avatar-rigging

[brisk mesa]

those are it

to see the tab of armature pop up, you need to select your whole thing in general in your list

[tawny zephyr]

then... wheres the Xray button?

[brisk mesa]

you definitely have bones right?

[tawny zephyr]

yeas

[brisk mesa]

yea idk then it should be there

[tawny zephyr]

oh i found it now

[brisk mesa]

xray and name checkboxes are under that "Display" thing yea

[tawny zephyr]

i thought you meant to click the little person in the hierarchy

so now how do i change it's length?

[brisk mesa]

select bone and mess with it, i imagine

[crude crag]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/390924372782612480/402245051394162703/guardswomanhand.PNG
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/390924372782612480/402245956642275338/guardswomanhand2.PNG
couple of pictures of my characters hands. advice?

trying to change the unity fingers bit on top

[tawny zephyr]

and then how do i export it so that the changes are saved?

wait... i'm editing the bone i think... but it doesn't look like it's affecting anything

[topaz dune]

@crude crag this is problem is so fitting for you name, make one more bone for the fingers, mabye it'll help

[brisk mesa]

i drag bones like this, after i make sure this bottom setting is correct. arrow is axis based, curve is like rotate, the right line with box is scaling. also i am in edit mode.

now to export your changes blender has export as fbx up top.

[tawny zephyr]

oh, i found out how to make the bone grow but now compared to the other bones it looks liek they're not there

[crude crag]

lmao glad i asked for someone to point that out niko

[tawny zephyr]

the other bones are just dotted lines

[topaz dune]

Tho i'm off for now, hope you guys get to fix your problem.

[crude crag]

thanks for helping those you could!

[brisk mesa]

dotted lines means those bones are i guess parented to some other bone. you can see what they are parented to in the bone tab settings or looking

so if you're missing bones you're gonna have to add them

[tawny zephyr]

thanks niko

ok mRage

[brisk mesa]

i like to add bones like um... i click the round joint at the end of any bone and i press E and start dragging.

[tawny zephyr]

if i export the model the changes will be saved right?

[brisk mesa]

it should yes

but um you should probably assign those bones some weight of your mesh

otherwise the new bone aint gonna move jackshit

that's why people here talk about weight painting btw

[tawny zephyr]

my model doesn't have a texture in blender, is that gonna affect unity?

[brisk mesa]

no cause if you have a texture you can just add it in unity

that's ok

[tawny zephyr]

ok

[tame skiff]

Parent eye bones to what? Head?

Neck?

[brisk mesa]

i parent those to head

parenting neck is weird lol

[tawny zephyr]

i don't know what i did wrong... how did this happen?
this doesn't happen with the model BEFORE i change the bone

[fading verge]

Where can I get someone to make me a avatar?

[tawny zephyr]

i want to know that as well

i'm terrible

[cerulean dawn]

anyone know why my character's feet are stuck in the floor, I tried moving the model up in blender and that didn't help

[vapid osprey]

question how come my avatars hand look like this in unity BUT my model in BLender looks fine?

i can "move" my models had in unity but will it stay int he palce if i move it? not sure what the problem is but all my hands were "connected"

hm..

was i supppose to get rid of those and parente them manuelly?

hm. i see.

alright i'll give it a go and ill update on my progress

[cerulean dawn]

ok so on my model the origin is fine and all but when I assign my bones in unity it shifts my character down to the point where it's feet are in the ground, any idea how to fix this?

[main sage]

is there a guide / vid somewhere about adding accesories to avis? i wanna put something on the back of this thing

[rare fjord]

would I have to rig this as humanoid in unity and figure out how to piece a rig in this model?

[fading verge]

is it going to have arms?

cause of how simple it is you might be better off just making a very basic walk animation and importing it as a generic

also im driving myself insane with this miia model http://puu.sh/z1Lxo.jpg

[main sage]

how would i attach an object to my avi in Unity?
like a hat or backpack

[turbid vault]

https://i.lewds.moe/5tUR5p.png

how do i fix the alpha

[fading verge]

Fixed it but I broke it again

Please help

[brisk mesa]

nice try on the miia model btw, i was too scared to try

[fading verge]

http://puu.sh/z1Mnm.jpg

[brisk mesa]

@fading verge did you assign weights to your earth-chan's arms though?

[fading verge]

im sO CLOSE

[acoustic tulip]

need some help with weight painting

[brisk mesa]

it helps weight painting if you can get some mesh out of the way if you have them separated. like i select some, press M, and i make them go to another layer kinda like photoshop

[fading verge]

mRage

THat is one one thing i did not do

or did

idk

At one point everything was working except for a spine error

then that

[brisk mesa]

also if helps weight painting if after i'm done painting one part, i double check with weight 0 blue brush for parts that should not be moving

[fading verge]

im getting there

[brisk mesa]

cause i always fuck up

[tame skiff]

How do I set up eye tracking bones without Cats?

[acoustic tulip]

is there a way to paint the entire mesh not with a brush but with a bucket like in Paint? Because my model is somewhat complicated and the brush just cant reach a few spots on the inside because its a single mesh

so when i move the body part there are a few glitch lines showing

like broken geomentry and stuff

[tame skiff]

@acoustic tulip I think you can go into object data (tab on the right that looks like a topheavy triangle), find the bone's vertex group, select everything you want in edit mode, and click "assign

[main sage]

how do i move a bone from one armature to another?

tryin to put a hat on this thing

[fading verge]

attaching files has been disabled in this channel from now going forward

[acoustic tulip]

hm actually

i think it would be easier if i knew how to save characters default pose

[fading verge]

This is done as a security measure. You can still link to pics via imgur or similar service.

[tame skiff]

Rest Pose is a button in the Armature tab

[vapid osprey]

@arctic grotto YOOOO Major thanks my friend that shit was driving me crazy but your idea definetly helped me out.

[crude crag]

wait why can't i upload screenshots anymore

[tame skiff]

VR Pill - Today at 9:21 PM
This is done as a security measure.

[crude crag]

bah.

[fading verge]

How do i fix this error Q_Q LowerArm is not first child of UpperArm or Hand is not first child of LowerArm: you may have problems with Forearm rotations.

Anyone knows? Q_Q

[copper merlin]

Do you know how to fix a see through skirt from looking from the inside?

[acoustic tulip]

This is my problem basically https://imgur.com/yrPD1Yo

[tame skiff]

@fading verge Sounds like you assigned the bones out of order, or assigned bones that aren't connected

[acoustic tulip]

nothing in the edit mode tho https://imgur.com/SGGaqV3

[fading verge]

I didnt assisgn XD it auto assisgned

an i see everything in order so im confused

[tame skiff]

Then reassign

[fading verge]

wanna screenshare on me for a closer look?

[tame skiff]

manually

[fading verge]

Done so

same error

even tested it

this is also my other issue The angle between pelvis and thigh bones should be close to 180 degrees (this avatar's angle is ___). Your avatar may not work well with full-body IK and Tracking.

<--first time unity an not sure what to do

[tame skiff]

Ignore that for now, it'll probably still animate in-game

[acoustic tulip]

so can someone tell me whats up with those spikes that i cant get rid of?

[fading verge]

Ok

[acoustic tulip]

nvm this was a weight paint issue after all

the lower bones were causeing it

[fading verge]

https://gyazo.com/23d790071dbafd61cfe0dbd3e3ed8863

Is there a way i can rig the mouth for movement?

https://gyazo.com/128e98a5b191b40ddc80270e4c6c62d7

It has such a wide grin and i don't know if visemes would work on him

https://gyazo.com/813ac76ebc1d0934d3e9b4557a2fddb2 <inner mouth

[brisk mesa]

i'd get lazy on that and use jaw flap but i'm sure you could still use visemes

but gonna have to make some radicalass visemes

[fading verge]

https://i.imgur.com/Ul52N3D.png

Worth

guys what the fuck

[brisk mesa]

is your skeleton correct in the legs? like did you weight assign it?

[fading verge]

Dam genetics screwed up there

[brisk mesa]

normal japanese girl legs

[fading verge]

what do i do about it

[brisk mesa]

well did you go to Blender to look at it?

cause i would look hard

[fading verge]

mRage would the visemes affect the mouth inside too?

[brisk mesa]

not sure

[fading verge]

i went thought blender and found nothing wrong

Cause the fleshy part you see behind the teeth is a seperate model itself

[brisk mesa]

from what i can tell everyone who uses visemes uses shape keys right? so they just set the tongue and shit too then

[fading verge]

Same thing with the teeth

[brisk mesa]

@fading verge even the weights?

cause i mean what if you accidentally have some finger bone affecting that leg, etc

[fading verge]

what are the weights

[brisk mesa]

you check the weight assignments, like in the weight paint mode where mesh turns blue

blue meaning 0 influence, red being max influence

[fading verge]

?

[brisk mesa]

and you go down the list of vertex assignments shown in your right bar

in the tab with the triangle

[fading verge]

The thing i am scared of what might happen is that when i import this to unity the legs and arms would stretch out cause he has stubby arms and legs. @brisk mesa

[brisk mesa]

if i had stubby arms and legs, to make it not stretch i would weight assign it a little bit better and make smaller trex limbs, right?

for the skelly

[fading verge]

No idea what you said

how do i see the weght

That's new to me

When you say weight assign what would you mean

[uneven rain]

does unity save colliders if I import a new model? If I decimate the model in blender and then import it into unity again will I have to redo the dynamic bones?

[brisk mesa]

oh, image uploading got turned off?

https://i.imgur.com/yJQZNqj.png

[fading verge]

Yeah i was about to send pic of the Tahm's model limbs

[brisk mesa]

this option, fam

yea i just started uploading to imgur

when your mesh turns blue it means 0 influence on that particular bone, go down the list on the right in the tab with the triangle thing

[fading verge]

Oh is that image for me?

[brisk mesa]

well either of you

since you both asked

[fading verge]

O ok

[brisk mesa]

brush settings are upper right bar

[fading verge]

What would influence do though

How does it affect the armature

[brisk mesa]

that's how you manually assign the bits of your mesh to the bone

that's what

like very specifically

you can make gradient painting to make it more natural

[fading verge]

https://i.imgur.com/PyT5fKl.png

[brisk mesa]

okay now check down your list to make sure nothing weird is affecting that one leg

[fading verge]

So weight paint would prevent stretching and tearing of models?

[brisk mesa]

it could. yea. you just need to do it properly

[fading verge]

O ok

[brisk mesa]

like earlier my dress was tearing cause something else was pulling on it

[fading verge]

But how do i know where to use it?

[brisk mesa]

if i have stubby arms and legs on a model i would make the skeleton bones actually those sizes.

and i would auto-assign the mesh to the rig first as starters

then check it out

[fading verge]

Can you tell me if i am doing it right or wrong in pms?

[brisk mesa]

i gotta go

sorry fam

[fading verge]

K

http://puu.sh/z1OUP.jpg

i did it 🎉

[brisk mesa]

naisu

so how did you make her walk? 😛

[fading verge]

fake legs

gonna see if i can fix her tail clipping into the ground now somehow

and then i'll add dynamic bones to hair and such

[brisk mesa]

oh maybe move her origin more down

[fading verge]

that wouldn't help too much

cause shes sinking in at a angle

she'd just be floating weirdly

probably gonna just bend the tail slightly and make her fake legs taller

Jaw bone flap is just the jaw acting as a hatch right

=D!!! I found my issue

the arm bone is detached.....

FFFFFFFFF!!!!!!

meanwhile i have to learn how to fix it...fml

[crude crag]

oh that's easy

go to blender and select armature, then go to edit mode @fading verge

[fading verge]

O hey smashed

[crude crag]

hiya

[fading verge]

Yea....i know that

here the issue

[crude crag]

o

[fading verge]

how to perfectly put it back

thats the issue XD

[crude crag]

wait I thought you meant it didn't have a parent

my b

[fading verge]

wait what....

I'm currently cracking my head open trying to rig a model

i didnt do anythin n the bone went back on its own...O_O!?!?!?!?!?!

it did have a parent

i think the bone out of place caused it to be gay

but...its back on its own....

idk bruh head desk

If i delete bones that are not in use in the pose mode on blender...will itcause an issue?

[crude crag]

make sure that they have no weight assigned to them or have any children @fading verge

if they don't then it should be fine

@fading verge another one?

[fading verge]

Idk how to check for that...

I delete some bones but i dont think i deleted it in the files in blender...would that cause an issue?

[crude crag]

make a separate save

[summer shuttle]

So my models I uploaded tonight aren't showing up in game, They appear as blue outlines. I uploaded them and everything as proper but I dunno what's going on.

I used an older version of dynamic bones on one and I did a custom animation with the other.

[fading verge]

k

[summer shuttle]

Neither of which are showing up in game. My older models are working fine though.

[crude crag]

upload servers aren't working well @summer shuttle reupload later

[summer shuttle]

They uploaded successfully

I did that earlier

Or have they just not refreshed yet maybe?

@crude crag ^

[crude crag]

servers are consistently poop

your only hope is to pray to the emperor

[summer shuttle]

So should I reupload or just wait to see if they show up eventually because they are there on my personal avatars but they don't load in.

[orchid kernel]

can someone run me through dynamic bones real quick?

like what does the options in it do

[summer shuttle]

https://youtu.be/7P0ljQ6hU0A?t=1h17m16s This should help. I put the link at the proper time too

Ok so from what I looked up if the outline is red then they didn't upload properly correct? @crude crag

[crude crag]

yeah if it's blue i think you just have to wait???¿¿¿

[summer shuttle]

Yeah they were both red.

ugh and my internet is garbage. Hopefully everything is saved over.

My one at least is.

I'll try it again.

[fading verge]

the vrchat upload servers are real spotty right now

[summer shuttle]

Also I guess my one with dynamic bones replaced one from earlier that didn't have dynamic bones, I guess I didn't change the name?

Gotta love it

Have they just been spotty starting today?

[crude crag]

no it's been quite ongoing

[fading verge]

^

its pretty bad today though

waiting like 10min to see if my avatar uploaded

and then 50% chance it didn't even upload and i get the red player model

@crude crag yep and this guy is a fat catfish

he has a wide mouth too so i don't know if i can use visemes

[mild mural]

@fading verge you might try doing one jaw viseme for jaw blend shape

I've never tried the single viseme, but it should work (unlike jaw flap)

[fading verge]

I am forever with the same error

[orchid shale]

This hem of this MMD models flare jeans is giving me grief to no end. Whenever my character moves her legs the hem stays in place and doesn't move with the legs. Anyone got advice for the hem to move with the legs in animation? https://i.imgur.com/eFnHR8i.png

[merry cape]

dynamic bones it?

they might not be weighted to the leg

[orchid shale]

I did dynamic bones earlier and it came out like this with colliders added to her legs(Pic related). And without colliders it just stays in place barely moving. https://i.imgur.com/HBoDXAD.png

Idk about this weighted thing though, do you have a video tutorial about it?

[rich oriole]

Umm hi, is that an issue on the .fbx model or also on the .pmx file?

[merry cape]

you gotta mess with the settings, I think the colliders on the legs probably make it jump back like that

[rich oriole]

I know how to fix weighting issues in the .pmx editor, unfortunately not the .fbx files

[merry cape]

there's a pretty good weighting tutorial for blender

[rich oriole]

Ah, maybe this will help you? https://youtu.be/Tl4qTgwQwYw

[orchid shale]

Even with messing with the colliders, the hem stays in place, like static in its postion. It'll still move and stuff, but the hem will stay in the same position. Sorry if that doesn't make sense.

I'll try looking into this video regarding weight though, thanks.

[rich oriole]

if you have the .pmx file I could check it for you if you need some help with it. I wish you the best of luck!

[orchid shale]

Thanks ^_^

[fading verge]

Do I need dynamic bones for a tail?

[merry cape]

it helps yea

[mild mural]

you can animate it if you don't want to do dynamic bones

or you can do a combination of both

[merry cape]

animating it would be cooler but take more time

[balmy solstice]

How would i get a T-rex like posture?

Assuming the humanoid walking animation would work with such a posture?

And that it's doable in Unity

[crude crag]

https://imgur.com/a/P7n84 okay so how do I move this bone without messing with anything else? I just need a better joint for animation

[abstract wedge]

how do I leave the upper chest bone blank

[foggy terrace]

set it to the bone None
(in the list of the bones)

[abstract wedge]

this thing?

er

cant add images here 😐

https://i.imgur.com/cp6PKZx.png

this thing?

(sorry I'm new to this lol)

I can't change it

[crude crag]

click the little circle on the far right of that image

its not very intuitive i know

@abstract wedge

[abstract wedge]

oh

thanks

I would have NEVER figured that out

[fading verge]

Anyone have a guide for avatar rigging for models that can't have a humanoid rig but generic instead.?

[cosmic mica]

my avatar seems to be working just fine but its fingers wont bend with my controls, according to its setup all necessary bones are there on the correct side of the skeleton, could it be its throwing a fit over an asymettrical skeleton? (the right arm is a light beam)

[torn isle]

You should ask around for people if they have it.

And are willing to give it.

[abstract wedge]

tells me to set upper chest to none, then I get told to set the parent of spine heirarchy ... ehhhhh

[crude crag]

nah you want upper chest to be none

and likely whatever was there make it chest

[abstract wedge]

ah

[balmy solstice]

Just to be sure, It is possible to have someone in a t-rex posture?

[crude crag]

you'd have to have custom animations

since they hang by the side by default

[balmy solstice]

I mean the legs and spine

the arms are fine

[crude crag]

o

like, horizontal?

https://news.nationalgeographic.com/content/dam/news/2017/10/30/t-rex-arms/01-t-rex-arms.jpg

Like i said, likely needs custom animations

[abstract wedge]

Is it possible to give a car a humanoid rig?

[crude crag]

i dont know why you'd want to

[fading verge]

Can anyone give me a quick hand with a rigging question please? I can't seem to post the image here of the trouble I am having.

[crude crag]

upload to imgur and share the link

[fading verge]

https://imgur.com/a/1joJT

[crude crag]

you can prolly ignore that

[fading verge]

Surely there's a way to make it so everything aligns?

The index finger seems to be happy.

[manic flicker]

https://imgur.com/a/vZ06m

heiarchy issue. can someone photoshop what would be the correct order?

[abstract wedge]

just switch some bone settings

if you took out a _2, and you have one set to the _1, set the _1 to the _2 or something

worked for me

[blazing tide]

Make sure you spine 3 is assigned to chest in the model's rig, in unity.

[onyx crown]

https://i.imgur.com/8zlvTIx.png I have bones that can map to these areas, but I dont see where I can define the spine, pelvis, etc. Only see options for chest, feet, and the rest.

[fading verge]

i need help

[violet ruin]

Any good tutorials on rigging from the ground up?

[fading verge]

Anyone have a guide for avatar rigging for models that can't have a humanoid rig but generic instead.?

If I wanted to add a tail on a model how would I do so

and keep the bones

[dusk pilot]

Does anybody know what causes this leg splitting? Is it just the positions of my bones into the humanoid skeleton?

https://i.imgur.com/C9ppb0m.png

[fading verge]

I NEEEEEEEED HELPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! PLS PS THANKS

[restive urchin]

So seeing a dinosaur related question above, I've actually had a large amount of luck convincing the humanoid animation set to paly with a velociraptor avatar, with just one issue. IK when stood still seems to ignore the muscle constraints of the legs. https://i.imgur.com/WMkFyf4.jpg The left is it working fine, the right is if I dare stand still. Is there any way to force IK into line on something like this, or will I need to try and make an idle animation? And, will an idle animation even work in this case as in VR stood up you're never quite idle?

[near kindle]

"feet arent specified" so is arms and head

help?

[hallow plover]

Anyone know the quickfix for "ShoulderP_R/L, preventing from making the shoulder bones direct children of the upperbody2" isuue by chance?

[late stag]

@dusk pilot i think its your player height

[crimson sonnet]

Does anyone else experience weird character dynamic bone twitching when using the CustomOverride?

[fading verge]

i need advance help with characters and major or i think problems pls

[fading verge]

https://i.imgur.com/MRbVmmB.png

this is what a rigging nightmare looks like

i used CATS too

[fading verge]

If I wanted to add a tail on a model how would I do so?
and keep the bones

[arctic sigil]

Can someone give me some pointers on trying to rig a killzone model or should I not bother?

[brisk mesa]

killzone peeps are humans so it should be pretty basic, no?

[arctic sigil]

Mh, well yes and no.

[brisk mesa]

do you have a model already?

[arctic sigil]

I have 4...

[brisk mesa]

you could shove a skeleton in it in blender and see how well blender does automatic weighting

and then go from there maybe, tweaking it

[balmy solstice]

@crude crag https://qph.ec.quoracdn.net/main-qimg-14a0c5d9f136a610453ffa09783a95e6

[arctic sigil]

was using mixamo because lazy

[brisk mesa]

i figured but yeah if you want better results, you can't use mixamo xD

[balmy solstice]

I have 19 lel, but i didn't bone a single one (I did edit some bones but never fully boned one myself because I am stupid.)

[limpid scarab]

@fading verge Is the body piece weight painted to the correct bones?

[fading verge]

no clue

i already closed blender and unity and was gonna go to bed soon lol

[limpid scarab]

Ah alright, I'd check the weight paint if I were you, see if the chest area is done correctly

[brave flower]

https://imgur.com/tNGLxuj Can anyone assist me in figuring out why the sleeve isn't inheriting the movement of the shoulder? like the arm moves but the sleeve doesn't

[polar marlin]

Hey guys, can anyone help please ? I’ve been trying to upload a pikachu model using Unity and the sdk. I managed to reduce the polycount, the size... But as it’s not an human model I’m having a lot of issues with the rig. Each time I try some fixes it gets more in the red. 😭 Is there a way to auto apply a skeleton other than mixamo ?

[brave flower]

Or should I have it inherent it from the arm and not follow the shoulder since the shoulder isn't really used in VR chat

[brisk mesa]

pikachu should be human enough if you rig it yourself in blender tho

can't be that hard

just tiny scaled arm bones instead and a bigass head bone lol

[charred patrol]

https://gyazo.com/0dce875c700ceb50485c961a2e3c1835

how do i fix this?

when i do enforce t-pose the left feet turns towards the other

[small zinc]

might be a model irregularity or the weight painting might be off?

is the model naturally t-posed?

[charred patrol]

https://gyazo.com/ad585d680d2736837903f688838586b1

that's the normal pose

[polar marlin]

@woven estuary Yeah that’s what I thought I’m pretty sure it’s a simple fix... Just dunno what it is. but I’ll try downloading blender thank you.

[small zinc]

your bones might not be symmetrical

if one is painted or placed differently to the other

it means the feet misalign

[soft shell]

Finally got everything to import, but I seem to have an issue with the avatar tip toeing when I look around. Also the hands do not want to go down to the side easily.

[charred patrol]

fixed the ankle thing in blender

[fading verge]

I need help learning this kind of stuff Ive got bones by using the meta rigging system on blender and put the bones into the body but when importing it to unity and configuring it the bones go t-pose instend of relaxed pose like i made them in blender. I was wondering if anyone is willing to help me out and take a discord call to help me out with pointers of something that would be great. I would love to learn so I could help others in the future

If anyone want to help DM me

https://ibb.co/caF4wm Okay guys, need your help on this. I want to make all of these bones into one big bone so the cannon is static and it doesn't deform into a hand when I import it to VRchat... However, whenever I delete these bones (the mesh is combined, there shouldn't be an issue) the gun completely detaches itself from the ball joint. How can I make this into one big bone and keep the mesh intact? I have tried joining the mesh, but it's already joined.

(Bones I'm talking about are these)

[onyx crown]

My model looks great (https://i.imgur.com/2gKRWi8.png) in unity, but for some reason warped in vr https://i.imgur.com/GssIt8s.jpg

any ideas?

[fading verge]

I want just a plane circle with a jaw bone (Like pacman) Is that possible

[ocean meadow]

Check your rotations in blender and your tpose in unity

yes sin

[fading verge]

I cant really figure out what button in blender makes the jaw bone >_<

[ocean meadow]

just paint the whole jaw to the bone

select the head armature and then hover over the tail of the bone and hold e and drag

sperate it from the bone by clicking the jaw bone, then the headbone and then press ctrl p

or is it just p?

one of the to

and then choose the setting under connected

forget hat it's called

"keep offset"

then you can move the jaw bone to the proper location

[rapid urchin]

Hey, so im having issues with my rig. I have everything seemingly rigged correctly but when in game i am still in T-Pose, i can supply screenshots and such of what ever is needed if someone is able to help real quick.

[ocean meadow]

are you missing anything?

[quaint halo]

Is it the right place for bone merging/parenting ?

[ocean meadow]

i would geuss so

[fading verge]

I feel like Im missing something

[rapid urchin]

Were you asking me Graelyth?

[quaint halo]

I just want to know the general guidelines about bone merging/parenting. Do I merge hairs/skirt/tails only ? DO I merge all hairs together ?

[fading verge]

I held e and clicked the side of the mouth but there's no bone

[ocean meadow]

yeah napalm

also did you bind everything properly? right arm to right arm, spine 2 to chest etc.

[rapid urchin]

I do not believe i am missing anything, I followed the quick tips on the Common rigging problems video shown in the pinned comments, let me send a screenshot that qould posibly help

I rigged this myself, so i dont have the mixamo 'spine 2' label

http://prntscr.com/i0m9eh

[ocean meadow]

gotcha

[rapid urchin]

I labeled the joint for the arm/neck spot as upper chest so hopefully that isnt confusing

[ocean meadow]

did you weightpaint/vertex group everything?

[rapid urchin]

I did not, is that possibly what is missing? I wasnt able to use the Mixamo quick rigger so i did it old school in maya, first time by hand so im still learning it.

[fading verge]

@ocean meadow So um.,.. how do I make bones from scratch? I feel like Im missing something important here

I'm new to blender

[ocean meadow]

yeah you need to connect the mesh to the bones

other wise you won't move

[rapid urchin]

Ahhh, fair point. Lol ill get on that thanks a ton

[ocean meadow]

guys i'm streaming right now if you want me to run through some basic rigging real quick

[rapid urchin]

Link?

[ocean meadow]

https://www.twitch.tv/graelyth

[rapid urchin]

If you wanna show how to do the weightpaint/vertex group thing i would greatly appreciate it my dude

[fading verge]

Does anyone here know how to just make a bone in blender? I have instructions for everything else I just cant make a bone in the first place

[ocean meadow]

ctrl A

sorry shift a

armature then create bone

it's creates it at the 3d cursor

[fading verge]

Thank you

[still lark]

@fading verge https://youtu.be/jp_SqjB0468 I highly recommend this video, it taught me rigging from scratch

the only difference is that you won't be needing an upperchest

I recommend rigging it like the tutorial and then using the vrcat blender addon to fix it

[soft shell]

I beleive I had it all correct, but its extreamely difficult to get the arms to drop to the side entirely, theres a dead range from directly beside to 1/4 up where they do not like to stay. They also rest above the waist even when held below it.

If anyone has an idea why that may be, or where to look that would be great. Haven't seen it as a common error in any videos or tutorials that i've found.

[onyx crown]

@ocean meadow how do I know if the rotations are correct?

This is what my skeletal structure looks like atm https://i.imgur.com/BpPYYvo.png

[brisk mesa]

How do you guys deal with bones like that anyway? I always have like an actual connected skeleton lol

[soft shell]

As long as the hierarchy is correct, those structures seem to work mostly...

[onyx crown]

Not working for me lol https://imgur.com/GssIt8s

such sexy arms and legs /s :D

[soft shell]

Neat

[onyx crown]

Looks fine in unity though https://imgur.com/2gKRWi8

[soft shell]

could be as simple as player height, sitting/standing position, or calibration of the ground height with your headset.

I think those issues mostly effect arms, not legs but worth a shot.

[tulip granite]

Hidden bones causing the distortion
Needa remove then in blender

The tutorial only teaches you common hidden bone

This type of bone is hidden in the armature

[low tinsel]

Um, my character goes from this in unity https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/322844578661007360/402401120611467274/unknown.png?width=363&height=336

then I go to rig the bones

to this

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/322844578661007360/402401598112006145/unknown.png

what happened?

[ocean meadow]

check your timeline in blender and make sure there aren't any animation keys mapped

if there are, open the dope sheet nad delete them

[low tinsel]

uh oh, blender

[ocean meadow]

oh did mixamo do that for you?

[low tinsel]

I don't think I had it saved since this was made like uhhh 2 days ago

[ocean meadow]

oh ok

[low tinsel]

I did use mixamo to rig it but I'm not sure if that was the problem

@ocean meadow nevermind! I did save it from blender, found the .blend file

[ocean meadow]

nice

[low tinsel]

@ocean meadow there is no animation frames I think?

[ocean meadow]

change the bottom window to the dope sheet

shoould be the very bottom left button

[low tinsel]

Yep

@ocean meadow looks like nothing is wrong

[ocean meadow]

check the weight paints

make sure every bone is bound to the right part of the mesh

[low tinsel]

alright

how would I check that @ocean meadow

[ocean meadow]

set the bones to pose mode

then click the mesh

[low tinsel]

alright

[ocean meadow]

and switch to weight paint mode

then click on each bone and make sure everything connected properly

i.e. when you select the left leg bone, the mesh around that bone should light up

[low tinsel]

@ocean meadow these are the only bones?

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/322844578661007360/402406590482743316/unknown.png

[ocean meadow]

0___0

wat

[low tinsel]

actually, I think those are the bones of the timbs

and the alien has no bones at all.

?

[ocean meadow]

did it ever have a full armature?

[low tinsel]

Probably not

I forgot to import the mixamo-rigged version of the alien

to blender

I'll just remake it

then

[worn gale]

anyone here can DM me a full length tutorial how to rig my own model? I got a mixamo model I made from Fuse CC (welp)

[ocean meadow]

@worn gale i can just show you anything you need to know right now

if i know it already of course

[worn gale]

well

I need to know how to decrease polygons without messing much of my model

[ocean meadow]

seperate anything you don't want decimated from the main model

select everything you don't want to be decimated and then press P

[worn gale]

ah

[ocean meadow]

and seperate by selection

then you can apply decimate to the rest

[worn gale]

in blender?

[ocean meadow]

yes

[worn gale]

what does P do?

[ocean meadow]

seperate tool

you can always rejoin the whol mesh later

you'll just have to keep parts eperate until your done decimating

[worn gale]

pressing P does nothing

[ocean meadow]

well you have to select what you want seperated first

[edgy flicker]

noticed that my models mouth opens sometimes when the eyes move but its not consistent, what could be causing this?

[worn gale]

i cant seem to separate, help

[ocean meadow]

get on boi https://www.twitch.tv/graelyth

[fading verge]

I need a rigging guru to help crack this case

[modest harness]

Guys is this a rigging issue or something else?
https://gyazo.com/3e6154dfd8d4fde20635d9e4770cecef

I mean the skirt bending forward

[fading verge]

My model has bad spine hierarchy but rigging configuration looks fine and normal

it's just refusing to work

man, why cant having custom avatars be CONVENIENT

[worn gale]

thanks @ocean meadow

[fading verge]

So whats going on here the bones look fine in blender 😦 http://prntscr.com/i0nzb1

[modest harness]

add a constraint to the arm bones in Blender

i mean a constraint in the mesh but to the arm bones

[quaint halo]

how I delete a bone

https://i.imgur.com/LkvsvVG.png

[fading verge]

Not sure how to do that but okay

[modest harness]

@fading verge https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_RhPePY5DoU

[fading verge]

Thank you !

[nocturne vortex]

is there anyone on who can help out real quick? :S

[final sphinx]

Heyyy so I got this thing where the bones don't move with the body...

[ocean meadow]

wit wat

you have to weight the mesh to the bones

[final sphinx]

Happened when I joined clothes and a body together in blender

[fading verge]

Is there a way to make it so dynamic hair doesn't clip through my chest when walking backwards?

[ocean meadow]

yes

[fading verge]

how do

[ocean meadow]

collider

in unity right?

[fading verge]

ye

[ocean meadow]

yeah add a bone collider

[still lark]

@final sphinx whenever you make big changes to the mesh, you need to apply the automatic weights again

[ocean meadow]

and make sure it's paired to the hair so they actual interact with each other

[final sphinx]

@still lark Where?

[fading verge]

how does the bone collider work

just stick it where you don't want dynamic bones going past?

[nocturne vortex]

i'm learning how to do visemes, anyone know how to do that ?

[fading verge]

@modest harness my whole charaters mesh isnt attached to any armature so if I select the whole mesh of my model what bone do I constrain it too ?

[modest harness]

ehhh

for now, just try to fix the part that isnt working in unity

did you rig the avatar yourself?

[still lark]

select , all by type, meshes, then select the armature, ctrl p - with automatic weights

if you don't get that option it's because you didn't select the meshes first and then the armature

[nocturne vortex]

feelsignoredman

[still lark]

@nocturne vortex it's easier to help if you have a specific question, that's just a general question that can be googled

[final sphinx]

Is this before or after I hit the fix model button in CATS? @still lark

[still lark]

shouldn't matter

[nocturne vortex]

visimes are you supposed to make the animation yourself in blender? the tutorial i am following simply states "edit the vertices on the 19 shape keys until you get the appropriate shapes" but it doesn't tell me how to go about doing that

and since it's a text based tutorial (because i have yet to find a video one) i am stuck trying to figure out what he means

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1W5KFa_aszCMrJaFD8mb9a-GHYO4X4S9M63GjM4UwuEw/pub <- link to the tutorial

[still lark]

you're supposed to go to the vertices and edit them directly yourself

[nocturne vortex]

but how do i edit it so only the viseme gets the edit and i don't accidentally give my model a permanent aa face or something

[still lark]

I think this will help you, the guy edits there so https://youtu.be/cWuZjsyUuMA

[fading verge]

is there a way to make these colliders stronger

[nocturne vortex]

kk thanks time to go back at it then o -o

[fading verge]

bones still go through them if the model moves fast enough

[still lark]

his model is conveniently modeled with the eyebrows separated so he can edit the eyebrows easily but your experience might be harder

[fading verge]

@modest harness Yes i rigged it myself the model came with no bones I used the blender meta rig tool

[modest harness]

Yeah just try moving the bones in pose mode to see whether the meshes are attached correctly now

[still lark]

you're supposed to edit under the vismes as the slider is all the way, save as copy often just in case
I'm not that good in visemes and I've never actually rigged anything with it but I hope i helped @nocturne vortex

[nocturne vortex]

it did @still lark !

[still lark]

[agile raft]

Guys I added an object(mustache) onto my model in unity but in game it stays still and wont move with the head,

How do I make it move with the head?

[abstract hill]

Any idea ho w to get these bunny ears to move? I added bones and did the child-of thing, but it doesn't seem to do anything

https://i.imgur.com/pEWC5ql.png?1

[lime silo]

can the collision be set so it doesn't clip through parts while running? (dyn bones)

it seems that collision isnt absolute, it only has a certain force b4 it clips through

[umbral stag]

https://gyazo.com/7ed023e3664b1ad5bb505f86e9ceded1

okay, new to this. trying to weight paint my ears. and the ears are separate layers.
can i parrent them like in the image to make the painting easier?
or will it scuff up the whole thing?

anyone?

[shrewd epoch]

If I would like to make just a floating head and hands (much like how you are portrayed in a lot of Steam VR environments) that are essentially parented to HMD and Controller the easiest way would still to be a fully humanoid skeleton only that the only bones weighted are the head/hands? I dabbled a little and it seemed to still try and deform hands and heads if I moved too "much". Any pointers?

[fading verge]

quick question how to stop my character from levitating http://puu.sh/z25ax.png

I have no idea :<

i mean its not a huge problem, i can deal with a inch of levitation or so

o well

Maybe it was levitating in blender

Or something like that

probably, that means fixing it would involve having to re-configure all my bones and such

i'll do that another day tbh

[naive tree]

@abstract hill u need dynamic bones for that, if you already have, then the bones u've made carry no weight, so u have to weight paint or assign the ears to bones

@fading verge fix ankles/toes in blender?

http://prntscr.com/i09sva smth like this for ankle, then u prob can unassign toe anyway

[fading verge]

i'll try that later yuumi

[naive tree]

left side of the bone can be lower

[fading verge]

cause if i reimport the model i have to reapply all these: http://puu.sh/z25FN.png

😂 🔫

[eager bronze]

https://imgur.com/a/5ZAz2 Bones are in and the next steps are to Unwrap, texture, skin then I can Put it into Uniy and test it in VR Chat

[naive tree]

why do u have so many of them? create couple dummy bones

[fading verge]

hair bangs+back hair strands+skirt+shirt ties+breasts

[eager bronze]

This is a helpful article for rigging for unity. https://docs.unity3d.com/Manual/Preparingacharacterfromscratch.html

[edgy flicker]

how do I seperate a part of the mesh so that I can rig it to a bone?

this model has eyes but hasnt implemented them so that they can move

[eager bronze]

What are you seperating?

ah

[edgy flicker]

Eyes from the body

so that they can move

[eager bronze]

Just link them to the head bone

[edgy flicker]

but how do I do that?

[eager bronze]

Are the eyes on the body mesh or are they seperate?

[edgy flicker]

on the body mesh

[eager bronze]

so you want them to be able to move independantly for blinking?

[edgy flicker]

i want them to move independantly for eye tracking

they are on the same mesh as the body and the bones in place arent actually connected to them

[eager bronze]

can you put up a screen shot?

[edgy flicker]

https://imgur.com/a/fNkMy

[fading verge]

Found the problem
https://imgur.com/YVOPfLJ

[eager bronze]

You're going to have to seperate the mesh

@edgy flicker

did you model that or is it a premade?

[edgy flicker]

premade

im asking how do I seperate the mesh

I know how to select parts of the mesh I just dont know how to seperate and assign it

[eager bronze]

You should be able to select the polys and detach to object

[edgy flicker]

wheres the option to detach?

[eager bronze]

What softwear are you using?

[edgy flicker]

blender

[fading verge]

I feel so stupid.
I am so tired that I did not fix the size of the model

[eager bronze]

The command you're looking for is "split" and you can select it with Mesh > Vertices > Split, menu or by pressing the keyboard shortcut Y.

[meager fern]

https://gyazo.com/9aa13de74978c089d382ddb0897c3dd1 guys how do i rig non humanoid characters into the game?

[mystic sluice]

https://docs.google.com/document/d/10BuA_ybyXSSXqXuf6cDyPm52VIpqptgyvuRaphcYH0M/edit

@meager fern

[meager fern]

kaaay, thank you a lot 😃

[mystic sluice]

👌

[edgy flicker]

@eager bronze I seperated the eyes from the head but how do I assign them to the bone?

[copper verge]

https://gyazo.com/b663f0a7ad35cc18e6eb2e0969a28c69

[eager bronze]

Link Them directly to the bones, but make sure to change ther pivot point of each eye to that of the bone

[copper verge]

Im only getting 1 tab wtf'

[edgy flicker]

how do I do that?

[eager bronze]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eS4inv6DT1Q

I've got to head to bed now Bird

If you have any more questions just do a quick google search alright.

[edgy flicker]

thats not what i wanted but thanks anyway

[eager bronze]

sorry about that

[mystic sluice]

oh @edgy flicker

Select the bone and go into weight painting

paint it all red

all of the eye that is

[edgy flicker]

whats the keybind for that again

[mystic sluice]

ctrl tab

while on the armature

then just right click the bone you want to apply it to

if I remember correctly

Yep

[edgy flicker]

I cant go into weight painting mode with the armature selected?

and I painted the eye red but it doesnt seem to do anything when I right click

[restive relic]

so

my Jaw was set to Eye_L 🤔

don't have a jaw bone

big deal?

[errant spear]

Hello, I've got a (hopefully) quick question: My skin modifier increases the size of my model a bit, so she's around ~1m80. However I forgot to add eye bones for any potential future eye tracking. I added the bones to the armature, but whenever I give the Eye_left or Eye_right bones any weight it scales the eyes down to the orginial size/location. Any idea how to fix this?

https://i.imgur.com/kxXqBQj.png

Only newly added bones do this

[wispy moon]

So I've heard about the dynamic bones script for avatars and how people are sharing it despire it being a paid script. Is that really a safe thing to do?

[pulsar mortar]

Hey all does anyone know why this is happening https://imgur.com/f2yCok5 all the bones in blender are correctly parented and are done but in unity they seem to dissapear and are not recognised. help

[lethal axle]

@pulsar mortar start by switching the chest bone to spine 2

Has anyone here found out how to fix the "You cannot edit your VRChat Data while the unity Application is running" issue?

[pulsar mortar]

@lethal axle after you have saved your file you have to close unity and re-open it.

only way i found of fixing it

[lethal axle]

I've done so several times

And it still doesn't work

[fading verge]

https://imgur.com/C5gyunA

can anyone help me with this

for some reason dynamic bone isnt connected to the body

are the bones that you made dynamic weighted onto the mesh?

[lethal axle]

I give up

I've been trying to upload this model for half a week now

Fixed around 5 different errors

But I can't find a solution to this anywhere

[fading verge]

guys why does it say spine hierarchy incorrect make sure that the parent of both shoulders and the neck is the chest?

@fading verge go to the Rig tab, hit Configure and check how the bones are set up

particularly the chest

[sharp raptor]

anyone know why i can see the top of my head when running

but not when standing still

[fading verge]

@sharp raptor You have to tweak the viewpoint a little bit

I usually put it on the tip of the nose

depends on the model though.

[sharp raptor]

okay

[limpid scarab]

@fading verge What Nepgeah said, you need to weight paint the ears to the ear bones

[fading verge]

they are me and them spoke and even they said there was nothing wrong with it and they doesnt know what to do

@limpid scarab

[limpid scarab]

and if you rotate the bone manually the ear moves perfectly?

[fading verge]

idk what it is

[narrow marsh]

i've got a problem, got a model I wanted to use, do all the steps of putting it through blender then into unity, when I go to upload it, it tells me the model is missing an animator so it wont animate in vrchat

and i cant figure out what i did to do to get it to work

because it has bones and an amature

[silent niche]

can someone tell me how i can bypass the height limits

[umbral stag]

Pray to Jesus.

[civic kraken]

@narrow marsh I had the same problem

1. did you switch the rig to humanoid?

2. did you attach the thing in the avatar discreptor and it allowed you to

i fixed mine by redoing it

I get the Error spine hierarchy incorrect

:p

[static iris]

Hey how hard would it be to get source MDLs visemes and eye tracking working?

[meager fern]

https://gyazo.com/bf172f50d1b4a7a170ba203f83acde84 guys im working on a model that i downloaded and i noticed that she has 3 sets of eyes/eyelashes should i delete 2 of them?

[mental quail]

@wispy moon well, it's meant to be used with games, not normal users like us using it for hair physics.

[proper kettle]

i made a model with a mixamo rig. It works fine, but i wish to add an eye tracking. Where should i start?

[brisk mesa]

Try all the eye tracking tuts on youtube

[proper kettle]

ok

[brisk mesa]

As to how hard it is, depends on you

[grim pasture]

How can I make my custom avatar stand right without knees bending and stop hip movement. Kinda like the default avatars do.

[proper kettle]

i hope there will be no "Make a new skelet and rig from scratch"

[narrow marsh]

@civic kraken i believe so, let me double check

[low river]

@proper kettle you wont have to

[civic kraken]

@narrow marsh Actually I found a different fix if you still have the issue

[narrow marsh]

@civic kraken i am :/

[civic kraken]

ok so

remove your descriptor and the other thing that came with it

and go to the hierarchy and double click on your models name

and if you look in the inspector you should see an animator, do you see one?

[narrow marsh]

yes and it's checkedbox

controller is set as none (runtime animator)

avatar is of course the avatar

[civic kraken]

k so add the descriptor in add component

[narrow marsh]

apply root motion is checked, update mode is normal and culling mode is set to cull update transforms

descriptror has been readded

[civic kraken]

ok now

go to pipeline manager and press attach

noaw go to the build log and check if you have the same error

[narrow marsh]

it's still saying "This avatar does not contain an animator, and will not animate in VRChat" under Armature

[proper kettle]

@low river so, all i need is to create 2 bones and rig 2 eyeballs?

[low river]

yep

[zinc aurora]

Do i need a rig in an avatar that should be static except for visimes?

[low river]

it helps if the eyes are seperated from the mesh thats the body

[civic kraken]

@narrow marsh send a pic of your inspector where you have the descriptor in

using like pushh or gyazo

[proper kettle]

@low river thanks

[acoustic quiver]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/290311237663981569/402518646993321984/unknown.png How can I make it so I see the bones more easily?

[narrow marsh]

i have lightshot that lets me do custom screenshots but it wont let me copy and paste it into this chat

one sec

https://gyazo.com/cd93f3185d4300a4a2108641a00aadcf

@civic kraken

[languid plaza]

https://www.dropbox.com/s/zvqden2gjjiv8df/Unity_2018-01-15_17-41-15.png?dl=0 can anyone help with fixing my fingers? i'm at my wits end, last thing to do before my model is ready for upload

[civic kraken]

hm

dats weird

[narrow marsh]

i wonder if something got messed up in blender

because it shows it has an amarature

and all the pieces are there

[languid plaza]

would really appreciate some help from anyone whos rigged their own fingers

[meager fern]

guys to add eye tracking should i just add 2 bones to the eye meshes and apply it with cats?

[narrow marsh]

i unfortunately dont know the answers to those two questions

im still fairly new to this myself

[meager fern]

same, im just having fun in here messing around with blender and stuff

https://gyazo.com/76ee062defe6ad457db9be8288ce809f currently working on a Devola model i found on the internet

fixed the hair textures, which was pure white, fixed the eye positioning and all that shit XD

[narrow marsh]

nice

[meager fern]

now i wanna add eye tracking 👀

[narrow marsh]

i found a vaporeon model i wanna put in but i gotta figure out to rig it so it's walking is 4 legged not humanoid because that would look terrifying lol

[meager fern]

https://docs.google.com/document/d/10BuA_ybyXSSXqXuf6cDyPm52VIpqptgyvuRaphcYH0M/edit

👀

[narrow marsh]

i figured it would be setting my own animations

[rich oriole]

@meager fern Awwww Devola ;~;

[meager fern]

@rich oriole i already have a Nier Devola into the game and i sometimes drop around the nier world playing the song of ancients on my acoustic guitar 😄

[rich oriole]

NieR and Drakengard broke me
There's a NieR world in VR chat though?
I know where I'm hiding

[meager fern]

there is one

search for the keyword nier

and it should pop up

oh

nier... not yet

someone whos experienced with world making should gift us with either a bunker or resistance camp world 👀

or the village in nier

now, decimate first and do eye tracking or the opposite?

[rich oriole]

Try to decimate all but the face and hands unless you really need to

then eye tracking

Also I would like to have the sea kingdom place from Drakengard 3 tbh - Five's domain was awesome

[narrow marsh]

Im also now getting the spine hierarchy error but looking under it the chest and neck are parented to the spine

;-;

oh wait i see the issue

it's showing that the spine is the parent of chest

but chest is the parent of neck

how do i reparent a bone

nvm i found out a way to do it but the setting i need to click on is disabled ._.

[shrewd panther]

@meager fern isn’t that Fuse CC

[meager fern]

wat wat

[shrewd panther]

The modeling program your using

[meager fern]

no thats blender

👀

[shrewd panther]

Oooo looked like fuse

[fading verge]

guys in blender how can i select more than 1 thing like i need to select 2 UV thingys

uvmaps

[naive tree]

hold shift?

[fading verge]

wont work ....

[naive tree]

what do you want to do?

[slate nest]

I neeed help my doods

when im putting the skleton humanoid thing

it looks fine

but the control panel says this

Spiner hierarchy missing elements, make sure that Pelvis, Spine, Chest, Neck and shoulders are mapped

[fading verge]

select 2 UVmaps to make a Combine UVmap so i can get Atlas to Function

(auto atlas)

[opal citrus]

why is it when i upload an avatar for my friend it is red/qued? but she sees herself perfectly fine? so confused

[fading verge]

https://imgur.com/efBbLsV

can anyone tell me how i can keep the ear like this please

[earnest lily]

is that not the default pose?

[grizzled rain]

if it's a blend shape just turn it to 100% in unity

[earnest lily]

if the ear was previously upright and you made it like this by posing it, just set this as the new t pose/resting adn you should be fine
if you dont know how, then ask as soon as you see this @fading verge

[fading verge]

@earnest lily how do i set it as new t-pose/

[earnest lily]

ok so you first of all go to your body thingy in the top right

the orange one

and once you selected that, in the menu below should be a wrench icon

click that, should bring you to the modifier's page

copy the one that is there, apply it one of them

then go back to pose mode and hit ctrl a and select "apply as rest pose"

[proper kettle]

i made two bones, two eyes. All is rigged. But when i look in a mirror, nothing happens. My eyes completely static. What can be wrong?

[fading verge]

whos good with exporting MMD models

[meager fern]

https://gyazo.com/5ae7ee883ef18fa5e0309a8ff4febf4e how can i generate an atlas when there so many objects in a model?

[acoustic quiver]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/401845171052085259/402539627279417344/unknown.png My avatar floats when I move, would this be the cause?

[slate nest]

I have a question

When im walkin in game

[fallow lake]

Hmmmm more than likely. Make sure your avatar is also origined to 0 on all axis as well

[acoustic quiver]

so how do I fix it?

[slate nest]

my models legs sink in the ground

how do i fix this?

[acoustic quiver]

is your avatar origined to 0?

[slate nest]

ye

[acoustic quiver]

wait

[fallow lake]

Same thing Tommy. Make sure your avatar is set to 0 on all axises

[acoustic quiver]

your legs sink into the ground

mine float

check your foot bone

[fallow lake]

Lol

[slate nest]

alright

[acoustic quiver]

So how do I fix the floating issue with that bone there?

How do I move it more into the foot?

[fallow lake]

Skyfry you may be able to move the bones in unity to better match the model but you may have to do it in Blender

[acoustic quiver]

So how do I do that

[fallow lake]

Your ankle bone is sticking out of the very back bottom of the calf it seems.

Look up a YouTube vid on bones in Blender

[acoustic quiver]

yes

aaahhhg

[fading verge]

Um guys

[fallow lake]

I can't explain in great detail right now I am at work

[fading verge]

why is my character's mouth stuck wide open ingame?

[foggy terrace]

hey, I have 2 questions:
How need I to setup the bones for the eyes ?
And with my model, My vr-space (I don't remember the name ^^) is a little bit under ther ground, so how can I fix that ? 🤔

[fallow lake]

In Unity when you're configuring bones deselect jawbone that should help

[fading verge]

wheres that

in the rigging?

[fallow lake]

Slaynash you set the viewpoint for VR on the VRC descriptor. There is a little gray ball that shows it's position.

Yes in the rigging under head Jebac

I had to do that with all four of my MGS avatars. Mouths still animate with visemes though

[acoustic quiver]

yeah it seems that the foot bone is actually in the ankle....

so... I need to... move it down?

[fallow lake]

Yes. Make it match the model

[topaz dune]

Badabing badaone, any troubels that's needs fixing done?

[acoustic quiver]

alright.. working on that now

[fallow lake]

Got three here that need help. Two with a floating/sinking avatar legs and one with a mouth stuck open

Mouth issue you should be able to fix by setting jawbone to none

If you have visemes set up the mouth will still animate.

[topaz dune]

if your avatar is sinking try and move the hip bones up in unity, that fixses it for some ppl

[fallow lake]

Got a buddy of mine whose Mistral avatar opens her mouth randomly when he isn't even talking.

[foggy terrace]

Here is how my model looks in Unity (I set the gray dot between the eyes)

[fallow lake]

Gonna try to fix that for him tonight

[foggy terrace]

we can't post images here ?

[fallow lake]

You should be able to

[acoustic quiver]

alright, bones have been placed into the foot

let's try that.

[fallow lake]

Skyfry is your model humanoid?

[topaz dune]

@foggy terrace nah, it helps us getting an idea of how to fix your problem

[acoustic quiver]

its um

like the rig or the model itself

it's dry bowser

the rig is humanoid yes

[foggy terrace]

So, this is the image ^^
https://ibb.co/jtiWu6

foots are on ground, and the model is located at 0,0,0, but my vr-space in a little bit (like 5-10cm) in the ground :/

[topaz dune]

did you try to move the hip bone up a bit?

[foggy terrace]

It's like this for now (https://ibb.co/g7BgSR), hope doing this this the problem ^^
Thanks

[compact wren]

should i auto rig my avatar in mixamo then edit it in unity?

[foggy terrace]

if your model is simple it's ok, but anyway you surely have to edit the weights later (I did it with blender)

[compact wren]

my mind will blend from this blender im gonna explode

i saw a vid from tupper about common bone issues and most of the stuff i have is not like in the vid

if i make a skirtroot skirt bones won't go with it

i was doing this for over 8 hours

does anyone know someone that's making avatars so easy for him? 😭

[fading verge]

ok so my model works and all

but now my friends say

they cant see me

while i can see myself in the mirrors and everywhere

[acoustic quiver]

uploading the model now... let's see how this goes

(let's hope it doesnt float when i walk)

[fading verge]

set

[cosmic mica]

my avatar is fully rigged and works, and the fingers ARE working and bending correctly in idle, but they will not respond to controller finger movements. what am i doing wrong?

[fading verge]

XYZ

to 0 0 0

[acoustic quiver]

funny thing is, this is supposed to be like, a more badass, more devastating version of normal dry bowser

yet it has 4k polys less

[fading verge]

https://imgur.com/WjDT50c

what does this mean?

[topaz dune]

seem's like the fingers aint weight painted to the finger bones

[low river]

Ok so

Can you add like, components to bones?

Like a particle emitter

[acoustic quiver]

so...... upon moving that foot bone down, the skeletal structure is now outside the model.

I assume it was because I resized it?

[tawny scroll]

Oh btw, why do some models I put as children of certain bones disappear? For example yesterday when I parented my wings to the shoulders they disappeared, currently under the spine and they work fine

[abstract hill]

https://i.imgur.com/yG01hvG.png?1 Any advice on how to properly weight paint/child these bones to the bunny ears? If I move the ears it bends the whole object rather than just pieces of it.

[acoustic quiver]

still T-posing after fixing that foot bone... hmmmm

[topaz dune]

if you move the bone that are parent of the ohter bones, the intire line will move. like moveing the hip around will move the intire skeleron around. so if the weight paint looks right and all the bones are mapped to the mesh, it's ready.

@abstract hill

@acoustic quiver is it in a t-pose in game?

[acoustic quiver]

yes

and idk whats wrong

[topaz dune]

go back to blender, if you applyed the armature tool. the bones will snap off the mesh, for some reason.

[acoustic quiver]

if i applied the whatnow

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/290311237663981569/402560931646668810/unknown.png it looks fine in unity

[topaz dune]

https://gyazo.com/dd22cddafc3e0fd5e5a51acd177a1ca4 this one.

[acoustic quiver]

i didnt touch that

[topaz dune]

allright so that's not the problem, i think i misunderstood the problem then.

[acoustic quiver]

character when walking was floating

so I moved the foot bone down into the foot

aaand that broke it

[fallow lake]

Skyfry you probably need to force t-pose. If you want Bowser to walk hunched over unfortunately you will more than likely have to make custom animations.

[acoustic quiver]

well forcing t-pose does this

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/290311237663981569/402561549962706954/unknown.png

the arms disconnect from

the arms

also the leg bones aren't in the legs

jeez

[fallow lake]

I dunno man that's a weird model

[acoustic quiver]

it was fine before, bar the floating when walking

[abstract hill]

When I "join the meshes" using CATS, are my constraints for the individual pieces removed? The ears dont move at all anymore after that.

[fading verge]

https://imgur.com/ralIhwT

[fallow lake]

Do you have the file saved before you moved the footbone?

[fading verge]

can anyone tell me why its laking long for this to upload? its been 5 mins

[acoustic quiver]

if not I can easily get it back

but i think i do

may need to start a new unity project

wait, yes i have the dae file

[fallow lake]

Not really sure what could cause that then skyfry

[grand bough]

hey does anyone know how to make Mixamo Rigs work right?

[fallow lake]

You're positive the position for all axis is set to zero?

[acoustic quiver]

yes

[fallow lake]

Toasty I have been trying to figure it out too. Makes my chest puff our and arms look really bad

[acoustic quiver]

gonna have to ask CommanderSnuggles

when he gets back up

[fallow lake]

Out*

[grand bough]

when I use Mixamo I can't crouch :/

[fallow lake]

Oh I dunno I don't use VR. Mixamo isn't the best. You may want to learn to rig yourself.

I think I am going to

[grand bough]

:/

[fallow lake]

Either that or use Mixamo as a starting point and go from there editing it

But if it isn't seeing you crouch you may need to check constraints on hips for I'm tracking

IK

[willow heath]

Hi there~ A friend of mine has a problem with avatar he wants to upload.

[torn isle]

What problem with the wrong?

Pardon, I cannot grammar today.

[willow heath]

Error says that models feet and upper arms aren't specified.

[torn isle]

What does his skeleton look like?

In rigging?

Is it all green?
\

[willow heath]

Yes, it is

[torn isle]

What type of model is he using?

Did he go through blender?

[willow heath]

Humanoid type

[torn isle]

Did he tick optimize game object?

[willow heath]

Discord won't upload the picture.

[torn isle]

In unity?

[willow heath]

I don't think so. 🤔

[torn isle]

Keep that unticked.

Did he use any tools like CATs tool?

[willow heath]

Oh, he managed with this problem now. Thanks for your help :3

[cosmic mica]

im losing my mind - my avatar rigging works, but the fingers are nto responding to controls. The fingers are working cause they are flexing correctly while in idle, they just simply are nto responding to controls. I made 3 different rigs and even took a working rig from another avatar i made and still the fingers work but will not respond to the controls. Ive never had this happen before, I dont know what to do.

[fading verge]

Guys

My avatar is this with all the blender configurations

But without reason in the unity seems nude and broken

[willow heath]

@cosmic mica if you have appropriate weights for each finger bone, I don't even know what is wrong.

[fading verge]

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But she is broken and nude

Anyone know how to fix it?

[brave root]

lable her lewd

[torn isle]

Select all materials and change rendering to cutout.

@fading verge

[fading verge]

Hahah thanks

I will get banned if one of his titst is explained?

[torn isle]

You can always delete nipples in blender.

[fading verge]

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Worth for the head but the clothes are broken

guys.. my blender bones are fine (i think), but unity turns them into this mess..

https://imgur.com/a/thECo

help pls, im noob af to custom models, but i rly want my wow char ingame

(picture of blender bones on same link aswell)

[granite kestrel]

@fading verge Yeah, you'll be banned

Also even if it's covered you still need to do the removal

[fading verge]

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[granite kestrel]

@fading verge looks like the character isn't weight painted

[fading verge]

Idk why it rip in unity, on blender it its complete without problems

[granite kestrel]

@fading verge Might be because some of the faces are inside out

[fading verge]

@granite kestrel I do get an issue in blender that it Bone heat weight fails, one or more bones somethingsomething. Any workaround it?