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fading verge Feb 20, 2018, 1:54 PM

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look for a diffuse map

cobalt cedar Feb 20, 2018, 1:54 PM

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Standard shader always makes things look like plastic

fading verge Feb 20, 2018, 1:54 PM

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no

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they dont

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if you know how to use them

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awoo

stiff edge Feb 20, 2018, 1:55 PM

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ive applied diffuse map to everything

fading verge Feb 20, 2018, 1:55 PM

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ok

stiff edge Feb 20, 2018, 1:55 PM

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I lowered it on the face and body

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but its on full on the hair

normal blaze Feb 20, 2018, 1:55 PM

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why don't you use flitlit?

reef skiff Feb 20, 2018, 1:55 PM

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i'll try the model on the next occasion then, thank you very much @fading verge

normal blaze Feb 20, 2018, 1:55 PM

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flatlittoon*

fading verge Feb 20, 2018, 1:55 PM

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is that hair or a cowl

stiff edge Feb 20, 2018, 1:55 PM

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idk I wanted it to look a little more real

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fading verge Feb 20, 2018, 1:56 PM

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oh

normal blaze Feb 20, 2018, 1:56 PM

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https://vrcat.club/threads/silents-modified-material-shaders.84/ maybe trie this?

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Silent's Modified Material Shaders

Hi everyone.

This is a collection of some shaders I've created for Unity.

◆ Cubed's toon shader with custom lighting ramp
version: 1 | 1.5 | 2 | 2.1...

stiff edge Feb 20, 2018, 1:56 PM

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oh but I can just lower the smoothness

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fading verge Feb 20, 2018, 1:57 PM

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i think it looks good

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unless you want to pay me and i give you a seminar on shading

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xD

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we can make it look real

stiff edge Feb 20, 2018, 1:58 PM

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its meh but ill still have to redoit someday cuz I decimated it like shit

fading verge Feb 20, 2018, 1:58 PM

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2k is not alor

reef skiff Feb 20, 2018, 1:59 PM

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ah I've got another problem, whenever i import my model to unity, she loses her pupil colours, i can't change them by adding another material on top either, it just stays black, happens only with this single model

stiff edge Feb 20, 2018, 1:59 PM

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huh?

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double click your model

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look for the eyes material

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expand the arrow thingy

reef skiff Feb 20, 2018, 2:00 PM

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the eyes are together with the whole face

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ah in blender

stiff edge Feb 20, 2018, 2:00 PM

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nono

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in unity

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set them to cutout mode

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and like 0.1

normal blaze Feb 20, 2018, 2:00 PM

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https://puu.sh/zrQKA.png doesn't seem to work with this method too jean

reef skiff Feb 20, 2018, 2:00 PM

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in unity its connected to the whole face

stiff edge Feb 20, 2018, 2:01 PM

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shouldnt matter

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cuz the face doesnt have transparency

fading verge Feb 20, 2018, 2:01 PM

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shammy

reef skiff Feb 20, 2018, 2:01 PM

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ah, i'll try that then, thanks

fading verge Feb 20, 2018, 2:01 PM

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how about i screenshare you what i mean

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no w8

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you are right it wont work

stiff edge Feb 20, 2018, 2:02 PM

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play around with the alpha cutoff value because it may vary

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but most likely will work with 0.1

fading verge Feb 20, 2018, 2:03 PM

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awoo you got two diffrent texture soaces

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if your eye texture and body texture are on image

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delete the extra material

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and drag and drop the image directly onto the eyes

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in unity

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@normal blaze try playing around with the physics/joints in unity you mind find a way to do what you did in blender and copy rotation

reef skiff Feb 20, 2018, 2:07 PM

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i'll try to find the extra material then

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because the method with cutout doesn't work

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in this case

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any way of softer scrolling into object in unity?

fading verge Feb 20, 2018, 2:10 PM

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what do you mean ?

reef skiff Feb 20, 2018, 2:12 PM

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I'd like to scroll into my head as in come closer to it but I'm always going too far, not sure if that makes any sense

fading verge Feb 20, 2018, 2:13 PM

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in the viewport?

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seems like your model is tiny

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^^

stiff edge Feb 20, 2018, 2:14 PM

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k the last thing on this mdel would be managing to get the mesh to render both sides on the standard shader

reef skiff Feb 20, 2018, 2:14 PM

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the size of a chair from prefab

normal blaze Feb 20, 2018, 2:14 PM

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what settings do you use on the stnards sahder?

stiff edge Feb 20, 2018, 2:15 PM

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http://prntscr.com/ihcovq

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normal blaze Feb 20, 2018, 2:15 PM

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ah nvm

stiff edge Feb 20, 2018, 2:15 PM

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thats for one material but I have different

normal blaze Feb 20, 2018, 2:15 PM

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i have a super standasrd shader without culling but it doesn't have many settings

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idk where the standard shader is

fading verge Feb 20, 2018, 2:16 PM

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sichhuten you can turn the smoothness down a bit

stiff edge Feb 20, 2018, 2:16 PM

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yeah I know but on that piece I liked it like that

reef skiff Feb 20, 2018, 2:16 PM

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I've put a random colour onto the eyes and almost every shader doesn't change anything at all, only one does, the unity chan shader @fading verge but it changes it to 1 solid colour of my choice T_T

stiff edge Feb 20, 2018, 2:16 PM

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cuz its metal and stuff

fading verge Feb 20, 2018, 2:16 PM

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ok

stiff edge Feb 20, 2018, 2:16 PM

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on cloth I lowered it a bunch

fading verge Feb 20, 2018, 2:17 PM

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btw only use metal for metal

stiff edge Feb 20, 2018, 2:17 PM

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wow theres a metallic setting

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lol

fading verge Feb 20, 2018, 2:17 PM

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^^

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just play with those settings until you like ot

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but make sure to light yourcharacter up nice first

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@reef skiff how about you screenshare me that project of yours

deft edge Feb 20, 2018, 4:25 PM

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Putting shoulder bones on a model which had none

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Have to weight paint now.

fading verge Feb 20, 2018, 4:36 PM

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teddy

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xD

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wanna see a avatar imade

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you will like it

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i promise

lilac moss Feb 20, 2018, 4:39 PM

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yes pls

fading verge Feb 20, 2018, 4:39 PM

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@deft edge only for you http://oi64.tinypic.com/k4vuwh.jpg

deft edge Feb 20, 2018, 5:17 PM

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Remember to call 1-900-490-FREAK

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C A L L N O W !

fading verge Feb 20, 2018, 5:25 PM

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^^

buoyant berry Feb 20, 2018, 5:29 PM

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My avatar is all rigged in blender. Can move bones and the mesh will follow.

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But once I've moved it to unity it t poses.

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Any ideas?

deft edge Feb 20, 2018, 5:32 PM

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Be sure to make the arms never move @fading verge

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Gotta be AUTHENTIC

fading verge Feb 20, 2018, 5:32 PM

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xD

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alrdy boned them but one could make them jiggle bones

deft edge Feb 20, 2018, 5:33 PM

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that'd be hilarious

dreamy fiber Feb 20, 2018, 5:39 PM

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How do you attach a part of a character to another? My character seems to have eyebrows that stay in place and do not follow the head's movement

buoyant berry Feb 20, 2018, 5:40 PM

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No sense is being made. In blender the legs move with the bones. Export to fbx then unity and the mesh isn't attached. This is driving me nuts!

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http://jmp.sh/gjBhgga

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It's not the added backpack. Thats an addition in unity and i've tested it without it.

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@dreamy fiber Try out https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ss0y93oaIvg

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dreamy fiber Feb 20, 2018, 5:59 PM

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Thanks, I'll check it out!

dreamy fiber Feb 20, 2018, 6:15 PM

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I do still have an issue with some bones auto-posing when loading them up into the Scene in Unity for some reason

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Like, one of the eyebrows seems to curve a little compared to when it's in T-pose

fading verge Feb 20, 2018, 6:16 PM

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how is your waitpainting looking

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?

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okey my fellow robloxian

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looks like you got a case of not applying rotation location and scale

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before exporting your model make sure scale rotation and location are 0-0-0

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okey

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ps is your hierarchy in the right order?

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plus check online for proper exporting from blender to unity

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hope one of those help

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dreamy fiber Feb 20, 2018, 6:24 PM

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I mixed the weights that were conflictive and that solved the issue

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Thanks

normal blaze Feb 20, 2018, 6:52 PM

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trying to give my avatar robot arms but when i parent the robowrist and rotate original wrist it pivots and breaks away from the arm - anyone know a way around this? psure I've seen similar stuff done before https://puu.sh/zrPju.png

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been at this literally all day on my day off ;_;

fading verge Feb 20, 2018, 6:53 PM

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^^

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dmn

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@normal blaze the way you try will never work

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because a if you rotate a parent a child will rotate with the parent from the "parents pivot point"

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the only way this will work properly is with copy rotation

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https://forum.unity.com/threads/copy-bone-trasnform-in-other-animation.142488/

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Copy bone trasnform in other animation

struct stMemory{
public Vector3 position;
public Quaternion rotation;
};

trasL = new stdat[25];

setBoneTransformRecursive( 0,...

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dmn an unfinished script

ionic lake Feb 20, 2018, 7:04 PM

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https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/412721931855331328/415584313128648734/unknown.png Will this work?

normal blaze Feb 20, 2018, 7:07 PM

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I know but scripts dont work on avatars unless they're whitelisted

fading verge Feb 20, 2018, 7:10 PM

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since the arm movement is captured by your vr gear i have now clue how to get that info into a second pair of arms

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the copy rotation thing is still your best option

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get in touch with a dev or something

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did you look at all the whitelisted things maby one can do what you need

dreamy fiber Feb 20, 2018, 7:16 PM

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How can I change the default position of something in a character? Like, an ear to be more rotated in one direction or the other, since, I edit the bone in the rig/bone viewer of Unity, but when I load it into the scene or in-game everything's the same

normal blaze Feb 20, 2018, 7:16 PM

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you just rotate it in unity after you've configured it

dreamy fiber Feb 20, 2018, 7:17 PM

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Like, in the scene?

normal blaze Feb 20, 2018, 7:17 PM

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yeah

dreamy fiber Feb 20, 2018, 7:17 PM

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Alrighty, thanks!

fading verge Feb 20, 2018, 7:23 PM

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@normal blaze looking at it the animator component might be what you need to achieve what you want

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maybe

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^^

normal blaze Feb 20, 2018, 7:40 PM

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maybe

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no idea how they work though

dreamy fiber Feb 20, 2018, 7:54 PM

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The initial pose of the jaw for using the "jaw flap bone" function needs to be set in blender correct?

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Cause even though I change it in Unity scene and rig viewer it still stays half-open

fading verge Feb 20, 2018, 7:54 PM

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could be

brisk mesa Feb 20, 2018, 8:14 PM

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Half open ingame?

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Check to make sure your eyetracking isnt affecting jaw cause this is apparently common

reef skiff Feb 20, 2018, 9:18 PM

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does anyone know why my shoulders separate kinda from the chest when i cross my arms ingame? heres a pic with my arm heavily down https://imgur.com/6bpPXbd

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trail lion Feb 20, 2018, 10:06 PM

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is there away to enable slave bones in unity?

vestal dirge Feb 20, 2018, 11:50 PM

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@dreamy fiber the best place to see the "rest" pose of the jaw, is to look at the face in the "muscles" tab of the rig config. You can tab back and forth as you adjust the jaw angle in the main config tab.

ruby depot Feb 21, 2018, 1:19 AM

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I've got a weird issue where when I pose/rotate a root bone, it moves the base (big part) of the bone around, instead of the base remaining stationary and swinging the tip around.

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The bone has weight associated with it, so I'm not sure what the issue is

spice crypt Feb 21, 2018, 1:42 AM

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How I fix this when I add weapons? https://gyazo.com/7d9ce97efecec77a19a1a97226d814de

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tall marten Feb 21, 2018, 2:08 AM

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how can i change the weight of bones because i need my crown not to move

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naive tree Feb 21, 2018, 2:11 AM

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seperate the crown, delete all vertex groups from crown, join back, create new vertex group named Head and hit assign when all crown faces are selected

spice crypt Feb 21, 2018, 2:12 AM

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@naive tree who u are answering?

naive tree Feb 21, 2018, 2:13 AM

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aaron

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there's a "crown" in his and my posts

tall marten Feb 21, 2018, 2:13 AM

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;-; im a female and its aron

naive tree Feb 21, 2018, 2:16 AM

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I've heard enough voice changers to still have my doubts vrpill

tall marten Feb 21, 2018, 2:16 AM

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nah im 100% female i just like male and female models

stiff edge Feb 21, 2018, 2:42 AM

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Is there a way to edit the size of bones inside unity without modifying the textures

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My feet go through the floor

ruby depot Feb 21, 2018, 4:10 AM

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Your feet going through the floor is probably because of where your origin point is set

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@stiff edge ;

You shoung try to change the origin of your model to below the model's feet. You need to do the following in Blender with your model:

Press SHIFT + C; this will move your 3d cursor to the center of the screen and adjust your view area's focus accordingly
Move the model (With either the move axis icon, or G+Z) until its feet are above the 3d cursor
Press CTRL + ALT + SHIFT + C to bring up the origin prompt
Select "Origin to 3D Cursor"
It might also help to hit CTRL + A and set the Position, Rotation, and Scale to 0,0,0 afterwards.

naive tree Feb 21, 2018, 4:21 AM

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i would put your feet higher than the 3d cursor center, also you'd prob want to move your ankle+knee bones to the ground level

stiff edge Feb 21, 2018, 4:34 AM

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isnt there a way to do it inside unity cuz I wouldnt want to config every material again, there was a lot of fiddling to get the look right

naive tree Feb 21, 2018, 4:39 AM

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your materials are saved in unity, only thing that needs re-adjusting is copy-pasting dynamic scripts, particle systems and other shit is easy to copy over

stiff edge Feb 21, 2018, 4:47 AM

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but when I import the new model wont it change all the materials' settings?

lucid cave Feb 21, 2018, 4:47 AM

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anyone know how to make animation/ custom emotes last longer? I found an animation (one short punch) but I want it to repeat a few times so it lasts longer, how do I fix?

tame skiff Feb 21, 2018, 4:54 AM

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@lucid cave I think there's a hard limit of 10 seconds

lucid cave Feb 21, 2018, 4:54 AM

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oh ok

tame skiff Feb 21, 2018, 4:55 AM

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You were talking about clip duration and not making the frames you have repeat, right?

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https://www.dropbox.com/s/pzy81l8bml6zrdn/Screenshot 2018-02-20 23.51.06.png?dl=0

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There's no reason for the dynamic bones to fly up during runtime

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I tried force and gravity and max elasticity and it just stays up there

ember nest Feb 21, 2018, 5:13 AM

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does anyone have experience with rigify... it keeps giving me a error when i use the generate button with this at the bottom = nonetype object has no attribute 'keys'

wispy olive Feb 21, 2018, 5:20 AM

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Super new to Vrchat and been trying to play around with my vive and avatar. Can anyone direct me to a good video for adding facial expressions?

spring crescent Feb 21, 2018, 6:48 AM

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@wispy olive Have you watched Tupper's videos on YT? They cover just about everything.

wispy olive Feb 21, 2018, 6:58 AM

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i tried watching it but i was confused with using a model from a ps1 game.

vagrant olive Feb 21, 2018, 7:11 AM

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Anyone need help with avatars? I wanna make new friendos and have company while uploading coolio avatars

wispy olive Feb 21, 2018, 7:23 AM

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me pls 😃

rotund field Feb 21, 2018, 7:36 AM

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Wish I had a couple lol

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Avatars that is

desert apex Feb 21, 2018, 7:38 AM

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Facial experession is pretty easy, just click on 'body' and there should be a little arrow with 'blended shapekeys' or smth, clicking on that you'll get a whole list, by putting their values on 100 you can check what they are. Then when you got a good combo (I'd advice combining some for the best result) go to the animator and much like a weapon, add it (its under body when adding component) put it at 100 and done, if you wanna go all out you can add your fingers through the animator, so you can be happy and do the victory sign or point angerly etc etc

rich wedge Feb 21, 2018, 8:23 AM

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I wanna make an animated mini tank

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how would I go about making the turret rotate like a head?

desert apex Feb 21, 2018, 8:26 AM

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What you could possibly do is take a humanoid armature and stick it in the tank. If you just wanna animate it, just have the turret mesh seperate from the base and animate it in blender or unity

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As long as there's a bone in it it should work

rich wedge Feb 21, 2018, 8:26 AM

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I wanna make the turret rotate in place of a head

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but I want it to be limited to just plane rotation, not all directions

desert apex Feb 21, 2018, 8:28 AM

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I've been thinking about that. Using a humanoid armature could work, but then you'd still have bobbing and it would indeed also go up and down. Dunno if you can lock smth from moving or rotating up and down

mental lynx Feb 21, 2018, 8:29 AM

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Anyone have any suggestions or information on how to add breast bones? I've gotten close, but what I did caused the entire chest to warp

desert apex Feb 21, 2018, 8:30 AM

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There's a tutorial online

mental lynx Feb 21, 2018, 8:30 AM

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I've followed a couple, but that's where I got my issue of the entire chest warping.

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I think they expected more... intricate models

brisk mesa Feb 21, 2018, 9:28 AM

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you add the bones like normal and then you gotta paint the titty correctly, @mental lynx

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so uh, don't paint the middle cause that's the chest wall, mostly just the tit itself, and be aware of clothing over the titty. so if you've ever paid attention to sideboob too, also get those parts but not anything more than that, unless you want some detail like a very very slight clothing rustle around the titty which is fine.

forest nova Feb 21, 2018, 1:08 PM

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Any of you know how i put finger bones on a model

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im trying to get gardevoir to have finger bones

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?

naive tree Feb 21, 2018, 2:00 PM

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extrude from your wrist

crimson vine Feb 21, 2018, 5:05 PM

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WHY DO SHORT AVATARS HAVE A POTTY DANCE

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@forest nova there's plenty of rigging tutorials.

normal blaze Feb 21, 2018, 5:44 PM

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reposting my questionn from yesterday

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: trying to give my avatar robot arms but when i parent the robowrist and rotate original wrist it pivots and breaks away from the arm - anyone know a way around this? psure I've seen similar stuff done before https://puu.sh/zrPju.png

restive hill Feb 21, 2018, 6:24 PM

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Driver, I think it is?

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As far as I know you have to parent the extra arm to itself

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But I think there's a way to copy the actual arms rotation to the extra arm?

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I have no idea how to do this.

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Well, maybe a very vague idea.

fast rain Feb 21, 2018, 6:42 PM

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I've just changed a blend shape for an existing character in Blender, re-exported as .fbx and copied that one over the original one in the Unity project folder. Now I have a "Missing Prefab" in my Hierarchy instead of the original character I've done before, even when moving the original .fbx back. Did I fuck up and need to start over, or might this be recoverable?

brisk mesa Feb 21, 2018, 7:35 PM

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I think you need to start over

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Cause unity is very particular

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Unity is like always last step

oblique venture Feb 21, 2018, 8:07 PM

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https://imgur.com/FI7A8d1 Hello, my model is like this in Blender, so no bones actually, it is hard to make all bones armature ? because i'm a "newbie"

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honest kettle Feb 21, 2018, 8:08 PM

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do you have the cats plugin and used the fix model button? (if it was an mmd)

oblique venture Feb 21, 2018, 8:10 PM

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No I can't :/

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@honest kettle https://imgur.com/LBdu9rc it's a model I exported from Overwatch, so it's not rigged at all

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honest kettle Feb 21, 2018, 8:11 PM

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okay :cirMini:

bleak warren Feb 21, 2018, 8:25 PM

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o: it's the new genji skin hah

oblique venture Feb 21, 2018, 8:39 PM

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@bleak warren Yes 😊

bleak warren Feb 21, 2018, 8:46 PM

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10/10 good luck @oblique venture

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best

oblique venture Feb 21, 2018, 8:48 PM

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thanks 😄

opal aurora Feb 21, 2018, 9:03 PM

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Those are valve bones .-.

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You can simply export it as a .fbx and start repositioning them so they align with the meshes they need to move

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Also make sure their rolls are all 0 after re-aligning

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@oblique venture

oblique venture Feb 21, 2018, 9:09 PM

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@opal aurora oh ok re-aligning on unity ?

opal aurora Feb 21, 2018, 9:29 PM

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In blender

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An example https://image.prntscr.com/image/YsY1jxHZSYG8tGZmriVLiA.png

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The left is valve bones, those aren't fixed up or anything, on the right is the bones from a .fbx, those i fixed up after exporting as a .fbx

oblique venture Feb 21, 2018, 9:33 PM

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how much time I need to do that ? look's like a bit complicate xD

opal aurora Feb 21, 2018, 9:33 PM

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It can take quite a while depending on how complex it is

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That one specifically took me a whole day

oblique venture Feb 21, 2018, 9:34 PM

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oh god

opal aurora Feb 21, 2018, 9:34 PM

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Since i had never worked with valve models before

oblique venture Feb 21, 2018, 9:34 PM

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and if I take an other genji model, just pick the bones and try to connect with my no bones model

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is that possible ?

opal aurora Feb 21, 2018, 9:35 PM

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You can let blender auto weight it and then you can fix the weights yourself if the rig is accurate enough

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But that's about it when it comes to bone transfering, unless they have the same vertex groups

oblique venture Feb 21, 2018, 9:37 PM

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I will try, thanks for you help by the way

fading verge Feb 21, 2018, 9:47 PM

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@oblique venture its not that hard

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i can link you an easy tut for rigging and weightpainting

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just go to youtube and type blender rigging

fading verge Feb 21, 2018, 10:13 PM

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Does anyone know if this is the correct format for mixamo? https://imgur.com/a/1PzMD

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That as a .zip?

inland comet Feb 21, 2018, 10:18 PM

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is there a way to make removable objects for your avatar that it will have when you change to it?

tall marten Feb 21, 2018, 11:38 PM

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how can i get the crown mesh to move with the head

calm needle Feb 21, 2018, 11:41 PM

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there are two ways

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yoou can either weight paint it ot the head bone, or you can make sure its a seperate mesh and parent it in unity

gleaming falcon Feb 21, 2018, 11:59 PM

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Hey guys. Anybody know how to fix normals like this?

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https://i.imgur.com/CnanmSm.png

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https://imgur.com/a/uYdFt

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Blender it looks fine, but putting it in unity is when it gets weird

calm needle Feb 22, 2018, 12:12 AM

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in blender, enable the backface culling option. Does it resemble the unity one then?

gleaming falcon Feb 22, 2018, 12:15 AM

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Still the same

calm needle Feb 22, 2018, 12:16 AM

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so it's not a flipped normal then

tall marten Feb 22, 2018, 12:16 AM

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how can i fix this

calm needle Feb 22, 2018, 12:17 AM

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looks like its not completley weight painted

gleaming falcon Feb 22, 2018, 12:17 AM

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I've gathered that much, seems like the normals dont know which way the face is facing... or something

fading verge Feb 22, 2018, 12:22 AM

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@gleaming falcon have you tried select the faces in Edit Mode, then hit ctrl+n in blender?

gleaming falcon Feb 22, 2018, 12:22 AM

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ctrl+n is start new project

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or was that your way of starting over?

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:^)

fading verge Feb 22, 2018, 12:23 AM

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not in edit mode

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CtrlN Calculate Normals Outside. All normals from selected faces are recalculated and consistently set in the same direction. An attempt is made to direct all normals 'outward'.

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I'm not that evil 😉

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it might not work but sometimes it flips all the flipped ones the right way for you, worth a shot

gleaming falcon Feb 22, 2018, 12:26 AM

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nope didnt work either =\

fading verge Feb 22, 2018, 12:26 AM

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meh 😐

gleaming falcon Feb 22, 2018, 12:27 AM

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https://imgur.com/a/dAj9s

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When I change the light rotation, the faces act like they're being lit from a different angle

high gyro Feb 22, 2018, 12:28 AM

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So I am having some trouble getting this model to work... I am completely new to blender and unity and I am really trying to get this done. The model looks like this and I am trying to get all of the legs to jiggle when moving around in VRChat. The textures for the head and shirt also mess up really bad in Unity. I would really appreciate if I could get some help in a DM or right here.

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https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/387450722410561547/416027178162061312/unknown.png

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https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/387450722410561547/416027438724808711/unknown.png

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Im completely new and to do anything it would require a bit of explanation

calm needle Feb 22, 2018, 12:38 AM

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@gleaming falcon mabye try using the normal modifier to try and fix it?

normal blaze Feb 22, 2018, 12:50 AM

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@high gyro use cubed's unity shaders on nthe materials and dynamic bones on the legs

high gyro Feb 22, 2018, 12:51 AM

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ok ill try

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and can you possibly tell me how to do the dynamic bones

normal blaze Feb 22, 2018, 12:52 AM

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i can't explain now, im going to bed, but there should be some stuff in #tutorials

graceful wave Feb 22, 2018, 12:58 AM

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So my model has no head bones and is missing a hip bone. Where and how do I even begin to fix this? I couldn't find anything in #tutorials about this.

fading verge Feb 22, 2018, 1:02 AM

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Create them

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🤔

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You'll need blender to do so

haughty elbow Feb 22, 2018, 1:16 AM

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Hello does anyone here know why my avatar's spine is breaking after adding dummy finger bones?

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the t pose looks fine in both unity and blender but in game my character is doing like an S pose

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and if i don't set finger bones in unity it's fine

calm needle Feb 22, 2018, 1:26 AM

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something in the IK system is causing it. Flipped hip maybe?

haughty elbow Feb 22, 2018, 1:27 AM

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well the hip on this avatar is kinda weird but does it matter when i'm adding fingers ?

fading verge Feb 22, 2018, 1:27 AM

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Perhaps just line the spine all straight

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Just to be sure

calm needle Feb 22, 2018, 1:29 AM

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when the fingers are added, you are meeting the last few requirements for full body IK. So something in there doesnt like full body IK but fine with basic animator

haughty elbow Feb 22, 2018, 1:29 AM

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o so that's why

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can i somehow skip the full body ik ?

random lotus Feb 22, 2018, 1:34 AM

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What does full body ik do anyway?

haughty elbow Feb 22, 2018, 1:35 AM

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for full body tracking i guess

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unless it's also needed if you want to use vr controllers

gleaming falcon Feb 22, 2018, 1:53 AM

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@calm needle So that modifier worked. Just have to remake the blendshapes, which is really easy for me

random lotus Feb 22, 2018, 2:24 AM

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Okay, i noticed something ODD! when i enforce this model into a t-pose his thumbs just completely break http://prntscr.com/ii3ayt

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raven quiver Feb 22, 2018, 2:39 AM

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I have a model with no shoulder bones
how do i add them??

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or jsut tell me if theres any way to rig a model without shoulder bones for vrchat

haughty elbow Feb 22, 2018, 2:45 AM

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shoulder bones are optional

raven quiver Feb 22, 2018, 2:49 AM

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https://gyazo.com/71408f9f6302455d3174ca47ec1e7628

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its required

haughty elbow Feb 22, 2018, 2:49 AM

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https://i.imgur.com/S6s2mLV.png

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raven quiver Feb 22, 2018, 2:50 AM

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thats for unity not vrchat

fading verge Feb 22, 2018, 2:56 AM

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how should the bones thumb setup look??

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the thumb behaves like a finger not a thumb

raven quiver Feb 22, 2018, 3:13 AM

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nvm i figured it out

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turns out adding shoulder bones is ez

fading verge Feb 22, 2018, 4:44 AM

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anyone knows how to get jawflap working with a blendshape

rich wedge Feb 22, 2018, 4:45 AM

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so on those snake models, how do they get the tail to trail along? instead of like being attatched

fading verge Feb 22, 2018, 4:47 AM

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@rich wedge either with dynamic bones or with joint

velvet path Feb 22, 2018, 7:56 AM

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Hey, So I'm trying to get two models to use one avatar rig simultaneously. I got it working with rotation constraints in Blender, but those don't translate over to Unity. Does anyone have a script or knows C# coding that could make one in order to have one bone copy the rotation parameters of another/the humanoid rig bones?

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For reference, I want to accomplish this, which was done in blender, in Unity
https://gyazo.com/0c02ac2c6a9488927972a053b46b96e4

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modern oyster Feb 22, 2018, 9:38 AM

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VRChat does not support custom scripts from Unity.

vale shell Feb 22, 2018, 9:41 AM

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not yet

cosmic bison Feb 22, 2018, 9:46 AM

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Does anyone know how to elevate your character height? I've tried setting the origin higher in Blender but no avail.

modern oyster Feb 22, 2018, 10:01 AM

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@cosmic bison What do you mean elevate their height?

tulip granite Feb 22, 2018, 10:11 AM

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@velvet path i think you can try merging the bones and mesh to make it one model
then use the bone parenting to make the other model move instead

velvet path Feb 22, 2018, 10:17 AM

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I tried something similar to that, this was the result https://gyazo.com/f82c8ce5e9d363838e0559ec94d4a0a4

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brisk mesa Feb 22, 2018, 10:20 AM

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oh, i see it isn't copying what the main armature is doing, huh, but it just deforms around the bone you are actually moving

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which causes anime noodle arms

velvet path Feb 22, 2018, 10:21 AM

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Yeah

tulip granite Feb 22, 2018, 10:21 AM

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just make sure their proportion is similar i guess

velvet path Feb 22, 2018, 10:21 AM

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So

tulip granite Feb 22, 2018, 10:21 AM

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thats not really noodle arms

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i can show you one

brisk mesa Feb 22, 2018, 10:21 AM

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lol

velvet path Feb 22, 2018, 10:21 AM

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With the two models using the same skeleton, the areas which are weight painted move at an axis to the bone they're painted to

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Its like drawing a straight line to the weight painted area from the bone, and as the bone turns, that moves along with it

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Theres no way in unity to link two bones to one rig bone selection, is there?

tulip granite Feb 22, 2018, 10:22 AM

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https://i.gyazo.com/c3c5eda1df64b6bcb7d622fff00dbb0a.png

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this is spaghetti arms

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hmm

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i never tried but

brisk mesa Feb 22, 2018, 10:23 AM

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lmao top ramen arms

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noodle-chan

tulip granite Feb 22, 2018, 10:23 AM

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its like

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after getting vr you just get lazy

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UwU

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i used to be so crazily in love with avatar making sigh

brisk mesa Feb 22, 2018, 10:25 AM

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i can't get into vr just yet cause vr gloves are like

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2000 dollars

velvet path Feb 22, 2018, 10:25 AM

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I guess the 2nd idea would be

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Have the first model fully posable with the 2nd model inside invisible

brisk mesa Feb 22, 2018, 10:25 AM

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i'll get more into vr when haptic feedback or such things are more mainstream

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so then i can REALLY headpet my friends

velvet path Feb 22, 2018, 10:26 AM

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And use an override to make the 2nd model appear over the first, and take over the arms, while having the first's hands in their pockets

tulip granite Feb 22, 2018, 10:26 AM

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hmm

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im not sure if that would work

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one issue with vr is

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i mostly get 45 fps

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:\

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not like im using a potato

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they also limit the fps to 90

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which is a bummer

velvet path Feb 22, 2018, 10:30 AM

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Hm.

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Maybe I'm better off having an animated version of the 2nd model appear on an override?

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Then later on once more development is put in, Maybe we can do simultaneous 2 model rigging

brisk mesa Feb 22, 2018, 10:36 AM

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wait the game seriously won't let us?

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it doesn't seem that advanced

velvet path Feb 22, 2018, 10:36 AM

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Im not so sure.

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You can't select two bones for one rig

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and it doesn't translate constraints from blender to unity

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I figured it could be accomplished with a custom C# script but since we can't have customs yet, dunno

brisk mesa Feb 22, 2018, 10:40 AM

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yeah.

cosmic bison Feb 22, 2018, 11:18 AM

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@modern oyster I mean floating in the air

modern oyster Feb 22, 2018, 11:19 AM

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Like contantly, or in emotes?

cosmic bison Feb 22, 2018, 11:20 AM

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constantly

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I want to move my model to a different origin that's not on the ground

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Would that be possible?

sleek magnet Feb 22, 2018, 11:24 AM

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The model I am working on has a large muscly torso that hands/arms tend to go inside if I don't walk around like a zombie

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Is there a decent way of ensuring that arms wrap around the torso, for example?

sharp viper Feb 22, 2018, 2:16 PM

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it's all about weight painting correctly, or using capsules

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blender is kinda tough when it comes to that. like, it can do everything - but it's like eating soup with a ladel

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it gets the job done but it's awkward

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mmd avatars are made, for the most part in metaseqoia

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and most people find meta the easiest when it comes to redoing bones from scratch

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https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/409773099290984471/409871141436522526/unknown.png?width=1094&height=633

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since most avatars are mmd based, some of you might enjoy learning that software

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if I did a tutorial on building an avatar from scratch using meta and going directly to unity would anyone be interested? It would include a template for a bone structure suited for vrchat

pseudo silo Feb 22, 2018, 3:47 PM

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@velvet path use a vertex shader to offset the stand

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And just have it rigged and positioned exactly like the body

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With a shader parameter you could animate this offset and have it "pop" out

turbid spear Feb 22, 2018, 6:59 PM

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How would I go about removing extra bones without losing their weights? For example, this arm has these bones sticking out, which I don't want, but outright deleting them makes some vertices have no weights at all https://puu.sh/zsHLF/eff1193ff2.png

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These bones only have weights at the joints too https://puu.sh/ztrwX/a04e0c3199.png

heavy pasture Feb 22, 2018, 7:15 PM

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You can just delete the extra bones

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It's mostly a problem when you have vr

turbid spear Feb 22, 2018, 7:15 PM

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Then this happens https://puu.sh/zts7H/19fd858b7c.png

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So that's not a solution, and yes, I do have VR

heavy pasture Feb 22, 2018, 7:16 PM

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Just repaint the joint weights to your wrist or arm bones

turbid spear Feb 22, 2018, 7:20 PM

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Makes sense, but the whole model has a bunch of these extra joint bones and I was wondering if there was a less tedious way to do it

heavy pasture Feb 22, 2018, 7:25 PM

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Not that I know of. Maybe someone else will have a better idea.

forest nova Feb 22, 2018, 7:36 PM

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Can anyone help me add bones

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iv got a model that already has all the bones

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its just missing the shoulders

neon quiver Feb 22, 2018, 7:45 PM

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How would one go about rigging metroid samus suit. The shoulder ball area is messing up. Does it need a custome bone to tell it not to move when the arm move? Or would that require contraint bone?

pine harbor Feb 22, 2018, 7:46 PM

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you might need to figure out where to put the bone relative to the ball, unless you want the ball not to move at all relative to the "arm" bone

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in which case, it sounds like the ball should be mostly weighted to the shoulder, and little to none to the arm

forest nova Feb 22, 2018, 7:47 PM

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Spear

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Can you help

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How do i add shoulder bones

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?

pine harbor Feb 22, 2018, 7:50 PM

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in blender? you know how to select the armature/skeleton, right?

forest nova Feb 22, 2018, 7:51 PM

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yeah in edit mode

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iv selected the left arm bone

pine harbor Feb 22, 2018, 7:52 PM

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hmm, i don't know if there's a way where you can directly create a shoulder bone right from there...let's see...

forest nova Feb 22, 2018, 7:52 PM

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ill pm u on discord itll be easier

pine harbor Feb 22, 2018, 7:52 PM

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i can tell you that Shift + A will create a bone, but that's going to literally just float there wildly

neon quiver Feb 22, 2018, 7:54 PM

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Ok ill try that thanks

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What if i want the ball to move but not in a way stretch. sometime it does that. I just want the entire thing to move. Maybe it haa to do with the weight paint. Will test a few tries.

pine harbor Feb 22, 2018, 8:21 PM

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if you want the ball to move, but not stretch....yeah, that'll mostly be to do with the weight painting -- if it's influenced by both the arm and the shoulders, it'll probably stretch

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you probably want it to almost be fully influenced by the shoulder, and almost nothing from the arm

maiden hemlock Feb 22, 2018, 8:33 PM

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@turbid spear cats blender tool has a mix weights button, just make sure the joint bone is the child of the arm bone you want to transfer the weights to

turbid spear Feb 22, 2018, 8:35 PM

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@maiden hemlock Got it, thanks. I didn't notice that one, I've only looked at bone merging

maiden hemlock Feb 22, 2018, 8:38 PM

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^-^ yay

fading verge Feb 22, 2018, 8:49 PM

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so

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i have a model i have been talking about in #avatars-2-general and it has bones, but it has no shoulders and no head

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bones

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it has those things on the model

summer sequoia Feb 22, 2018, 8:57 PM

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anyone know how to get hand tracking on a character with less then 5 fingers?

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disables full body IK if I upload it without having thumb and ect mapped

cyan adder Feb 22, 2018, 9:50 PM

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https://imgur.com/a/IM27a

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any help

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when i move the right leg bones no issue

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when i move the left leg bones, the pelvis gets stretched

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also the nails wont follow the bones either

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better example

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https://i.imgur.com/BZVpcej.png

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fading verge Feb 22, 2018, 9:56 PM

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Hi, I'm unable to select a single vertex for the hand of my avatar, (I have selection set to invisible) any help appreciated, thx https://imgur.com/U7NGs5u

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oblique venture Feb 22, 2018, 9:59 PM

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https://imgur.com/3GwWwVu someone know what I need to do to fix that please ?

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fading verge Feb 22, 2018, 9:59 PM

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@fading verge try looking at the vertex groups for that mesh there

oblique venture Feb 22, 2018, 10:00 PM

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the model is really small, I need to zoom everytime when I import it

fading verge Feb 22, 2018, 10:12 PM

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@fading verge I found the problem by looking in the vertex group, thx you very much!

oblique venture Feb 22, 2018, 10:12 PM

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https://imgur.com/OcADb7m I tried to fix the scale, I don't know if it's good now, and I used "fix model" for the bones, but I have a problem, the arms bones is like " Clavicle > Shoulder > upper arm > Lower arm > hand " it's 5 bones, on unity it's only 4 slot bones

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fading verge Feb 22, 2018, 10:14 PM

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@oblique venture you have to merge the bones, https://i.stack.imgur.com/73ofa.gif

oblique venture Feb 22, 2018, 10:15 PM

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Oh ok thank you !

fading verge Feb 22, 2018, 10:15 PM

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To delete something in Blender and merge surrounding elements to a single object is to use Dissolve (Ctrl+X). It works for meshes, nodes, bones and grease pencil points.

oblique venture Feb 22, 2018, 10:19 PM

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the armature is so weird, it has two shoulders bones and two upper arm bones , it's SHOULDER_RC and SHOULDER_ R

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@fading verge Do I need to delete them ?

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and just keep the SHOULDER_R

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and how I can be in this mode like your gif ? i'm in edit mode but feel it's not that

dusty anvil Feb 22, 2018, 10:23 PM

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hey how can i fix feet being backwards in game but not unity

fading verge Feb 22, 2018, 10:29 PM

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@oblique venture I'm not a blender master, I just did a quick search https://blender.stackexchange.com/questions/40311/how-do-you-merge-two-bones-into-one

how do you merge two bones into one?

I have a generated mesh and set of bones from a makehuman model but it created two bones in the shin.

How do I merge the two selected bones into one bone but keep the skeleton intact, i.e. the kne...

summer sequoia Feb 22, 2018, 10:30 PM

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henlo i'm trying to make this avatars claw work with hand gestures and ect but it seems like you need the middle finger and thumb mapped in order for it to work suggestions?

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https://gyazo.com/0c90a51fd6cbf3b7aa601bcd381bce13

Gyazo

fading verge Feb 22, 2018, 10:30 PM

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@dusty anvil Have the avatar backwards in unity and problem solved ? ^^

dusty anvil Feb 22, 2018, 10:30 PM

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hm ill ty that later

summer sequoia Feb 22, 2018, 10:32 PM

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just want the claw to be able to squeeze possibly

neon quiver Feb 22, 2018, 10:33 PM

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Thansk foe the info!

oblique venture Feb 22, 2018, 10:35 PM

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it is normal if the bones aren't connected ?

fading verge Feb 22, 2018, 10:40 PM

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@oblique venture do you have a screenshot ?

oblique venture Feb 22, 2018, 11:02 PM

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Can someone fix my rigs model ? I can give some asset particle pack, i'm gonna be crazy i'm so bad with blender

stuck temple Feb 22, 2018, 11:03 PM

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https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/408007813131141121/416365303359078400/screen_1920x1080_2018-02-22_14-45-25.888.png why does this happen to my eye?

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is it because of eye tracking or something like that?

oblique venture Feb 22, 2018, 11:07 PM

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https://imgur.com/u7fVmr2 Helppppppppp

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the bones are inversed with LEFT and RIGHT

heavy imp Feb 22, 2018, 11:08 PM

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guys

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my mario model I got from internet

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its fuully rrigged

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but I get error when trying to upload

oblique venture Feb 22, 2018, 11:09 PM

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@heavy imp And what about give us the error ? how can we help you without that

velvet path Feb 22, 2018, 11:16 PM

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https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/400584365433683969/416353593713623040/20180222115821_1.jpg

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He's workin now >;3c

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Thanks to @pseudo silo for the assist!

tall marten Feb 22, 2018, 11:40 PM

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http://prntscr.com/iiixw8

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how can i fix this

oblique venture Feb 22, 2018, 11:42 PM

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https://imgur.com/a/PgcRU My bones are inversed , wtf how I can fix that please

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tall marten Feb 22, 2018, 11:42 PM

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just rename them

velvet path Feb 22, 2018, 11:45 PM

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@jade ibex in blender, you can rename them. In unity, you can just go into the rig menu, and select the opposite bone

oblique venture Feb 22, 2018, 11:49 PM

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oh god thank you it's fixed !

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https://imgur.com/VnD9Whx hum

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random lotus Feb 23, 2018, 12:20 AM

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Ok i asked this late last night but wtf so after i mapped his hands his thumb becomes all jacked up, if it helps, he was originally holding a handgun which i deleted in blender https://image.prntscr.com/image/K2STTZiyS1azrjnxZ7BQSQ.png

velvet path Feb 23, 2018, 12:49 AM

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Can you show us the jacked hand in Unity?

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Cause I remember having a similar issue with my Revenant model's right hand, because Unity was enforcing a TPose on the hand that caused the fingers to bend into themselves

random lotus Feb 23, 2018, 12:51 AM

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@velvet path it does it on both of his hands i think

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and and i thankfully have guntz (the character the model is of) already pulled up in unity because i was working on applying animations to him

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http://prntscr.com/iijl8l it looks like it does it on both hands

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also it is in unity

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oooooo

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i think i seee why now

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http://prntscr.com/iijlm6 one of the thumb parts isin't mapped

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Actually that had nothing to do with it

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i honestly think it has something to do with the handguns i removed

velvet path Feb 23, 2018, 12:55 AM

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Im not sure I understand the issue

random lotus Feb 23, 2018, 12:55 AM

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his thumbs become wierdly out of place once i enforce him into a t-pose

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and i can;t figure out why

velvet path Feb 23, 2018, 12:56 AM

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It looks fine to me?

random lotus Feb 23, 2018, 12:56 AM

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http://prntscr.com/iijmma

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velvet path Feb 23, 2018, 12:56 AM

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I think

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That's more of a limitation of the model, because the edge from thumb to base of hand

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Isn't weight painted to the thumb base bone

random lotus Feb 23, 2018, 12:57 AM

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but when its outside the t-pose, its fine

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http://prntscr.com/iijmsz

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velvet path Feb 23, 2018, 12:57 AM

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Do me a fav

random lotus Feb 23, 2018, 12:57 AM

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hm?

velvet path Feb 23, 2018, 12:57 AM

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Rotate the thumb outward

random lotus Feb 23, 2018, 12:58 AM

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http://prntscr.com/iijn47 like that?

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velvet path Feb 23, 2018, 12:58 AM

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Yes

random lotus Feb 23, 2018, 12:58 AM

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i think it might be since i removed the guns but never removed the bone i think

velvet path Feb 23, 2018, 12:58 AM

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It's a model issue

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The base thumb bone

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is not weight painted to the bottom of the hand

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Thus you get that issue

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You need to apply the weight paint to the rest of the hand in blender

random lotus Feb 23, 2018, 1:01 AM

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okkkkaayyyy sooo having the handguns

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http://prntscr.com/iijo05 makes it ALOT worse

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his thumb just looks broken now xD

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it never used to do that

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http://prntscr.com/iijo8p the other one doesn't look as bad

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arctic matrix Feb 23, 2018, 1:02 AM

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ok i found a avatar where a piece of the outfit is transparent but in unity it is solid anyone know how to make it transparent

random lotus Feb 23, 2018, 1:02 AM

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xD i never noticed this issue with the thumbs till recently

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@arctic matrix im actually there with ya

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http://prntscr.com/iijogs his goggles are supposed to be transparent

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but they always show up as solid

arctic matrix Feb 23, 2018, 1:03 AM

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i also looking into outfit swaps right now

random lotus Feb 23, 2018, 1:03 AM

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and i can't figure out how to get it to work

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god this model has more issues than i remember it having when i imported it the first time

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broken thumbs, transparent texture issues

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going throught the floor

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@velvet path i also found that unmapping his thumbs fixed the issue too

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http://prntscr.com/iijpbn they're back to the way they were in blender and before i opened the config menu

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http://prntscr.com/iijpol then theres this

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one seems like really far off from the rest

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that or it may do that so it's possible for people to model his hand to grip onto the gun

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http://prntscr.com/iijqbl i may just leave his thumbs unmapped

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elder crescent Feb 23, 2018, 1:18 AM

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does anybody know why i am unable to move my bones in Pose Mode?

fading verge Feb 23, 2018, 2:27 AM

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There should be a button in the armature tab. It's next to the rest pose button or w/e @elder crescent

gusty zephyr Feb 23, 2018, 2:40 AM

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my rig on a model doesn't have fingertip bone (2 bones per finger), so I subdivided the bone into 2 parts. How do I spread the weights automatically? Cuz I will get tired from manually coloring 10 fingers

lunar orchid Feb 23, 2018, 4:32 AM

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Is it possible to rig a non humanoid figure as a humanoid/generic and use the arms n such?

fading verge Feb 23, 2018, 4:41 AM

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@lunar orchid you sort of can? You'd still need to have a humanoid armature. Just rig the models arms etc to the arm bones etc and then remove any other weight paints on the rest of the body. Assign them in unity and it should work.

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Like if you have a chracter with no legs, do have the bones for them for the rig, just remove any of the weight paint nearby.

lunar orchid Feb 23, 2018, 4:47 AM

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I'm trying to rig up a zergling, which I guess Is like a flattend t-rexish shape

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http://i64.tinypic.com/ne6nis.jpg

orchid shale Feb 23, 2018, 5:44 AM

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So one of my characters has deformed arms and legs and it turns out they weren't properly weight painted, so I weight painted them but they still look deformed(as if nothing changed) in movement, what did i do wrong?

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https://imgur.com/0VWdZVu

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chilly heart Feb 23, 2018, 5:52 AM

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so i got a question........
i am trying to make an avatar, with a jojo stand behind it. I would like the stand to move along with me, and mimic my movements while it stays behind me
I have seen this done before but i just haven't figured out how to replicate yet
you guys got any ideas?

fading verge Feb 23, 2018, 5:54 AM

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Oh

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Someone asked this earlier

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I think you need to scroll up the chat here to find them

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hey i cut some body parts and exported them to unity and when i upload and then click cancel they turn invisible , yes i checked the box

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does anybody knows how to fix it

cloud kiln Feb 23, 2018, 7:45 AM

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you checked the box?

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Mah boi

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@fading verge

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Sounds like a Materials issue mah dude

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Highlight all the materials and make them "Opaque"

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I suggest installing Cubeds Unity Shaders

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And then making them Opaque and Tinted

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Or maybe Coloured, depends on what you prefer of course.

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If it doesn't work, feel free to PM me. And I'll try to help you out

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But from what it sounds like, it sounds like a Materials issue

naive tree Feb 23, 2018, 11:13 AM

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@orchid shale you have additional bones inbetween that u need to mix weight

indigo fiber Feb 23, 2018, 12:54 PM

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https://i.imgur.com/2EwxcJe.png

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is this how ikchains work

pine harbor Feb 23, 2018, 1:10 PM

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it looks like the IK chains are doing what they're meant to according to the system -- it's probably more that the IK chain isn't set up the way you want it to behave, if it's going to that super weird yoga pose >_>;

indigo fiber Feb 23, 2018, 1:10 PM

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https://i.imgur.com/ujdCrvg.png

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she's also spinning

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really really fast

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on the bright side i quite like how the dynamic bones came out

pine harbor Feb 23, 2018, 1:11 PM

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if she's spinning or twitching a lot, that's probably the game rapidly changing its mind about what the correct IK solution is for whatever position her other bones are getting forced into

indigo fiber Feb 23, 2018, 1:12 PM

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don't worry, i'm a professional

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i just break a lot of things in the process

pine harbor Feb 23, 2018, 1:12 PM

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^rigging/programming life right there 😛

indigo fiber Feb 23, 2018, 1:13 PM

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her torso is slowly rotating like a helicopter blade

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i may need an exorcist

pine harbor Feb 23, 2018, 1:13 PM

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she'd make a fine beyblade...

indigo fiber Feb 23, 2018, 1:15 PM

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someone gave me a heart

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okay i think i fixed it

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good lord no i did not

sick oasis Feb 23, 2018, 1:19 PM

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Can I add a new mesh to an existing rigged model (like hands) by just parenting empty groups then weight paining all the hand bones individually without losing my other paints for the rest of the body?

indigo fiber Feb 23, 2018, 1:25 PM

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seems unity flips the pelvis upside down for no apparent reason

naive tree Feb 23, 2018, 1:35 PM

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@indigo fiber hips need to be pointing upwards ^

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and spine has to be above hips level

indigo fiber Feb 23, 2018, 1:35 PM

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they are

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it gets flipped in unity for no apparent reason

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sitting almost fixes it surprisingly

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almost

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https://i.imgur.com/tucWVZx.png

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uh

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apparently i broke my model to the point i even broke my menu

keen sigil Feb 23, 2018, 3:35 PM

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for weight painting, I assume the head bone is mostly handling left-right rotation and tilt while the neck is handling up-down movement?

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trying to weight paint something weird and blobular.

pearl cargo Feb 23, 2018, 3:45 PM

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well

indigo fiber Feb 23, 2018, 3:51 PM

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it's usually not really rotation specific entirely

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the neck is just the cervical section of the spine between the thoraccic spine and lumbar

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just a standard blend

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looking around is mostly head rotations but the neck frequently has minor rotations while doing so

vernal birch Feb 23, 2018, 6:55 PM

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Could the visemes not working anymore be cause I'm on an older version of the VRCSDK?

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Cause the visemes no longer work

oblique venture Feb 23, 2018, 7:30 PM

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https://imgur.com/a/U3XFq "Thumb, index, and middle finger bones are no mapped" It's a mixamo skeleton, why I got this error ?

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oblique venture Feb 23, 2018, 8:26 PM

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oh thank you !

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@fading verge

ruby depot Feb 23, 2018, 9:27 PM

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The heck. I broke my avatar in some weird way. After I stop moving forward, my avatar does a hip thrust

pale pelican Feb 23, 2018, 10:04 PM

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https://i.gyazo.com/f57468638c520d15a2b95055707213c0.png

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I'm trying to connect a head on a body but I don't know how to do it

junior dust Feb 23, 2018, 10:26 PM

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When I send my avatar using unity the following error "updating content.asset bundle upload failed. failed to upload" appears.
Anyone know how to solve this?
I already told you that it was the server but this problem has been happening for more than 2 weeks.

random lotus Feb 23, 2018, 10:29 PM

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@pale pelican OOOOO PRIMARINA 😄

pale pelican Feb 23, 2018, 10:30 PM

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Yep ❤

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@junior dust Is the SDK up to date ?

junior dust Feb 23, 2018, 10:30 PM

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yes

pale pelican Feb 23, 2018, 10:31 PM

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Hm, that's really weird

junior dust Feb 23, 2018, 10:31 PM

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I also turned off future proofing as they directed me but it did not work

pale pelican Feb 23, 2018, 10:32 PM

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Wish I could help you, I never got this error before :c

junior dust Feb 23, 2018, 10:32 PM

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ok

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ty

pale pelican Feb 23, 2018, 10:33 PM

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I have TeamViewer if anyone knows what I should do for the model

indigo fiber Feb 23, 2018, 10:54 PM

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what were you trying to do again

pale pelican Feb 23, 2018, 11:01 PM

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Make an human Primarina

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@indigo fiber Since Primarina doesn't have legs x)

indigo fiber Feb 23, 2018, 11:02 PM

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as in what specific changes were you trying to make to the model?

pale pelican Feb 23, 2018, 11:03 PM

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Adding Primarina's head on a body

indigo fiber Feb 23, 2018, 11:03 PM

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did you have another mesh you were trying to slap on?

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ah

pale pelican Feb 23, 2018, 11:03 PM

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Well, I joined the meshes but I'm not sure it's perfect

indigo fiber Feb 23, 2018, 11:04 PM

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i don't really know much about pokemon but it looks like he or she has a neck frill you can use to hide the seam

pale pelican Feb 23, 2018, 11:04 PM

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And the model is originally naked so I have to put clothes, but I have absolutely no idea on how to do it

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Yeah

indigo fiber Feb 23, 2018, 11:05 PM

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what program are you using?

pale pelican Feb 23, 2018, 11:05 PM

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Blender

indigo fiber Feb 23, 2018, 11:06 PM

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ah poo

pale pelican Feb 23, 2018, 11:06 PM

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What do you use ? x)

indigo fiber Feb 23, 2018, 11:06 PM

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i'm seemingly one of the only people using 3ds max

pale pelican Feb 23, 2018, 11:06 PM

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Ah

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I can send you the models if you want

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I just need to convert it to fbx since it's a MMD model

feral oracle Feb 23, 2018, 11:13 PM

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Does anyone know why my avatar's feet get pushed together like this during the idle animation? https://gyazo.com/e038057c655696d949edbcfdbeaf9ec6

Gyazo

indigo fiber Feb 23, 2018, 11:14 PM

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what does it look like with bones?

feral oracle Feb 23, 2018, 11:19 PM

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This is it's skeleton currently https://gyazo.com/8af43f0495c32d8b00492445a05e6944

Gyazo

indigo fiber Feb 23, 2018, 11:26 PM

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his feet are simple enough that you could always override the location of the bone in unity through the skeleton config

pale pelican Feb 23, 2018, 11:27 PM

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@indigo fiber Do you want me to send the Primarina MMD model ?

indigo fiber Feb 23, 2018, 11:29 PM

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just about everybody else that isn't me uses blender, i'm sure they can walk you through it so you're not stumped again next time

primal river Feb 24, 2018, 12:59 AM

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HMM

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https://i.imgur.com/LkIt4Ta.png

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so right here his mouth is closed.

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https://i.imgur.com/9LzUGyC.png

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mucles viewing shows it open

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and in vrchat

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https://gfycat.com/GregariousDistinctAlaskanhusky

Gfycat

olyyy_

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it moves like this

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i have no idea what to move or fix

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can someone please provide some leads?

odd tulip Feb 24, 2018, 1:14 AM

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When you enter play mode is it's mouth open in unity?

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I had a problem where this exact thing happened. I had to rotate the jaw to compensate in the rig configuration

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@primal river

primal river Feb 24, 2018, 1:16 AM

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?

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put him on play mode while viewing mucles?

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@odd tulip

odd tulip Feb 24, 2018, 1:17 AM

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play mode just in the scene normaly not the muscle view

primal river Feb 24, 2018, 1:17 AM

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oh lol

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lemme make a gif

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in the mean time i put it on play mode while viewing muscles lol

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https://gfycat.com/BlondRepulsiveLadybird

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here

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hold on

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allright making new gif

odd tulip Feb 24, 2018, 1:18 AM

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Yea so you need to rotate the jaw bone in the rig config enough to overcome the amount it's open

primal river Feb 24, 2018, 1:19 AM

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https://gfycat.com/SophisticatedHarmfulArizonaalligatorlizard

Gfycat

olyyy_

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so yeah in normal scene play mode its closed

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but then on vrchat its open

odd tulip Feb 24, 2018, 1:19 AM

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oh

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hmm

primal river Feb 24, 2018, 1:20 AM

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🤔

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indeed

odd tulip Feb 24, 2018, 1:20 AM

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I'd still try rotating the jaw. This is what mine looks like in the rig config https://i.gyazo.com/c631fc4e4cc6823abb7dcdcf29cb445d.png but in game it looks perfect

primal river Feb 24, 2018, 1:20 AM

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oh god

odd tulip Feb 24, 2018, 1:20 AM

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yea it looks really dumb in that view

primal river Feb 24, 2018, 1:20 AM

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lol

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i mean no like

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https://i.imgur.com/LkIt4Ta.png

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this is rig mode

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its closed!

odd tulip Feb 24, 2018, 1:21 AM

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mine was too

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i closed it even more

primal river Feb 24, 2018, 1:21 AM

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oh you mean like more than it has right now?

odd tulip Feb 24, 2018, 1:22 AM

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yea enough until it looks right in game

primal river Feb 24, 2018, 1:22 AM

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hmm...

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maybe i can just double the rotation value i already have

odd tulip Feb 24, 2018, 1:23 AM

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it's weird that it doesn't show open in play mode though

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do you have a gesture override set as the controller of your animator?

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that's probably why it doesn't show if u don't

primal river Feb 24, 2018, 1:24 AM

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uuh.

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https://gfycat.com/FlawlessYearlyArrowcrab

Gfycat

olyyy_

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@odd tulip yea doubling the value was no bueno lol

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a gesture override?

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no its just the simple avatar controler

odd tulip Feb 24, 2018, 1:28 AM

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I was actually rotating the bone not editing the muscle limits or whatever

primal river Feb 24, 2018, 1:28 AM

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no yeah yeah

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i did that lol

odd tulip Feb 24, 2018, 1:29 AM

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did you look at it in game?

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cause it's going to look really dumb in the bone view but it looks fine in game for me

primal river Feb 24, 2018, 1:29 AM

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hmm

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well hold on leme try to upload it then

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https://i.imgur.com/W03l9vM.jpg

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there we go got it boys

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thank yoou! @odd tulip

fading verge Feb 24, 2018, 2:30 AM

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i like the reverse engineered solution you guys came up with xD

random lotus Feb 24, 2018, 3:12 AM

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http://prntscr.com/iizzyp can someone help me weight this thing properly? ive been at it for a few hours now

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please?

primal river Feb 24, 2018, 3:19 AM

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@fading verge lol you know it

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oh jesus @random lotus

indigo fiber Feb 24, 2018, 3:20 AM

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i don't use blender so i can't really do specifics but i can give general help if you can't find anybody

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it's been a while but i used to rig and weight all of my models myself when i did work in source

random lotus Feb 24, 2018, 3:22 AM

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@primal river yeah, a thing meant to take 3 hours takes all day xD

fading verge Feb 24, 2018, 3:22 AM

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@random lotus look up a weightpainting tutorial

random lotus Feb 24, 2018, 3:23 AM

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i was told to go the the vertex groups for his arms

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but idk what to do from there

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hes already weight painted'

indigo fiber Feb 24, 2018, 3:26 AM

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that model in particular might take less than 3 hours but weightmapping can take quite a while if you want it to be anatomically correct and if it's a high poly complex model

random lotus Feb 24, 2018, 3:27 AM

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well it was already weight painted on the fur parts

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all that really needed it was the dress n stuff

indigo fiber Feb 24, 2018, 3:28 AM

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so you need to weight paint the dress?

random lotus Feb 24, 2018, 3:42 AM

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i might

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but imma do that shit tommorow

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im tired af

crimson vine Feb 24, 2018, 6:11 AM

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HEY I have a non-humanoid model with a rig and I want to change its default pose but doing so in blender is kinda cranky with shape keys

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Can you set a pose as a permanent pose for non-humanoid characters in Unity?

cloud kiln Feb 24, 2018, 6:21 AM

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Due to that many animated beings in Unity games being developed into non-humanoid characters that would be entirely possible yes.
But I'd recommend doing it in Blender.

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@crimson vine

crimson vine Feb 24, 2018, 7:04 AM

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Thanks 😂 Shape keys won't let me do it in blender sadly [cries]

lament turret Feb 24, 2018, 7:29 AM

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Is there a proper method to prevent the lower arms from twisting in/outwards during hand tracking?

brisk mesa Feb 24, 2018, 7:43 AM

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You check in blender for if the bones have roll?

lament turret Feb 24, 2018, 7:45 AM

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my problem is that in vrchat, whenever i twist my hand, the lower arm follows, to undesirable results
im hoping theres a way to disable that entirely, i have seen it on other avatars, and my attempts to do it dont seem to work

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https://prnt.sc/ij1q5l
to hopefully keep joints like this from breaking this way

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modifying the humanoid rig only seems to keep it from happening in animations, but not hand tracking

digital willow Feb 24, 2018, 8:49 AM

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so rigging is what I should do when I wanna replace body parts?

pine harbor Feb 24, 2018, 8:54 AM

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i would assume so, though the term "rigging" is pretty broad; according to the blender manual:

"Rigging is a general term used for adding controls to objects, typically for the purpose of animation."

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so if we're not talking about getting a model imported or editing the shape of the mesh, it's probably all mostly rigging?

fickle plover Feb 24, 2018, 9:18 AM

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Anyone have a quick hotfix for your avatar being stuck in the floor?

pine harbor Feb 24, 2018, 9:26 AM

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go to your humanoid rig window, and see if your avatar's feet are below the ground in there

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easiest way of seeing that is to hit the white square box in the top-right of the 3D view to make the view appear in a sort of "flat 2D" state, and then click one of the arrows on the side of that box to snap the camera so that it aligns with an axis, which will bring up a grid behind you

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if the bottom of your model's mesh is going through a thicker horizontal line on the grid, that'll be why -- just select your hip or root bone in that window and adjust its position until your feet aren't sinking through the ground

fickle plover Feb 24, 2018, 9:45 AM

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Most helpful advice ever, tysm omg

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Hmm, funny enough, Even doing that didnt seem to fix it

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Ah... I see what might be happening

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The model is stuck in the muscle pose, since i put a custom animation on it, however, i made sure to do it properly by putting it on a dummy model first, so i'm a bit confused

pine harbor Feb 24, 2018, 9:54 AM

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hmm, i've had it do that weird crouching muscle pose thing if i exit the humanoid rig window while it's in the muscle pose thing

fickle plover Feb 24, 2018, 9:54 AM

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Seems like the model only goes into muscle pose when i attach the animation override controller

pine harbor Feb 24, 2018, 9:54 AM

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can you try making another prefab and assigning the animation to that one instead?

fickle plover Feb 24, 2018, 9:54 AM

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otherwise it operates fine

pine harbor Feb 24, 2018, 9:54 AM

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weird o_O

fickle plover Feb 24, 2018, 9:54 AM

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very

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never had this happen

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not only that, but the override is kind of a preview of what it'll do in VRC

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so at least im dodging bullets on not having to upload

pine harbor Feb 24, 2018, 9:56 AM

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are you using the templates from the SDK for the animator controller and override controller?

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it usually doesn't change the pose for me when the override controller's given to the avatar descriptor and animator, hmm...weird unity

fickle plover Feb 24, 2018, 9:57 AM

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very lol

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so strange... a blank slate override works fine

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and yes, that's the one i'm using

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it must just not like my anims?

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not sude

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sure*

pine harbor Feb 24, 2018, 9:59 AM

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only thing i can say is...for a program named "unity", its behaviour is pretty bloody inconsistent =_=

fickle plover Feb 24, 2018, 9:59 AM

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ahahahaaa

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truth

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well, lets see how this uploads

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she's only 3000 tris so the upload isnt a headache at all

hardy oxide Feb 24, 2018, 10:01 AM

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https://imgur.com/a/Xpknt can someone help me with this? my arm doesn't extend when i hold something

Imgur

fickle plover Feb 24, 2018, 10:04 AM

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i love using low poly models for my test subjects..

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SUCCCEESSSSS

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errrr,,,

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https://imgur.com/9M8xfSw

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serene stone Feb 24, 2018, 11:21 AM

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hello how to fix bad knees? (inwards, cause is from mmd_tools 0.6.0, need a fix)

odd tulip Feb 24, 2018, 11:38 AM

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I think you can mess with the leg spacing in the rig config

serene stone Feb 24, 2018, 11:38 AM

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in blender?

odd tulip Feb 24, 2018, 12:25 PM

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unity

serene stone Feb 24, 2018, 12:26 PM

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oh okay

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i'll see if i can match it to the working rig

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thanks

fading verge Feb 24, 2018, 1:33 PM

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MA duds

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i need some help

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when i weight paint a mesh to a bone it does attach but it floats somewhere else where i dont want it

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any idea how i fix this?

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@ me

naive tree Feb 24, 2018, 1:42 PM

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the mesh probably has weight on other bone, so it's gets stuck inbetween

unborn sapphire Feb 24, 2018, 2:47 PM

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I have a problem where when I look down the body get dragged upward and the character stand on his toes

royal glen Feb 24, 2018, 3:52 PM

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Can anyone tell me how these map to the F1-F8 gesture shortcuts because the announcement used completely different names for some of these...

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https://i.imgur.com/mwvdoc8.png

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Like Peace? What's that, doesn't exist here.

torn locust Feb 24, 2018, 4:02 PM

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peace = victory

sinful sundial Feb 24, 2018, 4:20 PM

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Hey there guys

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So I have a bit of an uncommon question

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How would one go about rigging a 4-armed avatar?

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assuming there are bones on all 4 of the arms

hazy knot Feb 24, 2018, 4:24 PM

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Unity only has one slot for each arm bone, so you'd have two dead arms. Might be a way to link them to the active bones.

sinful sundial Feb 24, 2018, 4:49 PM

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Hmm

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how about a character with only a single arm?

sinful sundial Feb 24, 2018, 5:07 PM

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anyone?

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my avatar only has a right arm

safe bluff Feb 24, 2018, 5:08 PM

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add both arms and their corresponding bones, but dont weight paint the missing arm's bones to anything

sinful sundial Feb 24, 2018, 5:08 PM

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how would I do that in blender?

fading verge Feb 24, 2018, 5:09 PM

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I have a unity problem where when i enter the bone config some parts of the body turn 180 degrees, pm me if you know a solution

hazy knot Feb 24, 2018, 5:51 PM

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@sinful sundial Does your model not have bones for the left arm at all?

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@fading verge What happens if you enforce T-Pose?

sinful sundial Feb 24, 2018, 6:04 PM

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@hazy knot nope! I found a solution though, I did what Feet said and made a "fake" left arm

hazy knot Feb 24, 2018, 6:11 PM

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Yeah just a dummy bone set would work

young hill Feb 24, 2018, 6:45 PM

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I have a problem. So in blender i've been seperating a model in two meshes. after editing them i have merged them again. But as i import them in unity, they're seperated again. The body meshes should be one, but they aren't apperiantly. https://i.imgur.com/qtI55lB.png

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hazy knot Feb 24, 2018, 6:46 PM

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How many polys does the model have?

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^

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correct

young hill Feb 24, 2018, 6:48 PM

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Hm, alright. Ima try around abit more

fading verge Feb 24, 2018, 7:08 PM

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My avatar has a successful upload but doesnt appear ingame
PM me if you know the solution

night spear Feb 24, 2018, 8:18 PM

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Doesn't appear as in menu or doesn't appear when you look into a mirror/look down?

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Do any of you know anything about 3DS Max? I need help 😦

fading verge Feb 24, 2018, 9:35 PM

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@royal glen F2 fist ; F3 hand open ; F4 finger point ; F5 victory ; F6 rocknroll ; F7 handgun ; F8 thumbs up

graceful glade Feb 24, 2018, 9:39 PM

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@fading verge nobody has the solution ATM it's a server wide bug

fading verge Feb 24, 2018, 10:00 PM

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lol someone else fixed it for me tho

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just remove blueprint ID

rustic venture Feb 25, 2018, 1:37 AM

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I uploaded a model, but the materials separate in my arms when I move around in game... When I pose in blender it's fine so I don't think it's a weight painting issue, and when I use the muscle animator in unity it's fine too

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https://imgur.com/a/lQILs

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My meshes are properly joined. I atlased 2 materials separately which I've done successfully many times in the past

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but they just don't move together in game

shy gull Feb 25, 2018, 1:50 AM

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anyone have any good methods for weight painting a skirt?

high nova Feb 25, 2018, 2:21 AM

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Could someone help, my characters hands texture doesn't move when I rotate it

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https://i.imgur.com/VBTg2L4.png

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cinder iris Feb 25, 2018, 2:22 AM

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looks like a weight issue

high nova Feb 25, 2018, 2:24 AM

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hmm I've tried weight painting it but it doesn't work either :/

cinder iris Feb 25, 2018, 2:27 AM

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what does it look like when you're weight painting it? does it stay in place regardless?

gloomy loom Feb 25, 2018, 3:44 AM

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has anyone had this issue

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https://imgur.com/a/BoxMt

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when rigging an avatar

feral stone Feb 25, 2018, 3:49 AM

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https://i.gyazo.com/e3fb36b8d57328b4cb7aa2ba64f34787.jpg Is there specific way I should place these colliders for the breasts?

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Also, when I move, the breast pop out of the sweater? How do I fix this. And last, seems kinda small. but while in VRchat, my arms are always bent

brisk mesa Feb 25, 2018, 4:17 AM

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Sounds like you have two meshes to deal with there, one is the body and one is the sweater so you need to make sure the weights for each are the exact same

gloomy loom Feb 25, 2018, 4:19 AM

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or delete the one underneath

tall marten Feb 25, 2018, 4:24 AM

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http://prntscr.com/ije0wm my model is badly broken please help

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royal glen Feb 25, 2018, 4:49 AM

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Thanks much @fading verge

real kernel Feb 25, 2018, 5:01 AM

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so uh

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does jaw flap work now

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I really don't want to make visemes for the character I'm making

brisk mesa Feb 25, 2018, 5:05 AM

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It was broken?

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I thought people mostly had issues with their eye bones affecting jaw mesh but that's their fault xD

real kernel Feb 25, 2018, 5:24 AM

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I haven't been able to make it work

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I've got a Woody avatar with a jaw bone

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and it just hangs there

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agape

glad egret Feb 25, 2018, 5:46 AM

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does it matter if my model's dress bones are pointing up?

devout pivot Feb 25, 2018, 5:47 AM

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Okay, obscure question, i have a model, that has three arms (one to the right side, lets call it A, two to the left, call them B and C) And i vant the top one to the left (B) to copy the movemtn of the right (A).

brisk mesa Feb 25, 2018, 7:02 AM

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idk cause i would just weightpaint the top one to copy the movement of the -left- if they're both left side. but i have no idea if one arm is on the opposite side.

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also bone constraints apparently do not import into unity so that's a no-go from all the times i've seen somebody ask about rigging a JoJo Stand, aka two separate skeletons

devout pivot Feb 25, 2018, 7:15 AM

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😦 aw, i guess i just have to make the top arm be floppy whit dynmicbones

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wont look as i wanted but its something.

ionic bear Feb 25, 2018, 7:21 AM

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Well, at least if someone asks you, why your hand is so wibbly wobbly, you can always say that you have slept on it and you lost control over it

devout pivot Feb 25, 2018, 7:28 AM

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XD

sinful sundial Feb 25, 2018, 10:03 AM

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@real kernel Yeah I've had that issue with Jaw flap too, it's a VRchat bug I think

charred merlin Feb 25, 2018, 10:21 AM

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https://imgur.com/x1A7DRV Can anyone tell me what's wrong with my legs ? 😅

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brisk mesa Feb 25, 2018, 11:08 AM

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too far to tell, move up more?

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also i guess i can't really tell anyway even if you did, i'd need to see a video of it like you walking, idling, running around

charred merlin Feb 25, 2018, 11:16 AM

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alright give me a minute

vagrant ferry Feb 25, 2018, 12:58 PM

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Guys do anyone know how to make 2 model combining together and both of them can move, eye tracking?

normal blaze Feb 25, 2018, 1:03 PM

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The model I want to use has nno neck bone - Do you guys thinnk it would be fine if i made a neck bone between the head and chest and didn't bother weight painting it, just parented it correctly?

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dunno if it would do anything weird

glad egret Feb 25, 2018, 1:07 PM

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@normal blaze it needs to be weighted

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just make the neck red (with the painting) and it wont work badly

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also move it around so you can catch any unpainted parts

opal aurora Feb 25, 2018, 1:09 PM

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If it has no neck to begin with, you can have it weightless, but if it does have one, it's advisable to weight it

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Otherwise you'll have some funky clipping

normal blaze Feb 25, 2018, 1:11 PM

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https://puu.sh/zvkl4.png he doesn't really have a neck so guess I'll try weightless

glad egret Feb 25, 2018, 1:12 PM

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vrpill

night spear Feb 25, 2018, 2:03 PM

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tororo

fading verge Feb 25, 2018, 2:23 PM

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Does anyone knows what causes this problem to pop up, even if you mapped all the required bones right?
I was working on the xps model
https://imgur.com/a/zpDi6
Followed the guide to proper bone hierarchy, with only a few duplicates added to use as dynamic bones.
https://imgur.com/a/ujkxS
Everything seems to be working properly in unity, but I still can't load the model because the hierarchy is "Missing elements"
https://imgur.com/a/bCE2W

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https://imgur.com/a/kuWRk

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novel wharf Feb 25, 2018, 2:36 PM

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So... um.. has the Unity/SDK versions changed since a couple months ago?

night spear Feb 25, 2018, 2:37 PM

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I can't see the shoulder bone there

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it did

fading verge Feb 25, 2018, 2:37 PM

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The model had no shoulder bones

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Any way to add shoulder bones?

red thistle Feb 25, 2018, 2:38 PM

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i've had this problem for 2 months

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kinda gave up

novel wharf Feb 25, 2018, 2:38 PM

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What versions of Unity/SDK do we need now?

fading verge Feb 25, 2018, 2:39 PM

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VRCSDK-2018.01.26.13.13_Public

novel wharf Feb 25, 2018, 2:39 PM

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Still the same Unity version?

fading verge Feb 25, 2018, 2:39 PM

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yeah

novel wharf Feb 25, 2018, 2:40 PM

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So you still need a non-steam account or have they updated that?

fading verge Feb 25, 2018, 2:40 PM

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you need a vrchat login, yes

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to access your sdk

novel wharf Feb 25, 2018, 2:40 PM

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Alright. Thank you.

fading verge Feb 25, 2018, 2:42 PM

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Could adding extra bones to a xps model work?

hazy knot Feb 25, 2018, 2:45 PM

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You can add or remove bones to any model in blender/3DSM. The question would be: for what purpose?

fading verge Feb 25, 2018, 2:47 PM

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To create a shoulder bones, so I could use them for mapping in unity

night spear Feb 25, 2018, 2:52 PM

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yeah

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just create empty weighted shoulder bones

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should be enough

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in Blender, press E in the tip of a bone. that'll create another bone there

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I really recommend activating X mirror so it duplicates what you're doing on the other side

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after you click symmetrize

fading verge Feb 25, 2018, 2:56 PM

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Could the creation of each shoulder bone seperately cause consequences?

night spear Feb 25, 2018, 2:56 PM

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I don't think so, but it surely wouldn't look as good

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https://pasteboard.co/H9hVS1D.png

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can someone help me? I joined the lips and mouth meshes and for some reason this makes the texture disappear in one of the two

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it's random which one goes away

hazy knot Feb 25, 2018, 3:10 PM

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Are you in 3DSM still or have you come to the dark side?

night spear Feb 25, 2018, 3:11 PM

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I'm in Blender lol

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A friend of mine found a way to use these models with Blender

hazy knot Feb 25, 2018, 3:11 PM

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Why did you join the meshes? You should only have them split for decimation, then use CATS to rejoin them all into one single mesh.

night spear Feb 25, 2018, 3:12 PM

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This model already comes split up, as each mesh uses a different texture

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if I rejoin it using CATS, then it's UV Mapping gets all messy

hazy knot Feb 25, 2018, 3:13 PM

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Hmm... Does each mesh have a material assigned with just a single texture?

night spear Feb 25, 2018, 3:14 PM

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yep, some of them have the same texture

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for example, hands and arms use the same texture, and lips and mouth too

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that's why I find this to be so weird

hazy knot Feb 25, 2018, 3:14 PM

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Are the names of each mesh's UV map different?

night spear Feb 25, 2018, 3:14 PM

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Uhh I'm not sure really

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where can you see the name of the UV maps?

hazy knot Feb 25, 2018, 3:15 PM

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If you name them the exact same thing and combine the meshes, it should work. I believe it's on the materials or data tab.

night spear Feb 25, 2018, 3:16 PM

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they're both named the same thing I believe

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except for the material, as I don't know how to use the same material at two different meshes

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so every time I add a new material and rename it to the texture it's supposed to have, it gets a number in front of it

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(so like, I have 10 "face" materials for example)

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all of them using the same texture

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LOL nevermind, I think I found out how to add already existing materials to a mesh
damn I'm dumb

hazy knot Feb 25, 2018, 3:20 PM

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I know how to fix that, but it's a bit involved. Switch to edit mode, pick a material and click "Select" below the materials box. This should select the verts which are assigned to that material. Select all the material sections that use the same texture, then once you have them all, click on the material slot you want them to all fall under and click "Assign". Afterward you should be able to switch out of edit mode and remove all the other duplicate materials.

night spear Feb 25, 2018, 3:20 PM

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I'm gonna try that

hazy knot Feb 25, 2018, 3:21 PM

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I believe the UV map is under the tab to the left of materials. Should be Data. Check the names on that before you rejoin the meshes.

night spear Feb 25, 2018, 3:22 PM

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Just checked, they have different names

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renaming them to the same thing seems to have worked

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Thanks so much!

fading verge Feb 25, 2018, 5:15 PM

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@night spear I created shoulder bones, following your instructions, but unity doesn't see them at all

night spear Feb 25, 2018, 5:17 PM

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did you parented them to the arm bones?

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and to the chest bone?

fading verge Feb 25, 2018, 5:19 PM

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Yes

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I parented arms to shoulders and shoulders to the chest

hazy knot Feb 25, 2018, 5:21 PM

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Show me your model in blender plus armature?

fading verge Feb 25, 2018, 5:21 PM

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One moment

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https://imgur.com/a/VTWBE

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hazy knot Feb 25, 2018, 5:29 PM

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Those are a different bone type than what unity uses

fading verge Feb 25, 2018, 5:30 PM

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They are, but I found a guide to using xps models for avatars

hazy knot Feb 25, 2018, 5:30 PM

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Technically it should still work though unless they're tip bones

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I'm not super familiar with XPS imports though. Anybody else?

fading verge Feb 25, 2018, 5:31 PM

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What exactly is tip bones?

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I worked with xps import a bit, although I still don't understand it's logic entierly

hazy knot Feb 25, 2018, 5:32 PM

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tip bones are just little tiny bones that mark the end of a bone line.

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generally used for breast bones so Dynamic bones have a bone to latch onto.

fading verge Feb 25, 2018, 5:33 PM

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Should shoulder bones have length?

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Right now they're basically tip bones

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I created them from the tip of the arm bone

sinful sundial Feb 25, 2018, 5:37 PM

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hey guys, so I rigged all the fingers for my 4-fingered avatar and ignored the ring finger bones

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this happens now: https://i.imgur.com/AFsNPgZ.jpg

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it was completely fine before, so I know the issue is with fingers

sinful sundial Feb 25, 2018, 6:13 PM

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anybody?

fading verge Feb 25, 2018, 6:13 PM

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@hazy knot Is subdividing an arm bone to create shoulder bone is a good idea?

hazy knot Feb 25, 2018, 6:15 PM

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@fading verge potentially, but keep in mind it will split the weights too most of the time.

sinful sundial Feb 25, 2018, 6:15 PM

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nobody else is having problems with fingers? 😦

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or previously had

lunar tartan Feb 25, 2018, 6:46 PM

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How are people able to decimate their models without much loss of quality? I barely managed to get under 20k and the hands have empty openings and spaces in them. That's also after sacrificing alot of stuff I wanted to keep to get it under. Yet, when I saw someone with a similar model, they have no missing or empty spots on them and they still had all the parts I had to get rid of to get it under 20k. How are they doing that?

sinful sundial Feb 25, 2018, 6:58 PM

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Okay, I managed to pin it down. Whenever I add ANY thumb bone, the avatar's arms just break. Anybody got advice?

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@lunar tartan maybe it's where you're getting the avatars that has too many tris

lunar tartan Feb 25, 2018, 7:00 PM

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@sinful sundial Well we had the same model, but his didn't lose quality and he got to keep his stuff on that I had to get rid of in order to get under 20k. There is only one source for it really.

hazy knot Feb 25, 2018, 7:02 PM

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@lunar tartan Use the planar decimate option instead of collapse whenever possible

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If you get models from the japanese sites (bowlroll/nicovideo) they are usually more optimized than those found on deviantart.

lunar tartan Feb 25, 2018, 7:03 PM

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I wasn't aware of a planer and collapse version

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I just thought it was decimate

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in general

hazy knot Feb 25, 2018, 7:04 PM

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It's part of manual decimation.

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The more work you're willing to put into a model, the better it will look in the end.

lunar tartan Feb 25, 2018, 7:05 PM

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I thought decimation was just a slider

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in blender

honest kettle Feb 25, 2018, 7:13 PM

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it is, but actually there are 3 methods

next prairie Feb 25, 2018, 7:13 PM

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Whenever I try to put the shoulders into the chest, the changes don't save

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Like make Chest the parent of shoulders

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Mixamo made the shoulders the parent of neck

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I need help

red thistle Feb 25, 2018, 7:21 PM

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@fading verge hey dude, where did you find this emil skin? this one seems to have all the textures right compared to what i have. you found it on Daviant art?

lusty magnet Feb 25, 2018, 7:27 PM

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uh oh

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i need help

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how do i reset my character back to t pose

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in unity

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T_T

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doing animations on it messed up the pose

honest kettle Feb 25, 2018, 7:36 PM

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thats why you should duplicate the model and use the duplicate to make animations

lime monolith Feb 25, 2018, 7:57 PM

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Does anyone know if Unity will let you use humanoid rigging if you skip bones? As in, having the elbow be the child of the child of the shoulder?

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Correction: As in, having the arm be the child of the child of the shoulder?

random lotus Feb 25, 2018, 8:29 PM

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http://prntscr.com/ijn6gr so i switched his hair model, can i keep the bones from the old ponytail or will i have to use the ones that came with the new hair model?

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versed apex Feb 25, 2018, 8:44 PM

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anyone has a video on how to take one character's clothes and slap it on another character?

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pls 😦

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need help

lone depot Feb 25, 2018, 8:47 PM

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are the meshes separated?

versed apex Feb 25, 2018, 8:59 PM

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im not sure how to do it exactly lol thats why i wanna learn how to do it

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its one tall ish character

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and one small ish character

next prairie Feb 25, 2018, 9:00 PM

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Everytime I change bone hiearchy, it switches back. 😐