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#animation
fierce bane
top second pin in this channel
fierce bane
duplicating for any animation is the easy and safe prevention though, you can always delete it after
frigid heart
Yep thats how i always do it, just must have forgotten to click off the right one after hiding it
fierce bane
heh, I've done that too, technically you can just swap the duplicate and normal if you do that btw
fierce bane
it's an exact duplicate anyway, no difference except the name
frigid heart
Dupes gone
fierce bane
ah well, future knoweldge
frigid heart
Indeed
cold pulsar
Yeah but if you use the dupe it's not the SAME
cold pulsar
Exactly I only use OG avatars, no clones or dupes smh
frigid heart
hahah
proper hedge
@frigid heart what are you trying to do? By emote, do you mean gesture?
round basin
Hello! (Hopefully) Quick question; Are avatar emotes hard limited to 60 seconds? or can I make it last the full 90?
I'm just assuming there's a way since the animation I got lasted 75 seconds by itself... would be weird to do the extra work for nothing.
sharp badge
If I'm not mistaken it's only 30 seconds that emotes are limited to, not 60 or 90
round basin
nah mine's getting to exactly 60 seconds and ending.
But it seems like there's just a hard limit... which is weird then, why would someone make this 75 second dance emote for a VRChat avatar if the limit is 60 seconds?
clear yew
Because they didn't check the whole thing probably
odd latch
or, you can make it a toggle and it can last indefinitely
odd latch
what layer do I use to make particles interact with world objects? Like the targets in madcat, or the moon in avatar testing, I think I saw it destroyed once
I've put collision force on my projectiles and I was wondering why they couldn't interact with some world objects but I am able to put cracks on the mirror in avatar testing.
cold pulsar
Pretty sure that depends on the world. Usually the default layer is fine but the world maker could change the layers around for no reason and then your stuff wont work
odd latch
I guess, I just assumed that, being classic maps, avatar testing and madcat would have something like standard settings when it comes to world layers, and other map makers would follow suite
fierce bane
they'd have to make it public and get people to follow along
generally speaking, if you have it collide with everything but UI it should work
cold pulsar
Not that im aware of, for example, half of the first floor on the pug is a different layer than default for reasons
odd latch
my projectiles do collide with the objects because the subemitters on collide does trigger, it's just that the world objects don't react as intended
fierce bane
I'm not a fan of the pug due to the aggressive forced respawn if your collider slip outside
odd latch
apparently, there's a puzzle chain on the pug, probably the reason for different layers
fierce bane
world objects aren't all that likely to react TO your stuff unless they're designed to
cold pulsar
Theres no way to know what world makers are doing with their worlds or what layers they use. Most worlds use the default layer on EVERYTHING as people just dont change layers half the time
tough lodge
Yo, I got a question my guys. I made an animation where my character pulls out a sword with blendkeys when I do rocknroll
but when I release rocknroll, the sword veeeery slowly shrinks back down over a couple of seconds, even though it's a one frame animation
Is there a way to fix this?
sick loom
Add one more frame to your abimation of the sword
Same exact frame position just 0.01 ahead
spring nova
then it's not a one frame animation. You may have one keyframe (the little gray diamonds) but you need a keyframe at both 0:00 and 0:01 in order to make it actually one frame. Otherwise it defaults to one second (1:00)
tough lodge
Yeah, it has two frames of animation, at 0 and .01
unless I'm doing it wrong and I'm accidentally putting it one second ahead instead of doing it one frame ahead
Is this one frame ahead or did I set it up wrong?
tough lodge
I can't zoom in more
spring nova
no you probably need to zoom out
if there's one at 1:00
which can be placed automatically if you do add property
tough lodge
There isn't one at 1:00, I checked that also
I'm just gonna redo it with hiding and unhiding separate meshes I think, maybe I can do it with shapekeys later when I'm better 8)
spring nova
it's a problem with the gesture system as a whole, not shapekeys specifically
if that animation is fine, then it may be other animations. Or perhaps you even fixed it already without realizing it, and all you need to do is reupload
tough lodge
Okay, I reuploaded, but the problem is like...
it's like rocknroll is sticky now, I guess?
My hand doesn't want to go to the next hand gesture until a few seconds have passed
spring nova
yes, the transition away from the gesture is 4X the length of the animation. It's meant to last 5 frames, but if the animation is 1 second it will last 4 seconds
tough lodge
weird!
tough lodge
Have y'all ever had an issue where you like... stick a particle system on an arm, set it to Render with a certain gesture, but when you get in VRchat it's floating in its default position no matter what?
fierce bane
@tough lodge what exactly do you mena by "default position" ?
If the particle system is set to global simulation, any particle spawned will stay where it spawned unless it has something acting on it.
Also if it is set to global sim, you need a physics object (ik follower or rigid body on body part and fixed joint with particle outside it) in order for it to be in the correct location.
Otherwise if it's a local sim particle it should stay attached wherever you put it. (if it's not supposed to stay in world space it should be set to local sim)
tough lodge
It should be local, but lemme look
basically I mean it stays where I put it originally, even though moving the bone around in Unity moves the particle system too
It's supposed to look like this nonsense, but going in-game, the particle system ignores any bone movements and just chills shooting downwards and to the sides, just like that
fierce bane
a flamethrower? those are generally made with global particles so that the ones it fires outwards don't follow your arm movement once they leave your hand (keep going in same direction after you move)
bitter gyro
Broken rigidbodies maybe.
fierce bane
⬆️
bitter gyro
That aren't attached to any joints.
fierce bane
other way around, but yes
tough lodge
Should I like... add some empty rigidbodies and slap the particles in them and attach them to the bone joints, you think?
It's just weird to me that I can move the arm in Unity and the flames come with it, but in-game the particle system doesn't move at all
The flames are actually working great, if I could aim them
fierce bane
rigid body sits on the wrist/gun/whatever
Fixed joint has that rigid body set in it, and is outside the armature, with the particle under it
bitter gyro
Can have rigidbodies without joints. Can't have joints without rigidbodies. 😏 "Other way around".
fierce bane
sure you can, but the fixed joint is the one that points at the rigid body and says "I follow that" so the joint would likely be the one messed up and missing the rigid body target is what I meant
unless you were saying missing the target rigid body at all?
bitter gyro
Rigidbodies that aren't on hands and thus not being referenced by the joints therefore the joints don't move.
The issue is a missing rigidbody reference.
fierce bane
good point, so either way around then, my bad
tough lodge
Funky! Okay, I'll give adding a rigidbody a shot. I thought it'd be enough to just have it slapped directly onto the armature, but now that I'm thinking about it, when it's worked before for me, I had it sitting on an object attached to an armature instead...
fierce bane
not with global sim particles...vrchat is weird that way
tough lodge
Well, thanks, y'all 8)
fierce bane
if you have it directly attached to the wrist right now you could try just using the VRC_IKFollower on the wrist and put your particle under that
bitter gyro
Would be better anyway. It'd work in every instance.
tough lodge
I'll give that a shot!
clear yew
why my avatar sitting in unity?
clear yew
Do you mean the default muscle pose?
clear yew
ｙ
fierce bane
@clear yew 2nd pinned message in this channel
rustic mesa
is it possible to make the head of an avatar grow during an animation?
fierce bane
sure, just scale the head bone, or use a shapekey that does it
rustic mesa
but when i do that it reverts back to normal
fierce bane
animations revert back to normal when they end, yes...you'd need a toggle animation, like an inventory system for example to get around that
rustic mesa
how do i do that?
rustic mesa
ok it shows the new size values when i disable preview do i need to have it show up with preview on?
rustic mesa
this isnt working and its so frustrating how do i even get it to work?!
odd latch
you want an animation that makes your head grow bigger and it's permanent after the animation?
fierce bane
hit record, set the scale of the head to whatever increase you want it to be
rustic mesa
I did, but it just reverts to it's original values
odd latch
during the animation?
rustic mesa
Yeah
odd latch
I think he has that curve issue where the value drops back to default right after the keyframe that increases size value
fierce bane
click "curves" at the bottom, a screenshot would help
rustic mesa
the curves say the desired size
but the numbers on the left say the original values
fierce bane
restart unity...that's acting screwy
rustic mesa
does it usually happen with unity hub?
fierce bane
not a common thing, every program can glitch out though
rustic mesa
is there a way to force the animation?
fierce bane
did you restart?
fierce bane
it sounds like the animation is in reverse...as in you set the values and then recorded it at 1.00
rustic mesa
i think i got it to work
but im not really sure
nope didnt work
actually im getting an error on the inspector
a binding warning
i think this is the source of my problem
fierce bane
you're not adjusting position or rotation right?
rustic mesa
right
fierce bane
go to blender, make a shape key that does it...your issues is you cannot animate the humanoid bones at all
Sorry, I thought scale worked fine...
You could technically get around it by having a dummy bone as the rig's head, and having the actual head parented to that...then scale it...but no real reason to do it
rustic mesa
yeah everything that i import in unity that comes from blender ALWAYS screws up somehow
so im just gonna use a dummy head
wait
how do you change the animation to a humanoid clip?
fierce bane
using animator. properties for the animation instead of normal transforms
I don't think there's any for scale, but I could be wrong
violet sundial
hi im a bit new idk if there is a easier way to do this. like maybe posing the model and making the legs not weight painted to anything but. i have a Raven avatar from teen titans. and i want to make a walk cycle where she just floats around with her legs crossed. what would be the easiest way of approaching this even if its not with animation. i just didnt know where to put this
fierce bane
@violet sundial In blender, you want to create a second pair of legs, that second pair of legs you leave un weighted, and assign those as the legs in the Unity rig setup.
Then animate the legs with weight to them how you want.
The only issue with this atm is that the Networked IK doesn't transfer the info needed for non-humanoid bones in custom animations except idle. (it doesn't transfer the x/z movement across the networked IK, so others wouldn't see what you would)
A gesture can still do it just fine though, as it says "do this" instead of "if moving, do this"
If your idle has the legs where you want them already though, the other humanoid bones would animate properly.
odd latch
how do you make limbs not follow controller/tracker movement? I'm just curious, I'm not planning on making idle/movement animations any time soon.
fierce bane
By having a fake skeleton for anything you want to animate outside of an emote
violet sundial
@fierce bane how would i make it so there is no bobbing from the walking animation
fierce bane
@violet sundial I haven't tried to do so, but I think you would need to make a custom walk animation and have the root not move?
fierce bane
humanoid animation, one of the options should be root
violet sundial
i found it but
its not letting me disable or remove anything
its all greyed out
fierce bane
I did say you have to make a custom one, not edit it
violet sundial
oh sorry im a bit tired
fierce bane
you might be able to ctrl+D to duplicate it, but I'm not sure if that works or not with those
but you should really make a custom walk animation if you want it to look good while floating
violet sundial
hey @fierce bane im really sorry to continually keep pinging you but is this okay im not entirely sure if im doing this right it keeps giving me errors because the weightless legs im using are not children of the right bones
also thank you for the help
fierce bane
it's not parented to the hips, fix that
the parenting should be the same if they're going in the humanoid rig
violet sundial
😮 oh yeh uh ye i knew that .... XD
i kno this is another form of the bicycle pose that happens when you enter preview or record. but i forget if this matter will this happen to my in game model when it animates im really new to making animations for things other than particles and what not
violet sundial
yeh its not working im not sure how to do this
violet sundial
im at a loss @fierce bane if i delete or change the root positions to 0 it does that in the picture what exactly am i supposed to do?
fierce bane
you don't change them to 0, what you're seeing IS 0, set them to a proper height but keep it constant
chilly kernel
i wanna add song that plays from my avatars headphones but since audio stuff in vrc been updated so many times is there anything specific i should add or do to it
clear yew
Nope, you do it the same way you always have.
chilly kernel
bnut onsp script isnt a thing
and animating the normal audio doesnt turn it quieter or decrease the range
the range is bit too long
cold pulsar
It's not onsp audio anymore it's a new component. I'm pretty sure it's called audio spacializer but you can read about it on the docs
chilly kernel
seems like every single one of the settings have something to do with range
exept gain
cold pulsar
Should be able to change range and the graph that explains the range
chilly kernel
yis thanks 😄
bitter gyro
It's essentially the old component. It even bugs the game the same.
Don't worry, not much has actually changed.
gaunt wing
anyone in here mess with inventory system for avatars?
I'd like for the fingers to be wrapped around the gun when I do the enable emote
bitter gyro
The only real way to do that is to swap hand meshes with the emote also. @gaunt wing
Otherwise, IK takes over.
You'd have a duplicate hand, posed to hold the gun. And your actual hand would either be a seperate mesh or seperate material that you would hide.
Since inventory system, probably just a separate mesh.
So it'd require a hand mesh for the gun and the original hand to be a separate mesh.
And you'd swap them.
odd latch
How do I make my audio source not the loudest at its center? I want it to be equally loud within a 10m radius around the source
I changed the curve min to 10 but it's not working in-game, at least not as I want it to be.
cold pulsar
odd latch
I tried that, still a point source, maybe I messed up the audio sourced for tweaking too many settings
cold pulsar
I dont have any experience with it tbh so gl. Just wanted to make sure you're aware of the docs
odd latch
through trial and error, I kind of made my audio sources immersive for what they are
despite the tooltips, I still don't understand what the settings on the vrc audio component are for, probably because I'm confused why it's necessary when the audio source component already has the same settings
bitter gyro
@odd latch Tried the 2D-3D slider in the audiosource's settings?
It'd be set to 2D for that use case.
vital peak
I have animations but I need to put them in animation controllers to put on the model, anyone know how to?
fierce bane
what kind of animation? what does it animate exactly?
@vital peak depending on what you need it to do, suggetions would be different
vital peak
I have a model, which I want to basically dance, and I have an animation for it, but the animator on the avatar on uses animation controllers
and the model is not my avatar, it's a separate part of the animation
gaunt wing
anyone here have a muzzleflash prefab with light sources and stuff? Trying to work on that gun still
fierce bane
@vital peak so you want to activate a separate model that has a dance animation?
twilit oak
I completely forgot, what was the regular solution for fixing "Binding error: (S)ome Generic clips animate transforms..."
fierce bane
@twilit oak animations affecting humanoid mapped bones must use the animator.<something> properties, not directly adjusting position or rotation, scale doesn't work either.
So most likely you have something messing with those transforms.
twilit oak
Thank you! I'll check that out
near meadow
man. search system's still busted. alright, is there any better way to make chairs besides the default prefab? it plants my avatar there, but as everyone here already knows, it ruins gestures and expressions and all that
the only way to make it work would be to make my own override for my own character i think? with her gestures? hm
clear flicker
Sitting gestures and animations are separated from standing ones yes
cold pulsar
You should have an animator for "custom sitting" and "custom standing" slots in the avatar descriptor. Can use the same one if you don't override your idle
vital peak
Trying to put an animation onto a model but the model will just stand still when I press play
cold pulsar
Wheres the animation? You don't really want it to play automatically in game.
If you have an animator component on one of the ancestors of the thing you want to animate you just need to set it up so that the anjmator plays the animation on start.
hollow perch
Also @vital peak make sure your animation was imported as humanoid if your model is humanoid
fleet stirrup
how do I add a sound for snapping someone? like this?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9wudBaCiGgY at 3:30
bleak raft
question how do i bring the red bar so that it hits the 1 so the face gesture animation can go from 0 to 1
fierce bane
@bleak raft are you saying you want it to slowly change from 0 to 1?
bleak raft
in the video theres a guy saying to make sure the animation is from 0 to 1
or am i getting it wrong
fierce bane
I don't know what you're talking about there
what are you trying to do exactly?
just the best description you can do
bleak raft
add facial expressions into open hands
but im afraid of the red bar you see not reaching 1
like where it says 0:00 and then 0:01
or do i need to not pay attention to that
fierce bane
it works exactly the same as everything else in gestures
The only difference is that you set it to 100 for full effect instead of 1 like a lot of other components
so at 0:00 and 0:01 you should have it set at 100
bleak raft
is it set to 100
fierce bane
as long as both keyframes are set to 100 you're good
bleak raft
both keyframes?
fierce bane
the diamond shapes are keyframes
so frames 0:00 and 0:01 should both be the same (or it will flicker)
I'm pretty sure that's also what the video you mentioned was saying
fierce bane
No. Though I'd suggest zooming out and making sure it isn't going out to 1:00 range just to be sure
if you drag on the time bar where that red is you should see the hand and face in the same position on both 0:00 and 0:01, if so, it's working fine
fierce bane
zoom out
You can either click and drag on the edges of the horizontal bar, or you can hover over the keyframe area and scroll the mousewheel
fierce bane
keep going untill you see 1:00 to make sure you don't have any auto-added keyframes on it
otherwise from what I can see it looks fine
bleak raft
fierce bane
no frames, should work fine
also, ALWAYS turn off recording once you've recorded what you want (prevents accidentally messing it up with other changes)
noble shell
Just means they are used in that animation
fierce bane
if you unclick preview you'll see that vanish
bleak raft
waiiiit are you the thulen i know
ohhh i see i see
now its ready to put into hands open in the over ride correct
noble shell
Probably not im barely on Discord, mostly just stand in vrchat doing random stuff
bleak raft
are you a friend of cheeky
noble shell
know a few , if its Pea then yeah
lime crown
i want to make an emote stay in loop untill i cancelit by moving, how do i do that
bitter gyro
Can't really make an emote loop, but you can make the emote toggle something that drops in world space but is killed when a trigger collider that's on the avatar moves off and away from it.
Probably would make a good prefab. I might draft something later. But yeah, it might be a hassle if you're not familiar with those systems.
I mean, I can explain it, but I might have to explain a dozen other things first, so I don't really feel excited about that.
lime crown
like enote have 8 second, cant i make it go up to like lets say 24 seconds
somehow duplicate the dance
arctic roost
I've seen people add costum blinking animations to their models and animations for tail to move, how do you add those?
hollow olive
how to make world mesh particles aligned to shape direction and saving their rotation while rotating parent source?
deft schooner
fierce bane
@arctic roost if you don't have any blinking already, you can place an animator on the body mesh, and create an animation from there that does the blinking for you. (if you change any face shapes you can also disable the behavior of that animator to stop the blinking interfering with it as well)
And a tail wag would be the same, except it would be on the root of the tail instead of the body mesh, animating (usually) just the first bone of the tail, and using dynamics to have it move otherwise. (you can just fully animate it though)
lime crown
so i found it, basically i copypaste the animation itself . lets say animation ends at 9 seconds, i paste the animation again pointing to minute 9,1 and that way it keep looping depending how many times you do it
so basically i just did 8 seconds loop for 30 seconds 🙂
viral locust
hey was wondering where can i find cool animations
pls @viral locust if you respond
north falcon
whats the best configuration for a walk animation? in unity looks very well but in game no :C
arctic roost
@fierce bane How do I disable blinking? what's the name of the option to do that or where to find it?
fierce bane
@arctic roost You'll have to change path on this to be just body but it covers what you need. You can't add the behavior component manually without other work
to change the path you just select the component in the animation and hit F2 then edit it
arctic roost
So the template you just gave me is basically the blinking animation disabled and I just have to change the path in the animation to "body" and it'll work? where do I place the animation? @fierce bane
fierce bane
it just disables an animator's behavior without disabling the object, that's it
you use that as part of any gesture that you want to also disable the blinking
near meadow
man. i wish i could make a cross-legged sit, but that requires changing muscle stretch limits, which makes my avatar goose-step when she strafes
i'm not even asking for help so much as venting
😤
odd latch
asking once more what settings should I tweak in spatial audio script component if I want audio of a 15m radius area that's being bombarded by mortar
for starters, I want consistent loudness within 8m radius
if anything, I just want better understanding of the values on the component, I'm no longer satisfied with just trial and error
hybrid merlin
Right so
Im trying to add an animation where the sword on my avatar's back shrinks and the sword in his hand grows. The sword in his hand grows like normal but the sword on his back does this
Anyone know why this might happen?
cold pulsar
Are the swords particles or something? Would probably be best to use bone scale, object scale, or blendshapes and then scale them via auto playing animator that you enable
hybrid merlin
just a heads up. This is meant to be a gesture override but I havent made it into one yet. It just has the animation
The swords are 3d models
cold pulsar
Do you wan the scale to be instant or gradual
hybrid merlin
Instant
cold pulsar
Then all you have to do is set up your gesture to have the new scales for the swords. Since they are seperate objects you can just scale their transform
odd latch
I don't get why people have to try so hard in optimization by using blendshapes for props, just go for the toggle on toggle off method since it's the easiest and least immersion-breaking
hybrid merlin
I didnt know I could do that
odd latch
two swords, one on your back, one on your hand, default is sword on back is on and sword on hand is off
gesture animation is one frame of disabling sword on back and enabling sword on hand
proper hedge
most people do not know techniques for animating avatars and just do what they discover or are told
hybrid merlin
By disabling you mean..
odd latch
plenty of tutorials on youtube, try following those first, ask questions here for stuff you don't get
proper hedge
by disabling he means using the gesture override to set the game object inactive
game objects can be active/inactive, or enabled/disabled
if they're disabled, the components on them won't play/be visible
hybrid merlin
I've never do gesture overrides before so this is all new for me
odd latch
is that a finger pose pack?
proper hedge
yeah
hybrid merlin
Thanks
proper hedge
try to find a video that does basic gesture overrides
i dont have any videos that are that basic, this is the closest one where i use that gesture manager
im doing stuff with gestures here, if you want to look at a workflow for hints
gesture manager will help you test in the editor. the mixamo gestures are just hand animations to work off of
lime crown
im looking for an animation that is used or works well with the y2k lalala song if anyone have suggestions or someone with an emote like that please let me know.
regal cedar
anyone know how to make a toggleable emote which turns two meshes off and turns on one and then secondary to do opposite
cold pulsar
If we are talking about immersion and realism then the best way is changing the location of one sword using final IK but that would be dumb to recommend to everyone
fierce bane
Immersion wise the disable/enable method only requires you to position your hand over the other sword, which is the same for the final IK one. Final IK just takes one less object in total. The effect is the same though minus the knowledge of the creator that there are two swords.
hybrid merlin
@proper hedge Im sorry for the ping but I was following your video and it was going well until I had to add the gesture manager while in game mode
I dont know if I just missed something by accident or what but I get this message
I've tried everything I can think of and reading that github link didnt give me answers
any idea what could of gone wrong?
i've never used gesture manager before so Im sure its some stupid mistake I've made
bitter gyro
Gesture manager depends on the model having its descriptor with its Override set up.
@hybrid merlin
hybrid merlin
by descriptor you mean this?
lofty pewter
currently my favourite animation
agile rune
Ah yes, a fellow TF2 fan
clear yew
guys can someone help me to make easy animation ... i dont know how
clear yew
i want make something on me what will say im deaf..
hybrid merlin
anyone know why I cant add any more properties? I cant add properties on other gestures aswell
bitter gyro
You need to have them in an animator controller.
And that controller needs to be in an animator component.
The animation doesn't know where to look in order to add properties without it being inside the hierarchy of something. To put it simply.
@hybrid merlin
bitter gyro
Yes. Then, to continue animating with that controller, you'd have to select the object that animator component is on and then you should see the controller's animation set in the Animation tab. You'd click the drop down where the animation name is to pick the different animations to edit.
@hybrid merlin
I didn't notice you replied, my bad.
Make sure you're using a duplicate.
Unless you know the revert back to T pose fix.
But, generally, a duplicate is simpler.
bitter gyro
Nah, it'd be the object in the scene. So if that animator component is on the root of your avatar, you'd select that.
hybrid merlin
so it would be none of these
bitter gyro
In the scene. The uhh.. hierarchy tab.
hybrid merlin
hang on while I quickly look through it
bitter gyro
That screenshot you sent before where you asked if it looked right.
When you took that screenshot, you had the object it was on selected in order to see that in the inspector.
hybrid merlin
oh that
bitter gyro
It's just the terminology that's mixing you up. No worries.
The thing in the Projects folder is the controller file.
hybrid merlin
ah I see
I got it working
thank you again ^^
odd latch
so I saw this avatar, the stand stays still if the wheelchair is nearby but it starts following the wheelchair when it moves far enough
I was wondering how to make this setup and if it's possible with a sub-armature/body, like a spirit that stays in place when you're nearby and follows you when you move far away
dynamic bones? spring joints?
fierce bane
it's probably just a spring joint, yes...you'll have to play around with it until you get one that works
odd latch
Spring Joints it is, but where do I anchor the object if I want it to follow my general location?
World object setup without the toggle plus spring joint? anchored to where?
Is it safe to put a rigid body component on my avatar object?
proud laurel
It is indeed. They're widely used alongside fixed joints for various animation tricks. Setting it to the hip bone should be fine, and the world object itself should just sit in the top-most tier of the avatar heirarchy alongside the body and armature.
Just make sure to disable gravity and angular drag on the rigidbodies. Otherwise your prop is gonna fall through the floor when you turn it on in an animation.
odd latch
I already have a fixed joint setup with my sub-body, I just wanted to give it more life by having a spring joint setup with it
do I put the spring joint on the sub-body's hip and connect it to the main body's hip
or do I put the spring joint on an empty object where the sub-body's armature is parented to?
fierce bane
@odd latch Make a dummy object on the armature, same level as armature/body and put a rigid on that, set your spring target to that and that'll follow your location ignoring any poses
odd latch
what about the spring's rigid body settings? infinity on drag and angular drag?
fierce bane
infinity is used for "stay still forever"
odd latch
well, in the editor, the spring works the way I like it, so far
but in-game, the sub-body is still stuck on my back, instead of trailing behind when I move, nor is it stuck in the world, despite giving the sub-armature with infinity drag/angular drag
fierce bane
show me hierarchy and let me know where you have the joint and rigid
odd latch
fierce bane
what constraints do you have on fixed joint?
odd latch
no constraints, currently in-game and testing, spring joint isn't working
fierce bane
all constraints are unchecked?
odd latch
position and rotation constraints are unchecked
fierce bane
what is the purpose of that joint?
odd latch
it's so it can follow the rotation of my main body's hips, just as the chest, head, and arms are set up in the same way
fierce bane
rotation should be checked then
that won't solve the issue with the spring joint though
can you show the spring joint setup?
odd latch
with the angular/drag at infinity on the object, I assumed it would act as a world object, and the spring would pull it towards my location, but despite that setup, the object is still stuck behind me
pale ruin
how much emote time limit for now?
fierce bane
@odd latch most likely the issue you're see is that when you walk, it doesn't move right?
Since you can't separate the "you" object from the spring object, so it moves as one with locomotion. But moving in VR (physically moving around) should have it follow you.
The only way I can think of to make it actually trail behind you would be dynamic bones.
@pale ruin I think emotes are 30seconds...someone correct me if I'm wrong
pale ruin
Can make it longer?
fierce bane
that depends on what you're trying to use it for
pale ruin
i put dance animation into it and animation is 1.50 min but it look like it stop around 1 min
fierce bane
best thing I can suggest would be to use a gesture to activate a duplicate that animates instead of using an emote.
pale ruin
well i don't want to duplicate more model in my avatar is to much now 😢
fierce bane
@odd latch rough examples with only basic assets, dynbone version obviously needs dynbones imported first.
Just drop a prefab in the scene and rotate/move it to see how it reacts.
Spring version has a "move to test" object so you can see the difference between moving the avatar object, and moving the IK powered bones (vr movement)
Spring joints work much better for something you can move easily, like a ball on a string attached to the finger for example
@pale ruin I think your only option is a "part 1" and "part 2" emote then...maybe someone else has an idea
fleet stirrup
how can I trigger sound when I touch object?
stoic valley
I might need a bit of help on something. In unity, I have some idle animation on a model that's set to appear on a gesture of another avatar. A "stand", I guess. The idle animation moves the model around, but does not move the bones, setting the model in a frozen sort of state in the position of the first frame of animation. So it's frozen, but the body moves as if it's doing the idle animation. This is what the animation looks like for the avatar set to appear:
It works fine in unity, and plays 24/7 when I go into the game field. In vrchat, though, is where it freezes.
fleet stirrup
@stoic valley you have to create animation on duplicated model not original one. it will crash or not working if you didn't
odd latch
suppose I want a spinning drill, can I animate it with blendshapes and loop it in unity
or just make the rotating animation on unity?
stoic valley
ah
i now duplicated the wario things as well, the different animations are named, but duped from the Better Waaa model
lets see if this works
clear yew
Okay so I'm using xiere invo system and the world joint prefab, the issue im having is that sometimes the object stays in place and other time its falling straight through the floor? Is there something else I could use? Or is there a better system or something? Its a pole so I rather it not have the mesh collider on the pole. Thanks in advance! 😅
teal wing
I have a question type of thing
I made a custom idle animation and now my left leg and left foot spaz out
My left arm*
icy hare
Hey guys, how can I create an animation that plays a song and part way through the song, some particle effects activate and stay on until I end the animation? I can get the song to play easily enough as I've done basic animations before, but never made anything where something appears at a specific time
I did try just shoving in a key in the middle where I wanted it and telling it to turn on the particles, but that didn't seem to work. Thanks in advance!
fleet stirrup
how can I trigger sound like this?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_nt8F2TiU2s
pure sparrow
Anyone got some martial art animations I can use?
bitter gyro
@fleet stirrup That's not even on an avatar. It's a world object.
And the video is edited. It could be the sound was added afterwards too.
But as I mentioned before, you can add it to another gesture and just trigger it with good timing, or learn how to use stop-action for it.
fleet stirrup
@bitter gyro no. I see him doing it in live streaming on twitch. it's not world object.
it's not edited afterwards
where can I find good tutorial for it? I can't find anywhere at all.
fleet stirrup
it is hard for me because I don't know how to do it. and can't find how to do it.....:(
is it use vrc_trigger?
bitter gyro
No.
More than likely it's another gesture.
I have doubts that your average streamer would have stop-action or even know what it is.
fleet stirrup
is(stop-action) it one of component?
bitter gyro
No, it's a complex, user created system that uses a combination of particle systems and animators.
It's kind of a pain to try and explain it casually.
Without explaining a bunch of other things you'd probably need to know beforehand.
fleet stirrup
is there have site that I can learn?
I search youtube but there is only basic tutorials in it. not much else.
bitter gyro
You can either try searching RetroGEO on Youtube or oofdesu on github for some good starting points.
fleet stirrup
I show them all.
and I applied most of them what I need. but I can't figure out that punch animation
bitter gyro
If they're explanations are still too complicated, then you may need to either ask someone to help you or take some time to learn some of the basics.
fleet stirrup
i don't know. what I can find on youtube are all I already watch it or too old that outdated.
or doesn't exist what i want to know.
import mmd into blender
use cat plugin to optimize
export fbx
import to unity
use vrchatSDK to upload avatar
that's most of the youtube tutorials...-_-
well, some of them are explain simple add prop and animations but not so advanced
gaunt wing
so I made a large ship with an animation where it flies in but its too far away usually for anyone to see up until its right in their face, any way to fix this?
like it kinda just appears out of nowhere
wide heron
This seems like a more fitting place to ask. Probs a bad question but, i have a lightsaber animation and would like to know how to keep the blade out instead of the animation looping
So, keeping the animation/blade out when it reaches the end of the animation
bleak raft
How can i have a animation not stop? cause i figured it out on why my anims are breaking but theres another issue where my animation will stop at a certain point and i already checked the loop box to , any solution? any help is greatly appreciated
proper hedge
Is it an emote? A gesture? @bleak raft
@wide heron you're likely going to want to use an animator controller
First state ignites, and have it rest on the second state. If you need to animate the exit (un-ignites), you use an animator which does the reverse as the first one
Unfortunately, controlling animators with gestures kinda sucks and nobody documents it
proper hedge
I wish I could explain everything you need, but it's a lot of typing
@wide heron best bet to get your feet wet is to look at retrogeo's animator tutorial to grasp basics, but that's all it'll do for you. Unfortunately there is no package with the hand interface you would likely want that animates entry/exit seamlessly like you need
The closest thing is the example in my multi-hand trigger package
If you figure out how that example works you can animate anything with seamless entry/exit transitions
bleak raft
emote @proper hedge
wide heron
woah never heard of this >.>
proper hedge
@bleak raft an emote is a fixed length animation, so it will always stop after a fixed time
bleak raft
but it stops really early
wide heron
Also, Thanks lin. This seems like a good starting point, i might check it out.
proper hedge
How long is the animation you're trying to play? Where does it stop?
bleak raft
1 stops instantly
and another stops like after a little tiny bit of the beginning
@proper hedge
proper hedge
Can you screenshot your emote animation clip
proper hedge
i don't see anything wrong really. a ~20 second dance and a ~4 second dance
if you put these clips in your emote overrides i don't see anything that would stop them from completing
proper hedge
if they're playing to completion, but are just too short, the limit is something annoying like 30 seconds, so you might not be able to make it as long as you want
you can work around it, though
how long do you need each dance to be?
do you want indefinite looping, or just a few seconds longer?
bleak raft
1 song is like 3min and i think the other is more
proper hedge
you are going to want to toggle on a duplicate avatar, in that case
bleak raft
So have one avatar checked
Like have my main and the dupes that have the song check marked
?
proper hedge
instead of animating your own armature, to dance, you will create a child object of your avatar, and it will be a duplicate of your avatar, with an animator controller on it, dancing. the entire animation will just be part of that duplicate avatar. your emote then does a cheeky thing to animate this avatar on and leave it on
you can optionally make yourself invisible at this time, or leave the duplicate in world space
so you can watch it
proper hedge
it's not hard but it's a lot to explain. there might be videos on parts of it, but like the whole correct thing is probably not documented anywhere. im pretty sure there are videos of a basic setup from someone
bleak raft
Crap
bleak raft
What if i dont wanna make myself invisible
proper hedge
cause most simple methods would cause you to oof your eye tracking
then its pretty simple
bleak raft
What do i do ?
proper hedge
drop a world object, this is a way to do it with an emote
2 methods, ik and physics
you need final ik for the ik one to work
proper hedge
yeah, but it'll be kinda shaky when you start and stop moving. in concept it works the same though
so figure out that package, its not hard
has instructions
use the emote
replace the cube with a copy of your avatar that is dancing
change the animator on your duplicated avatar to "Animate Always", not "Cull Update Transforms"
remove the avatar descriptor from the duplicate
that's about it
bleak raft
Mind if you dm'd me those files and copy and paste what u said
proper hedge
sure
bleak raft
Since ill have to try it later since im on my way to work
karmic hazel
i was wondering if anyone here knows how to make does animation on a avatar who dosnt follow you wen you move around the world
proper hedge
look at the packages posted above @karmic hazel
ik one if you have final ik, otherwise use a joint
figure out how it works, there are instructions, replace the cube with an object that has an animator on it
karmic hazel
does anybody else use the world fixed animation (idk if the animation who dosnt follow you are called like that ) bc if yes then i got a few questions
rustic mesa
how do i shrink other peoples avatar when they sit on a chair avatar?
sick loom
I dont think you can do that. Might be possible with a shader but I am not sure
fierce bane
Yes you can. The station has an animation slot, just have the pose you want, and adjust the scale in it too @rustic mesa
sick loom
But can you shring the person thats sitting on it?
fierce bane
"adjust the scale in it too" that's what I was saying yes you can to
sick loom
How will the viewpoint of the avatar handle that?
fierce bane
don't have an answer there, sorry. I've seen people do it, I just never get in seats
fierce bane
never heard any complaints about it though, so I'd assume the fact that you're scaling an entire active object it probably moves with it...can't be sure without testing though
sick loom
Well in unity it doesnt and I dont think you can move it on the go like that
But for that purpose it doesnt really matter
minor pulsar
Greetings, may I have someone to teach me how to drop an avatar and doing the dance that stay at same place instead following me. This is for gesture overrides
minor pulsar
Fyi, almost understand bout gesture overrides things and duplicate. But what confuse me is how I gonna make that avatar "NOT' following me while doing the animation
sick loom
Add a fixed joint to it and dont attach it to anything
fierce bane
also if you don't set up an animator and use a behavior toggle for it it'll offset after every time
bleak raft
isnt fixed IK better
fierce bane
are you talking about final IK?
bleak raft
yes
fierce bane
that's a $90 paid asset...not something I suggest most of the time, and not to someone new (even less likely to want it)
bleak raft
I have it
however i dont know how to use it
with 2 of my existing dupes
with animations on them where i want to leave them in 1 spot
while im running around
fierce bane
I don't know final IK well enough to know if it can be used for that, setting up a fixed joint is easy, especially if you just use a prefab
bleak raft
is there a video you can link me about doing the animation model thing with a joint
fierce bane
lin gave you the package yesterday
follow the instructions in it, replace the cube with your duplicate
minor pulsar
@sick loom OMG thank you so much I ask my friend but they're just ignore me
But I realize sometimes the animation itself shaking/vibrate. Is it normal?
Is this what you mean by 'offset' @fierce bane ?
The animation shaking/vibrate when Idle, but when walk around it it turn normal.
fierce bane
set the drag/angular drag to "Infinity"
minor pulsar
Sorry for dumb question but where exactly you mean I need to set that
Is it at the .anim file or the gesture active
fierce bane
neither, it's in the fixed joint
minor pulsar
Alright I'm gonna tried it. BRB
fierce bane
the shakyness should be significantly reduced...but there is likely to still be some...downfall of the workaround
fierce bane
the offset I was talking about is that every time you activate it, if you don't stay still and not turn it'll be off at least a little bit the next summon, because it'll stay the distance and rotation it was in based on you.
so if you move or turn it won't be in the same spot when you next activate it.
rustic mesa
@fierce bane how do I "scale it in"? Also there's no animation slot, just an animation controller slot
bitter gyro
@sick loom @fierce bane The shrinking is only visual. We're not able to animate the descriptor since it's removed on upload. So the viewpoint can't be animated.
I meeean, you can make a Rube Goldberg machine using cameras and final IK to get the illusion of a moving viewpoint though.
proper hedge
I feel like there was something about chair that made the viewpoint work out
I remember doing this a while ago and being surprised about how neat it was, and I don't remember the viewpoint being a problem
Might not have scaled, can't remember, but view wasn't an issue while tiny
bitter gyro
Your viewpoint typically stays where it was initially.
Since it's not on a bone or anything, so scaling would be ignored.
So like, that plane had everyone's viewpoint in the same place.
Even though the models were shrunk into their seats.
For example.
I think I made a reference no one will understand...
rustic mesa
What if I wanted to do it for quest?
Plus IDC about the viewpoint I just want the model shrunk
unreal kernel
how do i animate cloned avatars and make them all do the same animation? would i have to do the same animation over and over?
clear yew
Same concept as usual, make their idle animation what you want them to do
unreal kernel
so just basically drag and drop the animation onto them basically
minor pulsar
Somehow the animation still shaking when Idle mode. Already set the drag/angular to "Infinity".
odd latch
proper world fixed joint objects are more complex than that
here's a prefab
I kind of didn't use it, because I just studied what's needed to set up world objects and manually made my setup
I think you can still ask questions about it here because I got it from here, too
@minor pulsar
whoops, apparently someone already gave you this package
unreal kernel
hey what setting can i change to make a sound to be heard from farther distances
brazen plinth
A question. Can we continue to make custom blink animations?
This is the configuration and does not work in the game.
torn pawn
animation component doesn't work in vrchat anymore, you need to use animator
unreal kernel
no one knows how to increase volume in an audio source? i cant seem to find it lmaooo
clear yew
VRCSDK automatically adjusts your audio, if you want it louder use multiple sound sources of the same audio or boost the audio of the source file through a third party like audacity
Animation component is depreciated, use animator.
It’s easy to convert between them there are plenty of tutorials for it
rustic mesa
i am so frustrated how do i shrink avatars on chairs?!
im still trying to find out
theres no tutorials out about it and its so complicated
do i do something with the animation??
this is so confusing!!
fierce bane
@rustic mesa just adjust the scale in the animation you put on the station...that's it
and as far as Quest goes...things are HEAVILY limited because it is an extremely weak platform in comparison
proud laurel
Shrinking chairs requires you create an animation that shrinks the avatar. You want the Transform at the top of the "Add Property" selections when making an animation. Use that to set the size you want, along with the pose as-usual. You put that in an AVATAR's custom-override animation controller in the IDLE slots, and put that controller in the controller slot of your VRC_Station.
Be aware that that scaling is RELATIVE TO THE AVATAR MODEL'S NORMAL SIZE. If someone gets on it and they're overly-massive instead, that's not your fault. It just means the actual model size is actually massive and the creator re-scaled it in Unity.
sly stratus
So on the Custom Override Empty assets, I'm missing all of the emote slots. I've tried re-importing the asset both from the VRC SDK and from the avatar I'm working on. Is there any way to get those slots back? Never mind, husband figured out that the AvatarControllerTemplate was borked and just sent me his instead.
prime lark
I have some end frame problems with hand gestures, I made one animation and since it have like 3 seconds animation duration, when I switch to another hand gesture the other ones does not stop till a few seconds later
for example, if I wag and trigger say "open hand" the open hand triggers slowly, taking more than 6 seconds to bleed from the wag into the other gesture
cold pulsar
You cant have a gesture longer than 1 frame. If you want to do something longer youll need to have a 1 frame gesture that enables an object with the longer animation on it that plays on awake
prime lark
well, I see lots of avatars with long animations gestures
but gonna try that @cold pulsar, thanks
cold pulsar
Yeah they are doing what I said. Any gesture longer than 1 frame causes the issue you are talking about.
Usually gestures are reserved for enabling objects or other 1 frame actions because of this
cold pulsar
No prob good luck
cold pulsar
Just set em to 100 in unity on the body before upload. They'll stay that way IIRC
cold pulsar
Well if you set them to 100 you can just set them to whatever else via animation. They'll just start at 100 instead of 0
bitter gyro
While you can toggle shapekeys, I don't recommend it. You'd have to use alternative eye tracking and a chain of animator parents and proxies. @unkempt stump
Any other method would just be worse
fierce bane
you can just use the same model you already have, set the values in blender and "create new from mix" and apply as basis after that
you'd have the same issue trying to turn them on with shapekeys instead of turning them off though...You'd be better off with objects if you want a toggle system honestly
Most likely no. What exactly are you doing with the animation?
Is it hiding the body and enabling a duplicate, or something like that?
freezing at certain points I'm not sure...but if you hide the body with a material change, those don't show in mirrors at all
if you have VR you can try using holoport and then activating your gesture while in mid-move (while you see your avatar away from you)
bleak raft
I think they mention a fix for that when vrc updates soon of not being able to see your animation on mirrors
deft schooner
sick loom
@deft schooner why is this here?
deft schooner
@sick loom Oh sorry. Where is the art chat?
echo wraith
So this is probably animation 101 and somehow I missed it. I have a model that dances on my hand locally but for everyone else it's far to the right. Anyway to fix this?
fierce bane
@echo wraith did you just place the model under your wrist in the hierarchy?
echo wraith
My left hand
fierce bane
didn't use a fixed joint or anything, correct?
fierce bane
it doesnt, that should have it anchored in the hand properly
is it enabled with a gesture or something?
echo wraith
Yes it is
I think it might be because I disabled object instead of mesh renderer, gonna try that now though
fierce bane
object is fully disabled while not in use?
fierce bane
if that doesn't fix it you can make a dummy object to place the model in, have an animator, and have it reset the model's position with a looping animation
echo wraith
Hmm, good idea. Thanks for the help. 🙂
echo wraith
The dummy object idea will probably be the solution sadly, but this is a Quest avatar and it hates the extra animators. I'll probably attach it to something more stable than a hand bone
fierce bane
oh boy...quest has some heavy limitations...
what you were doing should be fine unless something is different with the way quest does it, or there's a physics object interfering where it shouldn't be
@echo wraith when other people see it off to the side, is it still animating, just to the side of where it should be?
echo wraith
Yes
PC and Quest users are seeing the same thing where it's in the distance from the hand
fierce bane
do you have anything on the dancing avatar other than the animator?
echo wraith
No, just that
fierce bane
you could move the animator up one level, fix your components in the animation, and add in the avatar's reset all as one animator if you're trying to avoid extras
I'm not sure why it's doing that though...
echo wraith
Hmm, I could give it a try. Honestly, I don't usually run into issues but this one is quite the pain.
fierce bane
how far to the side is it? arm length? further?
echo wraith
I'd say about arm length, still moves with my hand
fierce bane
sounds like it's loading after you do...
if you stay in a t-pose where the hand should be until someone fully loads, does it link up with your hand?
echo wraith
I have not tried that, so I'm not sure
fierce bane
if that works it's likely just de-syncing during loading, a simple object with only an animator shouldn't run into the same issue and should be able to reset those under them to it right before the animation starts up...might fix it
echo wraith
I'll give it a shot
fierce bane
I've only had the desync issue once before with a test object...and if I stayed completely still (it was attached to armature only) it would be in the same place for others, if I moved or turned it wouldn't be
echo wraith
I guess the animation would just keep resetting the position to 0.
fierce bane
in my case it was due to physics objects I was playing with, so I can only guess for yours
assuming the child's location is 0,0,0 then yes
echo wraith
Yeah, I thought this would be so easy since it's simply a dancing man in a hand. Lol
fierce bane
You can either offset the animator and have the child at 0,0,0 and being reset to that (position/rotation), or have the child offset at something and reset it to that instead. It's a local offset either way would work.
and yeah...you'd think right? how complex is the dancing model? polycount/bonecount wise
echo wraith
Actually very basic. 1 mesh, 1 material, about 500 tris, about 40-50 bones I believe it was
fierce bane
yeah...no idea why it's so weird with it...
echo wraith
@fierce bane And I can reset the position in the original dance animation to save on animators, right?
fierce bane
if you can run the animator on the parent of the avatar, yes...although...you could potentially reset the body/armature position to 0 and then start the animation
If you want to see which part is the one separating from the others, make a few small cubes (maybe 0.1 scale) either with different colors, or just different height, etc (remove collider component). Place one at the top level, one on the armature and one on the body...(color is more reliable since they can't be confused)
Have someone tell you (or screenshot) how they move. If they stay together the whole thing moves, if only the body or armature move, then you can reset the body/armature position
echo wraith
I have a lot to try. I should get to it. Haha
fierce bane
hopefully you can figure out what it is
echo wraith
What I'm gonna try first is having the animation that toggles the dancing man to constantly reset his position and rotation since it's a 1 frame animation. I believe that could work.
fierce bane
You're going to reset the avatar position with the gesture right? should work...probably better than using the animator to do it honestly
echo wraith
Correct
karmic hazel
emote toggling or however its called seems complicated
bitter gyro
Doing it from scratch is. Luckily, some VRC pioneers made it pretty simple for everybody by streamlining and sharing it.
karmic hazel
@bitter gyro what you mean
bitter gyro
You can look up Emote Switcher on booth or I think there's an Inventory System tool for Unity.
They make it fairly easy.
I use Emote Switcher and do the other stuff manually. I think most use the Inventory System though.
fierce bane
inventory system: https://github.com/Xiexe/VRCInventorySystem/releases
karmic hazel
@fierce bane you sure this works?
fierce bane
I don't use it, so no. People have said it works however, and it's Xiexe whos known for the shader of the same name
odd latch
is this where I can beg for high quality animated flame spritesheets? Google is failing me
echo wraith
You check the Unity asset store? They have some free sprite sheets.
bitter gyro
Sprite sheets are actual gold bricks.
Even after finding tons, I still have to make some myself.
elder wing
Hey i have this dance emote but it only plays for a little why is that?
Ive seem others with animations that last the whole dance
odd latch
their animations are probably more than just emotes
emotes or gestures that trigger objects can have their animations last indefinitely
analog onyx
https://gyazo.com/7ce1ad954a2a02b2f5318f84dcabcf4b anyone know why this aint working?
opening just snaps the door open
lavish scaffold
@analog onyx Did you make an animation for the door opening as well? From closed to open state
lavish scaffold
I would check your opening animation to see if it really does goes from closed to open key frames. Or you could just clone the closing animation and make its speed to -1 (copy/paste to new state)
bitter gyro
@analog onyx Or maybe your curves aren't linear.
elder wing
@odd latch can you explain?
odd latch
gestures/toggle emotes that activate/enable objects that have animations not controlled by the emote itself
you have a main object that is your avatar, that is controlled by gestures and emotes
you can have sub objects, like a secondary body that can only dance, that you hide and unhide with gestures and emotes
elder wing
Ohhh alright i get you
odd latch
it's like, you can treat your avatar like a prop, assign a dance animation to that prop, and then hide/unhide them using gestures/toggle emotes
just remember that you can hide your body mesh, as well, if your plan is switching between dancing and not-dancing
glad escarp
Hi All. I'm trying to combine 2 animations in Umotion, which I've done. I slowed them down with the little clock thing in the bottom (not sure if that's correct) But I put the animation in game, and the first animation plays fine but the 2nd combined one has her spazzing out. It looks like she's missing half of the key frames to the animation - any idea? I'm very very new to Umotion
finite marlin
Im having an issue with a custom animation where the animation carrys on playing even after releasing the gesture, i have the animation on an animator on my armature and a gesture to toggle it on but it doesnt untoggle when i release my gesture anyone know?
keen crow
Hmm my tail wont wag in vrchat but in unity it works
Did I mistakenly put in hierarchy?
keen crow
Oh wait
green yoke
im making a gesture and i tested it out in game and even when i let go of the gesture, it keeps playing. how can i stop it from playing after i let go
it just loops constantly after i let go
sick loom
youre suppose to have only 0 and 1 frame
clear yew
Probably that it's because there are too many keyframes.
Gestures in VRC work best with keyframe 0 and 1 assigned.
You should make it so you have a gesture enable an animator or object with an animator that has the animation you want set as the default state.
Otherwise you'll get stuck with that gesture until it clears
green yoke
ok and if i have my 0 and 1 keyframe different will it basically freak out between the two or do they have to be the same
clear yew
Yep
green yoke
ok, thank you!
finite marlin
anyone know if its possible to make my avatar float in animation and still be able to move arms and hands?
clear yew
Ghost legs, custom idle animation and VR
finite marlin
what would be the best way to go about this?
fierce bane
ghost legs would just be humanoid upper/lower leg and foot with no weighting
so you have normal legs that aren't set in the humanoid config, and the un-weighted legs are set there instead
just be aware that any movement animations won't work with non humanoid bones, so the legs would have to be in the position you want them to be without animating
finite marlin
Is there any videos to help me with this?
fierce bane
go to blender, duplicate leg bones
there's no video that I know of on something so specific
fierce bane
set those new bones as the leg/foot bones in unity's humanoid mappings
select avatar> rig> configure, do that ⬆️
finite marlin
Okay, yep
With changing the leg bones won’t that make it like that for all the time? Like while walking around in game out of animation
fierce bane
yes
finite marlin
So why do I have to duplicate them? Can’t I use original
fierce bane
you can't animate them because the IK is always moving them
finite marlin
so should i rename the new leg bones something different then?
fierce bane
I mean, preferably so you know which is which
finite marlin
okay what do i do next?
clear yew
Heya, I hope this is the right place to inquire about this.
I'm playing around with avatars I find online. Mainly they are in a MMD format which I can put into blender and convert it so I can put it in unity. I think I got this part pretty much down.
However, I'm also interested in trying to add animated emotes for use in-game. I found one I like that is in a vmd format. I'm searching around on YouTube on how to use this for vrchat, but the most I can find isn't relating to vrchat. It looks like I can try to add the vmd to the mmd model in vrchat and it seems to work most of the time if I play it in blender, however I cannot figure out how to get it into unity and how to have it as an emote.
I don't know unity or blender very well, but if someone can point me in the right direction, that would be awesome!
odd latch
check the pings on this channel, I want to use vmd animations on unity, too
but I'm crazy lazy and not motivated for something like that right now
clear yew
iirc, you bake them into the fbx of the avatar and then extract the anim file from the prefab
bitter gyro
It's actually fairly easy to just have a dummy FBX with all the required bones and just pump motions into it and export it as a new.
Then just select the animation in the FBX and duplicate it out of the FBX.
Basically what Panda said, but more wordy. My bad.
clear yew
Ok, so I've made some progress following a tutorial. I'm trying to move some files to another unity project, however I have a materials folder that when I move it to the new project, it turns the materials pink and I dont know why
Either textures aren't assigning themselves properly or you have missing shaders
Ah. I tried moving the shaders, but while its not pink anymore, all the textures are invisible?
Change from transparent shading to opaque
Hmm doesn't seem to be changing anything
What do you mean by it looks invisible? Show a screenshot please. Have you tried other shaders like standard?
Oh maybe standard will work lol
clear yew
Got it mostly working! Some textures are messed up but thats probably the model.
clear yew
how do you do animation override for the index? I overode the finger gestures...but theyre not working.
clear yew
You switch into gesture mode to use gestures on index
bitter gyro
@clear yew You have to click the
Left analog stick.
oops. Hit enter too quickly. You'll have an Icon next to the mute icon letting you know whether gesture mode is enabled or not.
fiery lark
can some one explain to me i have an animation to basicly make a shader go rainbow but for what ever reason it doesnt loop
hasty nymph
@sick loom where would one dowload unity
torn pawn
charred quarry
I have a wird issue with my avatar
I basically made a sleigh being pulled and have 6 humans pulling it, using cyclic animations
form an animation pack.
Everything seemed t be working fine, but I noticed the animations "stretch" and keep stretching more and more after each cycle.
I thought that if I use a hand gesture to activate/deactivate the game object with the "deer",
that I could use it to re-stat the animation when the stretching becomes too obvious, but it just continues on from where it left when I de-activate/activate.
Anyone have any ideas?
proper hedge
Dunno what you mean by stretch but how is it being animated? Via gesture entirely, or are you using an animator component?
@charred quarry
polar swallow
anyone know how I would have the gunshot particle effect to only play when I have my gun out AND using the gesture for the gunshot effect?
So it'll be like this:
- Pull out gun with handgun gesture
- Make fist with other hand to play shooting gesture
- Play shooting gesture without gun out (should never happen, but does)
Any help would be appreciated.
proper hedge
@polar swallow https://youtu.be/yBwD15IiDDU
charred quarry
@proper hedge - I'm using a standard animator controller. Animations are from an animation pack.
when I sa stretch it means the model istels seem like it's being strethced
dreamy finch
anyone know how to make my avatar in a permanent floating animation?
clear yew
Fake legs and a custom idle animation
kindred trout
how should I prevent my avatar from blinking while doing other facial expressions?
clear yew
you can use my blink fix if you want
do you want me to DM you it or just post it here?
kindred trout
is that a unity package?
clear yew
yeah. it's a package. it includes instructions
it's small enough for me to post in discord tho
fervent bone
Sooo, did they change something about how animation controllers on the Body are handled? I use an animation controller on the body with my own blinking animation to handle blinking for me, since I don't like the way that VRC does it by default. But suddenly, even though it still works in play mode in blender, it suddenly doesn't work in VRC? :<
clear yew
Here an example of stretching:
Note Rudolph the red nosed space marine.. I'm not using any special shaders either
proper hedge
@clear yew try unchecking apply root motion if it is checked
fleet stirrup
what is the meaning of STRAFERT?
proper hedge
@clear yew apply root motion is in the animator component, not the clip
@fleet stirrup strafe right
heady talon
can anyone point me in the right direction for setting up multiple avatars and dances into 1 emote? googled around but couldn't find anything
clear yew
i guess id put this here but can someone give me a quick run-down on how to make a prone idle? ive attempted to make one in the past but it either came out A posing or in the floor (im more a visual person if that helps too)
bitter gyro
I want to assume most ways of achieving (solo) flight currently aren't very feasible/usable?
Just thought I'd check.
prisma trout
If you're not concerned about your avatar's performance you could just place a second model within your avatar's hierarchy and have it animate to show or disappear with some music @heady talon
magic depot
Guys,im need your help again
So,im mapped all bones on my avatar (and dont mapped UPPERCHEST),but when im trying to upload it,it says "You dont mapped neck,head,chest,hips,spine etc...".
Whats wrong?
guys...?
heady talon
could just be a sdk error
young hearth
does anyone know how to fix hand gesture overrides? for example my right hand has a gesture that pulls out a sword. My left hand gestures can pull out the Right hand's sword too. I want to remove it from the left hand's side, could that be possible?
proper hedge
nope, overrides are not split between left and right hand, for some reason
young hearth
oof i could've swear it was possible though, could just be my imagination thanks tho!
proper hedge
it used to be possible, using an exploit that let you use a custom humanoid animator, but the exploit had dangerous side effects and was removed
hollow salmon
I believe it is possible to have the same gesture on another hand do something else, but I have no info on how to do that.
proper hedge
devs never thought it was worth it to split gestures
it's possible to animate on a left/right hand specific interaction, but not on gesture input
eg if i move my right hand to my left hip, animate something
that is possible
young hearth
i see
bitter gyro
@hollow salmon @proper hedge @young hearth Sorry for mass ping but you cooould just take advantage of right hand priority for something like that.
young hearth
oh? so its possible?
bitter gyro
I'd say so. You'd just have to set your gestures up properly.
Like, make every gesture but one cancel the animation that pulls out the sword maybe.
hollow salmon
Well yes, you could have another gesture cancel it.
bitter gyro
It depends on how you want to set it up.
hollow salmon
But that's just kind of a waste of a slot to be honest with you.
bitter gyro
I use right hand priority for everything.
No, it's not.
You make every other gesture cancel it. It's a way to save gestures by locking things so you don't do them accidentally.
So it depends on if you want to only pull the left one out when the right one's out, or if you want to pull it out separately.
Either way, you could do it, with a little magicking.
young hearth
hey wait a minute, wasn't there a dual gesture combo thing in vrc?
bitter gyro
Combo gestures are a thing, yeah.
young hearth
yeahhh
bitter gyro
Taking advantage of all these small tricks really opens up the possibilities.
But combo gestures are something else. Still a little relevant.
young hearth
i'll look into that more i think thats kind of what i wanted to look for
bitter gyro
The right hand priority trick is just that if you have the left hand saying don't do something and the right hand saying to do it anyway and you do both gestures at the same time, the right hand takes priority so it'll do what the right hand says over what the left hand says.
young hearth
right~
bitter gyro
Literally.
lol
Oh, psh. I misunderstood the question. Yeah. Combo gestures are the way to go. Jeez. 😩
Thought you meant dual weilding and only pulling out the left one with the left hand.
young hearth
😅
bitter gyro
Lin knew that too, but probably thought too big again. 😏
craggy egret
Absolute newbie here. Installed unity a few days ago and I've spent it just watching tutorials on how to do stuff. I got the gist on how to MAKE the animations but what if I got a vrchat-ready avatar already and I want to tweak it? I have all these custom animations the avatar came with that I have no idea how to fiddle around with. I'd like to know to which gestures are they assigned to and stuff to see what I would want to keep and what not.
fierce bane
Find where your custom override is and check that for what is assigned as an active animation
craggy egret
Thanks! Unfortunately I don't need this anymore but now at least I know how to work with animations that were already made beforehand.
fierce bane
the custom override will only tell you what is currently used for the avatar and in what slots.
To edit them you can duplicate the avatar and drag/drop the animation onto that duplicate
craggy egret
Ah yeah, a few videos I saw warned me to NEVER EVER do any animation work on the original model because it gets borked.
But to dupe it, do the work and then delete the dupe.
candid pulsar
Hello
covert patio
@candid pulsar https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=rJlYsYrfi8Q&t=697s Here’s a pretty good tutorial on makin stuff spawn with gestures and such! If that’s what you were askin about
candid pulsar
Welp crap cause I tried I just don’t know which animation is the closing hand gesture
@covert patio do you know which animation is the last gesture
stuck spade
Anyone knows how to make a blink animation in Unity? I tried putting the animation on the Avatar (Animation Player) and an Animator on the Body with the Blink Controller but it doesn't play at all
fierce bane
did you make the blink controller yourself?
also are you trying to avoid using VRCs built in blink?
fierce bane
VRC has a blinking and eye tracking setup already as long as your model meets certain requirements
if you want to be able to disable the blinking for other face animations and stuff though, you're on the right path
fierce bane
that's fine, can you show the controller setup you have?
and does your blink animation go from 0 to 100 for the blink?
candid pulsar
Can anyone explain
stuck spade
the blink animation works fine. All i did was replacing the idle with the blink on a extra controller and put it on the body
stuck spade
you should do animations on a copy of the avatar
candid pulsar
I did
stuck spade
If you have nothing on the idle you can upload it
covert patio
Its ok then if the copy is stuck in bike pose
stuck spade
the pose won't be affected in Unity
candid pulsar
Nope both are some how
fierce bane
see second pin in this channel to fix that pose
that should only happen if you animate on the avatar though
candid pulsar
I did
fierce bane
not sure what your other issue is, can only see a crappy phone recording of a playing animation as far as I can see
candid pulsar
Yeah but I can’t get it to go to a gesture
stuck spade
if you want to fix the pose you can put a t-pose on the idle, hit record, move the avatar back and forward, stop recording and remove the t-pose idle
fierce bane
@stuck spade you need a blank controller, not the idle one. The only thing you want in that controller is the entry -> blink animation
candid pulsar
Wait I got a save one sec
stuck spade
i tried that aswell on the body but didn't work
candid pulsar
Yup maybe restart
stuck spade
are you able to create the controller for me and share it? So i can see how it's made and replace my anim
fierce bane
make sure the animation is made FROM the animator there, not from the avatar's level
candid pulsar
What?
fierce bane
not you
stuck spade
what's Avatar level tho
fierce bane
the part with the descriptor usually
select your animation, select the blink component of it, and hit F2, then copy/paste that in here
It'll show the path it's looking for for the blink shape key...rules out any issues with the animation
stuck spade
so you want me to put the animation script on the avatar, create a new game controller, add the blink in the Animator tab, connect it and place the done anim on the free slot?
fierce bane
animator should be on the body mesh, not the avatar level at all
candid pulsar
One thing with weapons how does that work
stuck spade
Animator or just the animation script? 🤔
stuck spade
alright imma try that later
fierce bane
it's an older function that is depreciated (no longer works)
candid pulsar
I know the animator
fierce bane
it's basically the same, just a different way to do it
candid pulsar
So can I have help with weapons
fierce bane
@stuck spade Animator, simple setup.
Make animator on body, then either create a new controller and drop it in, or create a new animation. If you already have an animation, after you make the animator, drag/drop animation onto "body" and it'll make a controller for you with only that animation
@candid pulsar a weapon is the same as any object in unity. Disable it by default, have the gesture Enable the weapon object. As long as you hold that gesture, it'll hold the weapon
stuck spade
will do when i get home after 8-9 hours thanks
fierce bane
good luck
fierce bane
shift F are just the keyboard keys for gestures
candid pulsar
Exactly can it be translated
fierce bane
I don't know what you mean by translating
candid pulsar
As in use
candid pulsar
How?
fierce bane
candid pulsar
Let me guess needs full skeleton
fierce bane
yes, humanoid skeletons are required for any gestures, emotes, or tracking of any kind
candid pulsar
I’m meaning full fingers as well
fierce bane
or any non-idle animations
no, it does require 3 fingers however
thumb, index, and middle fingers...only the first bone should be required though
stuck spade
you can also do hand animations on non humanoid
candid pulsar
Ok then why doesn’t it work
Ps I need assistance with fixing bike pose prose something
stuck spade
idk but i've already made an Avatar that was just an empty gameobject with animations to enable songs with the hand gestures
fierce bane
@candid pulsar I already told you, check second pinned message in this channel for bike pose fix
candid pulsar
Where’s the pinned message!!
covert patio
If you’re on mobile, you hit the lil people lookin icons in the top right
Then hit pins
candid pulsar
Welp I’m screwed
Looks like I’m restarting
Since I can’t get the damn thing to work
Ok so this isn’t working
@here
It doesn’t want to work
candid pulsar
Hopefully this works
odd latch
so I have particle systems behind my view and I need to see them in-game for testing, where can I find a mirror/camera that shows particle systems?
fervent bone
@fierce bane O:! so, about your message about https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/390924344475254792/660014552666210354/unknown.png?width=848&height=322 this was been working for me until a few days ago. suddenly all the avatars i had working previously with blinking animators components on the body are just suddenly broken O:!! even the ones that were already uploaded, now no longer blink. Did something change? D:
fierce bane
not that I know of?
not unless the non-specific "Safety and Security changes" on the 20th messed them up.
ask other people if they're blinking instead of using mirrors, or try a world you are certain they worked in...best I can offer sorry
fervent bone
thanks O:! it's so strange :<! my tailwag animator still works, but that's on the hip bone
fierce bane
@odd latch depending on what it is exactly, you can use "holoport" movement (settings menu) to move your character away from you to usually see it.
If it's attached to the head, or using a rigid/fixed on the head it may not work. Other than that it usually does though.
fervent bone
shouldn't i just be able to see it in mirrors? O:
fierce bane
you should be able to but it's just a guess
candid pulsar
Something is wrong with my swords not appearing in my hands
Can anyone help
Hello?
😦
🥺
😢
😭
odd latch
have you looked at prop tutorials on youtube?
clear yew
Anyone can tell me where I can find good, long dancing animations?
Everything I find seems to be just 3 second loops
I see those anime dancing girls avatars and long dance animations
And since we're at it - anyone know how to make sound NOT suck? It's so quiet and so short-ranged, and nothing I tried works so far.
candid pulsar
Could anyone actually add an animation to my avatar with a weapon
odd latch
I learned to animate weapon props from various youtube tutorials, what are you having trouble with?
candid pulsar
I’m trying to make it so I can use the sword in my hand and make the holstered one disappear
odd latch
ok, you'll have two weapons on your avatar, one invisible by default on your hand, and one visible by default that is holstered
the gesture animation makes the weapon on your hand visible and the one holstered invisible
candid pulsar
Yup got that but the gesture isn’t responding
odd latch
is the animation only two frames? nodes on frame 0 and frame 1
odd latch
keyboard or controllers?
candid pulsar
Keys
odd latch
which F key/s?