i need a developer for this bug
#vrchat-general-2
loud lintel
Hmm?
vocal shard
are the avatars when i put some avatar if the avatar have more detail the bug is more
maybe bc i have a Gt 210 lol
:d
Wtf
loud lintel
Ohh
vocal shard
A g710
loud lintel
Trevor why are you everyone
vocal shard
210*
Suprised that pc is even alive
Next youre gonna say it is a cpu from 2004
have 8 ram and pentium gold 3.5 ghz
Its a 40 buck gpu
lol i put a avatar and the game crased
crashed
Where did you get this compooter
loud lintel
Well that explain things
vocal shard
which its the problem?, the gt 210?
Idk what the cpu is
Its probably the whole computer
loud lintel
Yeah
vocal shard
Can you open it and let me see the components inside
idk how
Huff Ok im gonna move to pms for this one
loud lintel
Haha
loud lintel
Idk
loud lintel
Some people were having a problem like that a bit back
vocal shard
it was happening to me two days ago as well but my internet is fine
loud lintel
Hm I’m not sure how to fix it but I know there’s a way
vocal shard
Kids need to learn cheap pc = it isnt gonna run much
Lesson be learned
Build your own pc
Not yours
Someone elses
loud lintel
Yeah trevor isn’t talking about yours I’m pretty sure
vocal shard
Idk what your specs even are or what you paid
.> But I wouldn't mind hearing~~~
xd I'm jk
@loud lintel
loud lintel
Yeah?
vocal shard
Whats your.. specs :d
loud lintel
Oh I have no idea lmao
vocal shard
:(
loud lintel
Idk a think about computers tbh
vocal shard
Looook at it
loud lintel
Just got a decent pc so I happy
vocal shard
Gimme info
loud lintel
Nah I’m lazy
loud lintel
Also it’s 1 am so you can get it another time
vocal shard
Now or else
loud lintel
1AM NO
loud lintel
FUCK
vocal shard
;-;
loud lintel
I want to sleep
vocal shard
Gimme data then sleep uwu
loud lintel
No I just sleep
loud lintel
Yay
loud lintel
Nooo
vocal shard
With no data to cronch monch on
loud lintel
Be with someone
vocal shard
Too late 3:
boreal sky
Hey guys I have bad news for me
jagged arrow
Getting a 16GB RAM card to add to my 8GB RAM, now VRChat won't take up exactly half of my RAM
Actually less, that's probably why it's so laggy and slow, and crashes a lot when I use Virtual Desktop on my Quest
(Because the Quest version is limited af, I'd rather use the PC version)
cold talon
Wait wait wait, what did I just read
modern harbor
Lmao.
vocal shard
My head
vocal shard
I need pats after seeing that
modern harbor
🧠🔨
azure ivy
looking for a vrchat developer please dm me
dim elk
I'm constantly getting timed out in vrchat T_T
azure ivy
I need a combat system. Feel free to dm me.
vocal shard
Dev isn't gonna dm you
fading epoch
are you talking someone who just knows their way around VRC or an actual developer of the game?
fading epoch
There's actually already sorta a combat system within VRC's stuff. it's specific to worlds only though.
dim elk
Then you ask for a vrc tutorial helper 😉
azure ivy
I just wanted someone who knows how to make a combat system that I could use for a rpg game.
fading epoch
ahh i see
azure ivy
@dim elk I don't see anyone with that rank
fading epoch
ask around in #udon-general
dim elk
@azure ivy You need to ask the community members not the staff. They help out with it faster in response.
azure ivy
WDYM
I never asked for staff
I said dev wtf
If dev automaticly means a staff who works for vrchat then this server is twisted
rancid vessel
Is VRChat having issues tonight? I keep having issues where I get the timed out sound but don't see any message and i am instantly reloaded into the same world
twin fractal
your profile pic. I played that eroge
strange drift
Stuck in an endless loop while trying to login to VRChat. anyone ever had an issue with it unable to resolve when trying to look up if you are temp banned (I am not banned, verified that)
vocal shard
reinstall maybe
strange drift
fresh install sadly. ty though
tidal kestrel
Does anyone know where I can get my hands of a old school runescape avatar?
jagged arrow
Poor axel doesn't know how ram works
@vocal shard "Poor Axel"
You could have just simply explained and pinged, rather than being condescending
No...
To make me feel bad? Well, that's assumptious.
I don't get upset at people being condescending
ocean lark
Does anyone know of a world, we can't remember it. It starts with disturbing audio of people saying to enjoy your coma or something. and you took a roller coaster down to this mono chromatic city like area, andd there was grey kon's around peaking corners, and random places you can walk in, from mazes, or avatar rooms, etc. Idk. We've been looking forever and I'm sure I found it in the new tab a while back, so chances are I'll never find it again. Idk where to ask, so I'm asking here just incase.
fierce crater
Need some help cant change avatars. When this avatar loads the menu is unusable
odd lark
if your talking about an endless loop upon launching, then im getting the same
vocal shard
yea
vocal shard
so no fix?
devout root
This looks like it’s server-side, so I’d imagine not, unless you guys know a way to change the default login server?
fierce crater
Doesn't help me. Mine totally different
vocal shard
I can't see any issue on my end. You guys still having problems?
odd lark
yeah
fierce crater
Mines an actual avatar issue
devout root
Looks like it’s a Photon problem. Photon appears to be a multiplayer middleware engine VRC uses and is having problems.
cobalt garnet
okay good. Looks like I'm not the only one experiencing the endless loop issue. lmao
devout root
No it’s a thing. But it happened right after I changed my pw so I’ve been running around in circles.
cobalt garnet
ah
i havent changed my password and I'm having the issue so dw. it'd probs not your password
upper cradle
gotr hacked is ur prob;lemo
had it happen long ago endless loop when hacker is on ur vr n then its fine again
vocal shard
Anyone wanna hangout 🥺🖤
upper cradle
justlike tryin be on vrchat on pc n then get on quest u cant it does that so i sugest change ya passwords cas sumone is on ur account
devout root
I changed my pw three times and can log into the VRC website just fine. Error logs show a server problem with Photon/ExitGames
I think my user data (as well as that of some others) lives on a sever that’s f-ed right now.
vocal shard
If you're worried about someone hacking into your account, maybe consider activating 2FA
opaque locust
I'm having the same issue and it tells me to check internet connection
vocal shard
can someone make a avatar quest compatible for me? all the tutorials i watched never showed how to put a avatar in unity
is someone able to clone it and make it compatible for me-
devout root
I’m not hacked, there’s a server connection problem. It’s in the error logs.
cobalt garnet
server connection problem? do i just gotta wait it out?
cuz I've changed my password and even tried login in via steam instead of the oculus client and I still get the same error.
earnest swift
It might be? If the problem sticks with you even if you use different accounts them I don't know what it could be, sorry
cobalt garnet
it's okay. thank you for trying to help though. 🙂
probs just bad island server connections
happens
earnest swift
was it working before?
cobalt garnet
i had tested a model in vrchat and exited out to fix a sizing issue real quick. took 20 minutes max and then the looping started
devout root
OK I fixed it go ahead and go into the VR chat website and reset to default avatar!
void quarry
How do I add my own custom avatars/skins
earnest swift
how long have you been playing?
void quarry
Maybe around a year
earnest swift
go to the vrchat website, log in, go to avatars, and then add a custom avatar. Sorry if it isn't very accurate im doing it off the top of my head lol
earnest swift
Yea, you can find free avatars or commission someone to make you one :D
earnest swift
np
vestal bloom
My game was working fine a few weeks ago, but now it's wi-fi is absolute shite. I have no idea why since there is nothing wrong with my internet connection
vocal shard
its server issue
vestal bloom
oh
vocal shard
yeah idk its letting my friends in
vestal bloom
Then i will wait another day for it to calm down
umbral wyvern
So my VRChat doesnt let me inv or recieve invites, doesn’t let me save avatars, always crashes, doesn’t let me turn on quest users’ avatars more than 60% of the time, why is it so broken?
void quarry
would anyone be willing to let me get an avatar and if you can't its ok I can't pay so if you want payment Im not your guy
hybrid prism
My vr is stuck at the loading screen.
vocal shard
was the loading screen loop happening yesterday too because i just started playing vr chat again and i wanna know about when ill be able to play again
weary jungle
go to #user-support-old to get help
hybrid prism
Yes it was happening for me aswell yesterday @vocal shard
shy wigeon
im not sure where to ask this but for the Spookality thing am i correct to believe that you can only make one submission? like either an avatar or a world, not both?
thin ember
Imagine not crashing in a stable world.....
clever jay
Should i play waiting game cuz i tried everything i can...
vocal shard
hey... is there a way to access the tutorial? i signed up and think it skipped it?
clever jay
U can just go throught the potal there!
vocal shard
in my house bit?
stone current
i wonder why sometimes people are really stuttery ingame even with like 90 ping and decent fps
nocturne olive
Anyone here try the quest 2 with vrc yet?
true lantern
alpine obsidian
Is anybody else haveing the issue of avatars not loading at all?
they aren't loading in my menu
nocturne olive
There's alot of reviews on YouTube for it tho
alpine obsidian
also hasen't there been testers?
yeah I think there has been a youtuber who showed a small bit of footage from it
yeah.
ALSO- Like I said- is anybodys personal avatars not loading? the list I see only shows the public and legacy and so avatars, but my personal list doesn't show up
lapis ether
Why I keep hearing “that person is an veteran”. “That person is an legendary user.” Is that a mod thing people would see?
broken plover
the people that say "that person is a veteran/legendary" are people with modded clients. If you see them, record them if possible to report them (altough I don't know if that would be proof enough that theyre using modded clients)
lapis ether
There would be no evidence though but only people would say that
rough pulsar
Not nessecarily. It's fairly trivial to find out if someone has veteran rank without breaking any of VRChat's rules.
If they are using a client mod to see it then that obviously is breaking the rules, but to say anyone saying who is/isn't what rank like that isn't a guarantee of client mod use.
ruby needle
Even if it's unlikly people would check that in the background for every user, the possibility is there so it's sadly no definite prove of anything
vocal shard
Hello p2
small wing
I always wondered this, why does legendary rank even exist if its not visible?
Seems a bit redundant if you ask me
vocal shard
It's just left over from before isn't it
small wing
If it is, seems really messy just to leave it in there.
vocal shard
When veteran (legendary) was removed, they said they may use it in the future for something
`veteran was intended to show users who have contributed greatly to VRChat, and to give them something to show off. However, the implementation wasn’t perfect and a bit out of scope considering the purpose of the Trust and Safety System, so we’re pulling it back into design.
Veteran users are still highly valued, and we will store the data necessary to identify them`
small wing
Honestly I never was one to care about praise if that is what that means.
rough pulsar
However, the implementation wasn’t perfect and a bit out of scope
That's backpedal speak for "it turned out to be a terrible idea"
vocal shard
Lol
small wing
I'm torn when it comes to ranks, I get its implementation but its a bit backwards considering how it backfired.
vocal shard
Yeah I would still like ranks hidden unless you open your menu
rough pulsar
Had they implemented the performance limiter first, large amounts of the rank system would have been widely regarded as unnessecary.
small wing
The one thing I would 100% be fine with is "praising" streamers and content creators with a custom rank wink wink
rough pulsar
Not like streamers need any more smoke blown up their arse to be honest.
vocal shard
Don't need more ego boosts 
small wing
That way I wont have to worry about being on random joe's stream talking about things that i really dont want more than 10 people hearing
frosty veldt
Most streamers would avoid the rank since that just makes them a target
small wing
Fair point
vocal shard
and yeah I agree about never being sure who's recording you. But maybe an opt in "live" tag
small wing
Ive been in a fair bit of friends plus instances with streamers, so its hard to avoid. But honestly I just need to ask if people are streaming more.
vocal shard
But a rank.... No
rough pulsar
Oh man, think of the cognitive dissonance with that. They want the special rank, but oh shit it paints a big fuckoff target of "run up to me and scream racist shit"
ruby needle
I would love if you could toggle a video option and have a small cam icon appear on the nametag or something
but else
no custom ranks, cus what for 😄
frosty veldt
Honestly I just assume that I'm being recorded in VRC unless im alone tbh
rough pulsar
Or with people you trust not to
lilac swan
You could relatively easily set up a "Now Live" image around your nameplate which you can toggle on/off already, no need to put it in the game client
small wing
I assume i'm being recorded even if i'm alone 😳
rough pulsar
I don't use any facebook devices so I don't have to have that assumption
frosty veldt
Problem with an on avatar solution is that your avatar can be hidden
small wing
@lilac swan How is that supposed to work with safety settings?
mellow palm
I havent played vrchat in a while, whats the best way to get into it again
I honestly have no clue where to begin
lilac swan
What? What do you mean?
ruby needle
If it just where Facebook only 
Your smartphone is likly recording you, if you got one your smart tv is pretty likly recording you
Ofc any kind of voice assistant is recording you
ruby needle
And, you hopefully disabled that, windows is recording you
(And even with it disabled i wouldn't bet on it not becomming enabled after a patch "accidentally" )
small wing
Honestly life is a simulation at this point, existence itself is recording us.
vocal shard
The oculus issue that I'm more annoyed about is the deactivating accounts for pointless reasons
small wing
xD
rough pulsar
That's what you get for playing with facebook, honestly. I don't know what you expected.
lilac swan
@small wing Could you explain what you meant with the safety settings?
ruby needle
That however is hof FB has always been.
The name thing is like that since years.
Sucks, but it's not like that risk is nothing you know by the TOS, been like that forever.
small wing
@lilac swan If you don't know how safety settings work, then I don't really know how to explain it to you.
You're a veteran, you should know. 👍
lilac swan
Jesus man, take a breather.
small wing
Can't stop wont stop 
vocal shard
It's not even breaking tos though. A lot of people on the oculus subreddit have been complain because they made a brand new account, haven't had facebook before. And within the time it takes to complete the account, it got banned with no appeal for suspicious activity
Which is apparently a reason germany won't allow oculus device's anymore
small wing
Setting up a facebook account and having it get banned for a fake name even though the name is legit is what really upsets me, imagine buying a ton of games and then being denied those purchases.
ruby needle
That is indeed a problem.
rough pulsar
It's almost as if actively avoiding FB is a really good idea at this point.
What a surprise.
frosty veldt
Isnt it more about how people bought oculus before FB was involved?
lilac swan
Seriously though, how is anyone stopped (Other than someone hiding your avatar) from putting a image above your head to show you're streaming?
vocal shard
Facebook has owned oculus since 2014
rough pulsar
If they didn't know what they were getting into then they were just denying reality.
frosty veldt
Ah just not so forward about it then I wasnt aware
@lilac swan Most of the time, streamers dont make their avatars so I could see them wanting something in game rather than manually adding it
vocal shard
But at the time, palmer luckey and a few other oculus employees made statements that you will never need a facebook account to use oculus
small wing
@lilac swan You said the reason right there, that is why the system is technically flawed for stuff like that. Most people in public do not load anyone but friends.
Or at least from my own experience.
I can only account for maybe 5 people I know that show everything. And they crash, a lot.
rough pulsar
@vocal shard Again, if you have been paying attention it's clear as a supernova on your doorstep that anything FB buys up will be changed however FB see fit, regardless of any promises made.
small wing
Key word here is Public.
Which honestly at this point going in public lobbies is more or less a mixed bag anyways.
rough pulsar
FB was built upon a foundation of deception and lies and to expect that to change is silly.
lilac swan
There you go, much better to talk than just go aggro. I guess it might be a issue if you're using other peoples avatars, but I don't think that many people do. If you've commissioned your avatar then you could just ask the commissioner to add it in.
small wing
Hmmm, interesting how you read my message.
vocal shard
Facebook calling Harvard students a bunch of dumb fucks
small wing
I didn't know text had a cadence or a tone.
lilac swan
Oh, absolutely not. Text or emoji cannot ever convey tones in any way. 🙃
...See what I did there?
small wing
Not really honestly.
lilac swan
That was sarcasm.
small wing
Instead of assuming anger, you can always ask where I am coming from.
lilac swan
I asked you to clarify what you meant, and you said "You should know better"
lilac swan
"If you don't know how safety settings work, then I don't really know how to explain it to you.
You're a veteran, you should know."
small wing
@lilac swan If you don't know how safety settings work, then I don't really know how to explain it to you.
@small wing
You're a veteran, you should know. 👍
@small wing
Yeah.
Totally not what you quoted me saying just a second ago. Do I need to explain it better?
If you assume that message was from a place of anger, then you are very very wrong.
The important part to read here is the part where I mention "I don't really know how to explain it to you." Because I really honestly don't.
lilac swan
You know what? I'm not gonna bother with this anymore.
small wing
Cool. I tried to be respectful and correct something I said and you won't even value that. Nice.
Have it your way then.
lilac swan
I do not value you putting me down for not understanding what you initially first said and despite what you might think, your tone is really displeasant and I do not feel it being respectful at all.
vocal shard
hello
small wing
@lilac swan I'm sorry you got that impression honestly, but the nuances of being text isn't doing this conversation any good either. If I sounded heated or aggressive I want you to know with certainty that that is not what I meant at all.
I don't blame you for walking away, but I was pretty frustrated when you said you are because none of what I said was supposed to be as harsh as it came across as.
Text just sucks, big time.
lilac swan
Thanks, I accept your apology, I really appreciate it.
small wing
"You're a veteran, you should know" shouldn't have been formatted like that, and was an oversight.
I probably should have said something more along the lines of " Its hard to explain the system and how it works off the top of my head, but its the reason why most people wont see avatars"
lilac swan
Right, and my argument is that streamers can already at the very least make an attempt to let people know that they're streaming, instead of shrugging and saying "Well, can't do anything unless VRchat implements a "Now Live" icon for me!"
small wing
Oh i get that part 100%. And I actually am totally for streamers doing that to make sure people are aware.
lilac swan
If some people hide the avatar, then that's fine. That's not the streamers fault.
small wing
I agree.
Safety settings however does make it more confusing though.
Its just a shame that it almost always has to boil down to asking the lobby if anyone is live. 😦
languid beacon
How your avatar looks is how it looks with all safety settings disabled. If someone chooses to not see part of your avatar, that's on them, not yo.
Also, if there's anything you wouldn't do if someone were live, you know, don't do it.
lilac swan
Assuming you're using the default settings, then you would still see everyone's avatar. All you would need to have in mind is to not use a particle system for it or have the shader have a fallback for it "Now Live" image to be seen
small wing
In my case its - I wouldn't want to be live in general.
languid beacon
Unplug router
languid beacon
Even if VRC made a official option to indicate you are streaming, there'd be no obligation to use it
vocal shard
It is true though. Sometimes it's nice to meet people, and over time you talk a bit more and maybe open up about some semi personal stuff. But having some random streaming it for others can make it feel weird
small wing
And if they enforced it somehow it would be a loss for them as well, i get it.
Enforced streaming modes = less streamers
less streamers = less publicity
I think Jamie said what I was trying to put into words but couldnt this whole time.
Like, i dont know if someone is streaming me to a viewerbase of 10 people or if I am being broadcast to 20 thousand.
languid beacon
Then talk about personal stuff in a private instance
Just assume everyone in the room can hear you, regardless of how far away they are standing, and that everyone is recording. It's not the end of the world - if you want privacy, make it.
small wing
I think i understand what you mean.
I feel like handling it that way can make it very difficult to have fruitful interactions in public though. Its a shame.
The most interesting people I meet in VRChat are the ones that typically open up in conversation.
But yeah, I guess its a risk that needs to be taken and what I chose to open up with should be carefully picked.
That sounds like a lot to actively be mindful of, do you get used to it over time? Assuming that is how you do it as well.
languid beacon
If that's how you want to interact, and that's what makes you confortable, sure
I don't think most people have this issue though, voice chat has been in games for a long while, and the possibility that anyone can be recording has always been commonplace.
small wing
I feel like my issue is somewhat personal
I feel like I have something to hide, but its not actually anything that I can pinpoint if that makes sense?
languid beacon
Evern if no one is recording, everyone can be remembering. It's not very different! That applies to real life, too
small wing
Its like irrational social anxiety i think
Damn the more I think about that, the less I want things to change because it seems selfish.
vocal shard
It's understandable tbh. Not knowing who's listening. It's not about having something to hide, but normal humans typically are more comfortable talking face to face and not having randoms Eavesdropping
Wow autocorrect
languid beacon
That's why I recommend dropping private rooms if you don't want randoms in your instance
Personally I always assume voice distance doesn't exist
vocal shard
I don't like hiding in private worlds
languid beacon
I don't think of it as hiding. I'm being around who I choose to be with - you either want to interact with randoms, or you don't. lol
small wing
I think there is a balance here i'm seeing now
languid beacon
And it doesn't have to be 100% one or the other. I go in public, I make friends and meet new people, and I also spend time with closer friends in private where I am free to be more open not around strangers
vocal shard
Bug it's like, say you go to a bar. Through the night, you meet a few people and talk, chat. But one of them was secretly recording everything and uploades it
small wing
That is a very good point
languid beacon
I guess I am much slower to open up to people
I open up once I am sure someone wouldn't do something like that
small wing
I wish I could be like that Adeon, i open up way too fast.
tulip pivot
I’m always open. If you keep things to yourself. It will be hard to make friends
small wing
Its like the Scott the Woz video that was going around
I'm not going to explain or quote it for reasons
but something like that
not quoting since it was sorta offensive in context
I can be vague about it though 1 sec
languid beacon
I'm very open and talkative. But the way I interact in public is as if I'm always on camera. It doesn't change alot, it only changes certain personal things, like, talking about other people, or saying something that could be taken out of context.
In reality there shouldn't be a huge difference,
You should always act honestly anyway
small wing
So some guy recorded himself walking up to him and said something questionable that caught him off guard, and naturally he reacted to it in a way that was a split second decision and bam, now its viral.
small wing
Virality isn't a good thing most times.
tulip pivot
I mean I guess if you’re talking about the “catch me outside” girl
languid beacon
There will come a day where everyone has invisible body cameras recording all the time in public, I say, it might be time to start getting used to it, lol
small wing
You might be right, i think AWS is just for file hosting.
There was something in my console logs inside of Unity that pointed to AWS so I cant say 100% its used for anything else other than avatar uploads.
I'm also not the most webhost savy person either lol
But yeah, honestly the whole streaming thing is starting to become a lot more clear to me now. Its my own issue, and shouldn't be a reason to change anything.
compact river
Because sleep was never an option
shell bear
compact river
shell bear
owo I just saw someone use it though e.e is it only for vr users E_E
compact river
I cri
shell bear
compact river
My puns they also cri
shell bear
xD
vocal shard
hello ;_;
shell bear
wait - i cant chat my question away e,e
compact river
hoi q-q
shell bear
tupper pls halp e,e
tall laurel
Was just informed that several of my private models that have never been public and contain some degree of custom content in them and have never been used in public lobbies have just been stolen and reuploaded onto another person's account and set as a public model. <@&397642795457970181> Where would be the appropriate place for me to file some kind of formal complaint regarding the asset security of VRC? This issue has come up before, but is only getting worse, to the point where I'm questioning the legality of it.
sharp saddle
I don't... think... pinging mods will do anything.
tall laurel
Well I don't really have anyone else to contact, and there's no applicable tag on the canny
My options are limited
coarse rock
Is there any server problems?
sharp saddle
It's not exactly a legal problem, considering there will always be people who'll steal others' private models via malicious means.
Do you know who reupped the model?
tall laurel
I know the name of the account that has it reupped, yes
onyx laurel
tall laurel
Done. Proof provided.
small wing
I also suggest encrypting metadata into your textures
tall laurel
The fact that they're able to steal content over this game this easily is problematic.
And how would I do that?
tall laurel
What would that accomplish
small wing
Proof of ownership
If someone rips your model, its going to be in the metadata.
There are tons of other ways to do similar stuff like that too. Lots of sneaky ones.
Realistically though, what you really want to do is embed a logo of some kind and copyright it.
sharp saddle
Sup Roll.
small wing
If someone starts selling ripped assets of yours, the logo is in there. Which is technically your own copyright.
tall laurel
While I can do that and most likely will in the future, is there any way for VRC itself to mitigate this issue? Because this is far too common
small wing
So you can sue 😊
Not really honestly. Since its Unity there isn't many ways to lock it all down.
Unity games are typically the most easy to work around.
tall laurel
How would I go about copyrighting a logo
vocal shard
small wing
@tall laurel Here is a good resource https://www.copyright.gov/
Probably best to get a lawyer for anything that isn't CC though.
stone current
for the most part as long as you uploaded it to some platform like twitter and you have proof that you made it, you already automatically own a copyright
small wing
Lots of legal shenanigans that I cant even begin to understand lol
stone current
but if you want to solidify that copyright you can look into registered trademarks and copyrights
but yea anything you make in countries like US automatically copyright to you unless you upload to a platform that shares ownership of the asset
tall laurel
Does VRC count as shared ownership if a model is set to public?
That wouldn't automatically set it as CC would it?
stone current
well its still yours however since people can use it but not modify it its probably ok
an example of something that maybe wouldn't need a copyright
a free texture sheet for making a fursona
near ether
I know this is kinda random, but is anyone else having an issue with timing out atm? For some reason I join a world/lobby just fine and then like 2-3 minutes later I time out
stone current
shared ownership refers to something like this:
small wing
You need to declare the CC attribution in the source files, if the source files are not distributed then I assume it doesn't count as shared ownership.
vivid robin
Theres also the problem with login to
stone current
and they have the right to use it for advertisements or publicity
and also to ask that you make changes to content in the game or it will be removed
something that wouldn't really happen on something like indie game websites
small wing
As an example, VRChat specifically requested my CC attribution type when submitting to the Quest Creator Program. @tall laurel
If you distribute a file with any of your own original work, you need to provide the disclaimer that it is using a CC license.
tall laurel
Gotcha, so CC attribution is something that needs to be specifically requested and granted permission for, it's not something that's ever assumed
small wing
And it cannot be changed after afaik
stone current
and either pick from a selection of just describe in details your own rules
and i think it can be changed, but not in any way that will harm individuals
i.e. u cant make it public domain, switch it to private, and then try to get royaltys
small wing
You would want to pick a no derivatives no redistribution license.
stone current
but if you noticed somethig happening with the model that you would wish to stop you could change it
small wing
stone current
whatever the creator says is how their content should be handled as long as its reasonable is considered protected by their copyright
including licenses
i.e. if someone says "don't use this model for advertising unless you contact me"
you could use that as an argument in an actual case if they had that ToS available
umbral reef
Does mean you need 100% ownership of the avatar to properly enforce it though 👀
And things like kitbashes dont count under that as your not even allowed to use them for this anyway
small wing
Keep in mind, you will still want a lawyer if you plan on doing a DMCA takedown.
stone current
yes of course
vivid robin
oof sounds big
stone current
but if its against the license its a copyright violation and if its against the creators terms of services or guidelines then its misuse of the property which can also be a copyright violation
umbral reef
Copyright isnt made for the internet 🤷♂️
Copyright irl doesnt even properly work in its current form
tall laurel
Welp, time to slap a copyrighted logo onto every custom model I make and then sue people out the ass if they touch my content with melonloader
stone current
but the goal of copyright is to protect assets that belong to individuals and make sure theyre used without exploitation
you can for example copyright your code for a emmvrc mod
umbral reef
@tall laurel Gl sueing for no money as you gotta ask VRC to take it down first.
tall laurel
Gotcha.
stone current
and then people cant use that code
unless you tell people they can
or you can even say "you can use the code but only in its entirety"
so it would have to be a package included into other mods
small wing
@umbral reef That isn't how it works at all. You would file a cease and desist letter to the individual, not VRChat.
You would only contact VRChat with DMCA to get the model taken down
If they do not listen to the cease and desist, then you sue the individual not VRChat.
umbral reef
@small wing Same stuff with just an extra step
stone current
the piracy claim is pretty interesting
but it technically applies under the cause of obtaining assets / products without purchasing them from the appropriate vendors
umbral reef
@stone current Goverments wont really care about these cases so unless you want to take it into a civil court for it 🤷♂️
stone current
well yea but u can always settle outside of court if the person is in fear of losing or legal fees
small wing
Its not about who cares, its about who has the money to risk.
stone current
^ yea like what i said
if u make minimum wage but u pirate content because u have no money
umbral reef
And even then, odds are the person your trying to sue isnt in your country even
stone current
u are in virtually no position to be sued
umbral reef
In all the years of the internet people still have not given enough fucks to do it as there are a lot of ways to get the host to remove it
stone current
thats another problem in of itself
the same issue with the trademark of the SCP logo and its website
small wing
A cease and desist is about all you need most times. It doesn't require a lawyer either, and is still usable as evidence in a case.
stone current
different countries employing different copyright law
cease and desist can be anything from a formal email to a long phone conversation
as long as its obvious that the asset belongs to you and they understand it
although the more formal the more evidence you will have in court
what
ok
small wing
You're missing a comma @chilly stump
also cya
Chat mods will take care of you soon enough
calculated
stone current
a lot of people worry about copyright being like this mystical demon
umbral reef
Always love how ironic that stuff is as they got triggered over something to post that Kekw
raw pine
Yep and he or she wonders why they will get banned soon lol
stone current
and yes it is complicated but its only there to help you
stone current
its job is to protect your assets under your rules, at least in theory
umbral reef
And it doesnt work like that in theory
small wing
Its not complicated in the sense that its hard to pull off, but its complicated in the sense that its confusing by design i think.
stone current
well yes for companies too but it works for smaller creators as well
small wing
It being confusing makes u read into it more
stone current
but the idea of spending your own money to protect your own assets doesnt make any sense
umbral reef
well yes for companies too but it works for smaller creators as well
@stone current It doesnt though...
your extremely powerless unless you can pay a expensive lawyer to sue almost everyone on the internet.
umbral reef
There are a lot more IMO
But i cba to go into most of it
stone current
it shouldnt cost any money to claim ownership unless youre wrong
at least you can make the other person pay your legal fees
although some people have teams of like 50 lawyers so their legal fees are enormous
i.e. most popular youtubers
umbral reef
Then you get what happens in the music world where everyone sues everyone just in case they can win
The rich can still pay the lawyers and the poor just gotta pray they are right 100% of the time
stone current
with music its really hard
because theres only so many good sounding melodies
anybody can claim those 6 notes you used are the same
or that drum beat is the same for like 10 seconds
umbral reef
Applies to most types of copyright though
stone current
and its difficult because what are u gonna do if u have no money
how will u fight against that
small wing
Lol did you see the video of that guy who made a USB flash drive and tried to copyright every melody possible? I know it was BS, but it was still pretty funny.
it was in an adam neely video
stone current
its so much harder with the advant of internet
bc back then u make and register the product and then its obvious who owns it
but with internet theres hundreds of millions of stuff being sent around and made every second
and its really hard to trace content and evidence since things like digital art is completely virtual and u can modify file metadata and say "i made this file a year ago actually"
but as long as its uploaded somewhere public or has a secret hidden watermark/logo then it much easier to trace
vocal shard
My vive lighthouses are blinking green after I tried fixing the dim red light problem after updating them. No Idea how to fix them or even remotely get started doing so. Please help!
dark dagger
Looking for the World with Commission board or crowd funding board.
Currently thinking of put on my world.... would like to see them as example
ivory spire
Hi! i already make a ticket at VRC support but I'm hoping i can get ideas on what's happening with my vrc. It doesn't load in and gets stuck at the "logging in as" area where it's just the green space with particles. I tried everything i mean everything. I've uninstalled and reinstalled VRC (did not fix the problem), restarted my PC (did not fix the problem), updated all my drivers (did not fix the problem), downgraded my drivers (did not fix the problem), messed with the vrc steam properties like verifying thing you can do there with the launch options and verifying game files etc. (did not fix the problem), deleted vrc folder (did not fix the problem), went to the %appdata% and deleted things there (did not fix the problem), deletes all temp and cache files (did not fix the problem). Went on oculus and basically did everything again same shit (did not fix the problem)
unreal verge
@ivory spire go to https://vrchat.com/home/avatars and reset to the default one.
upper cradle
👀
wicked brook
waxen gust
Had the same issue as Green, and for me it was my Avatar causing issues. Thanks OctoOnFire!
uncut trail
Rip ocukus now owned by fb
lofty lake
Oculus has been owned by FB for years.
lofty lake
That change is new, yes. But Oculus was owned by the FB company for several years prior. It's similar to how YouTube was picked up by Google early on, but for a while you could start a YouTube channel without a Google account behind it.
The big difference here is that one can watch YouTube videos without logging in. Not so to use Oculus.
vocal shard
Oculus rip indeed
compact river
Ya big rip for people who did not get it before the change
Tho i think all quest 2s are fb accounts right?
compact junco
Does anyone know why when I look at the top right of a portal to join a different place it only has quest and pc when I only have a rift s
ivory zephyr
thats pc
cloud cloak
Hewwo
ivory zephyr
10883 people want to play
jaunty girder
What?
ivory zephyr
thats how many people are playing, so you would assume they want to play
jaunty girder
i mean with me
ivory zephyr
play in a public lobby then
hollow ingot
Just specify "with Discord" or be (much) more specific with the question maybe.
sharp saddle
Whose idea was it to add awkward lighting in the back stairwell of the Pug? 
glass valley
does anyone have the problem of vrc login screen keeps loading and doesn't take you anywhere but just keeps reloading the username?
vocal shard
does anyone have the problem of vrc login screen keeps loading and doesn't take you anywhere but just keeps reloading the username?
@glass valley i am having that exact issue
glass valley
@vocal shard damn I left vrc open for 30 mins didn’t take me nowhere and then closed the game and retried but it still doesn’t work. So I’m probably gonna have to delete and reinstall vrc.
vocal shard
it seems that we aren't the only ones experiencing this issue..
there are similar messages from today in the support channel.
glass valley
Yeah I’ve realized that but it’s weird since ik a lot of the ppl I’m usually with have no problems with vrc
vocal shard
maybe it has somnething to do with ranks. i asked a few of my friends who are on differnt ranks than me and they are still playing the game. so idk if the servers are down.
that might be a bit of a stretch but nothing makes sense as it is.
now that you mentioned it iv been only seeing orange and purple more often before I got the glitch too
yeah, i'm a new user. so it must be.
glass valley
But idk if it has to do with ranks cuz I’m trusted
vocal shard
mm.. maybe it has something to do with the vrcsdk
i was uploading one of my avatars and opened vrchat to test it when i encountered the issue. i even removed the model in case that was the issue and nothing changed.
alright, i may have fixed the issue.
go to the vrchat website, login and reset your avatar to the default one.
Does anyone wanna watch a movie? u gotta be like 13 - 14 cuz I don't want to talk to someone 12 yrs older than me. just dm me
pearl rune
tulip pivot
It’s not. You’re poor
Same
Oh right haha your kinda funny
Oh same I love that movie.
Wanna be friends?
Oh cool thanks. Nice meeting you too
raw mason
Anyone else having trouble logging in atm?
jaunty girder
Who wants to play?
uncut trail
Huh why ?
vocal shard
agreed
unreal verge
Uh no
cold talon
F in chat for vrc
vocal shard
Do any of you know where i can find cute anime maids??
cold talon
it was a good run o7
fathom ether
this is a really long shot but does anyone have track names for the "Treehouse in the Shade" music?
nm found it https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MgApT3VHtZY
vocal shard
How long do I gotta play in order for me to be able to create avatars?
polar kite
i spent like 36 hours in the game
and most of the time i was joining worlds randomly while muted
you should add some friends too
hollow rock
misty crypt
100% 0.0B
for days.
when loading worlds. only way to fix it is to fully restart vrchat and even then it often does it again.
misty crypt
awesome, so low priority then on the list? 😛
misty crypt
fair
nova hamlet
not sure where to ask, but dose any one know how or where i might find out how to make a shooting range?
regal furnace
laughs in 1260 hours on record
i got the perms to upload i think it was like 20 hours in
vocal shard
you want to upload your stuff but you don't want to spend 36h on this game
what even is the point lmao
sharp saddle
^
vocal shard
Me and my gf are getting married in vrchat anyone wanna attended/ take photos or marry us?
sharp saddle
Don't have a group of friends to attend? :P
vocal shard
Nope it’s 4:35 am 😂
sharp saddle
Oof. Horrible timing.
sharp saddle
Why not have it at a normal time? 
vocal shard
I’m a night owl 😂
sharp saddle
And your gf is too?
vocal shard
Pretty much
sharp saddle
You're better off doing it at a normal time when your friends are gonna be on (or make European friends if you haven't already); they're the ones who're gonna be awake enough to attend/care. :P
vocal shard
Fair enough
hasty rose
Does anyone know how to get the Tom nook avatar
vocal shard
no
rocky blaze
so much fun when the game gets stuck at 100% and i have to close the game
vocal shard
really ? I personally hate it but to each their own
cold talon
whatever floats your boat i guess
topaz echo
hi i suppose this is asked a thousand times plus infinitude, but basically im never gonna be able to pay the price of a steamvr headset itself..
so i was curious, i was made aware of a android app called iVRy, where you can use regular smartphone vr headset for playin steamvr video games..
and because this might seem like uttter magic, as if its too amazing to be true, i just wanted to ask and verify if playin vrchat through that way is even remotely smooth, or that youd actually recommend it?
rocky blaze
if you want a getto setup you can use Wii remotes, and nintendo switch controllers for hands and feet and your phone for a headset
topaz echo
@rocky blaze more likely doin tons of stuff at once
if you want a getto setup you can use Wii remotes, and nintendo switch controllers for hands and feet and your phone for a headset
@rocky blaze so it is possible?
topaz echo
i mean i can easily get some switch controllers i suppose
rocky blaze
someone used 2 phones, one for a controller and the other a VR
wary estuary
Is the Oculus quest 2 now aviable?
rocky blaze
pre order still
wary estuary
a ok
broken plover
I used iVRy, but only with an iphone 4s so performance was meh. If you have a decent phone then I'd imagine it should work better than it did for me. But if you play it like that you can't use gestures (I don't know why they made it that way) so if you just want to play the game then desktop mode is probably better. But if you want to (somewhat) experience vr then you can try it out, but its not gonna be the 100% accurate vr experience. If you want to experience real vr there is no way around a pcvr headset (index for example)
topaz echo
I used iVRy, but only with an iphone 4s so performance was meh. If you have a decent phone then I'd imagine it should work better than it did for me. But if you play it like that you can't use gestures (I don't know why they made it that way) so if you just want to play the game then desktop mode is probably better. But if you want to (somewhat) experience vr then you can try it out, but its not gonna be the 100% accurate vr experience. If you want to experience real vr there is no way around a pcvr headset (index for example)
@broken plover and a pcvr headset below 100 bucks isnt realistic rite?
broken plover
yep. the lowest you could get a pcvr headset for is like 300 if you look around on the used market
topaz echo
yeh noo.. and what abt connecting gestures thru a controller vor iVRy/ur phone?
broken plover
vrchat needs input from like a vive, rift or index controller to properly use gestures. I haven't really found a way to use gestures in vr other than to use the actual controllers for those vr headsets. There was a hand tracking thing a few years ago but I think its been discontinued. Leap Motion if you can find one for cheap on ebay or something
broken plover
yes
topaz echo
those r compatible? cuz i can easily get those
could i use it on a cheap ivry vr headset like lets go wild, google carboard?
broken plover
should work. You still need something like an xbox controller to move around, but it lets you move around your hands and fingers
(and here's a video from 2 years ago of someone using it) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AhNWDFGhQ3I
ripe fractal
Anybody know how to get the Among us Avatars?
topaz echo
@broken plover so just makin sure, do you also need the develop mount to put it on your headset, or just usin it for pc works
broken plover
it only works in vr for vrchat so you either need the develop mount or I guess you could also use double sided tape or something
dusky pulsar
someone tell me how i went from visitor on my 2nd account to new user in 6 hours of in-game time, wutttt
vocal shard
seems normal
shut ore
i need a few more new friends , to become new user xd
shut ore
i think minimum amount of friends , is 5 or so , cus thats how my other account got new user , but im not sure if you need to send friend invites , or get invites...
vocal shard
I just played and it gave me what I have rn
shut ore
time to send other 'new users' friend requests :3
vocal shard
Ok be careful with that ig
shut ore
why?
vocal shard
there is no minimum amount of friends to have
shut ore
so it just needs me to actively run circles , and trow pillows around , got it ^^
shut ore
then u delete em again :3 but thanks for the heads-up :)
vocal shard
harsh cove
Is vrchat more cpu or gpu heavy?
vocal shard
mostly CPU, dynbone being probably the biggest issue
hollow ingot
With dynbone mostly being on one or a few cores/threads?
vocal shard
that and the code is not the most optimized either
compact river
I almost never cap out my gpu
topaz echo
@broken plover would an old wii controller, or like.. a joy con from a switch, also work?
broken plover
it would work to let you move your arms but probably not for gestures
light acorn
You just pinged an innocent person congrats.
candid crane
lol
vocal shard
monkey trying to ping 10k+ people to ask the most basic of questions
without trying to read any of the channels or pinned message with all that info
stable folio
vocal shard
Read the doc, the answer is there
vocal shard
by using your mouse to press on the upload button
compact river
You have to feel it out
vocal shard
that's why you read the doc
candid crane
can you link the doc
vocal shard
or watch a tutorial about it
plenty of tutorials in pinned message in #avatars-2-general
just google it
candid crane
ok
light acorn
@candid crane https://docs.vrchat.com/docs/creating-your-first-avatar
light acorn
In summary before you even upload an avatar you have to be the "New User" rank
shut ore
game crashed after some one spammed particles... love when that happens
vocal shard
use the particle limiter
haven't been crashed in months
hey guys im searching for someone for my youtube channel for like skits and stuff needs to be 14-18+ and needs to have a vr dm me if your intrssted 🙂
shut ore
i have all stuff off for anyone , eccept friends
candid crane
is VRChat on nintendo?
vocal shard
hello
regal furnace
how do you imagine a game that brings i9 CPUs and RTX 3000 cards to its knees on a nintendo console?
candid crane
fair
regal furnace
how do you imagine a game that brings i9 CPUs and RTX 3000 cards to its knees on a xbox?
vocal shard
but no, not available on ps4, xbox or nintendo
shut ore
Svel , about particle limiter , what amount do u recomend?
vocal shard
depend on what you want
if you want so see a lot of them or not
and if you computer can handle it
i doubled the first, third and fourth line
shut ore
is that 'default particle limiter setup' already a good setup? or is that litteraly what the game runs rn ?
vocal shard
and the "ps_mesh_particle_poly_limit": 50000, too i think
it's a fairly limited one
you'll see most of the animation from people without any issues
shut ore
ow i have custom animations off anyways
vocal shard
but if you enjoy those giant animations with a lot of effects, you may want to up some numbers a bit
you won't miss much if you use the default settings tbh
most people don't use that much particles anyway
shut ore
i set max particles to 5000
vocal shard
that's super low
torpid trench
@alpine obsidian > ALSO- Like I said- is anybodys personal avatars not loading? the list I see only shows the public and legacy and so avatars, but my personal list doesn't show up
@alpine obsidian same here my favorite avatars and uploaded avatars doesn't appear sometimes and sometimes the avatars stuck on 100%loading when that happen even when i wanna go to another world it stuck on the world loading screen i have to restart my game all the time
cinder elk
does anyone know why when my hands go below a certain point they teleport to the wrong place? like when i go into my menu the controllers are tracked accurately but in game the hands aren't where they should be when i sit down
in standing mode
regal furnace
you in standard vr? if yes, its probably because the avatar goes into this weird prone/crouch animation, which is very weird in standard VR. Its overridden in Fullbody VR and decently good in desktop though
vocal shard
Hello everyone, so I have an issue that I need to figure out and I was wondering if anyone here could try and help. So my friend tried to get into VRChat but he kept getting stuck in the loading screen and when he tried to put in his password it kept saying it was invalid. He was able to log in the website just fine however he can't get in through steam or VRC in general and even his avatar picture on both the website and the game itself is grayed out. Does anyone know what the issue could be because I have no idea.
try #user-support-old
if all else fail > #vrchat-support
Alright thank you
regal furnace
i doubt it will work at all
cerulean folio
i bet if you use something like wine you could get it to run, i wouldn’t know how well though
not even sure if it’d work with vr
tropic pawn
does anyone know how the compressed Q2 link image compares to a cv1?
languid beacon
does anyone know how the compressed Q2 link image compares to a cv1?
@tropic pawn No quest 2 here but Quest 1 with official link cable was way sharper than CV1. So Quest 2 would be even better.
For me the sharpness of quest 1 over link cable and valve index are the same, index just has much bigger FoV
thorn blaze
i need help my vrchat audio doesn't work, the audio works in the login screen but after i enter the game it doesn't work anymore, any solutions?
tropic pawn
so even with compression artefacts the image is better? cool
thorn blaze
:(
languid beacon
so even with compression artefacts the image is better? cool
@tropic pawn virtual desktop has compression artifacts. Link cable doesn’t really have any noticeable artifacts unless it’s a very high bitrate view (like snow or confetti)
Even then the higher resolution means it’s still sharper than the cv1 blur
Of course if you want sharp pcvr go with Hp Reverb or Index
vocal shard
Quest 2 is higher resolution than index. And is RGB stipe rather than pentile
vocal shard
But the original quest wasn't
tropic pawn
all ive seen/used is gear then cv1
vocal shard
That's why the quest and vive pro looked like lower res than index and even rift s, despite having index resolution
languid beacon
I haven’t personally used the quest 2 but I hear the FoV isn’t much higher than Quest 1, if true... quest’s FoV was so much smaller than index it’s why I decided to switch. Quest 1 felt like a tiny little circle in comparison
vocal shard
Well yeah. It seems all oculus devices have progressively been getting slightly smaller fov over time
rough pulsar
Yikes, 90d FOV for the Quest? That's horrible
vocal shard
The dev kits had great fov
languid beacon
Index spoiled me I can’t downgrade field of view now. The circle is now too obvious 
rough pulsar
The thing that's keeping me with the Index is the audio. It's too good.
languid beacon
I’m not super happy with index controllers but field of view has trapped me
vocal shard
Even now that I have index controllers, oculus touch is still my favorite
thorn blaze
help my audio doesnt work it only works in my login screen
vocal shard
Better ergonomics, and more reliability and accuracy when choosing hand gestures in vrchat
Half the time the index controllers link my pinky and ring finger together. (I have smaller hands tho)
languid beacon
Oh yes CV1 controllers were the most comfortable controllers I’ve ever held, like not just in VR, controllers period. They beat out Gamecube for me
rough pulsar
and accuracy when choosing hand gestures in vrchat
That's on VRChat for using their own gesture detection, which is incredibly basic compared to what SteamVR's Skeletal system has.
languid beacon
 I miss them
Half the time the index controllers link my pinky and ring finger together. (I have smaller hands tho)
@vocal shard To be fair that’s not index. That’s VR chat. It’s not just you I hear it from everyone and it happens to me too but play other games and it doesn’t happen
VR chat refuses to let you lift only your ring finger
rough pulsar
Like I said, specifically anything that uses SteamVR's own skeletal system and you won't see it happen, because of their advanced finger pose estimation & filtering.
Grab some friends and spend an hour in SteamVR Home and you'll notice a significant improvement in finger control there compared to VRChat.
languid beacon
Why doesn’t VR chat just do that tho
vocal shard
Ah ok
rough pulsar
Legacy Spaghetti is why. They'd have to upgrade large amounts of their input system.
vocal shard
I was under the assumption that vrchat used steamvr skeletal tracking. Good to know
languid beacon
Worth?!
Try disabling fingers on AV3 so that your index controller uses oculus-based hand gestures and you can see how badly it does it
nocturne shell
yo
rough pulsar
Nah, unless they have changed anything (and I really doubt it) they're just grabbing the raw axis values for each finger zone, doing the basic smoothing and mapping those values to finger curl.
languid beacon
Sounds to me like valve should just make the better values available for games so that they don’t have to do it themselves
rough pulsar
They do, it's called the Skeletal Input API
rough pulsar
For VRChat yes, because it requires an overhaul of their input system.
covert lily
I have a question, Im wanting to get VR but I was wondering if i played online games with people what sort of internet speed would I need?
cerulean folio
the same as any other online game, honestly
tropic pawn
games dont need that much speed, they need a good low ping connection
covert lily
I just thought it would be more since it has to send to the server how I move and stuff
Since its not a static character its fluid movement
cerulean folio
whats ur current speed?
covert lily
18MB down, 1MB up
I can play any other online games completely fine without any issue
languid beacon
I just thought it would be more since it has to send to the server how I move and stuff
@covert lily not really.
covert lily
Hmm?
languid beacon
It’s not a difference at all
covert lily
Ahhh
languid beacon
It’s not nearly the same update rate as first person shooters 
silk oyster
For some reason I can't login. When I open VRchat, it just goes to the loading screen with no text boxes. After about 20-30 seconds, I get the login failed sound effect and the login box pops up and disappears in a flash. Then it keeps doing this every 20-30 seconds.
I have already tried uninstalling and re-installing the client
languid beacon
Super good timing is important in shooters, social vr doesn’t need a fast update rate
covert lily
Gotcha thanks
cerulean folio
@languid beacon u should be fine with 18 down, just hop into vrchat on desktop and if you lag then maybe not?
languid beacon
I> For some reason I can’t login. When I open VRchat, it just goes to the loading screen with no text boxes. After about 20-30 seconds, I get the login failed sound effect and the login box pops up and disappears in a flash. Then it keeps doing this every 20-30 seconds.
@silk oyster Unplug your router for 30 seconds and plug it back in
Not joking lol
silk oyster
Didn't work
cerulean folio
@silk oyster try going to the vrchat website and resetting to default avatar maybe
umbral wyvern
Will the quest 2 support more shaders in VRChat?
silk oyster
that one worked
guess the avatar I was using got deleted or privated
vocal shard
The quest 2 will have lots of new features, including, but not limited to, lots of Facebook data stealing and possibly being bricked from your headset, forcing you to buy a new one
shut ore
-waiting for trust lvl to go up- xd
livid sapphire
kindred wind
I'm have a issues logging in as well
languid beacon
Will the quest 2 support more shaders in VRChat?
@umbral wyvern I don’t think avatar restrictions are going to change since quest 1 has to load them as well
kindred wind
nvm fixed it
languid beacon
If i have oculus link to a pc will i be able to see “pc avatars”?
@umbral wyvern yes if you use the link cable you are literally playing the PC version
umbral wyvern
Sweet
languid beacon
When you use a link cable your quest doesn’t do anything your PC just uses the quest like a PC headset
umbral wyvern
Yeah so it wont crash as easy and you can see shaders and physics so thats good
languid beacon
You can use the default charge cable by the way but it is much more JPEG than the link cable
For quest 2 they made the charge cable super short so people would stop doing that
shut ore
'Link Cable' the thing i see in me mind : a Gameboy conected to pc , with VRChat running on the gameboy screen xd i do not wish to ever forget this tought.
vocal shard
Would be cool to see
shut ore
easy mode -> raspberry gpi case (a gameboy shaped case with a screen build in) -> stream share screen thingy somehow , then just bluetooth controller the imput or so to pc , maybe plop in some sensor that detects movement ... might work
spice robin
Pp
south crag
when ever i try to load vrchat it does the loading thing then says the connection/server timed out. it does this for everything i try it on (my laptop,desktop, and quest) and its getting really annoying and i just want to play but i cant. i need help and internet is not the problem im getting 40 megabits per second
ive even tried using my vrchat account, oculus account and steam account as the login and its the same problem
vocal shard
Any idea how to get rid of the vague mirror? I literally have to stand a meter in front of it to see myself clearly. Did every avatar suddenly need glasses? What is this??
pseudo basalt
probably depends on the map
south crag
could it just be some kind of lod thing? maybe its set low or somthing i dont know
pseudo basalt
i think you can choose the resolution of the mirror you put in a world, it's not a client side thing
vocal shard
Every world that I've been in has had this issue.
vocal shard
2080 TI. i9 9900k overclocked to 5ghz? No
vocal shard
Thanks for thinking though. Don't feel bad for yourself :)
mild violet
Thx, i just started playing like 20+ hours ago LOL
And I've already made some really awesome people
I've watched my friend play a lot of it so I wanted to play too
dang it, i killed chat again T^T
guess I'll change my name again
vocal shard
Glad you're having fun xd
glass sky
Wut
glass sky
I use desktop
vocal shard
oh
glass sky
Wbu
true trail
yes
glass sky
Its still fun
true trail
i only have a rift cv1
vocal shard
oh
glass sky
I have a psvr 😭
vocal shard
aww, lol
true trail
rip
vocal shard
🙂
cant wait until they start making 8K Laptops next year
mobile 8k version of the 3090 Graphic Card
Planning for some serious VR gaming ! 😄
charred shore
hi
vocal shard
hi
charred shore
im planning to get the a vr set and play :D
vocal shard
great !
charred shore
mhm
vocal shard
which one are you getting ?
charred shore
oculos
vocal shard
ah
charred shore
here the link
sonic nymph
who has a naruto animated avatar
bitter gale
Hey can I ask about an avatar I’m looking for?
coral tide
im not sure
austere acorn
anybody wanna play some vrchat?
vocal shard
What
void quarry
does anyone know how to quickly upload a model to vrchat
winged sparrow
can someone tell me why it says unknown error when trying to make an account on the website? and sometimes captcha fails
thorn blaze
guys i need help when im in the login screen the audio works but once i'm in game the audio stops working
twilit stream
Getting a Oculus Quest 2 tomorrow morning, SO HYPED
jolly cove
ooo congrats
silk solar
What channel is where people put their advertisements to port/make/rig/etc models for VRChat?
jovial kestrel
vocal shard
I'm looking to collaborate with world creators to advertise my product. Are there any popular world's that will put up poster advertisements?
potent venture
im on omegle
rich relic
does quest 2 have full support for vrc?
fast juniper
polar garden
Hey, I need to ask the community here something
I enjoy both platforms, VRChat and AltspaceVR
But lately I have been observing something strange, there have been a number of users in AltspaceVR that have been promoting themselves as game developers and programmers, yet have very little technical knowledge
What I find strange is that some of these users appear to be making tutorials, sharing worlds or scripts but when you ask them a question about something you think they should know, like what an AssetBundle is, if they have ever heard of Javascript, or even how to view the logs on their PC then they get very confused
Earlier this year I came across a user trying to sell the AltspaceVR uploader, just recently someone tried to offer me a plugin for free on the blender market that gave me a feature that already existed (object divider) and then asked me if I had compiled and uploaded my template in blender instead of unity
Something these users have in common also is their use of VPN's and they push users from AltspaceVR in to VRChat, making strange claims like AltspaceVR is shutting down soon, that scripting doesn't exist or other strange claims
VRChat is the common theme here
Does this sound like something that should be worrisome? Are these people just eccentric or have VRChat been experiencing similar problems with users on the platform here?
lilac swan
Well, as with any community for its size VRchat definitely has its own weirdos ranging from head-scratching to clinically insane. Haven't heard anything like what you're saying though
polar garden
It's beginning to creep me out, I can't understand what their motives would be, it's like these users are coming in under instruction to do these things.....
vocal shard
they are just weirdos, ignore them
it's the same breed of people that put a random mmd model into blender, hit "fix model" on the cat addon and call themselves 3d modelers
slightly recolor a premade model
yeah that's my OC that I made from scratch
subtle nest
Yo, honestly, where do people get the avatars with the option to hold people?
like they got chairs implemented. Saw a creepy steve avatar that was like it
Any easy places to look for those of us that are either not unity inclined or too drunk lazy t olearn
cinder elk
does anyone know why on the index you can use hands with gestures locked but not on any other controller ??
subtle nest
I imagine its just the controller
because in other games, where there aren't gestures(ie: Pavlov VR, Onward, Blade and Sorcery, etc), you still have finger tracking. its apart of the controllers.
cinder elk
the controller doesn't add it itself it's implemented in the game
the controller cant add hand tracking in games where it's not supported
subtle nest
and the game has it supported.
cinder elk
yes but in a weird way that's way different from the other controllers
subtle nest
Just because you turn off gestures, it wouldnt turn off the controllers tracking of the hands. The oculus should still track whether your index finger is on the trigger just like the Valve Index tracks it.
right?
cinder elk
but it doesn't
i used to have a cv1
when you disabled gestures all ur finger movements stopped working
subtle nest
Could be an avatar specific thing or something that got changed in an update? I dont know, I traded up from a year one oculus rift last year and never experienced that.
cinder elk
im using the same avatars and i got the index friday so unless there was an update at the end of thursday i would've seen it on the cv1
analog forge
@subtle nest is your profile pic the whole shrek movie?
subtle nest
majority of it. Discord cuts it off.
analog forge
damn, you were this close
cinder elk
like a think it's both, the avatar enables a specific face gesture when a hand movement is done, and the hand movement is caused by a button press, but the index doesn't use buttons so i assume vrc manually does the hand movement maybe ?
analog forge
vrchat has its own index support and doesnt make use of the already existing steam support
for index
cinder elk
yeah where as i assume avatars are implemented per avatar
cus each avatar has different hand movements for button presses
on a cv1 or smt
analog forge
when your making an avatar, specifically in the new 3.0 system, you create animations for the positioning of the hands and then you configure these to activate on certain parameters
these parameters are the gestures that you use when you hold the trigger and grip for a fist for example
basically the index system either ignores this system or overwrites it which is why index users can't have custom hand gestures
cinder elk
also why i assume some avatars look broken with specific gestures, like a thumbs up on a hopkin with knuckles controllers looks kinda broken and much different than on a cv1 which is what it's supposed to look like
pseudo basalt
it works the same on the index, you do finger gestures and it plays an animation that usually has a facial expression
cinder elk
yes but disabling gestures doesn't disable finger movements
pseudo basalt
but you can disable gestures in the action menu to only move fingers yeah
cinder elk
you can't do that without the index controllers though
pseudo basalt
yeah, index is special
analog forge
yea bc the way the index has been implemented is to make the hands feel as connected to your own as much as possible
pseudo basalt
if you want to disable just faces and still use finger gestures, you can set up a toggle using sdk3
zenith torrent
how much the index cost??
pseudo basalt
probably works the other way around as well, just disabling finger tracking through an animation in sdk3
it's 1000$
analog forge
yep
cinder elk
no and probably never will be
pseudo basalt
it's out of stock
zenith torrent
bruhhh
cinder elk
out of stock pretty much but you can still order it and wait
and you don't have to pay till it ships
pseudo basalt
you queue for it
zenith torrent
that's why they say it's not available in my country
pseudo basalt
8+ weeks of waiting
cinder elk
yeah but for sdk2 avatars won't work, and most finger gestures are on sdk2
pseudo basalt
if it says not available then you can't order it at all