world-development

[balmy gate]

It's stupid that one interface has one set of buttons and the other has a different set and there is almost no overlap

Like why doesn't content manager have the publish button . This despite both a web and a sdk redesign. They both use the same api

[solid helm]

They're probably waiting for someone to make a Canny about it before they can work on it

[split seal]

I'm having an issue when I want to build and publish my test version of the world I'm making, it's the first time it pops up and whatever i tried it didn't work, anyone has an idea ?

I've tried testing it, but whenever I do it as soon as it boot up the game instead of putting me in the test world it just puts me home

and like, the world is already online and working fine, the only changes I did was adding a missing piece of Collision, replaced some PP values, and add a UI

But now nothing works 🤷

[random owl]

It looks like it's trying to upload the last build scene, there used to be a checkbox for that in the UI but can't remember if the new ui has it

[split seal]

I've been searching for it, But impossible

[random owl]

Oh no wait not a checkbox the old ui had buttons Last build and New Build

[split seal]

I've tried the test run but it doesn't work

[random owl]

Can you post a bigger screenshot of the upload window

The whole thing

[split seal]

The usual with the normal World ID

With generating a new world ID

[random owl]

You might wanna try reinstalling the vrc sdk and see if that helps

[split seal]

Hecc

Nope Didn't change a thing

[random owl]

Hmm sadly can't help much more than that rn since I'm not on a computer

[split seal]

That's cool don't worry, I'll probably just upload it completly on the Regular World ID, but if it breaks it'll be a pain to go back that's it

Huh, ... So now even when I want to upload it on the normal World ID, It doesn't work anymore ... I guess I broke something

That test button that doesn't work triggers me so much, and if I just look at the console it seems that it doens't work because the response of my Client is Null

[random owl]

I did just notice that warning in the bottom of your unity

Might wanna check console to see if there's any more

[split seal]

Yeah the error is basic, Just post Processing not being able to reach for the Framework API

But it usually uploaded it anyway

then the rest of the errors are the usual VRC SDK being the VRC SDK

and then the debug saying the response of the client is Null

Then entire console notifications

I know

But since it doens't do error on normal runtime

it doens't pause

It's like, an SDK error

but it's not

and it's weird

Like, The scene works well, and the UI aswell

I've imported the scene in a test VR app

and it works perfectly

But the upload fail for VRC

[frail aurora]

Script error

[split seal]

Yes, and it's the PP stack that does it

Look I'll screen cap what unity stops on

It shouldn't

and yet it does

Only when I try to upload the world

[frail aurora]

Did you try commenting it out just as a test?

[bold ibex]

great thing about assemblies like that

if they're greyed out, they arent being used in the script at all

[supple drift]

do you have the tests folder still in your project? you gotta remove it! (check the pinned messages)

[frail aurora]

Looks like it

[split seal]

The test builds never worked for me

so I don't have any

[supple drift]

I mean the Test folder within the post processing folder - it has scripts or references in it that cause build issues!

looks like it's present from your console

[split seal]

Okay

You got me

I didn't see it was from that test folder

Now everything seems to work as usual again

[frail aurora]

Yeppo :3

[supple drift]

It's alright, it's pretty much an evil folder here at this point

[split seal]

And on my side I guess I'll just read more

and pay attention to smol detail

[split seal]

😂 😂

[bold ibex]

omfg

[split seal]

Totally

[bold ibex]

folder boi for sure

Gotta love how useful, and also how vague the console is in unity...

Gotta have an experienced eye to understand what the hell its trying to tell you

[frail aurora]

Usually errors tell you where the find the problem, in this case in PostProcessing-2/Tests it's just like folders on your computer in how they're structured. So if you get another one, you can know what particular asset (or script) is causing problems.

[bold ibex]

yee

[frail aurora]

Just look out for the great big red exclamation mark sign xD

[bold ibex]

good ol compiler error sign

if its big and red it means ya dont get to move forward

if its yellow

then you should probably look at it, but its also KINDA fine to ignore it

[weak raven]

aight can't figure out why it's popping this error code up...

[weak raven]

almost all those errors are due to things that don't have a variable inside the VRCSDK

can test.
can not upload.

[near escarp]

Detatch the world ID, and possibly reimport the SDK correctly

[bold ibex]

Hello

I wanted to publish a world

But i have that

Even with a new project new scene ect..

When I test the world, i'm in the VRC Home :/

[balmy gate]

Do you have post processing in your world? Did you make sure to delete the Tests folder?

Can you check console panel for red errors?

[rain badger]

i wanna add options so u can turn thing on and off. or change the settings. like other worlds do with post processinng [Worlds Like Home of dreams] does anybody know how?

[near escarp]

OnInteract triggers buttons with toggle

[rain badger]

i know that part. but i dont know how to toggle stuff with post processing. like turning certain thing off or on. and changing its value. like very high bloom or very little

[misty shoal]

I'm not getting a test folder but I am getting the same error that's been floating around, "last built scene cannot be found" etc
I can't make any sense of the errors in console or what I'm supposed to do.

[balmy gate]

Turn off clear on play. Clear the console. Change something in your scene. Like rename anything or move an object over a tiny bit

Detach the pipeline in the pipeline manager on your vrc scene object

Them try doing new build

And if you see anything red other than "VRCGlobalRoot is not defined" (this error is normal) then that is your problem

Look for the first couple red errors and paste or screenshot them if you are unsure

Also does your world use Post Processing? Yes or no @misty shoal

So you have the same error as @bold ibex ?

Also to ask: which unity version do you have? And which sdk version

[misty shoal]

No post processing
same error
unity 2017.4.28f1, the sdk from June
I'm getting this now, same as before, I just don't know what it means

[balmy gate]

Try deleting SampleScenes in assets unless you are using those

Those sample scenes are incompatible with your unity version, vrchat or both

You probably only need to delete scripts (.cs files) in SampleScenes @misty shoal

Oh also you should have Standard Assets in your project. It is required for a lot of prefabs and can help make your life easier. "Standard assets" can either be all the things in edit ->import package and do each one or can be downloaded on the asset store

That might possibly also fix the error you have

[misty shoal]

Trying both now, thank you

Looks like it's good, I don't want to publish it just yet because I'm not done but it also wasn't updating the test world, which it's doing now. Thanks again for the help!

[bold ibex]

@balmy gate I didn’t had the great Unity version so... i will test tomorrow

[royal canyon]

@rain badger you'll need Post Processing Volume slider

[rain badger]

Post processing volume sliders?

iv got something like this set up

but i dont know how to actually connect it to control the post processing stuff

[lost breach]

Is there any way to add a "skip forward 5s" button to a VideoSyncPlayer ?

oh can only stream player handle that

[flat dagger]

Evnin all. I've been noodling with a lil world for a while now, and just yesterday I started seeing this weird artifact in the baked shadows.

From what research I've been able to do, it seems to be a bug in this version of Unity's GI baker and I just have to keep tweaking settings until it magically goes away. However, with a full bake taking 45+ min, that's kinda painful

I'm hoping someone here has hit this before and know's where to focus my attentions

[ancient pecan]

My world has quite a few lights, more than the default maximum. How do I get around this?

And please don't say I have to bake them

[flat dagger]

Sorry

[ancient pecan]

I swear if I have to wait the 3 hours

[flat dagger]

That's kinda what uya gotta do

[ancient pecan]

and it doesn't end up looking good

[flat dagger]

Unless they HAVE to be realtime shadows, ya gotta bake

[ancient pecan]

and I have to do it agian

fck

[flat dagger]

Trust me, I'm in that same hell right now

[ancient pecan]

Is there a way to bake the lighting as it is without all the fancy ray tracing?

[bronze smelt]

You don't need to wait 3 hours to bake if you change the settings for the lighting in the project and on your assets

[ancient pecan]

OK for some reason it isn't taking 3 hours now

How do I know it's baked, and what do I do after that? Can I just upload the world and it will include that?

[bronze smelt]

The bottom right progress bar will be gone and you will have a folder with the scene name

that has the bake data in it

[ancient pecan]

god why is unity lighting so weird and complicated

light probes and global illumination and mixed lights and reeee

just let me use 40 real time lights

cant be that hard can it /s

[fervent scarab]

question about world making: Here is an example that was posted in this chat yesterday. It really opened my eyes to how modular i have to approach making the worlds. and how much data that can save.

SO MY QUESTION:
With indiviual pieces, like this, would I have to put all their transforms at world 0 before export then re-assemble them into the building within unity? I find that if i export my level as a whole, the inidvidual parts have their origin point be offset to the actual geometery peice

how do I manage that so no seams are visible? I've litterally never really environments before, my entire career has been character rigging and animating.

[flat dagger]

freezing transforms on all the individual pieces to 0 is one way to handle this as long as you aren't repeating any pieces

What I do is make my set pieces and place the origin at a corner

Then I can use grid snap to accurately place them

[fervent scarab]

freezing transforms in unity or in my modeling program?

[flat dagger]

Before export in the app.

[fervent scarab]

ah! thats the missing peice cool, export format?

[flat dagger]

If you want all the pieces to import into the right exact place automgically, then thats how

FBX is the go to

[fervent scarab]

k, i was using .obj for environments because i know Darn Hyena was compaining that his .fbx was having difficulty culling properly

[flat dagger]

Well, culling is in the geo. The format is really just a wrapper. It doesn't change the data

[fervent scarab]

next question, if I scale in unity after import. is that going to screw things up with culling and lightmap baking?

[flat dagger]

I don't see why it would

Baked lighting is all based in UVs

And culling is controlled either by volumes or layers

[fervent scarab]

ok, cause for my map im not really measuring things out and paying attention to units. Im eyeballing things mostly and it's giving me more an organic feel to my map

[flat dagger]

Usually you get your scene laid out the way you want before lighting anyways

Since baking only works on static objects

So you want to make sure auto-bake is off until you have everything just where you want it to stay

[fervent scarab]

🤔 I should probably greybox most of it though

[flat dagger]

That's never a bad idea

Can save you time in the long run

[fervent scarab]

but yes, freeze transforms that was the info i was missing. thanks!

[flat dagger]

Cheers and good luck!

[green lagoon]

yes you should actually gray box it out and pay attention to units so your pieces fit together

http://wiki.polycount.com/wiki/Modular_environments

https://youtu.be/IziIY674NAw

also trim sheets are very helpful when you're doing modular environments so that you can get most of your kit down to like 2 or 3 materials

as you basically build out of tiling textures or trim sheets

[ancient pecan]

So I'm using the post processing stack, and in vr each screen gets kinda split into 2

Is there a certain effect that causes this?

[supple drift]

Anti-aliasing is the usual culprit

[ancient pecan]

Dang, it made it look so much better :( sad to see it go

Thanks

[stone hollow]

It's expensive anyway

[cedar nebula]

vrchat already has anti-aliasing, you don't need more on top of that

[stone hollow]

Do we know what aa type vrc used?

[supple drift]

MSAA i believe

[cedar nebula]

sounds right

[solid helm]

Yeah, it's MSAA

[ancient pecan]

Made my first world in a long time, it's funny how much of a better job I did now that I know a lot more about unity and blender

It feels nice because I'm proud of my work but also kinda sad because I know no one is gonna go to it at all

[near escarp]

it's alright, make stuff for yourself first, then you can keep enjoying it, and then you can share them with friends

Also @ancient pecan if you want to show your world to people who like to see them, join the community meetup on Sunday !

Check the pinned message in #events

[ancient pecan]

I'm assuming that no one wants to really go to it, considering the subject matter at hand cough fortnite cough cough. I just tried to recreate an area of the game only seen in a very specific trailer, but also use a ton of new techniques in blender and unity.

[near escarp]

Well, fortnite is much more popular as a theme than 99% of the current existing worlds have, so at least you have that 😄

[open thicket]

how would i go about creating a counter for vrchat? one where i place something into a container and then it counts how many go in the bin?

it would be easy 1 by 1

but i have multiple bottles going into these bins

[royal canyon]

@open thicket check out Smoothie's counter prefab. You'll just have to move the collider into the bin.

[open thicket]

okay let me retry this lol

thanks, i wasn't sure how i could implement the prefab

[royal canyon]

I've used it to make a ball game

[open thicket]

ohhh

yea i have a friend who used it for a basketball hoop

okay lets see

[spring linden]

does someone know what everything can lead to a long blackscreen befor the map can be seen besides long audio files?

[tropic yarrow]

@spring linden meshes with few million polygons, have 10sec black screen before map got unpacked on my full gtasa map, you can also add camera canvas to make blackscreen looks more interesting but only for desktop users

[wary elbow]

is this normal to showing me the "Configure World" even when im upload this world at first time?

cuz im having a trouble with joining the world

i can't even join to my world

it was okay before but it suddenly happened

[frosty bone]

I have strange problem with prefab model. When i rotate it, it will not rotate itself, but it just rotate "inside" the box instead rotate whole thing, causing model will look different. What is missing here?

See here. It wont rotate correct, the box collision seems don't want rotate with pencil?

i just put pickup, sync and box collision on pencil prefab, and see, it wont rotate correctly

it's not first time, some prefab pieces has also same rotate problem.

some are fine, some not.

Second problem: i made box collision box with OnEnterTrigger and OnExitTrigger, and i want use box to activate / disactivate something. But it's not working when i walk through the box. Which layers are needed for detection with local player?

I cannot use Player layer, it will just block me.

[wary elbow]

seems its really hard to understand that picture

[frosty bone]

sec

[wary elbow]

lemme know more information

[frosty bone]

lemme clip it

https://clips.twitch.tv/HappyFilthyLionBCWarrior

I am sure many seen this problem earlier with some prefab items.

[wary elbow]

thats really weird

[frosty bone]

I just throw prefab in world, add pickup / object sync and also box collision so i can grab it. No problem? Not with every prefab.

[wary elbow]

can you send me that prefab?

[frosty bone]

sec

it's free pencil from Unity asset store

[wary elbow]

did you tried any other models?

[frosty bone]

Yes, road props are fine

rotates correctly

[wary elbow]

i mean other pencils

[frosty bone]

No this is only i have

[wary elbow]

lemme try it

[frosty bone]

i delete animation part because it will let it vanish

[wary elbow]

yeah you should

[frosty bone]

other settings are same

so what might reason it wont rotate?

[wary elbow]

im working on it

in somehow, i can't pick up the pencil

just a sec

okay at least in my case, it working so good

im gonna show you a picture

make sure you put the exact properties to your own

[frosty bone]

lemme see

why mesh collider and not box collider?

[wary elbow]

why you put the box collider when you could put the same mesh collider in the same mesh

is any reasons to you have to do that

?

[frosty bone]

so that box collider is problem

[wary elbow]

maybe

[frosty bone]

try it with box, instead of mesh

[wary elbow]

okay

[frosty bone]

then it might go crazy

box is choosen because it uses less data

and less heavy generally

[wary elbow]

im gonna do like this

[frosty bone]

Yap!

i expect it will look crazy

[wary elbow]

i hope so

im sorry but it still working good

[frosty bone]

wow

i go get 2nd world and try it

[wary elbow]

yeah

[frosty bone]

And any advice about collision box for player detection?

it must detect if player is inside box or not

i tried it, but it wont work. Even InterActive layer only.

[wary elbow]

i've never tried that component but i will try that now

[frosty bone]

its common used to control mirrors on/off when you walk off, or turn camera or let monster spawn. Mostly used in world games.

You put empty box collison there, add triggers on it like OnEnterTrigger / OnExitTrigger

But it's local player interaction

[wary elbow]

how about OnPlayerJoined?

[frosty bone]

hmm

[wary elbow]

may i try it?

[frosty bone]

go ahead

I thought OnPlayerJoined is world trigger.

[wary elbow]

oh

that makes sense

[frosty bone]

Player join world, and leave it

[wary elbow]

im gonna try with what you said

[frosty bone]

oke

i will do some experiments in small test world

[wary elbow]

lemme know if that pencil problem has fixed

[frosty bone]

ok confirmed no problem in test world

Seems something in other world affected on some items

[wary elbow]

yeah

[frosty bone]

The world is made with free room prefabs from asset store, it's SciFi room pack

now i go test box collision trigger

oh there is also OnEnterCollider / OnExitCollider

OnAvatarHit is also other

[wary elbow]

yeah

but if i delete the Collider, im not sure if OnEnter(Exit)Collider gonna works as well

OnEnter(Exit)Collider isn't works

[frosty bone]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A70dtbfZeK0 here is also simliar scene with triggers

oh box collider must set as trigger, i forgot it

[wary elbow]

yeah but i tried that and failed

[frosty bone]

eh?

[wary elbow]

wait

you mean the pencil?

[frosty bone]

no that, just screen or mirror on/off

i watching video above and it explains pretty much

so i go try it

[wary elbow]

it actually works

[frosty bone]

yep, i saw it in tutorial video above.

[wary elbow]

did you fixed the pencil problem?

[frosty bone]

i go check it soon, now checking trigger

[wary elbow]

yeah lemme know that later i go to sleep now

3:31 AM here

[frosty bone]

thanks you showed enough, so i know what i can do

have nice sleep

[wary elbow]

glad to it helps you 🙂

[short gulch]

Is there any way to use a different character movement system in vrchat, like one on the unity store for example?

[near escarp]

As they'll most likely rely on scripts, nope

[short gulch]

Alrighty then, I figured it was worth asking. The default unity first person movement is kinda jarring

[near escarp]

Use the holoport ?

[balmy gate]

@short gulch a few prefab authors have built their own player controllers using physics and relative teleports

See the popular climbing prefab as a good example of this

You could imagine a variant where you "climb" on a moving vehicle that moves how you want

[short gulch]

Oh I just meant its weird, not uncomfortable to use. I guess jarring wasnt the right word.

So this one you're talking about lyuma, you can't cancel momentum when falling by tapping forward, right?

[balmy gate]

I suppose not, but it's probably possible with work to detect this and then do something. Also it is possible to detect touchpad / joystick movement on the first device (left controller usually). Some driving worlds use this for example

[short gulch]

Sounds perfect, thanks! My biggest problem with vrchats movement is that physics dont seem to matter and that you can just cancel your fall and glide whenever you want.

[balmy gate]

I think that's kind of a "bug" actually that affects humanoids

If you make people use a generic avatar they can't cheat like that

[short gulch]

Oh yeah, now that you mention it I was wondering why I couldnt climb walls and glide with my car avatar. That'd explain it.

Thanks for the info though, I'll check out that climbing prefab and see if it does what I want it to

[left marlin]

Uh, I doubt the climbing prefab will do what you want since I made it super specific to climbing.

Phase’s system is all physics based which is probably what you want.

[short gulch]

Ah ok then, is his just on the community prefab list too?

[left marlin]

He hasn’t released it yet. I don’t know the status at all. @modern kayak any updates on physics locomotion?

[modern kayak]

The system is done but I'm working on how to release it. Needs a good readme, editor scripts, maybe even videos

[short gulch]

Cool, looking forward to it then :)

[left kettle]

Hello hello~ I'm trying to make a "class" system if you will but have no idea how to go about this. So for example, I'm trying to make a button where the person who clicks on this button, they'll get a blue sphere while everyone else gets a red sphere. How do I go on about carrying this out? I'm not all too familiar with broadcasting types just yet but I imagine it'd have something to do with the "owner" broadcast type. These spheres would be attached to the player tracking prefab as well.

[minor finch]

So I've placed a canvas near the Iwashi video player and it has caused the video player to disappear, has anyone else experienced this?

[cedar nebula]

@left kettle you're pretty much describing Prop Spawner, also from the Toybox. You'd still have to do some stuff to make the class logic work, but the above-head visuals can be handled by Prop Spawner

@minor finch Did you set it up correctly? You need to set something as a Dynamic Prefab, I think it's in the readme. If you already have then update your SDK to the latest one, the ones from earlier this month had an issue that broke Dynamic Prefabs

[left kettle]

OoO. Will do! Thank you very much~ I was just taking into a look into Alekso's "Master Checker" as well so I do have an idea of how to go on about this plan. Once again, thank you very much~

[minor finch]

@cedar nebula Updated the SDK and also placed the video player as a dynamic prefab.

when i get time i'm going to replace the video player in the scene as well as the extra canvas to see if i can't recreate it

[modern star]

Dose anyone know how to make a VRchat world?

[near escarp]

You can find a lot of tutorials on youtube to get started @modern star

If you have specific questions about certain steps you can always ask here

[modern star]

Ok! Thanks so much. <3

[wary elbow]

is anybody have an idea what is this error?

seems like it is the cause about i can't update my world

[left kettle]

@wary elbow try uploading with a fresh world ID.

From what it looks like, the ID for the world you're trying to upload might've been deleted.

[wary elbow]

i've been doing that like over than 10 times

never works

updated unity, VRCSDK and still nothing is solved

[modern kayak]

You need to detach your scene descriptor's pipeline manager

@wary elbow

[wary elbow]

i know i said im already did that much times

@modern kayak

like this right?

[modern kayak]

Wait when you say you updated unity, what version of unity are you on exactly?

[wary elbow]

it was 4.28f1

when i using unity version of 4.15, it happened same thing as well

[royal canyon]

did you try removing the VRCWorld and re-adding it?

[wary elbow]

yeah

and nothing's changed

im so desperate about this problem

im working on my world like more than a month

i can't lose my world like this way

[mild venture]

I just had an issue like this. The error was resolved by unchecking all other pipeline manager scripts on everything else but the vrcworld, and deleting all avatar descriptors besides the one on my world. I had a bunch on some avatars. :/ The issue resolved itself after doing that. But now my upload world button won't even work. XD

[wary elbow]

there is only one pipeline manager exists in my world...:(

[royal canyon]

If you haven't already, close Unity, browse through to find your project folder in your Documents, delete the SDK folder and everything associated with it. Then re-open Unity and re-import the SDK. Otherwise you can export a UnityPackage with everything except the SDK, start a new project, then import your UnityPackage.

[wary elbow]

thanks for information but i've already did that as well

[royal canyon]

you've exported a UnityPackage?

[wary elbow]

yeah

[royal canyon]

ok

well

I can't really help besides that

[wary elbow]

now im trying on another project

[royal canyon]

I thought you said you did that already

[wary elbow]

except that

because reloading my world is spend so much time

[royal canyon]

sometimes that's what it takes

[wary elbow]

i will give it a try

[royal canyon]

I had to COMPLETELY redo my very first world because I didn't know I could export a UnityPackage

[wary elbow]

😦

thats sad

[royal canyon]

it only took 3 days to redo it though

took a week to do it the first time

so it wasn't that bad

just always make sure your Unity and SDK are up to date cuz that will cause a lot of problems for you if you have the new Unity and an older SDK

[wary elbow]

is there any problems with updating the new version of SDK or unity?

[royal canyon]

not that I'm aware of no

do that

[wary elbow]

yeah thx

w8

[royal canyon]

??

you wanna make sure you have the most up to date SDK

[wary elbow]

it's VRCSDK-2019.09.18.12.05_Public

[royal canyon]

like I said, pull down the menu like I showed and "Check For Updates"

btw are you showing any errors in your Console?

[wary elbow]

that shows me "an update is available" message but when i go to settings menu it is already VRCSDK-2019.09.18.12.05_Public

yeah i have

[royal canyon]

what errors are in your console?

[wary elbow]

https://imgur.com/a/MG5HQaL

above one

[royal canyon]

but still, download that version anyway and install it anyway

if your SDK was truly up to date it wouldn't say an update is available

[balmy gate]

Does your world use post processing?

[wary elbow]

i've redownloaded once

the sdk

[royal canyon]

I meant from the dropdown

[wary elbow]

yeah

im not lying

i've done the whole things

[royal canyon]

does your world use Post Processing?

or do you have Post Processing imported?

[wary elbow]

what is Post Processing?

[royal canyon]

I'll take that as a no then

[wary elbow]

i've never seen that

[royal canyon]

ok

does your SDK work with other projects?

[wary elbow]

sure

i have another world

it works properly on there

[royal canyon]

there's something in your project then

your current project

maybe a custom script or something

did you download a skybox?

like AllSky Free?

[wary elbow]

yeah im using downloaded skybox

[royal canyon]

is it AllSky Free?

[wary elbow]

should i delete it?

i have no idea i will check

i will delete the skybox

but it does works before

[royal canyon]

don't do that, I'm just checking to see if there's a custom script

[wary elbow]

nah

there is no scripts

anything

[royal canyon]

well there could be one in your assets somewhere that's hidden but I don't think that's the issue. the issue is coming from the SDK I believe

[wary elbow]

could the materials be cause by this problem?

[royal canyon]

I don't think so

[wary elbow]

i mean i have really realistic materials on my chairs

[royal canyon]

materials wouldn't cause an issue

[wary elbow]

okay

[royal canyon]

unless it's a custom script

[balmy gate]

Ok clear your console, disable clear on play

[royal canyon]

^^

[balmy gate]

Then move an object a tiny bit and try build and publish again

You have to change something otherwise build publish doesn't do anything

[royal canyon]

or add a cube lol

thats what I do 😂

[wary elbow]

okay

[royal canyon]

btw when you exported your UnityPackage, did you untick the VRCSDK folder?

otherwise it'll export it

and you don't want that

[wary elbow]

i've included the VRCSDK

[royal canyon]

that might be your issue then

[wary elbow]

im working on the original project

[royal canyon]

export a UnityPackage and DON'T include the SDK folder on export

[wary elbow]

okay i will do that again

[royal canyon]

then when you get into a new project, import the package and reimport the NEW SDK

then try that

[mild spade]

Are you sure there are no more than one pipeline manager? Or 2 scene descriptors? Try deleting those two and upload it, if it tells you it needs one, then we can be certain there is only one (for future reference)

[wary elbow]

i have only one VRCWorld object and there is no any like avatars or something

[royal canyon]

that doesn't matter there could be a Pipeline Manager or Scene Descriptor on anything

[wary elbow]

there is no reason to be few pipeline managers

but the SDK doesn't show any error about that

[royal canyon]

it won't if there's 2

flip through all of your objects and look in the Inspector tab to see if there's more than 1

[wary elbow]

yeah i just checked and i found no second Pipeline Manager

[royal canyon]

ok

so commence with exporting the package into another project and do not include the VRCSDK folder.

[wary elbow]

okay im working on it

i just downloaded the latest version of VRCSDK

[royal canyon]

from the VRChat.net website?

[wary elbow]

yeah

[royal canyon]

ok cool

[bold ibex]

hey can i have some help

[royal canyon]

so when that package gets imported, import the NEW SDK 🙂

[wary elbow]

okay cool

[royal canyon]

@bold ibex sure what's going on?

I'll help if I can 🙂

[bold ibex]

ok so i started making a world about saturday and im trying to upload it now

whenver i test runn it or publish it publishes as an old version

[wary elbow]

omg you are same with me

[royal canyon]

what Unity version and SDK version are you using?

[bold ibex]

The latest one

[royal canyon]

hmmm so

are you using Post Processing?

[balmy gate]

What unity version

[royal canyon]

yeah "the latest version" doesn't really tell us much

[bold ibex]

yes i am

on a few rain shaders

[balmy gate]

Check post processing folders and delete Tests

[royal canyon]

ok so delete the Tests folder

That ^^^^

[bold ibex]

there isnt a post processing folder

[balmy gate]

Clear console, disable clear on play, move an object a bit and then build and publish again. Then look for every red error and send them

[bold ibex]

and there isnt any 2tests folder"

oki.

[royal canyon]

if you're using Post Processing there's definitely a post processing folder

[balmy gate]

It would be PostProcessing directly in assets

But other script errors can cause the same problem. Let's see what the errors are

[bold ibex]

0 errors

oh wait

[royal canyon]

did you disable clear on play?

[bold ibex]

no

[royal canyon]

oh you're missing a Texture

you'll have to find what texture you're missing

[bold ibex]

OMG

ok

thanks for the help

[royal canyon]

no problem, if you have any more issues I'll help if I can

[frosty bone]

@wary elbow i found the problem about weird morphing items when try rotate.

[royal canyon]

it

its probably parented under a game object that doesn't have a position of 0 or something

[wary elbow]

what was that

[royal canyon]

or it was imported with a weird angle

[frosty bone]

yeah

It was in game object group

when put in root, it worked

[royal canyon]

yeah just unparent it

[wary elbow]

oh

[royal canyon]

yep! 🙂

[wary elbow]

that is so good for you

[frosty bone]

But how can i make sure it goes well when in game object?

must it set on neutral 000 / 111 ?

[royal canyon]

create a new game object with pos & rot 000, scale 111

yes

correct

[frosty bone]

so no other values are allowed, okee

[royal canyon]

just move the child objects under it

after u make it 000, 111

[frosty bone]

hmhm

[royal canyon]

I think the Parent object takes precedence over the child objects

[frosty bone]

yeah i saw it

values changed when moved to object with values

no problem if it's not pickup.

[royal canyon]

it doesn't necessarily have to be parented under an empty game object either if it's a pickup or not

if you want things to move together just parent the objects under the object with the pickup

it'll apply the pickup to the children as well

[wary elbow]

Good news

i've solved it

that too much realistic materials was the issue

[royal canyon]

that's really weird

but I am glad you solved it

[red magnet]

anyway to fix this reflection problem for waters? the skybox is a sphere btw

[royal canyon]

I'm not sure @red magnet maybe try another water shader?

[weak raven]

water is a mechanic that you have to play around with, make sure the metallic surfacing isn't set to high. @red magnet

[wary elbow]

are you guys have any good ideas to loop the few audio clips?

[royal canyon]

like background music?

[frosty bone]

Question: can you make hole in the ground terrain?

like you want make path to go under terrain

[red magnet]

i think the issue is that the water shader simply do not support vr environment.. if anyone has a good water shader that works great on vr with reflection/refraction let me know please, thank you

[bronze smelt]

There is a few in the pinned database

@red magnet ^

[red magnet]

thanks

[civic forge]

how do you make quest world? what settings do you go to>

[near escarp]

#world-quest

[civic forge]

ty

[wary elbow]

@royal canyon yeah

i want to play few musics on my world and make it loop

like one by one

first -> second -> third -> ... -> last -> first

[royal canyon]

you could do it with Animation Events

[woven condor]

I'm stuck with this - any help please - i have oninteract trigger 4 timed events - how can i stop 2nd activation of trigger while events play out ?

[royal canyon]

use Animation Events

[fervent scarab]

question about material counts in VRCHAT worlds. is it better to have many material slots and repeating textures on them or condense everything to few material slots and just big gross looking textures

trying to set up my UV's better I think this is going to be a new better method

[balmy relic]

import all the song in audacity and put them back to back

Of what I saw in all the mobile game asset that I rip is.

one big ass texture or two

And multiple material. So culling work corectly. Idk

[delicate marsh]

i'm using post processing and i want to have players be able to toggle screen effects

i have the profile on the main camera and i have an animation to toggle the component 'post processing behavior' set to a button local on interact

works in unity when i test the trigger but not in game

any ideas?

[balmy gate]

Post professional behavior isn't a component in post processing v2

You must be using post processing v2 to make it togglable

And then you want to toggle the Post Processing Volume object or component @delicate marsh

[delicate marsh]

i read the docs but i couldn't find the package manager to change it to v2

hm

[balmy gate]

Follow silent's tutorial for setting up pp v2 https://gitlab.com/s-ilent/SCSS/wikis/Other/Post-Processing

You need to delete version 1 or rename it is fine too

Then find the official unity github and download it from there

It's not in asset store. Silent's guide should have a link

[delicate marsh]

ok ty. so there's no way to trigger without v2 right?

[balmy gate]

Correct. V1 is static and according to 1001 is poor quality and deprecated

So basically you shouldn't use pp v1 in for any new project

Ppv2 make sure to delete Tests folder after importing. Also be careful about layers

The layer the pp volume object is on must match the layer you used in the dropdown for post processing layer component

[bold ibex]

poor quality is a little strong but yeah, v2 is faster, looks better, has some things fixed for vr and future proof so to say 😄

[lone epoch]

is avatar pedestal possible with ui button? settings like this isn't works for me 🤔
(nevermind, fixed it)

[royal canyon]

@fervent scarab dude, Probuilder is lit.

[fervent scarab]

@royal canyon probuilder?

[royal canyon]

Yeah it has UV features, too. I use it, but what you're using seems to be awesome too.

[fervent scarab]

oh... ive kinda resorted to oldschool ways

[royal canyon]

lol nice

[warm marten]

wtf pro builder has uv features?

i didnt know that

you mean i dont have to slog though trying to make a functional uv map on blender?

[mild venture]

So I'm trying to publish my world, but the naming, description and upload button never appear. Anyone know the fix?

[raw arrow]

Pause your editor

It's playing rn and you're in the game tab

[mild venture]

I mean, it starts playing itself after I click publish in the builder

then it just never goes to the naming window and whatnot

[raw arrow]

Oh I see the problem now oops

I understood it wrong. Have you tried saving the project and the scene and whatnot and tried restarting unity?

[mild venture]

Yeah, I've replaced the sdk as well. I've had nothing but problems with the latest sdk :x

all errors I've gotten were sdk related

I got rid of them, but now it just never goes to the upload window

idk why

[raw arrow]

This probably won't fix it but I see you're view in the game tab is scaled differently, maybe try setting that back to default and trying?

[mild venture]

Nah, I've tried that. I even made a new unity project.
Could it be that my Unity is
Unity 2017.4.28f1 Personal?

[raw arrow]

It does matter if your version is free or paid, the numbers really just need to be the same

And I'm assuming you can't upload if you're not on the latest SDK?

[mild venture]

Yeah. Should I switch to an older sdk?

[blissful sundial]

Are there any guides on how to make an escalator?

[raw arrow]

You could try it, but it might break it

[mild venture]

Hmm. Guess I'll try with a backup. Thanks. 🙂

[raw arrow]

Might have to send in a support ticket or something, that's kind of a major issue tbh

[mild venture]

Yeah, it really is. :/ None of my friends knew how to fix it.
This anything important?

[raw arrow]

The sdk might be trying to turn on some sort of vr mode. I don't think it's a problem but I'm no expert with errors

[mild venture]

Ah, okie. Thanks tho 🙂

[cedar nebula]

you might have errors that you're not seeing. Disable Clear on Play and Error Pause and do another build, then see what comes up

[remote plover]

I have a ball and a sprite. I want the sprite to move with the ball, but not rotate with it. Is there a way to do this using fixed joints, or billboard renderers or something?

[mild spade]

@remote plover Using the "follow target" script from the "Standard assets" will let any object follow another object without affecting rotation.

[remote plover]

Thanks! That's exactly what I needed

[mild venture]

How to stop a reflection probe from flickering? 🤔

When I look upward a bit, I notice the ground stops showing the reflection probe's work.

Like so.

[bold ibex]

Hello. I deseperatly need help form my world. I started to make a little bedroom, everything worked fine, I managed to bake lights, world runs at 100fps on my crappy computer.
Then I added a second room to expand my world, as a second mesh. Now the game caps at 30 fps and light baking is hell. 😦

Do I need to put occlusion areas on each room or a single one for the whole scene?

My world looks and lightin settings look like this

https://imgur.com/43isD9V

Am I doing something wrong?

[woven condor]

thank you @royal canyon animation events work for play without interrupt. Now i cannot reset for switch to work again. oninteract switch set bool true - how do i reset bool false without switch press so events not loop ?

[bold ibex]

Hello, I get sent to the default spawn thingy when I try to enter my own world that I just made from the VRChat home kit video

e_e

[bronze smelt]

@bold ibex Did you add the Spawn object to the Scene Descriptor in VRCWorld?

[lyric turtle]

Is someone willing to help me with a problem, like i have some mirrors and i want them to turn of each other so you only can activate one at the time.

[unique comet]

i want to add a miror to my world but i want it to be the old optimised people only one can someone show me how i do it?

[bronze smelt]

@lyric turtle There are multiple ways you can do this. Some better than the other.
The simplest way would just have a local custom trigger with all the mirror object in it that turns them all off.
Have that fire first, then under than you add another trigger to turn what ever mirror you want on.
This is the "first time" way of doing it.

@unique comet Just remove the layers you don't need on the mirror and you'll get what you want.

[unique comet]

ah ok

but can i get a memory refresh on all the button toggles and shit

like the press x thing and boom optimised mirror

[lyric turtle]

Sweet thx, ill see if i can make that happen

[bronze smelt]

@unique comet You need to have two mirrors and use a trigger to switch between them on Key Press

[unique comet]

why two again?

is it for the optimisation of the mirror

[bronze smelt]

You can't edit the layers in real time, therefor you need two mirrors. But only one is enabled at any time

[mild spade]

@woven condor If you want an animation event to fire once and reset itself after, you would use a "trigger" instead of a "bool"

[bold ibex]

Do you guys know why, everytime I join my world it sens me to this stuff e.e

The only thing that my world contain is this;

[fervent scarab]

@lyric turtle i like this username uwu

lol

@bronze smelt does that method need a delay or does the even system follow down the list like it's a que list

[bronze smelt]

It's supposed to go down the list

[fervent scarab]

I have a question for Unity, is there another method of snapping models together instead of setting the snapping size? can i snap objects together based on their pivot point?

[lyric turtle]

@fervent scarab Well thank you #^-^#

[stray sand]

@fervent scarab there's vertex snapping (https://docs.unity3d.com/2017.4/Documentation/Manual/PositioningGameObjects.html) someone could have made a editor script to snap to pivot points.

[quartz stag]

coming halloween!

[weak raven]

i got no clue...

[woven condor]

thank you @mild spade - for future i will use - i find how set "Bool" at animation end false without use trigger - i change perhaps but for now is work fine.

@weak raven have you 2 scenes in hierarchy

[cyan pike]

@mild venture the flickering is cuz of bloom in the world with reflection probe with the material metallic set to high also make sure your probe is set to cover the whole world if you just want one also could be from bad UVmapping to

[mild venture]

Thank you!! @cyan pike How do I check the UVmapping? In Blender? I'm afraid UVmapping is one of the things I've not touched up on yet.

[cyan pike]

yea blender

[mild venture]

You know any good tutorials?

Oh, wait. I have dabbled a bit in this before. I was thinking UVmapping was something else. Nvm.

[supple drift]

Can you post a gif/video of the reflection probe flickering or disabling when you look a certain way?

[short gulch]

You could use probuilder to edit UVs too

And I need to read the whole message before responding lol.

[supple drift]

Do you have any real-time or mixed lights in your world? The only flickering like that I've seen is when you cross the max pixel light limit which maybe might look like a reflection probe shutting off.

[mild venture]

@supple drift

I do. I've mixed lights

What is the max pixel light limit?

I was looking into that last night, and couldn't figure it out.

[cyan pike]

oh that is from the mixed lights

you have to many and they cant all be rendered at once

need to bake them tbh to stop them from doing that or reduce the amount you have from what ive tested before if you have more then 6 mixed lights all in one room all being rendered at once it will cause a big fps drop

[mild venture]

Ohhh. Yeah, there's 8 torches, two bonfires and then two point lights near the horse statues to give them a bit of a glow.
What about my probe? It's set to realtime atm because when it's set to baked, there's no reflection at all. Do my lights have to be baked in order to use a baked probe? Or can I use baked lights and a realtime probe?

[supple drift]

Yeah! Baking is the best option for performance. If you need to cast shadows from avatars/players, you can use a single approximately-placed mixed light and use the culling mask so it only affects players (which will make it a lil cheaper)

In the Lighting window, you can click the dropdown arrow on the button that you'd use to bake and have it just bake all the reflection probes in your scene! I def would recommend baking your lighting though

[mild venture]

Makes sense, thank you both. 🙂 Darn. The only thing was that I've the lighting as animations to produce that bright to dim fire effect

[cyan pike]

no you need to bake your whole world project to get the probed baked you can leave the lights at mixed for testing

[mild venture]

so if I baked that, then the animation would be screwy i think?

[cyan pike]

no it wont mess with the animation if you leave thos on mixed (if they are rotating) only but bake the rest

[mild venture]

Do I bake things in the Occlusion tab?
Or does it bake automatically? Because I've set it to auto generate since my PC is a beast, so it doesn't take long. But is there something more I need to do to bake it?
I just thought baked lights weren't working since I couldn't ever see them while testing, so I've had them at mixed.
Would someone be willing to screenshare with me for a few min? :3

[cyan pike]

window > lighting > settings near the bottom it will say Generate lighting

[mild venture]

Ohh, I see. So I just switch my lights to baked and push that instead of having auto generate on

[cyan pike]

turn auto-gen off

hate how its on by default in 2017 unity

[mild venture]

It is kinda annoying having it try to load every time I move something a fraction of a centimeter lol

What is the max setting for pixel lights?

[cyan pike]

i have mine set to 35

[mild venture]

I see. How high can it go?

[supple drift]

In the client, it's between 4-8 depending on the quality settings the player sets iirc

In our use cases / for the sake of optimization, we should rlly never be hitting close to that 😅

[mild venture]

To 35? XD

[cyan pike]

i have all the light sources in my world i used that setting on baked

[supple drift]

Mine is set pretty high in the editor too bcs I wanna get a rough preview of as many lights as possible without drop outs before I bake em. VRChat will enforce it down to the 4-8 in the client anyway!

[mild venture]

Ohhh, I see.

Can I show you my settings?

[supple drift]

Sure!

[mild venture]

I also have post processing behavior on

[supple drift]

So your quality settings are gonna get overridden by VRChat anyway, but you can match them if you want bcs one of the devs posted the settings they use in #development-advanced (it's in the pinned messages)

Doesn't look like your lights are baked though bcs no lightmaps! Just need to generate lighting (and there's tons of tutorials on le interweb on baking lighting in Unity too to get your settings right)

[mild venture]

Yeah, I followed Xiexe's tutorial for the most part, so I hope it's okay. 🙂 I guess I've never baked them yet then. Oops. XD So these light settings seem like they'll go with my probe settings? I just need to generate the lighting now?

And thank you so much

[supple drift]

Ideally, you'd make all your lights baked instead of mixed and use light probes to light dynamic objects (like pickups and avatars) for performance! Then you could generate (assuming everything that doesnt move is static)

You'll run into the issue where you can't flicker your candles if you fully bake your lights tho. Maybe a hacky way to do subtle flickering w/ baked lights would just be to animate a post-processing volume that is graded to be slightly dimmer. Someone else might have a better idea!

[mild venture]

I never did the lightprobes, because I was confused when it came to that part. :x I guess I need to do those. It still says I have no lightmaps after baking. Hmm. 😤

Yeah, I may just have to say goodbye to my torch animations.

But my map is static, yeah.

[cyan pike]

you have the light probe group hidden thats why

[mild venture]

Oh. Well, I did hide it cuz I threw it in the project and didn't know what to do with it. The tutorial I saw, they duplicated like, idk, ten or so lightprobes? I wasn't sure how to do it. Do I just fill up the room with them?

that's all i had it as

hahahaha

Is that why my reflection is screwy? Not doing the lightprobes?

🤦

Or, I mean, is that why baking wont work?

Because no light probes? I feel dumb

I'm sorry lol

[cyan pike]

no probes no baked stuff i think

[mild venture]

Ahhhhhhhhh

awe.

"It makes sense"

is what it deleted

How many lightprobes should you fill a big room like this with? Should I just duplicate like... idk, 20 of them or so?

[cyan pike]

dont really know

[mild venture]

Cuz, I mean, the tutorial I was learning from used a lot

Ah, okie

Thank you :3

[cyan pike]

if you have an Nvidia card its best to buy the Bakery plugin for unity will help do the baking faster

[mild venture]

how much is that?

I've a gtx 1080 yeah

[near escarp]

You need lightprobes where light intensity changes

Covering your entire world is fine, making sure there isn't any under the floor or behind walls

[mild venture]

Ah, so all around my torches and whatnot. Thanks, Ruuubick. 🙂

[near escarp]

You can have a few thousand baked ones and it'll be fine

[mild venture]

😱 .... 😈 Time to go light probe crazy then. 😂

Is this what you spoke of? @cyan pike

[cyan pike]

yea

[mild venture]

It looks quite nice

[cyan pike]

it is sadly i cant use it cuz it doesnt support AMD cards

[supple drift]

It goes on sale every now and then, I got it for like ~20-25 USD. If you're planning on developing worlds for a bit, it saves quite a bit of time

[mild venture]

Okay, plz porgib all the questions. But how do I make a skybox seamless without those annoying little square lined bits you can see?
Awe. I'm sorry.

Sweet, I'll have to grab it when it's on sale then

[cyan pike]

place the skybox texture on a inverted sphere if the skybox texture is already laid out correct

[mild venture]

How to invert it? Do I scale it into the negatives?

sorry

noob

[cyan pike]

blender invert the normals

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ui5kaAbLrso

[mild venture]

Thank you, I'll watch this :3

[plucky yacht]

Anyone ever have the VRC Prefab mirror just break?

[cyan pike]

nope

[plucky yacht]

nvm it was just backwards smh

i feel like an idiot

[mild venture]

😂 Don't worry, I've done similar stuff like that all week

[near escarp]

A 3 minute video to flip normals lmao

[supple drift]

Gotta get that ad rev

[mild venture]

I tried watching a nine min one before that, and some people just talk to talk. XD Hahahaha

[finite grove]

lol

[mild venture]

"Like, what are you getting at?" sometimes lol

emerge even more confused when vid is longer

[primal sequoia]

how do I make an avatar pedestal show the avatar name instead of "Use"?

[finite grove]

Some people like to be very descriptive but some of them just add clutter(in my view) to the video

[supple drift]

It reminds me of those recipes online that start with like five paragraphs about the author's life story

[mild venture]

Yeah, just to add time to a vid.

[near escarp]

@primal sequoia Change the Use text on the trigger

[finite grove]

Anyone know if a world can have a map system(Like porting over a gamemode from gmod and having it load a random/player voted map)

[primal sequoia]

I meant to ask, how do I make the use text use the avatar title automatically?

[supple drift]

@finite grove Within one world? You could enable and disable whatever and/or use occlusion portals to draw (or not draw) certain things - then set up a voting mechanic to control all of that. If that's what you mean!

[near escarp]

@primal sequoia You can't do that automatically

[fossil estuary]

In order for a world to be public do I have to check the community labs box before uploading?

[supple drift]

Yes, it'll go into labs and then eventually become public (as long as it doesn't get reported, etc.)

[spark thunder]

https://i.gyazo.com/592cedae69a589a54a0c12b0694668d7.jpg

i was generating lightmaps and my computer crashed and now when i opned my scense my whole house is gone... u can see where i had a picture and lights in the house can i get it back
?

anybody?

[copper prairie]

Can a sprite be used as a mirror trigger?

[cedar nebula]

anything can be used as a trigger really. If you mean pressing the sprite like a button then all it needs is a collider and an OnInteract trigger

[copper prairie]

Ty

[past burrow]

@spark thunder unfortunately there's no way to recover an unsaved scene on unity but all of your files like models, textures and more should be fine, you have to put'em back together on the scene

[spark thunder]

it was saved

my computer crashed and then it was gone but all my lights and stuff were still there

[spark thunder]

can someone help me with my reflection probe?

i want my reflection to be for each part of the room and it keeps just showing the dang skybox as the reflection!

[near escarp]

Edit the bounds of the reflection probe

or move it within the room if you haven't already

[copper prairie]

@spark thunder https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DM8QfRzxZpY

[spark thunder]

is this video just doing baking cuz i know how to bake. this problem is soemthing new and it doesnt make sense

ive done that @near escarp

[copper prairie]

He talks about the reflecting the skybox problem

[simple halo]

Does anyone know why this is happening ?

[near escarp]

@spark thunder Can you post screenshots of the setups ?

[hot bobcat]

So I just finished a world on VR CHAT but I am new to it. What are the requirements to to upload a world?

[simple halo]

Mainly just have to be a User Rank in the Trust System and the world follows the rules of the game @hot bobcat

[hot bobcat]

@simple halo I get that but idk how to upload in the first place and how long it takes to get a user rank in the trust system. Do you by chance know any videos that show you how to upload a world through unity?

[severe crown]

you use unity to upload worlds into Vrchat

theres a VRchat SDK extention that you use in Unity to upload the world

but you need a certain amount of hours in the game to be able to upload avatars and worlds into the game first.

[copper prairie]

@simple halo https://youtu.be/ynQRg4LhNjE?t=1608

[river frost]

@hot bobcat https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uZlKTm8Uhd0 ignore the unity version mentioned in the video

[spring linden]

is it possible to get some error/debug information if a world can not load because of some stuff? everytime if i try to test my world it sends me back to the home world but i dont know how to find the problem(besides deleting everything)

[cedar nebula]

check the outputlog for errors, but usually the problem can found in the Unity console

!outputlog

[tawny lily]

You can find your output log at C:\Users\%Username%\AppData\LocalLow\VRChat\vrchat named output_log.txt

[weak raven]

@backwards#8560 sorry for late reply, I only have 1 scene.

[leaden atlas]

Hi all,

Does someone know if this works in VRChat?
https://assetstore.unity.com/packages/tools/terrain/r-a-m-river-auto-material-101205

It contains scripts... but I just found scripts for the editor (have checked the preview).

[chrome lynx]

vrc does not support custom scripts if it is not on vrc's whitelist

[coral wing]

Editor scripts are allowed, but the only way of knowing if something works is testing it

seems like it's a flowmap generator? so it could work, but it uses it's own shader so I'm not sure if it'll cause any trouble in VR

[balmy gate]

With asset store stuff I'd generally expect to do extra work to make it compatible with VR (stereo support for shaders) and/or VRChat (no scripts), which is annoying because you're playing extra for a supposedly prepackaged and working solution. I wish they had a way to preview the asset before putting down $40-50

[fervent scarab]

for science!!!

[lyric turtle]

So can someone pls help? is there a way for me to update the world i have, like i have made a world in blender, made it an fbx and uploaded it in unity, now i have made some more changes in blender and i dont want to conect all tha buttons and stuf in unity again. is there a way for me to just put in the updated object?

[balmy gate]

if you overwrite an FBX file by exporting it on top of it or overwriting it in explorer, then open Unity, unity will detect the changes and refresh

just make sure not to change too much of the structure (splitting meshes, renaming stuff, changing armatures for skinning) because then you may have to reassign materials or rerig those parts

also I always recommend to keep backups of old FBX and old scene files

@lyric turtle

[lyric turtle]

I'll make sure to make a backup ^^ and thanks ill try to see if i can get it to work :3

[river frost]

Hello guys:) anybody knows is it normal that I uploaded a new world to community lab but it doesn't appear in my profile? I remember the first world I uploaded few months ago appear right away in my profile when I uploaded it.

[near escarp]

Which profile ?

[river frost]

the profile in game

[near escarp]

you mean the worlds menu row called "Mine" ?

[river frost]

it appears in "Mine" and in community labs too, but it doesn't appear in my profile😂

[near escarp]

I don't think community labs show up there ?

[river frost]

Ahh I removed it and decided to upload it again because I thought it bugged😥

but it happens to my friend too

[bronze smelt]

CL worlds should show on the list too. But if it's cached, it might not show up right away.

As long as the world shows up in the CL row you're fine.

Example: https://i.imgur.com/XV9n3r6.png

[river frost]

Ahh Okiee

Thank you all for helping😆

[open thicket]

how can I make something where it displays a number of things "found" on the players screen? like say how many items they've already collected

good example the doom world with the health bar etc

[short gulch]

What would you guys say are the best gun prefabs currently available? Preferably a pack with different types of guns (auto, semi-auto, shotgun, sniper rifle, etc.)

[supple drift]

I'm not sure, but if you're working on a shooter - Udon is (supposed to be) right around the corner and is probably worth the wait if you just started working on it

[green lagoon]

or maybe start working on your environment arts & level design while you wait for udon

[short gulch]

Mkay, nice to hear Udon is almost ready. I was just curious if there are any better than jetdogs, they behave kinda strangely. Like if you shoot someone, the particle will hit their hitbox and kinda float there for a bit, but they need to move into the particle for it to actually deal damage. So if you shoot someone while they are moving away from you it wont deal damage

I found that you're actually more likely to hurt yourself than someone else with these guns

[supple drift]

Yeah, I think shooters are just way more complicated than they seem when it comes to mechanics and even syncing (in general, but especially in our case).

I mean we dunno what Udon really has yet to work with, but definitely more than we have now which should help. Doing things like matchmaking and team stuff is a pain rn too. I'm sure there will be some advanced shooter prefabs post-Udon. Maybe you can make it! 😉

[coral wing]

best way to do guns without weird sync issues is with raycasts which right now can be accessed using one of the standard scripts, but yeah with udon stuff should be easier so hopefully we'll have access to that

[copper prairie]

Does anyone know where I can get a height ruler model, or know how to figure out real world measurements while making a world?

[bold ibex]

Any recomended water shader to use for small stuff like sinks, etc?

[supple drift]

It's relative, but most Unity stuff uses meters as the default so 1 unit = 1 meter is prob the best way to go. There's a height chart in the Avatar Testing world that most use for avatars so that's prob our best scale reference. I usually just use the blue fred in the sdk for height ref when greyboxing @copper prairie

[coral wing]

if you're importing a model use a unity cube for scale

and yeah 1 unit = 1m

I generally like to import my avatar, a nikkei, and a cube with it's origin at the base so it's y is the height of the cube

[stone hollow]

the colission pill for a player is 2m tall

so make doors atleast 2.1m

[copper prairie]

Thank you guys.

[stone hollow]

👍

@bold ibex Any reason you can just use a translucent blue plane? sink water doesnt usually move a whole lot (alot of water shaders emulate ocean/sea so they arent a good fit)

[fervent scarab]

@stone hollow what are your worlds?

[stone hollow]

The Junkyard, Crafty Climbers, Sunset boat, The Box of Marriage, I co created Balloon Farm awhile ago?

[fervent scarab]

Neat!

I wish world discovery was more passive....

[stone hollow]

I actively seek out original works so i cant complain really

Also Junkyard and Crafty were in spotlight, how could you miss them 😔

Why do you ask, anyway?

[soft lynx]

How can I make my world darker?

[near escarp]

darker how ?

[soft lynx]

Lighting.

The lighting in my world is too bright. I want to make it so dark that the mansion and sky are barely visible.

I only have one lighting source, but I tried turning it down a lot and it didn't work.

[near escarp]

You could maybe try with post processing instead then

https://gitlab.com/s-ilent/SCSS/wikis/Other/Post-Processing

[soft lynx]

Ooh, that sounds perfect! Thank you!

[stone hollow]

Looks like the model just inst recieving light at all

or is using an unlit shader

Post processing is (and always should be) a last resort!

[soft lynx]

I think I'm using the standard shader.

Yeah, I'm using the standard shader.

[stone hollow]

Looks like the model just is nott receiving light at all

[soft lynx]

Oh my god! Yes! This is exactly what I was looking for!

[bold ibex]

it looks good, but it might make everybody's avatars too dark

be sure to check how avatars look with those lights and post settings

[soft lynx]

Will do.

[fervent scarab]

an evil vets torture device THE NEUTERIZOR!!

[stone hollow]

better not be what i think it be

[weak raven]

^

[dusk gulch]

Does anyone know what settings I need to have checked in the circles for my videos to play for others who join my world and have it be in sync with where I am at? I can get the videos to play for myself but my friends are just seeing a grey screen.

[solid helm]

@stone hollow Colour grading should be the last resort but tone mapping should be the first thing you set up

[stone hollow]

Not if you do your colors right in the first place?

[solid helm]

There is no doing it right when Unity displays them in the wrong colour space 😋

[cedar nebula]

@dusk gulch Make it MasterUnbuffered and set the Targets to Owner. Yes it sounds weird but that's the setup

[solid helm]

Saying "just do the colours right" is bad advice. If this was a 2D game with sprites it would make sense, but because of how Unity does lighting that's just going to make things harder for people for no reason because they'll assume they set things up wrong when the reality is that Unity isn't displaying their art properly.

[dusk gulch]

@cedar nebula Didn't work

[fervent scarab]

my evil vet clinic is taking shape

[solid helm]

And you can go out of your way to work around this and still have issues. You can make all your materials unlit, paint all the lighting in by hand, and you'll still see things look too bright or too dark because Unity is still rendering things in a way that assumes they'll be tonemapped at the other end.

[cedar nebula]

It didn't work? I don't see why it wouldn't, that's the setup... how is it not working? It won't play for other people or it just isn't playing at all?

[dusk gulch]

It plays for me with pretty much every setting I try but its just a grey screen for others

I feel like im losing my mind trying setting after setting

[supple drift]

What do you mean Unity is displaying in the wrong color space? You're makin me nervous

[dusk gulch]

Could me using a button as a trigger to wake the video player impact it?

[cedar nebula]

hhhmmm I'm not sure what the problem is then. Maybe they've changed how video players function since I last messed with it. Have you looked at the example scene in the SDK to see how that's setup?

how you trigger it shouldn't really matter

[dusk gulch]

Yeah Ive looked at the example scene as well

Here's my button if it matters

[cedar nebula]

I wouldn't set it up like that. Video players don't work well when disabled, ever. Also OwnerUnbuffered doesn't really work in this situation. Use AlwaysUnbuffered

[dusk gulch]

Yeah the idea was to have buttons linking to different videos so that it would be like an easy way to switch to the next one at will. Much like the popular movie world that is setup with a server only this would operate at a smaller scale and based on links.

[cedar nebula]

I think what those do is all the videos are under one playlist and playing a specific video jumps to that spot in the playlist. It's all one video player and it's never disabled, only Stopped

[frank geyser]

Does anyone here know how to use custom animation controller on the vrc station (aka custom sitting animations when you sit on a vrc chair)

[near escarp]

@rare bobcat What do you mean by apply the material and preview

@frank geyser In your avatar components there's an override slot for sitting animation

[frank geyser]

this isnt for an avatar, its for a vrc chair. I have a prefab and the default sitting animation on that is different, and i dont have to change anything on my avatars

On the custom prefab chairs i got the only thing thats changed is the animation controller on vrc station

[near escarp]

Did you add your animation file to that to override it ?

[frank geyser]

yeah i made it animation file from an avatar and if i put said animation controller on any random avatar it plays the animation perfectly

but if i put it on the vrc station on the animator controller, it changes nothing

[near escarp]

What does your animation controller look like ?

[frank geyser]

what do you mean?

[near escarp]

how did you configure it

[frank geyser]

i posed a random avatar on how i wanted it in the animation tab and took that

should i be using a overidecontroller instead

[frank geyser]

ok kinda got it, but its not playing what the animation its supposed to play

just stays still

and its different from the other custom sitting animations form the prefab i got

i think the ani file isnt working properly

but when i apply the ani to random ava it works fine

[near escarp]

@rare bobcat i believe there's a bug with the setmaterial trigger list

are the material names similar ?

So you have multiple materials in the list and it only grabs the first one ?

Or is that specific to the object it's sent to

[frank geyser]

omg

i found it out i think, the model i used was in generic rig, not humanoid

[near escarp]

that would do it 😄

[frank geyser]

8 months

[near escarp]

i got confused when you said "it works on any model"

[frank geyser]

same

[deft dome]

I have a question.

[frank geyser]

but ig i didnt rig them bc i didnt need to

[deft dome]

I'll just ask it later

[near escarp]

@rare bobcat Can you check your triggers in your world, and then look at your log to see if there's any indication of the trigger not firing or the material being the cause ?

sorry i meant publish your world as a local test

C:\Users\X\AppData\LocalLow\VRChat\vrchat

output_log

it's created when you start a session

you can open it at the end to see events in detail

[stone hollow]

put it in a pastebin

[frank geyser]

ok now

now when i make a new animation for a model it just teleports it far away

[near escarp]

@rare bobcat Can you post pictures of your setup as well ?

[near escarp]

So what isn't working in this clip ?

[near escarp]

I'm not aware of those limitations, but what are the differences between the upper and lower row ?

And have you tried using a copy of the component of the top row for the bottom row to see if having two triggers solves the problem ?

[modern kayak]

I would recommend using an something other than setmaterial, like an animator. Setmaterial has always been kinda iffy

[fervent scarab]

@near escarp notices you owo...

[spring linden]

is it normal that shadows start to flicker as more i'm far away from the center of a world?

[cedar nebula]

realtime shadows tend to have those problems in general to be honest, floating point errors probably just make it worse

[sterile flame]

Ok so now I have the documentary out the way and can focus on other projects, I wanna learn how to build my own world. I have a lot of inspiration from mina Francesca who made the secret cafe garden utopia, my dream world and such. I love how intuitive and interactive the world is as well as just how beautiful they all are and pleasant to sit and relax in.

The idea is basically a cafe by day and a cool whiskey and cocktail bar by night (so two different versions when you interact with a switch in the world, master only)

Now my only problem is... I know absolutely noting when it comes to unity... most avatar packages I get my hands on I end up breaking them and doing something stupid xD

Point me to the right tutorials and tips so I can get a base down. I'll get to triggers and things later sown the line.

There will be a section dedicated to pocky :3

[finite mountain]

@open thicket

• hardlight's playertracker prefab (so you can pin objects to the player camera to serve as your HUD)
• an animator on that pinned object with a set of different animations it transitions to depending on a parameter. The animations display numbers or coins or whatever.
• give the collectable objects scattered around your world each a vrc trigger that sends the AnimatorIntAdd action to change the parameter in the pinned HUD object.
• if you want something to happen when the parameter hits a certain value (like a door that unlocks at 100 coins) add another animation to the pinned HUD object and have the animation enable a child object. Give that child object a vrc trigger that OnEnable does the thing you want.

[mild spade]

@sterile flame You could start by watching CyanLaser's youtibe tutorials on world development. https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLIoLQ-8wanr9jQWDUIs_2zshaDD_Lg-9R
Keep in mind he uses old SDK and things might look differently.
If you have any question about unity just ask here, as simple as it is, just ask, we will help you.

[bronze smelt]

Those videos are a bit above what was asked for ^_^

Start with using free assets and play around in the editor, once you feel comfortable with that.
Then you can start looking at more advanced things like getting it into VRChat, optimize content, bake light ect.

[fervent scarab]

more props/furniture for my world

[royal canyon]

make sure your VRCWorld is slightly above

the terain

then retry it

hmmm try a box collider on it then

on the terrain

that's fine

it'll still work

or actually you can try ticking "Convex" under the Mesh Collider

idk why it doesn't work though, it should if it has a collider on it

huh? what's the terrain made of then?

highlight the terrain and let me see it in the Inspector

take off the box collider and mesh collider

you only need 1 collider per item

try it

[tawny lily]

┬──┬ ノ( ゜-゜ノ) There you go

[royal canyon]

my bad.....

well then take off the terrain collider and readd the mesh collider

2 colliders on 1 item won't work especially if they're overlapping

Unity won't know which collider to actually use

[near escarp]

if it's flat, add a gigantic box collider

most of it looks pretty flat, try with thaat

[royal canyon]

did you test it with the mesh collider?

[near escarp]

Why is the collider component disabled

[royal canyon]

If you're gonna be ungrateful for trying to help you, I won't any longer.

No need to be a crybaby about it

.>

[near escarp]

should have googled it to begin with

[royal canyon]

^^^ THIS

[left marlin]

Lol, your layer is player. Change it to default and keep the terrain collider.

[near escarp]

Did you change your terrain layer on purpose ?