avatar-help

[hollow mountain]

So I'm doing it kinda correctly right?

[somber sequoia]

seems reasonable! There are lots of ways to do it

[hollow mountain]

I'm over here performing an organ transplant on my textures lmao

[somber sequoia]

also depends on what you're trying to make too, I don't do blush often (since I usually do semi-realistic furries) but I'd probably try to apply it with a decal with Poiyomi

[hollow mountain]

I dunno, but hopefully my janky solution will work lol

[somber sequoia]

worth a shot 🙂

[arctic ginkgo]

does anyone know how to make bullet hole particles? i'm trying to make a gun but i can't get the bullet holes to sit flat on the walls that they're shot at

[west magnet]

I really need help with this, I wanted to add more Emotes to GoGo Loco, but for some reason every time I add emotes they make the avatars mouth stop working, I literally copy and pasted the Action layer and added the Emotes, I didn't do anything else to it

I found the issue, a single emote animation had the talking blendshapes keyframed for some reason

[arctic ginkgo]

I'm realizing most people use a decal shader for this 🙃 was looking to make it quest compatible. I'm sure there's some setting with the collision that can get the bullet facing the right direction before spawning the bullet hole particle

i might just have it spark when it hits the wall instead tbh

[tawny juniper]

hey so im working on avatar optimization and i suck at blender like a BIG NOOB ive tried looking into videos on how to do this specific thing but i fail to understand so amma ask here to see if anyone can hit me up with a DM or reply here.

im wanting to learn how to combine my textures into 1 big PNG instead of having 1 for body, 1 for hair, 1 for outfit.
Same thing for materials combining the UV stuff together

just like a step by step guide on how do this this cause im stuggling and really wanna optimise my avatar as much as possible

[ornate stump]

Optimization is a broad topic. What you asked is called "Texture atlas" or "material combine". CATS plugin have function to automatically combine material, but it's better to do manually.

[tawny juniper]

yee when it comes to that stuff i try to stay away from tools i prefer learning the hard way that means i can know how to fix if something goes wrong

i just cant find any detailed videos on how to do it

[arctic ginkgo]

the addon is "material combiner", CATS just has it embedded in their menu, but you have to install it seperate and can install it without CATS

[ornate stump]

Then you'd need to learn the basic procedures too.
The outlines are:

1. Adjust objects' UV so all object UV contained in single nonoverlapped UVmap.
2. Join all the object meshes.
3. Remove material slot from object so the combined object has only material.
4. Use image editor app to stitch texture of each material together according to UVmap.

[tawny juniper]

are there any good tutorials out there that can explain how to do this?

[ornate stump]

It's better to learn basic functionality of blender instead of just looking for tutorial for such specific topic.

[quasi briar]

Anyone know what could be causing the bounding box of a mesh to be completely normal until hitting play in unity, where it shrinks down to be like a pixel?

[ornate stump]

Look for tutorial to create something from scratch, so you know the procedure and see what need to be done in order to optimize.

[tawny juniper]

alrighty ty

[ornate stump]

Do you see the scale of the object changed?

[quasi briar]

Nope. Only bounding box is shrinked.

I've made multiple versions of this avatar and never had this issue before, it just randomly started to occur. I have no idea why.

[ornate stump]

Are the number in bounds in skinned mesh renderer that changed?

[quasi briar]

Not in play mode is 1, in play mode is 2
Idk if that's what you're asking for

Doesn't even look that weird but the visual cage when I hit "edit bounds" is extremely tiny in play mode

[ornate stump]

Yes that. The playmode one actually has larger bounds.

[quasi briar]

Wait... I think I may have figured something out? The root bone changes in play mode for some reason, due to a VRCFury component.

When I set it back to the hips it's normal (in play mode)

[ornate stump]

Not sure why it change though. Unless the mesh is being generated when entering play mode.

Probably by vrcfury.

[quasi briar]

At least I have a lead now.

[charred kite]

It sadly won't let me build my avatar due to this error, any Ideas?

[ornate stump]

#avatar-help message

[lyric heath]

I need help

With making an avatar

Idk how it’s kinda hard

[junior void]

thats too vague

[lyric heath]

It’s hard to actually make and sculpt the avatar

[junior void]

not sure how i could help with "making an avatar is kinda hard" - it aint a question

[prime vale]

Does anybody know why, when an Action layer animation finishes playing, the avatar reverts to a desktop/neutral pose for a split second before tracking returns? It only happens from other people's point of view.

[ornate stump]

Because it changes tracking state between tracking and animation and it changing back to tracking after action emote will be delayed abit on remote player.

[dreamy grail]

does website performance rank matter? my avatar was good on pc and medium on quest when i uploaded it, but medium on pc and poor on quest

[spark walrus]

Hey! so im trying to add a bunch of accessories to a premade avi, after postioning everything to my liking, im getting a param error, saying that each toggle is not defined

any help?

[ornate stump]

Have you add parameters to expression parameter file?

[spark walrus]

? whats that? this is my first time trying this lol

[ornate stump]

If it's your first time then you should watch tutorial video about making toggle.

[spark walrus]

Do you mean this?

[ornate stump]

Yes.

[spark walrus]

yeah the param for the coin is in there, but im still getting the error

I tried setting the toggle itself into a sub-menu, could that be the issue?

[ornate stump]

Can you screenshot the actual error?

[ornate stump]

And what you put in the menu? Also take screenshot.

[gloomy flint]

go to the menu tab in your assets and find the menu for the prefab and send a screenshot of what they look like in the inspector, sounds like it was put in incorrectly, or maybe even lacking a prefab, so the parameters aren't placed into the menu toggles correctly

[spark walrus]

thats the submenu, I have the same issue with both fiddle cube and Cig, I have the "Coin [PC]" routed to the expression menu in the prefab

[gloomy flint]

click on one and show what the set up looks like

[spark walrus]

elaborate?

[gloomy flint]

this menu

this be what we need

all you sent shows is that the menu itself exists, but not if the menu is actually connected to a parameter

[ornate stump]

Where did you take this screenshot from?

[gloomy flint]

you need to go to the coin [PC] menu and click one of the slots for it, like Sound Off, and the menu I showed will appear underneath

[spark walrus]

all of them have their assigned params

thats why im so confused

[gloomy flint]

🤨

why is it fighting back

the next thought would be the parameter exists but there is no data in it

but ???

[spark walrus]

that wouldnt make sense

[gloomy flint]

is there possibly two menus on the avatar for Coin or do you just have the one (I do know its an issue with other prefabs on your avatar but-)

[ornate stump]

Did you actually merge coin parameter file into the main avatar parameter file?

[spark walrus]

oh uh no i didnt, i watched the tut and it said to all i needed was to drag the asset from the "VRCFury" file and attach it to my avi in the heirarchy

at least i dont think i did

[spark walrus]

no there is only one menu for coin

[ornate stump]

If you use vrcfury then you must not manually add the menu.

[spark walrus]

wdym? OH

WAIT

i did a fuck didnt i

[gloomy flint]

Yea- do you also have VRCFury installed on the project?

[spark walrus]

I wasnt supposed to create these submenus?

yes i do

[ornate stump]

Do not.

[gloomy flint]

Then remove the menu you made, VRCFury automatically puts that in for you if you go into gesture manager to test or upload it

[spark walrus]

i feel like an idiot lol

yep that did the trick, i appreciate it ❤️

[granite ether]

how can i unbind a blend shape / animation slider? im trying to just manually edit the slider, rather than having it be bound to a gesture on an avi base im working with (i need to manually edit certain clothing paramaters cuz of how i have it set up

i am trying to unbind this specific slider from the normal masculine radial

[junior void]

you need to remove the keys that use this blendshape in whatever animations use it

[granite ether]

how do i do that

[junior void]

Well first, you need to find your animator (likely fx) and look inside of it - the layers should be named appropriately. If they are, you can easily find the animations for it

If you understand nothing of what I just said, you should watch tutorials about the unity animator and state machine. At least finding that is very basic.

[celest scaffold]

What are you guys doing when a model has way to many bones? So many that you can't even see the face. Removing them manually is too much work. Is there a plugin that gets rid of them and keep the necessary ones?

Example would be the Cyberpunk models.

[hidden loom]

Hi there, my impostors generate stuck in a T-pose. Anyone know how to fix that?

[lucid yarrow]

how do i fix my mask moving with the string phys bone?

[ornate stump]

How does the mask become a part of physbone chain?

[lucid yarrow]

not sure

this is what my setup for the armature looks like

and uhhhh

i put the physbone on the first bone of the string

idk why the mask moves with it

[ornate stump]

You might accidently weight painted to a wrong bone.

[lucid yarrow]

that shouldnt happen

the weightpainting should be correct

i know because i slaved away like Hours at it becuase its anoying

what could theother causes be

@ornate stump

[ornate stump]

Did you unpack prefab?

[lucid yarrow]

can you tell me what that means?

[ornate stump]

The command "Unpack Prefab" where you use to break the prefab.

[lucid yarrow]

are these prefabs

[ornate stump]

Unpack Prefab is a command you used in scene object.

[lucid yarrow]

oh

[ornate stump]

Just don't unpack

[lucid yarrow]

k

let me figure this out first cause uh

the two pieces (character and mask) i exported arent prefabs,
but i do have a prefab of the older version of the model without the strings

[ornate stump]

Every fbx file is its own prefab so that's false.

[lucid yarrow]

oh you shouldve told me that

[ornate stump]

So, did you keep model prefab in the scene?

[lucid yarrow]

i deleted the old model prefab in the scene but kept it in the assets, heres what it looks like

though i cant seem to figure out the command for unpacking prefabs

could you tell me

[ornate stump]

Then just don't.

[lucid yarrow]

i

you told me to unpack the prefab for the mask

if i cant do that, whats the alternative?

[ornate stump]

I didn't tell you to unpack. I'm checking whether if you unpacked, because unpacking potentially can cause the issue.

[lucid yarrow]

ohhhh

well i didnt unpack

[ornate stump]

Then you will have to figure out which bone that actually move the mask.

[lucid yarrow]

thats really weird

because i posed it in blender before and every bone seemed fine

[ornate stump]

Try posing in unity too

[lucid yarrow]

let me look up a tutorial on how to pose in unity

[ornate stump]

Just use move tool and move the bones around.

[lucid yarrow]

oh

😭

thanks

i didnt know it was that simpl

ok so its just this bone that just moves the entire mask with it..

very weird

did i miss one spot in blender or something

[lucid yarrow]

whoops i menat this one

every other bone is fine

[lucid yarrow]

THOUGH theres this

i think thats the bone thats parented to mask

😭

[wind skiff]

if the mask is one large rigid object, that's correct

[normal matrix]

I’m trying to add toggles to my avatar and do the sub folder stuff but I can’t find out how. I’ve watched videos and I’m still confused.pls help

[desert elk]

right click in assets > crate > VRChat > expressions menu
and In your current menu add a new section and pick "sub menu" and select the menu you just created as the option

[lucid yarrow]

why doesnt the texture for the mask get put on properly

i have an older one which works perfectly but this new one just doesnt

even though i used the same mesh when making the texture

[jagged wigeon]

What do I do in this situation

Sorry for bad quality

[lucid yarrow]

please someone im genuinely ripping my hair out i dont know what to do here

[somber sequoia]

is this texture made specifically for this object? looks like maybe wrong UV map?

[somber sequoia]

you cut off the error messages in the right pic, can't read them.

[lucid yarrow]

YES

i

let me explain

[jagged wigeon]

Ok give me a min

[lucid yarrow]

before finishing this model i exported it while it didnt have these strings of beads

made a texture appied it

[somber sequoia]

do a screenshot instead

[lucid yarrow]

it was fine

[jagged wigeon]

Ok

[oak summit]

How did you fix this? my visemes works in unity but not in vrchjat. I put the skinned mesh renderer as the face mesh

[lucid yarrow]

but now i finish it with the beads, make the texture in blender, it LOOKs right and IS right cuz i put it onto the other beadless mask in blender and it was fine

[jagged wigeon]

Im hopping on it rn

[lucid yarrow]

but after exporting it in unity it just doesnt apply correctly at all to the MASK with the BEADS

for SOME strange reason

[somber sequoia]

yeah I'd be looking at the UV map here, make sure you didn't put new islands over existing ones or something like that.

[lucid yarrow]

i

hold on

[lucid yarrow]

their islands are like different for some odd reason i dont know why

i used the same smart uv unwrap thingy

[somber sequoia]

yeah this looks like the issue

[lucid yarrow]

heres the thing

these textures work on both the beaded and beadless mask

[somber sequoia]

if you unwrapped using an automatic tool, no guarantee it'll do things the same twice

[lucid yarrow]

its the recommended option for unwrapping uvs

i treid out the other ones

and they looked monstrous

😭 idk what to do man

[somber sequoia]

remake the texture with the current UV map, or redo the UV map to match the texture

[oak summit]

blinking works

[lucid yarrow]

i cant because the unity doesnt apply the curent one properly

unity is basically trying to force me to make the uvs for the beads in the original maskless texture

which i dont know how to do

[somber sequoia]

this isn't a unity problem

[lucid yarrow]

theyre the ones applying the texture worng while in blender it looks just fine

[somber sequoia]

if it's one material, then yeah, everything must be on the same UV map

(unless you're doing complex stuff like decals or masking in an advanced shader)

[lucid yarrow]

its just one single texture

[balmy barn]

watch for multiple uv's

[somber sequoia]

then yeah, rework your UV map to fit everything

[lucid yarrow]

where can i find that

[somber sequoia]

Blender near where shape keys and vertex groups are

[jagged wigeon]

Here is it

[somber sequoia]

odd you have that AI navigation thing there - did you install the world SDK too?

[jagged wigeon]

No

[patent geyser]

What is this shader?

[onyx owl]

Wdym?

[patent geyser]

i cant find it

ive never heard of it

[onyx owl]

Hmm

That's strange,

Are you using any premade prefabs?

[patent geyser]

yeah

[onyx owl]

Like what?

[patent geyser]

its a model idk

[onyx owl]

Ok

that may be the issue then

[patent geyser]

they dont mention it either

[onyx owl]

What u can do is check through the sdk pannel through all the mesh renderers

[onyx owl]

Then u check the mats of each mesh untill u find it

And then just change the shader out!

You would hit select

Hope that helps,

If not try looking at the particles on ur avi for the same thing

[patent geyser]

no idea what youre talking about

zero

[desert elk]

Check every material to find that shader and change it

if you're using particles, check those too

[normal matrix]

Idk why but when I have the toggles in the gesture manager their all their but none of them work

[desert elk]

do they have animations assigned to them? do the animations of their own work in the preview?

[normal matrix]

How do I give them their animations?

[desert elk]

record your animations, add the needed parameters, fx layers and stuff and in the menu you can select the correct options. Toggle, radial puppet, etc, depending what your toggle is. And add the correct parameter.

did you watch any toggle tutorials when making your avatar?

[normal matrix]

I just found it

Only took no sleep 👍

[idle quartz]

Kind of a dumb question but when vrcfury compiles its scripts does it take up parameter slots?

[junior void]

For toggles and radials, of course

[idle quartz]

Is there a way to know so i can keep my other parameters limited?

[junior void]

A way to know what

[idle quartz]

How much parameter space vrcfury toggles take up in total

[junior void]

Unless a parameter renaming exception is used, vrcf parameters use a prefix, i believe its VF_. So in play mode, you can open your parameter file and see them there

[round comet]

remaking my avatar and getting a weird issue rn where if I merge the tail armature to the main one, the tail mesh goes straight out for some reason >.>

only happens when I merge the two

I have no clue how I did it last time without this happening

[desert elk]

are transforms applied before merging?

[round comet]

lemme see if that helps

using CATS for this specifically for more context just since I'm unsure how to merge armatures manually

it only lets me apply transforms if I check join meshes, which I don't wanna do :')

screenshot if needed

[junior void]

Go to "item" in the n panel. See if scale is anything but 1 or xyz is anything but 0

[round comet]

oo ok, let me go check

her xyz scale for the tail seems to be 1

could that be why?

[junior void]

Scale should be 1 but space transforms should be 0

[round comet]

ohh I see, ok

when I imported the fbx, it was set to whatever scale it was originally

all I really did was place it how I wanted it

[junior void]

What if you select tail armature, shift select body armature, then hit ctrl+j

Thats how you merge armatures

Youll need to parent the tail root to hips too but no biggie

[round comet]

ohh let me see if that works. Only issue is the armature only has tail bones, so when I was using CATS I'd select to merge the armatures and parent it to the hips yeye

ahh same thing when I join the armatures

I may try to reimport it?

[junior void]

Undo it and take a pic of the item page from the tail armature

[round comet]

which page is the item page again? :o

[junior void]

Literally what you looked at before

The n panel

[round comet]

ohh the object tab?

that's what I was looking at

I'm so slow

I got it

[prime vale]

I assume there isn't a solution for that? Unfortunate

[junior void]

Your location transforms are off, this is why

[round comet]

ohh ye I had the wrong tab open lol

sorry about that

so do I set them to 0?

[desert elk]

no

[junior void]

It was either ctrl+a or alt+a where you can apply transforms

It you type 0 in theyll move

[round comet]

alright ^^

[desert elk]

if you set it to 0, it'll move and you don't want that

[junior void]

Apply transforms is 'zero out as is'

[desert elk]

so you need to apply it

[junior void]

You wanna do that for the armature first, then the mesh

[lucid yarrow]

anyone have a good tutorial for toggleable accessories

[round comet]

so ctrl + a then I have the option to apply it

[desert elk]

yes

[round comet]

okey let me apply them

[desert elk]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XqtSg6_W07Y&t=210s&pp=ygUVdnJjIGFjY2Vzb3JpZXMgdG9nZztl

[round comet]

lets see if it works now ^^ applied transforms for the armature and the mesh

[junior void]

Btw this will always happen if you move or scale things in object mode

[round comet]

bwahh didnt work

[arctic ginkgo]

does anyone have a good explanation for how vrlabs' collision detection works? I know it's based on particle collision, but i've downloaded it to try and reverse-engineer it and i'm just really confused how the particle dying makes the contacts stop touching.

[junior void]

If you did it right, it would work

[arctic ginkgo]

?

wdym?

[junior void]

Not you

[arctic ginkgo]

oh

[round comet]

I tried to apply the transforms and just couldn't figure it out

trying my best

[arctic ginkgo]

sorry just realized 😅

[round comet]

I think my blender knowledge is just limited

so its hard for me to understand if stuff isn't dumbed down

[junior void]

Show us the item page again after you applied transforms

[round comet]

okey lemme get a screenshot

[arctic ginkgo]

i'm intending to use this idea to make sound effects for a gun + rocket launcher so they make a sound on impact, but i would really like to understand how it works so i can debug if it doesn't work and am able to replicate it myself

[round comet]

it looks like this when I do ctrl + a and "apply all transforms" on the tail armature

[arctic ginkgo]

pink blender

[junior void]

Thats good, what about the mesh of the tail

[desert elk]

i need to make mine colourfull like that xD

[round comet]

my blender do be pink :3

[arctic ginkgo]

very sakura vibes, i love cherry blossoms

[round comet]

people like the themes and always ask for it

[junior void]

I seem to be the only one whose cornea is bleeding rn

[round comet]

pink is my fav color, its my theme thingie on vrchat too

I applied the transforms to all 3 meshes

gonna join them again

[junior void]

Sure. That should work though

[round comet]

lemme try joining the armatures

[desert elk]

I always just select everything with "a" to make sure I don't miss anything

[arctic ginkgo]

nvm i figured it out, it uses the stop action to disable the contact

[round comet]

yeah still stiff :/ do the main meshes and armature need applied transforms too?

[junior void]

Stiff?

[round comet]

the tail goes straight out, like what happened when I'd originally join the armatures

[desert elk]

screenshot after merge?

[round comet]

sure

[desert elk]

ohh okay

[junior void]

Its probably posed then

[round comet]

now its working?? wtf

so how do I parent certain bones to the hips? :o ty guys btw

[junior void]

Magic

[round comet]

this is my first time merging anything manually so its all new

[junior void]

Go to edit mode on the armature

[round comet]

alrighty

[lucid yarrow]

😭 how do i make toggles

[junior void]

Then in the lower right youll see a bone icon tab

[desert elk]

i don't understand the question, what part are you having trouble with?

[round comet]

found it ^^ its empty

[lucid yarrow]

the any state transitions into the toggles

i

dont know how to make these toggles

[junior void]

Click the tail root then and see "relation/parent" (forgot exact name). In parent bone you need to put hips

[lucid yarrow]

unles

[junior void]

And then thats it

[round comet]

lemme click the tail root yeye

[lucid yarrow]

how i drag in my toggles

i think thats the better question (?)

[round comet]

ok! I did it

thank you

[desert elk]

you can drag the animations from the assets, like in the video

[patent rampart]

I am trying to make a hand for my avi modeled off my IRL hand, however I am noticing no matter what I do, the point of tracking of the index controller is really far back from where it actually is (keeps appearing on my wrist / thumb area when in reality the index controller is around my knuckles). I have been messing with the bones in blender a bit but no effect. Anyone know how to adjust this?

[lucid yarrow]

wait

ohhhhhh fuck im stupid

[desert elk]

?

[lucid yarrow]

these were mytoggles

i thought i had to combine them somehow

[desert elk]

those are your animations

[lucid yarrow]

i

[desert elk]

if you have on and off like that, you should make bools instead

[lucid yarrow]

they have the same icon

[desert elk]

yes?

[lucid yarrow]

whatever im Stupid

[lucid yarrow]

oh

[desert elk]

the part of the video you watched it for toggles that let you choose between multiple different props

one at a time

[lucid yarrow]

idk why but i tend to overcomplicate stuff alot in programs like this i do not know why

ugh 😭

im sorry

[desert elk]

the one you most likely want is a om/off togge, aka bool

[lucid yarrow]

yes i understand

[desert elk]

it's the first toggle this video talks about

0:57

[lucid yarrow]

i know about that i just thought accessories needed their own thing for some reason

[desert elk]

own thing?

[spark walrus]

What unity do i use to make worlds? Please someone tell me and thank you if do

[desert elk]

go to #world-development, we do avatars here

[fleet nova]

hey, is there any way I can share avatars privately for someone that paid for it?

[patent rampart]

unity package

[hybrid iron]

Is there a known issue of the latest update to parent, rotation and aim constraints not working well.
I have a simple object parent constrainted and if a bone is inside this object, the parent constraint just doesn't work

[pearl girder]

im so confuzzled

[somber sequoia]

can you grab a screenshot of the first 2-3 errors, at the top? These aren't of much use alone.

[proven rapids]

I need help. According to Windows Defender, the following file in my current avatar project,
Library\BurstCache\JIT\ec28f2888dffa13870b505c03772ecef.dll
is actually apparently a virus called
BrowserModifier:Win32/Xeelyak
Is Defender tripping balls, or is my project actually infected?

[coral mountain]

How do you do seats on avatars for quest side?

[lucid yarrow]

the bool toggle for my hat accessory doesnt work

and when i go to the expressions menu, the toggle is perpetually turned "on"

how do i fix this

though there is one thing to note

i get this error message everytime i make a build and my bools in the transition disappear

[desert elk]

do you have true/false conditions? it looks like the conditions list is empty

[lucid yarrow]

i

did

[round comet]

is there any way to select specific parts of the mesh in sculpt mode

[lucid yarrow]

but everytime i make a build

those conditions just delete themselves

like hold on

[somber sequoia]

same way as PC, just don't add a collider, let the station do that for you

[junior void]

Use edit mode, select a piece, switch to sculpt, go to face sets option at the top -> create from edit mode selection. Now you can hide/unhide whatever area your mouse is pointing at with h key and/or fill a mask in under mask options, which blacks out everything that is not hidden

[lucid yarrow]

okay i was wrong

but still this same issue with the toggle not working is still there

[desert elk]

do you have parameters in the fx layer and the parameters list?

and are they always spelled the same?

capitals in the same spots etc

[lucid yarrow]

should

expressions menu check
expression parameters check
fx check

i feel like the error i got has something to do with it

im gonna rename the parameter

still bugged

@desert elk any other things i couldve done wrong here

[desert elk]

hold on, i'm thinking

[lucid yarrow]

i swear to god like i said this error message must have something to do with it

[desert elk]

in parameters do you have default turned on?

[lucid yarrow]

default?

which paramters

[desert elk]

the one for the toggle

that's the first checkbox

[lucid yarrow]

here

[desert elk]

does the bottom arrow say true?

[lucid yarrow]

yes

if it helps, this mask has phys bones

yea eli im confused too

[coral mountain]

do you know how to make the hit box smaller and controll the area its at?

[night pier]

cant use prints anymore anyone know why or what i need to do to fix please? everyone else can but me

[south wadi]

Getting these errors when trying to upload, what can I do?

[desert elk]

did you make the animations with the mask on or off?

[lucid yarrow]

i put the mask on in MaskOn and put the mask off in MaskOff

should i rerecord them

[lucid yarrow]

but by default his mask should be Off

wait is this normal

[desert elk]

you should start each animation with the same starting point, example off
for on, toggle it on,
for off, during recording an animation, toggle it on and off.

[lucid yarrow]

i already animated the mask, why is the "to begin animating" thing there?

[desert elk]

did you record the animations while having the mask mesh selected? or the main avatar?

[lucid yarrow]

i

this avatar rn is a duplicate

i think i mightve used the mask on the other avatar

[desert elk]

yeah, that's fine

[lucid yarrow]

the og one

is it a problem

[lucid yarrow]

the mask

[desert elk]

it says that cause you have the mask selcted not the avatar, see your hierarcy

You should have the avatar selected while recording animations

[lucid yarrow]

oh

[desert elk]

after pressing record you can switch to the mask

but you need to start recording on the avatar mesh

like in the video

[lucid yarrow]

great

[lucid yarrow]

okay i rerecorded it that way

[somber sequoia]

Hmm, not sure you can change the size, but maybe adjusting the station works? Position is definitely based on the location of the station

[plain mural]

No one visemes should be empty ("A" in my case)

[lucid yarrow]

i set the parameters in the transitions btw

[desert elk]

cause your animation set up looks correct, I'm trying to think of other things that could be causing it

[lucid yarrow]

SAme like wtf

[mental estuary]

AGK, if you don't care about the innards of a toggle, just use VRCFury to make it. It'll save you a lot of hassle

[lucid yarrow]

😭

i thought itd work nromally because i did this with props and it worked just fine

[desert elk]

it should

idk why it isn't

[lucid yarrow]

ill go and follow volcanics advise and hope it works

[desert elk]

I dislike vrcfury but if that's the only way you could try that

[mental estuary]

Why?

[desert elk]

I prefer knowing how toggles work, why they do, why they don't. I don't like the shortcut of vrcfury making everything for you. Just my preference

[mental estuary]

But it does a lot of the complicated things for you, for that reason

Exclusive tags are very handy

Armature link makes clothing more efficient

[desert elk]

I like doing things myself I think it's fun

oh I link armatures in blender

[mental estuary]

Yeah, I used to be like you. Then I realised that my avatar runs better with VRCFury

I like the modularity, and I like better performance

[lucid yarrow]

i guess vrcfury is just conveneince or something as well

[desert elk]

my avatar isn't complicated enough for me to need vrcfury

[mental estuary]

https://vrcfury.com

[lucid yarrow]

i installed fury already

Lets try it out..........

[mental estuary]

Doesn't matter if it's complicated or not, it's just handy

If you need help with VRCFury, join their server. People there are more than happy to help

[lucid yarrow]

i see

[desert elk]

it is handy for some, but I consider setting up toggles myself to be fun

[mental estuary]

And I prefer being able to remove things from my avatar without having to delete everything

[lucid yarrow]

you both have your differences

[desert elk]

you do you, I'll do me

no point talking about it further

[mental estuary]

DBTs are just more efficient 🤷‍♂️

[lucid yarrow]

ok now i have to figure out how to set up the vrcfury toggle

[gloomy flint]

vrcfury toggles can cause huge issues. Ie the Mayu avatar being unable to work with GGL when it first appeared because of how its vrcfury was set up

[mental estuary]

Add a toggle component to the Mask, then give it a menu path like "Mask", then add an object toggle action and drag in your Mask

[mental estuary]

Then report the problem. Things get fixed pretty quickly

There was a time when 10+ releases were happening a day

[gloomy flint]

It's already been patched with no help of the Mayu creator, GGL had to update ITSELF to work with the avatar :/

[mental estuary]

🤷‍♂️

[gloomy flint]

I prefer the old fashioned way, and it's a handy skill, the only time I use VRCFury toggles is when the prefab i'm putting on my avatar is basically already prebuilt using only vrcfury components.

[mental estuary]

Knowing how things work internally is important, but it's also bad to isolate yourself from things that make a job easier. It's a balance

[gloomy flint]

That's why I prefer using it for prefabs I'm attaching to the avatar, but not for anything on the avatar itself like hair or clothes or such. Any avatar that's sold that uses VRCFury toggles for customization screams corners were cut and that it's held together with scotch tape and prayers

[desert elk]

That's so true

[tall dock]

For some reason the real base of my avatar is too high up, I want to lower it because the viewpoint glitches out, any help on this?

[desert elk]

from my experience with bought avatars

[mental estuary]

I can sort of agree, but customisation being modular is also nice

The Full Controller's parameter smoothing being non-destructive is a massive plus

[desert elk]

go to blender and set the origin to be the world origin

[mental estuary]

Having to bake OSCmooth was really annoying

[tall dock]

How?

[desert elk]

let me open blender and tell you real quick

[tall dock]

Thank you thank youu

[desert elk]

1. Select everything with A. Move the avatar so it's level with the floor, and not underneath like yours is currently clipping a bit, raise it up. Keep everything selected
2. shirt s > cursor at world origin
3. right click > set origin > origin to 3d cursor
4. apply all transforms just to be safe (crtl a > apply > all transforms)

and that should fix it

[tall dock]

Done, i'll check in unity if it clips

Still clips, hmm

Idk why it shows like that

Blender bones look okay

[compact phoenix]

Can Sombody Help Me How long do I have to wait Or Somthing

[plush tendon]

Hey my unity is being insanely broken for n oreason

specificly when it comes to animations and the aniamtor

shit just randomly starts and stops working

[compact phoenix]

Can you help me @plush tendon

[plush tendon]

What is it?

image is low reason

i cna read that

[compact phoenix]

Hold on

[plush tendon]

cant*

sorry im rushing for something

[compact phoenix]

@plush tendon

[tall dock]

Still clips @desert elk

[plush tendon]

I've neer seen that error

i dont know

[desert elk]

no idea what else to suggest

[tall dock]

Hmmm

[compact phoenix]

@tall dock @desert elk Can yall help

[desert elk]

don't ping people dude

[tall dock]

When logging it isn't about unity mostly is network issue, restart ur internet

[desert elk]

i know nothing about errors

[tall dock]

also same ^

[rain wave]

man I have done elite level optimization and it's still too much for Quest😭 someone help me out here, how can I chip this down more?

[lone flax]

Hey guys, I'm having trouble with my vrchat avatar, for whatever reason I can't get my gesture working, like I got this gesture thing that changes the vrchat avatar claw hand with the sort of index ones, It worked with one of my other avatars so idk whats wrong

please help :)

[calm umbra]

What would cause an expression to not for zero reason?

The animation is correct, the FX layer is correct, the VRC Params are correct, but it wont activate when i test it

[copper leaf]

What happened to the weaponized rusk avi? Me and a friend used it all the time a while ago, but then it just, stopped letting us use it, it was my favorite avi.

[somber sequoia]

you'd have to ask whoever owned that avatar

[full compass]

i had a question related to shader inconsistencies; how would i go about doing a rimlight shader? do i have to average the view direction between both eyes? currently i use the independent direction from each eye i think, and it results in a shader that looks strange and inconsistent between eyes which results in double vision effects

[worthy pumice]

Anyone having uploading issues?

[olive mountain]

I have. Uploading the avatars takes ages.

[plush tendon]

Hey how do i make submenus

i used all the expressions in the main one

How doi get more then 8 expiression things?

[desert elk]

you add a thing like when adding a toggle and set it to "sub menu"

and add a menu to that

[worthy pumice]

I'm getting the 'timing out' error...

[granite ether]

what could be causing an avi to resort to the default error avi? avi im working with runs perfectly fine in unity but when i build and test its just the error

[obtuse vapor]

I've got a sound setup to play on a 'constant contact' but as soon as the two contacts stop colliding the sound stops, is there a way to make the sound play all the way through?

[plush tendon]

Hey my models is giving me the error spine hieracrhy incorrect

make sure the parents of the neck is the is hte chesk or upper chest

[compact phoenix]

Can Sombody help me with this Error

[plush tendon]

i got the same

[crimson pendant]

How would you go about making an object animated with bones line up with a part of a model that only moves via blendshape?

[plush tendon]

I have that error too

[compact phoenix]

How do I fix it@plush tendon

[plush tendon]

im asking for hlep aswell

[compact phoenix]

Damn

[compact phoenix]

Explain

@crimson pendant

[crimson pendant]

?

[plush tendon]

i figured it out

go to you prefab

make sure you rig is humaniod

make sure spine 4 is set as upper chest

spine 2 as chest

and spine1 as spine

[reef kraken]

Novabeast blush is... shitty

i need help

[viscid cargo]

I'm new to this VR chat thing but how do I make an avatar?

[tall dock]

Check if the material for the blush is set in cutout, if not set it that way to make its opacity lower

[reef kraken]

i dont see the blush anymore

[tall dock]

Like, at all?

[reef kraken]

nothing

[tall dock]

Tell me if the blush is in the same material as the face or is it a separate one

[reef kraken]

same?

its poi

[tall dock]

Can i see the settings on the blush mat?

[tall dock]

Check if in alpha options there something

If not, look for a alpha mask for the blush on your avatar folder

[tall dock]

Ah alr

[reef kraken]

tf? ive never messed with the blush like this

[tall dock]

I mean sometimes it happens to me on other avatars

About the blushes and face effects that have to be on cutout for them to work properly

Idk about novabeast i've never touched that avatar tbf

So i don't really know how is it composed but either way

Search for a folder called masks or in the textures folder of your avatar to see if there's something in those

[reef kraken]

this is all the textures i got

[tall dock]

Huh..

Well then i'm not really sure what's happening there if im being honest

[reef kraken]

thank you though

[tall dock]

Yeah sure, if there's something else i can help with lmk

To see if i can fix some things aswell

[reef kraken]

at the moment there isnt

thank you

[arctic ginkgo]

will my avatar imposter ever update automatically? or do i have to manually regenerate the imposter for it to update?

i don't want it to update automatically since my imposter looks bad and imposter settings broke the generation.. so i made a version that looks exactly how the imposter should and removes all the toggles, uploaded that, regenerated imposters, and uploaded the real avatar

i'm just hoping it won't override the imposter i just generated at some point

or that they fix imposter generation

because the "reparent here" setting causes the generation to fail, and imposters don't take constraints into account when being generated

[torn current]

Question for those of you peoples in here whove worked with unity,

Ive got a strange problem going on where i have a model with 2 parent constraints so that it can attach to my hand and back
it works for ME perfectly fine in the gesture manager in unity, and it works in VRChat ... BUUUUUTTTT only i can see it?? im honestly quite confused, cause all of the other things that i have that are toggles can be seen
thisprefab model unfortunately doesn't use VRCfury
im at a loss for what's the problem
this is the guide to putting it on the avatar that i followed

[granite ether]

how can i trim test avis im not using anymore

[ornate stump]

Delete in the sdk, content manager tab.

[ornate stump]

try logout and login again.

[pearl girder]

tysm

[somber sequoia]

take a screenshot of the first 2-3 errors in the console window

(can't see anything useful there)

[granite ether]

whats the easiest way to edit textures on an avi? got a base im working with but ive got no idea how to do the textures

i usually just work with the 2d textures but any bases i've worked on before the textures were specifically designed to be workable in 2d, whereas the base im working with rn does not seem like it was designed for that

[somber sequoia]

3D is nice, I'd definitely suggest some tool for that, be it Substance Painter or ArmorPaint or one of the blender add-ons that adds layers (ucuPaint, LayerPainter, etc.)

[granite ether]

any options that are free or relatively cheap?

[somber sequoia]

Other than substance all of the ones I mentioned

[granite ether]

oh sweet!

[somber sequoia]

(ArmorPaint is free if you build it, which isn't too bad)

[granite ether]

the base comes with the blender files so i'll probably just dust off blender and try using one of the plugins

wait fr

[granite ether]

would u suggest armorpaint or one of the blender addons? im not terribly experienced with blender but i somewhat know my way around

[somber sequoia]

I use Substance Painter. I recently tried ArmorPaint, it seems quite good, though a different workflow.
I've tried ucuPaint and it's.. primitive, but usable.

[round comet]

having an odd issue where my mesh isn't moving with the according bone?

[somber sequoia]

in what, blender? unity?

[round comet]

its these little head wings and they just don't move in unity now

should I check my vertex groups?

[somber sequoia]

then they're not weight painted or not linked to an armature

[round comet]

ohh alright

they should be weight painted

it doesn't have any other vertex groups excluding the head. Could that be the issue?

[tall dock]

Surely

[reef kraken]

im using oscleash script but i need to install an oscleash app?

[tall dock]

Honestly I haven't messed with osc at all but i think you need to have both

Scripts are only bridges to make using an app easier

[reef kraken]

i know but i need an oscleash app but i dont have it and no idea what to download it

[tall dock]

Search for the osc set up for vrchat avatars on youtube

There it would be explained more thorough

[crimson pendant]

how would one make bones move with visemes?

[somber sequoia]

use the Viseme animation parameter, everything else is standard

[dark crater]

physbone is super small even though the bone itself is normal sized? It seems to be only applying to the small ball at the back of the bone rather than the full thing

[somber sequoia]

those things are not directly related. show your physbone component?

[dark crater]

can change collider radius but that doesn't effect the actual physbone movement

[somber sequoia]

in what way do you want it affected?

oh I see

so that's one bone with the other two dangling - the first dangling one is the one in the ignore transform slot right?

[shrewd onyx]

Hi, I have a problem with my avatar's breasts clipping through the clothes when jumping? The avatar is shinano with marshmellow physics, and everything was fine until I applied marshmellow. It seems like the new physics are not obeyed y the clothes, only the breasts themselves

[dark crater]

yes

[somber sequoia]

one bone is not a physbone - you need to make two or increase the "Endpoint Position" value, usually +Y, try about .1

[shrewd onyx]

is there a way to make the clothes collide with the breasts, or make them pbey the same physics as the breasts?

if this is considered nsfw, I will stop

[somber sequoia]

this depends on how your clothing is attached, if it uses the avatar's armature, it ought to be working. If it uses its own armature, how you connect it matters

[dark crater]

increasing the endpoint does make it longer but it remains super small, ends up looking like this

[somber sequoia]

vrcfury's armature link is a decent thing

[somber sequoia]

"small" is what dimension exactly?

[shrewd onyx]

it uses it's own armature, but it is a child of the avatar armatureand I use modular avatar to attch it

[somber sequoia]

I know nothing about modular avatar, sorry.

[shrewd onyx]

it is the vrcfury thing I think, no?

[somber sequoia]

it's a different thing entirely

[shrewd onyx]

I see, apologies

do you know where I can get help?

[somber sequoia]

here, possibly others

[shrewd onyx]

Ah I see

[dark crater]

this is how it should look. I did a hairswap in blender and this specific physbone is the only thing messed up, original model works fine

[shrewd onyx]

help is appreciated, feel free to ping or dm me

[somber sequoia]

I'm not really sure what part of these pictures you're referring to, but if you can say which dimension you think is "small" here, that would help

[shrewd onyx]

in the marshmellow docs it says this, for the base I am using

could it be binding the armature to the wrong chest?

[dark crater]

the white circle. not sure exactly what you mean by dimension, in the first pic it's so small you can't even see it. all dimensions need to be bigger

[somber sequoia]

you said "it's small" and I'm trying to figure out in what way is it small.

because bones don't have size in unity (they aren't "bones")

[dark crater]

the physbone radius

if that makes sense

[somber sequoia]

oh, so increase the collision radius

[dark crater]

I can but that doesn't seem to affect the movement of the physbone. it jitters around with the smallest movement because it's so small compared to the model

[somber sequoia]

that shouldn't have anything to do with jittering

[dark crater]

not sure what else would be causing it. happens no matter what physbone settings I use

[somber sequoia]

is that a child physbone on there too?

the dangly bit?

[dark crater]

is a direct child yeah, hierarchy looks like this

[somber sequoia]

yeah that might be the jittering

I'd probably use one component instead of two, and use the curves to change any settings between the root bone and the dangly bit

[dark crater]

weirdly enough the if I disable the dangler and just put phys on the chest, the chest doesn't move but the dangler does

OH actually managed to fiddle around and find something that worked. thank you for leading me in the right direction :>

[somber sequoia]

oh okay 🙂

cool

[torn current]

@silent sand Sorry for ping but i b e l i e v e you mightve been the person to make the profab and hopefully can help?

[patent geyser]

Can't add existing projekt.

what the fuck I CANT SELECT ONE YOU ASS

shitty program!

[ornate stump]

How you're sure that what you selected is a project folder?

[valid owl]

does anyone here know how to add facetracking to an avatar?

[ornate stump]

https://docs.vrcft.io/docs/category/avatar-references
https://github.com/Adjerry91/VRCFaceTracking-Templates

[valid owl]

can i dm you?\

[ornate stump]

No.

[slow briar]

My unity keeps giving me a compilation error whenever i make a new project- [i didn't have this issue before so idk why its acting up now]

[ornate stump]

#avatar-help message

[shell minnow]

Im porting my avatar to quest and when I go to upload it it says that im using an unsupported shader when I already changed all my materials to use mobile shaders?

[ornate stump]

You still missed some. Search for t:renderer in the hierarchy to see what you missed.

[shell minnow]

ohhh, its from my facetracking prefab

I had no idea you could do that

tysm!! :3

[spark walrus]

Is there a way to decimate using CATS that only decimates one mesh not the entire thing?

[orchid plume]

How do I make it so accessories I turn off don't turn on automatically when I join a new world? I disable them when i'm in one world and then they activate again when I join another.

[somber sequoia]

no, but blender has built-in decimation that's decent now, and can be applied to selected faces. why not use that?

[copper carbon]

did the SDK get updated with a new viseme parameter? i have a seemingly new one called "sil" which isnt on my base

[timber wharf]

always been there. its silence ie just nothing, empty blendshape most cases

[copper carbon]

so should i just set it to none or to a mouth closed blendshape? this is the first time im seeing it

[timber wharf]

none wont work

every slot must be populated

[copper carbon]

what if i set it to a blendshape that doesnt actually do anything?
will the mouth just stay on the last viseme update?

[timber wharf]

no, it is usually an empty blendshape

it wil go to 0 for other visemes ie closed mouth

[copper carbon]

oki thanks :P

[dark jay]

How can i make a bow shoot i know how to do it with a gun but not a bow

[somber sequoia]

surely it's the same idea with just different animations

[dark jay]

I have it so fist shoots but with a bow u have to pull back with arrow idk how to do that

[somber sequoia]

stretch a pysbone

[copper carbon]

i have some weird glitch where anything that isnt parented by an empty game object wont be seen by the animation thingie

[stoic bobcat]

trying to make a world constraint spawn animation, so i got the constraint down, but what I want to do is have it spawn where I am when I load/ reset the avatar. Right now everytime I turn into the avatar it just spawns at the world spawn and stays there

[copper carbon]

nvm apparently renaming the armature caused this

[dark jay]

Doesnt help

As idk what im doing

[somber sequoia]

put a physbone on the bow string, the user grabs it and you use the stretch parameter to see how far back they go

[dark jay]

How would it work can u explain more like wouldnt me doing that cause it to shoot before stretching it

[somber sequoia]

I'm making this up as I go, you use that physbone to do the grab and stretch thing, then when you let go, it fires

[copper carbon]

yo has anyone else had issues with gesture manager just not showing up?

[junior void]

not showing up where

[copper carbon]

in my unity project at all
like its enabled in VCC (and in the project manager thing) but its not just in my project when i launch unity

[junior void]

you need to add the package to your scene in unity

[copper carbon]

im guessing its in the top bar? i havent seen it show up there

[junior void]

please refer to the documentation https://github.com/BlackStartx/VRC-Gesture-Manager

[copper carbon]

oh i see
thanks :3

[hard turtle]

is there any hand referances for how splayed my avatars hands should be in blender on index controller my hands are uneven with my pinky and finger sticking to each other and index and outer finger also sticking to eachother making a sort of V in my hands

[oak summit]

sorry for the late response but I want to say thank you. this fixed it for me. Making sure all the visemes are occupied

[north sonnet]

Hello i have this problem with all of my avatar

and someobody said on the complains on the download site that i need to load in poiyomi shaders first then reapply them to all the pink materials but idk how

[ornate stump]

Have you imported the poiyomi shader?

[north sonnet]

yes look

[ornate stump]

Then you look for materials of your avatar and change shader to PoiyomiToon shader.

[north sonnet]

How do i do that

bc normaly the poiyomi i got is the pro one

that why i don't understand

and also i don't know how to do it

[ornate stump]

Just look for material files in the project panel.

[north sonnet]

Yeah i have it

[ornate stump]

Inspect and change shader.

[north sonnet]

im here

[somber sequoia]

you want to look at the materials, not the shader itself.

[north sonnet]

Im realy new on unity could u help in vc with a screen share ?

[somber sequoia]

not at the moment, sorry - I do suggest watching beginner tutorials though, so you're familiar with the basics

[north sonnet]

Oh

hold on

[balmy barn]

you bought poi pro ?

[north sonnet]

this

I found

[somber sequoia]

That is a material, yup. Click "unlock shader" at the top

[north sonnet]

i just need to unlock all now thanks

[north sonnet]

Also on the avatar i need this

but idk how to download the rfx4

i tried something but didn't work

[somber sequoia]

I don't know what this is.

[north sonnet]

ok

[desert elk]

does it not install like other unitypackages?

[amber gull]

hey just wanted to know if there's a way i can put a password for my avatar if i want to sell it and avoid people trying to rip it, is there a tool for it?

[somber sequoia]

lots, none of them are real security

[amber gull]

is there a way maybe i can make it a password for each avatar bought to have a specific code different than others?

[amber gull]

would love if u could share me some 🙏🏻

[balmy barn]

its not impossible to guess/find it ive made some random pw things

[somber sequoia]

I don't have any links to them because they're mostly useless

[amber gull]

how can u find out tho?

[balmy barn]

debug mode spam until it sticks

its just bool/ints, osc is usable too

[amber gull]

im sorry i dont have perfect knowledge can u please teach me how exactly?

[balmy barn]

vrcfury have a basic? one i think, it was messy when i last looked at it

[somber sequoia]

you'd need to have a pretty good understanding of how unity and vrchat avatar creation works to work this out - perhaps start with the basics

[amber gull]

i do know about unity and avi creation its just i didn't get the debug mode spam part

[ornate stump]

It's the in game avatar debug menu. You just have to spam the password and observe how the avatar state change.

[balmy barn]

made one that relied on a contact attached to spine that had my user uuid in it (but we cant detect that on avatars so it was just a fancy bool) , did funny things at distance ( if it doesnt exsist = all uv were wrong )

[amber gull]

okay but what i meant was i needed a way to find the person who leaked my avatar if i released it

or any tool might help me protect my avatar

[ornate stump]

You won't be able to find anyone who leak it.

[balmy barn]

not really a thing you should care about its not hard to nab anyones if visible

[amber gull]

🥲

[ornate stump]

Just for clarification, how you're going to sell your avatar?

[balmy barn]

my tests was more about sharing a av to some friend or im bored wanted to see how to set one up

[amber gull]

on payhip

unity file of the avi attached

[ornate stump]

I meant, in what format? As in you sell the unitypackage, or rent your avatar in game?

[amber gull]

unity package

[ornate stump]

Then it'd be pointless to put any protection because it can just be removed easily.

Also the problem isn't about ripping if you sell avatar package.

[amber gull]

so in ur opinion what's the best solution if u worked hard for months to make an avatar and someone could easily leak it :/

[amber gull]

or leaking it or reselling it for cheaper price

do u recommend maybe i only make uploads for the avi?

[ornate stump]

Just keep updating your avatar so the leaker can't keep up with the update package.

[amber gull]

i see thank u

[fiery crow]

theres a way to protect it

but youll have to have a payhip or gumroad account

[amber gull]

i do have payhip

would love to know how

[fiery crow]

updating and avi wont affect leakers at all btw, they literally leak free avis even

[fiery crow]

i can dm u the info if u want

[amber gull]

yea sure

[desert elk]

sounds fishy

[fiery crow]

nah

not at all

i use it too

[amber gull]

bruh

[fiery crow]

many other creators

[balmy barn]

its the magical fix

[desert elk]

wouldn't it make more sense to share it with other avatar creators too? besides it's fishy for someone who has no dms in their bio, to go to dms XD

[fiery crow]

bruh

it takes one peek to see my sites

obviously not fishy

[coral hound]

Alright, so I have a really odd problem:
My default blendshapes for the avatar are not set to 0 because I want the face to look a bit different.
I use write defaults on, and on the FX menu I have added some facial expressions tied to hand gestures.
Everything works fine if there is no gesture layer: if, instead, there is ANY gesture layer, then all the blendshapes that have been modified shoot to very high levels like 200, 300 etc. etc.

What could be causing the issue?

[somber sequoia]

multiple animations affecting the same blendshapes. Try to not do this.

one thing you can try is to have a "reset" animation in your FX root layer that just sets all of them to the defaults you want.

it'll handle doing weird things in the editor accidentally, and may help here, but still, don't poke the same blendshape from more than one animation.

[coral hound]

That is very dumb though given it's something I've had no problems for in several years, and something I see a lot of premade avatars use.

I don't think I follow your train of thought either to be honest.

[somber sequoia]

which part?

[balmy barn]

default state for all blendshapes before changed, set to 0 (dont do it on visemes) , only need it if i you doing something wierd in other animations stacking

wd off can do funny thing if you dont have it

[coral hound]

this is my current setup for various expressions. Also note that I said some blendshapes are not to 0 by default since I wanted to change how the avatar looked

[somber sequoia]

WD Off is another fun adventure, yep

[coral hound]

I use WD on all the time

Even in this example

[somber sequoia]

of course your base defaults don't have to be zero

[coral hound]

Is this needed even for WD On?

[somber sequoia]

Possibly not, but it was really the other part of my first statement that was more relevant.

[fiery crow]

u could just use hai's ComboGestureExpression

[north sonnet]

Hey i need again help for this one its only a dlc with more clothe but once i publish it i don't have the dlc on

[somber sequoia]

help with what exactly?

[north sonnet]

So when i try with gesture manager i don't have the dlc

[somber sequoia]

"the dlc" - what exactly?

[north sonnet]

Clothing

[desert elk]

so toggles don't work

[north sonnet]

I think its because of the crate with a +

[junior void]

certainly not

[north sonnet]

then what do you thing it is ?

[junior void]

You're not showing any of the submenus. Stuff is added to "outfits" and "appearance" which both exist in your root radial

but you do not show the contents of those

[amber gull]

okay so does anyone know if "Gonso System" is legit?

[north sonnet]

Huh

Can i come in vc to screen share

its realy much more easy for me

bc im french

[junior void]

even in vc i would just say the same thing again

[north sonnet]

But like u show me what i need to do idk

[desert elk]

in your assets you should find the menus

screenshot them

[junior void]

they are literally in your menu

[desert elk]

so we can see if they have animations/submenus assigned

[ruby niche]

is this normal? I can't see the additive or gestures here

[north sonnet]

this ?

[desert elk]

no

[desert elk]

set the rig to generic, apply, and set humanoid again, apply

it sometimes glitches like that

it should fix it ig you do the rig thing again

[ruby niche]

Thank you, I'll try that!

[north sonnet]

And you want to see the expressions

[desert elk]

the inside

of them

click on it

we can't tell anything based on icons alone

[north sonnet]

and the inspector

[desert elk]

you don't have parameters, that would be a first issue, i think

[desert elk]

you need a paremeters list

[coral hound]

I could try that too it's true, but i honestly dont like the end behavior

[fiery crow]

yeah i tend to just use the simple kind where its only 1 hand that controls it when using CGE

which im not sure if thats the norm, i rarely ever buy avis to know whats common

[north sonnet]

I don't remember how to open the parameter list

[desert elk]

the second file in the assets here is the parameters

and if you look top right you have parameters there set to none

i'd check if you even have the parametes list assigned on your avatar (although it could work differently if done by vrcfury, i'm not sure)

[tropic token]

hii hellow
i have run into a small issue where the stencil for the eyes / eyebrows dissapears if the shaders get locked
is this a common issue or do i need to make the compare values higher? (theyre currently sitting at 74 and 75)

[coral hound]

whats the accurate thumbnail size for an avatar?

also wondering if there is a way to set the tracking state for mouth (visemes) to "animation" (disabled) by default without using animations

[coral hound]

since im trying to disable it on avatar load (since i have a face mask) and then enable it back when i toggle the face mask off, but it seems to get stuck on visemes enabled

[arctic ginkgo]

1200x900

[coral hound]

it looks stretched still, thats the thing

[coral hound]

this is driving me nuts
this isn't my first avatar with a face mask, and with the other ones (which have an IDENTICAL setup) it works fine. But for some reason, on avatar load (or reset), it refuses to set viseme tracking to animation unless i toggle the mask off and on again

[balmy barn]

vrchat have many wierd aspects of the same image size depending on where you look, webpage/ingame/clicked on ect

[arctic ginkgo]

i don't think so unless you animate your visemes yourself. for some reason tracking control doesn't seem to work until after a few frames, so I'd have an animation on start that's at least like 10 frames long, then transition to another animation with exit time, this one has the tracking control to disable visemes, then from there set up the toggle as normal

something like this

i had the same issue with tracking control, only difference was trying to disable finger movement

instead of visemes

[coral hound]

the thing is, i have another avatar which works completely fine with the same setup i have currently, but for some reason it doesnt want to work on this one

I'll try the delay thing though, good idea

[coral hound]

i just did it and it still doesn't work...?

[opal dragon]

for some reason with this avatar, the viewpoint keeps going to the side instead of being between the eyes, I put the viewpoint between the eyes and it still does this

[somber sequoia]

got another camera on the avatar? Don't.

[opal dragon]

there shouldnt be, ill double check

nope

[balmy barn]

av/origin at 0.0.0 ? no wierd viewpoint at valuehere.0.0

[balmy barn]

should not have a value here, viewpoint doesnt move sideways so you should have av at 0.0.0

[opal dragon]

lemme test if that helps

that fixed it! tysm!!

[balmy barn]

values here are fine , some need or you look inside your own avatar or go tippy toes

[spring vale]

sorry for screenshot i dont wanna type this again 😭

i joined the unity server but they sent me here

gang i need help i keep following tutroials and im starting to get fustrated 😭

[desert elk]

it seems like it may not be weight painted properly by looking at the first error

or

at all

[spring vale]

im not sure how to fix it because i used a premade rig from the riggify addon

and automatic weights

yeah it lit looks like this on blender

[desert elk]

hmm, there's something on the feet for sure

[spring vale]

im following a tutorial but it says nothign about this

[desert elk]

oh one thing, unrelated to that error, but you'll need to fix it, you have too many bones

[spring vale]

wym?

as i said i used one of the riggify rigs so i didnt do this myself

[desert elk]

VRChat uses the unity humanoid rig set up

and you can too many bones in the chest area

[spring vale]

should i delete the rig?

[desert elk]

no

you can just delete the additional bones and re-weight paint those areas to the rest of the bones

[spring vale]

this a bit better?

[desert elk]

you can have max 4 boes
hips
spine
chest
upper chest

[spring vale]

right okay

right so ive deleted a few

and the 2 by her armpits

[desert elk]

i'd make it three to be save
sometimes unit doesn't like not having a chest bone

[spring vale]

should i delete the one on the bottom?

[desert elk]

which one do you mean?

[spring vale]

this one

sorry this is really confusing me ive never done this before lol

[desert elk]

no

hold on

[spring vale]

right when i go onto weight paint and click a bone it shows me where its been painted

[desert elk]

yes

[spring vale]

im still not sure how to fix this though

i just need it to work on unity

[desert elk]

this is how i'd rig it

as for the errors, do you have vertex groups?

here in blender

[spring vale]

yyyyes it do

i didnt set these myself

[desert elk]

usually i get that errors when vertices aren't assigned to those groups

[spring vale]

ive just used the trianglate modifier and its took the errors on unity from 4 to 1

so it got rid of 3 issues

[spring vale]

im not sure how to find out which vertices arent assigned

[desert elk]

good

what error is left?

[spring vale]

same one but theres only one now

it also just says warnings in the corner now

[desert elk]

no idea what this error is so i can't help

[spring vale]

i genuinely have no idea ive never used unity before

[normal matrix]

Hey would some one be willing to add me and go into a call with me to help me add phis bones to my avatar

[desert elk]

what's your problem?

discribe it

[normal matrix]

I need to add phis bones to the ears and tail

I just don’t know how to do that

[junior void]

you literally click add component and select physbone script on the bones you want (or an empty and reference the bone inside the script)

[desert elk]

exactly

[spring vale]

gang I'm seriously about to give up and just ask of someone can put her in the game for me I have no clue what to do anymore 😭

I've literally done everything google and people are telling me it's just not working

[desert elk]

like this

[normal matrix]

Alr I have it at the tail root

[desert elk]

nice

[normal matrix]

Is that all I have to do or is there more?

[desert elk]

you can change the settings if you'd like it to move more or less

[normal matrix]

Would I add phys bones all down the tail or just the beginning or the root of it

[desert elk]

if you add it to the root it automatically adds it to the children

[feral abyss]

I... appear to have forgotten to attach something. instead of a tshirt, i made a very precarious apron! oh well, easily fixed