valiant has actually been working rly well so I'm not worried Abt it not being super meta, but yeah deoxys is very much the weakest link.

EDIT: I have tools for calyrex shadow, but it can be a tough one

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[twilit pawn]

ugh, shaymin sky doesn't have a fairy answer tho

[unborn pier]

https://pokepast.es/90956c478a838cef can I get some thoughts on this team I made? Reg h

[ripe turret]

looks good

I would run the bulkier set on dnite

but everything else looks ok

[unborn pier]

What’s the bulkier set?

[tiny cairn]

https://pokepast.es/24d8003f2ecc2ea9 is this anything

i want ninetails for the damage mitigation with aurora veil but i also want wide guard for my typhlosion matchup and so i wanted to get wide guard, but i didnt know what else to use other than pelipper

should i use a hitmontop to help with the fast pacing of the team or nahhh

im not sure, cuz i really need that wide guard but i also want reidrection yk, also i forgot to change sneasler to tera flying

i kinda want to get a clefairy but idk what id replace with it

[lunar plover]

Is Reg J the current one?

[unborn pier]

Yeah till September 30 I believe

[pearl valley]

and reg h

[pearl valley]

chesnaught isn’t good at all

you aleady got sneasler

[tiny cairn]

i want wide guard and i don't want pelipper

[pearl valley]

then use armarouge or something

and its not that big of a deal

[sturdy pecan]

well add flash cannon into ghodlengo

[sturdy pecan]

run multiscale on draognite

[pearl valley]

uh no

make it rain is just better

hits both targets 120 bp

[sturdy pecan]

wait mb notflash cannon

wrong move

nasry plot

mb

i was thinking of the wrong one

[heavy bay]

https://pokepast.es/92aea78a52b884cb
Team feels really good but idk if its just me but I lose alot to TR teams maybe I should use a different restricted besides zekrom

[drifting onyx]

New [Gen 9] VGC RMT @random wagon, @sleek laurel, @wanton abyss, @jovial creek, @sonic apex. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

[pearl valley]

this team feels very gimmicky with serperior and mew

[supple bear]

https://pokepast.es/cf6852a55aacf489
im working on a pretty unique reg h team and would love some advice for some mons that could compliment this team

[heavy bay]

it def is but serperior has been doing a lot with contrary and for some reason people auto taunt mew

[heavy bay]

is there a replacement grass pledge user that would be better?

[pearl valley]

just dont use it

you should use urshifu over sneasler

[heavy bay]

b-b-but the speed control :(

[grizzled prism]

...trevenant?

[supple bear]

https://pokepast.es/3f44cd52986f621b

this is my updated list

yes

trevenant

hes the goat

[grizzled prism]

Uhh primarina on a sun team?

I know primarina is the goat but that seems like a bad idea

[supple bear]

i was kinda using it for type coverage tbh

would there be a better mon to use

ik my team is VERY unordinary

but the more hlep the better

[grizzled prism]

Walking Wake is the only way to get water coverage on sun that I can think of

Cause water moves get %50 weaker in the sun

[supple bear]

is walking wake reg h tho?

[grizzled prism]

Oh right they ain't

[supple bear]

😭

[grizzled prism]

Sooo unless I'm missing something water isn't gonna work for sun

[supple bear]

would could i change it for then

[grizzled prism]

Grass however has 2/3 types that water covers

[lavish night]

k

[supple bear]

could i maybe add an electric type to this team?

you think that would be a good idea

[grizzled prism]

I mean you could but I'd use the weather a little more to your advantage

[lavish night]

where did this idea come from unless this is draft

😭

[supple bear]

this is not draft

this is

trevenants a goat

and im a goat

[grizzled prism]

Harvest

[supple bear]

so we gonna goat it out

[lavish night]

no bro

[supple bear]

[lavish night]

you are not wolfe

ok anyways

[supple bear]

i never said i was wolfe

im just said

ima goat

[grizzled prism]

Although if you're using a harvest strategy I'd use someone more bulky

[supple bear]

[supple bear]

wdym

is there any other pokemon with harvest

[grizzled prism]

Plenty

[supple bear]

there are

BUT MAN

they boring

we running tropius harvest

💀

[grizzled prism]

Uhh, executor could work best? It has the best bulk I see

[lavish night]

I recommend you don't use trevenant on a sun team, unless you're planning on using a 2-2-2 set, with indeedee sneasler or rillaboom sneasler and changing primarina or oranguru which is (optional)

[grizzled prism]

Actually no, Arbolvia

[lavish night]

secondly

wt

arboliva might actually be the goat

[supple bear]

okay so heres my reasoning

i wanna use instruct

[lavish night]

he has a weakness to 6 common things in the format

[supple bear]

and to double erupotion

and i also wanna cringe tf outa people by using forest curse

on thier big scary mon

and then erupting tf on them

[lavish night]

just not possible

sitrus berry set

[supple bear]

😭

[lavish night]

secondly, I'd optimize the 252 atk to bulk

and make it brave nature

this man is a tera hog

[grizzled prism]

Trevenant isn't gonna survive long enough sad 😪

[lavish night]

the worst typing in vgc doubles

ghost grass

god

[supple bear]

😭

man

like

hes such a goat tho

look at him

[lavish night]

atleast brambleghast has some resistances

yea he does look cold

ngl

[supple bear]

so u dont think trevenat will work

[lavish night]

he can

[supple bear]

should i just give it a wrap

and call it ggs

[lavish night]

no

we have to wait for the intellectuals

[supple bear]

LMAOO

[lavish night]

dw

[supple bear]

someone summon the intellectuals

[lavish night]

they'll look at this

[grizzled prism]

Trevenant COULD work, just not like this 💔

[lavish night]

at around erm

1 am

[lavish night]

real

[supple bear]

💀

[supple bear]

man i just wanna forest curse thier scary mon

then stare them in the eyes

and bust on them

with eruption

and watch as they cry

[lavish night]

they ignore them the whole game while absolutely making the second pokemon on your team cope

[grizzled prism]

What if they don't have full hp each?

Or tr isn't up

[supple bear]

then ggs

💀

we go next

[lavish night]

trvenenant sets up surprise TR

but he could get surprised OHKO'd into mirror matches

indeedee sneasler

talonflame gholdengo

[grizzled prism]

I'd have a follow me user

[supple bear]

okay so i haev an after me

and instruct

[grizzled prism]

Like your own indeedee

[supple bear]

and a

[lavish night]

even first impression seems scary 💀

(nah im exaggerating it)

yea

[supple bear]

okay so

[lavish night]

I'll make a team

[supple bear]

how does one build indeedee again

[lavish night]

I just need your main hard TR

[supple bear]

i havent used her in a HOT minute

[lavish night]

idea

in this comp you want to opt for a more balanced set

with a defensive nature

[grizzled prism]

Follow me helping hand are the best support moves on em