#vrchat-general-2
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playtime is relative tho. You can spend 100s of hours playing a multiplayer console game for a fraction of a cost to get a vr setup going
the index did bring VR into the forefront but thats only a recent development
I think there are plenty of good Arguments for saying VR as mainstream. I also think there are plenty of good arguments that it's not
One thing is for certain, the growth is there
hardware needs to be cheaper first
That's an opinion
no....
yes
you cant go into best buy and buy a random computer and expect it to run VR
I'd be willing to bet most computers out of Best Buy could run VR. Maybe not the laptops
Or if you are purposefully buying a cheap workstation PC
running VR and having a stable framerate are two different things
I think we're talking about the bare minimum you said run VR
Weather runs really well or okay, it's still run
ok a 970 is the minimum required for VR, and as i had a 970 until i upgraded to a 2070 - it wasnt a nice experience on a 970
Stop, you said computers at Best Buy could not run VR
Now you're getting off on to some other tangent
Can you stick with one opinion?
you know exactly what i meant, i didnt mean "can run vr at 5fps"
I'm done with you. I don't think you're approaching this discussion in good faith
rofl you're hilarious
Have fun laughing to yourself
nah to busy laughing at you
What's with this server and constant fights i-
Yeah, the index Discord is a lot more welcoming
Why just end the conversation like that though? Tom had a good point, nobody is gonna want to run vr at 5 fps. Not taking sides here either, I agree with both of you on different points. I'm kinda in the middle here. I think VR is getting pretty damn close to being mainstream in the PC market, but isnt 100% mainstream yet due to the overall cost of all the hardware needed.
My issue was that the goal post was being moved and that the five frames per second is a hyperbolic example
and you don't get 5 fps with a 970
you won't play at max settings for sure but it won't be a stuttering mess either
exaggerating stuff to prove a point is not a good way to have a proper discussion about this
That's making an argument in bad faith
And people who do that aren't exactly inclined to stop once they're proven wrong
I understand, but I feel like he was just trying to add in more factors to the situation. Sure 5 fps is hyperbolic, but lets put that at a realistic 75 fps that I get sometimes with my 1070. I get sick at that framerate
@golden olive I also have a Odyssey+ and I've tried it with the default settings and it seems to work for everything, joystick movement, jump, action menu on hold etc. I did notice that the default bindings did not apply until I toggled the slider back and forth once: https://imgur.com/a/d2I9y5A
i have a 1080 and i7 but get 40 fps in desktop mode and 30 in vr
I would say it's a you problem, without being rude
The point he was trying to make was that a computer couldn't run VR. Even at 75 frames per second. Is running
which i7?
idk but i lag so much and i also have everyones avatar hidden
are you using auto resolution?
And as far as the cost of getting into VR, all someone has to do is not buy that new iPhone or Android
I don't hide anything. which is probably why i never go above 45 fps 👀
yes and i even lower it too
People have disposable income, they just prioritize spending it on different things
Some wasted on alcohol, some waste on Magic the Gathering cards
my next priority is a new PC with the 3080 👁️
have you tried other VR games?
Ima try and get a 3090. I have to consult my wallet to see if its gonna work or not lol
Disposable income is kinda beside the point though. It doesn't matter what they spend it on. The only thing that matters here is the fact that people are not buying VR due to not having enough extra money laying around to buy it. Anything else they spend it on is irrelevant. When I was saving up for VR my car kept having problems which cost me a lot of money that otherwise would have gone toward VR, but like I said, that's irrelevant because the bare fact is that I didn't have enough money to buy it. If it was cheaper I could have.
why 3090 ?
I don't believe the solution ought to be lowering the prices of the equipment. I think the solution ought to be that you need to save
Nah companies not making a profit is the goal
yeah just save?? like bruh
I don't think this means that VR is inaccessible. It means people are prioritizing
2070 super, 200% resolution Valve Index, 120 fps in small crowds. 3090 is a big waste of money.
depend for what you use it for
if it's only for gaming then yeah, it's waste
if you do renders and simulations + gaming then it's a good investment
The value you're getting for that 3090
definitely 3090
what if you arleady have all that stuff
@languid beacon Can i just get a shit ton of Gromit mugs instead?
Definitely Overkill
again, depend on what you use it for
You get the bang for the buck
the difference between 3080 and 3090 is not big enough to justify the 800$ more id have to spend
Are we looking at the same numbers?
700 for a 3080, 1500 for a 3090
Is getting a 3090 pratical? Not at all. But its bigger and better and i want it.
I just choose to stay slightly behind on GPU power and constantly save money buying it all when it’s cheaper
That's the way I am with CPUs typically
i still rock my "old" 7600k
mean while im just waiting for amd then to see if nvidia pushes out new versions of the cards.. cause why buy whats now then get mad when theres better refined stuff
If you have champagne budget
is vr worth it or is it a gimmick + the new rtx cards
way games are going these days having an i9 is not a bad thing.. some channels are recommending R9 and I9's for the future of things
“VR is just a fad.” - someone four years ago
Ray tracing is gonna take a while still but eventually it will be there
Just like vr
Ahh... Well the new cards are enough to make me want to replace my Radeon VII, so yeah they're worth it. As for vr, it's still a growing market, but the recent changes are worrying, like with HTC and forcing Oculus users to use Facebook
i kinda wanna see RT in VR
As is tradition
You just need enough games to do VR right and do ray tracing right for it to be worth
and watch it lag
and apparantly Oculus isnt selling in germany anymore
I feel like Facebook forcing Oculus users to make Facebook accounts is a good thing. Because it’s totally going to be Facebook‘s downfall, and I really don’t want them to become the king of VR anyway.
exactly
Well that's certainly one way to look at it
lets just get loud at the Oculus Connect 7 and let them know that we do not want that
only because its a big company doesnt mean they can do anything they want
will they care? No-
The only way Oculus will get that message is if their sales for Christmas are poor
You need to hit corporations in the wallet for them to learn anything
The issue is that there aren't a lot of manufacturers that do their own thing, so even if one manufacturer makes a mistake, like with Oculus right now or HTC's Cosmos, it impacts everybody significantly
Its true that most avid tech users are also big VR fans
But that is slowly not being true anymore with all the parrents getting it for there kids and young teens getting it themself
im pretty sure facebook is selling the quest and rift s at a loss anyway
the data they get is far more important to them anyway
doubt they are selling it at a loss, but for sure without insane direct profits
I think the index is sold at a loss as well isn't it?
they can use my data when i get a share of the money they make with it
They have said that being the market leader in the new biggest industry was worth throwing money at so
Or was that just half-life alyx
There’s a chance their new quest 2 with Horizons will get the same viral popularity that the Wii had, if they manage to do that, we’re all in trouble, but then again setting up a Wii didn’t require a smartphone, internet connection, and require make a Nintendo account, so... it’s not gonna be the next Wii.
But the internet's much more commonplace now than back then
@languid beacon The Wii got sold because it looked cool
The quest will also get sold because of that
Mom and day dont know the difference between PS5 and Xbox one.
Its what the kid yelled for or what the sales person said was dope. Both of those groups are not smart
All I know is that right now, I'm not in a situation where I can even consider upgrading anything, be it for vr or my computer. I have to focus much more on my classes now because passing my classes right now means either becoming an English teacher or wasting another year of my life doing the same thing as before.
Kids are more informed nowadays than they used to be
It's possible a kid does his research and knows what to ask for
Kids are more informed nowadays than they used to be
@sterile ingot Not sure what kids you know then
Most people at my engineering education dont even know why X is bad because that someone smarter said it was
Logging in with facebook that tracks data is bad. But i doubt most can properly explain it why its bad beside that they sell the data.
@naive pecan Call the cops and dont bring it in here
Massive data collection may need to be addressed but it isn't bad
If by bad we mean illegal
There's just something scary about Facebook Gathering that data
Facebook does not have a good track record
number 15 burger king foot lettace
The oculus has cameras right?
yep
Yeah I wouldn't trust facebook with that
which exact oculus? The rift s and quest have them built into the cameras, the cv1 has (I think infrared only) cameras that you put in your room. The go doesnt have any
They cant use it like an normal camera though- Or well, not directly
The original Rift CV1 one had WebCams that you placed in the corners of your room watching you at all times. Quest and Rift S don’t, they do have outward facing cameras on the headset though
And im not talking about the normal camera but the IR and ect ones
IR cameras are still regular cameras. You can pull a visible light photo from them just fine it will just be in black-and-white
The last oculus I owned was a dk1 lol. I trust the lighthouses for vive and index because of how they work
Someone wrote a simple driver that pulled a black-and-white video feed from all of his oculus sensors
lighthouse is much more reliable than the cv1 tracking anyways
@languid beacon Oh yea, but its ineffective to use large scale.
Thats why i said they cant use it directly
Like IR camera's often get used to map out rooms and stuff
CV1 tracking isnt bad
CV1 tracking was actually damn good for what it had
its not bad, but the amount of problems i had with it wasnt normal
CV1 tracking hands down was the best tracking ive ever seen beats lighthouse by far. I miss it. don’t @
sensor not found, headset not found, detects usb3 port as usb2 port, random tracking losses
some chipsets are problematic with high bandwith devices
this is not oculus exclusvive tho
@languid beacon Pre software updates on the lighthouses, yea
OG vive houses where whack at times with tracking
I still use lighthouse today and it’s still not as good CV1 tracking. Two Version 2 base stations 1.0’s
(9 red dots)
Make sure everything from the controllers to the houses are up to date then
I once had them not send a msg to update untill i did some manual stuff
Will be checking that today since I have a new base station coming in the mail.
I do suspect one of my base stations has always been faulty
Oh yea, i used to play with one base station at times because i was too lazy to set them up properly
It was not enjoyable at all
Stuff felt so botched
The game is way too heavy on VR, even with RTX 2080 and 32gb ram, will they fix this ?
only 60-70% CPU used but keeps crashing and 5-10 fps on public worlds
no
A lot of the CPU bottle neck are DB Calculations and such.
The game runs fine for me most of the time but sometimes it crawls to a halt or crashes, I'm not sure why... I suspect it's someone intentionally crashing it but not sure.
Make sure when checking CPU usage that 60%-70% total CPU usage doesn't mean individual cores can be saturated already.
@steel ingot Get people to optimize there crap and your set for a nice 90fps in 20 pop rooms
Don't use VRC to gauge your fps . . .
use the minimum performance rank, people don't care about making their avatars efficient so you have to set a rank yourself
people dont care about avatar optimization, but as soon as you dont optimize your world perfectly, you are an idiot for not optimizing
thats how society works 
this says a lot about society
we truly live in a society
確かに
🤔
I optimize my avatars except it still hates me because I use hidden props that count against me
If there is an LPD why isn't there an SPD?
What’s the S stand for?
Shota
:ehh: why did I ask
I didn't know, I thought it was obvious
I forgot that they were gendered terms j thought it just meant kid
you can make one
Not sure that's worth my time
the LPD has been around for a while already (and Lolis are better than Shotas)
Uhm, what is this conversation
also the SPD is a party in germany (Sozialdemokratische Partei Deutschland)
Kid anime characters are cute and all but I find the whole “lewding” meme creepy AF tbh
Loli means little girl, shota means little boy afaik
...Toilet lights?
...Yez
That looks relaxing asf
that looks premium
That toilet has a quest to give
@vestal imp You're a Brazil person?
am i ?
...apparently

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?
@vestal imp The Japanese in your nameeee
Hnnng
why are you moaning
Thats not a moan, it a noise of frustration
dont attempt to deceive me, i know thats a moan
Nu
What is this conversation
Haha
Brazil person over there is being all cryptic and spooky
🤔
Yeah
Anyway, I need to get back to work, but @vestal imp, when I get back, you shall answer my questions pumpkin
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what
What? #2
What part 2 electric boogaloo

Sorry, not a Loli 😔
I’m a loli trap if you like both
So many traps
Hello
does anyone here know why ever ssince the latestest update i cant load into a world without it freezing usually at only a few mb downloaded?
i properly removed the symlink
deleted everything cache and all and reinstalled the game
my internet is fine
Well the devs don't actually respond there but my advice is delete the config file for the cache
Oh wait vrchat support not user support what a dumbass lol
So many traps
@sterile ingot You have no idea man...
vanilla still a ray of sunshine as always
I've seen worse attitudes
Not sure if this is the right channel to ask, and this is oddly specific. But does anyone know off hand where I could find Kingdom Hearts Goofy avatar in game? I've checked all the Kingdom Hearts avatar worlds that come up in search and surprisingly not a single one has Goofy. Just thought Id throw this out there in case someone knows a world.
I just got timed out for all the sudden. Was I being AFK for 5 minutes, or that's just a bug?
@vestal imp Alright you loli loving nug, time for your interrogation.
😳
@vestal imp SO! You are Brazilian, correct?
yeah catching up on the messages on this channel has left me more confused than when I started 
Somebody_else at least state your own ethinicity before asking others 
No.
Fine Brazilian Person, I shall (sort of) answer the question for you.
Your Discord name is Burajiru Hito.
Bu ra ji ru. Japanese romaji, the English equivalents being B ra zi l.
And the word "hito" means person.
no one cares
ブラジル人 being your name in Japanese
@gilded spade blocked.
Actually, I'm tired now, @grim tusk you finish this story.
can you guys tell me how much is full body tracking in vrchat?
Pfthahaha, cheers bub
perfect story 
anytime 
can you guys tell me how much is full body tracking in vrchat?
cant help soz Im on that pc mastterace
oh okay 😭
@lilac bolt If you already have a Lighthouse HMD (Vive, Vive Pro, Index, Cosmos Elite, Pimax) then you just need three trackers, so around $300.
@lilac bolt deppends on your headset
Yes, I am !!
it can be from 300 to 700 or more
If you're using something else (Rift, Rift S, WMR) and have to go mixed mode it'll me more as you need at least one lighthouse.
I dont know why yall bother doing other peoples research for them
Because it's simple information we already know
Not like I'm taking time to search up the details of what's needed for what. I already know.
Also rule 17 is often overlooked.. if you don’t wanna answer, just don’t. But this is a support discord. People are here to ask questions, that’s the main reason it exists.
@languid beacon oh yeah, excellent point
Obscure question, but.
Anyone know of an avatar that says bedtime stories somewhere on it?
Or something related
You mean an avatar that tells bedtime stories like a Teddy Ruxpin avatar or something? Just an avatar that literally has the words “ bedtime stories” written on it?
Well
I'm going to be reading people bedtime stories
So something that shows that I'm available to read to you, if that makes sense
My mind immediately goes to a granny in a rocking chair
I mean. I've been called wholesome enough that I may as well be
But also a deep soothing male voice isn't what you'd expect from granny
well Jesus in a rocking chair in this case 
Well
I guess I know what I need to make now
jesus are you french?
for real are you french?
But I also will respond to people in the language they speak to me, so if you saw a Jesus speaking french that could've potentially been me
i met a french jesus once in shrine temple
Grandpa in a rocking chair
Rocking grandpa in a chair
Chair on a rock, grandpa-ing
Rock in a grandpa, chairing
Chock in a randpa, grairing
Randpa chocking in a grair
Rairck anand I chockpa gring
Is it ever?
true
😜
usually just emotes really 
Blub blub blub

@rough pulsar i don't have those T w T
West Virginia, almost heaven
am i the only filipino here?
yes am mate
you serious?
🤔
Hell yea i'll give you through mail
do you know you can marry a 12yrs old in the Philippines cause that's the age of consent
how do i go there
plane my friend
knock knock knock
FBI, OPEN UP!
👢🚪💥
theres no fbi in the philippines
FBI have arrived'
You didn't know everywhere is america?
12 years old are in the rules jesus 😎
ha the fbi. can't arrest us filipinos BOI
show me where in your book says i cant marry 12 years old, jesus 😎
Also, actually, there is American FBI in the Philippines
you know jesus is actually our god
thats like rpg cheating
Unfortunately the book written in my name suggests child marriage is a good choice
mine too i'm christian
Also, actually, there is American FBI in the Philippines
@coral crater theres not
There is. It's called embassies.
why wouldnt it be
This isn't a conversation I'm having in a vrchat server.
mate a lived in the Philippines since birth and i never seen a fbi agent in here!!
Ever been to the US embassy in the Philippines?
all i want is a foreign girlfriend 😔✊
almost actually
almost
Ok so no
There's FBI agents stationed in it btw
all i ask of you is marriage minty 😔 👉🏻 👈🏻
why dow?
aren't you a girl as well?
🤔
am i?
Are you?!

Everyone on the internet is a man.
yep
why do you think i wanted to go to the philippines, to meet shotas? 
um yes?
how did you know 

how old are u bae 😎
I desparately need my FBI emojis
I need my funny images!
how do you know that
Bad words bad


jesus stop this blasphemy
everyone disliked that
naughty
i almost lost my simp'athy for you m'lady.
🤔 

again bad words bad
I'm fairly certain it got removed from profanity
Mebbe am wrong tho
so you can say f but not d?
like fuck the birds that steal my food
thats real big brain
heh im really horny can someone give me holy water pls
no can do
thats every month
You must accept obscure HL2 facts and trivia first.
sorry minty, you're going to horny jail.
@vestal imp nooo
horny jail can't stop meh uwu
🤔
Can we not 
Jesus is dissatisfied by this conversation
everyone is disappointed
everyone is disappointed
@vestal imp
am done being horny haha
Further showcasing of such activity would result in an assignment to Hongo.
how do you say ur name is it like lemonias or lemonias
would result in you coming to brazil 
🤔

Lemon-eye-us
Is how I say it in my head
Good.
i say it Lem-o-nias
its free m'lady
death
Your soul.
Sounds like a mythological name
yes
it only costs intangible things, like your lifetime
I like names with no search results.
oh?
indeed
Well if you become famous then there is a result
give up humanity
embrace monke
anyone wanna commit vr genocide
only so can thy play vrchat.
Your soul
Your sexual preferences if you're male
Your social life
Your free time
And your mental stability
Is the cost for your average vrchat player
.>
if youre male?
cool
i play vr chat and i dont lose the things jesus lost
thats sexist jesus
Lemonias what is your popular name 
i play vr chat and i dont lose the things jesus lost
@hollow warren you haven't played vrchat enough
Lemonias is secretly Tupper in disguise
Classified!
hmmm well ima just go re crucify jesus
You know tuppers gotta have an alt
Also I needa let you know I have gigabit now so respawn time will be much less than 1997 years
Lemonias I will find out one day 
It depends how hard you look.
Lemme check for 60 seconds, brb
Well I am blind LOL
May I get a hint Lemonias
a
its the name backwards
Get your free ttv's
Ok so after a brief stint of research, your popular name is Lemon Pansy
am bored any game suggestions you guys?
among us
Hmmmmm
The butterfly otherwise known as the lemonias lmao
among us is a beast
indeed
Looking into it, it has something to do with half life
am bored any game suggestions you guys?
@lilac bolt Half-Life. 👀
how about minecraft
N A H
@modern harbor any chance i got it right??
Minecraft is garbage
how could you
Not quite.

I know that guy, he's cool.
Minecraft is garbage
that thing sinned
If I were to search it up, would it have thousands or hundreds of views?
Depends which video.
Pewdiepie

JK LOL
Minecraft is garbage
Well that's where ya lost me bucko
How many more hints can I get
If I searched it up, how old would it be?
I looked it up >.>
There is one name that comes up, but has no correlation to "get your free tv's" 
Idk why I am so motivated to find this out xD
AHhHHH I dont know! xDD
Nah.
Mega thinking rn
Accept the request you f00l!
I have a quarter million views
I did!!!
I should probably start making videos lmao
jesus make a video about how to deal with heretics 
Uh
I mean
I could
But here's the thing
I absolutely and completely hate religion in it's current form and full heartedly believe it's a meme (in the technical sense not the haha funny sense) that human beings no longer require so should just die off
So to me, the heretics are those who put fiction over humanity
well i'm christian so my opinion diverses from that of yours 
Oh shit.
Ah, so as you well know after that, I fully and totally think you're an idiot for believing in magic. But, to each their own.
Rule 5. No politics or religious discussions, or related images
👀
My bad, I'll stop
is there a meme server here?
Yeh, it's called the vrchat discord
oh okay can i say a prayer here? to all sinners here?
No
Rule 5. No politics or religious discussions, or related images
nanj
Pretty explicit rule
Should ban all people with 666 in username.
lungfish 666?
Definitely ban me while they're at it lmao. But nah, I can't imagine usernames would even come close to that; only issue I'd imagine there would be explicit language in a username
Why wouldn't they
Why would they
They invoke religious imagery.
And? A username isn't a discussion
am confused is this a random chat or vrchat general cause we're talking random thing here
Oh
Yeh
This chat can be whatever you want
That feels like all the general chats
You're getting it
general randomness
I literally just pick a chat and stick in it
dont just call me an idiot ³_³
As that topic violates Rule 2 feel free to DM me with your concearns
#general-media is the cool place because you can send images there.
Best guess I came up with the other day is the influx of new players
help meh what's 2 x 25
50 m'lady
225
It's a sad day when a Trusted User is using hacks...
Like, the physics manipulation type hacks. Flying, picking people up and throwing them etc.
sounds strange. interesting, but like why hack a social sim game.
Exactly.
Some people are just buttholes that want to ruin the experience for everyone else by annoying them.
Hello
It's like, you finally find a public instance in a less popular world, and it's just some guy hacking and throwing everyone else around.
Pfft. I have 2FA enabled, good luck trying to hack me.
What
Just ranting about some random hacker ruining the only public instance of a world.
I rarely ever find hackers in more populated worlds, it's always new/less popular ones.
Unfortunately, since VRChat runs on Unity, and lacks anticheat, it's painfully easy to mod.
so like how tf2 is also hacker infested? :v
Valve has been cracking down on that recently.
Bruh I join vrchat and made a account and got to the discord and find this
Oh... I probably didn't just make the best first-impressions about the game did i?
Hacker vs hacker?
The stuff you can do with this game is amazing, but you do have to be careful when going to public worlds, there are those people who just want to watch the world burn.
The best thing to come from the TF2 hackings are the ending memes.
Yeah
and they might be able to take your avatar even if its private and you have clone off
Although, I'm not sure if they actually were hacking. They might have just been abusing Avatars 3.0 functionality to do things you normally aren't supposed to.
Dog poop
Fuck, I also just joined
Welcome
Thanks :)
Don't let the hacker problem turn you away. What you can do with this game is amazing. Just enter public worlds at your own risk.
What do the vrhackers even do? Steal information?
bros
Oh ok
Not in-game anyways.
Fuck
You don't seem very pleased
Im not sure what youre talking about, cus there is both
Ingame report options, and propper tickets at https://help.vrchat.com/new
In the police station
provided conclusive proof?
poop!
Oh wait, there is an in-game reporting function?
Often the issue with reports not ending up in a result is no clear proof provided.
Can someone be my e girlfriend
That's what OBS is for.
Getting rejected with silence. Thanks
ya aint gonna be recording everything 24/7 just because incase you catch one random thing
shadowplay, save last 30min
I'm an invisible man
OBS has a feature similar to instant replay from Shadowplay
It's understandable that not everyone can record, but you need to just as much anderstand that if there is nothing that can prove of bad actions, there is nothing the vrchat team can do.
Else people would go and blame random people for random things.
No traces of me or anything
Proof sadly is important. 
And just like that I'm gone this the wind
This game really does need an anticheat solution tho, you wouldn't think a social sim would need one, but one this popular does.
It's easy said then done tho. 
Especially in a user made content game.
What is open source? VRChat isn't.
Goodbye B1ueberry...
An anticheat wouldn't be THAT hard to implement, all they do is block hacks from running, they aren't tied to the game code itself (unless it's a REALLY strict one).
hey um which version of unity and blender should I use for making an avatar?
an anticheat is not a setting you turn on and it "just works" tho 
Anticheats usually observe and predict behaviour and detect anomalies
And anti cheat's are just as bypassable as anything else.
Yeah, but it'll at least keep the novice hackers out.
I know I'm talking to a mod here, so I'm not going to start an argument over this, i respect your opinion.
the game/avsdk requires unity 2018.4.20f1 and I don't think there is a specified blender version afaik @opal vector
thank you
Any blender version will do, ideally one that support the CATS blender plugin 
@finite steppe constructive conversations are always welcomed 
The VRChat team already has some kind of automated mechanics in place, like for example detections of ban evasions and such.
just wondering because was trying to use the sdk on a 2017 version and it broke so there is my answer
Oh, yeah make sure you follow a tutorial on the current version
ideally you find a avatar 3.0 tutorial
That is the new way to do things, im sure the community already made some tutorials for it tho. 
If you just start out, it's good to learn the newest standarts 
Sorry to divert this back to hacking but...is there nothing you can do to protect yourself in a public world? I read a comment a little while ago from someone who said "never enter VRC unless you're using a vpn". Does that make sense?
You definitely dont need that
You can, if you really want to, but it's not required. 
Hackers CAN get your IP address, my brother got doxxed by someone a while back.
Thank you, I had really wondered about that (although with both comments I'm now confused).
IP address isn't as big of a deal as people make it out to be. It's public domain
Usually "hackers" will try to look its registered geolocation up and try to call you out on where you live by naming you a closeish area (but often even different city), but thats about as precise as that gets. 
The thing is, they got his EXACT location when they doxxed him.
Ok, I think I'm not too protective of my VPN (if I shoot someone in VRC I don't think I'm going to jail). But someone in the comments above mentioned damage to their modem? Physical damage to hardware can occur? Could someone install a virus/trojan? Sorry these are pretty basic questions I guess.
Luckily, no-one else was close enough to hear them.
They got it somewhere else then, because your IP ends up at some of your ISP's locations. 
*oops not protective of my VPN I mean protective of my IP address.
The guy got triggered because my brother blocked one of his friends that was annoying him, so he doxxed him then DDoS'ed us.
The best you can do is dont react, go offline and have then move on.
That was the worst DDoS attempt ever tho, all we had to do was restart the router.
That also works often, 
That's all most ddos attacks do 
It's a denial of service attack. Just spamming the bandwidth. They're not hacking your modem or installing any viruses
Needless to say, the guy got reported.
You will need to be able to provide sufficient proof, this is the case for ANY place you report thigns to, not just VRChat.
Thanks I understand that now (modem & DDoS)
He wasn't even using any in-game hacks, he was just one of those wannabe hackers that get your IP address and call your location out in an attempt to scare you.
@finite steppe you said you have 2FA enabled that protects you now?
Makes it so if they find out my password, they still need physical access to my PC to get a authentication code.
@hard needle in some cases the outputlog can proof some things
sadly else there is only really videos/screenshots.
2 factor authentication. thanks! and Anegelika sorry I derailed your question.
wait so are all blender 2.8 version compatible with cats plugin
Yeah.
Not sure if they've updated it for Blender 2.9 tho.
How long does it usually take to get to User rank? I've been stuck at New User for a while now. Got 162 hours of play time according to Steam.
I guess only having 2 people on my friends list is going to make that harder?
I've also been uploading a lot of content, but it's all private, so not sure if it contributes to anything.
Not having many friends slows it down a lot and I'm not sure if the privacy setting for avatars/worlds affects rank
For use with VRchat does anyone recommend a modmic wireless?
Any mic is good
hear about new DCMA about copy write music on stream (You need permission now) or else twitch can mute or ban you ???
It's between that, and just removing the headphones on my headset and using a built microphone on my gaming headphones.
point and laugh at me, no money for any mic, haha poor.
knock knock
@tacit trail That's sort of what I do and honestly not a bad way to use a mic
Someone told me to get a HyperX Cloud Alpha mic made by Kingston. And if I couldn't afford it, get anything from Logitech. And then his friend said she's used an iphone mic. I have a $30 plantronics headset with mic and it seems ok.
Sorry all that works on desktop.
The thing is as long as you have a functioning mic you're good in this game
I guess a Goofy avatar exists no where in game lol
even if its static-y and makes you sound like an xbox live cod kid?
Makes it better
hey so I keep trying to find avatars so I can edit them and I cant find any fbx file ones anyone know were I can get some
and any unity packages I have I cant seem to improt to blender am I missing something or just beeing dumb
I guess a Goofy avatar exists no where in game lol
@blazing adder a public one maybe not, but the model files will probably exist somewhere
Thats really weird theres no public one, especially in all the KH avatar worlds lol. But I guess I'd have to upload one to Blender then Unity and all that?
If there isnt a public one id assume youd have to upload one yourself
Hm, and Im not at that level of user that can upload avatars. Guess I'll have to wait a while.
Thank you for replying though! Much appreciated.
Np :)
I definitely remember seeing one in the meme avatar worlds
@devout island Dont remember the name of the world?
Not really all I remember is it had a danny devito image
@devout island problem is it's also for streaming
Have you heard how good the quality is, as long as it doesn't sound like you're in an echo chamber its fine
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Does anyone know where howls moving castle skins can be found? Ive never seen any around.
BTW does anyone know a way to reduce Wifi/Data consumption in Vr Chat cause it took like 1 GB or Wifi in 30 mins 😂 i dont have that much data to spare or is it like that for u guys as well
Always like that depends on the worlds you go
Or how many people are in the server
oh shit do u guys have like unlimited data or something
A home connection usually does not have a data cap.
If you are metered, you can change the max avatar download size.
But that does mean you see less people ofc. (And VRChat wil lstill use quite a bit.)
Sometimes it does
Does someone know how I disable VRchat safemode, I accidently enabled it.
I didnt even know that such thing exists
hmm, go to the safety settings and try to put it on normal or smth
I just posted a canny relating to an issue with test avatars and I would greatly appreciate it if people would vote it up please.
https://vrchat.canny.io/avatar-30/p/bug-switching-into-test-avatars-is-broken-and-affects-loading-worlds-as-well
I finally managed to create my own island. After shrinking it by 4 to 1, I decided to take a walk around it. I think it's roughly the size of Australia. 😛
no trees yet, just terrain, some grass, water and sky. it's 95 MB.
@devout island oh my god I found that world AND the Goofy avatar. His ears are kinda borked but ill take it if hes the only one lol. Thanks !
just upload the entirety of flight simulator 2020 on a map
there ya go, one matrix to go

Rip
@blazing adder Yeah also try his gestures he's got nice moves
new goof bootin'
Its too bad his ears are all janked. You think they would've fixed that lol
Since when were people able to see that you hid their avatar
A while back
Why do you care?
hey guys
imagine if you could see common friends
ikr
i'm stuck in an avatar
can't even open menu or menu's not showing up
I need a mod to change this avatar ;~;
oh nvm
Ctrl + / helped
fuckin broken avatars
That moment when someone activates music right when you spawn so five people block me
I hate it
pp
Big pp energy
😮
.
PP
anyone have some super well made skins with emotes i can trade to?
skins ?
avatars*
get @vocal shard can u add me on discord again?
I need a friend and just got vr chat any one wanna be friends
Do all the experienced people hang out in private worlds?
BadBuddhaJack, VRChat gives you the perfect opportunity to go out and meet new people
@sage pewter i do and friends because a lot of people arent nice or just mess around with crash avis or dumb shaders, sometimes we look for new people that are chill and cool^^
I would be that perfect candidate
@steel jetty Yeah ill head on vrc soon so we can all hang out together^^ I just got a vr headset aswell yesterday so ill prob chill in an ASL world
I’ve finally haven’t been lazy and I’m making my own custom
An Age/Sex/Location World?
It's a classic internet meme from the America Online days
Hahaa
I'm showing my age here
No prob
@keen plover just dm or @ me when u on
@steel jetty My ingame name is the same as here ill tell you when im on steam vr, also for everyone i might play with, pls dont use effect avis in my worlds, because i easily get hurting eyes
Asl, I see you also speak MySpace 
Yeah im learning a bit day by day, theres a world for that aswell its really cool
@steel jetty avatar
Oh oh
Hi, I hope someone easy can tell me whats wrong so I dont have to submit a ticket 
I went into VRC this morning and wanted to try to set up stream-cam.. but my VRC started acting weird and now I cant click anything with my right controller or move stuff.
Did I fuck something up somewhere? Pretty sure I didnt touch much.
@night badge I can only say its vrc itself that makes probs, usually restarting should work but idk eggcactly
Yeah I restarted it twice.. so I thought it was a setting or something maybe.
I will try look again a bit later then :3 Ty
are you able to unlink a vrchat account from steam, does friends added from vrchat account stay on steam account
was vket4 parareal tokyo temporary?
anybody here friends with pers?
Imma go get some hot cake
Ok im on you can add me in a sec@steel jetty
anyone have some cool well made avatars with emotes to trade?
@keen plover 10 min I got so pancakes
i input my age on a new steam account to open and play vrchat. and i get this https://imgur.com/a/SEX2Hvc
am i suppose to lie and put in other age?
its an online store used to sell things (like VRchat avatars)
and many other things too
in internet?
yeah? where else should it be?
hey @vocal shard can you accept my friend request i wanna ask you something in dm's
pm not mp
.pm, not .mp
how dumb?
infinite
can i like get any help ?
Hi foreign. i'm learning to English
Woah lion King 
1994 bro,
I'm going to watch your chat and study!
That should be fine then
Because i want to be a foreigner
i only made the account since i cant unlink my old steam with a new vrchat account since i already have one linked im deleting (13 days left) and now i cant even link my account so will stay visitor forever.
Hmm I don't have experience with two accs unfortunately
I only know how to use one and the bind it so that might be the complication for you
I have a 2nd account and I haven't played on it since I created it lol
You could submit a support ticket tho 🤷♂️
^ I'd try to contact support
I forgot why I even made one in the first place
its not about having an account or not, its about havint to verify your age that dont work so you cant login to upgrade and link steam to vrchat account
ill try to reinstall steam, but would i need to reinstall my games too?
Reinstall vrc only I meant
nekotaku wtf u doin
ye still there xd
writing big post ._.
u makin a whole a§§ novel there
haha
I hope it's ok. but I think I gotta take a shit before I post it so I can respond easier X3
LOL
oh nvm Nintendo Direct
Where's the best place to request people to make a vrchat avatar from scratch? Original character that is
Hey could anyone help me find a world with an in-game watch screen? Preferably one that is like a lounge for some “Netflix and chill?”
🍉
A lotta worlds have video players like summer solitude
"Rest and Sleep" also does, and it's cozy
Or room of rain
How do I choose which world to jump into? I’m in the welcome lounge now
Or hangout house has two screens
You press escape for menu then > worlds button > top right search
Also is there one that’s like a bar? A lounge bar where we could watch some eSports matches and feel cool like da bears
Then type a key word like house or bar and it will show words via world search
Professor oak I’ve loved you since Kanto
Thanks RLA I appreciate the support
You are awesome 🤯
I don't go to bars much so not sure about bar + video player
Most bars have dance spaces and mirrors not video players so that's harder to find just use the world search tho
And try a lot of worlds you might find one eventually
Something that would give people a good feeling watching eSports - lounge or pub or something?
video players break most of the time anyway
Yeah the cinema room is ground floor
The door is dark to find but it's behind your spawn so don't go up and don't go to pool tables @broken thunder
Just look behind you on spawn and there's a door to a dark hallway
Then there's a video player 🎦
Were you doing anything to annoy them?
I litteraly joined
Or are they mutes?
is there like voice chat channels?
Some ppl are shy or only want to talk to their existing friends
No there's no voice chat here as server is too big to moderate
k
voicechat is the game
Another thing, are you sure it's picking up your voice?
Are you new? Some people have grey players muted altogether, but I think thats kinda rare.
You can tell if someone muted you they will have ear icon
^
So I’m in summer solitude and there is a door but it’s closed ?
The movie room door?
I dont remember if that world was rebuilt with udon, but if so, it might be blocked off because the video player doesnt work with udon
I'm studying English after watching your conversation i think it will be a good study
i just noticed i have 20 gigs cache
You can thank the avatar creators that make over 200mb avatars, assuming you didnt clear the cache after the 200mb+ limit
Still cant believe people use avatars that are larger than some worlds
I limited mine to 20mb because my internet is slow but that still takes me like 20 minutes to load
per avatar
What's a good processor for vrchat, I was originally gonna go for a Ryzen 5 3600 but my build is going slightly over budget and I'm looking into making some savings so idk if it's a good idea to get a cheaper processor or not.
There is no 'good' processor for VRchat, the better the processer the better it is for all games.
VRC performance is highly depending on the users in the room and how optimized there avatars are.
i9 10900k is the minimum to not have frame drops to 10fps when loading into void club
Threadripper
can confirm. My i5 3470 is dying whenever I think about playing vrchat
my 7600k is planning on killing me for some time now
What about in desktop mode how well would a cheaper processor work for vrc
@regal furnace Ah shit my Xeon W-3175X isnt good enough?
the processor and the graphics card are the most important components for a pc. So maybe you can cheap out somewhere else?
something something a carboard box is also an case
save money on Hard drives and case
Currently the hard Drive I'm looking it as about £60 and the case is £56
how do i turn off one hand movement?
in the options in the radial menu
ok i will look for that, thanks
hi hi
how come alot of avatar creators take assets from other games like sims or imvu and dont get in trouble? they also take avatars from others and change only a few things then sell them. worlds like yuumi's avatar world, ya_ri avatar world, godfall's cozy kumui avatars, evans avatar world and so many more. they sell these avatars with stolen stuff like face meshes, chains,hats,hair,clothes and shaders. how are they still not banned?
because no one really cares
i thought it was against tos though
Lol
wait doesn't yuumi make them from scratch?
Elo
no
they pretend to do that
they don't pretend anything ?
most avatar creators do
Mostly because the content creator isnt getting paid by vrc so no one really takes action.
The vast majority of Yuumi's stuff isn't even close to being made from scratch.
If the IP holder takes action then they get taken down VRChat doesn't really need to do much else except comply to DMCAs
The person who uploads the content clicks the checkbox to verify they made it and that's enough for VRChat not the get in trouble
It's packed full of MMD and game assets.
But ofc the IP holder can sue the person using their content
^
the ip holder?? wtf u mean
Whoever holds the right to the model/content
yes but they took parts from other people's avatars so its hard to find everyone that they stole from
I doubt most of those people hold the IP either
I know i dont lol
I sometimes wonder what a lot of people seem to think "from scratch" means. Will see it asked so often in blatantly inapplicable places.
One of my worlds is nearly from scratch.
The majority of content creators don't take directly from other peoples avatars. They just all use the same pool of assets, either from them being shared around the community or due to them being the easiest to find from other sources.
please remove the restart to clear cash that dumb update
Eg, Halloween rolls around, and you will see the same 10 or so assets used, simply due to them being what shows up on the first page of deviant art when you search "MMD Halloween".
they actually do take from other avatars so?? they rip them and take parts like hats, chains and more
some of us use cashe to remove lag
That's a pretty harsh and baseless accusation to just throw onto the majority of creators.
Examples of many avatars using the same common assets, yes. Examples of ripping from VRC players, no.
i hate how you have to restart clear cache.
So what's with the stupidity of having to restart your game just to clear your cache?
i know right
mine wont even clear
i have like 20 gbs
you have to restart it t clear
i did
@vocal shard Clearing your cache doesn't remove or effect lag, unless your cache is on your C drive AND it's already max at capacity.
yah staff did dumb move
You don't need to spam clear the cache. Won't do anything.
Honestly if they fixed the memory leakage, this wouldn't be an issue
remove the restart to clear cache
Can tell you with experience that it will work a lot better if you clear the cache and its on your C drive
you and i both know noodalie that no one dose that in c drive they use vrchat for that
so remove the restart to clear cache that all we want
@sacred wigeon at the same time, if people took minimal effort to optimize there stuff it would not be that bad
also if you find a clear way the memory leaks happen report it as they are a bitch to find normally without community help
make us put more work to clear it dumb
Vrc by default puts the cache in your C drive, regardless where you saved the game
Unless you're running out of space to the point that windows can't make it's own cache anymore, clearing storage should make no difference.
Memory leaks effect RAM usage, not cache.
Blame lazy people for that issue
But memory leakage is actually a major issue with VRchat
What gain do you have from not having it be on restart?
Also the fact that VRchat doesn't have multi core threading
It does
No it doesn't
Perhaps, but memory leaks have zero effect on cache. That's simply not what a memory leak is.
It does
@vocal shard dont say that here vrchat hates people who say anything bad about their game, they will ban u
If that were the case, then I wouldn't have any issues with lag
and someone us dont want brake our compter try to mest with c drive!
Devs confirmed that years ago
VRC does. You can check it yourself any day.
Then it doesn't work
i have right to say this update stuck
It does, you just dont understand how games function
they dont listen to their community so it doesnt matter what u say
That stupid mutli core myth has been going around for 2+ years and has been wrong for 2+ years.
remove the restart to clear cache is dumb thing to put in it
@vocal shard and why is it dumb?
I dont thats why im asking
People with really old slow computers but fast Internet speeds get a temporary boost from clearing the cache because downloading stuff for the first time is much faster than fetching it from hard drive the second time.
see adeon get it
Thats an extreme edge case
And with how the services VRC uses its even more rare
not everone useing gameing compter
Cloudfare for sure aint really fast kekw
this is why lot of player left vrchat with updates like remove the restart to clear cache and chage vr controll
@languid beacon Ok, that explanation makes some sense.
Helps when someone actually offers an explanation rather than just repeating "it dumb" twenty times over.
@vocal shard Odd the actual usercount didnt drop then :x
then why is there less people on and yet only people who stay or kids with quest and avatar maker
The player count has only increased over time Sonic. The game recently broke it's record for peak players.
Ah yes, as anacdotal evidence like that is way more trust worthy then the actual player stats for the game.
Like just last week. 22k players. Beat the old knuckles viral wave.
you know i am truest user
yo my brain is fucking gone
ur english sucks
Yes and?
knuckles meme was better to deal with
does anyone have a cv1 cable that works that they dont want
@desert stratus That aint a good thingo
Tried stealing one?
then no no brush
vrchat need to remove remove the restart to clear cache
if vrchat dont remove the restart to clear cache i quit vrchat
You'd really quit over something that petty?
It's not even that big of a deal
If so it doesn't sound like the game really matters much to you anyway.
I haven't seen any of these "no no" users, had to look them up.
I don't know what the restart to clear cache is.
Yeah, somehow I've still never seen these brush things people talk about. ._.
Only ever seen them in a tiny handful of memes posted on discord servers.
you know most no no brush are quest user kids?
Oh your fairly lucky then squish as its fairly annoying
Even hearing/seeing it twice is blood boiling really
i sorry but this the restart to clear cache is dumb
and you cant change my mind how dumb restart to clear cache is!
you wrong it dumb
no but really im fucking desperate if a single person out there has like one fucking cv1 cable please send it to me
You still have never given any reason as to why its dumb
some people domt want mest with c drive
otherwise the ebay guy is not going to see his family again
Dude you're getting so heated over just restarting a game, kinda stupid
for one
If you are willing to quit the game over these two issues I have never encountered then I wish you luck on your future gaming endeavors.
You realizing clearing the cache just puts more work onto the Cdrive-
And you can always link it to another drive
They literally made it so you can symlink it away
for two people who dont have good compter it help them
okay now you're obviously trolling. what do you mean not mess with your C drive? you mean using your computer?
and 3 it help make thing load faster
4 there are some map that you need to clear cache to play the map as little sister maps to name one
People with really old slow computers but fast Internet speeds get a temporary boost from clearing the cache because downloading stuff for the first time is much faster than fetching it from hard drive the second time.
lmao what
horror maps

