#vrchat-general-2
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Re: Disconnect spikes
A service provider we use is undergoing maintenance that was not expected to impact us.
We've mitigated to alleviate disconnects for the rest of their maintenance window.
We will continue to monitor the situation and mitigate further if necessary.

just mitigate stronger, no more disconnects. ez
hey i just found out my friend got banned for using a modified client
how serious is this, like will she be let back on soon or like what
They need to make a support ticket.
thx
she was really upset
oh and 1 last question (also not sure if even asking this question is against the rules so ima put a spoiler on it)
||is erping against the rules or only in public lobbies||
I'm not a moderator, just keep servers and API up and running.
Should read the community guidelines/TOS for the rules.
oki
@steady oyster it is not allowed
yeah dc
Let's not endorse or talk about ways of skirting the rules please. :)
Alright
yeah im not saying we should be doing it im saying people are doing it anyways, i walked in on a couple in public lobby the other day lmao
Then report them
i did not at the time cause i wanted to get out of there way and i dont remember theyre names
and there we go, my trackers and controllers are all charged up
and i cant find one of my foot straps š¢
nvm

when you forget to put on your socks before you put on the straps
mood
I don't think I've ever worn them with socks 
Although I have hard-wood flooring so I'd just slip and go flying out a window or something
That sounds like an experience
Perfect reason to get a rollerskate avatar and wear those socks for the full immersion experience
Not saying I'd pay good money to see that but I'd pay good money to see that
Have a friend of mine that uses Heelies with his FBT and just kinda skrrts around lol
Yeah but like, what will you do when the servers go down at 4 in the morning :(
Breath life into the servers


Lol
That sounds dangerous!
š š š
Okay i give up, what is an unmute and why does it keep cropping up on vrchat website?
Going to need more context then that
Showing avatar does that
I've used security settings but never on a particular person.
just wondering, in VR chat, if i turn my head using the quest 2, does my whole body turn or just my head
and if not how does it figure it out
depends on how much you turn
first your head turns then your body turns when your head can't turn more
ah ok good, so i cant twist my mug off but it doesnt look like im a plank in motion
Zucc will be doing the movements with you
butter dog dog wit da butta
Do Acer Windows Mixed Reality Controllers work with the vive?
no. The only controllers that work with vive are vive wands and valve index controllers
Does anyone have problems with the oculus rift s gettying blackscreened every 10 minutes or so?
My oculus's Display port connection keeps getting lost then it says a key component isn't working
n
I found out what was shorting my pc out, firmal past on the pins smh
houw can i get the brush skin model??
houw can i use ore edit premade one i
to edit it, you need to buy it off of booth.pm. if you just wanna use the base one, select it from the avatar menu
hey does anyone know where I can find Street Fighters Avatar?
Why do some people head out the nearest door when it's time for them to log off? Maybe we should have a bubble that goes pop whenever someone leaves.
Worlds can have log off sounds and animations for players that disconnect
"Slowmode is enabled." I don't recall running into a service before that tried to make a slowdown sound like a feature. š
Does anybody else have problems with Steam Vrchat
as in not being able to log in? yeah.
Also as in, if I click Vrchat the next thing he gives is an error message
I had to use task manager to quit it. I couldn't log in and there was no way out.
You've got my chip, give it back please.
...
Didn't you know, I'm the only chip in VRChat!
Im not that kind of chip, itās just a name
Your fine, i've just got a chip on my shoulder.
I'm going to have to drop that 'c'. Tigerhips has more of a sexy ring to it.
You're amazing!
"Slowmode is enabled." I don't recall running into a service before that tried to make a slowdown sound like a feature. š
@tribal widget you should see how usable this channel is if itās disabled. (Not very, lots of chat flood)ļæ¼
Too many chips in the kitchen.
So the philosophy is, slowing it down makes it more usable. I guess that explains a lot about VRchat... š
Itās not so much slowing it down it just doesnāt let you send repeated messages quickly. Discourages useless messages
The result of the lack of spam is a slower chat scroll, more time to read important messages. Otherwise itās only on screen for half second
So is uploading a udon world with a working VRC user ID blacklist that crashes a blacklisted users game when they try to load the world and on next login changes your avatar against VRC terms or service?
I'd assume so... Crashing
Itās funny how this is on a public world
I log onto different account and join the world and my game does not crash
Imagine being that petty
I have video and logs of this so if any of you vrchat dev people want the logs and the videos of it just dm or something Iāve already submitted report on vrc website
So is uploading a udon world with a working VRC user ID blacklist that crashes a blacklisted users game when they try to load the world and on next login changes your avatar against VRC terms or service?
@vocal shard Is this a rhetorical question
Changing someoneās avatar via udon is not against ToS mind you, but discriminating against specific accounts would be targeted harassment
Well report itļæ¼
Already done bb
im cooking noodles and no one can stop me
This is why we canāt have nice things. If people abuse Udonās ability to detect specific accounts, weāll probably lose it altogether.
It is what it is @languid beacon
How i can create map
Start with an empty scene in unity. Add a cube. Add a scene descriptor to the cube. Now upload it. Youāre done.
im annoyed right now-
ļæ¼youāre right I forgot to say to add the mirror prefab from the example folder
ive got logged out of my account and it wont let me back in, although its not hacked
What does it do when you try to login
it just says "invalid username or password" when ive checked it all 100 percent correct
and ive changed my password a few times but nothing
and how i can create avatar
it just says "invalid username or password" when ive checked it all 100 percent correct
@timber drum Replace username with email.
That's how I log in myself.
no its on the actual game
and how i can create avatar
@blissful elbow Start with a empty scene in unity. Add a cube. Add an avatar descriptor to the cube. Now upload it. Youāre done.
no its on the actual game
@timber drum Yes, put the associated email as the username.
ive done that like 2 times
Fat-fingered without realizing, maybe? I've done that plenty of times.
idk lol
At least you got it working now.
yeah, thanks
No problem. o/
how to create avatar without unity and on vr
?
@everyone how do you make n avatar/ without unity
on vr?
how to create avatar without unity and on vr
@eternal sundial You have to use Unity to make the avatar.
Actually so pumped that vrchat is getting so much activity, 14.4k users online on a tuesday afternoon. 
How do you check that again?
on the right in the user list VRCBot shows how many users are playing rn
!online
There are 14519 users in VRChat currently
Cool
Ah, there it is.

I have no clue what im doing
No one does
Crazy, thereās now double the people during low hours than there was at peak hours when I joined
kiddos with the Quest (2)
Kiddos today are regular users years later
What about the regular users now? What do they turn into years later?
Me
Bored
Trusted Users. 
I mean, I've only been playing VRC for a year and I'm trusted, so the "years later" part doesn't apply to me
Man just 3 months ago I found out about VRChat and oops Iāve been here 2.5 years
Trusted users are the reason we have safety settings
@slate rock trusted users are the example of why the safety system needs less ranks
I'd say mostly known users are the malicious ones
Trusted and known users are the reasons why the safety system exist
Screw this lets make a straw poll
Yeah orange rank is here just long enough to learn how to do bad things but not long enough to learn not to do themļæ¼
Donāt look at me Iām just a normal green user I swearļæ¼
uh oh moooods
Random topic change:
I find it funny how during some of the open betas, the people who are in it get praised for their work, when the majority of them are signed up just to see whats coming next
Well just having people being there increases the odds of bugs being found and reported
Yeah I mean itās not like weāre on payroll or somethingļæ¼
Just having people use your stuff gives you testing
[OBJ] intensifies.
I canāt help it I canāt even see it Iām sorry Iām sorry
I know, am poking fun at it. :P
VRchat is looking for Quality Assurance positions too, so people bug hunting could be looking to apply
I never really understood what that position is
thats probably because im not very smart
Either way thats one way to get paid for doing work
QA are in-house testers and bug finders
I had that position at other places Iād totally apply if I wasnāt full time already
I'd hate to be a QA agent in a game/app I enjoy.
QA positions are interesting
I'd hate to be a QA agent in a game/app I enjoy.
@sharp saddle Iāve done it!
Really? Was it fulfilling? Did it turn you into a nihilist? 
sorry quick question, someone just told me that if you log in with your steam account you cant raise your trust level, can anyone confirm or deny this?
False
Steam accounts can get all the way up to trusted. the only difference is that theyāll never be able to upload content (which normally happens at blue)
oh i see
so if i wanted to test and use an avatar i made i'll have to use a vrchat account then?
Yes. if youāre already on a steam account you can convert itļæ¼ and keep your friends / rank / favorites
In game you can get a code to use on the websiteļæ¼
ah ok, thank you
Both, make a fresh VRC account on the website, log in with your steam account and follow the steps that the website say.
Do not use your VRC account untill you merged it or else data can be lost.
Also im not too sure but i think favorited avatars might vanish from your list. Last time i talked to someone about it that happened to them but that might be fixed by now
There's a button in the Settings menu that generates a token to merge the account to a full VRC account.
Favorites get kept nowļæ¼
Increase the favorites cap, pls.
I had 18 out of 16 favorites for a while. But I couldnāt favorite more until I dropped it to 15ļæ¼
Increase the favorites, remove person to person avatar sharing and add the creators name/world instead.
If all 3 happen id be happy
Just give me Cloneable, Favoritable, and Pedistalable checkboxes on upload thxļæ¼
Make avatar worlds optional for people who wanna show off their avatars but not build an entire world for them.
So many times I've seen a nice-looking avatar but no world associated with it.
World creation is hard and pedestal galleries are cumbersome to work withļæ¼
Premade avatar world where you could just add the ID's and press upload like they had with the old spawn world would be mega dope
Would be nice if you could at least see the pedestal previews in unityļæ¼
It'd also be nice if you could see the avatar in its full glory without having to try it on and look in the mirror. 
Especially on avatars with custom images on them.
That was a thing at one timeļæ¼
Really?
I mean you can still do it manually but you have to import the avatar model into your world project ļæ¼
And then put the pedestal script on it
But yes Iām pretty sure I remember them originally being the actual model standing there.ļæ¼
Donāt know if it was automatic or not, I didnāt know about creating stuff back then
Any oldbies here remember?
They used to show fully yea
Got removed because performance as they all got fully rended while being shown
What wasnt nice when you have like 50 avatars next to eachother kekw
That was also back when Tupper just maintained a manual public world ļæ¼review spreadsheet
So wiggly-jiggly pedestals cost less than full-models then? 
I mean the wiggl jiggl is just a shader. Compared to whatever 30 material, dynamic bone MMd monstrosity it has inside it, yes, it costs less than the model.
Wait, it's a shader? I thought that was how it normally looks?
The water effect on avatar pedistals?
Yeh.
Thatās a shader
Itās kind of there to just universally signify something as an avatar pedestal
So, does anyone know what happens if a public avatar from a third party is being used and then set as private while still equipped?
Long story short a friend is going to upload a custom avatar for me but I don't want just anyone downloading it after they share it with me.
Thanks in advance!
If you clone it off your friend and then your friend sets the model to private, you won't be able to switch into said model
If it's already being worn, will it force me out of it?
So, does anyone know what happens if a public avatar from a third party is being used and then set as private while still equipped?
Long story short a friend is going to upload a custom avatar for me but I don't want just anyone downloading it after they share it with me.
@thin laurel the favorite slot will change to āAvatar Not Avaiableā and you canāt wear it. You can only unfavorite it. If you donāt unfavorite it, and they make it public again later, it will reappear there.
So I assume if I was wearing it during that time (I won't be switching out of it once equipped), it would simply replace my avatar with the default one?
If you were wearing it at the time it went private you would keep wearing it and anyone who was in the room and saw you wearing it would remain seeing you wearing it but new people that come in would see it as an error avatar
Gotchya. Thanks a bunch!
I guess I can just wear it like that until I have the level to upload it myself then they can set it to private.
And once you re-log itās going to be an error avatar for youļæ¼ as well
Perfect, thanks for the explanation.
were can i get avatar with cool animation on ocules vrchat
were can i get avatar with cool animation on ocules vrchat
@molten tartan What kind of animations?
any
Depends on what you're looking for.
Generally screen shaking animations are frowned upon, just FYI.
ok
The best you can do is... do some avatar shopping or go to public worlds and look at other people's avatars.
Click on their avatar with the quick menu open then "View avatar author"; this will usually show worlds made the avatar author and usually can find them here.
My wording is horrible.
is their can avatar that let u become small spider
I'm pretty sure I've seen one but the viewpoint is backwards.
their a world snake way but it need 50.00mb how can i let my oculus allow 50.00mb
Quest or Rift?
quest
My friend is having an odd issue their entire vrchat world vibrates on steamvr. When they use Oculus home version itās fine but they have microphone robot issues so they cope with the steam version vibrating. Itās only VRChat, not SteamVR or any other steam game.
Itās any VRChat world on steam
They use rift cv1
Hm... this is why I use Oculus version of VRC. The jittering is annoying.
wait jittering on steamvr?
Yes. I've seen this happen in my friend's stream with a CV1.
does it happen with rift s or nah
Sometimes.
switching to oculus version cool
It seems like a refresh rate problem.
Donāt know, I have index, but yeah on cv1 steam vibrates and oculus home has mic robot stuttering, fixing either of the issues would be fine, whichever
haha cv1 has robot mic too?
Now I must test this.
laughs in Corsair headset
i thank god don't have the robot mic issue
But CV1 on steam does not mic stutter
but ive heard it alot
Instead you get the whole screen vibrating
that happens to me sometimes
Why is push to talk disabled in vr? That's kinda stupid
Yes I really want hold to talk in vr
because push to talk is an annoying bitch of an option
Still should be the ability to enable it
I canāt leave my mic open because I will echo everyone so because they didnāt give me hold to talk I have to toggle it and I absolutely hate it
Some people like it, some don't, it should be up to the user, not the developer
Just to be clear you absolutely can bind a button to toggle your mic mute, but you canāt do hold to talk.
How long has desktop had push to talk?
Since, like... ever.
Interesting.
Hi :c
Uh... hi.
Hi :c
Good convo!
Lol
Well then.
VRChat moment
A strange one.
VrChAT iN a NuTsHeLL
tbh everyone on this game has been bashed on at least once š
anyone wanna call and paly vr caht
Good job with testing and finally sensible timing of update releases. Tuesday is a great time!
yo yo so im fresh to vr just got it today if anyone wants to jump on with me sometime just run me through some vr chars the ins and out would be amazing
- Large amount of changes to improve performance and reduce overall CPU usage
Oh god I hope

Oh, nice update!
I'm honestly more excited for faster social updates.
Same, I'm on 720 friends
It used to take literal minutes to see the friends list most days.
If I'm lucky I will no longer have to lag every 500ms for 350secons straight until the friendslist is updated
Well, shown, the update is on top of that problem. Always outdated a little too long
Any bugs yet?
"Large amount of changes to improve performance and reduce overall CPU usage" cant you guys focus on the ram leaks?
Does Cinemachine change the exposed stuff? I wanna fix the damn nearclipplane in place at 0.001 with a udon crowbar
Aww, I was hoping for individual volume sliders for other users.
i wish
"allowing creators to adjust the voice and avatar audio of individual users with Udon!" You can if you use noodles
fair
The stuff you can do with it is cool.
That's for worlds, sadly.
the update looks good
vrchat always has a super low framerate despite only using like 15% of my cpu
Tasty worlds
indeed
Hey how come I cant see my friends but I can join there world
One of you need to update
I updated
You're on different versions. Edit: Seems that they didn't
or it needs to load
i think my friends havent updated
After few updates, fist on vive still not working properly, and emotes turning on when you are moving.
Great update.š¤®
@opaque yacht it's been like that for months sadly
it already did that stuff...
i emailed devs,they said they are gonna work on it
I'm hype for the social change
same
"Emotes turning on when you move" did your controls break?
nothing happened
Running Hoppou raids with the previous delay was a hecking nightmare if portals weren't working
At some point I'd mute every time I walked forward, but I fixed it by restarting my client, which was lagging anyway
Absolutely.
UI? more like new-I
..I'm sorry

Yes. From my understanding the UI is entirely being reworked
NICE! They fixed the friends list issue
UI being what you use to, say change avatars in the menu
I have like 8 friends and it took literally 10 mins to update if they were online or offline
I wish there was a way I could tell my friends to update
I'm very interested with what the performance fixes entail
My biggest concern are minor memory leaks, hopefully they are getting further addressed
I haven't had memory leaks in over a year
vrchat update is broken, cant hear others in the same instance
2020.10.28 00:27:39 Log - [USpeaker] uSpeak [2][39056357]: discarding OOO packet: -0.136s behind
2020.10.28 00:27:39 Log - [USpeaker] uSpeak [2][39056443]: discarding OOO packet: -0.068s behind
2020.10.28 00:27:41 Log - [USpeaker] uSpeak [2][39057979]: discarding OOO packet: -0.149s behind
2020.10.28 00:27:41 Log - [USpeaker] uSpeak [2][39058077]: discarding OOO packet: -0.215s behind
2020.10.28 00:27:41 Log - [USpeaker] uSpeak [2][39058165]: discarding OOO packet: -0.194s behind
2020.10.28 00:27:41 Log - [USpeaker] uSpeak [2][39058214]: discarding OOO packet: -0.193s behind
2020.10.28 00:27:41 Log - [USpeaker] uSpeak [2][39058257]: discarding OOO packet: -0.13s behind
2020.10.28 00:27:41 Log - [USpeaker] uSpeak [2][39058345]: discarding OOO packet: -0.2s behind
2020.10.28 00:27:41 Log - [USpeaker] uSpeak [2][39058400]: discarding OOO packet: -0.133s behind
2020.10.28 00:27:41 Log - [USpeaker] uSpeak [2][39058488]: discarding OOO packet: -0.065s behind
f
oh.
I do get a black-screen crash now and then though, but only after getting playspacemover, and I installed it from the Github
Advanced settings is on steam now just install it from there
^
I thought the update was to good to be true
At least the friends list thing is fixed now.....
yeah they dropped the needed CPU load on my computer from 40-50% in desktop mode to 15-20% but if they broke voices then I'm not sure its worth it lol
It doesn't launch with VRC automatically though, but I guess I will try it
I've had No issues reported, that said, there's always going to be issues with an update
I got intrigued when I saw the "cpu performance" part
also, using the quick menu in desktop mode is impossible, the mouse isnt captured inside vrchat anymore and as such moving the mouse up/down makes it go outside the vrchat window and clicking on things in the quick menu is almost impossible
Like OHHH? Our cpu and/or ram won't get swallowed now?
But it could be that the crash is due to going OOM. I never test anymore because I have 32GB ram and kind of forget that it's limited
You may need to fullscreen it, Fusl (alt+enter? messes up the aspect though)
@vocal shard I'm not having that issue
dw we're debugging it rn
@velvet ledge you're not having that issue because you're sending voice via steam networking and not photon
so people falling back from steam networking to photon for voice packets cant hear other people in instances
They may have meant the quick menu thing.
So people can't hear eachother is what I'm reading?
how are the cpu optimizations
The instant snap from standing to crouch/prone is local....
So much for synced IK, lol
Does it still display a wrong location with FBT? Like, when they touch your nose they actually touch your mouth, or vice versa
what atiash said I was talking about the quick menu on desktop
oh
hi
@velvet ledge care to try resizing vrchat such that its a smaller window and then try doing that again?
My mouse locks to the VRC window just fine when I click on it or focus it.
sure doing that now
went down to a 128x128px window on my 1080p display and the mouse doesn't pop out the window at all
Both Win10? The Window composition thingy changes a bit between Windows versions
win10 pro. updated to the most recent version
did smooth crouching get removed with the update? it now snaps again. in a 3.0 avatar
That should be local only.
To be entirely fair, I'm pretty sure account sharing is against the rules
Uploading to the accounts of others is a common, but awful practice. You may be able to appeal your ban by sending a ticket to moderation at https://help.vrchat.com/new.
Hi
Hi im new where do I go to find someone to make youtube videos with me
Self...advertising...?
Im a little sad about my models
I got a quest saturday but my avatars are all pc only
my improv group is having a regular problem with people having to relog due to voices cutting out completely for individuals at seeming random.
I noticed others have mentioned it, but just thought I'd throw that in since I'm speaking for a group of ~30 people.
Things on my avatars like simple firing guns and rigidbody stuff is totally broken now.
Others cant see any of my expression menu animations
same
how do you get an image of your vrc avatar on your pc if you play quest 2 no pc
fiverr? @craggy orbit
currently linking my new quest 2 to my gaming rig. wireless or wired?
@warm sparrow I use virtual desktop, but the quest 2 is still managing some performance issues, have you got your quest 1 handy?
Vrc just blue screened my pc
@viscid whale how do we know?
@viscid whale there is usually a message on your blue screen, VRChat is all userland, bluescreens usually occur in levels higher then userland but it can be triggered by a fault
Oh
Hello
Anyone want to play
so how much was vrc actually optimized? any notable performance changes?
@dry hollow more like fps decreased lmao
what the fuck seriously??
yup
My game crashes as soon as I see other people š
lmao
vrc team great job GREAT UPDATE! š
ššš
crouching is instant again n fps actually rather than getting more fps it decreased lmao
i joined 2 friends in a small world id always get 80-60 fps now its 40 xD
š great update love it
go on update vrchat even more break it even more lmao
the whiny passive aggression isn't helping lmao
its annoying lol most of their updates just breaks the vrc even more š
It really isn't. Doesn't exactly help moral
the solution isn't to be just as annoying dude
If it actually did get worse it will be back again in a few days, but chances are that it's on your end.
I'll go to sleep now
This has actually been a pretty quiet and calm chat this time 
Usually means most aren't having issues
i think people forget the sheer scope of something like vrchat and that it's being led by a small team, imagine piloting the world's biggest VR hangout with nothing but user generated content and having to make sure everything stays in working order

yeah it's frustrating when shit breaks but berating the devs who're trying to manage this behemoth of a product isn't helpful in the slightest
Growing pains are normal.
Usually means most aren't having issues
@vocal shard i hope so, i'm gonna hop on soon and see what's going on
Software is shit, especially other peoples software. VRChat rely on others stuff (for instance Unity, Steam, Proton) so it can't be helped
I do programming, which recently means "configure some other peoples undocumented shit", lol
Relly though, I'll sleep now
with the freedom to upload whatever you want comes exponentially more instability
g'night dude
these kinds of things always come with a balancing act between freedom and stability, that's just in the nature of it
avatar 3.0 breaking due to social focused update so incompetent omegalul
Does anyone know why I am not becoming a New User?
Okay so quick question is anybody vrc having issues with joining their friends world and not seeing them?
update the game
social focused update? a big bullet point is that they tried ironing out performance.. that could mean any number of things that also tied into 3.0 functionality accidentally
Usually means most aren't having issues
@vocal shard Other than locomotion is completely broken for sdk3 avatars upon updating the sdk following the update guide https://i.imgur.com/keDx6h4.png
nothing really bad
guarantee that anyone calling the devs incompetent doesn't have the slightest idea about complex game development, not to mention massively multiplayer game development
i didnt say that, just a bug š¤·
naw that wasn't directed at you
ah
Is the bug that drops the audio still broken from the update?
finaly performance update
ill make a new project just incase. if its the same issue, imma assume its an sdk bug
i do wonder if anyone's actually noticed any better performance
do note that the performance updates are cpu-targeted; if your gpu wasn't keeping up with the game, that won't be fixed here
at least fps doesnt die when going in the menu because you have alot of friends
Hey, this might sound dumb but i think i activated some kind of setting that removes a bunch of animations like crouching and stuff
I think the performance improvements were focused on the menu mainly because I didn't notice the difference
My Camera snaps aggressively to the different positions
I also have an accessibility symbol next to my avatar compatibility icons
what does that even do?
i think i broke something quite bad because even a reinstall wont fix it
Alright listen
Wake up to reality... Nothing ever goes as planned in this accursed world. The longer you live, the more you will realize that the only things that truly exist in this reality are merely pain, suffering and futility. Listen... Everywhere you look in this world, wherever there is light, there will always be shadows to be found as well. As long as there is a concept of victors, the vanquished will also exist. The selfish intent of wanting to preserve peace, initiates wars. And hatred is born in order to protect love. There are nexuses causal relationships that cannot be separated.
-Madara Uchiha
ok but that doesnt help me right now at 2am trying to fix vr chat
naruto cringe
XD
@west saffron what icon? screenshot and paste into #general-media?
yep, avatar sdk3 broken
even with a clean project, it has 2 t-pose options instead of t-pose and ik-pose
https://hastebin.com/odofuzifoq.apache this comes up, but not sure if its related or not
can i like... show you the broken crouching?
actually there is no VC here that might be a problem
nice to see thsi update broke vrchat
I just want to be able to press the c button and be able to crouch with decent timing instead of flapping everywhere
Also my router just died what the frick
Oo revive it so you can have an undead router
I don't think I'll have Wi-Fi until tomorrow
That kinda sucks
I'm not even sure if any of the update that came out recently had anything to do with player movement and whatsoever
I guess something just stopped working
Anyway it's to 16 so I'm probably going to go sleep
Hopefully one of the game notices that crouching has decided to self-destruct for some people by tomorrow
How can I take a picture of my avatar and use it as a pfp?
@modern sand The new vrchat update does not let me clone
you play for 23h, how did you restart for the update
oh ok
they did
having the same issue as aaron
it might be a quest glitch
me and them are on desktop
funny enough, my friend can clone my avatar but i cant clone theirs. and another friend can clone theirs but not mine
its not a glitch, its an update bug
shhh they'll get irritated hearing you bash their buggy game
shore
Wonder if we'll get banned for being tired of this shit lmao
harassing them would get a ban, but complaining about bugs wont
Telling the truth is ok
Taunting is not
i mean we're the beta testers, right
its early access
its early access with a beta specifically to find bugs in said buggy update
Dude this game has been out for years, it can't use the excuse of Early Access anymore
idk if no ones playing beta to find the bugs or they just dont happen in beta for some reason
or theyre not listening, but i wouldnt accuse the devs of that
I'mma say this. The fact that this game started in roughly 2015 yet they still can't program well at all when they have a HUGE team, fucking google, and an entire community of bug reporters is abysmal. Just give this game to people who can do the job right.
I love vrchat
So it's conflicting for me xD
I love the game's concept. The execution... Not so much.
what can they say? they're working on it or busy
They don't usually read this
It's too much
And that's reasonable
if any of em came in and was like we're working on it, we'll still bitch about it
cant imagine all the DMs they're getting
even redpill's status is saying hes not replying
why are so many people having troubles with the update...?
They shouldn't get dms for that
cause its buggy af
someone having problems that ppl cant se ur handgetsures i vive or ur toggles
more like 2017
it was developed?
welp
Sameeee. I thought they just gave up and let some homeless people run the game.
I agree it's not a good job
But I feel bad for any reading this :s
lol
@little rampart ive never seen someone else with their avatars for their pfp lol
look at it this way, malkor
Same. They have so many resources yet they're failing terribly. It's depressing.
we're the actual beta testers, so we have to complain or they wont know about the bugs ^^
I just liked the photo too much xD
Yeah
But let's not forget they are human as well
They're not humans. They're chimpanzees.
yes
I have always complained and I have a really bad opinion about them
But I remain mostly refrained
ew
Remember when they added the trust system? Damn, that was actually dreadful.
Speaking the truthhh
how much better are frames now?
Hey, VRChat. Instead of making a new programming language for your game. Maybe you should finish learning how to code?
Avatar 3.0 was probably the only good thing I've seen come out of VRC in the last two years, but now they broke that lmao
New update broke some of my 3.0 toggles and audio lul
VRChat going through Benjamin Button syndrome
Remember to read the full release notes. It mentions a change to 3.0 regarding write defaults to be more standardized going forward, but some previous made avatars might not work correctly
People don't get banned for criticism. Just toxic attitudes
You should ban some of your devs then.
How much optimization did they do?
Its pretty huge of they're working on multityreading and gpu offloading
And all the bitching is irrelevant compared to the importance of them fixing vrchat true glaring faults
Which it seems like they're doing now
@rapid veldt seems like they're working on getting an actual team together, before vrchat was a side project
I'll save my judgement for 4 years
anyone else getting the problem of not bein able to hear some to all people in an instance?
Tbh. They should've planned their game from the beginning rather than having this mess.
@coarse vigil Have you updated your app? and have the other people?
They should've aborted this with a coat-hanger while they still had the chance
DAMN
my games updated
Yeah the main issues were cause by vrchat starting as a quick slap together of unity components but you guys will SCREECH of they do a rewrite and break the glow in the dark tda avatars
I also see the other side. When they work late or drop what they're doing to fix an issue, and the passion that some of them genuinely have.
Often there's more on the background that is going on, and the bugs we see are just left over stuff that isn't as much of a priority at the moment.
Any significant issues are almost always fixed asap
and i see the other people complaining about it so theyve updated as well
also, they couldnt have planned because vrchat started literally as a college project
Its a free game and they'll fix it like they always do when this happens
They should've killed the game when the Knuckles meme was around. They let them self go harder than my IQ did when this update dropped.
Why do you think they're not working to fix it now
All I care about is multityreading and it seems like they're working on doing that
Keep in mind the people here that are bitching actually attempt to make unique content instead of rather slapping together a new black-jackete'd fox boy/girl with glowing ears
None of that is as important as them fixing the frame issues
Me?
I use a booth avatar
I was being hyperbolic
also, they couldnt have planned because vrchat started literally as a college project
@coarse vigil Yes, they could've. I'm pretty sure you could figure out how to plan a SOCIAL game when you're in COLLEGE of all places.
Am I the only PC player that can only speak to people who are on quest?
Booth is a website you can buy models and other goods
so no one has the issue of not hearing others after the update?
Very popular in the JP community of VRC
Booth is a shopping site (JP)
Am I the only PC player that can only speak to people who are on quest?
@vocal shard No, everyone can talk to Quest players.
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also its not like they intended for it to be a game or popular, was just an experiment that slowly interested more and more people'
I can only talk to Quest players, Iām on PC and only Quest players can hear me
All I'm saying is yeah they messed up voice etc but they're working on fixing the glaring optimization problems rust the community seems to completely ignore in a large part
And nobody is even mentioning that
Those who have no issues will not be heard from, those who have issues will. That's why you hear many negative things.
I am a verified complaining autist and even im saying they're working on the biggest issue vrchat has in it's entirety
There will be a patch by the morning probably
So wtf is VRC gonna do about crashers anyway? Most TDS base models are stereotypically (and proven so) to be used for crashers and no one does a damn thing about it
Or tomorrow
are people whining about their eboy avatars again
@halcyon dome we used to not have safety settings
You would be in the pug and your screen would turn into shock pictures
help an emote i have on my avatar goes into the motercycle pose when i toggle it even though it just changes a material
They did fix crashers pm
Honestly
The biggest issue vrchat has is people with harmful modified clients and hackers going around with no repercusion
And a lack of an actual moderation system for toxic players
That
Is the real issue vrchat has
^
Would you have sex with random people without a condom? Don't run around with avatar animations on
for once I agree
They shouldn't be able to do as they do anyway
Thag they were worse is not the point risky
Imagine having someones Avatar hidden and then they have a RAM crasher that causes you to have to get a new headset because it did irreversible damage
OwO
Yes
Oh they did Bucko š
They worst they could do was crash your headset and give people seizures
I had to use my warranty for a new headset entirely
That's a heavy proof needed
In any case
If the avatar is hidden and they can still crash your game
Oh Boi that security is great I would say
That's a new one
everytime my headset would start it crashed two minutes later with a black screen, loud beep, and hand tracking stuck in the floor that is only resetable with my pc being restart
They can crash worlds
Are you sure your headset didn't just get messed up
I had that but it was due to a bad gpu overclock @halcyon dome
Crasher kiddies can't touch your hardware
It didnt happen UNTIL I ran into that ram crasher
I don't overclock any of my shit tbh
This is like those email chains in the 90s telling your about viruses that could turn your pc into a bomb
I know
Happened to me thus morning
I had someone blocked
And they still kicked me out of the world with a modified client
Again
This is security ladies and gentleman
They didn't fix that yet?
can vrchat do an update that doesn't cause more pc problems for me, I think not sadly!
wew this update is a real winner, hot damn.
Modified client exploits are constantly fixed, but the modders and crashers usually have more time and a larger community working against the team to keep making more stuff
Wait
I remember now. They didn't kick me out of the world
No no no
They straight up closed my game
Jaime
If you put an actual security system
A bunch of kiddos won't break it so easily
Jaime
If you put an actual security system
A bunch of kiddos won't break it so easily
@little rampart Tell that to every single piece of software ever.
Tell that to the ps3
If it exists, people will hack it.
Yo
Is anyone having server issues recently?
everyone

Random question, has anyone else's crouch changed? Usually my crouch is like an animation and my view goes from standing to crouching, but now it's instant, no animation or anything. Anyone know what might be up with that?
Broken update happened
animations too
Oh I thought it was just me, I wish I had a number for how many people I've blocked its gotta be lik 1500
Oh I thought it was just me, I wish I had a number for how many people I've blocked its gotta be lik 1500
Nop, dealt with around 10 blocked users who could hear me and I could hear em, seen one glitch in and out when blocked too, like avatar flickering kinda.
Bro I thought I hit the uper limit bro and VRchat was like nah man Cant keep up lol
I had to go back and mute them too
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We are used as the beta test lol
several people are typing
Sure but they don't have near the numbers they need to Beta test. Why would anyone waste their time, They need to add an incentive
Had to cancel my event so that was pooey :c
my animations and gestures break on sdk3
Main thing with their current beta test method is that it's quite a hassle to get going
Oh I thought it was just me, I wish I had a number for how many people I've blocked its gotta be lik 1500
Good idea to clean up your blocklist, and just reblock again. š¤·āāļø Unless you know some of them should never be unblocked again obviously.
How would I clean up my blocklist?
Unblock em all, one by one?
Then block once you run into em again or something
Chances are 50% or more are people you've seen once or twice only.
I have Blocked Thousands of people probably
Unless that button on the website acctually clears the block list
AddisonM? 
No
Oh.
Reported for DOxxing RREEEEEEE
hmmm
can yall yeeyee ass devs at least revert crouching
You sus Crayyon
Can I pay with pineapples?
Pineapple Inside
Bro I mean Devs are Bad they can't even keep that one moron Solious Banned or Blocked from their game. how hard can it be
Technically devs don't moderate a game
Real Big Brain there Crayyon
VRChat machine broke.
Big facts. now its time for the hacker bois to come out of hiding and taking advantage of that shit. Big rip
I hope they fix it
when we getting battle eye for VRC
block works fine for me
you have to block everything but voices. Even if I left voices and avatars without animations and shaders etc, I was crashed anyway.
You can be crashed even if you disable everything
I've yet to experience any single of the issues others have been reporting
I'm very happy with this update
If I hold a gesture that enables an audio source and then do any other gesture with my other hand it resets the audio
okay so blocking people still lets you hear them and vice versa XD
have you tried the tried and true method of unblocking and reblocking?
funnily enough, that tends to resolve any issues I've experienced with the blocking system
It shouldn't be an issue in the first place
and?
it's an issue, bitching about the fact that it shouldn't be an issue doesn't help anything
i just find it funny tbh
i can imagine the amount of confusion people will face with this
Oh I wasn't complaining about that one, I'm just annoyed that I now have to wait for them to fix everything so my avatars work properly again
it's possible, that said, you expect these issues to persist without resolution
It shouldn't be an issue in the first place
that's complaining
they'll resolve the issues
I think you misunderstood what I meant, I was just saying that an important basic feature of the game shouldn't be an issue. I've been on the game for over 3 years so I know they'll fix major problems fairly quickly.
vrchat might be working with ubisoft
fix 1 thing break 10 others
is it just me or is the friend sync not really any better? still takes awhile for it show where my friend moved to
lets just point out how many years did it take to get a friends list that doesnt update every other blue moon
it seemed to break my friends list all together. I see people that haven't been online in days but don't see people that are online with me
Voice audio is randomly stop working.
So everything is broken, nothing unusual for Vrc :V
all of 3.0
No rollback yet
Gestures, emotes, voices, so much more
@zenith pumice legs being weird again. One of my avatars legs are broken again
Try the open beta. Some are saying it's fixed there now
nice
my audio is still looping on gestures/animations
there also seems to be another "beta" in the beta list i havent seen, "souffle" or something
Ive never had so much fun fuckign with people ont his update. I keep being like can't hear you can you hear me. And they think I can't hear them talk anymor eit's great.
Also if you mute people you can hear them talk sometimes too, makes sense.
Heyo
would it be possible to like, undo the update? it seems like it has completely broken everything
@storm pilot not gonna happen
Quick question: Can people experience submissions from Spookality 2020?
The worldrow is live, yes
just wait 3 months for the bugfix to come out š
Great. Is there a certain link to this to find it or? @vocal shard
Just scroll down in the worlds menu a tiny bit š you should be able to spot it super easily!
Thanks! You too
@storm pilot what broke? couldnt test it out yet
for me? my animations don't show up to other people, and if I do the recommended fix it causes all animations to kinda... stack
hm
Also....some avatars doesnt move their heads or crouch.
But if you disable the writer in the descriptor sdk i guess it would fix the issue.
Not sure yet, didnt test it.
if an avatar cant crouch its usually because the hands arent rigged properly, at least from what ive tested
no idea why this is the case but yep.
ive done it, and ive had it fix the issue
Ooohh. Then i hope it work in my case haha, you never knows, every avatar had its own issues haha
like, i had a penguin model i found and i had to ad invisible hand bones too it
so it could crouch
and that fixed it
Nicee! Im glad it fixed, im gonna try that then.
I hope it work in my case, thanks for the help
no problem
yeah you need finger bones even on avatars that have no hands
thanks for the confirm
The blocking system is broken as well, We just tested it out me and some friends and upon a block you could still hear one another but not see each other.
Is anyone else having this issue from the update. Cant see other models gestures or emotes. Randomy cant hear people or they can't hear you. And people in full body are lagging more when they move then when they don't. As well as if your in full body and are on the ground your head and chest will not move.
Iām having problems as well I join someone and yet when I look at the world list and Iām the only one in the world
Vrchat please fix this bc I have alot of people saying the same thing in pub worlds and as well as through my streams
Yeah random people can't hear eachother
I had to join and rejoin again to hear audio
lolol why am I not surprised
Szme here
They're working on it
Also I hate that you have to update the sdk bc I lost alot of my old model files and I cant use my models anymore bc I moved pc
Any ways does anyone here dance in vrchat? I need more dancers for hip hop shuffle ect in my grouo
so I just found that social list still breaks now and then, had my social refuse to update and even invites wouldn't go through to get me to the world my friends left for. had to restart vrc again.
Audio keeps breaking
The devs know about the bugs folks, do a quick search to make sure it hasnāt been mentioned before you post an issue, otherwise youāre just spamming chat w/o helping
so should I NOT update my sdk and wait for a fix or..
My audio keeps messing up any ways to fix that since the update fucked that up?
read 2 messages above
Ree
big ree
so uh, can y'all stop pushing updates on weekends and right before major holidays?
correct. it's right before a major holiday though.
Huh?
Oh... Yeah I forgot that was happening

for halloween can you just like
idk do something funny
remove the avatar system and make everyone robots
That'd piss everyone off.
i know but seeing people pissed off is so funny
Yeeeeah... no. Horrible idea.
best idea ever
not when you spend hours on making an avatar
^
still would be funny
i think spook's on the dev team, if they think seeing ppl pissed off is funny
if i was on the dev team
this game would have no lag, and there would be 9 trust ranks
is everyones avatar broken too?
theres a bunch of shit broke with 3.0 avatars
ah yes, 9 trust ranks, because we don't have enough colors of the rainbow in people's nametags as is.
nah nah like
to get trusted user you actually have to get it from vrchat admin
you dont just get it bc you friended 1000 people
that would make more sense
my visemes are broken for most my avis 3.0 isnt syncing, nit showing for others
some of my fav list 3.0 avis are so broken ppl cant see the whole avi
yeah this update broke most everything somehow
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where do I go to report bugs?
the canny is the best place for that https://vrchat.canny.io/bug-reports
just mute your friends then you can hear them talk ez pz
Except when even that doesn't work
I can't upload a video to it
And then some skiddie uses a chair bug known since 2018 to crash the instance.
I would like to have a video to explain it
is there anywhere else where I can report bugs in the Discord?
not really no
sorry if this isnt the place to ask this but im stuck in afk mode and cant move even after i calibrate all my trackers?
best bet is the canny but it will most likely be ignored.
I think my friend had that same issue last night
have you tried restarting
yeah
uhhh have you tried disabled the afk animation mode thing?
You can disable AFK detection in the Action Menu, that can happen if a headset's proximity detector isn't working correctly
Is anyone else having the problem where people can't hear you and you can't hear certain people?
Blame the update for that fuck up
I mean i wanted to know if others were having the problem. Cause I updated it and after the update none of my friends could hear me. and I then couldn't hear my friend wave so i then went on the quest, and then I could hear wave but none of my friends could hear me at all.
Is anyone else having the problem where people can't hear you and you can't hear certain people?
@random yew some are yes
Yes! Some people are having that issue.
Hokage dattebayo
Yep, we're aware of issues with voice. Will be working to fix them ASAP!
For someone re-joining the world fix that.
Yep, we're aware of issues with voice. Will be working to fix them ASAP!
@placid umbra wait u work with vr chat wow dude sugoooyyy
not to be mean about this or anything but eveerry single update manages to break something... i dont see how something like this could be missed
wont lie playing among us on vrchat was a pain cause i could only wave my arms around hoping for the best lol.
does the update come out separately for steam?
steam doesn't show the new update as available :s
anyonee going to buy the new goat vr headset?
doesn't look like a headset to me
I mean the new DecaGeat headset
if its real
So how many people get on the Beta servers when those are available? It seems like every major update recently has broken something and I can only imagine that's a result of insufficient testing.
not a lot, maybe a dozen?
havent tried the new update yet, but are 2.0 avatars affected too?
i only heared about 3.0 being broken
Same
shit, now i have to hop on and test my 3.0s >~<
The first frame for dances and audio sources loop.
So it sounds like you're playing an Atari game when they play
Same.
The screenspace shaders work no problem though
You think it has to do with toggle animations?
Or transition time
Agreed
I thought people were just exaggerating how bad this update was but it actually killed 3.0 avatars
are the issues with random animations not functioning correctly also due to the update?
I'm vibin now because I got a nanachi getting made for me
And its gonna be like a racoon
And will have a spray bottle to spray onto people
So when they gunna fix 3.0 avatars?
š¤·āāļø
epic
hi?
In this situation most devs would roll back the update and play test it more before pushing it again ||but most devs would have actually play tested it||
there was an open beta, you could have tested it yourself
there is absolutely no need to go against the devs when they provided an open beta for everyone
do we just have to wait untill this is fixed for everything to work again`?
devs are human
Obligatory message about everything I made is broken right now
like give it a moment
Iām not even mad itās early access Iām sure it will get fixed or we will be told how to fix it
Either works for me
Sometimes things need to be broken if they want a new way for things to be done
wellbare you a dev to know that
@jolly plume its not that simple
no
like they have to pass certification and stutt
Heās right rolling back in update would actually be pretty simple honestly. But itās ignoring the real problem.
you cant just push a "rollback" button
hi
Hi!
can i mone my hand in vrchat pc
if you know everything better, why dont you go ahead and make your own game?
wym, Tupper literally has a big red button on his desk that says rollback
move
I would just like to confirm that steam does in fact have a rollback button
Oculus, I donāt know
https://bertwagner.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/233da-1wccncrcdusku7im34r58lg.jpeg leaked image from Tuppers home
There is no process. Steam just automatically downloads a new update that is actually a down date
oh no! a bug that is in for 10 hours!
Have you considered the thought that the devs are asleep
laughs in loading and spike lags
there are much worse things than animations not working honestly
Sorry but maybe I just got lucky here and I am underestimating the scope of the issues but is it not just actions that are broken and everything else is working perfectly
just hope that it gets patched soon and not soonā¢ļø
the game runs better than 3 years ago
it will be broken for like 3 days and than they will patch it
its 10 hours! give them a day or 2 atleast! be more patient!
Why not assume they will fix it and if your inpatient make a new blueprint and fix it yourself in the meantime
and giving up the performance improvements? hell no!
is the performance improvement actually noticable
well
People get pretty upset over a free game
you have no idea of game development, do you?
as a low end user with an i3 7100U yes
still stupid that they rolled out two broken updates in a row now. Like it was clearly not done and they knew it. I have nothing against them I just dont understand why they do this.
getting better framerates
i tested 5 different avatars, both 2.0 and 3.0, and none of them were broken at all
i used to run pub at 20, it now runs at 40
Think the real solution here is that steam should give some sort of warning on the game page that the game is not finished yet and might have updates that break stuff maybe we could call it ā early accessā or something
there is an early accees warning thing on steam
i just noticed they got rid of the smooth transition from crouch to standing etc
Oh what a coincidence
so whats broken right now?
For me the only thing that is broken is avatar three custom actions and locomotion layers
i see
none of the mentiond stuff is actually game breaking
thne line between early access anf open beta is very blurry, unless they are actuslly the same thing
What Iām saying is anything involving animator tracing control is a bit screwy, and only for some people




