Can anyone remember where the script is to load a world in desktop and not VR when testing it in Unity?
#world-development
sacred warren
left marlin
Check the prefab database in the pins of this channel. You are looking for launch options script
sacred warren
Thanks. I already had the script in place, but hadn't set it up for this project.
sacred warren
Does anything need to be done to the prefab mirror in the SDK for it to work? It's placed, but, wait, do I have it back to front...
Oh ffs
mild venture
Thanks for the reply earlier, @sacred warren Do you perchance know of a tutorial with the follower functionality?
@opal goblet Oh, wow!! Thanks so much! ❤ So this prefab works fine with VRC then?
harsh zinc
Quick question, is it possible to store variables between sessions in a world for a specific user?
Doesn't matter if they are stored client-side. just whether it's possible.
sacred warren
@mild venture Not off the top of my head unfortunately. I think VRCPrefabs has something for it though and they have an example of it in one of their in-game worlds.
So I'm still new to world building but one thing is confusing me. The world looks good, then I bake lighting and it looks rubbish. Any obvious typical causes for that?
sacred warren
So here's an example. Here's the wall with baked lighting...
Here it is with the baked lighting removed...
lone shell
try to ramp the intensity up
and then bake it
for me point lights are sometimes weird too when baking it, that usually helps it though
sacred warren
Just checked, apparently it's a pre-2018 issue in that you cannot bake specular mapping and HAVE to use mixed or realtime for it to work.
It still shines on the ground, but not on the wall, which you'd think is technically the same thing...
sacred warren
The wall's on static, everything's on static, lol
Looks good in-game on mixed though, just hope performance is ok.
hallow pendant
Can vrc_syncvideoplayer's accept youtube playlists?
prisma moat
dose a sword that interacts through colliders need a vrc object sync?
trying to add a flashlight to a sword..the sword i want others to see you swinging but the flashlight connected to it i need to be local
lyric dew
how to I add an animation of something spinning without it slowing down at the end to spin again
stone hollow
Set the animation curve to linear
half yew
hello
i am in search of someone to help me make a world
i.e. walk me through some of the main processes and such
royal shell
idk what I pressed but now I can't get close to the objects before "leaving them behind" and stop rendering them D:
opal goblet
Press F while having them selected to Focus on them.
royal shell
Oooooh thanks!!
royal canyon
so are there any rules for baking meshes? When I'm baking meshes, should the baked meshes be only static objects?
Same question for texture atlases....when I'm baking textures can an animated object be on the same Atlas as a static object or do they need to be a separate texture atlas?
modest field
https://www.vrchat.com/home/launch?worldId=wrld_3cfb3e1d-20a6-4b16-8139-b58281ee2e4e world is now public, christmas avatars will be added at the end of november and more avatar will be added when the rest of the big world is completed
modest field
i look at my world through my account by clicking on my name and it says public to friends?
how do i get it pubic to everyone?
sacred warren
Yeah, I noticed that. I think that's because it's in community labs. But if that's the case, how is anyone ever supposed to find it? Seems like a vicious circle.
cedar nebula
@modest field You have to submit to community labs, which you can only do if your trusted level is User or higher. If not then just play around in public worlds and make friends and you'll level up within about a week
balmy gate
that means it is still going through the Community Labs process
worlds may take time to go through labs, depending on traffic, "heat" and quality of the world
it is public and can be found in the Community Labs section of VRChat as well as under your own user account or search
patience... yes it's possible for people to find your world and you can make public instances of it
open thicket
is it possible to create an ai character control that is not affected by gravity?
cedar nebula
I haven't played with it much myself but AI has a rigidbody right? You can just disable gravity there. If you mean have an AI be able to navigate full 3D space then you'd have to come up with something else that doesn't use nav meshes
open thicket
yea, seems like a different kind of solution would be needed
bold ibex
Last night I tried uploading a world but the description text kept garbling up when i uploaded it, even when I tried changing it through the web-interface. It removed all spaces and garbled a few words. Only after I changed it through web on my phone it had the right formatting. Anyone else had this when uploading a world?
cedar nebula
yeah the description gets a bit screwed up. It's best to stick with periods only, any other formatting like exclamations or question marks get messed up
bold ibex
Oh that’s why that was. I had an exclamation that I removed later on. Okay makes sense now.
sacred warren
@balmy gate Given that VRC have made is so that community labs is disabled for everyone by default (without many people even being aware of that fact) it seems unlikely that many people will notice new worlds.
Can someone explain the approval process for me? Because I'm seeing worlds with very few visits, uploaded recently that aren't in community labs. How are they somehow fast-tracking through the process so they don't get lost in the void forever?
open thicket
Worlds usually get out of labs quickly if the world has high volume user visits
sacred warren
This one for example has only around 200 visits.
open thicket
In how long
sacred warren
It was only uploaded Saturday
open thicket
Sometimes it can take a bit for a world to get out of land because of the slow build/volume of visits
Eventually it can get out of labs after several more days but the surefire way to get out of labs is to have many visits in little time
sacred warren
Well one I uploaded in March is still in labs. One I've just seen that was uploaded Saturday (and only has around 200 visits, which is the normal slow amount) has already been pushed out of labs.
open thicket
I’ve had a weird instance where I’ve had something public revert back for no reason as well
Maybe it could have had performance issues but i doubt it
If you still have something like that in labs and you want to try again, I suggest you just reupload and put it in labs again
Make sure it’s ready without performance issues
sacred warren
Hmm, guess I'll just leave the worlds to rot in labs then. They didn't revert because they never left labs (one of them is new, I was just wondering what magically makes other worlds get out of labs when they have so few views/favourites, etc).
cedar nebula
if your world doesn't get through labs, update it. It's not really an 'approval' process but a popularity contest. If you don't get many visitors then make some changes, promote it more, etc. If it's still in labs after a week then it'll never get out without some work
sacred warren
But why hide labs worlds by default now? Seems like an odd way to run a popularity contest, when people now don't know it exists in the first place...
opaque finch
Is there a way to detect the player's head OnEnterTrigger? I'd like to swap between normal BGM and distorted BGM when they player's head is underwater. I tried putting a cube trigger as a child of the Main Camera, since that tracks the player's head, but it didn't work. Anyway, I'd really like to make it so that the audio swap occurs while the head itself is underwater. I'm aware I could just make a trigger under the entirety of the water that detects player local, but I was wondering if there were a more precise way of doing something like this.
solid helm
To track the player, you'll need to use a player tracking system. There's a premade one in the Toybox prefab pack, which you can find in the VRCPrefabs list in the pinned messages. The player tracker will follow the player around, and you can then put your trigger on that.
bold ibex
anyone knows how to make it so if a particle hits a player, it will trigger something?
lone shell
I never really understood sound source, can someone help me? For some reason i can still hear the sound outside of Max Distance
teal slate
Make sure you're using 3d sound not 2d
mild spoke
Is it possible to make worlds in the later version of unity where you can make shaders with nodes?
raw vessel
hey folks
i don't know what to do about preventing others access seat's,item's see trough wall's and pressing some button trigger's as well.
so is there anything i can do about to prevent those problems.
any tutorial or whatever
please help
bronze smelt
@mild spoke The included shadergraph in later versions don't really work with VRChat afaik.
You also can't use a version higher or lower than the one VRChat tells you to use.
sharp pewter
Are there any publicly available rain/rainy window shaders or prefabs?
mild spoke
@bronze smelt The biggest reason I want it is that finding shaders with refraction and proper water is just so stupidly hard if you dont pay like lots of cash. I dont want to pay for something I can make myself in blender in seconds...
bronze smelt
There is a few good water shaders in the pinned link (database) that doesn't cost
bronze smelt
In the shader tab
open thicket
you can make a 2d rolloff by messing wit audio curves and still achieve a rolloff
just need to uncheck spacialization
@lone shell
opaque finch
@solid helm Thank you so much, works like a charm!
open thicket
how do you save animations for ai target source changes?
it seems whenever i save the scene it automatically deletes within the animation and i have to replace the targets everytime
or i mean create a copy of the scene
balmy gate
yeah hmm I'm not sure in-scene gameobject references are a good idea in animation cips
You might be able to do this by using an editor script to instantiate the animator and animation clips within the scene, and let them be saved in the scene itself but that will probably be a headache to even figure out what is going on with things
I think better is use UI Button OnClick actions to modify the target property of the AI
or alternatively have the AI target some game object you make, and use some component that lets you follow another game object every frame
open thicket
UI Button is basically Unity's version of an SDK right? or triggers within unity
balmy gate
kind of - make a new empty gameobject, add a Button component
to run it from a vrc trigger, and add an Animator with an Animation clip that has an AnimationEvent on frame 0:00 and select "Press ()" in the animation event
make sure to have the object turn itself off in the button's On Click functions , and then you use a trigger to SetGameObjectActive on this empty game object
what that does is turns it on, the animator plays its animation which Press()es the button which runs stuff and then turns itself off again
toybox and other prefab kits include a lot of examples of this technique and come with animation files to do this
balmy gate
https://github.com/Merlin-san/EasyEventEditor/releases/tag/v1.0.0 - good editor script for working with UI Buttons in unity
if you go to preferences you can turn on a little Invoke button that lets you run the button manually in play mode. really useful for testing things without uploading
royal shell
If I export a package made out of Not Bad Cars prefab (all dependencies included), I don't need to import it in other projects for my package to work?
raw vessel
is there a way to select all objects reside's in game and empty game objects in unity hierarchy (except text,script's,audio source and other components) ?
prisma moat
how do you make 3d text occludabule?
balmy gate
Use UI -> Text is probably easier
Otherwise you have to duplicate the GUI/Text Shader code and make a shader with the correct texture for your font. Quite messy
prisma moat
ooy ty @balmy gate
sacred warren
Is audio trigger flaky? It doesn't seem to fire very reliably.
balmy gate
@sacred warren what do you mean by audio trigger? You need an audio source
How many audio sources are in your scene? players talking are also using audio sources, and unity can only have 32 active audio sources at a time
sacred warren
This. It fires, but seems to need a gap of several seconds before fires else it doesn't make a sound.
Only 1 already playing (background music)
balmy gate
it won't play if it's already playing
sacred warren
The audio file is only 0.25 seconds long, so it shouldn't be that, unless there's some sort of buffer cooldown.
balmy gate
you can use PlayOneShot I think if you want to play more than once
oh hmm yeah it would only be up to the length of the audio file
sacred warren
Hmm, not seeing any actions with OneShot in the name
balmy gate
might be one of those ui button things
or go back to doing the classic avatar maneuvers: disable and enable the component or game object with Play On Awake checked
VRC Triggers are such a black box to me: no way to test in editor. Useless docs just say "Triggers an audio clip to play on the selected audio source(s)"
sacred warren
Hmm, not sure how you'd do a two-part action given the VRC_Trigger menu there.
balmy gate
Use SetGameObjectActive false then another SetGameObjectActive true
of course you would need one audio source per possible sound
sacred warren
Does it fire them in sequence then?
balmy gate
yes
pretty sure at least. haven't tested this from a vrc trigger...
honestly PlayOneShot is what I would use...you just have to do the usual UI Button mechanics: enable an object with an animation that has animation event Press () on frame 0. UI Button does PlayOneShot and disables itself when done
I thought vrc triggers had a playoneshot action somewhere, or does everyone use UI Button
bold ibex
anyone knows how to make it so if a particle hits a player, it will trigger something?
sacred warren
Hmm, shame that that's far, far more long winded lol.
prisma moat
i believe under the particle settings theres trigger and collision. but i have no clue from thare.
wat layer dose a pickup need to be on to make it instanced to the player / not visible by other when picked up?
balmy gate
@prisma moat What do you want exactly
easiest thing is remove ObjectSync on the pickup
so it doesn't get synced with other players at all if you pick it up
prisma moat
dose a sword need object sync to interact through colliders with enemy's?
cedar nebula
@bold ibex simple question, difficult answer. Is this for pvp guns? Because if so I'd highly encourage you to look into using the ProtectCameraFromWallClip script (AKA raycasting) from Standard Assets instead. Particle guns are horrendous inconsistent garbage
prisma moat
ai controler has sword set as target, bouth sword and enimy has isnear and isdmged colider to interact
i do want the other players to see other swinging the sword but the sword has a flashlight attached that i want only the person holding it to see
so i guess the quehtion is can you make a pickup have a synced and unsynced part
sword visible to player ...light not
cedar nebula
in that case keep the object sync but make use of triggers. Have the light disabled by default, and then use OnPickup Local to enable the light and then OnDrop Local to disable the light
bold ibex
@cedar nebula working on a PvP world with guns so idk what to do.. but particle guns
cedar nebula
Honestly this late in the year, I'd wait for Udon to come out saying it's only about 2 months away at this point. It's just not feasible with our current tools. If you really want to try now then yeah raycasting, there's a prefab in Jetdog's Prefabs for it just called "Rifle" if I remember. But you'll never be happy with particle guns, they are extremely inconsistent
lyric sierra
I need some help: I am trying to build a (very basic) world but whenever I click "Build and Test", it just opens the standard vrchat client, not my world.
bronze smelt
If you get a loading screen, then a black screen, and a loading screen again. Then it means there is something wrong with your world
lyric sierra
no. it just opens normal vrchat and I can go to the hub world and there are other people
lyric sierra
I am following the docs to the letter and it is not working
bronze smelt
Then there could be something with the world. Try a new scene, but only do a simple plane and the VRCWorld prefab. If that works, then it's something with your current world
bronze smelt
Or that ^_^
dry vale
So I uploaded a new version of a world I'm working on, to find out it suddenly increased in file size from 90mb to 500mb+. Have no idea why. In the editor log (after build) under the file size breakdown, it lists "Levels" as being 92% of the bundle size at 1.5gb. Anybody know what could have caused this, or how to fix it?
It's important to note that I didn't change anything between versions except that I edited a small bit of an existing texture, and Checked "mirror ignores occlusion culling" on one of my mirrors.
If anybody has any ideas, please ping me
cedar nebula
Levels tends to be static batching, never seen it that bad though. Is your world crazy huge or something?
dry vale
Not really
and again, it wasn't that bad before
and I didnt suddenly enable batching
it's been on as far as I know, for a while
Not sure if it's been working properly because of lightmaps
but I don't think that it would be the cause of this seemingly random spike
severe frost
what should I add to the world ID so the VRCportal puts you in a new instance instead of the same one?
trying to add portal of the same world it's in
but entering the portal only puts you back in that same instance
cedar nebula
just put in a normal world ID and it should generate a new instance. That might only work if it's a public world though, unlisted worlds might feed into the same private instance maybe? In general we can't really customize portals that much
prisma moat
just updated my world... for somereson now i cant use the menu ..like settings or worlds.. like im forced in to vr settings when iv launched in dessktop mode
the menu works on other worlds just not mine?
only thin iv done new is a ui canvus with text on it i that wat borked it?
just knoticed the mouse blinking after trying the menu like it leaveing and reentering the game
prisma moat
wait i might of left a fps controler in the game ...cheching
im on dektop
desktop
i think the fps controller did it ...i hope
yep thats what it was lol
dry vale
@cedar nebula So disabling static batching fixed the file size issue, but now my drawcalls are drastically increased...
It's weird because I was batching everything before, and the file size wasn't this big. It's really driving me nuts
cedar nebula
you know what, did you happen to update the models at all? Static batching can get big if the models themselves are super high in tris
dry vale
I did update the model to smooth the normals (because they were previously unsmoothed and I'd been meaning to fix that)
would that have screwed it up so badly?
cedar nebula
I wouldn't think so but maybe? Go into play mode, point your camera at your entire world and check the tri count in the stats
dry vale
but I didn't increase the number of tris between updates
anyway in the default position of my main camera it's reading 1.2 mil tris
bold ibex
I don't know if this is the right place for it but I've update my world several times and every time I try and do offline testing or publish the world again it still remains the same as it was the first time.
I've tried removing the SDK and putting it back on and transferring the world to a different scene, do I need to start a new VRchat account or something?
cedar nebula
Entorix that's a lot of tris, try updating the models again without the smooth shading and see what the tri count is then? I know Unity counts tris differently based on seams, normals, etc
@bold ibex You probably have an error that's causing your world not to update. Go into Play mode and look at the console and see what errors it spits out, then try to resolve them (usually by deleting the script that's causing them). If you recently installed Post Processing v2, delete the Tests folder
bold ibex
okay ill have a look, thank u
dry vale
@cedar nebula it's about the same as it was before I updated the model. I just have a lot of tris in the scene. Most of which are inactive at any given time due to occlusion culling and LODs
cedar nebula
hhhmm then I'm not sure then. It's weird your static batching would suddenly get so massive
dry vale
yeah I'm completely confused lmao
meager anchor
Does anyone know any good image upload websites that can do image link replacements for our VRC panorama? I tried google photos and imgbb, it does generate an image link but I can't modify the pic to retain that unique image link...
cedar nebula
a service like that might exist, but honestly you'll probably have to host your own website for it
bold ibex
I uploaded my world and I could test it just fine, but now that I've uploaded it when I try to go there it sends me back to the hub, anyone got a fix?
rain shadow
Just try reupload
bold ibex
It didn''t work /:
rain shadow
Send the world id?
bold ibex
wrld_10195cc5-b317-49a1-9228-fceb54795390
rain shadow
What sdk version are you using?
bold ibex
2019.09.18.12.05
rain shadow
Oh actually just reset the world ID
bold ibex
how do i do that, just delete and reupload?
rain shadow
on the vrcworld object click the detach button
bold ibex
ok done, what now, reupload?
rain shadow
Can you go into play mode in unity?
bold ibex
u mean offline testing, because i can, i cant use to uploaded version*
rain shadow
theres a play button at the top of the unity editor
bold ibex
it just greys out the unity, is it supposed to load something
bold ibex
it worked, thank you so much
cobalt sluice
Is there a good shader for trail renderers to appear in mirrors?
I'm using standard but it doesn't appear
rain shadow
If you want it to appear properly in mirrors you have to change its alignment from view to local
and probably use a double sided shader
@ashen charm Can you screenshot how its setup? its pretty hard for people to help without examples
Okay will dm you since it might take some time to fix
Can't use custom scripts but something like that would be mostly possible
Theres only a limited amount of scripts that are whitelisted
Pretty much all the standard assets are
Plus some extra + the vrchat ones
most things are possible to do but have to usually find a minor work around for some things
How familiar with VRChat are you?
lyric sierra
Im having trouble testing my world. I am following the docs exactly and the only thing in the world(besides VRCworld and Scene Descriptor) is a flat plane. Whenever i do build and test it just takes me to the vrchat hub world. IDK how to fix it. help
signal turtle
I can do basic modeling and lots of coding though
lyric sierra
nvm i might know whats wrong
rain shadow
VRChat already has built in video and live stream players so you dont need to go through the effort of setting everything up
If your vrcworld location doesnt have a collider under it it will send you back to your home world
@signal turtle you can already find prefabs made by other players that do pretty similar things
jovial charm
anyone know why i get ppl flickering in and out in my mirror? i have mirror occlusion turned off on the mirror, is it maybe my worlds occlusion culling?
rain shadow
The occlusion in the mirror and your worlds occlusion uses the same data
jovial charm
weird cause on the corners of my view ill see myself start flickering in the mirror
rain shadow
Do you have the occlusion box on the mirror settings checked?
jovial charm
nope
rain shadow
you need to have it checked
signal turtle
@rain shadow Oh ok, nice. I'll have to track those down
jovial charm
i disabled it to see if it would fix it cause it was doing it even when it was checked
rain shadow
@signal turtle https://github.com/ziritsu/SyncVideoPlayer_iws or https://github.com/MunifiSense/Hangout-Player
First one has some issues but is what most people use
don't know much about the second one but I think it has ownership transfer which means any player can input a video url
jovial charm
yeah was having issues with that first one it would just disappear when u click video or stream, lol so went back to jetdogs and edited the ui panel
random owl
So when I disable and enable a object with a sound source inside it it stops taking the audio curve for consideration and just plays the sound no matter how far you are, is there something to do to fix this?
white bridge
the world im making gets to the intalizing world screen then sends me back home is there a way to fix this
rain shadow
on the vrcworld component click the detach button for the world blueprint id
and make sure the vrcworld component has a collider under it
sacred warren
Why does the audio source for an object appear to be in the middle of the map, and not on the object you place it on?
sacred warren
The object is on the left and that's where the audio source is, so why is the audio source in-world all the way at the middle? (on the right)
sacred warren
Well double clicking the parent they all sit in takes me to here, which is where I'd expect. (this is what the arrow was pointing at above)
Is the issue that the position in the top right is actually relative to the world centre? (thus 0,0,1 is basically the middle of the world)
rugged schooner
the island model isnt mine just a place holder for when i get mine made
rain shadow
Yes the origin of the mesh is probably way off from where the mesh actually is
sacred warren
Yeah, if I empty it and double click it, it's centre is the middle of the world
I can work with that now that I know how it works, thanks.
bronze smelt
You can also still use Mesh collider on it
rain shadow
not your world @rugged schooner
yeah something like that would be better as a mesh collider
rain shadow
so remove the box collider and make it a mesh one
bronze smelt
But where is your world spawn sophie?
rain shadow
and make sure your vrcworld component is above that mesh
yeah the vrcworld is your world spawn and if its misplaced you will have issues
rain shadow
no
rugged schooner
k
rain shadow
in the world space
the scene view
move the vrcworld game object to where you want players to appear when they join the world
rugged schooner
k
rain shadow
Once you've moved it send a screenshot of where you've placed it
rugged schooner
rain shadow
Yeah thats probably good
mild venture
Question. Can you have multiple planes of gravity in a world? Like, I could walk up walls as well as the floor?
rain shadow
Yes
Realistically though no
It has been done properly by one player which is CyanLaser, but its likely way to finnicky or for something like that to work in a world not built for it
mild venture
He's done it in a VR world? I'd like to see, if so.
The map I want to add it on was made for it.
rain shadow
He hasn't made it available to use yet
But you can watch this video to see how it looks and functions
left marlin
👀
left marlin
While I haven’t released a prefab, i have explained how it works multiple times. The issue is that no one seems to understand how to do the math part since it isn’t exactly obvious with what we are given.
mild venture
Oh, you've explained it? Do you have a vid or tut?
I totally didn't fail math in school
rain shadow
The last hour of that video is mostly him explaining how its done
mild venture
Ah, okie. I'll watch it when i get on PC.
rain shadow
But unless you're very familiar with how VRChat works and all the Vrcsdk functions its very likely not worth trying to replicate
mild venture
Once I decide on something, I won't rest til I figure out how to do it. :pepehappy:
nooo my emojis
dont work here i forgot
opal goblet
well if you failed maths in school...this is like maths in college :P
mild venture
i can do it if i just belieb
rain shadow
From what Cyan has said it doesn't sound like the maths part is difficult, just extremely unintuitive
mild venture
So lots of experimentation to gain the desired effect?
Because it's not so simply stated?
left marlin
The system itself is two pieces really. The first is giving everyone a station (chair) and using that to manually place every remote player. The second part is figuring out where everyone should be placed using math to determine your current world rotation.
I’ll just post a link to my write up on player base tracking, which is a requirement for this. If you understand the math for that, you should hopefully be able to expand into other weird things.
http://vrchat.wikidot.com/worlds:guides:player-tracking
mild venture
Ohhh, interesting. Thank you, Cyan. 🙂
broken kernel
I made a world last year which was public and approved. But the unity update broke the lighting and I set it to private.
I recently patched the world and tried to publish it again. But It still reads 'private'. And I can't push it to the community labs either. Am I missing something or is there another procedure to make an already published world public again?
bold ibex
what layers do you need selected to make low quality mirrors?
so that it only shows the player
bronze smelt
@broken kernel Running the latest SDK?
sacred warren
@bold ibex I imagine unticking environment would handle most of it. I'm just trying to figure out how I put that on a button...
broken kernel
@bronze smelt , Nah, I think the SDk is a couple of months old.
Thanks for the tip though, I'll try publishing again after getting the latest one.
bronze smelt
Also, what's the world ID? You might have some tags on it that prevents it from going public
bold ibex
thanks!
broken kernel
@bronze smelt
Its wrld_76dbb00c-2f48-4d53-8d83-29396eba
modern kayak
@bold ibex environment won't have anything on it unless you put stuff there, so unchecking it probably won't do anything
Default layer is where almost everything from a world will be. You could uncheck that if you don't want to show the world
modern kayak
But if you want to selectively do just players, you want mirror reflection and players.
opal goblet
Mirror Reflection was your Avatar including the head right?
And PlayerLocal was your Avatar without the head?
signal turtle
@rain shadow thanks!
bronze smelt
@broken kernel that world id is missing a few letters ^_^
sacred warren
So is it possible to modify the property of something VRC_Trigger? As it seems to have a somewhat limited list. I need to change a property of the mirror (i.e. disabling Environment reflections) but can't see an obvious way of doing that (and searching for anything vrc_trigger related doesn't help much).
rain shadow
If you want to change mirror states/layers you have to have separate mirrors and switch between them
each mirror with the different settings you want
broken kernel
@bronze smelt
My bad, here's the full id: wrld_76dbb00c-2f48-4d53-8d83-29396ebab935.
sacred warren
@rain shadow Ahh, that's a good idea. I assume as long as the object isn't enabled, it won't affect performance?
rain shadow
Yeah a disabled mirror wont have any performance impact
sacred warren
Hmm, that toggle logic is going to interfere with my "turning the mirror itself on/off" logic. Nope, actually I'll just put them in sub objects, ignore me
rain shadow
If you have multiple mirrors a good way of doing it is having a trigger for each mirror
sacred warren
Not being able to just write scripts to handle all this is... a little annoying. Then you could just do logic and checks and such.
rain shadow
and have the trigger to enable that mirror as a toggle and on the same trigger have it disable every other mirror
sacred warren
Yeah, I think I've got it, just layered a few things. So an "optimised" mirror would have what, the Environment layer disabled?
rain shadow
MirrorReflection layer only would be most optimized
as you would only see your self in it and nothing else
but like Phasedragon said MirrorReflection and Player layer
modern kayak
Mirroreflection if you want to see yourself, players if you want to see other players, pickup if you want to see pickups, and default if you want to see pretty much everything else.
The fewer you do, the more optimized it is
sacred warren
Are genuinely none of the rest needed?
rain shadow
Yeah its fine like that
sacred warren
Hmm, fair enough. Thanks you two.
rain shadow
Will just show you and other players + whatever your skybox is
sacred warren
That'll work then. Thanks. The "Stereo Left/Right" had me a bit worried and thought it may break VR.
Yep, that all works, cheers guys.
prisma moat
is thare a way to change textures on a object with a trigger? like change a blue box to a red box in game?
cobalt sluice
@prisma moat use SetMaterial
Does anyone remember how to get around this message? I'm receiving it again when I click "Build & Publish" or "Build & Test"
Only occurred after I copied my project and opened the copied version
bold ibex
When your world seems to be "jittery" and in Unity things are jumping around away from you when you zoom in on them, is there a way to fix this?
valid ember
Can anyone point me to good resources or videos for designing a nice world space canvas UI? I know the basics of unity canvas, but I want to spice it up and make it look custom.
cobalt sluice
@bold ibex did you press F with a smallish object selected?
valid ember
^ that's what I do, sometimes you inadvertently have a weird zoom level
bold ibex
I basically am having this problem after I upload. It's not just in Unity. Doesn't matter what I focus. When I upload it, I go into the world in VRC and the whole world and my avatar are vibrating basically. So weird.
valid ember
is your ground a rigidbody or something?
I'm trying to imagine how that would happen
bold ibex
Seems to do with camera distance and scaling. Like, I'm trying to upload with VRCCam being my new picture and it's acting like there's more than 100000 units of distance from the camera to the back of the scene. I don't believe my project is that big in scale.
you can see in the camera preview the top half is the skybox because it's clipping the maze in half lol
But it's max distance is set to 10000000 lots of zeros basically, and being at 10000 is what i usually set it to and that's like, the very front of the maze, I know the maze is not really much more than 10000, so I'm confused
Ok so that was the near clipping distance being set to 0.01, apparently that's too low. It should be more like .3, but yea, it's really the camera being stuck to my face when I go into the world that's mysterious to me right now. When I turn my head, it grabs the skybox and turns it and whatever else is in my vision with me. Only in this world. Something messed up. Trying to replug-in the reference cam into VRCWorld and such, but I can't think of much I could do to even troubleshoot it otherwise.
valid ember
are you getting floating point errors lol?
bold ibex
That's precisely what's going on, something must be doing behaviour like that but I don't see any errors, no.
bold ibex
https://youtu.be/IlCwKZT3UJg this is a video of what's happening in-game, it's happened with old worlds of mine, before, too. I could never understand why, but I assume it has to do with the scale of the bounds for the world being too wide, so I'm going to try to reduce it. I'm not sure otherwise.
In Unity it feels like I hit the walls zooming out when I have nothing selected. Like max zoom but I'm still halfway in on the picture. What causes that?
Somehow my project fell down the y-axis pretty far without being obvious about it, was 20000 units below zero, so I guess that is the effect. lol. At least I hope that's the problem. It would make sense, you'd be perpetually respawning and frozen just like this.
supple drift
that's probably the problem! - it looks like jitter / floating point errors from being too far away from the world's origin
usually you can tell because the VRC UI also goes sicko mode
sacred warren
This is a bug Planet Explorers ran in to and it basically made the game unplayable over time.
Anyway, question: when baking lighting, emissives seem to get baked too which is what I'd expect, but the amount of baked glow is disproportionately low compared to how bright the emission itself is. Is there any way of correcting for this?
sour fox
Increase light strenght maybe? Or create an occlusion map (maybe)
red magnet
so some worlds apprently have 3rd person cameras for desktops now
does anyone know how to implement those options?
cedar nebula
it's a prefab, check the pins for the vrcprefabs database and it should be in there
red magnet
thanks alot
royal shell
Does someone know if theres a way to get the audio that a player is hearing+his own audio/voice, and replicate it in other location? to combine it with a camera and have POVs of players, for transmiting them on a screen/quad
cedar nebula
as far as I know you can't broadcast voices
balmy gate
@royal shell using CyanLaser's gravity changing trick: a desynced mobilized/immobilized station, moving the player to the place where you want his voice to come from... possibly can be combined with an player voice mod to amplify the voice and increase the range
you'd need to do some tricks to render some copy of the player in the original location if you want to see them where they should be
left marlin
(My system is for manually controlling where you see/hear players, if you want to see them and hear them in different locations, this will not work)
balmy gate
I mean if you're ok with some weird projector trick to render a copy of them in the original location
it might be possible with a shader that reads the correct player position from a render texture... the only downside of projectors is you cannot access the original texture, so either you do some screenspace copying or you can make the player kind of a hologram while this effect is happening
royal shell
I would like to have POV of players while they are kart racing 
balmy gate
this is for kart racing? what is the intent behind the voice thing
you may be able to get a sufficient effect by using voice player mods to make the voices 2d or cover the whole map
left marlin
My system isn't worth that. Have cameras for POV and increase voice falloff
balmy gate
^
I was expecting more like a concert sort of thing where you have a player on stage but want the voices to come from speakers
royal shell
It was for having a more interesting thing than just video, but if its that hard to make welp hahah 😁
balmy gate
the new voice mods system gives lots of flexibility for how voices are heard...
but the only thing is everyone in the world will hear the voices in that case
royal shell
yeah thats the problem
balmy gate
you do have the players captive in stations...are they in the racecars and invisible? I mean you can then just locally enable a FollowTarget script to position the stations all in a wall behind the TV screen. and move them back into the cars if you leave the TV room
it wouldn't require cyan's whole system since you already have racecar drivers captive in a chair ;-p
just somewhere behind the wall if you clip through there will be a pile of racecar drivers in chairs awkwardly floating there
but yeah you can't easily make players visible in two places (aside from one of the crazy shader projector hacks).
No solution is perfect. Think about what's most important in your world. If hearing players all the time is important, maybe easiest to make all the players voices cover the whole map
that's what phasedragon did in his racing map and it worked pretty well IMHO
royal shell
Hmmmmm maybe I could just do that (infinite voice range), and thinking about it, I would like to hear all the players on the map because its big and easy to get lost XD
left marlin
Just letting people know that an updated PropSpawner prefab has been added to the database. This version should be much lighter on network traffic when people leave the world (shouldn't see lag).
PropSpawner is a system that spawns every player an object upon joining the map. When a player leaves, the object is destroyed.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/ijrdc1wyh5hvb3i/PropSpawnerV2.unitypackage?dl=0
red magnet
so the 3rd camera prefab dont really work for whatever the reason
i think its because its missing some scripts but cant figureout which
anyone have the same problem?
balmy gate
Standard Assets
@red magnet almost all prefabs require standard assets. it's free in the unity asset store and one of the few sets of scripts whitelisted by vrchat
usually says in the readme or download pages
red magnet
i already have the standard assets installed
and the toybox asset which was required as well
hmmm
ill try and reinstall
bold ibex
So I added a few things to my unity world (a tree with way too many polygons) and now i cant build and test the world, it just goes black after pressing go in vrchat. I deleted the tree and the other stuff I build and deleted the assets and it still wont work
anyone got a solution?
rain shadow
Any errors in the console?
bold ibex
nothing in the red, it just says a bunch of stuff in the vrchat folder isnt being used
oh nvm i fixed
severe frost
anyone know what I should change inorder so people can hear the bonfire louder the closer they get to the range?
it seems the sound only plays when I step directly on the fire and when I step off, the sound stops.
feral umbra
Hello. i am having some trouble with world building. Im trying to create an audio source that will trigger when a player walks through it without having to use an animation. How would i set that up in the VRC-Trigger? im also having trouble getting the audio localized to one spot, instead of playing map wide or not at all. Thank you for any help you can provide 🙂
bold ibex
I am trying to upload my world and its saying this like what. im trying to build and test but it wont let me.
severe frost
will trigger when a player walks through it
try
VRC_Trigger OnEnterCollider Local
near escarp
@bold ibex check the unity console for errors
left marlin
You need to link the sdk to the location of your vrchat client. Go in settings and click the edit button and find the vrchat.exe.
ornate parcel
Is it better to model the world in Unity or can I model it in Blender3d and just set colliers in unity? I have little unity knowledge but comfortable in blender
rain shadow
Better to use blender
And if you use what Tupper said here with overwriting fbx files in unity its pretty seamless to edit externally and then have it update fine in unity
ornate parcel
Nice, thanks a lot man
buoyant hollow
@severe frost check this box
cobalt sluice
Does that work? I have to uncheck "Enable Spatialization" to use the volume curve
cedar nebula
yeah that works, you should only uncheck the spatialization if you're trying to make 2D 'background' audio
modern kayak
@ornate parcel you can do either, both methods are valid. However it's worth noting that if you create the entire world as one big mesh, then you won't be able to make use of occlusion culling. Best to separate meshes by rooms so that they can be culled when not in view
bold ibex
anyone knows how to make a trigger activate when player clicks respawn
near escarp
Create a trigger that enables an object at spawn that has a collider once they leave the spawn area@bold ibex
we don't have an OnRespawn yet
bold ibex
alright, thanks!
past wave
im in the last few steps before uploading my world, after finally getting my baked lights to look ok enough, i have just discovered that some of the props in my world that have vrc_pickups on them no longer work, they are just cubes with models as children, i havent touched them since at all. the cube will move, just not the model under it.
cobalt sluice
@cedar nebula most of my audio sources are "semi-2d", so I assume I can't enable spatialization or it will ignore my own spatial curve
I've also found that if I have too many audio sources with "Enable Spatialization" checked, player voices start cutting out when you're near them
well I don't think it's just from spatialization, it's just something about the VRC Spatial Audio
cedar nebula
yeah that's a problem, you can't have semi-2D anymore I don't think. It was a bug introduced along with the spatial audio component, if audio is any % 2D (even if it's like 99% 3D) it's global audio.
The voices cutting out is probably because you have too many audio sources in general, Unity can only handle 32 playing at once before things start cutting out (this includes player voices)
cobalt sluice
well I only have 3 overlapping at the spawn and voices cut out there
there are 3 overlapping by this fountain but the voices are chopping
note that voices are fine if you get >10 feet away from people
cedar nebula
even if you can't hear the audio source it still counts. So if you're at like 30 total active sources across the entire scene and 3 people join, you'll have problems
cobalt sluice
that makes more sense
do inactive ones count?
I counted and I have 29 active sources
cedar nebula
if it's not playing anything then it's fine, it's only the ones actively making noise that cause you issues
cobalt sluice
ok
this definitely wasn't an issue with ONSP though
the day I converted to VRC Spatial is the day voices started failing
cobalt sluice
all are 128 except the music which was 0
so I should set them to 256?
also the output is not set to Master, I assume that's not necessary
I'll try audio zoning then using triggers to turn audio sources on/off
royal shell
need help with a checkpoint system I'm making 🙉
I want to do a Set Parent of a spawned object to NextRP (next respawn point) when a player collides with Checkpoint. Every player has his own spawned object.
I already made (partially) the logic for when someone triggers his respawn, NextRP changes location
severe frost
Is it possible to make UI Button as toggle?
I'm trying to make a ui button to enable or disable a mirror
or does it not work with just 1 button?
trying to do the same with background music but im not too familiar with UI stuff yet
rain shadow
There is another UI function called toggle, which is basically just a button that toggles, why not use that?
cedar nebula
personally I think the UI toggle is ugly as hell. Remember you can activate triggers from UI buttons, so just have it feed into a local toggle trigger. Maybe set up a state machine to give it some animation flare
rain shadow
Base unity UI is pretty ugly but pretty much all of it is customizable
just takes a few minutes of messing with it to make it look nice
severe frost
thnx I think I got them working
severe frost
hello again
I have one final problem in my map
I made this box area so that if you exit the area, the mirror will turn off
but it seems to be conflicting with the laser pointers for the UI buttons of the mirror
so the laser pointer on the player's hand in VR doesn't show
but when the player steps outside the range, the laser pointer is visible again
and can activate the UI buttons.
how do I fix this?
On desktop the UI buttons work perfectly fine.
balmy gate
@severe frost one way is use the MirrorReflection layer. I believe that layer will not interfere with interaction
severe frost
thankyou, I'll go and try
vapid badge
what was the steam command to make vrchat automatically start in desktop mode?
and would this carry to test building?
balmy gate
--no-vr is what it actually uses @vapid badge but the helper script is good
vapid badge
I tried that but test build still launched in vr
balmy gate
You have to set it to run through the helper script
Will say windows script host if you did it correctly
cobalt sluice
@severe frost you should change the affected layers to "PlayerLocal" as well
drowsy rampart
does anyone know what i need to do (how long i need to play vrchat) before i can start uploading
open thicket
what components do I need to have an interactable object change avatars?
just the sendrpc and the avatar pedestal script?
i don't want the portal
cedar nebula
@drowsy rampart You need to be at least New User to upload your own stuff and at least User to be able to publish to Community Labs. Ranking up is mostly just a matter of play time, exploring worlds, and especially people friending you. You can get New User in about 2 good play session, and User is about 1-2 weeks
@open thicket I'd look at the avatar pedestal prefab that comes with the SDK, but off the top of my head it should be just sending an RPC to the pedestal component, I don't remember which one it was, I think it was like EquipAvatar? Definitely double check with the prefab
frigid estuary
I have a very dramatic issue with my world. When you spawn you can't open your menu and your vision is static. When you move your head in vr you don't move at all. You cant also control the character anymore.
I can't explain this to myself since there is no special or weird scripts in there.
frigid estuary
those are all independent objects which are no children to any other objects
myroom_v4 is the mesh of the whole room
near escarp
are you using mesh colliders on everything ?
frigid estuary
So I have to point out one thing: This is a scaled up version of an older world, it's basically a giant version of it. I was using it before with this amount of mesh colliding.
The other world exists and is working still.
mesh collider is on everything yes, but the vertex count isn't as high as you would expect, it's usually very high fps
bold ibex
if the whole photogrammetry scene has a mesh collider it's very easy you're stuck in the super complex mesh collider
it's better to make a simple version of the scene with box colliders for colliders so unity can move along the surfaces smoothly
frigid estuary
it's not the problem, I've tried before with what you are suggesting
bold ibex
it's very easy to get completely stuck inside them
frigid estuary
and as said, there is another world with the same mesh, working perfectly fine. Here I have only scaled everything and added some rigidbodies
bold ibex
(mesh colliders of scanned objects)
frigid estuary
it's the exact same object at another scale
near escarp
in that case there's no real reason for this issue to exist
bold ibex
it's really better to always avoid mesh colliders
near escarp
maybe a player controller in your scene ?
if you can't solve it then try remaking it in a clean project
bold ibex
if you want to check if it's the collider causing it, turn it off and only add a plane collider as floor and see if you can move around
if you're still stuck it's something else yeah
frigid estuary
so i made a copy of the scene
there's nothing in it anymore. only a cube and a VRCWorld typical object
it is still happening
if found out what it was. The world was very far down below 0 on the y axis, thus making the player respawn constantly because of the world limit
royal shell
I managed to make my checkpoint detector and respawn 💪 💪 💪
It shouldn't be a problem that I created 1 layer for each checkpoint, right? theres no limit for how many layers you can make, right? 😰
cedar nebula
not sure if you're just joking but just in case, you only have 10 custom layers to work with. I don't think you'll ever end up using all 10 though unless you're using some wonky prefabs like Archery
balmy gate
@royal shell and you know about the combination of Player Tracker prefab from toybox and the standard asset "Follow Target" which you can assign the "PlayerHandle" game object in the slot and put a Y offset like 1000, 2000, 3000 etc
and that way each Y value can have its own set of checkpoints and be used as like another type of layer
though maybe values like 100 are better because if you make them too big you get floating point error (rounding error)
misty sable
What can i use to make an underwater texture? so it looks like your underwater
left marlin
To give more description on what Lyuma is talking about, here is the wiki page on detecting objects:
http://vrchat.wikidot.com/worlds:guides:object-detection
cedar nebula
@misty sable easiest method would be to use Post Processing v2 and make a volume for being underwater that makes your screen blue and maybe add some short depth of field so everything is slightly blurry to sell that underwater effect. If you haven't used it before here's a great guide https://gitlab.com/s-ilent/SCSS/-/wiki_pages/Other/Post-Processing
misty sable
thanks appreciate it
pallid jolt
I (and many others) would recommend avoiding DoF. It has a tendency to induce nausea in VR. I've experience with this personally. Went to a world where you could go in the ocean and when everything goes blurry, I start to feel sick. I advise sticking to color grading for your underwater post processing.
tacit radish
Does anyone know how to make a flag in a world?
sacred warren
Pole + subdivided rectangle + cloth physics = flag.
tacit radish
Can you please be more specific.
bronze smelt
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=45n7_xboZJU
You should be able to make it based on this. Just beware that cloth is using CPU, so will affect performance if there is too much happening
tacit radish
Alright thanks.
bold ibex
Hello, does anybody know how stickers from VRChat Hub work?
sacred warren
So, there's a bug with emissions not baking into lightmaps when using the inbuilt light rendering systems. Does anyone know how to get them to work properly?
jovial charm
Anyone know what could cause a world to take awhile to initialize in vrchat? Trying to hunt down what it could be
Was fine until I added a video player and a chandelier so I tried deleting those and clearing any dynamic materials/prefabs but that didnt fix it
ashen robin
U.S. VR World/Environment Creators Needed ~ Paid ($400) Bulletin Board Research ~ I am not a bot! DM if interested
bold ibex
@ashen robin but you are fake...
ashen robin
Nope real recruiter!
rain shadow
@sacred warren Don't bother with emissive materials if you are using progressive lightmapper
Barely works
sacred warren
ButWhyThough.gif
rain shadow
Because it would be too easy if it just worked™
drowsy rampart
hey, so i uploaded my world and i can see it on the website but i cant go into it from eather the website or the game itself when i try lauch tge game from the website it sends me to the place that is my home and when i go onto the game i cant see it annywhere
rain shadow
what version of unity do you have
drowsy rampart
2017.4.33f1
sacred warren
That's why, wrong version.
Well, that may be why, but yeah - https://docs.vrchat.com/docs/setting-up-the-sdk
drowsy rampart
but when i looked on unity hub it dident have the version it said i needed so i got the closest one to it
sacred warren
You need to grab it from the Unity site
left marlin
@jovial charm initializing world is usually the time for decompressing textures and audio. If you have large audio files, it might take time. I haven’t looked into other reasons but network sync might be related.
drowsy rampart
oke its still not working eventho im on the right version
left marlin
Check the vrchat console or output log after enter/exiting your world. It will tell you the reason
!outputlog
tawny lilyBOT
You can find your output log at C:\Users\%Username%\AppData\LocalLow\VRChat\vrchat named output_log.txt
drowsy rampart
well its a verry long list with alot of errors
but when i played the test mode it worked so idk why it would have so manny problems when i upload it
jovial charm
Alright ik I compressed my textures could that be some of the reason, cause I have no audio, other then for a video screen @left marlin
rain shadow
@drowsy rampart if you have errors its probably not building and updating your world file properly
can you click the play button at the top of the unity editor?
drowsy rampart
@rain shadow i can but it doosnt realy do annything
rain shadow
does it bring up a message saying something about errors?
drowsy rampart
no
rain shadow
so it does go into play mode?
drowsy rampart
yea
altho when i go to build tab it gives me an error saying couldnt load world also when i build and test it it says that eventho im abe to play it normaly
rain shadow
So some things you could try - Make sure your vrcworld component has a collider under it where the player can stand when they load in
and on the vrcworld object find the button that says detach and click it
then try uploading again
also double checking which unity version does it say in the top of the window?
drowsy rampart
well i just clicked on vrc world and saw this
rain shadow
dont need to worry about that
drowsy rampart
oke and when i say a collider do u mean like a mesh colider?
drowsy rampart
oke and i cant find the button u said is suposed to say detach
rain shadow
there should be a component on the vrcworld that is called pipeline manager
drowsy rampart
oh oke i found it ill try uploading it again now
thank u so far tho
nicee it worked! thanks so much
left marlin
Delete your script there or add
#if UNITY_EDITOR
At the top and
#endif
At the bottom.
left thistle
sorry i am sort of new to coding too, how do i do that?
rain shadow
delete the object2terrain script
left thistle
kk
rain shadow
search for it and then delete
vocal schooner
i dont understand this, i want to make a trigger zone that teleports the player, but its just does nothing
did both, onentercollider and onentertrigger
both didnt teleported me
balmy gate
to detect players, change Layers to say "PlayerLocal"
default will detect when some world object that's not a pickup goes into the collider
which will almost never happen especially since that object would have to have a rigid body on it
vocal schooner
this?
balmy gate
in the trigger
vocal schooner
oooooh
balmy gate
under Delay in Seconds
actually not sure if the unity game object layer you circled matters
vocal schooner
on enter collider is the correct trigger?
balmy gate
um I think players have an actual collider
OnEnterTrigger is for colliders with "Is Trigger" checked
might also detect players, not sure
balmy gate
wait another important point, set the layer of the game object with the BoxCollider on it to MirrorReflection
because any other layer will break the user clicking on buttons while inside it
I think that's how you do it at least
vocal schooner
in the trigger zone are no buttons
and there are no buttons anywhere near that trigegr zone
balmy gate
sure, but if you ever added one they would break inside
also breaks the handheld Photo / Stream Camera
vocal schooner
ooooh
balmy gate
so still a good idea to use MirrorReflection in case people want to take photos
vocal schooner
uhm
balmy gate
super weird poorly documented knowledge, just something I have heard...haven't tested it myself
vocal schooner
but they cant take photos in that trigger, because they will get teleported once they enter it
rain shadow
You the trigger as OnEnterCollider
but your box collider is set as trigger
change your trigger from OnEnterCollider to Trigger
balmy gate
oh so you have to use OnEnterTrigger in that case sorry
frigid estuary
I want to make a chair you can also grab. How do I do it?
Seen it in other worlds, but simply making a chair with rigidbody and grab makes them destroy after having the world uploaded.
Object has another object as child. Child has the chair objects in it and the Station and so on.
Parent has the rigidbody and pickup in it.
rain shadow
I would guess that it doesn't have a collider and is just falling through the world and being destroyed at the respawn height
On the VRCWorld component theres an option to change the behavior to respawn instead of destroy
frigid estuary
@rain shadow OH, you were right :'D
dawn kestrel
i havent done any world/avatar developing/editing in like a year so i kinda forgot how to added mesh based collision boxes on objects in unity, how do i do this?
im trying to touch up and finish a world i made last year but never finished, and the chairs for some reason when i or others sit in them are halfway through the chair so i want to add mesh collision to the seat so that doesnt happen
dawn kestrel
chairs u click on and can sit in
rain shadow
On the chair there should be an enter point object
dawn kestrel
i can screenshot if need be
rain shadow
just need to move that up
dawn kestrel
learning new things everyday Lulz, even tho i worked on and retexture stuff alot last year i still was pretty new to the advanced stuff
so where should i position it?
rain shadow
well kind of have to guess
move it up an amount that you would think make it so the issue of being halfway in the chair no longer happens
dawn kestrel
ok thanks
random owl
So suddenly my world started doing this to anyone leaving it 100% the time. Everything else is fine afterwards even the loading screen works after you leave the next world.
Anyone have any idea how to solve this? 😅
Tried with 4 different people leaving my world happens 100% of the time
rain shadow
I can only think that you might be doing something weird with your skybox/lighting tab?
rain shadow
Only odd thing there really is lightmap count
random owl
Oh that's because of lods on objects
Objects with lods make their own small lightmaps
rain shadow
Would probably just need to test a bunch of stuff to actually find out whats causing it
rain shadow
Could try change the skybox to the default one
random owl
I'll just delete it because my world doesn't have a skybox
rain shadow
and in the bakery tab hit the bottom button that says update skybox probe
random owl
I'll just set it to none
It's technically all inside so I'll try if this does anything setting it to none
Oh that actually might have worked
Let's see if I upload the world if it still works
@rain shadow that actually worked thanks dude wouldn't have figured it that fast without you 👍
rain shadow
So what was it? skybox or bakery skybox probe update?
random owl
Just removing the skybox completely worked
rain shadow
Good to know that the bakery skybox causes that issue
incase you would ever want to hit people with a wall of pink for trying to leave your world
random owl
Yeah 😅
left marlin
It seems to be resolved, but using bakery will somehow keep your skybox when exiting. It was really interesting when this was first discovered. It was never the missing shader color, but just some random skybox.
random owl
Most likely because my skybox was just empty one so it didn't have anything to replace or something ^^
dawn kestrel
so i just updated some stuff in my world and uploaded it but ingame the updates arent showing at all, why is this do private worlds/non public worlds now go through a process instead of updating winthin a minute? since last year whenever i updated my worlds or avatars by the time vrchat loaded up everything would be updated
cedar nebula
check your unity console for errors, most likely a bad script prevented the world from uploading correctly. If you recently installed post processing v2, delete the Tests folder
dawn kestrel
i havent used unity in "roughly" a year
so everything is technically in fully functional order have a few false positives mostly due to the sdk being auto updated for some reason when i loaded it up earlier (cause for some reason i had to re-sign in to unity and re-register my computer to my account
cedar nebula
are you using the right Unity version then? We're on 2017.4.28f1 now
dawn kestrel
it seems for some reason when it auto updated it went to version 2018.6.21.13.02
is there any way to disable the sdk auto updates as i dont want to risk breaking all my other 30+ avatar & worldprojects
i still use the 2016 sdk for my avatars as when i used the 2017 ones last year it broke most of my avatar projects and i had to start over on alot of them
left marlin
The sdk shouldn’t auto update.
modern kayak
And to be clear, unity and vrchat sdk have very similar naming schemes based on the year, but while you are supposed to use a specific "old" version of unity (2017.4.28f1) you should be using the most up to date vrchat sdk. If you are actually using an sdk from 2016 or 2017, it is very out of date. Make sure to follow the proper procedure when changing vrchat sdk, which is closing unity, deleting sdk from your project, opening unity, and reimporting the new sdk. If you keep unity open while deleting or if you just import the new right on top of the old, things will break
dawn kestrel
before it broke no matter how i removed the old sdks thats why i always stayed with (i mightve said the wrong sdk version that i used i think not sure) i need to find my old working sdk
dawn kestrel
sadly removing the current sdk i had installed removed alot of the important world objects like floors/walls/ceilings video players and the like, after importing a working sdk i got walls and video player back but they all default and no idea what settings i had used before
chilly venture
So, i made a world public by pressing the community labs button on the website. I want to make updates on it, but when I go to publish the world from unity I see the community labs button there. Im afraid if I publish it will make the world private again.
cedar nebula
no it's good, you can make updates and it won't be made un-public
modern kayak
@dawn kestrel Never ever ever click "apply prefab" on a prefab that was imported from a package.
The changes you make to a prefab are stored in the scene, it will keep track of it. But as soon as you apply prefab, it will stop keeping track of those changes in the scene becaue it will save those changes to the prefab. Then when you delete the package, it deletes your changes
dawn kestrel
i havent seen a apply prefab button before
unique iron
What setting on an object would enable it to stay where the player puts it? (Like cigarettes, or costumes at the VRC Hub)
Does that have to do with the player tracking prefab?
cedar nebula
Yeah that uses player tracking. It's a bit complicated to setup though, you basically have to have it so when you use the pickup it reparents to the player's head. You have to use UI button shenanigans for that
unique iron
ohh okay. meh! Nevermind that.
cedar nebula
for a lot of objects at once, put them all under one parent object and give that an animator with one animation that sets the position and rotation of every object. Have the animator component be off by default and then to reset everything just enable it for a second and then disable it again. The animation will force all of the objects to go to their animation position
frigid estuary
oh, I was thinking about rigidbody objects. I found out now, but thanks for the help.
cedar nebula
Yeah this still works with rigidbodies. I'm sure some people would disagree with this method but if it's a lot of objects then it's just a lot less hassle, compared to having to setup trigger systems to teleport everything back for each individual object
tacit radish
How do you make it were if you drop an item it respawns to its original place?
rain shadow
Easiest way to respawn objects with a trigger is to just have one trigger that teleports all the objects into the respawn height under the map
@tacit radish and you could use that same method on all your pickups, just have an OnDrop condition trigger that teleports that object to a point under the map
Just make sure you have object behavior at respawn height on the vrcworld as respawn instead of destroy
rain shadow
If your pickup has the object sync component on it the vrc trigger will show the methods you can use on it
under the events from scene you should see your pickups
You could also just set the trigger to SendRPC and do it like this
tacit radish
Alright thank you.
raw vessel
hi there
is there a way in unity to turn on something so i can see what object,shader and particle causing lags i mean fps drops ?
raw vessel
roger that
sacred warren
Ok so I've had people tell me they can't see the labels on the buttons in my world, but they appear fine for me. Has anyone experienced this before?
dusty fjord
Hey, has anyone got an idea on how to load a video from a list dynamically rather than pre-loading the entire list of videos when you join a world. I'd also like the buffer to be cleared so when new people join they don't download all of the previous videos.
rain shadow
@sacred warren is it desktop users that cant see the labels or is it everyone but you?
sacred warren
One guy I was speaking to was on an original Rift.
rain shadow
and @dusty fjord Yeah you can do that pretty easily but also having video urls loaded isnt the same as downloading them
How are the buttons setup?
dusty fjord
@rain shadow currently i've got a video player with 200+ videos and 200 buttons that play the video player at a specific index
rain shadow
And they're all listed under the video player component?
dusty fjord
yep
rain shadow
could use this method
but you would need to make a trigger like that for each video url
dusty fjord
so on every button, clear the video player and add the url?
what about playing it? will it auto-play?
rain shadow
You would probably need to manually play it after the url gets added
dusty fjord
i've seen a couple of worlds that have a loading bar and they play it when it's ready, how is that possible?
rain shadow
Triggers an animation when you enter the url
used as an offset for when it tells the video player to play
because if you do it too soon after adding a url it will interrupt the url loading
dusty fjord
but the animation is of different lengths depending on the video
it somehow knows when it's ready to play
rain shadow
It knows when the video plays
dusty fjord
how? sorry if that's a dumb question but I couldn't figure that out
rain shadow
are you talking about this one
dusty fjord
yeah one like that
but I don't want custom url input, I want to select buttons that play specific videos
rain shadow
Its all just animations
dusty fjord
okay
and how does the animation know when to play? or is it the same time each time you add a video
rain shadow
The animation is 5 seconds long on this one
at the end of the animation it activates a trigger that plays the video
and in my example above with the trigger that would let you make buttons that play specific videos
dusty fjord
okay.. hmm so what's the easiest way to play based on a 10 second timer?
also is this fine for the video player ? i've removed all of the videos
or should it not play OnNetworkReady?
dawn kestrel
for some reason im not able to change this no idea why.
how do i change it?
im wanting to change Green_Board_Dif to Green_Board_Dif4
dusty fjord
@rain shadow cheers, that's what I was thinking 👍
is the play onnetworkready okay on the video player?
and i'm having a problem where the url field on the AddURL rpc is not saving the url
rain shadow
If you have your on play method is not really needed
dusty fjord
everytime I press enter, it clears
rain shadow
thats strange
@dawn kestrel What kind of game object is that?
Or whats the imported file type
dawn kestrel
its reimported due to the update and watnot
rain shadow
is that object in your scene?
dawn kestrel
its a posterboard or atleast thats what i been using it for i have several of them but wanting them different so that way they dont all have same image on them
dusty fjord
btw, if it takes longer than 5 seconds to download for some people, will it still play?
rain shadow
I personally use 6 seconds delay and have never had any issues
dawn kestrel
here is screenshot of the items in the asset list
rain shadow
But can you drag them into your scene and edit them?
dawn kestrel
oof ok so that why it wasnt working i was doing it wrong Lulz thanx 🙂
dusty fjord
@rain shadow for the play trigger, are the targets set up properly?
rain shadow
Change target to owner
dusty fjord
cool, and for the video trigger. your screenshot is MasterUnbuffered, but what if I want anyone to be able to set the video. is alwaysunbuffered okay? and what about the targets
rain shadow
They both should be set to owner
that means the the person who has ownership of the video player will execute the trigger
rain shadow
the target for both should be owner
and have the trigger itself set to alwaysunbuffered
Its not the best way of doing it and I'm not 100% sure if it will work properly but it should be fine
dusty fjord
ok - so this is the button setup (both actions are set to owner)
and the play trigger
rain shadow
Yeah would just have to test really
I've never used a setup like that but I'd imagine it should work
dusty fjord
cool, i'll test that, ty
raw vessel
hey @sacred warren
if you didn't you can try to put on those labels component "object sync" and i think they shod see it as you do
good luck
dusty fjord
that works @rain shadow but if I rejoin the world, I get a bunch of youtube-dl processes spinning up for the videos that were pressed before I joined
dusty fjord
yeah if I leave the world with someone else there and come back
rain shadow
both on the updated version?
rain shadow
So are the previous videos actually loading?
dusty fjord
yeah it skips through them all I think
rain shadow
World id?
dusty fjord
wrld_1fc30b59-c70e-4502-b843-a8782c4baf31
sacred warren
@raw vessel Is that normally needed for the VRC_Trigger labels?
rain shadow
@dusty fjord Can you check your output log because it shouldn't be loading more than one
might not even need to
Pretty sure its working fine
dusty fjord
i'll check the log
but it definitely had loads of youtube-dl processes from the button presses before my rejoin
rain shadow
@sacred warren If its the vrchat interact text having issues its probably not something you can fix
It could be that something is rendering over it but if only some people are having the issue thats probably not the reason
also @dusty fjord if it wasnt the first world you joined into you may have been seeing the processes lingering from a different world
dusty fjord
it was the first world
rain shadow
How many processes did you see show up?
dusty fjord
they kept finishing, but in total i'd say around ~20, and that's because i rejoined after 1 minute and told the other guy to click through the buttons while i am away
rain shadow
Add a next or previous function to the video player and see if its actually clearing them properly
if it does work clicking next will just restart the current video
dusty fjord
alright
I assume it is, as i changed the play trigger to playatindex 0
does the video player need to be disabled and re-enabled to clear properly?
rain shadow
no
dusty fjord
okay
yep, previous and next just restart the current video
@rain shadow so I restarted VRChat, opened a new portal for the other guy to go through and click some videos, I joined after 1 min and had the processes load up
balmy gate
@dusty fjord you should be able to make all the rpcs local
Since SyncVideo stuff handle their own syncing
dusty fjord
so change all the video buttons to local? @balmy gate
instead of AlwaysUnbuffered
and what about the custom play trigger?
balmy gate
Play might need alwaysunbuffered not sure
rain shadow
If its local only the owner of the video player object will be able to trigger the functions on it
dusty fjord
so it's set to AlwaysUnbuffered but for some reason the logs show AlwaysBufferOne
balmy gate
Fair enough, you're using broadcasting to tell the owner to add the videos
rain shadow
The playlist is a separate function that VRChat handles
balmy gate
Yeah an always buffer one will kill you
Oh btw do not ever select multiple game objects in the unity scene
rain shadow
The AlwaysBufferOne thing you are seeing is VRChat handling the video playlist
balmy gate
The instant you multi select objects with triggers it will change their broadcast type to the same
dusty fjord
I only duplicated the buttons
the original button was set to alwaysunbuffered
button trigger
play trigger
balmy gate
Can you change the target of the AddURL rpc to local?
dusty fjord
sure i'll try that
balmy gate
Right now possibly you're telling everyone to add a video and everyone then tells the owner to add it.
rain shadow
Local should still work if you are the owner or in your case the master of the instance
balmy gate
Another idea is make all your buttons local and all rpc targets local, then add sendrpc TakeOwnership at the beginning before the clear
So basically anyone who clicks a button takes ownership before clearing
TakeOwnership rpc must Target all I think
dusty fjord
what about setting this checkbox?
balmy gate
Oh yeah then you don't need to do your own TakeOwnership
Try it
And make it all local
dusty fjord
@balmy gate will setting the rpc targets to local work? I thought video player stuff only works on the owner of the room
oh nvm, take ownership of action targets
so you become to owner of the video player?
dusty fjord
is the play trigger fine as it is?
balmy gate
Maybe? My philosophy is local everything, only use non local if absolutely necessary
rain shadow
If the takeownership works properly it should be fine having play as local also
dusty fjord
so I should try this too?
balmy gate
Also dynamically adding videos: really simple. Make UI -> text input field. In On End Edit(), add 3 actions;
onehas a vrc trigger and ExecuteCustomTrigger which does Stop, Clear and take ownership of action targets
Next is vrc_SyncVideoPlayer -> AddURL (dynamic string)
Finally Your ExecuteCustomTrigger Play
So you'd need a new custom trigger just for the stop and clear bits
dusty fjord
I want buttons with preset links rather than custom url entry
so with the takeownership method only the master can change the videos
and the youtube-dl processes all spun up, but they disapperared very quickly
because there were only 5 button presses before I rejoined
tested it again after a few mins of the other guy pressing buttons, had about 30-40 processes, and it went through them before the video started playing
rain shadow
I'll do some testing in a awhile to see if theres anyway to prevent that
Doesn't seem like that should be happening
oh actually @dusty fjord when you click the videos do you wait for the video to load before clicking the next one?
or to start playing I mean
dusty fjord
yep
balmy gate
Did you try stop before clear?
The only thing I can think is somehow your triggers are being buffered...and maybe if you used UI Buttons instead to add the url it wouldn't be possible to buffer them because they aren't added by vrc triggers
Just theorizing based on the fact that all widely used video players have control panels using ui buttons
And you can still have hardcoded urls, just put AddURL and type in a url into the button
Though you would need to do the TakeOwnership bit then. Sounds like a lot of work. Maybe someone else knows more why this happens.
Would be so nice to fix that spam when you join
rain shadow
From doing a little testing I don't actually think theres a way around it trying to preload unused urls
dusty fjord
😦
rain shadow
Maybe it would stop doing it if you spawned and deleted a new video prefab each time you selected a url
dusty fjord
yeah I think that's the way it's supposed to work.. I checked out the prefab used in room of the rain
and I think that's what the prefab does
rain shadow
thats not what its doing
When it says delete its a little misleading
Yeah I think doing that would make it worse
I assume whats happening though is that they have it setup so the videoplayer auto buffers urls for late joiners but each url remains buffered for late joiners even though they aren't being used in the active world instance
dark ermine
Hello, I've this error. I've already fixed that by the past but I don't remember. Please, help me 
rain shadow
Can you hit the play button at the top of the unity editor?
dark ermine
Yes
rain shadow
no errors?
dark ermine
My map is working
rain shadow
Sdk version?
rain shadow
Any errors in console?
left marlin
Make a new build and check the console for errors. Usually a script couldn't compile or an asset is bad and it will prevent the entire build.
dark ermine
No error pop up, I gonna reboot my Unity wait
rain shadow
@left marlin Do you know how events are buffered?
left marlin
Uh, what do you mean by how they are buffered? Do you have a specific question?
rain shadow
Is the buffered event data stored on the masters client and then sent to late joiners?
left marlin
I'm going to say yes, but I have never tested it. I only assume so since recently I have seen master clients lag out whenever anyone joins and then after some time they recover. Also there was a statement in the log a while ago that said "Master client unresponsive" and wouldn't let you enter the world.
rain shadow
Assumed thats how it might work
Having the ability to clear or manage buffered events would be nice
left marlin
Yes, but you can get around it by using AlwaysBufferOne and having one for doing the action and another for undoing the action.
rain shadow
And only the second one remains buffered?
left marlin
That doesn't exactly work for things like video players though...
Both will be buffered, but the second one should do the exact opposite of the first so the results will cancel each other out
Always Buffer One need to be very exact and explicit to be used properly. If they are explicit, then the action can also be undone.
tacit radish
@rain shadow The teleporting the object didn't work is there anything else i can do?
rain shadow
How did you have it setup?
tacit radish
Hold on.
rain shadow
just tried it and it works perfectly for me
left marlin
Just scrolled up, was the suggestion TeleportTo? Using it can be buggy at times
left marlin
Buggy based on if you are still working in the scene
If you ever move the destination object (parent structure, not sure if position/rotation breaks it) it will fail.
tacit radish
left marlin
Pretty sure that will fail if the instigator isn't the owner
rain shadow
Picking it up doesn't make that person the owner?
left marlin
Didn't see the on drop part
tacit radish
But will it respawn for everyone?
rain shadow
Doing it like this makes it so you dont have to animate positions for every object you want to have this behavior
yes because of the object sync
tacit radish
Alright.
left marlin
The new sdk has Respawn as an option now
balmy gate
You should be on the sdk from September. that is the newest
rain shadow
oh it does
balmy gate
2019.09.18
left marlin
While this works for one object, I don't recommend using teleportTo to an object under the void for a large group of objects.
rain shadow
I have seen some worlds with a lot of game objects that do that and the entire instance stops for awhile
tacit radish
I have that SDK already how do i set up the respawn event?
rain shadow
Doesn't need one
its basically the same thing without the extra teleport step
since you can just tell the game object to respawn directly now
no reason to use the other method
left marlin
For the mass teleport to the void, it has the potential to kill the instance due to all the physic objects being at the same location. This can cause the always grab indicator and make it impossible to interact with things
rain shadow
Seems like there would be no need to ever do that anymore though
tacit radish
Didn't work i don't know what to do.
rain shadow
screenshot the vrc trigger?
also your OnDrop trigger must be on the object that the pickup script is on
tacit radish
rain shadow
Does the game object have all the other components on it like my example?
tacit radish
Yes.
rain shadow
screenshot?