#[DO NOT USE][ARCHIVED] SV OU Rates

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rain gyro
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if you want a funny tusk spread

paper crater
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i don't remember why i did 144 in particular

rain gyro
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you can do 4 speed tusk

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because then you hit 211

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which with 2 rapid spins, becomes 422

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which outspeeds dragapult

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something like this does seem rather very funny

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but then again

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don't trust me

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lol!

ruby crest
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?

rain gyro
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but truth be told i am

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extremely clueless

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and need aid

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lol!

ruby crest
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this looks somewhat identical to the one @severe shard made that was featured in a youtube vid

rain gyro
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lmao

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including spreads or what?

paper crater
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i guess it's pretty generic

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including the sets for each mon?

ruby crest
paper crater
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could u link the video

ruby crest
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tho theres a corv > tusk and clod > dirge

paper crater
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ic

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paper crater
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tyy

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is expert belt valiant really worth it

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i didn't think the 10% increase was

rain gyro
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20% increase

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it's an underrated item imo if you don't wanna run LO

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on setup mons

paper crater
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oh is it 1.2

rain gyro
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yeah it's 1.2

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pulsar geyser
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Most creative psyspam team

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dry edge
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Or is that a typo?

fiery sapphire
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Thunder cage?

ruby crest
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You have Elekis sig instead of twave

dry edge
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Yeah, prolly a mistake

fiery sapphire
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There

dry edge
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A different tera on Tusk could be helpful

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Not really sure what Fighting helps with here

ruby crest
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Tbf tusk Tera are a bit dated in sniffed since fighting is still on a lot when water and other Teras are seen more often

fiery sapphire
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Alright, anything else I may need to change?

cobalt sluice
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how is this for a doubles team

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cobalt sluice
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is there a thread for doubles

subtle rose
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Yes

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DOU = doubles ou

cobalt sluice
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thank you

sly mauve
subtle rose
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lead spiker + cchange ace but u have no rocks is worrywhirl

sly mauve
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ik

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having no rocks is a huge downside

solid sinew
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Could always do sash glimm over meow

subtle rose
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but like

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not on this team

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just do rocks tusk and team becomes significantly better

solid sinew
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Well yes the team has some structural issues imo

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It's not HO but it doesn't have survivability

sly mauve
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honestly meow has been helpful

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its been able to keep up spikes for most of the game

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its mostly me just putting up a lot of u-turns

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to keep prio after meow is sacked

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valiant is the only mon i really dislike on the team due to its lack of switch move

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lowkey thinking about going scarf noivern

solid sinew
sly mauve
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switch moves help alot

solid sinew
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Tbh do you really need scarf valiant? You have pult + first impression prio

sly mauve
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no

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i reall dislike valiant

red citrus
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yo help me out w this team. i really like lokix but i have a hard time dealing with moonblast spams n stuff

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@ruby crest help me out gng

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red citrus
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sorry but whats cinder wisp? (im dumb and new)

ruby crest
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Basically bulky pivot ace

red citrus
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gotchu

ruby crest
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There’s other things that could be tweak but gotta go so can’t go in depth for other stuff but having more hazard control goes a long way for cab lokix

red citrus
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ight bet thank you tho

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# muted dirge https://pokepast.es/22ce6b19d4e4dcae rate

This is really solid overall Ada > jolly on baxc, Tera fairy > steel on spdef wash, Tera water > fairy on tail (still a bit iffy on this here could be an iron Val but I guess it works here), sr tusk and Tera water, and Tera fire on gambit

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sly mauve
muted dirge
sly mauve
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true
should i replace it with smth that deals with pult?

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like meows or kingambit

muted dirge
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Gambit wont be too bad of a pick. But I think this team needs a pivot

sly mauve
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meowscarada has uturn

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and it also provides knock off

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for hdb users

muted dirge
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Maybe something like

spdef Rotom-W/Scarada > Corvi

And maybe Ting Lu over Garchomp if you're feeling unsure about some matchups

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The Ting lu suggestion is optimal

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Think Chomp isn't that bad there

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But spdef Rotom/Pivot scarada over corvi. I would def do that

sly mauve
muted dirge
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and me personally I prefer HDB over Orb on scarada

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Gives much better hazard control on that team

sly mauve
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wait should i put rocks over knock off on tusk

muted dirge
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nah BU tusk doesn't run Rocks

sly mauve
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oh ok

muted dirge
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And I think Iron head Moon Might be better over Eq

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Incase you face Tera fairy Dirge

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And change moons tera type to steel

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To help with your fairy MU in general

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# strange summit https://pokepast.es/9c7d84b2135dd373. Pretty formulaic team, I'm not sure about ...

tera fire> flying on gambit, sub hex pult > specs, go tera water on tusk and invest 56 speed evs into which at +1 gives you the jump to be faster then non boosted sandy shocks and garchomp, while +2 makes you faster then scarf washer and glimmora, spdef rotom-w wants tera fairy a lot of times, cinderace with wisp > volcarona, and red card amoong > breloom Final Version: https://pokepast.es/cde8243296aba63e

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sly mauve
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and make it terra fairy

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hattaren should deal with most valiant sets

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steady breach
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I used to have Clodsire instead of Amoongus

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i needed the water resist

steady breach
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changed it back to Clod cause Iron Moth just OHKO's everything

rain gyro
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Garganacl can probably deal with moth

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Same with moon but it can only RQ

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ruby crest
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, for iron Val first two moves should be moonblast and psyshock last two moves can be hella customizable and what you want it to do shadow ball to smack ghost, knock for more utility, focus blast or cc for strong stabs, or destiny bond you don’t really need tbolt here as much since your entire team just overwhelms Corv

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Also you can do Tera dragon on pult prefer if a lot more these days to spam powerful Dracos and also optional can also go modest for more fire power

spark bolt
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thank you!

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weary crypt
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i got a lot of wacko shit on here, i wanna keep the kingambit set as is cause its cool and would prefer to keep cryagonal cause its funny and the best walking wake counter

odd depot
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And king really specializes is revenge killing.

odd depot
daring violet
# weary crypt https://pokepast.es/484c1970a103afdd

i dont think cry is viable, that kingambit set isn't viable either. what does cry bring to the table? id go with standard gambit 252 att / 252 speed black glasses cleave, sucker, low kick / iron head, swords dance

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speed control would be a nice replacement for cry i think

weary crypt
muted dirge
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Pex doesn’t really do much back

weary crypt
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but this is funnier

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whatever you guys just dont share the vision

muted dirge
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Essentially your gambit is only useful for a very odd and specific match up

wanton root
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@ruby crest how's this

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# wanton root https://pokepast.es/fd18d68b1caf67a2

Uhhh you can do scarf glimmora toxic corrosion tbh > iron moth still gives you another status and a way to absorb t spikes and secondary speed control as well, Tera water on tail, fairy on washer, fairy on pult, steel on tusk and go enough speed for iron moth after a spin for

odd depot
odd depot
weary crypt
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💀

tired arrow
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copper nexus
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Im more of a shiny hunter normally dogkek

red citrus
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ruby crest
random sable
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What's covert

ruby crest
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Covert cloak

frail ether
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should I run Hatterene over Valiant?

ruby crest
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Are you going for ho/offense here or something else?

frail ether
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i mean I usually prefer bulky offense, but i guess ho if it would allow me to have Kingambit, Dragonite and Volcarona on the same team

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like thru playtesting idk if this is a skill issu

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but like

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how do I describe this

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I feel like I just can't make openings

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like idk I know I can use Volcarona for Corviknight but my opponent has a baxcalibur still alive so like it's either I guess he does that so I switch into Valiant to hard read him

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but because I'm specs he will just go into toxapex on the moonblast

ruby crest
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Cause bo is possible tho will require one to many changes tbh especially how heavily offensive this team be rn

frail ether
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like I know the purpose of each team member, I didn't just slap them on for no reason, Ting Lu for hazards, Iron Valiant for fighting types, trick Gholdengo

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etc

frail ether
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also replacing Will-O-Wisp for Giga Drain on Volcarona

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I mean I'm down for BO or HO too

ruby crest
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The main thing is maintain the first three mons no?

frail ether
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yeah just cuz I like them

ruby crest
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We’ll go max atk and max speed on gambit Tera dark lum berry, you can do bulky encore dnite here, offense Tera ground volc, ting Lu whirl can set multiple hazards is slightly passive for ho since it doesn’t prevent or remove hazards or have a way to keep momentum for the team, hence since we have volc here we can do lead glimmora in its place since it can be a great lead and anti lead while a grounded poison to absorb opposing tspikes, covert np dengo > scarf, and cm ghost iron Val > specs

frail ether
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also thx a whole lot

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also do I wanna run Shadow Ball on this Tera Ghost Valiant

ruby crest
ruby crest
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You drop tbolt

frail ether
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I assume Gholdengo is the Dondozo out then?

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either that or just clicking moonblast

ruby crest
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Donzo out?

frail ether
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yeah I hear Dondozo is p good against ho/bo

ruby crest
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Never heard the tears like that but yeah well your main way to pressure is encore from dnite and overwhelm it with volc and iron val it’s an annoying mu at the end of the day

frail ether
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👌

copper nexus
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Mainly as i hear doubles can be more fun than singles strategy wise

real willow
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Better go here for rate

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random sable
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im trying to run setup toxtricity

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the stored poweris supposed to be snarl

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idk why it didnt change

olive haven
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wanted to make scizor viable in OU, it has a strong niche as a pivot and a counter to fast frail threats (OHKOing Valiant and Baxcalibur, and even Dragapult after a Tera, and U-Turn is incredible against lead Meowscarada). Paired with Rotom-Wash to make a VoltTurn core for Valiant and Baxcalibur, and it can check Great Tusk. My own Great Tusk is a strong threat in its own right with hazard removal un afraid of Gholdengho, and it’s a ground type with knock off support. Kingambit is just incredible and provides support against ghost types

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Wash and Valiant get rid of stuff like Tusk that can check Scizor, and Scizor gets rid of fast threats in return

fallow crag
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This is pretty similar to a lot of common structures rn

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I think eject pack on tusk would be good to give you some added pivoting

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You honestly would probably get more value out of boots on bax with tera dragon

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For tusk as well, a bulkier spread would probably be better

static crow
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been using this balance team focused around weakening the team and pivoting until i can get into valiant safely and clean, but having ace as my only hazard removal makes things difficult, expecially when hazard stacking from ting lu and blocking removal with ghold is so helpful late-game. ive been trying to find a good hazard remover that synergizes well (im trying to keep val and ghold on the final team) any advice?

https://pokepast.es/743d2a9e7bb205eb

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# static crow been using this balance team focused around weakening the team and pivoting unti...

fwiw this team is a lot closer to bo then balance assuming you are fine with it, i would say a really simple change of physdef tusk with rocks gives you that secondary hazard control you are looking for and frees up a move from ting-lu on having both hazards which lets you run rest in it which would be beneficial for it to remain healthy throughout a match. Great tusk is going to be tera water and would recommend investing about 96 speed which allows you to outspeed non boosted iron moth after a spin, spdef washer usually wants tera fairy and twave a lot more, dengo should be covert to better deal with garganacl a lot better and recover > focus blast since you have great tusk here your gambit mu is a lot better, lastly for iron val i would suggest scarf for much needed speed control while also still maintaining wincon or annoyance for the opposing side to trick something that could be beneficial for dengo, as for moves go i would say moonblast focus blast trick, and last moves is honestly customizable whatever you want more coverage as psyshock to hit pex clod, tbolt for corv and non tera dozo, or even dbond to catch a threat and remove them with yo, while knock is good as always, its really up to you and what you want iron val to do

static crow
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cool, was considering tusk for a spinner but didnt know what to swap out, thank you so much for the input

ruby crest
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i will say this tho

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volc mu does become slightly annoying

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i def wouldve preffed a pult > dengo here but since you wanted to maintain it, so its all good tho

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outer cradle
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this is a knightly themed team

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i know it's rough

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that's why i'm asking for some help

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i technically have gotten some wins with it

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so i mean it kinda worked so

ruby crest
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fwiw we dont rate themed teams and also would imagine this saw some type of success in low ladder, i have changes in mind and tweak the sets of the team cause these are just mediocre or not good but its up to you

outer cradle
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shoot

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i was just winging this honestly

static crow
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if you dont want to change any of the pokemon, some of the sets can be reworked

outer cradle
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i can imagine 💀

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i didn't exactly believe in the power of power trip corv myself

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i should stop messing around and make valiant spatk like a normal person

static crow
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going down the list:

chesnaught is ok
double dance doesnt really work for a balance mon like corv, especially when both are raising attack. id probably remove hone claws for either u-turn or brave bird. you could run hdb but corv doesnt really care about rocks and is immune to spikes, so leftovers are probably better, especially if you wanna run brave bird. mirror armor is an ok ability but stat-lowering is rare, so pressure will probably be more beneficial to help against pokemon with recovery moves. finally id probably change tera type to water to better your mu with incoming fire types, which can allow you an extra bu or roost
arma is also fine, only glaring change id make is swap expanding force for psyshock to improve mu against pex and clod
val is ok, i prefer mixed but its so versatile you can do either. drain ppunch is also ok but val is so frail that cc is probably better for max damage output
gambit is ok
i dont understand the set on ting lu, why eq and stomping tantrum? id probably lean towards a more support/defense set with whirlwind and ruination over bp and st

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sorry for big wall of text lol

sly mauve
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help

static crow
outer cradle
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oh thank you

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saved me like 20 mintues

outer cradle
static crow
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oh youre right, forgot to put spiky shield on, sorry about that

outer cradle
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oh ok lol

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well seeing as how i'm getting wrecked by a damn sun team

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i don't think this team will get me anywhere

wanton root
daring violet
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dengo > decid for spike stacking

wanton root
daring violet
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you can go with a nasty plot set

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encore

wanton root
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@ruby crest scream always wants encore right

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or am I tripping

daring violet
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always is wild

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for something thats not even ou

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but yeah whatever you want

wanton root
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I just wanted to check bc im pretty sure ive seen him say that before

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also what do I do about the tusk mu if I drop decid

daring violet
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tusk vs bulk up tusk

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if you scout out body press / close combat go to ting and whirlwind out

wanton root
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interesting

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never actually seen that interaction before

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sounds cool

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daring violet
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id go choice specs pult (timid) for some hard special hitting

dry edge
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You could also try ID > Defog, something like Bulk Up Great Tusk looks really problematic long term. No much need to go minus Speed and 0 Speed IVs nature on Corvi tbh, handling (and for which you need to outspeed) bulky Kingambit is a nicer trait than a slow U-turn I feel

stray vessel
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thanks i’ll try out those changes 👍

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astral crane
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forget that the levels are all 50

daring violet
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Eq > body press on nacl. Tera type on nacl should be water. I think go calm mind > close combat on valiant

daring violet
astral crane
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tusk replacement

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thats all

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idk what else to add besides that

daring violet
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Tusk is on the team

young chasm
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random sable
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If your running max speed rotom you probably want to run scarf trick

young chasm
astral crane
young chasm
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im not a professional, but why close combat instead of aura sphere?

ruby crest
# young chasm offense, sorry it took me so long to respond

okie then so i would recommend offensive tera ground volc > swarm, whenever you run lead meow you want leaf storm since it helps ohko tusk as well as knock tera ghost too,go max attk speed on gambit tera dark and lum berry, dd baxc > rotom-w, eject pack rocks great tusk > chomp still maintains your hazard stack for ho tho gives you a lot better momentum and way to remove hazards, make iron val cm here with tera ghost s ball

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https://pokepast.es/c6f70bf74d77f308 this is how it should look like also if you feel you want more damage and pressure from gambit and status aint an issue you can do black glasses

young chasm
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thanks

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odd depot
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# astral crane https://pokepast.es/b6a2b86475cd6d42

so here i would say go curse garg, and rocks great tusk run enough speed on tusk to outspeed non boosted iron val after a spin, tera fire on kingambit, tera dragon pult, slowking > iron valiant a bulky water will be really good especially something to help take on things such as walking wake and iron moth, and lastly do bu taunt covert cloak corv > defog i think this metagame heavily disfavors defog corv for how passive it is but bu taunt corv helps take on things like great tusk, meow, and garg now

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also if you feel you want pult to dish out more damage you can go modest instead

astral crane
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would u go nite, moth, dengo or glimmora over corv?

ruby crest
# odd depot https://pokepast.es/e142404257fc13e5 how's this?

go scarf iron valiant > booster energy, cb baxc > kingambit having an immediate breaker helps a lot for this team while also being a great making progess against fatter teams while being able to check mons like volc , physdef rocks tusk > ace, and rest > rocks on ting lu

ruby crest
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the defog set imo rn is bad while bu/id are a lot better

ruby crest
astral crane
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also

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i do think in very weak to nite at +1

ruby crest
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You really aren’t you have a Corv which takes on a lot of sets

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And if your garg is Terad and set up it’s hard for dnite to break (be mindful of encore however) and if it’s some weird specs set you have slowking

stable brook
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got a major electric weakness

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can someone fix it ;)

ruby crest
astral crane
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also what about this team

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went to 1700 with it

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circles around offensive meow

ruby crest
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Team looks solid overall sash on non lead meow is questionable

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Could low key make it a spiker pivot with boots

ruby crest
astral crane
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i like the team but i ALWAYS have problems at the time to defend

ruby crest
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The team lacks bulk cause it’s really on the ho/offensive side

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That’s why I was saying we could just make this straight up offense

astral crane
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by just changing the meow right

ruby crest
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I have a couple changes in mind but it’s up to you

astral crane
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alr show me what uve got

ruby crest
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Lead meow > the current set, max atk and speed on gambit Tera dark lum berry, np covert dengo > scarf, eject pack rocks tusk, bd encore azu > pult, and dd loaded dice baxc > cb

astral crane
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ill give it a try

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thanks

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also with loaded dice...

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do i change any move for dd?

ruby crest
astral crane
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alr

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btw idk how the suicide lead works

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do i just send meow first and go all out

ruby crest
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Basically you want to get hazards and prevent hazards from coming in

astral crane
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understood

ruby crest
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You want to lead set up spikes taunt for potential defog or hazards, knock, and if possible weaken something etc

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Great tusk + meow is a good hazard core to ensure ur hazard are up and hazards are out in ur side

astral crane
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just a last thing

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idk if no uturn meow would do well against other lead meows

ruby crest
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It will be fine

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It’s all about who wins the speed tie but even then being last can have it’s advantages

astral crane
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so in the case of meow vs meow what do i do

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spikes or knock off

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right?

ruby crest
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Knock is low key a negative trade just cause you just let it get free spikes if you feeling lucky you can taunt to prevent it from setting up

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But don’t worry about it to much

astral crane
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k

astral crane
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damn its pretty good

ruby crest
muted pasture
crystal knot
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Chalcopyrite (Sylveon) @ Leftovers
Ability: Pixilate
Shiny: Yes
Tera Type: Steel
EVs: 200 HP / 200 Def / 108 SpD
Bold Nature
IVs: 0 Atk

  • Hyper Voice
  • Calm Mind
  • Wish
  • Protect

Roaring Moon @ Booster Energy
Ability: Protosynthesis
Tera Type: Flying
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Adamant Nature

  • Acrobatics
  • Crunch
  • Earthquake
  • Dragon Dance

Amoonguss @ Rocky Helmet
Ability: Regenerator
Tera Type: Grass
EVs: 212 HP / 40 Def / 8 SpA / 248 SpD
Calm Nature
IVs: 0 Atk

  • Spore
  • Pollen Puff
  • Protect
  • Toxic

Palafin-Hero @ Assault Vest
Ability: Zero to Hero
Tera Type: Water
EVs: 236 Atk / 20 Def / 252 Spe
Jolly Nature

  • Jet Punch
  • Flip Turn
  • Drain Punch
  • Wave Crash

Chi-Yu @ Choice Specs
Ability: Beads of Ruin
Tera Type: Dark
EVs: 200 SpA / 56 SpD / 252 Spe
Timid Nature
IVs: 0 Atk

  • Dark Pulse
  • Fire Blast
  • Psychic
  • Nasty Plot

Arcanine @ Heavy-Duty Boots
Ability: Intimidate
Level: 50
Tera Type: Fire
EVs: 44 HP / 212 Atk / 252 Spe
Jolly Nature

  • Extreme Speed
  • Flare Blitz
  • Roar
  • Protect
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or is this the wrong thread, because this is ou doubles

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# gloomy bluff https://pokepast.es/0aefdddf618ae097 This team got me the farthest up on the lad...

tera fairy > poison on wahser, offensive 3 attacks iron mothj > booster ( you generally use booster on much more aggresive offensive teams,) , np covert dengo > hatt gives you something for garg and also iron val (optional tho you can do focus blast > recover to smack gambit at the cost of recovery), tera fire> fairy on gambit, and physdef tusk > chomp with enough speed to outspeed non boosted iron val after a spin

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I like it

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Thx a lot

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np

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also a thing

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whats the close combat tera tusk most used for?

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hit something hard

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And get a momentum off with eject pack

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Hello all! First time chatter here, very new to competitive Pokémon and returning player to Pokémon in general as well (last played soulsilver). I built my first team which is doing reasonably well (15-12 with some losses being dumb stuff like not knowing what the fairy type does) but I'm sure it can be improved massively https://pokepast.es/7849192adf0ba02c

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# coral bloom Hello all! First time chatter here, very new to competitive Pokémon and returnin...

hello and welcome this is not bad for someone getting into competitive but its def could use some tweaking, so for big major changes i would recommend going spdef rotom-w > dragonite this still maintains your ground immunity but also a bulky water that can be useful to take on a handful of threats notably walking wake and be able to cripple them with twave, next we will be doing amoonguss with a red card > iron valiant this gives you a way to to better take on opposing great tusk and a handful of other stufff while being able to spread status especially with red card forcing something out after taking a hit and landing off a spore into something that wouldnt want to get spored. Great tusk wants lefties and be purely physically defensive, i would go covert cloak gholdengo > scarf since you have good speed control with dragapult, doing this change on dengo makes it better to take on opposing garg which was problematic for the team before, curse > idpress on garg, and lastly with the two status spreaders in the team i say we can go sub hex pult that can make good use of status moves being spread to its advantage while still maintaing that dangerous speedy breaker

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# ruby crest https://pokepast.es/8cf5a4840ac2701e heres an import of the team with the change...

Those are quite some changes! Thanks for the feedback. Feels like a completely different team to be honest, way more defensive. First of losing Dragonite makes me feel like I need something else with a priority move to replace it, since I no longer have extremespeed and I find it very useful to finish off almost dead enemies. I feel that with losing both Iron Valiant and Dragonite I'm losing all my physical offence, which feels like I'd be vulnerable to Pokemons with high special defence. I do however like having something to deal with bulky waters since I don't have anything that's super effective against them at the moment. Great tusk I like with sash since I mainly use it as a lead to set up rocks, can I still use it in that role or am I better off using a different lead? I also feel that with losing all choice items we're losing a lot of oomph on the team, also I used covert cloak gholdengho before but I felt like I got outsped and OHKO'd too much by opponent scarfed mons

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At the moment luring with H-Zoro works

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But that ain't a good way to check it

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Ye

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Things like that are normal expectations new people assume you think you need priority or strong dedicate mons in a certain aspect of a physical Mon or special, also this ain’t dpp where where you want Sash on “lead mons” especially on a structure like this you wouldn’t award a suicide lead

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Ty

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Struggling against Donbozo lately any suggestions?

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Yeah cb baxc pressures it more

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And scarf iron Val can trick it as well

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Is my build good?

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It's a trick room build

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luh geek

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luh trash team fr

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luh heat

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aight ty

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Alr tt

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Ty

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Only real thing is Tera fire on gambit

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I have Ace for Volc, so I thought Tera Dark was fine on Gambit

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Can anyone suggest some really good teams

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To help me climb

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Also should I swap Volc for Iron Moth in this set

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I dont know how I feel abouut the tusk set considering it cant gholdengo at all

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i also dont understand tera ground on tusk considering u having no ground stab it seems pointless maybe look at a better defenisve typing for terra

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he's kinda just phys bulk

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but I see what you mean

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eq is better in most cases

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okay I changed protect to eq

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Also, I wanted to pick someone's brain on a really bad competitive pokemon that I REALLY want to play in OU. Any thoughts on a team (sun or not) for Leafeon? It's a trend lol

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https://pokepast.es/075ccc2ad4e8b9f3

Iron val doubles as speed control and set up sweeper.

Tusk is tusk though i was hopping between bulk up and phys def for the best set for this team. I'm up to change it if required.

Corv i decided not to run defog thanks to tusk already having defog and taunt being better to stop opposing set up.

Meow is our unaware wall breaker.

Rotom wash helps against walking wake and helps with volt turn while being able to cripple any physical attackers wifh will o wisp.

And kingambit is kingambit.

I knkw i should change teras but i want to know how the mons synergize with each other before I change teras

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Hmmm balance so I assume id ho bulky Kingambit?

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# fiery sapphire Go not ho*

yeah go tera water on tusk enough speed for iron moth after +1, bulky sd tera fire gambit > offenisve sd, spdef rotom-w wants tera fairy a lot of the time as well as t wave, scarf iron vla gives you much needed speed control here, go bu taunt covert corv helps against garg, meow, tusk, and baxc, and cb baxc > meow for a much better breaker

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I used meow mostly because of dozo but rotom and val might be enough

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Baxc itself can pressure it if not force it to Tera as well

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Ah I see

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fallow rock
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I don't know if you can help me with that

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No cause one some of these mons won’t even come out when home is released, and two you are building for a metagame that doesn’t even exist

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Lil boi Leafeon puttin in that work in OU... zonger

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this seems relatively fine at a base level, u could make corv ID press or Bulk Up since eu have reliable removal with tusk. On non wish-pass stail teams i recommend making dozo rest > protect.

You probably want to make clodsire water absorb here, spddef dozo can handle volc well enough but this team can get packed by wake.

tea fire on ace, also maybe sucker rpunch since u get rolled by pult cuz no ghost resist

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This is my first ou team i've made and I am looking for criticism to improve it

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Also, Idrk which murkrow set to use but I kinda like a more offensive one with tailwind

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thin gorge
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# thin gorge Can someone improve this team? https://pokepast.es/acf0eab0b07ef07e

you dont need defog here on corv since you already have good hazard control with great tusk and cinderace, so you can do bu/id corv > defog, i lowkey get why you would want hatt here but this team desperately wants a ghost resist so I would recommend bulky sd tera fire gambit > hatt, idk why you want tusk to be cb with rocks when defensive exist especially when offensive tusk wants a lot of mons in its arsenal to break a lot of stuff, so just go physdef tusk, donzo go tera fairy for baxc and moon, max spdef is standard and do curse > body press, tho bpress is an altnerative > sleep talk and hdb > lefties, since we no longer have an immediate breaker baxc should be cb here, and lastly bulky ace for last

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thin gorge
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do you know a good bu set i can use? bcs idk where to get one

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ohh tysm

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i missed it

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no worries

thin gorge
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wait this team has no special attackers, will that be fine?

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hmm it wouldnt be but if you feeel you would want one do np hydra > baxc then

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ok

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ty

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does this look fine

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@ruby crest

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Double mons that rely on Tera blast seems iffy imo

proven hare
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I mean

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I rarely use Pult for Tera

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Idk what better 4th move is there for it

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Also I am sure that Volc can cheese stuff with Normal Terablast too

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Uhh go focus blast > cc on Val, lefties on tusk, Tera fire on gambit

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On pult you do sucker

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Hell the reason you would Tera ghost on cb pult is for Tera blast >> phantom

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But you can do Tera dragon as well cause darts being stronger is cool

proven hare
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Focus Miss

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CC does the job usually

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on stuff like Gambit, Normal Dragonite

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Focus blast is not for those

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It’s for nailing damage to Corv and garg

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Two mons severely weakened or forced to recover that can benefit everyone in this team

proven hare
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I mean isn't TBolt better then?

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I hate missing so much

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Also they just get tricked

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Thing is tbolt misses out on non Tera garg and even then fairy garg is slightly more common these days

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Focus blast just has way better rolls

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Missing works vs Corv

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but not vs garg

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It’s the same reason why you would do hurricane > air slash cause the damage is so much better then wanting a consistent moves that misses out on secured or the damage you need

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# proven hare but not vs garg

Even then they wouldn’t want to play more aggressively especially if you already tricked you can still do the damage you need to against garg

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Trust a lot of my games have been saved or determined all because of it but like I said you can do aura as an alternative

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Tera ground defensive volc is interesting what’s it for

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How much you do to non Tera bulky volc at +1

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+1 0 SpA Tera Ground Volcarona Tera Blast vs. 248 HP / 0 SpD Volcarona: 160-190 (42.8 - 50.9%) -- 3.9% chance to 2HKO

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Fiery Dance is better vs opponent Volc though

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Same damage

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hmm

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Then if you are up to still this

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Why not Tera water?

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You still hit a lot more relevant stuff and can catch sd iron Val trying to beat volc

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I can
Just felt that Fire + Ground has better coverage

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Another pro of Tera Ground

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You set up on SpDef Rotom-W

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There’s no Tran yet and tbh sounds like a do a lot Mon tbh

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SpDef Rotom-W is huge though

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else it just survives a hit and t waves

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Water is a good idea though

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Can try it sometime

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Yeah besides all the other stuff I mentioned above rest seems fine

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Listen, I KNOW I was NOT cooking... But somehow I've been getting insane results /w it. So far, from what I can tell, nobody has any idea what's going on w/ it and that's how I've been getting results. Though, I WILL say Masquerain w/ Focus Sash, Quiver Dance, Sticky Webs, AND INTIMIDATE is unironically good

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oh zamn

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eject on hatt helps for momentum

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and somethjng like cb roaring moon over shocks can help u switch into ghost moves a few times

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would these guys make up for a good team or no

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i dont have a completed team yet since sets arent planned

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but i plan to make gargnacl specially defensive for moth volc and such. zoroak there for a sash wisper, tusk bulky spinner, cind momentum + 2nd hazard removal and banded azu sits there for walking wake ceruledge bax and other potential dragon spam

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idk what im supposed to expect moongus to do but prob status spreader and tspikes remover

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i'm not the best or anything but I think the changes 3d said are optimal. i would also add healing wish over calm mind for hatterene. if you really want sandy shocks go with a scarf set for a faster volt switch. yawn > will o wisp for torkoal. Choice band Ceruledge > focus sash and replace swords dance with close combat. I think the great tusk is fine but i personally prefer eject pack offensive great tusk for more opportunities for walking wake to come in

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why does eq matter so much?

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like how big is the difference?

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The difference is that you aren’t wearing yourself down from headlong rush negative effects

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Meaning you aren’t forced to switch out a lot and since you are bu you actually stay in more with eq

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true, but since i am building up enough defense via bu i figuered it aint that bad

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ill try it tho ty

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That’s what you think

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But the thing that you are looking at if anything is the spdef drop

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Even then

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Dropping defense can be crucial

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Now if this was 4 attacks tusk it would’ve been a different story

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i guess its safer then

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okay so eq instead of hrush

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Ye

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thx

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np

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Made a pokemon home team designed to abuse poison. Got Sneasler to pivot and spam poison, Gren has the fast toxic spikes, and Iron Moth has Venoshock to wallbreak. Any improvements? I haven't tested it yet due to home not being out

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Oh okay

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So no Sneasler for now

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Once Home is released

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We can rate this team

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If you replace Sneasler with a mon that exists in SV OU meta

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We can have a look at your team

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Thank you but due to how it's made Sneasler is the linchpin

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Maybe I could replace it with Choice Band Cinderace for now

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As a pivot

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While I am not a rater

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I can see some issues in your team

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First is that tusk has no knock

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which means you lose outright to Air Balloon Gholdengo Hazard Stack

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Replace Stealth Rock with Knock Off on Tusk

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And Put the rocks on Garganacl over Body Press

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Also I think below set is more optimal for Garg

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Garganacl @ Leftovers
Ability: Purifying Salt
EVs: 252 HP / 140 Def / 116 SpD
Tera Type: Fairy
Impish Nature

  • Stealth Rock
  • Salt Cure
  • Protect
  • Recover
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Could keep the Tera as Water

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Also bulky Greninja is just plain shit

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It is neither bulky nor strong

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And Boots Greninja is very weak in this meta where its checks are bulky such as Toxapex, Water Absorb Clodsire, SpDef Rotom-Wash

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Especially more than ever now due to protean nerf

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So Specs Greninja looks better here

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And in that case run Boots Moth with Toxic Spikes

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Rotom-Wash can be SpDef else stuff like Walking Wake on sun can be dangerous

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Scarf is a good set, but its better on balance teams than bulky offense like yours

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Finally your Sneasler can be something fast

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Like Dragapult or Scarf/Booster Iron Valiant

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@versed gazelle

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I put Garg Tera as Fairy coz your Dragapult MU is very bad otherwise

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I also think that Band Meowscarda is better than Greninja here

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But didn't want to change members if possible

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Actually

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You could maybe try out Scarf Greninja

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And Specs Valiant

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Specs Valiant is really nice here coz Psyshock hits Moth checks like Clodsire, Toxapex hard. Greninja also likes strong damage vs Pex

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Eleki is not even out

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it will be soon

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Yeah you are preparing for a metagame that doesn’t even exist

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Aim ran my Leafeon team today

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I'm so happy 🥹

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And Toxipex being the only water resist puts pressure on it.

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And not just water an issue so is ice

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Bax and clean the team with EQ for gambit and Toxipex and to Tera fairy on gambit sucker. And It's ice STAB cleans the rest.

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And if gambit Teras it leaves it prone to Ice.

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With the next hit or with proper prediction.

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Hea him tho

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Hes*

onyx halo
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and then what

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what does he do

steady heath
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Idk

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But hes him

onyx halo
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and when does wake even run tera blast

steady heath
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Tera electric

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To beat azu tox etc

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And tera fiary to beat other walking wakes

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Idk shit like that

onyx halo
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but u can just tera fair

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then draco

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Idk dawg i dont use walking mid

odd depot
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Only use good shit like psyduck

ruby crest
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tera blast exist on wake tho its uncommon these days

odd depot
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I was having silly fun on my alt and got hit with terablast fairy walking wake crit and psyduck just took it

ruby crest
odd depot
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Bulky offense. It's my first time tryin it.

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bruh 💀

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Svared of innovation fr

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Scared*

onyx halo
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ok but wyd when they hit you with that dollar store wabsorb clodsire

steady heath
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Breloom and pray

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Also gt is there

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Corv also there

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onyx halo
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why would u use psyduck rather than any other water

steady heath
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Because hes silly

onyx halo
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ok super important question

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is he a silly goofy guy\

odd depot
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Yes psyduck is a silky goofy guy

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Thats why he has zero happines

odd depot
steady heath
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Because all comedians are depressed

ruby crest
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team lowkey wants an immediate breaker and like a slew of diff mons

odd depot
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Alright I'll say I'll keep the first 2

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Thanks!

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^import for the team with changes @odd depot

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odd depot
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So their impact is unknown for now.

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ok

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you can keep specs dengo tho

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probably only part of tysons suggestions i can see you keeping

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only reason i said covert is cause garg man looks annoying

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Rates for this metagame will be on halt as the metagame adapts to the new Home additions. It will be reopened when comp staff and specific raters feel its appropriate to so stay tuned!

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yoooo

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wait its reopened

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thin prairie
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arent bax and rilla respectable in defense

ruby crest
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No they are but the team looks more it’s siding into being an ho that it should just be that

thin prairie
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pult set seems questionable ngl

ruby crest
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It doesn’t tbh but general reason on what you where trying to go for here would be reasonable for making changes

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thin prairie
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i havent played a single game of ou post home

ruby crest
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do cb hoops, bulky sd gambit, Av gking > moon, covert Corv bb > u turn, rocks garg, and scarf lando-t > defensive

sly mauve
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can i get my team rated tho

vagrant mulch
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tried making a team on my own

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im thinking it might suck vs rain but idk

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slowking is supposed to give bax a easier time setting up

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been using this team with some success lately, hoopa after salac or valiant after booster can outspeed weather sweepers if webs are up its really fun https://pokepast.es/3dfae27b3351b185

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got it

regal rock
placid remnant
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Hey, it is a Bax + glowking fsight team, what do you think of it ?

ruby crest
placid remnant
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Hdb ?

ruby crest
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Boots

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so added hoodra

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also what evs are good for idbp hoodra?

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any tips/improvements?

surreal bloom
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h

rose hinge
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team i made for home

fallow crag
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Alongside scarf trick gholdengo

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But otherwise yeh that's a solid ho team

rose hinge
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ig but screens piss me off

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I'll add them if needed though

fallow crag
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An understandable belief

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Screens good

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They do be bullshit

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But they also do be good

rose hinge
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what does screens help sweep though

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oh nvm

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for dnite

fathom wraith
west harbor
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heatran doesn’t get toxic in gen 9

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thin prairie
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TRIPLE REGEN STALL WTFF

still citrus
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Full regen stall

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Samurott-Hisui @ Focus Sash
Ability: Sharpness
EVs: 200 Atk / 56 SpA / 252 Spe
Tera Type: Ghost
Naive Nature

  • Ceaseless Edge
  • Sacred Sword
  • Taunt
  • Hydro Pump
thin gorge
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ok ty

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wait why is pult better than grimm?

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is this good??

fallow crag
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do you just set screens once and then just curse to kill pult bcs i thought its preferred to have it alive to set screens one more time

jaunty prawn
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i'm new to the game is this okay

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it's my first team

knotty cargo
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i assume you built this with the intention around gapdos?

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yes

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I did

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so make this cb gapdos, tera water tusk and go 80 speed into it so at +1 you can outspeed non scarf enams be nice to catch a knock especially from specs making it easier gor gking to pivot in more effectively since it aint av, tera dragon on pult, tera fairy on volc, and bulky sd gambit > hoops, also a bit optional if you want to make fatter teams struggle is go for fire spin volcanion and trap and remove fat stuff

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you drop ep for volcanion not taunt since taunt helps deny passive mons doing there passive stuff, also you can try tkick > tantrum since most of your would be checks wouldnt stay in for more than 1 turns after drop

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any sample teams circling around sneasler right now?

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sad

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I tend to struggle with dozo, rain, trick and unburden sneasler

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I also used cindersce for hazard control but replaced with dragonite after not being able to beat sneasler

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I originally planned moon as a late game sweeper and I need dragonite for sneasler so maybe I’ll swap zama for a spec wallbreaker

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Thanks for the feedback

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tbh rn moon is lowkey relegated into ho rn

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Yeah but I find it interesting cuz apart from dozo it can take care of stall extremely easily

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It’s kinda frustrating playing a 5v6 until I bring out moon but once I get a free d dance sweeping is no trouble

livid glade
ruby crest
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Hydro helps in immediately pressuring great tusk which can otherwise not be forced out immediately when going aqua or razor

knotty cargo
jaunty prawn
still citrus
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Polt is a little questionable as there is a lot of gambit

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But it’s fine

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A Hazard user would also be nicr

jaunty prawn
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i wanted some kind of alternative win con with polt but yeah there's sucker punch a bit everywhere apparently

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Hmmmm if you want a sweeper the best one is probably zama body press

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But roaring moon dragon dance acrobatics or iron moth agility with booster energy are pretty fun

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thanks so much in advance

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I dunno what ur gonna do about dragonite

unique fulcrum
still citrus
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Yeah could see that

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Hmmm

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Court change cinderace?

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Or iron treads

unique fulcrum
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on a rain team?

still citrus
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Oh

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Eject pack hatterine

unique fulcrum
still citrus
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Hmmmmm

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Gambit or clod ig

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Man you shoulda done this when urshifu existed

unique fulcrum
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is overqwil good on rain?

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should i replace it

still citrus
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Overquil has fast destiny bond, good tying and sword dance

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It’s pretty strong

still citrus
unique fulcrum
still citrus
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This is a strong team

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Hopefully you don’t run into trick room

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Otherwise ur kinda done

unique fulcrum
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tera ghost gambit?

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and run like low kick for ursaluna?

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i really enjoyed tera ghost low kick max speed gambit

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because it beats other gambits 1 on 1 before tera

still citrus
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No I think ur fucked even with Tera ghost gambit

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What’s stopping ursuluna from headlong rush

unique fulcrum
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true

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wait maybe greninja for gambit?

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like run water shuriken?

still citrus
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And there’s no way you kill it before it kills u

unique fulcrum
still citrus
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But maybe

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That + sucker

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But r u gonna run greninja just for rain

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Trick*

unique fulcrum
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i mean

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how common is TR

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also jolly>adamant for basculegion right?

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just lost to a victory dance liligant

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protect on tusk for lefties + TR stall?

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or body press

still citrus
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Uhhhhh

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Don’t use protect

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Actually maybe

unique fulcrum
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should i run ice spinner for dnite?

placid seal
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this looks like pre home

placid seal
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just came back from a long like 5 month or so break

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so thatd probably be why

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basically just threw in some numbers into a blender and got that i guess

ruby crest
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Yeah this is an outdated team

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Volc got banned and some of the mons sets are dated

placid seal
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damn

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Volc was banned?

astral crane
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Anyone has a team with sneasler

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My attempt to create a BO team that survives in this HO-centric meta.

https://pokepast.es/ddaa5d0604cda0a9 I thought of running Dark Pulse instead of U-Turn on Tornadus for coverage vs D-Pult and Tera Ghost Valiant & Garg. The other option was Focus Blast for the Baxcalis, Gargs, Heatrans running rampant but lemme know if any weakness are standouts

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dense anchor
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# dense anchor got to 1600 using this team, any suggestions to make it better? https://pokepast...

Hi I think the team is really cool ngl, just a few details could be added perhaps to this. I think with landorus or with enam if you want you definitely could try out scarf for either one of them to have some sort of speed control for mons such as valiant/pult/zamazenta. Scarf for either works fine for the team, with enam scarf you could try healing wish as last slot and landorus eq stone edge/rocks u turn and tera blast (ice) or knock.

Another thing I would suggest here is gambit tera type, I think you could try out tera dark with black glasses here as you already have 3 ground resists in your team and general dark moves from gambit for late game with the tera type + glasses just makes damage increase drastically.

One last things I could recommend is if you want you can do salt cure sr iron defense recover also but bpress should work for general damage/sweep. And rotom I think having protect would be nice over wisp since you have wisp tran already as with tect it can help you check what moves your opp will make if they’re a choiced set or help waste opponents pp.

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Oh you know what can work @ruby crest

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Smth like ace over tran ngl

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hmmm

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Losing Tran makes enam and iron Val more of headache then

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Court change wisp is not bad for this team since I have something similar myself

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Yea it does

ruby crest
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Well I guess bulky ace can sort of help

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Ya I run max spe 220 hp and 32 atk

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It’s pretty helpful in most situations

dense anchor
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Na you need hazard control in general fwiw but yeah ace can work

dense anchor
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true i guess 2 boots mons aren’t cutting it

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Just gonna add one last thing, for hazard control if you want you could def try out tusk>lando and see how the team fairs for you in your games

dense anchor
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im just so tired of using great tusk and corviknignt ngl

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oh for sure

ruby crest
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Tusk does improve gambit mu as well

dense anchor
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defensive tusk im assuming

ruby crest
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Gives you an actual answer to h samu kekw

severe shard
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Should help ya

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Spin sr eq knock maybe

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Or if you wanna add cc/bpress in there to hit Sam/gambit it could work also

dense anchor
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lmaooo yeah that’s why i replaced protect with wisp on rotom wash as a one time check but i could just replace with protect by using tusk

ruby crest
dense anchor
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besides my rotom is specially defensive and isn’t wisp for the physical variants

severe shard
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I put press dum dum

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Oh no I didn’t

ruby crest
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You said cc

severe shard
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Mb

ruby crest
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taking your rater role

severe shard
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naauuur

dense anchor
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i originally had zama in garg’s slot but ended up noticing garg works better for me with actual recovery

severe shard
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Nah garg is amazing for phys mons these days

dense anchor
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zapdos would mess with me when i had zama on my team

ruby crest
severe shard
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And being able to just sit on dire claw from sneasler is great also

ruby crest
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But yeah there’s many ways to approach this team it’s up to you what you want for the team and go from there

severe shard
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Anyways, I think the team is good. Just minor changes and I definitely see it being great on ladder also since you plan to go higher. Maybe we will see each other there 👀

dense anchor
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thanks so much, will try out some different changes later today and see what works out ❤️

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Buzzwole team

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Doing pretty good with it

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but Lele might be a bit annoying

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(Specs Lele)

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Oh wait

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this is OU

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lol

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I’m suppose to be in ND

burnt hill
unique fulcrum
autumn igloo
unique fulcrum
unique fulcrum
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but i might go back to using thunder

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im pretty new to this meta too

thin gorge
autumn igloo
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I was thinking of adding tusk over mongus

unique fulcrum
autumn igloo
unique fulcrum
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thats the point of using zap in rain i think

thin gorge
unique fulcrum
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covers grass weakness

autumn igloo
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Also been thinking of adding gambit over one of swift swimmers

unique fulcrum
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with sr weakness

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i sometimes find on longer games it dies before the end

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and i clean with kingambit

unique fulcrum
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considering changing tera types for zap to electric

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qwils super good (sweeps a lot of teams)

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but gambit is more consistent and has stab priority

knotty cargo
past night
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Seems pretty balance, your not gonna like going against but no flying type is brave. King gambit with low sweep is a big threat too

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Why protect goodra tho

burnt hill
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Helps Goodras survivability alot to my testing

wanton root
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Is this supposed to be balance

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Even if not you lose to booster val super hard

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You don’t have a solid tusk answer either

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I understand that this team was likely built around hoodra, but it seems like it exacerbates a lot of issues with the structure without doing anything particularly unique or valuable

knotty cargo
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Hmm, you’re right

wanton root
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So I think you probably want to start by replacing that with av torn

knotty cargo
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Replacing hoodra?

wanton root
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Yea

knotty cargo
wanton root
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Idk what you want me to say

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It’s unviable

knotty cargo
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Could I like change a few things around in the team or should I just wait for hoodra to drop to UU

wanton root
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Wait

knotty cargo
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Damn

wanton root
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If you really want a dedicated hoodra team my advice is to either run av or curse with wish support

ruby crest
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av or specs tbh otherwise not worth it

wanton root
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Specs seems cool

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I think curse needs more testing tho

knotty cargo
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I’ll try av and see how that pans out

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I’ll just start from scratch

wanton root
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Gl

knotty cargo
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I’m literally the goodra propagandist, I’m sure I can make something work

wanton root
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Also since you’re probably going to be running something more defensive in nature you should probably invest in a luna counter

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Which basically just comes down to washtom and uh

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Washtom

knotty cargo
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Doesn’t luna just rip through everything

wanton root
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Yea