avatar-help

[mental zephyr]

They're correctly parented. Foot bones are named Foot.L & Foot.R

[lilac musk]

Should just be able to manually map it, right? I've always wondered what goes on under the hood of that detection system. Cause sometimes it just does weird things like this.

[mental zephyr]

Yeah I've manually mapped it but it seems to be a problem when applying gogoloco so I wanna fix the rig for automatic detection

[nova thicket]

how am i supposed to rig my avatar? ive never done this before

[mental zephyr]

Fixed; I've added some weight painting to the hoof and now it works :p
I was under the impression that I didn't need to weight paint the mesh andd that as long as the bone exists, it would work

[mental zephyr]

youtube guides are the best

[nova thicket]

ok

any way to make this rig work

[mental zephyr]

what are you rigging?

[nova thicket]

a tadc character inspired by kinger

hes kind of a worm as you can see

or do i just need to redo the rig

[lilac musk]

If it's not humanoid, then you can kind of do whatever rig you want. Though it also means you'll need to make the animations for everything you want.

Having humanoid means you don't have to deal with making and setting up animations, but you have to stick to, well, human like rigging. Unity wants the Hips to be the start bone, then have spine, left leg, and right leg as children and follow down to the top of your head, tips of fingers and toes.

[nova thicket]

i want a custom walk animation, but it would be nice to have the traditional hand tracking

is that possible?

and whats the naming convention

sorry, ive never done this before at all

i only know blender 😭

[lilac musk]

This is Unity's documentation on humanoid rigging
https://docs.unity3d.com/2019.1/Documentation/Manual/UsingHumanoidChars.html#Rigging
I'd not worry to much about the names, as you can remap them in Unity if it doesn't understand during it's auto setup

good thing though is to do .L .R or _L _R for left and right

[nova thicket]

i mean i only have 3 bones for the body, so i cant do spine, chest, neck, and head

im confused

[lilac musk]

Right, that wouldn't work as a humanoid. You'd have to do all your own animations, or make a new rig that would be compatible with the humanoid system.

[nova thicket]

so how do i go the path of making my own animations

[lilac musk]

I'd suggest making the animations themselves in Blender, then when you get into Unity, you'll need to setup your own Animation Controller.

[nova thicket]

ok. how do i set up an animation controller

[lilac musk]

It's a state machine. VRChat will provide you with parameters like VelocityX, VelocityY, Grounded, Gesture(Left and Right), ect.. These will allow you to transition and blend the animations together.

https://creators.vrchat.com/avatars/animator-parameters/

[karmic portal]

im trying to upload an avatar for quest but im getting multiple versions of this error, how do i fix? never happened before

[nova thicket]

so i just need to make a forward anim, a back one, two strafe ones, and a jump?

[lilac musk]

Quest can't use custom shaders. You have to use the ones the SDK provies in VRChat/Mobile

[karmic portal]

so do i try without poiyomi?

[lilac musk]

That would be the minimum IMO, but it really depends on what you want.

[karmic portal]

i don't have any other shaders beside that

[nova thicket]

idk i just want it to work first, then i can add features

[mental zephyr]

If you want it to work, then the minimum is fine

[lilac musk]

Then yea, just swap it out and it shouldn't stop you anymore.

[nova thicket]

is it possible to import without any animations just to make sure other stuff is right?

like eye hight and hand tracking

[lilac musk]

TBH, I don't know how hand tracking would work with a non humanoid. I've never actually made one. But If I had to guess, it's not going to function. They woudn't have any way of understanding how to puppet it via IK or anything.

[nova thicket]

it doesnt have arms lol. the hand just needs to be at the controllers position

[lilac musk]

Doesn't matter, the rig is still there and would need to be told how to animate. If you really want your hands to be at your controllers, you'll very likely need to make it humanoid. If anything else knows better, please feel free to chime in here.

[nova thicket]

ok. in that case, how can i make it humanoid without making a contorted mess?

does the rigify basic human rig work?

[lilac musk]

Not sure. What I'd recommend doing, is find any bone that would more or less be the same between your character and a humanoid. Add those, then fill in the remaining as the humanoid system wants. Any extra parts that remain for your character to function correctly you can add. You'd then just animate them on top of what the humanoid/VRChat animations do.

[nova thicket]

so like this kinda

[lilac musk]

Yea

lol those teeny tiny feets

[nova thicket]

fr

i just scaled them to zero now

[lilac musk]

That might flag some issues with Unity

z length bones are a math nightmare for Unity lol

[plucky moth]

does anyone know how to rig 3d models

[lilac musk]

That is what we're discussing right now actually

[nova thicket]

this then idk

[lilac musk]

Uh, maybe? Idk. Could try it

[nova thicket]

f**k it lmao

[plucky moth]

may i get help cause my laptop isn’t powerful enough to run blender or unity

[lilac musk]

I don't know what anyone can do about your computer, but if you have questions or anything, ask away.

[nova thicket]

my man, you gotta get a new laptop

😭

this is the most cursed model ive ever made

[lilac musk]

I'm not sure if the perspective is giving me the wrong idea, but you might want to make the arms longer. Something like the length of actual arms. If they are too short, they will never be able to reach your IRL hand positions, as it doesn't stretch the rig at all.

[nova thicket]

💀

fixed it?

ig i will weight paint this tomorrow and follow a tutorial, or come back if it doesnt work

[lilac musk]

Yea that should work. Though I'm not sure about them being out forward like that. Most of the time its either A-pose or T-pose.

[nova thicket]

i can fix that later

[plucky brook]

Guys idk if this is the right channel but I’ve been trying to upload my Avis for the past 2 weeks now and it keeps saying failed to upload idk what to do can someone help (I’ve been uploading for a year now) it’s only started happening after I got my account unbanned

[lilac musk]

That sounds like you need to contact vrchat support. Might have a problem with your account

[plucky brook]

It sometimes work

Works

Like it’ll upload

But not all the time

[lilac musk]

Is it giving you errors?

[plucky brook]

It says a really long one about like Amazon or some crap idk

But nothing that’s bad

Usually I ignore it and I can upload it

But now my thing is being stupid

😭

[lilac musk]

Ignoring an error might be the underlying issue here.

[plucky brook]

Oh and I can’t put photos on my uploads anymore I have to take a photo in the scene

[lilac musk]

Should be able to change them on the website

[plucky brook]

Here is some old like pictures/videos from when it started happening

[plucky brook]

Oh yea I forgot about thatttt

[lilac musk]

That one amazon error makes me think you're having connection issues

[plucky brook]

I mean I did just move to a different state

New stuff

I’ll try uploading something right now

[karmic portal]

where do i find VRChat/Mobile?

[lilac musk]

In the shader drop down. Should say VRChat, click that, then go to Mobile

[karmic portal]

i don't have a shader drop down

[lilac musk]

Go to your material you want to change, at the top, it will tell you what current shader you are using. Click it and it will drop down to all the shaders in your project.

[crimson canyon]

Can someone help

I’m tryna import a custom texture onto a avatar but whenever I do, it just doesn’t change.

Doesn’t say anything, just won’t change

[ornate stump]

Are you actually using that said texture in the correct material?

[crimson canyon]

It’s the same as the original texture, just edited to have tats over it

It worked for the pc side

But quest side won’t budge

[ornate stump]

Do you saw the change in unity?

[crimson canyon]

Again, didn’t do this with the pc side…

Pc side worked wonders with me

[ornate stump]

Can you click on the circle button next to the Main Texture slot and pick your texture from the list?

[crimson canyon]

Holy shit I didn’t even know you could do that

It worked

[ornate stump]

So that mean the Unity UI just bugged a bit. Usually after long session runing unity. Restarting unity usually solve it.

[agile reef]

this is such an adorable avatar- is this a personal?

[crimson canyon]

Nope! It’s nami by buffin

I did edit her tho

The tats, face marks and upper lip is added by me

#avatar-showcase

[agile reef]

love your edit ❤️ you did a great job!

[crimson canyon]

Tyyy

[jagged musk]

looking for cool male avatars that are leaning towards realistic

[ornate stump]

?tag scam

[flat musk]

Hey ho 👋 I see you're looking for commissions.

You will probably receive DM's or friend requests from scammers now (or later) that will try to offer you their services. 😖

🚫 Absolutely DO NOT engage with those, regardless of how competent they might seem or their excuse to why they contact you.
This is unsafe practice used by scammers, and also breaks this Discord's rules. 👮

If you seek a creator, check out VRCTraders and follow their protocols strictly 🥺
(You will get DM from bot to verify your account upon join.)

🌠 It's extremely important to always DEEPLY investigate the account and social media of the person you plan to commission.
Is their social media linked in Discord? Is it legitimate? Are the references stolen? (Try to reverse image search posts to check.) 👀
The quality of fake profiles out there can be crazy good, be aware of that and NEVER engage with DM or friend requests that originate from the artist.

When in the slightest doubt, do not commission them and contact the moderators of the involved communities. 😱

[ornate stump]

Read the bot message above. If you're looking a public avatar, look in or post in #1138520828556890214

[elder latch]

so even though in vcc it says i have the newest version of vrcfury it still gives me this message. what do i do?

[ornate stump]

It's showing the version you had uploaded before you updating it.

[elder latch]

oh so i need to upload the desktop version with the current one rn and then the quest version again?

[ornate stump]

Yes.

[elder latch]

oh im silly for not thinking of that. thanks alot

[elder latch]

also no matter on what avatar i try to upload i keep getting this message and have no idea what to do

[ornate stump]

You have to look for errors above that.

[elder latch]

oh. i feel like ill never grasp this avatar uploading thing🥲 /j

[ornate stump]

That statement is not needed. Did you actually see other error and find out the cause?

[elder latch]

i see the other errors and im pretty sure what the issues are

[inland seal]

How to fix this bug? It breaks the eyes on vrchat but not in Unity

[little plume]

What's your eye look settings look like

[inland seal]

Wheres that

[somber sequoia]

VRC Avatar Descriptor

[keen steeple]

Is this a storage issue? I have 165 gb

[inland seal]

IS that what you wanted

[little plume]

What's ypur rotation states

[inland seal]

Default

[little plume]

Test them

Sometimes default is fucked up

[inland seal]

The eyes dissapear after a milisecond when showing on the avatar and rotating doesnt help

[ornate stump]

Is it defaulted to zero or you mean default from avatar prefab?

[inland seal]

0

[ornate stump]

Do the eyes still move if you just disable eye look?

[inland seal]

How do I check if they move?

[ornate stump]

Just take a look at the eyes.

[inland seal]

I mean, they're still

[ornate stump]

Still as in the eyes are looking forward correctly?

[inland seal]

yes

They were before even with eye look on

[balmy barn]

blender, eyebones straight up and test in unity looking straight should not make them roll back into your head

[ornate stump]

Screenshot the rotation state for eye look then.

[inland seal]

I fixed i

t

[inland seal]

The problem was in the rotation of the eyes and @little plume was correct, I was dumb to understand

[fluid sinew]

Hey, I'm trying to get the blendshapes to work on this asset. The blendhsapes work in Unity and share the same name. However in VRC when I talk for example the muzzle doesn't move along and the blendshapes aren't linked

Does anybody have an Idead why this might be?

[agile reef]

how do I edit or adjust these? ;-;

[ornate stump]

See detail here

[somber sequoia]

you'll need to unlock the shader - look at the top of the material for a button to do that.

[agile reef]

so basically- I have a model that has clipping with a shirt. I added the clothing on using modular avatar and I dont want to take the OG model into blender.
There is a UV Tile Discard that works very well to hide the upper body to prevent clipping BUT it also hides the neck. I wanted to edit that so it didnt hide the neck- is that possible without blender

[somber sequoia]

Technically yes... but the real answer is that you can't change UV maps in Unity so you need Blender or something similar.

[agile reef]

well can I use blender to edit this UV but somehow add it to the current model ? if that makes sense?

[somber sequoia]

You can use blender to edit the model's UV maps, sure.

[balmy barn]

enable 4x4 tiles in blender/uv easier to see, add another uv select part of avatar you want to hide, show it in some direction , ( since i use commands alot +1 would be >> g x +1 ect)

[sleek pebble]

anyone know how i rig these boots? i got the chocolat version but they dont come with modular avatar or anything

[balmy barn]

weight transfer would way id do it

[somber sequoia]

Poiyomi also has a decent primer on tile discarding here: https://www.poiyomi.com/special-fx/uv-tile-discard

(scroll down a bit)

[sleek pebble]

through unity?

[balmy barn]

nope blender

[agile reef]

UV bs is way too much for me, im passing this up lol

[fluid sinew]

The gestures work, but the mouth movements when I talk don't

[somber sequoia]

honestly, UV tile discarding is really easy to do.

[balmy barn]

one of the easier one , just to hide hair since its a atlas uv are near eachother, otherwise you would 'manually' select all the parts you want in that uv discard slot

(lazier way is just set hair bones to 0 as a toggle )

[lilac musk]

You're going to have to take the two meshes into blender and join them. The viseme system can't do more than one mesh at a time unfortunately.

[somber sequoia]

or use the Viseme animator parameter and do the animations yourself.

(I'd join the meshes)

[fluid sinew]

How would I toggle it on and off then?

[somber sequoia]

not sure what you mean?

oh

do whatever animator logic you like really

[fluid sinew]

I can still reference only the mizzle if I joined it to the avatar?

[somber sequoia]

sorry, I don't have any context about what you're doing

oh a muzzle

[fluid sinew]

Haha

Yeah

The mouth thingy

[somber sequoia]

If you join it to the body mesh you could toggle it on/off with UV tile discarding

[sleek pebble]

i got an error while trying to uplaod my avatar, "Avatar validation failed" (bulk of error here:)

(VRC.SDK3A.Editor.VRCSdkControlPanelAvatarBuilder/<>c__DisplayClass141_0/<<Build>g__AvatarValidation|1>d&)
VRC.SDK3A.Editor.VRCSdkControlPanelAvatarBuilder/<>c__DisplayClass141_0:<Build>g__AvatarValidation|1 (object,object)
VRC.SDK3.Builder.VRCAvatarBuilder:<ExportAvatarBlueprint>b__22_1 (object)
VRC.SDK3.Builder.VRCAvatarBuilder:ExportCurrentAvatarResource (UnityEngine.Object,bool,bool,string&,System.Action1<string>,System.Action1<object>)
VRC.SDK3.Builder.VRCAvatarBuilder:ExportAvatarBlueprint (UnityEngine.GameObject)
VRC.SDK3A.Editor.VRCSdkControlPanelAvatarBuilder/<Build>d__141:MoveNext () (at ./Packages/com.vrchat.avatars/Editor/VRCSDK/SDK3A/VRCSdkControlPanelAvatarBuilder.cs:2806)
UnityEngine.UnitySynchronizationContext:ExecuteTasks ()

[fluid sinew]

Thank you, I'll do that

[somber sequoia]

nothing useful there, unfortunately - see the first pinned message about how to find relevant errors and share them

[sleek pebble]

like this?

[balmy barn]

find and click 'fix' in sdk , bottom should have it, only thing i got out of those errors

[somber sequoia]

Yep, that's perfect.

[sleek pebble]

okay im trying again

it worked!

thank you

[sick mesa]

Do you still need cats plugin for avatar creation in blender? I downloaded blender 5.0.1 and downloaded a cats plug in on github from team neoneko and it keeps saying "policy violation" for me. I'm new to this so go easy on me

[elder latch]

can someone tell me what to do for this error message?

[balmy barn]

whatever that script is old / outdated / broken , never used it

[elder latch]

i downloaded a texture compressor tool to get textures to suit android vrc

[balmy barn]

being on root on assets is a wierd place to have it

https://github.com/Thryrallo/VRC-Avatar-Performance-Tools , checks all textures , size, compressions and easier to select something else

[elder latch]

oh alright

[balmy barn]

handy cause sometime i forget to change mine only notice when i upload

[elder latch]

oh also if i dont put them in assets where do i import it?

[balmy barn]

newer stuff tend to be vcc/alcom supported so easier to update when they need to cause sdk now hates them

that thing up there is this in vcc/alcom

[elder latch]

oooohhhh. unity is complicated sometimes but i think im getting the hang of it slowly. ty!!

[somber sequoia]

technically, you've never "needed" it.

[sick mesa]

oh i thought it's something to help the process alot more

[somber sequoia]

it can be helpful for a few small things, sure

[sick mesa]

should I just disable it then?

[somber sequoia]

that version doesn't seem like it'd work, so...

[sick mesa]

ohhh

would i need it if I wanna create something like this guy

[balmy barn]

unless there is something you muuust have, just use 4.5 lts

[somber sequoia]

no

[lilac musk]

Pretty much everything CATS does, you can just do yourself in blender. It just makes some of the processes faster. Though I'd argue it also does them worse.

[sick mesa]

ooohhh

[somber sequoia]

The viseme thingy is neat, but iirc recreated elsewhere

also nobody's developing cats anymore

[sick mesa]

i honestly just want this platypus avatar but more optimized

gotcha gotcha so it's not worth it

[balmy barn]

whats is not optimized with it

[sick mesa]

thank you so much

[balmy barn]

material/verticies ?

not seeing anything that shouldnt be quest or lower <20k there

[sick mesa]

so- the hitbox is weird- like i sink into cushions, people can't pick me up, and sometimes it makes me go really slow on some worlds. Also some worlds weirdly inflate me and i can't make myself back to my smaller size

it's cute i like going around as that avatar but i just wanna fix a few things- unfortunately it's my favorite one

[balmy barn]

non humanoid things have wierd boxes have to adjust them manually and generic just even more awkward

[sick mesa]

yeah i was thinking of making my own since i can't get the files to that avi so i can just adjust everything myself

but i think the creator isn't on anymore

[balmy barn]

see these colliders on avatar descriptors , sometime you need to manually edit them

(head default way too small)

[sick mesa]

or what i was thinking is getting a avatar similar to it and just messing with it. I found a platypus follower on jinxxy but i have to make it into an avtar first and im not sure how to do that

[sick mesa]

yeah but unfortunately I don't have the file for my avatar. I got him from prismic's

i tried looking download him but nothing's working

[lilac musk]

You can't download avatars without breaking VRChat's legal clauses. It's theft.

[sick mesa]

yeah i realized that when i looked it up. I first though all avatars in vr chat are downloadable cause I saw green download icon but it was just info not like a button

so then I was thinking of just recreatinf him on blender myself

[lilac musk]

Making your own avatars is a very fun and rewarding process. I highly recommend it. Just remember to take things slow. It's fairly complex and takes many years to master.

[sick mesa]

okay so i downloaded blender and i tried- it was not working

so i thought hmm

https://gmsboxvr.com/b/JyDFi?ref=jinxxy

oh heck

ill buy this guy

and try to turn him into an avatar. he's a follower but i wonder if it's possible to just turn him into an avatar

[lilac musk]

Pretty much anything is possible. Just take effort

[sick mesa]

yeah i'm just not sure how to go about it. I tried googling it but came up with nothing

[lilac musk]

When you get into this specific of a topic, usually you have to learn step by step. Things like google and AI are too general to take you very far. I'd suggest starting off with blender tutorials just to start to understand blender basics.

[sick mesa]

gotchu gotchu

i downloaded the little guy and im gonna play with him

[hasty crest]

anyone know the fix for this?

[somber sequoia]

import normals instead of having unity generate them. Also that's a warning so it might not actually be a problem.

[cobalt cloak]

how do i fix the bone position

[hasty crest]

how do i do that?

[hasty crest]

nevermind

[lilac musk]

Click the armature (one of the bones) and hit TAB to go to edit mode. Click the end you want to move, then press G and move it.

[balmy barn]

cursor to selected -> selection to cursor last bone you need manually but there is ways in blender to follow orientation

[cobalt cloak]

Oh, thanks, but I used the bones from my Nova, and since it's an arm for the Nova, it goes a little faster. What do I need to do again to connect the bones to the mesh? (I've forgotten it's been too long since I last did it.)

[lilac musk]

The armature modifier needs to point to the correct armature

[cobalt cloak]

cool thx

[somber sequoia]

ooh I like that design

[cobalt cloak]

thx but i didnt made it (can send you the like to it)

[somber sequoia]

nah, I'd do it myself were I going to, I just like how that looks

[stiff kiln]

Okay... I found something weird.
I switched the shader for my camera mask to Poyiomi, and after some testing, it appears that the size of my avatar is what's causing the black screen to appear (which sucks because I often change my avatar's size).

Is that normal...?

[elder latch]

what do i do if the model i got only works with poiyomi shaders but i wanna upload it to quest

[cobalt cloak]

ohh your that good in blender so if that so I have horns on my Nova. How can I place them in the UV map so I can apply a texture to them?

[pine valley]

what about it depends on Poiyomi Toon?

is it being used to hide parts of the model?

[somber sequoia]

I suggest blender tutorials, it's not a thing I could easily explain in a sentence if you've never worked in the UV editor before.

[cobalt cloak]

I watched some tutorials, but after UV unwrapping, what happened in the videos didn't happen for me maby im just stupide

[somber sequoia]

couldn't tell you what happens in a video I didn't watch

[elder latch]

well if i do switch the shader to something compatible with mobile it reveals some parts and makes them appear glitched on the avatar

[cobalt cloak]

so i shoud have a flat gird like that but i never get that they just dont show up

[somber sequoia]

not sure what you mean by don't show up - did you not unwrap it?

[cobalt cloak]

yes

[somber sequoia]

should be there then

remember that each object has its own uv map

[cobalt cloak]

(after unwraping)

[somber sequoia]

doesn't look unwrapped to me

[cobalt cloak]

can send video

[flint garden]

So basically I've been having this problem with an avatar I made... when people look at me in certain angles both far and close either my clothes or body will disappear. I've checked and made my bounding boxes bigger on unity yet the problem is persisting. Ive looked everywhere for answers other than bounding boxes yet couldn't find anything so this is my last hope.

[cobalt cloak]

Hey, it worked, but why the hell are they just little dots?

[somber sequoia]

ich spreche kein Deutsch, and I'm working at the moment. I'm not sure why that isn't working for you, sorry.

[cobalt cloak]

sorry

[pine valley]

it is absolutely an issue with the bounds of your SkinnedMeshRenderers

Select one of the problematic objects and show me the scene view

[pine valley]

Make sure you aren't getting an error. Look at the bottom of the editor after you try to unwrap

If your model doesn't have any UV seams defined, that's going to prevent unwraps from working

Seams tell Blender where it's allowed to split the UV islands apart

(this is mandatory for turning a 3D object into a bunch of 2D islands)

[somber sequoia]

ooh i didn't see that, wasn't looking close. that's definitely going to be wonky

[pine valley]

For a horn, you probably need to mark seams like this:

• a seam around the bottom
• one seam along its length
• a seam around the top

imagine cutting your model apart and laying it flat

[cobalt cloak]

so the horns are a part of the body

[somber sequoia]

doesn't matter

[pine valley]

irrelevant!

[cobalt cloak]

ah

[pine valley]

Hold alt and click an edge to select the entire loop of edges

e.g.

you can then hit F3 and seach for the "Mark Seam" operator

[flint garden]

heres the body

[somber sequoia]

just right-click, it's in the context menu

[pine valley]

hit Z to switch to "Pivot" mode in the scene

[cobalt cloak]

like that

[pine valley]

that will make it more obvious what the problem is

[pine valley]

Yeah, that seems reasonable

That may be enough on its own

[cobalt cloak]

and then i just select it and unwarp it

[pine valley]

your bounds are currently set to have extents of 1 meter, meaning that you have a 2-meter cube

the center is at [0,0,0]

I believe this is going to actually mean the cube is centered at your feet

(the "Center" view mode in the scene view is obscuring this – the handles aren't appearing at the actual position of the Body object)

Also, one other thing

Turn on gizmos!

That will show the actual bounding box

(top right corner)

[pine valley]

oh, you had a scale of 100 on your body previously

that would've meant the bounds are actually 200 meters across

what did you do between these two screenshots?

[flint garden]

my friend told me to scale to 1

[somber sequoia]

did you apply the scale?

wait, scaled in what, unity?

[flint garden]

yeah

[somber sequoia]

wrong place to do that if you're 100x due to incorrect scaling settings in the blender export

you may have just scaled that down to 1cm 🙂

[flint garden]

oh ok ill go back in blender I guess?

[somber sequoia]

export from Blender with "Apply scalings" set to "FBX All" and it'll be properly sized in Unity, where it should be set to 1 by default.

(this may result in needing to redo the rig setup)

[cobalt cloak]

shoud they go around the objekt

[somber sequoia]

they should go however you want them to go, in order to result in the UV map you want. There are no right answers here.

[pine valley]

Generally speaking: more cuts means less distortion

but it also means you have more islands

[somber sequoia]

I do usually suggest looking at seams in real world objects, such as clothing, for clues on how to unwrap stuff.

[pine valley]

yeah

[somber sequoia]

for a lot of things it's pretty obvious where to do it. For others... pick something.

[cobalt cloak]

so i shoud get to islands for 1 horn

[pine valley]

Compare the unwraps!

[somber sequoia]

"to" = two? If you want two, then make two 🙂

[pine valley]

You also might wind up cutting around the base of the horn, giving you three (side, side, bottom)

[somber sequoia]

if the bottom is inside the head, you don't need faces there at all

[cobalt cloak]

the bottom is just 1 point (the top to)

[cobalt cloak]

ye sry tow

[pine valley]

i mean a ring of edges near the bottom, at least

i'd do that if i was getting too much distortion

[cobalt cloak]

omg thx it works
Sorry for the trouble it's actually really simple

[somber sequoia]

yep!

[pine valley]

now you know!

i used to be very confused by unwrapping

(also, unwrap them both at the same time to avoid overlaps)

of course, if you're planning to move them into an unused part of the texture, then that's not relevant

[cobalt cloak]

ye

but why is one horn transparent on one side but only the left one

[pine valley]

I bet you have an alpha map

oh wait, no

that's inverted normals!

Did you mirror a horn across the X axis? If so, the normals will be inside-out

if you turn on Face Orientation, you'll see that horn colored red in Blender

Select the horn and run the Recalculate Outside operator

[cobalt cloak]

ohh i didnt know that happens how do i prefent that

[somber sequoia]

it really depends on the way you make the face. Often it's just easier to have that checkbox on, and flip stuff as needed.

[storm harness]

Can anyone help me finish an avatar for free,I can't commission

[flat musk]

Hey ho 👋 I see you're looking for commissions.

You will probably receive DM's or friend requests from scammers now (or later) that will try to offer you their services. 😖

🚫 Absolutely DO NOT engage with those, regardless of how competent they might seem or their excuse to why they contact you.
This is unsafe practice used by scammers, and also breaks this Discord's rules. 👮

If you seek a creator, check out VRCTraders and follow their protocols strictly 🥺
(You will get DM from bot to verify your account upon join.)

🌠 It's extremely important to always DEEPLY investigate the account and social media of the person you plan to commission.
Is their social media linked in Discord? Is it legitimate? Are the references stolen? (Try to reverse image search posts to check.) 👀
The quality of fake profiles out there can be crazy good, be aware of that and NEVER engage with DM or friend requests that originate from the artist.

When in the slightest doubt, do not commission them and contact the moderators of the involved communities. 😱

[storm harness]

What it's not a scam-

[worn kiln]

read well, thanks

[storm harness]

Ok I was js asking - sorry-

[lilac musk]

You're good, we just didn't want you falling victim. In the group the bot linked, they started a new way to keep you anonymous so scammers are less likely to even know your looking for work. I've heard it's working well

[storm harness]

Alr,thanks

Just struggling with an avatar and I need to finish it for a group I'm in and I can't finish it

[lilac musk]

Can't as in you don't have time or as in you don't know how?

[storm harness]

As in I don't know how

And time due to school

[lilac musk]

Well we might be able to help with that if you can explain your trouble

ah, time is a hard one

[storm harness]

Lemme send a screenshot rq

[agile reef]

trying to upload my model to vrc and im getting this error? anyone have an idea how to fix this?

[somber sequoia]

I would exit Unity, delete the Library directory in your project, start Unity and let it rebuild that whole cache.

optionally just delete that ShaderCache directory.

(note that this may take quite some time on slow machines)

[agile reef]

do you mean this here?

[somber sequoia]

If that is your project, then yes.

[agile reef]

okay ill try this thank you

[storm harness]

this is the avitar, i want to rig and add the outline and texture the leg, and put eyes on it but i can't figure it out and idk how to use unity at all i dont have it

I can send the concept art I made

And the textures won't separate

[somber sequoia]

"won't separate"?

[storm harness]

As in when I tried to texture the top with a new one and the boot,the pants one went to both of them

[somber sequoia]

explain "tried to texture"

[storm harness]

Adding the new texture after UV mapping it

Im currently on mobile as my pc internet goes off in an hour

[oak totem]

I gotta problem, so Im uploading an avatar for quest, and in unity + testing stage, the avatar has physbones but in-game every compontant that supposably has physbones are stiff as a rock, how do i fix this? so far I've tried reuploading, made sure I was in andriod for build settings, and checked if the phys were even turned on

[somber sequoia]

in the build report, does it say you have too many physbones and so it's removing them?

[oak totem]

no, it has only 8 physbones and-.. oh

[somber sequoia]

there you go.

[waxen jungle]

is there a way to use vrcfury to adjust the alpha of a material on the fly?

[somber sequoia]

Probably, it's a thing that can be animated, so even if you can't do it directly with Fury, you could make an animation to do it

[waxen jungle]

oh true, ive never animated a material before though, can you just record it?

[slow smelt]

Anyone know a decent tutorial for porting over the face alpha layer that pc avatars use to quest?

[waxen jungle]

transparent textures aren't allowed on quest, you can try using quest compatible particles and seeing if one works but apparently thats a workaround and is gonna be patched

[slow smelt]

Yes thats why i said port

:3

[balmy barn]

delete them or make them thin lines ive used that on a few av's

[lilac musk]

Depends on the shader, but usually yes

[sharp oasis]

I have a torch asset on my avatar and it has two light sources instead of one for some reason and I'm trying to cut down on light sources.
What does this second one do? Only difference I can see is its Directional instead of spotlight and very low intensity and set to Culling Mask UiMenu

doesn't seem to do anything other than make the world orange if set to 1 intensity..
I'm asking because I know lights can be used for more than you'd generally think of so wanted to check whether it was important or not

[ornate stump]

The purpose of directional light is for enabling depth texture usage to shader.

[sharp oasis]

Oh it has a transparrent cone that makes it look like the torch shine. It controls that

What's the difference between Allow Self on a Contact Receiver and Local Only? Aren't I the local player?

Local means it only works on my client. In which situations where I have a Allow Self only contact receiver would setting it to Local Only break its fuction?

[timber wharf]

local would work only on client youre wearing it ie would require some synced vars parameter drivers etc for others to see change

allow self would react locally for any player that sees your avatar and your contacts interacting with it

[sharp oasis]

Right so if I simply have a contact receiver float for example and I'm using that exact float value for an animation, that wouldn't work.
But if I was using it to drive something else, it would work becuause its using other parameters

[timber wharf]

yes. overall local is more reliable and good for persistent stuff, while unsynced less latency

and saves params ofc

[sharp oasis]

Asking mainly because I've got the SDK builder alert that I've got a lot of non-local contacts. Are they very bad for performance? Or just not ideal but not terrible?

[timber wharf]

pretty sure sdk hard limits their amount and being under is as bad as having lights and other frowned upon but usable stuff

used to be possible to easily crash with bunch of them colliding but afaik now not a thing

[sharp oasis]

If I find it's a problem I could probably make some of the parameters be synced and set them to be local. I think I have some parameter space

[timber wharf]

again, if you care about that contact results 10 seconds in the future you should probly sync it anyway

[sharp oasis]

Some are already partially synced. I just don't know to what extent. I'd have to dig through my work from two years ago

Its one of those "this mess of an animator works. lets just not touch it anymore less it explodes"

Probably due an update though

[austere bay]

how do you go past 100 with a blend shape in unity

i remember doing it years ago but i forgot how :p

[balmy barn]

dont anymore , its clamped to 100

[austere bay]

:(

[storm harness]

Also btw if anyone from here reaches out,know that I am 14 and can't pay commissions as I don't have any banking apps or anything

[left gull]

That's really not gonna stop the messages, delete anything you've put here about looking for comms and turn off DMs for users from this server

the only people that'd reach out would be bots/scammers and they dont read the server #rules let alone all a user's clarification messages

[storm harness]

Yeah,I've turned down stuff BC of that

Even advice would help though ngl

[fluid sinew]

Hey, does anybody know why this happens? (The VRCFury thingy breaking completly)

it happens sometimes when I export from blender

[somber sequoia]

what here is broken?

[fluid sinew]

This is how it is supposed to look like

[somber sequoia]

this tells me very little, unfortunately. Maybe you didn't export something and some of those objects are attached to the wrong things?

[fluid sinew]

Ok so, I changed the avatar mesh, the .fbx file (added one blendshape). I importet it from blender back into unity and then this happened

but it doesn't always happen

however when it happens it is undoable and the project is broken

[somber sequoia]

hard to guess without understanding what these "VRCFury thingies" are, sorry

[fluid sinew]

Sorry

[somber sequoia]

did you export with the same settings that were previously used? Such as "Apply scalings"?

[fluid sinew]

bad choice of words

[fluid sinew]

Yes. Apply Scalings: FBX all and no apply modifiers

[somber sequoia]

ok, I'm not sure then, given what I can see

[cobalt cloak]

some how my arms feel they are not the same Length how do i check that

[void plinth]

Animation mirror de-synchronization bug...?:

While testing an avatar animator controller the other day in-game, I noticed something unusual. For a majority of the time, the animations that I saw play from my first-person view, and the animations that played in a nearby mirror, were synchronized as normal... but for about half a minute, seemingly at random, the two went noticeably out of sync (over 500ms), before eventually coming back INTO sync.

Does anyone have a broad idea of things that may cause first-person-vs-mirror controller desynchronization to occur in this way? It is odd to me in particular that it went out of, and then back into sync, in the way that it did. I would expect that if I had broken something serious in my controller logic, it would just always be out of sync, or progressively get more and more out of sync over time.

The only potential problem spaces I can think of are that I'm heavily branching behavior using the IsLocal flag, and I'm using a lot of animator parameter driver behaviors on my states (including the Random Set parameter driver). But, if either of these things are responsible, I don't know how (or how to fix it).

[astral atlas]

Im working on a model that has wheels. How would I link the wheel spin anim to movement when the player walks?

[void plinth]

https://creators.vrchat.com/avatars/animator-parameters/#built-in-parameters

I would explore using the built-in parameters VelocityX/VelocityZ/VelocityMagnitude

[balmy barn]

something like VelocityZ greater then 0.1 do stuff ,dont use super low numbers unity wont like it since you are never 0 but some decimal waaay after , check ingame debug you will notice it goes fast up just moving a tiny bit ( less + greater = range wich can be handy )

[unkempt seal]

i missed a few updates in the year i didnt have my pc, we cant upload fallbacks now right? or am i not seeing the button? :P

[void plinth]

I believe you can still upload fallbacks...! But the restrictions for avatars allowed to BE a fallback are significantly stricter than for normal models. Last I checked, the upload UI should tell you straight-up if your avatar is invalid to be uploaded as a fallback.

in which case, a button for it would not appear, I imagine

[balmy barn]

custom fallbacks going byebye soon , too few used it so auto generated ones they going for

but its like this now

got a few but i dont make any custom fallbacks anymore

[somber sequoia]

honestly it was way too much effort

[stuck oxide]

im trying to make a render of an avatar and everytime i try to click render image all the blendshapes i have set just get turned off in the actual render. anyone know how to fix that?

[somber sequoia]

in what program?

[stuck oxide]

blender

[somber sequoia]

all I can think of is maybe it's trying to play an animation and you haven't keyframed those things

[stuck oxide]

playing the animation turns them off too

idk how to fix that

[somber sequoia]

yeah it'll probably reset anything you didn't make a keyframe for

[stuck oxide]

ive never had this happen before 😭 i dont really set keyframes for anything i just make rendered images not animations

my model has no animation data on it either so idk why that would mess up

[still turtle]

Hello! Sorry to bother, I'm very new to all this avatar thing and I've found myself with an issue I seem to not be able to troubleshoot.

Whenever I use a face gesture with Eyetracking enabled and I blink, the animations seem to overlap, is there any way to solve this?

May be helpful:

This is Eku's base from Booth

Eye (and face) Tracking is done through a digital webcam (droidcam to OBS) and directly handled by Selfie Expression

The VRC Animator Tracking Controller for Eyes & Eyelids was deactivated by default (Completely unchecked) but that made the eyetracking break, forcing me to restart OSC, I have it set as 'No Change' currently

[subtle atlas]

Hi, I'm trying to change the blendshapes of my usasaki's faces, but when i enter the play-mode it just resets to default. How can I fix that?
( first image is the customized)

[whole nimbus]

Anyone experieincing issues with uploading? Toggles are not showing that I've created or even modified through testing.

[worn kiln]

likely temp, try again in half a hour

[whole nimbus]

Thanks Tony

[merry briar]

The sdk is having a fit for some reason

-# ill be asleep

[teal laurel]

i see sps sockets ;3

[gaunt knoll]

Down boy

What are you packages on CC

[glossy needle]

Hi, I'm looking for the Jax Toy emote; if anyone has it available for download, I'd appreciate it.

[fluid sinew]

Hey, I'm trying to use UV Tile Discard on the muzzle. However it doesn't appear to work in Unity.
Doesn anybody know what I'm doing wrong?

[somber sequoia]

You have selected UV1 - can't tell which UV map you are using from your overly-cropped Blender image, but make sure that is the correct one.

[fluid sinew]

I selected the correct one.
I tried putting the rest of the body UVs in (1|1) which worked. However, putting the body mesh back in (1|1) and instead placing the muzzle UVs in (1|1) has no effect

[somber sequoia]

I can't see what is wrong from here.

oh! I do see where your UV maps are listed in the blender view, I hadn't clicked it open. Good.

[balmy barn]

wrong uv slot / material , need to see farther out in blender

this one easier to see, its row 0 , 1

if you other meshes have other uv names, merging them and you now have more then 2 , exsample

[somber sequoia]

you can see they have two UV maps listed in Blender if you click that image

but yeah, zoom out the actual UV map too

[somber sequoia]

looks good

[fluid sinew]

But it doesn't work :/

The body mesh works fine

But the muzzle doesn't

[somber sequoia]

is that a separate mesh?

[fluid sinew]

I joined the muzzle and Body mesh

[somber sequoia]

oh good. and you're using the same material for both?

[fluid sinew]

The muzzle and the body have two different textures

[somber sequoia]

material

[fluid sinew]

Booth

[somber sequoia]

Okay so you're doing the muzzle tile discarding on the muzzle material, right?

[fluid sinew]

I don't know if I understand
I selected the vertrecies of the muzzle material, and moved them to (1|1)

[somber sequoia]

Yes, that's good, you have setup the model correctly.

In Unity if you have different materials for the body and muzzle, then make sure you are doing the tile discarding on the right material. I.e. the muzzle material if you want to discard the muzzle mesh

[fluid sinew]

Ohhhhhh

That makes sense

I'll try it once I'm home

[somber sequoia]

Yep - the body mesh isn't in charge of rendering the muzzle, if the muzzle is using a different material.

[cedar edge]

Umm, how? why?

[pine valley]

presumably you have some scripts running during build that add more lights

[somber sequoia]

ha wow

a certain 3-letter acronym tends to add a bunch.

[pine valley]

121 is a remarkably big number

[somber sequoia]

it is

[pine valley]

the control panel can only see what is on your avatar before you build it

[cedar edge]

I do not have that at all

[pine valley]

notably, vrcfury has an option to build a test copy of your avatar, which is useful for checking the final numbers

[somber sequoia]

well you do have something that's doing this

[cedar edge]

how do I use fury to test that

I need to figure out what is making 110 lights

because I can't see it in any of my prefabs

[pine valley]

tools > VRCFury > Build an Editor Test Copy

(i might have the verbiage slightly wrong)

i accidentally clicked it and now i'm waiting for it to finish lmao

[fluid sinew]

That was it

Thank you :)

[somber sequoia]

excellent

[cedar edge]

ok, I have the test copy, what now

[pine valley]

Examine it with the control panel

You’ll need to switch to the newly created avatar

[cedar edge]

still 11 lights

[somber sequoia]

you have 539 particle systems wow.

[cedar edge]

that is next on the list

for now, lights

@pine valley unless there is another control panel, I'm not seeing a change with the test

:(

[pine valley]

reupload it and see if the light count corrects itself

(make sure to delete the test copy)

[cedar edge]

did that yeah, its still 121 😭

what the heck is doing this

guess its time to play pull apart and see what fixes

[cedar edge]

also lol, 90% of that is the celestial magic system prefab

[pine valley]

you can view the stats in several different places

i've noticed inconsistencies before

[somber sequoia]

ah that makes sense

[pine valley]

(mostly with my avatar showing up as Very Poor in the avatar list)

[cedar edge]

well, i'm pulling off the celestial system to see if that helps

it is... not an optimized asset xD

[pine valley]

One annoying possibility is that you have something that runs during build, but somehow doesn't run when entering play mode or building a test copy of the avatar

by default, scripts only get run when actually building

VRCFury makes sure that this stuff happens when entering play mode

I'm not sure how that would be possible though

[cedar edge]

well, how can i figure it out without manually picking this thing apart?

celestial hands was not the culprit

ok, i've taken half the stuff off my avi temporarily, hopefully this will help find the culprit lol

OK, one of the things I took off was the culprit, time to figure out what

[wispy spear]

Hello everyone, this is the first time I bought an avatar from booth and tried to upload it. Everything went well until me trying to upload it. It stucks at building avatar and the progress bar doesnt move a bit.

[cedar edge]

I think you need to give it an image?

not sure, but worth a try

[wispy spear]

I gave it an image

[cedar edge]

maybe some tags too

[wispy spear]

But as I clicked build it disappeared

My task manager shows that Unity is not actually working

[cedar edge]

thats... odd

hopefully someone here can help

@pine valley I think I found the issue prefab

[wispy spear]

Another thing Id like to mention is that every time I switch to another tab such as Authentication and switch back to Builder, it gets back to the state before I clicked build&publish

Like this

[sick mesa]

Hey guys Im trying to edit an avatar on unity and the unity window won't be displayed- like it's invisible. I'm not sure what's going on

[cedar edge]

im guessing you clicked save changes already

[wispy spear]

Yes

Its weird

[cedar edge]

well, apparently the Ace of Spades asset that I have been using for ages is only now using 110 lights? even though it's not showing any of them on the asset

[pine valley]

I can't imagine how that would happen, unless it has custom scripts that fail to execute when entering play mode

(meaning that they're somehow escaping detection by VRCFury)

[wicked olive]

guys what i can do here to upload the avi

[cedar edge]

idfk, I have used this asset for like a year and havent had a problem until recentlyh

[balmy barn]

delete it , 2m vertice one wont work

[pine valley]

none of these are errors that block you from uploading

(but 2 million triangles IS a remarkable number)

[wicked olive]

what is then

[pine valley]

you'll have to show us an actual error you got

if the control panel says that you had errors you need to fix before uploading, then you'd see them at the top of the list

if you're getting an error when you try to build and upload, share that error

[wicked olive]

do i need to del the sps ?

[balmy barn]

security check goes, nope - havnt seen a 1m+ in awhile that recent uploaded

[wicked olive]

1m is not that much tho

[balmy barn]

trash tier

[wicked olive]

why

[balmy barn]

bet rest of stats terrible too

[wicked olive]

[somber sequoia]

which window?

[sick mesa]

here i'll send a picture thanks

the unity 2022.23.22f1 editor wont display its window

[somber sequoia]

is that little thing not unity?

oh that's a thumbnail on the bar thing, right?

[sick mesa]

it is but the window won't be displayed

yep

[somber sequoia]

k, I can't help - I don't use Windows 🙂

[sick mesa]

so i cant do anything on it

dang its okay

[balmy barn]

ive gotten things stuck outside screen before, try shift+rightclick on unity in taskbar - maximize ( other ways to move it into screen exsist but i forgot what that was) can happen even on 1 screen

[twilit dagger]

sorry for interrupting but , i was told to ask bout my problem here, im working on a snake like avatar and want to have two toggles, one where it goes from the head to hand . now here is where my problem starts, i also want to make it so i can toggle between it being flying and slithering, i cant find out why the toggle that changes the phisbones from 0 gravity to .22

[balmy barn]

turn off physbone change value on physbone , turn it back on really quick - do it while you use constraint ? to move the snake from hand to head

not sure if they allow changing of value or not recently, but my older av's use that to change any physbone

[twilit dagger]

ill try that thanks for the advice.

[sick mesa]

i wonder if the file im opening is because it's a follower-

The reason why Im opening it into unity is because i want to convert it into a file for blender so I can turn it into an avatar

[somber sequoia]

this is still the way

[balmy barn]

import fbx to blender, dont need to export from unity unless whoever made it did something wierd and only a prefab

[somber sequoia]

you do if you want to easily unpack a .unitypackage... though I suspect there's a tool for that somewhere

hmmm I wonder if I want that

[small valve]

Can you toggle physbones On/Off?
by enabling/disabling the component in a animation?

Or would it not work / break?

[balmy barn]

yup

[somber sequoia]

yes

[round comet]

Wouldn’t break, nawh

[sick mesa]

unfortunately it's a unity package

[balmy barn]

you need unity in the end anyway

no way you upload without it

[still shuttle]

Anyone else having issues where Phys bones arent moving on pc when an avi is uploaded? Everything moves fine in unity, and the avatar was working good for a while then Phys bones just stopped working. This is a PC only issue.

[somber sequoia]

Almost certainly that's an issue with your specific project

[still shuttle]

What would be causing the issue?

[somber sequoia]

absolutely no idea without further info, it could be so many things

[sick mesa]

yeah it's that the unity editor refuses to launch.

I have now deleted everything and now im gonna reinstall it

[somber sequoia]

for one project or all projects?

you could (without Unity running), delete the Library folder in the project, it's full of cache and compiled data that will be regenerated when it starts, sometimes it gets screwed up

[sick mesa]

well the only project I have is that so all

I bought a platypus follower on jinxxy and want to make it into an avatar I also want to fatten it up lol

but the follower is in a unity package

[somber sequoia]

you can find tools to extract packages online

I mean, they're just .zip or .tar.gz files with funny filenames inside and a manifest

[rocky crescent]

Hi ^^
how's everyone doing ?

I may need some assistance about the VRC Animator Temporary Pose Space in understanding the requirement for it to work properly.

does it follow the head bone to define the new Viewpoint location ?
an overall explaination is welcomed ^^"

thank you everyone who will read this and answer !

[balmy barn]

ment for static poses so only moves it once (course people spam it to force it there)

[rocky crescent]

yee for sure but how do you make it actually move, i tried to make it work for like a "fly" state where my avatar would be higher than he originally was by parent constrained it to a higher target the the viewpoint wouldn't follow

[random raptor]

Dose anyone know why when i ender play mode my avatars face mesh looses all materials

[balmy barn]

https://creators.vrchat.com/avatars/state-behaviors/#animator-temporary-pose-space , you caaan move it using a camera, but boi is that nausiating in vr and wierd

[somber sequoia]

you likely have some material swap animation activating

[rocky crescent]

yead I tried that but having that setup for 3+ hour really get in my head xD
that why i am looking into that !

and sadly the doc doesn't help much ^^"

[uncut plover]

hey, I have a bit of a problem with fbx clothing, in unity it displays normally in its untouched form, then I open blender, import fbx, then export fbx, the file size increases by 600 kb and the clothing disappears completely in unity

I made sure I have set FBX unit scale and apply transforms and nothing helps

[balmy barn]

just toggle a camera on , now its your viewpoint

enjoy nausiating low fov

[rocky crescent]

my question is what do i need to move in order for the view point to move as well if I wanna use the animator stuff and not the cameras method?

[balmy barn]

you dont camera only way i know to have it stay there without spamming the posespace (plz dont)

[hollow sable]

How do i make Hair??? Mine looks very bad and its not what i wanted. It would take me hours just to duplicate and place stuff. Any Advice?

[somber sequoia]

#3d-modeling may be better

[hollow sable]

oh alr

[uncut plover]

.

[polar pelican]

Uhh...... How do i fix this issue?

[somber sequoia]

add whatever parameters are missing. Unfortunately, they might be in one of the VRCFury prefabs you have

it does sorta give you a clue, whatever NSFW Locomotion Full WD (VRCFury) is

and the menu item, seems to be gogo loco

[polar pelican]

But when i add this gogoloco prefab into other avis, they work just fine.

[twilit dagger]

hi, im having some trouble still with this, the animations seem to wbe doing what they should but they are looping so it keeps turning on and off. how do i stop animations from looping?

[somber sequoia]

disable looping on the animation clip and on the animator state

and make sure if you're doing this via AnyState, you disable "can transition to self" on all the transitions

[twilit dagger]

i dont see it anything that says "looping" is the problem

[somber sequoia]

not there, find the clip in the project, click it, and look in the inspector.

[twilit dagger]

you mean loop time?

[somber sequoia]

that

[twilit dagger]

it was alredy disabled.

[somber sequoia]

cool

[twilit dagger]

thanks for your help not sure what did it but even tho it was already disabled it is working after i looked lol

[somber sequoia]

well I said 3 different places, but if that fixed it, that's great

[twilit dagger]

ooh got cha

[snow wolf]

Does anyone know how to fix this?

[somber sequoia]

that error is not informative alone - see the first pinned message in here on how to show enough detail.

[cobalt cloak]

what is the ez way to replace the eyes on my avi with the new eyes

[somber sequoia]

delete old mesh, add new mesh, weight paint 100% to eye bones, export avatar as usual

[cobalt cloak]

But the mesh for the new eyes is on the floor, do I not have to put it where the old ones were?

[somber sequoia]

Yes of course, put the eyes where they should go.

[cobalt cloak]

but is there a eazy why to do that

[somber sequoia]

if you move the object, apply transforms after. or you can just go into edit mode and move the mesh

[cobalt cloak]

apply transform?

[somber sequoia]

Yes, do that in blender if you move the object around or scale it.

[cobalt cloak]

is ther not a why how i can snap it to the place were the old one were

[somber sequoia]

Sure, you can use the 3D cursor for that, put it at the right location, then snap the new object to the cursor

[cobalt cloak]

ohh ill try

[cobalt cloak]

do they have to 100% match the pace

[somber sequoia]

pace?

[cobalt cloak]

place

[somber sequoia]

it's your model, do whatever you want with it

I guess if they're exactly the same size and in the same place, and rigged the same, then they'll behave the same

but really "looks right to you" is the only rule

[cobalt cloak]

okay how hard could that be

How can I make sure that only the eyes gain weight without the rest of the body gaining weight? in weight paint

[somber sequoia]

tab to edit mode, select mesh you want to mask, tab back to weight paint mode, and at the upper-left is a button to enable masking. Then only the selected faces will accept weight paint.

Eyes I'd not bother painting though, I'd just use the "set weight" option in the menu to make the weight 1 for the appropriate eye bone, rarely do you want eyeballs to actually deform

[cobalt cloak]

ye foud that out some how

[tight quail]

I have a working animation to toggle an object, tested in a toggle running the animation clip. When I try to throw it in the animation controller, however, it doesnt work. I'm not sure everything the animation controller needs to run an animation for a given object tho
I put a full controller on the object with the animation controller in it with only the base layer and my toggle animation and a parameter list with the two toggle parameters for this controller

[shell cairn]

Anyone know how to fix where the particles on my avatar only show for me and not anyone else?

[somber sequoia]

probably your toggle variable is not marked as "Synced" in the parameters list

[shell cairn]

It is on already
That’s why I’m confused on why it’s not syncing

[somber sequoia]

yep, that's confusing 🙂

[cobalt cloak]

thx for the help

[somber sequoia]

ooh

[cobalt cloak]

questoin why prefabe rotate main dont

[left gull]

check that the animation used on the prefab works with the new fbx in the animation tab

if its yellow then it wont work and you'll need to reanimate it

[cobalt cloak]

ohh i see the problem the animator has 3 mesh main its just 1

I could fix that by turning the eye into a separate mesh and then re-animating it

[cobalt cloak]

wen yes how

[left gull]

what?

[cobalt cloak]

ohh i see the problem the animator has 3 mesh main its just 1
I could fix that by turning the eye into a separate mesh and then re-animating it

[hollow forge]

if anyone could help me with a fix lmk its driving me crazy ;-;

[balmy barn]

those models have alooot of face bones and can do wierd things unless you fix em, laziest way is just to merge all of them to headbone

seen some thats not even connected to headbone cause its probably a xna model wich tend be a mess

[hollow forge]

i mean i could try that actually the only thing i cant merge is the eye bones tho since, yea eye movement, lemme try that

it’s connected to the head but it’s just the visemes i’m having a problem with, if i move my head up and down nothing like stays stationary

[balmy barn]

you can also group them up using a duplicate of headbone wich i tend to do , make some wierd facial / gestures with them

most of the time i just auto generate them using cats so they end up looking like that , (ah, oh , ch = visemes) wont work on some models

[small dawn]

So i need help with getting Prefabs into specific areas in the Menu

whenever i change the Prefix, its kinda wonky

like, some of the items go into the Menu i set it to, but it get too full so it put the rest in a new HUD menu in the root

[sharp oasis]

Just opened my project and it got stuck on generating lighting in the bottom right. Force closed it and it opened fine, I open and preview an animation, exit preview and this pops up. Its now stuck on this

[pine valley]

if you're having weird issues like that, especially after a force quit, my first hunch is that the library has something corrupt in it

this is easy to deal with

but i would still advise backing up the project first (the VCC can do this!)

after doing that, with the project closed, delete the entire Library folder from the project's root folder

unity will take quite a while to start back up afterwards (it's re-importing all of your assets)

it'll also open into a blank scene, so you'll need to find and open your avatar scene again

[somber sequoia]

that's what "prefix" does, puts things into a submenu with that name

[small dawn]

so how do i put the actual HUD Menu Button into the place i want?

[cosmic dove]

When making a new project on alcomm should I add every repository or just some?

[somber sequoia]

add what you want

[cosmic dove]

I dont know if I need/want some like the audio link, av3 emulator, avatar 3.0 manager, or the vrc package resolver tool.

all the others ik about but those idk what they are or if I need them or should want them

[somber sequoia]

you only need what you'll use, and you can always add later

[cosmic dove]

yea ik that but idk what they do to know if ill need to or want to use them

[somber sequoia]

each of those things can be looked up though

[cosmic dove]

I can try again i suppose I just looked them up and didnt really find anything useful about them. mb im just dumb tho

[somber sequoia]

for example, for me, the first hit on google for "vrc audiolink" is the creator's page about it

same for av3 emulator

[cosmic dove]

ok one more thing, would you say quest tools or easy quest switch is better

[somber sequoia]

I would not say, because I use neither

[hollow forge]

anyone know how to fix the review any alerts not showing up?

just stuck loading

[proud cobalt]

• First Pic

I can't figure out why the side hair, ONLY this piece, doesn't move and is static when I move the avi in play mode.

• Second Pic

Also when I go into play mode to move her and check, it looks like this (second pic) and it's a mess, I don't know how to fix that.

• Third Pic

I can't put an outline on the X-Shaped bandaid, yet it's there but I can't see it, anyone see an issue I'm missing?

[onyx quest]

So, I've been trying to make this character of mine a VRChat model, but I just can't. It won't even let me start the process in the Creator Companion.

[somber sequoia]

explain/show what happens

[vale tide]

did you try closing the vrc control panel window and opening again?

[slow hawk]

I wanted to make it so when toggled on an animation plays when touching a contact but I'm not sure how to set it up in animation to where it actually works? I got the animation to work then it wouldn't toggle off

I tried to make it their own seperate things but last I checked toggles don't usually work when anims affect the same object?

[late tinsel]

I have a avatar toggle for quest and PC everyone sees the toggle but I don't and it's driving me nuts

And people on quest and PC see it too

It's just you yourself cannot see it

Why is that?

And if other people toggle it you can see it but the person using the toggle cant

[onyx quest]

We make our avatar a .fbx file, and then the Companion just can’t see it in the files.

[somber sequoia]

"companion" is not a thing which loads .fbx files, I assume you mean unity?
What do you mean "can't see it" - did you save the file into the avatar project folder?

[late tinsel]

Please someone help

[slow hawk]

Did you by mistake turn local off?

[zenith spade]

I’m aiming to have this bat at mid poly. He’s going to have a flap jaw rig and static 2D eye textures. How does he look? Am I on the right track for my goals?

[lilac musk]

You're doing good! Keep it up!

[zenith spade]

Thank you!

[azure pelican]

Anyone know anything about uploading avatars? I need help please

[lilac musk]

Plenty of us do. What's giving you trouble?

[azure pelican]

Error:Audio link already exists

Assembly with that name already exists

[lilac musk]

Are you trying to add Audio Link to your project when it already exits in it?

[azure pelican]

I just uploaded what they sent me and it must of already had it but this is my 1st time

How can I fix this

I would appreciate any help

[lilac musk]

All it sounds like is that you are trying to add it when it's already there. Don't add it and just upload?

[azure pelican]

Where do I find it?

[lilac musk]

Find what?

[azure pelican]

I don’t want to delete the wrong thing

When I click on the warning sign it highlights the audio link editor

[lilac musk]

I wouldn't know either as I've never used audio link and don't know what your project looks like. If you're unsure what to do, might be worth starting the project fresh and not add audio link.

[azure pelican]

It’s a payhip avatar

[lilac musk]

Okay?

[late tinsel]

How do I check that

[azure pelican]

Ok I got that fixed now it’s asking about an VRCAvatarDescriptor is required

[lilac musk]

Yes, it's a required component for VRChat avatars. You'd add one to the root of your avatar and fill in it's settings. I'd recommend watching a tutorial on avatar basics

[opal canopy]

why are they so different and how do I make them the same,

[azure pelican]

I did and I followed it step by step but this part stumped me

[lilac musk]

Did the video you watch not explain anything about the descriptor?

[azure pelican]

Nope

[lilac musk]

What do you want it to look like? One's a box, the other is a quad/plane. Just change to what it should be?

[opal canopy]

they are both a box, the one on the right is a scale of 1, 1, 0.001 but always when I use it in game its a 1, 1, 1. as well as it halfway into the ground

[lilac musk]

https://youtu.be/vWr4diTDqJM?si=qaOyahIvpIbHrCy_&t=643

Here's a tutorial at the avatar descriptor time stamp

[lilac musk]

Sounds like something is animating it, otherwise it should just stay as is

[opal canopy]

this ?

[lilac musk]

Wait, is your whole avatar the box?

[opal canopy]

basically im trying to make a flat png of a wind

but it says I need an animator to upload

[lilac musk]

The avatar should get an animator from the model humanoid setup, but it looks like yours isn't the typical rig and model workflow? I'd suggest maybe using a rig from another avatar (There is a basic avatar in the vrchat packages) and just remove the renders and then add your box. But this is not something I've ever done and so I might not be the best to help you here.

[opal canopy]

testing now

[fervent spear]

hey guys, ive been trying to add rotation constraints and extra bones to my avatar for it to work properly with fbt (the avatar does not match me irl), ive successfully made the legs work but the hips,spine, chest and neck behave really strangely (1st picture). i also noticed that when i import from blender the "armature" bone appears and is set to the hip bone, which i can fix, but i still dont really know why its there?

[opal canopy]

thank you so much @lilac musk

[lilac musk]

The automatic system that populates those is kinda wonkey. Just have to correct it sometimes

[fervent spear]

yeaa i did fix it but the bone is still there for some reason, im not sure if it matters or not?

[opal canopy]

also how do I upload for IOS?

[lilac musk]

It probably depends. For most setups it's probably fine, but seeing as your doing specific rig things, it might interfere. I'm not sure myself as I'm not experienced with any of that

[lilac musk]

Just like Android, you switch to the iOS build (make sure you have it installed) and upload

[fervent spear]

ah okay thank you

[sand cedar]

im trying to make an evangelion avatar how do i set the height so its taller than 5 meters

[agile anvil]

ok certain shaders like standard lite/toon standard, for some reason their avatar is dark in some worlds, is there a way to fix?

[lilac musk]

This is one of the more frustrating thing about avatars. You can make it look perfect, but then you switch to a world with bad lighting? Looks terrible. I try to simply add material swaps and/or emission sliders. Give myself more options for any given world

[rapid mirage]

hi so when i try to build my avatar, it always shows up as an error ingame with this error:
PPtr cast failed when dereferencing! Casting from Shader to Transform!
does anyone have any idea how i could fix this?

i believe the avatar im using is using a shader called unitychantoonshader, idk if that hleps

[astral coral]

This is driving me crazy
I used the same settings on my last avatar and used VRCfury anchor overrides fix
And it didn't do jack shit

Help 😭

[dense snow]

I am trying to animate changes in physbone properties and for some reason the behaviours do not change in spite of the numbers

[ornate stump]

https://creators.vrchat.com/common-components/physbones#changing-physbone-properties

[astral coral]

Can someone please help me

[ornate stump]

Did you double check the min brightness setting in all materials?

[astral coral]

Yes and they all have the same

Idk why when I go to a darker corner

My avatar body gets really dark

[ornate stump]

What value is it?

[astral coral]

Where do I find the value? that ur talking about

[ornate stump]

Then what did you mean by all have the same even you didn't know where to find?

[astral coral]

Oh my bad, I haven’t slept 😭

I have used the same model in the past

With different clothes

And I fixed it by using vrc fury anchor overrides fix

And both of them in the light settings have the same thing

So idk why that version of the avatar doesn’t work

And the other one does

[ornate stump]

What value is the min brightness settings?

[astral coral]

U mean the base settings in lighting?

[ornate stump]

Min brightness in the material being used on avatar.

[astral coral]

Where can I find that?

[ornate stump]

In the material. If shader it used support custom lighting then it should have "min brightness" property or similar name. And again, you didn't even look on to the value, you can't be sure that the value is right.

[astral coral]

When u say material u mean the skin of the avatar right? And I don’t see min brightness

[ornate stump]

What shader it's using?

[astral coral]

Liltoon

Both of them head and body

[ornate stump]

As I said earlier each shader may have different name so you have to look for other property with similar name too. Min brightness or min lighting and so on.

[astral coral]

I can’t find the min brightness ur talking about, I’m sorry

If u mean main brightness it exists

But min brightness?!

[ornate stump]

For Liltoon is "Lower Brightness Limit"

[astral coral]

OH it’s at 0

[astral coral]

Just like the head

They both have it on 0

[ornate stump]

So did it turn black before when standing in the exact location?

[astral coral]

Nope, they look fine, as soon I go to a world that has a dark corner it does that

[rustic bolt]

does anyone know how to get the cats plugin to work on blender?

[ornate stump]

That's when I asked for when standing in the exact location.

[astral coral]

I don’t understand what you mean

[lilac musk]

If you have the right version, it should just work. What is it your trying to use it for?

[ornate stump]

Given that world is Avatar Testing Chamber, that corner is for testing light probes, standing in that corner with different distance from corner will give you different brightness result.

[astral coral]

Yes

[ornate stump]

Can you screenshot where you put the vrcfury anchor override?

[astral coral]

Sure, also I used a head and body swapper so it will look little different

@ornate stump

[ornate stump]

What does the swapper actually do?

[astral coral]

So when u want to use a different head and a body and attach them together, u use a tool where it swaps head of an avatar and the body together

I’ve fixed the problem !!!

[ornate stump]

Ok. What is it?

[astral coral]

I copied the texture settings on the head to the body

[ornate stump]

Do you rather mean material settings?

[astral coral]

Yes! Even tho I did copy the exact same settings, I just did it again and it worked

[mighty kestrel]

need to know blender vers first

[astral coral]

I hate vrc creator companion

But thanks for taking ur time and helping me @ornate stump much appreciated, sorry if I’m slow, I still suck at using this program

[ornate stump]

creator companion has nothing to do with this problem.

[astral coral]

It does? I copied the material settings multiple times and it didn’t work and now for some reason it worked

[mighty kestrel]

unity

[rustic bolt]

i was trying to use 5.0 but what version am i supposed to use?

[ornate stump]

Creator Companion and Unity Editor are two completely different app.

[rustic bolt]

like could i get a link for both downloads cause i cant find the right ones anywhere

[astral coral]

My bad I mean unity

[mighty kestrel]

original vers of cats is super old & can only be used with old versions, i think there’s one that’s being made for cats now, but it’s different so one sec

[ornate stump]

What value is the Lower Brightness now? As of if lower is zero as you said before, then it should become pitch black at that corner.

[mighty kestrel]

sent you a dm with a youtube video & the cats link for 5.0.0 just in case it’s not the right version

[sand cedar]

does anyone know how to do the thing where an avatar displays a visual effect to the whole map

[fervent spear]

hey does anyone know why my constraints might be doing this to my avatar?😭

[uneven bough]

i'm wondering, can physbones be used to grab avatar limbs?

[ornate stump]

Yes but not in a straight forward way.

[uneven bough]

so what's the more complicated way?

[ornate stump]

Having 3 set of armature, one is for tracking, one is for mesh, and last one is for physbone, constraint the mesh armature to tracking armature and physbone armature, then switch constraint weight between the 2 according to physbone grab parameter.

[uneven bough]

can it be always on or does something have to turn it on?

[ornate stump]

It's up to you.

[uneven bough]

is there a youtube tutorial for that?

[ornate stump]

I don't believe so.

[ornate stump]

It's an advanced specific topic combining multiple knowledges so you should have basic knowledge of avatar setup and available component that you can apply into your system.

[uneven bough]

i'll see if i can tackle that tomorrow i've done enough avatar work for tonight

[tardy locust]

Is there an easy way to figure out where your armature is messed up if the associated part of the mesh is stretching to 0,0 when you import it into unity with an existing setup?

[pine valley]

what does "import it into unity with an existing setup" mean?

did you update an existing FBX file?

[tardy locust]

Yeah

[pine valley]

If so, check if the prefab got unpacked in the scene

You should see a package icon next to your avatar's root object

[tardy locust]

Naw, it's a disconnect between the armature and what the project in unity is expecting

[pine valley]

the armature comes from the model

there can only be a disconnect if you've unpacked the prefab

(or deleted bones, i guess)

[pine valley]

that's why I'm asking you to check this

[uncut knoll]

Is there a way to load DDS files as textures in unity or does it have to be done in blenders shader editor?

[tardy locust]

The prefab is referencing an FBX file that it's building off of, so you can just replace the FBX file with your own

[pine valley]

I don't think that Unity can actually import a compressed format like that

i'm not sure how the blender shader editor would help you here, though

[uncut knoll]

google said unity supports DDS files 😭

[pine valley]

oh, yes, google says you can just throw them in the project

although that post is from 2010

[uncut knoll]

its just so i can skip baking around 30 textures

[pine valley]

https://docs.unity3d.com/ScriptReference/DDSImporter.html

yeah, this got removed

[uncut knoll]

oof

Im trying to port an asset made for unreal engine into unity so if that helps anything 😭

[tardy locust]

Also, if you import an armature into your project and then remove some of the bones later when you update it, it will get broken in unity because it saves them and expects them in the future. As far as I know, you can't remove them from unity either.

[pine valley]

You can freely add and remove bones in Blender, as long as you don't unpack the model prefab

the SkinnedMeshRenderer will get updated when you reimport the model

(since it's coming from the model prefab)

if you unpack it, then the SkinnedMeshRenderer will not get a new list of bones

so it'll be missing new bones, trying to reference deleted bones, and also might have the bones in the wrong order

[somber sequoia]

at the very extreme case you might have to set the rig to generic then redo the humanoid setup, but there's no reason you can't add/remove bones safely.

[pine valley]

humanoid avatar issues are another thing, yeah

[tardy locust]

I mean, to be clear, it's also broken in the prefab

[somber sequoia]

99% of the time easily solvable

[pine valley]

you generally just need to reset the pose

[tardy locust]

Like I said before, the prefab is referencing an external FBX file

[pine valley]

Show me what you mean by this with a screenshot

I need to be sure that the model prefab isn't unpacked.

[somber sequoia]

I don't have a clue what this means?

what prefab, the avatar prefab, or some other thing?

'cause the latter isn't a problem

(assuming you have that .fbx present)

[tardy locust]

Avatar prefab

[somber sequoia]

sorry I should have said "model prefab" as in the .fbx itself

[pine valley]

please show me a screenshot of the hierarchy; i am not confident we're on the same page right now

[somber sequoia]

yeah

[tardy locust]

I can literally go into the prefab like this. I can jiggle most of the armature around and the mesh moves correctly, but there's the few broken parts that I'm having issues with

[pine valley]

okay, now open the prefab here (by clicking the little > on the right side)

This will show you another prefab

Eventually, you should reach a model prefab, which will have the little package icon

[tardy locust]

Ah, I didn't realize Azuki added another prefab layer...

[pine valley]

That's a "prefab variant" – it lets you take an existing prefab and make changes to it, producing a new prefab.

Very handy for this kind of situation

[tardy locust]

Well, the base prefab does work correctly with the model I imported

[pine valley]

Okay, so you have something like this going on:

• Model Prefab (call this Mayu.fbx)
• The original prefab variant
• The prefab variant Azuki made

The original prefab variant is working fine

But the one Azuki made has weird skinning problems

(and if you just drag Mayu.fbx into the scene, it should also look fine)

[tardy locust]

It's 100% a problem with the armature

You can see the same effect if you just start deleting the armature

[pine valley]

I have seen a very weird issue where, somehow, the SkinnedMeshRenderer's bone list gets modified

I don't understand how this is even possible – you cannot edit in the inspector, ever

[pine valley]

(is this the case, though?)

i need to be sure before contiuing

[tardy locust]

Well, yeah, something between the armature and the mesh, yeah

And yes, it is

[pine valley]

okay, so to confirm what's going on, drag an instance of the Azuki prefab into the scene

[ornate stump]

You should answet this question first: is any of your prefab variant derived from the fbx file prefab?

[pine valley]

then go to the body's SkinnedMeshRenderer, right click on it, and do Modified Component > Revert

[pine valley]

If the body suddenly looks fine, that was the issue

[tardy locust]

All of them are derived from the FBX

Oh, uh, I only mentioned Azuki because he's the avatar creator, this is all his, not some random person who made a variant of the avatar

[pine valley]

oh, okay

i just needed a way to uniquely identify each prefab :p

As long as the prefab variant chain ends with the original model prefab, you should be okay

[tardy locust]

Yeah, so this whole setup works normally

And no, this isn't a modification either

[pine valley]

i don't understand what you mean by this

[tardy locust]

This prefab chain

It's a deliberate part of the avatar and all of its variants

Sorry, this is what I meant before with the FBX— The base prefab uses the FBX file as its base.

[pine valley]

okay, gotcha

and then there's a chain all the way back to the prefab you're using

in that case, any change to the armature should be fine

[pine valley]

Try this out. Do it on a new copy of the prefab you're using

If the bone list got changed (somehow), this will remove the override

[somber sequoia]

love how that says "do not use"

[tardy locust]

That's what I'm saying, there's no modifications, overrides, etc

[ornate stump]

Also reverting has to be checked and reverted from the deepest variant first.

[tardy locust]

Yeah, stuff like this is why it says don't use— Unfortunately, I'm using a modified model that I kitbashed together

[pine valley]

don't use it directly :p

[pine valley]

oh wait, of course there are no overrides here

[tardy locust]

One other thing to be clear on is that I didn't actually modify anything in unity either, this is just me dropping the new FBX into the base project

[pine valley]

you've dragged a prefab into the scene

so the instance will, naturally, exactly match the prefab

make a copy of the prefab asset itself, then open it and try reverting changes to its SkinnedMeshRenderer

[tardy locust]

That's also why I was asking if there's any way to check the bone list in the prefab

[pine valley]

the list of bones is not displayed anywhere in the inspector; i've just seen this issue a few times, where it...changes anyway

(genuinely no clue)

The best you can do is to open the prefab asset in a text editor and read it

(i do not expect you to do that lol)

[tardy locust]

Actually, I didn't realize it was just a crappy attempt at JSON

I'm going to read it now lmao

[pine valley]

it's YAML!

i have a tenuous relationship with YAML

[ornate stump]

It's possible to use editor script to manually assign bones.