quest-general

[gray kiln]

Might be able to help ya tomorrow I’m pretty tired rn so I can’t help rn but does tomorrow work

^^

[haughty coyote]

Yeah totally any time but I might not reply immediately sometimes notifications dont come through

[gray kiln]

Mind if I add ya?

Just so I can DM when I can help to make it easier

[haughty coyote]

Yeah totally, well Ill see ya later but of course dont expect immediate replies.

[gray kiln]

It’s all good

[timber grotto]

They need to fix the crashing for quest since the newest update happend :/

[kindred nova]

It sucks cause it doesn't support one handed controller no more and my left controller has stick drift

[true stump]

What?!

No way

[kindred igloo]

Hey there, still do -- NOT get Eye Tracking working on Quest Pro standalone ---. (Not talking OSC!)

• updated to latest VRC client (reinstalled)
• Eye Tracking confirmed to work in Quest calibration menu.
• VRC client asks for permission (that I grant) to access eye tracking data on startup.

However the avatars eyes just keep staring forward with random moves (guess its the legacy system).
(The eye tracking debug overlays in lauchpad --> settings --> IK/Tracking --> Eyetracking just confirm this)
What am I missing?

[agile prawn]

Make sure that the Quest Pro system level toggles for eye tracking aren't disabled. (There are options to quick disable and reenable eye tracking function, I believe these share status with the standard menu page for eye tracking, so just double check that eye tracking is currently enabled at a system level)

In that same Tracking&IK menu where you see the eye tracking debug option, there are 3 other options that could potentially mess with eye tracking being enabled. "Disable Eye Look Tracking" "Disable Eye Lid Tracking" and "Mic Mute Disables Eye Tracking", make sure all 3 of these are "off" meaning not set to disable

With the eye tracking debug display option enabled, if you see a blue sphere where you were looking, that means that eye tracking is indeed functioning, but if the avatar's eyes aren't moving it could be an avatar specific problem. Try some other avatars to see if any work if that's the case

I've heard in a few cases that after granting eye tracking permission to the VRChat app, a "restart" was required before it started working. I'm unsure if these cases were just an app restart, or shutting down the headset (so full long-press power off) and restarting it again. I'd recommend trying a full headset restart just to be sure

[lilac flicker]

guys the fixed the peformance!

but the one handed mode not yet

[unreal goblet]

Can someone please tell how this happens and how do I fix it?

[kindred igloo]

Wohoo.... I got it working. Thanks.
However, I had all setup as you set. So nothing changed than me going through recalibration (In Quest Menu) and then multiple restarts, including the HMD.
What made it work, unfortunately I can't say.

But what indeed changed: This time I had the blue sphere inside of VRChat where my eyes were looking at.
That did not appear the previous times. After that all worked. Thanks!

[surreal seal]

The 2 new updates broke OSC FBT /: I wonder what to do now

[haughty coyote]

So I'm one handed on VRchat and for some reason when I log into vrc it's tracking a second controller (that I don't have) and I'm not able to move or access the launch pad, I have to use hand tracking to move now

^ is there a fix ? Or am I stuck with hand tracking until I can get a second controller??

[agile harness]

I use hand/finger tracking and an xbox controller to move around now. I’m guessing that they aren’t going to fix the one handed movement thing any time soon. so it’s probably best to just go ahead and buy a new one.

[haughty coyote]

Damn okay, thank you

[haughty coyote]

Fix the crashing bruh

[red thicket]

drinking night makes my screen pitch black whenever i join

[woven shell]

Ong

[surreal seal]

I still think they should roll back the 2 updates

Everyone is suffering, I can't even use my FBT osc [slimevr] ppl crashing left and right

[woven shell]

I'm using driverforvr

I'm have samsung I can't use pinoquest

[arctic spear]

My menu is tilted and I can't find the settings

[haughty coyote]

Why am I stuck at 10mb

[hazy bough]

Why can’t I play with one hand now .

[gray kiln]

That’s what the switched the upload thing to it was a ui mistake before letting you make it higher that’s what it’s supposed to be

[gray kiln]

Quest sucks ass it’s not even the game itself mainly just the headset, vrc is optimized a lot for quest and quest just sucks so bad it can’t handle it

[haughty coyote]

So it's not fixing? Or is getting fixed

[gray kiln]

It’s supposed to stay at 10mb

[remote kestrel]

Wat
How? VRC is literally and very unoptimized on quest

You saying how its the headsets fault is dumb

As big titles such as Resident Evil 4, Bonelab, Blades and Sorcery and even both Walking Dead games are not only huge games with graphics im surprised the quest can even reach to 70+ FPS with no issues

Doesn't even compare to VRChat 15-30FPS and alot of crashing issues

Dont fully blame the quest

But also blame the lazy development of making the game more stable for users to enjoy the game itself

[remote kestrel]

Not to mention the new update that came out (v1296) is the most unoptimized shit update ever for the quest

Literally at times the game refuses to load and forever be stuck at "initializing world..."
This ofc has not happened before in the past like what 30ish updates before? I have been playing VRC for 2 years and this never happened before smh

[wide python]

vr chat is unplayable on quest

not the headset, just vrchat itself

i crash and reload in my home world only to not be able to open my hud

[jade summit]

The quest 1?

[wide python]

2

[jade summit]

Might be worth a reinstall if you haven't tried it already

[wide python]

its the update and ive already tried that, also im sure everyones having problems with the new update

[magic laurel]

PC audio doesn't replay in Quest 2 headset via Airlink, and after I'm done playing -my PC can't playback sound of mp3 files and music production programs.
When deleting PC Oculus software, audio gets back to normal though.

[urban pulsar]

is anyone having a probalem getting into vrchat at all everytime i get into it , its ether a black screen or just three dots

[surreal seal]

Try using a different wifi such as a 5GHZ hotspot on ur phone

[urban pulsar]

i tried

its just vrchat doing this any other game is completely fine

[surreal seal]

Oh

Bro this update is literally pulling my strings, I can start up vrc but there are so much problems

[urban pulsar]

bro every update more shit brakes

[surreal seal]

I still have no idea why they aren't considering pushing back the update

[urban pulsar]

exactly

im gona try to play it on pc alone

[remote kestrel]

Yeah the update screwed with alot of things
My guess is
They screwed up how vrc handles memory even more lul

Im being sent home cause i got "no memory"

also me chilling in the same world for 2 or more hours and havent done anything other then watch a show or movie, like breh

[surreal seal]

And one other thing, not saying they are lazy but I don't see a difference from actual optimization the quality that you can change on quest, the PC and quest have the same exact things except quality [mobile such as avatars and worlds] there are no settings that actually do anything in the prefmance tab and only do stuff FOR PC??? We aren't even on the PC version but we are able to see some shit we can't even mess with????

To make it simple.. we are using the PC version but with mobile graphics. We need a actual difference between the 2 they need to optimize the quest better and make a difference. I get that they are trying to keep the 2 the same or as close as possible but it seems like It can't stay that way

[surreal seal]

I was in the 1's optimized world chilling by myself then crashed

Terrible

Even the EAC update we better then this one /:

[remote kestrel]

What graphics lul
Worlds are made by different people and they try their best to optimize it to quest due to how unoptimized the game is
Ik theres like a few settings for graphic setting for PC...but i dont even see a difference??? (Idk if its just me or not xwx)
Even so idfk why quest users have the ability to see shit we cant even do in the settings
That is laziness at its finest

[surreal seal]

Hm

Lol

[remote kestrel]

xwx

[remote kestrel]

Yeah no VRC Moment

100%

[lusty cypress]

Hi

[haughty coyote]

Theyl release a patch over the week

Devs get the weekend off, nothing will happen with it today

[true stump]

Same

[gray kiln]

Still is the quest it’s very known to be the quest.

I’m not saying all of it is because quest

But one of the causes is quest

[gray kiln]

Yeah well the game didn’t break for me and my friends when it updated

[strong arch]

So is the quest just gonna stay at a max of 10 mb?

Why'd they even take away the option? It's dumb because moving up the MB was OPTIONAL. So even then, it shouldn't matter if people are crashing if that seems to be the reason they took it away.

If they crashed that's their own fault for turning up their MB so high

[chrome eagle]

Agreed

[paper yarrow]

The second I try to freaking Joinna world it kicks me back to the freaking home world. Any suggestions

[haughty coyote]

So ive been seeing alot of this fbt stuff for quest 2 standalone, and I was wondering what is the best app for it. I just tried driver4vr but its very iffy to work with.

[gray kiln]

Was a UI mistake weren’t supposed to be able to change it in the first place

[gray kiln]

Trying clearing ur cache in game

[nimble sable]

Hi, how did you fix this issue?

[gray kiln]

Sometimes just gotta restart ur game

Or turn off and on obc

Or obs whatever it’s called

[twin cloud]

It’s doing that to me too

I don’t think it’s the certain world either been happening to me and my friends it will be fine then freeze the headset crash and even sometimes keep sending you home, think vrchat is having some problems

[remote kestrel]

None of it is??
VRChat handles memory like ass
For Quest and PC
Sending you home cause of "low memory" is total bullshit as you can be in a world alone and face issues you shouldnt be having anyways (like being sent home for bring in your own home for a few hours)
and they cant be bothered to actually optimize shit at all nor make the game stable in any way at all
Literally opening the menu takes away 5-ish FPS and like a second or 2 to just to open it...
The Main Menu is worse
And the Dev's don't even care at all, the lack of laziness to just optimize and remove shit that isnt needed for quest is just hilarious and dumb

[gray kiln]

I mean I haven’t had any problems.

And I’m on quest

[remote kestrel]

You didn't even read what i said

[gray kiln]

All I was saying is quest isn’t the main cause but it plays a factor quest vrc

Isn’t as good as pc vrc

[remote kestrel]

No shit

[gray kiln]

I just read it lol

[gray kiln]

Then there ya go

[remote kestrel]

But the game shouldnt be this awfully unoptimzed

[remote kestrel]

There ya go what???

[gray kiln]

They still most likely plan or working on it, I get it it’s annoying but still it wasn’t originally made for quest 2 so it’s not gonnna be a amazing

[remote kestrel]

Oh

My

Lord

[gray kiln]

Hm?

[remote kestrel]

It doesnt matter whether it was originally on quest or not
The game NEEDS to be optimized enough to even be playable and enjoyable
You saying that is ridiculous in so many ways

[gray kiln]

I understand that.

But me and some friends have been fine

others have problems

But most of my friends game isn’t like that

I know it’s annoying I’m not disagreeing it needs to be optimized.

But that also shows that it factors in with the quest being bad because it has to be optimized

But Ik the updates and other things have a role to play with all the other problems

[remote kestrel]

Bruv idrc whether your game doesnt get any "issues" (which im calling BS btw your most likely are having issues but too blind to notice)

[gray kiln]

Nah I was on for 3-5 hrs yesterday with friends in a black cat and didn’t crash

I’m not that fucking stupid, I’d know if my game crashes and closes I’m not a fucking idiot

I’m not saying other people aren’t having problems

[remote kestrel]

Literally it doesnt need to crash to have issues

Crashes are not the only problem

[gray kiln]

I literally was also just saying I agree the game needs to be optimized so maybe u need to fucking read

Ik I was using it as an example

[remote kestrel]

I can read just fine darling
But you need to understand that it isnt the quests fault but the game itself

[gray kiln]

I just said quest is one of the reasons

Not all or the main reason

[remote kestrel]

Its not...

[gray kiln]

Just one cuz quest isn’t amazing it’s poor quality

[remote kestrel]

B r u h

[gray kiln]

Yes it is.

The game needs to be optimized Ik that that’s one reason, the updates haven’t helped either, and some other stuff

[remote kestrel]

Mhhh

[gray kiln]

.

All I’m saying is I’m a lot of things cause it

[remote kestrel]

Updates are giving us the middle finger
They add shit but cant be bothered to fix the issues on quest

[gray kiln]

I understand that

They will most likely put a patch for this recent update that broke it this week, the devs have weekends off

[gray kiln]

They have with past updates broken stuff and then they do a patch update

All I’m trying to say is I know it’s annoying

It’s stupid I get it it’s annoying when I try to play with Friends and they crash all the time it’s annoying IK

[remote kestrel]

When it comes to avatar parameters and menu not functioning properly at times yea

Or udon shit

[gray kiln]

Mhm, it’s just annoying trying to fix a game when you go fix one thing and another breaks

[remote kestrel]

Not the fix of better FPS on quest and less game freezes

[gray kiln]

Well if you think about it fps compared to quest and pc, ofc pc is gonna be better cuz it’s pc quest shouldn’t have low low frames but yeah it’s annoying

[remote kestrel]

PC literally still has issues....

Memory is still one of em

[gray kiln]

Ik I have friends on pc that have issues

Wasn’t doubting that

[remote kestrel]

And your here saying its the headset that shit

[gray kiln]

Some issues

[remote kestrel]

Good on you

[gray kiln]

Are because of quest

One reason the game needs to be optimized is Becuase quest can’t handle it

[remote kestrel]

The quest can handle vrc....just very awfully due to the games many..many issues and its shit updates

[gray kiln]

And Because of that, quest needs to be optimized if you look at most games for quest it’s optimized compared to pc versions Because it can’t handle the pc versions

[gray kiln]

And yes Ik the updates and issues also don’t help

[remote kestrel]

Breh

PC games still need to be optimized for weaker (and sometimes stronger) hardware so more people can play if they have a shit computer

[mighty nest]

Hey I’m getting frozen and stuck in vrc and am forced to close game to end it. My headset claims it’s because of low memory but after checking it says I have a ton of em memory left. Why is my VRC saying this?!

[gray kiln]

Because of the new update

They’ll most likely fix it later this week. devs don’t work weekends that’s why nothings been fixed this weekend

[gray kiln]

^^

[mighty nest]

Understood

[floral lagoon]

How can be a part of the VRchat team ?

[mighty nest]

I crash frequently but even I knew something was suspicious with what was going on

[gray kiln]

Yeah x3

[gray kiln]

Submitting and application on the website

[floral lagoon]

Okay thanks

[mighty mica]

anyone wanna cuddle and watch YouTube? I'm lonely

[haughty coyote]

😬

[surreal seal]

On God bru

"Quest" isn't just bad just because it's "Quest" it has reasoning behind it but alot of ppl see it as just bad just because it's "Quest"! Lol

If you use the quest 1 and play vrc tho....

[glacial dune]

Quest sucks because of the constant crashes and lag spikes.

[surreal seal]

After many hard times, through thick and thin... 64GBs and years of use.. My Quest is still running strong and I love it to this day

[glacial dune]

Im surprised my headset has lasted over a year tbh. Both controllers has drift even with max deadzone, I’ve hit the controllers on things pretty hard and the little plastic clip holding the top strap in has snapped twice.

Quest 2 is so durable.

[surreal seal]

Only thing that happened to my quest is on the right controller half of the tracking points are broken but it's fine for me

[mighty mica]

how do you make it do that?

[surreal seal]

Wdym

[odd wren]

Any questies having an issue where their headset keeps freezing only during vrc

[surreal seal]

?

[remote kestrel]

Yea
New update screwed up alot of things

Especially how the game handles memory

That got screwed over even more...

[remote kestrel]

Yikes

[remote kestrel]

What?

[odd wren]

Exactly as i said 😅

[remote kestrel]

Ohhh wait

@odd wren
Do you mean when your just trying to play and vrc just freezes then goes back to normal? (Or just stay frozen lul)

[odd wren]

Stays frozen

[remote kestrel]

That is literally VRChat being shit

Unless the devs can be bothered to fix the game or anything on quest
That will happen alot cause they lazy

[odd wren]

They better fix it or their gonna loose alot of quest users

My pc friends who also use quest get it

[tribal snow]

That also has a tendency to kill all my audio for me and I'm forced to relaunch or else be stuck being deaf

I haven't checked in a while but I assume they still haven't fixed the deaf bug

[frosty siren]

Okay so its not just me

Man that sucks i stay on the blue losing screen or just a void ruined my plans of playing:/

Hopefully that helps resetting wifi helped me

[forest bone]

how u make it glow

[frosty siren]

Are they gonna change the max download size again

Why tf would they make it 10mb thats shitty

[haughty coyote]

So ppl don't disconnect in worlds

[frosty siren]

Now all my quest avis dont work thats bs

[wide trout]

gonna disagree there, the PC version of my avatar is just barely above 10mb, and quest has significantly better texture compression & shaders can't utilize nearly as many textures, also afaik you could never upload files above 10mb without a modded SDK anyways so all they did was start enforcing it clientside (which they should since quest has memory issues anyways)

[frosty siren]

I feel like that should be a choice

[surreal seal]

IR is something only a camera can see and the human eye can't so all u need to do is look at it through a camera

[frosty siren]

I cant see my friends avatars now.

[wide trout]

I'd love to know how they even managed to get an avatar built for android above 10mb when ASTC is as ridiculously powerful as it is

[frosty siren]

Couldnt tell u they make em not me

Like i said imo its shitty i prefer where u could choose ur download size

[wide trout]

not to mention the SDK never allowed you to upload >10mb avatars, so they're probably using a modded SDK which is against TOS anyways

[frosty siren]

Nah

This had to be the worst update so far

[wide trout]

oh you're gonna love this then

[frosty siren]

Bruh

[wide trout]

I think the only reason they haven't yet is because they haven't finished impostors

[frosty siren]

?

[gray kiln]

Was never supposed@to be able to change it. UI mistake

[frosty siren]

It was better that way tho but its fine i should be switching to pc soon

[broken copper]

Anyone been getting this error and causing you to crash out your game?

[gray kiln]

New update kinda broke quest version, should be a patch update soon

[glacial dune]

Feels like the updates keep making the game laggier and crash more

[solemn prism]

The game on Quest doesn't look the same since the UIMenu change

[agile harness]

they fully removed the one-handed movement for the use of one controller. so its two or nothing now. im stuck on pc now.

[glacial dune]

Well you could always use hand tracking.

[remote kestrel]

Cause each update they keep screwing up the game entirely

Literally the game handles memory like ass

And uses alot of it for no reason

Its awful

The game is almost getting unplayable xwx

For quest

[glacial dune]

Yep especially on games like Murder 4 where it’s a constant 15 or under fps at all times with constant lag spikes and it crashes every few minutes.

[compact parcel]

True words

[mild mountain]

I'm using Meta Quest 2 and I'm trying to play games but I've got floating joysticks like the ones you hold IRL in the way of stuff, how do I disable them ? would be a great hand

[swift glacier]

The most people the quest 2 can handle before issues arise is 20 people with no poor avatars

[slim glade]

ok, i sort of hate this update a little bit

i cant go over 10MB download size which i want to atleast go to 50MB

[primal jay]

You couldn't go over it before on Quest.

If you did then you were breaking ToS by using a modded SDK.

[slim glade]

i didnt before

i didnt mod my quest

if you ask other people you could go over 10MB

most of my friends have their download size at like 50MB -100MB

without mods

[primal jay]

Never did anything though.

And I am doubtful it was even working before, unless someone could prove it showed avatars uploaded with a modded SDK.

[primal jay]

Vrchat was lazy and were just reusing the UI.

[slim glade]

maybe it was a glitch

i had to reinstall vrchat bc of " short memory "

and now it works good just the download thing is annoying

just wondering why they changed it-

had my oculus for over a year and have been playing vrchat for over a year

[slim glade]

lol no-one answering me

[haughty coyote]

You didnt ask a question?

Anywho I dont if this is the right channel to ask this but I need the best help for this. So I am a quest user and I am looking to move onto pcvr, now I dont know what specs I need or what is the best pc to get. Since I am in the UK people are very broke right now so it cant be expensive yet they most likely will be. But I need this pc to not only run vrchat but other pcvr games and also basic pc games like G-Mod, Rust etc. Is there any good recommendations for what I should get?

[haughty coyote]

@slim glade is right i was able to set the avatar downlosd to over 10mb i had it on 50

[slim glade]

yea

thank you for taking my back

btw if it says " memory not enough to run vrchat " dont uninstall it

just deal with it

[slim glade]

thank you

[gray kiln]

It was a UI mistake you were never supposed to be able to go over 10mb

[gray kiln]

New update caused that hopefully fix soon

[slim glade]

yea i hope tbh

and i wish i had my 100MB download -<-

still

[remote kestrel]

Literally google it

[haughty coyote]

Yeah tried that, didnt get an exact result. So I came here hoping for reviews from experience.

Sorry if thats wrong i guess?

[remote kestrel]

Well
Im not sure you why ask in the quest general and not like in the PC area of things xd

[remote kestrel]

I mean....wrong place to ask??

[haughty coyote]

I see the odd pcvr users type in here, so why not give it a go?

[remote kestrel]

Oh lmao

[remote kestrel]

Huh?

[remote kestrel]

ong

[haughty coyote]

Clear cache it helps out alot

[slim glade]

i tried that but after downloading some stuff it did the same thing

[karmic ember]

I keep getting put in empty lobbies, is there something about quest standalone right now that is keeping me from joining people

Oh nevermind, probably just needed to update

[glacial dune]

Oh yeah and this low fps is with cpu/gpu power and foveated rendering set to max in SideQuest.

[gray kiln]

It’s because of the new update as I said

[slim glade]

damn-

[haughty coyote]

New updates succs

[gray kiln]

Hopefully they can fix it soon!

[glacial dune]

Fr it’s just getting laggier and crashing way more. These updates are making playing on Quest way worse.

[haughty coyote]

They should fix the memory problem and actually listen to theyre players

[lilac flicker]

is one handed fixed

[odd swan]

i wanna know too hand trackings becoming glitching and annoying to manage

[lilac flicker]

i been using a ps4 controller

[odd swan]

i dont have that or a xbox controller and my pcs to laggy to use my vive without non-stop crashing so im stuck with hand tracking since vrc is tracking my broken controller

[lilac flicker]

do u have a nintendo pro controller

[odd swan]

nah nothing console related

[lilac flicker]

oh dang

[odd swan]

only a pc and 2 vrs

[lilac flicker]

is ur keyboard bluetooth

[odd swan]

wired

sadly

[lilac flicker]

dang

[odd swan]

yep

ive been running around with hand tracking cant even play games right either so if i ever wanna play a normal game im stuck getting on my vive just cause i dont have 1 handed movement and my HTC Vive controllers dont work with quest

[lilac flicker]

is your controller broken?

[odd swan]

yep im stuck with my left one til i can buy a new right one

funny tho i can play gorilla tag i was playing last night they put your broken had next to your body so it doesnt mess with one handed game play either that or i was lucky with my hand position

[glacial dune]

Yeah it moves locks your hand to your body when the other controller is disconnected.

[solemn prism]

I think they should make a refresh button so we can know how many people are in the world

[odd swan]

welp in my current situation and my inablitiy to play vrc without struggle i can sharpen up on my dodging and one handed climbing

[glacial dune]

Yeah and also maybe a join last instance button or a thing where you can type in an instances id to join it incase you crash.

[gray kiln]

The only reason they didn’t do something when the update was out was because they don’t work weekends will most likely do something this week

[haughty coyote]

Even then they should hear out the community every now and then

[haughty coyote]

Anyone wanna hangout dm me

[haughty coyote]

Anyone getting a freezing issue when loading peoples Avis

[gray kiln]

If ur on quest that’s normal

[haughty coyote]

Hm figured

Its just kinda annoying that vrchat crashes so much on quest

[gray kiln]

New update broke stuff, should hopefully be a patch sometime this week

[haughty coyote]

Hopefully

[pure pawn]

Hey, general question. Buds and I are recording in VR for our podcast, but noticed the desync of audio to avatar in post edit when we pull in our audio recording and try to match up to the video's audio. Anyone know how to resolve the latency issue aside from the old fashioned way of snipping and manually syncing by hand?

[tepid mortar]

question on quest 2 after updating. so i use safety settings and manually turn avatars on, but for some reason i don’t see the gray robots as default anymore, instead it’s these shard figures in the air. any way to fix that?

^ didn’t happen on pc so i figured it was a quest 2 question

[haughty coyote]

Hey so theres an avatar issue ive been having and for certain avatars ive been wearing they come out all weird. Like they are a huge but crouched down entirely and its not a gogoloco thing and the avatars regular height for example would be 2.34m but like i said is huge and crouched. Any way to fix this?

[haughty coyote]

Did u try your guardian

What do you mean by that?

Reset your guardian cause it might be too high

Wasnt my guardian

Check your height in game settings

I have my height how it should be

Do they have goloco?

Yeah but some dont have the size changer

They still weird even with gogoloco?

yeah

It might be cause of the update the avatr might be over 10mb

So the game just makes it bad

Nope 4.44mb on one of em

Vrc in a nutshell

Did u alr reset your vrc

Yeah a few times

Clear avatar cache

It should reset every single avatar u have saved back to original

U have to close app tho

[tepid mortar]

figured it out. was a performance setting that unloads avatars a certain distance away

[haughty coyote]

Oh is it new setting?

[naive lantern]

It keeps logging me out my account saying my season has ran out why? And how do I stop it please dm me or replay if you can

[haughty coyote]

Season?

[haughty coyote]

Nah its still broken

As in memory? Then ut might just be the avatars cuz vrc

Do other avis work?

Cuz if ita only specific ones is just the game being broken

Yeah tons of others work but its even previously existing avatars that were normal beforehand

Just update bug

It might fix them after the new update

I hope so

[haughty coyote]

Also as in memory?

[naive lantern]

How do I get it to stop is it my wifi?

[haughty coyote]

Is it memory??

Saying u dont have enough memory and stuff?

@naive lantern

[naive lantern]

No

[haughty coyote]

It just randomly logs u out?

[naive lantern]

It just saids you season has ran out

Sign back into vrchat

Its crazy

[haughty coyote]

Ok so is either someone is getting into your account and logging u out or it might be vrc being vrc

[naive lantern]

How do I know if someone in my stuff

This happens everytime im on

[sand dawn]

So are we gonna have to worry about Vrchat just dropping questies? Cause like it seems like they wanna go solely pc at this point and it’s pretty infuriating. It feels like they don’t care as long as they can make money

[granite cove]

Jesus Christ

I noticed performance got worse after recent update in my homeworld bio's ultimate theatre went from 30-35fps to 25-30fps

[solemn prism]

If they just optimize the UIMenu and give us an option to reduce the textures of the UIMenu it will help a lot, I mean I think they don't even follow the video they've made about the textures showing on the screen

[granite cove]

I don't understand the neglect of quest alot of people play the game through quest

[solemn prism]

And there is the mobile version that will come in a few months

[granite cove]

Yeah if they want mobile version to work they should atleast make the quest version work correctly before focus on another platform

And they are also apparently going to be making a version to work on ps5

Not sure tho that's just what I heard

Pc and quest are both having issues they should fix those before working on mobile as making a version for mobile is gonna be tricky due to the amount of different phones with different chipsets

And screen resolutions

[solemn prism]

Yeah
I remember the old days in 2021 when it was rare to crash and you always could know what avatar could crash you just by looking

[granite cove]

The days before eac

[solemn prism]

and now even a random player can crash you just because he is joining the world

[granite cove]

Yep😑

I can't have more then like 5 avatars active in public lobbies without crashing

I've crashed before from someone changing from a poor avatar into a fallback somehow!?

Just crashed because of them changing

[solemn prism]

I didn't experienced that

yet...

[granite cove]

They seriously need to fix these issues

They have a huge community of modders who could easily help them optimise the game

And talented people all over vrchat who could assist them people made optimization mods for vrchat on pc and I'm sure they could make them again and maybe help optimise quest

[gray kiln]

When the newest update came out yes it did cause more crashing I told lots of people this the reason they didn’t fix it this weekend was cuz devs don’t work weekends they will most likely release a patch update this week.

[granite cove]

I'm gonna check the vrchat beta later and see if that performs any better

[sand dawn]

Okay that makes sense. I really hope it does get fixed

[gray kiln]

Eh even then if you were on it everyone you play with would have to switch to it but I doubt it’ll do much maybe tho idk

[gray kiln]

Yes:3

[haughty coyote]

Rip vrchat for quest

[haughty coyote]

Bro I'm dumb

Just now realizing there's a quest chat

[haughty coyote]

XD dont be is hidden

[grave loom]

Nope beta has issues too

[granite cove]

Bruh

[haughty coyote]

Ha vrchat is slowly but surely abt to die for quest

[shy acorn]

Can anyone play vrchat on quest? Mine be uber broken

[gray kiln]

Cause of the new update

[gray kiln]

^^^

[shy acorn]

@gray kiln ah alright

[grave loom]

Mine was fine till yesterday did have the memory error tho

[gray kiln]

Yep the memory thing was cause of the update

[haughty coyote]

Doubtful. If they only wanted to develop for PC only, they wouldn't have announced mobile ports of the game for Android and IOS devices. Quest still and will remain a huge chunk of the VR ecosystem until something comparable releases in the near future in terms of portability and price. So to drop it entirely is completely counterintuitive.

[grave loom]

Yep yep

[gray kiln]

Yepp

[haughty coyote]

Mhmmmn

[haughty coyote]

Who knows just have to wait for the updates

[tepid mortar]

+1 i agree

[magic laurel]

will vive base station 2.0 and 1.0 work together at the same time?

are HTC SteamVR Base Station 2.0 and htc VIVE base station 2.0 the same thing?

[jagged trench]

vrchat is not coming to the PS5

[granite cove]

Ah ok

Kinda glad would of caused another surge of kids in the game

[jagged trench]

and there's not really much vrchat can do when Quest updates have the OS take up more of the ram leaving less room for vrchat

[jagged trench]

the mobile version is definitely going to cause that

[granite cove]

Yep😑

So much for android 12 improving performance

[jagged trench]

okay I don't know if the Android 12 update is particularly increasing the ram just I know that vrchat runs into RAM problems often?

[wide trout]

mobile version does have one benefit I think people are forgetting
people with PCVR headsets can test quest content now without having to own a quest

[jagged trench]

yeah that's definitely very cool

[night edge]

they didn't spend all this time adding Quest hand and eye tracking support to abandon Quest entirely. But when Quest 3 comes out, Quest 2 is going to become the new SDK2.

[jagged trench]

they're not likely to be in a big hurry to deprecate the quest 2 considering meta is going to be selling the quest 2 & 3 at the same time

[quaint cloud]

Anyone like juice wrld

[blissful pendant]

does it feel like the quest version of vrc is degrading to anyone else? every update it feels less and less responsive.

[mild dune]

is this true?

[sand dawn]

Someone said the devs don’t work weekends so they might not have had a chance to fix it. But I do hope they do

[mild dune]

yeah i hope they do as well

[sand dawn]

Vrchat just updated

[mild dune]

omg yeah it does have an update right now well that's perfect timing i guess lmao

[remote kestrel]

Rip my memory

[solemn prism]

It doesn't looks like its a fix for Quest

[grave loom]

it for sure doesnt fix it, uninstalled and reinstalled with new update. (still )

[gray kiln]

If you read the notes for this update it wasn’t for the problem that’s happening.

[grave loom]

I did read them, and already knew there wasnt a fix

just tried anyways lol

[odd swan]

😭 i got so excited too

i thought id finally be able to go back to my everyday 1 handed play for a sec and thought i could stop reliving my childhood and relive it on vrc- nevermind now 😭 dang

[cosmic root]

Right as I was talking to my friend about it, I proceeded to crash because of the issue

[haughty coyote]

Is it just my vrchat but when I try and play say connect problem then glitch out and give me a box and I already factory reset my headset so ik it's not that or my connection since every other game works correct and I've already deleted and reinstall the game

This new update sucks crashing a hole lot more lagging a lot more

So the update could be the reason on why I can't even access vrchat

[quaint cloud]

It's ridiculous

[grave loom]

the issue started yesterday for most people

#user-support-old has the whole convo about the connection issue

[cosmic root]

It's been like this for days for me, it's definitely lagging a whole lot more though...

[grave loom]

now there has been other issues since the update on the 14th

like not enough memory and more frequent crashing

[haughty coyote]

Thanks since I thought it was my headset messing up so some people can't even access vrchat either then

[cosmic root]

Yeah, that's the exact issues we've been having, my friend and I are also trying to talk to each other while on VRChat and we're both lagging and cutting out on each other's ends despite this never being an issue for us before

[grave loom]

yerp

this happened about 2 months ago also

[cosmic root]

The cutting out happens about every 10 seconds, pain

[earnest yarrow]

Im havinf trouble with vrchat on my headset again— it keeps saying that my connection to vrchat has timed out and I’ll either have the option to log out or retry the connection.
From what I understand it’s not my internet, it just randomly does that and I can’t find a solution to fix it, does anyone ahve any suggestions?

[woven shell]

My osc for standalone fbt isn't working

[daring agate]

How do I clear the cache thing now? They moved everything

[grave loom]

debug page

[daring agate]

This new update sucks

[daring agate]

Thank you

[surreal seal]

My brain literally hurts because of this update

[solar sail]

Kinda know the answer but is there any possible way to record in vr chat on quest which isn’t the oculus recording system?

[shy acorn]

@solar sail if you hook your oculus up to a pc u can stream but other then that I have no clue

[solar sail]

Ok

[shy acorn]

Is there any new info?

[haughty coyote]

I don't think vr chat likes questies anymore lmao

😭😭🤣were the last resort Hahdbbd

[shy acorn]

@haughty coyote sadly I agree

Hiii

@solemn bay was saying hi back

[solemn prism]

I just noticed and looks like the portals load before the avatar I'm using

[haughty coyote]

Anyone else being immediately kicked from vrc before even getting in the game or constantly being logged out?

[primal jay]

Avatar could be crashing you, or it is the world. https://help.vrchat.com/hc/en-us/articles/360060847634-Unable-to-switch-out-of-an-avatar
The world can be skipped by clicking the "go to default home" button.

[haughty coyote]

^when I was able to log in this happens

I doubt it's my avatar or world

[primal jay]

Not seen that reported by anyone else recently, so would guess it is internet issues on your end.

[haughty coyote]

Well I did the Avi thing and hopefully it doesn't happen again

But I don't know honestly

[remote kestrel]

Lul

Literally me everytime trying to play

I just keep opening till i get in

[fringe vault]

I got a question about the quest so when I play on my quest my headset dies quickly and it's annoying me that it's not charging while I play and I was wondering if there was a fix for that?

[primal jay]

Faster charger (in a certain way) using the correct standard and a cable capable of delivering that power.
Can't tell you which standard because it confuses me.

[fringe vault]

Well rn I have a type c to type c should I get a type c to USB?

Will that help?

[primal jay]

USB-C to USB-C usually provides more power.

Usually

[fringe vault]

Okay I'll give it a try

[floral lagoon]

What is the bot for update for discord servers ?

[frosty vapor]

need someone to play a horror game on vr chat with me for youtube

[neat cloud]

is quest a good option for vrchat? ive heard that its not so great, but also that its a good option? trying to find a decent headset that i wont regret buying and is nice in the long term.

[jagged trench]

The quest 2 makes a pretty decent PC VR headset so yeah it's definitely a decent long-term pickup

[heavy minnow]

Literally just happened to me twice and I was only at the login screen

[meager slate]

Just found a proper proof of various radial menus on pc affecting quest performance even when the avatar in question is a pc only avatar.

For those crashing/etc randomly this may be your culprit at times, not necessarily every time. It almost drove the quest user we had with us to a crash, it got so intense.

https://feedback.vrchat.com/bug-reports/p/opening-a-two-axis-four-axis-or-radial-puppet-on-pc-causes-significant-frame-dro

Wild that it slipped the net, but hey.

Kinda wanna fiddle with it myself on stand alone, if I find the time.

[glass gust]

Hello anyone here need help

[haughty coyote]

So still no word on fixing the controller issues?

[floral lagoon]

Can you please fixed the movie and chill movie it keeps on crashing so many times that I can’t join it takes me back home

[timber flint]

Before the newest update I was able to edit my mb cap it was at 41 then when my friend told me it got removed I was confused I am at this moment I'm wearing a 29.23 mb avi (I'm on quest)

breaths deeply WHY are these update so pointless

[primal jay]

29.23 MB VRAM or actual download size?

[sweet girder]

I have a question for the mods/Hr

[timber flint]

Well the avatar is 29.23mb and in my setting it says 10 I had the setting before the update set to 41 mb so yeah

[timber flint]

It's messed up

I have MULTIPLE 10+mb avis

And I'm on base quest not pc vr

[primal jay]

That setting shouldn't have done anything. Assuming it was even hooked up, any avatar above 10MB is breaking the ToS.

And that isn't going to change anytime soon since the Quest barely handles 10MB avatars.

[timber flint]

XD Well mine handles it perfectly fine

[meager slate]

It did break for a sec and was fixed.

[primal jay]

You are clearly not reading this chat often.

[timber flint]

Not really no

[primal jay]

Too much RAM usage is what causes the Quest to crash more often than not.
Lots of people being annoyed by that in this chat.

[timber flint]

What a shame

[gray kiln]

It’s jsut the new update even then vrc can’t fix it they didn’t make a he world 😂.

[solemn prism]

I tried to play on Quest and it took around 5 minutes to get in a world to play with other peoples and yet I could hear the background music of the world but everything was a black screen

[primal raptor]

i got a question, if i buy a Powerbank/ Extra battery for my quest 2, and it has 2 or more USBs, will i be able to play oculus/ put the link cable and play normally or is it a no go ?

[craggy drum]

Im getting so sick of these lag spikes and crashes....if anything is gonna make me quit its crashing constantly for no reason at all

[remote kestrel]

Ong

VRC uses wayy too much memory

[remote kestrel]

No it doesn't

Literally everyone even PC users suffer cause of memory/ram usages

VRC uses so much of it..for no reason

[craggy drum]

And its only gotten worse as time goes on vrc used to run at least half decent on quest at this point you crash after sitting alone in optimized worlds to long

[remote kestrel]

Yeah pretty much

Literally
You can be in a world solo and still crash lul

[wise root]

Its ridiculous

[remote kestrel]

Yeah

[wise root]

I don’t know why or how but it’s gotten worse

I wish that I wouldn’t crash anymore

It used to be fun but I hate crashing I did everything so I couldn’t crash but I still do

[remote kestrel]

I literally made my settings

So everyone are just gray robots

By default

By using custom settings and setting every rank to having avatars off

Expect frirends ofc

[urban pulsar]

bro someone just hacked into my friends acc and deleted it I'm so angry

[proud granite]

Anders Is Now In Production (2/15 Voice Actors Needed) (ONLY IN VRCHAT) (DM If Interested)

[haughty coyote]

This is the way.

[remote kestrel]

Breh

[remote kestrel]

ong

[solemn prism]

Today I tried to play around but I can't play more than 2 minutes bc the game just froze and my avatar doesn't even load

[true stump]

I still cant even open groups without crashing

The recent update helped a bit tho

Perfomance still ass

[remote kestrel]

It will always be ass unless the Dev's decide to optimize vrc ewe

[true stump]

Rip

[glossy flower]

Can the Quest cache be increased from 4 GB to 8GB? I hate being sent home while on Quest because lack of memory. I only used 36GB out 64 GB from my headset so far

[floral lagoon]

Why pc world’s more beautiful world than quest worlds they I feel like pc world have more quest guys please make more quest worlds ?

[gray kiln]

Jsut cuz of new update will be fixed eventually

[gray kiln]

Because quest can’t look that good, it can’t handle all the shaders and particles would literally explode ur headset/j

[remote kestrel]

Uhm

Wat

That is not "memory"

Your cache is storage

Memory is like ram

VRChat is using a shit ton of it for no reason cause of how shit the game handles it

[floral lagoon]

Okay

[remote kestrel]

I mean...yes and no?
Game graphics can look good on games for quest (as I already said before to you)
But vrc doesnt have any of that support on their game tho to add post processing on worlds on quest (which is a good thing cause they suck at making vrc for quest)

[pastel apex]

quest is quite literally a phone

strapped to your head

not everyone also I imagine in the VRC community would want to develop for quest

since its a pain in the ass

[remote kestrel]

Yeah x3

[remote kestrel]

A really beefed up phone tho lul

[gray kiln]

Well yes but still PC vrc still will be better in that way

[pastel apex]

I suppose yeah but its still puny in terms of its computational power

shit cant even handle transparency well

[gray kiln]

Android on yo head 😂

[remote kestrel]

ong

[pastel apex]

tbh you can do alot without post processing on quest

you certainly have to be creative with your shaders though

[remote kestrel]

Yea

[pastel apex]

I've been able to get some crazy good looking stuff running on quest

[remote kestrel]

Hard tho

[pastel apex]

oh yeah

volumetric fog ftw

[remote kestrel]

Oh my

[pastel apex]

posted this here on this server before but htis was for a quest project as a test

so if you know what you are doing you can certainly get some striking fidelity on quest, but gotta do some funky things first

i.e. since I had a custom ubershader that I wrote and was using, I apply a tonemap to the scene on the shader level

instead of through post processing

yes bah humbug im flexing basically

your welcome

[remote kestrel]

xwx

[tiny elk]

Hey does anyone know how to fix the question one handed problem

[remote kestrel]

Huh?

[tiny elk]

I play one handed on vrc and in game it shows my right hand like below my neck when it isn't even on

[balmy coral]

Is everyone's download speed slow on quest

[remote kestrel]

Oh dear

My guess is enable hand tracking
Go in game with hand tracking
Then go back with controller

[balmy coral]

No it's gone I tryed

[remote kestrel]

Mines decently fast

[remote kestrel]

Huh

[remote kestrel]

This is for @tiny elk

[balmy coral]

Wth I'm trying to load into my home world but I'm still at 32.03

[remote kestrel]

Maybe its just your connection then?

[tiny elk]

This didn't work

[remote kestrel]

Welp

Rip

[craggy drum]

Anyone else getting cannot join instance errors for no reason

[remote kestrel]

What error?

[craggy drum]

Cannot join instance

I keep getting it when i get invited by my friends and we cant figure out why

[grave stream]

The few times I've seen this, one of two things were true.

1. friend you are trying to join (or yourself) is using the closed beta.

2. friend or yourself is not using the latest client. So make sure you completely quit vr chat and make sure it updates.

[remote kestrel]

Uhm....

The second one is super unlikely

[grave stream]

Not as much as you'd think. If you opt to skip the update, or cancel it, you can still start vrc.

[remote kestrel]

#announcements

Read what tupper says

The second latest message

[craggy drum]

Neither of these were the case at the time

It was also only AFTER the world loaded

[remote kestrel]

What i thought

[grave stream]

Then it's as Rawr pointed out in the announcement from the other day

[remote kestrel]

Uhm
What?

[craggy drum]

If that was the case it would of given error before loading

Not after

[remote kestrel]

Yeah

@w@

[grave stream]

Has the opposite been true? Can they join you and in private instances?

[craggy drum]

Error seems to be inconsistent has and im still unsure of how to replicate it though its been friends+ instances

Have later been able to join the same instance with nothing seeming to be changed

[grave stream]

Strange. Only thing I could suggest is clearing the cache, uninstall/reinstall, factory reset. Usually resolves my network issues and crashing problems.

[craggy drum]

Ok small update just had it happen to an instance i created dropped a portal went through loaded fully then once world started got the error

Sent back home

[vale swift]

How can you fix the Avatar download size I changed it now I can't get it up

[grave stream]

10mb is the max.

[dense finch]

Is anyone else having issues with the One controller movement

[remote kestrel]

Why factory reset xwx

[gray kiln]

Factory reset tends to help network problems that’s why

[remote kestrel]

No it doesnt

Literally just wipes everything

[gray kiln]

;-; I hope you know oculus suggestions even say it fixes network problems

I didn’t say it fixed vrc or anything it fixes problems like headset not staying connected, yes it wiped the headset but sometimes headsets get fucked so they need a factory reset 😂

[remote kestrel]

Never in my 2-3 years of playing on my quest have seen this before

[remote kestrel]

Lul

[gray kiln]

Don’t mind the random ad it has helped my friend when their wifi wouldn’t connect properly

So idk

[remote kestrel]

Im blaming bandwidth tbh

[gray kiln]

Even there is some bugs that oculus jsit tells you to factory reset which is annoying but most the games I play have accounts so all my progress saves

[remote kestrel]

me who only mainly plays singer player games

P a i n

[gray kiln]

Some games have progress but I usually just play back up to it

I play into the radius (so fun), blade and sorcery, help wanted, beatsaber, cards and tankards, and a few others

All fun though

[remote kestrel]

Radius makes me wanna die inside

[gray kiln]

So fun though

[grave stream]

Because everytime things start acting screwy, it's likely also because the headset is the problem itself. I haven't crashed a single time since I did so. So YMMV

[remote kestrel]

That sounds autistic

[gray kiln]

And that makes absolutely no sense

[sharp girder]

Hi

[grave stream]

[red fable]

Does anybody else have the problem? Where is the game? Will crash randomly on quest two

[floral lagoon]

Meta Quest Pro is worth get it ?

[willow crater]

Is there like a way to keep the quest charging whilst using with PC? Currently im using airlink with a power bank which lets me play for a longer period of time , id hope there is a way to do that as well while connecting with pc with a cable too

[midnight sorrel]

Nope only controllers are good

Yo the new update kinda broke the quest version of vr chat

[silent lion]

you can get a powered usb hub that has a fast charger, the hub basically just gets its power from the wall while still being able to send data to your pc

i used to do that for a while until i switched over to airlink and just got a cable for charging, since cables are unreliable

[willow crater]

Thanks ! Do you know any good powered usb hub?

I would use air link but i feel like the transmission speed of airlink isnt really as good as while using with a cable

Although i really like the portability

[silent lion]

yeah i can understand that

i use this one, bit more expensive compared to some others on amazon but its more reliable compared to the cheap ones

[primal jay]

Only if you are going to connect it to a PC.
At the moment it seems Meta, as usual, broke something essential, but other times it is a good headset (that some people can't wear without comfort issues) with eye and mouth tracking and of course really good displays and great controllers.

Before the price drop it was quite simply too expensive, now it makes some sense. Still it lies on you whether you value the features it brings or not.

[gray kiln]

It’s Becuase of the new update fix will happen eventually

[floral lagoon]

Okay thanks

[uneven harbor]

i cant join a world without it sending me home do u know what the problem is

[midnight sorrel]

A poopy update I guess
(I have the same problem)

[cunning dome]

I’ve been having the same issue I was able to play for a couple of days then on the third day it wouldn’t let me login

[midnight sorrel]

Sometimes I get lucky play for 15 minutes and then it just crashes for no reason

[uneven harbor]

Right!!!

Im always stuck in my home which is movie and chill and just watch movies

Thats all i can do

[midnight sorrel]

Dude it won't even let me go to movie and chill it just takes me back to home and says that "I don't have enough memory" even tho I still have 220 GB of memory left

[uneven harbor]

I made it my home so it doesn't happen

[midnight sorrel]

I think I should also do that

All we can do is just wait for the next update I guess

[cunning dome]

Here I got a clip of my loading in after I reset it

[latent fiber]

everytime i load into a new avatar or world my air link begins to lag uncontrollably and it almost crashed my headset. any possible fixes?

[wind mortar]

my game has been super laggy and no one’s avatar is showing unless I make it do so. Yes I fixed my safety and everything but it’s been kinda laggy and stuff, any help?

[rain pewter]

Fr this has been happening to me for like 5 months atp and no fix

[wise root]

It’s ridiculous

I wish that update didn’t make my headset die so fast and super laggy

[remote kestrel]

You logged in just fine
You just keep crashing xwx

[remote kestrel]

ong

I have to start VRChat 3-5 times just to open it without crashing when the logo appears

[cunning dome]

I’m just confused on why it’s doing that and like how to fix it

[remote kestrel]

No idea

[remote kestrel]

Literally its best to NOT show anyone's avatars except friends

[remote kestrel]

Uhm

False?

Quest has either 6 or 8 GB of memory

Your mostlikely talking about storage

Which is uh

Not memory xd

Memory is like RAM

Which VRChat handles it...awfully

Even on PC its bad

[jagged trench]

vrchat only has access to about 4 GB of the quest Ram

[gray kiln]

The dying so fast isn’t the update, the headset uses a lithium battery which wears down over time and the battery life shortens. has nothing to do with the game 😂

[wind mortar]

you’re so real

Idk I got off that game fast cause what the literal hell was wrong with it

I upgraded to a oculus 2 for that reason for it to be more shit then the first one? 😭

[novel elbow]

Anyone one else notice the recent frame drop after the new vrchat update last week?

[wind mortar]

yes

[novel elbow]

Along with the fact that most game worlds are unplayable

[wind mortar]

it’s been happening like I got on among us to mess with people and it was so damn laggy it was so bad

[novel elbow]

Rn jinteis racing worlds are unplayable on quest bc how bad the frames are

And murder 4 is also unplayable

[wind mortar]

Like the game was good before this update I guess

Like I can’t even see the robots people be if their avatar is blocked. They become this weird shape like the avatar is trying to load but it’s not even excusable

[novel elbow]

I don't have that problem

[remote kestrel]

The Dev's the work on vrc aren't the greatest nor can be bothered to optimize shit on quest

[novel elbow]

Go figure, I'm actually not surprised by this

[remote kestrel]

Everyone are gray robots for me lul

[wind mortar]

I can literally go back on there and show you

It’s like they have this grey circle on the bottom of them but they are like a triangle shape but it’s not a triangle

[novel elbow]

I also have to keep my shield at max if I want to keep a consistent 17+ fps

[wind mortar]

It’s something I forgot the shape

[remote kestrel]

Just use custom shield and set every rank on avatars off expect friends

[wind mortar]

But for me to see anyone’s avatar I have to enable it one by one

[jagged trench]

you're describing the Avatar distance hiding avatars

[wind mortar]

Oh?

[remote kestrel]

Lul

I forgor about that

xd

[wind mortar]

But it didn’t show if they were like right next to me, I even fixed my settings for the avatar viewing thing

if that makes sense idk, the safety I think

[wind mortar]

The only avatar that I was half way able to see was my friend, but it was a default avatar, the point is that I was able to only see that 😭

ok let me get back on and see if it works one second twin

[remote kestrel]

Honestly i dont see the point for this myself cause everyone is just a gray robot xd

And it that has transparency

So i stick with robots

[jagged trench]

the diamonds are not even rendering skeletons so they're cheaper and intended to be seen from far away

[wind mortar]

It’s on always show friends n others

And the distance is like

To zero

Am I able to try to show you my settings?

[strong violet]

Hola

[remote kestrel]

I still rather just not xwx

[wind mortar]

Ne mind someone helped me in the game

[terse coyote]

same here homie, thats the reason u aint seen me in a week, i literally cant play

[terse coyote]

doubt

[gray kiln]

It is

[terse coyote]

im saying i doubt it will ever be fixed

the game has only deteriorated since ui 2.0 in october

to the point now its unplayable

[gray kiln]

Well it’s not like they can magically fix it right away, they gotta figure out how to fix it and what’s going on

[terse coyote]

yes they can

revert the last shitty update

[gray kiln]

No they can’t 😂

[terse coyote]

i literally told u how

[gray kiln]

Even then the new update was for specific things yeah it broke stuff but that’s why patch updates are a thing

[terse coyote]

its been a week, if it broke the game to the point of unplayability, it should be reverted and delayed

until they figure it out in beta

[gray kiln]

I’m able to play…

[terse coyote]

patch shoulda been the very next update

not adding even more features

well im not and im on max safety and factory resetted

[gray kiln]

I’m on quest and the only time I’ve disconnected is my wifi, but that’s cuz I just move and I have really bad wifi rn, the router I have doesn’t reach far other then that I haven’t really crashed

But anywyas I think you’ll survive till a patch comes out

[terse coyote]

its not coming out

if they ever fixed the game then the stability would still be as good as it was back in october

[gray kiln]

Did they tell you that or?

Just give it more time you’ll live, just play something else

[terse coyote]

i have no response to my ticket from 6 days ago

[gray kiln]

Ok its not like ur the only person you puts in a ticket there’s many other people lol

[terse coyote]

u don’t understand pal, i make money off this game

[gray kiln]

Anyways just play something else till there’s a fix that’s what I usually do if a game doesn’t work

Then make money off something else

[terse coyote]

its barely even for me, its for the community members

[gray kiln]

Ok

I mean idk I’m on rn and my games fine

With some friends to no one’s crashed

[terse coyote]

might depend on location or sum shit

[gray kiln]

Possibly but even then my friends are from all over

I’m in Canada, 2 are in the US, 1 is in the UK, 1 is on Russia, and the other is in Australia 😂

[terse coyote]

dont rly mean anything, different parts of the US still get worse stability

[gray kiln]

Ik Ik

[terse coyote]

like last time it was texas and the time b4 that was US East

[gray kiln]

Yeah

[terse coyote]

if ur confident in a patch id like to find out what u know that i dont, cuz all i know is ive never seen a quest stability patch since that time they broke shaders and everyone was pink in like 2021

[gray kiln]

Yeah I remember that 😂

[terse coyote]

wow lol

[gray kiln]

But if you think about it, they would have to do something to fix it since they wouldn’t wanna lose like half that people that play, from the amount of people who complain about it on here they would know they need to fix it because it’s also not just on quest it’s somewhat happening in PC too

They just need to find a way to fix it without having to reverse anything since I doubt they wanna do that

[terse coyote]

it does feel better to know that a lot of others are getting the same issue rn

cuz hopefully they do enuf support tickets

so they know shit needs done

[gray kiln]

Yeah it’s good to know it’s not like one person having it but since lots of people quest and PC have had problems it’ll most likely be fixed

[terse coyote]

ill still always be in favor of scrapping everything after ui 2.0 cuz that was the biggest downgrade in stability prior

lag on lag on lag on lag with the stupid menu

AND id like to be able to turn off join notifs cuz they crash tf out u!

but apparently that simple switch is too complicated

[gray kiln]

That’s weird 😂

[terse coyote]

ye i have a lot of friends who also just crash when their friends join

even when, in my case, im hiding 100% of players avatars

[gray kiln]

Yeah I used to crash the most from just showing to many avatars but that’s like a typical thing if you have to many on 😂

But yeah crashing is very annoying

[floral lagoon]

Is anyone else having trouble with meta quests I can’t not download pics again ?

[deft geyser]

I need help

[dire musk]

Does the quest Pro also count?

[hybrid lantern]

VRChat is so buggy I keep crashing over the smallest change

[craggy drum]

They need to stop adding new shit and fix what they have already take a page of of the valhiem devs book

[terse coyote]

exacly wht i been saying

[primal jay]

In what context?

The Quest Pro does run the same version as the Quest 2, with the same limitations.
Main benefit it has is its double amount of RAM, its 12GB of RAM, that should help it against the most common Quest 2 crash, running out of RAM.

Only saying "should" because no one spending Quest Pro money is going to do much testing in standalone, so literally not heard about any more testing than, "it seems more stable".

[night edge]

unless they really need the hand tracking to work

I know that if you connect your Quest to PC with Virtual Desktop, it will use hand tracking to basically emulate Index controllers. which technically works in VRChat but doesn't work nearly as well. i find myself randomly doing gestures and grabbing objects and opening menus

[floral lagoon]

What is the best cable link oculus quest 2 to get ?

[dire musk]

I got this one, it's really good and long, it even has caps for the endings.
https://www.amazon.de/dp/B091KKGTY4?ref=ppx_pop_mob_ap_share

[remote kestrel]

VRChat moment

Literally cope with it
Theres nothing else we can really do about the crashes
Except for turning off everyones avatars

What i do anyways

[solemn prism]

Until the imposters feature comes out

[remote kestrel]

If they can be bothered to lul

[remote kestrel]

Idc about that
Everyone can stay as a gray robot

For me anyways lul

[solemn prism]

I hope this make the quest not crash anymore which in theory is not supposed to happen

[remote kestrel]

unless

[solemn prism]

In case they should do an intensive optimization and stop using quest pro to do their tests

[hybrid lantern]

Yeah

[remote kestrel]

Like that matters
Literally the game handles memory like ass for both PC & Quest

[haughty coyote]

Here loophole use a pc with a quest using a cable

[remote kestrel]

Game is awful on both platforms

[haughty coyote]

[remote kestrel]

[haughty coyote]

[wheat bloom]

is it possible to do transparent textures on quest avatars

[jagged trench]

no not really

[wheat bloom]

oof alr

[wheat bloom]

i found a way i dont think its most optimized but it works

its using a particle shader

[remote kestrel]

Ha no

[remote kestrel]

That just makes it fully invisible

Not transparent

[wheat bloom]

no it doesnt

[remote kestrel]

It does

[wheat bloom]

i can show u

[remote kestrel]

ewe

Sure ig

[wheat bloom]

alr give me like 5 mins

[remote kestrel]

breh

[wheat bloom]

nvm it shows in unity but not in vrchat

[remote kestrel]

I literally told you it makes it fully invisible lul

In unity no
In game yes

[tawdry igloo]

:p

Hewo

[grave stream]

[ashen latch]

im having a problem trying to make my avatar quest compatible. where should i post my issue?

[primal jay]

#quest-optimization or #avatar-optimization

[restive cairn]

Has there been official word that the VRChat developers are properly aware of the performance problems introduced in the last major update and are working to resolve them? The difference is dramatic enough that some experiences have gone from "decent" to "horrible" and we've been suffering through this for a while now.

[frosty atlas]

Anyone got a guy called JRM added?

[grave stream]

[crisp plank]

God i hope, this is effecting my bartending skills on MiV

[keen lily]

ME TOO. Everytime I want to join and do bartending, I freaking die

I tried joining 3 times and was either kicked from storage problems, which is a lie, or I crash hard af

Happens in every other world too. And I've never crashed that much

[chilly holly]

Is VRChat crashing for anybody else?

[gray kiln]

It’s because of new update

[chilly holly]

I got fully logged out

[gray kiln]

Oh weird

[chilly holly]

Yeah

I got fully logged out, crashed, and anytime I try rebooting the normal VRC, I crash before I'm able to log back in

I'm in Beta, it isn't live compatible though, right?

[gray kiln]

Nope

[chilly holly]

Beta now*

Greattt

It's okay now?

[dense linden]

Hey

[crisp plank]

I wish we could tell the devs because no one seems to be properly reporting this, its been like 2 weeks

[small flame]

i keep deleting stuff bc of it

[chilly holly]

I don't think they're focused on quest much atm ngl

it sucks how we're so restricted, especially in terms of audio, audiolink, better camera quality, etc

[small flame]

yeah it does suck

[chilly holly]

the quest can easily support it

[small flame]

yea

[chilly holly]

;_;

[jagged trench]

not really it's a mobile processor

[crisp plank]

it's more the software limiting itself, look at bonelab or rec room, i'd say it's more a problem with the app itself being poorly optimized for a mobile platform

not to mention the stellar framerates other applications can run

[jagged trench]

bone Labs is a single-player title and rec room has very simplistic avatars

[chilly holly]

ig?

[jagged trench]

like bone Labs would probably have a hard time if it had to render 20 of those full physics avatars all the time

[bronze zodiac]

So uh does anyone have any tips on making this game not crash cuz i been dying like 10 times every half an hour

[crisp plank]

you're not really making any stellar points here, bonelab uses more advanced graphics/models, with community modding prioritized and rec room is a general example

[crisp plank]

wait for the devs to fix it, everyone's suffering

[bronze zodiac]

Damn

[crisp plank]

yeah

not much we can do, unless someone reverts the code causing this

[jagged trench]

the bone Labs avatars I doubt are going to be using as many draw calls as your average very poor vrchat Avatar

[crisp plank]

but, such is the questie grind

[crisp plank]

the game shouldn't be downloading very poor avatars to my game if i have shield settings on.

yet i'm getting crashed in safety mode

i've had to clear my cache 3 times this week

just because that limit is so demanding now

we were fine before until this useless update, so there is zero point defending it

it's shocking when i can crash on my own worlds, despite building them to be optimized

anyway time to go back to suffering in vr, im out.

[remote kestrel]

Bonelab is at least optimzed
and the game is mostly physics based
VRC isnt, and its ass on quest still lul

[remote kestrel]

uhm..huh?
if it says like you running out of memory....thats not storage

memory is like ram

which vrc handles poorly

for both platforms

(i have said that many times now xwx)

[remote kestrel]

(also why are you typing bonelab like that xwx)

[pastel apex]

because bone lab

[remote kestrel]

xwx

[keen lily]

I didnt read up to that. I just replied to a person who's having similar stuff to me :"3

[earnest mauve]

Did the AFK pose get removed?

[haughty coyote]

Hey who cN do free avi uploads for me

[jagged trench]

having other people upload to your account is against terms of service

[restive cairn]

I can deal with the performance limitations. When you know what they are you can design within them. Dramatic performance regressions and no official acknowledgement that they even exist (that I can see) is another story entirely.

[remote kestrel]

Your fine x3

[remote kestrel]

I don't see why the would but that explains why i don't see my afk animation playing when i open my oculus menu

They either broke their shit or removed it lul

[timber grotto]

e

[chilly holly]

It's also possible that you disabled it

[restive cairn]

https://feedback.vrchat.com/bug-reports/p/performance-of-the-quest-version-of-vrchat-is-worse-than-before-questvrchat

[solemn prism]

For me it looks like the game freeze everytime I'm pressing too many toogles in front of the mirror and sometimes it looks the game just freeze for no reason every 2 minutes

[restive cairn]

There's some additional overhead that came out of nowhere. CPU, GPU and more RAM usage. The additional "phantom" CPU load in particular means that there is now just about zero headroom so if you're using a prefab for example that is in any way CPU heavy (like VRCBilliards for example) you'll end up chugging away at 5-10fps every time someone takes a shot. It wasn't remotely this bad before the last update.

[fresh ingot]

is it just me or is my vrchat on quest taking a shit long time to load worlds and avatars after the update

[remote kestrel]

I never do lul

I checked to make sure

AFK detection is on

Just not working

[chilly holly]

Turn it off and on,

?*

[remote kestrel]

Breh

On off
Restart game
Restart headset

Nothing

ewe

[restive cairn]

I posted that above (or at least a link to it) 😉

Thanks nonetheless 🙂

[remote kestrel]

VRChat takes so much more memory then i thought-
||[cause ik people gonna ask, the overlay is not againts VRChat ToS, its just an application that runs in the background, and appears when turning on my headset lul)||

[frosty atlas]

Everytime I join a public I usually crash with the error say there isn't enough memory for vr chat or I get kicked back to the vrc home if I join a public

I swear every update seems to completely fuck up vr chat on quest, who tf is working on this game? Yandere Dev?

[haughty coyote]

quest always gets the shit end of the stick fr

[remote kestrel]

Kekw

Pretty sure he's just slow

And not making shit play-able

[restive cairn]

Don't generalize that; it's worse right now than it should be.

Obviously profoundly world-dependent anyway.

With LS Media being a memory intensive example.

[remote kestrel]

Currently in a very optimized world

Still same shit memory

[solemn prism]

I hope they are not like "lets just make it playable bc the Quest 3 is about to get released soon"

[restive cairn]

it's worse right now than it should be.
😉

(https://feedback.vrchat.com/bug-reports/p/performance-of-the-quest-version-of-vrchat-is-worse-than-before-questvrchat)

[remote kestrel]

thats not a good thing if it says should lul

[restive cairn]

Also, memory usage doesn't flush properly when moving between worlds.

Memory usage will often be higher in world X after coming from world Y than it will be if you restart the client and load straight into world X.

This was a problem even before the last update which made everything worse.

Not sure if this is a VRChat problem, or a Unity problem, or a Meta runtime/OS problem.

[remote kestrel]

I blame vrc
Every other game is fine

Ig

[pastel apex]

VRChat having a base of user generated content doesnt exactly help honestly

[restive cairn]

AltspaceVR had exactly the same problem. Might be a coincidence, might be a common denominator.

[pastel apex]

in regards to getting good performance

[remote kestrel]

Fairs

[cobalt shore]

You want good looking quest avatars those are performance heavy 🤷‍♀️

[remote kestrel]

avatars and worlds

murder 4 isnt big yet laggy asf

im guessing its the shaders jar used? but idrk

also dont ask in every oculus quest channel and asking someone to make you an avatar smh

[uneven jolt]

No.

I just answered for every vrc creator

Also is anyone else not able to load into the game or just me? Annoying ahh xylophone music been playing for like 20 minutes

[solemn prism]

Actually for me after I join the vrchat home and after all the portals have loaded the game freezes and I have to hope that after about 30 seconds it goes back to normal

[tame wyvern]

We are all screwed

[gray kiln]

Nope we aren’t

[gray kiln]

How, because the games not working oh no we are all gonna die

[remote kestrel]

Game*

Not Games

x3

[gray kiln]

Read that out loud it doesn’t sound right

[remote kestrel]

Cause wrong grammar

[gray kiln]

Ik that’s what it is but it just doesn’t sound right compared to games 😭

[remote kestrel]

"How? Because the game isn't working? "Oh no, we are all gonna die""

[remote kestrel]

pat

[gray kiln]

Anyways tho @tame wyvern how are we “screwed”

[remote kestrel]

Loaded into my world and insta said i ran out of momory kekw

[craggy drum]

This cannot join instance error is happening more ajd more pretty much every time i make a jew instance i have to try multiple times to join anything

[tame wyvern]

We’re screwed because they don’t fix any of the issues