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[nocturne shell]

All right, thx for your advices. I'll stick to one then

[somber sequoia]

explain exactly what "it doesn't work" means, we can't help without details.

[quaint frost]

So when I put him in hes rig isn’t working with the human rig I’ve tried redoing his rig but it’s the same he also in game if I managed to get him in is face down on the ground in a t pose

I’ve tried the cat add on in blender but it doesn’t work in the latest version and when I do get the right version my model doesn’t even load it just closes the application

[somber sequoia]

yeah that's pretty vague so I really have no idea what to suggest, sorry

well for cats, you can go here: https://cats.neoneko.xyz/

otherwise you'd need to explain exactly what "isn't working" and "not working" means, like show error messages or describe expected behavior vs. actual behavior in detail, etc.

[quaint frost]

ill try my best to explain the issues here a screenshot of the error messages

[somber sequoia]

not humanoid - go redo rig setup, see if there's an error there, or look in the console for detail

[quaint frost]

gotcha and heres the rig setup

[somber sequoia]

there's your error - this rig is not setup properly for use in vrchat

[quaint frost]

ive tried looking up vdeos on how but cant find any

[somber sequoia]

You need shoulder bones, and the feet to be children of the lower leg bones

[quaint frost]

in blender the feet are children to the lower leg

[somber sequoia]

Unity seems to not think so - show an image of the armature hierarchy from hip down to foot

[quaint frost]

in blender or unity just want to make sure i show the right thing

[somber sequoia]

doesn't matter, it'll show the same thing

[quaint frost]

sorry just trying to find a way to show the whole hierarchy in one picture

[somber sequoia]

you don't need it all, just the ones I said. it's only what, 5 bones? hip, upper/lower leg, foot

I guess that's 4 🙂 But maybe show hip, chest, spine, head, neck too

I literally mean the names of the bones in the hierarchy tree on the left of Unity, or the upper right of Blender by default

[quaint frost]

this?

missed some heres a better look

[somber sequoia]

you seem to have multiple lower leg bones. Don't do that.

lower leg should be a child of upper leg.

[quaint frost]

those are his ik controls

[somber sequoia]

doesn't matter - VRChat has specific rig requirements, there's an image of an ideal rig in #avatar-rigging . If your rig is different, it won't be considered humanoid

[quaint frost]

and what do i do for thumbs and toes for the rig he doesnt have any

[balmy barn]

bones that must exsist

[junior void]

Well, he could use constraints

[somber sequoia]

thumbs and toes are optional

hands and feet are not

[quaint frost]

are eyes optional because they dont move at all

[somber sequoia]

I believe so

[quaint frost]

thank u ill try these in the morning since its late

[proud badger]

idk if this is the right channel for this, this is more of a unity/cc issue I think but I was told to ask here. over the past week or so no matter what I try nearly every fresh project I start tells me to launch in safe mode due to compilation errors- I've tried reinstalling unity entirely and cc both with no change, also see this every time i launch the cc and I'm not sure what exactly is wrong

[abstract wave]

I need a person to help me with creating an avatar(furry) and because I am broke af I would happily do an art commission so, if you can help please dm me

[haughty plaza]

How would I set up animations for a non humanoid avatar? I got pacman here and he doesn't use a humanoid rig, but I made animations for when he's idle and when he's moving

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1267726658916581527/1427278448585478244/pac.gif

[indigo compass]

I would highly recommend using a humanoid rig regardless (if you have enough bones then you can just set it as such), are quite a few worlds that require one to function, you can only access the position and rotation of the humanoid bones and if you don't have a humanoid rig then it can't do any of that.
And there has also been plenty of bugs related to non-humanoid rigs since it is such a underused "feature".

[haughty plaza]

ah okay

[rough crow]

unity is saying that i have an unsupported shader despite all of my shaders are using standard lite + vrchat particle shaders multiply and additive.

[radiant night]

Are you doing an andriod build

[rough crow]

yep.

both android and pc.

[radiant night]

if so you need to use the ones under mobile>vrchat

[rough crow]

i am.

[radiant night]

You probably have some object on it that is using a pc shader that you forgot about

[rough crow]

just checked all my folders which objects that i have on my avatar, all of them are using vrchat shaders.

[radiant night]

I dont know then, sorry

[rough crow]

wait, it might be a visual...

its letting me upload again.

sooo..

thanks for your help tho!

[radiant night]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

Now my own question, how should I best take poses from unity and apply it to the armature in blender? (to fix weight issues)

[nocturne shell]

Hello.
Please, if there is any setting to one of my items in the hierarchy that I want to change with a toggle, is it possible please ?

[somber sequoia]

there's not really a great way to do that - I'd generally treat that as a one-way pipeline, from Blender into Unity.

But if you're trying to copy a problem pose, yeah - that's a tricky thing, it's hard to see which way vrchat poses stuff.

[errant matrix]

Once again asking if anyone has knowledge of adding a gif type eye texture to a model :(
https://booth.pm/ja/items/5354713

This is what I bought, I have the instructions and translated them, and followed them exactly but I still cant get it to work,

Please lmk if you understand ;w;

[somber sequoia]

Ideally you don't want a .gif, you want a .png - unless this is intended to be an animated gif? In which case probably use a shader that can do a flipbook and convert that image file into a Unity texture array

[errant matrix]

so the file like gives you a gif and then it has you convert it into a png that has all the frames of the gif 🤔 if youd like i could send you a photo of the instructions if that would help better?

[somber sequoia]

oh, then probably it already gives you what you need - stick that list of .png images into a texture array and use it with a shader that does flipbooks

[errant matrix]

So the instructions it gives doesn't say to use flipbooks, and it gives a specific shader to use with it ( which is lilToon) and the instructions only say to use main colors 2 and 3

very weird

[somber sequoia]

I don't know that shader, maybe it can do texture arrays?

[errant matrix]

a quick google search says it can, ill just have to find where in the client that option is then

[balmy barn]

dragging a gif into flipbook you get a array to use or you can use a tilesheet

[somber sequoia]

Yep, this is the thing I was thinking of - very cool you can just drag a .gif in there, I had no idea

[balmy barn]

they used to be quite large but after poi ? version they got smaller

[errant matrix]

maybe im in the wrong spot

[balmy barn]

a tilesheet usually much smaller then array usually half the size

liltoon i barely use its somewhere there

[somber sequoia]

yeah I'd use a tile sheet for sure

[balmy barn]

meanwhile poi is like, drop gif here done

[errant matrix]

(rough translation from japanese to english) i copied these instructions but there has to be like outside knowledge im missing

[lone shoal]

i know that with particle systems you can change the mode to sprites so you can select a random image out of a set list of sprites, but is there a way to select a set image based on an animator’s parameter from a list of sprites?

e.g when the particle parameter is 1 it uses the sprite with the index 1

[strange aurora]

Good evening, I have a problem with a character I want to create, but it won't create. I don't know what to do, If someone could help me, thank you in advance.

[somber sequoia]

unfortunately, none of the errors shown there are blockers

but you do have 224 errors in that console, clear it, do that action again, look at the first 2-3 errors in there.

probably get out of prefab mode though too - blue background indicates it

the < at the upper left of the hierarchy window on the left will exit that

[somber meadow]

yeah you can't build a prefab in the preview mode which just gets you stuck

[somber sequoia]

yeah I didn't realize that might be the issue at first, was looking at the messages.

[somber meadow]

drag the prefab into the hierarchy instead of double clicking it

[astral river]

Hey guys, i wanna add props to my avi using VRCFury's world drop toggle feature, but i'm super new to creating animators and controllers. I don't suppose anyone with experience with creating object orientation permanence with dynamic bone interactions is available for a brief lesson? I basically want to summon a monster energy can into the world and be able to pick it up and drop it around. I have other assets i intend to do this to so a quick rundown would be amazing :0

[slow panther]

how do you fix the avatar height in the preview hud menu it says my avi is 1.39 m tall and its so tiny you cant see it

[somber meadow]

make sure your bounding boxes aren't massive, or have any large props enabled by default in the hierarchy

[slow panther]

where do you check that?

[strange aurora]

I managed to do it, but it tells me this, and I don't know how to fix it since it's my first time doing this.

[somber meadow]

What Unity version did you use to upload

[strange aurora]

unity 2022.3.22f1

[somber meadow]

what platforms were checked off in the builder tab

[strange aurora]

That's all I have

[somber meadow]

inside of the SDK in unity, not creator companion

[strange aurora]

Where do I see that?

[somber meadow]

next to the build and publish button

[strange aurora]

this?

[slow panther]

anyone have any idea?

or is this a bug

[gloomy breach]

i made a tiny tweak to my avatar and reuploaded, now itm getting the security checks failed and Unity is printing these errors

[late heath]

im not too sure how else to describe this, or if it's even an option, but is there any way to use 2 separate physbone components without it effecting the entire chain of bones? i want 2 different chains of bones to have 2 different sets of values

[late heath]

..or would a smarter way of doing this be curves? i just now thought of that as a solution

[slow panther]

it also seems my text box on my avatar isnt directly above my head for some reason but it is for other avatars

[heavy zephyr]

You can use 2 physbones components and set them both to ignore other physbones. But if you only need to limit angles on the green part, yeah, just use curves.

[olive tendon]

for both unity projects i've been working on, my avatars keep doing the bike/morotcycle pose and they never did that before, how can i fix this? ( Only in gesture manager )

[somber meadow]

do you use VRCFury, and have you tried disabling VRCFury in play mode? Also is there a custom gesture layer set

[surreal salmon]

if ur wanting it to spin u can just animate it as a rotation

[olive tendon]

wait

all my avatars are doing the motor cycle pose now

i just logged on and an avatar i didn't even edit is doing the same pose, what can i do?

[surreal salmon]

is 1 of them in t pose

[olive tendon]

one of them i didnt even work on, the others seem to be fine

[surreal salmon]

whichever is active in gesture manager will be in t pose usually while the others are in biker pose

[olive tendon]

so, gesture manager is making my avatars motorcycle pose, but an avatar i haven't touched in a long time is doing that pose and i haven't touched the files since i uploaded it

but, i just uploaded a test version of an avatar that was doing that pose in unity is fine

[surreal salmon]

is it biker pose in vrc

[olive tendon]

no

only in gesture manager, as said above

[somber sequoia]

gesture manager shouldn't cause that

[somber meadow]

what packages do you have imported and what versions are you on (within VCC, click manage project)

[olive tendon]

okay, so, the avatar i haven't touched i=in unity since i uploaded it, which has been several months or weeks, now all of a sudden does this pose in vrchat, but all my other avatars are fine

the only packages are vrcfury, gesture manager, poiyomi, vrcQuesttools and the other SDK ones

but so far this has happened with two avatars that i've been working on and ONLY happens in gesture manager

[somber meadow]

are your packages all set to their latest versions

[olive tendon]

yes

i always make sure to keep things updated

[somber meadow]

Tools > VRCFury > Settings > Disable in Play Mode, and test if that works

[olive tendon]

what will that do

do i need to open the project of the avatar i haven't touched?

this is what it's stuck as and goes into the floor, but i havent touched this in weeks

Ah, it might be gesture manager

[uneven bough]

It won't upload my avatar, any help? here's the errors i've been getting:

[somber meadow]

is this all the logs? show errors above "AssetBundle was not built" anything below it isn't useful for finding the issue

[somber meadow]

MetaballController.cs is causing issues, and is most likely for the wrong unity version. Either remove it or fix it

[uneven bough]

i don't have that or any other custom scripts on my avatar

[somber meadow]

it doesn't matter, Unity will not do anything until you fix compiler errors

it's just how it works

[somber sequoia]

were did that Assets/DX11 even come from?

[somber meadow]

They imported a metaball script for Unity

[somber sequoia]

but why

[somber meadow]

you talked to them earlier yesterday about it

#avatar-general message

[somber sequoia]

yes - but I said it wasn't going to work on an avatar so I'm still asking, but why?

[somber meadow]

They probably stopped working on that, but kept the scripts in assets unknowing Unity doesn't really function until the compiler properly works

[somber sequoia]

oh ok that makes sense. Remove that package then 🙂

[uneven bough]

now it's saying some of it couldn't be deleted, any help?

[somber sequoia]

likely none of us here have done this so... I'd delete the package you installed and restart unity and hope that'd work

[uneven bough]

they're using the standard unity shader btw

[somber sequoia]

you'd probably have to provide details on how you made this work and how it looks incorrect

[uneven bough]

i want those particles to always have that wet bumpy look regardless of the world's lighting, i'm using the standard unity particle system btw

[somber sequoia]

again, zero detail on how you made whatever effect this is

[distant nimbus]

my hair is transparent

[somber sequoia]

neat.

[distant nimbus]

no like.. i dont want it to be 💔

[somber sequoia]

oh, I see

[distant nimbus]

LOL

[somber sequoia]

shader setting then, for sure.

[distant nimbus]

yeahhh idk.. i changed the main texture to it, now its transparent

ive looked at the other hairs and they look fine, all the settings match up

[somber sequoia]

I suspect (but am not sure) this shader takes world lighting into account, since it's not specifically a particle shader. you might try a different one that does not, if you don't want world lighting to affect it.

[somber sequoia]

your main texture might have an alpha channel and if you're not using an opaque render mode, that'll affect transparency

[uneven bough]

a different shader?

[somber sequoia]

yes?

[uneven bough]

and what shader doesn't take world lighting into account?

[distant nimbus]

tysm!

[somber sequoia]

toon shaders often don't, but you'd have to do this research yourself, I've not looked into this much myself

[uneven bough]

tried the unlit particle shader and now all the texture is gone, is my light in the wrong place? it's under the particle system in the hierarchy

[somber sequoia]

a) I can't see your shader settings, so no idea. b) I have no idea what light you're referring to

I really can't help you with things that you provide no detail about.

[uneven bough]

i'm basically trying to use a light on my avatar to always have my particles lit like this

[somber sequoia]

that's the first time I've heard you mention it

[uneven bough]

sorry

[somber sequoia]

no need to apologize - I'm just explaining that nobody here is going to have any idea about how to help you with a thing that you've not described in any way.

[night ember]

Thats not really how particle lights work

[somber sequoia]

mm yeah, also that.

I was guessing it was a light shining on the particles? But realtime lights are awful for performance, so really, don't do that.

[night ember]

And the fact that its not lighting only the particle

[somber sequoia]

yep

[night ember]

You need a shader that completely removes lighting aka making it permanently fullbright

[uneven bough]

my avatar is already very poor in terms of performance so i don't care about that

[somber sequoia]

"very poor" is a wide range - this goes into the "please don't" range though.

[night ember]

That is a horrible mentality

This goes into you are blocked on the spot for causing lag territory

[somber sequoia]

its why we get 1M poly avatars that use half a gig of VRAM

also it isn't likely the right way to solve this problem

[night ember]

Its not in the slightest

Theres a difference being rated as very poor
And being an ass by intentionally adding something that you know will cause lag because you "dont care"

[uneven bough]

u know where i can find one? also it's turned on with a hand gesture so it's usually not on anyway

[night ember]

Doesnt matter if its "usually not on anyway" cause its still on at some point

Particle shaders Ig

Standard is not a particle shader

[uneven bough]

actually when i tried to upload in it's current state without the id when it wasn't uploading it was just "poor"

[night ember]

Good for you?

Lighting for particles is fucky in general

[uneven bough]

what's the "Ig" ?

[night ember]

"I guess"

[uneven bough]

problem's fixed! turns out i don't need to light up the particles at all, i just had to set light and reflection probes to "blend probes" in the particle systems and bam the particle's textures showed up in world

[cosmic bronze]

pls ping if so

[proud vessel]

Hello, extremely important question, as it's screwed me before getting the order wrong and want to save myself having to re-rig....

Do you make blendshapes before or after rigging?
I tried googling first, but unfortunately all i got was "how to make custom blendshapes" tutorials and gave up
All I need to know is which order to do it in, thats all 🙂

[uneven bough]

one final thing i want to know is how do i get my particles to show up in world mirrors?

[somber sequoia]

Doesn't much matter to me, I've done both, not sure why either one would be better

[somber sequoia]

disable backface culling in the material

[proud vessel]

I've found it I do it in the wrong order itll completely mess up the weightpainting

[somber sequoia]

hmm, I don't think I've ever found that to happen

[proud vessel]

well no sense arguing about it, because it's forced me to completely re-rig a model and it was cus i did the wrong order

if anyone knows please ping me

[somber sequoia]

oh that's very weird

what sort of blendshape did that?

[proud vessel]

I don't know?

again let me know if anyone knows i find different answers in blender pages

[somber sequoia]

you don't know which blendshape you were making?

[proud vessel]

dude

[somber sequoia]

I'm just trying to understand the problem you were having

[proud vessel]

it was a year ago, i;'m not arguing whether or not it screwed me, i just want someone who knows what they're talking about because when I did it out of order, it completely messed up the model

and I had to completely rerig it

[somber sequoia]

I'm also not arguing, I'm trying to understand so I don't run into the same issue

[proud vessel]

well i dont want to have a discussionl im trying to ask someone who knows...

[somber sequoia]

wow, sorry I asked then

[proud vessel]

Please if anyone can help me, I've been holding off rigging the model for a few days becuse I can't find anything online, feel free to ping me. Not sure what the correct order is as google has rendered conflicting results and the only tutorials I can find are ones teaching blendshapes unfortunately

[uneven bough]

i don't see that option in the material settings

[somber sequoia]

then the shader you are using doesn't support doing this

[uneven bough]

it has a "double sided global illumination" option that mentions backfaces though, should i check that?

[somber sequoia]

that's not the same option, no

[proud vessel]

I don't know if this is true lol 🥲 cus its conflicting

[somber sequoia]

yep, that sounds about right.

[astral river]

i wanted to rig a soda can so i could set it down by posing a stretchy bone, but i want the physbone at the end (the can) to stay the same size... it seems like it's not as simple as selecting which bones to make physbones and with the parameters i want... is there different way we're meant to set up posable spring joints?

I tried just selecting the first 3 bones as being not grabbable and having high max stretch, but the moment i changed the bones lower in the hierarchy, it all breaks

[somber sequoia]

ugh, some days Substance Painter just keeps half-crashing and I have to restart over and over

[keen crystal]

anyone know why i wouldnt be able to get an fbx into substance?

continually fails to load 3d model

[somber sequoia]

any errors shown?

[keen crystal]

mm its just showing me failed to load, im gonna try taking it into blender and pulling off all the clothes and then trying to have it as just the body and see if that makes a difference

[somber sequoia]

huh that's annoying

I'm betting my issues are actually video drivers though, now that I'm doing some research

[keen crystal]

is there a setting or something i need to do?

[somber sequoia]

ooh ok - you're trying to use UDIM mode with weird UV maps

unless you really need UDIM mode (for vrchat probably you don't), don't use it

[keen crystal]

how do i switch it off?

[somber sequoia]

it's an option when you make a new project

I just started a reboot so I can't tell you for sure, I'm going from memory

[keen crystal]

wait in substance or like what program?

[somber sequoia]

in substance

I mean, also your UV maps are weird in blender - probably you have islands beyond the normal border

that's how I read that error message anyway

[keen crystal]

boo that i have no idea how i would even go about fixing i just wanted to retexture this thing 😭

ill see if i can find the setting in substance

[somber sequoia]

yeah in the file -> new dialog, there's options for that and it says 'cannot be changed later'

[keen crystal]

ahh yeah that did it! thank you so much!!

[somber sequoia]

oh nice

I was hoping

my issue does not seem to be fixed by a newer video driver, I'll have to try an older now.

gotta love software you paid for and can't use 🙁

I get two to 10 clicks in and it spikes my CPU then blanks out the display.

haha I didn't even click this time

[keen crystal]

omg? oh your substance is crashing thats awful ;-;

[somber sequoia]

yeah with some projects it's usable, others totally not at all

I just used it fine yesterday

[sharp flint]

yo can someone help me with this issue??

[slow panther]

any idea why its showing up so little?

everything else is fine but i really want it to just be preview able, i made a custom animation for it and i cant figure out why shes so tiny

shes the same size as my other models

could it just be a vrc bug or something?

[night ember]

The preview thing isnt scale based

My only guess is width in the default state

Since it tries to fit in that skinny area

[keen crystal]

blender people help, how do i fix this when my camera movement gets, like stuck?

[keen crystal]

thats so odd, why would a newer one not help?

[somber sequoia]

Newer doesn't mean bug free

[keen crystal]

ohh thats true, it just doesnt like to run well on your computer?

[somber sequoia]

If I had more of a clue, I'd tell you. No idea why it's doing this

[keen crystal]

that really sucks ;-; thats so scary 😭

[distant sleet]

it should use these staff to make the Launcher work correctly or i can use y vrcfury instant as easier way?

how should i figure out which one should be used?

[night ember]

Blender rotates around a center point
Just pan it over to the model

[distant sleet]

this weapon i added but there is no this little guy inside

the sound of weapon is on but where is the guyy

this is the item

and how can i fix this error
this is another item

[slow panther]

my visemes arnt working? in unity they work but suddenly now theyre not working in vrchat?

[keen crystal]

Thank you, ill try in the morning and report back, im brand new to blender so navigating it is proving to be a pain 😭

[night ember]

Usually I just click on each axis and invididually pan them back to the center

[distant sleet]

in blender i did a shapekey but it doesnot show up in unity

[timber wharf]

are there no modifiers other than armature? those remove shapekeys

[distant sleet]

these are the modifiers

should i apply them?

i cannot

[left gull]

Armature can be left alone but the first 3 would need to be applied

i think theres a blender add-on that allows you to apply modifiers when shapekeys are present (t'was a bit buggy when i tested it) am unsure of its name sadly but its been linked in this discord somewhere b4

or you could just delete those 2 shapekeys and re-create after applying the modifiers

[distant sleet]

is these errors needs to fix ? i can upload wthiout fixing

[somber meadow]

The top 2 errors are mandatory to auto fix

validation errors will occur if you try without it

[distant sleet]

Is anyone figured out what is the problem

[light charm]

does anybody know how to create similar beam particles as seen in this picture? (not sure where to ask, sorry about that)

[distant sleet]

it should the hair root be under the head root to add physbones?

i did this on hair root and it does not effected

[frail vessel]

heyy yall, how does one use an image as a texture

[ornate stump]

All the image file could already be a texture file.

[frail vessel]

wdym?

[ornate stump]

Image itself already is a texture file.

[frail vessel]

yeah but i cant get it onto the hoodie im using

and idk why itsd not in unity when ive dragged it 1000x times

[ornate stump]

Do you rather mean assigning texture into material and something else?

[frail vessel]

ive even tried importing it as an asset

[ornate stump]

Can you show the file from windows file explorer?

[ornate stump]

Did you drag the image file into here?

[frail vessel]

ive tried yes

[ornate stump]

What did it do when you tried it?

[frail vessel]

it does nothing

it says its available to drop so i drop it and nothing happens

[ornate stump]

So open the Assets folder with file explorer and move the file in there.

[frail vessel]

ok

[frail vessel]

ok that worked tysm

[ornate stump]

Maybe also keep in mind that if the file is stored in zip compressed file then you have to extract the file first before importing.

[frail vessel]

thats what i diddd

[ornate stump]

Not sure why unity can't import the file then. Moving file with file explorer is like the last resort.

[frail vessel]

yeahh

is there also a way to make an asset fit better on my avatar?

[ornate stump]

Edit in blender.

[frail vessel]

welp

im cooked lmao

do i upload the asset and avatar seperately in blender?

[ornate stump]

That statement doesn't make sense. Upload can't be done in blender.

[frail vessel]

so i want it to fit better on the arms, im asking would i save this whole project and upload into blender

[ornate stump]

"Upload" is a wrong word for it. You will have to "import" both avatar and the cloth fbx file into blender and edit.

[frail vessel]

as seperate fbx's though, right?

[ornate stump]

Hoever you should have both avatar and cloth in the same blender scene.

[carmine spear]

Sorry to barge in like this, im making an avatar rn and i set its rig to generic since ill only need to track its headbone, ill send a short video of how its set up rn but rly my main problem is that when im ingame the headbone isnt moving with the camera..
So whenever i crouch the vrchat camera just goes down instead of moving the actual avatar down, jumping does work however but i think its rly just the headbone that isnt following the vrchat camera

I tried making an fx layer with the animator tracking control attached - shown in the video

Any suggestions?

[ornate stump]

Head bone doesn't exist for generic rig so tracking state has no effect on it. If you want a head bone, attach the avatar to a dummy humanoid rig instead.

[frail vessel]

do i attach the hoodie to the avatar in unity then extract it to blender or upload them both as seperate fbx

[ornate stump]

You will have to "import" both avatar and the cloth fbx file into blender and edit.

And again, "Upload" is a wrong word for it.

[carmine spear]

so essentially attach all these bones to it and set it up in unity?

[ornate stump]

Yes.

[carmine spear]

Alright, ty ^^

[frail vessel]

is it normal that is uploaded all the bones here but made the avatar huge?

[ornate stump]

Again, not "upload". That only makes more confusing.

[frail vessel]

mb, import

[ornate stump]

Did you import as separated fbx file?

[frail vessel]

yes

ill try again

[ornate stump]

It will be the same regardless.

[frail vessel]

ohh

[ornate stump]

That's the problem when working with multiple model source.

[frail vessel]

one sec im seeing if i found the issue on why everything was big

[ornate stump]

In blender you just have to edit the model and scale it to correct size.

[frail vessel]

how would i make the clothing fit nicer in blender as well

[ornate stump]

Edit mode and move vertices, or sculpt, however you're good with.

[frail vessel]

this is what it did

so the avatar itself is huge but the bones are tiny

[ornate stump]

Then scale to the correct size first before proceeding.

[frail vessel]

in blender, right?

[ornate stump]

Of course.

[frail vessel]

how do i know the right size toi perfectly line them up

[ornate stump]

Just look at them.

[frail vessel]

eye ball it????

[ornate stump]

Yes.

Good enough is good.

[frail vessel]

im now seeing both the pants and shirt i added have bones to?

is this good

[frail vessel]

^

[ornate stump]

Probably.

[frail vessel]

now im trying to figure out how to fit the clothing on the avatar

[west summit]

That’s the fun part

[frail vessel]

how do i do it?

[west summit]

Look up a tutorial

It’ll help to take it at your own pace than waiting for a message or m discord 9/10 times

[keen crystal]

ah that fixed it, thank you for helping out a noob 🫡

[nocturne shell]

Hi
I bought an outfit for my Milltina Booth avi and in the tatoo body folder I see that.
Can anyone please tell me how I can apply the body tatoo to my avatar please ?
Thanks

[haughty plaza]

Almost got my avatar working right, I just can't seem to figure out how to get rid of this like 5 second delay after jumping

Another model (not mine) as a frame of reference

[late laurel]

Good day to everyone. I am hoping to update an old, 2.0 avatar that is unavailable due to security check fails, without actually upgrading it to 3.0, and I am running into issues. Is it even possible to still upload through a non-3.0 SDK and Unity 2019? I realise that it most likely isn't, but if there is a chance I can preserve old avatars the way they are, or even just use the old animator system with 3.0, I would like to know.

If it's of any help (probably not), I am using a copy of VRCSDK2-2022.04.20.16.27 and Unity 2019 4.31f1. Thank you in advance! <3

[novel echo]

Any ideas on this error? I've seen this pop up every time I've wanted to update an avatar or whenever it's done uploading an avatar that hasn't got an ID yet. I've tried different SDK versions, new projects etc, no matter what I do this error pops up, been an issue for well over a year already. I can't upload anything (except if it doesn't have an ID yet) because of it since it just greys out the builder.

[somber sequoia]

hard to say without any context at all - is that the only error message?

[novel echo]

Ah, there was another one that pops up at the same time yes ^^'

[somber sequoia]

hmm still not clear where it's coming from

[novel echo]

no other errors otherwise

[somber sequoia]

is your system set to a weird locale that isn't supported by Unity's globalization whatever?

[novel echo]

and they pop up every time I go to the builder tab

[somber sequoia]

I don't actually know how any of that works for Unity, just guessing based on the error message

[novel echo]

I'm not sure what that means ^^'

[next yew]

im helping my friend make a vrchat avatar and hes using the booth model moe and the outfit is also for moe except her boobs are sticking out how do we fix this

[glacial quail]

does anyone have a base rig i could use? (not a model, literally just a rig)

[somber sequoia]

there's a sample armature diagram pinned in #avatar-rigging , it's pretty easy to just make

[glacial quail]

thanks

[proven quail]

The outfit should have blend shapes for the breast size if fitted to the avatar properly. I assume you are using modular avatar, so you can go to the top and add a modular avatar blendhsape sync component, and link the body breast blendhsape with the shirt one.

[proven quail]

I think you are supposed to add the base body texture to that material there? And then use that material for the body. If not, maybe it's supposed to be layered over the main body mat. To do that, you click the + under materials and just add the tattoo material.

[next yew]

thank you bro i'll let him know

[limpid cargo]

it looks like the have the mouth animation in the jump animation as well? i’m not sure what rig is used here

[haughty plaza]

Normal humanoid but with the pacman specific bones included

the humanoid rig is masked off

[still shuttle]

Failing to upload for seemingly no reason. cant figure out why

[proven quail]

Did you try again?

The SDK just does this sometimes, it usually works on reupload

If you have tried multiple times, the SDK might be having issues connecting to vrchat and uploading data to the server. It could be an issue with your internet or something with vrchat. (Usually if it's vrchat then the whole SDK won't work, so it would be likely your internet)

[still shuttle]

yes multiple times lol

[still shuttle]

I just singed out of the account and into a different one and it uploaded fine

So im trying again on the account I need it on

hoping it works

[proven quail]

Hm that's weird. I wonder why it's failing for that specific account

I assume if that your account was banned from uploading it would give you some pop up or message, but that's never happened to me so I don't know how the SDK handles accounts banned from uploading. Any reason you could be banned from uploading content?

[still shuttle]

Its actually not my account, someone won a giveaway for one of my avatars in my discord server and they needed me to upload for them. After it wasnt working, i tested uploading on my account and it worked fine, but it seems to keep failing for their account. Im gonna ask them the same question you just asked me lol

[proven quail]

Did you have to put in a security code to log in? I wonder if it's failing some security check from being logged in on a new IP

Or maybe their account hasn't been invited to upload content, like their user rank is too low (but that usually also gives a pop up)

[still shuttle]

they have other avatars uploaded so I dont think its that

[still shuttle]

and yes I did

but I have had to upload for countless customers and never once have I had this issue

[proven quail]

Same, it's a weird issue

If you have other uploads to do, do those and then maybe try again later, or restart the project, or reload the SDK from the top bar

[olive pelican]

I hope y'all ain't logging in to their account or anything, cause that's against TOS IIRC.

[stray axle]

Any idea why my view is completely off from where the sphere says it should be?

[versed marsh]

how could i setup some material toggles through vrcfury? id like to switch between a bodysuit material and my skin material, along with having an on/off toggle for my tattoo

[sour sparrow]

how can I make an avatar that wouldn't have fingers that are usable, would that be a vertex group think?

my avatar im trying to do has a spike for an arm

[sour sparrow]

all yku would have to do is add a toggle, then add a material swap.

[versed marsh]

Would I have it like this for a tattoo then?

i made the tattoo a transparent mat so it would just overlay yeah?

[sour sparrow]

yeah

[versed marsh]

okii lemme see if that works

[steep bronze]

Hello! does anyone recognize this error?

ive tried several times to upload an avatar for testing, but nothings working

ive closed and reopened the project, all my packages are up to date, theres no missing scripts and no alerts ether

[somber sequoia]

share the first 2-3 errors, just the summaries are fine. This one by itself is not very useful.

[steep bronze]

ive been uploading avatars for three years and this is the first time unity has stopped me like this

[somber sequoia]

usually the context is in a previous error, this one tells you nothing

Also check build stats.

[somber sequoia]

is that literally the only error?

[steep bronze]

mhm, ill hit the upload button again and share what it gives me then

[somber meadow]

enable API logging in the SDK control panel settings, and attempt it again

it could be your thumbnail in this case

[somber sequoia]

so to confirm, since you seem to keep clipping the console: this red one here is the only error you see, yes?

[steep bronze]

yes, entirely

[somber sequoia]

it says there are two errors, you are showing one.

[steep bronze]

the only other red error is the previous one i showed

yes, the same error

[somber sequoia]

alright, thanks. I'm being picky because very often people insist there's one error when there are more than one.

[steep bronze]

no problem i understand, ive come to recognize different errors such as the blueprint one, but this the first time ive gotten this error non stop

[steep bronze]

im trying this, seeing ig it uploads

it is constantly deleting my thumbnail

[slow panther]

so ive rigged a horse, now i'm trying to figure out how to make it a rideable object in unity, theres a walk, run, and jump animation, are there any tutorials out there that anyone is aware of to set this up in the fx layer? i also have an idle pose for it aswell

[somber meadow]

blueprint error isn't even the culprit 100% of the time cause the SDK actually fixes it for you, it just throws that error whenever there's an error in general

[steep bronze]

mm yes missing thumbnail.

[somber meadow]

it's probably moderating the thumbnail, or the thumbnail is in an incorrect format. Make sure it's in a proper PNG (not renamed) and 800x600

[somber meadow]

what're the details of the png (tab at the top)

[somber sequoia]

1200x900 I thought?

[steep bronze]

usually the sdk doesnt care about the size and ether crops it or resizes it

[somber meadow]

They did some secret change, changing avatar pictures to 800x600 if you load the ImageURL of a recent avatar

[somber meadow]

if you do 1200x900 it'll downscale it and look worse

[somber sequoia]

hah, figures

[steep bronze]

ive even set it to capture from scene and it still didnt work

[somber sequoia]

you'd think they would want to tell us this?

[somber meadow]

I wonder if the thumbnail is hitting some content filter?

or it can be a ISP peering problem

[steep bronze]

not sure why it would- its fully sfw

so is the image i was using

[somber meadow]

Try using Cloudflare WARP as listed in this guide https://wiki.vrchat.com/wiki/Guides:Connection_issues#Unstable_connection

as it could be some sort of connection issue

[steep bronze]

so i closed and reopened again

could this be the issue and the console refuses to tell me dirrectly

[somber meadow]

no

your issue is more connection/thumbnail related

or I wouldn't think so, you could try removing the fx layer from the avatar descriptor temporarily to test

[steep bronze]

thats the thing its not on the avatar its from an aditional pack for the avatar you have to manually install

[somber meadow]

then if it's not on the avatar, I doubt it's related. Unity is just giving out the error

VRChat only packs what's on your avatar in the AssetBundle

[olive tendon]

my entire vcc is white

[somber sequoia]

#creator-companion may be of more help

[olive tendon]

Okay

[olive tendon]

Replying to this, ALCOM works great !!

[somber sequoia]

I'm trying to not plug it at every opportunity, but yes, it does and should probably be the better choice 🙂

[somber meadow]

do plug it at every opportunity

it must be spread

[neat tinsel]

everything working as intended

[dense knot]

So I want to put this mask on my selestia, but when i go to hit play mode, the mesh of it just up and vanishes. I know it's not particularly to do with the mask asset itself since i tested the same mask on a Airi clean base and it showed up fine. I think it has something to do with my avatar, but i'm not sure what's causing it. Any suggestions on what could be causing it?

[somber sequoia]

how are you putting it on?

[dense knot]

It's one of those old assets that you need to tie to the specific bone and doesn't have modular avatar or anything, So i put it on my head root. when i tested it with the Airi, it showed and moved along with the head fine.

Ah, i figured out the problem, i think. some part of D4rk's Avatar Optimizer is preventing the mesh from showing up, as when i deleted the component on my avatar, it started showing up. Now i just need to figure out what setting is causing it.

[mortal plume]

Is there a way to use the 52 Blendshape ARKit for VRChat? I've been looking around but haven't found a way to implement it.🤔

[somber meadow]

VRCFury has 2 main templates Jerry's and Pawlygon

https://github.com/PawlygonStudio/VRC-Facetracking https://github.com/Adjerry91/VRCFaceTracking-Templates

[mortal plume]

thanks! I'll take a look 😄

[icy peak]

Alright so I’m trying to upload a avatar for the first time. More specifically a kitbash of Miz V murder drone and Fell bullet by “have” on Booth. Thing is Miz wants me to use an older version of unity. Specifically Unity 2022.3.22f1.

[somber sequoia]

that's not older, that's the correct current version for VRChat.

[icy peak]

Problem is I don’t know what I don’t know what packages and version of said packages to use beyond the ones listed on Miz

I see

[somber sequoia]

https://vcc.docs.vrchat.com/guides/getting-started

[icy peak]

I probably should reread that. Hopefully this helps

So if I reread that right it means everything is fine on my end. But errors still pop up on the console for some reason

[somber sequoia]

feel free to paste some. Generally the first ones (at the top) are more relevant.

summaries are fine, no need to open them up and post the full debug details

[icy peak]

I deleted the project and starting it up again since I didn’t make any progress, actually ima send a list of packages I have available. If you have some recommendations

The three required ones for the V base are poiyomi (9.2.43), vrcFury, and gogoloco

[somber sequoia]

get the latest Poiyomi 9.2.x

[icy peak]

Aside from the Liltoon stuff do have any recommendations on packages to download?

[somber sequoia]

whatever you want really. I use AV3 Emulator but it's up to you.

[icy peak]

Alright I put the gesture manager, emulated and av3 manager. After it loads I’ll paste errors

Oh, I got compilation errors

Should I enter safe mode?

[somber sequoia]

from here all I can say is.. maybe? I generally don't bother.

[icy peak]

Alright so the errors I’m getting is that “Preset (blank) already exists in section (blank). I’ll send an example real quick

[Presets] Preset 'Oldschool VFD' already exists in section 'm_start_ALDecalSpectrum'
UnityEngine.Debug:Log (object)
Thry.ThryEditor.Helpers.ThryLogger:Print (string,string,string) (at ./Packages/com.poiyomi.toon/_PoiyomiShaders/Scripts/ThryEditor/Editor/Helpers/Logging.cs:70)
Thry.ThryEditor.Helpers.ThryLogger:LogWarn (string,string) (at ./Packages/com.poiyomi.toon/_PoiyomiShaders/Scripts/ThryEditor/Editor/Helpers/Logging.cs:56)
Thry.ThryEditor.Helpers.ThryLogger:LogWarn (string) (at ./Packages/com.poiyomi.toon/_PoiyomiShaders/Scripts/ThryEditor/Editor/Helpers/Logging.cs:51)
Thry.ThryEditor.Presets:AddPreset (UnityEngine.Material) (at ./Packages/com.poiyomi.toon/_PoiyomiShaders/Scripts/ThryEditor/Editor/Presets.cs:401)
Thry.ThryEditor.Presets:CreatePresetCache () (at ./Packages/com.poiyomi.toon/_PoiyomiShaders/Scripts/ThryEditor/Editor/Presets.cs:283)
Thry.ThryEditor.Presets:CheckPresetCache () (at ./Packages/com.poiyomi.toon/_PoiyomiShaders/Scripts/ThryEditor/Editor/Presets.cs:743)
UnityEditor.EditorAssemblies:ProcessInitializeOnLoadMethodAttributes ()

[somber sequoia]

probably just don't go in safe mode, get all the way into unity, let everything install, then restart it and see if it starts fine without errors.

[icy peak]

Its giving variations of this except for one which ill paste.

i didnt go into safe mode

[Presets] Preset cache invalid, rebuilding...
UnityEngine.Debug:Log (object)
Thry.ThryEditor.Helpers.ThryLogger:Print (string,string,string) (at ./Packages/com.poiyomi.toon/_PoiyomiShaders/Scripts/ThryEditor/Editor/Helpers/Logging.cs:70)
Thry.ThryEditor.Helpers.ThryLogger:Log (string,string) (at ./Packages/com.poiyomi.toon/_PoiyomiShaders/Scripts/ThryEditor/Editor/Helpers/Logging.cs:25)
Thry.ThryEditor.Helpers.ThryLogger:Log (string) (at ./Packages/com.poiyomi.toon/_PoiyomiShaders/Scripts/ThryEditor/Editor/Helpers/Logging.cs:19)
Thry.ThryEditor.Presets:CheckPresetCache () (at ./Packages/com.poiyomi.toon/_PoiyomiShaders/Scripts/ThryEditor/Editor/Presets.cs:742)
UnityEditor.EditorAssemblies:ProcessInitializeOnLoadMethodAttributes ()

[somber sequoia]

again, error summaries are just fine, no need for the full debug.

[icy peak]

oh sorry

Is there any ideas on how to fix this?

[somber sequoia]

you could try the poiyomi discord, or to remove then reinstall that package, but given only that ^ information, I have no idea.

[icy peak]

im going through look through my files and see if theres anything there. im hoping so since at least ill know whats wrong.

[formal coyote]

Recently found a Vroid model of my favorite GFL2 T-doll, and jumped some hurdles to make the project more optimized, but after fixing some Physbones and stuff, I've come across a thing I have no Idea how to fix

The model turns too dark for dark areas in worlds (as seen via a test world.) with weird shaders and highlights. I have no Idea how to work with shaders but I'd love to know if there was things out there to fix this.

[wise river]

The texture probably dosent have a proper reflection map or the mettalic / smoothness is broken

is it happening in other worlds?

[formal coyote]

I've visited dark maps and the problem does happen

[wise river]

im not too versed in this kind of thing but im decently sure this is a shader error

Is it poiomi?

[formal coyote]

I have no Idea

Never dabbled in shaders

[wise river]

on your own then dawg

I mean standard-lite is washing out my textures currently

so im struggling with that

[wise river]

just flick through it in unity and look at the lighting settings see what you can do

[icy peak]

Alright so I have imported my blender model into unity small problem. its completely white. the two avatars i downloaded came with the textures in their own files. i cannot find a good video explaining how to apply these

im going to mess around hopefully i dont mess up

[ornate stump]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rRAnDMUbWt8

[icy peak]

thanks ill check this out

[formal coyote]

I found some setting but it appears I do not got poiomi

[icy peak]

good so far. rigging applied the fell bullet textures. unfortunately it didn't apply the murder drone body textures but hey, at least thats two things done

[somber meadow]

Make sure the avatar is in a model packed prefab state, and you're using the same FBX scaling options in your export settings

Majority of avatars follow FBX All scaling (1,1,1 scaled armature)

[icy peak]

hey how do i add these materials into a game object

specifically this game object

or at least i think its called a game object

[somber sequoia]

not sure which game object you're referring to, but textures go into materials, materials go into mesh renderer components on objects in your hierarchy. You're looking in the project window, which is basically 'stuff you can put into the scene'

[icy peak]

i called it game object since sdk allows me to put a descriptor on it

[somber sequoia]

"game object" is the Unity term for basically any actual object that's in your scene.

"components" go on those objects.

[icy peak]

so do i not have to put the materials into the long light grey box?

[somber sequoia]

what box?

do you mean in the project window at the bottom there?

[icy peak]

the thing that can be extended and collapsed

[somber sequoia]

that's literally just a file browser

[somber sequoia]

I don't use icon view for this, not really sure what this is

[icy peak]

oh

eh hopefully vrcfury works fine then

[somber sequoia]

(slider at the bottom right controls the size of the objects in this view, I prefer it to be basically "list mode")

[icy peak]

just tried it out yeah turns it into a list. although still wont allow me to drag the materials into it. Will that be fine?

[somber sequoia]

I'm not sure what you are trying to do here?

[icy peak]

so the materials are for the drone body and the other three in the first image are for the claw, tail, amd visor mode which should become toggle-able with vrcfury

[somber sequoia]

that second "materials" in that sentence should probably be "textures"?

oh I see, that grey box is showing you the prefab contents

[icy peak]

yeah I did that and they look fine, im just wondering if they gain the descriptor despite not being in the hierarchy

[somber sequoia]

Yeah I never look at it this way, fascinating. You don't want to drag things into there.

"gain the descriptor"?

stuff not in the hierarchy is not on your avatar.

[icy peak]

thats what sdk calls it

[somber sequoia]

You put that component on your avatar's root object.

You probably should be watching a basic setup tutorial.

[icy peak]

yeah but i dont know if im dumb but i feel like ive only seen one address it and i didnt understand it. Or maybe im being dumb rn

[somber sequoia]

... okay?

what exactly are you trying to do here?

[icy peak]

sorry im just. im just gonna try stuff. so if it works.

[somber sequoia]

watch a tutorial

[ornate stump]

Tutorial I sent you cover basic of setting up avatar including the problem you show above. So watch it carefully.

[void saffron]

Kind of a specific question but I’m trying to make a spawn in animation atm. During part of it the avatar should be fully invisible, I thought I could use a parameter driver and just set all the parts of the avatar to be invisible but it only lasts for a split second then the toggles that are on change the parameters back immediately. Is there a way to keep the parameter driver active longer or do I have to make an animation that turns everything off? Not really sure the best way to do this.

[formal coyote]

solved my issue by using poiomi on my model

[stoic bobcat]

Whats the animation look like for it being off? Maybe the anim is too short for the invis

[void saffron]

I think I figured it out, I’m just gonna animate each of the skinned mesh renderers to turn off, that should work without effecting other toggles

[open root]

GM guys I notice you guys need help on your avater

If you did not mind I can help

[plush hull]

can someone tell me again how do i upload an avatar for quest users to see when i'm a pc user (i have an optimized avi)

[ornate stump]

Select build target Android and upload again.

[ornate stump]

You could just respond to any question people asking here.

[upbeat crag]

What’s the easiest way to get face tracking working???

[ornate stump]

What do you have relates to face tracking so far?

[plush hull]

Cuz it's like two different avis in my unity package

[upbeat crag]

my headset- I don’t typically use face tracking so I’m new to this

[plush hull]

So i need to upload the pc version right, but i also have an opti version for quest

[ornate stump]

Then using public avatar with face tracking available is the easiest.

[upbeat crag]

Is there a setting for that???

[ornate stump]

Yes. And make sure that both avatar has the same blueprint ID when uploading.

[plush hull]

Ok i'll do that

[ornate stump]

I think you misread my message? Also try checking this document https://docs.vrcft.io/docs/intro/getting-started

[plush hull]

so, do i just attach the blueprint id of my optimized version onto the pc version ?

cuz when i do, and i click one the vrchat sdk, the id is detaching

[ornate stump]

You're reversing it. You must use blueprint ID of whatever you uploaded first.

[plush hull]

haven't uploaded anything yet

[ornate stump]

Then upload one first. Any of both if you're going to ask.

[plush hull]

ok and last question

can i change whatever my quest version will wear in unity, cuz it has many fits and the one i want quest users to see isn't the one he has by default in unity

[ornate stump]

Yes of course.

[plush hull]

how do i choose the right fit ?

[ornate stump]

It depends on how you made toggle for it.

That means you shouldn't have anything relates to toggle of that outfit and have it enabled in unity and upload.

[plush hull]

ok cuz that version doesn't have any toggles

i'm not the one who made the avi obv

i bought it

[ornate stump]

Then what the avatar actually has?

[plush hull]

well the pc version has a shit ton of toggles but the opti one hasn't any, just a fit on that you can't change via toggles

[ornate stump]

I can'g guarantee that it wouldn't break anything though. It's your avatar on your side and I can't see how it's made.

[plush hull]

true

i'll see with the creator

[proven quail]

So, you'd have to basically reoptimize the PC version with your choosen toggles, or put the PC version in blender, delete everything but the choosen outfit, put the Opti in blender, add new outfit (old outfit might be merged with the body, making this difficult) and then merge the meshes and export. You will probably need some tool to reduce polygons and such like polytool to make the new version optimized.

If you are treating the Opti version as a quest conversion, that isn't what it is. You could manually quest convert the PC version by deleting all the outfit toggles you don't want, converting materials to toon standard, and editing the FX to correct naked states

You'd also have to compress textures, reduce resolutions, delete and modify physbones

[plush hull]

alr i'm not doing all that lol

[unreal pasture]

when i open creator companion it goes white screen

i tried to delete and reset pc it stil does it

[somber meadow]

#creator-companion

[unreal pasture]

mb

[amber gull]

any idea how to fix this error? avatar validation failed

[ornate stump]

Are there more error above that?

[peak furnace]

can anyone help me with doing unity and creator companion :' )

furthest i got was this

[halcyon vale]

Eyo! I'm trying to make an animation that is triggered when I have both hands open and stops when either hand are not open, doing like in the picture is making it not stop unless both hands are not open - so if left or right are open it keeps playing, how do I make it so when either is not 2 (open) it stops the animation?

[peak furnace]

this is what i see rn

so i make the new project in cc and it should auto do it in unity? @ornate stump

and do i need this?

[ornate stump]

Did we had the discussion somewhere before?

[peak furnace]

wut

[halcyon vale]

you need to add an avatar descriptor to any project you make

[peak furnace]

so i do that in cc? @halcyon vale

[halcyon vale]

no you need to add it manually

[ornate stump]

You shouldn't be pinging people to ask them to help.

[peak furnace]

oh, sorry! how do i do that?

[peak furnace]

OH

WAIT

im so sorry i mixed up people

[peak furnace]

do u mind if i dm u abt this?

[halcyon vale]

sorry I'm already busy with my own avatar troubleshooting

[peak furnace]

oh shit ur good

[ornate stump]

Making avatar requires you to have 3D model ready for integrating with the vrc avatar sdk. Acquiring the model to be used is another topic.

[peak furnace]

i have a model alr downloaded im just having a hard time w cc and unity lol

its a unity package

[ornate stump]

You have to also import the unity package.

[amber gull]

the streaming mip maps i enabled them all but still

[somber sequoia]

are you following along with a tutorial? There are many specifically for this

[peak furnace]

@somber sequoia i am : ) i ended up uninstalling everything and redoing it. waiting for unity to finish rn, hopefully smooth sailing from there

[ornate stump]

Do you see error in the SDK panel? That also has "Autofix" button?

[peak furnace]

ive never done anything like this so im confused lol

i just want ribbon flow toys man xd

[amber gull]

there was but i clicked auto fix

[ornate stump]

So is it no longer there?

[amber gull]

correct

[ornate stump]

Can you also screenshot the sdk panel currently?

[amber gull]

i updated them then it it gave me the error, tried to reverse it, still error

[ornate stump]

Then it's possible that VRCFury included the invalid texture without mipmap stream enabled.

[amber gull]

should i try to revert back the vrcfury version?

[ornate stump]

Version is irrelevant.

[amber gull]

idk why it's not fixed

do i update all of them or try to revert back

[ornate stump]

Try to remove assets in your avatar that's using vrcfury.

[amber gull]

all of them 😅

[ornate stump]

That's too bad.

[amber gull]

my avi is using vrcfury for everything

so the error is related to vrcfury?

[ornate stump]

Then find out which one of them is invalid.

[ornate stump]

It's what vrcfury doing. But what required vrcfury doing that is another question.

[amber gull]

invalid in what sense

[ornate stump]

That makes it report the error you got.

[wraith blaze]

I created a prop drop system that drops a prop into the world, but instead of a regular prop, I used an avatar. I removed components like the avatar descriptor from it so it’s just a prop now.

The issue is that when I walk around, the dropped avatar still moves slightly not the whole model, but the Phys Bones react as if they’re following me. The avatar itself stays in world position, but the Phys Bones still “wiggle” as though there’s wind or movement coming from me.

How can I fix this so that the avatar (which is acting as a prop) doesn’t have its Phys Bones react to my movement?

Like is there a way to just turn off the movement completely unless the bones are collided with>

[somber sequoia]

did you stick it in place with a constraint?

[wraith blaze]

I'm not sure, I'm using a premade asset for world dropping so I wouldnt know

[somber sequoia]

you'll want to look at that then, because that's how you stick it in place

[wraith blaze]

I have no clue where I would look

[somber sequoia]

in the premade asset I'd assume? On the main object that you are wanting to stick in place.

[wraith blaze]

well yeah but I don't have any clue how it works so I hardly even know what you are asking me to look for

[somber sequoia]

I of course have no idea what you have, but generally you put a VRC Constraint (probably parent in this case) on the prop object and then use this option to freeze it:
https://creators.vrchat.com/avatars/avatar-dynamics/constraints/#freeze-to-world

[wraith blaze]

Im assuming its this

[somber sequoia]

Yep, that's the parent constraint, and it has that option near the bottom

[wraith blaze]

okay, so i would turn on freeze to world?

[somber sequoia]

did you read the page I linked?

[wraith blaze]

i was thinking that earlier but didnt know fully what it did

yes

[amber gull]

how to fix?

i cant upload

[somber sequoia]

do you have an avatar in the scene with an avatar descriptor on it?

[amber gull]

yes

i just switched accounts

[sharp flint]

anyone know how to fix this?

[somber sequoia]

see in #creator-companion for details, it's a windows update issue

[sharp flint]

I don't know how to read that.

I'm sorry I don't understand it at al lol

[somber sequoia]

the bot in there tells you what to do. Beyond that I certainly can't help you, I'm not a Windows user.

[amber gull]

any idea how to fix it?

[somber sequoia]

it's not clear what the problem is yet.

[verbal forge]

im getting this warning but i have my model rigged as humanoid any idea why there are problems

the model doesnt move either in the gesture emulator

[somber sequoia]

click "configure" and go make sure the right bones are in the right places and nothing is read

[verbal forge]

all green

[somber sequoia]

unfortunately there's no more useful information there

[amber gull]

:/

ty tho

[somber sequoia]

any console errors/warnings?

[sharp flint]

so this is an issue with the SDK itself as well correct?

[verbal forge]

just these 2 warnings

[somber sequoia]

That wasn't to you, but also I would not assume the SDK itself is broken from this.

[sharp flint]

I see

[somber sequoia]

yeah those aren't going to prevent the humanoid thing

[somber sequoia]

Also what issue, your VCC issue?

[sharp flint]

yeah.

[somber sequoia]

Nothing to do with the SDK, I already said where you can find out what the issue is

[sharp flint]

its doing it now

[verbal forge]

So what could it be?

[somber sequoia]

I have no idea given the information presented

[verbal forge]

what extra information would you need?

[misty badger]

i'm getting an error when building my avater:

[keen crystal]

so i want to copy the original animations and stuff over to the new one, which i replaced the tail of, and its a different fbx, ive tried just using pumpkin to copy it, but it like doesnt work, what can I do?

[clear bear]

is it not possible to see my avatars android stats without an android device?

[somber meadow]

switch your target platform to android on the editor

[clear bear]

post-compilation with d4rk is significantly different to what shows in client sim, so i havent a clue on what my stats are

[somber meadow]

wait, client sim? This is the avatar channel

[clear bear]

avatar emu sorry

[amber gull]

does anyone know if yall know what's the issue for this shoe? when i look on my vr only with the left eye it shows normal with the shoes, but if i look only with my right eyes it looks weird

[somber meadow]

what shader is used on the shoe

[verbal forge]

my model is doing this. it doenst get fixed if i change rotation either thouhg i might be changing it in the wrong place

[amber gull]

poi 9

[somber meadow]

what system are you using to upload, is it running windows or another OS

[amber gull]

like pc?

or the type of upload?

[somber meadow]

Yes, what device is running Unity that you use to upload

[amber gull]

pc windows

[somber meadow]

What specific version of Poiyomi 9

[amber gull]

i believe the latest version, its my friend's avi

it looks normal on pc

but when i play vr it looks like this

idk why its happening

[visual swift]

Soooo, I've been trying to open my VCC for the past few minutes, Unistalled, deleted old files, restarted my PC and it still shows up as this. Anybody ran into this issue and got it fixed?

Oh, also checked the firewall and its not being blocked

[halcyon vale]

If you scroll up a few messages you'll find the answer

[somber meadow]

#creator-companion, read the stickied message

[visual swift]

Okay, thank you! Both of you! 💙

[jaunty urchin]

Okay, I will be busy in about 35 minutes so I don't need help right away, however I have a problem and I can't find a tutorial video that's actually helpful for the life of me. I have a Vive Focus Vision headset, I figured out how to convert a vroid studio .vrm file into unity, and I added it to VR chat successfully. The problem is, I can't find a single video explaining how to set up eye tracking. I haven't purchased a face tracker yet, so I'm just trying to get eye tracking working. Can someone help me with this? If it's possible, could someone guide me through it or maybe dumb it down as much as possible? Thanks.

[timber wharf]

shouldnt eyetraking just work natively these days?

[jaunty urchin]

I dont think it does

[somber meadow]

yeah it can utilize the built in eyelook

[jaunty urchin]

Unless I'm missing something, I can't really get it to work

[timber wharf]

well step one, figure it out working with like any avatar in vrc. then come back regarding yours personal upload if its behaves different

[jaunty urchin]

I can't actually figure out how to do that

That's the problem

[timber wharf]

well, not avatar creation question, we dont know

[jaunty urchin]

I don't understand how to get the eye tracking to work, or anything in that area

[timber wharf]

we make avatars and it either uses fake eyetracking or real eyetracking with no effort on our part.

[jaunty urchin]

So you're telling me, if I import it into VR chat, it will just work?

[timber wharf]

does it work with typical public avatars?

[somber meadow]

Pretty sure you'll need to configure VRCFT to use native eye tracking instead

[timber wharf]

no, any avi with sdk3 eyetrack setup should work

thats eyetracking, not face tracking

[somber meadow]

they're talking about hardware eye tracking through a Focus Vision

[timber wharf]

so its about sending eye data to client, not setting up eyetracking on an avatar

[somber meadow]

it's either

they can use the native hardware eye tracking (EyeLook) through the VRCFT software, or setup proper VRCFT blendshapes

[timber wharf]

keyword being or

so step one is to make sure generic avi tracks eyes

[jaunty urchin]

realistically any knowledge about it would be helpful, especially anything using the VRC face tracking app on steam. i'm still new to this

[wet pier]

My avatars face is out of sync with the rest of the body. Ive tried seperating the mesh by material and making the face a seperate model but it breaks visemes.

[prisma nest]

anyone else experiencing the CreatorCompanion just being a blank white screen?

[somber meadow]

stickied message in #creator-companion

[keen crystal]

Bump

[dense hull]

Ive been at this for hours ive installed plugins for blender ive rotated the model in blender every which way i asked a friend of mine whos been doing this way longer than i have and ive gotten nowhere

does anybody know how to fix this?

[somber sequoia]

fix what?

[dense hull]

its rotated 90 degrees when i apply the mesh to the model

[somber sequoia]

it being what exactly?

[dense hull]

the shirt

[somber sequoia]

wait, what does "apply the mesh to the model" mean exactly?

[somber sequoia]

?

you said blender, are you in Unity?

[dense hull]

you can change the mesh a object in unity uses

[somber sequoia]

why would you do that though?

[dense hull]

because i needed to fix its blendshapes?

[somber sequoia]

it might help if you explained the process you are using

[dense hull]

1.Import the fbx for the shirt into blender
2.Edit the blendshapes as needed to correctly fit the avatar
3.Export the model as a fbx from blender
4.import the new fbx into unity
5.Change the object to use the new fbx instead of the old one

[somber sequoia]

I'm not sure why you'd do step 5 there at all

just overwrite the .fbx

[dense hull]

because it came with all the clothing and stuff in one fbx and any time i try to edit a whole avatar in blender it completely breaks in unity

like exploded polygons and shit

[somber sequoia]

then you're exporting from Blender with different settings than was previously used

[dense hull]

well ive fiddled with the various export settings it presents you with and havent seen any changes

[somber sequoia]

usually it's setting "Apply scaling" wrong

[dense hull]

which one should i be using?

[somber sequoia]

FBX All unless you know otherwise

[onyx owl]

Ye, I usally have a default preset I use to make sure the doesn't happen

[somber sequoia]

Same!

[onyx owl]

Horay!

[dense hull]

now its huge and sideways

[onyx owl]

Prob cuz ur not using the og one with the proper settings

[dense hull]

alr ill try replacing the whole original fbx give me a minute

[versed marsh]

how do i configure my unshown state on my avatar?

my bra is missing for some reason on it so i just flash people unintendedly when im unshown

[onyx owl]

Turn on render off camera

It should be on the meshes component if it's a skinned mesh

[timber wharf]

@versed marsh your default state (outside of playmode) should be uuh decent

or whatever you want people to see

not bare naked nor everything enabled at once

[versed marsh]

let me open my unity up quick and see, one moment

[steel raven]

Is anyone having this problem ?

[somber meadow]

#creator-companion read the stickied message

[hybrid basin]

I can't get my creator companion to work for the life of me

[hybrid basin]

oop! sorry, didn't see this

[versed marsh]

how do i check to make sure its fixe/

fixed'

is there a way to see my unshown state in unity?

[timber wharf]

its literally what you have outside of playmode

[versed marsh]

ohh,, huh. okay

[willow vale]

Hello, I would like to implement a hitbox that triggers a sound when my character holds an object in their hand and touches another player. What would be the best way to go about doing that? Thanks a lot!

[wanton cedar]

Is it a white screen?

[hybrid basin]

My gacha capsules disappear when I lock my Poi shader. Any ideas how I can prevent this? I'm assuming it has to do with a setting somewhere, maybe with the transparency, but I can't figure it out

[hybrid basin]

Yeah, but I'm using ALCOM now, so we're good

[wanton cedar]

Also whats the best way to go about spinning an object seamlessly? I have a fan, but it snaps back to 0 once its done, and it looks very ugly. I have it going from 0 to 360

[somber meadow]

Select the keyframes, and right click them to change how they're interpolated

pretty sure you'd want something linear if you want consistence, been a while since I messed with keyframes so my memory can be a bit rusty about it

[hybrid basin]

figured out my transparency problem

[severe flume]

How do I use a weapon in VRChat? I have an avatar that comes with a gun.

In fact, more than one

[somber meadow]

that's really vague

there's not really a universal "gun system"

[severe flume]

I know there’s a way to use an item or weapon

I changed my name to the one I use on VR Chat, so you’ll be able to find me there.

[somber sequoia]

your avatar would have menu items for it, or some other action that the creator would have documented for you. Nobody here is going to be able to help without having the same avatar.

[wanton cedar]

I added 2 bones with no weight and my entire avatar disappeared after i reimported it

[somber sequoia]

wrong export settings - set "apply scalings" to "FBX All" unless you know it needs to be something else

[wanton cedar]

where does it say apply scalings??

I've always exported it this way with no issues

[somber sequoia]

in the blender export dialog

[wanton cedar]

yeah that did nothing

[somber sequoia]

ah well, it's usually the fix.

[wanton cedar]

Unity is really pmo today

😋 👍🏻 Can't wait to redo all of my unity work

[pine patrol]

hey my creator companion app opens on a blank white screen, Ive reinstalled it and its still doing it, can anyone help me fix it?

[wanton cedar]

i think its the new windows update

mine did that too

Just use unity hub to get to the projects for now

[pine patrol]

I take it it'll fix itself eventually then

[somber sequoia]

see the bot's message in #creator-companion

[wanton cedar]

would this happen to be the culprit

[somber sequoia]

no idea what that is

ideally look at the first 2-3 errors, not random middle ones, but I've never seen that one

[wanton cedar]

The other errors are just talking about a polygon being removed for self intersecting. Thats it

[craggy widget]

why is my friends avatar head directed upwards even though in game I am looking forward? he showed me how it looks in game and I'm also looking at the model but it seems like nothing is wrong with it

[wet pier]

still looking for help on this

[somber sequoia]

is that a separate object? How is this connected?

[wet pier]

Same mesh.

same object

idk why it does this

[somber sequoia]

weight painting then

Usually the face is painted 100% to the head bone. Might not be here

[craggy widget]

it's weight painting my friend

take the model, go into blender and select the mesh. go to weight painting mode and find "head"

show me what you see pls :)

[somber sequoia]

... or select a vertex on the face, see what bones it's weighted to in the "Item" panel of the "n" popup

[craggy widget]

or that yea

[wet pier]

oh my god

they literally forgot to paint it

[somber sequoia]

oh well that'll be an issue 🙂

For the record, I've also done this more than once.

[misty spear]

does anyone know why neither my avatars hair or head will stay connected, ive tried just about every way to parent them to the head bone and weight paint and none of it seems to make a difference in this problem

[somber sequoia]

Yep, probably same answer as given to the person above

SDK 3.8 bugs again maybe?

[severe flume]

I just found out you have to play VR Chat using a VR headset. You have to use a grab gesture to draw the weapon and fire it.

Unfortunately, I don’t have a headset yet?

[somber sequoia]

you can play in desktop mode

[severe flume]

Which one do you recommend I use for VRchat?

[somber sequoia]

but yeah, can't do lots of gestures there

[severe flume]

I spoke with a creator of a few avatars that came with weapons and you have to have a VR headset to use the weapons. It’s not for desktop.

[somber sequoia]

yeah must be those specific avatars.

[severe flume]

Which headset do you recommend I get?

Oculus, PlayStation VR…?

[somber sequoia]

I don't really make recommendations.

[severe flume]

What kind do you have?

[dapper echo]

How can I find whatever's trying to access this destroyed parent constraint? It's been screaming at me for 30 minutes and not letting me upload my avatar.

[keen crystal]

You should ask people in general

[burnt solstice]

hey can yall send me the VCC yall use

mines broke

it keep white screening

[somber sequoia]

see the bot message in #creator-companion

[orchid abyss]

if you haven't found a fix, try clicking on the mesh (the hair for example) and seeing if there's two armatures! it'll be in the same place you do data transfer I believe, I'm not home atm

[somber sequoia]

the modifiers tab

[orchid abyss]

that one yeah

delete the armature that shows up as red

[dapper echo]

Can anyone help me find out what's causing this error?

[icy peak]

So trying to make a toggle for simple wings, and later some claws. Do i leave add action blank?

[languid summit]

What happens if I don’t give my avi a humanoid rig for the armature

[icy peak]

hold on i think object toggle is the right one

[somber sequoia]

no IK, no movement or locomotion animations, you're on your own

[languid summit]

Hmm ive got an armature but my avi still be on the ground acting like a surfboard

[junior void]

Having an armature is not the same as the mesh being parented to it

[languid summit]

So how do I parent the mesh to the armature

[glass solar]

is there a way I can customize or move the killfrenzy avatar text bubble

[languid summit]

Because I’ve got this

Or should I delete the armature and just have 1 armature and thats it?

I did this when I was a head why can’t I do it now

I know what’s wrong

Don’t bother importing as fbx

It sucks

[glass solar]

also I added the killfrenzy avatar text but for some reason when I de-select a toggle the aniamtion wont go back

[junior void]

You have it the wrong way around

Currently your armature is under the mesh

The mesh should be under the armature

[glass solar]

does anyone know how to fix this

[languid summit]

I want a robe like ahsoka has

On my proot

Like the head part

[sour quartz]

trying to figure out how to get my textures onto this avatar after i've exported it from blender. i've never really used unity before so im a bit lost

i've just finished doing a reskin as part of an art trade with someone and now im at the step where i need to get it into vrc, would really appreciate if someone could guide me as i dont know my way around unity and im struggling to find any good tutorials

[night ember]

click fbx
go to materials tab in the inspector on the right
extract materials to whatever folder

slap on the textures onto each material

[sour quartz]

awesome. thank you

right, now to figure out the rest. i should be good with tutorials from here

[verbal forge]

any ideas

[worldly wadi]

i have what i hope is a super simple question

is there a way to add more animations including the like default ones if they arent on the model by default ?

[static perch]

What else do I need to do in blender before/in order to transfer over to unity? I have more or less a base, its consist of straight up just fixed up metaballs, but the base itself is unedited undesigned, and uncolored, I’ve never done this before so just wondering if that’s a blender thing or unity?

Gunna go to bed and pick this back up tomorrow, ping me in your reply please

[sour quartz]

im so close to getting this avatar fully working. the only problem im having is with the eyes. (this avatar is suppost to only have one pupil btw) it seems that the eye rotates wayy to far. is there a way i can ajust that? and secondly is the eyelids. it wants me to select a blendshape for both the eyes, but the blendshapes are seperate for each eye. thanks in advance for any help

[ornate stump]

You should never assign same blendshape to more than one place. If it doesn't have blink both eye blendshape then you have to create one in blender.

If eye look move too far then make sure that you edit and preview eye look correctly in narrower range.

[night ember]

do what now

[worldly wadi]

ima be honest

i dug myself into a deeper hole

i had some clothes for the model and i thought for some reason it would be as simple as just import save and go

and it wasnt

how do i make the toggles work currently in game only the default toggles are showing up

[night ember]

did you even set up a parameter list and menu

[worldly wadi]

oh boy

[night ember]

like its 2 slots in the avatar descriptor

if unity wasnt being an ass I would screenshot

[worldly wadi]

ill watch a yt video when im off of work again becuase i dont know these words LOL

[ornate stump]

This only applied to items being sold as package and said to be integrated with modular avatar or vrcfury.

[worldly wadi]

i only assumed becuase it was specifically for the model im using so i figured they would have integration aswell

[night ember]

integration isnt some automatic thing

[worldly wadi]

im pretty new to this stuff and im trying to do it all myself so i dont know a lot tbh

[ornate stump]

This only means the cloth is only fitted by size and has compatible bones. Integrating into avatar is still requires extra steps.

[worldly wadi]

Ohhh

I'll look into that

Goodnight ty guys for the info

[blissful trellis]

is there anyway to adjust what textures material combiner prioritizes in size in an atlas?

[sour quartz]

ok, ive got one last issue. and its that the avatars mouth seems to be stuck in this position when it should be closed like this

[left gull]

Check if theres a jawbone setup in the .FBX's configure section

if there is then remove it and it should close the mouth

[languid summit]

How do I get a plane to stay in place on the head?

In trying to make a hooded robe

[ornate stump]

You have to be more specific about your question. In what application, unity or blender? What plane is made of? And so on.

[languid summit]

Blender

[ornate stump]

Is that only what you can explain?

[languid summit]

Cloth

[ornate stump]

Remember, the answer can be only as good as the question being asked.

[languid summit]

Trying to get this to form on the ears so I know what to cut out

[ornate stump]

This actually sounds like you are in modeling phase, opposed to your initial question "get a plane to stay in place on the head" which should be in rigging phase.

[languid summit]

I want this to stay in place

[ornate stump]

Then you have to weight paint it to a head bone or any bone that's a child of head bone.

[languid summit]

Im just trying to get a hooded robe lmao

[ornate stump]

I'm not sure what you expect from saying that.

[languid summit]

Yea no this is hard looks like no clothes for me lol

[ornate stump]

Ok whatever you do.

[amber gull]

can someone help

does anyone know if yall know what's the issue for this shoe? when i look on my vr only with the left eye it shows normal with the shoes, but if i look only with my right eyes it looks weird

[ornate stump]

The shader somehow became invalid. Try creating a new material for it.

[amber gull]

like new material or change the version of the poi shader?