What's why I joined this server
#vrchat-general-2
novel cliff
Is it a software or hardware problem?
novel cliff
If only vrchat fails then maybe that works?
vocal shard
try testing your mic out in other games
languid tiger
I have it works just fine
vocal shard
then that's a vrc issue or an input issue
spring citrus
Omg is that sands undertail
languid tiger
Lol
vocal shard
check you vrc settings
languid tiger
The game says that it can hear my mic but it's not doing anything
Also this headset is brand new
vocal shard
press esc > settings > then try looking in there for mic stuff
languid tiger
What does level do?
novel cliff
I have no idea, volume maybe?
languid tiger
I am going to uninstall it and reinstall it
vocal shard
do you hold v to talk?
languid tiger
Nope
novel cliff
Vrchat is not a very heavy game so try reinstalling it
Do you have the correct input settings in windows?
languid tiger
Idk
novel cliff
Okay
vocal shard
that might be the issue
languid tiger
How can I check that
vocal shard
try looking up "how to fix mic issue windows" on YouTube
languid tiger
Ok
novel cliff
Windows 10 tweaked access to the proper audio device manager
Which is... A shame
But you can still access it if you search "sounds" in the taskbar search
You should see something like this
If you right click any of those you can select them as default device and/or default communication device, if other apps work properly but vr chat doesnt that may be because the "default communication device" is not the correct one
So just look up what the correct device is (you can right click and select "test" to see if it sounds correctly and its the device you want) and select it as default
Then you can move to the mic section (second one in the top, the first one is for headphones and speakers) and repeat. For this one if you go to properties you can select the option "hear this device" and everything you say will be played back to you, that way you can check that the mic works correctly
languid tiger
Hold on my mic doesn't seem to have enough power to use it
languid tiger
Umm idk
novel cliff
Of its not a high end mic or anything there shouldn't be problems
Studio microphones do need a dedicated audio card/input for them to work because they need phantom energy currents
But if you dont know the model I dont think you have a high end studio mic
languid tiger
I figured it out
novel cliff
What was it?
dreamy badge
Can someone possibly help me with an issue ?
dreamy badge
Well
I made an avatar for quest did the whole upload process
Everything there finally went smoothly
When it told me to load vrchat to view my creation
It wasnt showing up
Yes i hqve permissions to make avatars and worlds
unborn wind
Bleh
vocal shard
wtf-
inner blade
From update notes:
- Full-Body Tracking should not track the head during locomotion to avoid leg dragging and other issues
I guess this means the old behavior of looking like a slouched gorilla while moving is back. -Sigh-
woeful spoke
Anyone else having Oculus Right Thumbstick Movement issues? I cant at all move my camera due to new update.
Or like my axis rotation I should say not camera.
grim canopy
sturdy harbor
I was so sick of hearing people complain about the new action menu, glad they found a middle ground
steep pagoda
The desktop crouch is so slow now @.@ (transition from stand to crouch)
doesn't feel right nor good. (its soooo slow compared to last update)
Also seems the emotes for sdk2 avatars is out of order lmao (my 6th emote is set as 8 in the menu)
sturdy harbor
We need to note that supporting old stuff was really never required for VRChat, at least they are trying though.
visual siren
Is anyone else getting stuck at the loading screen you get when it tells you to log in?
nova shore
🤔 I was able to get in fine, but now all my avatars are broken on desktop. They are constantly crouching a little bit, it's especially noticable on kon avatars lol
visual siren
I'm stuck in the initial loading screen that is green with floating particles. It just sits there. I restarted the game once already.
sleek crag
For VRCs, do you export worlds including all the content, or can you add multiple little objects with their own data? I'm looking at VR Chat's SDK-3 documentation, but are there any suggested polycounts?
tulip forge
@sleek crag you bake all the content into the world except for a few things that can be dynamic like Videos
(videos only in SDK2 right now but coming soon to SDK3)
sleek crag
Oh okay, so like an anim scene, you collect all of it into the single package.
tulip forge
Yep
sleek crag
I gotcha. I remember other VR ones being similar. Other simulations had them seem like you can have base scene and then optional add-ons.
tulip forge
You can dynamically show and hide stuff, and there are smart ways to generate things - just today I wandered around a procedurally generated landscape in an SDK3 world that goes forever
tulip forge
We're looking into the connection issues. May just be an unfortunately-timed networking issue unrelated to the update
sleek crag
And I'm also aware that SDK relates to both UE and Unity systems, but VRCHAT runs on Unity or am I mistaken?
tulip forge
The SDK is for Unity only. VRChat is built with Unity.
sleek crag
Ah, thanks Momo.
It's been a while since I've done any graphic modeling and exporting =u=
nova shore
@cold saddle I don't have any 3.0 avatars but all of them have broken legs as well, on desktop
sleek crag
Maybe the SDK update and game update had a parent/weight-paint issue from the family tree of the rig?
nova shore
maybe, it seems like every avatar is a little bit shorter as well. Maybe something to do with camera position?
proper reef
wait does this mean that AV3.0s are out now?
nova shore
they've been out for a while
sleek crag
If that's it, sounds like parent/constraint issues.
sleek crag
Because weight painting and constraints can cause those issues.
languid beacon
SDK - Software Development Kit. Very general term - so lots of platforms have one
tulip forge
I think something changed with the default seated height
spice sun
My animations on avatars are still broken
And they appear to be more broken than before even
random badge
animations... i cant even do a fist, point etc
vocal shard
this new update is ass
tawny abyss
yep
winter sierra
Try using other avatars and see if they have the problem too
spice sun
Same problem
winter sierra
Including the official basic avatars?
random badge
ok restart steam/pc helped i dont understand how but right after update any gesture didnt worked
spice sun
The official basic avatars move well but sometimes theyre animations seem to bug out as well
winter sierra
I know that the prone idle is broken when you move forward and suddenly stop moving
It quickly jumps back to the idle animation
spice sun
But all of my avatars laying down and seated animations make the avatar fold and the head literally spins into the body
nova shore
feels like this update wasn't tested at all to be honest, the more i play the more broken stuff i find lol
winter sierra
Well its hard to find results if you test it by yourself so thats why we need to report them bugs
nova shore
yeah but by just loading in on desktop and going to the mirror in the homeworld and I immediately noticed the avatar was broken
was there no testing for desktop or something? 🤔
winter sierra
Try using other avatars and see if it does the same thing
nova shore
every single avatar does it, I tested all 16 in my favorites and every single one has broken legs :C
winter sierra
And restarting your computer might be good idea since it fixed for Contori
nova shore
it's less noticable the taller the avatar but looking and the legs definitely are bent, idk how restarting would help tho? 🤔
winter sierra
A new patch just came out so restarting your computer will clear all the old cache
nova shore
🤔 thought you had to do that in-game?
winter sierra
Yeah but you still have your game in your storage
Contori had problems with gestures after the new patch and when they restarted their computer, it fixed the problem
You can try doing that and maybe it works for you as well.
nova shore
🤔 this time around, it's not just gestures but I'll try it I suppose. Can't hurt.
modest raven
am i the only one having the issue where its stuck on 0.0% but after sometime it loads up? jw
heavy timber
was this update necessary? the actionmenu layout was fine before.
modest raven
anyone else's knees are slightly bent
heavy timber
and the debug panel text is still borked
scenic cosmos
Same for me Roselia
abstract wasp
Rose, if you mean when avatars are loading, then I have.
Is there anyway to disable controller vibrations when doing gesture?
gray edge
my knees are slightly bent when playing on desktop as well
scenic cosmos
All my avatars knees broke 2.0 & 3.0
abstract wasp
Mine are bent in desktop, but not VR.
gray edge
even though Upright parameter is at 1.00, they're somehow slightly bent
modest raven
but i agree with janni was this necessary not trying to be rude ^^"
abstract wasp
For me, I'm thankful because before, I kept trying to use the old button to jump, and it was bound to something else., but now I can rebind it back.
modest raven
well that is good
abstract wasp
Yeah, my only problem is my controllers vibrating when doing gestures, I would like them not to.
stray leaf
Noooooooo! The new update tweaked the angle of the hands for Index and now it no longer matches up! It lined up so well before now it feels incredibly off... 😭
modern harbor
Haha new update go brrrrrrr
willow dome
good patch. now when I crouch when not in full body, it looks like im trying to suck my own c***
delicate gyro
Does anyone want to play vrc? I’m just chilling and watching movies rn
thin ether
Its vrchats logic. If it's not broken, then they will break it.
shut jewel
I'm probably going to play VRC tomorrow night, I suppose I'll see what it's like then
kindred glacier
is it possible to go beyond the 20 GB cache limit?
thin ether
i hit 21 GB sometimes.
kindred glacier
i mean like intentionally going beyond like 100 GB so u dont need to redownload stuff because it overwrites it
thin ether
no never let go pass 20GB around 20 or so game starts to not work that well for me.
nova shore
@winter sierra no restarting my PC did nothing to help at all so ended up being a waste of time
stone current
anyone else having these 2 issues????
- Using Safety Settings actually makes me crash frequently so i need to turn it off bc id rather lag than crash
- Disconnecting from internet temporarily bc of an outage or loss in connection causes my game to crash
final sierra
took an arrow to the knee
quick harbor
Hey I'm looking for someone to make a detailed avatar with props (and if possible animations) I am willing to pay
pseudo basalt
@ me and we'll see
potent gate
When I go prone using space drag from ovr advanced settings, my hands are way offset, my head wobbles while crawling.
vocal shard
😔
glossy ginkgo
whats vrchat
final sierra
any fix update yet?
glossy ginkgo
i am eva x
final sierra
nope
vocal shard
well don't crouch then
problem fixed
cold sage
I have a technical question but I'm not quite sure where I should ask it because it involves development of vrchat
vocal shard
depend on what it is about
cold sage
Basically I was wanting to know with the new console generation around the corner with PlayStation and Xbox, are they powerful enough play vrchat similar to how we play on computer with desktop?
rocky rampart
Can anyone find or make a anime boy with curly hair?
vocal shard
no
quiet orchid
turned off playspace because it was pulling me off the ground and i dont have fullbody, and now im floating, happened when i restarted vrchat and saw the new menu, anyone know whats going on with this?
vocal shard
Seems to be a bug with the update
leaden finch
Like the default idles
quiet orchid
my arms are also majorly messed up since it happened
kind star
Welp, the viewpoint for desktop users is broken
leaden finch
I tried tell em but well.
dapper coral
this update broke tracking
vocal shard
Hello!
high fog
Hi!
vocal shard
How has your day/night been?
high fog
Good how about you :)
north gust
Thanks dev fixes the hands off-angle first
prime ore
so yeah no fix for the fact everyone will either be floating now or have broken arms due to having to have their height way higher than their real life height?
vocal shard
no
prime ore
😢
final sierra
they've done it again! wouldn't you say?
prime ore
time to set my height setting to 6ft 7.. lol
final sierra
they have something against tiny people
wicked mauve
oh good, i was wondering why my viewport is stupidly lower then it should be and my avi is crouched in standing position
final sierra
they probably high-fived each other after the update
wicked mauve
time to check if vr is just as fucked or not
final sierra
oh, hope for it
prime ore
i was in vr when i noticed it, my height setting is normally 5"5 i had to put it to 6"5 to just be on the floor and not be floating. making my arms bend like a t-rex
final sierra
this makes me regret uninstalling league in exchange for vrchat
prime ore
i just hate that when im on tonight/tomorrow (australian friday/saturday) every other conversation is going to be about how to fix it. why vrc sucks etc.. 😐 so zzz
final sierra
Well.. I'll look up what other games I could play while vrchat teams fix the mess they made.
updates so bad it actually made me stay away from it to play another game 🙀
verbal meteor
I haven't been on vrchat in a bit, keep meaning to pop on to look at the changes. :p
final sierra
that's very impressive
wise lily
I havent been in vrchat for a year since my steam account was hacked xd
verbal meteor
Think it was legit like a day or two before avatars 3.0 came around. Been wanting to dig in though.
final sierra
ehhh.... it needs more professionalism
wise lily
So.. Whats happening in the vr world rn?
prime ore
mass annoyance
wise lily
Yes ive seen but anything else?
final sierra
aggravation
verbal meteor
Think it's mostly the usual. Some good rooms some bad rooms but no crazy things from the community. : p
final sierra
imagine getting home from work with a bad day
wise lily
When i first tried vrchat i was lagging real bad
wise lily
F to pay respects for all the people who is lagging in vrchat
verbal meteor
Things i'd hate to do. D: I'm working right now, last thing I'd want is more things to fix on avatars. :p
wise lily
I get work everyday, like bruh how much work i havent done in weeks
Its literally just work spam for me ngl
Alr ima head out
verbal meteor
Take care. 😄
wise lily
You too.
Time to die from all the work im gonna do.
Yea uhm, not gonna do it today, literally 99+ emails.
Ok ima really head out
thick tulip
I can't even play the game atm. Since the update allows you to use the joysticks or pressing the touchpad down to move I can't get my character to stop drifting and this persists in menus.
Anyone know how I can add a bloody deadzone or even just tell vrc to outright not use the joysticks?
the biggest issue is my character is moving forward so even using locomotion movement results in being stuck in the locomotion animation at times.
lucid vessel
does someone know where i can find vrchat characters from life is strange?
vocal shard
hate speech in a world you created
final sierra
glad I am a mute
tough wadi
thats what im confused about
vocal shard
check #moderation-reports is you want to contact them regarding your ban
inland knot
🤡
tough wadi
to my own knowledge i don't have a world with hate speech
still crag
Do you have a world?
tough wadi
yes two
acoustic linden
hope you get the prob solved friend
tough wadi
i hope so too
vocal shard
glad I am a mute
@final sierra are you a mute aswell?
final sierra
yup!
vocal shard
Yes! It always makes me happy when I find another mute person like myself
final sierra
want to become friends in vrchat?
tacit plank
"Crouching and Prone in 3-point tracking should track the head much better"
Does this change the problem of being unable to look upwards while prone, or is that just a restraint which is needed to avoid problems?
near saffron
Anyway to have the action menus like it was previously? where u could close it while still in a radical menu
idle fjord
they butchered pp's kon avatars
broken plover
s k i n s
vocal shard
wait what? u mean my kons? lul
i still cant find this vrchat avatar is like this white cat with talking balls
does anybody have or kno where to get it??
want to become friends in vrchat?
@Ayako#7298 sure! Sorry for the late reply I went offline for a bit
I won’t be on yet though I’ll dm ya
vocal shard
what is a good anime avatar?
jade narwhal
basically any anime avatar is good my g
floral field
uhhh why does the small avatars i have saved crouch when im standing and their knees get eaten when i actually crouch?
mellow palm
huh
fossil zinc
New update broke some avatars
mellow palm
oh the timer has been increased, what a shame
yeah i read the thing that redot said. so was there something wrong that people tried to work around?
and now that this thing is fixed the workarounds cause it to break?
I hope that my fox boyo still works
i love that avatar so much
oh i almost forgot
@hollow sluice gay
zenith widget
Does anyone know where can I find Kratos's avatar from God of war
vocal shard
not allowed either
mellow palm
is there any standardized way to search specific avatars?
vocal shard
it's from a game so obviously a game rip and that's a nono against the rules
mellow palm
I havent heard of one yet
zenith mural
Has anyone got oculus quest if so let's play vr chat
vocal shard
zenith mural
Do u have 1@vocal shard
vocal shard
🤡
zenith mural
@vocal shard 🖕🤗
snow edge
indigo rose
does anyone have a connor avatar that can do 28 stab wounds?
mellow palm
perhaps on deviant art
rare zinc
hey yall 😛
where's the best place to ask about changing your avatar on VRChat? im looking up videos and such...it looks...overly complicated..
mellow palm
what do you mean exactly with "changing your avatar on VRchat?"
its as simple as it can get to change an avatar
or do you mean modify one?
scenic cosmos
go to public world with avatars -> Click Avatar -> save on favorites (?
mellow palm
yep
scarlet fox
Hi gamerrrss
rocky blaze
so this update fixed the weird head banging while crouched and now its doing it with my prone animation
dreamy tree
Sup
mellow palm
the update fixed stuff avatar creators had to work around. now that its fixed the workaround becomes a problem for some avatars
Im just retelling it from people who actually know about the details
rocky blaze
cant have nothing in Detroit
mellow palm
well you can have deviant androids
rocky blaze
haha
scenic cosmos
Well, not 100% fixed, even if you didn't have any weird full-body fix in place, your avatar will appear with slightly bent knees on desktop.
something was fixed and something broke xd
rare zinc
i see XD
rocky blaze
i have a laying down animation to simulate full body and my hands are farther away than they should now
rare zinc
that is, how do i upload a new avatar to VR Chat is the better question 😛
mellow palm
i havent been playing vrchat for a few days
I really hope my main avatar is not broken
cus I aint got the knowledge to fix it
scenic cosmos
It's hard to explain a step-by-step tutorial to upload an avatar on a chat.
You'll have to look for a tutorial.
note that at least you'll need Unity and in some cases Blender.
mellow palm
I only got the avatar not the file
and i never even touched blender or any 3d thing.
rare zinc
oh crap XD
mellow palm
does it onky affect specific ones or is it widespread?
rare zinc
very well 😛 thank you
mellow palm
?
scenic cosmos
As far as I know, it's widespread.
zenith moss
Woof :3
scenic cosmos
So before this update, pressing R would hide the radial menu. Now it just closes it, is there any way to avoid this?
I used it a lot to keep animations ON.
If I want to close the radial menu, I have other ways. Why change the R behaivoir ?
mellow palm
hide the radial menu?
it has always just closed when i repressed r
or is my memory faulty
glass sentinel
heyo guys
scenic cosmos
If you had a puppet active, it'll just hide.
Maybe I'm confused and this only for VR?
glass sentinel
good morning
rocky blaze
mellow palm
huh
rocky blaze
i am looking straight
mellow palm
is it related to body tracking?
rocky blaze
nope, the animation worked fine before this mornings update
mellow palm
so even desktop people are affected?
umbral reef
@rocky blaze did you look down or something when calibrating and stuff?
Also make sure your avatar doesnt have any of the fixed/changed that previously got used to 'fix' avatars and that now breaks it
rocky blaze
i have just hands and headset, the animation was fine yesterday and i have not touched the avatar since uploading
so its vrchat...again
stable folio
Yeah new update busted things
umbral reef
Oh like that, well it can still be one of those botched fixed bricking it
But seeing as a lot of the new update is actually for once busted, big odds its just the update then yea
scenic cosmos
it has always just closed when i repressed r
@mellow palm Just verified on VR, they broke it
stable folio
Epiccccc
mellow palm
oh my
scenic cosmos
R used to hide the radial so you can keep animations on without closing it.
Now IT JUST CLOSES, WHY?!
rocky blaze
hey they fixed the head banging on my avatar when start of movement but now its on the prone side of things
mellow palm
So the animation stops when you press r
scenic cosmos
Who thought this was a good idea? There's other ways already to close the menu
Where can I send feedback about the update?
mellow palm
its constantly try and error when it comes to game updates like that
we will see how things work out in a couple of days
umbral reef
@scenic cosmos best to check the canny if someone already reported it, if its already reported upvote/comment with aditional info if its not there yet and if its not, be the first to report it so they know and can fix it
scenic cosmos
Will check that, thanks
broken plover
Wizuky what exaclty do you mean? I'm on vrchat in desktop mode rn and when I do an emote/expession and close the menu it still plays. Or do I just not understand what you mean?
rocky flax
Not to break the convo but I’m new to vrchat. Got my avatar up and running. Was wondering if anyone knew of any rp groups I could join(I mumble rl and a quiet talker so thinking on being a mute )
mellow palm
a mute rp player
rocky flax
So original right?
mellow palm
perhaps you can try and improve the talking bit by just hanging out in worlds
it helped me. just a lot of talking
stable folio
I wouldn't worry about it, but if you hang around rp esque worlds you could find a group
Usually the rp world's have discord links posted so you can try those.
rocky flax
Will need to do something. People keep saying they can’t hear me well or what’s wrong with my voice.
scenic cosmos
@broken plover before latest update, if you had a puppet menu open, you could just hide the radial menu to leave the animation just where you wanted. Now closes it and cancels the modifications.
I don't want to set a different button to reset Puppets with facial expressions or Hair colours to default when VRChat was already doing it before the udapte.
stable folio
Interesting. Is that only for the radial puppeting menus?
Or is it for all animations?
scenic cosmos
I was only using it for puppets, since animations already have fixed durations
rocky flax
Man it seems this latest update messed with everything. I haven’t really been in vrchat before.
scenic cosmos
Anyway... I can make a workaround for my puppets by removing the exit condition... But just posted my feedback on VRChat site.
umbral reef
Also Wizuky after an update if something breaks its best to just check the canny and upvote/make a post
Thats the only way these things will be solved and fixed within the game.
So great work actually being one of the few doing it ❤️
vocal shard
is there a andy pipkin skin?
pliant flax
Is there a reason why I can’t log on?
glass sentinel
oh ma gah
pliant flax
Is there?
crisp tusk
Random question... If say... Someone had two factor authentication on an account and the tool decided to dump all of their information... How screwed would they be?
As in the authentication app lost the records for generating codes for VRchat logins?
ruby needle
They would totally not be screwed as they have red the very clear and repeated warning to note down the recovery codes which they can now use... right? 👀
crisp tusk
If I had them, it's lost to the depths of my storage drive...
The good news is that I don't exactly have a social life and nothing got lost...
That was well... Important, but I'll have to look for new interesting places to explore.
I should make a back up of the codes for the new account though...
cinder moon
broken plover
cinder fiber
acoustic atlas
Hello my friends, how are you?
languid beacon
@broken plover before latest update, if you had a puppet menu open, you could just hide the radial menu to leave the animation just where you wanted. Now closes it and cancels the modifications.
I don't want to set a different button to reset Puppets with facial expressions or Hair colours to default when VRChat was already doing it before the udapte.
@scenic cosmos it only cancels it if you set up your state machine to cancel it when you exit the menu. If you don’t do that (don’t use a menu parameter) it won’t revert
stable folio
Obviously not if he's saying it's doing that.
broken plover
I tried out the avatars at the 3.0 hub and they worked completely fine. I could do all animations without them resetting when I closed the menu
scenic cosmos
Either way, it wasn't doing that before which was more handy.
And I mentioned that I was going to work it around after that
languid beacon
You must have set up a menu parameter to reset it
scenic cosmos
If you have a puppet open
Before -> Radial menu hides immdeately.
Now -> Closes puppet -> Closes radial.
languid beacon
I see. Yeah that means you can’t temporarily hide without resetting
scenic cosmos
Yup :c
languid beacon
Maybe when they add binding there will be a hide menu bind who knows
sturdy harbor
Radial and 2 Axis Puppet menus still save the last known values upon closing
Only one that changes is your open/closed value
half sinew
my avatar movement bruh after the weird updates
sturdy harbor
Oh I know, awful
vocal shard
dont like the update it makes me mad
sturdy harbor
@scenic cosmos, I saw that you gotten the leg situation simi-fixed
scenic cosmos
Yup, not bending together, but still that slight "sitting" position.
And the thing is it's only happening on Desktop, no issues so far on VR
sturdy harbor
I had no issues on VR to begin with, kinda funny there was no warning of rig-hacks breaking
In this update at least
inner blade
I mean, they gave warnings last year regarding rig hacks breaking in the future. And Tupper gave another warning for the AV3 update...
It doesn't matter if they give a warning for a given update. They've given warnings regarding future updates to give people time to stop using rig hacks.
scenic cosmos
Funny thing, I don't have any "Rig Hacks" and still knees are slightly bent.
inner blade
-shrug- Then there's still an issue with your rig.
scenic cosmos
No issues with my rig, because it works when I use only VR or FBT
sturdy harbor
Only issue is Desktop
scenic cosmos
It just on desktop where default IK hits
inner blade
How often are you not in VR though?
Personally I don't worry about something if it doesn't affect me. lol
scenic cosmos
When testing avatars, which is a lot.
And still that shouldn't be a valid question
sturdy harbor
Often for animation testing and status testing
Imagine, "Link Start" every time you want to test a change lol. (Sorry for the awful reference)
inner blade
It is a valid question, though. IK is different for VR vs non-VR.
And I don't get the reference, sorry. Is it SAO? lol
sturdy harbor
Sure, but I still need it for testing. Plus I want some of my AV3 stuff to work for both Desktop and VR
scenic cosmos
Why? So if ppl spend more time in VR they shouldn't worry about fixing desktop?
sturdy harbor
Sure, it is "VR"Chat, but a lot of the community relies on Desktop. Maybe 40%?
scenic cosmos
I would say there's more desktop users...
sturdy harbor
I was saying just an estimated lowball guess
scenic cosmos
I know a lot of ppl that start as desktop and ends up buying a VR Headset just for VRChat
vocal shard
i started as a desktop player
inner blade
I would say it doesn't matter either way. None of this is even relevant to the original point. You said there was no warning about rig hacks breaking for this update, I corrected that they've been giving warnings about the future since last year. So yeah.
If you're not using any rig hacks, then why bother mentioning it? 😛
sturdy harbor
I mean, just say "Oh and btw, if you are using rig hacks, they will break this update"
Instead of pushing an update silently
scarlet fox
hii! anyone down to try the new horror map with me? 🙂 dm me if u areee!
inner blade
But they've been warning about it for a year. They've been giving warnings. There's been plenty of time to stop using rig hacks. It's the user's own fault if they ignore that and their avatars break because of the rig hacks.
scenic cosmos
Not sure what's your point since it was first stated that there wasn't any rig hacks
inner blade
Not sure why you bothered complaining about rig hacks breaking if you're not using them.
sturdy harbor
The thing is, they tried to say any of the slouching was based around rig hacks, when it isn't
inner blade
Do you know that for certain, though? How do you know your rig is 110% perfect?
scenic cosmos
I'm complaining that things are breaking when there's no rig hacks (edit, at least I'm lol)
sturdy harbor
Because a wide spectrum of the community is suffering from it?
And I can look at my model in Blender
I'm not blind?
Anything else I am missing?
scenic cosmos
Even Legacy & usual Public avatars have the "Slight bent knees" issue.
sturdy harbor
Yep
inner blade
-shrug- In-development games have problems. There will always be problems. All you can do is wait for a fix. Or make your own game with blackjack and hookers. 😉
sturdy harbor
See, the issue is being blamed for the bug, in a way?
Saying it is your models fault, not the update
inner blade
Nah, the issue is assuming it's not your fault at all, when it could easily be both
sturdy harbor
But I can prove that it isnt me.
frosty veldt
In most cases it is both, but if the official public models are doing it then its a larger problem
inner blade
Perhaps
Either way, it can be both. I never assume anything is perfect about my own rigs. Nobody should assume their rig is perfect, imo.
scenic cosmos
LoL
sturdy harbor
My upper leg bones are straight pointed away from the hips, I have my lower leg (knee) arched.
scenic cosmos
I can assume it, if it was working yesterday and after the update it looks weird.
sturdy harbor
Everything is compliant
scenic cosmos
I can assume it, when development team suggest some fixes on blender and even with that the issue is still there
last mist
guys vrchat wont load and im saddd
inner blade
Alternatively, it looks weird after the update because there was a small problem which is now showing due to some other change.
sturdy harbor
This is what we are getting at
final thunder
or the factthat the last update they had to patch within hours
frosty veldt
Just something they changed with the bend points, they'll probably fix it or give out a statement on what they need the rig to look like now
last mist
;-; i am being ignored lol
final thunder
you just dont know what youre talking about artificial
inner blade
Maybe I do, maybe I don't. lol
sturdy harbor
Just make sure your cache isn't too large, and no drivers are contradicting the game @last mist
final thunder
the fact that it is happening to all my avatars not just the ones with full body fix is a sign that somethings wrong
last mist
yeah when i click on it, the app wont load
sturdy harbor
Are you Quest or PC?
last mist
PC
final thunder
disregard anything said by someone with leet in their name
sturdy harbor
Go to %userprofile%/AppData/LocalLow/VRChat/VRChat and delete the folder
Try to relaunch
ruby needle
%AppData%\..\LocalLow\VRChat\VRChat
inner blade
Have a disagreement with someone online, and resort to effectively saying what they say is worthless because there are a few numbers in their name.
sturdy harbor
Sorry if my link is off, I am on mobile
last mist
sorry if this sounds dumb but where do i put that info in
final thunder
its the fact you said "i dont care if it doesnt affect me"
ruby needle
it's always \ not / on windows folders 
inner blade
That has nothing to do with the numbers in my name though 😛
final thunder
alright kid.
inner blade
You're just applying some sort of prejudice you have where it has no place. You can disagree with me without being an outright prick about it, you know.
sturdy harbor
I am on mobile, and / & \ work in Windows Explorer
They are corrected automatically
inner blade
This is what's wrong with the world lol Particularly in the US. But whatever. I'll go away now. Give you what you want. You'll feel better. 😛
sturdy harbor
plus I am a bash hippie
final thunder
yeah its the us's fault youre ignorant....
last mist
i think its open
sturdy harbor
Good deal
last mist
uuuh wut happened ;-0
vocal shard
Someone please teach me how to use Soundpad, it doesn't work :c
sturdy harbor
Everything will need to refresh into cache, be patient
last mist
I am justt gonna spam click until it opens
sturdy harbor
Are you using Oculus or Steam to launch?
last mist
Steam
sturdy harbor
Hold shift while pressing play and continue to hold it until a submenu pops up
If it doesn't appear, you may juat want to reinstall
last mist
I joined on April but havent play since May, i plaed for like 20 minutes today lol
i think its working, idk, but can yall like give me advice lol
for beginners
scenic cosmos
The safety menu is your best friend
sturdy harbor
If your game takes time to load, try closing other applications.
If you still suffer from slowness it may be a hardware issue, check to make sure your PC is strong enough to play
Also it could be that Windows is blocking the executable. Try going to your directory on where it is stored and launching it from there
last mist
thqank u guys, i have a lenovo which i think is ok but isnt really a gaming laptop i might get one for my 15th b-day
fair widget
I've only played vrchat on desktop once before, I didn't do much. I just logged in with VR for the first time and I had an avatar other than the default, with a bunch of music and stuff playing, couldn't get to the menu or anything. Is it possible that I've been hacked?
I'm a bit worried now :S I don't remember ever setting an avatar or anything
I'm using steam
last mist
you clcik "esc" to get on menu
gray citrus
last mist
nothing much just playing...u?
half sinew
good job for VRChat update 3.0
last mist
haha 🙂 whats thst supposed to mean
half sinew
good job for making the 3.0 become the worst update ever
half sinew
but seriously I've never seen the update are become even worse at 3.0
vast bolt
I'm assuming one of those reasons is because it crashes upon trying to join a world?
broken plover
the update that made vrchat quest compatible is also one of the worst update. But most issues that came from that update are fixed by now
just one word: NetworkIK
vast bolt
I literally can't join any other world without the game crashing.
is there a fix to this or do I just have to wait for there to be an update that fixes this?
broken plover
clear cache and all of that stuff. If nothing works write an email to vrchat support
half sinew
I'm really triggered with my avatar movement rn, especially my small avatars
broken plover
if its an issue on your end they'll help you fix it. If its an issue on their end they'll fix it
vast bolt
so I'm pretty stupid, and I don't know how to clear my cache.
last mist
Yeah it doesnt even let me go on a wrold without havingmy xomc0uter fan go on
vast bolt
I cleared my cache and nothing even changed.
I'm hoping uninstalling and reinstalling it will work.
ruby burrow
@vast bolt Are you able to load and do stuff in your homeworld without crashing?
vast bolt
yeah, it just crashes upon trying to join other worlds.
last mist
bro yeah ijust tried to join something and it crashed my laptop i-
vast bolt
my computer doesn't crash, it's just the game that crashes for me
vocal shard
isnt it weird how VR chat is well known and popular, but a lot of popular worlds are just empty?
ruby burrow
@last mist
Just a side comment Athenaax, if you're hoping for a new computer sometime, keep in mind that not all laptops work for VR, just in case that was something you'd be hoping to get too. Some are outright unable to use it regardless of performance.
Also, whilst it's not always an option for someone you age (would need a suitable desk in your room), a desktop PC will get you close to twice the power for the same price, compared to a laptop. If portability or lack of space at home aren't your primary concerns, a desktop PC usually makes more sense, if possible.
hollow sluice
@vocal shard most of the regular players are in private worlds because of stupid people
uncut jackal
Wish there was a 3d person perspective option. Would be kinda neat to be able to see what other people see
broken plover
some worlds have that. Mostly avatar worlds
frigid fox
So this new update has completely messed up my tracking
vocal shard
I have a question,will using the 3.0 sdk fix the neck of my avatar?
pearl pebble
Will be vrchat on GeForce now? I want to play it but I don't have a pc
quaint raptor
guys im playing vrchat and noone can hear me
coarse thorn
I'm having issues too, it's super annoying
vocal shard
My character is standing with its legs down a bit
coarse thorn
I keep getting timed out of worlds all the time maaannnn
vocal shard
I vote we bring back 2.0
coarse thorn
Fr!!! "Your connection to vrchat has timed out"... This has lit only just started happening today, and it's frustrating af honestly
vocal shard
2.0 works with all the avatars
coarse thorn
I take it you have an issue with one of your avatars not loading or something??
vocal shard
Im a fbt user and the neck is SO LONG
Like a foot over what it used to be. Its scary
ruby needle
You have configured your rig in a non standart way
vocal shard
They could make 3.0 an option while having the neck breaking shit reversed,i spent hundreds of hours on avatars for them not to work
ruby needle
reverse a bug they fixed? 
vocal shard
Well everyone does it. That's the thing
Give me one creator that doesn't do it. Seriously
coarse thorn
@ruby needle Any tips on timing out of worlds?
ruby needle
But that's not the case, quite a few do, but that doesn't mean they should now let the bug exist and have people who actually build to specs have the bad experience
It's been said for a while to not use rig hacks, by doing so you misconfigure your rig on purpose
this is expected to break when the original bug gets fixed
final thunder
no rig fix and my avatars still just crouch
ruby needle
That's unrelated.
vocal shard
Thats why I said make it an option. Its annoying and idk why you can't realize that. Avatars cost money. Money doesn't grow on trees
ruby needle
If you payed for the avatar, and you didnt request the avatar to be setup outside of specifications then you should ask your commissioner to fix it.
A commissioner should ALWAYS build a model to the target's specifications
vocal shard
Also you cant respect my opinion which I find hilarious
For some reason the avatars are squatting a bit
Yup^^
ruby needle
That's a little issue with the patch today @vocal shard 
vocal shard
Avatar creators don't have the time,they don't care. They don't lose sleep at night over it. Granted some creators are lovely people
mellow palm
I vote we bring back 2.0
@vocal shard
you cant be serious
why does nobody understand that this game is still like in beta??
vocal shard
I am,the fbt set up fucks everything up. The menus are annoying. The jump is living hell
mellow palm
so youd want to just backpeddle multible updates
vocal shard
Its an opinion. Idk why you can't understand that
mellow palm
thats lidicrous
vocal shard
Might be,i have people who agree with me. Are you a fbt user
mellow palm
well i have an oppinion on your oppinion
ruby needle
The menu and jump should be a non issue anymore, can be changed back to default 2.0 in settings now.
mellow palm
Might be,i have people who agree with me. Are you a fbt user
no Iam not a member of the "Fringe Benefits Tax"
vocal shard
Because if not you don't fully understand. It makes it harder to calibrate which makes it harder to play the game. I am aware of the launch option. It makes play space harder (ovr advanced settings) its just annoying since im not used to it. Also fbt is full body tracking
vocal shard
I've been playing for roughly 3 years,this shit is super new.
final thunder
like what?
vocal shard
Ik but I have to spend hours trying to fix my models since the original creators won't. And nothing i noticed
final thunder
what did this update actually fix? i only notice bad things
vocal shard
Same
mellow palm
Its the problem where there was a mistake in the tracking od avatars correct? and creators purposefully "corrected" it. now that the mistake is fixed the correction becomes the problem
vocal shard
My vrchat has just gotten very laggy
The neck looks like something out of the exorcist
mellow palm
it was a fix that had to eventually come from what ive heard
ruby needle
And it was clear from the beginning that this rig hack will break at that point
coarse thorn
How much does the fbt gear cost roughly???
mellow palm
now that the mistake has gotten rid of people can make it better from the ground up
ruby needle
A risk that you need to be 100% consent whith when you do misconfigure your rig like this.
umbral reef
They warned everyone kinda like half a year ago to be fair
final thunder
this 3.0 update has been a disaster
ruby needle
Not really.
umbral reef
And if we are really fair, over a year ago by now even they did another warning...
rough pulsar
Longer. There's been repeated warnings that rig hacks would break and now they have people are somehow surprised.
ruby needle
Some thing's needed and still need a bit more polish, but overall it wasn't that bad
final thunder
what do you like about this update paul?
umbral reef
@rough pulsar For a long time they just said they where not supported
Around a yearish and bit longer they have actively said and made clear it would break in time.
ruby needle
3.0 gives a ton new possbilities.
Mute button finally.
vocal shard
The last update today definitely had some bugs.
But overall the 3.0 update has been really good. Just needs polish
mellow palm
I just hope that the model im using didnt get affected by it. even though in a desktop player atm
rough pulsar
@umbral reef Maybe to me unsupported implicitly means will eventually break
ruby needle
The new calibration is also great for FBT users who actually can adapt to it.
final thunder
name some stuff you like
vocal shard
But you need to use a 3.0 avatar to notice the difference
2.0 avatars don't have much new from this update
rough pulsar
The new calibration method is a problem, the resulting calibration is in general better.
ruby needle
AFK animations are also going to be really cool once broadly adapted
umbral reef
@umbral reef Maybe to me unsupported implicitly means will eventually break
@rough pulsar Oh your totally fair and right on that though-- But considering the average braincell count of VRC users when it comes to these topics its not odd to assume people dont realize that.
final thunder
so what you are saying is that it CAN be cool but right now isnt?
umbral reef
No it already is cool just not widely used and addapted as its too new for users
vocal shard
It is if you use the new avatars
fossil root
I always saved my models in blender before rig hacks and applied them before exporting, but I'm not the average VRChat user
rough pulsar
I never needed the rig hacks so ¯_(ツ)_/¯
final thunder
the only 3.0 thing i have seen is someone put a dick on their avatar that can grow.....
ruby needle
Right now it's not broadly adapted, but it doesnt automatically mean it is bad.
vocal shard
Also the update sets the baseline for a lot of future stuff. Like an in house developed avatar physics collision system
ruby needle
@final thunder Nothing you couldn't have done with an animation before
umbral reef
@fossil root Thats like 20 steps too forward thinking! Thats illegal!
You cant ever have a backup, it needs atleast one bone flipped or not weight painted and gotta complain when it breaks because of something you did
final thunder
im just not seeing the 3.0 stuff or nobody is using it so far. all these avatars can break so that .5% of the player base can have "cool animations"
vocal shard
It just came out 
final thunder
that is true
rough pulsar
The potential complexity of the 3.0 system will take a while to properly show.
umbral reef
Most people dont even realize yet what 3.0 can even do
Damn, the beta users are only now after ages of the beta properly seeing how far it can be pushed
rough pulsar
One example is avatar-based voice activated animations
final thunder
i would like to know how many players actually make avatars. like precentage based
rough pulsar
I believe someone made one that does something when you say "ok boomer"
vocal shard
People are still learning.
But I've seen things like fully controllable RC planes, inventory systems. Clothes inventorys. Full control of different body parts like tails, ect.
We just started
i agree with you @final thunder. almost everyone hates it. and not a whole lot of people
umbral reef
Full avatar menu's with options for tools
Puppeting avatars.
mellow palm
the only 3.0 thing i have seen is someone put a dick on their avatar that can grow.....
hah
umbral reef
Literally anything complex you can think of with animations has been made a billion times easier
mellow palm
then you havent seen anything really
final thunder
lol it is pretty funny fox.
oh they could flex their asshole too. forgot about that.
vocal shard
haha!
umbral reef
And no need for having 20 versions of the same avatar anymore
whats the biggest pog of it all
spiral meadow
Oi
mellow palm
from how i understand it its a life modification of a players model. (not something an animation can do i believe) and it has a lot of potential
vagrant epoch
Hey so I'm really new to VR chat. Any tips as to what u should be doing? How doni meet new people?
vocal shard
Here's the thing, yeah there was a rocky start... But the intention is to have sdk2 still running, without a problem. And sdk3 as well. So the goal is that people who don't want to learn the new system can keep doing what they want and feel no effect of the new stuff... But refining is needed
final thunder
if they fix the damn crouch thing then ill be happy
vocal shard
the necks are easier to snap now that they are longer
final thunder
they just had to fix the animations too
spiral meadow
Vrchat jogar
vocal shard
People always so aggressive after an update doesn't go perfectly 
mellow palm
Hey so I'm really new to VR chat. Any tips as to what u should be doing? How doni meet new people?
@vagrant epoch
select an avatar you like or copy one from a person you like.
join a world with "worlds" and then just talk
vocal shard
XD
umbral reef
@vocal shard my free game isnt perfect >:C
vocal shard
id pay
final thunder
free?!?!?
coarse thorn
Hey so I'm really new to VR chat. Any tips as to what u should be doing? How doni meet new people?
@vagrant epoch Just join 'hot' worlds, and engage in conversation with people! I mean, that's what i do
vocal shard
XD. make it 20-50$ and id pay
final thunder
THATS IT! im going to lavander
spiral meadow
:C
vocal shard
Yes, the game is free. VR is not counted as part of the cost of vrchat, since it's a peripheral that is used on many games. Like a racing wheel
final thunder
vr? dude im full desktop 2,179 hours
umbral reef
inb4 someone makes a comment how they got money from Seed series and stuff what makes it invalid that its a free game
vocal shard
then idk how it's not "free"
final thunder
it cost me my soul
vocal shard
ok?.....
mellow palm
vr? dude im full desktop 2,179 hours
@final thunder
what the fucking hell
umbral reef
We both know you would have sold it for some ice cream 👀
vocal shard
i have 4'000
heady salmon
woah
umbral reef
recently for 2K over two accounts :x
vocal shard
3 years man
mellow palm
ive been playing for less than 50 hours and my desire to buy a vr headset is already huge
final thunder
i have dreams where i have vr and i wake up and its not real.
umbral reef
Tmw you explored more worlds all alone in VRC then you been vibing with other people
heady salmon
am poor, no money, and trying to make stuff first.
final thunder
never been crashed in my dreams
umbral reef
The update is making me really tempted to get onto my main, get a clean slate and just get some avatar stuff going again
mellow palm
i have dreams where i have vr and i wake up and its not real.
@final thunder
no but really how can you still not have a vr headset after literally playing for thousands of hours
final thunder
because i have a phenom 2 x4 thats why
mellow palm
??
final thunder
12 year old processor. its before your time
mellow palm
so youve been lacking the finances to upgrade for years now?
final thunder
im getting a ryzen 5 in like 2 weeks tho. not that i lack the funds, im just a boomer with bills to pay and a bad smoking addiction
mellow palm
hmm
vocal shard
i hate fbt XD
mellow palm
replace smoking addiction with vr addiction. more time consuming but less deadly
umbral reef
Depending the machine they get its cheaper to smoke then the upcomming powerbill :x
final thunder
yeah and plus i get to look like a dragon >:)
umbral reef
Dragon pog
final thunder
strawberry. my friend hated it so much that he returned his trackers and went back to using kinect
gleaming summit
so does vrchat have skin moderation(so people cant just make naked skins)?
umbral reef
They do not have an AI more advanced then any other company in the world.
final thunder
@gleaming summit yes they do. you will get banned for making racist or sexual avatars
umbral reef
So no, they dont.
But you can report users and those users will be banned from the game.
gleaming summit
@umbral reef i meant like someone looking at them
final thunder
yeah that^
oh i see what you mean. you can upload anything but if people find out and report you then its rip
gleaming summit
ok just wanted to make sure
final thunder
yeah nobody is like sitting at a desk going through all the avatars
umbral reef
They get tens of thousands of uploaded avatars a day if they are unlucky
So really imposible to check them manually
gleaming summit
yeah that makes sense
final thunder
could you imagine having that job tho? and having to hide your massive erection all day?
umbral reef
Most of your time your just checking cuffed moddels
gleaming summit
it sounds like a terrible job im ngl
umbral reef
And the same avatar a 100 times in a row because someone is tweaking it and cant get it right
gleaming summit
haha
mellow palm
If your model is affected by the update the only way to fix it is to change something in the model itself right?
like youd need someone who knows how to make models to fix it
karmic pollen
Just wondering, does vrchat work for oculus quest?
vocal shard
Am i the only one with the problem that all avatars are crouching a little even if they are just standing normally
karmic pollen
Nvm im stupid
subtle yew
Is there a link of the website where i can Report a Modder?
ruby needle
subtle yew
He's spamming dropping portals at me tbf
ruby needle
dont forget to include conclusive proof
mellow palm
huh
i recognice that pfp faaskee, our avatars were based on the same base. literally
vocal shard
hey uhh there was script that allowed people to uhh teleport through walls :/
mellow palm
at least I think so
subtle yew
Yeah there's this guy Who drops portal at me Fox
vocal shard
was on murder2 then some kid goes through the floor picks up the gun and POw im ded
mellow palm
Yeah there's this guy Who drops portal at me Fox
@subtle yew
could ya rephrase that i dont get what you mean
subtle yew
It's just that there's this guy he has a Mod Client and drops portal at me
VRChat could easily update like: Are you Sure to go through this portal? It would kill that Portal Droppers instantly
mellow palm
ah okay
well i got mine from the friend who made me install the game itself in the first place
he do be an mvp
worldly terrace
how do you get the clown with rainbow hair?
like the one where its eyes pop out when you do the finger guns
idle violet
VRChat down?
subtle yew
Yeah well ill look tomorrow if it keeps going. Then i can't be asked that i can't play it anymore
languid beacon
Just wondering, does vrchat work for oculus quest?
@karmic pollen yes. There is a stand alone client that doesn’t need a Pc but it’s pretty limited. Ideally you’d want to connect the quest to a Pc with its charge cable and just play the Pc version
finite steppe
I thought you needed a special cable for that and not just the charging cable?
languid beacon
You don’t
finite steppe
Hmmm, i might have to look into the Quest then.
languid beacon
I’ve used both the included charge cable and the expensive 80 dollar official cable. No difference in quality
sterile cloud
Hey is anyone having problems loading into world's because everytime I try to join a world it kicks me off vrchat
finite steppe
Quest can do FBT when it's connected to a PC right?
languid beacon
If you have a means of FBT
worldly terrace
i got a quest a couple days ago and the charging cable works great for link. i just plug the cable into the usb c port on my pc
languid beacon
It’s in the same boat as Rift S when connected to a Pc . Games just think it’s a rift s
finite steppe
i just plug the cable into the usb c port on my pc
My PC doesn't have a USB C port... So deal-breaker.
worldly terrace
i mean
sturdy harbor
But with 72Hz instead of 80/90
worldly terrace
you can use a usb c adapter i guess
languid beacon
You can get USB 3.0 USBC to USBA, they are non-standard, and won’t keep the quest charged, but they work. Downside is your battery will go dead
karmic pollen
Im getting a quest because I dont have a pc so its not like ill freak out about the graphics or frame rate
finite steppe
What would be the cheapest (and not garbage in terms of tracking) way to get into VR?
sturdy harbor
Be careful and try to get a certified C to A cable
worldly terrace
oculus quest is good
sturdy harbor
If their stuff sends too slow, expect frame chopping
finite steppe
I haven't been eyeballing prices much, so I'm not aware of what the best price/performance for my budget is.
sturdy harbor
Rift S for frame perfect titles, Quest for everything else
languid beacon
I don’t recommend USB-C to USB-A cables at all. By their very nature they are against specification, so whoever makes them probsbly isn’t too concerned with bandwidth or meeting quality standards...
sturdy harbor
Valve for the best of Plug n' Play, but $$$
karmic pollen
Is superhot good for quest?
worldly terrace
pretty good, i tried the demo and it's really fun
sturdy harbor
Superhot is reaaaaallllly close to PC
finite steppe
I doubt my PC would even be able to get 60fps most of the time running VRChat in VR (without tanking the resolution). I get 90fps in most worlds by myself in desktop mode at 1080p, but that quickly starts dropping when more than 5 people show up. By the time there are 10 people in a confined area I'm down to 60-70fps.
languid beacon
one thing sketchy USB-C to USB-A are notorious for is having only one sided power and if the USB-C side is flipped the wrong way you might break something
worldly terrace
yeah because superhot graphics are pretty simple
languid beacon
Joe Swanson machine broke. We got Brock Sampson tho.
echo dagger
damn wym broke tho
languid beacon
I don’t have it lol
echo dagger
oh gotchu
languid beacon
Same voice actor so if you can do one voice you can do the other :D
Pretty sure you could find him in a avatar world though
coarse pewter
Hi
high fog
hello
coarse pewter
Anyone wanna play ?
round flame
Who plays on vr?
meager plaza
whats up with these movie/anime worlds, theres something shady going on, or is it legal?
im pretty sure it wouldnt be legal
deft girder
You would be right
meager plaza
but nothing has been said about it, its weird
deft girder
The movies are hosted on external servers not on vrchat's server if the rights holders decide to take action it would be directed towards the people hosting them and not vrchat
meager plaza
i just dont feel right about this all
hence why im not even gonna dip my toe into it
deft girder
Understandable
The people who upload those worlds are responsible after ticking that checkbox saying that they own all the rights
karmic pollen
I sure wish schools used school issued vr for vrchat
meager plaza
that'd be too cool
wooden atlas
Anyone else have a bhaptics vest or any other of their products?
Bc every haptics prefab that makes haptics work for vrc now instantly crashes the game in the new patch
vocal shard
I wanna hop on vrchat
But it’s midnight ;_;
You know what I’mma just hop on anyways
jolly trout
Pog
raw pine
Have fun @vocal shard It's midnight here as well
meager plaza
same here
nocturne mauve
Heyo! Just got the game and trying to figure it all out!
vocal shard
Any of u can make vr chat avater?
I want a dimple one just a plain inage of someone..m i can pay
round flame
Anybody play vrchat on vr?
modern harbor
I'd be suprised if everyone didn't.
round flame
I asked in the other chat and apparently they didn’t
high fog
uh most people play in VR
ruby needle
@round flame I would recommend you a look int #rules before asking the next question in multilpe channels.
shut jewel
I don't know how bad the avatar thing is, is VRChat still usable? I was planning on meeting a friend in it tonight but now I'm worried it's all broken and everyone is just going to be complaining. Are they exaggerating? What percentage of avatars are actually broken?
vocal shard
using blender and unity for first time😬😬😬
broken plover
It really depends. Mostly avatars that had rig hacks that improved full body tracking back in 2018 are now broken. But avatars that don't have that are fine
arctic moss
hi
vocal shard
can somebody help me cuz i cant use my mic in vrchat
karmic pollen
Man I could be in a vr headset right now but no, I have to wait 1 and a half months for my birthday and now that I really want one every second of my conscious life is agony and sadness as I wait for what seems like centuries for something that ive always wanted
hot mesa
is there a bug w the animations when crouched?
the feet move too fast for how fast you actually move
dense summit
Sup
round flame
Hi
dense summit
I couldn’t verify myself to play because the email wouldn’t send so decided to join this server
hollow breach
So uh is it just me or is everything in vrc loading really slowly?
Prob be me but just wanted to ask
dense summit
Hru today b r o t h e r
round flame
Also you could try a different email? Or does it allow to use phone #?
stone plume
anyone else being disconnected as in timed out
dense summit
I cant even play
tacit quiver
i have no issues 😮
hollow breach
@tacit quiver thank you, so its a problem on my end
tacit quiver
of course! but yea not sure if its location wise or mostly just ur pc and or internet
hollow breach
idk either, just restarted my PC. if that doesnt work gonna try some other stuff like clearing my cache and what not
tacit quiver
hopefully it works!! gotta get the weekend started off right haha
solar bloom
I'm having issues @hollow breach same as you
anyone else being disconnected as in timed out
@stone plume yes and when I go back in to play it loads hella slow even tho the world is cached, even my home world is loading like it's a new world I've never been to
small spire
hi guys
merry meteor
Ever wanted to learn how to make a VRC Avatar or World, but never knew where to start? I wrote a comprehensive guide on how to do it, assuming no prior knowledge on 3D computer graphics!
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2190684978
(Unsure what Discord channel to post this in because it covers so many topics)
tacit quiver
Its Friyay boys and girls time to clubbing and raving since i cant do that in the real world 😄
vocal shard
and im too young to go to a club! so instead ill drink mountain dew with my friends!
vrchats actually really handy now that quarantine exists cause its the closest to social interaction and its fun! even as an introvert i really enjoy chatting with my online friends!
vrchats great!
silent plover
sup
crimson laurel
oh man. my charity stream for st. Jude raised over $50. afterparty in VRC
vocal shard
gg
granite cipher
Pretty upset Ripper.Store has my private model on their site. Anyone know of a way to take it down?
stark solar
Vrchat anyone? Need friends 🥺
hot mesa
oh god walking forward in vr looks so weird wtf lol
violet creek
my wife has problems since the last update with her windows mixed reality bindings in vrc. does anybody have the same issues or fixes, pls ping me
vocal shard
PATCH!
glacial zealot
The patches are cool and all but you know what would be cooler? A rollback :)
covert chasm
yes, patch is the correct term, thank you 😛
vocal shard
@covert chasm I had to edit my message XD
covert chasm
you did well young padawan
glacial zealot
I want my one press gesture toggle back
vocal shard
yall not fixing shit with these updates... short avatars bugged.. video players broken... clients still work like yall mad useless stop touching shit bro..
glacial zealot
^
covert chasm
short avatars fixed in this patch 🙂
vocal shard
CAP
covert chasm
If video players are broken, let us know-- I just saw one playing successfully in Live
vocal shard
my knees bent for no reason.. moved my view point to chest
buoyant quarry
:^
vocal shard
yo why the heck is my avatar frozen in like a sitting position
like i update vrchat and
im just stuck in a sitting position
the movie players broke like shit idk what u saying tup tup]
covert chasm
@vocal shard Can you try changing avatars?
vocal shard
everything works but moving
g shit u can join and look at this shit its just looping one scene
covert chasm
Are you in Desktop mode, 3-point tracking, or full body tracking?
modern harbor
Smh poor devs can't catch a break.
covert chasm
@vocal shard So.. 3 point tracking?
vocal shard
yea i was confused on what that was for a sec
covert chasm
@vocal shard If the same spot is looping over and over, that means whoever is the master of the world is not loading or playing the video.
buoyant quarry
yeah video players for me dont work i put a url from yt and it no work it doesnt even start the video when i go to hit enter
vocal shard
na i clicked it broski.. its skipping and junk
tupper what ever yall did to the servers revert my boy
ok i just restarted vrchat
covert chasm
Did that help? @vocal shard
vocal shard
ok its fixed now thank god--#
covert chasm
nice! thanks for troubleshooting for me 🙂
@vocal shard I just tested for you. Looks pretty good! 🙃
vocal shard
try roots movie world
tiny sigil
quality post tupper
covert chasm
i try
@vocal shard Just tried it, works fine.
Skipping and looping is almost always because the person who has been in there the longest (the "master", basically the person who is handling networking for the instance) is not properly sending data for that video to sync.
vocal shard
Then what u think the issue is bro we keep joining new lobbies
covert chasm
I would suggest going to another instance, have someone else go into the portal first and wait about 10 seconds before anyone else goes through.
vocal shard
ight imma try
covert chasm
If you go through the portal first (and tell others to wait for the countdown to hit 20 before they go through after you), your viewpoint should be fine. Of course, that assumes that your connection is good and you're able to send the sync signal to others 🙂
vocal shard
bet
this guy named budget sypherr just came in and closed my game F
imma restart and lyk if it works
still buffering F
covert chasm
That might just be your connection to wherever that video is hosted, also
those videos aren't on VRChat's servers, so you may (or may not) have different issues connecting to those servers
vocal shard
Damn.. but tupper.. uh consider adding join limit per second so photon exploits dim down.. people rn are able to completely disable world colliders, disconnect people, and close their games.. u probably wont listen but bro consider it this game is actually becoming aids w all these exploits
covert chasm
We do listen, trust me. We hear you 🙂
fleet junco
p
vocal shard
thanks not tryna have kids hyped off gfuel spamming bots 24/7..
covert chasm
is gfuel even any good
rigid crescent
gamer supps bro
pale timber
hi mic
vocal shard
i havent had it.. i just to pretend i was drinking g fuel when i was younger with koolaid XD
covert chasm
i just drink monster zero and take vitamin d supplements because i (literally) don't go outside
working from home is a blessing and a curse
pale timber
sad
vocal shard
i just drink water.. try drinking water for a week straight trust its fire
covert chasm
you're not wrong, when i got a nalgene and started just keeping it full all day i felt so much better
next step is a camelbak 24/7
pale timber
amazing brand
covert chasm
its a pack you put on your back that holds water, very useful for backpacking or if you're boots-on-the-ground in the military
gleaming vine
Hi im new do you know how to change to classic movement on the oculus vr headset for vrchat
vocal shard
ohh i think ive seen one of those before
covert chasm
@gleaming vine Turn off "Holoport (3P Movement)" in your settings menu 🙂
gleaming vine
Thanks
covert chasm
sure thing!
vocal shard
did u guys mess with the way desktop movement operates ? feels and looks different
covert chasm
a tiny bit, but mostly tweaks in how standing pose works and fixing the knock knees
vocal shard
ye my knees slightly bent n stuff kinda hard to look uwu
livid shoal
Didnt tried yet new control on oculus touch
Last time i tried it was uncomfortable to switch jump from joystick to button after 3 years using normal one
glad hazel
anyone have a link to the correct unity version?
pseudo basalt
pale timber
omg hi pumkin
covert chasm
hi pumkin thanks for the update 
glad hazel
how do i access that page? i cant find a place to download unity
glad hazel
oh strange. it didnt bring that page up for me
chrome pollen
Ive got an old oculus rift and my vrchat keeps crashing i know my pc can handle it could it be my rig is out of date?
vast tulip
@chrome pollen if you think a crash might be related to your avatar, use this to reset your avatar and try logging in again https://vrchat.com/home/avatars
glad hazel
does the blender 2.83.4 different than 2.83 in it's compatibility with cats plugin? i have to reinstall everything because i reformatted my pc so.
covert chasm
Probably not, Cats generally works with any 2.8x version
karmic pollen
Why would you want to put your cat in a blender? Smh
glad hazel
o no
high tiger
Thank you for re-adding analog control to vive wands; going to turn off advanced control every time i wanted to use the analog control for closing fist was a bit tedious during the newest patch. 👍
covert chasm
Less of a re-add and more of a "oops, bug" 😛
but you're welcome either way! and now index users get it too (make sure you're using the default steamvr binding though)
high tiger
development be like that sometimes, only other complaint i had and still manage to have is accidently activating the radial menu; rebinding might fix that, but its a bit hard to allocate for playspace dragging and the new radial menu without accidentally hitting it all the time,
will we be able to have the option to bind the radial seperately in Steam vr; given time? example being for myself; i'd put it on right wand; click in on down direction; and remove it from the VRC menu standard click.
(i havent checked currently if this can be rebound; so forgive me if this is a option that is already achievable.)
potent gate
About the radial menu, will it be possible to create custom menus using a different layout, like concentric circles?
high tiger
if it applies to PC; it means its aplicable for PC / VR users, the only thing you wont be able to use that model on is a standalone Quest, unless you rig and apply those needed things to make it able to be used on that platform as well.
grand wave
Well...I’m in quest
high tiger
okay so then there should be documentation via the website that outlines the pre-requisites, i believe with the newest SDK during building, you can switch the build target to android; this would make it so it would be targeting the quest ecosystem.
note; quest with a link cable and tethered to a PC i believe marks you as a PC user; so if that's your concern; you should be able to run pc avatars in that case.
grand wave
Do I only have to switch it to android before reupload it?
high tiger
if nothing fails in the building process; and your shaders are applicable to quest; it should be fine; yes.
vocal shard
my av2 avatar has knocked knees. yesterday was fine
high tiger
someone else can input if this information is not 100% accurate; i mostly work with PC assets.
grand wave
Thanks
vocal shard
this was supposed to fix knees right?
high tiger
@vocal shard > it wont fix the rig issues if the model you have is using any kind of rig hacks; and its currently still in development, expect bugs and tweaks as things go on. (eg 0 length bones; flipped hips etc.) since VRC is currently migrating to more proportionate characters, i expect if the models are not proportionate; it will cause issues even with the newer fixes.
i'm going to be patient and just work on my models; getting them FBT ready; and let things simmer otherwise; most of my stuff is functional for the time being.
vocal shard
there r no rig hacks
high tiger
then if there's no rigging issues, proportions are fine, and the idle's and or general animations are not affecting the model, let the team know you're having issues in the appropriate channels, (possibly with a screen shot with proof of the inherent issue) and it might be corrected with a update. 👌
try to provide information that is applicable, and it can help lead to correcting it even if it might be a one off case; you never know.
vocal shard
proportions cannot be fixed or itll break the look of the model. but knees are bent slightly forward on the model to make sure they dont knock. They were fine yesterday. Today, knocked
fading violet
vrchat
high tiger
Humanoid, or non humanoid rigging?
vocal shard
humanoid
high tiger
try during rigging changing it to "Enforce T pose" under the rigging options and upload it as a varient of the original to see if it persists?
vocal shard
ill try
I have the same problem as before
i selected the option, uploaded, switched out avatars and loaded it again, same problem
I tagged you with a screenshot
high tiger
I'm not sure; but i don't think the foot bone is supposed to be completely flat to the floor, it should be more arched down at around a 30~ degree angle, if that wont remedy it, someone with more experience might be better suited to help from here; and if the over-all rigging has no issues; it might just be up to devs to check over things and make sure there's nothing currently wigging out in-game still, as this is a new patch going on; issues are to be expected.
I'm about to head in-game and check over a few things myself, if i find anything I'll follow up here as well.
vocal shard
thank you, Medz, I really appreciate your help. Ill look into the foot angle