#[DO NOT USE][ARCHIVED] SV OU Rates

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dry edge
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I kinda just assumed you would tera fairy super early vs Pao teams

night zodiac
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Noted
Also ye the nature on Volc was a mistake lol

spiral fable
dry edge
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That's fine but if that's your way of dealing with Pao then you should prolly do it early instead of expecting a 1v1 which will prolly only happen if Pao already took down a mon

subtle rose
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garg also doesnt resist rocks

spiral fable
subtle rose
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yes

spiral fable
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alright thanks for the tips

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woeful raptor
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agile lava
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yo

velvet path
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is my team ok

agile lava
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kinda weak to volcarona

ruby crest
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ahh 3d got this one

velvet path
agile lava
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i’d probably replace tinglu with clodsire

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and

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scizor w garg

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to keep the pult answee

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answer

velvet path
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ok

agile lava
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i’d also make dondozo physdef

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to help w chien

velvet path
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oh i did that on accidnt

ruby crest
ruby crest
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fix up masqurain moveset quiver dance > stun spore, hurricane > air slash, and pump > whirlwind

woeful raptor
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also ive switched hatterene to dragonite

ruby crest
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dnite was fine

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would do like quaq > washer, and then Kingambit > ting lu

woeful raptor
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air

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alr

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thanks

ionic crag
ionic crag
shrewd osprey
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I had Dozo > Washer originally

dry mountain
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not to add to the pile but

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supple forge
feral dirge
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hey i'm new to OU, from VGC, i somewhat understand how it works but i could take some suggestions

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i thinking of running scarf GT in order to outspeed chien pao and scarf gholdengo

fresh sentinel
green citrus
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dnite is a fine pick with it, i would change up the rest of the team

green citrus
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could do specs pult too or smth

night zodiac
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specs pelipper also proved to be a really big threat but idk if that's a real thing

night zodiac
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proven hare
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Semi Rain BO

daring violet
proven hare
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Hazards and Pult check

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I had TankChomp initially

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But was weak to Pult

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So I went Ting Lu

daring violet
# proven hare Hazards and Pult check

fair I would say the team is pretty standard rain, I understand Gholdengo's role as well, maybe the only thing I would fix is hatterane and go for the calm mind set and make it tera type water for opposing water mons

proven hare
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Oh ok
I thought Healing Wish was nice for Floatzel though
Since Wave Crash wears it down

daring violet
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instead of mystical fire on the standard set id go with nuzzle / healing wish

proven hare
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And Eject button Brings in Floatzel easily and unexpectedly

daring violet
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fair

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Yeah like I said I think the team is well built my only hard change is going tera water for sure, I don't mind the eject healing wish set tbh maybe more defensive evs

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but tbh aside from that team looks good, or even give ting lu tera water

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prob hatt tho because ground is important for tinglu

proven hare
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Sounds cool
I thought of Juglis over Kilo. How about that?
I like Electrics in rain to pressure bulky waters, but Juglis gives me a Dark type. Then maybe I could go TankChomp over TingLu to spread more chip with Helmet + Skin

daring violet
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I think both options are valid and worth trying

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I think the current build of the team though is optimal if you wanted to use it

green citrus
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i think u drop all the mons for golduck

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the true rain

daring violet
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I do think Jug > Kilo is fair and I do think Chomp > Ting Lu is a fair double replacement

daring violet
proven hare
green citrus
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rocks sandy shocks is smth exciting ive wanted to try on rain

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potentially ass tho

proven hare
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Oh yeah
It compresses Electric, Hazards, Pivot in 1 slot

green citrus
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yep

proven hare
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All important for rain

green citrus
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and i mean, u CAN run thunder if u want but

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yeah

shrewd osprey
green citrus
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would rather run boots or lefties on tusk, covert cleak on amoong, and maybe tera ghost wisp on rotom

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or tera steel

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ur only breaking power is chien tho and u have a hard time getting it in

proven hare
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No Stealth Rock

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That can be an issue

green citrus
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and that

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yeah

sly mauve
low quarry
true pilot
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true pilot
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idk if i did something wrong or hat lmao but coolio

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anywho

true pilot
true pilot
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becuase its cool!

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and its worked p well for me!

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<3

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with that garg set rain stays up p much the whole game lol

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why kilowatrell?

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idk dnites going crazy rn

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i appreciate your suggestoing though

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fr

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ill look into kilo

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yeah i tried that for awhile

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but i struggle with defensive type mons

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and as lazy as it sounds i really value the "click funny button" mentality

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i dont like how it takes like 60% from meowscarada so im probably gonna take your advice and struggle with patience lmao

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well heres the idea behind boots

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my team doesnt have a spinner

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so i really value swapping in constantly to put the rain back up without taking 25 from rocks yk?

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but ig now that i say that i realize why uturn is so useful

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i think im swapping up the bird now lmao

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im suprised you had nothing to say ab tera blast grass thing

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true

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lmao

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resists electric and handles other watertypes

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id run electric if it had any electric moves lmfao

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so if i did add the birb

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im thinking defensive tera and ice beam..

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beuh

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bruh

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my brother in christ

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im discussing peliper

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defensive kilowatrell makes me want to throw up

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cry even

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holy fuck

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this thingn learns weather ball

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i think we have ourselves a winner

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could it be?

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the last slot finally filled?

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naming it Thunder-T at home

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lmfao

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cant decide if im going full send

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or playing it safe

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thunder or nah

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and what item?

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too many possiblities

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eh ill figure it out im sure

ionic crag
true pilot
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oh true

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Thunderous at home (Kilowattrel) @ Heavy-Duty Boots
Ability: Volt Absorb
Tera Type: Flying
EVs: 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Timid Nature
IVs: 0 Atk

  • Thunder
  • Hurricane
  • Weather Ball
  • Volt Switch
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does this fit your requirements o birb master

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lmfao

true pilot
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poggers

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still getting used to it

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he's not doing so good atm lmao

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ur good fam

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i appreciate the help!

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will it's not that it isn't powerful

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i just need to master its placement

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like i did with wash

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i hated using it at first

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but i tried loads of sets until i realized wow i can literally do whatever i want with this thing

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I'm sure i could do that with birb

true pilot
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yeah i cannot handle that mon

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just not for me at all

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that and toxapex

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which is a shame bc i love the merciless ability

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bit it just never ever packs enoigh punch even w the crits

low quarry
spiral fable
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why sash on breloom?

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o yeah also why the weird evs on quaquaval

severe shard
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That’s the smogon ev spread for it

supple forge
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sash on breloom is fine

severe shard
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Not sure what the 16 atk is for tbh, I just invest the rest in def ngl

spiral fable
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thats a very strange spread

severe shard
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It’s a bulky bu set

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Usually it runs poison tera for stuff like amoong

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It’s honestly nb

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But you don’t really get chances to use quaq unless it’s on like rain

spiral fable
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back to the team if you're running sash breloom as a lead why also run screens and glim

supple forge
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sash breloom doesnt always need to be lead?

subtle rose
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yea ideally grimm blocks hazards w taunt or smt

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hi velgoat

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which is fine

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the idea is to play 6-5 with screens and hazards up

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or 6-4

spiral fable
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sash breloom that doesn't lead seems like a waste of an item slot

subtle rose
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sashes help HO preserve some form of longevity and revenge killing ability

severe shard
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Grimm is fine I believe as a lead mon here, I would say you could try going poison terra on it in case you ever run into tspike users or opposing glimm.

As for glimmora here I think it’s best to run like Air Balloon as its item of choice as you can come into ground moves or force them to use another physical move like knock to have tspikes on the opposing side, you could also run great tusk as another option for hazard setter and removal here as well.

For Breloom you typically wanna run like a band set, you could also LO and in some cases I’ve seen some loaded dice as its item but not too much of a fan of it. Personally I don’t really like running loom on HO cause of its speed tier in the meta, I think you could easily replace it with something like either gholdengo or for extra hazards on field you could try out meowscarada boots u turn with spikes over in place of loom.

Quaq I feel could be replaced also with a faster sweeper such as Chien Pao or one that generally has higher damage input like Dragonite over it. Baxcalibur is also a decent option but the speed tier is what sets it back a bit.

Kinggambit I think is cool, you could swap between black glasses or lefties over boots but I kinda get why it’s boots since you’re tera flying.

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@low quarry

low quarry
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oh thanks

subtle rose
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omg

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velgoat

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truly

severe shard
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@low quarry

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the second team you could replace meow with like gambit/chien if you don’t like hazard stack as much, and ig Chien or gambit could be good instead since you’re running screens

low quarry
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Thanks!

severe shard
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These are without meow

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But anything between like tusk/glimm and gambit slot is all up to you @low quarry

low quarry
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Im gonna run Tusk and King

severe shard
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You could also axe out Grimm as well if you ever feel like you don’t need it, and in that case you could go with another fast sweeper like Chien pao or meow for further hazard stack with spikes @low quarry

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One of those two are fine, bax also exists as a hard hitter as well.

supple forge
severe shard
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Oo this looks interesting

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I gotcha one sec

spiral fable
supple forge
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its hyper offense

severe shard
spiral fable
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you know better than i do so

severe shard
# supple forge https://pokepast.es/d609799fb5a6163a could ya help me too?

Not many changes needed tbh maybe just 1-2 things.

Ceruledge HO I think is pretty fun, and the evs you put on your mons are all fine tbh.

Really the only thing that could change is the valiant set here, aura sphere isn’t really gonna be hitting anything much since moonblast for the most part already hits mons like ting lu, Chien pao, and gambit hard. Really the only thing you’re hitting with sphere is maybe an orthworm which is pretty uncommon. The tera type imo with cm set should be electric with thunderbolt over aura sphere as you’re not weak to gholdengo once you do tera to electric typing and lastly I believe psyshock is preferred over psychic to hit Clodsire and blissey.

Tusk is fine, if you want you could run stealth rocks if you want to but nothing else much to add aside from that.

As mentioned I think ceruledge is cool and since you’re screens I did make other options for it as well like volcarona over ceruledge to make use of screens + the bulky set it runs with quiver dance. Roost dnite is also one other option but I feel volc is nice with the giga drain set as that’s another mon that could help you deal with Dondozo aside from taunt bulk up ceru.

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And I have one other option I had replaced ceru with, and that’s with orthworm itself. You can make use of screens + being under sub and hazards on field to help espa gather kills and gain boosts.

frank anchor
severe shard
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But otherwise the team looks fun aside from those edits, not much to change minus valiant mainly.

supple forge
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hmm ill try volc over ceruledge

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thx!

severe shard
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Np

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And ya volc is great over ceru

frank anchor
severe shard
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Screens + set up helps it a ton

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Making it kinda annoying to deal with

ionic crag
frank anchor
supple forge
frank anchor
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debating on changing Ursaring and ttar

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Mismagius is fine imo

frank anchor
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i'll have to do more trial and error

wanton root
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There’s a lot of things wrong here

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I’m assuming this is supposed to be screens ho right?

frank anchor
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ho?

wanton root
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Hyper offense

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Basically you run 1-2 dedicated support mons and 4 wincons

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The goal is to take momentum early and end the game fast

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The thing about it tho is because of how momentum dependent it is choice items aren’t usually a good choice

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Because that provides your opp with opportunities to switch around whatever you click

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There’s also just some generally odd choices

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Like rock ttar

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What do you want to keep

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Outside of magius and ursaring

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gilded crane
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might be cooking with this one ngl

thorny junco
spiral fable
sterile frost
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May I post?

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Actually this team sucks

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Also I keep forgetting to put tera types on my mons

green citrus
green citrus
spiral fable
green citrus
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hm

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i guess...try skeledirge? and then maybe dozo over alo

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stall is difficult so sorry if i cannot provide much info

spiral fable
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Np, thanks for the feedback

wanton root
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speaking of stall/semi

green citrus
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especially with chien pao running around, this team gets destroyed by CB crunches

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like instantly

spiral fable
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Actually what do you think of switching corviknight

wanton root
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does the playstyle need speed control

green citrus
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no it doesnt need speed control

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but i think winconcs like dirge/dozo/volc etc are kinda needed

wanton root
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yea ofc

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you still need a way of making progress lol

sterile frost
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I feel like my team is gonna be bad against fairys

green citrus
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the only fairies r valiant and like

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hatterene

spiral fable
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Garg and dirge

green citrus
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unless u count teras, in which case there is uh, skeledirge, garganacal, volcarona, annnndndddddd rarely rotom

wanton root
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ik you said ydk much about stall

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but can just take a quick look at this

sterile frost
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I see, I feel more confident now thank you

wanton root
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I was thinking maybe cloak ih corv

green citrus
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could work i guess

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doesnt neeed to be iron head

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just stall the salt cures

silk hamlet
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idk on stall i feel like you wanna fit both volc and garg if you go with volc

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but it prob works

wanton root
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I don't really see how to do that tho

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ig I could drop blissey

spiral fable
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you need blissey beacuse clod can't handle all the spatckers

wanton root
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garg is also a special wall lol

spiral fable
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eh, i found garg to be too unreliable as a special wall, but never hurts to test em out

night zodiac
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https://pokepast.es/7c806257e4637f2c unsure about the dondozo slot, rain is kinda giving me a tough time and if that slot isn't a water resist (was testing Blissey) then Azu kinda 6-0s me

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night zodiac
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I've had success with the team but it kinda just feels like dozo isn't exactly doing as much as it could be doing

severe shard
main mauve
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thief corvi

night zodiac
paper kraken
severe shard
# night zodiac https://pokepast.es/7c806257e4637f2c unsure about the dondozo slot, rain is kind...

Sorry for being late, team looks kinda interesting.

Firstly meowscarada scarf I used to see a lot then but as hazard stack became more abused in the tier it’s really kinda hard to have it just run scarf without having to take hazard damage, what you could do is run boots to come in and pivot out whenever. Another thing with meow slot, I do kinda feel it does lack that hitting potential compared to other hard hitters in the meta which kinda makes the team a bit weak on the phys offensive side imo, so something like band Chien pao or standard boots pao could work great here, you could also run banded dnite or even scarf trick valiant if you’re looking for speed control.

Gholdengo set is good, however I do think running max hp and spe could be the way here as you don’t wanna put yourself in a situation where you’re always losing in a ghold vs ghold situation, there’s not a set ev spread for ghold yet but I think this could still perform just as well. One other thing you could potentially do with ghold is have it be tera fighting as well to be able to deal with Chien or gambit.

Volc is nice the way it is, wisp helps a bit vs offensive teams. You mentioned a rain weakness earlier, well, volc can sorta help with that as it has other options like a giga drain set with terra grass typing that you could take advantage of here. You also want a different EV spread since 32 timid is still being outsped by corviknight which is something players take account for with volc. IMO I think we can run 152 spe evs here as you’re hitting 174 which outspeed corvi and the rest into defense while HP stays at 248, so it’d be 248 hp / 108 def / 152 spe bold nature.

severe shard
# night zodiac https://pokepast.es/7c806257e4637f2c unsure about the dondozo slot, rain is kind...

For garg I think running max spdef could help you a bit with special hitters like pult or valiant here, I’d also recommend running a different tera type as well as with ghost tera you’re making yourself vulnerable to ghost or dark type attacks from Chien or other threats. Fairy type could work here to be able to tank dark moves from Chien.

I think the reason you’re having issues with rain and your Dondozo is mainly because of your set here, you’re running protect which really isn’t helping Dondozo here making it a useless slot. Sleep Talk over protect here is best to be able to use moves while in your sleep so that way you can set up or land crash on mons. Another option for Dondozo is you could also make it full phys def instead of spdef to tank physical mons better than before, curse set is still decent on it but you could run body press over curse if you’d like also.

Lastly for your great tusk I think you might as well run max hp and def since that’s what your ev spread shows what you’re trying to use for the most part, a defensive tusk. I think you could make use of this tusk here and run a bulk up rapid set over ice spinner here which makes it an annoying phys tank to deal with vs offensive mons.

night zodiac
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I was just about to say I implemented (most of) the changes lol

severe shard
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For the second one i replaced meow with a fast pivot, figured pult could be decent as you can burn and have volc be able to set up with giga + fire move that way.

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Also fiery dance probably is better on volc than flamethrower as it raises your spa

night zodiac
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Ye I was gonna see if it were possible to still have meow there without jeopardizing the functionality of the squad

Also I was unsure if I'd need to get rid if wisp in favor of giga drain, cuz wisp volc has been amazing for me

severe shard
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But then flame has more pp so idk

severe shard
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It just depends on the team

night zodiac
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Understandable

severe shard
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You could also run curse on dozo if you still want to, up to you

night zodiac
severe shard
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Mhm

night zodiac
# severe shard Mhm

I'll be sure to try it out, thanks for giving me a better understanding :) (with everything lol not just the volc thing)

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Appreciate your help

knotty cargo
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https://pokepast.es/5deb79f191c54683 gen 9 ou team ft. Flareon because it needs more love. I know Flareon is ass, but I wanted to build around it because it’s my favorite eeveelution

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agile lava
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flareon is def not viable

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this team needs a shadow ball switchin more than anything

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id suggest roaring moon > pult

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and if u really want a strong fire type

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just go with cb cinderace

knotty cargo
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What should I replace for cinderace

daring violet
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i agree with everything 3d is saying but tbh scovillian might be better over cinderace

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flareon needs to go

knotty cargo
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Yeah that’s completely fair

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In the matches I was testing the team on, it wasn’t doing anything

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God why is Flareon so ass

daring violet
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its just not really viable in ou

knotty cargo
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I know

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I’m well aware how garbage it is

daring violet
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lmao

knotty cargo
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I just thought I’d try something new

daring violet
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fair

knotty cargo
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Why did they do Flareon so dirty

daring violet
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scovillian or cinderace will work as replacements

knotty cargo
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Alright

daring violet
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they did flareon dirty for so long

knotty cargo
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I know

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That doesn’t mean it’s any less hurtful

daring violet
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since dp its been very okay as a pokemon (to put it nicely)

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so at least 13 years

knotty cargo
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Sad

daring violet
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maybe longer tbh

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but yeah i also agree with 3d on going for a ghost resist on the team

knotty cargo
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Flareon needs more physical moves, and actual speed

daring violet
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roaring moon is a solid replacement for pult

knotty cargo
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Even at +1 I struggled to outspeed anything

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That’s fair

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The pult spread should be the spdef one on the analysis right

daring violet
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roaring moon you mean?

knotty cargo
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Yeah

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I’m getting Flareon copium brain rot

daring violet
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lmao

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i would follow the smogon analysis prob go with the roost / dd / crunch or jaw lock / eq or iron head

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if u want more of a pivoting set you can go with choice scarf or choice band with uturn

knotty cargo
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Alright

stable hatch
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Is gallade viable this gen?

unkempt hill
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you can probably mess with it on screens in ou

stable hatch
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Yeah

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Idk if valiant is better for ou

unkempt hill
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they dont really do the same things

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valiant is mostly special anyway

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sharpness gallade hits insanely hard

stable hatch
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Oh yeah forgot it got sharpness

unkempt hill
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yea sharpnessless gallade is a huge lol momwnt

dusk rivet
supple forge
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There is no benefit to that

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The tera blast part

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With ghost tera

spiral fable
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why stack torch song and flame thrower? and you have no reliable hazard removal, so i'd recommend boots on dirge, and changing tera to fairy

dry edge
# dusk rivet https://pokepast.es/47c9c367bcb4a45f Gotta figure out who to make my main tera, ...

There's too much going with the team rn. As pointed out above both Torch Song and Flamethrower on Skele is a bit redundant, and doing Tera Blast Tera Ghost doesn't make much sense. You don't need a main tera, just give your team the appropiate ones and you'll end up clicking one or two more than the rest without over focusing on it.

No need for Naive Valiant as you only have special attacks, Timid is fine. No hazard control seems rough; Tusk over either Skele or Pex can prolly work decently well.

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fallow crag
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EVs increase stats in multiples of 4

glass yoke
fallow crag
glass yoke
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Ok, I'll change those 2 back to their respective suggested values

fallow crag
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as for the team comp

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for the cat i would use tera dark > tera grass, it is generally better

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garg is fine once you clean up the EVs, though I personally prefer tera fairy on it

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for that iron moth set, I would run Energy Ball > Discharge and Morning Sun > Tera Blast with Tera Grass instead of Water

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I think you'll find more success with boots/leftovers on Kingambit alongside Tera Flying and Swords Dance > Brick Break

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I like the idea of Ice Spinner on Tusk but Knock Off is generally more effective, though I could see it having a place on this team

glass yoke
#

oh, great suggestion on tera flying kingambit. I can definitely see how that would be great

fallow crag
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on CurseTalk Dondozo, generally I prefer full SpD investment, but for the purposes of this team, I can understand the set you have there

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tera ghost garg is normally seen on spikestack stuff which you dont have so im not sure why you are running ghost

glass yoke
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I think i missed that tusk had knock off. that is good to know

fallow crag
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yup it is a good move for a good mon

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just to explain how EVs work so you don't go off too confused

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EVs increase stats in multiples of 4, so 4 Attack EVs will increase your Attack stat by 1

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Natures increase/decrease a stat by 10%, so a Jolly nature on a Pokemon with 300 Attack and 200 Special Attack will result in 330 Attack and 180 Special Attack

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roughly

glass yoke
#

cool, thanks for all the tips

fallow crag
#

np

gilded crane
wanton root
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it doesn't

gilded crane
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well the whole point of blim is to shut down tusk

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so what should be the ideal iv spread

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max def or atk def

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sterile frost
#

Would Status cleansing be a good idea, because Chien pao getting burned/Para really sucks

sterile frost
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Dang

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Well any suggestions? Taxipex isn't really that fun to use and it is to similar to rotom w in my opinion to use defensively

dapper mortar
fallow crag
# dapper mortar Here’s my SV OU team, please give me a lot of critiques but I know I’m weak to D...

There's a lot here that's just barely wrong so I'll give my thoughts. Glimmora doesn't really have a place on this team, as this is more BO if anything. I'd look to replace it with Iron Defense Garganacl. Physically defensive tusk should run body press > brick break and earthquake > headlong rush to avoid the drops. I also prefer Knock > stealth rock and moving rocks to clodsire over gunk shot. I don't know what tera dark does but it ain't good, I think tera ground is best for that set. Breloom is a weird one, I think it should probably be a chien pau but it's fine for your purposes. If you do keep it, make it close combat > rock tomb. Tera dark does nothing on clodsire, I'd go with tera flying or tera ground. Finally, I don't think pure offensive volcarona fits the team best; physically defensive volcarona gets you a lot more value

dapper mortar
fallow crag
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That's why I suggested rocks on clod to make up for it

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Very cool tho, sorry for the massive changes

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Ah um

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The volcarona spread still ain't it let me find the good one

dapper mortar
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alr

fallow crag
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Volcarona @ Heavy-Duty Boots
Ability: Flame Body
Tera Type: Grass
EVs: 248 HP / 108 Def / 152 Spe
Timid Nature

  • Quiver Dance
  • Morning Sun
  • Fiery Dance
  • Giga Drain
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This is generally considered to be the best available rn for volc

dapper mortar
#

I was looking at morning sun, how much does it heal with no weather?

fallow crag
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50%

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75% with sun up

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25% if there's a non sun weather

dapper mortar
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Ohh

fallow crag
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Generally it's better thougu

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Cause sun is the most common weather

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And volc ain't great into rain anyways

rose hinge
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teammates for quaquaval?

proven hare
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CB Chien Pao lures the former

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Valiant for the latter

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Actually
This build could be fun. Ngl

rose hinge
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wait why would quaq want bozo lured in

proven hare
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Coz it doesn't do anything to Bozo

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Band Pao, Valiant, Bulk Up Quaq, Tusk, Pult, Corv is nice

rose hinge
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but then what do i use to kill the bozo

proven hare
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Chien Pao

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Tera Dark 2HKOes it

rose hinge
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oh fr?

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but doesnt dozo ohko pao

rose hinge
proven hare
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Defensive could work

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@ me whenever

proven hare
proven hare
subtle rose
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i dont like scarf val

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couldnt u just specs val scarf tom

proven hare
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Where's its switch in?

proven hare
subtle rose
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i mean sure, but normal specs val still has that absurd speed tier

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and u can use zor to rk the same things (cpao, mainly)

proven hare
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Scarf Valiant isn't forced out by Pao, Pult , Moon

subtle rose
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yea but scarf val is stupid weak

proven hare
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Let me try both and see actually

subtle rose
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and losing fighting move

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kinda sucks

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cuz that val set cant hit either dengo OR gambit

proven hare
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I don't remember the last time I used fighting move on Valiant

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Tbh

subtle rose
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well with specs u 2hko corv without tbolt

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and then u can afford sball > tbolt for dengo

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thats not bad

proven hare
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Actually

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I am not using it as a wall breaker here

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Scarf is actually for Volc

subtle rose
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what does val do into volc tbh

proven hare
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Trick the Scarf to Volc

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Then Moon walls it

subtle rose
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moon walls it anyways

unkempt hill
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dont diss

subtle rose
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they're all fire grass

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lel

unkempt hill
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smh

subtle rose
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ok but i think in that slot to go along with the hazards u could just

proven hare
subtle rose
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do scarf dengo

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and achieve

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like the exact same thing but still have some power

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cuz scarf timid dengo should be faster then 99% of the volcs at +1

chilly zealot
naive stirrup
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idk why but I rlly like Floatzel in rain today haha

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It hits hard with banded wave crash

subtle rose
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then you need rocks (glimmora is kind of overkill)

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and pivoting

knotty cargo
chilly zealot
chilly zealot
subtle rose
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anything, really

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treads is pretty good

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pult is ok

chilly zealot
dry edge
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What is the idea behind the team? Kilo rain is alr but where do we go from there?

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I’m fine with criticism

solid quiver
frank anchor
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frank anchor
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i'm not an expert at all so take my input with a grain of salt

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green citrus
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Also 5 fairy weaks + corv is rough

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Maybe drop valiant for like..volcarona?

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Thats not rly a fire resist nvm but you get what im sayin

knotty cargo
#

Yeah I looked at the team and I’m like “3 darks worrywhirl

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“I’m sure it’s fine”

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My mind is an enigma

silk hamlet
knotty cargo
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I’m sure that can work

knotty cargo
silk hamlet
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tspikes likely

knotty cargo
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Alright then

main mauve
knotty cargo
green citrus
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Uh

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I mean

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Meow and ting are probably both droppable

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But meow is what ur building around right

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You could just restart from meow and keep the previous 3 issues in mind

Triple dark, fire resist, valiant weakness

knotty cargo
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Alright, I’ll see what I can do

sterile frost
main mauve
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i think pex j fits

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here

sterile frost
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Fine but I'm not happy about it 😡

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That came out more aggressive then I meant I'm sorry

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It was supposed to be the funny emoji

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proven hare
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HO around Thorns

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I like Thorns on HO coz it beats unawares (except if they tera)

solid quiver
fallow crag
fallow crag
# proven hare https://pokepast.es/452c7cfde00515d1

i think you would get more out of grimmsnarl screens than orthworm shed tailm especially with that volc in the back. is there a reason you are running rock blast over stone edge? surely stone edge is better here

solid quiver
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And could adamant chien pao work too

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Or is jolly better since don't got much speed control otherwise

proven hare
#

Also I replaced Volc with Moth

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Coz TSpikes really sucks for this team

fallow crag
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The worm is just super inconsistent

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Grimm helps more consistently

fallow crag
proven hare
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Any other issue with the team?

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I am considering SD Valiant

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As an alternative

fallow crag
#

Nah cm is def the good set

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I could see a case for psyshock > tbolt

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That’s about it

echo zodiac
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frank walrus
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both are phys bulk; you lose volt switch for unaware so you make your team have less tempo for unaware bulk

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rotund tinsel
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any issues with the team or weaknesses it has

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changes youd make

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criticism

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ig

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any advice or response at all majorly appreciated

frozen hinge
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It's like 4 am for the majority of people

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It's gonna be a while

rotund tinsel
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3:46 am rn

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for me

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lmao

rotund tinsel
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the main issue i have with my team rn

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is that its a bit weak to meow and gholdengo

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and also i have no special wall

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hatt lives 1 knock off tho

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dazzling gleam should always ohko meow

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tranquil sedge
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Originally had a Kingambit over Roaring Moon but swapped it out because of Gren meta.

green citrus
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U get draco meteor'd 6 times

tranquil sedge
#

This is true.

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Dirge/Moon are probably the most flexible/removable.

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I wanted Dirge to deal with Valiant and sweepers but it might be better to go with out-offensing it.

tranquil sedge
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Any other issues with the team?

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hot sapphire
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could you send the paste of the team you’re referring to that would be great

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drowsy mural
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Ummm

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Ok

supple forge
earnest dawn
earnest dawn
dry edge
# supple forge https://pokepast.es/df5497ab2f4b18d0

Looks a bit too weak to Espathra and Gholdengo. I was thinking we can do Earthquake > BPress on Tusk unless you really need Press for smth, that should help at least a bit vs Gholdengo

Dragonite is rather scary if we either remove Wisp from Rotom or if Rotom gets chipped. Maybe we can do Bulk Up Tera Water on Tusk? We already have Rocks on Garganacl and we prolly don't need both.

This way RotomW might be able to run Thunder Wave for Espathra and some other annoying stuff like Booster Energy Valiant.

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Just throwing ideas though. Sub Espathra would still be a huge issue but you can try to play around it with scream tail

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The other thing that comes to mind is tera steel Pex > Scream Tail.

Garg + Pex is an amazing core. And with Pex as a tspikes absorber you could afford to run leftis on tusk more freely

onyx sun
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Alr guys I have 1 wall breaker 2 physical sweepers and 2 stalls what should my last mon be

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rose hinge
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the basic idea is that greninja can kill dondozo and garganacl

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so ceruledge has an easier time

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tusk is hazard removal and also threatening attacker

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gambit can come in late game to try win with supreme overlord but also checks gholdengo

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hatterene is further hazard prevention

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iron moth was me trying to beat valiant but it hasnt been doing too well

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sd ceruledge can set up on common things like corv and go for a sweep or clean

ruby crest
main mauve
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not sure on last yet

rose hinge
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also pex gets killed by valiant tbolt doesnt it

ruby crest
ruby crest
rose hinge
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also ceruledge bulk up is really slow idk

ruby crest
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Also extranseory > u turn on gren

rose hinge
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oh do grens not use uturn?

ruby crest
ruby crest
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You want all moves

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Ice beam pump knot extranseory

rose hinge
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sensory for pex ig?

ruby crest
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Ye

frozen hinge
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Buff pex

ruby crest
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no

frozen hinge
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You've changed

ruby crest
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unfortunately I’m tired of pex as much as I don’t hate the Mon

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3 back to back

dry edge
# onyx sun https://pokepast.es/f1dfcdb4c7bb94d1

Big issue here with your mons not complementing each other offensively. You have no special breaker nor hazards so stall or balance builds with like Dondozo will give this a ton od trouble

Mons like this Ceruledge really need smth to help them handle Dozo + rest of Dozo's team

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You can try smth like NP CC Gholdengo last but that's not a sturdy answer to the rest of the problems like the shadow ball weakness

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Though I do think Ceru + NP Dengo should be good on paper, as the latter helps a lot with Dozo, Pex, Garganacl and Skeledirge

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You can maybe refocus the team with that perspective in mind?

onyx sun
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Kk

onyx sun
onyx sun
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So its ceru cc np dengo

onyx sun
subtle rose
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dengo beats those 4 mons

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which all beat ledge

onyx sun
#

oh

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What spread do u use for cc np dengo

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Ok so now most wall pokemon who fuck over ceru are not as much of a problem now what about ground

dry edge
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Gets played around a bit more easily

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I would have suggested specs on it and then smth else last but I am guessing the speed control part was big

onyx sun
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Not rlly

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At the time it was

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Then I added dragapult

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So I switched to specs

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So

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Rn the team I got is

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Holdon

dry edge
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I see, do you have the paste?

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Yee ty

onyx sun
dry edge
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Oh I meant the one with had with Dragapult earlier on

onyx sun
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Oh

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I scrapped the team

dry edge
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Oh

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Yeah it's weird, Ceruledge is this weird mon that can just win some games

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But then it struggles a lot vs the things it does struggle

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So it's really hard to fit on a team sometimes

onyx sun
#

M

dry edge
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We do prolly want a ground immune and hazarn control here

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Maybe the Tusk and Corvi from earlier could work?

onyx sun
#

Kk

dry edge
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I would also rather have either spdef corvi or smth like spdef RotomW

onyx sun
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So corvi or rotom?

dry edge
#

They help a bit vs shadow ball while giving you a pivot

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Yee either of them could be nice

onyx sun
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Im using rotom

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Damn idk

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Will or wisp

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Or defog

dry edge
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Doesn't get defog this gen

onyx sun
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yes he does

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Corvinight

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Im talking bout corvi

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Im tryna decide

dry edge
#

Oh I understand

onyx sun
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I like corvi

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But rotom w is good

dry edge
#

This EVs let you take 2 EQs from Clodsire and outspeed Pelipper

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You can also go faster, ik some run enough speed to hit 240

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That outspeeds Adamant Breloom

onyx sun
#

Kk

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Ok so

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Ceruledge

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Corvi

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Iron vali

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Actually

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Holdon

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Ceruledge

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Rotom W

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Great tusk

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And Iron vali

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@dry edge is that good?

sly mauve
drowsy mural
onyx sun
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@dry edge

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@daring violet

onyx sun
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is any comp helpers online]

agile lava
#

yea

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i got u

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@onyx sun

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did u come up with anything

agile lava
#

and teams good

agile lava
#

garg + clod +last

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itll help w gren

onyx sun
#

Back

onyx sun
#

Idk who my 6th slot is

onyx sun
#

@agile lava

agile lava
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garg

onyx sun
#

Kk

agile lava
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need rocks and something for chien

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just go max physde

#

f

onyx sun
agile lava
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curse eq

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is pretty cool

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on garg too

onyx sun
agile lava
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garg

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drowsy mural
azure swallow
#

Its well made and sruff

ionic crag
azure swallow
#

Its a good team

ionic crag
azure swallow
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Honestly outside of skeledirge not having throat spray, i think its a good team

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and even then, leftovers also work grest

supple forge
#

Skeledirge like never uses throat spray??

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rate it 1-10

sly mauve
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Setsu

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desert rock
#

how can i improve this team?

#

thinking of putting covert cloak on corv so it can set up on garganacl

cloud grotto
sly mauve
onyx sun
#

@dry edge

velvet path
#

help pls

sly mauve
#

It feels like I'm missing something

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Or I need to get rid of something

azure barn
#

tried some hazard stacking stuff

wanton root
#

@ruby crest

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trying to make this less tusk weak

rose hinge
wanton root
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252 Atk Great Tusk Headlong Rush vs. 252 HP / 172+ Def Amoonguss: 195-229 (45.1 - 53%) -- 28.1% chance to 2HKO

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252 Atk Great Tusk Headlong Rush vs. 252 HP / 172+ Def Amoonguss: 195-229 (45.1 - 53%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Stealth Rock

ruby crest
wanton root
#

so block garg?

ruby crest
#

kinda want to make garg something like pao or specs valiant for immediate breaker

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tho pao also maintains the ability to offensively check dengo

wanton root
#

tbf

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garg loses to dengo most of the time

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and I feel like switching it off makes me weaker into both pult and pao

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granted I have spdef hands but still

rose hinge
#

yeah garg struggles hard with dhengo since cloak is quite common iirc

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# elfin jungle https://pokepast.es/6338b11b0e791a9f

Not a fan of Court Change here on Ace given you have tankchomp setting up hazards and a spinner. Replace it with Gunk Shot, and go Tera Fire or Fighting on it. Replace breloom with amoonguss, make valiant psyshock > psychic and shadow ball > focus blast, and make gholdengo focus blast > gleam with either Tera fighting or Tera ghost.

proven hare
onyx sun
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Any sv ou raters on rn

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Uh

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Ifk

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Idk

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Idk if its bannable

surreal rose
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you dont really need to tag all of them

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just the ones online mainly

onyx sun
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Im un muted

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WOAH

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thats the server owner

surreal rose
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yea sorry for that

onyx sun
kind gulch
#

Thoughts on this snow team?

velvet path
main mauve
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Water shuriken is bad

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Meh it's still kinda bad

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Yea

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I would make ghold some diff spread

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Not max defense

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Cloak

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And np over focus blast

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U could go gknot over switcheroo on gren but I haven't used it much

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Used gren*

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Blissey is none existent

#

Smiling Faces (Gholdengo) @ Covert Cloak
Ability: Good as Gold
Tera Type: Fighting
EVs: 248 HP / 156 SpD / 104 Spe
Calm Nature
IVs: 0 Atk

  • Make It Rain
  • Shadow Ball
  • Nasty Plot
  • Recover
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But tera flying

green citrus
#

God so many pastes above i forgot to check here today

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Ill try to go through a bunch in the morning after class

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Apologies

cursive tiger
cursive tiger
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i can’t get it to paste 😭

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oh aight

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how’d u do that??

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yeah my issue is that button doesn’t work

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like i’ll hit it and it’ll say it’s an invalid thing

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ok ty

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bam

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ok

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but like how did you get that paste link??

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ye ik that won’t work

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is there a separate way??

severe shard
#

Will look more into these teams later today after work.

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light ice
#

Covert cloak is there also to try to avoid flinches and df drops from chienpao but i dont think this set cuts it

wanton root
#

Physdef tusk>treads and dozo>gastro

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That fixes the pao mu

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Also make corv full spdef

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Jugu shouldn’t be your only pult check

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After that it’s good

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Mirror is worse

light ice
#

Isnt scarf meow a decent enough pult check?

wanton root
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Pressure lets you force out rockers bc it means you have more pp on fog than they do on rocks

wanton root
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Lmao

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You die to anything that isn’t ball

light ice
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I mean jug does too so i was wonderimg

wanton root
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It doesn’t

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It’s rocks weak

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And has no recovery

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No it’s not

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It’s niche

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Not unusuable

light ice
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Yeah i meant to say that its not a check to draga

wanton root
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Wait why is treads there

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You already have removal and a ground

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Just go spdef garg

light ice
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Okok

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Ty

wanton root
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Actually wait no

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You need physdef for pao

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Just use the stealth rock importable

light ice
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Thx

wanton root
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Then make corv max spdef

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That also means you don’t need rocks on gastro

agile lava
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@light ice do u still need help

light ice
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Sorta

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If you have better advices and have nothing better to do ill gladly take it

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Otherwise dont worry

agile lava
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send what u have so far @light ice

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im bored as shit

light ice
wanton root
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Idbp is the worst set

onyx sun
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w team?

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Idk if I should add dozo

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I need a ground and fire wall

onyx sun
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@daring violet

green citrus
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Dmc nicknames are based

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Team is alil slow

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Also no actual ghost resist/dark resist hurts

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Like p badly

proven hare
viral sableBOT
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New OU RMT @worn arrow, @ruby crest, @fallow crag, @frigid sierra, @agile lava, @daring violet, @granite bear, @dry edge, @green citrus, @severe shard. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

green citrus
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Looks scary

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Super ground weak tho

proven hare
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I have my flying type

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Roaring Moon

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LMAO

green citrus
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It also CAN be volcarona weak, cant u drop moth for like

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Idk

proven hare
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Moth was for TSpikes

green citrus
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Hm

proven hare
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Which fucks my team hard

green citrus
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True

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Yeah

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Well tbf u do have

proven hare
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Any HO struggles with T Spikes

green citrus
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Glimmora

proven hare
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It doesn't stay alive for more than 2 turns

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So unreliable

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Grounds have seemed ok to me so far

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We don't let any ground come in for free

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Plus I have Tera'ed moon more than others

green citrus
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Tinglu comes in on a lot

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But fair

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Ill try it out later today

proven hare
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And its not for grounds

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Ting-lu is like

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It tries to whirlwind Moon

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Only to be Taunted

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And set up on

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Steel Beam on Gholden is a nice lure for Ting Lu too, and maintains momentum

rain gyro
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(How do i ping)

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@ruby crest (you seem to be the only online rater and the bot did not ping so lmao)

ruby crest
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Booo

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I don’t really like the structure of this and some mons are odd

ruby crest
rain gyro
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and i only now realized that 💀

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also

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quaq i presume

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it's my fav mon to use in comps

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lol...

ruby crest
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Since this team is from an outdated meta I would honestly say start fresh cause one or two changes won’t be enough tbh

rain gyro
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i'll get back at you eventually if it's fine?

ruby crest
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Yeah

tropic ice
drowsy mural
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Unaware breaking

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Could slap stored power hat over valiant to break even better but what y'all think

dry edge
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There's similar teams with Grimm + Worm though either without a spinner or with Tusk, like the sample

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Big issue with treads is that it won't be able to negate hazards from ting-lu nor Meowscarada, i.e. the main Pokemon that get hazards against Grimmsnarl

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You can defo try smth like Espathra over it

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I do wonder why tera ghost on Rona though

drowsy mural
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Mainly for a dnite that somehow set up and I gotta will it late

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But I don't think I'd need it if I terra ghost into Orthworm tbh

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Might just go with fairy

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What should I replace with treads btw ? I was thinking I needed something that could hard switch into gholdengo at least but maybe something more offensive

dry edge
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Well you have Bulky Fast Rona, that should help with Dengo

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If you want smth else that would fit on that team then Roaring Moon could work

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Yee Tera Ghost defo helps with Dnite

rain gyro
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248 + 152 + 36

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Less thats intended lol

hasty fable
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also noivern has a funny calc vs dnite

drowsy mural
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@rain gyro I noticed 2 things weren't when I pasted from PC to my phone

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Something odd happened there lol

rain gyro
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Oh lol

drowsy mural
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Orthworm wasn't max HP before

rose hinge
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and noivern is specs and will probably be in and out of the game alot so you're gonna want rocks gone

hasty fable
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yeah

rose hinge
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that being said im not too sure who to recommend

hasty fable
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noivern is kinda just there tbh

rose hinge
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i can see it doing ok in ou tbh

hasty fable
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i usually just use it for u-turn

rose hinge
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tera boomburst probably hurts

hasty fable
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it does

rose hinge
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other than that its basically identical to pult

hasty fable
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terra normal dnite as well

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without multiscale dnite dies to terra normal boomburst

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kinda sucks because you either lose 1 point in special attack or speed

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slower than meowscarada sucks

rose hinge
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and if you dont tera then dnite is clicking ice spinner or something

dry edge
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Think is okay, mostly cause Ace and Pao invite in Dondozo, Pex and Great Tusk a lot, all of which Noivern can take advantage of

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Is there any reason for twave over wisp on Rotom?

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Seems like Wisp might be better since you struggle a bit with Dnite

hasty fable
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most of the offensive ou mons cant survive terra boom burst

dry edge
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Alr then, but would defo consider wisp since Dnite looks like a nightmare

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Tera Steel or Dark on Clod would also be alr to cover Espathra (also an issue)

hasty fable
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been bless with not seeing that mon