avatar-help

[compact dust]

idk y tho

[half moth]

test again, if it's not working then while still in play mode verify that your FX animator isn't being touched by anything

[half moth]

make sure to apply all transforms in blender

[old condor]

I tried disableing them and uploading the avatar but the toggles dont work anymore.

[compact dust]

wdym touched by anything

[rough iris]

How do?

[half moth]

select stuff in object mode, go to object -> apply -> all transforms

[half moth]

open it up from your avatar's root object and see if it's been changed at all

[compact dust]

playmode transitions take so long without vrcf 😭

[half moth]

[compact dust]

ok nvm unity crashed.

waddafuk

[half moth]

if anything vrcf makes it slower to get into playmode

cause it has to change a bunch of shit on your avatar before it lets you enter playmode

[compact dust]

i lov unity 🙏

[rough iris]

Still seems to do it after applying transforms

[half moth]

can you show a blender screenshot

[compact dust]

holy shit im going to kms it wasnt saved after like 14 hours

🎉

[old condor]

Maybe i dont understand what you mean by "on by default" How do you disable that?

[compact dust]

literally all that time was just texture work tho so

[half moth]

they're enabled by default, and you want them to not be. yes, that means you'll have to remake all of your toggles.

the avatar preview is based on what the state of your avatar looks like before any animations are played - so if an object is enabled by default in your Unity scene, it will be enabled in the avatar preview

[half moth]

did you fit this by moving the armature around in pose mode or how did you go about it?

[rough iris]

Sculpting

Sculpted, used SENT to parent, then fixed up weights

[half moth]

mkay. try applying the armature modifier on your clothing meshes, then make a new one to stick your armature into

[compact dust]

holy shit my textures saved im gonna live

[rough iris]

The bending persists

[half moth]

I'm not overly familiar with what SENT does to parent stuff, do you have multiple humanoid bones where you shouldn't?

[rough iris]

Not any bones that would be "weird"

I've done this before with the same avatar, and this is the only time it's breaking

[half moth]

oh right SENT is robust weight transfer, ok

I forgor

did you remove all vertex groups before doing your weight transfer?

[rough iris]

I did not

[half moth]

you should have

do that and try again, skip any physbone vertex groups though

[rough iris]

Still does it

[half moth]

well that's annoying

[rough iris]

So like I said..I've put clothes on this model before..more than just a few times, and..this is the only time I'm having anything similar to this error...do you think it could be something with the outfit itself?

It's made for the base I'm putting it on, and it's only happening on the arms of the model

[half moth]

this looks to me like the upper arm bone is for some reason being moved up a bunch

[rough iris]

Every bone on both arms seems to be moved around a lot, yeah

[half moth]

I've never seen this happen before myself either, so I'm not sure what might have caused it. you've gotten rid of the outfit's armature entirely, right?

[rocky grail]

how do you fix this

[old condor]

So i just checked in the animator and it shows that the toggles are already set to the off toggle as the "default layer state"

is that what you mean by have them off by default?

[rough iris]

Correct

[half moth]

they need to be off before the animator is even taken into consideration

if they're on when you're looking at your avatar in your Unity editor, then they will be on in the avatar preview

[half moth]

flip the normals on the left shoe

or don't use backface culling in your material, but that's treating a symptom and not repairing the root cause

[half moth]

you're exporting the outfit along with the avatar, right? if so, humour me for a sec and try exporting the outfit by itself into a different fbx?

[rough iris]

I've tried that as well, still bent

[half moth]

have you tried putting it back into blender after doing this? and checked the bone transforms in Unity?

[rough iris]

Yeah, everything seems to work just fine, :c

[amber sentinel]

how to fix the Unity Hub log in bug?

[half moth]

lemme see a screenshot in Unity with the upper arm bone selected, include the hierarchy so I can see wtf is going on

[ornate stump]

Any detail about it?

[amber sentinel]

i tryed to log in, but it failed MANY times, so i deleted it and redownloaded it but, still doesnt work

[ornate stump]

Screenshot of what it does.

[amber sentinel]

no, since that bug i didnt downloaded it again

[ornate stump]

Are you no longer needing help then?

[amber sentinel]

i'm about to download it and so trying it again...

i just got logged in... but there was no lie, it really often failed to log me in.

[amber sentinel]

so no help anymore :/

[ornate stump]

Just screenshot of what it did.

[half moth]

maybe some vertices have more than 4 bone weights and Unity is getting confused about it?

[limber birch]

How would I stop the shorts from doing this?

[ornate stump]

Fix weight paint. Do bluring or smearing weight around.

[limber birch]

awesome thanks

[swift dirge]

I want to update my Chocolat base from version 1.01 to 1.02, what would be the best way to do it?
On Chocolat's booth page, there's seems to be a warning regarding updating, tho I can't read Japanese.

[civic hazel]

if you're using Google Chrome, highlight the text, rightclick it and select "Translate to English"

[grizzled drum]

My animaton is Glitchy

[swift dirge]

that's what I did, I didn't find any guide on how to update tho.

[grizzled drum]

Whats the simplest way to have an animaton that animates the player and an object?
because im sure im doing it wrong

[uneven whale]

Does anyone have ready-made hand movement animations that can be embedded into the quest avatar for android?

[ornate stump]

You must separate animation on player body to action layer, and other object to FX layer.

[grizzled drum]

I'm doing that and it's Desyncing like no one biz

[ornate stump]

Then you should remake the action and FX layer to make sure that both of animation layer start playing at same time.

[grizzled drum]

It Desyncs for everyone else

[ornate stump]

What does it mean to "desync"?

[grizzled drum]

Works fine for the User
Everyone else gets a slue of Desync bugs

[grizzled drum]

Look at my vid

Like if it goes out of the Skybox it often bugs for everyone else and doesn't appear
It drops from 5KM up

[visual pivot]

I'm trying to add a second set of arms to my avatar. Is there something that could help me set up all the constraints or do I have to go through each individual bone and set them up?

[dire dagger]

What am I doing wrong.

This is my first time uploading

And I’m already getting frustrated

[junior void]

You have a missing script

Check in the avis description/readme/sales text whether you missed to install a dependency

[crude moat]

I wanted to shorten legs of avatar I'm using so I put the fbx file into blender, shortened the legs and exported it to fbx. The issue is when I put it in unity(first importing unity package with avatar and then just drag in the fbx file with edited avatar) everything except clothes is completely white and everything has different lighting than the original avatar. I don't even know how to begin trying to approach this.

[desert elk]

are you overriding the fbx or putting it in as a new one?
if you're putting it in as a new one, you'll need to manually assign the materials again

[junior void]

You assign materials again

[crude moat]

How do I override and where do I assign materials?

[junior void]

overriding = saving directly from blender on top of the existing one to you unity folder

assigning materials is done in the mesh, there are material slots. you can drag material orbs from your explorer in the bottom into them

[crude moat]

Thank you for help

[bitter ginkgo]

i am trying to make custom hand gestures but i dont have a gesture layer in my contoller

[junior void]

you can just create one

[midnight mulch]

Does anyone know how to fix this, my content manager isn't showing any of my avatars I've posted and anytime I try to upload I keep getting a blueprint error, I made sure I've got the latest SDK as well, I also signed into my girlfriends account and none of here avatars are appearing as well?

[junior void]

sounds like a connection issue or sdk stuff outage

[bitter ginkgo]

then i need to remake all the hand gestures dont I ?

[junior void]

yea ofc

[midnight mulch]

What's an SDK outage?

[bitter ginkgo]

can i find the default animaions somewhere

[junior void]

sometimes vrchat has network issues too

[midnight mulch]

I've been trying to fix this for about 3 weeks now and I've had no luck

I even made a whole new unity account and tried it

[junior void]

ok, then you need to go hint hunting in the console

[midnight mulch]

Right, thx ill try that

[crude moat]

I tried to override avatar. I exported as fbx to unity folder with the original fbx. And this happened

[junior void]

Did you use the same export settings

[crude moat]

I didn't edit anything except the name if that's what you are asking

[junior void]

Not every avatar uses the default blender export settings

and if you save over it with different ones, boom

it looks like it has an outline via shader

and it looks like that outline has a size or thickness if you will

and if your avatar has a different size on export than the original, the outline size will blow up equally

does that make sense? so try to use fbx all as export size in blender and save over it again

[crude moat]

You mean "export all collections"? The thing under export?

[junior void]

no i mean the scale setting

apply scalings fbx all instead of default all local

[crude moat]

oh, this ok, I will try

It looks good, thanks for help

[distant summit]

also don't forget to disable "Add Leaf Bones", as forgetting to do so and replacing the FBX and reopening repeatedly will result in a large number of unintended bones on the end of fingers, feet, tail, ears, etc

[urban lava]

what is an animator and how do add one to an avatar?

[ornate stump]

Animator is a component, to make your avatar to have animations. If you set your avatar as humanoid rig, it should came with one already added.

[midnight mulch]

So uh have no hints my console is empty and says I have no errors

[urban lava]

im new and dont understand what or how to give him whatever his neck needs

[somber sequoia]

also put the correct eye bones into the slots, you have something wrong there.

[ornate stump]

head1_neck go to neck. head1_head go to head.

[urban lava]

k ill try rq

[urban lava]

do i just remove the connection?

for the eye

[ornate stump]

Yes.

[urban lava]

k

[somber sequoia]

you put the right bones into the right slot - dragging in a new one removes the old

[urban lava]

still shows error (im new to making avis, sry if this is wrong)

[ornate stump]

Apply And Done first

[urban lava]

oh mb😭

[somber sequoia]

Also verify stuff on the "body" page is right too.

[urban lava]

tsym

[urban lava]

k

[urban lava]

he is super short and the camrea is way above his head, how do i fix?

[somber sequoia]

Please don't ping me specifically for new questions, anyone here can help.

[urban lava]

mb

[desert elk]

in the avatar descriptor, there's a thing called a viewpoint. Move it down

[stray trench]

both my avatar's shoulders are extremely blurry, no idea what would cause this, it happens regardless of texture used and i have not altered the body mesh

[fathom dagger]

hey! i am trying to create a vertical scroll list but it is not smooth, if i click to interact with the scroll list it scrolls but if i let it go and interact again the list just goes back to the original place (idk how to explain bruh)

[ornate stump]

Are you confusing with world dev channel?

[calm lodge]

Hey ive got a question if send someone a VRM for a avi i made can they import it to vrc so i can use it? My unity is too good for my pc to handle. I also dont know if i should ask this here if i cant let me know!

[desert elk]

You will need unity (ideally blender as well)
if you can't run unity then maybe you can commission someone on VRC Traders #1204490664637890580 to convert the avatar to a VRC version for you
Having someone upload it for you is very dangerous

[calm lodge]

Oh ok thx!

[urban lava]

how do i get other assets to show up in game? im trying to add a scarf but i don't know how to connect it to the avatar

[desert elk]

there are many ways

connect it in blender
connect it in unity: manually, with vrcfury, with modular avatar, someway else

[urban lava]

how do i connect them i unity?

manully

[somber sequoia]

that's probably the worst of those options though

[stray trench]

doesnt really matter

[stray trench]

its a fairly in depth process no matter which way you do it, and would take too long to explain here, there are some great guides on youtube that explain how

it also depends on if this scarf was made specifically for the avatar youre using, or if its just a random scarf

[desert elk]

yup

[urban lava]

its just a random scarf

[stray trench]

so if the thing you want to add to your avatar was not made specifically for it, it probably will clip through the avatar in a lot of places and might not look right

sometimes you'll be lucky and it hardly clips, sometimes it looks awful. if you want to fix the clipping, you'll need to do some work in blender to fit the asset around the model, which is another thing you'd need to learn

[urban lava]

then ill prob just try blender

[stray trench]

that'd probably be the most efficient, then you can take it into unity and set up physbones if you want the scarf to move around at all

make sure you save what you did in blender, because you'll probably want to go back in and start over, or redo a step, usually the first time doesn't go perfectly

[urban lava]

👍

[hexed bay]

So, this is my first time using Unity and I’m not sure how to get a model into the thing- I already have a basic model, but idk how to add it- please help T>T

If needed I can “stream” it to make it easier to see- I just don’t know how unity works

[somber sequoia]

could start here (or similar): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bSwMz4WcajQ

[hexed bay]

Thank you!

[unborn axle]

Does anyone know how to make text around an avatar, specifically one that will always face the observer?

[frank dawn]

Does anyone know how to make a throwable prop?

[frank dawn]

I don't know the details but you are describing "billboarding" You could make a flat surface or a ring for text to scroll over in Blender pretty easily, the rest is text on an image and shader work if you go for the ring.

[white kite]

Can I get a little help with uploading an avatar, or at least help understanding why my upload process continues to get stuck at the same point each time.

[quaint oak]

Alr I may be incredibly stupid but uhh,, how do I stop stuff like his other outfit and wings from showing up in the preview? I mean when I wear it they don't appear but I assume people who don't fully have it on see it with everything on at the same time

[desert elk]

i believe the preview is the same as your avatar looks like in unity by default

[desert elk]

screenshot the errors

[white kite]

Here's the problem though, it doesn't give me errors, it just gets stuck uploading, saying "BuildPlayerDataGenerator RuntimeInitializeOnLoads"

It sits there for hours, not moving, and if I force-close the process, it corrupts my entire project.

[desert elk]

does your account have meet the requirements to upload?
can you try using a different wifi?

[white kite]

It has the requirements to upload yes. I can try using my phones hotspot, but that's all I got for different WiFi.

[versed granite]

so when importing my avatar back from blender its somehow destroying the avatar? heres my export settings, any suggestions?

[desert elk]

"destroying" how?

[somber sequoia]

Details in #avatar-rigging

[desert elk]

ah

i saww

i can suggest the same thing. Don't override, import as new and set up again (or use pumpkin tools to transfer all components)

[versed granite]

hmm theres gotta be some way to prevent it from it causing this error other than start over

even without any editing just importing the fbx into blender and exporting it back out causes the issue

[desert elk]

are you overriding?

or importing as new?

[versed granite]

Im importing over the existing one to add more the project

something Ive done a million times but this avatar is giving me problems

[desert elk]

if your prefab is unpacked that will cause this issue, solution = redo now and don't unpack again.

[versed granite]

ok what about the avatars that are not unpacked in the scene that are having the exact same thing happen?

[desert elk]

is the material set to something like 0% visible?

and can you send a full screenshot of that happening to a not unpacked avatar?

[versed granite]

all materials are locked its not just turning invisible

[white kite]

I figured out why my project wouldn't upload.
My computer's anti-virus program was blocking the process.

[somber sequoia]

ugh

[inner sonnet]

hey folks, my avatar doesnt seem to be moving vertically, if i move my playspace up or down, the legs appear to move instead of the head. (my avatar will crouch but the legs will come up rather than the body going down)

Anyone know what could be the cause?

[golden plume]

Does anyone know how to create a toggle for an alt set of expressions on an avatars hands? I've used a lot of public avatars that can toggle a different set of alt and default expressions but im not exactly sure how id do that

[desert elk]

sure, you can do it

hold on, i can take some screenshots

[urban lava]

how do i fix "fbx file not supported" in blender?

[desert elk]

where's your fbx from?\

[somber sequoia]

it's probably an ascii FBX file - yeah, where'd it come from?

[golden plume]

^

[urban lava]

unity?

[desert elk]

you don't export from unity

you just take the file and import it

don't use the unity's export

it's pointless

[golden plume]

unity export sucks unless you like spend hours perfecting its bs

[urban lava]

how?

[desert elk]

im

um

[golden plume]

did the model originate as a prefab?

[desert elk]

right click, show in explorer

then you can take that and upload it to blender

[golden plume]

🙏 i owe you my soul i cannot find a tutorial anywhere for this

[urban lava]

k

[desert elk]

this is kinda something that came to my mind

have a toggle for each set with an int parameter

and have the expressions set up for each of the sets like normal

[golden plume]

ty!

[versed granite]

make sure to set it up in the fx layer as well dont use gesture layer

[desert elk]

yes

[golden plume]

should i leave the expressions in my guesture layer blank so it doesnt mess it up

[desert elk]

gesture layer = hand gestures

you can leave it empty if you want your hands idle all the time

[golden plume]

ok thank you!

[gilded vector]

How do i update a prefab when the fbx didnt do it already?

I have a booth avi i modified and added stuff to that would take forever to redo all over again, i used a avi prefab that is that same avi model with a small change and i wanna get it to recognize i changed the fbx and update it but im not seeing anywhere that knows what i mean or has the same issue as me

[candid swallow]

i have a trail renderer on my hand
when i use the avatar and look at a mirror, the trails are broken
when other users [sample size of 1 person] look at me, the trails work as intended
more over, when other users use the same avatar, the trails work as intended FOR THEM on my screen
i've tried:
reinstalling
clearing all the caches
logging in with another account
changing all the graphics settings [i tried them all]
updating my drivers

can anyone help?

[somber sequoia]

trails and particles tend to use one-sided billboard renders by default, so they don't show in a mirror. Set your shader to be two sided - i.e. turn off backface culling.

[candid swallow]

where can i find this backface culling option

[somber sequoia]

in the material settings for your trail renderer, depending on shader

[candid swallow]

i just use poiyomi. would you suggest i use another

because there's no backface culling option here

[somber sequoia]

You can use whatever you want. For Poi, it's at the bottom, under "Rendering"

[arctic ginkgo]

the issue shown isn't backface culling, the trails are supposed to just be a trail on their hand/finger, but in the mirror locally it looks like it's making lines up and down

[candid swallow]

would you be referring to this

[candid swallow]

yeah, and it's not making those lines on other people's machines

[somber sequoia]

ah I didn't look very close at the video, just jumped to a very common conclusion

[arctic ginkgo]

if they wear the avatar, they don't have the issue on their side?

[somber sequoia]

at least this isn't also a problem.

[candid swallow]

no! that's why it's gotten me so confused

they don't see me having the issue on their side either

[arctic ginkgo]

how is your trail attached to your hand? is it just parented to it directly?

[candid swallow]

yes

[arctic ginkgo]

idk this might be a vrchat bug

i've seen this happen before

[candid swallow]

well this sux

[night ember]

unity issue in general

[gilded vector]

srry for re applying this but ive been having this isues for multiple days and im just trying to see if theres any way to fix it before starting over

[candid swallow]

You say it's a Unity issue but it's not happening for other people..

I had two friends look at my avi and say it looked normal

[night ember]

thats not how prefabs work

[night ember]

the trail rendering wrong can happen in the unity project itself

[gilded vector]

should i just start over then?

[candid swallow]

And... How can I fix that?

[night ember]

you drag what is in scene into the assets folder to create/update prefabs

prefabs are entirely disconnected from what was used to create them

[somber meadow]

If they're as "original" prefabs

[night ember]

which is what dragged in prefabs are

[somber meadow]

Don't they give you a choice to pick between a variant or original prefab

[night ember]

yea but they also dont really like when stuff gets overwritten

[night ember]

no clue as just refreshing the project fixed the issue

[limber birch]

Does anyone have some good hair physbones tutorials?

[night ember]

physbones from one avatar wont really transfer well to another avatar

[candid swallow]

refreshing the project?

[night ember]

reopening

[candid swallow]

i've done that 3 times

[inner sonnet]

bumping this because i am completely lost

[night ember]

animation or constraint or something wrong with the rig

[inner sonnet]

can you give some tips on debugging please?

[urban lava]

i added cloth physics to my scarf and it falls through me 😭

[somber meadow]

you'll need to use Unity colliders with "IsTrigger" checked and assign them to the cloth component

[urban lava]

ty

[desert elk]

or use phsybone limits

or physbone colliders

idk why you'd use unity colliders for that

[urban lava]

k, ill do that instead

[somber meadow]

They're Unity Cloth physics

[desert elk]

i see, I thought they used phsybones

cause that's usually what's used in those situations

[lavish cairn]

I bought a new avi, put it into creator companion but for some reason its pc only I only have a quest i need help to make it into a quest and yes i have the quest file

[compact dust]

reason for liltoon material turning pure white but keeping the outline?

[desert elk]

you will need to attach the same blueprint id to the quest version and upload the quest version

[lavish cairn]

i did doesnt work

[desert elk]

wdym? can you show screenshots?

it would help seeing what's wrong

[lavish cairn]

Well the quest version is attactched but when im in unity and i try to change the platform instead of windows i cant cnage it

[night ember]

You need to install the android build of unity

[lavish cairn]

and where can i find that

[night ember]

Build settings

[lavish cairn]

if i do that will i be able to wear the avi with all its things on quest

[night ember]

If its quest compatible

[lavish cairn]

it says it is

[night ember]

The quest is mobile hardware so its more strict than pc

[desert elk]

here are build settings

you will need to download Android

[lavish cairn]

let me find thsoe

im now downloading the andriod build

what should i do after that

[desert elk]

attach the same blueprint ID to the quest avatar as the pc one has

and upload the quest avatar

[lavish cairn]

the blueprint? where can i get the ID for it

[night ember]

Content manager in the sdk or from the pipeline manager component under the avatar descriptor on the avatar

[lavish cairn]

how do i know if the andriod is downloading it just opened a new tab

[desert elk]

what did it open?

you will need to probably press "download" on whatever it opened (probably the hub)

[lavish cairn]

its giving me new templates?

[desert elk]

?

[somber meadow]

you're at the download page

you need to get the android build module setup from there since your unity install is manual

[desert elk]

exactly

[lavish cairn]

i did and it opned that

[somber meadow]

yes, scroll to find the android build module setup

[lavish cairn]

it says like vr core mobile core ect

[desert elk]

this?

[lavish cairn]

mine doest look like that

[somber meadow]

screenshot what you're seeing

[desert elk]

screenshot

[lavish cairn]

how

[somber meadow]

Windows Key + Shift + S, afterwards paste it in this chat

[desert elk]

or the print screen button

Ctrl V to paste

[desert elk]

cancel

idk why it took you to this

[lavish cairn]

okay now the downloads are popping up looks like it will be a a while it says its 0 out of 9

[somber meadow]

It shouldn't be downloading that many things, should just be one module

[desert elk]

you didn't need to download all of that

what did you tick to download?

[lavish cairn]

nothing it just had the andriod build

[desert elk]

yeah you don't need all that

but whatever

[lavish cairn]

i didnt select it

[desert elk]

okay

as long as it downloads that's okay

[lavish cairn]

it says that something is compressing?

[desert elk]

just wait

[lavish cairn]

ok

i switched it to andriod now just reupload?

[desert elk]

if you attached the blueprint id

you will need to upload the quest version

like this

[lavish cairn]

it says i can detatch the piple line not add

[desert elk]

that avatar's too big for quest

you can for example reduce the texture size

for that little I think it could work

[lavish cairn]

how

[desert elk]

select the texture and in the inspector you'll see "max texture size" or something similar

[left gull]

liindy has a good tut for how to lower texture res

[desert elk]

you didn't select the texture

you selected your avatar

[lavish cairn]

ohhhh

[edgy terrace]

hello! wondering if anyone could point me in the right direction here - on my model, the matcap looks super weird on the rings, not at all what it is supposed to look like + lots of black spots. on the ears, this is what it is supposed to look like. i've tried recalculating normals as i thought that's what it was, but it only appeared to make the issue worse /:

[lavish cairn]

not sure where to go

[desert elk]

click the texture. Lilpimpen sent a video

[arctic ginkgo]

try clearing custom normals, although i'd be careful since it may mess up intentional custom normals. What I usually do is separate the objects that have messed up normals, clear the custom normals, then merge them back with the mesh they were originally part of.

this only should be an issue though if they are on the same mesh as the body and/or face, as typically those are the only parts of a model that have custom normals (although this isn't always true, just a good rule of thumb if you didn't make the model/customize the normals yourself)

[edgy terrace]

hmm, i cleared custom normals and exported to unity, it didnt seem to work - i used ctrl + shift + n to recalculate the normals (inside box checked) and exported again and got this:

it's like almost where it needs to be but it's like a matte color instead of shiny gold like the armband for instance

any other ideas i could try? 😅

[arctic ginkgo]

oh weird, it looks like your normals are all pointing the same direction

you can check your normal direction in blender

hold on i'll send a screenshot for where to find the setting

[edgy terrace]

this is how it looks for me 🙂

[arctic ginkgo]

you have to be in edit mode to enable this, it will show you each individual normal

[void totem]

Sorry to bother you, but can we talk?

[edgy terrace]

ah i see - this looks wrong to me but truthfully i dont know much about normals lol

should i bring the size down?

[lavish cairn]

alright id did all that and it still wont let me put it on still says pc only

[desert elk]

that's a message from last year...

[lavish cairn]

i did what u said and it says it uploaded

[void totem]

I know, but I don't have other ideas how to ping him

[night ember]

Why

[void totem]

why what?

[night ember]

Why are you pinging the person here

[void totem]

I dunno

there's some better places?

[left gull]

their DMs perhaps?

[void totem]

closed

[somber sequoia]

most of that stuff that's red probably should have its normals flipped so it's not red. Edit mode, select faces, alt+n, "flip"

[left gull]

well was it an avatar assistance question then, someone here might be able to help with that rather then waiting on them

[void totem]

he's creator of avatar, so only he can answer

[night ember]

Just because it uploaded doesnt mean its absolute dogshit in performance

[somber sequoia]

source: 92% of avatars uploaded 🙂

[desert elk]

that's not necessarily true.

[night ember]

source: avatar checks

[somber sequoia]

yep

[lavish cairn]

so what do i do

[left gull]

likely gotta optimize it a bit

[lavish cairn]

how

i paid for the avi it shouldnt be this difficult

[left gull]

most creators out there are asset bashers that dont care about making their content optimized so if it is a case of that + the model wasnt made/realeased recently they generally need a bit of manual fixing

do you have a screenshot of the SDK upload panel's stats? it'd be hard to pinpoint what needs fixing/optimizing without an idea on what you've currently got

[lavish cairn]

i bought this

https://payhip.com/b/0NoAr

[night ember]

good god

that thing is absolute dogshit in performance

[lavish cairn]

i thought it was pretty

[left gull]

it is nice but not made well at all

[night ember]

that is complete ass

[lavish cairn]

but i already spent the money

[desert elk]

that is horrible

[night ember]

🤷‍♂️

[somber sequoia]

haha wow

[desert elk]

always look at stats before buying things

[somber sequoia]

that's hilariously bad

[lavish cairn]

i was told to get it

[desert elk]

and if something doesn't have stats listed, don't buy it

[night ember]

it has stats listed and they are both absolute dogshit

[desert elk]

have fun learning blender if you wanna use this 👍

[desert elk]

damm

oh yeah

that is very bad

[left gull]

merge/remove some bones, merge some meshes and atlas+merge some material slots. Id also contact the creator and complain about the lack of actual ability to upload because yuck

[night ember]

not even the quest performance is even good for pc side

[somber sequoia]

yeah I'd never see that, it'd be blocked by default.

[desert elk]

yee

[night ember]

honestly surprised it even let you upload that to begin with

contact the creator Ig

[somber sequoia]

eh, you can upload much worse

[lavish cairn]

i dont know what to do now..

[somber sequoia]

you can upload it as is, if you really want. Where are you stuck?

[left gull]

its throwing security check fails at them

[night ember]

which isnt surprising

[somber sequoia]

oh well that's - yeah

[lavish cairn]

its uploaded.. just cant play on quest apparently

[night ember]

all of the avatars by this person are the exact reason why group instances ask you to use better performance avatars

[somber sequoia]

yep

[left gull]

quickest solution might just be removing some toggles/outfits and such

[night ember]

remove the majority of what this avatar gives you cause its all just bloat

[desert elk]

yup

Just make it 5 avatars and you should be fine

[left gull]

i just realized they show literal errors on the models stat image for both quest and PC 😭

[desert elk]

and they tell you not to fix them

like 3 times on the payhip page

[left gull]

thats so dumb

[desert elk]

🤷

in big red ink

[sharp crater]

Any way to make a non-spatialized audio source on an avatar, that can only be heard within a few meters of the avatar? Everything I've tried leads it to be global, even with a linear rolloff set to 5 meters

[night ember]

you need to set the audio to 3d

[sharp crater]

That sounds counter-intuitive lol i'll give it a try

[night ember]

2d means it doesnt use any depth whatsoever leading to the global audio

[spark walrus]

it uploads fine

I have 12 of them on my account from testing, because I'm the creator

haven't security checked once

please be kind to one another

[spark walrus]

This was a charity avatar made for donating $1k to the pollinator conservation fund

I did not make this one scratch because it was a quicker project, my apologies

[spark walrus]

thank you

[spark walrus]

thanks

[spark walrus]

thanks

[somber sequoia]

?

oh, are you the creator of that?

[spark walrus]

Yessir, one of my older avatars

[somber sequoia]

well then.

[spark walrus]

hihi!!!

[desert elk]

m

[somber sequoia]

I'm always going to say "you do you" but yeah.... that's quite a thing.

[spark walrus]

His stats?

Yes, he was a model which I kitbashed his head and body and hairs, only made the clothing and accessories, because it was made as a charity avatar, and the timeline was short.

I mainly am just sad that my customer was sent on a wild goose chase for five hours. Please, if someone needs help, direct them to where they can get help first :DD

thank you for being mindful of unoptimized avatars in the community, I do agree I have much to learn

[somber sequoia]

heh, "mindful"

[spark walrus]

?

What do you mean?

[somber sequoia]

I mean that's an interesting choice of word.

[spark walrus]

I am trying to word things as to not insult you or others!

[somber sequoia]

Likewise! It isn't the word I would use at all, but I'll be polite 🙂

[edgy terrace]

hey sorry for the late reply, was out doing stuff - i flipped the normals but now it looks like this :<

[left gull]

"Please, if someone needs help, direct them to where they can get help first" thats what this chat is for though?

[somber sequoia]

I wasn't really following along, was just suggesting based on that one image. But that looks decent

[spark walrus]

Yes sir, however, I mean the avatar creator's server. This is a chat for developing avatars

It says so above the channel

Perhaps I am not understanding the title

[left gull]

ask a mod but this chat is for model assistance of any kind not just creating from scratch

[desert elk]

Correct

[spark walrus]

Is there an upload help section here?

[desert elk]

this is the general avatar help section

for any avatar help

[left gull]

and if we told people to just go contact the creator/use the creators server that majority wouldnt get assistance and be stuck in upload lingo or be told to give money so the creator uploads it to their account

[desert elk]

yeah

and that's stupid imo

[spark walrus]

That might be true, I am not in many creator servers, only mine.

[night ember]

Id typically wouldnt aim for the very poor of very poor

[edgy terrace]

@arctic ginkgo sorry for the ping, just wondering if you had any ideas regarding this 🙂

[tribal pumice]

Right now I'm trying to upload my first generic rig avatar and I can't figure out how to get the menu to work. In game the menu is empty. Does anybody know how to make generic avatars?

[desert elk]

"empty" how?

[night ember]

generic rigged avatars arent supported by vrchat

[desert elk]

and kinda that yoo

[night ember]

just give it a blank humanoid rig

[desert elk]

that's normal for generic

if you want more give it a fake humanoid

like Diven suggested

[night ember]

humanoid bones dont need weight painting

[tribal pumice]

Do I have to build one in Blender? I have never made a skeleton in BLender

[night ember]

you could just use the example robot that the vrcsdk gives and just delete the mesh

[desert elk]

Yup

you could

[night ember]

since nonhumanoid rig stuff can just be slapped onto the humanoid rig stuff

[tribal pumice]

Aight

[lavish peak]

guys, i'm trying to make my current avatar quest compatible but i ran into a problem with the transparency of the materials

is there a way i can fix that? it's looking quite bad

[desert elk]

Quest can't really do transparency. Depending on what the part is there are some things you can do

For example take the knife tool in blender and cut around the mesh to fit
or if it's something like fishnets - out the skin colour under the fishnet texture

[lavish peak]

face and some parts of the clothes

[desert elk]

You could use the knife for clothes

and some of the face texture overlay on top of the face or also use the knife (may not work with Shapekeys well so be careful)

[lavish peak]

ok ok thanks a lot

back to blender we go XD

[gloomy wind]

Anyone know if there's a way to fix this? It only shows for one of the prefabs

[desert elk]

we can't tell much from this

[gloomy wind]

Oh my bad, I was importing a unity package and that appeared as a warning, would the full name of the prefab help or nah

[somber sequoia]

Yeah if you're going to post an error, ideally show those around it and maybe even the window too, clipping like that gives us zero idea of any context and so probably you'll get no useful help

[snow lotus]

hey guys, i recently uploaded an avatar and it was working fine yesterday. so i compressed it into a unity package and sent it to another computer. things seemed fine and all of my plugins were seemingly working, but when i upload and test it out on vrchat, it immediately freezes and the screen turns blue/pink whenever it loads in. can anyone help :')

ive tried two separate optimizers on it and nothing

[wise cosmos]

Why does it say I need my upper arms, legs, etc mapped when I already do? (Same thing with the upper arms error)

[somber sequoia]

show the rig setup with the list

[desert elk]

is your hierarchy alright? and show the rig setup

[somber sequoia]

also get the right Unity

[desert elk]

that too

[wise cosmos]

It was fine until it wasn't and then the VRC Avatar Descriptor capsules disappeared
They were there before

[somber sequoia]

probably remove the jaw bone unless you actually use it for speaking.
and what's "bust" there?

[wise cosmos]

bust is chest

nintendo rig names idk

[somber sequoia]

useless picture - is it actually in the hierarchy in order? hips -> spine -> chest -> upper chest (optional) -> neck -> head ?

[wise cosmos]

v

Yes

[somber sequoia]

hmm

wait, LegC?

the upper leg bones are direct children of hips?

[wise cosmos]

Ah I see now

[somber sequoia]

oh?

[wise cosmos]

Now they are

[somber sequoia]

ahh was that it?

[wise cosmos]

it still hasnt changed a thing

[somber sequoia]

yeah ok, that looks ok

[desert elk]

unpacked avatar problems? maybe 🤔

[wise cosmos]

I found something weird

I had put the original model up into the scene and it works just fine?

so i guess i'll just use this

[somber sequoia]

without a humanoid rig it's not gonna work how you expect in game

[wise cosmos]

It's humanoid though

The problem was the other model itself

This one actually registers feet, hands, and head for some reason

I must've changed something in the other one that just made it break entirely

[somber sequoia]

I guess I'm not sure which you mean is which, but if you've got a solution, that's cool

[tall dock]

Question, I added some teeth to an avatar I customized but the teeth won't move with the lower jaw, no matter what I do. I've already transfered the vertex data but the teeth only move when i move the Jaw bone in pose mode, not in the blendshapes that already exist

[mental pawn]

help why my avatar looks so squished like that but on the editor nothings wrong?

why does it look like that?

any help?

its literally supposed to look like this

these are the warnings

[somber sequoia]

weight paint

[night ember]

you need to also edit the teeth in the blendshapes

[somber sequoia]

oh - yeah and edit the blendshapes, sorry, I didn't read the whole thing

I really need to read the whole message before answering 🙂

[mental pawn]

i think i fixed it, I just had to hit reset and then make the t-pose

[tall dock]

They're weight painted, teeth go with the lower jaw whenever I move it in pose mode but in the already existing blendshapes that move the lower jaw, teeth won't move

[tall dock]

Ah okay, literally happened the same thing to me KJQhJKSAF

Thank you!

I'll see if it works

But I'd have to edit teeth by teeth, cause it's joined to the principal mesh

Isn't there an easier way? Whenever I joined objects and weight painted em to the body they would move even with already existing blendshapes

They're weight painted there but won't go down

[upper fiber]

I'm trying to make my Roblox avatar into a VRChat avatar, but when I imported it into Unity it was really shiny. How do I fix this?

[night ember]

the material

[upper fiber]

It won't let me edit the shaders

[formal prism]

how do you get the game on Pc?

[wispy elm]

Does anyone know why two axis puppet menu closes itself?

[night ember]

extract the material from the fbx

[tall dock]

gotta create shaders, u cant edit the base shaders

[night ember]

steam

[tall dock]

materials*

[night ember]

the material is attached to the fbx so yes you can

[upper fiber]

oh, how do I do that

[formal prism]

thanks

[tall dock]

Really? I never tried to edit the fbx materials

[night ember]

either drag it off of the fbx in the assets folder to make a duplicate or in the inspector while the fbx is selected and go to material tab

[tall dock]

And never could inside em

[night ember]

its just a material directly attached to the fbx you just need to extract it

[tall dock]

Ahhh gotcha

[upper fiber]

aight

[tall dock]

Also, I gotta edit every single teeth in order for em to work? Cause I'd have to edit all the vrc.v blendshapes and mmd ones

[upper fiber]

it won't let me drag it out

[somber sequoia]

you know weight paint has nothing to do with shape keys, right?

what you can do though is make a (probably complex) armature you can pose and then apply that as a shape key - it's one way people make facial expressions, rather than just manipulating vertices directly.

[night ember]

yes

thats typically how blendshapes work

thats how the model was made in the first place to have those blendshapes

[somber sequoia]

you can apply changes from one shape key to another though, that can help with some of the MMD ones

[tall dock]

Ahhh I understand

[upper fiber]

Nevermind I figured it out

thanks

[tall dock]

In this case, I only got the jaw bones so for blendshapes like vrc.v. oh the vertices are manipulated directly, right?

[somber sequoia]

there are lots of ways to do this

[tall dock]

Really? So there's more options than posing bones or sculpt mode?

[charred epoch]

I don't know where to ask this, but say that i wanted to throw something with an attached rope, is there a way to get that rope to extend without stretching the texture?

[night ember]

you can just edit them in edit mode

blendshapes only mess with the mesh not the armature

[tall dock]

I would but the problem is that the inside of the mouth is practically sealed and editing blendshapes that barely move the mouth is really complicated

[tall dock]

That I know, but aren't the blendshapes made from moving the bones of the jaw and editing vertices?

[night ember]

moving bones no

[tall dock]

Well posing

[night ember]

no

[tall dock]

Then why does the jaw bone exist?

[night ember]

because you can use that for lipsync?

or expressions

or whatever you want to use it for

blendshapes/visemes are entirely mesh related

has nothing to do with bones

[tall dock]

Ah, that is new

I've never made blendshapes for mmd and lipsync, so I don't know a lot about that exact topic

[night ember]

some models use blendshapes then have the jaw bone connected to your volume so it opens more the louder you are

[somber sequoia]

some models have rigid mouths and so the jaw bone is useful

[night ember]

they are the same as any other blendshape

[tall dock]

Yeah but they're hard to do entirely

[night ember]

about as difficult as any other blendshape

its just a tedious process of moving vertices

[tall dock]

That, yeah

My problem mainly is that when i move the vertices from the outside, inside ones stay the same

[night ember]

you can have the teeth as a separate object to edit them then merge it after
just needs the same EXACT viseme names

[tall dock]

That's why i mostly use sculpt mode but that messes up a bit other parts

[night ember]

then also edit the inside ones

you can select vertices inside a mesh

[tall dock]

In that case it would be better to just move the teeth inside I think, i'll try it though

[tall dock]

Yeah xray mode, i'll try it

I gotta say I am bad at it

[night ember]

its a process

no one is good at it at the start

[upper fiber]

Why are these grayed out

How can I make it usable on quest

[round comet]

is there a way to apply just one shapekey in blender instead of the "apply all shapekeys" option

[somber sequoia]

select the basis shape key, edit the mesh, select which vertices you want to blend, then in the vertex menu, "blend from shape", select the source shape key and how much to apply it.

[upper fiber]

My avatar is below 20k triangles

[somber sequoia]

probably you have not installed the quest build tools

https://creators.vrchat.com/platforms/android/setting-up-unity-for-creating-quest-content

[round comet]

tyty, did it :)

[somber sequoia]

I do this very often, it's easy to make new shape keys from others

(yes there's also "new shape from mix" in the shape key list's menu)

[upper fiber]

so, how do I combine my 4 materials into 1 material?

[somber sequoia]

if you already have textures, bake, atlas, or recreate them. There are lots of tutorials for all methods.
if not, just reassign the material slots to a single one in Blender.

[charred epoch]

Is anyone able to help me?

[arctic ginkgo]

you could try tiling it along the axis it's stretching

[upper fiber]

My brain hurts

[eager thorn]

is there a way i can export my modified avi out of unity as a fbx instead of the original base one?

[charred epoch]

I am trying to do something similar to kais chain blades or kratos's blades of chaos

[upper fiber]

I can't figure it out

[arctic ginkgo]

basically if you know how much it's stretched, you can animate the tiling to stretch equally

this can also be done with a shader

i believe there is a chain shader for this exact thing

https://virtual-boys.booth.pm/items/1320539

[gray zinc]

Viewport different

[upper fiber]

Is this safe
https://github.com/Grim-es/material-combiner-addon

[tulip pasture]

i am missing some of these on the avatar, i was hoping viseames would just work like, this i even asked chatgpt to help with which ones to use and i even filled the empty ones, i cant get the viseames to work ingame, and they reset back to -none- after uplaod

[tulip pasture]

i only have these, cant fill every one

[tidal tendon]

I'm still running into this on 3.8.1 :/

[tulip pasture]

i used cats to generate viseames with those, lemme see if they look good

[gray zinc]

Which part I need weight paint

Only legs arms and hands?

[flat musk]

Hey ho 👋 I see you're looking for commissions.

You will probably receive DM's or friend requests from scammers now (or later) that will try to offer you their services. 😖

🚫 Absolutely DO NOT engage with those, regardless of how competent they might seem or their excuse to why they contact you.
This is unsafe practice used by scammers, and also breaks this Discord's rules. 👮

If you seek a creator, check out VRCTraders and follow their protocols strictly 🥺
(You will get DM from bot to verify your account upon join.)

🌠 It's extremely important to always DEEPLY investigate the account and social media of the person you plan to commission.
Is their social media linked in Discord? Is it legitimate? Are the references stolen? (Try to reverse image search posts to check.) 👀
The quality of fake profiles out there can be crazy good, be aware of that and NEVER engage with DM or friend requests that originate from the artist.

When in the slightest doubt, do not commission them and contact the moderators of the involved communities. 😱

[willow rapids]

Ah..um..okay?

Thanks

:)

[lethal lark]

Hey guys! I have a client who purchased a base from me from a long while back who reached out recently for some troubleshooting issues.

• They can't upload the avatar do to compiler errors
• for some reason the unity vrc builder says the avatar does not have an animator component.
• when i try to upload the avatar on my end i have no problems or issues
• this, as far as i can tell, is the first time this has happened to a client, there have been other bugs in the past but they were resolved years ago

attached is a list of compiler errors for the avatar

Please let me know if you have any ideas or suggestions. I can also answer any questions you may have or can send more images.

[formal prism]

i need help i just started Vrchat but i dont know what kind of avatar to use i want a Wolf thats cool or something like that but i dont know anything?

[patent roost]

Would you like a type of furry avatar or just ear and a tail type of avatar? I do recommend the prismatic world though, you’re able to look up many avatars for free! :))

[formal prism]

yeah a furry and Tail

like something cool and also Cute

[patent roost]

Definitely look up the prismatic world, look up things like “furry” or “wolf boy/girl” you should be able to find some cute skins 😄

[formal prism]

thanku

[patent roost]

Or if you’re more into a e-girl/e-boy type of look, look up e-girl/boy furries it will give you a wild range, I recommend an anime style though, goes adorably with the furry look :))

You can also click randomize and it’ll give you a bunch of options

[left gull]

Prismics and YAAS are good sometimes though generally filled with alot of ripped/pirated/not allowed to be pub models aswell

you could make a post in #1138520828556890214 to find some just be descriptive like what platform,in-game links or paid models etc

[queen isle]

Is there a Unity plugin that organizes shapekeys without needing Blender?

[outer turtle]

Let's say I want to do a radial to control the ears of an avatar. How would you do it, I can't figure it out :/

[ornate stump]

No. But for some specific use, maybe. You should explain what you're trying to do.

[queen isle]

Wanting to move the ordering of Blendshapes around on a model. I was wondering if there was a Unity thing for it instead of going back to Blender for it

[ornate stump]

That is a no then.

[queen isle]

I figured!

[shadow agate]

SDK complains that my avatar isn't set up correctly (non-humanoid avatar, no arms, no feet) but everything is set up correctly

the funny part is that everything was fine like an hour ago so it kinda made this one up

using the reference model's avatar "works" but it still complains that it's non-humanoid

[timid kite]

i wanna make a new material which will copy from "face". but when i click plus it copies eyes. if i move the new material up it doesnt copy face no matter if the position is #1 or #2. help. i already tried tweaking stuff on the second screenshot and renaming materials by alphabet in blender and/or putting head as the last material in the list in blender. none works.

[ornate stump]

Because that isn't how it work. I'm not even sure what you mean to make new material that copies from "face".

[timid kite]

more decal space i can toggle easier

[ornate stump]

Well no. That totally isn't how it work.

[timid kite]

maybe not for you

[ornate stump]

One tri can have only one material. That mean you can't have 2 material assigned to a tri.

[ornate stump]

That's an invalid argument. The system isn't setup for that so that doesn't work for everyone.

[teal laurel]

Multi building my avatar for several platforms makes it build indefinitely and never finish.
Is anyone else experiencing this issue?
-# pls ping on reply ty

[half moth]

This is not entirely true

[half moth]

If you add a new material slot in unity it will always duplicate the last one in the index. You don't get to choose

For this to work the way you want it to (and I wouldn't recommend doing this at all, to be clear), you need to re-arrange the slots in blender and ensure the one you want to duplicate comes in last

[amber pivot]

does anyone know how to set the poiyomi shader outer outline so it looks like the picture on the Left (since the inside outline is diff from the outter outline)? since trying to figure it out comes out wrong (on the right) but it shows up fine in unity.
unless this isnt poiyomi and another shader or something

[ornate stump]

How about increasing outline width?

[gray zinc]

Guys idk why in solid mode and material preview mode color different, when I import on unity it show solid mode

[ornate stump]

Solid mode is just a preview and isn't final result. In unity, it's just lack of material texture or color because it can't translate material from fbx correctly.

[gray zinc]

How do I fix it

Re color in unity?

[junior void]

you make and apply materials in unity

[gray zinc]

Alr thx

[teal field]

the material keepos turning up black and i dont know what the issue is

[amber pivot]

😭 not really what im asking
i want my avatar to have a silhouette outline (like the left pic) but everytime i try, it ends up wrong in the mirror (outlines whole body) or the outline fades out if you stand too far

[ornate stump]

There should be a setting about the width to be fixed or base on camera distance. I have no idea "wrong in the mirror" look like.

[half moth]

what do your shading settings look like?

[teal field]

i think its something to do with the UVs, ill try and come back if it doesnt work

[amber pivot]

wrong as in this

[outer turtle]

does anyone know how to make a body control radial menu? ie. one the taidum avatars have. See video for reference

Im trying using a toggle with vrcfury, but i cant only figure how to make a slider, not a radial

im getting crazy trying to figure this one out

[tidal void]

Simple question!

I want this accessory to follow the avatar's head, so that it remains in place when I move around. I know it will just work if I drop it inside of the Head in the hierarchy, but is there a way to assign it to the head and keeping it where it currently is in the hierarchy? If so, how?

I swear there is a way, I just can't remember how it's done

[outer turtle]

you can use vrcfury armature link

i think thats what you mean

[tidal void]

Isn't there a way to do it without VRCF?

[outer turtle]

no clue, i just use vrcf for convenience

[tidal void]

I see, thanks 🙂

[outer turtle]

any time

[half moth]

To outline only the silhouette you need to use outline stencils. I'm not sure what you're trying to do right now to achieve this, but if you're moving the outline back it may have something to do with the issue you're having

[half moth]

You can place it directly under the head bone in the armature

Or use blender to weight paint it so you can also merge the meshes and materials

[upbeat widget]

You have to do a claim within 3 months I believe

[half moth]

This is correct. Also doing this through your bank is generally a terrible idea unless you're ready to never use a service or store ever again because you will get banned from it. Always go to the service first and treat bank chargeback as a last resort scorched earth option

[supple cloud]

i tried everytime to get the clothes switch and does nothing

[ornate stump]

How did you do it?

[supple cloud]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XqtSg6_W07Y

[ornate stump]

Did you assign the menu in avatar descriptor?

[supple cloud]

ya

i got it working but clothes doesnt show up

[ornate stump]

Try get screenshot full screen instead.

[ornate stump]

Did you assign FX layer in avatar desciptor?

[supple cloud]

yep

[ornate stump]

Screenshot to confirm also.

[ornate stump]

Then provide detail how you did the animator controller. Also screenshot.

[ornate stump]

Screenshot the parameter file next.

[ornate stump]

The expression parameter file.

[supple cloud]

the one with the slider icon?

[ornate stump]

Yes.

[ornate stump]

Parameter name didn't match.

[supple cloud]

oh

there we go i got it fixed

ok now how do i make a sub menu

[ornate stump]

Create another menu file then assign it to submenu control of the main menu file.

[supple cloud]

alr

something like this?

i got it

[wooden shard]

i have a question about face tracking can someone help

[ornate stump]

You should eraborate your question.

[wooden shard]

yes sorry so i want to add face tracking to an avi i bought how do i do that

[snow sandal]

I have a dress with physbones, which I want to collide with my legs, but not my hands. The only place I've found to disable hand colliders is in the Avatar Descriptor. The problem with this method is it removes my hand colliders entirely, and therefore i can no longer interact wit other people's physbones.

tl:dr How does one remove collision for hands on a Physbone, all while being able to interact wit other people's physbones.

[ornate stump]

If your avatar didn't support face tracking by default, then you should find face tracking extension asset for your avatar.

[wooden shard]

oh ok thank you

[tidal void]

My avatar has a couple long earrings that clip through her shoulders when I lean about. What'd be the easiest way to make them collide with the shoulders?

[timber wharf]

add shoulders capsule physbone collider, add it to physbone(s) for earrings, pray

[tidal void]

So, on the earring physbones you have to add the collider you want them to interact with?

[timber wharf]

ye ofc

and not just a collider

physbone collider

[tidal void]

Thanks!

[tidal void]

Exactly where do I tell the earring physbone to interact with said physbone collider?

[timber wharf]

colliders - size more than 0

[tidal void]

Oh!

I see now, thanks. Will try

[sleek zealot]

Experiencing some weirdness with a rotation constraint where if the script is disabled or active is set to off it doesn't reset the object's rotation back to its parent but keeps the offset it last had. Is there something I missed?

[tidal void]

It worked :3 Thanks

[warm junco]

Hello i need some help with making a grable prop in unity i tried looking at a video but it doesnt work can someone help ?

[timber wharf]

whos grable prop

[warm junco]

well its just a prop i want to make it Grabbable prop i tired following this video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eL9JmlpV79g

but it no work..

[timber wharf]

https://github.com/ThatFatKidsMom/Avatar-Prop thats most cross-avatar recommended prop package

[warm junco]

oh okay

[timber wharf]

no idea how it deals with modern vrc constraints but since ive seen nothing broke, just fine

[warm junco]

ill look into it more and give it a try

thank you

[slender grove]

Hello. Can someone help me with my custom animation? I want to make a simple animation of the avatar holding his guitar. I made a new animation and put it in Action layer. Everything is working except the fact that this animation involve the body parts that is not on clip, so the character strikes the default pose (crouching or whatever, you see it on screenshot that is made in play mode with gesture manager). I tried to use masks in various configurations, but nothing seems to help. Does anybody have any idea?

[pseudo basalt]

There isn't really a good way for this cause hand colliders are put in natively and always can interact with any physbone.

You've already mentioned the only solution but also it's flaw

[timber wharf]

@slender grove you need separate pass for this one, check out how defsult anims are done and do same parallel stuff but with different animation override state behaviour

[slender grove]

What's separate pass?

[shut trellis]

Can somebody help me?

[timber wharf]

@slender grove uh, slightly different flow from entry to exit state?

i mean, completely different but mostly the same

[slender grove]

I don't know, i'd like some more specific instruction if that's not that complicated

[timber wharf]

nah, cant do those without pc or unity on hand

[inner sonnet]

I have an avatar who's head is just not moving with the viewpoint vertically and I've genuinely tried everything to fix it but to no avail. The avatar still rotates on yaw and pitch fine. It's purely just the vertical axis

[lethal lark]

Just wanted to bump this to see if anyone had any ideas! :3

[dense fractal]

hello everyone im having a problem with replacing some materials out of a particle system in vrchat quest because theyre grayed out anyone can help please?

here a screenshot of the issue

i basically need to covert this grayed out material into vrchat standard lite material or another mobile material but the slot is just grayed out

[desert elk]

you need to make a new material and assign it to that mesh

you can't edit this material

[dense fractal]

its a particle system though

not literally a mesh

[desert elk]

can you not assign materials to particles?

[dense fractal]

well this is the top half of the particle system

[desert elk]

if you're converting it to quest, you can make a copy of your avatar with Quest Tools and it will automatically convert everything to a quest version

[dense fractal]

and this is the bottom half

[dense fractal]

the thing is that im trying to convert a weapon prefab which if i use vrc quest tools it breaks it

thats the problem

because it has constraints

[somber sequoia]

You can prevent that though - disallow your own default colliders and add back in ones you want to use.

[somber sequoia]

use VRC Constraints

[somber sequoia]

without seeing the first of the errors, there's nothing more we can really say except restart unity, try reinstalling the SDK, maybe try not installing some add-ons you have

[dense fractal]

so should i do the same with the other prefabds with similar structure?

[somber sequoia]

I have no idea what you're working with, just saying that VRC Constraints work on Quest, Unity ones do not, so you'll want to convert those.

[upper fiber]

So, how do I combine multiple materials in Blender? I tried a tutorial but it didn't work.

[timber wharf]

for just albedo https://github.com/Grim-es/material-combiner-addon , otherwise no idea

[somber sequoia]

Bake them, atlas them, or recreate them from scratch

do you have textures already?

[upper fiber]

It's just my Roblox character, so yeah I think.

[somber sequoia]

well if you can recreate textures from scratch, and want to actually do that, this is easy
otherwise yup, atlas them, even if it's manually for any non-albedo textures

[upper fiber]

what are albedo textures?

[somber sequoia]

albedo = base color

[upper fiber]

oh, how can you tell what kind of texture they are?

[somber sequoia]

if it's the texture that gives your avatar color, then it's that one

[upper fiber]

yeah it is

cuz before I imported the texture the model was just grey

[somber sequoia]

the tool that TheLeastMost suggested can atlas those

[upper fiber]

I tried that last night I believe

The python failed to execute

[somber sequoia]

probably for a different blender version than you have

[upper fiber]

I have Blender 2.8

[somber sequoia]

.... why?

[upper fiber]

Idk what version it supports

[somber sequoia]

that's ancient

[upper fiber]

idk, but it let me get this far

[somber sequoia]

okay, well I wouldn't expect many addons to support that anymore. Which is why the "python failed to execute"

[upper fiber]

wait, is there a difference between 2.8 and 2.80?

or are they the same version

[somber sequoia]

no idea, I'm using 4.4

[upper fiber]

oh

also I remember why I switched to 2.8, cuz I had a plugin that wouldn't work

[somber sequoia]

was it cats? there's a version that runs on current blenders now too

[upper fiber]

yeah

but I tried it on 3.2 and it didn't work

[somber sequoia]

you tried the wrong version of cats

[upper fiber]

Oh

where's the most recent version

[somber sequoia]

https://catsblenderplugin.xyz/

[upper fiber]

I'm just gonna update blender rq

[dense fractal]

does anyone know how to convert a a pose into a t pose model in unity

[somber sequoia]

I'd do that in blender.

[dense fractal]

i cannot import the avatar in blender

[somber sequoia]

weird

[half moth]

Yeah that's best done in blender. Why do you need it to be in a t-pose?

[dense fractal]

because

i need to place a gun prefab to it

but doing it in a pose

is a disaster

[somber sequoia]

the pose shouldn't be relevant really

[dense fractal]

it is actually-

cause if the gun is not placed correctly

in the hand

[somber sequoia]

I mean, you'd have to position the constraints/targets correctly either way

[dense fractal]

still

its easier on t pose to do

rather than a pose

which could mess up the positioning of the object

[half moth]

The only real difference is rotating the gun on one axis globally to line it up

[dense fractal]

it really is hard to do in on apose...tho

[upper fiber]

This would explain it

[desert elk]

if you're planning to use cats I highly recommend upgrading your blender and getting the correct cats version for it

i read through some of the messages

[upper fiber]

yeah I'm updating it rn

[desert elk]

3.6 or higher

Is recommended

[somber meadow]

Roblox automatically atlases avatars to save on texture usage, is this an avatar of a player you converted? or are you putting clothes textures on it yourself

[upper fiber]

I'm just updating to the most recent version

[desert elk]

ok

[upper fiber]

it's my avatar from here:
https://www.roblox.com/users/247153982/profile

[pseudo basalt]

when was that added

[somber sequoia]

from the start I think?

huh, it's not on their docs page, that figures. One sec, waiting for Unity to start

yeah fascinating. Under "Allow Collision" you can set it to "other" and uncheck "allow self", then add in your own custom colliders below

this is not listed in the docs on the website.

[upper fiber]

Made an atlas, but I can't change the shader to mobile

I'm tryna do unlit

[somber sequoia]

That material is embedded in the model file, it can't be changed. Make a new one, drag it into the right slot

[upper fiber]

Thanks, don't know why I couldn't figure that one out.

[solemn wyvern]

my eye material is being flipped upside down and I don't know why

[somber sequoia]

Provide some detail, otherwise we're just guessing

[solemn wyvern]

oh wait now I see what happened

somehow it either rotated to the other side of the pupil or is just showing the back face instead of the front

I can just fix it in uv editing I think

[desert elk]

check your normals maybe

[solemn wyvern]

I fixed it!

[lethal lark]

When you say first of the errors what do you mean? Like the errors that appear when you first open the package?

[somber sequoia]

the ones at the top of the console - you're looking for the root cause, many errors in the console are side-effects of a previous error

[wild star]

just want to ask because I'm a bit scatterbrained
coming back to VRC for the first time in like 2 years and like.. I'm confused

is this saying that if I download this sdk file, my old unity uploads will break? or will it only apply to my general uploads after the timeframe?

[somber meadow]

A SDK install doesn't effect anything on VRChat's content servers previously

As recommended though you should use Creator Companion (or ALCOM which has a way better backend)

[wild star]

idk what either of those are
last time I played was like early 2023

(ngl only came back bc someone said about vrchat having webcam tracking for desktop so PC players can swing limbs and I went "oh shit fr?")

[somber meadow]

VRChat moved from using Unity Packages to their own format (VPM) which better supports upgrading and downgrading a lot easier, script creators can also integrate into it

VCC/ALCOM use that format

Think of them as Unity Hub but made for VRChat

[wild star]

ooooooh

well, what about all the unity packages I do have and have bought over the years?

are they now just.. obsolete?

[somber meadow]

Avatars still use Unity Packages

You still use the unity editor

[wild star]

did I just waste £15 on an av- oh

I see

[night ember]

Vcc is just a package manager

All it does is handle the official packages like the vrcsdk so if theres an update rather than manually deleting and reimporting you just update it there abd it does it automatically

[wild star]

I.. don't really get it ngl

[somber meadow]

Hope a screenshot can get the idea

you basically get a list of your packages in Unity Projects you added through ALCOM/VCC, are able to upgrade and downgrade them easily, and integrate 3rd party packages. Nothing much else has changed from the Unity workflow

you're usually just in here for like 10 seconds

[wild star]

..and does this mean I'll need to take up more space on my computer for this and the unity hub?

[somber meadow]

The app doesn't really take up much space

ALCOM binaries are only 26mb

[wild star]

o oki

issue; I have a unity but can't remember where I downloaded it to

[somber meadow]

Do you have Unity hub installed

you can open Unity hub, and open the "Installs" tab and it'll show you the directory of where it is. Make sure it's Unity 2022.3.22, I'm guessing you have a fairly old version

[wild star]

yeah I do .w.

yeesh

2019.4.31 .-.

[desert elk]

that's the old one

not going to work

you will need to download 2022.3.22f1

[wild star]

fair enough. can I just.. upgrade the one I have now?

[desert elk]

https://unity.com/releases/editor/whats-new/2022.3.22

[desert elk]

you will need to install the correct editor, you can uninstall the one you have now

[wild star]

it won't break anything will it? I'm as technologically literate as a grandma .w.

[desert elk]

break what?

[somber meadow]

Unity Projects are saved elsewhere from your editor installs

[wild star]

my projects and stuff

[desert elk]

it shouldn't

[wild star]

so if I was to just
uninstall unity
I'd be fine?

I'm mostly asking bc I don't remember diddly squat on what I did with my older models/avatars, and knowing my luck at least 1 of them is gonna break from using a version that isn't the 2019 one .-.

[somber sequoia]

why don't you do that and start there

[wild star]

✨ paranoia ✨

[somber sequoia]

the other choice is doing nothing, so....

[somber meadow]

Uninstalling an Editor won't delete any projects

VCC supports a "Migrate" option which turns legacy projects into VCC projects

[somber sequoia]

installing a second editor won't affect projects either

[wild star]

hopefully that works then .w.

[somber sequoia]

generally it does