avatar-help

[tame cave]

does anyone know the name of this hair?

[arctic ginkgo]

i don't know what to do right now... all my blendtrees files have been destroyed????

what do i do?? this is DAYS of work needed for the upcoming avatar jam, which is due in TWO DAYS

i'm about to cry right now

it's all gone

i didn't even do anything out of the ordinary, no crashes, nothing...

[night ember]

you didnt back up the project?

[arctic ginkgo]

no, and i feel like an idiot now

i can probably rebuild them if i try

i mean i know what everything is supposed to do

i'm just so frustrated

and i don't know what even cause this

the only thing i did was switch to android build target and upload

I've never had issues with this before either

like a random folder of assets getting corrupted??

everything seems to be working in the build i uploaded just before checking those files

[arctic ginkgo]

holy shit i accidentally made a backup of all my blendtrees bc of a program that made a new version of my FX controller with stuff added on I am so lucky rn

[gleaming steeple]

anyone can help me adding eye pointer (modular avatar) and Vyath's dances using vrc fury looks like it dont allow me to have custom expression menu/parameter here is the result and I dont get it

it double all my menus for idk what reason

I try with many other Menu/parameter its the same result

expression suppose to be empty for vrc fury :/

[somber sequoia]

#1138520828556890214

[dawn wharf]

Folders can get moved or misplaced when creating, you may have accidentally either deleted the project or moved it

[rose ember]

what can i do here

[limpid cargo]

remove something

[limpid cargo]

ask the creator

[arctic ginkgo]

I didn't, this happened while the project was open

But I'm thinking the thing that saved my blendtress may have been what corrupted them in the first place, and because it overwrote the asset references in the FX controller, i was unaware of the issue until later

[wicked valley]

so i bougth a skeleton asset, what shader do i use to make something translucent?

[limpid cargo]

any shader with a “fade” “transclipping” or “transparent” rendering option.

[wicked valley]

the only issue with trasparrent is this

you can see the inside of the mouth

[limpid cargo]

that is how transparency works, yes

use another rendering mode, try backface culling, or give the mouth transparent then…

[wicked valley]

all i can think of doing is erasing the inside of the mouth on the tex sheet

[gleaming steeple]

Anyone know how to do animation repathing pls?

np I found how

[dawn wharf]

but it did end of replacing something, so technically something was moved, regardless, I hope you can recover your files somehow!

[dawn wharf]

too cute! poiyomi grab pass usually works good for this kind of thing

[wicked valley]

so ive set it to toon grab pass, how do increase transparency

[arctic ginkgo]

right.. but the file that was altered by the program was not any of the files that got corrupted

like i said, i was able to save them from the backup it made

[wicked valley]

and it messes up the back of the hair

nvm that was an outline

also, how do i manually make a toggle? i have a peice of clothing thats an fbx, and i wanna make it a togglable item

[limpid cargo]

toggle tutorial in youtube

many exist

[arctic ginkgo]

Create an animation for each state you want (so in this example, on and off). To do this, select your avatar, then open the animation window (window > animation > animation. I keep mine next to the project tab). Select your avatar and create an animation clip. Make sure to select the folder you want them to go in and name it appropriately for organization's sake. This will be something like "shirt off". Then you press the red record button and do the action you want the animation to do. Whatever state it's in last is the state that's recorded to the frame. So if you want to disable the mesh renderer for a shirt, press the record button and disable the mesh renderer. To create new clips, click on the drop down menu with the clip's name and select "create new clip", then repeat the process for any other animation clips you need (in this example you would need a "shirt on" clip, where the mesh renderer is enabled)

[wicked valley]

is this manual or is this needed if im using vrcf?

[arctic ginkgo]

You asked for manual, correct? This is manual

[wicked valley]

i got it

[arctic ginkgo]

That is the first step

It looks like a lot, but I'm just writing it down in detail so you know exactly what to do

[wicked valley]

i meant make a toggle myself because there wasnt one

sorry for the confusion

[dawn wharf]

awesum

[arctic ginkgo]

So you want to know how to make a toggle with vrcfury?

[wicked valley]

i figured it out

but thanks for the help!

[arctic ginkgo]

Okay, I don't know how to do that anyways

I recommend learning how to do it yourself

Helps for complex tasks, debugging, as well as just being good practice for logic skills

Imo if you learn vrcfury first, you lead yourself down a forked path and end up at a dead end where you can't make more complex stuff until you circle back and relearn the basics manually. Then once you understand how everything works, you can incorporate vrcfury into your workflow for reasons such as efficency, using a non-destructive workflow, and being able to do complex things that may require scripting at runtime (like vrcfury's global colliders, which are a PITA to set up without their script since they like to reset themselves and only work in debug mode without it)

I think it's best to avoid the headache and just learn the manual way first, then learn tools like vrcfury to improve your workflow

[rose ember]

so can someone help me my time gun dont spawn in when i toggle it its only invisible

[wicked valley]

you seem to know your shit, so i got another question

how do i make something play a sound when toggled on?

like a spawn sound

[somber sequoia]

put an AudioSource component on a gameobject, toggle that object on. or use VRC Animator Play Audio on an animation state.

(you need an AudioSource either way)

[pastel galleon]

hey so i just joined to ask a question about an avatar that i found
apparently for other people, it either looks like i'm using a hotdog avatar, or i just straight up become invisible?
here's a picture of the avatar that i'm using, is there a way to fix it?

if it helps, it says that it has poor performance on windows, and very poor on android

[somber sequoia]

If your avatar is VeryPoor, others will likely be seeing your fallback

ah yes, that's why - es muy pobre.

[wicked valley]

i deleted the entire package, any idea how to stop this happening?

[somber sequoia]

remove the asset which has vrc fury components on it

it must be something still on your avatar

[pastel galleon]

aw, that sucks

it's the only bee avatar that i liked 😭

[wicked valley]

i missed smthn, thought i got it all

[somber sequoia]

yeah - you'd need to optimize it down to something better for it to be enabled by default

[wicked valley]

so, im trying to do it when i toggle something off too, how would i do it?
like a sound to put smthn away

[somber sequoia]

it's just a matter of making your animator do whatever logic you want.

[wicked valley]

ive never messed with the animator so its new to me

[sick ice]

This isn't about avatars but i cant find a other channel to post this in. I was verfying my id, and now my vrc wont load up. anyone know why its doing this?

[somber sequoia]

#vrchat-support maybe? definitely not here.

oh, I meant #1138891887374237706

[sick ice]

kk got it thanks

[left gull]

That model is purchasable iirc so you could likely buy it and edit it to be more optimized

[pastel galleon]

i'd probably do that if i had either money or Blender experience

[left gull]

i cant really speak on the money issue but plenty of people here would be willing to help with any issues you'd run into in blender, its what these chats are for :3

theres also LOTS of blender documentation and videos out there that'd likely go over any issues you'd run into

[red egret]

Anyone know how to turn a vrm file to a fbx file

[somber sequoia]

import it into blender with the vrm plugin, export as fbx

(probably do some cleanup while there)

[red egret]

Thank you!

[muted bramble]

How do I convert my PC avatar to VR?

[somber sequoia]

that's not really a thing, the same avatar works in desktop and VR

[gentle viper]

hi was wondering why my sps sockets arent working like whenever i try going into play mode and using the lollipop it jus doesnt recognize it and goes through their body, also for some reason its like getting rid of some of the things in sps on my hierarchy whenever i do go into play mode

[arctic ginkgo]

does anyone know why my impostor might be so low resolution?

only thing i can think of is something else taking up the majority of the atlas on accident even though it's not visible

and i figured out the weird "avatar not regenerating" issue. It was regenerating, but you can't see it in-game without clearing your cache and restarting

i do have an impostor settings component on the armature..

that may be it, due to the resolution scale

i don't want to impact the resolution scale at all though, i just need the other parts of the component

i'm going to try putting it on an empty instead and setting the resolution scale to 0

[spare lantern]

so have yall ever seen and gameobject just disable its self when not in play mode?

like i hit the toggle square in the inspector and then after 3 or so seconds it turns itself off??

*an gameobject

[wicked valley]

i have my sound set up right but i cant hear anything

[unique osprey]

so i'm trying to delete some accessories but for some reason the accessories/clothes option on this avatar doesn't have a drop down menu, how do i expand it so i can delete specific accessories?

[river vale]

any idea why when i upload the quest version of an avatar after successfully uploading the pc version, the quest version causes the pc version to then fail security checks?

[somber sequoia]

seems like there's nothing under there to me

[wicked valley]

for some reason i cant see any other layers

[somber sequoia]

looks like there aren't any. are you looking at the right animation controller?

[wicked valley]

how do i change which one im looking at?

[somber sequoia]

find it in your project and click it

[old forge]

okay so uhm there's a little circle of the eye texture on the eye and i don't know why, thank you :0

[wicked valley]

so, now i have the animated layer, what do i do with the toggle?
how can i make it actually do the sound

okay, it works, but theyre overlapping each other

[nocturne tendon]

Quick question, how do you make it to where you cant move when you have a certain animation toggle on? Generic rigs.

Also how do i make it to where a togglable object is stationary

[amber pivot]

🐎 need some help, I got a pullstring thing going on and I have it set up. i need help with is how would i make the voicelines that play after the string is pulled be randomized. I have a group of voicelines but idk how to set that up

[nocturne tendon]

Like as in it sort of spawns where you stand in game and stays in that same spot until you toggle it off

[wicked valley]

like an avatar lock?

[nocturne tendon]

Whatever causes this effect, yeah

How do i do that

[dusk pulsar]

What affects the trigger on the fist gesture? What should I check for it to be based on the pressure? Like eyes closing midway through based on how much I put pressure

[wicked valley]

any idea why its cutting off my audios and why they sometimes dont play

[limpid cargo]

what is the asset?

[dire dagger]

How do I fix the text

[limpid cargo]

maybe it is bug?
check in vrchat…

[left gull]

i think thats supposed to be a shiny layer/part and is using the wrong material since it looks like theres two smaller eyes in it

[wicked valley]

yay the smart people are back

So, it plays audio now, however it randomly gets cut off and sometimes plays nothing

[left gull]

not really knowledgeable on toggle stuff but random cut-off might be due to what the exit time for the animation toggle is set to

[wicked valley]

how do i change exit time?

[somber sequoia]

click the transition, it'll be in the inspector

[somber sequoia]

That's not a transition, that's an animation state

transitions are the lines between states

[wicked valley]

there?

[somber sequoia]

yep, open up "settings" and it's in there.

[wicked valley]

alright, whats causing it to not play?

[left gull]

open up settings and try changing the exit time to 1

[wicked valley]

no its still cutting off

[left gull]

hm how long is the audio?

[wicked valley]

each one is 2-3 seconds and it cuts off randomly

theres no noticable pattern

[somber sequoia]

are you turning off the AudioSource too early? I haven't seen how you set this up.

[wicked valley]

set it up really simple, and i have everything laid out properly

then thats it just cutting out

[keen axle]

Hello Everyone, I'm Trying To Get A Generic Rig Working For My Idle Animations And Walking, Running, etc. Still, no matter what I do, I cannot achieve this. Yes, I have my animations for each. I'm very confused about this, and it's kind of out of my league of thinking, so that any help would be very nice.

[timber wharf]

@keen axle show some layers? is animator on root (avi descriptor) object?

[keen axle]

I'm using the Sample Locomotion from the sample folder as a base with a changed blendtree (I know it's useless to have a bunch of the same animation in different directions)

im pretty sure this is what your asking for

heres the rig settings

[timber wharf]

does look fine indeed. so, install av3 emu if not already, set in it a layer to debug to a base and see where it goes in playmode when you set diff speeds, may give a clue? id get rid of crouch/prone for sure

[keen axle]

well it works now

im gonna be honest i have no clue why now its working

[timber wharf]

expert showed up, it got afraid🤣

jk, unity is unity

[keen axle]

appreciate the kind help ❤️

[true hollow]

Im trying to make clothes for one of my avatars im modelling and im just wondering if i were to make a dress or something like that am i better to make a new mesh based on the faces of the avatar then try and weight paint it based of the current rig?

[timber wharf]

whats the alternative

[true hollow]

Let me rephrase my question! 🙂 is that the best approach?

[timber wharf]

uh, depends? if you can easily reuse the same geometry then sure, like making some stockings any other way is weird. if topology is way different from the main mesh, then its data transfer modifier time, then manual fixing

[unkempt bane]

Anyone been getting an issue uploading? I keep getting a authentication token error when trying to upload. I've tried Upgrading/Downgrading SDK, other addons, relaunching project, resigning in and keeps giving issue. Not consistent with project either. Sometimes reopening fixes. Other times does not.

[true hollow]

Yeah and that makes sense! 🙂 thankyou

[umbral oriole]

HI GUYS looking for some insight here im trying to rework the blod particle system on the bloody knife so that instead of blood it will stick a name or numbers onto someones avatar
so far ive gotten it to work with letters and for it to reliably hit the avatar but the main issue im having is that the letters are in a different position and rotation each time
im not super knowledgable about particles and this is my first time fiddling with them like this i can post screenshots of the settings on them so far

basicly the particle that wil collide with the body

if anyone can give some insight or advice it would really be appreciated
it fels like im taking 1 step forward and then 10 steps back everytime i make a change

[past escarp]

oh wow that's a cool effect! sorry i can't help, stuck trying to make my particles work for quest that's how behind i am lol

[limpid cargo]

particles are available for quest.

[past escarp]

yeah!, theyre just not working for me 💔 for some reason idek. im using vrchat mobile particle shaders, they arent going over the max of 200 particles, idk what im doing wrong 😭

[obsidian tangle]

I have this avatar that is just a flat png, that i want the texture to change when the player is speaking, ive looked at several tutorials and its still not working. no matter what i do its allways stuck on NotSpeaking as if the Voice peramiter is not changing with VRChats, I've used GestureManager to change it in play mode to no success

[past escarp]

probably not the answer, but have you checked to make sure you have Voice as an Int parameter in both the fx layer and vrc parameter list thing?

[obsidian tangle]

how do i check?

[past escarp]

in the animator (not animation) tab with the layers and parameters (you have Voice set for the transition tho so that looks fine),

and then the parameters you have for the avatar, should be able to find the one attached to ur avatar in the avatar descriptor

this is what mine looks like for example, you should check to see if you have one here called Voice, and that its an Int type (int or float idk what the difference is actually but however you set it in the Voice parameter in the animator parameters panel it should match that)

like so probably make it look like this (???? sorry im a newbie this is as much as i know)

[obsidian tangle]

alr ive done that

its still doing nothing

👍

[past escarp]

rats, sorry 💔

[obsidian tangle]

Its been so long since ive done this kidna thing forgot how annoying it is lol

[obsidian tangle]

dw ive probably done something wrong eariler down the line dont apologise

[past escarp]

fr like 80% of avatar making is just troubleshooting in unity i'm sure

[obsidian tangle]

Its 5AM rn and im tired, im going to bed but if anybody has any ideas while im asleep please still send them my way

[past escarp]

goood luck!

[limpid cargo]

general comment,
unity tutorials and search queries (not specific vrchat) can help

“how to () in unity” often better more than
“how to () in vrchat unity”

not to you,
but general comment

[past escarp]

oh yeah totally. ctrl+f in this server and other vrchat servers have been a great asset with other people asking the same question and others answering them!

[limpid cargo]

ah… yeah

[fast plank]

why is vrcfury changing my clothing's mesh to a different version that has "vrc fury" in its name which doesn't have blendshapes whenever i build the avatar?

[ornate stump]

Because you added Blendshape Optimizer which will delete unused and bake blendshape.

[fast plank]

i might be stupid....

thank you i probably accidentally added it while adding the blendshape links

[quiet swallow]

haiiii there's a cool Anko Uguisu model I found but it's not on vrchat, I've been having trouble making it an avatar and I've seen some folks mention that they'd like an Anko Uguisu avatar too :O

https://hub.vroid.com/en/characters/170139567366252331/models/1602921994089698315

this one!!!

I don't wanna be that guy to say "hey please somebody fix my problem without me putting effort into it" but if somebody could port this onto vrchat (AND POSSIBLY ADD GOGO LOCO THAT COULD BE COOL AND GREATLY APPRECIATED) I would love you to death

[ornate stump]

You don't want to be set still asking anyway?

[quiet swallow]

whuh?

I meant that I know it's kinda dumb or selfish to ask somebody to do something for me, but in case there's anybody who feels like helping out, I would really appreciate it :3

I've also seen a couple ppl asking in #1138520828556890214 for an Anko model so yuhhhh

[queen linden]

Heya folks. I'm facing an issue where a paired object that I'm trying to resize isn't getting fully selected. Is there a way to select all of a single object without selecting the other piece? As doing just L or C for small selections keeps missing hidden parts that end up stretching.

[junior void]

sounds like blender?

[timber wharf]

@queen linden select by materials or perhaps uv region

[queen linden]

Whoops, sorry, yes Blender

[junior void]

youre trying to size the shoes?

[queen linden]

Yup. Smaller is being stubborn and I'm unable to fully select everything. Idk why because I didn't have this issue with the other as you can see.

[junior void]

why not use xray mode to select the whole shoe, one at a time (have to remember what scale factor you used and thats it)

[queen linden]

... 😞 I didn't think about it because I tend to put it out of my mind. But it would help.

[junior void]

xD

[limpid cargo]

maybe vrc traders discord server…

[queen linden]

Welp. That worked. Thank you lmao

[junior void]

no problem :)

[random dagger]

idk if this is the right place to ask ibut i found this avatar that has a fps counter and xyz position display in game. how would i add something like that to my avatar?

[spark walrus]

would someone be able to assist me with learning how to create my first avatar

[junior void]

i hope you know thats like asking if someone can teach you how to build a car

[spark walrus]

i have a model

i just wanna learn how to customise it or port it]

[ornate stump]

Customization is a very broad topic, you will have to be more specific of which part you want to customize.

[reef kraken]

what am i suppose to do with eyelensmap for the rex to make it quest compatible? if i switch it to anything thats not standard specular setup it goes gray and you cant see the eyes at all

[junior void]

you can use toon standard and set culling to front

you might have to update your sdk if you dont see backface options on toon standard

[reef kraken]

i got that fixed by setting it to skybox by my friend

but any tip of finding the non supported materials a lot quicker

there are a few things that i cant find anywhere

[left gull]

make sure to check under each meshes material dropdown if you're still getting the error it might be a material on a toggle's item that's not part of the original mesh (like something you've added through VRCFury or MA)

[reef kraken]

it was FAR under another objects stuff

but now i am (reloading unity atm) getting vrchat/mobile/skybox isnt compatible only use shaders under vrchat/mobile :/

[ornate stump]

The shader is meant for using in world project, as well as some other shader it will report the same error.

[reef kraken]

Ah thank you

Any idea in how to lower download size without removing most of the things?

[plucky mantle]

How can I adjust my finger colliders? I can't adjust their position manually.

[plucky mantle]

The bones are in the right spot and i've used this avatar for a while. it just makes things hard to grab.

Can I possibly define custom finger colliders as a workaround?

[left gull]

try lowering some of your textures resolutions maybe? it might get rid of a big chunk of the size if you're using alot of them

also removing unused blendshapes

[reef kraken]

Isn't that a blender thing tho?

[left gull]

VRCFury has a script that removes unused blendshapes on upload iirc but if you dont plan on ever using them should just be done in blender yeah

[gilded turret]

Does anyone know how to fix this pixelization crap? It slike the final step of my edit and I'm gunna scream.

[rose ember]

can someone help me, so basicly when i try to toggle a pcvr smart gun it wont appear or dont show

[junior void]

I just had this today. Use blender 4. anything 4.1 and above does this

[tiny spire]

Anyone know why when Re-importing FBX with newly added clothes they don't get added to the avatar's hierarchy? They are correctly in the FBX file but just don't appear on the scene

I'd love to know if theres a fix without having to re-configure the FBX into the unity scene and copy over everything

[teal laurel]

You'll have to merge them with the main mesh of the avatar in blender

Let me find a video that shows this, one moment please

https://youtu.be/7ZbilpdL63I?t=5m10s

[junior void]

no?

[teal laurel]

Huh, how else are you going to merge the meshes

[junior void]

you can export multiple objects from blender at once

no need to merge the meshes

[tiny spire]

My understanding is, merging the meshes is better for performance, but not necessary for it to be functional in unity

[junior void]

^

[teal laurel]

"but just don't appear on scene"
Uhh wait-

[tiny spire]

My issue mainly stems from, them just not actually showing up without having to completely reconfigure the avatar again in unity

[junior void]

define "reconfigure"

setting up a new fbx?

[tiny spire]

This is the existing FBX in scene after creating the project and opening the scene file

[junior void]

because then you may have unpacked your avatar which breaks the reference to the original

[teal laurel]

maybe they are missing materials?
So they show up but are invisible?

[tiny spire]

When re-importing the edited FBX with more objects on it

they don't actually go onto the avatar in the scene, despite now being in the FBX

and the solution i've used to combat this in the past, is to then use pumkins tool to copy over 95% of the old avatar and tidy up after the fact with the new FBX dragged into the scene

[junior void]

note that your armature is now named different which will cause unity to not be able to verify your rig anymore and youll have to redo the rig setup in import settings

[tiny spire]

If this fixes it, i will scream into a pillow

[junior void]

i usually make a backup copy of my avi in blender, so this naming issue is well known to me as it keeps happening

also check if you have any modifiers on the missing clothes

and double check if you export with "selected only" from blender that the objects are within your selection

also something i keep doing

[tiny spire]

yeah, made sure those were not selected. I've encountered that in the past too

Didn't solve the issue sadly

[junior void]

did you unpack your avatar?

[tiny spire]

You mean doing this?

[junior void]

yes

the unpack or unpack completely

either with the prefab or the fbx itself

[tiny spire]

no change : S

[junior void]

i hope you did not try to unpack

my point being was to not do that

not to try it

[tiny spire]

no, unpacking only will cause issues lol

[junior void]

it really sounds like your prefab is no longer referencing the fbx though

updating the fbx has always worked for me

[still shuttle]

Looks like your avatar is already unpacked. Based off this screenshot

[tiny spire]

As far as I can tell its still packed

[tiny spire]

Yeah, I have no idea why its not. Other projects have worked completely fine when importing in changes to the FBX

[still shuttle]

With this screenshot you can see the one you are right clicking on is gray, which usually means it was unpacked

Have you tried readding the fbx to the hierarchy to see if it updates?

If not, is it possible you imported the fbx into the wrong unity project? That would be my guess as to why it wouldn't be updating.

You could always save the updated fbx in a new folder(i usally save it to my downloads) and drag and drop it into the unity package and then set up the avatar again. It's annoying but really what else is there to do if importing over the fbx doesn't work lol

[tiny spire]

[tiny spire]

im trying a new project, but before opening scene having new FBX in place

it might have to do with how the scene is setup

because it creates 4 different copies of the avatar, with different preset options

[gusty meteor]

Hey 👋
I'm trying to build and test an avatar for Android but when I click on the Build & Test button I get this error :
Unable to test avatar: ApplicationName='adb', CommandLine='devices -l', CurrentDirectory='', Native error= The specified file could not be found.
I really don't know what could be the case. I have checked and I have Android Build Support Installed.

[lone flax]

Are there any plugins to help drastically decrees the storage of my avatar? I'm pretty sure mines like 400mb

[timber wharf]

@gusty meteor you dont normally test android builds, just build and upload normally.

android test builds require cable to headset, adb driver and whatnot, very niche stuff

[gusty meteor]

Oh okay I'll try then thanks

So I can't really test if my avatar works well on Quest if i'm a PCVR user ?

[junior void]

you could use gesture manager in unity?

[timber wharf]

ye. or android phone. you cannot run android build without android device

[gusty meteor]

Or should I set android in unity to see the review alerts and then switch it back to windows to build and test ? But will everything work like the android shaders ?

[timber wharf]

shaders will behave very close if you upload it to pc

[gusty meteor]

I would prefer testing it in game, I found some inconsistencies between the 2 in the past and it's easier to test everything like the fingers and all that.

Okay then I'll try this !

[somber sequoia]

I've done this by running an android device with an alt account

[gusty meteor]

Well I don't have Vrchat downloaded on my Quest and it seems like testing it on a windows build works well.

I have one new issue though.
Parts of my hair behave weirdly. It's like it's not attached to the rest of the body properly.
I don't have any bones in the hair so it might be a blender issue. But I'm a newbie on blender so I might have done something wrong when trying to optimize my avatar for android.

[dire dagger]

Anyone know how to fix this thing with the ears? In play mode the ears float above the head but when I turn it off their back on the avatar normally

[grave snow]

Hello friends! I'm having a challenging time trying to upload my first avatar to vrchat. I'm trying to do it using Steam VRchat 2d/VCC (just opens the avatar unity proj :/) Not seeing any actual option to upload/import/insert however you term it to change my default robot avatar into the model I downloaded. The package contains sdks and vrm files and various. Please advise. The web site instructions have not helped, I benefit from very simple, clear, step-by-step instructions without descriptors or extra information like how the web site presents the topic. I have all of the programs - unity, vrchat, vcc, the avatar package itself, etc. All I need to know is have to get that avatar into vrchat to replace the default robot. Thank you in advance! I am a first time vr user, so please be patient with me 'X3

[somber sequoia]

what are you trying to do with steam?

[grave snow]

*Also, I'm trying my best and have tried on my own for quite some time to no avail. A bit embarrassed I couldn't figure it out! Wish there was a big UPLOAD button! haha.

I'm in Steam VRchat, I just want to use and enjoy it with the avatar of my choosing instead of the funny default robot avatar

[somber sequoia]

You don't need to do anything with steam or vrchat itself to do this.
Check this out: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bSwMz4WcajQ

[grave snow]

I have a vr headset and plan to use it with that after I upload the avatar I want

[grave snow]

Thank you I will look at this right now.

[somber sequoia]

feel free to ask questions here if you get stuck!

[grave snow]

Thank you so much! This problem happened to me last time I had enough free time to try to tackle this issue, apparently still in my way after countless actual hours of running this program. Starting to think something is wrong in my case:

[somber sequoia]

?upload

[flat musk]

You must obtain at least "New User" Trust Rank in our Trust and Safety system in order to upload content. You can get this by just spending a few hours in VRChat, hop some worlds, and make some friends. Give it some time and you'll be able to upload content in no time.

As an aside, you must have a VRChat account to upload content. That means you can't use a Steam account, Oculus account, or Viveport account to upload content like worlds or avatars.

Source: https://docs.vrchat.com/docs/frequently-asked-questions

[somber sequoia]

^^^^

[grave snow]

I have the account, I am forced to go around for hours asd a robot? I don't have that much free time, I just want to use my chosen avatar while I am actually playing this (?)

Do you have to 'make friends'? What if I am not trusting of people I do not know, will I never be able to use my avatar model I downloaded?

[somber sequoia]

well you can switch to any public avatar you find.

you could also purchase a month of VRC+

[grave snow]

How can I find those?

If I bought that I wouldn't have time to use it

[somber sequoia]

there's some in the default home world, or look at the worlds in the "avatar worlds" category

[grave snow]

This is so restrictive, I've already spent my time trying to get this done, each time it's the same story of my entire wasted morning\

So the free/public avatars are inside the avatar worlds, and you can go in there and switch to being them?

Thanks for trying to help meKazin, it's been a world of frustration so far instead of the world of fun it seemed to be before I embarked on this

[somber sequoia]

yep, you can switch in-game to any public avatar

[grave snow]

Ok, is there a world you know of that has animal-ey public avatars I could switch to? My time now is extremely short. Thanks again.

My free time is over. lol. Thanks for all the restrictions vrchat.

[somber sequoia]

sorry, I've got no idea, I'd say to just look in the avatar worlds category in the "worlds" menu in-game

[grave snow]

ok, thanks.

[quaint shell]

Does anyone know how i can change my standard avatar expressions? could need some help with that :I

[dim hazel]

Is there anyone that can help me make my VR character?

for the meta quest 3

[somber sequoia]

Sure, someone here. Ask specific questions if you can.

[somber sequoia]

Yes, some here know - can you be more specific?

[quaint shell]

i want it like if i dont hold my controllers my eyes are open

[somber sequoia]

Find the gesture layer in your FX animator, find the transition that matches the gesture you're doing, and disable it.

[limpid cargo]

wow, your avatar so cute !
i think your ear has not weight/attachment on head maybe?

[quartz bone]

Does anyone know what the transition durations and exit times are for the stock visemes?

I'm doing parameter-based lipsync and I want it to match the built-in animations

[night ember]

pretty sure its a blendtree

[quartz bone]

do you know what values VRC uses?

[night ember]

🤷‍♂️

I mean its an int parameter for visemes and a float for voice volume

[quartz bone]

any way I can take a look at it, or is that inside of VRC itself?

[arctic ginkgo]

like diven said, i'm pretty sure it's a blendtree, but gogo loco has a good approximation of it you can use

also it uses something different from the viseme parameters that we typically use.. and afaik there's no documentation on it

it uses the viseme parameter value, but it goes WAY above the 14 that you get when you have lip sync set to "viseme parameter only"

so my best guess is these other values represent halfway points or something?

[onyx axle]

In my SDK, it wont allow me to switch to Andriod, Why?

[balmy barn]

you have android support installed ?, check build settings

[onyx axle]

Where do i check that?

Found it

[spare lantern]

Hey. my avatar project in unity keeps toggling gameobjects off/on by itself after i turm them on/off. mindyou, im not in playmode.

oh.

wrong file type

[sharp oasis]

Does anyone know what has happened with this project?

[spare lantern]

heres the proper vid of trhe issue

[quasi crypt]

im having problems with my avatar a thing called look at me basically where my eye move on there own but on this nanachi model it works in unity there are bones on the eyes but in game it doesnt work how do i fix it i dont know if its an issue with vr chat orjust unity

[balmy barn]

back to blender and straighten those eyebones so they point up

should never need a value for looking straight

[azure epoch]

You guys how do I make an avatar?

[true flower]

OK, Complicated question (at least for me): I think I start the context by mentioning that the avatar armature and the player armature in-game appear to be two different things. I have an older bunny, and she's strangely badly proportioned for me as the player-- the arms are too short, the legs don't reach the floor, the head pitches weird... this leads me to think the head's axis, as far as VRChat is concerned, is placed wrong (too far forward).

The question is, is that axis the View Position? If I change that, will the head pivot differently and the body's scale behave more appropriately? I've been fooling with it for a total of three days and I need to know if I'm barking up the right tree.

[somber sequoia]

from scratch? from an existing model?

[azure epoch]

From scratch

[somber sequoia]

start by making a model

[spare lantern]

so im guessin noone know bout whats goin on for my issue?

[arctic ginkgo]

yes. There isn't really a "player armature", but player tracking points, This all depends on how many trackers you have of course, as well as your height (which you can manually input). Height mode matches the avatar's height to your height, while arm span mode matches the arm span to your height. On almost all people (unless you have a disability that changes this) your height and arm span should match, but with avatars, they usually don't. something that can make a huge difference in how the avatar behaves is the ratio between the avatar height and the shoulder-viewpoint distance. If your avatar's shoulders are really far from your head, your arms will feel shorter. Also, your avatar's head rotates at the center of the head bone, but that head bone pivots around your viewpoint (your headset) so that the viewpoint is never detached from your eyes. This means though, to avoid the head being detached from the body as well, that the whole body may lift off of the ground if needed to acommodate for the height. This tends to happen to avatars with 'chibi' proportions, so very large heads and/or very small bodies. If you have a large head on your avatar, my best advice is to move the viewpoint more towards the head bone, so further down and inward. But if your avatar is relatively human-proportioned, I would try moving the viewpoint inwards as well. Additionally, try switching the avatar measurement between height and arm span. Keep in mind this will change how the avatar and environment appear to be scaled at any given avatar height. For example, if the avatar is taller than the length of its arm span, setting the measurement to "height" will make everything feel smaller than if you set the measurement to "armspan" because it treats the avatar as if it is taller in regards to your playspace and ipd (relative to VR space, not irl)

If you have 3pt tracking (headset + 2 controllers) those are your 3 tracking points. Having camera tracking or physical FBT trackers will increase the ratio between how much of your body is controlled by you vs IK + animation

[true flower]

Bless you-- this is the kind of information I constantly need but trying to Google it gets me Arrow Collar shirt patterns or something. I am literally copy/pasting this and printing it out so I can pin it next to the monitor while I work. Thank You. 🫂

[sharp oasis]

Any input for this would be appreciated as at the moment it is looking like I will just need to nuke the project

[arctic ginkgo]

it says in the error that you have a corrupted file (or one that is from a newer unity version)

it also give you the filepath

so I would remove that file

look for any similar errors

usually the important ones are towards the top

you can also try deleting the "library" folder from your project

then when you reopen it, unity will restore the folder

it will take a little longer than usual, as it has to create the files again, but you shouldn't lose anything from your project

in fact - if you are running out of storage space on your computer you can delete the library folders from unity projects that you don't open frequently

[sharp oasis]

That's nice to know as I have tons of projects haha

[arctic ginkgo]

ofc at the cost of longer loading times when you do open the project. Which is why you should only do this if you don't open it frequently

[dusk pulsar]

Does anyone else have a problem with gogo loco where the flight won't activate, and sometimes it takes a while for it to actually be enabled? Sometimes it's instant, other times - need to wait. seems the problem to be with personal mirror

[arctic ginkgo]

you need to have a mirror enabled

not something gogo loco can fix, and is noted anywhere you can get gogo loco from iirc

[somber sequoia]

I keep meaning to look at that issue - I don't have that with my own flight system (modeled off an older gogo loco version)

[arctic ginkgo]

i believe it has to do with stations

[somber sequoia]

right, the flight collider (mine and theirs) use stations

oh - nope, that's right, I did not use a station

I guess that's the hack to make quest work

[umbral pollen]

I’m having a weird issue with an avatar I’m making, the avatar itself is just a static object that I can put down using the vrc world constraints. It works but any time I put it down and pick it up I have to reset the avatar, otherwise when I pick it up people won’t be able to see me put it down again

Too clarify, it works perfectly fine on my end

[arctic ginkgo]

likely you are grabbing it too fast and there is desync with the timing of the parameters needed to transition (gesture and contact parameters). I would suggest using the "IsLocal" parameter to fork the animation states and use different logic for each side. The local side remains the same, but adds parameter drivers to each state which change the value of a parameter. If you only have 2 states, use a bool, but if you have more, use an Int. Then on the remote side only transition with the parameter that is written to by the parameter drivers. Then make sure this parameter is on the synced parameter list. This will cause some slight delay for remote users, but it should ensure that its state (hand vs world) won't desync

[spare lantern]

ok hold up an anyonme see my post?

[umbral pollen]

that is a very confusing paragraph but i will attempt to decipher it

[somber sequoia]

link it?

[spare lantern]

this one

[somber sequoia]

ah, I did, but haven't seen that issue.

[spare lantern]

and heres the vid

[spare lantern]

ah oki at least i know it was seen.

i tried using a back up of my project but its still happening so im bankin it on unity being a trashy program agagin

[umbral pollen]

im not extremely versed in animation states and all that, can you dumb this down a smidge?

i basically just have an on and off switch for my animations

so placed and not placed

[umbral pollen]

Oh wait, it’s not a grabbable toggle. The avatar is literally an object that when toggled gets world constrained then disappears and gets picked up when not on. It’s not a hand vs world thing. Maybe that doesn’t make a difference but I wanted to clarify

[arctic ginkgo]

honestly not sure then, it shouldn't be desynced. do they just see it stuck in your hand?

[umbral pollen]

It’s not on my hand, it gets placed in the world. It works the first time I place it but when I activate the toggle to make it disappear I have to reset the avatar to place it again, otherwise they won’t see it get placed again

I hope that makes sense

I’ll make a video in a minute to demonstrate

[arctic ginkgo]

i thought you were saying that it's on your hand and the toggle places it down in the world

how are you making it "disappear"?

[umbral pollen]

toggle

[arctic ginkgo]

no how are you changing it that's making it disappear

[umbral pollen]

its just a toggle that turns the object on and off

on is visible and with the constraint on and off is invisible with the constraint off

[arctic ginkgo]

alright, so that will also disable the mesh renderer, which can sometimes cause issues. Try scaling it down to 0 instead and see if that helps

[umbral pollen]

that messes with the mesh renderer even if im disabling the game object?

[arctic ginkgo]

well if the object is disabled, the mesh renderer is disabled

every child object is disabled as well

[umbral pollen]

ok, ive just never had this issue when doing basic item toggles

ive had this happen when specifically touching the mesh renderer but not when disabling the whole game object

I’ll try it with the scale and see if that helps, thank you

[peak shuttle]

ImportFBX Warnings:
Mesh 'Body' has 288 (out of 29513) vertices with no weight and bone assigned (they will be assigned to bone #0 with weight 1). The list of vertices: 21882, 21883, 21884, 21885, 21886, 21887, 21888, 21889, 21890, 21891 and so on...

UnityEngine.GUIUtility:ProcessEvent (int,intptr,bool&)

When I turn legacy normals on I get a different error saying that all of my blendshapes dont have smoothing groups

and the normals are still messeed up

how it looks in blender:

[somber sequoia]

I do import, without legacy, but I export with "Smoothing" set to "Face"

but the vertices without weight, you'll probably get that either way

[peak shuttle]

ill try that again

I only get the without weight warnign when I turn off legacy

[somber sequoia]

huh

[peak shuttle]

weird right?

[somber sequoia]

yeah I wouldn't have expected that

[peak shuttle]

I usually use a unity fbx exporter so I dont rememvber what the settings are. are these right?

[night ingot]

heys guys, is it possible to use blend shapes as eye look? if so how

[somber sequoia]

I can't think of how

[somber sequoia]

I'd do FBX All there, not custom scale.

but you may need that for your avatar.

[peak shuttle]

is the forward and up orrect

[somber sequoia]

If you changed it from the default... don't.

[peak shuttle]

unity uses y up

[somber sequoia]

(I'd have to open blender and check)

yes, it does

[peak shuttle]

im going crazy lmao

[somber sequoia]

just open the FBX export dialog, set "apply scalings", turn off the leafbones checkbox under Armature, and if you're trying what I suggested, set "smoothing" to "face" under "Geometry". the rest of the defaults are fine.

(I save this as an operator preset)

[peak shuttle]

its stuck importing

there it goes

the no weirght error is still there

and so are the normal issues

[somber sequoia]

well if those vertices have no weight then that seems like a valid warning.

[peak shuttle]

I don't get the error normally

when on legacy

so I dont know

because the weights are perfectly fine with legacy on

[somber sequoia]

I suspect they aren't but it somehow isn't warning you in that case

[peak shuttle]

looking into it, it is a unity issue\

https://discussions.unity.com/t/unity-blend-shape-normals-broken/911763

[winter adder]

i dont mean to impead on any conversation going on right now but im having issues trying to figure out how to upload this Linla avi i got from booth. Ive never uploaded an avatar or used unity before and i genuinely have no idea what im doing. If anyone has any time to maybe help/walk me through it that would be lovely

[somber sequoia]

ah yes, this.

[timber wharf]

@winter adder uh wouldve been more usefull to show some screenshots of where are you got stuck.

[supple needle]

Is there a quest compatible shader that has hue shift, need to know if I’m gonna have texture issues

[timber wharf]

wasnt hue shift implemented in toon lite?

[supple needle]

I don’t believe there’s hue shift in toon lit

Or is there ??? I never noticed if there is

[somber sequoia]

toon lit != toon lite

[old skiff]

question for anyone, is there a discord specifically tailored to learning how to make VRC avatars? I've been working through the process but it would be much easier to be able to ask questions twoard someone who knows what they're doing

[somber sequoia]

... this one?

[old skiff]

I just assumed this was the general VRC discord and that there existed a community made one specifically for that purpose

and that this one was for people with more advanced problems than "how do I make complex shapes in blender" or "how do I map materials to avatars in unity"

[desert elk]

materials are basic so you're contradicting yourself heh I misread

[somber sequoia]

I think it covers everything 🙂

[desert elk]

yup

if people know how to solve a problem, they'll help

[supple needle]

There’s a vrc unity school or something

Search it and there’s a discord

I think it’s “pups unity school”

[old skiff]

ill search for it, thanks!

any suggestions for blender or?

[supple needle]

YouTube

[old skiff]

ig thats fair

[desert elk]

yup

lots of tutorials

[supple needle]

With blender questions outside of YouTube I usually ask in Nikkie.png’s server since she’s active in the help channel often.

[somber sequoia]

here or maybe the actual blender discord. Which I'm in but I seem to not pay any attention to.

[supple needle]

I forgot blender even had a discord

[desert elk]

I didn't even know they had one xd

[old skiff]

thank yall for the help!

[queen linden]

Heya folks, I'm currently dealing with an issue where an object isn't connected properly to the model? I assume it's a bone issue?

[somber sequoia]

which object in here?

[queen linden]

The metal armbands/armwraps. On the right arm the chains are bending or outright disconnected.

[somber sequoia]

can't quite tell but do they have an armature modifier and are they weight painted?

note also that modeled chains are going to be a lot of polys

[willow wren]

mine is stuck on building avatar

can anyone help?

[mental pawn]

for some reason my avatar isnt t-posing

its all right on the humanoid settings

[feral viper]

Check if it has an animation

[stray trench]

how would i allow a mesh to toggle between several different textures? with a radial menu

[mental pawn]

found this at the avatar game object

i somehow managed to accidentally remove the entire character's controller

[queen linden]

It has all that, yes.

[somber sequoia]

so what do you mean by "not connected properly"?

[mental pawn]

nope, it doesnt

[queen linden]

Do you not see how the chains are stretching/bending in the first screenshot? And one is completely disconnected? That's while in pose mode.

[willow wren]

been stuck for about an hour

[peak basalt]

for some reason when i try to set the view its just gone anyone know how to fix it?

[somber sequoia]

Without knowing what you intend, it's hard to know what is correct or incorrect behavior.
Now that you've pointed it out, that looks like weight painting issues

[willow wren]

i need help

[somber sequoia]

literally nothing we can tell from just this image. Any errors in the console?

[peak basalt]

Try closing unity and opening it again

Usually works for me

[mental pawn]

any help?

[willow wren]

no errors

[somber sequoia]

there's a way to enforce t-pose in the rig setup, or pumkin's tools has a thing too

[mental pawn]

t-pose is enforced on humanoid settings

[somber sequoia]

For the future, don't clip the top right where it shows the number of errors, it'll help to confirm you're showing everything useful.
Not that there's anything useful in there 😦

[willow wren]

1 error

[mental pawn]

its a editor only thing that idk how to fix

[somber sequoia]

That's a side-effect error, not the root cause

[willow wren]

should i be using cloud flare?

[somber sequoia]

I don't know what you mean there, but there's a thing in that to actually force a non-t-posing avatar into t-pose

[willow wren]

the vpn?

[mental pawn]

and also, does the animator from the game object has to have a controller

[mental pawn]

it was t posing before

[somber sequoia]

only if you're working on animations

[mental pawn]

but now its no longer to posing

and i even removed the animation i had

[somber sequoia]

Yes - I'm trying to tell you a way to fix that

[mental pawn]

okay

[willow wren]

could we vc and i share my screen?

[somber sequoia]

no

[willow wren]

ig im not uploading any avatars then

[somber sequoia]

oh don't put that on me

[willow wren]

well i cant figure this out

i have 0 errors and its all optimized

[stray trench]

can anyone tell me what this would be called? so i can watch a video on it

[mental pawn]

can you? please

i personally think i messed up my avatar tbh

[somber sequoia]

I did twice though. #avatar-help message

[mental pawn]

its already enforced

idk its really weird

[somber sequoia]

... I don't know what that means

it's clearly not t-posing

[mental pawn]

i enforced it from the rig setup and it didnt work

[somber sequoia]

Okay then try the other thing I suggested

[mental pawn]

since for the rig setup its already enforced

something is messing it up but idk what

[somber sequoia]

there is no such thing as "already enfoced" - that's not a thing that sticks, it just does it once.

It looks like you were making an animation and didn't reset the pose after, and now it's stuck

(it's a common issue)

[mental pawn]

yeah i think thats it

[storm jewel]

im trying to use eye look for the first time, whenever i try and do it how the tutorial shows the eyes go back in the head whenever rotated in the eyelook menu, but whenever i rotate them normally they work fine. is there a fix? am i doing eyelook wrong?

[somber sequoia]

are the bones perfectly vertical and with 0 bone roll?

[storm jewel]

im pretty sure

[somber sequoia]

can't tell from there

[storm jewel]

whenever i rotate them normally theyre fine

im unsure what to show im sorry

im new to this

[somber sequoia]

you can't see what I'm asking about in Unity, unfortunately

[storm jewel]

hm

well what could be other fixes?

[somber sequoia]

its hard to say what it's doing without knowing what the bone looks like

maybe someone else has an idea.

[stray trench]

this belt and necklace look very cool compared to everything else, everything here is poiyomi which i never use, would this be due to lighting? or is it the cubemap?

[stray trench]

i dont see anything in poiyomi's decal section mentioning animation?

[wanton cedar]

Probably the cubemap

[supple needle]

Tried out toon standard for hue shift, works pretty well. I’m wanting to know if there’s a way to make the hue lighter because I dislike how deep of a green it is. I want to make it a lighter green.

I also cannot select “detailed hue shift” as it is greyed out

[supple needle]

Wait so is toon standard not quest compatible-

qwq

[ornate stump]

It is quest compatible.

[supple needle]

My questtools are telling me it isn’t. But then again I used an outdated version so that could be the case

[steep forge]

hello could anyone help me out optimizing my avatar I've done what I can but cant seem to make it into an acceptable standard I can upload it but don't wanna be the reason for someones lagg

[storm jewel]

i keep getting this error whenever i try uploading my avatar, the avatar is an fbx. heres what my console, inspector, and hierarchy look like

[ornate stump]

It's outdated and it's list of shader didn't match with the current sdk.

[ornate stump]

Try using other image for thumbnail or use scene screenshot.

[storm jewel]

it worked, but id like that screenshot. is there any way to make it so i can use the screenshot?

[ornate stump]

The "Capture in Scene" button.

[storm jewel]

oh okay thank you

[queen linden]

Does anyone know how to work with clothes in Blender? I'm currently dealing with new issues. I've been working with a friend on my model and I've been following the steps for connecting clothing and weight painting. Some clothing fbx didn't have vertex groups for some reason so I added them myself, applied transforms and transferred weights but nothing is working. Specifically, they aren't moving in pose mode. Object data is on my body armature too.

[night ember]

you have the armature modifier?

[storm jewel]

it says this now since i switched it to quest, it worked for pc tho, any ideas?

[night ember]

standard isnt a vrchat mobile shader

[wanton cedar]

Does anyone know free scripts that blow the model up if it gets ripped? i think gonsos is the paid one, but his is all i know of

[night ember]

why are you wanting to ruin your model and make it painful to work with

[storm jewel]

ive used standard on android before though

[night ember]

no you havent

[wanton cedar]

if someone rips it, i want it to ruin it for them

[night ember]

theres unity's standard shader and vrchat's standard lite

[wanton cedar]

I did not just spend 5+ months working on something only for it to get ripped so easily

[night ember]

but that doesnt actually prevent ripping

[ornate stump]

You probably confused with Standard Lite.

[night ember]

it only takes a couple minutes to find the animation that fixes it

[wanton cedar]

you arent getting my point

[night ember]

if someone wanted to rip your avatar they are going to do it

[wanton cedar]

i know ive seen one out there that rips the meshes apart

[night ember]

you shouldnt need to ruin your avatar over something as trivial as ripping

[night ember]

which then has the key that fixes it already on the avatar cause thats how avatars work

[wanton cedar]

lame

[night ember]

its not possible to prevent ripping

[wanton cedar]

i know its not

[night ember]

nor should you even care

[wanton cedar]

but its better to make it a little annoying to put the model back together

how can i not care when i made this from scratch

[night ember]

you are publicly uploading it to a platform so everyone can see it when you use it in game

[steep forge]

what's even the point of this arguing?

[wanton cedar]

its arguing?

[night ember]

if someone is desperate enough to want to rip your random avatar then there is no way to stop them

[steep forge]

dude wants to put the thing on his avatar to make it a bit more annyoing let him

[teal laurel]

There is some stuff like Kanna protecc i think it is called but people eho don't have your avi enabled, you will be invisible to.
Plus, people will still see your quest avatar.

The trade ofs are meh

[wanton cedar]

I will go look at that, thank you

[night ember]

with any form of "anti rip" you are causing more issues than solving

one being you are forcing the other person to fully show your avatar if they have some stuff hidden

[wanton cedar]

[teal laurel]

Let them do it. Its their decision. If they want that then sure. We told them what cons it has

🤷‍♂️

[wanton cedar]

idk why you're so against it, but you do you

[tall dock]

In unity it says my foot isn't my first bone in the leg and causes problem with shin rotations, how does that work and is there a fix? The foot already is the only bone I don't know why it says that

[ivory jackal]

I cant figure out why the feet hover above the ground when walking. when standing, the feet are where they're supposed to be (additional info, im using the 'ChilloutVR / VRChat Real Digitigrade Legs Tutorial 2.6' legs so that might have something to do with it, idk)

[ornate stump]

This also includes lower leg bone to be the first child in upper leg bone.

[tall dock]

They are also put correctly

Lower leg is the child of Upper leg but my upper leg is divided in two, normal and twist bone

[ornate stump]

First child bone means it has to be at the top of the list among its sibling. Can you screenshot to confirm?

[tall dock]

In hierarchy of blender, i'll get a ss wait

[ornate stump]

Bone order in blender may not be preserved into unity.

[tall dock]

Really?

[ornate stump]

In which I asked you to screenshot the hierarchy in unity.

[tall dock]

Going right away

[somber sequoia]

I tend to name my non-humanoid bones (twist bones, shaping bones, etc.) starting with a tilde ~ to avoid that

so ~twist_knee_L in this case.

[tall dock]

They're in order

[ornate stump]

That should be correct. Can you screenshot what it actually said on the warning?

[somber sequoia]

oh

[tall dock]

maybe re-importing from blender could help?

[somber sequoia]

I see the order is funny here

What's the hierarchy order here? it should be hips -> upper leg -> lower leg -> foot

[ornate stump]

There should be no problem here.

[tall dock]

That's it

[somber sequoia]

is it?

[tall dock]

i'll try reimporting

and closing the unity after

maybe that can help

imma do the renaming on the bones like kazin said

and do that

[somber sequoia]

right leg -> thigh and knee ?

[tall dock]

ye

[somber sequoia]

why are those at the same level? or am I misreading this somehow?

[tall dock]

cause thigh bones seem to be physbone capable

that's the upper leg

[somber sequoia]

which is the actual humanoid bone that's IK-controlled?

[tall dock]

bones going outward it's the thigh bones

[somber sequoia]

so Left Leg -> Knee -> foot is upper leg -> lower leg -> foot?

is that how you have it in the rig setup?

[tall dock]

huh

[somber sequoia]

right.

[tall dock]

got confused

[tall dock]

oh i see yes

left leg

[somber sequoia]

pro tip: name these things clearly so it's not confusing 🙂

[tall dock]

is upper leg l

[tall dock]

i'm sorry

[somber sequoia]

it's your model, doesn't matter to me 🙂

[tall dock]

qwq

[somber sequoia]

I've done this wrong a few times too, so that's why I'm saying it

[tall dock]

Imma rename them then

left and right leg were the default names there were on the hips

[tall dock]

Also, anyone have a good tutorial or guide on how to weight paint from 0? I definetly need some guidance and probably will try to learn from the start

[west cipher]

best way to lower an avatars uncompressed size for quest?

[ornate stump]

Lower texture size.

[plucky mantle]

Anybody got help for this?

[somber sequoia]

that's weird that they aren't already right

[plucky mantle]

Yup

[honest coral]

Can someone help? I can't figure out why some of my facial expressions in game work but a few of them don't? Yet in unity everything is setup correctly and work fine? 🤔

[lunar wraith]

Does anyone know how to pose hands

Like is there a more convenient way

[dawn wharf]

Blender or Unity?

[lunar wraith]

unity. trying to make new hand gestures but it's a nightmare

[dawn wharf]

Are you using VRCFury?

[lunar wraith]

yes

[somber sequoia]

ugh, that's annoying.

[dawn wharf]

Vrcfury is the easiest way I've found it to work personally, I don't know any other methods to the madness!

[lunar wraith]

does it make posing them easier or what

[dawn wharf]

https://youtu.be/rNpJZj7ow14?si=U59cZ6BcZ9EZeMgs

It sets up the gesture itself

[lunar wraith]

I'm not trying to add face gestures I'm trying to change the hands themselves

[dawn wharf]

you can do it as well without adding blendshapes

maybe I am misunderstanding what you are saying >,<

Original hand gestures are hard though, I have no idea how to make that easier @.@

You could make shapekeys within blender rather than creating them within Unity

It will be difficult regardless

[flat wraith]

Hi! im having a issue with blender, when i import this model it gives me this error code and theres no shape keys but on mmd there is. Does anyone know how to fix (i also dont know how to read what its trying to tell me so other issue as well)

[distant kestrel]

I'm having an issue where my assets isn't being saved in between calibrating or changing avis even tho its checked as saved in the params. Does anyone know where I could begin to look to fix my issue?

[gentle iris]

issues that refuse to be fixed

did the rigging right so its wrong

avatar isnt too short

it claims my avatar is below the floor which is very wrong, my avatar is not in the floor

[balmy barn]

origin not at feet/bottom you get that error (set it in blender) / spawn a cube in unity compare size to your avatar (cube=1x1x1m) some particle setup add material slots

[strange field]

Hey so when people have my avatar off, they see me in a completely different spot than my hitbox, but when they show me it fixes

how can I fix this?

[placid mica]

Just a general question. If your working on a model in blender and you take it to unity but have to take it BACK to blender, is there a way to just replace the old Unity FBX with the new one without having to re-make everything again in unity?

Like phys bones and whatnot

[balmy barn]

import fbx back to blender, change stuff, overwrite one in unity after -do not do this if you have a unpacked avatar- , if you change bones too much youd need to reset the scale (set generic and back to humanoid) or unity will complain they changed too much

[fair mirage]

is vrc having server issues rn or is my sdk broken

trying to build and publish is taking forever and then it fails before even getting to the building

[spark walrus]

Are there any problems that the SDK highlights in your avatar/world?

[fair mirage]

no, ive uploaded this avatar many times before and i only made a small change to an animation (literally just changed a finger position) since last time i uploaded

[spark walrus]

If your SDK is not up to date, I recommend updating it in the creator companion.

or just resetting Unity and computer

[fair mirage]

i did restart unity and i only jsut started my computer lol, could try again but i think it might just be a weird connection issue, because manage packages in the creator companion also gets stuck loading

[spark walrus]

Sometimes it's best to allow your computer to breathe for a moment

[fair mirage]

but yeah so theres no server issues rn?

[spark walrus]

I haven't been on since yesterday, but I didn't have any issues uploading my avatar.

[uneven whale]

After adding vrcfury mmd mod does not work. I added "blendshape optimizer", head is called "body", I do not understand why it does not work. Help!

All blendshapes worked fine for me before adding vrcfury

[fair mirage]

well it magically fixed itself so shrug

[fair mirage]

the blendshape optimizer removes blendshapes mmd needs.
you have to add "mmd compatibility" from vrcfury alongside the blendshape optimizer and it should work

[uneven whale]

I also set compatibility with mmd, and it doesn't help...

[fair mirage]

in that case you have to remove the blendshape optimizer

[waxen smelt]

?

How do I fix this

[fresh jacinth]

You added too many things to your avatar, gotta delete some so you can delete the parameters

[waxen smelt]

Oh

On it

[waxen smelt]

It doesn’t have that many things

[fresh jacinth]

That is a lot in my opinion and the parameters agree

[waxen smelt]

What do I delete?

[fresh jacinth]

It's up to you, I'd recommend making separate avatars for different outfits

[waxen smelt]

Ok so I just delete the toggles and I’m done ?

Sorry I never got this before

When uploading

[fresh jacinth]

Sorry I'm in the middle of class right now, hopefully someone can explain better than me soon

[waxen smelt]

Ok

Ty

[uneven whale]

I don't understand what I need to enter here, what are these empty fields?

I don't understand English well...

[fair mirage]

you don't need to do anything with them

[dire dagger]

Any1 know how to fix?

[somber sequoia]

it's not clear what this is doing from here - is this a thing you created?

[tawny flint]

Can anyone help me to learn how to do quest and pc uploads I know how to do pc uploads but not quest yet

[somber sequoia]

just switch the target platform to quest in the build window

[drowsy mural]

i need the same thing too 😭

[night ember]

you need to use vrchat mobile shaders

[drowsy mural]

everytime i use it my shader turns blank

[night ember]

blank?

[olive pelican]

You have to reassign the textures.

IF you just replace the shader, it will have unintended consequences.

Also note, quest has nearly no support for alpha channel (it does but we won't go there and it's complicated)

Or a lot of the special features custom shaders like Poi make use of.

If this is a dealbreaker for you, your options are (as of rn) have a PC version with all the features that you will not be able to see, get a PC, or rebuild the model to compensate for the feature loss.

[drowsy mural]

so if put vrc mobile shader, i have to import the shaders again and put it to that? sorry am completely new to this

[olive pelican]

Set the shader to mobile, and then assign the textures (image files) to the color and normal slots.

Assuming it's a relatively normal material, they should at least look somewhat correct.

[drowsy mural]

oh i sorta understand

[olive pelican]

The color and normal slots will be inside the material, you can either double click the empty slot, or drag and drop the file from the project file browser.

[drowsy mural]

when i convert my horns shader to vrc mobile toon regular it turns blank how do i fix this

[olive pelican]

Open the material. Take a screenshot of the inspector panel with the material selected.

What has happened is, when you changed the shader it "forgot" what textures to use. You have to remind it.

You do this by going into the material and assigning the textures.

To explain; Shaders are the actual math that the computer does. Quest is limited on how much math it can do. The material uses the shader, and Textures, to make a model look like it does. Think of it like the shader is the actual chemicals that make the paint liquid, the material is the paint, the texture is the paint scheme.

[onyx ferry]

Hey all, I have a parameter that isn't triggering. In GestureManager's debug menu, the parameter is highlighted, which seems like it must be related since it's the first time it's happened to me

Why would GestureManager highlight a parameter?

[olive pelican]

In other words, Shader isn't the same as Material, isn't the same as texture, a lot of people get that mixed up.

[somber sequoia]

textures go into materials, materials are applied to mesh renderers

[olive pelican]

It's being animated, or something? Gesture manager is third party (technically) so you'd have to consult the docs on it.

[night ember]

shaders tell how materials render

[olive pelican]

Fair point. It's hard to analogize shader math properly, but I'm not going to deepfry some poor person talking about my (limited) understanding of it, lmao.

[somber sequoia]

hehe

[onyx ferry]

It does seem like it's being animated to remain false somehow. Even when I tick it in the debug menu, it becomes true for 1 frame and then goes back to false

[olive pelican]

Last time I tried explaining how I do object management for avatars I think the person actively started overheating mentally.

[somber sequoia]

probably is then, you may have to find which animation is doing it. One way I do is turn off all but one layer in the animator using the weight parameter, then add each back one by one to see which affects it

[night ember]

it only does that if its being driven by a contact

[somber sequoia]

yeah or a contact

[olive pelican]

(synced parameter controls object, controller layer determiens parameter, driver layer takes Parameter and runs animations)

[onyx ferry]

It is contact-driven, but the contacts aren't triggering it. I tried changing to constant instead of On Enter and it's still not going

The trigger and the receiver have matching tags, also

[night ember]

if its being controlled by a contact of course its going to switch off

the contact is false

[onyx ferry]

Right but it remains false even if I move the trigger into the receiver

[night ember]

then it doesnt match

[somber sequoia]

or self vs. others

[somber sequoia]

if you're testing in unity in play mode, and your test sender isn't on the avatar, then the receiver has to accept from non-self too

(this one gets me all the time)

[onyx ferry]

Sender is on the avatar, but it starts the game hidden, could that have something to do with it?

[somber sequoia]

nah, the active state wouldn't affect this so long as it's active when you want it to work

[onyx ferry]

I thought not

all my other custom senders and receivers work, today is the first time I'm getting guff

[ivory jackal]

Can someone help me with this

[onyx ferry]

It doesn't look like they're actually hovering. The bottom-most part of the animation is still on the floor. I think it's just the animation that comes with the package you're using that looks strange

[wanton cedar]

shape of the legs too

[ivory jackal]

I sorta figured, thx

[somber sequoia]

show a pic or something - without that I'm assuming that your avatar's origin is not at the world origin.

oh this is the digitgrade one? I'm curious what the rig looks like

[olive pelican]

It's probably your locomotion animation.

[somber sequoia]

ahh that method.

[drowsy mural]

how do i keep my shaders when i use vrc mobile shaders

[night ember]

what

[ornate stump]

You have to change shader, so that doesn't make sense that you can keep shader.

[olive pelican]

You can't. Quest has strict limitations on shaders.

[still shuttle]

I am having a weird issue that I have never had before. For some reason, when I turn off or on a mesh in the Hierarchy, it just automatically turns it back on/off without me touching anything. I tried closing and re-opening unity but it is still going on. I am so confused

I actually have no idea what could be causing it

[drowsy mural]

how to fix😭

[somber sequoia]

wow that is a lot of meshes.

[somber sequoia]

Post the first 2-3 errors from the console. these are side-effects and don't provide any useful info.

[drowsy mural]

gotta dealt with 9 errors to upload

[somber sequoia]

yep

can't tell if those are the first (it looks like not), but that shader one you'll need to fix

[drowsy mural]

😭

[night ember]

panosphere isnt a mobile shader

[uneven whale]

Help please! I add gogoloco with vrcfury, and it breaks the mmd mod that is already built into the avatar, so no facial expressions occur during the dances. I tried to install all the vrcfury scripts that were supposed to help me, but nothing changes.
I have already contacted a large number of people, most either do not understand or ignore.
I believe the reason lies in the fact that the avatar itself has a base layer, and gogoloco has a base layer.
I installed mmd compatibility, blendshape optimizer, it did not help me, or I am doing something wrong. This happens exactly when I install gogoloco...

[olive pelican]

All those are secondary modules/prefabs, and the best place to get support for them would be in their respective discords, or by contacting their respective developers.

VRCFury is pretty good at answering questions on this sort of stuff, I'd start with them.

[uneven whale]

They sent me to the gogoloco server, but they need confirmation.

[olive pelican]

If they're not being helpful, I'd just skip using Gogoloco

Then again, I never found a use for that package so I'm biased.

[balmy sun]

My avatar has been fine until I just updated it today, I didnt change anything but now the wings on my avi are glitching/freaking out when I move, same thing with my hair.. anyone know what might have caused this? or does it have to do with a vrchat update

[rain cave]

Hey i have set up phys bones on my arm fur but the phys bones do not move (and the gizmos for the colliders also dont show)
I also have tried it with the default settings (only thing changed was the collision radius to 0.025)

[balmy barn]

add endpoint, you have 1 bone

easiest way to see if they will move is having a radius and they appear, yours not showing

[rain cave]

ah! how do i find out the direction to point the endpoints to?

[balmy sun]

mess around with it until you get it right

[somber sequoia]

the one that looks right 🙂

[balmy barn]

y usually what i add , rare cases its a mix of the 3

[balmy sun]

anyone know about this?

[rain cave]

okay thx for the quick help!

[uneven whale]

Alas, unfortunately I am a mobile player, so I simply need such a function to simulate at least some movements...

[fallow aspen]

could be because of vrchat update..

[somber sequoia]

you can have full body tracking with mobile

well not phones but a headset anyway.

[uneven whale]

It is broken, and in a horizontal position the head tilts to the side. I am also interested in the lying and sitting positions

[somber sequoia]

sorry, what is broken?

[somber sequoia]

oh your avatar, yeah I wasn't commenting on that.

[uneven whale]

This is a bug that the developers have been unable to fix for several months.

[fallow aspen]

so it's with all mobile players?

[uneven whale]

Yes

[somber sequoia]

one assumes there is a Canny report for this?

[uneven whale]

This is a global error, regardless of the device model.

[fallow aspen]

even the virsion of mobile
like android and ios both?

[uneven whale]

Yes, people wrote about it a lot, I hope it will be fixed soon. There was also a bug where the camera flight was completely removed

[somber sequoia]

unless I misunderstand and this is a bug with something third-party, I didn't see what caused it

ah ok. interesting.

[uneven whale]

I don't understand iOS versions, only Android

[fallow aspen]

ah okay

that really need to be fixed

[still shuttle]

Bumping this cuz im tweaking tf out

there are zero errors. It's literally just fighting with me for no reason

[snow goblet]

bashing together two avatars with https://booth.pm/en/items/6382006 this asset.
vrchat claims i dont have these bones mapped, when in both avatars, i do have them mapped.
shown is my heiarchy and two of the avatars. the first being Kipfel which is where from this asset takes all bones that actually move the avatar, and the second being the Karin base where it only takes the clothing
i can give a bit more detail if needed!!

[uneven whale]

I did everything I could to survive on the phone.

but unfortunately mmd mode is broken because of gogoloco

[fallow aspen]

that's bad

[uneven whale]

What are you talking about?

[fallow aspen]

Honestly, GogoLoco messing with MMD mode is a common issue.

I have heard quite a few times about it

[somber sequoia]

I'd probably just make two avatars, one with MMD, one with GogoLoco. It's not like you use those both at the same time, right?

[fallow aspen]

you can use both at same time but there are chances of clash between the layers ig

[somber sequoia]

yeah but why would you?

[olive pelican]

Same reason people put 45 outfits on one model.

More feature more gooder

[somber sequoia]

Yes - and this is exactly why I'm suggesting not doing that 🙂

[fallow aspen]

but what if someone has already done it then what's the solution?

[olive pelican]

Realistically or theoretically?

[somber sequoia]

IMO break it up.

you've said it doesn't work

[olive pelican]

Realistically, a person who is using all this stuff likely knows word zero of it and should probably just pay someone to fix it.
Theoretically, they could learn/iterate and test what's wrong, and eventually resolve the issue.

(That second one is how I learned all t.he stuff I know, actually, so I can confirm it works, but it sucks.)

[barren swift]

when i change a value in a material in the mesh it changes the same value for all the materials in the mesh
when animating

[olive pelican]

You need to rename the vakue

*value

Look into how to do that based on the material. I'm gonna guess Poi?

[barren swift]

ive tried

[olive pelican]

It's literally a button, bruv. You need to rename those material values, lock the material, and animate.

Poi has documentation on that on their site.

I can confirm it works, I've used that method myself.

[barren swift]

before though i never had to do this

this only started happening after i imported and deleted mtoon and xwear packager

[olive pelican]

Yes, manually deleting packages can cause issues.

[barren swift]

it did it when the package was there too

before i could just edit a value in a material and it would animate that value just like that

but after i imported those 2 things it started doing this

[barren swift]

i want it back to this

how would i do that

[olive pelican]

If it's Poi, whatever you were doing before was an edge case glitch, likely because you had them on different meshes, or were using different properties.

[barren swift]

so the way ive animated materials my entire unity expierance is just a glitch and seemingly impossible

[olive pelican]

No, more of an edge case than a glitch

Is not be able to tell you without seeing the project but it's likely.

As Captain Edge Case I can say with some confidence that's likely the thing.
Again, assuming you were using Poi and not something else.

For example, mtoon for one thing and poi for another.

[sharp ocean]

I faced this problem some years ago. I can fully explain.
When you animate a shader you're animating every copy of said shader on that mesh. What likely happened for you before was:

1. There was only 1 material on the meshes you edited
2. If there was more then 1 it had different shaders per material
3. It had a workaround, like pois locking system

If you want to animate just a single material on a multi mat mesh then yes, you do need a workaround like poiyomi. Right clicking to "rename while animating" will make each material use an individually generated shader when you lock them, hence, the work around from 3.

So yes. How you animated before would have caused the same issue. Seems like you were just lucky to not face the issue before.

I would heavily recommend asking for help in the poiyomi discord as the issue you're trying to overcome isn't a unity issue at this point but something poiyomi inherently does. As well as some other shaders but I dont know em off the top of my head. Unless you learn how to use the locking system yourself, then yippee.

[olive pelican]

Well stated.

[sharp ocean]

Thank~

[olive pelican]

Do y'all think the better method for making musculature rigging would be to use FinalIK or constraints?

I feel like FinalIK could get closer, but would be more prone to wigging out.

[glass geyser]

does anyone know I can animate the mouth of an avatar with textures like I see some do instead of using blendshapes or a jaw bone

[olive pelican]

Yes, there's a few ways to do that.

You can even control bones and constraints with your voice, technically.

Hell, you could cast spells by saying magic words.

[glass geyser]

ok good, so is there like a tutorial vid on how to do that or something cause I have no clue how to

[olive pelican]

Look up flip book bison's

Hang on driving

Flip book visemes

That's the one, lmao

[balmy barn]

know a few ways but no tutorial - on way is 1 texture for face stuff and offset uv on a tilesheet using lipsynch mode = viseme parameters only and a blendtree ( Viseme int = 0 <> 14 )

see values for a 4x4 sheet

[ivory jackal]

(Refering to this, I learnt my avatar looks weird with the default walking animation so Im trying to edit it) I dont know where I'm going wrong, I made a dupe of the walking animation, edited it, placed it into the default blendtree where the previous walking anim was; then, I test on vrchat, where nothing changes. not in sense that I cant figure out how to make it 'look good' but that literally NOTHING happens at all. It still retains the old animation.

[queen linden]

Looking for people that could help with possible weight painting issues. Some clothes I've attached to my avatar aren't moving despite being connected to the proper bones and vertex groups. Other pieces are fine and I've followed the same steps for all parts.

[somber sequoia]

lots of people here can, unless you're wanting to commission an artist, in which case VRC Traders discord.

[queen linden]

I'm not looking to commission, I'm just trying to fix my own model that I've made.

[somber sequoia]

then here works, maybe #avatar-rigging

[late wharf]

My avatars won’t show up it keeps saying security error

Is it because I’m in a MacBook instead of windows

[empty elbow]

not quite a vrchat issue, but this is the only place i can think of that uses univrm

im trying to export this model as vrm and.. well this happens

[late wharf]

Make sure your using updated version of Uni vrm and the right unity

You can dm me if you need more help

[empty elbow]

im using the latest version of univrm and i think the latest version of unity as well

[late wharf]

Dm me sweetie

[empty elbow]

alright!!

[quiet summit]

so im working on this avatar and the eye bones are basically making the eyes pop out of the socket. does anyone know why the base of the bones are moving? if you can please help.

[somber sequoia]

are the eye bones perfectly vertical and with 0 bone roll? And the head at the center of rotation?

[quiet summit]

yup, nothing is rotated, all vertical

[somber sequoia]

looks decent - maybe a little far back though?

I'm guessing now that the bone head isn't at the exact center of rotation

[quiet summit]

maybe? idk i just liked it up with the neck. but i think the eyes arent perfectly verticle so lemme see if that fixes it

[somber sequoia]

the eye bone has nothing to do with the neck though, it should be at the point you want the eye itself to rotate around

if it's in the wrong place you'll see them moving weirdly

[quiet summit]

oh i meant with the head position being a bit back. but uhh, the eyes are still doing it

[somber sequoia]

if you rotate the bone in Blender in pose mode around the Z axis, does it work right?

[quiet summit]

yeah it works fine

it also works fine in unity until i go in play mode

[somber sequoia]

hmmmm

[quiet summit]

for some reason the bones are moving in play mode, when they shouldnt be

[somber sequoia]

and you have the eye rotation states and such setup in the avatar descriptor properly?

[quiet summit]

yup, same way ive always done them

[somber sequoia]

but are they correct in this case? 🙂

[quiet summit]

yes?

[somber sequoia]

you clicked the preview and they look right?

[quiet summit]

yeah theyre all fine

[somber sequoia]

ok cool. Weird then! I'm not sure, I'd expect that to all be fine

[quiet summit]

yeah, i honestly have no clue.

[split sentinel]

Unsure if anyone has any experience with VoiceAttack on here but my avatar I'm trying to control has a paramater like "blank/blank" and I don't really know how I'm supposed to use it with parameters like that

nvm

[raw saddle]

in addition to what was said before, some avatars have multiple copies of the mouth area that get nudged slightly forward with blendshapes
saves a drawcall but kind of unintuitive and might z-fight on mobile platforms

[ivory jackal]

someone help me with this pls

[somber sequoia]

do you have a base locomotion animator on your avatar?

[ivory jackal]

if you're referring to this, then yes

[somber sequoia]

yep, just checking - so you replaced the animation in one of the states in that?

[ivory jackal]

yep

[sacred girder]

Hey does anybody know how to fix this issue? not sure whats causing the bone to shift. its causing the model to float...

[snow goblet]

able to provide better view of the armature or hierarchy?

[sacred girder]

oh yup can do! sorry for late reply

... wait one sec ima try one thing rq and get back to ya

didnt fix it man one sec

[sacred girder]

so what i think is happening here is that unity doesn't register the bone as tpose, which fair it is a bit at a odd angle, so it ends up trying to stretch it out or something. trying to make digi legs for the avi. Heres the hierarchy for the bones with the problem spot being the lower plantigrade/pedi legs

[snow goblet]

oooh, ive never used non-plantigrade rigs so this might be an issue for another user to help with :<
my only idea is potentially make a zero weight bone for it to use for Foots

[sacred girder]

aw thats alright

hmm could i ask though, im still relatively new to alot of this, especially rigging

im not entirely sure what a zero weight bone is still. Is it literally just a bone that doesnt have any weight on the model or something else

im be down to try whatever you think could help

[somber sequoia]

ohhh

[dense nest]

i have no knowledge and am just following yt tuts (been trying for hours now) so talk to me like i'm an idiot ( i am )
is this okay? how can i add these bones? i see them in armatures on the avatar and i see they're named different

[somber sequoia]

yeah I can see how it thinks the IK-driven leg bones should be straight down. I don't like this digitgrade method, I don't think it works well at all.

[somber sequoia]

what's the context here? Is this a prop you're making or one someone else did? Is it for this avatar? What is the item?

[dense nest]

sorry, i'm trying to add clothes (specifically a full body suit) to an avatar, i found both the avatar and clothes by scowering on the internet and they are not found together.
i've managed to get the clothes to load properly and everything but it just glues itself to the neck and doesn't attach to arms or anything

[somber sequoia]

I've barely used this vrcfury component but it seems to be expecting bones on your avatar in a specific configuration - this thing works by matching up the prefab bones and avatar bones.

[dense nest]

do you know of any other way i can add these clothes properly? i legit have no idea what i'm doing and have been at this for like 5 hours

cause i don't see a way to like give em these bones