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[spiral fable]

also i would run rocks over wave on shocks

none

well probably some weird ass prankster mon but

the only way to get priority on removal is defog with prankster which like why

[livid glade]

The thing is

I'd use tusk but my team already struggles from special attackers like valiant and zapdos

And setup sweepers

The team also struggles from stealth rock because I have 2 Ice types

[spiral fable]

decidueye is not helping with that

[livid glade]

Helps with lead samurott and gholdengo I can say that

[spiral fable]

tusk would do better

moltres can handle most variants of val

ideally for zap shocks but thats not really too reliable

[livid glade]

Thunderbolt iron valiant is slowly getting more common probably specifically for molt

I'm gonna run -spe Molt so I can ohko with brave bird

Never running hurricane after missing 6 hurricanes in a row against a setup drayapylt

Idk if u can see this

[spiral fable]

then just run

higher spdef and hp?

like i said your evs are really wack

the two moltres sets either run 248 hp and def or spdef

[livid glade]

Like I said I want a balance of the 2 defenses and I put attack investment to ohko a valiant with brave bird

[spiral fable]

splitting defenses just means you get chipped down easier

[livid glade]

Alright

Do you think specs walking wake runs surf or hydro pump more

Or steam

[spiral fable]

iirc the set is steam pulse draco and pump with switches for flamethrower

though you dont really need flamethrower the steels and fairies that resist dragon melt to water and vice versa

[vocal grotto]

https://pokepast.es/9811297b46571372
i need an opinion
Edit: dondozo is tera ground. ( I change that )

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[spiral fable]

av dozo is going to be able to switch in like twice and then die

its not very good

[vocal grotto]

how could i solve it? my gamestyle is to predict and hit on the switches, since I don't have many safe switches, I have to not overextend, eliminate common threats FAST, set up hazards and sweep with roaring moon

[spiral fable]

run lefties/boots dozo

gives it actual survivability

[vocal grotto]

ok, i'll try. I have a question, do I leave it with the same Evs spreads? And additionally, is the rest of the team okay in your opinion?

[spiral fable]

no run full bulk with either spdef or def investment up to you

rest of the team is aight but it kinda gets folded by val

[forest magnet]

if thats your playstyle, then get walls with things like volt switch and u-turn

[vocal grotto]

I keep it in mind

[forest magnet]

lmao don't keep it in your mind

change some things

make the team better

lemme see what i can do rq

[vocal grotto]

I know, i knooow
Ahdkajd

I try to hit ladder

[forest magnet]

well your team is really weak to fairy moves

• so many of the same type attackers

imma have to cut one of them

[vocal grotto]

Sure

[forest magnet]

https://pokepast.es/b0f7822417e01956

your team is kinda all over the place

i fixed up some things for defence and also swapped some mons out

[vocal grotto]

Oohh lemme see (and try it)

[sweet coyote]

https://pokepast.es/feeacb49b1ba8952 Current OLT team but new to the meta

[forest magnet]

make glowking pivot

swap smack down for grass knot on lando

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[hasty dune]

Heya! Was wondering what I could do to give my team a better chance against super bulky mons like Toxapex

I feel like I struggle against them heavily

Gen9OU https://pokepast.es/aacefd5961964aca

I tried running psyshock on Iron Valiant, but it doesn’t really do much damage to Toxapex and it can shake it off and toxic stall

I was also wondering if I should replace Sneasler for a more bulky pivot, as I often have trouble getting my damage dealers in without forcing them to take chip damage.

[forest magnet]

swap hatt for somthing else

[forest magnet]

well i would just say run a slowking galar pivot

good counter to toxa

[hasty dune]

Alrighty

[forest magnet]

swap for amoogn

[hasty dune]

Would my team still struggle against Gargnacle or no?

I used amoonguss a lot for pokemon like that

But I also have Greninja so probably not actually

[hasty dune]

What moves should I run? The Smogon page shows a lot of potential moves.

Is future sight worth it, or should I go psychic?

[forest magnet]

?

slowking counters most garg

[hasty dune]

Ahh okay

[fallen shale]

how does slowking counter garganacl

it's eq weak and probably lacks the immediate damage to prevent garganacl to set up curse and heal off the damage dealt

is that not so

[copper fable]

https://pokepast.es/8c25bb340c42e691

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[copper fable]

Dumb Sun team around Bonnet because building Niche mons is the most enjoyment I can muster out of this tier.

[fallow crag]

Bonnet sun really isn’t that bad (the ou team of the week is actually a bonnet sun team)

Band moon seems ill-advised in the current meta, I’d rather have something safer for the endgame

[copper fable]

Band Moon has done approximately nothing in most of my games as is anyway so checks out ig.

[fallow crag]

You should take a look at this team: https://www.smogon.com/forums/threads/vert-sun.3726350/ for inspiration (I will say sun is a very linear build archetype so there ain’t much variation I can suggest)

[spiral fable]

You could run zap

[forest magnet]

chilly into ting lu

[fallen shale]

yeah that sounds like a good enough plan

[sly mauve]

https://pokepast.es/16fd6fe134fffd6e

[forest magnet]

kid named shocks

[sly mauve]

im assuming ting lu over clod

[forest magnet]

yes

[sonic siren]

https://pokepast.es/e599ddccf58ed5e6

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[serene cairn]

can someone rate my team

orsuggest improvements

Cinderace @ Heavy-Duty Boots
Ability: Libero
Tera Type: Fire
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Jolly Nature

• Pyro Ball
• U-turn
• Sucker Punch
• Court Change

Samurott-Hisui @ Choice Scarf
Ability: Sharpness
Tera Type: Water
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 Def / 252 Spe
Jolly Nature

• Ceaseless Edge
• Razor Shell
• Knock Off
• Sacred Sword

Slowking-Galar @ Heavy-Duty Boots
Ability: Regenerator
Tera Type: Grass
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Def / 4 SpD
Relaxed Nature
IVs: 0 Atk / 0 Spe

• Future Sight
• Chilly Reception
• Sludge Bomb
• Toxic

Moltres @ Heavy-Duty Boots
Ability: Flame Body
Tera Type: Fairy
EVs: 248 HP / 248 SpD / 12 Spe
Calm Nature

• Flamethrower
• U-turn
• Hurricane
• Roost

Iron Valiant @ Booster Energy
Ability: Quark Drive
Tera Type: Fairy
EVs: 4 Atk / 252 SpA / 252 Spe
Naive Nature

• Moonblast
• Close Combat
• Thunderbolt
• Psyshock

Baxcalibur @ Heavy-Duty Boots
Ability: Thermal Exchange
Tera Type: Fairy
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 Def / 252 Spe
Jolly Nature

• Dragon Dance
• Glaive Rush
• Icicle Crash
• Earthquake

[real willow]

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[spiral fable]

Not sure about the raptor pick

If you want fast cleaner there’s other options

[weak verge]

https://pokepast.es/819343a936871573

I've been having quite some fun with this sun team that uses moltres/roaring moon as its defensive pivots

I'm sure it can be improved in many ways, suggestions are welcome

(if anyone from previous convos joins in, I dropped jaw lock from moon as you can see, having to have >300 speed was quite bad for it, so I just did the old reliable defensive pivot moveset of recovery + pivoting move + stab + 4th move, I've been considering replacing DDance with earthquake or taunt, but DD seems to do best)

[spiral fable]

ah

this again

uh

drop the overheat on torkoal go for lava plume drop rest go for spin

idk why you're running brick break on edge either swap it for cc or another move

i would run lo on shocks but tahts just me

the liligant is very weird i would drop it fully for wake

[weak verge]

that sounds good

the thought behind brick break was having a fighting type move that didn't drop its defenses but yeah it's not good enough

mainly wanted it for garg/heatran but it ain't enough to garg after a SD lol

[spiral fable]

o maybe rocks on torkoal instead

[weak verge]

can you explain the reasoning behind that? overheat over lava plume seemed better since I don't want to keep torkoal in for multiple rounds and endanger it, and with 3 HDB users I don't really think I need spin lol

[spiral fable]

spin is still useful, especially since tusk can just kinda come in on this team and click knock

i forgor you had wisp but honestly doing plume rocks yawn spin could be better

spin prevents other suicide leads ie hamurott from just coming in and clicking ceaseless edge and getting a bunch of hazards up before you can do anything

[weak verge]

yeah that's valid

the main things that I feel I truely don't have an answer to are the CM cress set, and kingambit can just steamroll if I try to earth power/will-o-wisp/close combat it and it simply has the correct tera to counter me

but I guess I can only deal with only one of these two in team builder lol

[spiral fable]

Gambit just does gambit things you can’t do much about it your best hope is either moltres or wake

[weak verge]

yeah I think getting wake in there instead of lilli will help a lot

[spiral fable]

Cres is a nuisance but you should be able to break it with your physical mons

[weak verge]

I've found it surprisingly difficult, maybe ceru threatens it enough

[ivory willow]

https://pokepast.es/abb7cf30c1a00c55

What you think about this team? Just going for a bulky offense

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[red light]

Nice

Im not a helper but i think running physical band dragapult is better than special

And slapping leftys on slowking instead of heatran cuz regen leftys is good

And u could put assault vest on great tusk since it gives him more bulk, and u have all attacking moves anyways

@ivory willow

[ivory willow]

regen lefty 👀

[ivory willow]

tusk has rocks

oh nvm

tusk

hmmm not bad

[red light]

Yeee lol

Nice team otherwise

U have essentially everything u could ever need lol

[ivory willow]

physical band like darts and shadow force?

[red light]

Phantom force or tera ghost

[ivory willow]

i see

[red light]

Oh wait i forgot he gets darts

Nvm u wanna go darts lmfao

[ivory willow]

im goin darts, phantom u turn

and what for 4th?

flamethrower?

[red light]

i would go

darts, tera ghost, sucker punch, uturn

thats what i normally run on mine

[ivory willow]

Sucker Punch not a bad idea

[red light]

yeee gives priority

[forest magnet]

team is too passive

slowking + heatran are both weak to ground

so its not like its helping anything

[ivory willow]

what mean too passive, its got offensive mons

Hmmm true bout Heatran 😔

[forest magnet]

bro you have 2 spa walls

[forest magnet]

i would say swap heatran for somthing more offensive

[ivory willow]

Just 1 in Heatran right?

[forest magnet]

like a phys pivot

[ivory willow]

I thought Slowking was phys

[forest magnet]

phys attacker pivot

my bad

[ivory willow]

How bout Ttar?

[forest magnet]

no

https://pokepast.es/81227499a5bd5157

somthing like this

maybe make sneasler scarf if needed

[ivory willow]

I see, don need rock?

Not sure of SV meta

[forest magnet]

lemme change that rq

[ivory willow]

Sneasler also weak to ground

[forest magnet]

https://pokepast.es/3ed3b59e01eca255

there

[forest magnet]

yeah, but its being used as a pivot

you aren't trying to stay in on any attacks

[ivory willow]

Whats the Glowking EVs do?

[forest magnet]

its for a spa wall

i don't really like mixed slowking

really pointless

[ivory willow]

Whats the Zap EVs do?

[forest magnet]

its a more defensive zapdos

adds more support

tusk + zapdos

[ivory willow]

whats trying to outspee

Zap for physical 😎

[forest magnet]

is for para fishing

[forest magnet]

tusk and below

[ivory willow]

Oh interesting

Sneasler do seem funni

why not full spdef on glowking?

[forest magnet]

to take u-turns better

[ivory willow]

Ohh I see

[forest magnet]

https://pokepast.es/4a92ac4e35b32df5

scizor team

[vernal prism]

https://pokepast.es/8fb81e036eeb5409 anyone have thoughts on this? It started with the goal of just building around gzap, but it kinda became just trying to see what a more balanced team would look like that deals with hazards by not being super effected by them, rather than wanting to remove them

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[vernal prism]

Feel like the gholdengo set could use some work

[forest magnet]

team is too passive

moltres + rotom is pointless

only offensive mon is like gap dos

[vernal prism]

So replace rotom with something that hits harder?

[forest magnet]

well like u gonna have to reaplce alot

[vernal prism]

Ah fair, this is definitely a first try in a long time building a more defensive team

I know it's not great, but what about chomp/ting lu? Spikes setter that can hit harder

[forest magnet]

no

you are overlapping things like moltres, heatran, rotom

also, there is little synergy bwteen this team

[vernal prism]

So would you say restart on building it?

[forest magnet]

yeah

you just have a bunch of defensive mons

ur not really gonna be making much progess

[vernal prism]

And would you not consider that gholdengo set an offensive mon?

[forest magnet]

no

most tusk kill it, and its not really fast enough

[vernal prism]

Alright, gonna just rebuild. Would you say that it's worth trying again with the idea of building a balance team (which I realize this doesn't really succeed at) that tries to avoid hazards causing problems rather than relying on trying to get rid of them with the fairly limited options we have for that?

[forest magnet]

yeah

just use 4x boots

glowking

and an unaware mon

[fervent shell]

Thoughts on Roaring Moon Tera flying with booster energy acrobatics

[spiral fable]

a: this is team rating so you should bring a full team here
b: that's a pretty standard set yeah

[acoustic pelican]

what would you change

[spiral fable]

switch tusk to a utility set, drop clod for gking, swap boots on bax and adjust set accordingly

[sly mauve]

https://pokepast.es/704660a8745bd448

Can anyone tell me whatd be a good choice for my 6th pokemkn for my sun team and how to improve it

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[forest magnet]

please only post complete teams

[forest magnet]

https://pokepast.es/c5e73b9fd0a554ea

[sly mauve]

ty mb

[forest magnet]

here is a really good sun team right now

[forest magnet]

i would say use this

[elfin pelican]

https://pokepast.es/5fe56537d50a0707

[forest magnet]

half of your team is weak to ice

two of them are 4x

ursaluna and azu are kinda pointless bc you have two of them

they pretty much do the same thning

random hatt

[sonic siren]

I edited a team I made https://pokepast.es/c41fd815165d1f20

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[forest magnet]

i would say don't use ursa

scarf moon should just be like booster

also there is no fairy resist so you need to swap some mons out

[sonic siren]

Ight

I’m trying to go for ho so what should I replace?

[spiral fable]

Why rock slide on moon

[sonic siren]

Lost to enamorus quite a bit

[spiral fable]

Why not iron head?

[sonic siren]

Good point

Forgot it could learn that

[sonic siren]

Who should I replace ursa with

[forest magnet]

maybe iron moth

[sonic siren]

Ight

That’s 2 special wallbreakers tho

Wouldn’t I want one on both sides?

[forest magnet]

u have d nite

change val to a encore set

encore cc, knock and thunderbolt

[sonic siren]

That’s better as a sweeper tho no?

[forest magnet]

ur running ho for a reason

• ursa is too slow

u don't have any trick room

[sonic siren]

Ah ok

I didn’t wanna just have my team get walled on one side

[red tusk]

oops

wrong one

https://pokepast.es/96081237b3764d5b

toughts?

[forest magnet]

swap zard for somthing good

tbh just make your team more sun based

[spiral fable]

offensive tusk over utility, why boots liligant instead of like lo, val feels kinda weird, drop charizard

also i would suggest offensive tera wake

[red tusk]

could you recommend an utility tusk set

[spiral fable]

No I meant run offensive tusk

[red tusk]

ah alright

thx a

thx*

[spiral fable]

There isn’t much point in utility when you’re trying to maximize the power you get from sun

You want to get in and kill everything in those 8 turns

[subtle charm]

https://pokepast.es/bd46face07786162 not a full team but I need opinions on this gren set, it might be a monstrosity idk I always just rip my teams and never try teambuilidng myself

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[forest magnet]

please only post competed teams

[subtle charm]

ok sorry

[forest magnet]

if you need help with teambuilding, ask questions in #comp-general

[subtle charm]

alright yeah thank you

[forest magnet]

np

[subtle charm]

https://pokepast.es/56d822c9e17436b6 i finished it

[spiral fable]

why rest lu

you have like one screen abuser

[subtle charm]

its funny

other than that im not sure

[spiral fable]

well its not that good outside of hard stall

no hazards

[subtle charm]

i was considering switching it to rocks wwind

[spiral fable]

its a very bulky team ig but it doesn't really work well with greninja

[subtle charm]

ninja is there for cleanup with battle bond

yea ill prob switch the lu, ive been testing the team on ladder and lu isnt pulling weight as is

[spiral fable]

i mean this team is very suspectible to getting worn down

and screens really doesn't fit

[subtle charm]

what do you recommend on the hat?

[spiral fable]

honestly i dont think you need hatt at all

[subtle charm]

any ideas for swaps?

[spiral fable]

hmm

val ig

rn this team is pretty weak to bax

[subtle charm]

could i keep the hatt maybe and just do like healing wish draining kiss instead of screens

to help deal with bax and make the team last longer

[spiral fable]

ehhh

even then your team doesn't really last long

lu inherently is going to get chipped fast

you dont have any hazard removal so amoonguss wash heatran and hatterene can all get chipped through that

and greninja is greninja

[subtle charm]

alright, for now ill try the hatt idea but if that doesnt work ill try val like you said, if that doesnt work ill just stick a spinner or defogger in there

ty for your help

[spiral fable]

i think your team would need a lot more than just val if you were to swap

val only really addresses the bax problem

[wise prism]

Need some advice, if someone could kindly point out weak spots ♥️
https://pokepast.es/fb98ce46ed5d235b

[forest magnet]

i would say make it full rain

if you are running rain, you want to run abusers

none of the mons besides floatzel and corviknight abuse rain

[wise prism]

yeah that's the core. The rest just support. You don't feel like running full rain would just open more weaknesses? alternatively I can give pelipper leftovers or helmet over the damp rock if I'm not all in

[forest magnet]

i would say run lefties

[wise prism]

What are lefties? not familiar

[forest magnet]

make val encore too

[forest magnet]

leftovers

[wise prism]

Sweet, thanks. I feel like I’ve been able to cover most threats pretty well with this team. I only occasionally struggle with hatterene and cresselia

Val takes care of both of them with ghost but he has to stay alive

[spiral fable]

basculegion over floatzel

and i agree with matte go full rain

[wise prism]

I have been considering gholdengo or kingambit. Both benefit from rain and gambit benefits from early deaths from the wallbreakers

[spiral fable]

no point in having only one rain abuser

gholdengo doesn't really benefit from rain

fire moves are relatively uncommon

[wise prism]

Reduced fire damage?

Ah. I feel like I see them every other game

Basculegion is a good pick

[spiral fable]

probably slot on zapdos and make clod water absorb

[forest magnet]

bascu + walking wake

[spiral fable]

nah

greninja better

[forest magnet]

good offensive core

[spiral fable]

battle bond greninja goes absolutely wild

[forest magnet]

ass bond

yeah gren can work here too

[spiral fable]

walking waste

[wise prism]

Lol

[forest magnet]

stall player in shambles

[spiral fable]

blissey takes 30% from a crit im not worried

[forest magnet]

um i was running mixed

[spiral fable]

lies and deceit

[wise prism]

Full rain,
pel, bascu, greninja, Zapdos, clod, ???

[spiral fable]

gambit is always good last mon

never can go wrong with gambit

uses rain decently well, can flip matchups on their head, not too rain reliant either

[forest magnet]

252 SpA Choice Specs Protosynthesis Tera Water Walking Wake Hydro Steam vs. 4 HP / 252+ SpD Blissey in Sun on a critical hit: 434-512 (66.5 - 78.5%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

[wise prism]

Cool. I guess spin or defog isn’t needed because I will be mashing water moves?

[spiral fable]

4 hp

[forest magnet]

oh shit rain

[spiral fable]

also here lemme find the screenshot

[wise prism]

Basically sun is an easy pick but I don’t want it, so I’m going rain to combat sun

[spiral fable]

yeah

hazards on clod aren't bad if you ever get a chance to switch it in

but genreally you can break everything with your rain mons anyways

[wise prism]

As long as I get to play clod, I’m happy

[spiral fable]

clod is based

[wise prism]

Best design on a gen 9 mon

[forest magnet]

stall is bad

[spiral fable]

mad cuz bad

[forest magnet]

i'm higher elo shut

[forest magnet]

mad bc enam exists

[spiral fable]

1v1 on showdown rn

[spiral fable]

enam is fodder

[forest magnet]

i would beat u

no need to compete

[spiral fable]

you wish you were as good as stall

cmon i've got 5 hours to spare

[forest magnet]

i wish stall was a good as me

[forest magnet]

no i have school tomorrow :(

[spiral fable]

matte is big stall supporter confirmed

[forest magnet]

i

--

love--

--stall

[hallow scarab]

this is my team and i'm thinking of adding a offensive pokemon which one should i. add

my team:https://pokepast.es/233c5f61de518c69
offensive pokemon i want to add:https://pokepast.es/b5932080d45f22e6

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[spiral fable]

A: frankly semi stall kinda sucks rn trust me I’ve tried

B: I assume you copied the ditto stall team then replaced some of the mons

Don’t run eq on blissey you have an attack of 2

Don’t run screens either if anything is threatening you on the special side it’s either a boosted gholdengo or you’re about to get folded by like a +6 iron moth at which point you’ve lost anyways

Idk why dozo is running surf avalanchce is usually a lot more useful

Drop liquidation for recovery on toxapex this is stall

[hallow scarab]

who would you recommand i should add for my last mon

[spiral fable]

If you want to run an effective semi stall team I would recommend actually taking the cyclizar stall team and swapping out cyclizar

[hallow scarab]

what is eq?

[spiral fable]

Earthquake

[spiral fable]

If you want to still run with this team first of all drop ditto

Not blissey

Oops ditto

Ditto is just there so you don’t get folded by heatran

[hallow scarab]

why do I drop bliessy?

[spiral fable]

Not blissey ditto

[hallow scarab]

Oh ok

Who do you think I should add then if I take out ditto

[spiral fable]

Ting lu fits the team best

Idk why you dropped it in the first place

[hallow scarab]

It was just getting destroyed by every team I came across

[spiral fable]

In my experience ditto stall is a lot harder to use than cyclizar stall

But ting Lu is a very valuable member of the team, with blissey it forms a very effective special core that crucially doesn’t fold to stored power cres

[hallow scarab]

Ohhh Ight

[hallow scarab]

What are good mons for cyclizar stall

[spiral fable]

Cyclizar stall is just this

https://www.smogon.com/forums/threads/updated-peaked-2-2134-elo-–-cyclizar-stall.3724910/

And if you want to try and slot in a semi stall you can drop cyclizar and mess around but you need to be careful of knock then

[hallow scarab]

Ok

Ty for the help

[spiral fable]

Np

Most success I’ve found with semi stall was either running pult or funnily enough quaquaval

[hallow scarab]

Lol Ight gonna try them out then

[spiral fable]

Ace wasn’t a bad pick either and gholdengo was a legit stall mon pre home

But from the current meta you’ll probably have the most success with pult or duck

[elfin pelican]

https://pokepast.es/7efeff3bc6b61665

[viral sable]

New OU RMT @ruby crest, @fallow crag, @green citrus, @severe shard, @west harbor, @forest magnet. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

[fallen shale]

You are running suicide screens lead pult with one setup mon

Treads does not do much with booster unless you want it to be a suicide rocker spinner in my experience, especially offensively

Id make it lefties 252 hp 252 speed

I would probably put in something like baxcalibur, moon or another really threatening setup sweeper

Preferably, stuff that does not rely on contact moves since your offense folds to moltres and zapdos

[elfin pelican]

https://pokepast.es/2a392e4079d4350f thats the updated team

[fallen shale]

A considerable upgrade but it can probably use tweaking still, im not knowledgeable enough to give advice there though

[robust nebula]

https://pokepast.es/52ca502d88d04cbf so i know a lot of the team isnt actually ou, its just a team of mons i really like, and some that make up for their weaknesses. If i have to cut someone, i will. But the Tinkaton absolutely stays ;-;

trying to get into comp pokemon, all help is really appreciated

[forest magnet]

tbh idk what idea you are going for

if you tell me we can build around that

i'm seeing some ho and balance rn

[forest magnet]

tink isn't really a good mon for attacking

if you are gonna use it, use it as a support mon

[robust nebula]

It's gotta work somehow though right!
I had another team where i ran it think
Leftovers, Knock off, Gigaton hammer, protect, cant remember last move

[elfin pelican]

no idea just mon i like to use

[forest magnet]

team lacks in synergy

[forest magnet]

it can work, but very limitedly

things like corv, zap and molt are everywhere

dozo etc...

[robust nebula]

yeah i really struggle dealing with Zapdos with this team

[forest magnet]

i'll make it screens ho

[forest magnet]

so is it alr that i make tink a support mon? it really shines in that catagory

[robust nebula]

i tried terra Ice rotom wash, but it seems too drastic of an answer and tera ice feels like im throwing

[robust nebula]

man 😔 if it must

[elfin pelican]

what?

[forest magnet]

alr

[forest magnet]

hyper offence

with screens

[elfin pelican]

oh

[robust nebula]

Can you by chance give me advice so i can try and build the team myself?
like some tips i can look out for

[forest magnet]

well the team is really random

[robust nebula]

threats and answers to threats that i should probably run and good stat lines. Cause i really just max stats and dont consider that i dont eallly

[forest magnet]

you put just some mons

they don't work together well

[forest magnet]

if you want

think of that tink does good vs

[robust nebula]

not even the drought, Walking wake ;-;

[forest magnet]

and bad vs

[forest magnet]

that does well ig but what does it do for the rest of ur team

[robust nebula]

true

Spice but no meat

okok, so i should look to probably

1. use more actual ou teams
2. have synergy between the whole team

[forest magnet]

yeah

like for example, baxcaibur and slowking

slowking takes fairy hits

and chilly reception boosts bax's defence

[robust nebula]

Alright, i'll be in the lab

How long will you still be online?

[forest magnet]

pretty much all day

came back from school

[robust nebula]

say less good sir

what ability does tink usually want?

Don't see a lot of Intimidate, so is own tempo great orrrr eh?

[forest magnet]

???

tink runs mold breaker

[robust nebula]

IDKDKDKDK

[robust nebula]

okok

IM JUST ASKING

[forest magnet]

blud tink doesn't even get intim

what chu on

[robust nebula]

no im saying

like own tempo for other pokemon

Like Own Tempo as a counter to intimidate mons, i dont see a lot of them so idk if its a good choice or even decent at the very least

[forest magnet]

use mold breaker

[robust nebula]

ight

can i get away with using Fake out and not Stealth rock

[forest magnet]

no

why would you ever use fake out

[forest magnet]

https://pokepast.es/88db6a4ed5f11b68

i made it balance, still don't know how i feel about lead meow

i think you will get better mileage on a scarf set

[robust nebula]

https://pokepast.es/ed4b50935d7519e8

what can i put in as a last in
and is this better?

[forest magnet]

don't use both ursa + azu

you need speed controll

entire team exepect for zama is slow

[spiral fable]

why gunk shot on bear

also i really wouldn't recommend tr lead cress

[cedar gyro]

https://pokepast.es/2f669ae9c3abd181

[viral sable]

New OU RMT @ruby crest, @fallow crag, @green citrus, @severe shard, @west harbor, @forest magnet. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

[cedar gyro]

What do you think of my team?

[forest magnet]

too many things choice locked

[fallow crag]

too many unviables

[forest magnet]

quack + sly is not really good rn

[spiral fable]

no hazards, very prone to chip due to only mon that can remove hazards being quav which isn't that good rn

[cedar gyro]

Oh! I’m shocked 😂

What should i change?

Maybe dd bax

And tusk instead of quack

[spiral fable]

drop sylv

[cedar gyro]

why?

[spiral fable]

not good

[cedar gyro]

I should put Enamorus?

[cedar gyro]

It was mvp of many battles

[spiral fable]

if you want a fairy specail attacker yeah

[spiral fable]

there are many mons that do its role but better

[cedar gyro]

k…😒

Then ill change 😭😭

But thanks 😄

[spiral fable]

np

[cedar gyro]

https://pokepast.es/cf3a689f3ad5fe8a

Is it better?

[spiral fable]

yeah

[cedar gyro]

I think i will change zapdos for rotom wash

[spiral fable]

that could work as well

[forest magnet]

i would say yea

u need two ice resists

[cedar gyro]

Yup thx

Do you guys wanna battle with me?

[spiral fable]

i play stall so i dont think you'd really enjoy that matchup

[cedar gyro]

It’s ok

I want to train

[spiral fable]

uh ok then

ign?

[cedar gyro]

You founded 🤣

You demolished me 😂😂😂

Can i go with another team?? 😄

[spiral fable]

uh sure ig

[forest magnet]

lmao stall moment

[cedar gyro]

I won!

[cedar gyro]

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9ou-1927738476-uky716104uo12tt5wni0gode99ggngjpw

gg!!!

[spiral fable]

made a lot of dumb mistakes that game but it do be like that

probably should've forfeited corv went down

[forest magnet]

blud why did u bring a team that is countered by stall when faya told you they would be playing stall

[cedar gyro]

What???

[spiral fable]

? they have a good matchup

well

not good but decent

[cedar gyro]

I dont understand

[spiral fable]

nplot dengo is always a nuisance + specs sylveon put a lot of pressure on my defensive core

not unwinnable but i played like ass that game

[forest magnet]

lmao i just watched the game

[cedar gyro]

But didn’t you say that sylveon was bad??????

[spiral fable]

well yeah

its still trash

like there are a lot of good mons agianst stall that are completely unviable outside of it

[cedar gyro]

Trash that beat stall 🙃

[forest magnet]

yeah its bad but it has some solid niche

[cedar gyro]

Bulky specs is really good

[spiral fable]

yeah sylveon's like one good thing is breaking stall with specs

and even then its not even that good at it

[cedar gyro]

Against other special attacker

[cedar gyro]

Uuhhhmmmm

[spiral fable]

you would have better matchups using luna or hoopa

[forest magnet]

hoopa is hell for stall

[spiral fable]

yep

[forest magnet]

coinflip simulator

[spiral fable]

but luna is the real death

[forest magnet]

whats luna

[spiral fable]

beacuse you litearlly have to gamble on "please dont tera facade the corv on the switch"

[cedar gyro]

Ursaluna

[forest magnet]

oh nvm

[forest magnet]

lmao

use drifblim ez

[cedar gyro]

Oh

[spiral fable]

sylveon is alright but not worth its team slot when there's better mons for both its niches

[cedar gyro]

Like?

[spiral fable]

like i said

if you want a stall breaker, luna/hoopa

if you want a good fairy type, enamorus or hatterene

[cedar gyro]

It’s not really a stall breaker

[cedar gyro]

I tested but it was not that good in my team core

[spiral fable]

yeah cuz your team core is like half hard stall

[cedar gyro]

Yup

[spiral fable]

which does not work outside of said hard stall

you get folded by a lot of common matchups that you sohuldn't lose to as stall

[cedar gyro]

K

[spiral fable]

in particular both weather teams run through this

[cedar gyro]

Ill do a better tram then

[forest magnet]

@spiral fable i think u got this so yeah

imma study 4 test

[spiral fable]

slacker

[forest magnet]

shut up ur mad bc bad

[spiral fable]

banned for toxicity

[forest magnet]

stall player moment

[cedar gyro]

It is really good for tanking a hit and revenge killing against special attacker

[spiral fable]

once again you've got better mons for this

[cedar gyro]

for bulky attacking?

[spiral fable]

yeah

[forest magnet]

things like gambit

[spiral fable]

gambit is like the definition of "bulky attacking"

come in eat super effective hit sd and start flipping

[cedar gyro]

Yeah but a special one

[forest magnet]

things like dragonite

[cedar gyro]

Gambit is bulky physical attacker

[spiral fable]

i mean cres can be considered one

[cedar gyro]

Sylveon is bulky special attacker

[spiral fable]

cres is a very bulky special attacker

[cedar gyro]

Cres cannot one shot anything

[forest magnet]

what we are saying is that you should swap it out for something else

[spiral fable]

the niche it fills isn't necessary

if you're running stall, sylveon can't take multiple hits and sacrifices a valuable team slot used for better defensive mons

if you're running bulky offense, there are better bulky breakers out there

especially for stall you need basically all 6 team slots

[forest magnet]

i think if you are running stall but still want offence, you should run some 300 speedtier offensive mon

like cb bax

[spiral fable]

no

[forest magnet]

yuh uh

stall weakens the checks

[cedar gyro]

Guys do you wanna do random battles?

[spiral fable]

its 1 am

[cedar gyro]

Not for me

Call an ambulance 😂

[spiral fable]

yeah but you switch in once take like 50 from hazard switch in again die

[forest magnet]

um run corv ez

[spiral fable]

the joe in question

[cedar gyro]

Ok

[forest magnet]

gets chipped by bb and u-turn

over

[spiral fable]

bb?

[forest magnet]

brave bird

[spiral fable]

then the corv gets folded by all the phys mons its supposed to check lol

[forest magnet]

https://tenor.com/view/heatran-stark-mountain-sinnoh-pokemon-generations-gif-7396061

you fear him

[spiral fable]

yes

[elfin pelican]

need a way to deal with store powered pokemon

[forest magnet]

like?

i would say run scarf meow with trick before it gets outta controll

[elfin pelican]

https://pokepast.es/1de279ddc641b7e6 Introducing thing 1 and thing 2

[forest magnet]

bro what

what did u do???

[elfin pelican]

meowscarda and glimmet

thing 1 and thing 2 here to create a bunch of hazards

[forest magnet]

you have only pult to keep hazards up

also sacking 2 mons for max hazards isn't worth it

[elfin pelican]

Its funny tho

thats all im here for is funny

[vestal surge]

hi, can someone help me to improve this team? https://pokepast.es/422702732688683b

[viral sable]

New OU RMT @ruby crest, @fallow crag, @green citrus, @severe shard, @west harbor, @forest magnet. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

[elfin pelican]

https://pokepast.es/c804bbf97d6fdd2d Glimmet got replaced with moltres for type coverage

[west harbor]

i think all your tera types are messed up (all primary typing) so id check those first

id recommend gking > pex here to give you chilly reception pivot into your breakers. you already have a solid water resist with volcanion so having that extra pivoting + future sight + more immediate way to punish valiant is good

in last slot you could probably benefit from a different setup mon over scizor. bax would be good because it makes you a lot better into zapdos (it kinda just wins otherwise) with boots it helps you a lot vs hazard stack teams and puts less pressure on tusk to remove

something small to consider is boots pivot meow > band too. band is fine but it’s very susceptible to hazards / easily punished for being locked into a move. you could alternatively try a boots volc set + band meow which makes you less susceptible to hazards

as for evs i’d run 152 speed timid on zapdos to outspeed tusk and bax. your volc should also have speed too - go max if you’re running specs but if you change to boots you can use the dex set

[west harbor]

hazards lead meow (and dedicated leads in general) only really work on offensive teams where all the teammates can capitalise on the hazards that have been set. your team isn’t really a hyper offense structure so having another mon that’s useful all game is better here - you could try boots pivot meow / maybe even band, or consider another breaker to help with overall passivity

you can now try rocks tusk to give you some hazard support + id also consider running some speed on kingambit so you’re not too reliant on sucker. leftovers would also be better if you wanted to go bulkier

molt + tusk + gking is a good core. id consider going chilly reception pivot gking over assault vest because it lets you pivot into pult more easily

[vestal surge]

damn I forgot the teratypes XD

I'll check them, thx!

https://pokepast.es/a2ec29dc6395b48f

how is it, now?

[west harbor]

id use glowking pivot set here https://www.smogon.com/dex/sv/pokemon/slowking-galar/ instead of av so you can heal and also bring volc/bax in with chilly reception

id also recommend tera dragon/fairy over ice on bax, dragon for power and fairy to flip the type chart and set up on things more easily. icicle crash > shard probably is better on dd too bc you’re faster than most at +1 anyway so prio is less of a concern

[surreal bloom]

https://pokepast.es/c29fc4d1562a4977

[viral sable]

New OU RMT @ruby crest, @fallow crag, @green citrus, @severe shard, @west harbor, @forest magnet. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

[surreal bloom]

this prob loses to zap

[west harbor]

id say so yea

i think your best bet would be to replace quaq with smth that beats it, probably bax

[elfin pelican]

so something like this?

[spiral fable]

no team :(

[elfin pelican]

https://pokepast.es/29bb2829f24f1da5 just realized i never sent the team

[viral sable]

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[forest magnet]

i would say swap meow for somthing else

too much type overlap + ur pretty frail with pult

[placid remnant]

I like playing 221 spe on Moltres to outspeed AV Hoopa that want to outspeed tran

It’s just 8 EVs difference soo

[rain gyro]

221 what

oh wait

points

i thought you meant 221 evs 💀

[placid remnant]

221 speed

No im not that bad to say an impair number..

[wet cape]

https://pokepast.es/2e435c3b43e74172

[viral sable]

New OU RMT @ruby crest, @fallow crag, @green citrus, @severe shard, @west harbor, @forest magnet. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

[wet cape]

please help

[spiral fable]

seems to me you're kinda weak to bax

+1 bax straight up ohkoes most of the team

the only mons that can take a hit are wash(which has a really high chance of getting ohkoed from tera dragon) and tusk(which can't even hit back for 50%)
so you need to save defensive tera for when bax comes in the field

[hearty notch]

https://pokepast.es/43176c4f63e96282
Im new to competitve pokemon. I really like the idea of a rain team but im sure this one still has lots of room for improvement

[spiral fable]

ok dont run scizor or drednaw

you have better options for both

wash is questionable as well and you definitely need to revamp that set

i would recommend swapping on greninja

maybe gambit as well but that's up to you i like gambit on rain

[hearty notch]

So what do i put on greninja and gambit? Do i keep wash?

[spiral fable]

wash is alright but generally you'd want to be using your rain turns for better offensive mons

its not bad though

greninja, run battle bond lo/specs that's up to you

i run lo but most of the time click hydro pump anyways

gambit, bulky sd would be best

use the sample sets for them if you dont know what to put

[hearty notch]

Ok

[sand citrus]

can somebody give me some advice pls ?

https://pokepast.es/e047381641d407fc

[hearty notch]

https://pokepast.es/bfa1fdb563a41161 Better now?

[spiral fable]

its alright but im iffy about the bareskewda pick

you already have 2 main rain abusers, with zapdos and kinda gambit as well

skewda on top of that seems a bit excessive

you could go with a hazard setter

[hearty notch]

Lile what

[spiral fable]

i know a common rain team that uses ting lu

[forest magnet]

team is really weak to ground no resists, not much breaking power on your team

i would say swap amoong for somthing else (prob a flying type) like zapdos

make val booster energy with encore, swap garchomp for ting-lu and make cinderace a bulky set

team is pretty passive with not much damage dealing besides hazards

somthing like this, but you can customize to your preferences

https://pokepast.es/1b351478939433a5

[forest magnet]

I would say to go for somthing like walking wake

add more spa

[sand citrus]

Ty very much for the team u sent to me !
Initially i had corviknight instead of gholdengo like this
https://pokepast.es/b572493cb25a856a
sry if im annoying but would u still replace chomp for ting lu with corv ?

[forest magnet]

yeah

added bulk goes a long way

[sand citrus]

ok i see ty for ur help i'll try this team !

[nocturne dagger]

https://pokepast.es/9ec4ebe067e4dd2e first time building for ou in a while

[viral sable]

New OU RMT @ruby crest, @fallow crag, @green citrus, @severe shard, @west harbor, @forest magnet. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

[fallow crag]

Cool team idea, I remember us south running something similar early in wcop with battle bond gren + bax

I’d suggest stone edge over wild charge on zama

Hits zapdos and doesn’t incur contact vs moltres

I think boots on bax is a good idea here

I like sub to bait twave from gking

But boots good

I like the team tho

[forest magnet]

oh u on it

[fallow crag]

Maybe lefties over helmet on corv since the team really appreciates the removal

[nocturne dagger]

thanks

[fallow crag]

I’ll have to ask

Crying made something very similar

But they didn’t share pastes

Good stuff!

[forest magnet]

@fallow crag https://pokepast.es/8d06eeffadee946a

rate this too :3

trying to get to as many ppl as possible

[nocturne dagger]

is it still worth running ice body on bax if i’m not going all in with lefties?

[forest magnet]

yeah

[fallow crag]

The team name is confusing

[forest magnet]

boots + defence boost + lice body

[fallow crag]

100% yeah since rotom is seeing no usage pretty much

[forest magnet]

*ice

[forest magnet]

thats all?

[fallow crag]

Nah I’m at dinner give me a bit lmao

[forest magnet]

oops

mb

[fallow crag]

Ok the team is probably fine as is but I have things that are like

Personal preferences

I think Tera dragon on pult here is flatly better for the nuke potential

This is something njnp preached to me and I think it’s really good

Finally you may look into shuca on gking

Lures quake bax

Cause it is unlikely but thermal bax fucks you up a bit

[vernal prism]

https://pokepast.es/87d64f2bc14672f5 honestly just feeling like I'm missing some synergy here

[viral sable]

New OU RMT @ruby crest, @fallow crag, @green citrus, @severe shard, @west harbor, @forest magnet. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

[rose hinge]

https://pokepast.es/97437a3a0b815170

offensive zapdos team

everything cna change but i want to use this zapdos

[spiral fable]

zapdos galar isn't that good, no hazards
sub hex pult is a very annoying nuisance for this team since val and gambit are your only ways to deal with it, and val gets very easily chipped while gambit hates burns

[spiral fable]

why do you have two banded attackers, no hazard removal

its very easy to chip down your team especially since you have only 1 defensive mon and no way to remove hazards

if you want to use offensive zapdos rain is always a good option

[hearty notch]

https://pokepast.es/6427f60498873aa1
How is this sneasler team?

[viral sable]

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[spiral fable]

Defiant gambit?

[hearty notch]

Just realized lol

[spiral fable]

Also run encore val

[hearty notch]

What do i switch it for

[spiral fable]

And if you wanna bulky pivot run wash

[spiral fable]

Spirt break

Your team is very physical heavy

And it’ll struggle to break through phys walls

[hearty notch]

I never know when to use that

[spiral fable]

Swap in when they use defensive move, click encore, win

Or predict the switch sd and still win

Problem is dozo kinda sits on this team rn

[hearty notch]

https://pokepast.es/85a0db5903eb83a4

[spiral fable]

And it struggles to break phys walls in general

[spiral fable]

Kowtow over iron head

Always kowtow on gambit

[hearty notch]

Is samurott the best lead for this?

[spiral fable]

Don’t run shadow ball

Run switch pump status and then either protect or tbolt

[spiral fable]

Samurott lead is always good but run sash not band

Also I’m not sure about two leads cuz playing two mons down is a pretty big risk

Especially since this team lacks special attackers

[hearty notch]

Thunder wave or will o wisp better?

[spiral fable]

Honestly on second thought I’m not sure about the wash pick at all

You’re going for ho

You don’t need bulky pivots

You could run like cres instead to abuse screens

Also helps with your crippling weakness to physical walls

[hearty notch]

Inst there any other option?

Ive been enjoying grimmsnarl very much

[spiral fable]

You can keep Grimm if you want

It’s not bad

I’m saying drop wash for cres

[hearty notch]

So what do i put in the last slot

Oh ok

2 screens?

[spiral fable]

???

I mean stored power cres

[hearty notch]

https://pokepast.es/38b5399e324a1e8d

[surreal bloom]

Guessing u tried making the hsam sash

[hearty notch]

Idk what that is

Started playing showdown yesterday

[hearty notch]

Samurott has sash idk what happened

[spiral fable]

Tera poison on cres

[thin gorge]

https://pokepast.es/45f99c91ce52426b can someone rate my team

[spiral fable]

no point in running sub wake on a ho team

and the evs are kinda wack

might want to swap one of your special attackers for a physical one

o yeah also why are you running tera blast on moth that tera fires anyways

why not like psychic or something

bit iffy about goltres but seems like thats the gimmick of your team so

[forest magnet]

i would say run tera blast ground for moth

[forest magnet]

no fire resist besides samu, so sun teams or like moltres just destroy your team

i would say get rip of corv bc is a momentum sink

[forest magnet]

team is really weak to unaware users, too much setup

i would say swap somthing out like wake or goltres for a choiced mon

[pure bloom]

I'm not the best player ever but I peaked in 1500s with this build I made https://pokepast.es/b195895a766b4d0e
I've noticed it gets overwhelmed by hazard stack and knock off spam, is there anyway I can slot in a spinner without changing too much? I can try defog on Moltres but it doesn't solve the knock off issue

[viral sable]

New OU RMT @ruby crest, @fallow crag, @green citrus, @severe shard, @west harbor, @forest magnet. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

[forest magnet]

moltres doesn't get defog this gen sadly :(

i'll fix ur team up and take what you said in mind and send u back a pokepaste :)

i'll expain the changes is needed too.

[pure bloom]

preciate it bro

[forest magnet]

also good sence of teambuilding too :)

[pure bloom]

[forest magnet]

https://pokepast.es/f09900cb1a6c9781

there ya go

i just swapped scream tail for tusk

and swapped clod for slowking

tusk is for better hazard removal + knock off asorb

and slowking is for weather and momentum.

clod felt too passive

also changed the dozo set for just phys attackers because ur strong vs most phys atttckers alr

[pure bloom]

gonna test it out rn

looking clean man

[undone stratus]

https://pokepast.es/4f1d253ac0206582 any way to improve this?

[viral sable]

New OU RMT @ruby crest, @fallow crag, @green citrus, @severe shard, @west harbor, @forest magnet. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

[sly mauve]

is there anything I need to improve?
https://pokepast.es/ef2d1b31b001ddd8

[west harbor]

you have 2 stealth rock users here, and you only really need 1. what you can do is either change lando to tusk, which gives you removal instead and a similar ability to check physical stuff. you could also consider changing the lando set to something offensive if you wanna keep the ground immunity

you could always try a diff ground immune in that slot like zapdos too

id also recommend kingambit over hoopa here bc hoopa doesn’t rly do anything specific and gambit would give you a proper ghost resist so you’re better into dragapult

as for valiant i going shadow ball over tbolt is more consistent bc you can hit gholdengo and glowking

there’s a few tera type options as well like ghost and steel that would give you better defensive utility

[west harbor]

idt indeedee fits here - psychic terrain is a super specific playstyle and not something you can slap onto any hyper offense team because it wastes a slot unless you have terrain abusers

if you wanna do psy terrain you’d have to rebuild a lot, so this is easier to fix into a general HO

hsamurott is generally a better lead than kleavor because spikes are a lot more consistent in the meta. most flyings / stuff weak to rocks has boots so the extra chip isn’t as beneficial. samurott is also better into tusk especially if you run surf

in the indeedee slot i think booster valiant is always a good pick for hyper offense, there’s a few sets you can experiment with but i like sd + encore

ursaluna isn’t rly that great either but it’s probably workable if you wanted to keep

[sly mauve]

just curious but how would a improved version of my team would look like?

[west harbor]

https://pokepast.es/722809c137d8030c is only making the most basic changes, but you could try this version with bax > ursaluna to give you another string phys breaker that’s a bit faster and doesn’t have to take as mcuh damage https://pokepast.es/fa94ecca4b1466fb

if you feel like you have too many phys attackers you can try cm valiant there but it should be fine in theory

[sly mauve]

alr

[drowsy patrol]

https://pokepast.es/aaa1b66724313428 how can i improve my metronome team

[west harbor]

this channel is really for rating competitively viable ou teams - using metronome means that you’re not gonna be able to run 4 viable moves so there aren’t rly improvements to be made

[spiral fable]

metronome is unviable in any tier

[forest magnet]

um prob don't use it

[sly mauve]

Actually, the last team I used didn't work out with me, I have this team created now, is there anything that needs changing?
https://pokepast.es/38c99de26abd2154

[viral sable]

New OU RMT @ruby crest, @fallow crag, @green citrus, @severe shard, @west harbor, @forest magnet. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

[forest magnet]

team is really weak to water, you have hazards but nothing to keep them up, mons don't have much synergy

like why the random moltres on an ho looking team

[sly mauve]

what mons I need to replace then with?

[forest magnet]

well its an ho looking team so prob somthing offensive

[sly mauve]

like what?

[forest magnet]

like waking wake, but then you would swap gren out for somthing else

maybe encore val

to be safe vs setup and speed controll

[sly mauve]

mind if you send me a pokepaste of what an improved version of my team will look like?

[forest magnet]

sure sure

[sly mauve]

Mind you, this might be the current team I will use in OU for now on

Also I kinda do need a lead mon that can counter Samurott leads.

[spiral fable]

i mean glim does "counter" sash hamurott leads

also wouldn't booster shocks be better here

[forest magnet]

yeah i'm on it

[spiral fable]

smh work faster

[forest magnet]

https://pokepast.es/e00d20d600056d2f

somthign like this

[sly mauve]

alr then

Ima just use this team for now on

[forest magnet]

no, i think that in order to learn more as a player you should try mixing up the types of teams you play

[sly mauve]

alr then

[past night]

https://pokepast.es/4da003308ded33ea

Thoughts on my Ursaluna Sneasler Team?

[waxen hinge]

https://pokepast.es/08d93230f3b33628

I like this team but it loses alot

[past night]

You have no flying types and no terra flying users either

Bold move

[waxen hinge]

https://pokepast.es/3849cb97027c394b

Sometimes i put too many ground types

[spiral fable]

You don’t need flying types on a team?

[spiral fable]

This looks like ho in which case you should run a suicide lead, drop chomp cuz there’s better dragon type sweepers, and I’m not sure about tera blast ground on sneasler since the only steel you can’t hit is gholdengo which can be solved with night slash

[spiral fable]

Mixed hisuian samurott isn’t good, much less vest mixed samurott

Also might want to run sd on Luna instead of fire punch/drain punch but that’s up to you

Probably want uturn on corv

And mixed Val is a really big threat to this team

[forest magnet]

brooo

i thought i read mexican samurott

[spiral fable]

the third regional form

gamefreak really getting desperate

[forest magnet]

lol

[past night]

Yeah something I’m trying out, thinking about swapping him for Muk or Gambit

[spiral fable]

gking is always a good option

[past night]

He is but I would prefer a dark type to take a few hits of shadow ball or opposing gambit

H Sammy did save me from a terrifying snow frostmoth team though not gonna lie lol

[spiral fable]

theres just better special walls

gking for utility, and blissey/clod if all you want to do is sit on them

[waxen hinge]

I think my teams are too slow

[forest magnet]

yeah

you need more type diversity

slapping heatran on a team and saying its ok is not good

i'll make some changes eq

*rq

[forest magnet]

https://pokepast.es/5a7b68eeb428e696

big changes, i made it a hazard stack offence, i also took what you said into mind and made the team a bit faster

[waxen hinge]

Hey this looks neat

[forest magnet]

np, i can explain changes if needed

[waxen hinge]

I tend to make my whole team full of sweepers

[forest magnet]

lol

stack hazards and then chip down checks

then sweep

bc it will be easier to kill

[forest magnet]

https://pokepast.es/6ad23bfee1517597

just changed some tera types

[waxen hinge]

My old team i thought garchomp would be my champ

But he ended up dying before i could even attack

[forest magnet]

lol

rip chomp

its not as good as it was before

[waxen hinge]

I like him but he is messing up my battles

Especially against dragapult

[viral sable]

New OU RMT @ruby crest, @fallow crag, @green citrus, @severe shard, @west harbor, @forest magnet. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

[forest magnet]

alr what weaknesses do u got with this team

waht do u wanna change abt it

[spiral fable]

matte there instantly bruh

[forest magnet]

i'm on it :)

k

[spiral fable]

shocks looks like a major nuisance to this team

[forest magnet]

yeah only hazard removal is corv so thats kinda tuff

also you have nothing that really is threating to ting-lu

[spiral fable]

i mean azumarill ig

[forest magnet]

yeah but ting will be switchin in multi times

then hazard chip + eq chip from ting

[spiral fable]

fair

[forest magnet]

alr

https://pokepast.es/a19ce05425314cd5

i swapped shocks for tusk

its faster than gold you you can knock off to get rid of air. balloon then eq for kill

close combat is good vs gambit and bax

so just really usefully utility

also corv is kinda bad rn

so i swapped out for molt

molt is good with glowking and gambit

np, i can expain the changes if needed

oh

its a utility tusk

max speed to outspeed lots of things it wouldn't normally

like gholdengo

its for anti hazard stack

you knock off predicting to gold

then kill it with eq

hp is for bulk

np

@spiral fable bet u don't get that

[spiral fable]

i hope that your next 10 ladder games are hard stall

[drowsy patrol]

https://pokepast.es/7696a72d4f6ff0b1 how can i better this

[placid remnant]

Springtide storm is worst than moonblast on enamorus

Also everyone running female gender so Cute charm is quite useless

Contrary woukd help against sticky if you tera fairy

As you will get a free scarf instead of a drop

[waxen hinge]

Is diversifying a good idea when making a team

[spiral fable]

no hazards and unreliable hazard removal
you want uturn on ace, you messed up the ivs on azumarill you want 140 speed not defense, if you're running ddance pult i would recommend the sub leftovers set, like the other dude said run moonblast over springtide on enamorus and you should run psychic and mystical fire over focus blast and sludge bomb, cute charm is meh but contrary also aint much better so up to you, change the tera type on garg electric sucks, drop facade for superpower/ice spinner up to you on azumarill, tera ghost on pult

o yeah volt switch on zap

your ivs are kinda wack on enamorus

[spiral fable]

yes

well actually what do you mean by diversifying

[waxen hinge]

Not accidentally adding to many dragons and ground types

[spiral fable]

then yes

the only time stacking types is good is on weather teams

[slate vault]

https://pokepast.es/f5fef9b1d6262282 just put this together nd did alrigh any suggestions?

[forest magnet]

ofc