avatar-help

[distant bison]

its still not letting me should i delete vcc and re downlaod it

cuz i redownloaded the right one with andriod

[pine valley]

What isn’t letting you do what?

[distant bison]

and its like this version isnt applying

[distant bison]

switch the build to andriod

this i had to the in unity hub

[trail stump]

anyone knows what this error means and how i can fix this?

[distant bison]

and now im doing vcc and its liek the andriod part isnt there like it didnt update

[pine valley]

it means exactly what it says!

the object this component is on is not attached to an avatar

[trail stump]

i putted on my avi in the hierarchy

[pine valley]

Then you don't have an avatar descriptor on the root object

(or you're in a prefab isolation view, which'll make that error appear)

[trail stump]

its the prefab

my avi works all fine without it

[pine valley]

Are you currently in a prefab isolation view?

if so, that's expected

[trail stump]

yes it is indeed a prefab that u see there

[pine valley]

you won't see the error on the instance of the prefab

[trail stump]

my avi has it

but the asset contains the error

[distant bison]

this is making me mad now

💀

[trail stump]

weird part is for clothing and flashlight assets i had nothing with it

[pine valley]

Put the prefab on your avatar.

Click on the instance of the prefab.

You should not see the error there.

[pine valley]

Did you do anything to uninstall Unity 2022.3.22f1 before you re-installed it through the VCC?

[trail stump]

ehh... it expands the error for the entire prefab

[pine valley]

I don't know what that means.

You will have to show me what happened.

[trail stump]

oki

[distant bison]

i didnt re install it through vcc i did it on unity hub cuz its forcing me to

[pine valley]

what is "its"?

[distant bison]

i added it when i re downloaded the unity version

so idk why the hell vcc isnt really updating with it

which is why im thinking about deleting vcc and re downloading it

[pine valley]

Completely get rid of Unity 2022.3.22f1. The VCC should prompt you to install it afterwards.

If it doesn't, that means you haven't gotten rid of the Unity install.

[trail stump]

@pine valley its in DM's for what expanded

unless its a diffrent error you need

[pine valley]

this is a different error, and it means that those objects simply do not exist

[trail stump]

then idk where it is o.o

[pine valley]

VRCFury will check for objects at a relative path to the Full Controller

If that fails, it'll also check from your avatar root

If both fail, it gives up and gives you that error

(it might also check every other parent, but I'm not sure)

[distant bison]

i uninstalled it from untiy hub its still in vcc

[pine valley]

It sounds like the VCC installed one copy of Unity, and the Hub previously showed you that install

that's why it couldn't add modules to it

then you installed Unity through the Hub, giving you a second copy (one that the Hub could add modules to)

[distant bison]

yea

so what do i do now?

to fix it 😭

[uncut lotus]

So like currently freaking out. My goofy ass, figured that instead of doubling the model, Id hit "save as" in blender, and...Blender....SAVED THE MODEL EARLIER. I was trying to fix the hands, and tried to start a new thing, but it didn't work out, and the old hands are better. I saved the MODEL in BLENDER to a diffrent thing, but I DID remember to dis attatch the Unity avi when I uploaded it. Is there a chance I can get that old avi back???

[trail stump]

i placed the 3d model itself and the asset in it and now t he outline is yellow instead of red

[pine valley]

You can check the .blend1 backup file

It’ll be in the same place as the .blend file

[uncut lotus]

hpw?

This?

Cause it wont open in blender at least

Also, What pose should my VRCAvitars hands be? The vid I was watching, the hands scuffed, these hands had an issue and Im assuming Ima have to just re-model the hands

[pine valley]

you’ll need to rename it to .blend to be able to double click on it

[uncut lotus]

Will I be able to revert or edit change back if I dd?

*do

[pine valley]

it's a completely separate file

just rename to whatever.blend and try opening it

[uncut lotus]

Its the same one

[pine valley]

okay, no dice

blender creates the backup file pretty frequently

[uncut lotus]

Is there a way I can like, pull up the first version of the model uploaded to unity, back up?

Like, I changed the blueprint before saving so in theory, the first Unity will still have the same one, right?

[pine valley]

that'd be delving into asset-ripping territory, unfortunately, which you won't be getting help with here

you should use a version control system so that you can keep track of changes and easily revert them

otherwise this kind of thing will keep happening

[uncut lotus]

Ya, I the future, my goofy ass is def gonna learn to just COPY the model or somehting into a new thing

instead of working on the original one'

[pine valley]

version control lets you work on the same file; you just checkpoint your work each time you finish something

[distant bison]

i fixed it to be able to swich to andriod but it keeps asking me to do this and idk how to do this

[uncut lotus]

Question for the future, If Im working on the hand. I model a finger, and rig it, and weight paint the finger. Is there a way to copy and paste the rigged, ad weight painted finger, and paste it as the other 3 (excluding thumb)

[sacred canyon]

I did a Bool Toggle (for a piece a clothing) and i cant see it in the gesture manager / in game... i dont really know what my mistake is
especially cause i copied the same animator parameters from a successful toggle...

[proper depot]

You can sculpt it out in blender to be more fitted to the body shape! You can also record a blendshape on the body that mades the torso smaller under the clothe sto prevent clipping as well!

[fair kestrel]

Anyone know why I can't pull anything or use Sculpt Mode on these ears? I have no clue what I'm doing wrong
https://youtu.be/qxCfUX8TcwQ

[proper depot]

Hello! Would anyone know why when I am joining multiple armatures in blender, some bones rotate upon joining?

[proper depot]

You are sculpting on the basis but one of the blendshapes are set to 100%, so it wont allow you to sculpt on the basis yeeeee ^^

[fair kestrel]

Yeah we realised that a while ago but changed it to 0 but still no effect. Also, thats only for edit mode. Youc an still make changes to a blendshape while another one is at 100%

[timid kite]

any way to upload avatar thats over 500 mb?

[hollow hemlock]

How can i set nametag position ?

[desert elk]

nope

[desert elk]

it's above your avatar box (I don't remember what it's called)

[desert elk]

make sure to apply all transforms before merging armatures

[hollow hemlock]

I mean not setting in game, my nametag is too high because of this, i want to make it just above my head

[desert elk]

yeah, your box is Hugh up cause of the hands, I don't think you can move it

you'd need to delete the hands to have the box above your head

please, someone correct me if I'm wrong

[hollow hemlock]

Unfortunately thats part of my avatar concept 😢

[proper storm]

why no work what

I am super confused why i cant test the contacts

I never have this issue

still false in the debug

I dont get whats up

actually no contacts are working

at all

inside unity at least

[uncut lotus]

We think the fingers are too long?

[night ember]

Very

[uncut lotus]

thank

[broken glade]

is it possible to copy a layer thats in a animator to different controller?

an entire layer and all its animations / settings

[uncut lotus]

How this?

[night ember]

Better

[uncut lotus]

THANK

whoops

[broken glade]

thumb could use some work

[uncut lotus]

Ight thanks

[night ember]

Your fingers should be able to reach the base of your palm

[uncut lotus]

lright thanks

[proper depot]

Anyone know why when going into play mode and using gesture manager, my avatar goes into the floor nonstop???

[night ember]

You have an animation playing

[proper depot]

ohhhhh that would make sense!! Is there a way to see which animation is actively playing??

[night ember]

The animator

[proper depot]

Thanks!! Fixed.

[grim valley]

i have it so when i smile with FT, ears go up and tail wags, etc with other emotions shown. it works on my end, but literally is only local. others can’t see it. i suspect it’s a local parameter or something that doesn’t update for others but only me (if that’s how that works) , if anybody can give any insight, that’d help.

it’s just an layer in the FX with animations that play if conditions are met.

[night ember]

Make the parameter for it synced or have the animation be synced via a paraneter driver

[uncut lotus]

Any ideas why my weight painting keeps deforming the thumb so horribly? Its happening to like, all the fingers.

[uncut lotus]

Like, it bends perfectly fine in Blender, but in VRChat, its all messed up

[steel niche]

can anyone teach me how to add physics to a avatar? i wanna make hair wiggle but i dont know how to do that! :D

[junior void]

That might be due to bone stripping. Blender does not care how many bones influence any given vertex, but unity strips it down to 4. You could test this by doing that stripping manually in blender in weight paint mode go to weights -> limit total -> set to 4 and see how it deforms then.

and no, you cannot bypass this, you have to work with 4 :P

[uncut lotus]

I found a vid (finally) that says your able to edit the bones in unity while adjusting the rig. It was more so like the bones were pulled into, and pushed away from eachother

[uncut lotus]

I can give you a quick run down

Wait, I can also send the vid I learned from

https://youtu.be/7MDyVTpxW8E?si=v5u58RnlyErrrB-U

25:07

Before that, all you need is a root bone that the bones that will influince the hair, are parented too, and that bone parented to the head

[steel niche]

you do physics in unity!!! holy!

[uncut lotus]

yea, though there area a few prep things, to do in blender first, which is just setting up that root bone

Thats the way I know at least, there may be others, but that way hasn't failed me yet

[steel niche]

i need to look at a tut for that, the weight paint confuses me so much!

[uncut lotus]

For phys bones its not that hard

The vid I sent is part of a like 10 part series, and they go over all that

[steel niche]

ooo!!! ill watch all the videos then!!! thank you so much!!

[spiral torrent]

so i got this error today for my first good rated avi im so confused why tho

so both me and a friend uploaded avis around the same time and we both got security check fails ive never had this happen

[desert elk]

what are the stats of this avatar? mb size?

[spiral torrent]

It wont even let me check that but my friends one on the other hand did the same thing with a diffrent model i have uploaded in the past

[desert elk]

limits have changed. If you could upload it before but can't now, it could just be over the current limit

[spiral torrent]

thats odd since its just a wickerbeast model which is why it doesnt make sense

i use the official prefabs that come with them not sure why it would break

[desert elk]

I don't know what the model is, I could only tell you what could be causing it

that's why I'm asking for stats

[spiral torrent]

i also found out that vrchats creator companion also corrupted my file very sad about that

[desert elk]

how did it corrupt?

[spiral torrent]

probably a vrm issue recently

[desert elk]

wait

vrm?

what does that stand for

in your case

[spiral torrent]

alot of models that have required vrm tend to auto corrupt for me recently dont know why

[desert elk]

if you mean the website, it has ripped models, no wonder you're having problems with it

[spiral torrent]

i use gumroad

[desert elk]

if you mean a file type .vrm you should convert it in blender and not unity

vrchat doesn't accept vrm models but fbx

and unity converters are unreliable

it takes like 5 minutes in blender

to convert a vrm to fbx

yeah

there's even a video somewhere here if you want me to find it

No

No

no advertising gere

here

[spiral torrent]

the only one that properly works that way is all my nardos

[desert elk]

it's totally free and painless if you do it yourself

yes.

no

wait

the "no advertising" was to yoy

you

yes

I do it a lot

it's very easy

and doesn't cost any money at all

???

[desert elk]

I was just saying that in general

[runic moat]

whyyy

[night ember]

That person talks like a scammer or bot

[desert elk]

I agree

seems very fishy

[night ember]

Scammer talk

[desert elk]

Totally

[night ember]

Yes

[desert elk]

that's a scripted response XD

[night ember]

Definitely

[desert elk]

twice the same thing 🤭

alright, nvm, let me go back to homework

[spiral torrent]

btw this is what i meant by vrm

[desert elk]

that's a unity package

no idea why it says vrm

[night ember]

The wickerbeast comes with a vrm?

[desert elk]

if it's from the website or if it has a vrm inside

[spiral torrent]

its really odd yeah

[desert elk]

what's in that unitypackage? 🤔🤔

[night ember]

Can you show the gumroad bought page I wanna see what all the wicker comes with when you buy it since I havent before

Its odd how it comes with a vrm unity package

Cease with these bot responses

[desert elk]

xD

[night ember]

The wickerbeast should just have a regular unity package

[spiral torrent]

to be fair the mayu also used to the same thing which confuses me why

[night ember]

Id still like to see what it comes with since it might have sonething else you are supposed to be using

[spiral torrent]

i do use the offical wickerbeast King

[desert elk]

link it please

[night ember]

this isnt the receipt page

[spiral torrent]

this is what it comes with which isnt very helpful

[night ember]

update and update quest are unity packages

[wraith saffron]

@forest estuary I have a question for you. What is this?

[night ember]

did it not come with a readme or instructions?

[wraith saffron]

This is a question only for @forest estuary btw.

[spiral torrent]

fair enough

[desert elk]

it looks like there's one at the top

[night ember]

it being 6 in the morning with me not having slept isnt helping my perception

[desert elk]

it's okay, I also haven't slept 😭

[wraith saffron]

Same tbh lol

[uncut lotus]

Messin around with this stuff, is there a way to copy one hands rotations, and stuff, to the other HERE? Ive been trying for an hour, and its taking everything in me to not just bash my head into a wall

Ive tried and checked 22 times, and am sooooooooooooooooo close to getting this dooooneeeee

[limber oriole]

what are you wanting to do exactly a animation cause if its like the t-pose for example then just do it in blender with the mirror option turned on

[rain summit]

Is there any way to fix this other than "give up on having a moon" ?

[uncut lotus]

hit autofix

[uncut lotus]

so, I was having an issue with the fingers clipping into eachother. A vid said this was the issue, and it worked, but I wasnt sure if there was some sorta...mirror or symatrizing took thing, so I didnt have to do each hand

[limber oriole]

ow there is in blender but not unity

it will mimic what you do on 1 hand onto the other one

[uncut lotus]

ughhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

I knew there was on Blender

[limber oriole]

its the butterfly looking icon

[uncut lotus]

I spent the entire day yesterday in blender thinking it was a blender issue (I mean, it technically was, but this woulda been faster)

Man, I hate doin anything in Unity. Anyways, eep

[limber oriole]

lol fair

but yuh if its bones then its always blender

[rain summit]

Autofix fixes it by stripping out the orbital mechanic which was kind of the point of the thing.

...maybe I can fake it with an animation instead!

[ornate stump]

Do it with animation.

[pine valley]

You can't have any custom components on your avatar.

You can totally create an orbital motion with an animation, though

[rain summit]

Yurp! I'm hammering at that now, think I've got the hang of it. :3

Gosh this is so much FUN

[pine valley]

(and if you're so inclined, you can write custom components that generate animations as the avatar is built)

everything is done in the animator, and the animator can do...a surprising amount of stuff

[rain summit]

Oooooh

[pine valley]

VRCFury can handle merging animator controllers/menus/etc. together

so I write code that generates those assets, and then I throw them at Fury

it's a remarkably nice workflow

[balmy barn]

can use random orbit/sender that collide with other avatars and change stuff/sound ect

Vrcfury is fun when something break and people who never made a simple toggle have no idea why , id never recommend it if you dont know the basic stuff and using multiple conditions

[rain summit]

I'm guessing the random/collider flavor involves physbones?

[balmy barn]

reciver contact bump into something or just a timer do a random roll using parameter driver

[shut oxide]

hello im almost done with my first vrcaht avatar but i have two problems left that idk how to fix for sum reason the view point in vrchat ends up inside the head of the avatar seeing in the insides of my neck even though its obviously far from the head in unity + the physbone colider works in unity but its doesnt in vr chat so the hair ends up clipping into the head

[raw spindle]

how do i fix this?

[balmy barn]

create a cube in unity near your av that is 1.1.1m compare to your av wich seems to be gigantic

some prefabs/stuff also make bounds extremely big

[raw spindle]

the av is literally the same size as a 1,1,1 cube

[ornate stump]

You will have to check every object you added.

[raw spindle]

i have checked every mesh, it may be the bottle of stars seeing as it adds a giant sphere around me

[ornate stump]

Literally that.

[raw spindle]

welp i checked it, it isnt for some odd reason it isnt

[ornate stump]

Then that likely wasn't the largest object.

[raw spindle]

ive check all the others, it isnt any of them

[ornate stump]

Also skinned mesh renderer?

[raw spindle]

ye most are skinned mesh renderers

and the ones that arent ive moved out of the avatar and refreshed the SDK and its still saying that

[ornate stump]

Have you checked the bounds on them? Screenshot some of it.

[raw spindle]

nah, ive fixed it, it was something that wasnt supposed to be on the avatar lol

[shut oxide]

Help plz

[ornate stump]

Make sure that avatar root object is at zero position.

[shut oxide]

It is

[untold quail]

is there anyway i can make a 2 different toggles change the aspect of the same thing on a material

eg. i have a hue shift slider and a hue toggle slider

but they both edit the colors of the emission

[somber sequoia]

sure, you'll just have to work out the logic for what you want them to do

[pine valley]

what would the "hue toggle slider" do?

[untold quail]

i figured it out nw

[void kettle]

Okay I’m on blender and I have clothes I fit on a model and when I play as the avatar in vrchat the clothes are not rigged with the model, how do I fix this?

[pine valley]

so, in Blender, you have three objects:

• the Armature
• the Body
• the Clothes

and both the Body and Clothes objects have Armature modifiers?

and, if so, does moving bones in Blender cause the clothes to deform properly?

[void kettle]

Yea, you can see its body and the clothes just move away

Here a example of what it does

[pine valley]

I'm asking what it does in Blender.

Does the clothing move correctly?

[void kettle]

Ohh!

Like if I move the arm up?

[pine valley]

Yes. Move anything in Pose Mode.

[void kettle]

I don’t know how to do that 😭

[pine valley]

you rigged the clothing in Blender but you don't know how to pose an armature...?

i might be misunderstanding what you've done

[void kettle]

No the clothes I bought on payhip

And it had the armature

[pine valley]

And they're designed for your avatar base?

[void kettle]

No

[pine valley]

So you have two model files. One contains the body and its armature. Another contains the clothing and its armature.

Is that correct?

[void kettle]

Yes

[pine valley]

You can try using VRCFury's Armature Link component to merge the clothing's armature into your body's armature

[void kettle]

Is that something I have to add or if click the vrcfury button it’s in there?

[pine valley]

VRCFury is a third-party package.

https://vrcfury.com

[void kettle]

I have it in Unity but it’s in the button on the top righg?

Right*

[pine valley]

i don't know what "top right" would be here

[void kettle]

On tools

In*

[pine valley]

there are some settings in there, but you'd be attaching an Armature Link component to the clothing object

[void kettle]

Where’s that at? 😭

[pine valley]

Show me your hierarchy.

[pine valley]

Did you import both models into Blender and then export a single FBX...?

[void kettle]

It’s just all together

[pine valley]

I don't see anything here that looks like clothing

[void kettle]

One sec

[gleaming elbow]

I’m looking for an vr chat avatar for my iron man sona but I don’t have money to pay you

[pine valley]

It looks like you parented some objects to the Base object

By itself, that isn't going to do anything

[void kettle]

Oh

[pine valley]

It's hard for me to guess exactly what you did in Blender

If the avatar and the clothing have matching armatures, you can use VRCFury's Armature Link to connect the clothing to the body in Unity

without any modifications to either model file

[void kettle]

I can move them in blender but where would I put them at

[somber sequoia]

I'd suggest looking for a free or public one, perhaps in #1138520828556890214 or a search world.

[gleaming elbow]

Like I want one of my own

[somber sequoia]

that most certainly requires paying someone, or learning how to do it yourself.

[gleaming elbow]

But I don’t have a pc

To make an avatar

[void kettle]

Do you have a Chromebook?

[wicked fulcrum]

i need help im having a problem where everytime i upload an avatar im making to quest and spesifically just quest it breaks and says like security checks failed and the profile is blurred out with an X right next to the pc and quest symbols

i have no idea how to fix it

it happened on one of my older avatars too but this time it was on pc

thats how it like looks

[pine valley]

There are some issues that will successfully upload, but then fail the server-side security checks

e.g. #development-advanced message

It's hard to read the entrails and figure out what's going on

[wicked fulcrum]

how do i fix it/ get it to work tho because i see stuff abt constraints but the only constraint i have is a parent constratint thats about it

i dont know anything about scripts or whatever is there

[lucid rapids]

Hello , is there a way to remove this earing in unity without do it in blender ( the earing integrated with the body ) ?

[desert elk]

I think for PC you could just edit the texture to be transparent
For Quest no

[wicked fulcrum]

nvm fixed

[fallen cobalt]

Yeah there’s no easy way to completely remove only part of a mesh in Unity, only if it’s a separate object

[pine valley]

yeah, Unity isn't a mesh editor

it's possible to modify imported meshes, but you have to reinvent the wheel

[frail temple]

Quick question, how do you merge two bones? a game model i've imported has multiple bones in the same spot with different weight painting data and parents, how do i merge two bones into one single bone while combining the weight painting data?

[desert elk]

cats can do it

[frail temple]

Example:

[desert elk]

edit mode, select one bone, shift click a different bone, pick optimization > bones > merge weights > to active

[frail temple]

Lovely, thank you! cats slipped my mind completely lol

[forest garden]

Can someone help me figure out why my texture doesn't work with emission? I'm trying to make a glowing tattoo for my avatar, but it's not working. I tried using a black background and no background, but I still get this problem. I looked for videos about it, but I couldn't find anyone having the same issue.

[somber sequoia]

the emission map texture should be sRGB as it's color.

the emission color in the mask should be white for what you want to emit, and black for what you don't. If you want to emit on the whole material it should be all white

Also that color slot gets multipled with the map color, so black is going to be no emission

details about all of these things are here: https://www.poiyomi.com/special-fx/emission

[forest garden]

Oh ok ty!

[halcyon vale]

I scaled my avatar up on unity and now the feet goes abit underground, I already made sure that the avatar position is the same as it was before but it still goes under the floor in game, any ideas?

[somber sequoia]

think of mask as where to emit, and map as what and where to emit

(it can be a bit more complex when you start manipulating those, but it's a basic starting point)

[forest garden]

Got it ill try again now

[frail temple]

Go into the Rig and move up the hips until they meet the line

Hold up i'll send you a picture

@halcyon vale Go into Rig

Then Configure

Move the hips bone up until your avatar's feet bones hit the line

[halcyon vale]

its already aligned

[lucid rapids]

Sos ?

[vital mural]

How do I only move this part of the hair? When I mess with the bones it only moves the tips but not like the 'base' unless I move the entire thing

[arctic ginkgo]

there's an addon that can do that, but it only works on one mesh at a time

https://github.com/TayouVR/Blender_merge-bones

[proper storm]

how would the animator work to disable a type of clothes when you enable new one

without using int

like from hoodie -> shirt toggle other off

im assuming using drivers but I have no clue

[somber sequoia]

vrc avatar parameter driver

[stoic radish]

Hello! I've been trying to set an avatar as a fallback, when i'm going to build for Windows, it says that it's all good for being a fallback and that i gotta switch to Android, but when i switch to Android it just says it isn't.

[plain wagon]

Anyone know how to fix this? It doesn't want to follow the rest of the body even if it's inside the armature.

[stoic radish]

Oh hi 0P4 lol, good luck fixing that ;-;

[plain wagon]

Hi MIP, how you're doing? uwu

Fancy seeing you there!

[stoic radish]

Doing fine didn't think of seeing you here lmao

[plain wagon]

I'M IN YOUR WALLS.

[stoic radish]

i'm just trying to put a damn fallback

[plain wagon]

The avatar making part is pure pain.

[stoic radish]

The avatar is literally amazing on desktop and good on both IOS and Android

[left gull]

looks like a weightpaint or parenting issue

[ashen crane]

very quick question, are emissions on standard lite still broken?

[timber wharf]

it should be excellent on both. and excellent on pc is not same as quest

oh wait or was it good?

ye Good should be fine as well...

[chilly crown]

I need some help with my model, when I change the blendshape in unity it goes ok, even the avatar loading in vrchat shows it but the in game model didn't change at all

[errant aurora]

Does anyone how to put spawn audio on avatar? I know they're obnoxious and most of "those" audios are cringey, of course I wanna do so respectfully. Any ideas?

[raw glen]

anyone got a good video on how to use poiyomi dissolve feature as clothes toggle?

[indigo compass]

Shouldn't be, pretty sure that was fixed at least months ago.

[willow carbon]

camera focus is not working for one of my hairstyles.
any idea on how to fix?

this is the rendering mode

[willow carbon]

solved

It seems that the default camera blurs the parts that exceed Render queue 2400.

My hairstyle was render queue 2900.

[queen isle]

I have a model where I have one toggle that when I turn it on, it constantly stays on and the menu doesn't even show the repeating circle of turning it on (yes it is on a toggle). Only way to fix this issue is to reset model. What can I do to fix this issue in Unity?

[wild needle]

im having this error and I dont know how to fix it and I would like to know how

[somber meadow]

you have a mesh named head, rename it in blender

[wild needle]

oh ok

ty

[willow carbon]

can you show me how you have the animator running

[queen isle]

Let me record a video real quick!

[willow carbon]

okay

i'll show you how i usually have my toggles set

lemme finish uploading avatar rq

[queen heron]

I have a weird problem. I'm changing the hand gestures on my avi, but when I load into play mode, they get combined into vrcfury and I can't use them

[queen isle]

I hope this shows enough!

[willow carbon]

hmm i see

this is usually how i work my toggles

(i use a plugin usually)

im not goated at anims so my advice wouldnt work

but feel free to try the same setup

[queen isle]

I'll give it a try

It keeps looping and staying stuck on the animation same as before

[willow carbon]

can you show me the menu?

like the parameter

[queen isle]

This?

[willow carbon]

yeah

hmm...

[queen isle]

Every other toggle works which is why I'm baffled

[somber meadow]

Do you have the same write defaults value for every state in your FX animator

[willow carbon]

oh

odd

yeah could be WD

[queen isle]

I'm checking WD right now but they're all on.

[somber meadow]

Disable "Can transition to self" to the transition exiting Any State, it'll cause performance issues if you have that on. It'll execute every frame

[somber meadow]

Do you use VRCFury with this avatar?

[queen isle]

Nope!

[somber meadow]

You could either use VRCFury or use VRLab's Avatar 3.0 Manager to make sure all your states use the WD state

if there's one that's not the same value the whole animator will break

[queen isle]

I doubled checked and all WD are checkmarked? Every other toggle works with this exception of this one in particular

So in Gesture manager it's busted but in play mode it's fine if I turn it on in the parameter itself

[somber meadow]

is there anything else in the animator that animates the thing you're toggling

[queen isle]

This just toggles it on. Other stuff just changes how it looks in the material.

I'll definitely check out VRLab

I fixed the issue by swapping the animations around???? What? All I did was change the animation of it spawning in with the change animation and only changed the name in the menu.

[lusty wyvern]

Hello, I have been having this Physbones issue, where going into playmode, inside the scene my Phys bones "freeze up" and dont work anymore. I'm not sure what would be best method to fix it, if you know how to fix it, please let me know. This issue has been driving me nuts.

Things to note:

1. This issue just suddenly started happening, it wasn't happening earlier. I went into playmode to test my Phys bones settings for my wings (since im still setting them up) and they "froze" even though they were working earlier

2. I sent the package to my friend and they tested it, and it works fine on their end, they cant recreate the issue I am having

3. I opened 2 fresh new projects to test my model in, and in both projects the "Phys bones freezing up" was happening the same way as the original project that has the issue.

4. I uninstalled, and reinstalled unity, unity hub, vcc and have the newest versions for all of them.

5. I have attached a photo of the console for your reff, and I have a video as well, let me know if you need me to send that.

---

If you know how to fix these issues, please ping / dm me I would love to get your help on this. ❤️ thank you in advance

[lusty wyvern]

sorry for the super long text, I been wanting to get this issue fixed and have no idea how to solve it x.x

[dreamy warren]

Where do i start when making my first avatar?

[novel charm]

is there a known bug atm where newly made avatars dont have working viseme? i have all the shit setup in unity and blender but mouth doesnt move at all ingame

[pine valley]

https://creators.vrchat.com/avatars/ the Creator docs explain quite a bit

[pine valley]

No. Show how your Avatar Descriptor is configured.

[errant aurora]

bump

[pine valley]

Do you have a separate head mesh?

[novel charm]

nope

[pine valley]

and if you go to the Body object and mess with its blendshapes, you see the correct facial movements?

[novel charm]

yup

[proper storm]

why is why constraint so far from my target pos?

havent figured this out yet

I copied my old constraints another porject, didnt work

exact same layout with weights and parent/child setup too

nvm

I had a world parent constraint in it too, that might fix it

[spare lantern]

cant upload to quest cause the options are greyed out
anyone know how to fix it

[somber meadow]

Press Ctrl + Shift + B, select the android tab, and follow the instructions on to installing the android build module.

[dreamy warren]

kk thxx

[spare lantern]

thank you now one thoer question. are any of the mobile vrchat shaders able ta do transparency?

[somber meadow]

no, as it's really expensive to run on mobile hardware

[frigid void]

is there a way to make that shape thats in the hips, i just used 3 flat cylinders but i dont like how it looks (the two small shapes in the back are the hip bones theyre not part of it)

[errant aurora]

So for some reason no one is able to hear my audio but I can

idk if it's something I messed with or what

[stray saffron]

Is it possible to have normal maps on a slider? (mostly thinking of something to accompany a muscle body morph)

[somber meadow]

What shader?

Most custom shaders have a normal intensity slider

[stray saffron]

Oh god I dunno, probably the default?

[arctic ginkgo]

depends on the shader, but for standard you can use detail normal map value

applies for standard lite too, which is quest compatible

[stray saffron]

Im in the wierd place where I am quite experienced in 3d modeling/texturing, but I know next to nothing else

[novel charm]

anyone else able to add vrcfury to the dumb vrc CC?

[somber meadow]

https://vrcfury.com/download/

[novel charm]

ya i did that but when i click add it doesnt do anything

[somber meadow]

are you trying to add it to VCC or is it already in your repo list and you're adding it to a project within VCC

[novel charm]

vcc itself

[somber meadow]

screenshot your repositories in your settings on VCC

[somber meadow]

clicking the hyperlink doesn't do anything?

[novel charm]

it opens VCC but it wont add the thing either

[somber meadow]

Make sure VCC is up to date (update button on the bottom left if it isn't. If updating doesn't work or you don't have an update rename or delete settings.json in %localappdata%\VRChatCreatorCompanion. Your project list and repos will reset however but you can add your projects back through the “add from disk” button next to the new project button.

[novel charm]

it is up to date

[west cipher]

material is transparent but the inside of the avi is black rather than see through, any idea how to fix?

[frail temple]

Cull : Off

i think.....

[west cipher]

backface is definitely off

[west kestrel]

okie, so im working on a avi and unity says that there are 50 vertices that are unweighted. but i cannot for the life of me find them, ive combed it 3 full times, i dont know any good way of finding them, and honestly just need help on the idea of finding them?

[somber sequoia]

culling only affects the material it's on, are you trying to make something behind the material also transparent?

[west cipher]

yes, the actual mesh of the avi

[somber sequoia]

this is where it gets fun. #shaders is a good place to ask, there are a few ways to do this

[west cipher]

alrighty, off i go

[prisma thunder]

I need help with these things so I can make my avatar good rated

• Combine Skinned Meshes (Ctrl + J messes things up sometimes)
• Combine Meshes
• Atlas Textures
• Combine Material Slots

Any optimization tips are appreciated

PLEASE do ping me if ya have tips, otherwise I won't see it. Thanks!

[dusty monolith]

anyone know how to make my mouth close on this eye look thing? its only on the up and down look. it turns on a blendshape

[somber sequoia]

check below the image there, the eyelid blendshapes

[mighty stream]

How do I properly move my avatar upwards so heels don't clip through the floor? I've tried moving the hip bone up in unity's rig configuration screen, but that seems to desync the view ball and requires me to move it way above my head.

[night ember]

Well of course moving the bone up in the rigging window will move it up

Youd need to also move it up the same in the scene

[frigid void]

im trying to sculpt but idk what this is

[night ember]

Dont have a viseme selected

[frigid void]

i have nothing selected

its normal on the sleeves but not anywhere else

[ornate stump]

That means you have to make sure that you select Basis shapekey rather, or make sure shapekey you selected has value set.

[frigid void]

im not making a shapekey, im just sculpting it to fit the body

[ornate stump]

That doesn't mean that the cloth doesn't have shapekey and you still might be selecting a zero value shapekey.

[frigid void]

it doesn’t have any shapekeys. I did try making a basis and a new shapekey with the value set to 1, but it does the same thing

[ornate stump]

Then you might have to try apply transform for all object.

[uncut lotus]

so like....the black parts of the eyes are supposed to stay with the eyes, but for some reason, it floats away from the head whe you look down, and goes back when they eyes move

[willow carbon]

glad u found a solution somehow

unity moment ☠️

[cosmic pulsar]

anyone know how to fix the eyebrow?

[ornate stump]

Change material render preset to transparent or cutout.

[cosmic pulsar]

eyebrow is part of the head texture so if i do that the head will be transparent too

[ornate stump]

Then use Cutout.

[kind frigate]

I made this avatar in unity and uploaded it, but for some reason whenever I move my head the whole avatar moves with it.

[ornate stump]

Probably you didn't position your model correctly.

[kind frigate]

How is it supposed to be positioned to fix this?

[desert elk]

0.0.0 - aka world origin

[ornate stump]

It's still lack the info how you actually want to position it.

[desert elk]

and this is a very weird issue

I don't think I've ever seen it before

[kind frigate]

I just looked and it was positioned quite far from world origin

Thank you very much, that fixed it

[desert elk]

great 👍

[cosmic pulsar]

can anyone help me fix the eyebrow? the texture of it is on the head so the head will go transparent if i set the mat to particles

[ornate stump]

Mobile shader on only be opaque. That means your eyebrow won't work on quest.

[cosmic pulsar]

ah ok

[kind frigate]

I need help figuring out what's causing my avatars face to deform whenever I look around.

[ornate stump]

Did you edit in blender?

[kind frigate]

All I did was export the blender file to unity

[ornate stump]

Did you also test with pose mode in blender?

[desert elk]

yeah, cause it looks like a weight painting issue

[kind frigate]

I didnt test any of that, but I can go look at the weight paint

[ornate stump]

It's likely to be weight paint.

[kind frigate]

heres what it looks like

[ornate stump]

And you also tested in pose mode?

[kind frigate]

Where do i find pose mode?

[ornate stump]

Select the armature object, switch mode.

[kind frigate]

okay I found it, here's what it looks like

[desert elk]

move the bones around

see if the face deforms

it probably will

you'll need to fix the weight painting if that's the case

[kind frigate]

It does

Do I just color the parts of the head that weren't red and make them red?

[desert elk]

see here you have blue spots on the head, they need to be red

[desert elk]

yes

[kind frigate]

Alright I've done that, now is there a way to automatically update the unity model with the blender model or is that not possible?

[desert elk]

if you didn't unpack the prefab you can override the fbx

open the unity assets in explorer, name the new avatar the same name as the old one and drag it in. Pick the override/switch option

[kind frigate]

Okay thanks!

[vocal dew]

Hey so I was wondering if someone can tell me how I can make a skin texture like this? I use ibspaint to make textures but I wanna try realism Like how the photo shows. Sorry if I’m not being clear with words lol but if someone can help me that would be great

[ornate stump]

It's pretty much painting highlight and shadow.

[vocal dew]

Yea I know but I’m trying to find out how to do it lol

[ornate stump]

You might have to find art course for that.

[bleak kite]

heyoo, im trying to set up unity and vrcc to learn how to make Avis and when connecting vrcc to unity it says “version already exists” im downloading the right version and manually getting the location because vrcc isnt finding it anywhere, not sure what to do

[pastel barn]

would someone be able to teach me how to make it so my avatar can wear both flat foot shoes and heels? i'm not really sure how to go about it all so that it works properly in game

[fallow gulch]

There isn't a proper, full solution for this
You can get a half way solution
If you want flat shoes, then the avi can be placed closer to the ground, so taking them off wouldn't be an issue
For heels, you'd want the avi to be further from the ground, as it makes sense
But if you want both, then you'll have to come up with a compromise, where the avatar's high heels sink into the ground a bit, and looks mostly fine with flat shoes too. Just a little bit of floating

[pastel barn]

ohh okay i see. I have an avatar already though that I've bought and when you take of the heels, the feet are flat, and when the heels are on they aren't in the ground?

[desert elk]

i did it by switching out the mesh of the feet as well. The hight of the model doesn't change, but nothing clips or floats

[desert elk]

blendshape maybe?

[fallow gulch]

Yeah, that's possible.. or a blendshape
Either way, you need some hacky solution

But honestly, good idea

[pastel barn]

i only downloaded blender/unity the other day so i'm still very new to all this 😭 could i maybe send one of u the avatar to check how they made the feet work like that and then maybe u could explain it to me? cus this is the one thing i'm really having an issue with rn and idk what to do :c

[desert elk]

if it's a bought avatar it's most likely against tos of the creator

[fallow gulch]

Now I'm kinda curious about what they have done to the avi

[desert elk]

and if you wanna make it yourself you should learn how

check the blendshape list yourself

[pastel barn]

well yeah i wanna learn how haha but idk how to do it like that

like i said i've only been doing this for a few days so i don't really know how to learn it and there aren't any tutorials online that i can find

[fallow gulch]

Yeah.. the lack of up to date, high quality tutorials is one issue
The other issue is that people have very specific things they want to do
So there would have to be a ton of tutorials for all the different things

[desert elk]

yeah, i agree

[fallow gulch]

Or... there would have to be a series that gives viewers a strong base knowledge to rely upon, encouraging critical thinking (would be cool)

But ofc... you can only think like that, if you have knowledge

[desert elk]

people don't really do that though

i mean

not everyone likes doing that

[fallow gulch]

Yeah, sadly.. but it is what it is

[pastel barn]

how would i go about figuring out how they've made the feet/shoes work? would i be able to screenshare to one of u perhaps and u could explain to me?

[desert elk]

open the model in unity

click on the mesh of the feet/shoes

and check the blendshape list in the inspector

if there is a blendshape for the feet shape

you will know that it was made with blendshapes

[pastel barn]

how does the blendshape adjust the whole avatar's height though when the heels are on/off?

[desert elk]

you didn't mention it changing height

at least i don't remember it

from what i know the view point is fixed to one spot and can't be moved (i could be wrong)

[fallow gulch]

Maybe it does some funny pose space shenanigans

[pastel barn]

actually i'll have to double check, maybe the height doesn't change. but then i'm confused how the feet go from flat to heeled 😭

[fallow gulch]

But that wouldn't work for FBT use

[gleaming hatch]

Weird and wild question since I'm making a home world tied to a massive open world project I'm working on can I make avatars trigger anything in a world? I.e.
If avatar x has a colider trigger labeled 1 and the map needs a colider named 1 to trigger animation ( swapping out what model does an NPC role) is this possible? I wanna have my 2 personal avatars be on the map and if I'm in that model it disabledls the map NPC version so they ain't hanging out and a double ganger is present

[timber wharf]

@gleaming hatch cant access avatar's stuff from world, its protected. only quirky stuff people do is calculate distance/proportions between bones via tracking data, thats how some furry world allows flying base to fly or smth for example

[gleaming hatch]

Hmm dern I was hoping only to have certain avatars trigger a world animation somehow

[vocal dew]

Hey I need help with smth I tired to add this texture to the head in blender but it won’t work if someone can help me lol

[fallow gulch]

I heard that they check the "Last Bone", since that is something you can query

Not sure what they do with it
Do they check scale? Rotation? Position? Who knows...

[gleaming hatch]

Can you elaborate?

[fallow gulch]

Yeah, you can check the Humanoid bones from the tracking data on an avatar
You can access stuff like "Head", "Chest", "Hips", but there is also an option, called "Last Bone"

I assume this is the bone that comes out to be the last, when Unity is indexing the bones for Humanoid avatars

This would mean that you can use the LastBone to detect what kind of avatar someone is wearing, as long as they haven't modified the armature

[vocal dew]

^

[gleaming hatch]

Hmm and this is how I can potentially set a world trigger?

[fallow gulch]

It is a way I suppose
If it is your avatar, then you can definitely check this data with Udon, to figure out what kind of values you can expect

[gleaming hatch]

Hmmm thanks for the guidance I'll let ya know how it works out

[fallow gulch]

Looking forward to it, as I haven't done this myself before hehe

[gleaming hatch]

Most definitely, I'm still learning the udon stuff but I've been tutored on world creation and I think with this I can try expanding my tool box

[fallow gulch]

What you're making sounds like a fun idea ngl

[gleaming hatch]

Give me a sec to take screen shots

[vocal dew]

Can someone help me lol

[gleaming hatch]

@fallow gulch

[timber wharf]

as i said, at least example as i understood, they measure ratio between some humanoid bones since same furry base would have the same distance ratio between two bone groups like idk, upper arm length to spine length, regardless of avi scaling

[fallow gulch]

Yeah, this might be the way

[gleaming hatch]

I'll need some documentation if there is any to replicate

[fallow gulch]

What doesn't work correctly about it?

[vocal dew]

Idk if that makes sense lol

[vocal dew]

I put the image in the texture uv and it just stretches it out and doesn’t show on the model and I can’t move the image around

[fallow gulch]

Because you gotta move the UV around on the image
That is how you can fit it
At least that is one way

[vocal dew]

What’s another way

[vocal dew]

Cause even if the image is there it won’t show

And even if I do move the uv it won’t not be stretched out

[ornate stump]

The UV you show doesn't have any part occupied that red area though.

[proper depot]

Hello! I am trying to do audiolink work but for some reason the audiolink prefab wont work :00? I have an active camera, and active avatar and the object is on the avatar, I tried reinstalling into the scene too and still cant seem to get it to work, has anyone experienced this/is there a simple fix??

😅

feel like its something silly xD

[somber sequoia]

you mean the test prefab in Unity, right?

[proper depot]

yes!

[somber sequoia]

For one thing, you don't put that on the avatar, just put it in the scene.

[proper depot]

yeee its in the scene

[somber sequoia]

Also - are you using Linux?

[proper depot]

no i am not

the audiolink is just put in the scene

I have an active camera as well

the prefab works but just seems to not load the audio

sorry if i sound dumb xDD

Its always somethin super simple i overlooked LOL

[somber sequoia]

ok. If you expand that you'll find two objects, one is a youtube player, the other is just an audiofile player. The youtube one relies on yt-dlp, which often has issues, you could try deleting that and then putting an audiofile into the audio player.

(which is what we have to do on linux)

and yes, I had to actually delete the youtube player object, just disabling it wasn't enough

[proper depot]

THANK YOU

[somber sequoia]

works?

[proper depot]

That works!!!!!
thanks you saved me a headache and a half 😭

[somber sequoia]

excellent

yeah you can try to update your local copy of yt-dlp also, sometimes that works too

[proper depot]

yeahhhh I was hoping i wouldnt have to and i have audio file so ill just stick with that for now, seriously thanks!! I hope you have a wonderful day dude!

[lavish obsidian]

i don't understand why even i did parenting them together but mesh doesn't follow the bone

[lavish obsidian]

its just happens when im turn it into an fbx file

[somber sequoia]

is there an armature modifier on that mesh? Is it weight painted?

[lavish obsidian]

mesh was weight painted but im guessing i didn't make the armature modifier im just new bout rigging 😅

[radiant tree]

For unity experts, is there a setting to make lower quality textures pop so they're not blurred, like ps2 textures for an example, or PSX styled character Textures?

[balmy barn]

enable these or it get really blurry

(power of 2 sometime not needed)

[radiant tree]

Thank you!

[outer meteor]

is it allowed to commission avatars or is that against the law? just wanted to clarify to be 100% sure

[left gull]

err getting commissions from people here isnt allowed but they arent illegal unless you're getting pre-existing content edited for your commission which then it'd depend on the models/creator's rules

[shadow marsh]

does anyone know why audiolink in the unity scene will just not load a youtube video?
i tried re-adding the prefab, changing versions, etc but when in play mode on an avatar scene it just doesnt load any audio (but shaders react that there is in-fact audiolink in the scene

when i open the prefab scene (which is a world prefab) it loads just fine and plays as soon as i click play

[somber sequoia]

yeah because it relies on yt-dlp and sometimes that needs an update to properly pull youtube videos

I just switch to using a local audio file, details here: #avatar-help message

[broken glade]

I have this belt which has its own bones for some dangley bits, it wasn't made for my model; but I've sculpted it to fit now. How do I attach this armature to my main armature ?

Do I just merge the armature with cats?

i've deleted all the bones that was in it expect the legs, hips and the dangley bits

[pine valley]

If it just needs to be attached to your hips, you don't need any tools at all

parent the entire object to your hip bone in Unity

If it needs to actual deform along with your model, it's more complicated

ah, does it have hip and leg bones in there?

in that case, you can use VRCFury's Aramture Link to attach the belt to your avatar non-destructively.

I prefer that over making permanent changes to the avatar's armature

[balmy barn]

+1 mesh lazy detected , merge in blender attach bone to some other one weight trainsfer if it need to bend

bounding boxes are fun

[desert elk]

if you're already using blender just merge it in blender

that's my opinion

[pine valley]

I try to do as much as possible non-destructively

but yes, merging it with CATS is also fine

[broken glade]

merging it with cats doesnt work it destroys it when i pose it around

its added the legs bones as extras and not merged them

[round comet]

What are the lil bones parented to? Just merge the armatures by hand and parent the according bones

[naive quartz]

would anybody happen to know why my idle animation only tracks once crouching or jumping?

[broken glade]

wont let me

greyd out

[balmy barn]

armatures actually merged ?

[round comet]

You can parent it in the lil sidebar. Doesn’t have to be in the scene btw lol

[broken glade]

yeah idk

[pine valley]

I always forget which order to join objects in -- meshes, then armatures, or armatures, then meshes?

[broken glade]

is there a vc I can share screen in

[pine valley]

the vertex groups on the merged-in mesh need to be renamed to match the names of the bones on the merged-in armature

I've written a number of scripts for automatically generating and merging meshes+armatures and I still forget, haha

[round comet]

There is no vc since they’re harder to moderate

[arctic ginkgo]

make sure any shared bones (hips, legs, etc) are named the same on your belt's armature as they are on your avatar's armature. You can delete these bones from the belt's armature now.

Next, you can either add a new bone ("root" bone) to your belt's armature and parent all the other bones to it (this is more optimized since it allows you to use only one component in unity for physbones on the belt) or keep it the way it is

Now select this armature and shift+left click to select the main armature. Press ctrl+j to join the armatures togther, and then go into edit mode.

• If you added a "root" bone, then parent that bone to the hips: elect it, then select the hip bone and press ctrl+p and "keep offset"
• If you did not add a "root" bone then select the first bone in each chain, the lastly select the hip bone and press ctrl+j and "keep offset"

This is all assuming you aligned the height of the belt to match where the leg and hip bones are so that it deforms correctly

[naive quartz]

sorry to reply to this but do you think you could help me with my issue in the video just above please

[arctic ginkgo]

i'm not sure what you mean? you said it only "tracks" once crouching? wdym by that?

[naive quartz]

so i am trying to change the standing animation in the blendtree but it does not seem to track unless i crouch or jump in game despite having the tracking control

[arctic ginkgo]

again, what do you mean it doesn't track?

what is it not tracking?

[naive quartz]

sorry, the legs

feet and legs

[arctic ginkgo]

you have leg trackers?

[naive quartz]

No i am a desktop user

[arctic ginkgo]

do you mean the animation is not playing?

for the legs

[naive quartz]

yes only once i jump or crouch

[arctic ginkgo]

what does your tracking control look like?

you have legs and feet set to animation?

[naive quartz]

here

[somber sequoia]

merge armature via ctrl+j, re-parent the belt bones to the hip bone.

ah I was scrolled, sorry

[arctic ginkgo]

okay, the issue is that it doesn't affect the avatar for a few frames. I don't know why. But I had this issue as well. The solution is to have a starting animation state that waits for a few frames before transitioning to the main state. Make an version of your idle animation that waits for about 0.5 seconds, and that one should be the default animation. Then add a transition with exit time enabled and set to 1. For the condition you will probably need one because of buggy behavior, so to make sure the avatar is initialized as as well as avoid this bug, set the condition to "TrackingType" greater than 0

This issue may come from the state activating tracking control before avatar initialization

[naive quartz]

interesting, i will give this a go. thankyou

[safe mesa]

Is this why people see my avatar as gigantic?

He looks short here

[desert elk]

what do you mean by gigantic?

[safe mesa]

Some people complain that he appears much larger in size than intended.

[round comet]

Then just shrink him with the avatar scaler

The preview is gonna look different from the actual model

[safe mesa]

Yeah but then it gets desynced. cuz I end up feeling smaller than I want

[somber sequoia]

1.3m isn't huge?

[safe mesa]

I made a post in #1138891887374237706 about this

[desert elk]

so, you're saying it looks different to you comapred to others?

[proper storm]

anyone know if the AudioLinkAvatar Prefab just doesnt work anymore? Not working for me at all hope sdk update didnt break it

[safe mesa]

yeah pretty much.

It only syncs up properly when they activate it

[somber sequoia]

might want to link directly to that, I didn't see it at a glance

[proper storm]

Or well

the player for links not working

audio files probably work fine

[grim hedge]

Pardon the interruption, but...

Can someone clear something up for me?

When an Avatar animation state Parameter Driver is marked as local only with synced parameters, does that mean...

1. The parameter is set locally (only for the wearer) then synced globally? or...
2. The parameter is only ever set locally and becomes desynced?

[safe mesa]

https://discord.com/channels/189511567539306508/1350830830284705853

Wait I just noticed.

Whenever I switch over to it, I flicker up in size for a brief moment

[balmy barn]

still working

[somber sequoia]

iirc 2, but if you want it to be synced you can still have it in your avatar parameters list.

[proper storm]

Thanks for telling me it works, but I dont get why mine isnt lmfao

Also i wont even ask what I just saw

[safe mesa]

Okay so I think I fixed it

[proper storm]

Yeah man idk, i just put isLocal true for anything im syncing and it just magiacally works

I only ever have to sync contacts though

I dont get the treshold to where it needs to be synced

contacts that play one anim when touched work fine, but if anymore logic, they just break for other clients and desync

[grim hedge]

That's what I'm asking. I have a parameter that is synced that I drive with a local only parameter driver, and I noticed sometimes it desyncs, even though its a synced parameter, which doesn't seem correct to me.

I'm changing up my animator logic to instead only transition on IsLocal so this is unecessary, but I'd like clarity on the intended behavior, since this seems like a bug.

[proper storm]

contacts that get disabled by the anim when you touch it also will NOT sync

[somber sequoia]

hmm that doesn't seem correct

[grim hedge]

I'm talking about synced animation parameters.

[proper storm]

Yeah

its the same case

contacts that have logic with parameters also need to be synced properly

They act very unstable

[grim hedge]

In irony I was using Local Only in the Parameter Driver specifically to avoid desync since this is something that can toggle on or off, and I didn't want to encounter fringe race conditions which might cause it to toggle the wrong way for remote users. But instead local only seems to, at least sometimes, cause it to just... not sync? Even though it's marked as synced? It's like it detaches the parameter's sync status.

[proper storm]

Some of my contacts on my older avatars only worked half the time

[proper storm]

Pretty much, the logic happens locally, but it syncs it anyways

[balmy barn]

usually i need to set a parameter after a local receivers since they can only do bools (boo) , this one is abit of a mess that uses 80 local sender/recivers

would only need 2 if i could do int in them

[proper storm]

I think it desyncs easier if it tries syncing for everyone in the layer

the parameter is synced in the drivers as well

so

logic on the layer happens on client side, but the drivers still set the params and they are synced so it works anyways

[grim hedge]

For some clarity, I'm using a custom invocation system to trigger spells via words, and one of the spells triggers an effect that relies on a synced bool. But due to the nature of the invocation system, there's the fringe case of the triggering states varying between local and remote clients which can cause desync or even unwanted sync, so I was driving the synced bool with a local only driver so that it would essentially treat the local bool as the "master" bool and and then sync it to the rest.

But I noticed during a couple events that some people were saying this effect was triggered, even though in my animation menu and avatar debug panel it most certainly was not.

[proper storm]

if they werent synced, it obviously wouldnt work

[grim hedge]

The behavior, at least for some people, seemed to be that local only was preventing the variable from being synced, even though it was marked as synced.

[brittle urchin]

Hey all! So I just followed a tutorial to make a grabbable prop on my avatar using gestures but my avatar has no fingers.... Would that be a reason as to why it's not working? 😬

[balmy barn]

using contacts & constraints ? cause you should least have a wrist

[brittle urchin]

Contacts and constraints

When I reach and grab, nothing happens

[pine valley]

You'll need to look carefully at your animator transitions. If you can't reach the correct state from any starting state, then desync is possible

imagine getting "stuck" in a state with no valid transitions out of it

[grim hedge]

Shouldn't be happening with remote clients though. Everything worked local side.

I've verified all the exit states and whatnot. Nothing should be stuck.

[lone maple]

helloooooo, so i have added VRC-ASL_Gestures to my avatar, but now it's disabled my wheels, so not able to change color of hair/clothing

[somber sequoia]

did you replace the avatar's main menu?

[glass condor]

Hey guys, quick simple blender question: My model looks normal in object view, but when I go to edit mode, my model is facing backwards --i can't tell if this means the armature is backwards, the mesh is backwards, or both. How do I fix it?

[somber sequoia]

are you looking at a blendshape that's not Basis?

re: backwards: +Y goes into the screen

[glass condor]

h u h

the avatar is basically a model I ported from mixamo, there really shouldn't be any blendshapes, fresh out of the character maker

[somber sequoia]

okay, but you should probably verify that

otherwise, any modifiers on the mesh object?

[glass condor]

it's been a bit since I've been in blender, where do I check that? (I'm on 4.3.2 if that matters)

[somber sequoia]

green triangle in the properties box, under "shape keys" - if there are any, make sure you have selected the one you want to view. Basis is the typical name of the default, at the top.

[glass condor]

I see. I checked, there's nothing under shape keys. Not even a [basis] I think

[somber sequoia]

okay then you have no shape keys, and thus this isn't the issue

[glass condor]

I noticed that it only happens on edit mode for the bone armature too

[somber sequoia]

edit mode for stuff is going to show you the raw version of that, without stuff like poses or shape keys or modifiers applied

[glass condor]

so does that mean that my object mode is the one thats backwards? 😥

Oh, when i go to edit mode on a mesh, it does this:

[somber sequoia]

without looking I couldn't tell you, but you can easily check which way it faces.
Probably apply transforms as well.

[glass condor]

face orientations are all normal if that's what you mean (in object mode)

[somber sequoia]

I didn't mean anything about mesh faces

[glass condor]

oh dam sorry 😅

[balmy barn]

if you are testing it with av3 enable this on it and receiver 'self' , had issues with it on 3.7.6 why im still on 3.7.5

trying to explain this would be annoying

detect wich hand grabs it , moves to constraint

[somber sequoia]

it's good to verify that anyway 🙂

[glass condor]

but uh, any ideas?

Once again, this model is fresh out of mixamo, yet it turns around in edit mode. What's going on, anybody?

heres some example pics of this happening

[coral hound]

Vrchat avatar creation experts (myself not included given this issue)

Yknow how having different meshes on an avatar means that a light probe might influence a mesh but not the other, and the result is different meshes of the avatar having different lighting? Well, I remember fixing this issue in the past giving all meshes the same bounding box, but with liltoon (idk with other shaders) I still run into this problem. Anyone might know what's going on?

[glass condor]

and i just realized that i accidentally cut out the top in the second picture...the second pic is edit mode of the bone armature

[safe mesa]

The eyes of my parasite avatar don't animate anymore for some reason

[somber sequoia]

also I just realized I'm replying in two places - this is why cross-posting isn't great.

[compact dust]

hi kazin ze wizard

[somber sequoia]

lies

[compact dust]

it 'tis the truth

[safe mesa]

Why do they not work correctly anymore

The eyes don't twinkle

[ornate stump]

Does the blendshape itself work?

[safe mesa]

yes.

[ornate stump]

What isn't working?

[safe mesa]

When I hit the test button, the eyes don't animate on their own.

In other words, the blendshape is unaffected

[ornate stump]

Without knowing how you did or what you changed there will be no answer.

[safe mesa]

all I did was add a mouth.

[ornate stump]

It'd be better explaining how you did.

[ornate stump]

Also you didn't test it with gesture manager. This wouldn't reflect how the avatar would work in game.

[safe mesa]

oh right.

I'll add that to the project and if it still doesn't work then idfk

It still doesn't work.

[sleek finch]

Any fix?

[ornate stump]

Did you add the animation to FX layer?

[safe mesa]

yes.

fuck wrong file

[somber sequoia]

describe with words what you think is wrong here.

[sleek finch]

the fingers?

they are moving?

[somber sequoia]

should they not?

[ornate stump]

How is its contents? Layer, etc.

[sleek finch]

Er no?

[somber sequoia]

don't assume we understand your goal unless you tell us

[ornate stump]

Why did you need it additive?

[safe mesa]

That apparently doesn't change anything

[ornate stump]

Is the animation enable Loop Time?

[safe mesa]

yes.

[brittle urchin]

Bumping this cause I would really like some help on it

[safe mesa]

I tried remaking the animation and it didn't fix it

[ornate stump]

Screenshot this again but entire unity window.

[safe mesa]

one moment

[sleek finch]

Fixed.

[timber otter]

does anybody know why I can't open the "review any alrts"

[compact dust]

did- did you click it

[timber otter]

ya

surprisingly

and restarted the unity thing

it like just wont open

[compact dust]

nvm then
i am no unity wizard

[timber otter]

🧍‍♂️

it only does this with the new updated sdk

😠

[ornate stump]

Did you actually enable gesture manager when testing?

[safe mesa]

It's enabled

[ornate stump]

That's installed, but not enabled.

[compact dust]

hi kazin

[somber sequoia]

... why do you keep doing this?

[safe mesa]

I enabled it for real this time and IT'S STILL NOT ANIMATED

[compact dust]

idk i like saying hi to kewl ppl

:D

[ornate stump]

Screenshot again when testing.

[safe mesa]

wait

Is this something to do with the SDK being updated?

requiring the gesture manager to animate things in testing?

[ornate stump]

It shouldn't.

[safe mesa]

Well the animation plays, but I want it to play on its own without requiring me to play it manually

[timber otter]

So i've made a whole new unity project

and it still open let me open the review any alerts

[safe mesa]

I'm gonna lose my mind over this damn animation

[compact dust]

what's ze problem

[safe mesa]

.

[compact dust]

sorry im alergic to replies

[safe mesa]

jee thanks for your help /s

[compact dust]

i dont see a problem with it

it looks the same as the animation

[safe mesa]

Okay so I checked the VRChat reddit and someone said that SDK3 doesn't work with it

or maybe I'm misinterpreting it

[safe mesa]

That's because there is a shader on screen.

[compact dust]

uhuh

so

whats the problem

hi fen

[pine valley]

work with what, exactly?

you can certainly animate blendshapes

[safe mesa]

https://www.reddit.com/r/VRchat/comments/n7pp8s/animations_not_animating/?rdt=54316 I know this won't embed so you gotta click the link unfortunately

[pine valley]

perhaps you're trying to animate a blendshape that's already being controlled by the avatar? I know that you can assign a few blendshapes for eye movements in the Avatar Descriptor

[safe mesa]

The eye's blend shapes aren't being touched.

Wait I got it

I just had to replace the blink animation node with the twinkle anim

[somber meadow]

screenshot your console, is there any spammed errors

[timber otter]

actually there is, a bunch. I uninstalled the sdk and reinstalled gonna see what it says now

[somber meadow]

it's not SDK related

[timber otter]

thats all im getting from this

its repeated

[somber meadow]

you have a corrupted state machine somewhere in your avatar descriptor's animators, look through your animator layers for a completely empty layer and delete it

[timber otter]

this is gonna sound so dumb

but like

the fx?

[somber meadow]

Any animator in your avatar descriptor including your FX, you'll need to open them and find the corrupted layer in them

[timber otter]

what does it normally look like? is it just empty

[somber meadow]

a corrupted layer will be completely empty

no start or exit states

[timber otter]

ok

[balmy sun]

is there ever a reason for parameters to not be synced?

[timber otter]

I FOUND IT

blanke

thank u

[pine valley]

The most obvious case: local-only toggles

I often give my avatars a local-only flashlight

[somber meadow]

preset toggles too

[pine valley]

I'll also add lots of "calibration" visuals -- e.g., a ring that shows me how far my avatar sounds will reach

very handy for adjusting my scaling settings

[pine valley]

yeah -- you can add a ton of unsynced bools, and then use a parameter driver to set them all based on a single synced int

[balmy sun]

im having a problem with some animations I set up with face tracking not working on anyone elses side other than mine

[lavish obsidian]

can u able to show me to how do i need to fix it?

[somber sequoia]

I definitely cannot show you weight painting, but there are many tutorials for this

[lavish obsidian]

no i did the weight painting on the mesh allready but it still not following the bone.

[somber sequoia]

that's very strange then.

[lavish obsidian]

its just happened when im just trying to export it as an fbx file

[wide prairie]

for some reason my toggles aren't working in game I fixed this for another avi before but forgot how I fixed it

might've been the script

[mint mango]

i need help with unity pls why does everytime i upload my avi the parameters duplicate and bc of that it doesnt let me upload it since it tells me i have "too many" but in reality i dont it just duplicates

[valid olive]

halp-

[compact dust]

picture of ze first 3

error

[valid olive]

this?

[pine valley]

That's the last three errors

Scroll up.

[compact dust]

is that the first 3

[pine valley]

You are missing a package.

[somber meadow]

You’re missing VRCFury

[pine valley]

"You are trying to save a Prefab with [a missing script]"

[valid olive]

i inported vrcfury.....

[somber meadow]

Did you import it to the project? Adding it to VCC isn’t all

Click manage project on the project then click the plus button on the VRCFury package in vcc

[valid olive]

oh shit-

tysm

[short ferry]

uhm, All I did was upload the pc version of my avatar

now my prefabs won't work-

[short ferry]

so apparently my vrc parent constraints just deleted itself because I uploaded my avatar to pc

[brittle urchin]

My toggle doesnt seem to work unless the fx controller is put into the playable layers section. This is almost never the case for me. Can someone help?

[pine valley]

this is a runtime error -- something is trying to use a constraint that got destroyed

i wouldn't expect anything to actually disappear from the scene

[short ferry]

neither would I but it did-

lemme try reimporting the prefabs

[bright stump]

Do you happen to use a toggle maker script?

[uncut lotus]

I downloaded a middle finger gesture, and it has both fingers stuck up. Is there a way to still use it where it only does each finger per gesture?

[runic fern]

how on earth do i fix this? ive tried all i know 💔

[round comet]

imported an outfit into blender and it's in A pose. Is there an easy fix for this? ^^

[compact dust]

which pose is that

i forgor

[round comet]

arm do ze a shape instead of t shape

I imported the dress for my spring model and it's in a pose guh

[winter edge]

With poiyomi or liltoon is it possible to choose which mesh has priority when clipping through each other?

[compact dust]

is that when they have the arms bent

[round comet]

yesh

[compact dust]

im assuming in blender its not in the A pose?

if you imported it there

[round comet]

whoever made the asset put it in A-pose

bwahh

[compact dust]

what da hek

are the arms seperate meshes or no

[round comet]

wha?

how do you mean

[compact dust]

cus i mean you could probably just rotate the bones

[round comet]

I was considering that

[compact dust]

seperate mesh from the dress is wim

very cute outfit tho

[round comet]

I don't wanna mess anything up just in case

I just wanna force t-pose lol

[balmy barn]

pose mode , move outfit into a T it has bones