animation

[grizzled cobalt]

the hat levitates above it

[craggy sage]

like i move part of the ear to make it twitch, but it doesnt record it

[scarlet pumice]

@normal skiff , people use the 'vr animations' not as animations

[solid trail]

anyone able to teach me how to do the drawing with finger animation override?

[scarlet pumice]

@normal skiff so they have an animation of 'no gun' then an animation of 'a gun', then they bind it to a VR emote

[grizzled cobalt]

waits for orders

[scarlet pumice]

then when u press the emote on the controller, the gun appears

[normal skiff]

I know, but I also set the fingers to actually be in the right position for holding a gun

otherwise it just looks stupid

[craggy sage]

is there a way to animate in unity?

[scarlet pumice]

@grizzled cobalt think about it mate, if it worked on one avatar and no another, its most likely not the animations fault

[grizzled cobalt]

I only tried it on one yet

And there it didnt work

[scarlet pumice]

?

[craggy sage]

or is that not a thing

[scarlet pumice]

are u putting the nimation into the override slot then assigning the controller to the vravatar ?

[grizzled cobalt]

pretty much all the animation is done in unity @craggy sage

[normal skiff]

basics of animating in unity is covered by many many videos...

[craggy sage]

so how do then?

[grizzled cobalt]

yes @scarlet pumice

But wait

Does the Controller go into the Animator

Or VRC Descriptor (Custom Standing Anim)

[normal skiff]

you don't need the controller in the animator for the avatar

[craggy sage]

when i rotate bones, thet dont record

[scarlet pumice]

custom standing anim

[grizzled cobalt]

yeah

when I did that on the other avatar for some reason the animations didnt trigger

and none of the gestures on his hands were showing

when I removed it again it did

but whatever

[craggy sage]

is there something special i have to do?

[grizzled cobalt]

ignore that other avatar now

so when he triggers this animation with RockNRoll now

[scarlet pumice]

u cant really just grab an animation from one avatar and use it on another

[grizzled cobalt]

how do I make the hand stay open

[normal skiff]

they should just record... if it's in record mode, anyway

[scarlet pumice]

its talking to bones, if the bones are diff names, problems

[grizzled cobalt]

@scarlet pumice nah forget about that ;

[craggy sage]

it is, but it wont

[normal skiff]

if it doesn't then maybe the thing being moved isn't inside the thing with the animator on it

[grizzled cobalt]

these avatars have nothing to do with each other now

[craggy sage]

do i have to specify the part im moving?

[scarlet pumice]

@normal skiff his issue is not that mate, just adding the scuffed version, is breaking things

[normal skiff]

which "his"

[scarlet pumice]

well an animation is for a 'set' of bones with '

[normal skiff]

this is why chat is problematic

[scarlet pumice]

names', u cant just throw it onto a diff model and expect it to work

[normal skiff]

also what is "scuffed" in this situation

[scarlet pumice]

has to have the exact same bones + names

[craggy sage]

like which part of "Add Property" do i use?

[scarlet pumice]

@normal skiff mate, he is trying to take an animation from one model, and use it on another, without changing it, that is the issue

[normal skiff]

Maxwell is?

[craggy sage]

me? no

[scarlet pumice]

lol the last guy

[normal skiff]

because that's who the message you were replying to is about

so this is why it's confusin

[craggy sage]

when i rotate an ear it doesnt record that i rotated it

[grizzled cobalt]

So to get this right.

https://i.imgur.com/AZnwHDe.png

[normal skiff]

so my comment about Maxwell's situation was, if it isn't recording, then either it isn't in record mode, or the thing being moved is on the original model and not on the duplicate created for animation

[grizzled cobalt]

I take the TakeCrown Anim and put it into the RockNRoll Slot on the AvatarOverride (Zeke)

[craggy sage]

it is on recording tho

[grizzled cobalt]

@scarlet pumice

[normal skiff]

so it would be the second thing I mentioned in the same sentence then

or you've found some other weird edge case which could be avatar-specific, I dunno

but if you really want to be sure, Add Property does work too, it's just more work

[grizzled cobalt]

So.. I still dunno if im done

[craggy sage]

ok, see it knows i recorded it: http://puu.sh/z8j2l/46e0473ed3.jpg

[normal skiff]

oh, so it did record it now

[craggy sage]

but as soon as i scroll the bar: http://puu.sh/z8j38/b0b62d56d9.jpg

it acts like it never happen

[normal skiff]

that seems to be working..?

[craggy sage]

http://puu.sh/z8j53/f676b34efa.jpg

[normal skiff]

it did change the values

[craggy sage]

nope

thats the exact same frame that it was on when i recorded it

[normal skiff]

huh.

this is a new phenomenon to me

[craggy sage]

could it be locked in a certian pose?

[grizzled cobalt]

Had that aswell

you gotta use the animator for it

[craggy sage]

animator?

[normal skiff]

the ears won't be in the animator though will th.......actually the word animator is overused in unity so I dunno which one applies here lol

[grizzled cobalt]

So

please; I really wanna finish this

x.x

why did Draken disappear

grr

[craggy sage]

might just do a Blend Shape Key

[mystic umbra]

see I was wondering about this

[normal skiff]

mm most of mine for things like ears are using blend shapes too...

[mystic umbra]

Can you make a blender shape key to move the bones ?

[normal skiff]

because the modeler was nice enough to put them in for me

[mystic umbra]

I havent done it but I thought it could be possible

[craggy sage]

well shape keys keep track of the mesh, so i figure since the bones move the mesh, it should work

[mystic umbra]

but that would be really messy no

?

[craggy sage]

i wouldnt think so

[mystic umbra]

Ima try the bone movement instead and see what happens

[craggy sage]

if anything it would allow for more finer control

[mystic umbra]

true

[craggy sage]

blend keys dont track anything but the mesh

mostly to keep out any conflicts

shrugs

[mystic umbra]

I know some really good animator prefer doing animations on blender than unity

[craggy sage]

tbh this avatar has been thru the ringer, and imma make sure it works

[mystic umbra]

because unity... Is a bit of a pain in the ass

[craggy sage]

yeah, ive heard that too >.<

[mystic umbra]

Ive made some emotion animations with shape keys with ease

then apply that shape key on a custom animation overide

[dull parcel]

Anyone know how to just add/remove a - infront of the x value

using animation

[severe palm]

@scarlet pumice i solved the avatar stuck in the ground issue

[dull parcel]

I need to keep the value across multiple things

with different x values

[severe palm]

i just used an example idle animation from the sdk and added viseme animations to it

[scarlet pumice]

hmmm

nice

pretty smart idea

ta

[mystic umbra]

did you not duplicate the avatar before creating animations?

if so thats a clever fix

[scarlet pumice]

that doesnt fix it

that only works for 'vr hand animations'

[grizzled cobalt]

I have another small problem now

so the animation works ingame with gesture

but this:

https://i.imgur.com/sqCrFbx.png

Its nothing with dynamic bones; this only happens when it uses the new Custom Avatar Override

[candid light]

Is there a way to say, play an animation for taking out a rifle, and then keep the rifle out, and have another animation when you put it away, all with one gesture?

[grizzled cobalt]

not with one

[candid light]

so it would play animation clip1 on activation, 2 on idle, 3 on deactivation

[normal skiff]

I was looking at the animation controller and it seems like it might be possible, but not easy

[grizzled cobalt]

@normal skiff any idea on ym thing

[normal skiff]

nope :/

[candid light]

so is that a copy of your model? My model goes into weird poses when I animate anything involving its body

I think that happens for everyone

[grizzled cobalt]

no thats the actual model but only after applying the AnimationOverride

Basically as soon as the AvatarControllerTemplate ingame starts, the character g oes into that position

dunno why

[somber yacht]

Hey guys, so how does sound in animation overrides work? If I were to shoot a gun, would I have to set two different animation overrides: 1 for the gun when idle and 1 for when the gun is shooting/making sounds?

[normal skiff]

two animations, one animation override controller

[modern ether]

if i have an animation that hides an object when i gesture, does it automatically unhide when i stop gesturing or do i need to have another animation for that?

[candid light]

it automatically unhides afaik

[normal skiff]

it does yeah

same as the reverse

[candid light]

Basically whatever the state your avatar was in before it reverts to i believe, as far as which objects are enabled or disabled

[modern ether]

great thank you both

[normal skiff]

I wonder if my gun wobble is actually some dumb issue with the animation that I couldn't see when I was checking it...

...ah actually it happens for both animations so it seems unlikely

... nah both frames are the same, so it's still a mystery

I want to immediately blame Fixed Joint though, it's the only new thing in the mix

[candid light]

ah yeah that's the problem it's because you have to not freeze xyz

so that you can actually move the gun

and I think that gives it room to wobble

[normal skiff]

so... there's two rigid bodies

[candid light]

yeah you probably freeze your wrist right and then don't freeze the gun

[normal skiff]

that's basically how it is

I'll gather some screenshots

[candid light]

Right, my stuff attached by rigidbodies like that wobbles too

[normal skiff]

ah, so it's normal. 😦

[candid light]

no i think there's probably a fix

[normal skiff]

so I guess one workaround is keeping the banana itself on the wrist directly

[candid light]

it definitely has to do with the fixed joint and rigidbody, there is some give between them

[normal skiff]

there is. apparently Fixed Joint still operates using the physics system

as do all joints

so the common workaround I see is a custom script which locks it to the right position and then turns off the constraints

which is a hack, but an elegant one

someone said to try Configurable Joint as it might be possible to allow for less give

https://answers.unity.com/questions/230995/fixed-joint-not-really-fixed.html the post about it which I found

[candid light]

geeze there are a lot of properties on this thing

[normal skiff]

yeah that's why I haven't figured it out yet lol

[candid light]

i guess it is true to its name

[normal skiff]

apparently it has a superset of all other joints' functionality

so you can configure it to act like any of the others, and then more

"Turning the limits to 0 reduces the wiggling significantly" is the bit which made me think it might work, but when I set what I thought were the limits he was talking about, it made no difference

I guess another benefit of doing it by splitting the gun from its effects is that the bullets would continue to render when the gun isn't out

at a cost of however many polygons the particle system costs

I think I'm gonna login here and necro this thread to ask about the limits, because when I make a new Configurable Joint, all of them are already 0

either that or I make a whole new post just to document my issue

[trim vine]

So I have an issue with animations. My model rig is set to generic under animations for the animations I am trying to do, but in game the animations keep on looping for a good 2-3 minutes. I have Loop Time off as well. (This is in Unity btw.)

[clear yew]

I got the Full Headspin animation after so long holy shit

im happy

[normal skiff]

'a "fixed joint" is actually simulated as an extremely rigid and stiff spring'

lots of lewd words in there but it gives the gist of what's going on

[clear yew]

insert Lenny

jk

[normal skiff]

no /lenny command? 😦

[clear yew]

nope

sadly ;w;

[normal skiff]

such disappoint

[clear yew]

much sad

im on a model creating rampage atm xD

[trim vine]

anyone know why my animations keep looping? (Loop time off)

[clear yew]

in vrchat or unity?

[trim vine]

vrchat but unity is what i used to create them

they are only like 5 seconds long but they keep looping for what ever reason

and it takes like 3 mins just for it to stop

[clear yew]

jesus

I have no idea how to fix that sorry

But Try limiting your Frames in The animation

just a suggestion

[trim vine]

alright, i am at 60 rn so should I try 30?

[clear yew]

Yes 30

Most of my animations are 30 and they last the exact time

30 frames to be specific

[trim vine]

ah

alright ill let you know if it works

[clear yew]

Ok

I won't be on for much longer

cuz it's 10:25 am And I need to urgently sleep lmfao

Im in india btw

So 10:26 pm in toronto and 10:26 am in india

[trim vine]

00f

[clear yew]

I've been in toronto before so that's how I know

I played 1 pm to this xD

I need my full 12 hour sleep

[trim vine]

xD

k logging in rn

[clear yew]

I JUST REALIZED

I CHUGGED DOWN 3 ENERGY DRINKS NVM

IM NOT SLEEPING AT ALL LMFAO

[trim vine]

ah rip it didn't work D:

[clear yew]

Crap

Sorry Man

[trim vine]

oh well

thanks though for trying

😃

[clear yew]

Np Bro

[normal skiff]

what happens if you set spring to Infinity

is that infinitely droopy, or infinitely rigid

[clear yew]

Or Both?

lol

I got a question

anyone here heard of Lil pee and marshmello's "Spotlight"

It's A Very Good Song

[normal skiff]

what if we ask a staff person nicely for a script to attach two game objects together reliably lol

asking for them to fix the original issue clearly didn't work though [/snark]

[clear yew]

Insant Denied Maybe?

Oh well Idk XD

[normal skiff]

could seriously be worth considering though

[grand loom]

Sorry if this is an over asked question, but how long can an emote animation be? How many seconds/frames.

[normal skiff]

if I weren't in such a shit time zone

either 8 or 10 depending on who you ask

please time it and confirm for us 😄

[grand loom]

lol

[normal skiff]

there is a game dev stackexchange, maybe all the problems we find we should create as questions over there and put answers up as community wiki

at the moment I'm dumping the basic summaries into a google doc because I'm not aware of any better option

and vrchat themselves have too many new issues coming in to have time to set up a better place to ask questions

I'm really surprised though that there are no questions on the gamedev stackexchange even mentioning VRChat as a side-note

[trim vine]

yeah same lol

[normal skiff]

there's a gamedev stackexchange post about fixed joints where they set up the fixed joint on the hand side, with connected body set to their prop

so basically the exact reverse of my setup

[trim vine]

do you think they would be able to fix an infinite animation loop?

[normal skiff]

?

[trim vine]

im trying to fix my animation from looping in vrchat

[normal skiff]

ah

[trim vine]

it loops only on emotes though

[normal skiff]

and of course Loop Time was unchecked

[trim vine]

yeah

[normal skiff]

my initial reaction was maybe the controller is doing something unexpected, but when I went looking for loop settings in there, there aren't any

[grizzled cobalt]

@normal skiff

I have this little problem that the crown is in front of the hand rather than floating above

how do I reposition it during the animation

If I can

[normal skiff]

hit record and move it, or what I have done for my props is, I move it into the right place and then manually copy those values back to the real item's position and make it the default settings

[trim vine]

there are these really cool vids of some guy that made an osrs player model with some sick animations which I am trying to re create

[grizzled cobalt]

this is what it looks like btw https://i.imgur.com/Rqru15C.png

alright let me try that

[normal skiff]

is there a consensus that the best place to anchor props is always the wrist... because I was having a conversation last night that sounded like maybe I was being recommended to avoid it, but the guy's mic was terrible so I couldn't really hear clearly, and I had to operate in a foreign language at the time

[grizzled cobalt]

yeah it is anchored to the wirst

so my duplicate is now in the fucked up sitting floor position as you know

how do I exactly position the crown to this

[normal skiff]

you can just ignore the rest of the pose and try to position it relative to the hand

[grizzled cobalt]

because for that I already had it moved

https://i.imgur.com/37nYmnt.png

I had that like this

but this was the result

https://i.imgur.com/Rqru15C.png

[normal skiff]

ah okay, hmm

[thorny fox]

hii

anyone getting the following problem: "animations I make dont lag me at all but for others they complain about lag"

or complain about bad fps*

[normal skiff]

with my gun I did it all while in record mode because I had to move both the gun and the fingers quite a bit, but once I had the position and rotation for the gun, I copied it out to a text doc and then back onto the actual gun in the real hierarchy, and then deleted the rules for it in the animation

[trim vine]

im pretty sure there is a fix for that boop hold on a sec

[normal skiff]

so my animation doesn't change the prop positions at all, just the hand and the visibility

[thorny fox]

oh boy! that would be super useful

my animations dont even use that much particles nor is it high in polys (albiet it is scaled in size)

[trim vine]

http://vrchat.wikia.com/wiki/Common_issues_and_solutions

[thorny fox]

"My avatar causes everyone in VR Chat to have severely reduced frame rate" is this what you are referring to?

[trim vine]

yeah

[thorny fox]

my model is under 10k and my animations use 1k meshs

[normal skiff]

it probably isn't the poly count since that's enforced by the sdk now

[thorny fox]

1k mesh*

[trim vine]

yeah idk then

i wish there were more topics on fixes though

[primal gull]

how do i stop an animation from looping

[trim vine]

dude i have the same issue lol

do you have loop time disabled as well?

[primal gull]

no idea

[trim vine]

click on your animation in unity and under the inspector, make sure loop animation is unchecked

[grizzled cobalt]

@normal skiff

Is it possible to have an idle animation on 2 things?

Each crown their own? Because that way I can set both's position to be different

[normal skiff]

incidentally I just checked my youtube notifications and Morgus is also saying that the prop itself (and everything other than the world particles) should be kept in the normal part of the hierarchy

so I mean, that is going to end up being the "solution" at this rate

I will just go back to the guy who posted the video before his one, who didn't do that, and ask him what he thinks lol

[clear yew]

Can someone please help, my model which has snail marker isn't making a trail in game when I do the hand gesture to activate it, nothing happens. Here's what it looks lik in the animation folder https://imgur.com/a/LLAdP
and here's what the whole model looks like https://imgur.com/a/Kur0Q

[vast dove]

does anyone know good dynamic bone values for earrings?

when i try them out they just stretch back behind the head

[spice urchin]

just mess around with it in play mode and mixamo animations

the hecc

[vast dove]

they look fine in unity

[clear yew]

What he said

[grizzled cobalt]

@normal skiff could it be that the idle animation keeps it locked in the place

[vast dove]

they look completely normal in unity then ingame they just stretch

[spice urchin]

are they even parented to the head

[vast dove]

yeah

[spice urchin]

are they mapped to something

[clear yew]

Can anyone help me with my problem please?

[drifting coral]

tbh i cant use snail marker too lol

[vast dove]

how do i double check?

https://gyazo.com/a2e0c926532a83ead753c33eb8946bb3 the bone starts in the middle of the body and goes up to the earrings like this

[drifting coral]

just reduce inertia (increase it to 1) ?

or at least almost 1

[normal skiff]

@grizzled cobalt you can definitely have an Animator on both the head copy of the hat and the hand copy of the hat. But I dunno about the positioning thing. The animations VRChat itself is doing shouldn't know about the hat at all, and the idle animation itself I don't think even messes with the fingers

[spice urchin]

i cant see it

[vast dove]

cant see the bone?

[spice urchin]

also why does ur body have jiggle bones

lol

[vast dove]

it doesnt have any lol

just hair bones

[normal skiff]

I have snail marker working after following one specific youtube video by snail himself

mine erases the line when I put the pen away though, while some other people's don't seem to

I'm still not sure which behaviour is better though, the ability to hide the line temporarily has its uses

[drifting coral]

i only watch one of its video, in case he uploaded more than 1 videos

[normal skiff]

it's probably that one

other people did videos on it too but I never got it working from the others

[drifting coral]

i might try it again soon™

i just need to fix this first
https://i.imgur.com/v4S2ezw.gifv

[clear yew]

I don't know what that is

but that animation

[vast dove]

the inertia didnt fix it

[clear yew]

is amaing

[drifting coral]

there is no toggle to change states permanently right ?

http://78.media.tumblr.com/7374b9c66fef356d07b4938419fbc61d/tumblr_mmptjfVkNn1rhvaxbo1_400.gif

[clear yew]

can you show me how you made it please? @drifting coral

[drifting coral]

also its switch axe

[normal skiff]

I wish we had state changes

[drifting coral]

it uses 3 different animation

1 for showing the model

1 for the actual animation from axe to sword , the other is from sword to axe

[normal skiff]

can you chain one onto the other or did you end up using two gestures?

[vast dove]

https://gyazo.com/10189659a74375f0c3137d4808d9d6dc here's how it looks

anything obvious?

[normal skiff]

the animation controller docs made it seem like there might be a way to have a state change immediately after another state change, but I do not know de way

[drifting coral]

basically right hand rock gesture for showing it
Left hand for the changing animation
1: gun gesture to change to sword
2: point gesture to change back to axe

[spice urchin]

definitely not weight painted

or parented to head

one of the two

[vast dove]

is it an easy fix?

[spice urchin]

u have to weight paint it in blender

then u have to replace the prefab and it should update

[drifting coral]

can i see the elasticity and the damping?
or just the whole option you use ?
@vast dove

[vast dove]

havent done that step before

yea

[spice urchin]

its not a dynamic bone issue

[drifting coral]

0 elasticity, and high damping could do that
from what i try

[spice urchin]

if you rotate the head and look at earring

if it doesnt move it needs weight painting fix

[drifting coral]

if it isnt dynamic bone issue, then its weight painting issue

[spice urchin]

idk y u would put those settings unless on purpose

[vast dove]

@drifting coral https://gyazo.com/75502b84be8b1d846103baff10f5b284

[drifting coral]

well for sciences

[vast dove]

been messing around with it

[spice urchin]

make elasticity much larger

[drifting coral]

try higher elasticity

[spice urchin]

damping smaller

use my default tail settings

https://i.gyazo.com/204b9845c787912e36462e1a6229cdd8.png

ignore radius

[vast dove]

okay

[spice urchin]

if u have any animations imported u can see it react to character movement

before uploading

[vast dove]

it looked normal in unity so im not sure if its something i can see in there

[spice urchin]

it is

but u dont have any physics or character movement

and rotating the character wont come close

you need to import an animation and play it on the character in runtime

to be able to see it react

[vast dove]

ah

[spice urchin]

that way the character is in motion

[drifting coral]

https://twitter.com/Aceship123/status/953326473028358144

Aceship (@Aceship123)

trying to make semi controlable cloud with dynamic bones in vrchat
(lags while recording) https://t.co/yVIS8RQFv4

▶ Play video

Twitter

i tried "remote controlling" with dynamic bones stuff

[spice urchin]

why it act so weird xd

also u should use 0 stiffness that way it moves on its own not based on body

1 stiffness make its movement entirely based on previous bone

[vast dove]

gonna test those settings

[normal skiff]

if only we could have things which react based on the position of bits of a character mesh http://blog.leapmotion.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/12/dimple-mesh2.gif

[spice urchin]

this is for the cloud not earrings

possible with shaders or scripts

[drifting coral]

tbh i used stiffness to get the cloud face where i want

[normal skiff]

this effect uses a shader but it has to know the position of the finger somehow to do it

[latent swallow]

Does anyone know what I can do to make it look as though I'm grabbing a weapon from my avatar instead of It randomly appearing -- For example: I have a sword on my hip and I use the animation in-game, I want the sword to appear in my hand and the sword to disappear from my hip.

I have the animation done but I am not completely sure what I should do to make the sword on my hip disappear once the animation is active.

[spice urchin]

scripts probably

[drifting coral]

move the gameobject ?

[spice urchin]

and bang you have to play an animation

[drifting coral]

on animation ?

[normal skiff]

yeah, definitely scripts

[spice urchin]

u can just hide arm model show body model

and vice versa

[normal skiff]

they ray trace the fingers to find the insertion and then use that data with the shader

[drifting coral]

or place 2 model , just toggle both

[spice urchin]

which is what i said

xd

[normal skiff]

also this gif is pretty lewd for a hand being put into a sphere

[vast dove]

so i tried the settings and its still stretching, so I need to weight paint?

[spice urchin]

rotate the head and see if earrings move

[drifting coral]

check the weight paint it is

😂

[vast dove]

okay

[drifting coral]

im still searching a way to use gesture as Weilding equip instead of appear/disappearing it

[latent swallow]

[spice urchin]

u can make it on and off

[drifting coral]

so i could wield different object based on what i grab on my avatar

[latent swallow]

I-- am more confused than before

rip

[drifting coral]

if only i found the way

[spice urchin]

im pretty sure u can

make it so that gesture is on and no gesture is off

[vast dove]

yea they move in there

[spice urchin]

i think all u do is put active off at end of the animation

[drifting coral]

try removing the dynamic bones if it still stretch

you might add 2 dynamic bones on the earings

[spice urchin]

bc people have made stuff where they use handgun gesture to hold out gun

[vast dove]

do it separately on each of the earring bones instead of the root?

[spice urchin]

yes

[latent swallow]

http://prntscr.com/i4r15e
http://prntscr.com/i4r17p
I'm trying this but I'm not sure it's going to work.

[spice urchin]

weighting modifies how much that part of mesh follows bone

[drifting coral]

it should works

should

just try it lol

[spice urchin]

ya it should hide when let go

[drifting coral]

it just not gonna appear on mirror

[spice urchin]

if u have vr u can see it on ur hand so

doesnt matter all that much

[normal skiff]

depends on how advanced the stuff is

this one guy's 2B had so many dynamically enablable bits that you couldn't even see her skin in the mirror

[latent swallow]

I tried it -- Headphones is the object on my head and Kitty is what appears once I use the gesture. It didn't appear in the mirror as you said and it did appear in my hand but the headphones didn't disappear/hide from my head.

When I looked in the mirror, It was still on my potato head

[onyx cape]

dose any one know of a tutorial to put audio over an animations

or knows what i should do

[spice urchin]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yfVmfGOOkOw

uses blend shapes but same idea

turning on and off

[clear yew]

^^ Best tutoriel out there **

oh god my spelling

[drifting coral]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m4OCpPjzJ-0

[normal skiff]

does it cover audio though

[drifting coral]

custom sound

[normal skiff]

I mean the previous link, you just happened to paste at exactly the same time I hit enter

[drifting coral]

lol

@onyx cape

[onyx cape]

so that will tell me how to add it to an animation that i did not make?

[spice urchin]

???

i dont think u can make like full on equip and stuff animations that arent super fast

[drifting coral]

try follow it

[spice urchin]

bc vrchat says animations 1 frame

[normal skiff]

the process isn't that different, you just skip the bits where you have to make the animation

[spice urchin]

just play the animation by reaching for your sword

in vr

[normal skiff]

the most important thing to remember about audio sources though is

always set it to 3d

[spice urchin]

use .2-.5 volume

and range like 0-15

[normal skiff]

oh yeah that too lol

[spice urchin]

with linear rolloff for best results

[normal skiff]

but mainly, always set it to 3d

[latent swallow]

I can pretend to reach for my sword and then use the gesture

[normal skiff]

because if you set it to 2d, everyone in the world will hear it

[latent swallow]

I just want the sword to disappear

once I do said gesture

[spice urchin]

then again

you just do that tutorial

[drifting coral]

just disable the gameobject on the main avatar

on the hand

[spice urchin]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GkVJSd3Js8o

see

[vast dove]

hmm separate bones didnt work

[drifting coral]

have you tried disabling dynamic bones for the earings ?

[vast dove]

ill do that now

[spice urchin]

near the end they make the gun vanish

so look at that point

[drifting coral]

just to check if it normal or still stretched

[normal skiff]

every time I see a video recommended it automatically goes into my google doc of resources for development

so they'd better all be good lol

(someone immediately posts a howtobasic episode) goddamnit

[drifting coral]

i kinda want those google docs link

😂

[normal skiff]

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1-QOrua8SGLapcZINWEEi3OSHiXlo_1QfbaEmkI7w0xU/edit

[drifting coral]

nice, thanks, gtg check

[normal skiff]

it's starting to get a bit untidy though

every time I have a problem and then sort it out I try to record that but there are just things I could never figure out and the tutorials are all over the place

[latent swallow]

I have two seperate swords -- One in my right hand and One on my hip. On the main avatar; The hip sword is checked and the hand sword is disabled.
So the sword on my hip is always seen no matter what.
Once I use my gesture; The hidden sword appears in my right hand.
What I want to do is while I'm using the gesture and have the sword in my hand -- I want the sword on my hip to be hidden -- So it emulates as though I pulled it off my hip.

@spice urchin

[spice urchin]

i told u

u do same thing but flipped

make it inactive

[drifting coral]

main avatar : disable hand, enabled thigh
Animation : Enable hand, Disable thigh

[spice urchin]

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

[drifting coral]

are you still there ? - turrets

[vast dove]

well then

i took off the dynamic bones and they're still moving around

parented to something else?

[normal skiff]

it worries me slightly that so many of the people I hang around in VRChat have an unhealthy obsession with bananas, but then I go and make a banana weapon, and even my audio mixer is called.... shit, what am I doing with my life

[drifting coral]

you might need exception on the body for the earing bones

[vast dove]

how would I do that?

[drifting coral]

check the dynamic bones on the body

[vast dove]

all just hair bones at the moment

[drifting coral]

but are the bone connected to the earings ?

[vast dove]

should i go into the armature to look?

[normal skiff]

so with the new ability to do world space particles and have them appear more or less in the right position, is using Noenoe's pens on avatars an option yet, or is that still going to fall over because of the wobbling

they work perfectly in worlds

[hexed current]

Can you guys help me..

:(?

[drifting coral]

Screenshot the dynamic bone properties for the hair ?

[hexed current]

I know this isnt the right thread, but everyone keeps ignoring me with my issue -_-

[spice urchin]

maybe nobody knows

[drifting coral]

Depends on your issue lol, i might not know what is the issue

[hexed current]

My model is supposed to look like this

https://imgur.com/uoolqDm

when imported

it looks like this

https://imgur.com/bciZpTU

notice the hole

Idk why there's a giant hole in the zipper.

Its fine in blender.

[vast dove]

https://gyazo.com/700c2ca646035e4dbe6d671a47573bfc @drifting coral

[drifting coral]

Decimated automatically?

[spice urchin]

why is stiffness so big

[hexed current]

it shouldnt have decimated

[spice urchin]

the hairs gonna be almost completely attached to the head

[hexed current]

it does it even when I dont press 'fix model'

[vast dove]

i looked at a video to get my values for dynam, thats what it told me

[spice urchin]

did u not try my values

it makes hair move slower and smoother

[vast dove]

i tried em on the earrings, it looked good

it just still does the stretch

[spice urchin]

if too slow just increase elasticity and damping a bit

[drifting coral]

Check if there are any other dynamic bones that connect to the earings, if you still have that earing stretched problem

Hair back doesnt look like it connect to the earing, right ?

[vast dove]

doesnt look like it no

[drifting coral]

My current suggestion is to make a duplicate, and delete all the dynamic bones , and try if it still do stretch

[vast dove]

so i should delete the original and copy it?

well

i deleted all dynamic bones and its still stretching

its moving like it has them with none

[scarlet pumice]

Guys, i made an animation by moving bones of a cloned avatar, the animation works in the preview window, but in game, it simply doesnt. I took the idle animation is changed it a bit to make a custom emote

[vast dove]

@drifting coral

@spice urchin

does that mean weight paint?

[spice urchin]

yes i told u

if u can rotate head

and it doesnt follow head

then its not weight painted correctly

[vast dove]

Okay

so i should open the model in blender again, and then check where?

[spice urchin]

i would recommend saving blend files of characters

re-importing sometimes is very buggy

[vast dove]

i have the blend file

[spice urchin]

ok then yes

[scarlet pumice]

anyone ? doing the animations just like the videos getting pasted around here. Does the 'animator' properties not work for a 'emote' animation and only a 'vr hand emote' ?

[vast dove]

where is weight painting?

[spice urchin]

look it up

https://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Blender_3D:_Noob_to_Pro/Advanced_Tutorials/Advanced_Animation/Guided_tour/Mesh/vg

[scarlet pumice]

Does anyone know why my animation created in animator shows in the preview window, shows up in the emote menu, but doesnt work

[spice urchin]

is it looping

[scarlet pumice]

ya

[spice urchin]

u cant loop an emote

and it has to back into original position and stuff

not whatever its currently set to

[mint wagon]

can you loop a sound coming from hand gesture?

[scarlet pumice]

well i mean its set to loop in unity

i dont mean its looping

[vast dove]

okay

the earrings dont follow the head

in blender

[scarlet pumice]

@spice urchin are u saying that the keyframes for the end and start must end with the same value ?

no one :/

I took the idle animation, edited it so the head tilts up, and the jaw opens like :O. In unity, the animation looks fine, the name appears in the emote list, but it simply doesnt play. It says its 'playing', but it does nothing then ends.(length correct)

[scarlet pumice]

strange, its started working, but only the headtilt. Are jaw animators uncontrollable when u have jaw lip sync on ?

is it possible that the lip animation isnt showing to myself in a mirror, the same way jaw lip sync doesnt ?

[keen reef]

When I'm doing an animation even though it puts the model in the ground it wont do that while playing right?

[sudden marsh]

Did I get mentioned by someone here? o.o

[blissful root]

Was it possible to go past 10 seconds on an emote or we stuck at 10 seconds i forget.

[scarlet pumice]

@grizzled cobalt hey did u resolve the bend body stuff ? just happened to me, no idea how sigh

[grizzled cobalt]

Yeah

https://i.imgur.com/ELgwoqc.png

This was my spine bone

I fixed the whole problem by putting it up straight and moving the chest bone up aswell

so it would look like a normal skeleton

that fixed it

@scarlet pumice

[scarlet pumice]

blah

[grizzled cobalt]

?

[scarlet pumice]

i just undid the 'humanoid' skele

and put it back on

lol

and it fixed it

damn unity

[grizzled cobalt]

XD

👍

[scarlet pumice]

its so funny, all i did, was get annoyed at jaw bone move moving not showing up in game, and screwing up my emotes

so i went and created visemes lol

for AH OH etc

bring model back in, bend body

lol, but caused by the unity 'humanoid' thingy

[grizzled cobalt]

its kinda funny

[scarlet pumice]

not what i did to the model lul

[grizzled cobalt]

about 2 weeks ago

when I started with Tuppers megatutorial

I hated Blender like a fucktard and messed up because I pressed random keys

now I prefer it over unity sometimes

[scarlet pumice]

haha

i use to do a lot of 3d modeling back in the day with 3dsmax

so blender is annoying for me

but, all the info and stuff is blender

[grizzled cobalt]

I had no pre-experience

xd

[scarlet pumice]

would rather have that info than try work it out in max lol

damn, also doesnt help that i have 1mb upload so every time i want to see a change in game i gotta wait 5mins

[grizzled cobalt]

damn

@scarlet pumice but without future proofing

it should take a lot less

lol

you only need future proofing when ur done with your avatar anyways

so it doesnt break on next patches

[scarlet pumice]

how do u disable future proof

[grizzled cobalt]

VRC Settings

take the tick away

[scarlet pumice]

ahh ta

[dire tusk]

Is it possible to make an emote do a particle effect animation? Like an explosion?

[scarlet pumice]

that should help me a lot, thanks mate

[clear yew]

how do you keep a model above the ground during a fully custom animation?

[grizzled cobalt]

;]

[potent obsidian]

The SDK uploader is blocking some of the components on my particle effect when I try to upload. It won't let me use the scripts even though it's a Unity 5.5.x asset. Where can I find out what is disabled on VRChat?

[grizzled cobalt]

Try and Error ?
:]

[scarlet pumice]

@clear yew i went and took the 'idle animation' and used it as a base

[clear yew]

but it's read only :c

[scarlet pumice]

i assume you trying to do an animation that isnt full body

[potent obsidian]

It's a particle effect from the Unity store.

[scarlet pumice]

non full body animations only work for 'VR HAND EMOTES', aka not the 'emote' menu

[clear yew]

yeah ik

im doing full body

[scarlet pumice]

@clear yew dupe the idle animation, then open it up, click the animation within, ctrl+d(dupe it), and it pops out and is editable

[steady dragon]

augh trying to find a particular dance animation to download, but having 0 luck finding it at all, and not able to do mocap or animate whole thing myself

[scarlet pumice]

unity usablity for you right there LUL

[hollow whale]

Anyone having any issues with Snail Marker? I cannot for the life of me get it to work.

[late phoenix]

anyone know how to fix this? I made an idle animation but for some reason the body is a lot further back compared to the head/neck

https://imgur.com/a/OnHtg

i tried changing where the root z position is as well as making the spine go more forward but it doesnt seem to change anything

[grizzled cobalt]

Holy

I swear

Muscle Editor is so fking good

[late phoenix]

yeah its pretty dang helpful

[normal skiff]

this this is freaking insane, all I did was move the physical gun to a different place and now the particles are coming out in another direction >_>

[candid kayak]

so there's no way to trigger animations without VR right?

[normal skiff]

emotes

[candid kayak]

oh i can replace vrc emotes?

[normal skiff]

yeah

[candid kayak]

is there a vid on that?

or is it easy

[normal skiff]

there are a few videos

the ones for importing dances are probably the most useful

[candid kayak]

Yeah I tried importing a dance @normal skiff

it's weird - everything works fine until i do eye tracking via Cats on blender

When I exit eye tracking, no animations work

but when i'm doing the eye tracking testing, it works

[clear yew]

@potent obsidian pretty late but here's the whitelist https://docs.vrchat.com/docs/whitelisted-avatar-components

[tepid mango]

what's the maximum lenght of an animation? and i'm pretty sure it's not 30 seconds

[hot orbit]

Is there a way to instantly add, say, all figers in the animation tab, when you're working on a project so that you can edit their position

[proud lintel]

If you have the muscle animation editor addon you can do that. When you move a slider for a finger it adds all the bones in that finger to the animation tab. Certainly quicker than navigating trees and adding single bones one by one.

[echo wraith]

@tepid mango 10 seconds, or 300 frames.

[tepid mango]

it's not

i have a 38 seconds animation

and it is 38 seconds, not 38 frames

[modest mantle]

Awfully frustrating that my humanoid character just squats in unity and teleports everywhere when I'm trying to animate the bugger.

[tepid mango]

@echo wraith that was refered to you btw

[red moat]

Is it possible to set a custom gesture animation only on one hand so the other one is still free to use with all default gestures? As soon as i make one, both hands only use the default pose or to what i have set it

[gaunt gyro]

@echo wraith Wrong, they upped the max length. Some say 45s but my animations still get cut off at some point. But that goes for both 20s, and 44s animations that get cut off at the last 3-5 sec.

So I lean to believe the cut-off is not due to max limit, but due to another problem.

[echo wraith]

@tepid mango Sorry about giving you the incorrect info!

[gaunt gyro]

@tepid mango Do your animations also cut off randomly regardless of their length?
For example, a 15s animation cuts off at 10-12s
And a 35s animation cuts off at 30-32s?

And yes, I made sure I dragged the blue bar of the animation all the way to the end before I duplicated it out of the baked model.

[tepid mango]

@gaunt gyro depends, i have a get down animation tht works fine and is 38 seconds, and a very long one that after a bit let me move again but continues the animation, feet too, tho i have to not move or else they'll jut move with me

[gaunt gyro]

Hmm so the cutting off is something I'm doing wrong then. I'll look into it when I'm home tonight

[tepid mango]

i gotta look at how long the song in the mmd nightclub is

[gaunt gyro]

You're going to mimic that one then?

[swift wyvern]

Have they changed how you set mouth visemes in the unity or it's just me who is bugged

[gaunt gyro]

Eyetracking is broken since last patch.

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/404722542012792842/405098686734139392/2018-01-10_23-24-38.gif

[sand apex]

Hey when I use snail marker why do my animations slow down?

[robust hound]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/403564616984166400/405695210006380544/airfieldFloat.gif

finally got the animation particles of my little bois down :^)

[stray sinew]

Do particles not follow an item when I have it set to world? I'm trying to make a fire torch and my fire stays low where that animation pose instead of staying with my staff

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/401537039390081054/405701814961569794/unknown.png

[robust hound]

lol, just make the particle child of your torch item :^)

[stray sinew]

I did

[robust hound]

still doesn't work?

[proud estuary]

so um, i have a problem, uhh

well dynamic bone colliders work for me in the scene but

inside vrchat, the dynamic bones themselves work, but the colliders dont

as in the legs still clip through the skirt

[daring frigate]

when using world particle, you have to use a rigid body

[proud estuary]

i asked yesterday no one was able to help so if anyone could help me that would be appreciated ;w;

[robust hound]

@proud estuary

1. basic, porbably done. assign the bone collider to the colliders they will react
2. if a movement is too fast or sudden it will clip through a collider most of the time because the update rate is sometimes too slow. (at least I had this issue for running animations)

otherwise I don't know

[proud estuary]

the colliders assigned yh

as for the 2nd one how could i solve that? if it rly was the case

[daring frigate]

Oh and another question , does anyone know if its possible in vrchat to have an audio source playing an audio multiple times ( like getting triggered by an gesture animation ) but also make sure the previous one is not canceled ?

[robust hound]

reduce movements of the object if it's a dyna bone
make wider colliders

and if it still doesn't work I really don't know, had the problem for a skirt going through legs. but a bigger single collider fixed it just fine

[stray sinew]

@daring frigate RIP Thanks. Simulation space for the fire has to stay Local. Man I wish I can use world, it would look cooler when moving. Thanks 村雨

[robust hound]

what is exactly the looking difference when using local or world ?

[grizzled cobalt]

So I tried around a bit

What is the maximum animation time on an emote?

It's definetely less than 25 I think

But over 15~

[daring frigate]

@stray sinew I managed to make world particle works by using some tricks on an avatar

[stray sinew]

World would make look more realistic with fire floating and disappearing, Like a small trail, when I have it set to local, the fire follow my hand rotation which I am trying to help the fire go up no matter which way I am holding my staff

[daring frigate]

@stray sinew i used this video : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yZxfQkxvxRI&feature=youtu.be

[stray sinew]

I'll check this out

[proud estuary]

i can confirm that it might be clipping through the colliders

[daring frigate]

i did it about a week ago , if i remember corectly i had to do some tweek before it works corectly

[proud estuary]

thank you @robust hound

[daring frigate]

and you can then also use collider to make it interact with the map

i made a gun for my tanya degurechaff model that shooted a lazer and exploded when collidig with walls

[hushed hazel]

Why is my audio clip so quiet for no reason? I dont have the volume turned way down, its just next to impossible to hear

[robust hound]

@stray sinew if you are acknowledged a little bit to unity scripting I think you could make the particles follow the tranform.position of the torch

[stray sinew]

Yea, I don't know anything about scripts lol

[robust hound]

well I think I could do it, but I'd need the scene

meh fk it I have no work left to do, gotta try to make you a script ❤

[daring frigate]

but you can't do custom scripts on avatars right ?

[robust hound]

you can't ?
then how do you use dynamic bones?

[daring frigate]

its a whitelisted component

[robust hound]

erf

thought you just couldn't add complete instance of new object, but unity basics were fine

like just getting a position and setting it on another X)

[daring frigate]

according to the doc : Adding custom scripts to avatars (or worlds) is currently not possible as of November 5, 2017

[robust hound]

meh

hope it will be a feature soon enough

[daring frigate]

i know the playmaker update will allow us scripts on worlds , but no news for avatars

so yeah the best way to use world particle right now is to use some rigidbodies and fixed joints

[robust hound]

yeah and it's not even for avatars

[daring frigate]

you can on avatars with this

[robust hound]

but the particles won't follow x-y of the object no?

[daring frigate]

i used it for a shooting lazer + explode on collision animation

it will*

using the joint

[proud estuary]

ah so

i might be making a mistake here

when testing animations on avatars, are the colliders supposed to work?

mine definitely are not

[robust hound]

if not in playmode, no
if in playmode yes

[daring frigate]

i just place a random Cube object in front of the shooting particle to test it

[proud estuary]

i mean, im playing the scene

[robust hound]

then it's supposed to work

[proud estuary]

then i must be doing something wrong

[robust hound]

just remember, 95% of the time playmode will work pretty much like it will in game

[proud estuary]

ah

gosh i must suck at this

[robust hound]

few exceptions but, at least it's that for physics such as dyna bones and colliders

[daring frigate]

@proud estuary did you correctly link them in the DynmicBone Component settings ?

[robust hound]

"gosh i must suck at this"

it's called learning

I suck too tbh

always spend 2hours on simple thing that should take 10mins

[proud estuary]

yh i linked em correctly tho

i spend like 10 hours lol

dw ill figure this out

i can learn

[daring frigate]

One time when using the quick select for the DynamicBone Colliders i selected the colliders of a cloned avatar i used for an animation , so check in case of ^

[robust hound]

I started like 12 days ago
spent proably 25-30 hours in Unity / Blender doing shit

[daring frigate]

or to be more safe just drag the bone containing the collider directly in the collider setting of the dynamicbone component

[robust hound]

But I already did some Unity programming, so I already knew the environment

so it's normal if you to get acquainted with Unity to be slow on some things here and there

[proud estuary]

i deleted all my cloned avatars to be safe frmo that then reassigned them ;w;

[daring frigate]

i started unity with vrchat too x)

[robust hound]

If you're not into programmation, a lot of things will seem unlogical tho

[daring frigate]

but i directly started with the hardest possible things, Drawing , local / world particles , animations etc . So i could be way more confident when doing simple things

[proud estuary]

nah im rlly into programming

but gosh why can i not get the colliders to work properly

i will figure this out if it means the death iof me

[daring frigate]

But still managed to get limited a lot by Vrchat sdk , Since you can't use script to call PlayOneShot() of an audio source for exemple :/

[robust hound]

Yeah, if you could script little things, life would be a lot easier

[daring frigate]

Because right now in the end your avatar ends up with 3000 Empty GameObject that you enable / disable with animations just to use props or sounds

[robust hound]

Well

You can basically do it with animations tho

[gaunt gyro]

I'm a software engineer as my carreer. But not in the game industry.

[daring frigate]

same

[gaunt gyro]

I'm going to have to learn Javascript for my job. That's amazing since it can be used for so many occasions.

[robust hound]

well true that Unity differs a bit from regular programming
since everything is done with scripts, you lose that hierachy of classes and all. It feels less natural if you are into software dev

@gaunt gyro Don't you dare use Javascript for Unity

[gaunt gyro]

Well, funny thing is that the way how Unity objects work, is the exact same idea as how my work's software works

[robust hound]

It's here, you can do it
but it's less optimised by A LOT
compiles literally 50times slower

and everything about it makes it useless in Unity compared to C# scripting

[gaunt gyro]

You basically create blocks (objects) with inputs and outputs, and you can link other stuff to it, or open the block and edit the internal script for it.

[robust hound]

well it's basic parenting

but when you script and have to create getters for every object in your scene in order to use them
it feels weird
It's mainly because you aren't using instances of your own objects, but Unity objects you just dragged and droped. Which have, at first no link at all with the code

[gaunt gyro]

https://puu.sh/z8COn.png That's how my work's programming looks like

[daring frigate]

those W98 feels in the GUI design x)

[robust hound]

looks old af

yeah right X)

[gaunt gyro]

Well, the software was first created in the 90s, and I guess they never bothered to update the GUI for their tools.

[robust hound]

ye

[gaunt gyro]

I mean, they did include a new way of programming that looks a lot more like Function Blocks though.

[robust hound]

I hate that X)
I never actually worked with it
But coding in drag / drop functions looks terrible to me

I really prefer writing myself, at least I'm sure at 100% I'm the one who messed up when it doesn't work

[gaunt gyro]

https://puu.sh/z8CXD.png Aka this

But we don't use that often because yeah, it sucks.

Although you can just open up those blocks and edit them entirely to your liking

[robust hound]

looks like SQL table relations

[gaunt gyro]

However, in my free time I also program with visual basic

[robust hound]

I programmed smth in excel once with VB, I prefer Java and C# a lot more but I guess it was okay compared to some others

[gaunt gyro]

Yeah this software I use at my job is for physical controllers with I/O that we have to assign from an excel sheet with all I/O in a list. So I was like "fuck that shit" and completely automated that process with a 3000 line VBA script in excel. 😛

[robust hound]

holy moly
what a hero

[gaunt gyro]

Yep, it took me about 2 weeks to make it. But it has saved us days of work already. Usually we needed about half a day to a whole day to get one controller ready. Now, just 30 minutes.

[robust hound]

Automation / scripts is life

still pretty bad at it tho

[gaunt gyro]

Hehe

I remember this story about some dude that found out the coffee machine at his job was hooked up on the internet. So he wrote a script that took exactly 12 seconds to trigger. The exact time that took him to walk from his desk to the coffee machine.

[robust hound]

genius

[gaunt gyro]

And the same guy also programmed his PC so it automatically sends a "late for work" with a random generated excuse to his boss if his PC didn't register logging in activity at a certain time.

[robust hound]

okay that's more than a genius

can't find word for that

[gaunt gyro]

Hehe

[robust hound]

this is even better than automated fishing with motor on the reel

[gaunt gyro]

http://www.businessinsider.com/programmer-automates-his-job-2015-11?international=true&r=US&IR=T

Aaaanyway, way to derail this channel.

[robust hound]

:^)

[noble fern]

Anyone know how to add a screen to an object to allow it to see what a camera sees?

I can't seem to find a component that allows that

[stray sinew]

Alrighty, I got the world particle to work by following the video. the problem now is that when I use the animation, the fire particle is in a complete different spot than where I placed it and each time I activate the particle, it changes its starting position :\

[daring frigate]

ok so it was the thing i had to tweek so it would work

but i'm at my job right now so i can't really check what i changed

[noble fern]

@stray sinew Did you make sure that random start was unchecked?

[daring frigate]

oh yeah

i think i remember

so you have your particle disabled by default ? or the empty game object ?

if you have the gameObject disabled by default , the fixed join will not work

you have to have the gameObject always active , and the particleSystem disabled

[stray sinew]

hmmm

[daring frigate]

you then activate the particle system with the animation

[stray sinew]

I'll try check both

[noble fern]

gameObject must stay enabled

[daring frigate]

yep

[noble fern]

And you gotta make sure that you froze x y z on the rigid body

[daring frigate]

the freeze part is showed in the video i gave him if i remember corectly

[noble fern]

And ensure that the angle is 0 and that no gravity is used. Then depending on the type. You must keep the particle effect on, AND use the animation to enable the emission of the particle

Some you can get away with turning the particle effect on and off. Others you have to turn the emission on and off

[daring frigate]

mine worked just enablind/disabling the particle effect itself

but i guess its safer to enable the emission

[noble fern]

mine worked with a blood stream, but for the blood spatter I had to enable the emission

but know that doing the emission way will increase your polycount

[robust hound]

not if it triggers on an animation tho

but yeah 1 particle is 1 poly

[noble fern]

if the particle system is enabled on your model

and the emission is off

[daring frigate]

it will since the particleSystem will always stay enabled if doing it the emission way

[noble fern]

polycount increases

if particle system is off the polycount doesn't change

[robust hound]

as long as you have 1k poly free to use it should be fine either way

[daring frigate]

but since its a simple fire particle system

i guess enabling / disabling the particle system would work

[noble fern]

I'm struggling right now trying to make a selfie cam

[daring frigate]

never tried that one

[noble fern]

Well I have the tablet and camera, but I can't find anything on where the camera would display what it sees

Maybe I have to script it?

[daring frigate]

there must be a component setting to link it to an object

probably

[stray sinew]

Yass!!!! It works! Thanks so much !

[daring frigate]

No problem 😉

[stray sinew]

I was on edit number 17 on this thing omg

[daring frigate]

You can now even use Collisions to make the fire spread hirozontaly when against a roof or somethin x)

[noble fern]

I made a rocket launcher that fires like that and I'm gonna script in an explosion on collision

[daring frigate]

i did an explosion collision on a "laser" gun i made

just add a subemitter on death

[stray sinew]

baby steps

[noble fern]

hmm

how would you add sounds to it?

[daring frigate]

and for collision just set lifetime to 0

didn't find anyway to add sound sadly

[noble fern]

hmm

[daring frigate]

this way the rocket will explode either on max dist reached or when it hit any obstacles

you could add sound if scripting was permitted on this

[stray sinew]

Now I need to add the crackling of fire to it 😮

[noble fern]

oh they haven't allowed that yet?

I didn't think they did

[daring frigate]

just add an audiosource next to the particleSystem under the same gameObject

and make sure it loops i guess

[stray sinew]

yeye 😄

[daring frigate]

one day we will maybe have avatar scripting

Maybe x)

[robust hound]

it would be good but also risky for them

[noble fern]

so wakam?

Where do you add the explosion on collision?

under the mesh that fires?

[daring frigate]

in your particle system component

you have subemitters

[noble fern]

yep

[daring frigate]

use the death subemitter

it will create a new particle everytime a particle die

you can use free explosions particles from the unity asset store

[noble fern]

sweet

now to figure out how to add sounds to the explosion

[daring frigate]

also on your particle system , under collision , just make it so that on collision : set Lifetime of the colliding particle to 0 , so it will die instantly

[noble fern]

got that working

[daring frigate]

dunno what would happen if you added a audio source to the subemitter system ( if possible) ? you could still try , i'm at work right now ^

[noble fern]

hmm

I'm at work too

but working from home

so

both?

[daring frigate]

oh nice x)

so yeah you can still try to add an audio source to your particle subemitter but not sure

[noble fern]

yeah it only allows for particles

[daring frigate]

so i don't think it's possible without scripting then x)

[heady sundial]

Just attach sounds to the device that trigger when the device becomes active

Oh, of course it needs to scroll down...

[daring frigate]

the sound must be emitted by a particle subemitter

[heady sundial]

Saying this, don't attach sounds right now as you can break the 3D spatial audio for people

[clear yew]

why cant you upload an object with a video player on it?

[heady sundial]

I mean you can probably imagine @clear yew .

That one isn't really rocket science...

[clear yew]

but i've seen people do it before

[daring frigate]

so let's say my gun emits a particle and a firing sound , the particle on death / collision emits a subemitter particle, but can't emit a sound

[heady sundial]

I haven't seen anything recently

[clear yew]

so are they modding the sdk to do so then?

[heady sundial]

@daring frigate I think that's because you've left the invisible ball of which your avatar is permitted to make sounds

@clear yew Unlikely, as the server strips those things out

Not the SDK

[daring frigate]

i mean how am i supposed to attach a sound to the subemitter ?

[heady sundial]

That is a good question, but I don't assume it'd work. If you're doing a firing sound for a gun, add an animation that toggles the sound effect when your particle is toggled

[daring frigate]

the firing sound is done without problem ^

[heady sundial]

Oh, then I guess I'm confused

[daring frigate]

it was about the collision sound

[heady sundial]

Ah, so when the bullet hits something?

[daring frigate]

yep

we can easily setup the collision to produce a subemitter particle , but it cant produce a sound

[heady sundial]

Yeah I don't think that's currently an enabled thing since it's exploitable from a distance

[daring frigate]

well a subemitter is exploitable by itself already

[heady sundial]

Well yes, but they are focusing on sudden sounds more than sudden images

[daring frigate]

ok

[heady sundial]

Like people who run around with SANIC music

Same idea

[daring frigate]

still dangerous for epyleptic people i would say ^

[muted prairie]

People with epilepsy shouldn't be using a VR headset in the first place

[heady sundial]

Of course, but that's a whole can of worms that should really be finalized as...yeah, that ^

[daring frigate]

the posibility to disable some shaders or particle can still be a good thing i think

[heady sundial]

Would probably also say that people with PTSD shouldn't be playing VRChat as well

[tawny comet]

Anyone know how its possible for a animation that works on rock and roll but on other gestures it locks all controls till they go back to idle position???? I cant find anything about it .... i have two frames with the same value =\

[heady sundial]

@tawny comet Sounds like you're not properly triggering the animation on the other gestures

Your animation should be a 0-to-1 "trigger" animation. If there's a longer animation that needs to play, that trigger animation should trigger your animation to play

Else it'll get stuck playing until completion

[acoustic talon]

nah Ive had that happen too with a 0-1 keyframe animation trigger before

you trigger it and then your hand tries to do the gesture super slow and it messes stuff up

[daring frigate]

it did that to me with pen drawing for exemple

[acoustic talon]

think it has to do with certain animations messing with meshes

[daring frigate]

but i think its because of a too big difference in value between the 2 frames

[heady sundial]

I only had that issue when I was animating directly to the object instead of proper setup, but who knows...

Animations are whimsical magic

[daring frigate]

take some vodoo artefacts with you and try again ^^

[tawny comet]

Still confused, I got a handful of animations, making objects active work on any hand but for instance, a tail wag bugs out the hands. I had no maniuplation of the hands but they always bug out, then the animation stops >_> i know on one video there was a guy talking about it and he fixed it with two keyframes at the same value back to back. After i tried that the tail worked on rock and roll but last night i noticed it didnt on fist for example.

[proud estuary]

ahh you guys probaby

get this question alot but

how do i stop my character frmo going into a fetal position everytime they play a custom emote

[daring frigate]

you have to set their position when creating the animation

[proud estuary]

ahh, how do i do that

[daring frigate]

well the same way you do anything else in an animation

for exemple when do you a new hand gesture you have to set each fingers etc

[proud estuary]

ohh yeah

[daring frigate]

i guess for a whole emote you would have to set the avatar position too ( i never did custom emotes but that would be how it works i guess)

[proud estuary]

so i cant have it use what it was before the animation started?

so if it was in a t-pose, for example, cant have it start from there rather then shifting to a fetal position

[daring frigate]

for an emote i don't think so

i think an emote takes control of the whole avatar

[tawny comet]

It does

Something about roots in the animation

[acoustic talon]

o theres an ez fix for that

need the root tpose thing I believe

lemme find it

[proud estuary]

woh theres a fix

right thanks kreme

if u find it

[acoustic talon]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xxSezH13vAI

check the video description

2. talks about the root tpose

[daring frigate]

So you just have to put in the animation the same RootT Value as your avatar then i guess

[proud estuary]

thank u kreme

[acoustic talon]

np

[daring frigate]

but do this only for emotes of course, doing this with hand gesture would f*ck up a lot for vr users xD

[proud estuary]

lol

[noble fern]

So I added an audio source to a particle that turns on on death of another particle but I can't get the audio to play

[daring frigate]

yeah then i guess it's not possible curently 😦

the subemitter probably only use the Particle system component and ignore the others