you scaled/moved/rotated the bone in unity and it didnt like that
#avatar-quest
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flat frigate
this might be a problem with the armature. For example, if you generate a rig in Blender and the use it in unity this will happen
tardy sundial
@frail field Import the fbx back into blender, fix it with CATS, export that back into Unity, and redo the Humanoid setup. This should fix the nonsensical 'bendy arms'
waxen torrent
https://twitter.com/cross_market_?s=20 Quest compatible avatar market open now until June 3
Twitter
Search for xket
pastel storm
Does anyone have a cross compatible Morty avatar?
pastel storm
Hello?
pastel storm
is there anyway to get quest haptic avatars?
pale torrent
Pretty sure the haptic avatars work with a camera trick and cameras on quest avatars aren’t supported
If you were to change into an avatar with haptic support, even though you won’t be able to see it on the quest it might still be able to trigger the haptics
shadow olive
considering you guys do a lot of merging meshes
has anybody run into the bug where combining 2 meshes just deletes one of their UV maps?
idk why this happens
spice schooner
Do the uvmaps have the same name before being merged?
shadow olive
we all read it, if we dont respond, it means we dont have the model
@spice schooner, im not sure
they're both using the same atlas though
ill be honest, i didnt know UVmaps had names
it looks like they're different
spice schooner
Name them the same thing then merge @shadow olive
shadow olive
Stupid question, where do I rename them?
spice schooner
I hope that helps, located on the bottom right of Blender by default. You may have to hit the expand arrow* on the UV Maps option
Just double click the name and name it
spice schooner
Awesome! Glad I could help. 
lapis mist
Does anyone have any trevor Henderson avatars but not siren head like cartoon cat or long horse for example
jaunty sparrow
I'm being dumb, what have I yet to change to fix this issue?
lapis mist
I hope i can get a trevor henderson avatar/avatars
compact lily
anything under "vrchat > mobile" @jaunty sparrow
jaunty sparrow
ok, ty
pastel storm
does anybody have a left 4 dead 2 avatar?
velvet hawk
Been at this for some days now, i get everything perfect up until i actually load into my avatar. The hands / arms stay stuck up inside the head and you can't really move your hands fix it. If i lose hand tracking though, the arms will sometimes go down to it's normal positioning.
merry arch
I guess you put your viewport where the eyes would normally be but that's just way too high for humanoid skeleton
Lower your viewport to around the neck area
Common problem with avatars that have big heads
slender oasis
I havent found very many worlds that have properly optimized avatars for quest that I can use publicly...I would love some suggestions please!
dapper ore
Does anyone know a video or a tutorial of some sort about making your avatar completely invisible? Like if you hold grip or maybe a emoji .makes you invisible.
pastel storm
Just disable the Body mesh in an animation and it'll accomplish that effect
dapper ore
ok thanks
glass coyote
How do I make an avatar quest compatible
dapper ore
You have to change the build platform to android
There are many videos showing you how to
pine stag
Hey all! I was wondering if anyone knows where I’d be able to find more avatars that look like this?
I’ve seen a few of them but they traditionally don’t have actual hands, and Id prefer actually having hands than them being hidden in sleeves
blazing meteor
I find it’s more important to set the view position as where your real human eyes would be given the location of the avatar’s shoulders are your actual shoulders
Shoulders being in the same place,
Virtual and real, is most important, for having the arms feel correct
true pendant
I've been seeing people run around with avatars such as the following I was just wondering where I could get one if you could dm me.
blazing meteor
Harpy. The word to look for is harpy. Anime girl harpy.
grand oar
Pls vr chat fix the particles for quest first no sound anymore now the particles pls fix it
pastel storm
I'm pretty sure sounds were supposed to have been always disabled for quest
grand oar
Damit
But I dont care about the sound I want my particles back my avatars are trash now
true pendant
Does anyone have a harpy avatar? I've been looking for 1-2 hours and still can't find one if you could let me clone it ty.
grand oar
I know a world for it but idk the name right now
Add me on vrc and I can help you tomorrow
finite crest
And by audio sources restricted, they mean if it exceeds the worlds limit, cant work........ my audio is like 40mb lol
finite crest
Idk about avatars, but world particles seems to work fine
Worlds are a bit more leaneant about quest stuff
blazing meteor
Particles on avatars work fine for me, just you can’t use cutout shaders so you are limited to squares
Unless something changed? Were particles removed?
dapper ore
How come when I tried to upload a avatar it loads saying future proofing your content then it stops loading and then I try to hit build again and it keeps doing the same thing. It did this in 3 diffrent avatars
compact lily
@dapper ore disable future proofing in the sdk settings tab and check the console for errors
dapper ore
Alright thanks
dapper ore
Well I disabled it but now it just doesnt build at all
clever berry
does anyone have a rem avatar from re zero for the quest
blazing meteor
If you have a pc version on hard drive I can make a quest version.
pastel storm
@blazing meteor hey is there any chance to make a Doom Slayer avatar for quest like not like high quality like the PC ones
blazing meteor
I don’t make from scratch models. If you have model I can optimize it down to quest standards.
pastel storm
Like one that I'm using in VRChat?
I do have a Doom Eternal one but sadly it's PC Only
dapper ore
Can someone link the current unity version I think mine might be outdated
dapper ore
@pastel storm did you make a doom avatar?
pastel storm
@dapper ore no I don't know how to make Avatars wait do you have quest?
dapper ore
I do
pastel storm
Nice!
dapper ore
All you do is follow the steps to make a avatar on pc. But in unity change your build platform the android fix some shaders and other stuff the SDK wants you to fix then boom
pastel storm
Does it have to be a windows 10 computer
dapper ore
It can be any computer that can run unity and blender and all the plugins
pastel storm
I don't think a Chromebook would be good
pastel storm
Let me check
dapper ore
Go to a toturial and download what they say to download.
pastel storm
What's the website? Or link
dapper ore
For what?
pastel storm
Nevermind it won't let me
true pendant
anyone have a harpy avatar I can clone or a world with harpy's
stone night
Does anyone have a watch dogs 2 wrench skin
random smelt
Does anyone have/ know of a Niko from the game OneShot?
merry arch
Unity supports Linux just fine so it should run on Chromebook, you have to get the installer from their FTP or use Unity Hub to get android SDK installer
blazing meteor
Unity runs pretty terrible and slowly on a chromebook. But it does run.
You’ll need patience though
merry arch
Unity runs terribly on anything that isn't wintel really but for uploading avatar it's irrelevant, toaster will do the job
pastel storm
How can I fix my avatar to be under the 10mb limit if it already has less than quest avatars I've uploaded before?
blazing meteor
make sure you have legacy blend shapes checked, it will bloat the file size otherwise
otherwise your texture size is too big
dapper ore
How come most avatars have a thing called future proofing that doesnt upload tha avatar and when I turn it off it doesnt load at all like wtf
dry zealot
turn off that
pastel storm
Thank you @blazing meteor for the help!
Worked like a charm!
velvet hawk
To achieve the proper texturing for this avatar, you have to set the texture's interpolation from Linear to Closest . Question is , how do you do this for Unity when importing?
velvet hawk
I have it set to Bilinear. It seems to be more accurate when setting to Point (no filter) but not entirely accurate
blazing meteor
That's point filtering for sure
Any color inaccuracies are probably due to your compression of "Normal Quality" set it to none
Compression is not needed for such a tiny texture
I'd also set the wrap mode to no repeats
proper vortex
What do you need to do to optimise a model for quest?
compact lily
Yes
proper vortex
I'm new to making quest models
blazing meteor
7500 tris or under (preferably 5000 or under), 1 material, total texture size no bigger than 10mb @proper vortex
velvet hawk
Ahh i got it, it seems that setting it to Bilinear and applying settings at the very bottom seemed to have fixed it.
proper vortex
Oh wow
That's a generous limit
I thought I was gonna have to spend hundreds of hours
compact lily
Very poor is 10k. But 20k is when people start to hate you.
blazing meteor
If it’s a cross play avatar, meaning you have separate models for PC and quest, they also need to have identical armatures
proper vortex
Nah I hardly ever do over 10k even on pc so people can have a lag less experience
Except for special requests
blazing meteor
Oh I did forget that you need to only use the quest approved shaders in the vrchat/mobile directory. The most complicated one has diffuse, normal, metallic, emissive, and smoothness, there are no cutout shaders
blazing meteor
Also make sure the vertex color on the whole model is white because those shaders multiply the vertex color with diffuse
Bashed my head on that one for a while
blazing meteor
7500 tris and below are visible to all quest users. 10K and below require they enable “poor” avatars in their settings. above 10K will be hidden unless they manually unhide you specifically. No actual hard cap, but going much higher will lag or crash anyone who unhides you
5000 and below is considered excellent
proper vortex
Rip people who make custom anime avatars for quest users
blazing meteor
As long as you don’t unhide people you’re fine you just don’t see a lot of people. There’s a lot of people that just have absolute crash avatars on the quests slot because they’ve never used the quest and have no idea
But I absolutely love that there are people making stuff available for quest users. Just pls don’t make me need to unhide people, who knows what they’ll change into later
proper vortex
Dude I don't want people crashing their quests
Also it's not that hard to optimize if you're experienced
blazing meteor
So yeah as long as you change the platform to android it will be considered the quest version, PC version can still have whatever higher tris
It’s a good system
stone night
Anyone have a wrench avatar
dapper ore
Does anyone know how to make a avatar invisible then visible again?
pale torrent
Make it so you turn off the renderer on a gesture or animation or whatever u want it on
summer trench
I actually have a question to piggy back off of Nicota and Adeons exchange. I am creating an avatar aiming at medium quality. first question... is it more effective to have two smaller textures/materials or a single larger texture/material... and if the second option... I read that 1k is ideal for texture size, but is there a hard cap on texture size beyond keeping everything below that 10mb limit? can you get away with large texture size as long they are within limit?
worthy sage
Ideally you should use as few materials as possible for quest, so the second option.
You should aim for a low texture resolution to reduce the size as much as possible but if 2k doesn't put you above 10 mb it should be fine but should try using 1k if possible and check your model to see if it's fairly blurry or not.
merry arch
Hard cap for Android texture is 8k but obviously you really, really don't want to use that for avatar, 2k and below is what you should be aiming for, single material is generally better but you have to take in account what exactly those materials are, if you need two different shaders for, say, eye emissions then two materials with emission material using lower res texture is obviously what you have to do
leaden elbow
Hi how can i Have some Giants skins on quest ?
blazing meteor
Quest you want one material. Amount of textures doesn’t matter. only the overall file size of all textures combined, which is fine just grazing under the 10mb limit
I usually have one material, with four 1024x1024 textures, one for diffuse, one for normal, one for metallic (R) and smoothness (A), and one for emission.
proper vortex
I am pretty good at squeezing every last frame on quest
blazing meteor
Avoid adding a second material it’s not technically needed for anything, Arguably the only reason you would need a second material is if you want to use two different shaders on two different parts of the avatar, which for quest, lacking cutout, is probably never
Like if you want part of it to be unlit just use the emissive map
For medium your limit is 7500 tri
That’s what most of mine target
A 1024 texture can be tight if you want good detail, I recommend a good UV packer like shotpacker to squeeze as much area as you can so the low res doesn’t hurt you
proper vortex
What kind of model is he making?
blazing meteor
If you are going for diffuse only you can get a 2048x2048 in if you compress it a little but I think the standard lite shader with all maps looks better than high resolution diffuse
proper vortex
If it's a human I can't understand how you need more space for textures
If you don't need to see every single string of cloth
blazing meteor
Yeah for uv optimization you can collapse any UV tris that are solid colors
proper vortex
If you need textures for stuff like jeans those are pretty simple to compress
tired shell
Free low poly character i made and rigged for learning - you can do what you want with it - Ready for export from Blender 2.82
tired shell
about 20 minutes
proper vortex
Oh yea you used the built in shapes from blender, right?
tired shell
i modelled it from the default cube - i added no other shapes
proper vortex
Yea
That seems like a pretty usual strategy
You could've made it without modeling by hand
tired shell
all quads
tired shell
3 shapekeys for wink / r & l + blink
proper vortex
Nice
tired shell
i wanted to see if i can do it under 1k
proper vortex
Looks like it's under 1k quads
blazing meteor
I don’t think anyone sanely models with tris. That’s just people who modify finished models that were already triangulated at the end
proper vortex
Modeling with tris is normal
blazing meteor
It’s always quads that I see
proper vortex
I prefer to model with tris because I'm probably used to it
tired shell
366 faces - / converted to tris it's 740 total
blazing meteor
Can’t use loop select or loop cuts with tris
Actually a lot of basic blender tools just don’t work with tris
proper vortex
I'm just used to it
blazing meteor
I would recommend start modeling with quads I don’t think you’re gonna get very far otherwise, at least not with scratch models
proper vortex
Tris were better back in the early 3d days
merry arch
That depends on modeling software, if you do everything in Blender then yes but if you're used to your own 3D software or use navmouse your workflow will be different
blazing meteor
I use a spacenav 3D mouse.. I don’t see how that corollaries to tri modeling though
In my experience they just make topology a nightmare
dapper ore
Does anyone know how to trun off the avatar mesh or rendering with a guestre?
blazing meteor
Hit record, disable the mesh, then stop recording
dapper ore
Umm where do I disable it xD
blazing meteor
Checkbox at very top of inspector
dapper ore
Ok and when I click record do I hit the play animation clip to record it?
merry arch
Remember to double the keyframe otherwise it will flicker
dapper ore
What's that?
blazing meteor
When you hit record anything you do in unity will be added to the selected time stamp
blazing meteor
And Juzuv says to make two frames because gestures loop, and must be at least 2 frames long
If the two frames aren’t the same, your changes will flicker
Very rapidly
dapper ore
I'm very confused. First I hit record then truned off the mesh but nothing happened
And what do you mean 2 frames long I've never recorded I've always added a property
blazing meteor
Record mode is just an easier way to add properties, it adds the property of whatever you change
dapper ore
Alright but I hit record truned of the mesh then hit the record again ti stop it but nothing appeard
blazing meteor
Instead of adding the property and then changing it, you just change it
Because Adding properties manually is a lesson in insanity
Only villains do that
merry arch
I edit anim files in vim, deal with it
summer trench
Thank you for the response regarding texture! that's what I figured regarding textures, I will stick with the single material... for more context here is my WIP so far, finalizing some base UVs, then going to give creating a single painterly diffuse. I am sure I will be going back and forth through this process and have many more questions, hah.
dapper ore
Lol
tired shell
isn't that a world shader ?
worthy sage
Yeah lightmapped is only for worlds...
blazing meteor
Not all of the mobile shaders can be used on avatars. Also lightmapped shaders don't work on moving things, like avatars >_>
honest oak
that's so stupid !
It seem like I'm really blocked...
blazing meteor
I don't understand, you wanted your avatar to be lightmapped?
honest oak
yes
blazing meteor
...how?
honest oak
also I replace all poyomi shader to work with oculus
worthy sage
With quest?
honest oak
how to produce light with standard lite or toon ?
blazing meteor
Emissive texture
on Standard Lite
Standard Lite has Diffuse, Normalmap, Metallic, Smoothness, and Emissive.
It can look pretty great to using all 5 to be honest
If you want a half-lit look, use the matcap shader and find a half-lit matcap texture
honest oak
okay I see
and do you have any idea about "transparent" thing ?
I use Standard Asset --> Rendering Mode --> Transparent
but I don't see this option in Standard Lite
tired shell
no transparent "Welcome to Quest" 🙁
blazing meteor
There are no transparent shaders on quest
Cut the model if you need a detailed edge
honest oak
😐
honest oak
why I hate more and more oculus ?
blazing meteor
honest oak
ho ! thank you
blazing meteor
may want to brighten the black in a image editor
tired shell
converting avatars is a little challenging
blazing meteor
I'd say converting avatars is hard. making them from scratch with quest in mind is way easier
honest oak
I know but I have a friend who buy quest and... how say... robot mode isn't cool for him
worthy sage
The quest is too underpowered and you also have to upload avatars / worlds to specific platforms (PC and Android) most people on PC don’t want to use more of their time on optimization and uploading to quest.
blazing meteor
I'm actually seeing a good deal more avatars on quest, meaning people are indeed making them compatible.
honest oak
I understand, I don't want spend lot of time about that functionality too
blazing meteor
No one blames you.
honest oak
this is so bad
blazing meteor
It's just nice to see, I don't expect people to have quest versiosn
I honestly have no issue with the quest limits tbh
¯_(ツ)_/¯
worthy sage
That's good to hear but there's a difference between quest optimized and quest compatible.
Making an avatar quest compatible is easy, making it quest optimized eh not so much.
blazing meteor
Well when I say quest compatable I mean medium or better. I chose not to see poor/very poor
even if they are uploaded
honest oak
quest optimized is like impossible for a detailled avatar
honest oak
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timid nexus
hi do you know how to fix culling on quest is it even possible ?
blazing meteor
What type of culling issue are you seeing
dapper ore
Why cant I change the standard shader? Is there anyway to change the shader?
Sorry for the bad image
pastel storm
Because the material is still embedded in the fbx (still in a prefab). Extract the material from the prefab, there's a button for that in the import settings of the fbx under material.
dapper ore
I can't find the button?
dapper ore
Depends help with what?
warm dew
Well there's this game I like playing when I'm not on vr called rock band
Its not a 2020 tbing
thing
And I thought of using my custom rb2 (not vrchat, the game) character to hangout with friends and I need someone to make it
I'll take a picture of it real quic
quick
This is what he looks like (couldnt get full body so I had to take 2)
dapper ore
Idk how to help sorry
blazing meteor
By the way you can just press the print screen button instead of taking a photograph of your monitor...
odd veldt
Hey guys, I finally finished my model in blender and exported it as an fbx. What’s the next step in unity after I switched into android mode. Is there anything else I need to downloaded besides the sdk
dapper ore
No unless you want to add something to your avatar. You will need to change the shader and some other things the sdk will ask otherwise u should be good
odd veldt
Toon lit is good for quest correct?
blazing meteor
Any of the shaders in vrchat/mobile/ are fine, I personally recommend Diffuse. Toon is just kinda flat lit ambient
Depends on the model
heavy cove
odd veldt
I’m new to creating avatars so I don’t know much sorry. But I have 2 cameras how would I delete one
red citrus
is there a way to make textures double sided?
got an issue where the texture wont go all the way
but only on ceratin sides
merry arch
Easiest solution is to open it in blender or something and slightly extrude the polys on the strand
blazing meteor
Yeah extrude will also give it sides
golden kettle
so does anyone know why i can see "double" on my quest avatar, like i close one eye and see it on the left, and i close the other and see it on the right. i can only see it in the avatar menu but i can only assume others can see it too. ive had the same exact problem before on pc with a broken shader but obviously thats not the case here.
i really need to get this fixed soon because im about to upload the quest version of my avatar world, it hasnt happened on any of my other avatars, even on the ones that were uploaded at the same time. im using standard lite btw.
golden kettle
anyone?
sour torrent
Hello?
merry arch
It can be broken shader, even mobile shaders can fail to compile
Clear your shader cache in Unity and compile the shaders manually in Android project
warm dew
Wish someone could be able to make that rock band avatar
Like remove the shading and boom,character is made
blazing meteor
What shader is it using? @golden kettle
To my knowledge quest avatar shaders are on a whitelist, it doesn’t even use the shader code you upload. It strips it out and replaced it with its own.
merry arch
If you compiled the shaders locally it will bundle them, also if you're using some prefab particle systems with animators you could load unsupported or missing shader with fallback shader request in animation
It could also very well be problem of the world, try to load in different world to see if problem persists
golden kettle
I'm using standard lite like I mentioned
As for what juzuv said I have no idea how to do any of that
blazing meteor
Shouldn’t be an issue. Do other people see the problem? Do you see it when you look down at your own hands?
I feel like it may actually be a bad mirror?
golden kettle
i only saw it in the avatar menu, i didnt get a chance to test it out with other people, you cant see it in a mirror or if you look down
blazing meteor
If you can’t see it breaking on yourself or a mirror I wouldn’t worry about it. Menu is scheduled for a redo anyway
golden kettle
the last time i had this problem it only showed up in the menu and for other people
its also only on the quest version of the model so clearly something has gone wrong
and if it was a menu issue then why would it only happen on this model and its variants? not a single other one is having this problem.
blazing meteor
Hard to say. So it is happening on the actual quest version of VRChat?
golden kettle
yea
i havent gotten around to testing it around other people because last time i had this problem my friends begged me to change avatars because it was hurting their eyes
merry arch
Menu preview sometimes loads PC version of avatar for crossplatform avatars so it could be shader problem after all
Unless you use same shaders on both PC and Quest version, in that case it would be some weird bug
golden kettle
i know i used standard lite for both versions to cut down on time while uploading the many variants, its worked fine in the past
blazing meteor
Other people, if they are not also on quest, will see your Pc upload.
merry arch
Then it's some new bug, report it on canny
golden kettle
i guess ill go do that, not sure what exactly to put
blazing meteor
Explain and report what you say
golden kettle
would this fall under sdk or client bugs?
merry arch
Client
golden kettle
k
blazing meteor
I’d say server if it’s an option. Custom or otherwise broken/modified shaders shouldn’t be showing up on avatars on quest. That must be changed on the server end, but you can’t report server bugs I think. So just say client.
merry arch
It is, in fact, client bug, it's Unity attempting to load platform unsupported shaders which is handled locally depending on project build settings, server has no say in it
golden kettle
wdym unsupported?
merry arch
The blind eye flicker is result of Unity attempting to render shader that is not supported on GLES2 target, usually shader that either requieres full OGL or DX
blazing meteor
I suppose the client should strip the shader and show it as a missing shader, but I was focusing on how it got there in the first place.
golden kettle
you guys know alot more about this than i do
blazing meteor
So the SDK actually sends shaders on the Quest SDK? I was under the understanding it didn’t even use custom shader code but strips it out and uses their own internal ones.
merry arch
VRCA package will bundle shaders, it doesn't really make difference between platforms so if there's shader that isn't outright blacklisted by client (not really possible when you think of how many there are) it will just sit there doing nothing
And yes, SDK will bundle shaders, how else would people use custom shaders in worlds, it's just that client will only render its own whitelisted shaders and builtin shaders (because you can't realistically blacklist builtin shaders) on avatars
pastel storm
Anyone know where a guy can get a decent MGS1 Solid Snake avatar? I'm talkin low poly Snake 🐍
blazing meteor
I guess I assumed they’d be packaged but replaced on the case of quest avatars, just like dynamic bone scripts are stripped out and replaced with their internal versions (never trust user code)
golden kettle
oh for gods sake, i accidentally pressed ctrl a and deleted all that i wrote on canny
merry arch
Dynamic bones are not really stripped either, on technical level you could force upload of avatar with dynamic bone scripts as Quest build just like you can upload Quest avatars with FinalIK components and it will work for you locally (because FinalIK is currently broken), SDK doesn't seem to strip anything really, any blacklisting and exceptions seem to be handled solely by client
So something will always slip past any blacklist/exceptions becasue obviously there's too many variables
See: audio and colliders glitch recently
daring cedar
Yoo peeps im a small vr youtuber thats willing to pay for a good vr chat avatar for me. If you are a good avatar maker then dm me and send me some of your work i might just wanna pay you to make me a good one.
tame heron
Is there a way to bypass the thing where it blocks some avatars on quest?
golden kettle
nope
god i hate canny, i need to scroll down to click the create post button but it keeps going back down as it loads more questions
well the bug is posted now, no clue what to do now
pastel storm
I'm working with an artist on a toony avatar and he knows how to do everything except exporting to unity for vrchat specifically are there any tips I should give him other than the tips in the pins about optimization? also how much animation is allowed like in terms of expressions etc. I don't know the technical nature of any of this just want to pass it on to him
all i know is like two versions Android and windows (?) under 10k polygons uploaded through unity with the optimization techniques added but everything else is Greek to me
blazing meteor
Tell him that Unity just needs a rigged model exported as .fbx format. The skeleton needs a Hip, spine, chest, neck, head, and shoulders, upper arm, lower arm, hands, and at least 3 fingers, upper and lower legs, and feet. Optionally a full hand has 10 fingers with 3 bones each in addition to the palms. It can have extra bones for other things but you'll animate them yourself.
He should understand all of that if he does 3D models.
Once you have the fbx file (along with the images/textures) You can do the rest yourself following vrchat tutorals, the unity part is easy.
Recommend not asking modelers/comissioners to do the unity part. it's not part of their job description :)
pastel storm
thank you. lifesaver. yeah he's not gonna do that last bit
I'll figure it out when I get to it
halcyon pike
does the pinned link work for anyone?
blazing meteor
As in does it load and can I read it? Yes.
keen haven
Can anyone help with the top three errors I know it’s to do with the rig but I’ve mapped it all correctly?
spare maple
@keen haven Click on the fbx in the Unity browser, set it to humanoid in the inspector and there's also a button that opens the menu so you can assign bones to the humanoid setup
keen haven
@spare maple i've done all of that that's why im lost on why im getting these error
spare maple
Are you certain?
@keen haven https://i.imgur.com/qCllG5T.png Did you go through all of these options and made sure everything that needed to be mapped was mapped?
keen haven
I personally can’t see a problem With this
spare maple
And the other three settings?
keen haven
I built the rig through mixamo could that be something to do with it?
Yes
The model only has 3 fingers
spare maple
Can't really see the mapping for the bones that aren't specified in here
keen haven
blazing meteor
I’ve had that issue before. Sometimes the Skelton data gets cached wrong. The only way I could fix it was to delete the avatar from the scene and drag the FBX into the scene over again and re-bind it
blazing meteor
Yeah I had your exact issue yesterday. Was even a quest avatar
But it went away when I reimported
keen haven
Ok
warm dew
Can anyone make an avatar for me real quick
blazing meteor
Can I see the game object tree
warm dew
Yes
blazing meteor
I wasn’t.. talking.. what.. ok, go ahead then
keen haven
Ima be real this is my first time so I hardly know unity😂
blazing meteor
No worries I’m also using the wrong terminology
Outside of bone config screen, show the game object list on left side . Fully expanded
In regular scene view
keen haven
I don’t think a model could be more simple look at it how am I having trouble 😂
This?
blazing meteor
It looks like you have two avatars, one inside the other
Unless I’m seeing it wrong
keen haven
He has a hat that’s separated
blazing meteor
I would recommend backing up the scene and deleting all avatars except one
keen haven
Ok
blazing meteor
It is thinking the hat is a separate object, if it’s just a hat, and it doesn’t need to bend or anything, delete it’s bones in blender and fuse the two models
You can’t really join models in unity on quest, you have to join them in blender and import as a single model in unity or it will be too complex for quest to handle
keen haven
Ohh ok then
I think I got it now thanks m8
I’ll probably be back in like 10 mins tho
hardy pumice
when i use a avatar with particles there is a black box around it anyoneknow why ?
keen haven
@hardy pumice could just be the particale isn't usable for quest. My guess anyway
is there anyway to change the default material on a fbx file to be mobile compatable?
quest compatable in this case
tidal umbra
blazing meteor
velvet hawk
@hardy pumice VRChat's current update turned particles and any type of transparency off for avatars. Ruined quite a bit of avatars because of this. You'll just have to wait and hope they update it again to fix the issue.
blazing meteor
Particles on avatars are entirely possible on quest. You just can’t use the particle shader. If you need a particle that is not square, you must supply your own particle mesh shape.
pastel storm
I'm wondering if anyone knows where I can find Metal Gear avatars for quest? (Ping me if know anythibg thanks)
velvet hawk
@pastel storm Avatars currently available to use for Quest or Avatars that you can find to set up for Quest ?
pastel storm
Currently available to use for the quest
elder cosmos
Anyone have a gon or killua?
velvet hawk
@pastel storm I spent some time looking around and couldn't find the world, but I have seen that there is a Snake avatar around. There is also a Raiden (Skulker suit from MGS2) sitting available on a website.
@elder cosmos I have also seen a Killua walking around present, but I could not locate a world with it.
pastel storm
Appreciate it. I might be able to find the snake one
pastel storm
Thanks
blazing meteor
Man I wish switching platforms didn’t have to rebuild EVERYTHING. Is there some way to mark certain images. materials, and shaders platform specific so they don’t recompile every time I switch platforms?
dry zealot
turn the server local cache on
silk hill
Wish I could have a Luigi avatar but I can’t find one anywhere for quest 😔
green shuttle
If I were to say that I wanted to work on a 3D model and wanted somebody to help me with just like the accessories and weapons and such
Dm me if you're down. I don't own my Quest yet and I can't get VR chat desktop mode to work on my Dinosaur of a pc
hollow flame
Hey question if we have an optimized quest avatar or I guess if this is even possible. Can we put a mirror around our avatar?(for recording purposes on the quest)
pale torrent
I’m pretty sure u can’t
hollow flame
Darn. Didn’t think that was possible but thought I’d ask
dull tinsel
What do you mean by that? (Mirror around avatar)
blazing meteor
Avatars can’t wear mirrors. The script isn’t allowed on avatars, even on PC.
dry zealot
two model and under 7,500 
golden kettle
cool
blazing meteor
Nice! Edge loop desolving?
pastel storm
Anyone wants to make me an avatar?
Just to add clothing
To a base
And done
Text me if you want
pure lynx
Hey quick question , how comes the "VRChat/Mobile/Particles/Alpha Blended" does not actually work or allow you to upload the model due to an error?
dry zealot
some shader are for map only
pure lynx
well, when no shaders in the VRChat/Mobile have a cutout Feature you know you are screwed at the start XD
dry zealot
always low poly from the start
blazing meteor
Blended/cutout tends to be avoided on mobile chipsets. It’s fairly intensive. Keep in mind that even on PC systems, using a flat but solid complex mesh shape for particle shapes is way less intensive than square particles with a cutout shader.
And yes quest avatars must be made in a way that does not reply on cutout detail. Actually model with geometry, don’t rely on textures for edge detail
This is actually beneficial for PC, too.
dry zealot
yes. to have sharp edge. use the geo instead.
grand oar
How would it look if I use a mesh particle instead of normal particles
Mesh is is a 3d particle right ?
merry arch
It will look like the mesh
If you need bullets, for example, you can use the default unity sphere
Just keep in mind that mesh particles will almost certainly tank you to very poor
tight plank
unity keeps freezing once I convert a model to android, file pretty much becomes unusable because unity won't corporate x.x
blazing meteor
Switching platforms does take some time to re-compile the entire project
merry arch
Also keep in mind it will try to create metadata for all assets again so it's entirely possible for editor to simply run out of memory and crash when there's lots of assets present
dry zealot
With ssd might be faster
jagged dragon
hey so when i upload my avatar to quest its just black but its fine on pc does anyone know how to fix it
dry zealot
delete vertex color in blender
jagged dragon
im not in blender though
dry zealot
pastel storm
dry zealot
craggy glacier
pastel storm
soo cuteee
blazing meteor
Awesome! I wish more people knew about dissolving edge loops, it looks way better than decimation
golden kettle
yeah i think its going to come in handy for a model im working on, close to 5000 already but edge loops should bring it there
keen haven
Anyone wanna lend a hand I’m uploading a model that will swap out for another one once I do a hand gesture but I’m only getting as far as making the main model vanish?
crude saffron
so im trying to make an avatar and i keep on getting this error, any fix?
im using 3 materials
keen haven
You can’t use the lightmapped material
crude saffron
what do i use then
keen haven
That’s for maps only I believe so it’s locked for avatars
One of your textures is using the lightmapped texture so just change that to something else that’s in mobile and you’re golden
crude saffron
but the thing is
its in the VRChat/Mobile section
thats the only one that i found that just applies a texture
keen haven
lightmapped is for exclusively worlds I believe not avatars
crude saffron
ok
keen haven
Does the material not show up in any other texture?
keen haven
It may be a problem with the original images texture then
crude saffron
hm, alrighty
keen haven
Just resave a new jpg and reapply
crude saffron
gitcha
keen haven
If that don’t work then I don’t know
crude saffron
gotcha
keen haven
Vrchat is janky af
crude saffron
true story though
blazing meteor
Your model has a vertex colors. Open it up in blender and delete the vertex colors
crude saffron
okay
keen haven
Here was are someone smarter than me 👌
blazing meteor
The quest shaders blend the texture with the vertex color, which most shaders usually ignore, but quest shaders don’t. Makes it easy to color things without a texture.
crude saffron
i c
pastel storm
I've been trying to find a Doom Slayer avatar. I think I've seen it before but I forgot the world
odd veldt
Does anyone one know how reduce file size of an avatar to below 10MB pls
velvet hawk
@odd veldt
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Reducing the amount of Polygons, such as going into Blender and Decimating (lowering polycount) or manually doing it yourself. You can also Merge Vertices by Distance to further clean up and reduce poly count.
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Reducing the quality of textures themselves by downsizing the images.
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If you are knowledgeable with Blender's interface, you can optimize your texturing by coloring everything on your model with the most reduced UV mapping down to the only the necessary colors.
odd veldt
Thank you I’m going to try this rn
fading stream
How do I download one of these avatars
odd veldt
Hey guys about the how to reduce file size of avatars. I tried to just import the base version of my model and it still has the exact amount of file size of 51mb
spare maple
Downscale the textures
Textures are usually responsible for high file sizes. You can select them and reduce the resolution to downscale them so they take up less space
clever veldt
dose any one have a phantomblood dio avatar i have sdc but im looking for a pt 1 dio dm me if anyone has one
or a young dio
lofty valve
I've got a problem. One that I'm sure one of the skilled creators in this server can help me solve.
So, I've known VRChat for a long time. I got my Oculus Quest a few days ago, and I've hardly had it off since. I was a little disappointed about a few limitations in the Quest version of VRChat, but I've either gotten used to or worked around most of them.
However, as my name may imply, I'm also a huge fan of Cave Story. I've searched all over VRChat for an avatar depicting Cave Story's protagonist, Quote. Sadly, I've found nothing in terms of avatars that could satisfy me. I've seen one world based on Mimiga Village, but not on Quest. I don't think that has the avatar I'm looking for, anyway.
Sorry for the massive wall of text. I'll get to the point.
I would like to request assistance in obtaining a Quote avatar. At this point, I don't care if the model is chibi, anime styled, or just ripped from another source like the 3DS remake or Crystal Crisis. If anyone at all can help me with this, let me know. My VRChat username is the same as my Discord name, so I shouldn't be too difficult to find.
fleet olive
ok
shut orchid
why not upload one yourself 
lofty valve
3 reasons, actually.
- My PC probably couldn't handle it
- I have no idea how to make/upload models
- I'm lazy as hell lmao
shut orchid
1.your pc can handle the upload 2.well shid 2.5.tutorials are your friend 3.uninstall/delete laziness.dll
lofty valve
I guess I could try making one...
Or just rigging one off the internet
I'd need to download some things first...
And find out how to make them Quest Compatible.
Not to mention figuring out how the hell to get it ingame anyway.
lofty valve
Welp.
I'm downloading the latest version of Unity and both Chrome and Discord have nearly shut down, and my PC almost crashed.
It's still downloading.
merry arch
I hope you don't mean the latest version of Unity because for VRC you need 2018.4.20f1
merry arch
Tutorial is likely outdated and latest at the time of its making was 5.6 or something
lofty valve
hhhhh
I wasted 20+ minutes on the wrong install
And Chrome won't even opennnnnn
Do I need Unity hub?
dry zealot
That usefull
lofty valve
See, this is why I didn't want to do it myself. It's far too complicated for me, and has the chance to ruin my PC.
I restarted it five minutes ago and it's not even done.
blazing meteor
Unity hub will help in the future if VRChat ever changes what version of unity they want you to use
lofty valve
I don't see 2018.4.20f1, but I do see 2018.4.23f1
blazing meteor
Assuming you are using unity hub, it doesn’t list all versions. You can get the specific version from VRChat.com download section
lofty valve
Ah.
blazing meteor
But assuming you want to make models you want blender. Unity is a game engine, it can’t make models itself
lofty valve
I already have the models I want, I just need to know how to get them ingame.
blazing meteor
Unity likes modes as .fbx
blazing meteor
If they arent fbx blender can import anything and export anything
If you grab it from the game it’s probably not quest ready but most can be made quest ready pretty easily, well
Given you know blender
lofty valve
I do not.
blazing meteor
Wait cave story does not use 3-D models
blazing meteor
Dm me
pastel storm
waiting for fixed particles
vivid wraith
I haven't made avatars in forever and know literally nothing about Quest avatars- what's the poly limit for Quest avatars?
5k?
@blazing meteor The 3ds remake actually uses 3d models, but they're kind of uggo
spice schooner
I'd do 7500 at least
vivid wraith
Oh, I mean like a hard limit enforced by VRChat.
spare maple
There's not really one, but anything above 10k will be marked very poor and default blocked regardless of settings
spice schooner
spare maple
Try to stay below that for the very least
I think less than 7500 still gives you medium
Yeah it does
burnt sinew
Yo I have one more avatar that would be cool if it could be imported to quest, the model is made for VRChat, I just need someone to import it for me since my computer is unusable
It’s for someone else, I just thought i’d ask to see if anyone could help me out
It’s complicated, your best bet is watching a youtube video or finding someone experienced to help you out
dry zealot
Our chat
white seal
compact lily
you download vrchat to play vrchat
pastel storm
🤨
proper sage
I'm stuck as an ant and I can't change my avatar, can someone please help me
pastel storm
I'm trying to upload a quest avatar using vrchat toon lit shader but for some reason the shader changes the color of the pants. Its originally tan colored as you can see from the texture but it appears green on the avatar. How can I fix this?
pastel storm
@proper sage go to the NieR world
proper sage
I can't, my menu won't show up
pastel storm
Are you on right now?
And what world are you in
I can help, as long as you're in a public world
@proper sage try to find someone who can drop you a portal
Unless you're in a private world 🤨
dry zealot
Delete vertex color in blender
dry zealot
what the issue with louis
blazing meteor
All of Valve’s Source assets from their golden era games can be obtained directly from them, via Source Filmmaker. They are licensed, so make sure your use of them is allowed.
pastel storm
Does anyone have a Mandalorian avatar but it being quest compatible
pastel storm
valve said that they say its fine to use their assets for sfm surley they will allow avatars right?
jagged sequoia
not necessarily because Source Filmmaker is a valve program so you're not moving the assets outside of their ecosystem
rustic zenith
Oof I have an avatar I wanna make but I don't have a computer to make it
shell bronze
Are there any 7ds avatars out there?
pastel storm
Does Anyone know of a good star wars avatar world with general grievous in it? If do, ping me
slow flare
Does anyone know a map that has a blond anime boy skin or does anyone have one?
dry zealot
Kings raid
slow flare
Thanks!
restive canyon
does anybody have or know where to find borderlands avatars especially handsome jack
pastel storm
Samnce might have one
restive canyon
do i ask samnce?
pastel storm
They have a world
restive canyon
whats it called
pastel storm
Sammce's Quest Avatars
restive canyon
ok thanks
slender skiff
Any animated dragon ball avatars around? Custoe's and kami's lookout don't quite have what i'm looking for.
pastel storm
Could someone dm me the names is sone worlds with some lewd avatars because like ash Ketchum I must em all and by "them" I mean lewd avatars
shut orchid
Uh, in what way "lewd" avatars?
You know, this is a 13+ game so lewd is not really considered sfw, which therefore means it is not reeeally allowed
shut orchid
golden kettle
I wish I could know the answer to that too, I've been in public avatar worlds that have avatars that are practically naked but I've heard of people getting banned for using avatars with less showing
vital palm
It's all about getting to know the right people man
blazing meteor
It's pretty simple. It's a 13+ game and NSFW content isn't allowed. It's not enforced consistently, so just because some people get away with it doesn't mean you will. If you break the rules, consider you risking the account.
People really overcomplicate stuff!
sage wraith
Any bumblebee from revenge of the fallen avatars? the one I have isn't really doing it for me
main whale
///
lost hinge
Heyy
I’ve been trying to get VR chat on my phone but idk if it works or not I don’t even have a pc that’s runs it if an can help me get it that would be great if not then ok 😦
worthy sage
What made you think VRChat is on phones? It's not at all, the only thing close to it would be the Oculus Quest which uses mobile hardware and that's it otherwise you would have to play on a PC.
golden kettle
yeah i already said that but he said that he knew
coarse lodge
Anyone know where a zero two avatar is?
pastel storm
a funny one with funny animation
??
glossy forge
"Today at 2:31 AM"
pseudo sierra
pastel storm
dm me for wisdom
pastel storm
can someone take this file and turn it into a avatar
i dont know anything about unity so i cant answer questions all i know is that this is a avatar
pastel storm
i figured out how to make avatars nvm
empty zephyr
does anyone know how to create visemes and eye tracking on avatars that don't have bones or shapekeys pre-made
dry zealot
Probably
pastel storm
i need help everytime i try to upload an avatar to quest it makes a noise and stops uploading
brazen ledge
Any gecko avatars I can be lead to for quest?
chrome minnow
So I want to learn how to Port avatars with no prior knowledge what so ever, where's a good place to start learning?
dry zealot
youtube
chrome minnow
Any specific people?
blazing meteor
You'll want the latest copy of blender (just use the version from Steam)
You'll also want a blender plugin called "Cats Plugin for Blender" that gives you some VRChat tools to make porting the content easier
But you'll also need to know some blender basics on how to actually use blender and navigate it's menus
You'll need VRChat's specific version of unity, as well as their recommended SDK for avatars.
After you have all those things setup, there are a number of tutorals on youtube, but if you are honestly starting fresh with no blender or unity experience you are going to have quite a lot to learn at once even for very simple ports.
I'd start with some CATS Plugin blender tutorals. No I don't have any names
lapis mist
Anyone know where a vibe check avatar is not one from crackerinos world because those are food and i dont want them to be food but if its a vibe check avatar then y e s i will trade avatars for it would like one that has guns/can turn creepy if not then its okay as long as its a quest vibe check avatar
sullen kayak
@pseudo sierra I hope you will optimize the avatars!!!
silver wadi
lapis mist
So is it a yes or no on the vibecheck avatar
sullen kayak
@lapis mist read the rules. These channels are for making avatars not looking for publics
Also stop posting the same question in multiple channels
lapis mist
I take thst as a hard maybe
lunar steeple
ive seen people use the rainbow shader on a quest avatar, anyone know how this was done.
blazing meteor
It’s probably an animation instead of a shader.
reef kindle
@lunar steeple - were you in desktop?
lunar steeple
no was on quest
reef kindle
you were on quest? was probably an animation of the uv map then
lunar steeple
is there a tutorial or something so i could learn to do that?
reef kindle
it could also be particle. Particles are supported on quest with additive blending even
it's not too hard: here's a quick tutorial
so you put your avatar in, the material should be vrchat-mobile-toon
or whatever mobile shader is available
and what you're changing is the material offset on the avatar
like this:
reef kindle
so basically the material should actually be a rainbow, but the part that's uv mapped is the visible part
so when you're making or editng the model (to make it custom this requires blender)
you basically set a material to whatever "lines" you want to be rainbow, uvmap that in a straight line on like... the left hand side of the texture
then you make an animation that scrolls the texture across X or whatever
so the offset starts at 0 and ends at like 0.1 or something or however big it is
then you loop it
and stick that in your idle animation
lunar steeple
thank you!!!
shadow olive
hey guys, im trying to atlas a texture
only issue is, it's supposed to tile itself 10 times
if it's a seperate material, i can tile it in unity
but i cant do that if i want to keep it as 1 material
so
does anybody know how to tile a texture like 10 times?
it's this one:
i got photopea (it's like an online photoshop) and ms paint
warm dew
I need someone to make me a quest avatar
I took a picture of my TV on a screen of my ps3 on a game that I need someone to make
I don't have the vrchat sdk
That's why I'm asking
lunar steeple
You can just download the vrchat sdk
turbid latch
hey guys what do i have to do to be able to upload my avatar?
blazing meteor
You need to use a vrchat account, Steam accounts can’t upload. You also have to no longer be considered a visitor (which means just play the game more)
midnight pawn
Would there be a way to combine meshes with different materials within unity itself?
i would do this in blender by just creating an atlas and merging the meshes afterwards- but im curious to see if theres a way to do that in unity
blazing meteor
No, unity can’t model at all, it’s a game engine
There are most likely paid unity plug-ins to let you do things that blender can already do for free, but an actual powerful 3D modeler (blender) is going to let you do everything you need
midnight pawn
alright cool! i figured that was probably the case, but I just wanted to see ^^;
wintry cosmos
dry zealot
4 420 tris
spice schooner
That looks awesome, franada. Good job
pastel storm
Plsss help me someone I always get this error when I try uploading sum for pc
I just made a model with vroid & did the whole exporting to vrchat stuff but I'm on quest, it's like 15k polygons and I can't do anything with unity to make it simpler or android friendly and it sucks please help
shut orchid
use blender
pastel storm
I have it but I don't know anything about this stuff
And the tutorial I was trying to follow was using unity
Could u guys stil help me with my problem?!?
Im rlly stuck pls @pastel storm
Idk anything about that don't ping me
Ok😔
@shut orchid do u know it?
shut orchid
huh, nope, haven't worked with quest uploads
pastel storm
Damn😔 still thanks for responding tho
pastel storm
Does anybody know anyone or own a vanny skin from fnaf
magic ivy
Who knows where I can get a Swaggersouls avatar?
plain orbit
Anyone Know a place to get a Bill Cipher Avatar
velvet hawk
@plain orbit i would always first just google something like " Bill Cipher 3D Model " . https://sketchfab.com/3d-models/bill-cipher-from-gravity-falls-ecf156f3a8a0497a841f1a24a8bc4973
plain orbit
How Would i animate it? And put it in the game?
velvet hawk
You need to ensure it has an armature (bones) in it, otherwise you will have to do it yourself. It's a bit of a process but you'll need both Unity and Blender in order to get everything you need out of avatar creating.
plain orbit
o ok Thanks ill try and if it fails i can try and get it commissioned lol
magic ivy
Nvm got swagger
dapper mauve
@plain orbit I made this a while back, not sure how well it'd work on quest but eh https://www.deviantart.com/cmankarthecat/art/SCRAPPED-PROJECT-Bill-Cipher-for-VRChat-dl-838653588
plain orbit
Ty I'll check it out it and try and turn it into an avatar
dapper mauve
@plain orbit Remember to use the provided scene, it has most stuff already set up
shut orchid
oh neat, mystery Dorito with a hat
urban geyser
Does anyone know where I can get avatars from the show sword art online
plain orbit
Lol Im not near my computer will work on it tomorrow and when I finish I'll see who wants the Dorito man and try and get it out
pastel storm
can someone please help me make the avatar work for quest? https://www.deviantart.com/webkinzliker264/art/MMD-She-ra-POP-Catra-DL-843409520
been trying for so long to optimize and everything in blender but CATS keeps screwing everything up with texture atlasing and all that and even if i dont texture atlas as soon as i put it in unity it looks all messed up
the short hair model specifically since there are 2
like for some reason when i hit fix model in blender using cats the tail turns purple lol, when i texture atlas the shorts, socks, eyes all change colour and are textured all wrong
spare maple
Sounds like there's either no material assigned to it or the material has no texture
pastel storm
i think youre right
i honestly just have no idea what im doing at this point im willing to just pay someone like 50 bucks to get everything working and compatible with quest for me
spare maple
It's not technically that hard, and most certainly not worth paying something that much money
I got mine decimated just fine using the decimator in CATS with the setting on full
Yeah I lose shapekeys but that's alright for me
Atlasing also worked perfectly fine
I think I did assign all the textures to the materials before though as that wasn't the case when I imported the model
magic ivy
Can someone please make me a goku or frieza avatar? One is fine
spare maple
@magic ivy Rule 15, please don't post the same message across multiple channels
magic ivy
Okay
pastel storm
okay i just made my own textures and new ones for materials that didnt have any and that seems to have fixed my issues yay
marsh bolt
you can become a quest user on Roblox now
pastel storm
lol
golden kettle
for goodness sake
pastel storm
spent all this time working on my avatar just to find out i have to play vrchat longer to even upload it
lol
also my avatar is around 28k tri's i think, should i decimate the shit out of it to optimize for quest or can i just like, force my quest to deal with it
i want it to be for both pc and quest so i can use it on both when im eventually able to play with the link cable
im prolly gonna have to decimate huh
lol
pastel storm
so far able to get down to 9945 tris without having to get rid of shape keys, would that be uploadable for quest? even though ik the suggested limit it 5k
compact lily
The suggested limit is more 7500 tris, the very poor limit is 10k, and the point where people dislike you is around 20k.
So, it is uploadable for quest
steel grove
How would I reduce my polygons?
compact lily
Maunually dissolving edge loops in blender
Or decimation
Decimation kinda destroys shape keys though
steel grove
@compact lily hey sorry i didnt respond to your last messages thank you but do you know why the vrchat sdk is doing this?
compact lily
Check the console for errors
steel grove
ok
compact lily
I should keep that on my clipboard
pastel storm
ok got it down to like 9.5k, thats the best i could do with out the model looking like floating triangles n shit
steel grove
this is all i could find
@compact lily sorry to at you im just trying to get my first avatar playable
compact lily
No errors...
steel grove
nope
steel grove
2018.4.20f1
compact lily
Maybe restart unity
steel grove
ok
compact lily
If it’s still broken, make a new project
steel grove
alright
magic ivy
steel grove
can someone link me a tutorial for making a avatar quest compatible?
pastel storm
@steel grove https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qVHYs3CsiyU&t=365s
ideally youll want your model to be 5000 tris or less tho or at least under 10k
steel grove
ok
pastel storm
have to decimate in blender
steel grove
dang
pastel storm
i have a tut for that too tho hold on
steel grove
ok
pastel storm
steel grove
do you experience a problem with unity crashing when you try to make it a android project?
steel grove
ok
pastel storm
and no but then again i havent even tried yet
steel grove
yeah it just crashes unity and there is no fix yet.
im hoping it was just because i was ready to upload it when i tried to make it android
nope
steel grove
ok
pastel storm
im no expert tho
pastel storm
yea i always back up
pastel storm
yea i been getting super frustrated getting everything to work
mostly because my avatar was just annoying af to optimize
had to make my own textures because the og ones were getting all weird
steel grove
ah that sucks
@pastel storm if this doesnt work do you mind seeing if it will work for you?
here ya go @pastel storm if ya wanna try. i cant get it to work(pls dm me if you do)
i have to sleep goodnight
grim star
Hi guys I'm not yet able to join the community players of vrchat but by any chance is there any skin developers willing to make a low quality skin or two
Dm me
I can pay you in smiles
And a trip of a lifetime In Rec room
magic ivy
steel grove
Hey my unity crashes when I try to switch to the android build target any one know why?
steel grove
anyone know how to fix this?
dry zealot
it dont matter
steel grove
Ok
plain orbit
I haven't seen one
plain orbit
thats a REALLY late meassge lol
My Computer keeps trying to "protect me from hackers" and wont let me in the link Cmankar sent. Anyone know any loopholes? lol
frail field
Tried making a custom model on blender and then importing it into unity. But after I uploaded the avatar, it shows the error bot. Idk how to fix it. I tried everything to make an avatar correctly but it comes out all the same.
dapper mauve
@plain orbit Go to deviantart and search for 'bill cipher vrchat'
echo cairn
Does anyone have some Hazbin hotel avatar worlds or avatars them selves?
That are quest compatible that is
plain orbit
ive seen quite a few
curse my over protective computerrr lol loop holes did not work Xd im sure ill find a way soon doh
wise pendant
Who can make me a kon avatar HMU @wise pendant
pastel storm
https://sketchfab.com/3d-models/the-second-sister-jedi-fallen-order-0c7becdeb4fe4814a3217124331323b6 I spotted this model on a website wondering if someone could possibly make this quest compatible especially since I'm a star wars fan!
prime meadow
anyone know of any Hk-47 quest compatible avatars? im really wanting one since its one of my all time favorite characters.
toxic roost
Just a question.
Do alpha-textures not work on the standard-lite shader or am I doing something wrong?
How would I be able to use cutout textures on standard lite?
worthy sage
Can't do transparency on Quest, too performance heavy.
worthy sage
Anything that would need to use transparency needs to be remade to not require it. (Or leave it that way if that's fine with you)
toxic roost
Would I have to go into blender and actually reshape the chains to remove those parts, then?
worthy sage
The alpha needs to be removed from the texture and yes you would likely need to remove parts of the mesh that would normally use transparency (I.E. The black parts around the edges of the chain and inside of it)
toxic roost
You know what?
This is not going to be nearly as optimized, but I'm going to straight up just use 3D chains.
Er, nevermind.
This still presents me with the issue of the leather cutouts on the body itself.
toxic roost
Imma just leave em as is 
This is good enough, it just fills in the transparency with duplicate pixels from the main texture
regal tinsel
im following a tutorial on how to start with creating an avatar from scratch
is there anything in particular i have to do in order to use it with the quest?
compact lily
Change build platform to android under File > Build Settings, then reupload.
Also optimise it @regal tinsel
regal tinsel
alright
it will just be a sort of 2 dimentional sad chip with stick arms and legs
so nothing to optimize really
stoic geyser
Pog, managed to optimise my first ever model
honest thunder
Okay, I'm having a very strange problem.
I have cat ears attached to a shape key that pop up when a gesture is played.
That works fine, but apparently, when the ears are up, they don't stay attached to the head.
At first I thought maybe the ears weren't rigged to the head, but they certainly are.
In fact, they're verifiably functional even within Unity.
Supposedly the guy I'm making it for is saying that the ears don't stay on the head when he moves his head.
But ONLY when the shape key is active, which doesn't make sense to me.
honest thunder
Okay the issue is different than I expected.
Apparently two gestures are stacking on top of each other.
I assume it's because both hands have their own gestures.
pine venture
anyone that could help me? i'm trying to make some quest models for the first time, but for some reasons when i apply the mobile Vrchat shaders to the material, they turn green or another color (just not the texture color how it should be) anyone knows how to fix this?
sacred matrix
Working on a Quest ready version of my big Deku Avatar https://gyazo.com/bb92ad64bb6b2baf28f8b82482290135 With some particles and a expression for One for All, eye tracking, visesmes and in theory fbt ready. ~7750K Polys, 1 Material (2 for the Particle systems) and ~50 particles max.
dry zealot
@pine venture delete vertex color in blender
pine venture
and where exactly can i do that?
pine venture
nvm found it :3
long fox
Does anyone know where I can find avatar like this?
blazing meteor
The avatar name is Hobkin
Creator name is Hobert, it’s a patreon avatar
shut orchid
wow, nice image detection Adeon
lean oyster
Not sure why I cannot upload my quest avatar. No critical errors. I can upload it in unity 2017 with an earlier sdk build. Won't work in the current build in 2018.
dry zealot
you need this version
lean oyster
Does this look correct?
blazing meteor
That's the right version.
Humor me - please deactivate any other avatars that may also be in the scene at the moment
lean oyster
Gotcha, just a sec.
@blazing meteor That was it! Thank you. Strange, it worked in the older version of Unity with the two avatars present. Maybe it was for safety reasons.
blazing meteor
It's Quest-build-specific behavior I don't know if it's a bug
lean oyster
I was trying to keep the PC and Quest avatars in the same scene to make it more assessable for newer users to mod them. It's not a big deal though.
blazing meteor
Yeah I feel like it should be a bug, it's only enabled if every avatar is quest compatable instead of the current one selected
I reported it if you wanna vote on it https://vrchat.canny.io/sdk-bug-reports/p/sdk-disables-all-publish-buttons-if-just-one-avatar-in-scene-has-an-error
pastel storm
@blazing meteor Hey can you help a user out with SDK? I'm a little confused
lean oyster
@blazing meteor Voted. Thanks again!
lofty relic
Dose anyone know how to fix this?
I tried removing the key shapes, visemes, and even dropping the poly count to below 10k. (I know the good standard should be 5k, but the MB still doesn't change even with that.) But every time I try my hands with it in unity, it just gives me this main error.
Any advice?
charred granite
Compress and reduce your textures files. Using one material helps reducing the size too.
dry zealot
try this on your fbx
dry zealot
@lofty relic
lofty relic
ahh i fixed it
i hadd to uncheck the import camera/lights
thanks
@dry zealot @charred granite
dry zealot
rustic zenith
Can someone make me an avatar I cant
glad cobalt
pay
dry zealot
dry zealot
pastel storm
Wow
pastel storm
Anyone got the spider hand puppet avatar?
restive canyon
does any body have know where to find life is strange 1 avatars
pastel storm
d0es a wide putin avat4r with music exist?
spice schooner
Not on Quest
pastel storm
wut b0ut on link?
spice schooner
Yes, it does
spice schooner
Saw wide Putin but not sure where it came from. I don't think I've seen a nekoarc.
pastel storm
is ther3 a way of se4rching avatars or u just gott4 like stumble into it?
imm4 n00b sry ju5t joined vr lik3 . .. 4 days ago
also onl7 have on qu3st atm
downlo4ing on oculus wh3n 4lyx is done . .
spice schooner
Hopping avatar worlds is a good idea. In game you can't really search specific avatars officially.
pastel storm
ah kk
🤔 nek0arc wouldnt be hard to mod3l would it . . . . maybe ill mak3 that my first att3mpt . .
spice schooner
Not 100% sure what that is but give it a shot. One might exist online
proud merlin
im not sure if there is a way to do this anymore, but is there a functional snail marker fix for quest?
the only thing i can pull off its have it just delete after changing gestures, or have it shoot off into -100k at the beginning/end of each line
ive tried changing the texture so that the edges are transparent but i dont seem to be able to get that to work, as i tested it with a black border on the file and found that only the bit that stretches out a lot is black
i then changed the black to transparent but it doesnt seem to work properly
please @ me
regal ember
Hello im looking for a custom vr chat model or face rig (preferably face rig rn) if anyone can help or point me in the right direction that would be great
pastel storm
Hello People, maybe someone here knows a sulution to my problem. I have an Avatar which works fine on PC and it has 70k Polys. The problem is that it's file size is too large (80MB). I tried to compress textures but it didn't do too much. Could it be that the Poly Count needs to be reduced ? I searched for a sulution online but didn't found something sadly.
verbal yarrow
@pastel storm Make sure Legacy blend Shape Normals is checkmarked
pastel storm
@verbal yarrow Thanks ! I'll try that when i get off work.
brisk dragon
This has probably been answered a ton already, and Sorry ahead of time. but I've spent hours trying to wrap my head around the issue already, and would like a solution please.
I'm trying to upload my avatar for both PC and Quest, works fine in PC, but for quest it says i need to change the shader. I know where the shaders are, the issue is that the shader dropdown box is grayed out as "Standard", as in I can't change/alter it at all. I tried dragging shaders onto the box or anywhere around it, but nothing.
Any info is much appreciated. <3
worthy sage
Your materials are likely embedded into the .fbx file (if it is .fbx). You can extract them in the model import settings which should then allow you to edit the materials.
brisk dragon
Yes, It's a .fbx model, Would that be done in unity? or blender?
I do have CATS for blender, is there a option to flip? or is that in default blender/unity settings?
worthy sage
You would do it in Unity, click on the FBX file in Unity and at the top right under inspector a couple of options with tabs should open up. (The model used in the picture below already has the materials extracted so the button is greyed out)
brisk dragon
Ah! great! that worked, I am able to change the shader now. thank you very much! +1