#[DO NOT USE][ARCHIVED] SV OU Rates
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Noted
Also ye the nature on Volc was a mistake lol
i usually dont bring in skeledirge till mid game(or emergency pao check)
That's fine but if that's your way of dealing with Pao then you should prolly do it early instead of expecting a 1v1 which will prolly only happen if Pao already took down a mon
garg also doesnt resist rocks
wait does rock seriously not resists rock
man that's wack
yes
alright thanks for the tips
https://pokepast.es/51d980053af30a9c how can I improve this?
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how can I improve this? I think I need to swap glimmora for something, but I don't know what. I am very rarely getting hazard value https://pokepast.es/e59a850600330929
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yo
is my team ok
kinda weak to volcarona
ahh 3d got this one
hm what should i change then
i’d probably replace tinglu with clodsire
and
scizor w garg
to keep the pult answee
answer
ok
oh i did that on accidnt
if your trying to go for webs you honestly would have to get rid of washer and ting lu here since you want slower heavy hitters cleaners to make use for them
any suggestions?
fix up masqurain moveset quiver dance > stun spore, hurricane > air slash, and pump > whirlwind
also ive switched hatterene to dragonite
@ruby crest you able to rate this team?
https://pokepast.es/402228909e198e5f @ruby crest @green citrus
I had Dozo > Washer originally
Thots? @green citrus @fallow crag @ruby crest
https://pokepast.es/079fb368aa6302fd
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weird chien pao and pex set, lilligant aint good in ou
hey i'm new to OU, from VGC, i somewhat understand how it works but i could take some suggestions
i thinking of running scarf GT in order to outspeed chien pao and scarf gholdengo
https://pokepast.es/ec1b2e3a3009c304
Any tips into how this team can be improved?
sash glimmora is very much a hard hyper offence pick, usually would go with stuff like gholdengo to keep its hazards up + other high pressue mons
dnite is a fine pick with it, i would change up the rest of the team
I would make amoongus covert cloak for a better garganacl matchup, and make volcarona wisp > giga with tera fairy or fire. Wisp Volc + Garg is one of the most broken cores rn, well worth running.
Its a little Chien Pao weak but what isnt i guess. Tera Fairy Volc can patch that up somewhat.
Relies a bit too much on Azu to break which can suck if they have an amoongus.
could do specs pult too or smth
https://pokepast.es/045e1bc8ec4fe2fa
Find myself having to dance around special attackers like cm valiant
specs pelipper also proved to be a really big threat but idk if that's a real thing
Giga drain volc also proved to be rather difficult to stop
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Semi Rain BO
the team looks good, i would say whats the main purpose of ting lu?
Hazards and Pult check
I had TankChomp initially
But was weak to Pult
So I went Ting Lu
fair I would say the team is pretty standard rain, I understand Gholdengo's role as well, maybe the only thing I would fix is hatterane and go for the calm mind set and make it tera type water for opposing water mons
Oh ok
I thought Healing Wish was nice for Floatzel though
Since Wave Crash wears it down
instead of mystical fire on the standard set id go with nuzzle / healing wish
And Eject button Brings in Floatzel easily and unexpectedly
fair
Yeah like I said I think the team is well built my only hard change is going tera water for sure, I don't mind the eject healing wish set tbh maybe more defensive evs
but tbh aside from that team looks good, or even give ting lu tera water
prob hatt tho because ground is important for tinglu
Sounds cool
I thought of Juglis over Kilo. How about that?
I like Electrics in rain to pressure bulky waters, but Juglis gives me a Dark type. Then maybe I could go TankChomp over TingLu to spread more chip with Helmet + Skin
I think both options are valid and worth trying
I think the current build of the team though is optimal if you wanted to use it
I do think Jug > Kilo is fair and I do think Chomp > Ting Lu is a fair double replacement
fax
True that
Oh yeah
It compresses Electric, Hazards, Pivot in 1 slot
yep
All important for rain
would rather run boots or lefties on tusk, covert cleak on amoong, and maybe tera ghost wisp on rotom
or tera steel
ur only breaking power is chien tho and u have a hard time getting it in
https://pokepast.es/2ab801607053d005 Something I threw together, trying to make a balanced team with at least Great Tusk and Chien Pao on board, any suggestions is helpful
https://pokepast.es/54a53c58b72b1379 im gonna start playing OU again
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yo! this is my new rain team, ive been using it some today and i really like it so far! lmk what you guys think!
becuase its cool!
and its worked p well for me!
<3
with that garg set rain stays up p much the whole game lol
why kilowatrell?
idk dnites going crazy rn
i appreciate your suggestoing though
fr
ill look into kilo
yeah i tried that for awhile
but i struggle with defensive type mons
and as lazy as it sounds i really value the "click funny button" mentality
i dont like how it takes like 60% from meowscarada so im probably gonna take your advice and struggle with patience lmao
well heres the idea behind boots
my team doesnt have a spinner
so i really value swapping in constantly to put the rain back up without taking 25 from rocks yk?
but ig now that i say that i realize why uturn is so useful
i think im swapping up the bird now lmao
im suprised you had nothing to say ab tera blast grass thing
true
lmao
resists electric and handles other watertypes
id run electric if it had any electric moves lmfao
so if i did add the birb
im thinking defensive tera and ice beam..
beuh
bruh
my brother in christ
im discussing peliper
defensive kilowatrell makes me want to throw up
cry even
holy fuck
this thingn learns weather ball
i think we have ourselves a winner
could it be?
the last slot finally filled?
naming it Thunder-T at home
lmfao
cant decide if im going full send
or playing it safe
thunder or nah
and what item?
too many possiblities
eh ill figure it out im sure
https://pokepast.es/0d085ecdd5ccec6a can someone rate this team?
oh true
Thunderous at home (Kilowattrel) @ Heavy-Duty Boots
Ability: Volt Absorb
Tera Type: Flying
EVs: 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Timid Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Thunder
- Hurricane
- Weather Ball
- Volt Switch
does this fit your requirements o birb master
lmfao
poggers
still getting used to it
he's not doing so good atm lmao
ur good fam
i appreciate the help!
will it's not that it isn't powerful
i just need to master its placement
like i did with wash
i hated using it at first
but i tried loads of sets until i realized wow i can literally do whatever i want with this thing
I'm sure i could do that with birb
yeah i cannot handle that mon
just not for me at all
that and toxapex
which is a shame bc i love the merciless ability
bit it just never ever packs enoigh punch even w the crits
That’s the smogon ev spread for it
sash on breloom is fine
Not sure what the 16 atk is for tbh, I just invest the rest in def ngl
thats a very strange spread
It’s a bulky bu set
Usually it runs poison tera for stuff like amoong
It’s honestly nb
But you don’t really get chances to use quaq unless it’s on like rain
back to the team if you're running sash breloom as a lead why also run screens and glim
sash breloom doesnt always need to be lead?
yea ideally grimm blocks hazards w taunt or smt
hi velgoat
which is fine
the idea is to play 6-5 with screens and hazards up
or 6-4
sash breloom that doesn't lead seems like a waste of an item slot
sashes help HO preserve some form of longevity and revenge killing ability
Grimm is fine I believe as a lead mon here, I would say you could try going poison terra on it in case you ever run into tspike users or opposing glimm.
As for glimmora here I think it’s best to run like Air Balloon as its item of choice as you can come into ground moves or force them to use another physical move like knock to have tspikes on the opposing side, you could also run great tusk as another option for hazard setter and removal here as well.
For Breloom you typically wanna run like a band set, you could also LO and in some cases I’ve seen some loaded dice as its item but not too much of a fan of it. Personally I don’t really like running loom on HO cause of its speed tier in the meta, I think you could easily replace it with something like either gholdengo or for extra hazards on field you could try out meowscarada boots u turn with spikes over in place of loom.
Quaq I feel could be replaced also with a faster sweeper such as Chien Pao or one that generally has higher damage input like Dragonite over it. Baxcalibur is also a decent option but the speed tier is what sets it back a bit.
Kinggambit I think is cool, you could swap between black glasses or lefties over boots but I kinda get why it’s boots since you’re tera flying.
@low quarry
oh thanks
https://pokepast.es/b769f42f3d002fbb (version 1 with glimm)
https://pokepast.es/6422cdd3e33201f8 (version 2 with tusk)
@low quarry
the second team you could replace meow with like gambit/chien if you don’t like hazard stack as much, and ig Chien or gambit could be good instead since you’re running screens
Thanks!
These are without meow
But anything between like tusk/glimm and gambit slot is all up to you @low quarry
Im gonna run Tusk and King
You could also axe out Grimm as well if you ever feel like you don’t need it, and in that case you could go with another fast sweeper like Chien pao or meow for further hazard stack with spikes @low quarry
One of those two are fine, bax also exists as a hard hitter as well.
https://pokepast.es/d609799fb5a6163a
could ya help me too?
im not velvet but i would recommend sub over taunt on cereludge
sash just isn't a good item on tusk run vest or lefties
its hyper offense
Sash is fine in a team like this one
you know better than i do so
Not many changes needed tbh maybe just 1-2 things.
Ceruledge HO I think is pretty fun, and the evs you put on your mons are all fine tbh.
Really the only thing that could change is the valiant set here, aura sphere isn’t really gonna be hitting anything much since moonblast for the most part already hits mons like ting lu, Chien pao, and gambit hard. Really the only thing you’re hitting with sphere is maybe an orthworm which is pretty uncommon. The tera type imo with cm set should be electric with thunderbolt over aura sphere as you’re not weak to gholdengo once you do tera to electric typing and lastly I believe psyshock is preferred over psychic to hit Clodsire and blissey.
Tusk is fine, if you want you could run stealth rocks if you want to but nothing else much to add aside from that.
As mentioned I think ceruledge is cool and since you’re screens I did make other options for it as well like volcarona over ceruledge to make use of screens + the bulky set it runs with quiver dance. Roost dnite is also one other option but I feel volc is nice with the giga drain set as that’s another mon that could help you deal with Dondozo aside from taunt bulk up ceru.
https://pokepast.es/97ec86c45f392f61
This is the other version I was talking about with volc.
And I have one other option I had replaced ceru with, and that’s with orthworm itself. You can make use of screens + being under sub and hazards on field to help espa gather kills and gain boosts.
https://pokepast.es/bd847af035b43f18
Which would be this one
i think i made a rlly nice team. rate?
https://pokepast.es/96b1ae0c9a6bb340
But otherwise the team looks fun aside from those edits, not much to change minus valiant mainly.
forgot to change Ttar's teratype to fairy
https://pokepast.es/0d085ecdd5ccec6a hi could someone rate this team?
i updated my team
https://pokepast.es/152ade7a08a23a4b
ursaring and mismagius isnt really good in ou and ur ttar set is weird
Ok so
i'll have to do more trial and error
There’s a lot of things wrong here
I’m assuming this is supposed to be screens ho right?
ho?
Hyper offense
Basically you run 1-2 dedicated support mons and 4 wincons
The goal is to take momentum early and end the game fast
The thing about it tho is because of how momentum dependent it is choice items aren’t usually a good choice
Because that provides your opp with opportunities to switch around whatever you click
There’s also just some generally odd choices
Like rock ttar
What do you want to keep
Outside of magius and ursaring
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might be cooking with this one ngl
https://pokepast.es/3542c1828dd98c33
I'm been struggling with tera flying nasty plot gholdengo, any tips?
May I post?
https://pokepast.es/03c280b685e3d48b basically just a switch based team with walls and stuff
Actually this team sucks
Also I keep forgetting to put tera types on my mons
eq > body press on tusk and lftovers, tera steel
surf and bunker > chill and haze on pex, and do covert cloak over sludge
wisp > giga on volc and drop the speed to around 260, and then go bold with more defence. For tera u cn do fire or fairy.
change rotoms tera type to smth to cover whatever weakness u may feel after
this is kind of a big issue with stall in general, u can have a semi-check and wincon type thing like volcarona on it to try and mitigate this issue.
Who should I remove for volc?
hm
i guess...try skeledirge? and then maybe dozo over alo
stall is difficult so sorry if i cannot provide much info
Np, thanks for the feedback
speaking of stall/semi
especially with chien pao running around, this team gets destroyed by CB crunches
like instantly
Actually what do you think of switching corviknight
does the playstyle need speed control
no it doesnt need speed control
but i think winconcs like dirge/dozo/volc etc are kinda needed
I feel like my team is gonna be bad against fairys
Garg and dirge
unless u count teras, in which case there is uh, skeledirge, garganacal, volcarona, annnndndddddd rarely rotom
I see, I feel more confident now thank you
I was thinking maybe cloak ih corv
idk on stall i feel like you wanna fit both volc and garg if you go with volc
but it prob works
you need blissey beacuse clod can't handle all the spatckers
garg is also a special wall lol
eh, i found garg to be too unreliable as a special wall, but never hurts to test em out
https://pokepast.es/7c806257e4637f2c unsure about the dondozo slot, rain is kinda giving me a tough time and if that slot isn't a water resist (was testing Blissey) then Azu kinda 6-0s me
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I've had success with the team but it kinda just feels like dozo isn't exactly doing as much as it could be doing
I’ll review this in a bit rn
Ok 👍
Im still pretty new to this but I really like this type of team https://pokepast.es/becbd79df896626f
Sorry for being late, team looks kinda interesting.
Firstly meowscarada scarf I used to see a lot then but as hazard stack became more abused in the tier it’s really kinda hard to have it just run scarf without having to take hazard damage, what you could do is run boots to come in and pivot out whenever. Another thing with meow slot, I do kinda feel it does lack that hitting potential compared to other hard hitters in the meta which kinda makes the team a bit weak on the phys offensive side imo, so something like band Chien pao or standard boots pao could work great here, you could also run banded dnite or even scarf trick valiant if you’re looking for speed control.
Gholdengo set is good, however I do think running max hp and spe could be the way here as you don’t wanna put yourself in a situation where you’re always losing in a ghold vs ghold situation, there’s not a set ev spread for ghold yet but I think this could still perform just as well. One other thing you could potentially do with ghold is have it be tera fighting as well to be able to deal with Chien or gambit.
Volc is nice the way it is, wisp helps a bit vs offensive teams. You mentioned a rain weakness earlier, well, volc can sorta help with that as it has other options like a giga drain set with terra grass typing that you could take advantage of here. You also want a different EV spread since 32 timid is still being outsped by corviknight which is something players take account for with volc. IMO I think we can run 152 spe evs here as you’re hitting 174 which outspeed corvi and the rest into defense while HP stays at 248, so it’d be 248 hp / 108 def / 152 spe bold nature.
For garg I think running max spdef could help you a bit with special hitters like pult or valiant here, I’d also recommend running a different tera type as well as with ghost tera you’re making yourself vulnerable to ghost or dark type attacks from Chien or other threats. Fairy type could work here to be able to tank dark moves from Chien.
I think the reason you’re having issues with rain and your Dondozo is mainly because of your set here, you’re running protect which really isn’t helping Dondozo here making it a useless slot. Sleep Talk over protect here is best to be able to use moves while in your sleep so that way you can set up or land crash on mons. Another option for Dondozo is you could also make it full phys def instead of spdef to tank physical mons better than before, curse set is still decent on it but you could run body press over curse if you’d like also.
Lastly for your great tusk I think you might as well run max hp and def since that’s what your ev spread shows what you’re trying to use for the most part, a defensive tusk. I think you could make use of this tusk here and run a bulk up rapid set over ice spinner here which makes it an annoying phys tank to deal with vs offensive mons.
https://pokepast.es/d941eb2733fb6bef (with meow)
https://pokepast.es/ee0fad045f29a48e (wispless volc)
@night zodiac
I was just about to say I implemented (most of) the changes lol
For the second one i replaced meow with a fast pivot, figured pult could be decent as you can burn and have volc be able to set up with giga + fire move that way.
Also fiery dance probably is better on volc than flamethrower as it raises your spa
Ye I was gonna see if it were possible to still have meow there without jeopardizing the functionality of the squad
Also I was unsure if I'd need to get rid if wisp in favor of giga drain, cuz wisp volc has been amazing for me
But then flame has more pp so idk
Wisp volc is good
It just depends on the team
Understandable
You could also run curse on dozo if you still want to, up to you
https://pokepast.es/4a99456e60b1b7b2
The first slot is very flexible tbh, this one is with CB Dnite which I found kinda fun
Ik most wisp volcs run Fiery Dance as their fire moves ye, I just like flame personally since it's stronger and has more pp mainly plus you'll still be boosting with qd
Mhm
Looks fun lol
I'll be sure to try it out, thanks for giving me a better understanding :) (with everything lol not just the volc thing)
Appreciate your help
https://pokepast.es/5deb79f191c54683 gen 9 ou team ft. Flareon because it needs more love. I know Flareon is ass, but I wanted to build around it because it’s my favorite eeveelution
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flareon is def not viable
this team needs a shadow ball switchin more than anything
id suggest roaring moon > pult
and if u really want a strong fire type
just go with cb cinderace
What should I replace for cinderace
i agree with everything 3d is saying but tbh scovillian might be better over cinderace
flareon needs to go
Yeah that’s completely fair
In the matches I was testing the team on, it wasn’t doing anything
God why is Flareon so ass
its just not really viable in ou
lmao
I just thought I’d try something new
fair
Why did they do Flareon so dirty
scovillian or cinderace will work as replacements
Alright
they did flareon dirty for so long
Sad
maybe longer tbh
but yeah i also agree with 3d on going for a ghost resist on the team
Flareon needs more physical moves, and actual speed
roaring moon is a solid replacement for pult
Even at +1 I struggled to outspeed anything
That’s fair
The pult spread should be the spdef one on the analysis right
roaring moon you mean?
lmao
i would follow the smogon analysis prob go with the roost / dd / crunch or jaw lock / eq or iron head
if u want more of a pivoting set you can go with choice scarf or choice band with uturn
Alright
Oh ye np o/
Is gallade viable this gen?
its great in uu
you can probably mess with it on screens in ou
they dont really do the same things
valiant is mostly special anyway
sharpness gallade hits insanely hard
Oh yeah forgot it got sharpness
yea sharpnessless gallade is a huge lol momwnt
https://pokepast.es/47c9c367bcb4a45f Gotta figure out who to make my main tera, thinking of swapping shadow ball for tera blast and making skeledirge tera ghost
why stack torch song and flame thrower? and you have no reliable hazard removal, so i'd recommend boots on dirge, and changing tera to fairy
There's too much going with the team rn. As pointed out above both Torch Song and Flamethrower on Skele is a bit redundant, and doing Tera Blast Tera Ghost doesn't make much sense. You don't need a main tera, just give your team the appropiate ones and you'll end up clicking one or two more than the rest without over focusing on it.
No need for Naive Valiant as you only have special attacks, Timid is fine. No hazard control seems rough; Tusk over either Skele or Pex can prolly work decently well.
https://pokepast.es/242b832f1e8eb773
i cooked up the blimp set myself so i made this team that centers around tusk getting removed
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can you explain the evs on blim
https://pokepast.es/7268163169a976e6 set I have had decent success with in ou so far. But I am pretty new to competitive in general and want to make it better (i dont know how)
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can I ask why you have meaningless EVs in Garganacl and Great Tusk?
EVs increase stats in multiples of 4
it is purely because I don't really know how evs work
see above, also smogon has sample sets that you can take EVs from if you would like
Ok, I'll change those 2 back to their respective suggested values
as for the team comp
for the cat i would use tera dark > tera grass, it is generally better
garg is fine once you clean up the EVs, though I personally prefer tera fairy on it
for that iron moth set, I would run Energy Ball > Discharge and Morning Sun > Tera Blast with Tera Grass instead of Water
I think you'll find more success with boots/leftovers on Kingambit alongside Tera Flying and Swords Dance > Brick Break
I like the idea of Ice Spinner on Tusk but Knock Off is generally more effective, though I could see it having a place on this team
oh, great suggestion on tera flying kingambit. I can definitely see how that would be great
on CurseTalk Dondozo, generally I prefer full SpD investment, but for the purposes of this team, I can understand the set you have there
tera ghost garg is normally seen on spikestack stuff which you dont have so im not sure why you are running ghost
I think i missed that tusk had knock off. that is good to know
yup it is a good move for a good mon
just to explain how EVs work so you don't go off too confused
EVs increase stats in multiples of 4, so 4 Attack EVs will increase your Attack stat by 1
Natures increase/decrease a stat by 10%, so a Jolly nature on a Pokemon with 300 Attack and 200 Special Attack will result in 330 Attack and 180 Special Attack
roughly
cool, thanks for all the tips
np
for scarf tusk (if it exists)
it doesn't
well the whole point of blim is to shut down tusk
so what should be the ideal iv spread
max def or atk def
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Ok yeah this team is dog shit
Seen that on sun actually
This is singles ou rmt not doubles ou
Running scarf on Rotom means you’ll get chipped by rocks quickly, and you definitely don’t want poison point on clodsire
https://pokepast.es/f9aa71612fa1afec
idk if im high but i struggle with both ceruledge and gholdengo, both of which get outsped by specs glim with a speed boosting nature
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I want to change the toxipex on my team because I think rotom w is doing fine enough at its role. Is it a good idea tho? https://pokepast.es/03c280b685e3d48b
Would Status cleansing be a good idea, because Chien pao getting burned/Para really sucks
theres no cleric moves i think
Dang
Well any suggestions? Taxipex isn't really that fun to use and it is to similar to rotom w in my opinion to use defensively
Here’s my SV OU team, please give me a lot of critiques but I know I’m weak to Dragapult and scream tail so rate my team!

https://pokepast.es/9d0af0c47e15ddc0
There's a lot here that's just barely wrong so I'll give my thoughts. Glimmora doesn't really have a place on this team, as this is more BO if anything. I'd look to replace it with Iron Defense Garganacl. Physically defensive tusk should run body press > brick break and earthquake > headlong rush to avoid the drops. I also prefer Knock > stealth rock and moving rocks to clodsire over gunk shot. I don't know what tera dark does but it ain't good, I think tera ground is best for that set. Breloom is a weird one, I think it should probably be a chien pau but it's fine for your purposes. If you do keep it, make it close combat > rock tomb. Tera dark does nothing on clodsire, I'd go with tera flying or tera ground. Finally, I don't think pure offensive volcarona fits the team best; physically defensive volcarona gets you a lot more value
I’m taking your advice well, the only thing is that I’m running both knock off and rocks on tusk if that’s what you meant, but here’s the final product
Ah I meant run spin + knock, no rocks on tusk
That's why I suggested rocks on clod to make up for it
Very cool tho, sorry for the massive changes
Ah um
The volcarona spread still ain't it let me find the good one
alr
Volcarona @ Heavy-Duty Boots
Ability: Flame Body
Tera Type: Grass
EVs: 248 HP / 108 Def / 152 Spe
Timid Nature
- Quiver Dance
- Morning Sun
- Fiery Dance
- Giga Drain
This is generally considered to be the best available rn for volc
I was looking at morning sun, how much does it heal with no weather?
Ohh
Generally it's better thougu
Cause sun is the most common weather
And volc ain't great into rain anyways
teammates for quaquaval?
Something that lures Dondozo and Ammongus
CB Chien Pao lures the former
Valiant for the latter
Actually
This build could be fun. Ngl
wait why would quaq want bozo lured in
Coz it doesn't do anything to Bozo
Band Pao, Valiant, Bulk Up Quaq, Tusk, Pult, Corv is nice
but then what do i use to kill the bozo
any particular tusk set btw
Defensive could work
https://pokepast.es/53bee60aacec8545
I suck at sun teams, how do I make this better ?
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@green citrus how is it?
Where's its switch in?
It can revenge kill so many faster stuff, and Trick the Scarf vs stall
i mean sure, but normal specs val still has that absurd speed tier
and u can use zor to rk the same things (cpao, mainly)
Scarf Valiant isn't forced out by Pao, Pult , Moon
yea but scarf val is stupid weak
Let me try both and see actually
and losing fighting move
kinda sucks
cuz that val set cant hit either dengo OR gambit
well with specs u 2hko corv without tbolt
and then u can afford sball > tbolt for dengo
thats not bad
what does val do into volc tbh
moon walls it anyways
dont diss
smh
ok but i think in that slot to go along with the hazards u could just
Will o wisp
do scarf dengo
and achieve
like the exact same thing but still have some power
cuz scarf timid dengo should be faster then 99% of the volcs at +1
hi i made a funny rain team
it's got some problems that really need ironing out so some pointers would really be appreciated
https://pokepast.es/616c58b37f588a52
idk why but I rlly like Floatzel in rain today haha
It hits hard with banded wave crash
I think pelipper + killo + float is a good place to start from rain
then you need rocks (glimmora is kind of overkill)
and pivoting
https://pokepast.es/c3222b7bebd457d8 cooked up this team ft. Meowscarada because I love meowscarada
glimm's mostly there to absorb toxic spikes. i tried using amoonguss but it didn't really work on my team
aside from that, any suggestions for pivoting?
https://pokepast.es/8c56363066e5af7a
Replaced Breloom for Pivot Meowscarada. i really want something that can absorb spore. i was considering dhengo but decided against it
Floatzel Band > Azu
I feel like this is all over the place rn.
Fairy Garg + Pex just beats this down. Glimmora + such passive stuff can end up being unproductive. Tusk for example loses to most things on the team yet it is able to outspeed Azu and live any 1 hit from Pao and Meow, so it can get a spin rather reliably.
What is the idea behind the team? Kilo rain is alr but where do we go from there?
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My first team I tried to make
I’m fine with criticism
https://pokepast.es/4748d4373adf4e95
Could I make corviknight brave bird over u turn? I alr got 2 good pivots in cinder and rotom so wondering
Grimm, and probably Espathra because i think it has good synergy with screens?
sorry, i forgot to respond💀
And in general how could I improve this team? Would appreciate any suggestions
i'd say in most cases you would rather run brave bird or body press, not both. a slow uturn is also very valuable alongside a fast uturn user
i'm not an expert at all so take my input with a grain of salt
ok i know i want to keep Magius and Grimm, i don't mind if Ursaring goes
https://pokepast.es/c3222b7bebd457d8 ou team ft. Meowscarada because meowscarada is cool
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Not a bad start, but uh, no fire resist hurts
Also 5 fairy weaks + corv is rough
Maybe drop valiant for like..volcarona?
Thats not rly a fire resist nvm but you get what im sayin
Yeah I looked at the team and I’m like “3 darks
“
“I’m sure it’s fine”
My mind is an enigma
iron moth maybe?
I’m sure that can work
Which moth set do I use
tspikes likely
Alright then
Is there any way to replace a dark type from the team? Having 3 darks kinda rubs me the wrong way
Uh
I mean
Meow and ting are probably both droppable
But meow is what ur building around right
You could just restart from meow and keep the previous 3 issues in mind
Triple dark, fire resist, valiant weakness
Alright, I’ll see what I can do
https://pokepast.es/03c280b685e3d48b is there any mon that I can replace toxipex with I don't like it
Fine but I'm not happy about it 😡
That came out more aggressive then I meant I'm sorry
It was supposed to be the funny emoji
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https://pokepast.es/2346baa4c4b7e91a should I make gholdengo spedef, and if so keep same moveset? And should I make Garga tera fairy? Appreciate any advice for the team in general
i honestly really like this team, but yeah i think tera fairy on garg is the best option for you
i think you would get more out of grimmsnarl screens than orthworm shed tailm especially with that volc in the back. is there a reason you are running rock blast over stone edge? surely stone edge is better here
Ty, and would spedef gholdy work better since I got def corv and def rotom w?
And could adamant chien pao work too
Or is jolly better since don't got much speed control otherwise
I just took it from analysis. I am thinking of Stone Edge though coz Rock Blast never hits enough when you most need it to
Honestly Volc was just filler. Is Grimm generally better than Orth?
Also I replaced Volc with Moth
Coz TSpikes really sucks for this team
Keep it as phys def.
Up to you, both work. I would run adamant but jolly has its merits
Cool
Any other issue with the team?
I am considering SD Valiant
As an alternative
Nah cm is def the good set
I could see a case for psyshock > tbolt
That’s about it
Hello, for this team I’m considering replacing either Washtom or Garganacl, but I am terrible at teambuilding and don’t know what to replace it with, or even how. Please feel free to let me know of any faults with this team, and how I can improve. Thanks! https://pokepast.es/33757ab831d10748
dozo seems like a good swap for rotom
both are phys bulk; you lose volt switch for unaware so you make your team have less tempo for unaware bulk
https://pokepast.es/d104bb9bf675be2f can someone rate this team?
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https://pokepast.es/08f316aebc866eeb can you rate this team?
any issues with the team or weaknesses it has
changes youd make
criticism
ig
any advice or response at all majorly appreciated
the main issue i have with my team rn
is that its a bit weak to meow and gholdengo
and also i have no special wall
hatt lives 1 knock off tho
dazzling gleam should always ohko meow
tysm man, appreciate it!
Decided to make a Sandy Shocks Volt Turn and was curious if I could get a rate.
https://pokepast.es/23557480cc17375d
EDIT: Changed the team around a bit to handle Pult better.
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Originally had a Kingambit over Roaring Moon but swapped it out because of Gren meta.
U get draco meteor'd 6 times
This is true.
Dirge/Moon are probably the most flexible/removable.
I wanted Dirge to deal with Valiant and sweepers but it might be better to go with out-offensing it.
Any other issues with the team?
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https://pokepast.es/cedccd162d610f1f thoughts?
could you send the paste of the team you’re referring to that would be great
https://pokepast.es/a6ba79993e8d28a1 what should i change
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I think garchomp should have a move luke fire fang. It would hit more, give you a chance to flinch and take advantage of garchomp's big attack stat
love the glimmora idea , i would maybe put ep over sludge wave so you can hit gholdengo on the switch
dark on clod is good for espathra and rock tomb is genuinely good to catch volc on the switch
Looks a bit too weak to Espathra and Gholdengo. I was thinking we can do Earthquake > BPress on Tusk unless you really need Press for smth, that should help at least a bit vs Gholdengo
Dragonite is rather scary if we either remove Wisp from Rotom or if Rotom gets chipped. Maybe we can do Bulk Up Tera Water on Tusk? We already have Rocks on Garganacl and we prolly don't need both.
This way RotomW might be able to run Thunder Wave for Espathra and some other annoying stuff like Booster Energy Valiant.
Just throwing ideas though. Sub Espathra would still be a huge issue but you can try to play around it with scream tail
The other thing that comes to mind is tera steel Pex > Scream Tail.
Garg + Pex is an amazing core. And with Pex as a tspikes absorber you could afford to run leftis on tusk more freely
Alr guys I have 1 wall breaker 2 physical sweepers and 2 stalls what should my last mon be
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the basic idea is that greninja can kill dondozo and garganacl
so ceruledge has an easier time
tusk is hazard removal and also threatening attacker
gambit can come in late game to try win with supreme overlord but also checks gholdengo
hatterene is further hazard prevention
iron moth was me trying to beat valiant but it hasnt been doing too well
sd ceruledge can set up on common things like corv and go for a sweep or clean
So Bu boots edge > sash, covert cloak pex > moth, physdef tusk > offensive
idk if ceruledge is bulky enough to run around and bulk up but ill try
also pex gets killed by valiant tbolt doesnt it
It is surprisingly with boots
You can take one non tera and can switch to something else
also ceruledge bulk up is really slow idk
Also extranseory > u turn on gren
oh do grens not use uturn?
It’s bettter it can actually check stuff with tera and a good at checking volc too
Not really
You want all moves
Ice beam pump knot extranseory
sensory for pex ig?
Ye
Buff pex
no
You've changed
Big issue here with your mons not complementing each other offensively. You have no special breaker nor hazards so stall or balance builds with like Dondozo will give this a ton od trouble
Mons like this Ceruledge really need smth to help them handle Dozo + rest of Dozo's team
You can try smth like NP CC Gholdengo last but that's not a sturdy answer to the rest of the problems like the shadow ball weakness
Though I do think Ceru + NP Dengo should be good on paper, as the latter helps a lot with Dozo, Pex, Garganacl and Skeledirge
You can maybe refocus the team with that perspective in mind?
Kk
Is choice specs vali not a wall breaker?
Since you pointed out all the flaws im restarting the ceru team
So its ceru cc np dengo
“as the latter helps with a lot with dozo pex garg and skele” what do u mean by that?
oh
What spread do u use for cc np dengo
Ok so now most wall pokemon who fuck over ceru are not as much of a problem now what about ground
It is but yours is scarf
Gets played around a bit more easily
I would have suggested specs on it and then smth else last but I am guessing the speed control part was big
Not rlly
At the time it was
Then I added dragapult
So I switched to specs
So
Rn the team I got is
Holdon
Oh I meant the one with had with Dragapult earlier on
Oh
Yeah it's weird, Ceruledge is this weird mon that can just win some games
But then it struggles a lot vs the things it does struggle
So it's really hard to fit on a team sometimes
M
We do prolly want a ground immune and hazarn control here
Maybe the Tusk and Corvi from earlier could work?
Kk
I would also rather have either spdef corvi or smth like spdef RotomW
So corvi or rotom?
They help a bit vs shadow ball while giving you a pivot
Yee either of them could be nice
Doesn't get defog this gen
Oh I understand
Btw a more standard cc Gholdengo is smth like this https://pokepast.es/7f1d5c7760b9f7da
This EVs let you take 2 EQs from Clodsire and outspeed Pelipper
You can also go faster, ik some run enough speed to hit 240
That outspeeds Adamant Breloom
Kk
Ok so
Ceruledge
Corvi
Iron vali
Actually
Holdon
Ceruledge
Rotom W
Great tusk
And Iron vali
@dry edge is that good?
https://pokepast.es/9098f78682db49e9 i don't know if this is a good team its prob not but what do yall think
https://pokepast.es/a6ba79993e8d28a1
Solid team, but maybe something could be changed, thoughts ?
is any comp helpers online]
replace slowking with spdef corv and change tusk to bulk up
and teams good
id prob go
garg + clod +last
itll help w gren
Back
@agile lava
garg
Kk
Im using rocks clod
For clod or garg
garg
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I never got help with this team
https://pokepast.es/fac451400140189c What should I change?
Its a team that would work
Its well made and sruff
https://pokepast.es/e244fcd0fdb6a07f could someone rate this team?
Its a good team
If I had to change anything here what would that be
Honestly outside of skeledirge not having throat spray, i think its a good team
and even then, leftovers also work grest
Skeledirge like never uses throat spray??
https://pokepast.es/8bbb4c2d63384512 This is my current S/V OU team which is showing good success lately. But is there anything I need to change to improve the team?
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https://pokepast.es/b97d3ed6f1443ef8 slapped this together in 10-20 minutes, any advice?
Would try to stick to sample sets for now. None of yours are very good. Hatt and Iron Valiant are the closest but Valiant gets Moonblast so no point on Dazzling Gleam. And if you are going for TR Hatt then might as well go 0 speed IVs too
Setsu
https://pokepast.es/4d679a8f3f89c36c ive taken your advice and this is the team rn
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how can i improve this team?
thinking of putting covert cloak on corv so it can set up on garganacl
https://pokepast.es/da15ade29f801b1e what're some good choices for the last 2 slots here? building for suspect and never done ou before
A rain team I put together -> https://pokepast.es/6c98bb00ff4e6256 If it needs changes let me know pls
https://pokepast.es/56888cd8fc0df9df I made a slight change to the rain team
It feels like I'm missing something
Or I need to get rid of something
amoongus not handling it?
252 Atk Great Tusk Headlong Rush vs. 252 HP / 172+ Def Amoonguss: 195-229 (45.1 - 53%) -- 28.1% chance to 2HKO
252 Atk Great Tusk Headlong Rush vs. 252 HP / 172+ Def Amoonguss: 195-229 (45.1 - 53%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Stealth Rock
make this physdef tusk tbh
so block garg?
kinda want to make garg something like pao or specs valiant for immediate breaker
tho pao also maintains the ability to offensively check dengo
tbf
garg loses to dengo most of the time
and I feel like switching it off makes me weaker into both pult and pao
granted I have spdef hands but still
yeah garg struggles hard with dhengo since cloak is quite common iirc
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Not a fan of Court Change here on Ace given you have tankchomp setting up hazards and a spinner. Replace it with Gunk Shot, and go Tera Fire or Fighting on it. Replace breloom with amoonguss, make valiant psyshock > psychic and shadow ball > focus blast, and make gholdengo focus blast > gleam with either Tera fighting or Tera ghost.
https://pokepast.es/5751e2206aec8f5d - reached 1750 with it on ladder
yea sorry for that
Ty for unmuting me
https://pokepast.es/4d679a8f3f89c36c @agile lava @fallow crag @dry edge can someone help me finish/ rate what I have going on rn
https://pokepast.es/422d0fe8b237bb9e PLS I NEED HELp
Water shuriken is bad
Meh it's still kinda bad
Yea
I would make ghold some diff spread
Not max defense
Cloak
And np over focus blast
U could go gknot over switcheroo on gren but I haven't used it much
Used gren*
Blissey is none existent
Smiling Faces (Gholdengo) @ Covert Cloak
Ability: Good as Gold
Tera Type: Fighting
EVs: 248 HP / 156 SpD / 104 Spe
Calm Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Make It Rain
- Shadow Ball
- Nasty Plot
- Recover
But tera flying
God so many pastes above i forgot to check here today
Ill try to go through a bunch in the morning after class
Apologies
i can’t get it to paste 😭
oh aight
how’d u do that??
yeah my issue is that button doesn’t work
like i’ll hit it and it’ll say it’s an invalid thing
ok ty
bam
ok
but like how did you get that paste link??
ye ik that won’t work
is there a separate way??
Will look more into these teams later today after work.
https://pokepast.es/0c4c14f7a90d211f
Any help here? Built around jugulis and volt turn cores but im hella weak to salt cure
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Covert cloak is there also to try to avoid flinches and df drops from chienpao but i dont think this set cuts it
Physdef tusk>treads and dozo>gastro
That fixes the pao mu
Also make corv full spdef
Jugu shouldn’t be your only pult check
After that it’s good
Mirror is worse
Isnt scarf meow a decent enough pult check?
Pressure lets you force out rockers bc it means you have more pp on fog than they do on rocks
No
Lmao
You die to anything that isn’t ball
I mean jug does too so i was wonderimg
It doesn’t
It’s rocks weak
And has no recovery
No it’s not
It’s niche
Not unusuable
Yeah i meant to say that its not a check to draga
Thx
@light ice do u still need help
Sorta
If you have better advices and have nothing better to do ill gladly take it
Otherwise dont worry
Idbp is the worst set
@daring violet
Dmc nicknames are based
Team is alil slow
Also no actual ghost resist/dark resist hurts
Like p badly
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Moth was for TSpikes
Hm
Which fucks my team hard
Any HO struggles with T Spikes
Glimmora
It doesn't stay alive for more than 2 turns
So unreliable
Grounds have seemed ok to me so far
We don't let any ground come in for free
Plus I have Tera'ed moon more than others
And its not for grounds
Ting-lu is like
It tries to whirlwind Moon
Only to be Taunted
And set up on
Steel Beam on Gholden is a nice lure for Ting Lu too, and maintains momentum
https://pokepast.es/784e4ade11d4c195
First time making a custom team this gen, i stole the concept from black archeops lmao but anyway how is it lol
(How do i ping)
@ruby crest (you seem to be the only online rater and the bot did not ping so lmao)
Is there anything in particular you wanna keep
this team was made before the three bans
and i only now realized that 💀
also
quaq i presume
it's my fav mon to use in comps
lol...
Since this team is from an outdated meta I would honestly say start fresh cause one or two changes won’t be enough tbh
you do have a point, i was still learning how to build on this gen when chiyu and the folks got banned
(i know samples exist but i mean beyond that)
i'll get back at you eventually if it's fine?
Yeah
Unaware breaking
Could slap stored power hat over valiant to break even better but what y'all think
Treads looks really out of place there I don't really think it's good
There's similar teams with Grimm + Worm though either without a spinner or with Tusk, like the sample
This one https://pokepast.es/c25fbd7b62833e6c
Big issue with treads is that it won't be able to negate hazards from ting-lu nor Meowscarada, i.e. the main Pokemon that get hazards against Grimmsnarl
You can defo try smth like Espathra over it
I do wonder why tera ghost on Rona though
Mainly for a dnite that somehow set up and I gotta will it late
But I don't think I'd need it if I terra ghost into Orthworm tbh
Might just go with fairy
What should I replace with treads btw ? I was thinking I needed something that could hard switch into gholdengo at least but maybe something more offensive
Well you have Bulky Fast Rona, that should help with Dengo
If you want smth else that would fit on that team then Roaring Moon could work
Yee Tera Ghost defo helps with Dnite
Rona isnt Max ev
248 + 152 + 36
Less thats intended lol
https://pokepast.es/753093ddddac7f8c wanted to make a OU noivern team, been having some success with this
also noivern has a funny calc vs dnite
@rain gyro I noticed 2 things weren't when I pasted from PC to my phone
Something odd happened there lol
Oh lol
Orthworm wasn't max HP before
not sure if court change is great hazard removal when ur clod is looking to set up rocks at the same time
and noivern is specs and will probably be in and out of the game alot so you're gonna want rocks gone
yeah
that being said im not too sure who to recommend
noivern is kinda just there tbh
i can see it doing ok in ou tbh
i usually just use it for u-turn
tera boomburst probably hurts
it does
other than that its basically identical to pult
+1 252+ Atk Dragonite Extreme Speed vs. 0 HP / 8 Def Noivern: 262-309 (84.2 - 99.3%) -- guaranteed 2HKO this calc has saved me on and off
terra normal dnite as well
without multiscale dnite dies to terra normal boomburst
kinda sucks because you either lose 1 point in special attack or speed
slower than meowscarada sucks
trouble is that noivern has to be completely healthy for this
and if you dont tera then dnite is clicking ice spinner or something
Think is okay, mostly cause Ace and Pao invite in Dondozo, Pex and Great Tusk a lot, all of which Noivern can take advantage of
Is there any reason for twave over wisp on Rotom?
Seems like Wisp might be better since you struggle a bit with Dnite
i just prefer the speed control
most of the offensive ou mons cant survive terra boom burst
Alr then, but would defo consider wisp since Dnite looks like a nightmare
Tera Steel or Dark on Clod would also be alr to cover Espathra (also an issue)
been bless with not seeing that mon
