avatar-help

[stoic bobcat]

how would I made multiple radial puppets to control blendshapes? like changing sizes of the mesh on each puppet

some reason when I make more than one, it deactivates the other

[ornate stump]

You'd have to record multiple blendshapes into one animation.

[stoic bobcat]

any way to make it limited so they can activate them all at once? its for a commission so i need multiple blendshapes to be activated at once using the puppets

oh let me rephrase, so they can activate seperate ones that they want

[ornate stump]

That's lot more complicate than it shouldve been. I don't have an answer to that.

[stoic bobcat]

dang sorry about that

they just want to be able to control blendshapes for sizing different parts of the body :/ trying to get that to work

[ornate stump]

That would be just regular radial puppet. But you also asked for a radial puppet that can control multiple blendshape?

[stoic bobcat]

yeah, kinda hard to explain without showing the avi, and I aint gonna do that lol

so just multiple controllers to change the size of thighs, belly,butt, and chest seperatly but can still be all acitvated. 😭

[ornate stump]

That'd mean one blendshape can be controlled by 2 or more radial puppets?

[kindred moon]

uhhhhhhh doesnt work????

[ornate stump]

Did you actually have extra camera in your avatar?

[kindred moon]

no

[stoic bobcat]

shit ok, yeah im not explaining it well sorry, seperate radial puppets to control the value of blendshapes seperatly

[ornate stump]

Then that wouldn't mean it doesn't work.

[stoic bobcat]

but they still want to be able to activate multiple at once if they do please

like the avis that have control to change body proportions

again, sorry if im not explaining well, its for a comm and I dont use radial puppets much

[kindred moon]

like the camera in the scene or the camera in blender

[ornate stump]

So you have one radial puppet for controlling multiple blendshapes, and other multiple radial puppets to control individual blendshape?

[ornate stump]

Inside of your avatar object in unity.

[stoic bobcat]

second one, multiple radial puppets controling individual blendshapes

[ornate stump]

It's just regular radial puppet then.

[stoic bobcat]

if im not explaining well i do apologize, and appreciate your help

[stoic bobcat]

so weird, when i try to make it, it just makes the others not work 😭 ill keep trying stuff and see if I get something to work

[ornate stump]

Just make sure that each animation doesn't control more blendshape than it should control.

[stoic bobcat]

oh wait

im stupid

now I know why

the other anims had those blends at 0

ill be hanging myself now, thank you for showing my fatal error

[kindred moon]

uhm theres no camera

like in the avatar

[ornate stump]

Then check for view position in avatar descriptor.

[kindred moon]

i did and its fine

but im not for sure

so imma send a screenshot

[cinder pulsar]

That worked but now it's getting stuck in position and not going back. Should I just add spring?

[ornate stump]

Increase Pull.

[kindred moon]

is this good

[ornate stump]

Can you expand heirarchy of your avatar and screenshot it?

[vague ember]

yall know what this is??

[ornate stump]

Also screenshot view position in avatar descriptor.

[ornate stump]

Your avatar model oriented wrong way.

[stoic bobcat]

ooo, perhaps where did you get the dracoblox vita mimic skin model from? :0

[vague ember]

any fixes or will i have to scrap the model?

[kindred moon]

yup

[ornate stump]

Re-orient avatar model in blender.

[stoic bobcat]

where you get it from tho

[kindred moon]

made it

[stoic bobcat]

nice, was thinking of modeling my own too, didnt know if you got it from the game or found it online

[kindred moon]

nah

that will get me banned

[stoic bobcat]

huh? banned from what? vrc?

[kindred moon]

pillar chase

[ornate stump]

I found nothing wrong. Just in case you should remove camera in blender as well so it doesn't get exported with the avatar model.

[kindred moon]

i did

[vague ember]

sorry but how? do i just rotate it

[stoic bobcat]

doubt you would

[ornate stump]

Yes. Rotate it. Face toward -Y direction in blender. Apply rotation to all object.

[kindred moon]

this is my blender thingy

[iron badger]

Question: For toggles like clothes how and where do I make it so after I toggle a new set it will change to it without having to toggle the previous one?

[cinder pulsar]

that worked but now I can stretch it, I have my max strech set to 1 as well

[ornate stump]

Can or can't stretch?

[cinder pulsar]

just create a radial toggle with all combinations lmfao

[cinder pulsar]

can't sorry

typing in vr sucks

[ornate stump]

Max stretch can be more than 1.

[cinder pulsar]

lemme try

[vague ember]

thank you so much

[glass solar]

So i have a generic avi with a anim toggle but ever since I added it the locomotion doesn’t seem to be working and only the idle plays, anyone knows how to fix it?

[cinder pulsar]

i'd still use humanoid

[glass solar]

Well this is a generic model made for desktop

[cinder pulsar]

otherwise no bones will move

[glass solar]

Only the idle will play

[cinder pulsar]

well it should still be humanoid as locomotions need bones to move

[cinder pulsar]

still not letting me strech

[ornate stump]

Also increase stretch motion.

[cinder pulsar]

This is what my stuff looks like

I've now set stretch motion to .5

still not working

Doesn't strech one bit

[hollow harness]

I looked more into it, I open Scriptable Render Pipeline Settings and nothing is in it

[timber wharf]

@hollow harness wha

[cinder pulsar]

you just have to create a new material for it

[hollow harness]

I don't know what I'm doin

[timber wharf]

expand your model in assets, select all balls, right click - extract

now theyre editable

[hollow harness]

Like this?

[timber wharf]

ye

[hollow harness]

I take the balls out?

[timber wharf]

how about doing the rest of what i said

[hollow harness]

Oh

[hollow harness]

People say remove upper chest bone and change chest from spine2 to spine4

Do I still need to do this?

[cinder pulsar]

Did you edit the avi in blender?

cause your bone names are wrong

Or at least it isn't your conventional armature

If you have cats hit fix model and it'll fix all the bones

[ornate stump]

If you didn't save the scene then it's gone.

[vague ember]

https://tenor.com/view/ishowspeed-speed-darren-trying-not-to-laugh-im-not-laughing-gif-4097215185708668956

ooo

dang bro

[vague ember]

can i still keep all my animations?

i have them all right now

im just wondering if theyll still work

[ornate stump]

It's saved in your assets.

[vague ember]

yeah

but i was just wondering if theyll work on the new fbx

[ornate stump]

Given object paths are the same then it should work.

[vague ember]

is there a way for the model to have the animations? when i click on him and go into the animation it doesnt show anything

[ornate stump]

You need to add Animator component with controller that has the animation.

[vague ember]

okay it worked it has the animations now

im gonna work on getting everything situated again

[shut patrol]

Hi! I made my Shinano’s ears sideways with blendshape,but it seems that the physbone is still stood up, so the contact point is different
Is there any way to make the physbone sideways as well? Thank you!🙏

[cinder pulsar]

Blendshapes on move the mesh

If you wanna make the ears go sideways you have to pose the bones in blender and export it

you do that in pose mode then in CATS select apply as rest pose

[placid mica]

How do I fix my imposter being stuck in a T-Pose?

[cinder pulsar]

has it got an FX/ locomotion?

You'll need to give it that in the animator like this

(I don't have one since I use gogoloco which uses VRC fury to add it)

[shut patrol]

Thank you! I’ll give it a try

[covert fossil]

?

Says it's only 5.65mb. i don't understand how security checks failed?

[cinder pulsar]

Restart unity and upload again

[covert fossil]

did that

unless you mean like

[cinder pulsar]

This show it not stretching, I even found an avi with the same setup and that worked unlike mine

[cinder pulsar]

Close and open unity

[covert fossil]

This...

ok so no i did that

[cinder pulsar]

Also I'd use vrcquesttools to convert for quest

[covert fossil]

I made it quest compatible

[cinder pulsar]

Well use vrcquesttool anyway, I never have issues with it

[covert fossil]

ok... where do i get it?

[cinder pulsar]

https://github.com/kurotu/VRCQuestTools

[covert fossil]

ok...

and if that doesn't work?

[cinder pulsar]

Look in console and see what the fail is

[placid mica]

I have gogo on it

[cinder pulsar]

Is that vrcfury installed?

Or manually

If it's a follower just use the regular vrclocomotionlayer

Only use Gogo on your main model

[covert fossil]

that might be the issue

[junior void]

what

[covert fossil]

im using an old vrcsdk

[cinder pulsar]

I'd use the latest

[junior void]

i can use gogo on my quest upload without issue also installed via vrcfury

[covert fossil]

I have issues with the latest

Can't remember what it was but ill try and upload and tell you then

[cinder pulsar]

It's not the main model I don't think, it's for an avatar follower like the amongus things that move with you

[junior void]

so youre saying he is trying to add gogo onto the follower

[cinder pulsar]

Well they did yes

For a locomotion

[junior void]

why would anyone do that

[cinder pulsar]

So I said to just use the vrclocomotionlayer

[junior void]

the follower is nothing that can be controlled by a human

[cinder pulsar]

idk why you'd need it since I've never messed with followers

[placid mica]

Follower??

[cinder pulsar]

you said imposter right?

Or are you talking about the generated model vrc can give?

[placid mica]

The generated model... Yes.

[cinder pulsar]

Ah

Yeah I'd still use gogo

It should just work

[placid mica]

It's not, though

[cinder pulsar]

Or instead just questconvert your model and strip it down to the bare model with things that work on quest

[placid mica]

I already have a quest model

[cinder pulsar]

Then you don't need an imposter

[placid mica]

I do, but okay

[cinder pulsar]

The quest users just have to turn your avi on

[placid mica]

I know that

But not everyone does. That's not what I'm asking

[junior void]

what is this conversation

[cinder pulsar]

Imposter avis are only a simple way of having a quest compatible avi that's all

[placid mica]

I'm just asking how I can fix the t-pose issue

[cinder pulsar]

or at least I believe so

[placid mica]

It's not, really

[cinder pulsar]

Then I have no clue

[placid mica]

It's more of a replacement for a fallback

So you still get a preview of the persons avatar without turning it on

[cinder pulsar]

fair

I never had the issue with mine so idk

[left wharf]

i think that might be vrchat side bug. there's a canny about that -> https://feedback.vrchat.com/impostors/p/impostors-sometimes-t-posing-randomly
if you have this issue, paste avatar id to StormRel's post (yea, if you don't want, you don't have to do)

[placid mica]

I didn't know this was such a rare issue. I've seen this absolutely EVERYWHERE

About half of the imposters I see are t-posing, lol

[ivory whale]

Hi, does somebody know what the difference between the FX ans the Animator -> Controller on an avatar is? Both are animation controllers

[timber wharf]

@ivory whale https://creators.vrchat.com/avatars/playable-layers/

tldr for humanoid avatars you have 5 layers each of them is separate animator in unity.

on upload they get compiled into a single final animator automatically

[ivory whale]

yeah, I see, I was just completely confused from yesterday because I tried to make a facial expression functionality by turning off tracking on eyelids when doing so but never got it to reset itself on disable

it's still a bit confused about how the system works

I tried it (with set defaults on) by gating my animation between 2 tracking toggles which should make it safe but it seens like it still somehow kills itself

so i should make a playable layer for that i think

[timber wharf]

fx is a playable layer

you need to switch tracking state off (animation) and then back on after youre done

[ivory whale]

lemme check what i did there

[timber wharf]

https://creators.vrchat.com/avatars/state-behaviors/#animator-tracking-control

[ivory whale]

but i dont know how i would do that with a toggle for my facial expressions

cuz it aint blocking

and i don't even know how i get it to wait for the user to disable the facial expression

[timber wharf]

well ye better bring some pics of layers to see what youre trying

[ivory whale]

yes

[ivory whale]

but i think that's not how you should use the avatar parameter driver

[timber wharf]

well you just need two layers for that

[ivory whale]

how?

[timber wharf]

uh + button on the left?

[ivory whale]

no I mean, how should i split it into 2 layers

[timber wharf]

like this goes into separste layer and then it runs independently. no need for anystate there.

[ivory whale]

or why

[timber wharf]

well cause only one node can be active at a time

so if it goes into expression it cant go to action or smth

[ivory whale]

yes but this thing now decides whether it has an ongoing facial expression or not

and if not it tries to reset the tracking if it needs to

and if yes it sets tracking

[timber wharf]

wait i see what you did, thats

[ivory whale]

but it think it just doesn't work because it isn't intended for this kind of stuff, or isn't it like that? (I mean the parameter driver)

[timber wharf]

overall thats a bit overcomplicated. do you need toggleable via menu facial expressions?

[ivory whale]

yes

and also hand

but let's ignore hands first

[ivory whale]

btw I forgot, this sets tracking state to animation (I removed it previously)

[timber wharf]

well, entry -> idle (with set to tracking) <-(if face = X/face is not X for back)->animation (with tracking switching to animation)

[ivory whale]

for what even is entry

[timber wharf]

entry is just start point. also it goes there after exit

but you dont need exit or anystate

[ivory whale]

so what's the difference between any state and entry?

nothing?

[timber wharf]

entry fires once. anystate will fire every time some condition became true

or you can do it via anystate

[ivory whale]

oh, but how does vrchat handle playable layer weights then if it has 2 triggers

[timber wharf]

anystate, face=0 - goto idle(tracking), face =X - goto animation(animation)

@ivory whale what

execution order or what

[ivory whale]

yes

[timber wharf]

well, just dont make it competing in your logic🤷‍♂️

[ivory whale]

I see xd

[timber wharf]

layers themselves have priority, lower layer=higher priority. inside layer itself shouldnt expect anything

[ivory whale]

im trying something new

isn't it possible for me to let it wait for the animation to get cancelled user-driven

with entry

so i do something like this here

(look at Fun)

[timber wharf]

what

[ivory whale]

just infinite looping on the animation until the boolean changes

and then set back to tracking mode

[timber wharf]

you do it by having exit condition

ie next transition checks CurrentFace not equal 1

[ivory whale]

does it wait then?

[timber wharf]

ye

[ivory whale]

last time it somehow didn't

[timber wharf]

next condition is false so its stuck there

well you had anystate

so it could always jump to anystate transitions if one if them is true

[ivory whale]

so like this?

or disable exit time?

[timber wharf]

well it shouldnt matter

i guess your anims are short

[ivory whale]

ah what does exit time even do

i thought it auto exists after it hangs for too long

[timber wharf]

exit time doesnt let exit current state even if the next transition is true unless X (75%) of animation was played

but if transition is false it wont go anywhere

[ivory whale]

ohh

[timber wharf]

like you start reload gun animation, it must play fully untill it goes idle

[vague ember]

i set up most of the things correctly

[ivory whale]

omg

it works

xd

thx

I now also know why it didnt work last time

i think i uhh

didn't point all ways to Exit

(as I used Entry)

[timber wharf]

exit and anystate are optional

you can always just go back to idle with the same effect

[ivory whale]

ye but as I empty-ended it it went stuck

is it a good practice to set transition time to 0 on functional transitions?

like this

(Action is just empty)

[timber wharf]

ye

and for toggles as well. but not faces

[ivory whale]

I think the best way would be to set the parameter via the parameter driver in the hand controls

so i don't need double-handlings

[frigid adder]

Can someone upload a avatar to me

[junior void]

thats kinda not allowed

[serene warren]

Has anyone ran into this problem while uploading avatar? Seemslike something is wrong with modular avatar?

[vague ember]

out of nowhere my toggle lost all its textures along with the other material changes it had, is there a reason to this?

[serene warren]

Problem solved by updating modular avatar to latest version

[warped scroll]

asking again, I'm getting a weird issue where the toggle for my character's third eye won't work properly. When I select the option to open it in the radial menu, it will open, however, there's no spinny arrows that appear and I can't close it again.

[somber sequoia]

can you show how the toggle is setup?

[warped scroll]

exit is just the same thing but with the false condition

[junior void]

perhaps the menu control is not a toggle but set to something else

[warped scroll]

i thought of that, but no it is set as a toggle

[somber sequoia]

yeah this looks fine

[junior void]

test in play mode if the parameter is diven

if so, its gotta be in the animation

[warped scroll]

ive been testing it with the gesture emulator

[crisp wave]

hi. i need some help with replacing avatar's model. i have an avatar, and it's author allowed to edit and use avatar however i want. i have unity asset with avatar(animations, custom emotions, etc), maya files (i dont have maya, so not relatable for me), fbx file and textures(avatar can switch between them, im not sure how.)
i tried to just edit the fbx file. first problem - for some reason the model after importing in blender doesnt have texture.
ok, i tried edit a little bit model - i added a scarf, parented it to armature, wieghtpainted. when i imported it to unity, now i have no idea how to replace the model. i tried to follow many many many tutorials, but they doesnt work, i tried to use pumpkin tool, but it doesnt work too.
is there any chance how to just replace the model, without ruining the avatar or i can only create new one from scratch?
im sorry if this is stupid question, but im noob in vrchat avatars thing, i just need some help...

[ornate stump]

You might have to explain more detail of what it does rather than "doesn't work".

[crisp wave]

um. well. its just not working. i dont know how to explain.

[junior void]

maybe it helps to refer to what youre expecting and how that expectation isnt fulfilled

[ornate stump]

What isn't working? Do you mean the scarf? Model rigging? Or something else?

[crisp wave]

idk

[junior void]

now its getting silly

[ivory whale]

btw when using hand gestures, should i put it in the animator controller or in the FX layer? (it toggles stuff that gets processed in FX later)

[crisp wave]

im just tried to follow tutorials and the model replacing isnt working

[junior void]

you wont get help for "idk" and "its not working"

[crisp wave]

well. i wanted to open the avatar in unity. replace the model with new one i modified in blender so it will be the same avatar but just model is replaced. and it didnt worked bcz the new model does not replace the old one as it was in all tutorials i have tried

[junior void]

what happens when you replace the model

and how are you replacing it

[jade falcon]

im having the same issue

[crisp wave]

im importing new fbx, change in the "rig" tab the type to humanoid,placing the imported fbx in scene. open pumpkin tool, select the old and new models. click "copy selected" in "copy components".

[ornate stump]

Did you actually assign parameter file into avatar descriptor?

[crisp wave]

result:

[jade falcon]

ya

[ornate stump]

Do you have more than one avatar in the scene?

[jade falcon]

yea but theyre all off and the one that is on has no avi descripter n is for the thumbnail

[crisp wave]

i have no idea at all how to replace model, and following tutorials not working. thats why i came here to ask help how to do it. i have no knowledge at all and the information in internet doesnt help. thats why im asking people now 😭

[ornate stump]

My final verdict would be you might had a wrong parameter file assigned in your avatar descriptor. The screenshot you provided had limited information to tell what's going on.

[crimson drum]

hello i just started making avatars from scratch and everything seems fine till i click gesturemanager this is what happens to my clothes and in game too i have watched multiple videos and have done what they say and i am just at a lost of how to fix this. can anyone help?

[ornate stump]

How did you put on the cloth?

[crimson drum]

i edited it blender first and then i took it to unity and put it on

[ornate stump]

On side note, that isn't "from scratch" rather it should be called "kit bash".

[crimson drum]

ah i see!

[ornate stump]

You have to make sure that the cloth and body armature are the same, in both name and location, and weight paint on cloth must match with what the body has.

[warped scroll]

i looked all over my controllers, there is no parameter driver controlling the third eye toggle

[crimson drum]

okay i will check it out thanks!

[gloomy flint]

ok so since kapa.ai is completely useful

dawgs i am so tired of the fact that i cant ever seen to edit animation clips in unity

every. single. time. for every single avatar or prefab if i find an issue or need to swap out what animation clip calls what material even! they're always greyed out and literally nothing ever tells me HOW to actually make animation clips editable!!!

[balmy barn]

animation need to be on something before you can record (mesh/gameobject/whatever)

[gloomy flint]

they are!!!

i'll actively be working on trying to fix material issues that happen because of animation clips and i can't edit them despite the avatar being right there in the scene and NOT in prefab mode!

[ornate stump]

Did you have animator component and controller assigned to the component?

[gloomy flint]

i'm trying to reposition an unpacked prefab and everything is on the avatar, FX, write defaults, etc, it works even in Gesture Manager and AV3Emulator

I just.. Am not allowed to edit the animation clips.

that are right there

[ornate stump]

Can you screenshot animator component to confirm?

[gloomy flint]

I need to reposition a couple of restraints to line up correctly and apparently the only way to do that for this prefab is to edit the animation clips used for the mouth and i'm so tired dude i don't know why they couldn't simply use normal constraints 😭

[balmy barn]

no difference setting up vrcconstraint

[gloomy flint]

this component or-

[balmy barn]

The animator on the mesh/object

[gloomy flint]

where would that be 😭

usually if a prefab can be moved between multiple spots, each spot has one singular parent constraint and you dont have to fidget with it too much you just unlock, move, lock done! but noooo we gotta be fancy

[balmy barn]

sounds like more work then just using the component

[ornate stump]

That's animation panel. Animator component is the one you added to your avatar object.

In the same way as avatar descriptor.

[gloomy flint]

found out how to add one

[balmy barn]

avatar : none wont work

[wise wharf]

I don't know where to really go for this, but when I merged the vertices of the neck to the head they kinda did this and its all shadowy and doesn't look that seamless or smooth. Is there like a quick fix for this or am I going to have to fix the uv map in that area or something?

[gloomy flint]

i know none wont work, dawg... i literally JUST added it.

[balmy barn]

animator should auto add that, not go to none

also auto if its humanoid

[somber sequoia]

you may be able to select the faces and do "reset vectors" in the normals menu. Definitely check the UV map too though.

[modest bloom]

i'l mak this mastepiec!!!!

[gloomy flint]

ugh im just going to scrap the prefab itself and find something easier to work with that isn't held together by hatred and scotch tape

[wise wharf]

where do i find reset vectors?

[junior void]

"in the normals menu"

[somber sequoia]

alt+n or mesh -> normals

[wise wharf]

thank you

[severe crown]

im trying to do a material swap with these two textures of the tattoo of two different skin tones. i already sucessfully did it without the tattoos how do i throw on the tattoos on the avatar and use the radial menu?

[placid mica]

Search for a tutorial of how to make radial material swaps. There's a few good tutorials
Easier to watch it happen then try to follow through text

[severe crown]

Thank you!!

[round comet]

Anybody fancy with physbones? Gotta fix them on my personal Shinano for her ears and tail.

My bf mentioned something about limiters?

The tail and ears just move too much. The ears will flip over themselves

Also used the stiffness setting enough but don’t want her ears or tail too stiff

Since they have animations

[somber sequoia]

yeah use an angle limiter, I use about 45 degrees

[round comet]

Angle limiter at 45°, got it

[somber sequoia]

adjust for your avatar obviously

[round comet]

Thank you Kazin. You’re always very helpful

Mhm, it’s for a personal. The ears and tail are from different sets as well

[somber sequoia]

the curve may be useful too, make them have less angle at the root and more at the end. I do this for tails too to prevent them from doing weird things

[round comet]

You can sorta see her tail here in blender

[somber sequoia]

wow pink

[round comet]

But its one of those puppy tails that curves up and over

Yehh my blender pink LOL

More pink in unity

[severe crown]

so i tried to throw the tattoo one but when i turned it into a materail swap for radial it did this i just want the tattoo on both skins tones and make it into the radial\

[severe crown]

I got it

[frigid adder]

Can someone upload a avatar to me i need to clone it i give money for it

[onyx pecan]

Ask vrctraders

[left gull]

1: giving someone your account info is risky 2: you'll only get scam DMs about that here, and if its a premade model you purchased contact the creator 3: once another user logs into your account both of your account will be joined (as in you will appear as that users alt account so if they recieve a punishment/ban of any kind it will also fall onto your account)

[frigid adder]

I say i clone it

[onyx pecan]

@frigid adder do you have a pc of your own?

[frigid adder]

No

Only vr

[onyx pecan]

It doesn't need to be a gaming pc to upload with Unity

[balmy barn]

if its a bought avatar their tos usually against giving the files for it to others or straight up 'do not set this to public'

[frigid adder]

I have a pc but it dont have a grafic card

[timber wharf]

you dont need proper one to upload

[onyx pecan]

I have Quest only friends who uploaded avatars with basic pc

Even using Blender

[balmy barn]

not sure how low unity or blender can go before it goes , nu uh , used it on a ancient nvidia 560m once

[onyx pecan]

Definitely not Windows XP

@frigid adder If you hava an official vrchat account, you can sign into your account at the vrchat website, and go to download

Tab

[frigid adder]

I have try i cant

[timber wharf]

@balmy barn blender says broadwell igpu is minimal so 5xxx series.

ie 10 years old

[onyx pecan]

So just before Windows 10 came out

[timber wharf]

i dont think theres a single reason to run a 64 bit system and not win10. oh except some ancient mobile igpus from radeon dont support it.

[languid wyvern]

Quick question guys. If you upload to android and you don't own a quest, can a questie clone such a model from you? Or do you have to wear a quest in order for the questie to clone it?

[onyx pecan]

It will have to be set to public for them to clone

[somber sequoia]

You'd need to wear the avatar either way, you can just upload it for both versions, they'd only get the quest

[languid wyvern]

Brilliant! Thanks

[onyx pecan]

If you have a qualifying Android phone, and it's poor or better, you can see the Quest version yourself. Very poor is iffy switching between showing, and showing your fallback atm

[round comet]

Anyone aware of how to fix overlapping expressions aside from taking them off one hand? I assume it relates to shutting off write defaults

[timber wharf]

@onyx pecan uh android phones dont show very poor like period, arent they

[onyx pecan]

I do have pics and videos shown in this server over the holiday week

Others too

[timber wharf]

@round comet well, easiest way would be to have every other expression in animation clips to be set to 0

[round comet]

Oo so how do I go about that? A bit dumb with some unity stuff

[void kettle]

How do I add a png texture to an avatar? 😭

[round comet]

You put the png in whatever material slot

[somber sequoia]

you put the image in a material, then the material into a material slot on some mesh object.

[timber wharf]

@round comet find and edit clips so it sets other stuff to 0 on top of setting one expression to 100.

[round comet]

Ohh I see

Someone mentioned in another server a reset layer. Would that be helpful?

[timber wharf]

reset layer wont help you with having two expressions at a time

[round comet]

I see

[timber wharf]

well maybe my idea isnt great either, one hand will always override the other

[round comet]

Yeye I’m fine with it overriding as long as expressions don’t overlap in-game

[timber wharf]

idk, i always do both hands in one layer

[round comet]

Like if I have a peace sign and an open hand the expressions mesh into one

And get all weird

In-game I mean

[somber sequoia]

yeah using one layer for this makes it easy

[round comet]

Ok! Good to know

I’m just not too well versed on fx stuff

[left gull]

if its cloning that might be fine, though if its a purchased model many/most prohibit public uploads and filesharing like thulen said earlier

[fierce field]

How do i add vrcfury via vpm

[somber sequoia]

vpm add com.vrcfury.vrcfury

add the repo first though.

[fierce field]

Oki, thx, i assume you mean vrcsdk?

[somber sequoia]

me? no?

I mean you need to add the vrcfury repository to vpm's list before you can use it

(I forget the url but it should be listed on the vrcfury website)

[fierce field]

Oki

Ok, what command do I use

I can't figure out vpm to save my life

Nvm

I forgor google is a thing

[cosmic igloo]

Does anyone know how to fix auto rigged models? Like bone renaming and weight paint fixing, if someone could do it for me a few times i'd pay

[glass wind]

i am making a cartoon can someone please make an avatar for it

dm if you can help

[fierce field]

Pay someone to do it

[glass wind]

meh has no money

[fierce field]

Then don't expect to find someone to do it for free

[onyx pecan]

Go to vrctraders. https://discord.com/channels/189511567539306508/1204506421631393913

[placid mica]

:ooo how did u make it pink

[round comet]

Its a theme! I found it online. I can dm it to you if you’d like

[placid mica]

Oh I'd love that, yes please!

[round comet]

Alrighty :-D

[timber wharf]

@cosmic igloo use mixamo it generates very nice rig

[fierce field]

How do I add vrcfury via vpm? It wont let me, and the documentation for adding vrcfiry via vpm is nonexistent

[glass wind]

i have like 3 dollars cash

[fierce field]

^

[cosmic igloo]

What im trying to do is fix something to have like a vrc ready armature while keeping blendshapes, would it do that?

[misty pelican]

I need help

[timber wharf]

@cosmic igloo no, it rigs from scratch with new armature

[misty pelican]

I bought i Avatar and i got a PC version and Quest version. I have no problems with the PC version but the Quest version dont want to work

[misty pelican]

https://youtu.be/jDNHcNi87qs, Link is offline bc of Privacy issues

[timber wharf]

@cosmic igloo i mean blendshapes should be fine.

[cosmic igloo]

Okay i'll try that, thank you

[fierce field]

How do i figure out where vpm sent the repo i just downloaded

[cosmic igloo]

Is it like an addon or what is it?

[glass condor]

Anyone here familiar with Blender and Unity? I tried to export an FBX from Unity into Blender and it loads like...this.

[fierce field]

Malwere, I love your name, great pun

[glass condor]

It's supposed to be a suit of armor wtf

[glass condor]

oh thanks!

[left gull]

contact the creator about it though im guessing their package is outdated since very few creators actually make their quest versions optimized

[somber sequoia]

did you need to actually export? It may be there's a .fbx file in your project you can just load into Blender

[glass condor]

I checked, it could be in the unity package, but I don't know how to open that.

[somber sequoia]

well it'd be in your project, right?

[glass condor]

besides, I modified the model a bit (deleted extra parts) in unity and I want to import that instead of the base version, which has a lot of doodads and stuff that would be annoying to delete in blender

[somber sequoia]

in Blender: file -> import -> import fbx, find that file

[glass condor]

but I'm not sure that would do something like this tho

[misty pelican]

I already had a conversation with him, and he doesnt have the Problem and he suggested to me to talk to VRChat support. I thought i could get help here

[somber sequoia]

yeah that's not really going to work well that way

[glass condor]

I'll try

[fierce field]

I still don't know how to get vrcfury into my project via vpm

[dense sphinx]

my blender is broken my avatar model and textures brake a bit whenever i press fix model like the eyes texture is just not there and the shoes have holes and arent the right shoe

[somber sequoia]

what part about what I told you didn't work?

[pulsar marsh]

Hi everyone this is just me being a Blender noob but how is it that my textures are applies but i cant see them in normal view? However i can only see them in Texture Paint Mode?

[somber sequoia]

the little bubbles at the upper right of the main view there are render modes, probably you aren't in the one with material preview

[fierce field]

Nvm, im stupid

[pulsar marsh]

Yes thank you haha

[next yew]

how do i ensure gesture mode is choosing the correct asset when going in playmode?

it says my avatar dosent have a descriptor when it does, so im thinking its choosing one of the toggles when i enter playmode instead of the avatar itself

[somber sequoia]

disable the other avatars.

[next yew]

no other avatars in scene

just one

only recent thing i added was another model

[somber sequoia]

not sure why it'd choose another asset then

[dense sphinx]

my blender is broken my avatar model and textures brake a bit whenever i press fix model like the eyes texture is just not there and the shoes have holes and arent the right shoe

[oak bone]

Install fbx exporter on unity, then export the model you have in your hierarchy

[junior void]

what makes you think you must click fix model

[somber sequoia]

isn't that just for vroid models?

[somber meadow]

It's for MMD models mainly

[glass condor]

yeah that's what I'm using lol

[somber meadow]

you don't export models from Unity at all, you should already have the model file somewhere in your assets

[somber sequoia]

that's ideal, yeah

[dense sphinx]

can you help me

[somber sequoia]

you haven't shown us anything about what you mean, so there's really nothing we can suggest at this point

[glass condor]

I did find it, thankfully, I'll just have to do my edits again tho.🤷🏿‍♀️

[somber sequoia]

I have no idea what you are trying to show here

[left gull]

Did the model come with instructions that you might've skipped over? if not then can you explain a bit better what you mean by " dont want to work "

[somber sequoia]

Yeah assume nobody here has ever seen your model or project, so you have to explain everything in detail

[oak bone]

Why are you pressing fix model? What are you trying to do

[dense sphinx]

i realy dont know im using a two year old tut

[somber sequoia]

okay so again: what are you trying to do?

[pulsar marsh]

Hi Again, Sorry but with CATS when i try merges the pants (Ameture002) to body (Armature) The bones of the pants i thought are supposed to dissapear and assume the bones of the Body?

I know i could delete the bones of the pants and merge the meshes but AFAIK the weight paint wont transfer ?

[somber sequoia]

weight paint is in vertex groups on the mesh, not the armature

the mapping is based on name - vertex group name matches bone name

[pulsar marsh]

okay so should i just delete the bones of the pants and then merge?

[timber wharf]

change armature modifier so it points to a different armature, test

[somber sequoia]

I generally don't merge. I'd name the pants vertex groups to match the avatar's bones (if needed) and just change the armature modifier

[pulsar marsh]

i dont think im unerstanding you actually

okay

[glass condor]

Quick basic Blender question: I made a pose in pose mode but it doesn't stick when I switch to Edit mode. Is there anyway to make it stay?

[raven orbit]

you can apply the pose as rest pose, there's a few tutorials on youtube about this

[glass condor]

yeah I click on that function and it just resets back to the previous pose (I'm trying to put it into a T-pose, but it's default is an A pose)

[raven orbit]

I said to look up tutorials because it's more complicated than just clicking that option in the armature

You have to apply the armature modifier as well

[somber sequoia]

Click the "edit mode" button in the armature modifier, at the top

[raven orbit]

Oh that too

[somber sequoia]

you shouldn't need to apply for this unless you want this pose to be the actual rest pose

[raven orbit]

It probably should be a t pose anyway

[somber sequoia]

but.... editing while the armature is posed isn't really ideal either - what are you trying to do?

oh T-pose, sorry, I caught up

[glass condor]

switch it from A pose to a t pose

[somber sequoia]

so yeah, you would apply that if you want to switch to T pose

[glass condor]

top where?

[somber sequoia]

of the armature modifier - but this isn't the thing you want to do here if you're trying to actually change it

[glass solar]

so my generic avi has a toggle but the default state overrides the locomotion so it only plays one animation, any way I can fix this?

[glass condor]

so what do I really do to change from A pose to t pose...?

[fierce field]

How do I add the vrcfury component? My hierarchy looks like this

[somber sequoia]

apply the armature modifier, as others said

[somber sequoia]

which component?

[fierce field]

Idk

[somber sequoia]

figure that out first then

[fierce field]

I don't have an asset thing in my hierarchy

I just wanna add gogo

[somber meadow]

you just need gogoloco, and vrcfury imported into the project. Open the gogo folder and drag whichever gogoloco variant prefab you want onto your avatar in the hierarchy

[fierce field]

Ok

So i don't have to actually set up vrcfury?

[somber sequoia]

there's not really any setup

[fierce field]

I have to link it don't I

Wait, that's for clothes, still wanna do that eventually, but def not as important

[somber meadow]

The components are already setup in the prefab

[fierce field]

Ok

It didn't add a toggle

[somber meadow]

screenshot your hierarchy

[glass condor]

I got my pose working! Time for another silly question ig 💀 I'm adding a clothing item to an avatar that I got from Booth in Blender. But the clothing item is an fbx with bones in it. Do I delete the bones after I've posed it?

[somber meadow]

You're using the wrong prefab

[fierce field]

ok, which one should I use

[somber meadow]

There's 2 prefabs inside the root gogo folder

[fierce field]

I have demo, goloco, and gomodel

[somber meadow]

go into the GoLoco folder, inside that folder should be 2 prefabs with "VRCFury" somewhere in their name

[fierce field]

Oh, found it

Thank you

So I use Gogoloco all?

[quick path]

Anyone know why the arms is not bending correctly for crossing arm and stuffs?

[somber meadow]

If you want flying, you would want beyond. That's their main differences

[fierce field]

I need quest compatibility

[somber sequoia]

doesn't matter

[fierce field]

Oki

Tf? It says my rig isn't set to humaniod, it absolutely is set to humaniod

[night ember]

you are stretching out the arms

[quick path]

I'm not tbh that's why I'm confused

[night ember]

you are stretching out the arms of the model

[quick path]

It looks like it but its not , irl I'm crossing my arms like normal but it ended up like that

[grizzled crow]

Can kitbashing avatars break expressions?

[somber sequoia]

hard to say since "kitbashing" is such a broad concept

[somber meadow]

that's because you opened the prefab, click the back arrow on the top left of the hierarchy. Drag it into the avatar in the hierarchy instead of double clicking it

[grizzled crow]

I merged the head and arms of one avatar with the body and legs of another. My avatar has the blend shapes for the facial expressions, which do work in blender, but it doesn’t work after exporting it to unity then vrchat

[clear ermine]

guys i just found out substance painter costs money, there any good free alternatives to make avis?

[somber sequoia]

for 3d, there's also ArmorPaint, blender add-ons ucuPaint and LayerPainter, probably more

[somber sequoia]

are the blendshapes missing, or what does "doesn't work" mean?

[fierce field]

I did drag it

ok, it was bc I had it in prefab view

[grizzled crow]

the blendshapes work in blender for my avatar, and work the same as a base ampwave, but ingame, the face is stuck in a blank expression regardless of what I do

[somber sequoia]

Do they work if you move them manually in Unity?

[grizzled crow]

hm... ima try that

[grizzled crow]

wait.. how do I move them manually?

[somber sequoia]

inspector for the mesh object, under "blendshapes" - drag sliders while watching the object

[wind skiff]

select the mesh and open the blendshapes dropdown in the skinned mesh renderer component

[grizzled crow]

ok... all of the blendshapes work as expected in Unity

[wind skiff]

show the vrc avatar descriptor on the root of the avatar

[somber sequoia]

especially the "playable layers" part

[wind skiff]

i was thinking lipsync

[somber sequoia]

ah yes, if we're talking specifically visemes

[wind skiff]

click detect automatically below the mode selector

[grizzled crow]

ah.. these look right

[wind skiff]

looks good

also, check the humanoid avatar definition and make sure the jaw bone is not mapped

otherwise, it will always be slightly open in game

[grizzled crow]

I already unmapped that bone, but I did double check and the jaw is unmapped

[glass condor]

Guys, I need help, I'm adding a clothing item to an avatar that I got from Booth in Blender.

But the clothing item is an fbx with bones in it. Do I delete the bones after I've posed it? I've gone ahead and sculpted it, do I delete the armature in the clothing before I weightpaint it to my avi?

Or should I keep the bones? Anybody?

[somber sequoia]

do you want to add it in blender or unity? if in blender, I'd look at the clothing armature, and if there are any bones not in the base avatar, consider how you'll merge those. If not, then just delete that, use the avatar's armature, and make sure all the clothing vertex group names match the avatar's bones

[glass condor]

blender

[wind skiff]

if you changed it to use your base avatar's armature, you can delete its own armature

[glass condor]

both avatars have legs, spines, hips, etc, the only thing that the outfit has that the avatar doesn't have are a few extra bones in the cloth part of it

[glass condor]

how do I do that?

[glass condor]

Also if I do combine armatures, do I still have to weigh paint the clothing?

[junior void]

Mesh has to always be weight painted in order to move

[somber sequoia]

I usually strip out anything but the add-on bones, join that to the avatar's armature, and re-parent them accordingly.

[somber sequoia]

if it's already rigged, it's probably weight painted, that was why I said to check vertex group names, that's where weight paints are stored

[glass condor]

ok, so delete the legs and arms and stuff that are the same as the avi, then fuse the mesh and its remaining bones to the avatar. then parent those remaining bones?

[junior void]

Also make sure vertex group names are the same

If clothings arm is called "lower arm l" and base body is "ArmLowerL", they wont work together

Case matters iirc

[glass condor]

ok I'll see what I can do

[cunning grove]

is there a way to fix this?

[somber sequoia]

always explain "this".
I'm guessing it's the crease? Fix weight painting.

[glass condor]

are these the vertex groups?

[somber sequoia]

Look in the properties box, in the orange triangle section. That's more useful than in the hierarchy.

but yes, I believe so

[cunning grove]

I don't know how to weight paint yet

[somber sequoia]

no time like the present for learnin' 🙂

[glass condor]

uhh I see this, do I delete the ones for parts of the mesh that don't exist anymore?

for example, the "distal_finger" parts on the mesh got removed

[somber sequoia]

up to you

I don't know what they're used for so couldn't give useful advice

[glass condor]

oh those were finger on a glove that I removed, since that mesh/vertices are gone, I guess I can just remove them.🤷🏿‍♀️

[somber sequoia]

seems reasonable

[glass condor]

ok, deleted all the vertex groups and bones I don't need, now...how do I fuse the remaining bones and it's mesh to the avatar exactly?

I should mention that the only bone I kept in the clothes that has the same name with the avi is the Hips, should I delete that too, orrrr...?

[somber sequoia]

fuse?

you connect an armature to a mesh object with an armature modifier on the mesh

oh! merge armatures? select source, then target, then ctrl+j

not really an avatar development question, maybe ask in general or #1138891887374237706 ?

[spark walrus]

oh sure

my bad

i will delete

[rocky gyro]

Question: I am trying to add this Avatar Asset and i'm not sure what I am doing wrong here. It shows in the manual that there should be a window called, Okaeri. But on my end it does not show after importing the custom package.

[somber sequoia]

FYI that's an old Unity, you might consider updating that.

[rocky gyro]

I did downgrade the Unity program so that it was the same one used in the tutorial because I was having the same issue with the new version

[somber sequoia]

ah, you'll want to downgrade the VRChat SDK too then.

For this issue, any errors in the console?

[rocky gyro]

So I downloaded the SDK version it tells me to in the manual and its for the 2022 Unity version. So setting that up now

[somber meadow]

You can only use SDK 3.4.2 on 2019

[rocky gyro]

They have me using SDK 2.4.1

Ah I see! When I start a new project, it downloads the newest SDK. Got it!

Nvm, i'm dumb. That is for the creator companion. I'm just going to make a 2022 Unity Program and see what happens ig

[outer veldt]

I wanna mess about with avatars but for some reason I seem to be completely incompetent with Unity and the VRCSDK. What are some good resources to help me learn? I hate the feeling of bashing my head against the wall not knowing what things do, how/why they work or how to do anything.

[heavy zephyr]

https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLt8qiEFqNHFkPqpKLnVRx-G78mGvjPbFt&si=oSgB0NndFKdLiHZy

playlist by Sippbox, as a lot of good tutorials for basics

https://docs.vrchat.com And also the classic but still useful official docs

[outer veldt]

Appreciate it, I'll review stuff when I've stopped pulling my hair out over things 😓

[heavy zephyr]

If you need help about something specific don't hesitate

[grave creek]

hay i have made a new avatar and when i upload it all it dose in game is t pose

[somber sequoia]

possibly it's not setup with a humanoid rig?

[grave creek]

it is

even the camera is in the middle of the head even though the descriptor is properly placed

[left gull]

if the model's .FBX is 100% set to humanoid check that its weightpainted properly

[fallen cosmos]

im trying to upload my first avatar but i dont know how to fix these, i have the rigging right i think? and all the stuff i see online is confusing so i dont know what to do (this is the first time ive used unity)
oh and the model didnt import with its materials so its all gray

[somber sequoia]

"Hips" should be in the hips slot, not "Armature"

in the hierarchy, open up Armature so you can see the Hips bone, drag it into that slot.

[fallen cosmos]

oh thank you sm

i didnt even notice it wasnt hips

[somber sequoia]

I've seen that a few times recently

[fallen cosmos]

it still has the same like thingies

[somber sequoia]

click done or apply or whatever it is at the bottom

[fallen cosmos]

i did

[somber sequoia]

ah then there's some other issue too

[fallen cosmos]

shucks

[dark saddle]

Anyone have a better example of Extra Child Transforms for imposter settings? Im not exactly understanding the documentation.

[clear tapir]

is there a way to make particles render in front?

[dark saddle]

Im trying to understand visually basically. What does it even allow?

[clear tapir]

like make them appear even when cliping through the avatar

[somber sequoia]

probably increase the render queue value in the shader

[clear tapir]

im using default quest shaders

i want to make that appear when speaking yet also not clip through my body

the reason im making it a particle is so it can be properly visible any way you look at it

[somber sequoia]

ah, I bet you can't do that with those

[lament crest]

if this was a vrm originally did you take it to blender and run cats blender plugin to export it to unity?

[fallen cosmos]

do you export it with cats?

i used cats

[lament crest]

did you do 'fix' model first? and yeah exporting it through cats is what i do, i havent tried it otherwise.

[fallen cosmos]

the tut i used said to not fix it bc it breaks it

should i fix it?

[lament crest]

If you need to make changes in your current unity scene and dont want to 'start over' you can also just re-export as the samefilename.fbx and overwrite the asset in unity

[lament crest]

wdym is there an error screen for this?

[fallen cosmos]

no

[lament crest]

and also 100% make sure you do backups before tryign stuff!

is the tutorial made for that specific avatar? otherwise i would totally run 'fix' as well as create visemes and eyelook with cats in blender

[fallen cosmos]

i shalt

thank you

[lament crest]

for now i would skip atlasing or custom model creating until you have a better grasp on the process and what kind of features you wanna have in game

[lament crest]

yeah cats renames and deletes unused bones so i figured thats why ur rigging doesnt seem right in unity

[fallen cosmos]

but thats what im doiung rn

i made the model already

[lament crest]

err custom model creation is a cats tool that lets you combine armatures* my bad for not specifying

[fallen cosmos]

ohhhh

yeah i was so confused

oh and that was also what i used to connect everything

[lament crest]

aha yeah sometimes that can act a little weird, so definitely run fix after using that

and check stuff out in pose mode before export to make sure all the weights transferred right, sometimes id have weird errors where like suddenly my right arm moves the left arm clothing i added or somethng lol

[fallen cosmos]

how do i export it with cats?

oh nvm

i found it

[lament crest]

should just be at the top right of the cats menu, export and then export it as fbx for unity

i hope this helps get you closer to uploading your model!

[fallen cosmos]

thank you sm!!

[clear tapir]

is there a way to make it flip directions while being looked at?

like depending on where the camera is facing i want the particles to flip like the 3rd image rather then clip through the head

3D or 2D models

[pale cloak]

does anyone have the link for me to import in gogoloco i accidentally delelted it from my files\

[quaint arrow]

Hello, so I'm trying to create an avatar and I've been able to set up his mouth and even some phys-bones correctly, but when I use the avatar in-game all he seems to do is t-pose, I've made sure his rig is humanoid, I can't seem to fix my issue

[clear tapir]

just search up gogoloco 1.8.3 i think

it should be the first result

[clear tapir]

is the humanoid rig properly set up?

[quaint arrow]

Also in the "controllers" section, there's 2 that I can click, yet they do nothing

[quaint arrow]

Welllll there's no red

[idle jetty]

Need help I want audio for my avatar but when I try to upload my avatar it gives me an error. when I click auto fix it deletes the audio source from my avatar. how do I fix

[quaint arrow]

And he doesn't have legs so I didn't attempt at setting them up

[clear tapir]

quest cant have audio

[clear tapir]

you need legs

just dont weightpaint them

but make sure to have the bones

[quaint arrow]

Oh alright, I'll do that

Along with that, is there an easy way to switch out my model while keeping all it's settings? I added like 5,000 things and don't wanna redo all that

[somber sequoia]

you can't use audio on quest

[clear tapir]

no

[quaint arrow]

Oof, alright

[clear tapir]

sadly not as far as i know

[clear tapir]

can someone help me with this

[somber sequoia]

you could use pumkin's tools to copy everything to a new avatar

[quaint arrow]

Also for some reason when I try to do eye poses he just dies but eh

[quaint arrow]

Hm, I'll check that out

[somber sequoia]

or just duplicate the avatar in the scene and disable it, it can stay there as a backup. Just remember if you change anything that's its own file (animations, images, etc.), that's not copied

[quaint arrow]

This good?

[clear tapir]

yes

[somber sequoia]

you could try orienting the particle renderer in the direction of the particle's velocity, it should be one of the settings, the one with "Billboard"

[clear tapir]

i tried that but it only faces one direction

[somber sequoia]

ah yeah, it would

[clear tapir]

i would like it to face the camera but rotate and flip around halfway through the head

something like this

[quaint arrow]

What does this mean? I thought the shoulders were optional?

[clear tapir]

in unity

not in vrchat

[quaint arrow]

Oh

[zinc dagger]

how do i fix this, it only happens when i brought it to android

[clear tapir]

auto fix?

[somber sequoia]

fix what exactly?

[clear tapir]

or the performance, because if its the performance thats normal

[zinc dagger]

im led to believe something in there causes this

[zinc dagger]

thats the unity version

[clear tapir]

Fix that then restart unitu or reload the sdk

[zinc dagger]

this is the one i use normally

also the thing is i already uploaded pc with this

[clear tapir]

reload the sdk

and if that doesnt work close and reopen

[zinc dagger]

how?

sorry, still new to this lol

[dark jay]

can i have someone help me fix the bending issue spent 2 days

fixing it

[glass condor]

sorry if the pic quality is crappy (I'll printscreen if necessary) but in the first pic, I'm trying to join two armatures together. In the second pic, I've joined them together, and it looks...like that. I want it to look the same as the first pic, what do I do?

[flint rose]

it is not really reasonable for a person to make those kinds of movements. when testing, always consider the maximum flexibility of people.

[flint rose]

you may need to apply transforms before joining. Ctrl + A > All Transforms

also, please do not take actual pictures of your screen, use Win + Shift + S to use the snipping tool, and ctrl + V to paste the screenshot in discord.

[glass condor]

ok I'll try that

[glass condor]

yeah my computer runs discord really weird, so I have to use a really roundabout way to take pics sadly 😥

Also, do vrc avatars need knees?

[hybrid arrow]

can anyone help me with this

think i broke something

[gilded smelt]

how do i fix this.

[spark walrus]

Oh wow

[lament crest]

increase your 'trust score' to rank up. vrc+ gives you a base amount of 'trust points' and is only guarenteed to get you a rank up from the visitor rank to new user(I think thats what fpaul said the other day)

[wind skiff]

play game

?upload

[flat musk]

You must obtain at least "New User" Trust Rank in our Trust and Safety system in order to upload content. You can get this by just spending a few hours in VRChat, hop some worlds, and make some friends. Give it some time and you'll be able to upload content in no time.

As an aside, you must have a VRChat account to upload content. That means you can't use a Steam account, Oculus account, or Viveport account to upload content like worlds or avatars.

Source: https://docs.vrchat.com/docs/frequently-asked-questions

[lament crest]

so if you are using the same account you paid for vrc+ on you should be new user rank

[gilded smelt]

any quick way to do that?

PLEASE

[static bough]

vrc+

[gilded smelt]

i have vrc+

[lament crest]

ummm vrc+. you said you paid for it

are you sure its the same account

[gilded smelt]

i have it now

i....

[static bough]

yeah theres 2 accs with your name

[gilded smelt]

.....ffs

[static bough]

oen with vrc+ and one is a vistor

[lament crest]

we gotchu fam

[static bough]

why do you have two accs

[spark walrus]

oh wow

[spark walrus]

Just publish

[gilded smelt]

because im an impatient fuck who got tw oaccounts mixed up

[static bough]

what does impatience due with having two accs

same name jsut one has numbers xd

[spark walrus]

Just publish

[gilded smelt]

nvm that now, are the textures supposed to be like this before uplaod?

[spark walrus]

no

[gilded smelt]

....aw ffs

[spark walrus]

what's it supposed to look like

[gilded smelt]

like this...

[lament crest]

be sure to go thru the motions , check ur rig make sure its humanoid, import ur materials and textures, set up your shaders
in blender did u use 'fix model' with cats blender plugin and set your visemes & eye movement?

[spark walrus]

Isn't he on unity now

[lament crest]

the eyes made me think theres a chance that mightve been skipped in blender

[gilded smelt]

rig is humanoid, i supposeldley imported the textures and matielas

i dunno about shaders

dunno about any plugins

[gilded smelt]

eyes were ok in blender

[lament crest]

so you didnt use cats blender plugin when you were doing stuff in blender? just makin sure

[gilded smelt]

yeah, i went into blender empty

[lament crest]

i would encourage you to unless the person who created the avatar specifically told you not to.
it does a lot of things that streamline the upload process once you get to unity.
really recomment checking out some tutorials on yt

[gilded smelt]

i dont know where to start with all of that. where to get the plugin, how to install it, how to use it, because every tutorial uises their own persoanl model

all of it is overwhelelming and im realizing now i really shouldve just paid someone to do this for me...

3 hrs wasted. at this point, the model is a mess, textures arnt working, i dont know where to start. Im a looser with 2 minimum wage jobs, not a VRChat enthusiast...

[lament crest]

tutorials is the way to go if you feel lost- each model is a bit different depending on where its from but generally all require the same things to be uploaded and functional at a base level.
if ur really struggling find a tutorial that has a an avatar to follow along with, im sure those exist!

[dark jay]

i got it fixed now

question how do animate a tail to move when not moving

[gilded smelt]

Yeah, I don't think a tutorial exists for "KaybelMystic model from sfm to blender to vrchat"

[somber sequoia]

make an animation, loop it, put it in it's own layer.

[gilded smelt]

Especially with alm the "shape keys", "bodygroups" and so much more.

[dark jay]

thats very vague

[somber sequoia]

once it's in Blender most of the standard stuff applies

[somber sequoia]

Feel free to ask further questions.

[gilded smelt]

It went through blender and it looks like crap. All the clothes stacked onto eachother, textures missing, inappropriate bits showing (they were part of the base model)

[lament crest]

maybe not that specific model- but you can look up sfm -> vrchat and get some insight for how to export the filetype properly.

[dark jay]

how do i do What you just said, is there a guide to it

[somber sequoia]

there are many many guides for making animations, and many guides for working in the Unity animator

probably even one for this specific thing

I'm not going to google for you though

[dark jay]

i wanted one for just the tail and alright

[gilded smelt]

I guess even then, it's going to have to be on a day where I have free time because irs 11pm, I wasted 3 hrs of life on this failed experiment and lost a majority of my motivation to even fix any of it.

I wasted money for this. I'm so over it.

[lament crest]

in blender you typically use CATS blender plugin to fix some of those things. then you can edit out the undesired parts using blender- use the tools CATS offers and then export it to unity
consider that no one gets into ventriloquism for the excitement! ofcourse theres gonna be hurdles to overcome and it might not work out perfectly the first time you try it, give it some time and give it another shot after more research 🙂

[gilded smelt]

Thanks for the help. I do appreciate it. I'll see what I can do...

[lament crest]

this certainly isnt a click a few things and it works magically kind of thing- but its a fun challenge!

[gilded smelt]

Wasn't fun for this guy. 3hrs of my Sunday wasted on a failure.

[lament crest]

hey the first step to success can be failure, i cant even begin to describe how many hours i 'wasted' but ultimately i learned from the time i spent doing things wrong and appreciate learning as 'little' as i know now about the basics of uploading

[gilded smelt]

True. The issue with me is, I got two minimum wage jobs. I always come home tired one way or another, unmotivated.

I rarely have time for this kind of stuff.

[lament crest]

so many times i've face palmed realizing i can do 'task a' in ten minutes vs the 3 hours of trial and error the first time i tried accomplishing it XD

[somber sequoia]

this is so familiar

[gilded smelt]

Tomorrow, I'm gonna spend 4-5 hours out of my own home to trick my own dad into thinking I didn't get the day off (because for some reason his ass thinks that's a bad thing) so that's all wasted time

[lament crest]

its gonna happen to me again as soon as i figure out how to record those expressions lmao

[gilded smelt]

I'm feel so fucking drained rn I cant

[lament crest]

thats a bummer. maybe you can use the time to check out some of the vrc documentation or research how to move sfm models to unity using ur phone and make a plan of attack for next time!

[gilded smelt]

Perhaps

[knotty sierra]

Hi, my boyfriend has a haptic suit and we have been trying to get his osc to connect properly. We have run into a few issues while trying to run it. We’ve downloaded and uploaded the correct stuff onto avatars but it doesn’t seem to be working and we’re not too sure about what to do. The main problems are:

• OSC doesn’t detect the haptic connected no matter how many times it’s enabled and disabled and it keeps showing up with errors.

[somber sequoia]

#avatars-osc is probably better for some of that

[gilded smelt]

you know what, fuck it. im uploading it the way it is

ive gotten this fucking far, i wnna see the final result

there. in the game.

im gonna call it "The Failure."

this is what 3 fucking hours of my life amounted to after following a signle 6 minute tutorial video

let this be a lesson. if you want something done right, pay someone else to do it.

[glass condor]

I just finished blender and ported an avi to vrc, it's uhh...

it's stuck in a t-pose. I think I forgot something lmao

anyone help?

[lament crest]

if you spend more time on it, im sure it will turn out the way you want. definetly dont use that in public worlds.

[lament crest]

double check the rig in unity, that its set to humanoid(assuming your avatar is humanoid)

[glass condor]

it is

last time this happened I believe something went wrong during the blender part, but I can't remember the solution 😭

[lament crest]

dang, maybe try to reimport the fbx from blender into unity? run cats again and export it to overwrite the fbx in your unity project and it should just update the model in unity without changing any settings(vrc descriptor, physbones, shaders)

[glass condor]

oh I never ran CATS on the original after finishing it, I can try that and show ya the result before I export!

[lament crest]

Oooo yeah CATS can do a lot to help the unity process become a lot easier, highly recommend

ive never tried to upload an avatar without using cats, the amount of work seems daunting

def recommend doing "fix model" "create visemes" and "create eye look" i think those are what the features are called in CATS

[somber sequoia]

note that "fix model" and "create eye look" aren't for all avatars, just the usual MMD ones.

[glass condor]

yeah I hit fix model and it made my avatar look crunchy...let me take a screenshot of what it's supposed to be vs what cake out after CATS

[somber sequoia]

where did this model come from?

[glass condor]

Booth, trying to add armor that also came from Booth

[somber sequoia]

ah

[glass condor]

this is what it's supposed to be

this is what I get when I use CATS fix model or the Join Mesh button in CATS

(ignore the head, that's just what it looks like without shape keys/blend shapes on) the rest of the body just looks like a tattered mess...

Thing is, the first model has the "stuck in t-pose in vrchat" issue

[somber sequoia]

The MMD Options panel is specifically designed for MMD, VRM, and GMod models. While it may work with other model types, it will likely cause issues with non-supported armature structures. The Fix Model system is not a universal one-click solution and was never intended as such

[glass condor]

ah I see

but that makes me wonder, how can I fix this stuck t-pose thing?

is the mesh not connected to the bones?

[left gull]

if the rig looks correct in the .fbx's humanoid rig settings then its likely not weightpainted properly/at all

[glass condor]

https://youtu.be/bFVfZSbdXIw?si=LtPe4ZjHSGQdklTG I followed this tutorial, the weight painting thing is around 6:50 in the video

does that not work right?

[somber sequoia]

is the clothing you got for a different model, or not already rigged?

[glass condor]

the clothing was rigged with its own bones

[hushed sandal]

the builder says my model is over a couple million triangles but it's only like 800 in blender

[somber sequoia]

I'm not sure why I'd parent with empty groups then, that's an interesting choice

[somber sequoia]

click the auto-fix button to the right of that message

[hushed sandal]

there was none

[somber sequoia]

the model in this video is awful for this

[somber sequoia]

scroll right more?

[hushed sandal]

all of the issues it just said "select"

[somber sequoia]

well then go in the inspector for your model file, in the first tab, enable read/write

[glass condor]

oooooooof it worked so well when I was dressing up a taidum Avi before, I guess it's not a catch all solution 😭

[somber sequoia]

none of this is going to be a catch all solution, even though lots of people seem to think cats is.

[glass condor]

ok I undid the thing with CATS, I'm back with this:

[somber sequoia]

okay..

[glass condor]

i tested it in pose mode, and the armature appears to be separate from the mesh

[somber sequoia]

wrong terms, but I get what you mean

which mesh? does it have an armature modifier?

[glass condor]

all of those meshes have the "Convict armature" modifier

[somber sequoia]

and that points to the one armature named Armature right?

(the name of the modifier is not relevant, just its target)

[glass condor]

crud how do I go back to the normal hierarchy

I clicked on something random by accident 😥

[somber sequoia]

ok those don't show which armature they refer to, but if there's only one in the project, we can just assume and move on

[glass condor]

ok

[somber sequoia]

("convict armature" is the name of the armature modifier, names are arbitrary)

[glass condor]

yep

[somber sequoia]

ok so if you have parts not moving when you pose the armature (in pose mode), check weight painting

[glass condor]

yeah in pose mode it does this (just making sure we're on the same page)

[somber sequoia]

weight painting time

[glass condor]

what happens next?

[somber sequoia]

I can't really teach you how to weight paint

[glass condor]

ah

[somber sequoia]

I mean I could but I'm not going to, there are lots of tutorials for this too

but any mesh that doesn't move with the appropriate bone probably needs to be weight painted to that bone

[lament crest]

it seems really difficult but it can be fun, def check out tutorials and use existing weights as a blueprint for the new weights you need to paint. backups help a lot too lol

[somber sequoia]

always make backups

[hushed sandal]

how would i only fill in specific faces with the fill tool?

oh wait

[somber sequoia]

... in what program?

[hushed sandal]

i meant blender but i meant to send that in blender discord

[somber sequoia]

haha that makes so much more sense 🙂

[hushed sandal]

i mean if you do know that would help cuz nobody's answering me rn in blender discord

[somber sequoia]

I'm guessing it only fills islands, not faces, but I really don't use blender for this

[glass condor]

true

[somber sequoia]

oh, you could tab over to edit mode, select the faces, then tab back to paint mode and enable masking

so it only lets you change what's selected

[fathom current]

How does one go about making a non humanoid avatar I have a rig and animations for the model

[hushed sandal]

marry me

[somber sequoia]

hehe

[glass condor]

I decided to restart from the sculpting point to re-parent the separate armatures of the armor and the convict together, and it looks good...

until I go into Edit Mode on the bones, and I--

wtf is even happening anymore

[somber sequoia]

wait, I thought you had one armature?

[glass condor]

originally, it was two. The armor had a skeleton, and the main avatar had one. I stuck the two separate armatures together after clearing out most of the bones in the armor.😔

I'm trying to edit in the connections, but the model does ...whatever's happening in the second pic.

[somber sequoia]

trying to edit what?

[glass condor]

The bone connections. There's a few bones in the loincloth on the armor that I wish to keep, and I originally parented them to the Hips before. Trying to do that again but the model is doing the second pic

[somber sequoia]

got it.

[glass condor]

what can I do?

[pseudo forge]

Years late but damn my fault

😭

[hushed sandal]

how do i set my avatar to be humanoid?

[sleek bluff]

all i did was add packages to my instance and open it for the first time 😭

[faint ridge]

Hey does anyone know how I can make a gun work on my avatar I'm new to avatar making

[hushed sandal]

i completely messed it up

it's invisible

[quick path]

Anyone know how to fix this
I'm not stretching ny arms out

[white palm]

could someone help me out with this?

[still shuttle]

Configure your avatar and re map it's bones

[white palm]

thanks.

[still shuttle]

Idk if u fixed this already but ur gesture manager is broken, remove it from the package and reimport it and you should be fine

[still shuttle]

Do you still need help with this?

[bitter hemlock]

I’ve got a small problem with the Rexouium 1.6 model. Somehow when I but some shorts/pants one the avatar (Tail bone) the tail stiffens. Someone hat the same issue?

[sacred jetty]

why do the hairs I download always either come like this or just straight up invisible even after changing the texture