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rain gyro
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Ping me if they wake up btw

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I'm tryna get good at teambuilding so

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Wanna check this out

forest magnet
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they did alr

rain gyro
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Ah

rain gyro
forest magnet
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??

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rlly

rain gyro
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Because if not i'm damn surprised a new player built a

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Real solid team

forest magnet
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I was tricked!!

rain gyro
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No i'm asking lmao

rain gyro
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Just checked

forest magnet
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oh alr

rain gyro
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I was wondering

forest magnet
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i was boutta crush em

forest magnet
rain gyro
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Because i remember being new to comp and i was NOT

spiral fable
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doesn't look like a sample

rain gyro
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Able to make teams this good

spiral fable
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(mostly from the edge set)

rain gyro
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But yea

rain gyro
spiral fable
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honestly i think he should drop edge for another mon

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but thats just me

fickle salmon
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Back

forest magnet
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guys i got this

forest magnet
rain gyro
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Oki

forest magnet
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what did we want to discuss

spiral fable
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let him cook?

spiral fable
forest magnet
spiral fable
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fym hush its right there

fickle salmon
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Just the roles of each mon on my team, I have an idea but I just wanted to confirm

forest magnet
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alr

forest magnet
fickle salmon
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I’m new to battling so I just wanna have a good idea

fickle salmon
forest magnet
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no need to dog on them

spiral fable
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matte you are a menace to society

forest magnet
rain gyro
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Chaos

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But yeah

forest magnet
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there are general roles but not set roles

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for example, cerulege is most of the time gonna be a setup sweeper

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but it can also be a defensive wall

fickle salmon
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Ah right I mean the roles of the mons with their moves and EVs on my team

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As it is right now

forest magnet
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lemme update ur team rq then we can talk

fickle salmon
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Okay

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Thanks once more :)

forest magnet
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alr, i made some changes

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torkal is gonna be ur sun setter ofc, it can take some hits on the def side

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watch out for rocks tho, keep them off the field as it takes alot of damage from them

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use hatt to bounce them back

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wake is gonna be your main sun abuser, it shreds up alot of spa walls like the common slowking galar

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roaring moon is gonna be your sun abuser on the phys side. u-turn allows for better momeuntum to switch between ur checks

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hatt is gonna be ur spa sweeper, it can beat teams when they are weakned or its checks are eliminated

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tusk is gonna be hazard removal besides torkal, you could swap spin for knock off tho

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cerulege is your setup sweeper, use it late game in general

fickle salmon
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Okay, I sometimes can use hatt that way, don’t find many opportunities for it to sweep, but when it gets it, it does go hard.

Looks like I have a lot more sweepers than I thought on the team

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Honestly my sun team suffers from hazards

spiral fable
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yeah thats just sun in general

forest magnet
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it can give ur sweepers another life to destroy

fickle salmon
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That sounds pretty cool

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I’ll try it

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Also I was thinking maybe I can switch Ceruledge out for Moltres?

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To help with pivoting?

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Or maybe à mon that can help with hazard removal

forest magnet
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use hatt to bounce hazards back

fickle salmon
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Yeah tusk is good at it, I’ve found that H-samurott can get hazards up through hatt

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And tusk struggles hard to remove hazards against balloon goldengo

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H-samurott is a menace to my team and H-samurott + balloon goldengo is a nightmare combo

forest magnet
forest magnet
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then kill with wake

fickle salmon
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Ah awesome, was gonna ask how I deal with H-Samurot as well

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Will try both of those suggestions

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Originally this team had corvi instead of Ceruledge. Is it a better idea to have corvi?

forest magnet
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  • hatt
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ceru gives extra support

sudden rose
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https://pokepast.es/ea255aa13f31878f how can i improve this team?
i've just picked up OU, tried building a few teams but i just suck at building offense in this meta, so this team I started with arc-H and ended up having much better results with bulky balance(maybe semi-stall? idk how to categorize). the general idea was to spread para so that arc-H can outspeed its checks while generally healing with wish support from scream tail. garg and slowking are defensive beasts and sometimes win the game themselves wither by salt cureing/walling key threats or pivoting to arc-H on favorable mus. ting lu used to be a zapdos but i was so weak to vswitch spam and gholdengo and the switch definitely made the team sturdier. i still have trouble against stuff like sneasler, lilligant-H, dragapult and last mon kingambit, curse don and iron defense/curse garg any tips would be greatly appreciated!

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forest magnet
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they are pretty weak to things like zapdos and sandy shocks

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also scream tail wish support is not really good because arc already has rock head.

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i think that if you just have some better hazard controll in place of scream tail it would be better

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or mabye made somthing more offensive by adding hex. Pult maybe?

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also idk why ting lu is there when you have no hazard controll (keeping them on the feild)

sudden rose
forest magnet
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like bro ain't gon be doing anything vs zapdos

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hurricane

sudden rose
forest magnet
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all of you walls have recovery except ting lu

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if you mange hp well no need

sudden rose
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Yeah fair, that's a doubt I was having, since I'm just battling low ladder I wasn't sure if I was just not getting punished by opponents or if this was actually viable

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So what could work there instead of ting lu and scream tail?

forest magnet
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rn your only offence is h-arc

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I think that if you add somthing that compliments your walls and gives move firepower then the team will be better off

forest magnet
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i think somthing like this would be better.

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imma keep it real, i think that h-arc is better suited as a cleaner on HO, but it works on this team as well.

sudden rose
forest magnet
sudden rose
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Yeah I gave up on the arc-H train when I had to switch zapdos for ting lu since it lost much of the whole "spread para to support arc" idea but its been doing good work and idk what else to fit

strange escarp
forest magnet
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i think you should replace them for better spa checks

strange escarp
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AV Glo-king + scarfed Val was my first idea

jovial gust
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spiral fable
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not so sure about curse on screens pult think status might be better

jovial gust
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Appreciate the feedback thanks

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Zarude seed bomb helps now and again, maybe it's just because ppl aren't expecting it?

spiral fable
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i mean seed bomb is fine power whip might be better if you're willing to gamble but its fine as is

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the problem is your dark type mon is running no dark type moves and instead is stacking two fighting

ruby crest
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I wouldn’t even use zarude if you want an offensive grass dark you can do meow

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Tho realistically this team needs some fine tweaking fwiw it’s a screens team with one real abuser

jovial gust
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meow is bonkers, did not even know that existed (returning from sword/shield)

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leaf storm/knock off looks good

spiral fable
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ruby crest
sly mauve
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ok

bitter sedge
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quick lil team i made what we thinking

forest magnet
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make meow scarf

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body press on brave bird

gilded swallow
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forest magnet
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i made some changes , i'll explain them if needed

gilded swallow
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ty

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im getting them yea

forest magnet
forest magnet
gilded swallow
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yeah i got it

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ty

vernal topaz
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https://pokepast.es/022fc421e7d49223 if i dont really like using kingambit on this standard hazard stack team in the samples, what should i replace it with? i dont care if its a bit worse

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obsidian fable
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anyone want to rate this team? the goal is to make them think a sucker punch is coming late in the game and then nasty plot up and sweep

ruby crest
vernal topaz
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Ah, fair

forest magnet
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if hazards up its gone

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also for some reason, you have supreme overlord on your kingambit so the doesn't even work

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magnezone is kinda random there

weak verge
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weak verge
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hey, any opinions on this team?

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I'm relatively new, but the main idea is to use SpDef roaring moon and Def Tusk as the team's defensive core, with sun to give them SPDef/Def protosynthesis respectively

weak verge
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nvm changed it lol

forest magnet
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and even with tera they are still both weak to psychic

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everything is weak to ground as it hits them or for super effective damage

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exeption is gold but its balloon can get popped

forest magnet
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it might catch one people off guard once, but then for the rest of the match they are aware of it giving u less milage on your set

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even if you "trap" iron val, its still gonna kill you

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also all the other checks

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like pult is gonna go for draco

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val is gonna just setup itself

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u-turn + jaw lock are 4x resist

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if imma be honest, just don't use spd moon

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i think the spd is just a base stat and should be used to be a switch in then give a strong hit back

weak verge
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to be honest the only valiants that have posed a threat to this team or pokemon were the physical ones, though not even spirit break could break it

forest magnet
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idk what u facin, maybe low ladder shenagains

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but most phys val run knock off

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and cc

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also spa val can have calm mind

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or physhock

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so your spd investment doesn't matter

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and if you don't tera u gonna get killed

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i don't mean to be a hater

weak verge
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and moon really doesn't rely on a surprise factor, nor is setting up its main goal, it's simply a mon that has tyranitar's special bulk with u turn and roost

forest magnet
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but its just not the best idea

forest magnet
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I think RU

weak verge
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yes and?

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do you disagree that it has amazing special bulk? lol

forest magnet
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my gren ohkoed it in sand

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  • val aura sphere
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maybe its just the set

weak verge
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thankfully moon has both a better typing for a pivot and a better moveset than ttar

forest magnet
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alr lets not argue

forest magnet
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if you still wanna use moon i can change your team to better it

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but i don't think its the best idea

spiral fable
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i really dont think moon is it yeah

weak verge
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I still do yeah, it's kind of the entire point of building this team, as I said the previous time we talked about this team

forest magnet
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i hope you acknowledge my claim though

weak verge
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I'm not sure which one you mean

forest magnet
weak verge
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that's ok, I do acknowledge it but can't help but disagree

spiral fable
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lets look at the special attackers of the tier:
enamorus: if its cm it'll just set up on you and then click earth power
cres: stored power
ghold: no one's keeping their ghold in on a moon
hatterene: psychic/blast/psyshock
val: psyshock/moonblast/phys attack
pult: uturn

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wake: you're literally giving it free sun

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same with shocks

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moth is alright ig but it'll probably just switch out

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and on the switch you still take massive chip from sludge

weak verge
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again, it's neither meant to be a blanket special wall nor is its primary focus trapping something and setting up on it

forest magnet
spiral fable
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well then why are you running it

weak verge
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if the enemy enamorus isn't choice locked, you just u-turn into your shocks

forest magnet
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why do you have u-turn on a setup trap set

weak verge
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because it's not a setup trap set

forest magnet
spiral fable
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-ddance
-roost
-jaw lock

weak verge
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that's only in case it happens to find a good trap

spiral fable
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the only good trap you'll get is maybe greninja

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and that's a roll if they're just going to click u turn

weak verge
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roost/u-turn with its huge bulk is what's amazing for it

weak verge
forest magnet
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but bro

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the only attacking move have

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its jaw lock

spiral fable
forest magnet
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kid named great tusk

gentle flower
spiral fable
weak verge
spiral fable
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tusk still sits on both sets which is probably going to be the most common switch in

forest magnet
gentle flower
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Yeah ik and anyway if u need tera to be gud ur not gud

spiral fable
forest magnet
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then you wasted a bunch of pp

spiral fable
weak verge
spiral fable
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and once again if you're just being forced to roost that's a free turn for your opponent

gentle flower
weak verge
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and this is a very offensive team, if the game lasts enough for moon to switch in and out 8 times something's wrong lol

forest magnet
weak verge
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I got to 1300 yesterday with it for the first time, starting from 1100

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which is not much but definitely an improvement for me

spiral fable
forest magnet
spiral fable
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also, wh is there sunny day on wake

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i just noticed

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you're specced

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why are you running sunny day

gentle flower
forest magnet
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bluds choice locked

spiral fable
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-come in
-click sunny day
-???

weak verge
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I read about it in a set about how it forces switches and don't know what else I should put there

gentle flower
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Ye its just stupid

spiral fable
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yeah it forces switches on lo

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run pulse

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dragon pulse

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or like agility if you want to have fun idk

weak verge
gentle flower
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I like having tera blast fairy on choice wake

spiral fable
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its really not it but aight m8

forest magnet
weak verge
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even jaw lock or DDance on moon isn't something I'm fully sold on, I just wanna have a team that uses it as a special pivot

forest magnet
spiral fable
spiral fable
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but better

forest magnet
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lmao

spiral fable
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well

forest magnet
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its a slow pivot

spiral fable
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ig chilly recption overrides sun

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but even then just run band then

forest magnet
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its so strong

spiral fable
gentle flower
forest magnet
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with weather

spiral fable
forest magnet
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@weak verge i'm going to make moon a normal set, but i will add slowking galar to your team

gentle flower
spiral fable
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o yeah also this team gets completely sat on by stall but idk if you care about that

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that's like 80% of teams anyways

weak verge
forest magnet
spiral fable
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i mean alright but whe you go to the comp rate my team and ask for feedback

weak verge
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this is literally the only reason I'm even trying to make this team, cause I like it

spiral fable
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you're going to get feedback

weak verge
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sure

gentle flower
weak verge
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and I'm pretty sure there can be feedback that respects what I even want?

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there are tons of teams built around shitmons

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I'm sure having to work with SpDef moon can't be that hard

gentle flower
spiral fable
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if you want a good team(which is why you come here)

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yes, working with spdef moon is that hard

weak verge
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eh ok

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guess I won't come here then

forest magnet
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alr done

spiral fable
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you didnt even put gking bruh

forest magnet
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i also can keep spd moon

forest magnet
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i like hazard stack + sun offence

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cool idea

gentle flower
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Maybe in the "others" thing

forest magnet
gentle flower
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Glhf

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:3

forest magnet
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well they left

spiral fable
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??? they're still in the server

forest magnet
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@weak verge sorry, for all the comments. Its just that we are suggesting somthing else. If you insist I will build but we are saying that this isn't really good and you would be better off with somthing else. But, as you request I will build you a team around spd moon

weak verge
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you really don't have to, and I am well aware that band moon is generally better, I just want to find a way to make this work

spiral fable
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tera steel would probably be better

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if you want to stick with the "jaw lock ddance" strat

weak verge
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how come?

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that one I'm fully willing to change

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just wanna understand it

forest magnet
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fairy, bug, ice

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dragon

spiral fable
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a lot of common spatckers will have psychic coverage for some reason

weak verge
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I'll try it out for sure

spiral fable
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fighting is a bigger threat but most mons dont run special fighting coverage

forest magnet
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here

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swapped gold for moltres bc its better on punishing u-turn + hazard removal if spin

weak verge
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fighting is the one I'm mainly worried of though since it's shared between the tera and non-tera typings, and might be something a valiant clicks

forest magnet
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also in sun its much for powerfull

forest magnet
weak verge
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that does seem like a very nice change, the ground immunity will sure come in handy

forest magnet
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oops i forgot to swap h-cane for u-turn on moltres

spiral fable
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nah hcane in sun they'll never expect it

forest magnet
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i also made moon a dedicated trapper

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bc your idea of a pivot is kinda bad

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bc its a faster pokemon

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so its gonna get its allies hit

forest magnet
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but i'm just warning don't expect great results

weak verge
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it's an improvement for sure

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if you're replacing u-turn on moon, should it perhaps run shed shell? so that you don't get fucked over by a good switch from them

forest magnet
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no need for over kill

weak verge
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ok

forest magnet
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they are locked in w you

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not u locked in with them

weak verge
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no it's both

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lol

fierce basin
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@weak verge i would consider making your roaring moon dd/taunt/jaw lock/roost if you dont find success with earthquake. maximum matchup fish since with mono attack jaw lock you aren't gonna kill stuff like iron valiant even at +6, but it lets you 1v1 mons like dozo and uturn-less corv, and can stop moltres from wisping you and force it to u-turn out if it switches in on your jaw lock (since yes it does trap both of you.) I'd also get rid of the speed and just max hp. If you get tired of trying to make it work in OU, it's a pretty real mon in AAA due to fluffy, but it runs physdef. gl

weak verge
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thank you ❤️

obsidian fable
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the team lowk cooks tho

deep fractal
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https://pokepast.es/24d1f9c2989504ad
can i get thoughts on this team currently sitting at 1727 elo with this team want to know if you guys can help me improve it also i would like to know if you got any good name suggestions for the team

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rose hinge
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idea is to spread para

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and lay webs

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but webs never works so idk

forest magnet
rose hinge
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yeah

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i figured lol

forest magnet
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court change cinderace kills things

rose hinge
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yeh

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im thinking nuzzle hatterene

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with eject button to pivot in hoopa maybe

deep fractal
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then when they dont get webs normally it destroys the team

rose hinge
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yeah ive had more success para spreading

deep fractal
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with static or discharge?

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or both

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i personally like using heat wave on zap

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its nice for gambit and 10% for burn on it

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or 30% for static

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  • rocky helm chip
rose hinge
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thunder waves from slowking and zapdos

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and idk about gambit cos i have tusk

deep fractal
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yeah you run imp set i run a av set which doesnt deal with gambit much

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but i would love for gambit to get banned

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it muscles past dozo sometimes

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they amount of games i have lost being 4 mons up then losing to fallen 5 gambit is slightly enraging

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@rose hinge alsoyour team seems a bit weak to dragapult which is a pretty common option

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tera dragon + darts seem lethal especially when band

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great tusk will probably survive 3 hits

rose hinge
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im pretty sure curse pult is the most common se

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plus like i replaced masq with hatt

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i can nuzzle

deep fractal
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ok thats good

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when you use your team does struggle offensively?

rose hinge
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no hoopa explodes everything

deep fractal
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fair

rose hinge
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the only problem is trying to keep a good level of speed control

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mainly prio

deep fractal
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i just feel like tusk doesnt need to be bulk

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your team already seems defensively sound

rose hinge
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then gambit cooks at fallen 5

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and cinderace too

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cos they run blaze pyroball

deep fractal
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yeah gambit needs a ban

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how much does iron head +2 do to tusk?

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jesus 40-48

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and if it tera fly then thats justtrouble

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maybe ice spinner?

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yeah you can beat tera fly 1 on 1 if you get reasonable rolls with ice spinner

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3HKO

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and so is iron head but your faster

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and with not horrible rolls you can live the sucker punch which is 17-20

forest magnet
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maybe made it a tr team

hexed plover
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Hey

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I need help with two teams

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I cant rank over 1500+

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I have trouble with many cores, and is not enougth strong

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hexed plover
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Could you recommend any very good team to rank?

rose hinge
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cb hoopa team bluds need some help

spiral fable
forest magnet
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but i'll just make some changes

rose hinge
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ye i didnt rlly know what to do when u said just make it tr

forest magnet
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tr means trick room

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its really good for slower mons that have alot of power

rose hinge
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ik

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but how do i reformat the team to trick room

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like what do i change

forest magnet
forest magnet
rose hinge
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oh srry

forest magnet
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i'll explain the changes if needed

forest magnet
rose hinge
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that would help

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if u explained

forest magnet
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well hoopa, ursaluna and kingambit are all really slow

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so, under trickroom is really fast

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and its strong hits + going first are really strong

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cress is your trick room setter + screens

rose hinge
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lunar dance just to pivot right?

forest magnet
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  • it heals the pokemon back to full
forest magnet
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just diff matchups

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also amoong is a pivot

rose hinge
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whats the speed for on hatt?

forest magnet
forest magnet
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here fixed

rose hinge
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same for luna and cress

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is it to outspeed like random stuff before a tr

forest magnet
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fixed again

rose hinge
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np

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ok thanks i appreciate it

fervent bluff
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Thinking of putting hurricane in place of U-Turn on Moltres to hit Tera Grass Heatran and to hit Tusk for SE

forest magnet
forest magnet
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just swapped out chomp 4 tusk and swapped zoro for pult

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more consistent

fervent bluff
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I have been considering switching out zoroark, the ghost immunity is nice but I think smth else would be better

forest magnet
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grass heat is dealt with banded meow

forest magnet
fervent bluff
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Zoro

forest magnet
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nice core alr so thats pretty good building

fervent bluff
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Ty, I'm still skeptical about switching chomp, dragon tail has been really useful

forest magnet
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if u wanna keep dragon tail

fervent bluff
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Oh yeah I forgot ting lu gets whirlwind

forest magnet
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(ting lu has whirlwhind)

forest magnet
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but i feel like tusk is better

fervent bluff
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I might try treads instead of tusk

severe shard
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Treads isn’t really worth it on regular OU teams

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It’s more used on rain teams for the most part

still citrus
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Tatsugiri knows rapid spin

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That’s crazy

hardy basin
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thoughts on good defensive cores
so if ever i field slowbro and ferrothorn what would i use to make the defense ironclad? cuz i see a huge problem who's named swords dance garchomp
like, aside from hitting it with something faster, what can theoretically take a hit before u turning outta there to pivot into something safer?

hexed plover
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Hey

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I have a problem

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How can beat offensive tusk and annoyer pult with this team?

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I see these everywhere

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hexed plover
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I dont have really switch in tusk

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If i terastalize to water type my mando can trake 2HKO fron close combat/ headlong rush

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So It is very dificult save lando

spiral fable
hexed plover
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I dont know

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Its a sample team

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I found It in smogon

spiral fable
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If this is a sample team idk why you’re asking for a team rating here

hexed plover
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Becaude i think its weak

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Ir It must be improved to rank

spiral fable
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This isn’t even a sample team what

hexed plover
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What?

spiral fable
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There’s only one team running ace and it’s not yours

hexed plover
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It is pokeaimmd 's team

spiral fable
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From where

hexed plover
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Pokeaimmd posted his teams in a website

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Search it

spiral fable
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Mf there’s like 50 teams here

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Aight whatever if you’re often struggling with tusk and pult scarf enamorus could be your best bet

hexed plover
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And what member must go to put enamorus?

spiral fable
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Probably sneasler but now that I’m looking at this team you’re also missing hazards, and your only hazard “remover” is ace

hexed plover
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Yeah

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And It lacks a Sr setter

spiral fable
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Yes, hazards

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You can run rocks on lando

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But honestly at that point just run tusk

hexed plover
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Yeah but then i cant touch corvy/ dondozo

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You see?

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Is very inconsistent

spiral fable
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Corv: ace

hexed plover
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Gkink?

spiral fable
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Galarian slowking

hexed plover
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Yeah the problem isnt the mons, the problem is that these Mons wear teammates

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And can protect from its threats

spiral fable
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…

spiral fable
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You want a way to handle the defensive mons

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You have a way to handle the defensive mons

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Also, Rotom wash

hexed plover
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And sub lando isnt really usefull

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Because pult

spiral fable
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Yes which is why I’m saying swap it for tusk

hexed plover
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Yeah

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Peobably is a better choice for the team

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But then how could i beat defensive Mons?

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Lando is the " wallbraker"

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Trick with sneasler but isnt enougth many times

spiral fable
hexed plover
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I said a stall team

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I really dont know

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Its effective only in a few times really

spiral fable
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Tusk can hit clod and blissey, wash handles corv mola dozo pex

hexed plover
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Ajam

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Full def tusk?

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Or offensive?

spiral fable
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Up to you

forest magnet
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spiral fable
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Actually most of these sets are wack

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Idk why Brick break is on volcanion

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Curse over iron defense on garg

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Probably cc and another move(either bug stab or a dark move) on scizor instead of Tera and trailblaze

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Yeah just replace muk it’s not worth

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Idk what it’s doing

warm sequoia
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I don't like screens that's why

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I'm just trying to figure out what to put over muk. Tera poison cresselia has been working out. I'll consider putting cc on Val over brick break

forest magnet
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@warm sequoia

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sets where a bit wonky, i replaced muk for corv

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it works well with your core rn

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also give hazard removal

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changed some sets

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https://pokepast.es/14e03e294c209ef3 I am liking this team a lot, but I feel like dragapult could use something other than psychic fangs, why is the standard double-edge, what does that 1/2hko that it can't already?

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also, not sure what pex targets with ice beam/infestation so I have it reducing enemy speed instead, haven't teraed it since giving it AV so it might need a diff tera type

forest magnet
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team is pretty weak to things like zapdos and shocks bc u have no ele switchin, Make pult specs bc u alr have banded meow + no (strong) spa attackers

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  • also smaller changes
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here is the team with all my changes, i can explain them if needed

dry edge
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Not sure that works, too weak to hazards

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and no hazards of your own

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ty!!

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I sweep with power trip corv a lot but guess I could probably win anyway when corv walls everything they have left alive 🤔

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I would like to use a good volturn

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With good def pivots and good breakers and sweepers

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# velvet path https://pokepast.es/e554b0bfc8e4e148

Hi I think the team is pretty cool, it reminds me of team germany from wcop but with minor changes.

I’d definitely would recommend trying Baxcalibur>Walking Wake here as it compliments well with Galar Slowking with Chilly Reception + Ice Body. Bax rn is a strong presence in current ladder so you can run between Swords Dance 3 attacks Life Orb or Substitute + Dragon Dance with leftovers.

GKing I’d try to put 16 SpDef with Sassy nature (248 hp 244 def 16 spdef) or just add spdef evs to this + make it sassy as rain is very potent rn with mons like Greninja/Basculegion F being used frequently. For Moltres you could try to go Phys def> Special def as you have amoonguss + gking to take special hits from mons like Washtom/Valiant + I’d also try running Hurricane>flamethrower to hit mons such as tusk/bax harder. Kinggambit I’d go Tera blast>Iron Head seeing as you’re fairy tera type and if you can.

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ty

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So im very new to the competative ladder but ive been running this HO team with moderate (but not great) results

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I feel like there are a few pokemon here that dont do a lot for the team. Zamentza feels a little odd. I tried running it with double screens and that tended to feel too passive, while this current offensive set doesn't feel great either.

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Cress feels incredibly situational where either I get off a weakness policy and a calm mind and it solo's or it is useless

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Enamorus feels decent but i should probably run draining kiss not moonblast and also i feel like i never get the chance to press agility

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finally bax feels pretty lack luster but that may be due to its lack of support in the form of a Glowking

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this is my team

spiral fable
sly mauve
forest magnet
# minor yarrow https://pokepast.es/c192a44f94711b41

maybe make screens on pult, leftover on cres, swap enamorus for iron val, swap t-bolt on shocks for volt-switch for more mommentum, and change tera on zama for eletric, make bax sd bc its better for immedate power

forest magnet
minor yarrow
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I tried a variation where I dropped Zama for kingambit. Do you think it's a good idea to keep Zama or should I replace him?

forest magnet
minor yarrow
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Ok

forest magnet
minor yarrow
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Ok

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I think I understand screens on pult but when do I press curse?

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I also like the idea of adding Scizor do you think I could drop something for it?

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Also head smash instead of phantom force/liquidation on bascu

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spiral fable
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I would say treads

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I don’t really see the point of hazard removal when you want to be abusing your rain turns instead

forest magnet
minor yarrow
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when do i want that?

forest magnet
forest magnet
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wake gives 4x resist to water + fire. replaced amoong for it bc mroe firepower

minor yarrow
forest magnet
minor yarrow
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So after dealing with tusk and the like?

strong vapor
forest magnet
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also rocks resist

strong vapor
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No stealth rockers sadly?

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But Iron threads is ok in this team?

forest magnet
forest magnet
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changed treads set

minor yarrow
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In one game I immediately griefed my bascu away and lost my wake to a stupid tera I should have seen coming.

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But knock off on treads was clutch

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Getting knockoff on ursaluna is so big

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fixed it up

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pretty good team alr, just changed the spreads and sets of the mons.

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reminds me of the german bax team

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av tusk is a bit weird

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I was on the fence between a leftover and use tusk as a set up and switching Sam out completely

severe shard
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It’s a nice team even if you’re rusty ngl

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But ya for tusk you always usually wanna run lefties, sometimes you’d get booster but on more offensive teams such as Sun or HO and rarely Rocky Helmet

autumn igloo
sly mauve
forest magnet
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cyclizar isn't very good on this team as it doesn't provide anything really needed (only thing is hazard removal)

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also weird set on the dragapult.

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i made some changes, cress offers much more bulk to this team.

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Steel beam helps it so treads loses half hp, so once you set rocks up and see no use for treads you let it faint so that you keep rocks up + not have any spinners such as tusk come in to take it out.

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  • pretty weak to stall as there is no really strong wall breaker
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maybe run sub over flamethrower on wake

velvet path
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what else should i change

hexed plover
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Hey i need one advice

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Its better sd set in this tean

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Or mixed set

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This team lacks a fiable wallbraker

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King is easy Walled by dozo

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I know that its a sample team

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But i thing lacks something

forest magnet
forest magnet
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my advice is to use sandy shocks, gholdengo, encore valiant, and walking wake as they all have good matchups vs dondozo

hexed plover
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Its not lol

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Vs stall its too easy walls my team

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Sandy and gold= blissey/ clod

severe shard
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What you posted was a sample though

velvet path
severe shard
hexed plover
forest magnet
hexed plover
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Biut i think this team needs a wallbraker

forest magnet
hexed plover
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Why?

velvet path
forest magnet
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rate-MY-team

hexed plover
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Ok

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Can i Talk there?

forest magnet
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@severe shard please deal with them

forest magnet
hexed plover
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They not lol

forest magnet
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just go there

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if you need help with gameplan

hexed plover
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Yeah thanks

severe shard
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forest magnet
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!sample

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yay

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https://pokepast.es/f3c6564d0517de74
I wanted to see how Surge Surfer did, but I notice my team is very weak to ground. Unsure what aux team members I wanted alongside Raichu and the Terrain Setter.

severe shard
# steady heath https://pokepast.es/5fb8bcfd512379ae

Hi I think the team is pretty cool ngl, just a few things I’d like to help add here. For one I think ting lu should be careful nature + here to help tank hits from any special hitters since it has the phys bulk already to tank phys hitters.
I would definitely try to swap out Meow>Great Tusk as you don’t have any way to spin out hazards on this team + it can also knock off, so something such as eq, knock, spin, and a filler like ice spinner/bulk up water/steel tera can do well here.
For Moltres you could potentially run hurricane over u turn here as you’re tera water which I think could help vs rain teams currently + it can help ohko mons such as tusk and be able to hit ace/samurott better.
Lastly, for Dondozo I’d definitely try to give Avalanche + Body Press Rest Talk (Fighting Tera) for dozo here as it helps deal with strong phys hitters like gambit/Baxcalibur + being able to hit fliers with Avalanche is always helpful with Enamorus around.

forest magnet
severe shard
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🤔 oh is that a sample? 💀

forest magnet
severe shard
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Mhm

forest magnet
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not theirs

severe shard
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Unfortunate :^)

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Despite being a Ctc team I felt it did need some change in it for sure

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Tusk>Meow for one feels great in this

forest magnet
severe shard
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Since you get knock + hazard removal in one which the team lacks half of that

forest magnet
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but the thing is that its very zapdos/shocks weak

severe shard
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Ya I’ve noticed the weakness a bit

forest magnet
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i know this bc i peaked with this team

severe shard
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I’ve considered changing the ting lu from running no sr and have tusk run sr and give it rest over it

forest magnet
severe shard
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Mhm

forest magnet
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thundrus isn't gonna be able to setup terrain prob more than once as its really frail + hazards

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random tusk is kinda weird for a HO looking team, becomes a momentum sink

severe shard
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How does pult over dnite sound on this + garg>Dondozo 🤔

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Also thought about scarfing dengo

forest magnet
severe shard
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Maybe we’d be too weak to water mayhaps

forest magnet
severe shard
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Mhm

forest magnet
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dozo glues the team together

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phys setup threats

severe shard
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I see

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Maybe the team shouldn’t be touched then ngl

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Meow knock + hazards is cool, hazard removal was my only concern ngl

forest magnet
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on the games i lost it was to hazard stack + strong breakers

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bc boots where off etc...

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also ting gets weared down too fast

severe shard
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It does

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It’s awkward rn

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But decent at the same time

forest magnet
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@steady heath please don't post teams that you didn't make or that are well known alr

steady heath
forest magnet
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if you need help on using a team, go to comp gen

steady heath
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Sorry dint know

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Alr sorry

forest magnet
forest magnet
steady heath
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What are ur thoughts

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Been really struggling with wake mf just exist

forest magnet
steady heath
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Alr

sly mauve
forest magnet
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like baxcalibur over wake

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tusk is kinda a momentum sink too

sly mauve
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wake is the main thing i wanted to use

forest magnet
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especally with screens

sly mauve
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FUCK

forest magnet
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just swap moth for somthing else

sly mauve
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u said tusk is a momentum killer

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ur worrying me

forest magnet
sly mauve
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ok so how do i deal with hazards

forest magnet
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or maybe maushold

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bc cinderace gets rid of ur screens

sly mauve
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no way im using maushold

forest magnet
forest magnet
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bud got no hazards

sly mauve
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i do have screens

sly mauve
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i really need u to enlighten me here i dont see how i can use wake screens while dealing with hzards

forest magnet
forest magnet
sly mauve
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okay

forest magnet
sly mauve
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i have not seen a sandy shocks in a long time thank you

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maybe its dead bcs of hamurott

forest magnet
forest magnet
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cool nicknames tho

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i mean i can see counterplay for it

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like get rid of a mon to chip it down/get rid of its sash

surreal bloom
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maushold!

forest magnet
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balance team, having some problems with dragapult

weary crypt
forest magnet
surreal bloom
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over gking

acoustic pelican
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not quite sure what i was coming up with here

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want mew to shine with some sort of semi-stall

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my main concern is somehow hiding my ass against special attackers since those are hard to switch into and also bulky

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been playing with sample teams for a while now, not only do i suck at pokemon but also i'm usually left confused at what to do when certain special attackers switch in

quartz prism
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This is my first time building a team I m trying to go for a status bulk team that slowly but surely whittles away at the other team

red light
sly mauve
real willow
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U just put a VGC team but this is for rating OU teams

real willow
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When you're sacrificing a mon to get hazards down, you want them to last as long as possible

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Seems like Basculegion just spams Wave Crash with Tera Water

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There aren't "real" replacements for Urshifu and Pao atm

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And Nite is hit or miss on rain since it won't benefit from the water moves

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Yeah do that

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Best Urshifu replacement is Walking Wake

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Although Banded Basculegion does a good job of abusing Rain on its own

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Idt Nite fits on rain here

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It'll just thud into Corv

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Make it CB

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Trick Room is less common in OU

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And one of the common setters is Hatterene who ignores Dragon Tail anyway

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Run Specs

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Either Specs or Agility are fine

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Those are two different Walking Wake sets

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Either are fine on rain

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Dragonite you'll have to get rid of

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And tbh Overqwil is kinda dubious

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You also need a Stealth Rock setter

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Probably just something like Clodsire

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Eats up Zapdos attacks and sets up Rocks while throwing out Toxic

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And if you make Peli physdef then it can be a decent check to Great Tusk

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Go EQ > Tblast

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Water absorb

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Recover > Haze

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And leftovers

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Tho Boots aren't bad either

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Dark

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Max HP Max Def Bold/Relaxed

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Surf/Hurricane/Roost/U-turn

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That's why you have Clodsire

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Also your EV investment doesn't help you against special attacks either

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Tera Water or Tera Ground seem to be most common

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Alternatively

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Sure

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Your ground type could be Landorus Therian

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An alternative to Clodsire

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I'll go over it later

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What's ur team atm?

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Pokepaste

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U still have LR on Bascu

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And you don't want Protect on it either

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Fine

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That works

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Absolute beast of a set

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Most of your offense is just Water types

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Which kinda gets annoyed by WA Clod

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And Amoongus

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My instinct says Zapdos but it's not as effective into Clod

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Eject Button Hatterene is useful actually

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It has Magic Bounce to bounce back Toxic, Stealth Rock, Spore, etc

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But can also be used as a free pivot into Basculegion or Wake

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Honestly

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Overqwil really should be Kingambit

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It's better in nearly every way

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Ye

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Nuzzle is also fine since MFire will get nerfed in the rain

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Can also be Calm Mind

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If you want it to be a threat after Ejecting out

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But that's a bit fancy

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I agree

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It won't do that much tbh

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Like ur team wants insurance vs Dragapult

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Also that defensive set wants Intimidate

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So that it can wear down opposing threats

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Which is antithetical to the way rain plays

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I know you want to make Overqwil work

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But offensively it's overshadowed by Kingambit

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And defensively it won't fit on this team

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Part of it is that it doesn't benefit from the Rain boost as much since it doesn't have STAB on Rain boosted Water moves

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You have better mons that want to Tera

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Only set I see it using

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Is SD

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Which is outclassed by Kingambit

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Swords Dance

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Kingambit solves a lot of your issues very nicely tbh

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Other options are like

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Greninja

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Yes

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Up to u

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Kingambit's item is pretty customizable

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If you wanted a fighting type I'd tell you to use Zamazenta

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No

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An alternative variant of this team has Landorus Therian

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Which is more offensive and a better pivot in comparison to Clodsire

# 
Ability: Intimidate
EVs: 252 HP / 248 SpD / 8 Spe
Tera Type: Water
Careful Nature
- Earthquake
- U-turn
- Stealth Rock
- Taunt/Grass Knot/Smack Down
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This one is specially defensive so that it can take hits from that side of the spectrum

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Though I'm not 100% sure how well it'll do

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Sure

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Gl

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Fwiw

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Solid

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Fwiw Overqwil functions better with Lando as your Ground vs Clodsire

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Since they won't stack Ground weaknesses

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In comparison to Clodsire + Oqwil

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Yes

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Ability: Swift Swim
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Tera Type: Water
Adamant Nature
- Swords Dance
- Gunk Shot
- Crunch
- Liquidation
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The Overqwil set that you might run

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Kingambit doesn't use Defiant in OU

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It uses Supreme Overlord

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Plus it has better defensive typing and bulk

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No

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Defiant activates when one of its stats is dropped

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Status =/= stats

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Status = burn/para

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Stats = Intimidate, Defog

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No

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In doubles probably

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Not in singles

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Unless you sticky web/stat dropping move into a magic bounce Pokemon

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Yeah

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Also Galarian Zapdos exists

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Who completely outclasses Flamigo

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Even fewer have used Flamigo

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Exactly

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Both aren't good

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Yes

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  1. If the mon isn't something super bulky (like Dragapult), then Tera Water Wave Crash will melt it
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  1. If the mon is something bulkier like Pex, then that's free real estate for your Grounds to set up Rocks
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If their lead is glimmora then ko it with Peli most likely

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Cuz attacking w/ Clod will give it free Tspikes

quartz prism
solid sinew
forest magnet
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i was zzzzz

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thanks for the help

quartz prism
real willow
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Tbh I should've been asleep ad well

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and swap gold for a spd wall because one layer of rocks isn't worth it to have gold on the team.

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maybe somthing like slowking g bc that helps bax out

acoustic pelican
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SV OU

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oh wait it's in channel name. whoops. used to having to write it

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considering tera-poison on gren

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and switching him to protean

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Libero

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Also really iffy about scizor and boom

mossy pelican
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i really like boom

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terrain and leech seed fr be getting half my team back to full

spiral fable
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no sd on gambit is kinda bad and idk what scizor is doing there

livid glade
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Based off of Aurora veil bulky bax as a sweeper, thoughts and tips? I'm like mid ladder

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spiral fable
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idk why your evs are so weird

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are they all specially calced to live something or

livid glade
spiral fable
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just run 252 252 4 for them

livid glade
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Shocks EVs is for the speed Boost booster energy

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Dozo is more offensive

spiral fable
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alright thats fair but you should run 48 hp instead of 44 defense and 4 spdef

livid glade
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Abomasnow can live mystical fire from enamorus

livid glade
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Is 11 hp that beneficial

spiral fable
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better in most situations than a split of def and spdef

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also not sure about hisuian decidueye

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and just run full bulk dozo even if its offensive you'd rather have the bulk to set up and take more hits

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especially since you dont have rest

livid glade
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I might run 252 252 spdef hp

spiral fable
livid glade
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To take on special attacker

spiral fable
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hisuian decidueye really aint it

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if you want a hazard remover just run tusk

livid glade
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What should I replace it with

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Eh

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What are mons that can remove hazards with priority