#vrchat-general-2

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rigid crescent
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:) hm

faint skiff
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You do all the rest outside of VR beforehand, that's where you're going wrong.

indigo fern
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not sure what the percentage is of people who get it perfect the way they want it first export

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vs the ones that are like, its not perfect but i dont wanna export again

faint skiff
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Oh, and don't forget that other people can interact with your dynamic bones, one of the most requested features ever, lol. So when someone walks behind me, my tail swirls Infront of them, or you can brush a foxes tail around, etc.

umbral reef
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Well the amount of users that actually makes avatars and cares about them functioning right is from what i ahve seen low as shit

indigo fern
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not just smack it around either, you can straight up grab them too

umbral reef
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Because boy there are plenty of avatars that just require one or two button presses to look a fair bit better that dont get done at all

indigo fern
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while we were just chillin some guy was applying dynamic bones to me, i always find it funny when other people are just like, lemme fix you in game

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he was looking at me under the hood 😳

faint skiff
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World loading is a massive thing too, worlds load almost immediately then stuff loads in around you. The time you spend waiting is like 3 seconds, as opposed to long loading screens between every transition. It made such a difference on my trash connection.

indigo fern
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thats a cool thing too yea, kinda like lavenders elevator loading with other people

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but you know, not a fuckin elevator lmao

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i like that when you swap worlds it saves your position in the previous world

faint skiff
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Also everything is asseted, so if that person then changes that world and I go back, it only has to load what was added or changed, not the whole world again. Or if worlds share any assets, you've already got them from the other world, etc.

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I went to a non winter version of a map the other night and I literally didn't have to load anything as it was the same map, but just without the snow and snowflakes.

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So it was like yup you've got all these meshes and textures. All done.

indigo fern
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i dont like that when host leaves the world is just closed, they have those headless servers, but it doesnt help when im just in my own place dicking around and the whole game joins me

viscid seal
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Is neos still a remix/share based system?

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where if you make something, its automatically shared with everyone that wants it

faint skiff
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Only if you want it to be, afaik

indigo fern
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you can private avatars and things you make im pretty sure

viscid seal
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ah ok

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I'm assuming you can private worlds then?

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but keep them public for visiting?

indigo fern
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yea, you can turn off others ability to edit or touch it

faint skiff
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And you can make them private, invite only, lan only, friends only, etc, give different permissions to different groups of people, etx

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The fact I lost internet and didn't get kicked off the game either, as well as retaining my position in all the rooms was nice too.

viscid seal
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oh i see, I assumed it was remix only so I stayed away from it

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still not really interested in it though

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especially with the small playerbase, not gonna spend months making a world only for 30 people to play it possibly

indigo fern
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maybe not for creation in your case, but its still worth checking out just to see how it is

faint skiff
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Understandable, my annoyance just stems from how limited VRC is and the amount of longstanding issues and complete lack of any QOS fixes.

viscid seal
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fair enough, the devs are pretty stacked with the amount of work they have

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and they are prioritising unity 2018 + udon right now first

indigo fern
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gearbell is on neos pretty often, every now and then i see them on the public list

viscid seal
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not difficult when you're only one of 30 people

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gotta stay in public that way 😛

indigo fern
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nah, they have a channel in the server that lists all the public instances and whos in them, its really easy to look if you want to log on

faint skiff
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2018 doesn't actually seem to bring us any improvements (them tweaking the IK is separate) and Udon is a disappointment due to the fact it's still missing so many basics and existing worlds can't use it.

viscid seal
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udon isn't complete yet, if there's something missing

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request it

faint skiff
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So basically the only thing anyone will see with the new update is better IK and that's basically it.

desert stratus
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udon is

pale timber
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what's udon

indigo fern
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i know for you specifically udon was dead when you were told you cant just easily port a sdk2 world to sdk3, since youve been working on one before it

pale timber
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i want food

desert stratus
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ykno...still in alpha

faint skiff
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What, wih 2500 existing outstanding requests, requesting anything ever seems like a complete waste of time.

ruby needle
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only i mean it is quite a good change that's done with the IK 😄

rigid crescent
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Most of them are trash requests tbh

faint skiff
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Oh wow, they unbroke the IK which in itself was just a regression from last year anyway...

viscid seal
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if your request is good enough, they'll take it into consideration

indigo fern
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dont forget its just a fix for a bad net ik they themselves put in lmao

faint skiff
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What a great new feature

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Exactl

indigo fern
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we can finally play like its 2017 ik again

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whoa

rigid crescent
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Pepohappy

indigo fern
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widePeepoHappy

ruby needle
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except without the old worse performance cirBaka

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at least from that department... cirBaka

rigid crescent
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To be fair people seem to forget how bad 2017 is compared to what we have e

indigo fern
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before cameras the game was gud

viscid seal
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yeah, we couldn't have 70+ world in 2017

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we can have 80 player worlds and be at 30 frames

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so there were some good things about 2018

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and unity 2018 seems to improve Ik more

faint skiff
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I mean it's debatable that we can now given the performance. I wouldn't say 20fps on a 2080Ti is really acceptable...

indigo fern
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you probably can, i constantly hear people saying how at com meetups they have like 80 ghosts walking around anyway

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lakuza got that god pc

viscid seal
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nothing brand new

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base 1080

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got the pc end of of 2016

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haven't upgraded it since

pale timber
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i have a 2011 model cpu

rigid crescent
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Before even 20 was pushing it

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Overall we've come pretty far in terms of performance

indigo fern
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i actually think the performance rank shaming helped with some of it lmao

faint skiff
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Unfortunately theres enough eboys now and people just reupping from vrcm that rooms are full of terrible performance avatars again.

lusty quarry
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me sitting over here with my voxel avatar

wary hollow
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lol never understand why some have so many Dynamic bones i have 6 and my avatar looks pretty good everything moving

opaque hawk
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Lots of people complaining about performance, but there have been instances where everyone actually had performant avatars the world easily holds 60+ people

lusty quarry
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i don't even have any dynamic bones :o

indigo fern
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depends how long your hair is too, for shorter hair i have like 2

faint skiff
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@wary hollow Think about it

opaque hawk
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I have 0 dynamic bones too, I have gotten people question why I would opt to not have it.

wary hollow
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hmmm but still i see people with hundred + @faint skiff what could be the reason other then just having too many

wild oracle
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Not gonna lie I'm waiting for 2018 build so badly

indigo fern
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in the cases of the ones with hundreds, thats just poor optimization

viscid seal
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i miss the old world review form

indigo fern
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like some mmd long hairs have a shit ton of bones because they literally werent made for realtime

viscid seal
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seeing the reasons why worlds were rejected back then

indigo fern
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the public forms were godly

viscid seal
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and the comments from reviewers were like 1000 dynamic bone collisions on avatars

deft girder
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I loved going trough that form back then

lusty quarry
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yeh, i just don't have any cause my model doesn't really need them? tbf it's the model in my pfp so i doubt it could use any hair dynamic bones but there's a few parts that could have them that i'm just too lazy to add it to lol

rigid crescent
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I miss it too

indigo fern
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"not lag free, i had to pay for it"

rigid crescent
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We'd have so much trash filtered

viscid seal
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XD

faint skiff
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What, you mean you don't want 200 different copies of THE BOX uploaded?

wary hollow
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btw i dont remember exactly but was it in 2018 you can interact with people dynamic bones and now u cant

indigo fern
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you could never

viscid seal
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you could

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there was a workaround that kareeda came up with

lusty quarry
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uh?

indigo fern
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oh, with that airship kareeda ye

viscid seal
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yeah ^_^

lusty quarry
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o kareeda, yeh

viscid seal
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so people had boob colliders

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that others could mess with

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before that method broke

wary hollow
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hmmmm

indigo fern
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some of my friends had cross avatar interactions, like you could slap ass with a sound, automatically with no gesture

wary hollow
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i saw people do it still but asking them they said modded client so hmmm

indigo fern
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well thats the popular method now i guess

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before there was a method without that tho

lusty quarry
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eat grass, slap ass

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:3

ruby needle
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it's disgusting how far people go and how the abuse of such things in a sexual way skyrocket once they exist.

rancid yew
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Hmm?

viscid seal
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it wasn't friendly for worlds anyways

indigo fern
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people like pleasuring themselves, whoa crazy

viscid seal
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objects would get knocked over so easy

lusty quarry
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makes sense

viscid seal
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and trigger enter triggers etc

wary hollow
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its best used to touch people hair

faint skiff
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People will always be assholes, it's best to deal with them than nerf the few features the game has.

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Users literally have no way to interact with each other and most world interation is painfully obviously fake.

wary hollow
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sadly that will effect people who dont use it in bad intentions @faint skiff

viscid seal
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wasn't really a feature though

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it was a hacky workaround

indigo fern
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everything is a hacky workaround tbhonest

viscid seal
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devs have said in future they want to have some form of player interaction in future

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so its on the cards, just not the priority atm

indigo fern
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its in the cards and they have a whole deck in their hand

viscid seal
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yup 🙂

indigo fern
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and still manage to go fish

wary hollow
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could be nice if ur controller touches a person at certain speed like a punch it vibrates

vale wave
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Oh mo

viscid seal
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that should be doable with udon now anyways

faint skiff
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VRChat's entire world functionality is hacky workarounds, look at pretty much every prefab, it's a nightmarish mess of trigger nonsense.

viscid seal
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yeah its confined to a world though

faint skiff
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I'm honestly amazed anything works, but what does work always feels fake due to the jank introduced through how it all has to be implemented.

viscid seal
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and not something you can take into somewhere like the pug and mess up everything

faint skiff
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"On the cards" means somewhere between the distant future and never...

viscid seal
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ok

faint skiff
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Sorry, I've just become disenchanted with it all lately. Repeatedly hitting walls and dealing with hack on hack, as well as glacial changes and improvements of what could have been something great.

molten gale
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Theres only 80 versions of the box uploaded, I counted

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Well public ones anyways

opaque hawk
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Visit the Quantum box

molten gale
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I only like worlds that visually look nice

opaque hawk
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Then you should avoid the quantum box as it is a world that messes with player positions as a joke

broken plover
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so you dont like my world :<

molten gale
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I dont even like my world

viscid seal
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cyan's version of the box when 😭

molten gale
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That ones fun

viscid seal
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the best version XD

opaque hawk
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Lol, its fun to mess with when you kind of know how it works

viscid seal
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🙂

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is quantum box doing the same thing or something?

opaque hawk
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"Hey everyone I'm going to drop a portal"

viscid seal
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I've not heard of that world

opaque hawk
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Yeah its peptron's using wall walking bugs

vale wave
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i am roy

molten gale
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I wanna meet more ppl but too shy

rigid crescent
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Lakuza Cube pls

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LaKUBEa

viscid seal
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nice, will have to check that out. We could go there on world hop too maybe if it supports enough players 🤔

opaque hawk
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I think so

molten gale
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World hops are nice

viscid seal
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I don't think its possible for me to spend time on something that is just a cube x_x It would end up having a lot of feature creep

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throw in a boss battle in there because why not

opaque hawk
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max player cap is 40

molten gale
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its 80 thoretically

opaque hawk
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yes

faint skiff
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Is VRChat Heaven a deliberate crash world? I remember being warned about it when I first started but never got confirmation.

molten gale
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I wish I had a few people more to hang around with on other times

opaque hawk
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Paci you could hang out in a corner at events until you are ready to talk to people or people start talking to you.

pale timber
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^

molten gale
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I already do that sometimes

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and it makes me very sad

stuck oracle
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@pale timber you get any sleep?

pale timber
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some

molten gale
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I got up at 4 pm

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Making a meme avatar

vocal shard
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anyone else get numb toes from standing in vrchat for more than an hour?

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@molten gale I know how you feel :c

hollow gazelle
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@wispy ether

lusty quarry
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yeah, getting out of your comfort zone is hard, i have yet to truly start being social in worlds and stuff. so it's a learning curve and you'll eventually get accustomed to it ❤️

molten gale
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Problem is I have 300 friends and dunno how I got em

lusty quarry
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same LOL

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i have around 250 friends and most of them don't even remember who i am cause i didn't play for a while

molten gale
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Problem most are same timezone

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Soooo bored in afternoon

lusty quarry
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i usually play in the afternoon lol

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mainly cause my tracking fucks up in the day, cause it's so light in my room

molten gale
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F

lusty quarry
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i've tried loads of things, but none of it seems to work when i try in the day lol. everything starts freakin' out

pseudo basalt
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Most my friends are american or have bad sleep cycles so I have nobody on during the day vrcAevSlap

lusty quarry
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eh, i try getting on in the day sometimes but my tracking is just like No.

inner cape
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get curtains, stupid

lusty quarry
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i have curtains l0l

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still tracks like i'm in the desert

pseudo basalt
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What headset are you using

molten gale
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I should shower

inner cape
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you have any large mirrors in the room?

vocal shard
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Well damn Paci i only have like 8! XD

lusty quarry
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don't have any mirrors although i have a few other monitors

pseudo basalt
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I took down my 2 small mirrors and all my tracking problems disappeared

lusty quarry
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also, HTC Vive

pseudo basalt
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Vive too

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Shouldn't be getting tracking issues with the vive regardless of light

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Unless you have some weird ir inteference somehow

lusty quarry
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i have like 3 reflective monitors in my VR space so i just got 3 coats and put them all on the different monitors lol

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see if that works

pseudo basalt
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reflective stuff is usually the issue with the vive it seems

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but it's easier to fix

frigid musk
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can anyone help me make a very simple custom avatar i just wanna add a hat to kemrit the frog

opaque hawk
frigid musk
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thx

pure hemlock
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I found the solution recently to making friends in VRChat. Wear a very lewd avatar in full body tracking and shake your butt to dance music in random public worlds. Everyone will love you. Oh and make sure your avatar has butt physics.

faint skiff
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Not sure those people are likely to be... friends...

pure hemlock
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Only half of them tried to sexually assault my avatar

opaque hawk
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Hard agree with Enverex

pure hemlock
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If I shove them all into the friend zone, they're my friends right?

pale timber
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^

silk hollow
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Me- tries to be social in a medium sized world
My 1060 3gb- nope

pale timber
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mine works fine

molten gale
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Same here

muted wharf
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I used to run VRChat on a 970 like ~2+ years ago. Wasn't too too bad

opaque hawk
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Graphics card is important, but a cpu is much more important -a guy with a 1050ti

pale timber
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well not when i have a 2011 cpu

opaque hawk
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2020 I'm getting a new PC, one with cpu from the second half of the 2010's decade.

molten gale
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Beginnin next year ill have saved up enough money to buy a pc with the best currently available parts

tall hill
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alguien habla español :v?

molten gale
regal furnace
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is it possible to use something like fake fbt for OpenVR Advanced Settings to drag myself around without my body to be glued to the ground?

broken plover
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Yes there are playspace movers that have a fake fbt option

rigid crescent
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I ran a 1060 3GB just "fine" most of the time.

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It definitely wasnt unplayable tho and I'd rank that as anything less than a consistent 45FPS. I only blocked animations as well.

broken plover
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my gpu is worse than a 1050ti and its rarely at 100% while playing vrchat. My cpu is a bottleneck though

regal furnace
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@broken plover you know one?

faint skiff
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It really depends on the world.

rigid crescent
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Very true even now I tend not to hang out in crappy worlds

umbral oracle
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@regal furnace get your character to be un-grounded (e.g. jumping repeatedly) and you can move up and down however you want, even without fbt.
Good trick to stay ungrounded is open the settings menu while jumping and then move around

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But yeah the old input emulator let you do this and other cool stuff... sadly it is no longer maintained and you need some patches to get it working if it even still works

regal furnace
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thats what i was afraid of, too much trouble to do simple stuff... maybe i'll get myself a 360 Kinect soon (I only have a 180° setup anyways)

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is there an extra adapter needed to connect it with pc?

velvet galleon
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Lately I've been having fun turning into the giant transformer avatar and freaking people out (but in a silly way not a toxic way)
I feel bad sometimes but tbh if someone says it bothers them I turn into a tiny ferret instead

pure hemlock
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Did anyone have constant memory leak issues trying to hang out in public new years square maps on new years eve? Like every 30 minutes VRChat would consume all my RAM and I'd have to reboot it.

vocal shard
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that's a vrchat issue in general

frosty veldt
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You can do garbage collection by going home twice in a row, should clear RAM used by avatars at least

west solar
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yo wannaone wanna play with me vr chat???

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anyone*

gray citrus
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Ello everyone.

stuck oracle
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I learned the hard way not to spend too long in the pug

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So Many avatars eats up my ram and slowly kills me pc

vocal shard
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That's basically most of these big worlds

gray citrus
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The Pug absolutely destroys me every time.

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I'll return there when I upgrade my PC. But for now I avoid it like the plague. Even when I get invited there.

stuck oracle
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I enjoy playing with friends in private worlds it’s nice to just chill and hang out

opaque hawk
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Going to the pug in a friends+ instance is really nice. The creator of that map has spent a lot of time optimizing it.

stuck oracle
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Yeah it’s a nice map no doubt

gray citrus
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Oh yeah it's not the map it's the players

faint skiff
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Disabling Very Poor avatars also helps

stuck oracle
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Eh I like seeing avatars

gray citrus
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Me too. Hence me wanting to upgrade. My graphics card might be fine I think? But I really wanna upgrade to a good i7 over my i5 processor.

opaque hawk
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Public instances tend to never die so errors from worlds or unity tend to stack up forever. So really popular worlds tend to have that problem.

stuck oracle
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it’s sometimes nice to get into a public world and no one is in it, it’s like a calm before the storm

gray citrus
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I like being in public worlds. To me that's part of the essence of the game. Private worlds are fine I guess but when i get on and I see all my friends in private worlds I like going to public ones to meet new people and see the hilarity that this game is.

stuck oracle
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Yeah vrchat wouldn’t be vrchat without it’s public worlds

onyx compass
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I spend a lot of my time at the vrchat hub tbh

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the rubber ring things are so funny if you put someone in there and throw them across the map

gray citrus
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I do too. A lot of newbies go there so I like meeting them and helping them out.

stuck oracle
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As long as the right people are in the world it’s fun to be in any world

gray citrus
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@onyx compass you can fling yourself too XD

onyx compass
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yes i do that a lot

gray citrus
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Sadly some of the really cool worlds out there when i join with friends I get lag spikes. I really need to upgrade x.x but I'm glad I can play at all.

stuck oracle
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Does clearing cache help at all in game?

gray citrus
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Especially in VR. It's funny, I've spent the most time on this game and I've paid money for my other vr games. Hell my most expensive vr game I barely play.

onyx compass
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it will

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it helps me a lot

gray citrus
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But I've invested the most money into this one

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Uhhh

faint skiff
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Protip on the rubber rings. Get in one, then grab your own ring. Enjoy.

stuck oracle
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Cus I check after long sessions and it’s like 7gb and I clear it and the game seems to run a bit better after

onyx compass
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I always feel left out when most people use a vr headset and im not

gray citrus
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How do I clear the cache?

onyx compass
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settings

stuck oracle
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Performance

gray citrus
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Oh right there's an option in game

onyx compass
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yeah

gray citrus
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Thanks lol

onyx compass
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If anyone wants to play with me, my username is KHMB

stuck oracle
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Don’t feel left out on desktop, my one friend is in desktop and we have just as much fun

gray citrus
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Mine is the same.

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Well, ACME, not KHMB lol

cold verge
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now i know im not the only one that has problems of leak memory lol

onyx compass
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it's probably more fun on a headset but equally as fun on a keyboard i hope

cold verge
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seeing 48GB of ram full is like " BRUH"

gilded helm
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oh yeah

stuck oracle
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My desktop friend has 400+ hours, I think you’re good @onyx compass

gilded helm
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the fucking memory leaks make me want to shoot myself

gray citrus
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Lol man I need to check my cache then

opaque hawk
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its fun on a keyboard, but more fun on vr

gilded helm
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Also VR is 100 times better than desktop

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but desktop is still fun

onyx compass
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I only got 3 hours, but it seems like so much more

stuck oracle
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it is more fun but you still get the experience somewhat on desktop

gray citrus
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VR is way better but lately annoying for me only because one of my base stations is out.

gilded helm
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I have played 200h in desktop

stuck oracle
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The only thing Ur missing out on is moving your arms

gray citrus
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:/ I guess if I play seated it will be okay but I like to play standing since I have fbt

gilded helm
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and properly picking up items

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and a lot of games

cold verge
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i played like 3000hours on desktop before getting a VR, and i barely use it

gray citrus
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It's a lot more than moving your arms. There's just a sense of presence you can't replace on desktop. If you care about that sort of thing that is.

ruby needle
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wait, you have a VR headset but you rather play desktop?

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That's a interesting one.

cold verge
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yeah

broken plover
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its called lnext level lazyness

gray citrus
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A few people are like that. Some end up selling their headsets.

broken plover
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ebag does that too

gilded helm
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I get nauseous by playing on desktop

vocal shard
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🗿

gilded helm
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FOV is so weird

cold verge
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well i suffer constant motion sickness due to an injury on my ear cannal

gray citrus
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Wait. Nausea from desktop??

gilded helm
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yeah

ruby needle
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aw 😦

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I see 😦

gray citrus
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Is VR better?

gilded helm
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FOV on desktop feels like

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60

onyx compass
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I love how you can put the snowman head on someones head with vr

gray citrus
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I've never heard of someone getting motion sickness from desktop mode...

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That's interesting. How is VR play for you then?

cold verge
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i do

gilded helm
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VR gives me proper FOV so I don't get nauseous

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I don't play games usually without FOV sliders

gray citrus
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Ahh

gilded helm
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but the FOV on desktop is stupid lol

cold verge
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the only way i don't get motion sickness is playing drunk, im a special case

onyx compass
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you can change it cant you?

gilded helm
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i don't think so?

onyx compass
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hm, i thought you could, strange

gray citrus
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Nope. Maybe it could be a feature in the future? If people have suggested it.

onyx compass
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I think it'd be a good idea

gray citrus
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Actually there's something I'd like to put in the suggestion box myself...

gilded helm
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forever stuck on canny

onyx compass
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go ahead and post it :)

gilded helm
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time to make an attempt again

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at making my own avatar

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all mmd bases are just so fucking skinny I don't like it

onyx compass
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im gonna play some now

lunar cedar
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You looking for the thicc girls?

onyx compass
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👀

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Im looking for friends lol

lunar cedar
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I meant Jon lol

gilded helm
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yes

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I want thicc girls because I don

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't like skinny women

fresh pulsar
#

sup guys what's cooking?

gray citrus
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Ah someone has my suggestion already! 🙂

lunar cedar
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O. Miku and friends (ie TDA) are all slim

gilded helm
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ye

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but maybe taking a shorter avatar and making them bigger

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could work

west solar
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dm me if you wanna play vr chat with me

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im bored like hell

onyx compass
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Im down

gray citrus
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@fresh pulsar just chattin'. How's you?

fresh pulsar
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@gray citrus ima good i think bro

lunar cedar
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I was about to say I've seen thiccified tda bases before but I wasn't sure where source was

gilded helm
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Should that one be good do you think?

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I suck at making avatars I swear lol

lunar cedar
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Same

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Probably good?

gilded helm
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why do they have to put nipples on the avatars

gray citrus
#

Some people like really complete models I guess.

lunar cedar
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Oof, just get some sandpaper and smooth em out

gray citrus
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LOL

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Ouch

twin fractal
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oww

late jay
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anyone wanna play

fresh pulsar
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@gray citrus ima go sub to your youtube chanel

twin fractal
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no thanks vrcLaughing

lunar cedar
#

Probably not too difficult to remove it from the texture at least. I think that would be good enough

gray citrus
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o.o oh

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Well I mean, if you like the content go ahead. Don't sub just for the sake of giving me a sub lol

late jay
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😕

fresh pulsar
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@gray citrus nah man just saw all your vids i like it

gray citrus
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Oh, well thank you! I've had a bit of a hiatus from the channel due to technical difficulties but once I get my vr fixed I should be back to making videos!

fresh pulsar
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@gray citrus ok dude keep up the good work and someday maybe ill play VR Chat again

gilded helm
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What do they mean with morphable lol

west solar
#

bruh

gilded helm
#

this base has a goddamn vagina

west solar
#

omg

gilded helm
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Why do they do this to the good bases

broken plover
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just edit it out

gilded helm
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couldn't seperate the model by the materials anyway

opaque hawk
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select verts and delete

gilded helm
#

blender gives me brain tumors

gray citrus
#

Yeah they'll have those too. A lot of them.

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I guess some people like attention to detail.

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And other reasons... XD

twin fractal
#

delete by faces

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in edit mode

gilded helm
#

I already gave up

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i hate blender

gray citrus
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Learn to be blender's friend.

gilded helm
#

never

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Unity is the fun part

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blender is the cancer part

twin fractal
#

blender is lit tbh

gilded helm
#

I don't like the way it works nor the layout

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eh I already gave up

gray citrus
#

I like blender. I just don't know how to make stuff lol

gilded helm
#

i don't know how to make stuff but I don't like the program altogether

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very beginner unfriendly

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the only way I think I could learn how to use blender is by like watching someone making an avatar from start to finish

gray citrus
#

Uhhh, yeah blender's not the friendliest to beginners yeah but there's a TON of tutorials out there

gilded helm
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Haven't found a good yet for making avatars

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wow thanks for showing me the scale tool and showing me how to make an ugly avatar

broken plover
#

I learned how to use blender by watching a tutorial of how to 3D model from scratch in blender

gilded helm
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3d model from scratch?

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As in making everything yourself?

broken plover
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Yes. And then I made a toast

gilded helm
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I'm kinda only interested in making an ok frankenstein'd avatar

broken plover
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Those tutorials show you the basics of how to add and edit vertices and all that kind of stuff

gilded helm
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never been a design type of dude

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but public avatars are either:

  1. shit for fbt
  2. ugly
  3. looks like a pornstar
hollow gazelle
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ikr

faint skiff
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Filn's are cute

opaque hawk
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need to look harder. I have used a few fbt avatars that don't check any of those boxes.

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I will give you that I do see that trend.

gilded helm
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Idk I want a hot avatar that doesn't like an escort at the same time

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I currently use one from cables

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prob the one that looks the least lewd, but I like the tattoos and the thighs

hollow gazelle
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Lolis are good for fbt ive found.

gray citrus
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Enverex, I agree. I have one.

gilded helm
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I don't like lolis sadly

broken plover
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I only like to headpat them

gray citrus
#

I'm not totally in love with it but it's a really good avatar and I'm very used to using the facial emotes. And everyone kinda associates me with that avatar now.

gilded helm
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unironically the only loli that I like in any anime is koneko from highschool dxd

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Just checked filn's avatars

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not my thing

inner cipher
#

speaking of dxd anyone know where u can find dxd avatars? i only saw one world with issei, koneko, and rias, all but issei were private

gilded helm
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search for dxd maybe?

inner cipher
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i just did

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thats what i found

opaque hawk
desert stratus
#

dont worry

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as you get farther into avatar creation

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you start to realize how nice blender is

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then you start really despising unity

gray citrus
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show me da wae

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I have little 3D skill lol

faint skiff
#

So which of them were responsible for the world size and poor frame rate? Lol

rigid crescent
#

i wonder if they'll post the list of people who were "contacted" but not really

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🙂

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but whoever caused the world to tank CPUs, fess up!

rough pulsar
#

Since the vast majority of work was on the posters which are just images I don't think it was any of us who were at fault.

vocal shard
#

hey can obj files not be used in blender?

ruby needle
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obj can be used

vocal shard
#

wonder what im doing wrong then, they wont appear in my folder

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even unzipped

ruby needle
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do you try to use the import model button from cats?

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you will need to import trough blender it self

vocal shard
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oooh, let me get that

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thanks

ruby needle
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also, if it is supposed to become a avatar, OBJ are pure meshes, no armature / rig

vocal shard
#

yeah, the ones ive found dont have rigging, so I guess i need to do it manually?

ruby needle
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yup

vocal shard
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and I do that through blender and not unity correct?

ruby needle
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ofc yes.

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Unity is a engine, Blender a model program.

vocal shard
#

k just want to make sure

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hmmm, does it work with the newest blender or do i have to download 2.79b for cats?

desert stratus
#

@vocal shard cat's is compatible all the way up to blender 2.81

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which you should be using

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its literally 2020

vocal shard
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I dont see the extra additions it adds though, like cats mmd and vr helper tabs

opaque hawk
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press n

vocal shard
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:O

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thank you, sorry I sound like a complete idiot, cant find much for tutorials on 2.81, maybe I shouldnt look for just vrchat ones and just 3d modeling in general

lunar cedar
#

Is the mat combiner updated for 2.8 yet? Last I tried it it broke when trying to create multiple atlases

ruby needle
#

you could use 2.79b if you wanted to

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there is a lot of guides for that one at least 😄

vocal shard
#

lol

stuck oracle
#

I learned the basics of avatar stuff last night and can’t wait to make my own avatar 😳

opaque hawk
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Material combiner is updated for 2.8

vocal shard
#

well I think I did something wrong, It wont import the model from cats, but through blender it doesnt upload with texture

opaque hawk
#

currently use it with 2.81

vocal shard
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maybe i need the source tool since the model is in a source folder

idle nova
#

2.81 isn't a big change from 2.8 so tutorials for that are still very much relevant

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The biggest thing you'll see different is how the file browser looks, but it's not that far off

pale timber
#

oh

vocal shard
#

I was in a vrchat video on YouTube, apparently

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well im stuck, this model wont import from cats :\

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It was on new years day, and I was doing my pennywise voice

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Nop

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is there something special i have to do in order to import a model that is a zip file? I doesn't seem to understand that its a model and fails to import it

opaque hawk
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extract it from the zip

vocal shard
#

I did that too and it doesnt appear from the folder

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unless cats cant do objs

opaque hawk
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blender can import objs, but they don't appear for cats

vocal shard
#

ahhh ok, so its a different process then? just import the model and texture through blender and not cats itself?

ruby needle
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the thing is CATS is made for simple avatar import and prept not full model creation and such

opaque hawk
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also rig

ruby needle
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yup, gotta rig it all, create shape key, and so on cirPrise

vocal shard
#

I would have to anyhow for this model, I'll go look for another one that isnt a obj and go from there

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k I imported a fbx model through cats (untitled goose model) and the fix model option doesn't come up and the goose is silver

#

Hi guys, I have a problem with the game, when I try to enter a room I get an error 0.00% is there a solution?

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this is so confusing

uncut mirage
#

hiii

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how to change avatar to robot???

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oh xd

lofty haven
#

anyone need a friend? :'

cinder rose
#

I have no friends literally people hate me in reality

vocal shard
#

Now that is a real problem

lofty haven
#

man same ive been venturing around vrchat servers every now and then just tryna interact

opaque hawk
#

@uncut mirage left shit and \

west solar
#

dm me if you wanna play vr chat with me

vocal shard
#

Luckily I can help you @cinder rose

fluid pecan
#

where can i find black male avatars

cinder rose
#

In vr is the only place we’re I can make friends

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Meet nice people

west solar
#

anyone wanna play vr with me or nah

cinder rose
#

But reality i have to fight with people who hate me my life is not good hard to survive

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Who has a good life in this chat?

lofty haven
#

everyone always has something wrong i guess

cinder rose
#

Hmm

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I’m sorry but I may have to leave now that last sentence kinda trigger me bye

drowsy timber
#

Tonight i was the goddess of tits and beer, it was a good night. That is all.

north axle
#

Egh, I just had a nightmare and woke up, now it’s like 3 AM and I dunno if I should play VR instead for now.

brisk shadow
#

Random question but, can no one else make discord calls? If I get into a call with someone, they just have the green bubble 24/7, like they never stop talking. But I cant hear them, and they can't hear me.

drowsy timber
#

You had a nightmare and your first thought is to play VR ? Maybe try something a little less... ya know nightmare inducing, like knitting 🙂

north axle
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I wanted to have a 2-hour nap first, then spend an hour or two with my VR friends while they’re online at this time of the day/night, and then go back to sleep, like I do sometimes, but this time was a little different.

drowsy timber
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Ah, that makes a little more sense, my limited expierence with VR so far is mainly nightmare fuel

north axle
#

Nah, my dream wasn’t even related to VR or any of my friends at all. I don’t even know the person who was the victim of something I saw before I woke up.

drowsy timber
#

Well, i'd offer a hug if i could. Maybe some milk and a cookie

untold latch
#

I need help

north axle
#

Oh, thanks but I’ll pass on milk, I didn’t have the most stomach-friendly experience just now.

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What’s up, Rocko?

untold latch
#

How do I make it so people can't change to my Vrchat character?

ruby needle
#

if its your own uploaded avatar, change it to private

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if it's a public avatar, disable cloning in the settings

untold latch
#

can you send me a screenshot in dms

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of what it looks like so I can do it later

ruby needle
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Open your settings and look for the right entry cirHuh

north axle
#

Go to your VRC settings, you’ll find it there.

ruby needle
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i think the point is called "allow avatar cloning"

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dunno for sure tho.

gray citrus
#

Ello again.

trim oracle
#

its a checkbox after you hit build and publish

faint skiff
#

No, that's the Private/Public option, which is separate to the "Allow Cloning" option in the menu

finite peak
#

any other trans people here? :D

vocal shard
#

two people come to mind

meager solstice
#

I am not trans but there is a good sized lgbtq community on vrchat @finite peak

vocal shard
#

one isn't really active

finite peak
#

@meager solstice cool! :))

lean veldt
#

finally got new user rank and I just downloaded some random mixamo character and put it through blender and the sdk and it actually worked this is so cool

finite peak
#

funnn

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:)

lean veldt
#

now all I gotta do is like model my own thing

#

this gonna be epic
I am so friggin hyped

meager solstice
#

@lean veldt congrats have fun making ur models

lean veldt
#

thx man

gilded helm
#

got crashed and now I can't rejoin the world i was in

#

happy times

olive hull
#

I kinda wish there was more to do in vrchat

covert blade
#

Like?

olive hull
#

just the same worlds over and over

#

i dunno, something new?-

covert blade
#

Yeah but like what?

faint skiff
#

Go to different worlds then, not the same ones over and over?

olive hull
#

I mainly check out other worlds yea, but its not entirely fun when your like the only person there lol

covert blade
#

That's why ya get yerself some friends

rigid crescent
#

There's nothing to do but socialize

#

it's a social game

faint skiff
#

Yeah, go world hopping with friends

gray citrus
#

I mean there are games within vrchat

rigid crescent
#

if you want something to do, you play a game with a goal and gameplay

covert blade
#

I'm frequently in new worlds because we decide that we wanna go somewhere else

rigid crescent
#

They're all pretty bad and most are even worse alone.

olive hull
#

I make friends, yeah, they aren't the friends that stay tho

gray citrus
#

Alone, maybe. But there are some enjoyable games in VRChat.

rigid crescent
#

Well, not all. Most are though, but the better ones are multiplayer.

#

Yeah but playing games in VRC together is socializing lol that's still the main point of the game

gray citrus
#

Yes ofc.

olive hull
#

i know that, jeezums.

abstract nymph
#

I was playing VRChat and the game would get kind of glitchy or laggy whatever. Like when I move my head the game screen wouldn’t follow for a few seconds kek

#

Kind of annoying

#

Does this happen to anyone else? Or..

olive hull
#

your on pc right?

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try restarting the pc first

abstract nymph
#

Well I’m using VR

olive hull
#

oh vive or oculus

abstract nymph
#

Oculus rift s

olive hull
#

you restart the oculus software in the settings

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then you reopen it up

abstract nymph
#

Nah that’s not gonna do anything this happens like every time I play VRChat

olive hull
#

its probably your pc then

abstract nymph
#

It might, but it’s already pretty powerful 🤔

#

Wait does vrchat have a graphic setting

olive hull
#

yeah

#

it does, it should be in the settings

abstract nymph
#

Uhhh is it that safety stuff?

olive hull
#

strange though, because i dont get those issues in vrchat

#

whats your specs?

sour lily
#

mine's been stuttering a bit lately but idc

abstract nymph
#

Uhh well it’s a laptop, but it has RTX 2060, intel i7 9th gen

#

Yeah that’s probably a better word my game like stutters >_> it’s not a big issue, but it does happen enough that I can notice it

olive hull
#

well there you go, its on a laptop

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Thats REALLY common in vr

#

stuttering because your on a laptop lol

abstract nymph
#

I’d play on my desktop, but pretty sure my desktop does worst compared to my laptop

#

¯_(ツ)_/¯

olive hull
#

list s p e c s

abstract nymph
#

All I know about my desktop is it has a gtx 1060 and an i5

olive hull
#

at least it meets the minium of the requirements

abstract nymph
#

True, but isn’t my laptop better? Kek

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Or would it be better to play VR on desktop

olive hull
#

ok ima make this clear

abstract nymph
#

._.

#

Ight explain it to me like I’m 6

olive hull
#

Laptop vr with better specs then desktop - Is good, but stutters will occur here and there due to it being on a laptop. Its more of an airflow issue. Plus laptops get heated p fast.

Desktop vr - Better airflow usually, and doesn't get that hot unless if you have alot of dust in it. Its generally better for VR since stutters won't occur as much since the heat goes away due to the airflow being better then a laptops.

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Desktop specs aren't even that bad, just make sure your not overdoing it by having high graphics 24/7

lunar cedar
#

Just get a stand for the laptop. It doesn't even need to be one with a fan. Just something to give some space underneath it.

olive hull
#

^

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or that

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still gonna get stutters tho

abstract nymph
#

That’s something I’ve thought about getting, but I’d have to wait when I get more money lmao I need a Razer one

#

I currently have an all Razer setup laptop, mouse, headset, mouse lmao

lunar cedar
#

No? My brother has a 1050 and i7-7700 in a laptop and it only stutters when someone with 100 mats comes in.

olive hull
#

Then laptop issue.

abstract nymph
#

Ok so basically VRChat is stuttering/lagging due to all the avatars and animations or something? 🤔

olive hull
#

Plus all builds aren't the same Jak.

lunar cedar
#

No, but the xps 15 is famous for power and thermal throttling (both occuring from VRM overheating)

olive hull
#

tru

abstract nymph
#

Alright so I have a Razer Blade 15 🤔

olive hull
#

Looking at the price for that and uh

abstract nymph
#

The Razer blade?

olive hull
#

I could build a better pc with that amount of money.

#

But is the laptop for like work and such?

abstract nymph
#

Mine?

olive hull
#

ye

abstract nymph
#

No just gaming lol

olive hull
#

interal screaming

abstract nymph
#

I mean I’ll also do school work

olive hull
#

should've watched a tutorial on buildin a desktop

lunar cedar
#

You could use a piece of plastic to give it some room underneath. Don't waste money on some branded product just to give it a few inches of space.

abstract nymph
#

Actually I was originally going to build a desktop, but then I switched to getting a laptop

#

Because my old laptop was shit

lunar cedar
#

Oof. Laptops suck. Never getting one again after my first.

abstract nymph
#

Honestly I kind of like gaming laptops yeah it isn’t the same experience of a badass desktop setup but I get to bring it around d and stuff

rigid crescent
#

I had the same fascination over a GaMiNg LaPtOp when i was younger too til i realized, unless you move a lot its just a waste of money

abstract nymph
#

No I totally agree that desktops are better I rather have a strong desktop, but with this laptop I can bring it to school and play GTA during math class or something lmao (I do t actually do that)

olive hull
#

My friend player csgo during class once, freeday really.

rigid crescent
#

Yeah you have to imagine, what scenarios are you really gaming on the go that you need something powerful

olive hull
#

Except he only did it so that when the bomb was planted he had it on speakers so it would be like THE BOMB HAS BEEN PLANTED.

abstract nymph
#

Uh power outage

#

Wait I can’t play games on my laptop if it isn’t plugged in nvm

olive hull
#

IT HAS To be plugged in!?

abstract nymph
#

Yeah if it’s not plugged in the fps just drops lmao

#

Like in gta I get like 200 fps but then when you u plug it, it drops to like 3

#

30*

lunar cedar
#

The battery would last 20 minutes if it didn't do that.

#

Might as well get a backpack desktop case or something like that.

abstract nymph
#

bruh

#

Anyways so uhh is VRChat one of those games where it’s always gonna have some kind of stutter or lag issues 🤔

gray citrus
#

Hm if you have a really good PC it's less likely

olive hull
#

i barley get any stuttering issues

#

if i do its because its some edge-kid spamming his effects with rap music

abstract nymph
#

It’s just so hard to tell if it’s the computer or the headset

gray citrus
#

Mine is like, mid grade so I get it occasionally depending on world and who's in it. I have a Core i5-8400 @2.80 GHz and a GTX 1060

#

More than likely not the headset.

olive hull
#

Computer most likely

#

The headsets are fine, i mean also it could be the light

crystal fossil
#

You can have a super computer and someone will come in and try their best to brick it. If you can run VR, you can run VRC. And it'll be the user's content lagging you. Not the game.

abstract nymph
#

Like sometimes I’ll turn, but the game won’t and so I’ll just like see blackness boarder and then after like a split seconds the game screen will centre

olive hull
#

2.8ghz shutter

abstract nymph
#

Lmao I remember on New Years I saw a army of tyler1 avatars

gray citrus
#

@crystal fossil I can run other VR games just fine 90% of the time but I don't have that same consistency with VRChat.

crystal fossil
#

I literally just explained.

abstract nymph
#

TRue

crystal fossil
#

It's not VRC.

abstract nymph
#

Honestly acme has a point all my other games run pretty darn fine ._.

gray citrus
#

Yeah I know lol but I was also gonna mention I know someone that has a way better computer and those kinds of avatars don't affect him

abstract nymph
#

Besides from nostos but that game is a mess

gilded helm
#

It's the cancerous community not the game's fault

olive hull
#

yeah

abstract nymph
#

Wait have you guys seen oasis on steam

crystal fossil
#

Every other game has everything premade and intentionally optimized. VRC is full of content uploaded by people that have no idea what they're doing.

olive hull
#

fact,

gray citrus
#

No I'm not blaming the game. I didn't mean to phrase it that way

abstract nymph
#

Oasis or what we it’s called

crystal fossil
#

If every user was a game dev, VRC would not lag.

gilded helm
#

in other words

gray citrus
#

Yeah I get ya.

gilded helm
#

vrchat has cancerous ppl, that's why it do be lagging

twin fractal
#

saigo true

abstract nymph
#

So it’s like g-mod kek

gray citrus
#

But since I play VRC often I wanna upgrade to handle everything. Especially for this project I'm working on

gilded helm
#

instead vrchat is laggy and lacks basic features

#

because nobody cares about optimization

olive hull
#

gmod doesnt lag tf

gilded helm
#

gmod only lags if you spawn 100k props

olive hull
#

^^^^^^^

gray citrus
#

gmod has vr?

gilded helm
#

no

vestal pier
#

yes

gilded helm
#

what?

vestal pier
#

it does

gilded helm
#

oh my god

gray citrus
#

Oh snap

vestal pier
#

on the workshop!

gilded helm
#

i dont wanna test that

vestal pier
#

its quite robust - go for it.

gilded helm
#

I hate gmod enough as is lmao

abstract nymph
#

Bruh gmod doesn’t lag??? Dude I spawned in all the touhou bosses and I had 1 fps

#

Actually I had a dio weapon and I stopped time but one of the bosses could also stop time so it actually crashed my computer

crystal fossil
#

If VRC wasn't so busy optimizing or firefighting to combat the intentional abuse or lack of optimization of it's userbase, I feel like we may have more features already.

olive hull
#

Useless

crystal fossil
#

¯_(ツ)_/¯

gilded helm
#

how to improve optimization

olive hull
#

In vrchat

#

Theres no such thing

gilded helm
#

don't feature shit avatar worlds with 95% of their avatars as "very poor"

abstract nymph
#

Wait so has anyone else seen or played that Oasis game on steam it’s like a clone of vrchat

gray citrus
#

It's a shame because user creation is a big part of what makes VRChat what it is

#

But it's a double edged sword

crystal fossil
#

You forget that world publicity is automated now.

gray citrus
#

No I haven't

crystal fossil
#

They tried manual approval for a bit.

#

It was too much.

gilded helm
#

I mean more like

#

having them as the first fucking search result

#

"Avatar Worlds"

crystal fossil
#

Because everyone goes there.

#

Of course the system will bump it to the front.

gilded helm
#

oh wow top 10 results are unoptimized

#

Make optimized avatars have a bigger priority

crystal fossil
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Everyone wants unoptimized avatars with 500 DB and glowing tattoos. Flashy effects to VR flex. Of course the system bumps it to the front.

abstract nymph
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I feel like I caused something f I shouldn’t have

gray citrus
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I don't really find those appealing.

gilded helm
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You have to change the mind of the creators if you want to go anywhere

gray citrus
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For one thing, a lot of us already assume those to be crashers.

crystal fossil
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It's on the avatar creators. Even when they manually approved everything, they still got cheeky and reuploaded bad versions once the worlds got approved. Humans be that way.

olive hull
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Its called

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Simply put, Fame

crystal fossil
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No, it's called Laziness.

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Because making the effort to optimize is too hard when you just wanna look cool in VRC.

olive hull
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Fine, laziness

gilded helm
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That's what I meant with having a system that ranks your avatar world

abstract nymph
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True I wanna look cool in vrchat but I also want people to like me

gilded helm
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based on multiple factors, with optimization taking a big part of it

crystal fossil
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Game devs make that kind of money for a reason. It's not easy to balance looks and performance, and that's only a small part of the job.

gilded helm
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balance looks

abstract nymph
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Who even makes vrchat

indigo fern
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We do

gray citrus
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An entire team.

abstract nymph
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Is it a small team or big or

gilded helm
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very small

crystal fossil
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The team is growing steadily.

gilded helm
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true

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as they are getting vive tracker dollars

crystal fossil
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They get funded quite a bit of money through investors.

gilded helm
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it grows

olive hull
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grows slowly

abstract nymph
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Wait why don’t they just make a limit to stuff?

gilded helm
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cause people find workarounds

crystal fossil
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Because they tried that.

gray citrus
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VRChat is one of the biggest reasons for people getting VR besides games like Beat Saber so not surprising.

gilded helm
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there used to be a 70k poly limit

indigo fern
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There used to be a 20k limit

crystal fossil
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And then they decided people would prefer to have more control than that. People rioted.

olive hull
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i thought 70k was the current

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what is it right now?

gilded helm
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you can have like 400k+

crystal fossil
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It use to be 20k, but people would still get around limits, regardless.

gilded helm
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but i dont know why they limited the polygons out of everything

indigo fern
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70k is the highest before you get very poor automatically, you can upload as much

abstract nymph
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Bruh lol I like having a lot of fun but I rather have a non laggy or cancerous experience

olive hull
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Oh jesus christ.

crystal fossil
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There's no real limit now.

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But safety settings loom.

gilded helm
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I wonder how VRChat would be running well on multiple cores

lunar cedar
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The limits are all on the clients instead of the SDK now

crystal fossil
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if you don't want to be blocked automatically by people that actually use safety settings, you need to stay under certain thresholds of perf.

gray citrus
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Think I'm gonna start setting up my vr to play in a bit.

gilded helm
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Everyone has very poor anyway

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so nobody uses perf settings

covert blade
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My avatar is vrcPerfGood

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And that isn't true

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Though in low populated instances there's no real need for perf blocking

crystal fossil
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There's no limits unless you use audiosources, @lunar cedar

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Unless you mean in beta.

gilded helm
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i once put my min on "poor"

lunar cedar
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I almost always use perf setting and I know many that turn it on when world hopping to pubs

olive hull
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I made a perfect avatar, but the thing is it looked okay

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or i uploaded one

gilded helm
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Literally nobody loaded

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Is it just me or are safety settings fucking broken

lunar cedar
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Perf blocking is what I'm referring to by in the client instead of the SDK

indigo fern
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Probably just you

crystal fossil
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Ahh.

gilded helm
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I have truster user's avatars on "On"

crystal fossil
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That's by choice, yes.

covert blade
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There are rare cases where safety settings may not apply when the avatars are still loading or in very rare cases when people switch avatars

gilded helm
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but game still doesn't load anyone until I turn it off and on again

crystal fossil
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Servers bug out sometimes.

covert blade
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I know it always fucks up at the Community Meetups when I change while everyone's loading

gilded helm
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it happens in every world

covert blade
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Never had that

lunar cedar
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The only thing I don't like about perf blocking is you donwload and load the avatar first then it gets blocked.

indigo fern
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You're properly scuffed then

crystal fossil
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I hadn't heard that.

gilded helm
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I swear I hate that there is no rejoin instance when you crash

lunar cedar
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So you still get the intial loading lag when joining a large instance

crystal fossil
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If it's downloading anything, it's the bot. I know abuses that can insta-crash. I doubt it'll load the actual avatar.

covert blade
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"Recent" should include the instance you've been in, yeah

crystal fossil
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It might be the world load or IK initializing.

covert blade
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But odds are high that you already had friends in that instance and you can quickly rejoin

indigo fern
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I mean, there are cases where people said it loads the crash avatar for a split second and they die

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Or they hear intro music even tho it was blocked

gilded helm
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Recent only tells you the world though, no?

covert blade
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Intro music is scuffed, yeah

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@gilded helm That's why I said it should, not that it does

crystal fossil
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I usually check my instance number when I load in.

lunar cedar
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It never gets as far as instantiating the avatar for a crash to occur

gilded helm
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"It should" is the classic VRChat sentence

covert blade
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Hearing music even though I turned it off is honestly annoying

crystal fossil
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Intro music is cursed anyway. It shouldn't exist. All the annoying ones ruined all the subtle ones.

lunar cedar
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But it does do something when it reaches 100% that lags a little bit

gray citrus
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I need a new vive...I hate doing this stupid fix every time I wanna play

gilded helm
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"blank has enterered the room" drop hits

abstract nymph
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?

gilded helm
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actual cancer

lunar cedar
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I'm running at 98% CPU load in many cases so that little bit can be enough to freeze up the game.

indigo fern
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At least we see less of the screenspace text for those dumb intro anims

olive hull
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wait tf? how?
98%?

covert blade
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Tbh I usually insta block people who use stuff like that

crystal fossil
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VRC is very CPU heavy right now.

olive hull
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Really?

covert blade
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The only exception I found so far was the intro animation of the Zelda avatar, because it doesn't mess with your screen

crystal fossil
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Also, yes. I block intro music people.

covert blade
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And it fits the character

abstract nymph
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Wait so I should put my laptop in creator mode to increase CPU performance

crystal fossil
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Exactly. That's the only one I could think of. The Zelda avatar.

lunar cedar
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Windows VBS overhead and Microsoft's latest body tracking is heavy.

covert blade
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But 99% of all people just have some cringy voice over or loud ass music with screen space effects that just distort everything

crystal fossil
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Because it's not trying to be annoying.

gray citrus
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That's why I wanna upgrade my processor Saigo

indigo fern
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I think the only intro sound I use is for a dead by daylight avatar, the sound of the rounds start

olive hull
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Thats a fact, theres this one model i saw recently where the model is like really red but also dark

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It has some rap music and it distorts your screen

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It has some facemask thats like an evil grin too, very annoying

covert blade
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There's also SAO avatars that have the classic SAO spawn in sound and effect, but that's fine too because it fits the character, is short, doesn't mess with your screen

indigo fern
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Lmao, remember when crashers always had those gas masks

gray citrus
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Yeah I actually like avatars like that

covert blade
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But I'll never get those people with loud spawn in music and screen space stuff on their own avatar

gray citrus
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It's not over the top

covert blade
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Like, why

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It literally just exists to bother everyone when they join in

gray citrus
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Because it's the only way they can get attention.

lunar cedar
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Sasha Mason has joined the lobby

indigo fern
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They're letting you know to block them when they join, they're doing you a favor

covert blade
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I didnt know people want negative attention

crystal fossil
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BFFFBFFF

gray citrus
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You'd be surprised.

crystal fossil
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^ Sasha's bassy bgm.

olive hull
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Negative attention is the worst attention.

lunar cedar
covert blade
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It's not doing me a favor because it requires me to walk around, hide and unhide people to see who's doing something obnoxious

gray citrus
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Some people just want a reaction. They don't care if it's a bad one

covert blade
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They wont really get one from me tho

indigo fern
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Plenty of people want negative attention, that's why that stupid ass phrase exists, "all attention is good attention"

covert blade
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I just quietly block them vrcAevSip

abstract nymph
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I have 2 avatars that do something when I switch to them. My cloud avatar plays the start of final fantasy and my dark magician girl says “I summon Dark Magician Girl” ._.

covert blade
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.-.

crystal fossil
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If only it didn't take as long to reach nuisance rank. 😏

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Then I wouldn't have to worry about blocking them.

indigo fern
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Man, I wish

covert blade
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Personally I just generally dislike spawn in stuff. There's rare cases where I accept it on others but personally, I don't want stuff to happen just from me switching into them

indigo fern
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Most nuisances are those mic spammers tho, so at least they're getting those

abstract nymph
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Wait is there a way to tell if someone blocked you

covert blade
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I only want it to happen when I specifically use a gesture to make it happen

crystal fossil
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I generally don't do anything worthy of a block unless I have a rare occasion where I debate with someone.

covert blade
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Yup

abstract nymph
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I’ll sometimes switch to annoying avatar for a few seconds just for like a “hahah funny avatar” and then switch back

indigo fern
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Blocking because of debate lmao, then you win the debate ez

gray citrus
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That's how I get blocked on Facebook lmao

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Some people get so mad they literally message me to tell me it and THEN block me so I can't reply

covert blade
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I try to make it a habit of only switching to potentially annoying avatars when I'm amongst friends

olive hull
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@abstract nymph I do that too tbh

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I switch to my colassol titan avatar for like a moment for funny joke then go back to being a small blue-haired thing

covert blade
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Giant avatars can be a reason to be blocked

abstract nymph
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@covert blade idk how that works

olive hull
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I don't abuse it though

abstract nymph
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Oh I have a giant avatar from breath of the wild it’s one of those big guys

crystal fossil
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Woah. I've been blocked by 8 people and one is my ex.

abstract nymph
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He has a sword and stuff

covert blade
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@abstract nymph You go to the link that is on there, copy the entire thing, go back to the site and paste it into the text box

crystal fossil
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\o/

abstract nymph
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Copy what?

covert blade
gray citrus
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The biggest avatar I have is giant DVA and that one isn't obnoxious. I actually use that one to help people get up to higher places on the map lol

covert blade
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You copy everything in here. Requires you to be logged in onto the VRChat website

crystal fossil
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In 2 years, 8 people. I think I'm fine.

lunar cedar
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Oof. Sasha, how am I supposed to represent your meme avatar without spamming?

olive hull
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Your fine.

abstract nymph
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Oh sounds like to much work I’m I a my phone rn

covert blade
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The biggest avatar I have is a 3.5m version of my own avatar

crystal fossil
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My biggest is 1000m...

covert blade
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But I have full body and can just sit down to be back at normal level

crystal fossil
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But I pull her out rarely.

covert blade
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I wanted to be reasonable with my size

crystal fossil
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It's just when I'm on big af worlds.

covert blade
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And with FBT I can still fit into most rooms

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I still want to be able to see others >_>

crystal fossil
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You should try it sometime though.

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When people are literally as small as ants. It's odd in VR.

gray citrus
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Yeah it really changes your fov

crystal fossil
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Don't even try changing back to another avatar via menu though.

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Nearly impossible.

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You'd have to use ctrl \

gray citrus
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Yeah last time I used the colossal titan I couldn't change out of it

covert blade
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It's hard, but possible

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I usually have the problem with my 20cm avatar

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Can't scroll through the menu so I have to switch to something else before I can switch to what I want to switch into

olive hull
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The colossal titan is easy to change out of

crystal fossil
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Oh. I've blocked 32 people.

gray citrus
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eh I got rid of it

olive hull
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I just steal someones avatar then go back to my original

crystal fossil
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I think I'm pretty tolerant.

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¯_(ツ)_/¯

olive hull
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hm

crystal fossil
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I generally only block people I know are trying to crash me.

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Or like, those mass adders from earlier.

covert blade
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I have 13 blocks, and only a few of them were because the person was behaving in a bad way other than having an annoying as hell avatar or cheating

olive hull
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8/32 = 0.25

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Your 25% tolerable

crystal fossil
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Lmao

olive hull
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lmao

gray citrus
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Alright got my vr set up. Anyone wanna hop in game?

crystal fossil
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Now I wanna know my exact start date.

faint skiff
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@gray citrus That DVA one definitely is obnoxious. Most massive avatars are annoying to people in VR. I just immediately block anyone using that or the harpy one these days in places like the Pug or Black Cat.

abstract nymph
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Wow I’ve actually been blocked or hidden by some people

covert blade
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Pretty much all the blocks I have are just random as hell

rigid crescent
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damn blocking a harpy

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wait which one

covert blade
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The one with the seats

rigid crescent
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Gearbell or Nenon?

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ahh

covert blade
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Nah not Gearbell, the massive one. Dunno if Gearbell made any large ones

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@faint skiff But my 3.5m avatar is fine right?

olive hull
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wait how do i see who blocked me or something

covert blade
lunar cedar
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Just ctrl-f block on the playermoderated link

covert blade
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Not really

olive hull
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JSON string?

covert blade
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There's literally a website you can paste all your stuff into and it'll list all people who blocked, muted and hid you

lunar cedar
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Same can be done the chrome inspector by just previewing the network request. Nice pretty formated JSON.

rigid crescent
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i have 62 blocks

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which definitely isnt right. either the list stops tracking every few months or it just unblocks thme

crystal fossil
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It's still annoying to read through the JSON. The site organizes it.

covert blade
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^

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You only ever need to read through the JSON if you want the user ID

lunar cedar
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The preview tab formats it

gilded helm
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just checked mine

crystal fossil
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Tell me how.

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Right now. Do it.

gilded helm
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got muted by 3 ppl yesterday lmao

covert blade
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oof

lunar cedar
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Mic, if you're looking at moderated that's people blocking you. moderations is the blocks you've done

olive hull
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how do i check mine tho.

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I don't understand this.

gilded helm
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was playing some loli metal yesterday

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i guess people didnt like that lmao

covert blade
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@olive hull You follow the link on the website, copy everything, go back to the site I linked you and paste it into the white text box

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Why does this require an explanation

indigo fern
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Feels like they purged some blocks, because I definitely remember more

covert blade
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I know some people who had blocked me who randomly unblocked me

indigo fern
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In both me blocking and me being blocked

covert blade
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Hmm

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I think all the blocks I've done are still there

abstract nymph
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I had to block someone because I said “your avatar is creepy I don’t like it” and they followed me

gilded helm
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can't be vrchat if you're not toxic to at least some people

rigid crescent
#

"wear real clothes" what does that even mean

gilded helm
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@rigid crescent they mean real clothes

rigid crescent
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....what?

abstract nymph
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I saw a giant naked anime avatar and you could sit@in the boobs, hands and stuff