#vrchat-general-2
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This is obviously biased because I have VR, but I'd rather play desktop than on a quest lol
I’m not sure where I land on that. I also really dislike Quest/Oculus because of Facebook
I don’t know if I should save up (which will probably take forever)or get a quest but have to deal with all the limits
geuss I’ll decide after Christmas
Thanks guys
Some people are satisfied with the Quest. And yeah, it’s not a decision to rush if you don’t have a lot of disposable income
I paid about $3k for my PC
Dang
Sadly many are biased by the stuff they know and would have to "miss out on"cuss of the friend base and experience they already build.
But you need to completely look at it from a different perspective.
I would definitely ask the Quest community about their experience - it might be more helpful 😅
Yes. 
I don’t know why it so hard to transfer games and avatars to quest. Is there like a long process creators have to go through?
the quest isn't very powerfull
especially conent need's to be more strict to fit the limited hardware capability and compatibility
😱
Same
I’ll be stuck in purgatory trying to decide
But I’ll stop talking about this and let y’all have normal chats about this wonderful game
Merry Christmas and goodnight
It's funny, short of Quest users creating Quest content, which I'm guessing many don't, there's no actual way for PC users to even test our content on the Quest if we decided to make it 🙂
So even if I felt like it, I can't test it to begin with~
Im usually going to a quest world like the black cat and nicely ask a quest user if they can see me properl and if there are any oddities
And most are happily helping 
🙂 I know that's an option but it shouldn't be the only option
I wonder why though, would getting the client to work on PC really be that time consuming?
What is sleep?
lemme quickly google.

Also.. who are you to say that 
you're literally form the same country as me 
Sleep more like nosleep
Sorry to bother y’all but what is the minimum requirement of ram for a laptop to have to run a oculus
8gb is like bare minimum
That is why I know your time so well
Thanks
but ram is the smalles of your concerns with a laptop
you ideally want 16gb as a minimum
Bare minimum
☹️
I ain’t asking for much
I just want a pc
I’ll take 8
Wait what’s my biggest concern with a laptop
Lack of upgrade options, downclocked CPU, potential overheating problems
I’m beginning to lose hope
I don’t think I can find a cheap vr ready laptop without having a major down side
Wish me luck ig
You probably can't, honestly.
Why do you want a VR laptop anyways?
Like I mentioned before, tech = expensive, small tech = more expensive.
If you had a PC and Laptop with the exact same (or as close as you can get) specs, it'll cost significantly more for the Laptop
Could probs just get a laptop for whatever he needs to do while mobile and get a desktop PC for VR
Probs cheaper than your all-in-one laptop solution
Again why do you need a laptop

Well you said that 
Suppose that's true
You didn't, you're just being weird
"Why do you want a laptop" is a pretty simple question...
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Wow they got me the role fast thanks mods 👍
It's not just more expensive but AFAIK the CPU is underclocked too due to the problem of overheating
Here's what I would do: Build a desktop PC for your PC games and VR and stuff, and then get a cheaper laptop that can do the things you'd want to do on-the-go
I don’t know how to build a desktop
There's website that'll build them for you. Will cost ya a bit of extra money but you can just click together your PC and have it being built for you
In fact, that's how I did it because I'm lazy >_>
What’s the website
The specific German one I used doesn't exist anymore
Bruh
Hey, before i try going to the support channel i thought id ask this in general first cuz it might be an ez question to solve: when i go into a lobby, most avatars i see are the default robots with the avatar thumbnail on its chest. Does anyone know how to fix that?
Do you use the oculus quest?
Yes
Sadly most of these people dont have a quest ready version of their avatar then 😦
You can open the menue and see if some of the robots do have a quest symbol
if they have you can manually unhide them, just keep a bit of an eye on your performance.
Oh ok so its not a client side thing then, thank you
Well
If the avatar isn't Quest compatible you cannot see it no matter what
Some of these avatars might be quest compatible but performance blocked = look very similar
Yeah i was just wondering if it was something i had to toggle in settings or not, also whats performance blocked?
When an avatar's performance stats are too high
;__;
Ok like animations and what not
Tommorow im opening my laptop its new
R u momochi from twin stars
Most of the other stats don't block the avatar entirely
If anyone would like too help me navigate customing my own avatar feel free to pm me
@north violet. Who...?
I finished an anime called twin star exorcists recently and one of the people in it was called momochi
Nice
Fellas, I wanna slap an audio source onto my hand, but I can't seem to have good settings for it so it only can be heard when you're headpatting.
I can always hear it from farther then my hand.
Did you do an email or did you use the contact form?
https://help.vrchat.com/new Should use this instead
Yeah, use this
Why do they not check support email?
¯_(ツ)_/¯
Not really because creating a proper ticket is better than just sending emails
I'll try the form
But everything I foun said send a email
You think they would update the support documentation
how do i not have social anxiety in vrchat like i do in real life
Tbh I still have social anxiety
Also the reason for that is probably because you're talking to an avatar and not a physical person
wait thats not what i meant

i was saying i still have social anxiety in vrchat and was wondering how to not have it
Oooooooh
Well it's quite easy:
- Realize this is a game and there's barely any consequences for messing up
- Realize that the people around you usually want to do the same thing that you try to do
What can help is you are in a smaller world that isn't super crowded
Try it with fewer people and if it works out, you can feel more confident in larger worlds.
Also, it helps to have friends with you because that way you have someone around who you do feel comfortable with
dont have any friends with vr lol
VRChat doesnt need VR
i wish they did tho
And ingame friends work too
hmmmmmm
Even in 40+ player Community Meetups I'll do perfectly fine for as long as I do have a few friends there who I can always go to
theres always like a few separate social circles when i join a world and i dont know how to join one thats already talking
That's why you should look for instances with fewer people
I just hop in if it's something I wanna be a part of :3
i mean the circles usually only have like 3 or 4 ppl but i still feel uncomfortable joining one
Yeah though at least in my experience, odds are high they're talking about something that doesn't interest me or where I have nothing to say about
The best way to overcome that is to just do it
as in, just join a circle even if theyre talking about something you dont care about?
It's the same deal with me getting in touch with people: I just do it. If it doesn't work, whatever I'll try it again on a different person. Ingame's the same deal, you just join an instance, see what's going on, see if there's anything happening that interests you and if not you go to the next instance until you find one with people that you like
looks around for 20 minutes in different servers
It be like that sometimes, yeah
One time pretty much none of my friends were available and so I did just that and actually found one person that I had a nice chat with
Tbh that whole group was pretty nice but due to time I wasn't able to stick around
aw rip
Or alternatively, since you are already in this Discord, you may also be able to make a few friends here and then meet them ingame
Once you actually have people to join it'll be a lot easier
I actually dunno how I survived being a visitor tbh
that might work, but if I fail at it then my discord friends wont wanna be friends anymore
And if you never try then that gives you the same result
wait shoot sidenote why cant i use emotes from other servers here?
There's a reason I'm not afraid to get in touch with people who might have no idea who I am
Or me inviting basically my entire friends list into the instance, or me sending join requests because like I care if you're in private
Global Emotes only work in #general-media unless you boost the server
thats a really annoying incentive to boost
i mean it used to not even be an option lol
¯_(ツ)_/¯
makes sense if you really want boosts tho
Then be like me who has no Nitro and no access to any global emotes
what
how do you not have emotes
commission some emotes they're not too expensive~
Because I don't have Nitro and I'm not part of any Global Emotes servers
then you can have avatar-specific versions of global emotes
@vocal shard Anyhow, the best way to go about it is to just try. You'd be honestly surprised how friendly some of these people are
i mean i can dm you links to some global emote servers if you want any
Hmm no
i wanna try so hard but at the same time im like
ok so i was gonna send an emote of an anxiety inkling but forgot so uhh O_O I'll try harder next time for sure tho, thx for the tip
I mean it's literally what I'm doing.
Also if you do find someone who seems nice and you want to increase your chances on actually friending them, ask them first
People seem to appreciate if you ask them instead of just going for it
oh lol that makes sense
Sooo yeah, that's about it
just do it - nikes
Pretty much
And if it doesnt work you go to the next person and try again
You keep doing it until it works. Also helps to have a good way to approach people and also helps if you treat others nicely
says hey awkwardly and then shuffles awkwardly for 2 minutes
is anyone else getting randomly disconnected from Vrchat or is it just me?
i cant play
oh..
ah
but yea, i keep getting disconnected from the internet entirely whenever i play Vrchat. i've never DCed with any other game i have
hmm
ever since i got the internet cable replaced outside
but its just on vrchat
yup
yea
what vr headset?
the recalled Oculus Rift
so it might be the headset then?
No but for real, ur using steam or oculus version of vrchat?
Oculus client
my left controller drifts so much its terrible on the steam client
is it the oculus CV1 or rift S ?
cv1? its the original oculus touch controllers
hmm
just try it on steamvr , if it drifts to much check settings by controller bindings
idk why they wanted to recall it, it works just fine for me and i did try that but there were no custom configuration settings to change it with..
ok ._. it didn't put me in the game, i stayed in my home while it booted it up in VR on my desktop
i was there but wasnt
Sounds like your headset isn't hooking to the active application.
do we get udon for christmas? 😛
Nope, read #announcements .
ok q1 2020 thx qhala
2018 Unity in q1 udon soon xD
merry christmas! have this programming noodle!
anyone else keep getting disconnected
Wow vrchat lagged and now all I hear is ahahahahahahahah with a bass note of oo oo oo oo oo oo
u oke time ?
I am, but idk about my laptop
I have a newer one but it’s a work one so I don’t want to put too many games on it
Smh bad joke
sorry,
Oh thank God it stopped
No the ahahahahahah
i don't like people laughing ? 😦
No it was literally the phonetic sound “ah” repeated over and over really fast
ahh ur new in this game ?
Yeah joined yesterday
well , u need some tips for i got to trusted user
Damn hadn’t thought of that
And it just lag kicked me from the game my connection was that bad, even though I literally just restarted it XD
rippp xd
Oh God I tried to take a picture and it crashed again
I think I need more ram XD
whats every1 up to on vr chat
aint playing vrc
ain't playing vrc either
Just chilling and trying to communicate without a mic (pens are my friend here)
I have a bunch of people around so it’s more for the sake of them and others
bad voice?
No it’d be a noisy mic
noisy? xD
Like lots of background noise
No I have decent headphones, just they can be either not sensitive or really sensitive and I don’t want to spend ages fixing that in settings
xD
If there’s less people around I’ll probably talk
a
where are u from tim?
Uk
Maybe
i will show my impressive dabs
Flexing on the windows users
xD
hello happy man
Oh hi
ohhello
Off for Christmas Eve, but working Christmas morning and Boxing Day morning 😣
Merru Christmas everyone
Merry Christmas
Merry christmas you adorable fluuufs
Break me
No
Merry christmas eve
@muted badge i love ur pfp so much 
It's Padoru
tbh I like any pfp as long as the majority of the colors are blue or blue-ish
merry chirstmas and to all good cheer
Oh really
yeah
Why does vrchat repeat itself when it crashes? I keep hearing “friend in this vr chat” over and over
Some games do that
Haven't been doing it in a while but a lot of games in the past would crash with a short sound loop of whatever it was playing
Sometimes it’s entertaining, sometimes it’s annoying as hell
You ran out of RAM, that's when it used to happen for me.
Upgraded to 32GB, no more crashes.
Oh no
Certainly makes the game interesting...
Merry Christmas 🎄🎅
And to you
cute pfp confirmed
Merry christmas folks 🎄🎁
Merry xmas
Happy Christmas merry new year
im finna wake up tommorow and it finna be chrimsamst
merry chisimis
and to you as well @dim bobcat
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just wondering something... say someone was trash talking to someone behind a persons face there was two of them that were and you go and try to figure otu the situation and then the two of them come at you and actually make fun of you calling all sorts of words slurs etc
I keep falling when entering rooms in drinking night, why?
Also, if you record and they say something racist etc you can report them
And make a youtube video
was it fair for me to block them and to call them out on their stuff and then they try to cover up their story and such ... i dont do that kind of thing
yes
i have on my blocked list now
you block for w/e reason you like
But in seriousness, dont associate with them
yep i totally get that thank you 🙂 your cool in my books
Hello drama nation im your host killer keeemstarrr lets get roiiiighhhhht intothenewssss
Eventually they will turn on each other and it will be an interesting show
right on it @vale wave keemstar is mint
:3
Is there anyway I can get the 2018 hub world map for vrchat ?
now we just need a krampus avatar
Merry Christmas
Does anyone happen to know what happened to that "Find Your Friend" world with the billboarded picture taking game? I can't even remember the name of it right now but I sort of wanted to check it out again...
@twilit fiber it’s functionally the same, but technically 1GB of memory is 1024MB. You can’t get 1000MB of memory (unless we get real weird with it...)
It’s also a fun quirk of hard drives - manufacturers advertise with 1GB = 1,000MB, but the system actually reads it as well 1GB=1,024MB, which is why it always appears smaller than advertised
marry xmas 
I dont wanna marry xmas
I'd love to marry xmas
Happy holiday
merry new year
merry is with me and holly and the reindeer are rocking the town tonight santa babay!!!
How do you prone with vr without full body tracking
@vocal shard your face looks at my soul😬
put your head real real close to the ground
Merry Christmas eve!

Merry Christmas @thorny idol
thx
Merry Christmas Eve everyone!

Merry Christmas Eve everyone! 🙂
I need help
Avatar customizing
Im a newbie to it and i wanna customize a model but i dont know how and youtube videos arnt helping at all @luna
@vocal shard
It all depends what you want to do, and then youd have to learn blender 2.8 ect
Like what kind of things do you want to do?
I want to put my model into blender
What files do you have?
Anyone know easiest way to make custom avatar
^Same

thing learned today: squid is never safe
how are we mocking squid with a cat
It's squid's emoji
Merry Christmas
christmas soon.
Epic holiday dab
skrrt skrrt hit the snow
Need more snow to yeet sum snowballs
we have literally no snow here 
same
im goingg to beat the earth (or god from my father's perspective) and demand snow for florida
Hi, this Event from Shaheena in the Event channel is for 2018. Who ever made the Link for the Google Calender event should fix it.
What's wrong with it :0
Well if you click it it creates a mark in your calender for 2018 , it's 2019 now that's wrong with it.
Can someone tell me if this cpu can handle vr?
What cpu
lol
@fossil root it is time.
It is time
Also VR is more gpu dependant than cpu
the amd fx can push vrchat hard...but only if you put in a lot of work into optimizing your OS
research some - PFFT upgrade that gpu right now dear god
research some windows 10 optimization tips
Dang
It runs PUBG so yes it can as long as you have Video Card that can run VR
Hello
takes the walk of shame
it is I, the FX god
You have entered heaven. Enjoy your Christmas miracle.
A list of secret ninja tips shall enter your DMs within a few hours
god bless the fx god...speaking of which
Isn't VRChat intensive on both PGU and CPU though 🤔
it is
VRChat
and "it runs PUBG" or "it runs X game" doesn't mean anything
I said VR in general

i dont know why people try to use that as a metric for how good a PC is
It does PUBG is on Unreal 4 engine with modern graphics, if you have 1060 - 1070 nVidia it should have no problems with VRcaht
lol
but he meant
Being able to run modern games is not the same as running a VR game with entirely user-created content on Unity
He is only asking about a CPU not entire PC Plenty of CPUs can support a PC that is VR capable
As much as it might make sense in your head, you don't have VR (or don't seem like you do) so you're not considering any other factors
@sand kayak GTX 1080 here and I pretty much always have problems in VRChat
Welcome to unoptimized Unity content
VRChat is an entirely different beast
Definitely would run though
I do have VR I am using other systems I am simply saying that CPU he asked about will probably work with VR just as most CPUs will. VRchat has many problems do not blame them on the Hardware
Mic is right about the vr vs nonvr comparison tho
Find where we blamed it on the hardware. (Spoiler: You won't)

We're saying that he'll have trouble running VRC with the hardware
Gaah I'm outta coffee brb
Based on what do you think that AMD FX-8320 will not run VR games?
It will
"VR Games" and "VRChat" are entirely different stories.
Beat Saber and other games like that will probably be fine
But when it comes to VRChat which is entirely userbased content that is more often than not unoptimized, you run into other issues
Oh dear god enlighten me how is VRchat much more complex then any other VR game. It runs on an android phone
Oh lord
It runs terrible on said android phone

Most worlds don't even work
He's ignorant. Place your bets, will he double down after he's been corrected?
It is extremely cut down on Android and it still runs trash there
My money is on yes.
vrc just runs terrible in general because of community content
I'll make that bet too
VRChat uses an entirely different client to run on the Quest, and it's extremely dumbed down and stripped of features.
If you think VRChat runs on Quest (without the link) like it does on PC, the conversation is basically over because it's clear you have no clue what you're talking about
Ok you win VRchat is the hardest game to run on PC 🙂 You probably have not played any real games anyways
...
Ah, looks like the pot's mine. It's the double down.

vr games are considerably budgeted and maintained by professionals who keep an insane eye of scrutiny on their performance and resource budgets such as triangle and material counts
Good god what am I witnessing?
VRChat runs bad in general. Theres I higher bar set for hardware because of how bad it is lol
actually its mainly triangle and material counts along with lighting
An idiot in their natural habitat: Arguing against someone who's actually informed about the game
Several people are typing
but 99% of vrc users are not professionals
All you had to do was say "Ah, I misunderstood. My mistake."
But Quest Client is different from PC Client, that alone shatters your "well it works on android" argument
It seems you guys are defending this game by saying others can't play it? Is that it?
LOL
so often even incredibly shitty optimization sins are excecuted on the daily, and as a result, vrchat 100% runs about twice as bad as the average VR game, because you can never predict
. . .
Can you locate the post where we said that?
okay yeah i was trying to teach you something interesting and cool
I like cookies
I'll paypal you 20 dollars if you can.
ill leave you to everyone else i guess
Hover over the post, hit the 3 horizontal dots, and hit "copy link" and paste it
Again, no one is saying he "can't play it" we're trying to warn him against getting VR without the proper setup when his goal is to mainly play VRC
The original poster is long gone, don't even know what GPU he intended to use pointless discussion.
We're trying to prevent them from wasting money and being disappointed with what they get.
But your comment about the Quest and VRChat running on it and not being intensive are very indicative of your knowledge
The main point is VRChat is more CPU intensive than GPU
You don't know what you're talking about and it's fine, but don't act like you have all the answers.
You really think that he will buy that old CPU now? He probably has that installed now.
nvm keep going guys
goodnighty
Night
No, we think they're confused as to what specs they need exactly because people conflate other VR games (or non VR games) to VRChat
Goodnight 🍪 😴
if youre heated just go check vanilla nekos pics
byeeee
VRChat runs poorly on the Quest despite it being a separate client with stripped down features. Because all content is user-created and typically unoptimized, in order to not constantly dip below 45FPS, you need more than you might think in terms of power for both CPU and GPU
Should be good
Yeah, I used a 3gb 1060 for over a year
and the 16 gigs of ram of course
Oh, is it a prebuilt?
And the processor looks promising
link?
Anyhow I'll be headin' off for now
Good night y'all, and Merry Christmas ^-^
Because it on offer up 😂
later 👌
You don’t mind that it’s on offer up?
i dont even know what that is
Can it handle vr?
yes it can
Yes
You can lower VRChat's settings too to help performance
is it the 1060 3GB or 6?
looks like the 3GB
I used that as well. It's definitely doable either way tho
Dude I experienced 500% supersampling. It was alone in my homeworld, but still
Theres a channel for that
no there's not <@&397642795457970181>
Thought there was a self promo channel?
There is #shameless-self-promotion
that's for actual VRC content
these channel names really dont make you feel good for it huh
Self promo channels are pretty the least likely to be clicked ngl ^
definitely
If it's vrc related it can go in #shameless-self-promotion
BRO
Brother
Instead of having 257 dollars for Christmas
I have 400
So I’m probably going to check for a better pc
Build one bro
I don’t know how
There's tons of guides
And it's cheaper to do it yourself
You can learn how to do it from YouTube videos but you need to ask people about parts
and make sure they're compatible
Guys I found something else and was wondering if you could look at the specs?
Sorry for all this computer talk I just really want one and want to make sure it’s vr ready
Link doesn't open for me
Dang
Guess it doesn’t work
gpu says it’s a Sapphire Nitro RX 470 4GB Graphics Card
I thinks that’s good?
The 470 is throwing me off
Bit of a bad time is seems as chat is dead
And it's 4:40 am so i need sleep as well
@twilit fiber That is basically min spec
Should use steam vr ready to test if it’s running well
But it is vr ready and better than a 1050ti which is vr ready
The other one you were looking at was a 1060? @twilit fiber
I'd go with the GTX 1060 over the RX470
It does perform better than 470, cause of the vram it has more of it
Vram isn't everything. The GTX 1060 is still a faster card
Same as a 1050ti has more vram than a 3gb 1060, but the 1060 will noticably out perform it
Oh yes lol
when comes the vrc unity update comes out?
so i didnt realize this but i can use my arcade fighting stick to move around in the vrc
what channel would I ask if someone can pull this avatar https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G9aLOZXCMAs for me and recolor and upload it? I'll pay of course XD
If it has to do with avatars and paying I would recommend askin on the vrc traders discord that you can find somewhere at the top of
Anyone from australia know where to buy the rift s
friends lists messing up again not only me many others same thing any reason why???
Avatar not loading for me and friends
ye servers r dying
ye servers are dead
Oh well
rip in pieces
Would make sense seem people like to target when no one is working on holiday
merry christmas lol
servers die on christmas, rip lol
Merry chrysler
happy crismin
happy crimson
Happy Critmas
haypy chixnshms
!online
There are 6246 users in VRChat currently
!online
There are 6300 users in VRChat currently
Might be saving up for a quest now 👀
Nobody's avatars are loading in for me including my own
Uh oh quest user alarm
Hey it’s cheap and runs itself ¯_(ツ)_/¯
turn that fuckin alarm off, i dont see a problem
There really aren't that many people on right now, what's with the network issues?
same
Could be user end, my world hub has looked like a bouncy castle so far (restarts haven’t fixed this)
i keep timing out
Its your faulth

Solution: stop playing (jk I’d be on rn if I wasn’t doing something else)
Probs a lot of the peeps are trying out their Vr headsets
Mm good point
Oh
Nah, we had 12000 or so on Fridays normally and it's fine. There shouldn't be connection issues with this few on.
New users on all at once, and probably alot of quest users
Doesn't matter if they're new or not and Quest users will be pulling less bandwidth than normal VR or desktop users.
!online
There are 7430 users in VRChat currently
so anyone else have issues loading VR Chat?
I dont
game just shows a blank black screen when I try to load into my home world
I have issues going on vrchat cuz celeb xmas xd
I probably won't be on vrchat for a while cuz of Xmas, but I know I won't be getting vr 
Are video players still not working
Awww i would fight ur fam "ITS VR OR NOTHING"
Nice
Nice
Noice
°w° Merry Christmas ^w^
merry winner winner turkey dinner
I prefer chicken
!online
There are 9310 users in VRChat currently
The answer is nope
They are different versions
It should not take too long to change but you still will have to do ot
When you switch between builds, steam will install the correct files needed. They're pretty small so it should take you just around a minute to swap over.
Everything stays as is, but be warned that only the ones on the same build will be able to see you and vice versa.
Is 8Gb of ram good for vr?
good no
8 is like bare functional minimum with propably quickly noticeable bottlenecks
Luckily RAM is neither overly expensive nor very hard to replace
It depends. If you're me 8gb will be enough
what. I'm just telling the truth... I never crashed because of ram
Can't send pics for some reason but I got the Rift S
Just upload it somewhere and post the link here
Oh yeah lol
post it in #general-media
Doesn't allow image uploads either
because there the preview can be shown inside discord
preview is unnessesary, upload to any image host and share the link here
Can't wait for the first thing I do with VR to be being a cute anime girl on VR chat
.-.
depends on what you want
brand and rgb too
@twilit fiber just go with Corsair Vengeance
Ok
@twilit fiber and get something greater than or equal to 3000mhz
Probably cost anywhere from 70-100$depending on rgb, mhz
I mean as long as ur motherboard supports ddr4 that’s good
thats a pretty gud deal
Same link but much shorter
Yeah 65$ isn’t bad
Just in time for ddr6
my friends got new mobos and new ddr4 ram so I can begg them to give me some of their old ddr3 ram
Same to u
Heya! I was wondering if someone could help me out. I'm looking for one of two things; a world, or it's creator. It was a train world, that drove along what was basically an empty area, with the occasional tunnel, and other trains passing by. It had really relaxing music, a chill atmosphere, and a bunch of characters riding on the train. There was a box of text in the back talking about how those avatars were projects that were never able to be finished.
I can't find this world in my favorites, and I suspect it might be gone, but if anyone has a link to it, knows the creator, or is the creator, please message me! I've missed this world a lot, as it was the perfect place to sleep in VR...
Hmm damn, do you remember the name? Or parts of the name?
I know a few train worlds but I dunno if I know that one
I don't remember the name... that's the rough part. My memory is super terrible >~<
That's the thing, I haven't been there in a while, because I've been unable to find it
If the world is gone then it won't show up at all anymore
That's why I did ask if someone knew the creator of it maybe, so I can talk to them
Have you not favorited it?
I have, but the favorite is either lost, or the world itself is gone. I wouldn't be surprised if it got lost during the move to Playlists
Ouch
Well given that I can not go in VRChat due to some crashing problems I’ll just say it here, hope you guys/girls have a great Christmas! 😄
It's my birthday
Well oh snap merry Christmas and Happy Birthday @severe shell!
Thanks @broken sparrow
Np @severe shell
Merry Christmas to you @broken sparrow
Thanks @severe shell
Your welcome @broken sparrow
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Does anyone still get black screens every now and then? It happens whenever I join a game, then it gives me the error 'your connection to vrchat timed out', or whatever.
After like 3 minutes of waiting, it connects to the lobby.
So damn obnoxious
Hiya, is there a way to get 32 players servers?
Worlds can be up to a soft cap of 40. A hard cap of 80 if people join on friends.
It's set by the author of the world.
Because it's up to the world author to decide how many people their world is designed to handle
Especially when you have a very popular world and want to keep public instances somewhat enjoyable
@mystic steeple Keep in mind that that's actually 32 if friends are joining off friends.
so i join a few black cat lobbies and for some reason i see annoying shader/audio spam but i have shaders and audio disabled for everyone but friends????
?
The listed limit is the soft limit. It can go over to double when friends join on other people.
Is that intended behavior tho?
does anyone possibly know a world that has a bigby wolf model in it? I would make one but I’m not too far into the series and I’m not sure what to add to it
@strange wagon Maybe it was a friend, maybe it was someone who's avatar you have shown
definetly not a friend
and i hide stuff like this usually.
it's basically shaders and music just to annoy people
in some lobbies when i joined i saw like 2 loading bars aswell. but it wasn't a person i could click on
definetly moving around and such
assuming it's modded client bs again
i said it a few days ago but public worlds are still in a bad state
A mod that can force show avatars to others 🤔
maybe
i didn't really research on malicious shit like that
i myself like public world hopping. meeting new people. listening to conversations
but lately it's just outrageous
#full-body-tracking @vocal shard
and this issue is pretty much present ever since i joined vrc, it's just been ups and downs with how the ppl that do it feel
oh thxs
not really sure what to do or say about it
@covert blade Yes, it's intended behaviour.
I see
The idea is that it allows more "relevant" people rather than randoms.
I see
best christmas present: i got added by the Mimino model creator 😎

@vocal shard you know about this problem? does the vrc team know too? is there anything that'll be done in the unity update maybe? or maybe it'll get worse
🤔
O.O
Uh?... What? I just woke up...
I'm also not a game mod and have no affiliation with the actual develpment of the game. Just a volunteer discord chat mod
oh
odds are if there's a problem they already know by now though
especially since trust system issues have been around as long as the trust system
i've been playing for almost 2 years now and it has always been a big issue. it's only a degree of how often it happens to you
@vocal shard Good morning ^-^
but public worlds really arent in that bad of a state, most of it just seems to be like widespread propoganda, like the community jsut keeps echoing things that arent really true
i'm just speaking from my perspective what i see
Public worlds can be hit or miss sometimes, though usually it seems relatively okay
I suppose the world and time of day matter too
Hit or miss, but more often than not you'll be fine with animations off for non-friends
first world i joined today for example i already saw 2 invisible people at the spawn. and then the shader and audio spam began when i have them disabled
Spawn animations can't be turned off for whatever reason
join the next one, someone kicking people from the lobby
I'm usually fine with safety off entirely
i feel like i'm a magnet to those people
Spawn audio seems to always play no matter what. I could literally hide and unhide someone and it would start playing again
yea i have shaders, particles and audio off only because of people like this
Luckily it makes them easy to report if it's something unsavory
Turn off animations
Eh, I can handle a launch animation so there's no reason for me to turn off all that and make the game look like crap
they were just invisible. i could see them moving with the loading bar. but i couldn't click on them
That's 99% of all problems
They max out at liek 10 seconds anyway
I don't know. I don't run into anything like that often. I have animations disabled, and I used to have the old particle limiter set, but I don't know of that still carried over
OH are you talking about the floating loading bar?
the problem with disabling custom animations is you also disable facial gestures
Fairly sure that's just a bug, it's a desynced bar
And the problem with disabling shaders is that avatars may render incorrectly
Your point?
i thought so too until i saw the shaders and audio
Face gestures aren't disabled with disabling animations
They are
They are on my avatar
O.O
it literally disables the custom override
At least the stuff happening in the eyes
Hmm
People can't see that anymore
you blink, thats about it
People probably can't see the overridden hand gestures either
It's much easier to show someone manually after a minute of talking (which is usually all it takes) than to have to deal with a trash looking game because of no shaders though
But usually I run around with safety off and it's fine
so you're completely fine by just disabling shaders tbh. i disable audio because half the audio being played in public are just annoyances
and well particles
Interesting... Maybe I just never noticed since I friend almost everyone who wants to talk to me 
I've seen avatars being completely broken with shaders off to the point where I had to hide them because it looked so much worse and so much stuff was visible that wasnt supposed to be there
Yup
Animations off, no problems. 90% of utter crap is triggered via an animation anyway so nuke them and it's all good.
I dont because I can't remotely unshow that avatar again
I honestly would sooner not be around non-friends than be around strangers with their shaders off lol
If I do it via safety settings I dont have to show people who might not be trustworthy
@rough pulsar then why do i hear audio when i have audio disabled for everyone tho
Anyhow, I gtg now
You'll hear a quick spawn sound if they have it, that should be about it
See y'all later
Probably because the trust system is a total mess.
that too
it would be nice if people couldn't hide from social menus
so i could atleast block them
That may just be the social API being slow as fuck
They cant lol
hey i have a quick question
I've had an acquaintance ask if I was using a client before because i swapped avatar back and forth real fast to fix my FBT and he could see my avatar suddenly despite having non-friends avatars hidden for performance
The alternate way is select anyone, then use the previous & next buttons on there to cycle through to the offending prat and block them there.
@covert blade ever heard someone but there wasn't actually someone you can click on or find in the social menus. usually people that kick/spam annoying shit
in vr chat there is an update where you walk differently, how do you change ot so your walking is walking, not the whole you walk your character
what?
this is what i mean
They always show up in social even if you can't click on them
One time I literally browsed through people to find and hide one person that was unclickable
OH you're talking about Holoport @bright dove ? If you have VR its in the settings
oh so you gotta guess who it is from the 20 people 🤔
It's not that hard when I recognize names of people standing next or in front of me
What massive worlds are you in that you can't see most of the people in the general area?
It's a minor inconvenience vs seeing trash broken shader models 24/7...
@rigid crescent ya but ive looked and there doesnt seem to be a option for that there
most of the models don't even look broken
"Holoport" is what its called
If you want to have more time doing it, hide everyone via safety settings and manually show and unshow people until you find the person causing problems
1 out of 10 at best
I mean they look like crap regardless
well ill look again but i didnt see anything that said holo port
kinda yea
hm
if i had to choose between standard shader or facial gestures 🤔
both pretty shitty options tbh
With how severely some setups fall apart without the shaders, I'd pick keeping shaders.
All models look fine and you have to click a button once in a while once you've had a short interaction with a stranger
Standard shaders are fine, but sometimes shaders fall back incorrectly
yee
Or all models look bad and you can see their broken blush and facial expressions 🤔
Half the time the facial gestures get fired off in ways totally unrelated to the current conversation.
Meanwhile I stick with safety off / manually hiding people / only using custom safety with Voice Avatar and Shader when the instance is really that bad
And I tell ya, I'm doing perfectly fine the vast majority of the time
Might also be because I hang around in F+ instances a lot
me and the people around me must just be unlucky then
And avoid worlds like Pug or Box
I just have animations & particles off for non-friends and I'm fine literally 99% of the time, even in public instances.
Yup, same here
I mean, some people also get switched into crasher avatars or get kicked by a modded client while that hasn't happened to me yet
this happened so much to me i lost count lol
Luck is a factor
With few exceptions, avatar crap is almost always triggered through animations so that's your first and best line of defence against bullshit.
guess i have no choice then
i've just been having a bad time in public worlds recently and idk what else to do but vent here 😦
kinda happens from time to time
also, recently my mirrors are broken a lot of the times. causing my fps to go down to about 15-20.
Mirrors are like that.
sometimes restarting vrc fixes it, but its hit or miss
the weird part is
this doesn't happen outside of steamvr
cause my rift S broke, got my money back so bought a vive from a friend. and now i'm waiting for the index to get back in stock to buy the headset + controllers. i saved a lot of money this way
steam overlay causes my game to lock at 15 fps a lot of the times too
yeah the oculus stuff is much better
That's some weird fucking bug with vrchat & steamvr
😦
Dropping the supersampling to .9 or .8 usually clears it up
@rigid crescent i was hating myself going from rift S to vive. cause the visual quality is so hideous. But i did it to get native full body tracking and to get cheaper base stations. but instead i got a vive which is kinda nice
oof
@rough pulsar i disabled supersampling
You can't disable it, only change it.
pretty sure i disabled it 🤔
You might be thinking of motion smoothing/reprojection
i'll try that when i get on hmm
am just waiting for index to get back in stock now
You'd still be using SteamVR tho
yea. the steam overlay thing will keep happening probably
Sadly it will, unless VRChat fix whatever they're doing that cause it.
but atleast i can't count pixels anymore and have a pea sized sweet spot
not too mention the vive is easily the most uncomfortable vr headset i've worn
Or valve fix it, which is somehow more likely. There's been quite a bit of work done on SteamVR lately.
yea a lot of updates recently 🤔
MERRY CHRISTMAS everyone.
ayee merry christmas
hi
I've not had the SteamVR 11fps issue since the last update oddly enough
ok
ok ... just discovered something that scared the sh** out of me ... if your isp gets an issue while you are in game and want to change avatar , the game tells you the avatar got deleted.
it was still happening to me today 😦
ok
@faint skiff I had it last night 🤔
What OS version, GPU & driver version are you using?
Win 10, 2080 Ti, can't tell what driver as the Nvidia program doesnt' appear to work anymore...
Latest as of like 2 weeks ago though at most
the low fps seems to be audio device related ( disable all but the one you use in device manager)
weird bug within vrchat + steamVR
It's a Unity bug specifically if I remember right.
morning @vocal shard , happy x-mass
Sometimes you can just get away with plugging in and unplugging your device if its on the front or yo ufeel like going under your desk
Hey, thank you shiro
Why would lowering supersampling to 80% or less seem to fix it then?
Most of the time anything lower than what you're currently at will 'fix' it, even if you're running at 2.0
@vocal shard Good christmas to you as well
VRChat is more CPU dependant than GPU dependant
How the hell that's connected to audio devices is just 😕
Not saying it couldn't be, just at how fucked up things are if it is related.
Valves new audio api keys are busted like crash your PC busted if you pass them bad data
So it's possible
This bug has been present for a very long time and as far as I've heard happens only with vrchat
Merry Christmas Gallium 🎉
And to you too 🎄

Dab at the end of 2019 why
unity chan is neglected because she is a default avatar in vrchat and that's kinda sad
Is she still? I thought that went out a long time ago



