but you cant remain idle - it's not a time based thing, so get socializing uwu
#avatar-quest
delicate basalt
elder parcel
thank you so much @delicate basalt
It's not me who made this avatar @pastel storm
Yes
How could I optimize ?
It's going to be complicated for me
Ok thanks, I'm going to try
jagged sequoia
distant epoch
nice, thanks
got a rift-s working on my laptop (thank god thunderbolt3)
so there's no excuse to make cross-platform stuff π
random badge
You got both?
distant epoch
yis
the advantage are the cross store apps. buy once. enjoy both.
also, i do intend to develop for quest, and the pc version is convenient
also Gorn. i do hope they bring that to Quest, but it's a stretch.
pastel storm
Blue or anyone got any videos that I can look at to see how to do that? So I can see if the avatar have hidden meshes.
last heart
Can someone show me how to add a animation to an avatar please ?
please dm me if you have the time to show me
long talon
Any tips on getting the last crunch to 7.5k? I did quite a bit and I'm currently sitting at 8.6k, no desire to redo the face and shape keys, especially seeing as how I use quite a few on the PC version and I want animations to stay in sync between the two versions...
tawdry fjord
If a char has a shirt you could remove everything under it and use a plane to close off under
under hair
long talon
That would save like 145 tris....
long talon
And what I'd save by putting a plane under the skirt: https://bocchi.is-pretty.cool/2LvHHku.png
long talon
hands are done
long talon
Hair in total is about 1k tris now. Already down to as low as I can get it before it looks absolutely terrible.
tawdry fjord
what is that a 4k face then?
long talon
I checked, 1.4k
tawdry fjord
really confused as to why the rest of the avatar is taking up so much then
could turn on wireframe and passthrough see if you missed anything
long talon
face and stuff is actually 2.4k TRIS
Either the VRCSDK is drunk or idk https://bocchi.is-pretty.cool/2VzGrxg.png
And that number makes no fucking sense anyway.... https://bocchi.is-pretty.cool/8FJZVoe.png
cyan spoke
Hidden objects around maybe?
long talon
I could understand if there were less tris in blender than polys counted in vrcsdk, cause some faces might be quads that get converted to triangles beforehand in unity, but thats not the case here.....
dry zealot
when you decimate you can check triangulate
long talon
how do tho?
See? you kinda explained that a while ago
I didnt understand a single living shit about it then
its even more incomprehensible now
tyt
like I said in quest-general, am going camping
long locust
Whats it take to make avatars
delicate basalt
depends on what you want
something like an anime avatar would take a large amount of work to port to quest, whether you're making one out of parts or creating it from scratch
long locust
A simple but cute anime catgirl
delicate basalt
that's an amount of work depending on how you tackle it
the main hurdle is retopology, if you're developing for quest
that's the actual difficult bit, everything else is just a matter of learning how to upload / edit avatars and just doing it
which takes a while but isnt really difficult as much as it is tedious and time consuming, until you learn how to do it
distant epoch
so perhaps obvious question: but so much of vrChat has "ready made assets" that people acquire, but how are these assets made?
the original meshes, not hacked or ripped existing avatars/etc. i'm going to spend thu-sun googling and youtubing, but casually, i mostly see people doing mods, not new stuff
jaunty spoke
Willing to pay $25 or more for a custom avatar on VRChat
Please DM if ur interested
viscid bloom
So I found a midna riding link, avatar, and a twilight Queen midna, but haven't been able to find a good imp midna. Anyone know of any?
reef kindle
@long talon if you're still around, you may want to try setting it to "keep quads" in the unity import. Your hair is the main issue, using decimation won't help, re-topology is your friend.
however, if the hair is symmetrical you might want to try "unsubdivide" and "planar decimation" modifier instead
it's since it's probably not gradient weight painted and doesn't have to move with the body mesh the hair could look identical as a bunch of large quads/faces
you can find this by looking here:
click "add modifier" "decimate" and try collapse, and triangulate, and keep symmetry on x, since the hair looks symmetrical.
that could get you a good 500-750 back
gilded estuary
I made a quest avatar, but Inventor made it so each color is it's own texture- so I have 13 textures, and "poor" preformance
sorry I meant 18
Which kinda sucks- if there was a way to combine those textures into one that would be great, but I have no idea how i would even go about doing that
(oops forgot a picture)
and either way I can't upload it because i'm a Visitor- why did I even make this?
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Youll have to export it as a fbx, not sure how inventor works but i assume it has tools for that - then use a material atlasser or you can unwrap it yourself if it doesnt maintain that stuff heres a tut for your specific case @gilded estuary https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DD84GSJiTVc
And you will be able to upload it once you hit a higher rank, id start with making a vrchat account
Cool character though!
gilded estuary
I have a VRC account, i just don't play often because I don't have a headset
Might ask a friend to upload a world with an avatar pedstal for it
velvet portal
Yeah i dont play often either. But i still love making worlds and avatars
gilded estuary
Yep
velvet portal
i just looked for avatars, play around and got mine in like 2 days or so
gilded estuary
...
Holy hell
I thing VRC is one of those things I have to have a VR headset to consistently enjoy
velvet portal
that IS true, but what i enjoy is or makes me wanna play more, is i upload avatars and worlds, and test it out, or just play some scary games with ppl(still freaks me out without headset) or just favorite worlds id like to go into when i get vr, and special dates lol
gilded estuary
hmm
oh oops
i accidently left Inventor on render for two hours
Looks pretty decent for a two hour render on a gaming PC
Imagine if messages on this discord server also helped you rank up- thatβs actually not a horrible idea
tame scaffold
how do you upload your avatar so it is occulus quest friendly?
delicate cipher
@tame scaffold
after that. you switch your Unity platform to Android and publish just like normal
thorny canopy
Better to create a 2nd project to have as an Android-only platform project
Else you'll have to recompile every time you switch back and forth
velvet portal
I dont have a problem with that
fringe oriole
What ways could I be able to make an existing texture set with a shader to work and not break with one of the mobile texture
long locust
Is it possible to take an existing pc avatar and modify it to work on quest
tawdry fjord
yes but some are a lot of work / things need to be removed
long locust
Certain mechanics and textures and shade need to be changed
jagged sequoia
and in all likelihood the polygon count needs to be massively reduced
velvet portal
yep
jagged sequoia
as I would Hazard to guess most avatars are between like 20,000 or 70000
velvet portal
even 70k? is it that serious lol
jagged sequoia
yes considering most folks use ripped MMD models they're going to try to decimate them the least amount they can
whereas you need to hit 7500 to appear on Oculus Quest
velvet portal
ahhh
jagged sequoia
which is why everyone is so grumbly grumbly about the polygon limit on Quest
velvet portal
well it was fun and everyone was loving it until they have that update about medium - poor - very poor option
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Thank God for that update π
hushed wedge
People grumble because it also counts disabled stuff
random badge
Well that part is questionable but what had to be done has to be done
It's not like people were ever paying attention to it anyway /s
rocky matrix
The public possum avatar is now free to download and do what you want with! I also worked on an online texture editor so you can easily customize the colors. https://gumroad.com/l/possum-avatar
dry zealot
deep pewter
how can i make avatars quest compatible?
molten saddle
How do I import avatars on blender?
molten saddle
I keep getting a file signature is invalid error
molten saddle
this is the error code im getting
velvet portal
@molten saddle whatre you trying to make?
@molten saddle you dont have CATS plugin installed thats why
molten saddle
No I do
I gives me the same error through cats plugin
Do I not have the right version of cats plugin installed
molten saddle
And I was trying to import an avatar and add a hat
velvet portal
Hmm...
Well, it would tell you if its updated or not, but i always import my mmd models from Cats itself
not from the M tab
but CATS tab
molten saddle
Ya I tried that but it kept giving me the same error
tardy scaffold
simple atlas
$mu
sacred matrix
oh wait, this issnt the waifu bot
buoyant ridge
Does anyone know where I can find a Splatoon avatar?
buoyant ridge
I couldnβt find any worlds that had it
velvet portal
What type of splatoon you want or you was hoping to find all of them? Lol
buoyant ridge
Any really
velvet portal
I mean i can probaly import one for you and you can just clone it from me , i usually find avatars on deviantart since its mmd downloads. And make it into quest compatiable then into vrchat
buoyant ridge
That would be helpful
velvet portal
Ok!
buoyant ridge
But Iβm going to be unavailable for a while so Iβm not gonna be able to access my quest or computer for a while
velvet portal
Thats alright. Ill just look at some splatoons, and stuff in abit :)
buoyant ridge
I can still do things on my phone though
velvet portal
Ok!
velvet portal
Trying to make an quest avtar for someone but in unity eyes are closed? but in blender its open
dry zealot
reset shape key
velvet portal
i did that, exported it, transfer into unity and still eyes closed xo @dry zealot
velvet portal
when u cant literally get to freaking 10k tris
velvet portal
sad we cant add audio source ot quest avatars
buoyant ridge
Can anyone help me make an avatar for the quest?
gusty storm
i working on this model i don't know how to move one shoe with out the other. do i have to link to a bone for it to move with the model?
sacred matrix
@gusty storm Try this. Go into edit mode > select one of the polygons from the shoe > hit Ctrl + L to select all polys connected to it > now move all of them to the left
Alternatively you can seperate the model by materials, selefct the entirety of the shoe in edit mode and move it
long talon
if both shoes are using the same mat, separate by materials wont do, in that case, you would want separate loose parts
velvet portal
I just fix them in pose mode
pastel storm
So I've been wondering what is the highest reasonable amount of polygons for a Quest avatar to have? Not the official numbers because I already know I can't drop avatars down to 5000 polygons yet. For example, is 40000 polygons fine, or will it lag people tons
velvet portal
5-10k. and i dont think so aslong it not big effects
pastel storm
Ok thanks!
jagged sequoia
the problem with having the avatars being higher polygons that would cut down the amount of people you can have in the room if they all had high-poly avatars as you wouldn't want to max out the GPU
velvet portal
but u cant see the pc players anyway
jagged sequoia
there's also technical reasons why you can't see PC users as their data is a PC format and the quest only knows how to speak Android
velvet portal
yes i know that lol
jagged sequoia
just bringing that up because not everyone is up and up on the particulars of cross platform app development
velvet portal
Oh ok!
pastel storm
Another question, what vrchat shader should I use to make my avatar look good?
velvet portal
vrchat > mobile > toonlit
pastel storm
Ok, will do!
pastel storm
So I have another question (I apologize for the amount I'm asking). I'm trying to figure out facial expressions, but I've been getting lost in the tutorials. The one tutorial I was following had you drag a hand animation (which you downloaded from a link) onto a duplicate of your avatar. In his tutorial, the duplicate snapped back to where the original avatar was, and the animation was applied. When I did it, my avatar didn't change or move at all. I don't know if this is a common problem but I figured I may aswell ask instead of struggling when there might be an answer here.
velvet portal
@pastel storm You need hand gestures
It may seem complicated at first, which I was stuck too, but after couple of tries Im a pro now at making facesss haha
pastel storm
Ok, I'll try that π thanks for the advice!
velvet portal
Np
pastel storm
Okay, so I have hand gestures now, but whenever i try to apply them to the model they don't work. Any ideas?
pastel storm
Oh wait--i finally figured it out nvm
velvet portal
Yaayyy
gray sapphire
Anyone got a Broccoli skin with arms eyes mouth and legs?
Or just a broccoli
Something like this
velvet portal
lmaoooooo
gray sapphire
lol
jagged sequoia
apparently there is a broccoli dude on sketchfab
velvet portal
its creeeppyy
jagged sequoia
which considering the webcomic they link seems good
velvet portal
extract it
gray sapphire
How do i add a descriptor scene?
velvet portal
add compoment on the right
gray sapphire
I cant upload it
gray sapphire
velvet portal
you have to add a compoment, then type in descriptor ant avatar descriptor should pop up
gray sapphire
14617
delicate cipher
you should reduce your polygons
gray sapphire
idk how
gray sapphire
where is blender?
velvet portal
but then again, u can still upload, people have still uploaded poor avatars before.
and still works but
u gotta download it
velvet portal
Haha aweee thankies π€£
gray sapphire
:))
velvet portal
i dont have vr just yet but i do enjoy making avatars for my future quest
gray sapphire
I dont have vr either
Im just playing vrchat bcs of the weird people on ther
there*
velvet portal
haha yep that true
velvet portal
ffs is atlas broken or just my avatars have bad luckkkk dowieoiwoefwji
gray sapphire
Dowieoi.... what? xD
velvet portal
Idk why im having bad luck with uploading oof
pastel storm
I finally succeeded at making a cross platform avatar with facial expressions after five days and one all nighter. I'm feeling accomplished, though there are things I need to work on before I make a good avatar (like lowering the poly count π₯)
velvet portal
@pastel storm thats still so good!!
velvet portal
haha i love ramennn
velvet portal
haha youre silly
pastel storm
I imported a model from blender to unity, but it says it's not in t pose (though it looks like it is, so I'm assuming the bones are messed up) and it has a red arrow pointing to the spine :{
velvet portal
Yes I have a trouble figuring out that too sometimes and I give up in the end
wide monolith
How do I get my avatars approved for Quest?
pastel storm
I really like the base I used, but I'm about to give up anyways. It's so confusing and I have no clue how to deal with it. Maybe I'll figure it out someday
dry zealot
See you later
errant dirge
You could post screenshots
wide monolith
I know the standards I have to meet, how do I get the Quest β approved symbol.
remote ridge
l
woven rune
What's the max allowed again? 5000?
velvet portal
yes or 7.5-10k
woven rune
5k is advised, 10k is the limit?
velvet portal
10k is if you wanna go higher.
But you can go higher.. Just you'd be very poor, and people would have to change their settings to very poor to see you.
But hey, at least you can wear whatever avatar you want on quest kind of
woven rune
So the SDK isn't going to reject my quest avatar upload if its 10k?
velvet portal
no its not
it iwll still let you build @woven rune
My highest polys ive uploaded are at most 15k-20k and still leets me publish quest and pc
woven rune
But that's in the Very Poor range that is blocked by default for Quest
velvet portal
people can still see it if they change settings to very poor
pastel storm
Can someone port or create a quest accessible ferret avatar?
Would mean a lot to a homie
dry zealot
Theres already some
pastel storm
So, I'm totally new to avatar making, and I'm a bit lost. I've figured out how to make an mmd model into an avatar, and how to "make" an mmd model by putting together clothes, bases, etc., but now I don't know what I should be going for next. Should I continue using mmd models or is there a different/better method I am missing (beside making avatars from scratch, since that is WAAAAAY more advanced than anything I can do)
random badge
Kitbashing and scratch are really the only methods
pastel storm
Ok, good to know. I'll keep working on improving my kitbashing (btw I had to look that up π π) skills until I master that, then I'll start looking into making avatars from scratch. Thanks for the info!
pastel storm
I feel like I'm pully my hair out here because I keep getting close to 10k, I took someone's advice made sure no hidden meshes and deleted tris one by one (still not good at combining tris). Is there anything else other than deleting pieces which I have done or are some avatars just like that? I'm a noob still.
Maybe I should start learning how to do shape keys?
velvet portal
I have avatars thats 14-20k and ppl can still see me and i can still upload
@pastel storm
pastel storm
@velvet portal Really? I will try it now and see because I really wish they would at least make it a 15k poly limit π©.
random badge
Dissolving edges will be your friend with reducing polycount
pastel storm
I posted a 39999 polygon avatar and quest players could see it as long as they manually show it (which is pretty typical). I wouldn't advise it, since I did it just to see how high of a poly count the quest can see
**I wouldn't advise that you post a 39999 poly avatar. I think a 15k avatar would be fine
random badge
5k avatar is preferred π
velvet portal
15-20k is fine
long talon
5-7.5k, 7.5-10k if you really cant fit more
most active users change their setting from medium to poor
under 5k gets you a special blue performance badge above excellent.
random badge
you got me excited
velvet portal
well either way i still will do 15k-20k
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5k best k
velvet portal
sitll no problems with my 15-20k
random badge
Doesn't matter.
There are no problems with my car, doesn't mean it isn't polluting and killing the planet π
velvet portal
Doesn't mean ya gotta be so salty or act like you know everything buddy
viscid bloom
Well multiple sources say the amount that works. Just because you see no problems at higher polygons, doesn't mean it isn't causing issue. They were not really being rude, just an analogy comparing. Plus, it's not knowing everything. It's relaying what the developers of the game, have said.
velvet portal
Yeah I know, but I just upload what works fine for me
errant dirge
They really should be as low poly as possible. Quest gpu takes a much larger hit from polygons than pc gpus do
dry zealot
I keep 7.5 to my upload but still. 10 would save time and I would have more option
cedar roost
Hey
pastel storm
I'm just trying to get in the 15k-25k range and have a nice looking avatar tbh. Then again, that's bc I suck at reducing polygons and I don't really care if people have to unblock my avatar (although I wish there was an option to automatically unblock poor performance avatars because I unblock them anyways)
random badge
So watch some tutorials to reduce polycount it's very easy I promise you
velvet portal
@pastel storm Yes it is easy! Its frustating but its easy and fun honestly. Just dont over do it or ypur avatar will look all cut up and holes lol
karmic sorrel
I just cut my avatar to 18k
chrome girder
You only have to cut down the Quest version, too. Nothing says you have to have parity between the two. As long as the armature is the same it should be fine IIRC.
zealous birch
Is there a shader for Quest Avatar that does support Alpha Cutout?
or Alpha Blending?
long talon
Mobile GPUs suffer a lot with transparency, so nope. You can use the alpha blended particle shader for simple meshes on a second material and it shouldn't be that bad.
pastel storm
Oh believe me, I'm watching tutorials π there's just a lot of stuff I want to troubleshoot before I start going into detail with cutting down my polygons. I'd find it a waste to spend tons of time lowering polygons on a broken/bad looking avatar
dry zealot
No transparent or cutout so I end up cutting more the mesh to match the texture
dry zealot
this add poly. but π whatever
delicate cipher
Timo (the guy who i commissioned to do a proper optimzation (retopology) for VRChat Quest (without decimation) and to include basic visemes) wants to know if Oculus Quest supports gesture animations (he's trying to see if he can add some expressions i can control)
velvet portal
Yes it is
delicate cipher
alright, thanks
pallid jay
velvet portal
some uhm... big aass boobs
velvet portal
lmaoooo π€£
dawn aspen
pastel storm
Im looking too get a couple custom avatars for vrchat
subtle anchor
I'm trying to make my avatar Quest compatible, but I cant figure out how to make the glass transparent on it, does anyone know the best way to make a glass material?
pastel storm
Why can I show a very poor avatar but not an excellent one? π€
velvet portal
i honestly dont know-
dry zealot
use particle shader
mild basin
so what's the issue with glass ?
jagged sequoia
that involves transparency which is a bit of a no go on the quest
subtle anchor
okay, ill looked into that, looks okay for now, just enough for people to see me, thanks
autumn bone
( βΉβ½βΉ )π
hollow pecan
I'm trying to learn to make my own avatars, but all the files I download and videos I've seen seen out of date
velvet portal
@hollow pecan you need unity and blender
pastel storm
Could I possibly make an invisible avatar with just audio or no?
errant dirge
On quest? No
long talon
If you mean voice audio, kinda, but the nametag will stay visible
Literally create an empty unity gameobject and add an avatar descriptor to it and set view height. Also has the merit of being as optimized as it gets.
pastel storm
Not voice audio just audio from a file
errant dirge
@pastel storm according to vrchat docs Audio sources are disabled completely on avatars in VRChat Quest.
pastel storm
Rip
half umbra
I tried straying away from the roblox base im sorry ok-
Just gotta get It uploaded once I get verified.
And then once I get an Oculus Qeust.
long talon
That's all atlased and optimized? AND COMES FROM ROBLOX? gosh dang if thats the case. cool beans.
upper magnet
hi
last heart
can someone show me how to add a animation to a avatar on unity ? thank you !
pastel storm
So I'm back again with a another super noob question so I just made a avatar using a TDA base, now I've did this before and it worked okay I guess but this build does have a large number of tris (So maybe if I decimate it it would be fine? I just want to test the avatar in vrchat before I start blowing up anything again π©π.). Its telling me my assets are too large to load into vrchat of course its 10mb for the quest limits (80mb on my bulid), I did compression my textures but that only reduced it to 75mb lol. I'm not very bright to figure out how to fix this atm π.
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Atlassing will help
pastel storm
I did atlassing in blender but its still saying its too big π
brazen hearth
Won't reducing texture size in Unity make the file smaller?
cunning imp
To reduce file size you should manually atlas (instead of auto atlas), delete shapekeys you won't use, reduce poly limit, and crunch your textures or limit their max size
old vine
Π΅ΡΡΡ ΠΊΡΠΎ Π² Π·Π°Π³ΡΡΠ·ΠΊΠ΅ Π°Π²Π°ΡΠ°ΡΠΎΠ² ΡΠ°ΡΡΡΠΈΠΉ
Π° ΡΠΎ Ρ Π°Π²Π°ΡΠ°Ρ Π²ΡΠ³ΡΡΠΆΠ°Ρ Π° ΠΎΠ½ Π² ΠΈΠ³ΡΠ΅ Π½Π΅ ΠΏΠΎΡΠ²Π»ΡΠ΅ΡΡΡ
delicate basalt
ΠΏΡΠΎΡΡΠΈ ΠΌΠ΅Π½Ρ Π·Π° Π³ΡΠ³Π» ΠΏΠ΅ΡΠ΅Π²ΠΎΠ΄ΡΠΈΠΊ, Π½ΠΎ Ρ Π½Π΅ ΡΠ²Π΅ΡΠ΅Π½, Π² ΡΠ΅ΠΌ ΡΠ²ΠΎΡ ΠΏΡΠΎΠ±Π»Π΅ΠΌΠ°. Π²Π°Ρ Π°Π²Π°ΡΠ°Ρ Π½Π΅ ΠΏΠΎΡΠ²Π»ΡΠ΅ΡΡΡ Π² ΠΈΠ³ΡΠ΅, ΠΏΠΎΡΠΎΠΌΡ ΡΡΠΎ ...? (forgive me for google translate, but i'm not sure what your issue is. your avatar is not appearing in-game because...?)
pastel storm
Finding good bases to make avatars is so difficultttttt γ½(ΰ² _ΰ² )γ
errant dirge
Yeah, the default TDa head already is like 5k polys
pastel storm
@cunning imp yeah I did the cruch texture but that did work, the base I used did have much textures and was very simple turns out it was just the hair that was almost I think 30 to 35k manage to up load and turned out messed up because of the weight painting π so I did a new base today and see if it works correctly hopefully.
@pastel storm I agree π©
pastel storm
So, do any of you know good places to look for clothes and accessories for avatars besides deviantart? Bc that's been the only place I could find stuff and it's kind of difficult to find quality items on there
shy moat
gilded surge
delicate basalt
you're better off commissioning avatars off of vrctraders in #community-servers-old rather than here, but be prepared to pay because nobody is going to do work for free. @shy moat
ionic kiln
Are there any Senko avatars?
pastel storm
Is there any way to make a vrchat avatar only useable by one person that isnt you? I want to make an avatar that a person can have in their "made" avatars (so it doesn't take up a slot in favorite), but they don't have a computer to run unity and I don't want to use their account information bc that just seems like I'm trying to scam them. Any ideas?
long talon
ask them to change their password before you borrow their acc
if you don't know their email password, you can't change their pass again
gilded surge
@hushed wedge some PC avatars can be viewed through a setting in the VrChat menu, and the video just shows how to do it and explains when it's doable.
hushed wedge
@ShortStuff#6980 then it's not a PC avatar
It's a Quest avatar that's automatically being hidden
Probably due to being over the poly limit
pastel storm
Thanks that's a great idea! @long talon
random badge
Thats against ToS @pastel storm @long talon
random badge
Im not saying you should do it, but if you do, dont discuss it here.
pastel storm
Ok
I don't really want to do it that way anyway just because of how scam like it still feels
random badge
They can set up 2FA to make it safer
pastel storm
I'll just have to find a better way
random badge
Another method is to put the avatar in a world, then have them favorite the world
pastel storm
Oooh that's also a really good idea
random badge
since you have 120 world favorite slots opposed to 16 avatar slots
Or they could set it to their home world
which takes up no slots, and has the benefit of being a small world that loads quickly for them
They could also favorite it, and keep it in the favorite slot untill they HAVE to replace it, to make that method less of a hastle, only going back to the world when need be.
pastel storm
That's a wonderful idea, tysm!
modern creek
Does anyone know of or have a lucario avatar I can use. Thanks
random badge
Just search for pokemon worlds in game there are a few
mellow plank
@modern creek I have one in my world.
half umbra
Yeeting my OG concept of Batb0y.
mellow plank
Uh.
mellow plank
lol no. one stuck in labs but eh.
modern creek
So whatβs the name
mellow plank
i dm'ed
modern creek
Is it caps sensitive
pastel storm
Question, anywhere I can find an .X file importer for blender that works or even a program that I can maybe import the .X file then maybe export it into an FBX file so I can at least put it into blender? Trying to put an accessory into blender but it's in an .X file. T_T I tried the add on for it but I relized that its only for exporting files into .X files.
errant dirge
Pmx editor, then save as pmx
errant dirge
Canβt read that, use snipping tool
wraith ocean
errant dirge
What unity version are you using?
wraith ocean
2017.4.25
errant dirge
I think the skinned meshes may be the culprit. Also re unity , even if you do get it to upload it wonβt be seen in game. You need .28
errant dirge
does the avatar have a ton of props?
the avatar just isn't well optimized even by pc standards, hopefully its something relatively easy to fix.
pastel storm
@errant dirge if you can send me the correct download it would be much appreciated!
errant dirge
Iβm on my phone so I literally cannot because of how unityβs website works. Iβm assuming unity download. VRChat.com literally has the correct unity version linked via downloads. 2017.4.25
pastel storm
@errant dirge No I'm taking about the pmx editor, I tried to look for an clear video of how to install it but found nothing, I don't know if you download from learn mmd website if that is the correct pmx editor you're talking about?
errant dirge
I downloaded a English translation from here https://www.deviantart.com/eoscustom3d/art/English-Pmx-Editor-v1-1-542100208
pastel storm
@errant dirge thank you! I'll try it out π
pastel storm
Okay some I'm having some viseme troubles T_T, so in the rig I noticed that the left eye was in the jawline even when I delete it out it shows as eye movements instead of mouth movements. Anyway to fix that?
visual burrow
Anyone willing to make a character for me, quest compatible
verbal heart
Does anyone know of any worlds where I can find a quest compatible wolfboy avatar?
pastel storm
hello!
foggy garnet
hi!
hardy cairn
Anyone know what might be causing a portion of my avatar to turn black when using vrchat standard lite and toon lit? Everything is fine using the standard Unity shader; it only occurs with VRChat standard lite and VRChat toon lit.
random badge
have you tried in other worlds.
hardy cairn
Haven't even uploaded it, this is occurring in Unity and has nothing to do with worlds.
random badge
just getting the simple stuff out the way first
long talon
It's very possible the avatar looks black in Unity but will work just fine ingame
The quest shaders are kinda wonky on PC
pastel storm
do i need to physically use the vrchat app in vr for 24 hours or be here for 24 hours or what before i can utilize unity to create/upload avaatars
long talon
@pastel storm Becoming verified by the trust system is based on reaching a not time based trust score, which's exact algorithm is unknown to prevent exploitation.
You presumably need to play the game in a normal manner with your VRChat account, walking around, meeting people and also making some friends. Idling won't help.
According to many responses in this discord, a rough estimate would be 20-40 hours, but big exceptions are possible.
Make sure you are not using a steam or oculus account because those can not be verified and continue playing the game until you get a notification or e-mail.
http://help.vrchat.com/kb/article/27-why-cant-i-upload-avatars-or-worlds-yet
abstract ether
Can confirm, took ~17h to be able to upload with normal playing.
ripe crag
ΠΏΡΠΈΠ²
spice obsidian
(only VR user say they can see two avatar ,but PC user say that they only see one ,why ???
i don't think is shaders
random badge
Rokk is right on both fronts
void compass
Will people rig my avatars here?
cunning imp
No one's going to rig your stuff for free, either look up a tutorial on rigging or use Mixamo
void compass
Ok thanks
wild yacht
ay i have the "most" important question on vr chat
(mostly stupid) to those people who play on computer do you go to worlds and get skins?
vale monolith
Yes
pastel storm
What's the poly and material limit for quest models? Ive never made 1
@vale monolith @wild yacht @void compass
@hushed wedge
??
void compass
Not on quest, I thought this was under questions. Sorry.
wild yacht
oh thanks!
random badge
@wild yacht some of us make our own.
@pastel storm poly limit(s) are 5000 for excellent anything above is good, then 7500, anything above is medium avatars are auto hidden above 10,000 but I believe can be unhidden
random badge
Oh hmm I don't quite know, I think it's 2 or 3 as a soft cap
Basically stick to as little as possible
1 mat is appreciated π
pastel storm
Question how do you remove a audiosource from an premade model? I keep deleting the audio or the components also anything that looks audio wise but the build still says its on it.
Nvm just found it, also has anyone maybe found a way to you pc shaders or is that not a thing yet? Kinda getting tired of have skin that turns super white lol.
@hushed wedge I know you can use them, I'm sayong someone told me it away around then for me it wasn't really surprising taxing on me until you use some really crazy color
pastel storm
@long talon you on?
when people tell me not to use a steam account for vrchat, does that mean no using steam to launch it? How else would I launch it?
vagrant lark
You can launch it with steam but you should have an account on vrchat.com that you can also use to log into the game.
empty zephyr
Does anyone know where I can find some quest compatible Clone Trooper Avatars?
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pastel storm
@hushed wedge Typeo I know you CAN'T use them, I was saying I know it was some way to get it around it.
nimble ingot
There is no way to get around it as it is enforced client side. Even if the shader was uploaded with the avatar, the client would swap it out on the fly for an approved shader. You cannot have custom shaders on avatars on Oculus Quest.
small vortex
There's nothing that hurts more than decimating a model to 13k polys and being physically incapable of going lower
Its all in the shape keys.
Damn faces being all high poly
pastel storm
can someone please help
i dont know nything about this error. ive never done models before and im frustrated and i need to be walked through with this
modern pumice
@pastel storm you have to assign the bones for the model if using humanoid
wild yacht
who here plays vr chat on a vr headset?
pastel storm
@nimble ingot nvm I found a person that explained it to me how to and will show me.
sly pewter
someone please help why i cant build my avatar
nimble heron
could be your rank in game maybe? @sly pewter
sly pewter
My rank in game?
nimble heron
yah like Visitor, New user, user, known user, and trusted
sly pewter
New user
nimble heron
hmm. You should be able to then.
sly pewter
it is about World Creator status?
nimble heron
i dont think so. You should be able to upload an avatar at New user i believe think its the same for worlds
sly pewter
its not work
nimble heron
did you hit the more info tab to see if there is any info in it that might help?
because as far as i know. You should be able to upload avatars once you get the New user rank
long talon
did you try logging out and logging back in on the SDK?
long talon
I never had to deal with this stuff, I was grandfathered in as an orangeboi when ranks were introduced... But it really is supposed to be New User.... blueboi rank...
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Unless they are wrong about what rank they are.
spice obsidian
@hushed wedge thanks
buoyant ridge
Hello everyone! Sorry to ask again, but does anyone think they can help me get an avatar on the quest?
long locust
LONG SHOT but is anyone willing to make me an avatar for free, im new to vrchat and im not to fimiliar with the avatar creation and stuff
foggy garnet
@buoyant ridge I haven't played too much recently, but there should be avatar worlds marked as quest-compatible.
They'll have a green circle next to the world name.
@long locust the VRC traders discord server has a channel for free avatar commissions, you could post a request there.
long locust
It wont let me verify my phone
foggy garnet
Oh, dang, sorry. what kind of avatar were you looking for?
foggy garnet
I don't really have much experience with MMDs / anime models, sorry :<
that cat's cute as heck though
foggy garnet
yeah, good luck with it!
buoyant ridge
Anyone know where I can get an inkling avatar on the quest? I looked everywhere and canβt find it
long locust
Im sad now
modern creek
@buoyant ridge look for the places that arenβt as popular and have the correct tags or wait for someone to give you a world. I have seen people with inkling avatars on quest so you should be able to find one somewhere
buoyant ridge
Thanks
modern creek
Np
cedar prawn
I seek an avatar with tentalces! or a mouse. lol
VRC Traders sounds like a magical place, is that on this server or different?
delicate basalt
different server #community-servers-old
cedar prawn
ah! ty! I have so many questions developed in the past 3 hours lol. I used to use SL a lot, I wish making vrchat avatars was as similar as that was
cedar prawn
dang those prices are no joke xD I need to brush up on my modding skills
cunning imp
Feels better to make it yourself as well. Just depends on what you have more of: time or money
cedar prawn
Oh, I definitely have time in the mornings. I'm not very good at 3d-modeling. I'm better at scraping things together. Browsing around it seems like I should be able to do that from public provided object models like hair and equipment. If I have the right program, is it possible to throw stuff together and just add, i guess joint points to it?
foggy garnet
I think some models come pre-rigged, which is nice. It wouldn't hurt to brush up on rigging in general, though
cunning imp
Kitbashing is where most people start and where most people stay for vrchat. You should use blender and watch a tutorial like Tupper's megatutorial. There's a good amount of vrchat specific tutorials but don't be afraid to look up basic blender stuff
If you do use blender you may want to start on 2.79 (2.8 just came out) as none of the tutorials out rn are using 2.8
long talon
but if you wanna get proficient at blender itself
its better to start on 2.8 right away
all you gotta remember is, CATS is on the right
and then blender 2.8 is easy
cunning imp
Yeah there's going to be a lot of UI inconsistencies but the process should be the same
cedar prawn
Interesting, I've tampered with blender a couple of failed times before, lol. I'll give it another shot
random badge
2.8 is a different beast it actually looks modern
cunning imp
I was going to update but I really don't see the point besides having to relearn all the changed hotkeys and losing my personalized settings
random badge
It's got tons if quality if life changes
Might as well hop on it now before you are severely out of date just because you think it's convenient now
cedar prawn
Since Trip's asleep, know anything about a Virtual Desktop sideloading issues if i dont open original VD first? And I think the last blendr i used was about 2 years ago lol
random badge
Yea well a new version released yesterday so you timed this well
It's a complete overhaul of the ui
cunning imp
Is there any way to transfer plugins or personalized settings? Or am I gonna have to take a couple hours
random badge
I am not sure, but I would imagine so
I was talking about blender
I can't help you with sideloading sorry.
cedar prawn
np
cunning imp
I just need to check if one of my plugins works for 2.8 because if it doesn't then it's just not going to be worth swapping over and having two blender versions open all the time
eternal obsidian
versed owl
hey so i have this weird glitch where if i upload an avatar it comes out invisible but if a friend uploads the same avatar from my unity package it will work, does anyone know why that might be?
random badge
Are you using the correct unity version, and the correct SDK version?
versed owl
Unity 2017.4.28f1
VRCSDK-2019.07.31.13.58_Public
My SDK is a little weird since whenever I click check for updates it says I have one, but then when I try to download it its the same one I had before, but I download and install it anyways and when i check for updates it still picks up saying there is an update, but my friend said his does that too
@random badge
random badge
Try entirely reinstalling the sdk
errant raven
hi! I hope this is the right place to ask this
I recently got back to VRChat but I noticed my favourite avatar is gone even though it's in the default hub world
I was wondering if it has anything to do with oculus quest since the name ends in "quest"
cunning imp
How is it gone if it's right there?
vapid sand
sooo i finnaly found this mod after 5 days hope you enjoy
rigid geyser
yo
errant raven
When I click on it, it's just loading forever
Or if I select it from favourites it gives me an error
cunning imp
I'm not sure, could just be server issues. I've swapped into it at some point so it's not corrupted IIRC
haughty topaz
If anyone can make a Phoenix Wright avatar world I will be so happy
That is the dream
dim gate
It's actually easy to to do @haughty topaz
7497 polys and it looks ok
Just bug me about it, I have so many worlds that I cannot squeeze in an avatar world yet to upload.
versed owl
what should i try after reinstalling it?
cedar prawn
That guy is going to OBJECTION! to so many conversations. lol
haughty topaz
@dim gate if you could find a way to make the world please do I would love it also, damn thatβs good
empty zephyr
Hey all, I believe I have encountered a bug?
So Iβm using the oculus quest, but for some reason two avatars that Iβm using show up as errors to most of the players I encounter
Those two avatars are the butter avatar and a quest compatible Stormtrooper Avatar
The butter avatar is the most confusing one though
And they also show up on my screen, but not otherβs
Any ideas for fixes?
long talon
I'm on PC and have had issues with others seeing some of my known working avatars as the error bot, and myself seeing both PC and Quest users as error bots while other users in the room see them just fine.
I think the issue is with VRChat itself and will get fixed.
full sphinx
what software should I use for making quest avatars on Mac?
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Unity, same as pc
full sphinx
the vrchat SDK download does nothing on unity though
it just opens unity and nothing changes
random badge
Im actually not sure if the sdk works on mac
wraith aspen
hi
random badge
Yes
wild yacht
i wonder why laurenzside doesn't play vr chat anymore O<O
gilded estuary
Ported Adam from the βAdamβ unity tech demo to PC and Quest. PC on right, Quest on very left. Middle is the lowest definition version. https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/596920422474448910/607418050601418764/Screenshot_819.png
*Quest version has 1400 polys
haughty topaz
Pepsiman
gilded estuary
Thanks for ruining my avatar, Pepsiman!
haughty topaz
All in a days work @gilded estuary
We need a Phoenix Wright Quest Avatar and a Pepsiman one
shadow olive
Hey guys! Making another avatar for quest. This time i got my shit together and mostly everything is good, im just having a small issue with the materials
im not sure how to combine 2 to make it so his eyes dont bug out
like this
is there an easy way to fix this? I think it happened when i clicked optimize in blender. Thanks!
reef monolith
i had a error with the quest avatar 2a-7s (the one with white hair and light pink eyes). the other quest avatars loaded so it might just be a temporary probelm
long talon
it's not temporary, unless the original uploader checks their email and goes "OH SHIT"
vagrant escarp
@shadow olive check if that model has 2 uv maps in blender, if not - create another material in blender for the eyes (if you don't have it already), select eye vertices and in edit mode when you select eye material you should be able to Apply(button) this vertices to eye material
wanton cipher
When I apply the VRChat/Mobile/Toon Lit to my model most of it is pitch black. Does anyone know how to fix it?
It looks normal with the standard shader
pastel storm
So I've been seeing quest avatars with moveable tails, I know you can animate wings but does anyone have any good youtube videos on it they could point me to? π
wanton cipher
Make an animation then put an animator on the body mesh
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@wanton cipher In unity or in game
wanton cipher
In unity
random badge
Are there any lights in the scene
random badge
Toon lit is a bit temperamental, have you tested it in game?
wanton cipher
No I haven't
random badge
Do that
wanton cipher
It is still black in game
random badge
Which map are you testing in
random badge
Try a different mobile shader, not sure what the issue could be.. perhaps the faces are inverted?
wanton cipher
I tried flipping the faces and recalculating
pastel storm
@wanton cipher thanks π
shadow olive
Ik pyra gets messed up in unity for some reason, mythra has the same issue
Same thing happens in beat saber
shadow olive
@vagrant escarp i have no clue how to check uv maps, ow what they are. I have applied the materials to him in blender, so i've atleast gotten that far.
shadow olive
nvm fixed everything
shadow olive
small question though, since my avatar is a big lad, how do i add a chair to his hand so i can pick people up?
or rather have people jump into my hand?
dry zealot
put the chair prefab and delete what they say
shadow olive
Cool, thanks!
shadow olive
back again
is it possible to use a different model for quest than on pc?
i made a low poly version of it, but it's trying to make it it's own upload instead of being the quest version of an already existing avatar.
low poly iron giant aint the prettiest
but hes smooth
empty zephyr
Can yβall help me
long talon
@shadow olive you put in the blueprint ID inside the pipeline manager?
shadow olive
The what in the what now?
long talon
at the top of the unity window, go to vrchat, then manage uploaded content, get your avatar and click the copy avatar id button
then you can select your quest avatar in the scene or the hierarchy, and in the inspector on the right, either below or above the avatar descriptor, there's a pipeline manager, if its rolled up, expand it, under blueprint ID, remove the current one and paste in the one you copied from the other window.
now you can upload for both platforms under the same ID
mild basin
2017.4.28f1 LTS
pastel storm
thanks
distant epoch
well, with this last vrchat update, i guess we learned a valuable lesson in fragility
gilded surge
Someone please make a Quest compatible All Might avatar
shadow olive
it already exists, no clue where to find it though
pastel storm
So, I have an issue. I don't know how to make it so the bottom of the shirt move with the legs so it doesn't clip through. Any tutorials that'd help or things I can look up to help me fix the problem?
proven monolith
You'd have to weight the shirt to the legs
pastel storm
Ok, thanks! I'll watch some tutorials on weighting
pastel storm
So, I know how I need to weight paint my model, but I can't figure out how to apply it? If that makes any sense
Or more so link it to a specific bone
pastel storm
Figured it out, never mind!
gilded surge
If anyone ever finds where to get an All Might avatar on Quest, Pleasee let me know
haughty topaz
Same and also a Phoenix Wright one too
shadow olive
my avatar has a 2d mouth texture, when i animate it there's just nothingness behind it
is there a way to add a little mouth model behind there?
?
i wanna just add a flat pink plane behind there but im not sure how to do it in blender
just some way of opening the mouth without it just being void in there
?
I'm modeling an avatar
when she opens her mouth, there's nothing behind it
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so make it so there is
abstract ether
Hm. You could try selecting the vertices around edges of mouth and then extruding to create new connected vertices to use to cover the inside of mouth.
shadow olive
That's what I've been attempting with a loose part of her hair on the inside of her head, doesn't really look quite right
abstract ether
If it is the color that is wrong, you need to change the texture of those faces in uv mode which will be more work unfortunatelly
Oh right you probably meant the shape but you'll need to have the right color anyways.
shadow olive
Is there an easy way to change the color of part of the texture without having to open it in paint or something @abstract ether?
And @delicate zodiac i mean I've made a few
Isn't too different from making regular avatars, just more strict
delicate zodiac
ok
jagged sequoia
but you would need separate modeling software to do the optimizations as Unity doesn't include modeling tools sufficient for making avatars
abstract ether
@shadow olive Well blender has painting tools. You can split view in blender by dragging a triangle looking icon made of lines in one of the corners of the 3d mode view. You should now switch the second 3d view to uv from left bottom of the view. If you have uv editor opened you can switch it from uv's view mode to paint mode. But it's probably not enough and I can't really stay longer right now.
woeful depot
i cant change the shaders for some reason does anyone have any solutions?
shadow olive
@abstract ether thanks! I'm at work, I'll try when I get home
@woeful depot try dragging the texture on him, it'll create a new material you can edit.
woeful depot
i think its already conmnected to the model cause i have no other materials
shadow olive
Aren't you gonna apply a texture?
woeful depot
@shadow olive i dont even know how to do that
vernal girder
Anyone know anywhere where I can find Quest my hero academia avatars?
gilded estuary
@woeful depot GIVE ME THAT AVATAR. NOW.
Jk... but if you get it working share it with me plz
shadow olive
Wait why does that keep happening
@vernal girder
Search
"hero"
On
Can I not say the vrc site?
@woeful depot do you have a texture for it
vernal girder
@shadow olive the vrc site? also thanks π
woeful depot
@shadow olive i do have the material but blender dosent want to work with me
shadow olive
oh, you have to give it finger bones
woeful depot
thats it?
woeful depot
ive put the new version through mixamo
shadow olive
or make it so the fingers are seperated enough so mixamo picks up on them
woeful depot
and it gave it fingers
shadow olive
you're positive?
like when you look at the bones in unity you see the finger bones for each one?
woeful depot
yeah saw them in blender but it onlyngave it a finger and a thumb
shadow olive
you need to seperate the fingers a bit more so mixamo knows theyre fingers
i ran into the same issue with my model
it needs to have a separate thumb, index, and middle finger
woeful depot
so thats what that message is
but the model dosent really have seperate fingers
its all gloved
shadow olive
i dont know how to make dummy fingers, but look into it
you can just add like 2 bones wherever and make them the middle finger
woeful depot
ok thanks alot!
woeful depot
could we meet in a room?
woeful depot
you might be able to look up my username and find my models there?
gilded estuary
Is it public?
woeful depot
yes
gilded estuary
Let me see
Ok so apparently I canβt do that on my phone
Iβll check tomarrow though
If that doesnβt work Iβll just make one myself
vernal girder
Does anybody know by chance where I can find a Quest compatible Mina Ashido from my hero academia avatar ?
twin lichen
hii! π
does anyone know where i can find someone that can create custom vr chat avatars?
twin lichen
Im making a reference sheet but i cant decide which color i want for her hoodie, what do you guys think?
(her eyes arent colored yet)
grey would be the pretty standart basic hoodie color, so itd fit and its nice and simple but maybe a bit boring, pink fits with her eye and wing color but it may be a bit much, blue looks really cute but doesnt really fit the character or have anything to do with her, and brown looks really cute warm and comfortable, but idk
here it is with her alt. bandana outfit
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@twin lichen Are you looking for comissions? you can go in #community-servers-old and make a listing there! Your character looks cool as heck btw :)
twin lichen
thank you ^^ i will take a looh
look*
here it is pretty much finished, i can still change the colors though
wait what do you mean by make a listing?
cunning imp
To elaborate on what blue was saying, go to #community-servers-old and then join vrctraders
Vrctraders is where a bunch of commission artists are but I've never joined so I can't guide any further
twin lichen
ah ok thank you!!
twin lichen
ooooffff i have to verify my phone :/
ohh wait no im stupid
thats just for when i wanna do commissions
if i wanna commission someone i just pm
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post in #avatar-comissions
opaque dew
Nice
calm rover
If someone is willing to help with getting an avatar pm me I donβt have a pc. Would highly appreciate the help!!!
slim raven
looking for someone make not a full body avatar to a full body avatar
woeful depot
@slim raven what are you having trouble with?
foggy garnet
@twin lichen I'm kinda late, but the pink colour scheme looks really neat.
haughty topaz
Anyone know where I can find a Phoenix Wright avatar or All Might one for quest
shadow olive
@haughty topaz check that vrc site
also, does anybody have any clues as to how to do gravity on an avatar?
im trying to make the hair have gravity, but it just has it's own bones
how do i make those like... have gravity?
jagged sequoia
not possible on the Oculus Quest as Dynamic bones are not allowed
as they're basically framerate murder and mobile Hardware doesn't have the frames to spare
shadow olive
then how should i fix the hair from clipping
random badge
weight painting
shadow olive
i still dont know what weight painting is
how would i do it?
also should i get rid of those extra bones then?
shadow olive
also anyone know if there is an invisible shader on vrchat quest?
twin lichen
idk anything about modeling but can't you remove the bones and set it to not move?
random badge
No don't do that
shadow olive
Is there no way to just have the hair bone always be down?
cunning imp
You could try parenting the hair bones to the chest so it stays down, you'll have some bad stretching around the neck even with some good weight painting though
No way to have the bones do anything special as none of the methods are allowed on quest
dry zealot
I always parent the hair to the spine. And weight paint front hair to the chest. I still let some influence to the head so the hair move a little bit across the surface
shadow olive
cool, thanks
also
is there any way to do transparency on quest?
now im makign a 2d avatar and it's a cube now
jagged sequoia
no pretty much no transparency so you'll need to cut out the shape of the 2D Avatar with the knife tool
shadow olive
in blender?
reef kindle
yep, draw calls
double sided normals are bad news bears too
that's why I petitioned hotox to make backface culling the default in cats blender plugin
errant dirge
If itβs low res sprite try making it in magica voxel. You can drag and drop png images and export as obj files
jagged sequoia
if it's not a retro Sprite Cuts with the knife tool like you're cutting it out of scissors
shadow olive
@jagged sequoia i pur bagingi on a plane and perfectly selected her with the knife tool
now what, im scared to lose this it took 10 minutes
static meteor
cant you save it?
shadow olive
well too late for that
i just dont know what i do, delete vertices, dissolve loops, like idk
i just put bagingi on the plane shape, i just need the plane cut into a perfect bagingi
jagged sequoia
delete faces on the transparent part and also hit the save button before you do anything
shadow olive
so if i have bagingi selected
that means i'll delete her if i hit delete
can i like inverse that?
also deleting faces just deleted everything
it's a plane
it has 1 face
in fact, every option deletes the entire thing
jagged sequoia
then I guess you would just delete the edges deselect everything and select the edges that make up the picture frame
or if it would be easier you could just send me the blender file and I can delete that
shadow olive
i made it a vertex group for simplicity sake
and if you know how to do that it would be awesome!
jagged sequoia
just PM me the blend file
random badge
Deleting faces deleted the whole thing because you have the whole thing selected
you need to do face select
then select the faces you want to delete
then delete the faces @shadow olive
shadow olive
i actually just figured everything out a few seconds ago, thanks though!
random badge
Smart lad
shadow olive
aight so im just gonna keep asking things here, since the rest of the world has no clue how to do anything
if there's no transparency, how are people putting chairs on their avatars?
like, how they making it invisible on quest?
jagged sequoia
being invisible is separate from being transparent as the chairs just don't render any objects
shadow olive
wait are chairs invisible by default?
shadow olive
i dont know what you just said
errant dirge
qb speaks the truth
jagged sequoia
shadow olive
haha, you're a lifesaver!
alright
now it says vrc event handler is not allowed
deleting that deletes the chair though
dry zealot
Delete the vrc event handler component in one of the object of the chair that you drag in your model in your scene in your unity project
twin lichen
here's a custom animation i thought of for my character ^^
suggestions for animations very welcome ^^
cunning imp
Do you have full body? Won't be able to do some of those VR poses without it
twin lichen
i dont have full body, no
cunning imp
Forgot which chat I was in lol
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With quest this is impossible
cunning imp
You can set up custom prone idles but unless it's changed you can't do crouch idles
twin lichen
i know
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And the sitting one too
twin lichen
i know
the person who's making it is making specific poses for that
hell override the crouching pose with a doggy like sitting pose when i go low enough
and laying down with a laying on back pose, since usually if i actually wanna lay down im gonna lay down on my back, not belly
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Is that possible in vr?
cunning imp
That's what I'm saying I'm pretty sure crouch override does not work
Prone override does
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Im pretty sure crouching overrides are for desktop only?
cunning imp
In VR there is no such thing as a crouch animation. As your headset lowers it bends your legs to compensate
However if you lay down in VR your avatar will use a prone animation or lay down
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your head just squishes into your torso
cunning imp
Therefore you can change your prone animation but not your crouch animation
cunning imp
It's just a bunch of jargon in the end lol
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Scena is a proficient creator, there shouldnt be any problems getting stuff working thats possible
cunning imp
Big thing is the difference between animations and inverse kinematics and how/when vrchat uses animations vs raw IK
twin lichen
so Scena says: Will go into a crouching position, scinon says: wont go into a preset position, but bend knees, and blue says: torso will just float down into the legs without legs moving
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Mine and scions descriptions are the same thing worded differently π
cunning imp
Well crouching position and bending knees is the same thing. The IK system works by emulating how the bones would work IRL
cunning imp
So as your headset lowers the hips go down, knees forward. So all 3 of us are explaining the same thing differently
3D modeling in a nutshell
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Looks to me like Scena thinks the anim override will work though?
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Scena
cunning imp
They can try for sure I haven't tried for like half a year
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I feel like they may think that you might play in desktop mode
twin lichen
no
cunning imp
Their pictures have a stick man with VR tho
twin lichen
they know im using the quest
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I know they know but its engrained in comissioners minds that desktop is an option
I got confused even, when doing comissions for questies
cunning imp
Yeah not trying to shit on your parade btw, should look great when it's done
I've actually never thought about desktop when making models for others
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Could just be me then, either way its in their hands
cunning imp
I always focus on making it work for FBT and if it does it should work for non FBT and desktop as well
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The character is cool, i hope it turns out alright for ya
twin lichen
well ill ask them
what about custom animations?
im still open for suggestions ^^
what do you guys think about the one i animated already?
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Very cool! Is scena willing to do multiple animations?
cunning imp
I think the hand gestures are good, for suggestions I would recommend a prop or two but even then the poly limits already pretty low so probably not
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Thats one thing im concerned about using a Nanachi base, the tri count
cunning imp
How many polys are in the base nanachi?
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Id love to tell you but i have no idea
cunning imp
I've looked at it once yeah but I don't remember