#Carnivores (Series)
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It's the [stock sound effect]
The first Dino Crisis game came out in 1999
And the first Carnivores game came out in 1998
That sound probably exist before any of those game
i was talking about the Carnivores hd one, not the og carnivores roar
yes

Not really
We have a clip of it
Not the full trailer
Tho
So we could theoretically edit back in
But like would be nicer to just find the og trailer
Cause what makes this one particularly rare
A classic dinosaur hunting simulator Carnivores is back as a new experience! The game is available on PlayStation®Network for PS3.
Carnivores: Dinosaur Hunter HD is a brand new game for PlayStation 3 set in the same universe and featuring recognizable dinosaur types, familiar weapons and equipment. The game provides similar experience to any hu...
Is that hd swapped the Rex roar at the end with the reborn roar after it was shown off
That’s not it
feck
Only way to tell the difference is the raor at the end
Carnivores: Dinosaur Hunter HD - Reveal Trailer
Playlist:
Jurassic Park: http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL97D1D74ED92656ED
TOKYO JUNGLE: http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLbbcaMtzWYCI6Ag5Y3onEji_1VwiCduyy
This is the best we got
huh
Fuck I found it already
No longer lost media
Carnivores: Dinosaur Hunter HD - Reveal Trailer
Playlist:
Jurassic Park: http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL97D1D74ED92656ED
TOKYO JUNGLE: http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLbbcaMtzWYCI6Ag5Y3onEji_1VwiCduyy
@versed stirrup rejoice
that's the exact same video you posted right before this one
Wait fuck
Let me correct it
Wait never mind
I’m genuinely blind
Back to lost media
Btw Timmy pc is almost ready for me to use
What is wrong with you Nick?
You act deaf and blind for almost a full week
"all day"
It’s basically 99% done
What can I say I broke my ankle
I’ve done nothing but stay inside a house
Yo gonna stream bs after shower in the saga
Dang
Also just wanna say my new pc
Actually supports blue tooth
And shit like that
So streaming every day on saga
And talking about desert hopping rhinoceros
i am only here to say i think a remaster in terms of updated assets is unnecessary, however a port where it is more or less stable on modern standards of puters would be much appreciated
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
what about better animations?
I’d be cool with that as it doesn’t take away from the originals all that much
i would also love some more unique kill animations since it's kinda boring seeing the rex fling you over and over
4 more
wym 4 more?
i mean 40
dam
see this is the exact problem and situation that the legacy mod is in. if you're gonna go through the effort of adding and changing aspects of the original (like new animations) yet for some reason not touch up important aspects (like the models) for the sake of "preserving the originals" (despite the fact that enhancements would still be ultimately faithful); then what is the point of changing and adding new things to the original in the first place?
you cannot say you want stuff like new animations yet shoot down the prospect of giving the old assets a new polish because those new animations will absolutely "take away from the originals"
i mean new official minecraft mobs have better animations while they still keep their boxy style
and that is a problem mojang isn't immune to either
its not illegal to keep their boxy designs
no but if your gonna go through the effort of making your new stuff stand out so much from your old stuff and not bother touching upon the old stuff to work with the new stuff then you are in a situation of losing consistency with your visual direction
it's also a problem that the mobile ports also face with their new animals being more detailed and very smoothly animated yet the old stuff remains the same which stands out too much
think of it like if half-life 2 released with all the visuals and models we know from half-life 2 except all the characters that return from half-life 1 are still using their half-life 1 visuals.
the visual consistency gets completely ruined because in that hypothetical they decided that it's not worth bringing the old up to par with their new stuff because they didn't want to take away from the original's direction yet still put in all that effort to give them some new gimmicks and then have the audacity to make everything around that small unaffected handful more detailed and enhanced
there's also the matter of pricing for the games, people aren't gonna be pleased with a $20-$40 price tag if the remaster collection is nothing more than just a means to have the games run on modern systems that touches up on lighting and an arbitrary texture size increase. even fans of classic action forms in the saga were basically unwilling to fork over $20 for chasm the rift for being just what i described
now if there was an option to switch from old assets to polished assets freely then i could see that being the best compromise but that hasn't really been made available from what i can gather from nd's other remasters
Hooray!
Silurian w
My friend spread the word
@echo cliff
thank you my friend, and hello everyone.
Welcome to the group
We only eat what carnivores eat
is this like a company that buys dead games and revives them? idk.
Kinda
Basically they get a license
And then get the game code and what not
And then remaster it and give it to us on modern systems
You may recognize some of there stuff like the Turok remastered trilogy and whatever else they have full channels of
But of course these need to be profitable so we gotta get some votes in these channels
So far we doing really well
and to do this movement the topic needs 100 upvotes?
Not necessarily
Just a high amount of up votes
So rn the highest one is I believe around the 300s
So we are a bit behind but since I got here and kept being persistent about promoting this chat we gone up about 30 votes in a few days
Also everyone in this chat seeing this go spread the word
Okey nice, hopefully we can get through. 🙏
do you know what games this company already got up and running?
also consider giving vivisector and cryostasis an upvote too for action form's other games
#1149442003059343441 #1248813383185072148
Hell yea I voted for vivisector cause it’s genuinely such a good game
And deserves a second chance
Crypstasis is a interesting title too
I never played it personally
But I believe it was on steam and so it simply requires a re-release
i think cryostasis also has a software issue so it could use the help to work on modern systems too
I see
It would be so cool to have all action form games available on steam
We already got chasm
oooooo
also I wanna say if you haven’t already
You should vote for carnivores cityscape a spin off of the original trilogy of games
It’s more of a action shooter then it is a hunting game
What exactly is this
You vote
And you can discuss
If night dive sees enough attention for a game
They try and remaster the game
So they just remaster whatever game gets a bajillion votes?
I went into details here #1330487074893074524 message but short version is there's a bunch of games staff want to do, but that's going to be exhausted, and these votes can highlight opportunities that may have not been considered or highlight a lower priority consideration as being more worthwhile.
Definitely don't expect movement for years though, the immediate docket seems to be full from what i've seen staff say
Cool!
Of couse it has the best theropod, nanotyrannus.
Tbh I would love if the chasmosaurus gets a remastered design based on Burian's artwork of the animal
Because the one in C2 was just a lazy reskin/slightly skinnier trike from C1
Don’t you dare diss on ma boy c2 chasmo
That ST video about chasmo being bad was straight up a propaganda piece
more like charismasaurus
Lmao
It doesn't even look like a chasmo
You could argue allosaurus aswell
But we love em just the same
Also Spinosaurus is so different looking nowadays that it could be argued there
Too
But less so
Well spino is already weird enough
spino can't even decide what it wants to be

Dam we got some votes coming in
Saga made a community post
But not a full announcement better then nothing
This would be sick asf
COME ON COME ON TAKE THE CARNPILL
Carnivores fans mobilising to get the modern pc port/remaster we've waited over a decade for
Oh yeah this is really coming along well.
I'd definitely say to spread it to every corner of the Carnivores internet.
I prayed for times like these
Also we need a cityscape remaster as well
Ong
I would love to see a remaster of that
I just hope it will be compatible on Mac
Can one of the mods pin this for easy access?
Since the titles are related after all.
tbh i want it on consoles aswell with mod support like Path of Titans
I wonder what game engine it will be made it
Preferably something based off MEE.
Same as the turok games I'd imagine? They were released at a similar time and with similar graphics
If that engine would work for the carnivores gameplay anyway
almost all of their remasters use the KEX engine
LET'S GO CARNIVORES
KEX is definitely where it's at for retro titles.
its a pretty good engine ngl
Carnivores 🔛🔝
I have seen a video about kex engine
It looks good
It's amazing technology.
Imagine carnivore’s Triassic on play station and xbox
Truly peak
Yeah backward compatibility with mods is a major concern I have, but generally mods in active development can be ported over to the Steam version no issue.
sorry to ask, but roughly what would the remaster of carnivores look like? new graphics and new 3D models or how and will it be for PC? or phone
Judging by their previous games
Probably retro
Really depends I think, the only remasters I've seen ND do that doesn't really have new models are Turok1/2
Retro but with high resolution and usually better lighting
Imagine smth like a remastered map like mount ravan
Literally would be amazing
Their Turok remasters are probably the best idea of what carnivores would look like graphically
Slightly better given how much better Carnivores textures were
Imagine the remaster coming with additional lore :3
CARNIVORES
It's a remaster so there won't be too much new stuff
THE REMASTERRRRRRRR
Maybe re adding stuff like the pochers and multiplayer
i would see it the way the Quake remasters are handled, an artistic touchup faithful to the original style, but with modern touchups like water reflections, increased drawdistance, more vegitation, and all that stuff
It would be great if they improved the water graphics, something more crystalline (if possible) and effects with bubbles or water drops on the screen (like in the trailer for the version that was never released for phone) would be AMAZING
Imagine just walking around trying to hunt
Then some random buff dude just comes and shoots at you
Lol
Pretty much a clone because poachers use the hunter model but have grey clothes iirc
Multiplayer would go hard asf
It would be nice to have a health bar i think, in case someone mods a small huntable carnivore, would be weird for it to one-shot us
How would multiplayer work tho? Like hunting competitions?
Or coop hunting
As exciting as new content like Poachers, multiplayer etc are, I'd say the most new stuff we'd get are maybe leaderboards and more polished trophy storing systems, quality of life stuff that wouldn't be too tough to add
Like going hunting with a buddy
what is the threshold for this to be actually considered?
I always imagined that, but not exactly what the game modes would be like. like who hunts the most dinosaurs in a given time or who survives the longest...
Generally the graphics would have to remain faithful to the originals but upgraded texture/model work is definitely in the cards. Some models might get some touching up, but since we're all attached to the 90's style dinosaurs I wouldn't expect things to bank most on the graphical front and personally I'm mostly interested in a few features this can bring forward:
Suggested Feature List:
Must-have (Many of these items are universally implemented through mods, or wanted by the Carnivores community at large, may be instrumental to the remaster's commercial success):
Steam/platform cloud saves for our progress because some places take a lot of score to unlock and I'm sure no one wants to grind for all of that all over again.
Mod support with a centralised structure for downloading mods and addons. (Possibly Steam Workshop or a mod download interface like DOOM 1+2.)
Full compatibility upgrades for modern systems and resolutions. (Including console releases.)
Expanded AI slots (much like Carnivores Modder's Edition. The current community rework of Carnivores 2's Engine.)
Addition of cut/removed content. (Yes this may include poachers or co-op hunts.)
Classic graphics/effects switch such as Carnivores 3DFX-styled water.
Increase 1024 tri limit for both .car and map props.
Debug mode enabled.
Enable 'mortal zones' across all games.
Essential if feasible:
All Modder's Edition Features to ease modding: https://www.moddb.com/mods/carnivores-modders-edition
Carnivores Cityscape:
https://discord.com/channels/190583485826727936/1202725292435841084
so cool!
Extended feature request list:
Nice to have:
Centralisation of game content (Basically C1, 2, and Ice Age in one Carnivores Remastered Collection where you just boot one game and get all maps, weapons, and animals on one interface much like QUAKE did with its expansions.)
Achievements.
Minor model and graphics rework to have more detail. (Think QUAKE and QUAKE II styled.)
More advanced AI.
Multiplayer suggestions:
Hunter customisation (colours/models.)
These are things that I'd classify as 'doable' because previous games have gotten this treatment in some way or another.
Honestly if we get all of that that'd be the dream, and would already elevate it over the HD/Reborn/Dinosaur Hunt games
The HD remake had potential tbh
But tatem kinda screwed it up
It just needed a bit more time in the oven
The Ui could have alot of fun with that. Combine all the games into one with a "choose your hunting tour" hub menu to go into the individual games
Oh that is a must now.
"Choose your sector"
At least the menu theme goes hard
That'd lend itself so well to mods too
(going off topic a bit) I'm happy with Carnivores having new stuff, whatever it is. but a version like "Reborn" from Ice Age would be great too 😼🔥
The whole theme of the menu swapping when you choose a sector would be amazing aswell
Literally me thinking about the possibilities rn
This is like when you go onto a mountain when hunting rex's
add fornite dances for the hunter


Like the whole theme becoming icy and cold when selecting the ice age sector(i forgot what it was called)
I really hope the Nightdive devs get into contact with Ornithomimid1 and we see some M.E.E features brought over for the modding side
Oh yeah, modder collab is pretty critical when it would come to remstering this.
will the menu song be remastered too? 'cause I could help with that (or idk if they already have a team dedicated to that)
I'd assume alot of the modding community will be involved in some way
Since modders have managed to do straight up unholy shit with the games as it is.
Oh for sure
Imagine a dev studio working with them to de-extinct FMM UV-32.
It's practically their franchise at this point lol
Honestly yeah.
I wonder if they will add any new weapons
I hope nightdive remasters this series and doesn’t break the decades of mods made for the game by its loving community. If this happens it will be a wonderful day for me.
It felt so weird when the modders added pack-hunting like HOW DID YOU CODE THAT
Secret
Im pretty sure we got our hands on the source code?
No one shall know
Seeing this get upvoted so quickly... it gives me hope.
Wait until Saurian gets a whiff of this.
What is this vote even for?
Carnivores modding wont just reach a golden age with this. It will reach a platinum age.
creating a remaster of carnivores XXliberat0r
Cocanium mode activated
Oh OK yeah that'd be pretty nice to have a new carnivores game. Would be even cooler if they could implement StudioMod's sounds for creatures
I saw a video some time ago of a mod of dogs that helped you hunt and track could that be implemented in the future perhaps (?l
Yeah
Ornithamimid1 made that vid
Absolute legend
There's a bunch of suggested features I've got over here, feel free to make additional suggestions. Just reply to this message WITH a ping so I'll see it.
I really liked that mod tbh
seeing a remaster/remake of carnivores would be awesome. i’m working on a roblox carnivores fan game with a friend. Big fan of this series, definitely underrated
The seismosaurus would fit right in this remaster
I would really like to see this series revived again and for more people to know about it
I would love, due to multiplayer, for players to have some customization options for their hunter, so we can tell who is who, like different uniform colours or hats
could you pin the message? so we can find it faster please 🙏
I can't pin it, I lack the perms to do so.
carnivores very good game
@worn kindle could you pin this message I replied to if you've a moment? It's a feature list for suggested features. I can't put it into the 'main' post anymore due to character limits.
a remaster would be cool but i'd like to see modding support present in a potential remaster
while the original games can be enjoyed by itself, the community and the mods behind them have given the games new light and became more than just simple hunting games
Oh yeah definitely, it's in my feature list as a must have.
Yeah. We need the devs to look into working with Ornithomimid1 and getting M.E.E entirely ported over with the vanilla games.
Hang on, I'm gonna make a better feature list
Been following Carnivores for a long time, would be great to see the New MEE features in a new remastered game.
They should also add more advanced ai like
Dinosaurs like allosaurus or the velociraptors stalking the player
Or dinos going for drinks in the ponds or lakes, dinos fighting each other and hunting etc
i'd like to point out two good examples
UFO 94 is a mod that used the engine to turn it into an action game, fighting flying saucers in the modern world, showing what potential the game can be used even for non-hunting purposes
Legacy has been able to refurbish and give a newer look to the older games while still being respectful to its original forms and art while implementing latest engine updates
without modding support, none of these or many of the previous mods wouldn't have been possible and minimizing the impact the games have on the larger gaming community (albeit carnivores is in a bit of a niche genre but its still popular to a degree)
Dinosaur behaviours like drinking and sleeping would be very cool, and possibly reasonable additions? Fighting and hunting might be a bit ambitious tho
It had the opportunity to be more popular but HD flopped
Feature list is updated.
Now that you say it
Yeah lol, i got a little too ahead of myself
It has three sections here, listed by how doable/instrumental they are.
We had 54 votes when this day started. We're at almost 100 more.
Nevermind, we passed it lol.
Just wait until Saurian catches wind of this
we have been mobilized
If Saurian features this on his vids the server will explode I think.
So, just to clarify, what's the bar for this actually happening? How many votes do we need for this to actually take off and Nightdive to actually make it happen
Holy fucking shit
Is it just whichever game gets the most votes after a certain time? A handful of games with significant interest/votes get chosen?
There isn't one because the IP holders have to be willing to play ball with them.
Games like Po'ed haven't had nearly the votes that this currently has and it's happened because its IP holders were willing to work with Nightdive.
So safe to say that Nightdive will take what it can get.
Basically high votes do matter but also the original ip holder aka tatem would have
To cooperate
Pretty much that.
I feel like the rights to Carnivores should be easy to secure though
But we are doing fucking awesome
NOLF is so popular that Nightdive basically got cease & desisted by Warner Brothers for trying to get its rights secured.
This happened in 2018 and they operate on a never say never basis, so we might still get NOLF, and even if Carnivores doesn't pan out right now, the votes do not lie.
and this is without youtuber intervention too
is here? @sleek plume
this is the amount we have gotten in like, how much time?
The post has been up for a while, but I've been going around and recruiting people to vote on this, so did some of my friends.
One announcement blew this shit up
yup
Its awesome to see we are nearly at 200
Straight up competing with some of the titles
All I can say is spread the word as far as you can.
As I've been doing
I've contacted ST about this whole thing
Has yet to respond but he's a busy man
Yeah Carnivores YouTube will definitely pull some people.
UPVOTE THIS GAME
Reddit too prolly.
I don't have a Reddit account so someone else should prob do that
Me neither so I'll have to recruit someone to do so.
Also people should vote for
https://discord.com/channels/190583485826727936/1202725292435841084
It can be argued out of all the games cityscape deserves the remaster treatment the most
Yeah definitely.
Even on release it released pretty shittily.
Because IIRC it really didn't run well, even then.
i think Tatem is willing to play ball tbh, i mean Dinosaur Hunt exists
Yea but hey we can probably get cityscape alongside the trilogy if night dives gets the source for it by tatem
They haven't worked on it for like almost a decade.
its ass compared to the original game
Tatem I feel are willing to give the franchise to other studios but development on there own
A proper remake of this game with workshop support would actually be a childhood dream come true
Not gonna happen
but it wasnt made directly by the people who did DH:HD iirc
It was made by Vogster Entertainment and then ported to pc by Digital Dreams entertainment
Both are pretty obscure ass companies that didn't give carnivores the attention or budget to be what it is
Night dive is already well established
Especially in the dinosaur communitys
And if a remaster of carnivores does happen
with all this attention towards Carnivores, I wonder if we could get this for Armored Core..
It can be really good overall for this franchise
yeah
Make a suggestion or see if its on these forums
Votes have doubled in only like a few hours, you love to see it
Same here
It's not on the entries yet.
i already searched and didnt see it, so i just might try it ;p
I'll make a post with the series.
So, we need to pray tatem is willing to share 
Yea pretty much
they've never been particularly combative tbh, they never went after the modding scene or anything so, i doubt they would be unwilling
So ist like carnivores dinosaurs hunt but “remastered”??
Like are we gonna be able to mod it but with cool animations?
Like modern animation
There ya go.
Here is the message about how this system works
As an avid carnivores modder I'd love to see carnivores remastered
thank you very much
Finally you show up will
What will happen or what does “rematering” will do?
I would sacrifice at least one animal to get a carnivores remaster please
I mean what series are u gonna remaster?
Basically update the game
Not like a remake
Ik but wich one
Where they make everything new
the game does not play nice on modern hardware or software, similiar to how Chasm was ported by Nightdive
Like there is alot version of it
I think the game should get remastered, but we should still have the option to play with the original graphics
Night dive is good at keeping those up
graphics wise I am fine with the game looking the same, it just needs to run on modern computers a lot better and have an official modding workshop
imo
I think some slight graphical improvments wouldn't hurt
Nightdive tends not to screw around with the look and feel of games so I'm not worried there.
Ist gonna have the “Carnivores dinosaurs hunt”’s graphic?
Better view range and maybe proper lighting
Exactly, mostly just quality of life and graphical touch ups
Preferably not that ugly water though.
Also mee implementation is a must
I'd prefer the 3DFX/Glide water.
Without it it's worthless
Yay I support u then
Please make it happen
I want the new carnivores
I’ve been playing it since i can remember
Also modding being more user friendly and accessible means more new modders, more mods, and a general increase in mod quality
Okay this is probably not actually good to put in the game but hear me out
Wouldnt it be funny to have an allosaurus jump at you but you PARRY the bozo with your rifle? 
It has a very special place in my heart
Oh yeah Will this is the feature list that we have compiled already.
We should also let Oli continue to develop the mee and thus have their features implemented into this port/remaster
Is this what the remaster is gonna look like?
no
Bruh
Oh
More like just a polished shiny version of the original games
It's separated in must have and nice to have so the ND devs should have an idea on what's critical to the Carnivores community.
Think more mobile port graphics/original
Ooohhh
I think it's important to have EVERY mee feature, existing and planned
Were nearly hitting the 200 mark which is really good
Yp
What if the animations are as smooth as in the mobile game?
Its one of the few things i love of it 
I'm so happy the staff finally caved in and just @ everyone the dam thing
We would not have gotten this far
So this is what it actually gonna look like
Oh I'd imagine improved fps and performance will make it all look much smoother
if they arent and its moddable give me a week and ill reanimate everything /j
More or less
I guess maybe not as instense
i shared the anouncment with a server with people who played carnivores
But we really don't know
That's in there already. MEE content is a suggested feature.
As they don't exist
I prefer having less than never
Pah-LEASE increase the draw distance at least
I wouldn't hold out hopes for every single feature but a good chunk of them yea
I'd imagine the same amount of features as previous versions of the MEE at least
Honestly mod support is already in the must have so all MEE stuff would be possible in theory at least.
Maybe updates that add more mee features
Dude i just want to gave a regular whater texture
honestly give me moddable C1 and im fully content
Or shader at least
I think it's important to stay true to the original style while improving on it if the animals themselves were to get updated (although the image shown isn't the best example)
Nightdive isn't in the habit of massively altering visuals so we're set there.
I gotta say tho.
I think just keeping the models the same with improved textures and slightly touched up models here and there is perfectly fine
If people wanna have different designs workshop support and install
Just look up footage of nightdives turok remasters compared to the originals, that's probably a good idea of the kind of changes we'll get
And having some shaders
Dude the texture in the og is so plane
I also think it's important to preserve the modder friendly approach the originals had
i think having the ability to double texture sizes and such would help
We need a remaster
Silly question
Will there be fall damage? XD
I remember safely jumping off mountains on the original game
Probably not.
The image I posted above uses the same texture resolution as the originals
Ooo interesting
feel that? thats true,,,,
512x512 textures save me
I mean the shadow and the lively feeling
Of the mobile
Night mode should be improved, but night vision should still be available
WE ARE HITTING 200 ONG
will the Kex engine free us from the 1024 vert limit..
I think the default should be like the mobile port
God the Carnivores’s community is so opp
Possibly.
But have a option in settings to revert to the original green
Or the new night shader that was recently implemented into the originals via reshade
Because it is iconic in a way
It should be available for legacy graphics
I also think night vision should be an actual feature, like a perk you can select ala radar or double ammo
Eh
Of course it should be changed so that isn't an eye sore
I think the game should have atleast same futures such as the dinosaurs hunt one
i think it should just be part of the binocs
I'm just happy if these games get any release in the slightest with minimal change
no
The remakes are underdeveloped
To atleast focus on the game a bit more
Oh
We just need full mee implementation
Yp
The remakes are eh to say the least.
honestly mee should just be left on its own
4 days is crazy ngl
Yes but we need the mee features in the remaster
do we though?
If my legacy to the paleomedia and Carnivores communities is getting this remastered by making this post, I'm pretty happy with that.
YES
we really dont
Base c2 is bland I'm going to be honest
The carnivores community is so good
The old stuff wouldn't go anywhere dw
C2 is disappointing
Without the mee features the remaster is pretty much worthless
What's the point in remastering the game if it's not going to have all the features that make it worth playing?
Fair
i feel thats a very subjective thing
I disagree. MEE could definitely be ported to remastered Carnivores as an addon for the modding tools.
Mee stuff would be chill with if we just let night dive take there time to develop the base game and then add more features from mee
C2s whole thing is being a good foundation for modding. On its own its just kind ok
I mean why wouldn't you want the same game but with more content and mechanics
I get liking simplicity but the MEE is still fairly easy to grasp as a player
Any idea when will they remastering it?
not at all
Cant wait tbh
That's not how that'd work
Seeing how this franchise struggles hard with more features and content
You can't just put the mee features into a remaster
Well it's more about what will be agreed on between Nightdive and the IP holders. I'm not entirely sure what the parameters they'll be given are to get this done.
As well as what they'll be able to pull off within economic bounds.
Maybe for the purists, have a classic mode with the old graphics and mechanics as they were at release?
idk about you all i like base C2 personally, even if it is a bit plain its still mechanically satisfying and solid, not a bad time at all and for sure worth remastering
If that's possible I mean
^^
The remaster shouldn't be a thing if it doesn't have all of the mee features
Modding support on its own was part of Tatem's idea, so if they get the rights from Tatem that's a given.
That alone can open a pipeline to MEE Remastered.
The mobile port already exists
i think the baseline is availability on modern systems with full compatibility, work from there
you arent wrong for wanting the MEE features though
why does it need everything MEE has?
^ That, pretty much.
But I'd be pretty pissed if we didn't get native built in modding support tho.
Wow my reply didn't work.
i can understand some things but the remaster does not need everything mee has
Because most modders rely on mee and it's just much better
then the modders can use MEE
Then what's the point of the remaster?
Out of curiosity what about the MEE would you be against them adding?
If they loved the idea of moding then why Cdh cant be moded?
Like the game is so dead
It can, there are mods for it
Most of the Carnivores modding community is on PC.
If people are just going to use the mee then there's no point in making a remaster
CDH isn't.
im looking at the remaster from a "i want to play base carnivores 2" perspective
Very basic ones, but that's how the classics started
Carnivorous dinosaurs hunt?
The steam versions?
not a "i want to mod and play modders edition engine" perspective
It has mods??
I'm looking at the remaster from a "i want a good game" perspective
In that case then a classic mode could work. But tbf the classics exist, and aren't too hard to get working. An official remaster release should probably push the franchise forward
Exactly
CARNIVORES 3 (real)
@nimble siren dude are u sure that THE carnivores dinosaurs hunt have mods?
i cannot play anything besides MEE fym arent too hard to get working,,,,,
Yup, afaik it's just skins atm tho
I heard that its unmodeple
Oh
Classics are a nightmare on modern systems. Even with the patches it's a whack a mole from time to time.
^^
The originals still need to be preserved
We need a remaster because if we don’t carnivores will die with windows 10
Kinda disappointed that u cant add a new dinos or weapons to it
Just change the skin
Yup, but that's how moddinh the classic games began too
and its starting to not even work on that for some people
Would be sweet if we got ahold of native modding
Imagine the maps you could make with modern software
The creatures
The POWER
Sonce when they started moding it?
Last year i think
Quite recently in 2024 yah.
Well that’s interesting
Check the carnivores saga discord, they have a channel for dinosaur hunt modding
I will
U actually gave me some hope
But for the remaster, I think a cure all is just having the base games untouched as an option you can choose. That might be alot more work but it'd be a bit step in preserving those games and keeping them playable in their original forms
Which is pretty important in its own right
Could do it like QUAKE where you get to pick between the base Carnivores and the 'extended' remastered MEE content.
QUAKE has it in the launch option menu.
Exactly
What is the name of the channel ?
Man I just want carnivores with mobile port graphics, modern technical power, and modding capabilities
There's a channel section for the reboot games, the dinosaur hunt general chat is where mods are mostly discussed
That's pretty much what we'd get
One thing I'm concerned about is future mee development
Since those features might not be added into a potential remaster
Ok here me out though
I'm sure that once the remasters are out, an MEE will be released for that.
What if it looked like this
What if
Way too much of a deviation
No but, mee isn't done yet, if they start development on a remaster soon then a good amount of the mee features won't be in the remaster
Again, MEE will probably expand past the remaster's scope.
Well that's my primary issue
But if MEE is ported over to the remaster, this issue is nonexistent.
Especially if native modding support is present.
We'd need support for new mee features
Which would require constant work from the remaster devs
If you have a workshop entry for MEE as an expansion of the modding kit they can keep developing it on the remasters.
Which they likely will.
That's not how mee works
I mean if you just have solid modding capabilities
mee changes the source code
Mmm
Most mods don't have source code changes, mee does (as it's the engine itself)
It would depend how extensive modding support is
For a Carnivores remaster, I'd hope it'd be as extensive as possible
Especially if its emphasised in a proposal to Nightdive
180!
Yesss.
180?
180 votes!
All I'm asking for is the full suite of mee features, existing and to be added
Carnivores 🔛🔝!!!!
That would be alot of work and departures from the originals for a remaster, especially since those features include new species
I know this is kind of out there, but maybe nightdive could help the mee itself be completed
Not impossible, but it'd be alot
It should have the originals be available as well
dude i know your not a programmer but cmon
"all im asking for"
Definitely a long shot, but Sabre cooperated with TRLE moddeds for the Tomb Raider remasters if I recall.
So not entirely unthinkable.
Maybe just like some bare bones stuff like the groundwork for bonus huntables or aquatic creatures
My point is that we need full mee implementation.
To me even if it's a box standard remaster of the base games, no major MEE additions, that's still a big deal and a really good platform for modding to kick off from
i will be at peace if this remaster happens
This is more of a preservation thing if you ask me
It is.
MEE will also die pretty soon
i doubt it
???????
Along with the original game. I’d appreciate modding support but like just having the game updated and preserved is enough in my book
The software is ancient
No shot it’s gonna last for the next like five years
Carnivores is ancient
MEE already runs pretty well on win 11 from my experience, though i understand not every can run it
Older games than carnivores have modding support rn so I wouldn't write it off so soon
Especially with such a dedicated community behind it
But something as in depth as mee isn’t gonna be doable any time soon unless it has some foundation in the base game
You can’t just crack open a modern games source code
In theory, could they implement the changes of the MEE into the code of the remaster, without necessarily including their features?
So they'd be easy to add via mods but the base game is mostly just the classic experience
That way the MEE devs could write up a list of everything they plan to add to the engine, then nightdive could make those things all doable within the code, while keeping the games in their classic state if you wanna play vanilla
That way everyone wins
I mean they could but like at that point wouldn’t they just include mee?
some stuff yeah, like pack hunting or the new AI's sicne thats already a thing in the MEE we can do. Though some stuff flike the new bullet mechanics would a lot harder
I really hope aquatic animals to some degree get in
That's a base MEE feature so if the remaster works closely with the modding community I'd expect it to be possible
But like I said, even just the most basic of remasters here would be huge for the community and the franchise as a whole
Imagine if we tell them about MEE and they just shut down the remaster instantly
Bundleeee! I require aid!
The day after I make the call to update the vote totals to monthly instead of weekly because changes weren't happen often, a huge change happens
Lol
You're wanting the pin on the other game right
Could you pin this to the channel?
Yes.
UFO 94 mode what is that
Apparently it's an overhaul mod using MEE.
Also another thing that I think should be added is make sure debug mode is still available whether they need to be unlocked in a certain way keep the game cheats
Also we are at 190
We are eating good
Will brought it up, I don't know much about it.
I've honestly never heard of it
Same.
Basically cheat mode
Oh no I meant UFO 94.
You can fly slow the game down
I know debug mode lol.
Oh lol
Question, did you organize this? (This is leading to a joke)
Yes.
Idk why that's on there
Since MAGITS peeps did the same, I figured two can play.
We had 54 this morning.
I went through the entries a while back and another fan group did this for Machines: Wired for War a long time ago. That game is at 79 votes and hasn't moved at all since I've been tracking
Carnivores
Carnivores!
Yeah I dooked this into the 'official' modding Discord and they finally made an announcement with a ping which blew up both servers for a while.
just woke up to see the carnivores wave aftermath. i'd also like the folks here enjoy action form's other titles to also consider giving vivisector #1149442003059343441 and cryostasis #1248813383185072148 some love too if they haven't already
(and also cityscape if it isn't being counted here as part of the series #1202725292435841084 though its sunstorm and not action forms)
there are a surprising amount of people that like a 90's dinosaur hunting game from Ukraine with above average reviews
This is getting a lot of support! I’d love to see a committed official dev team for this franchise
You've already linked the other carnivores game in your post that's pinned. While those other games are fantastic choices and worthy of consideration the things I'd want to pin are things like your post (detailed feedback and suggestions that could be useful for gauging what scope such a project could entail if staff starts considering reaching out to rights holders and planning pitches)
Oh yeah, totally get that.
in regards to the already pinned message, perhaps you should make a note on that 1024 tris limit being for both .car (animals/player/weapons) and map props/foliage/objects since at this moment in the modding side we can technically only do it for the former with the current mee build (and technically even our 3rd party modding tools to compile .car files can only go up to 2048 at the moment)
Yea I just checked I have no clue why UFO 94 is in that list literally got nothing to do with carnivores
also mentioning the modding tools yea we definitely need those working since microsoft has been very much deprecating those (most notably the map editor which has a very bizarrely low memory limit which causes maps to either corrupt or not be opened in the program anymore)
Its just another mod
I'd suggest removing that as a mode
or at least just the mention of ufo94
What does this mod do that requires its mention for a remaster
holy we got 200s
I forgot to ask, are these remasters going to be faithful to the orginal games? minus the junky stuff.
Probably
As close as possible
But idk how mee will change some features such as pack hunting in velciraptor
Or if that's for modders only
We can only wait and see
i see it as the same as the mortal zones situation. where the flags exist and are functional but aren't actually used (in c2 and ia)
Maybe have two settings
Yeah the mortal zones were about to be added.
I like the idea of being able to choose whether you play with mortal zones or don't for c1-cia
IIRC their absence was an oversight in Ice Age.
Yeah
And in c2
But the option to have both c2 and cia and c1 as well to not only have mortal zones but play without them would be a good idea
Please everyone who prefer one over the other
7 MOOORE
I could see mortal zones being a relatively easy toggle in the menus
Same for old vs new graphics and stuff
6
Also, officially out of characters for the suggestions, it will continue here.
Suggestion maybe creating a google doc
And linking it
So it can still be pinned
And not be lost
Also easier to share around
While I get where this comes from, there are safety concerns around docs.
I use them for character writing etc, but generally companies tend to shy away from text formats in files.
Fair
speaking of graphics.
it would be nice for the newer graphic enhancements to match what the mobile ports were able to pull off such as more grass, better ambient fog, better skies, no nigh vision filter when playing at night. (which by extension be available to tweak in a map editor)
If anything I wouldn't mind seeing it at least on par with vivisector
Which uses a updated version of the same engine
true, though at that rate porting carnivores into vivisects updated engine we mind as well vote for vivisect. it was originally gonna be a duke nukem hunting game anyways so it wouldn't be far fetched that any chance of vivisect getting remastered with the full accessibility of modding could in turn make a new hunting experience from it
I'm still not sure who owns vivisector
I'm pretty sure that's simply because they are the original developers
pretty much
Even tatem lists action forms
Despite them owning the ip
If memory serves right
Its either owned by tatem
Wouldn’t Atari own vivisector
Or the same folks who won duke nukem
HOLY FUCK ITS HIM
i don't see them being listed
i thought the old action forms games were just abandonware atp
probably a similar situation to chasm
they are but only because they aren't be sold in any retail manner
When a company shuts down
chasm is being sold again so technically its not abandonware anymore
So action forms stuff are probably all over the place
be mindful of pronouns please, the person you've responded to marked she/her
i thought golden frog studios was a male
understandable
YOOOOO!

@thorny reef I've expanded the features list to the message above to have more room.
I ran out of characters for the initial message.
Could you pin that one as well please?
Thankssss!
i've been there with a few posts
195 puts Carnivores one vote above Hexen 1 + 2 for fifth place
Nice.
yay
199!
1 mOOORE
Who’s it gonna be
Imagine if it's SaurianTarget.
Lol
I hope he does tho
This is so his thing
Allosaurus had never seen such radiance before.
I'm sure we'll see it pop up into one of his vids soonish.
I Made a community post on YouTube for this
Hell yea GFS
Thanks!
Are these all the highest rankings
Very very awesome
We thank you pickle
YEEEEESSSS
You have done us well
well hot damn we're up with some greats there
Yeah we made the jump in the prio list pretty quickly.
Who owns Carnivores anyways?
Tatem games
Tatem currently to my knowledge
those numbers are slightly off, both wolfs and unreal have a couple more votes since my last tally
And the original games?
Tatem
Action Forms where the original creators
But Tatem owns all Carnivores games currently
But isnt dinosaur hunt made by a different studio?
Why the never relased the old games since they own it
Or not
Hello
which effectively hold the rights to carnivores
We reached 200 now what
Wait for it
Wild
Sweet
But when Vivisector re-relase?
give it a vote #1149442003059343441
It should be re relase along side with Carnivores remake
Slight correcttion
vogster entertainment made hd
The rest was dde
aaah
We need more votes!
Don't forget Vivisector too
I’m wondering if the guys that made the new Chasm port have rights to the other AF properties or just Chasm
This is pretty exciting if it would happen
I'm assuming they only had access to chasm stuff
Remember AF went down
And so along that
Mean that AF stuff is owned by multiple different companies instead of just one
Tatem is the closest thing to modern action forms
As the ceo for tatem and AF are the same folks
A relevant post for setting expectations on both whether this project can be done and what time frame it would take if it gets started
Honestly in a way the time table being pretty long only makes the end product better since the modders are digging up and experimenting with a lot of different features.
So when the time would actually come for Nightdive to get this done, there might be a lot of things the modding community can help out with.
This got to 200 votes real fast
The power of the carnivores community
And a rallying cry
I’m here, how do I help?
Vote
More vote, more atention
Imagine if we had mod support
Like
We choudl just donwload dinos from the workshop
And add conversion mods like for half life 1 and 2
Nice idea,but there an small problem
What is the problem?
Have you seen the caos of Gmod and HL2 workshop?
Forgot that
just wait until you see the carnivores moddb
Yeah
which really is just a norm of modding
not a good norm mind you but it's not really a shocker
They have some slight changes and its just the base game
I hope that will don't have very weird mods on Carnivores workshop
Like they have some dinosaur recolors and thats it
Or the sus mods, as Crystal on HL2 workshop
would certainly be a first for carnivores to have that kind of mod
Pepole ruin everything
Are we getting any new content
Yes
eeey mr. modder's edition @fossil matrix is here
keep up the investment
Hell yea ollie
The legend himself
Nah this game deserves love.
Probably not popular nowadays but as the videogame of the Thing, some people remembers it with nostalgia, one of key important elements that sure will make this a great desicion to bring.
Specially Carnivores 2, despite not being the best game of the franchise is surely the most modded one, because being honest, playing Carnivores 2 is most because of the modding scene, the community sure it did a lot for the game and if a remaster comes out... I personally hope this re-released could be focused on the modding scene and modern hardware tools
it's inevitable, but in the end it's the good mods that stand out
I'm just hoping that we get some love towards this game, see what they do
LONG LIVE THE CARNIVORES
Carnivores fans seeing that the trilogy of games is possibly gonna be remastered
second place
now you gotta climb the cliff of Metal Arms: Glitch in the System
Robots vs. Dinosaurs wasn't on my bingo card for 2025, but here we are
Imagine Nightdive goes batshit insane and develops a game about Robots Vs Dinosaurs
Not just that but alien dinosaurs
Instead or remastering some of those games
Idk if NightDive has ever made their own games
And no I'm not counting the system shock remake
And they were certainly basic
I checked the wiki page recently
Although needs update because The Thing game isn't on the list
It's not that of a mess. Sexual mods are hidded and awful mods will be find if you really put your will on it.
Pretty close to 250 now
If we loose
Are we getting remastered later
Or
We are never been considered again
Nightdive basically has a list
Tho I'm pretty sure they have multiple teams to remaster
We gotta get a remaster
Maybe
#1149864293379088446 message a bit of a chain of messages, but good info for what to expect moving forward
All three games remastered/bundled on steam with mod/workshop support sounds like a dream come true.
Definitely
Carnivores: RayTracing Edition 😂
Lol
If we're getting a carnivores remake I do believe we should recommend the best of the communities mod developers to join nightdive studios to work on the redesigns for the dinosaurs and provide vital input on what they need to do to make this remake work
@cunning kayak
Remaster* but yeh
Yooooo! I would LOVE for a Carnivores Series remake. Those were by far the very first and favorite video games I've ever played on Windows Vista back in my day. I'd kill for those remakes! 🤩
Yeah, that... mb lol
mmm i wouldn't mind being the one to give some input on how to best approach what is needed on the surface. as long as oli is also part of the discussion since he knows the deepest ticks of the engine
Robots vs Dinosaurs for 2025. here we go. the question now, can Carnivores (Series) beat Metal Arms: Glitch in the System
This remaster should also have mod support
first to 400 gets braging rights
Like I'd would definitely love to see it up to date with the graphics and all, man... that'd be lit. And Carnivores Cityscape... Ohohoho, that'd be a dream come true! XD
I can already imagine the mods that'd be possible with such a remaster
Ikr?
Imagine what the Gojirasaurus would look like in HD 😂
I'll be happy to finally get those Direct3d graphics working lol my windows 98 back in the day couldn't do it. Software sucked.
Or even better, the T-Rex looking very identical to the box cover of the original Carnivores
This chat is fucking insane
Why's that?
CARNIVORES SHALL LIVE AGAIN BROTHERS! TO GLORY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
The style of the models will remain similar to the originals afaik, just with improvements in overall quality, but nothing crazy
Ah, I see
add crusher to remastered carnivores....
Well as long as Carnivores series gets a remaster, I'm all ears for it. Mainly I can't wait for a Carnivores Cityscape remaster XD
add the fort ciskin cutscene creepypasta
How about the Dephalous Hills Ghoul lol
im gonna disintegrate your house lil vro vro
oh boy here comes the silly
Imagine the Action Forms pack?
a well done cityscape remaster would be good
Carnivores Dinosaur Hunt remaster coming soon 🤣
all the dinosaurs share too many animations
Imagine what it would look like playing as the Dinosaurs
The Giga eating animation is something I'm not too of a big fan of tbh
