#vrchat-general-2
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I mean those maps really shouldn't be the core reason to fix them. Not like anyone is EVER on them
me?
The one who just mentioned my name.
i don't, you started with the ad-hominem*
Nice rhetoric
that's good
I mean it is true, the main reason shouldn't be to make a few dead FPS maps more betterer
Those barely worked pre-network IK
@gilded helm Under social ingame there's a button to set your status
Battle Disk is the prime example. Since the day I started 've been watching those things fly straight trhough people
i was thinking primarily on the line of IK being delayed enough that it disconnects the feeling of having anothe rperson in front of you
But the only argument to invest a lot of money and time into region servers is game worlds?
While the negatives and risks we listed are:
It soft region locking users
Actually not solving it for users with bad internet
Being able to turn out worse for some users in some servers
ah there lol

I don't seem to witness that at all for any of the non-US players I interact with
@rigid crescent 60% bad hitboxes from the disks and avatars and 40% internet
which is a primary concern of vrchat. but I don't know how this is from US to US either
A few from Australia and New Zealand, lots from all over europe, tons from japan
Whats your ping sin
^^^
i just know i can feel the 56k modem sounds when i put my hand in someone's face or something
That would make it even less logical to get
on paper they sound like a good idea if you think really, really short sightedly about it
let me check the ping
Better than having 200+ ping
There's more behind it than just that
187
Would an optional P2P system be possible?
I could repeat what we just wrote above about why it would not be handy but i wont jon
Host migration isn't very fun
@frosty veldt You know where the S stands for in P2P?
Lol, remember those days in halo?
Its security c:
Yeah forgot about host migration lol (and security)
It still host migrates even in MCC
i wonder if p2p IK would be possible as a thing even when the server still manages the world state
Just try out the beta and you wont complain about the ik anymore
i remember host migration in bo2
oh, is the beta network IK that much better?
Yes
i guess i gotta try that
in an ideal world vrchat for me has almost no latency between someone moving in their room and moving on my screen
I'm assuming the beta IK, while smoother, doesn't fix the issues that NetIK added with what data is sent to others?
my guess was 200ms is still a lot of stuff, and when two EU people see each other, that will be at least 400ms of movement difference
Id say become an invetor and destory them real life technical limitations 💪
200 ping is a lot tbh
Also funfact its more then 400
of course
Servers also add delay 👌
the 400ms is just the network trip
which ocean
But the big question is
You can region lock the game (hard or soft)
Or you can have a global game like we got rn
atlantic
Ping is round trip time, so you don't add the ping of two users
all oceans
Pretty sure all them Jap and OCE people would love that jon
uhh do we use UDP or TCP here?
oce has warm weather i dont care about em
because tcp would be definitely two roundtrips, one from me to server plus confirmation, then another plus confirmation
if they have nice weather i can take better ping
well, the data can probably be used before the confirmation has arrived, so i guess
Hell, ping won't even tell what the upstream latency is, which is likely most of the proportion if you've got DOCSIS. You can't even just halve the ping.
i have no idea what yall are saying
and im not happy I will eventually have to learn what you are saying
i wonder what latency i have to google without the docsis
even right now it's 12ms
cable internet is the best we got here 😦
i remember when the biggest ISP in germany wasn't peering with google because they were too stuck up
they weren't peering with anyone unless they pay THEM
people on that ISP (it's the biggest one even haha) couldn't even watch youtube properly because they were going over de-cix or other stupid exchanges
Yes, that's what ***cast does here in America. They use their customer-base as bargaining chips
just to reach german servers
at some point the protest of users was large enough that they peered with google and everything was well... lol
Anyone down to invite some wierd german for some general chat?
YEET
YEET
Ja
anyone wanna hang out and help me with a video
If I was home then I would be down
What kind video? @sonic lynx
meme video you know just for sheeps and giggles
when will patch new ver.?
No-one knows
this year? or 2020 q1?
nah i think having to click on the link to see the image is hilarious
What’s that world it’s like violet’s avatar world or something with all the horror avatars
my game isn't loading :c
Hey! So I’m doing a Late night talk show esc. Podcast thing and I’m looking for people to come on! If you have something you’d like to share or play music or even try your hand at improve! We have a place for you! If your interested send me a dm! Here’s a little bit of what the show will be like.
Tonight Weekly: Episode 1 Late Night Show in VRCHAT Feat.LoxisGaming and Allistor4111 https://youtu.be/nJcC25hcucY
it's taking so loong to load
Have you tried turning it off and back on
yeah so many times
Or dropping your pc in the tub
👌🏽😌
I already tried to uninstall and install
close and open again
reboot the pc
and every time is (0,0%/ )
@vocal shard Yo. I’m down to talk homie
sure
So I just came into some extra money and I haven't had my Rift S for very long... I want full body tracking some time so I'm thinking of returning my Rift S and getting the Index.
If you can afford it and your PC can handle it 
The "Are You Ready?" thing you can download for the Index says I'm good!
Even if the extra resolution and refresh rate of the Index is a bit too much, you can always just reduce it down to Rift-S res and hz in the Steam VR settings.
So there's no risk of not being able to use it, at least.
it so much money tho 😔
I was planning on commissioning an avatar soon, but grabbing the index would put that on hold for awhile.
What would you be looking forward to more?
I'd really like an avatar, but I feel like if I'm ever going to get the index my best bet is to return the rift s and get the full price back and putting that towards it, as there's no benefit in me owning two headsets.
Is the index still backordered until after Christmas tho?
What is a way to get my hands on a cheap vr headset.
Yeah it doesn't ship until January so I'd be without one for a bit.
Windows Mixed Reality are a good cheap option
For the price WMR isn't bad at all
Then I just gotta get some money, I blew all of mine buying school stuff and a new computer
Thinking about it I might just wait a year or so, or however long it takes for the index to go on sale and pick it up then. The main reason is for cheaper full body tracking and I wouldn't even be able to get that for awhile, either.
it's not really cheaper if you're still spending the extra on the headset.
But yeah, just work with your budget.
i don’t think vr headsets usually go on sale after only a year of being out, other than oculus ones
I guess I meant in conjunction with a "higher quality headset".
And that's why I said however long!
it might be more like a few years tbh, oof
i wish they’d go on sale, i would like to buy one
i have a rift s also
What may work out better for you @sonic ingot Is get a second hand Vive, that will in the long run make getting FBT and later the Index cheaper since you already have two lighthouses.
That's a good idea. I'll keep checking some sites and stuff.
Maybe sell a kidney
If they mess up the surgery I won't have to worry about FBT. 👉 😎 👉
alright tried for a solid week now in 2-3 hours sessions, i can't really get into vr chat, my social anxiety is too high even in vr and i get bored pretty quickly when most ignore cause i'm silent. Hand tracking novelty wore off too so it's not fun anymore. Thanks to some people here who encouraged me last week, but i guess it's just not for me
damn that sucks
I'll probably still play it from time to time but maybe for like an hour max cause I know I'll get bored pretty quickly
what's asl
I can learn it but if others don't understand who cares
Well there's an entire Deaf/Mute/HoH community so they'd understand
as well as people who learn it in order to interact with those people
I never met anyone who seemed to know that even slightly in all the times i played
!cleancache
You can clean cache by deleting everything within C:\Users\%Username%\AppData\LocalLow\VRChat\vrchat apart from output_log.txt and config.json if you have them
though then again i stick to like great pug / black cat and that's about it
hi
I've been in VRC for a few years and I've run into like, 3 people who know it, so either there aren't many, or they keep to themselves, or don't have any major intersections with my social groups.
Well anyway, I tried. I'll stick to solo vr games
My bets are on the latter two more than there not being many.
or just solo games in general
I once ran into a friend of a friend who knew it
Still going to read ASL as age / sex / location.
Samesies.
yup
ASL?
Lol yea
How many years we have until FBT equal to (or above) Index in performance becomes affordable (~500$)?
It gunna be awhile but I'm hoping it's the next step.
Probably when someone actually develops a dedicated full body Tracking system. Currently there isnt really an actual dedicated full body system for mass market, and only a handful of games use it
Isn't fBT cheaper than that already 
I mean, I got a used Vive for 300 and the trackers under 100 each, so it was around 500-600, and that's for everything
👀
I wouldn't bet on it. The hand Tracking is good for menu's, but not really gameplay without movement methods, or that the tracking only works in a limited range and disables if one hand occludes the other or if they're too close together
Hello, It worked before but I can't load any videos now. T.T
How can I solve it?
If it happen across multiple world, try reinstall vrchat to get latest copy.
I'm pretty new to VR chat what should I start doing
What ever you want to start with.
Explore many world from menu to start with.
imagine the lost potential of not calling it complete body tracking
Stacking shibes is amazing
@hollow ingot The Index will never be that cheap, unless you get it second hand. Look at the Vive and Vive Pro pricing over time.
Any news on Oculus Go Hand Free update for VRchat ?
Oculus go?
Yep
Likely vrchat wont use it
No there isn't.
Ello
Yes there is
Because you cant really control stuff without buttons
@uncut trail Go and Quest are different devices...
Oculus go and quest are different things smh
Wats Go?
3dof headset
Dw ignore go thing
Im just curious
Its a terrible creation
Never heard of it
And no, given that using hands to control things with no haptics and such is horrible, don't expect an implementation in VRChat unless Facebook pressure them to do it. Interaction without a device is generally horrible.
Glorified phone vr
Im talking about Oculus Quest since we got it for VRchat few month ago
slowly leaves convo
Look how many users using Quest atm
Right now Rift S being left in the dark while Quest gets updated
imagine this. You just have hands and no analog stick to move. How will you move? See? that wouldnt work
The rift s doesnt need updates lol thats probably why
Sucks Australian can't get the Valve Index
The han tracking is honestly just a marketing act and its clearly working lol. It wont be used in any major titles
Cause Valves are complete tossers tbh
I can only imagine the hand tracking bein useful when you just want to chill on your couch and watch some movies or videos in vr
Or RPing
If something doesnt get pointless updates all the time = dead @snow wadi its common sense

You have option change from controllers to hand free
@uncut trail the hand tracking can bot track you crossing your arms or leaving them resting next to your body. Unless you want to rp like a zombie having you hands in front of your face all the time than ints not good
Why don't you first search the canny and see if it's been mentioned, and if it isn't you may go ahead and open a case about it.
^^^
in video they did mentioned VRChat
@uncut trail You do know that international logistics aren't an easy thing right? That doesn't make Valve "tossers". Although you appear to be balls deep on Facebook's dick right now so feel free to keep sucking that. I'm sure they're a wonderful company.

so thats a deluxe AS on an odyssey?
please tell me its a cheaper alternative
yes
linking a redirection site insted of the target site 
so so far i changed the face cover to something far better as well as the forehead pad, i installed a top strap for better weight balance, i have velcro on the back and hangers on the sides to pull the lenses closer to my eyes for much bigger fov and 0 light leak
i think one thing is left is something for the nose area
its too hard on my nose
Anyone else miss the prime days of Gaia Night and Open Mic Night?
It is weird how Open Mic Night went from being one of the most popular maps to absolutely nothing.
I heard it’s because they added like a voice increase on the stage and now people who mic spam have more of an trolling advantage.
Ahh, so something that should have been useful, but because people are assholes, it had the opposite effect.
probably a combination of that, the mr. whiskers thing, and just new maps in general
The Mr Whiskers thing?
it put roaches all over the map
I miss Open Mic Night, used to go there to listen to ppl play on instruments
How'd that even become so unpopular?
Who knows
Well that's creepy
Gaia Night was also a great world back then.
Guys should I get a rift s or a quest I can't decide 😩
If it's for PCVR, then a Rift S is better.
More powerful and a bigger library right?
Well.. I heard Quest with the link cable is better?
Well you heard wrong
You're still limited to the battery life
Because you get portability when traveling, plus isn’t the display better in the quest than the rift s
And it isn't very comfortable either
I don’t personally know, I have the Index kit
Pros for Rift S: Better screen (higher resolution, sharper), lighter, more comfortable, better tracking. Pros for Quest: Can operate on a (limited, basic game) library standalone.
If all you will play are PCVR games then get Rift S
You're still talking about quest sasha?
Yup
If you intend on using it for PCVR via the cable, you're still limited to the short battery life of the Quest
Jamie got Quest and exchanged it quickly for Rift S
Yer I'll probably have the least regrets with a rift s
It's not very comfortable. It's designed to be a standalone headset that doesn't require a PC to run it
If that's not what you want, don't go for it
Oh really? I thought the link cable that was hyped keeps it charged while experience full Vr from Pc.
Well the official link cable isnt out yet
You can still do link tho
Without charging AFAIK
but it won't charge the Quest though
- you still have a front heavy headset because everything required to run games is installed inside of the headset itself
Hm. Idk I’ve only heard from a friend who uses link with his a quest. I’ve always recommend the Rift S tho to people who have a decent enough PC to handle it.
Or valve index, if you have that money around.
And Quest with link has higher system requirements than a normal PCVR headset since it is all going through USB rather than HDMI or DP
Link also compromises the visual quality as it still uses forced fixed foveated rendering as well as lossy compression.
Rift S has one screen, Quest has 2
Quest actually has same resolution as the Index
Also the fact it still uses a pentile screen on the Quest really murders the quality, the individual pixels are very obvious.
The Quest looks terrible compared to the Index btw, despite them having the same resolution on paper. I assume that's the fault of the missing subpixels and screen-door.
Rip Oculus.
It legitimately felt like I was using my Vive again, weirdly enough. But yeah, Pentile basically halves your horizontal resolution which explains the lack of clarity in comparison.
Did you return your Quest Enverex?
No, I still have it. I don't use it, but I still have it.
Thought you would return it since you dislike it so much
It works for the purpose I bought it for, it's just disappointingly bad at what it does.
Especially given how much people praise it, but I'm going to assume that's ownership bias.
Could be that they never had Index to compare it to :p
I mean even compared to my Vive.
The resolution is better than the Vive, but the pentile arrangement is just as visible. And less comfortable than even the original Vive headstrap.
Though the issue isn't the strap, but the "facial interface" which appears to be designed for aliens.
Mhm, Vive is really solid headset.
It is. I have the original Vive and like it a lot
Even though the resolution is kinda poop
Yeah, the reason why I didn't get it and waited for next gen headsets if you can even call them next gen
Headsets with higher res displays would be better
Index controllers are what I would call true gen 2
I'd definitely call Index gen 2 in general after having used a Vive for so long, not sure why everyone is afraid of the titles.
Lol no
They have a good balance and feel for gun-based games.
And allow for a very wide variety of grip poses for beat saber. Otherwise they're a bit limited.
They're also incredibly unhandy for said gun-based games when the controllers collide
As if thumbsticks are any better for walking
I love trackpads
Ngl I dont like the trackpad walking all that much
the thumbstick on wmr isnt used by almost any game anyways
Sure I get used to it and using gestures is really easy, and I dont accidentally trigger stuff
Yet I can still very reliably use gestures but, hmm, still
But in vrc that makes it sometimes acidentally trigger gestures
not with advanced vive control enabled
because when you click or let go it will go to the default gesture
Ever since I ticked the advanced controls I barely ever accidentally use gestures
With advanced vive control there's a brief delay before gestures kick in allowing to touch & click to move without doing gestures.
Oculus Touch seems to have issues with accidentally using gestures every time they move
With standard they activate immediately.
At least the friends I have who play on an Oculus seem to constantly be triggering something when they walk
and even if you touch it too long when you press it undoes the gesture (with advanced vive control)
Also, releasing all buttons stops the gesture
With the standard controls they stick
my friend has some weird gestures with sounds and particles and hes always triggering them on accident
That's why you dont use that
and all of his avatars are poor or very poor
Standard
There's like, 5 avatars with sound that I don't immediately dislike.
The tolerable ones I can think of is Orkel's Mini-me that goes EEEEEEE as it flies, and one where someone has a slap sound on open hand so they can slap your shit when you're being a twit.
Not always
At least I don't think your average loli avatar going AWOOO is bad is it?
More like horribly overdone.
True
Heard one, heard them all, don't want to hear any ever again.
I've met one person with a robo avatar that made a few beeping noises on gestures that go along with facial expressions
Speaking of stuff like that
Dont ya love when you switch to an avatar and there's spawn in sounds? :I
*Typo
Subtlety is something of a lost art in these parts ☹️
Heard those
Spawn sounds are a great way to get blocked
But pretty much any spawn in sound bothers the ever living heck out of me
It's something out of my hands to control
Avatar volume = 0
I can't change someone elses settings though
You can change yours though
The reason I hate it is because I dont want to bother people with something that I cant control
... what
What I mean is that I dont want anything to happen unless I specifically decide to do it
you can literally turn your local avatar volume slider down to 0 and no more fucking spawn sounds
Or any shitty avatar sounds
What is there I'm not getting
123 if your 12-13
If you can find me a solution to disable my spawn in sound from a public avatar globally for everyone, please tell me
Stop using public avatars then
Yeah I figured that was what I was confused over
I dont want to switch to something and have something happening without me pressing anything
Avatars that have global spawn in audio are reportable, right?
If not they fucking should be
Given that avatars aren't supposed to be able to produce global audio anymore.
Where ya gettin' that from?
I had something like this happen to me recently.
It was part of the audio update a few months ago
I know the rules but why's that part of this convo now?
If anyone's still doing it, it's an exploit
Because it's heavily tangentially related?
Hmmmmm
Mhhhh
In that case, can we talk about avatar audio that plays with safety on?
I think that's the same issue
My custom settings allow Avatar, Voice, Shader
Why that sound is still playing until I hide that avatar I dont know
I joined Void Club (I know...) and even though I had Safety Settings set so that no rank at all could use Avatar Sounds, I could still hear "XXXX HAS JOINED THE LOBBY". It was so loud everywhere and I pinpointed it down to someone sitting in front of that one mirror in the back. Avatar didn't look cancerous at all though.
Global audio that plays on spawn despite global audio apparently not being possible on avatars and it still happening with avatar audio off.
Not a mic
If I hide it, it's gone instantly and the Mic talk icon doesnt show up either
I report the avatar as malicious then report the creator too, just for good measure.
Not ingame
There's a small delay between an avatar loading and your safety settings being applied where those sounds or other effects can occur. Have seen particles go off too
Woot
When I literally hid avatars with safety settings it wasn't coming through. I switched it on just to check and audio was playing again from the start.
obviously it was a trusted user
So safety on, avatar loaded, you hide and unhide and still plays?
Yes, it starts from beginning.
As if audio was integral part of avatar feature that you can hide with Safety Settings.
https://github.com/Hotrian/OpenVRDesktopDisplayPortal you can try this
it's what OVRDrop was before it went closed source
there is a specific version that is for twitch chat
without desktop capture beeing needed so a bit more efficient
What’s the general consensus on streaming VR Chat?

streaming vrc is pretty stale now
Painfully unfunny normally.
Forced human, attention whoring, etc. It's not a good scene.
ive seen some use it just to have their avatar showing while they talk to chat, i think thats fine
but roaming publics looking for content out of people is ehhh now
Streamers in vrchat suck!
Kinda unfair to apply the bad streamer stigma to everyone. Most big or small streamers I meet are really down to earth I find. It's usually around the middle ground when some start to get an ego and think it makes them special without having the maturity of a big streamer, that some are toxic
You're the only good streamer, what are you talking about

I just had a streamer try to get me banned from a discord today for no reason cuz they were "moody" so I may be a little unfair right now towards streamers but too bad I'm moody
Thats just an asshole with a streaming hobby
Hi moody, I'm nate
Oof. Yeah some definitely have a power thing. Somehow having followers makes people feel important
Imagine needing others to feel powerful
It's all inside boyo 💪

hiii
Followers aren't always as important as the influence you get from them. Sometimes just one person is enough but they have to be really special for you personally to make you feel powerful or confident enough to do things you wouldn't normally do in other cases.
I feel bad because a few of my friends definitely use them as an emotional crutch at times. They know they'll always get support because VRC stream watchers are mostly brainless goons who will say anything to feel noticed.
VRC Stream fans are definitely a form of toxic positivity lol
🤔
That sounds kinda nice to have
I want an army of brainless goons who will love me
You can start your own crash gang and promote your goons by giving them crash guns.
Trust me I've seen it a lot and it's not nice to have lol
I mean in the long run it's not
Also fucking orbiters god damn.
I want my entire basis of happiness reliant on a bunch of strangers on the internet who blindly worship me thouughhh
It gets chaotic because they can't even trust each other.
Oh wait I don't need to stream for that I can just talk in public world's and get eboy orbiters to worship me. even easier
I will say that the constant feeling you might be streamed makes it hard to open up sometimes. If you want to have a more heart to heart discussion with a small group of friends, but one is actually streaming online and you have no idea
Exactly, it's a complete breach of trust.
Ironic.
Ironic?
Agree completely Jamie 1000 percent
I like dance streams
The majority of streamers, ironically, are Trusted Users.

How is that ironic
100% VRChat streamers play VRChat. Really makes you think...
(it's a prequel reference)
I don't think many people are just secretly streaming your heart to heart convos either lol
I see more people avoid that than not
I don't think VRChat streaming is as terrible of an idea as the popular opinion. I just think they're fucking boring the majority of the time
That or super forced
I usually only watch my friends when they're playing other games
Most of VRC streams are memes.
But those se the only ones I watch
^ this, i dont get wat ch ing vrc streams unless its for specific events
I'll watch dancing streamers sometimes but that's about it
dancing streamers are cool
Most of the active/watched ones seem to be hanging out or RP, the rest are a few dancers
Pizza

Scroll through and read the convo🤔
someone should just stream making pizza
making pizza in vrc
Lol pizza
Had a friend who used to do a lot of irl cooking streams lol
Making a cake in vr
Do you think we will see vrchat pregnancies soon
Wellll
Second Life style
People doing a 9 month rp with a preggers model
I've seen at least 2 of those and my friend did a comm for at least one more
Oh RP lol
i have seen a pregnant model once, that shit creepy asfuck
Like those people in second Life who get pregnant for 9 months in game and use a pregnant model
I saw two preggo models a few nights ago in the span of an hour so that is what got me thinking
What did I just come back to?
^
Lol too weird a question I guess
i cannot comprehend why one would use this, can someone give me an idea
I don't know if VRC relationships are very common anyways.
RP reasons maybe
Yeah I keep seeing the same person lol

I'm gonna rip Jamie's model and make a pregnant version
They're pretty common tho, my friend is getting married irl soon
I'm pretty hype for him sicne they're super happy. Just got a house together and everything
Most people who play this game don't have the mental maturity to properly date though, so it leads to a lot of bad experiences
Just the type who think they need to be in one to be happy
Most VR relationships don't seem to work out very well, and the biggest barrier is physical distance. If you have feelings for someone, it's extremely frustrating to live in a completely different part of the world from them.
vr kinda helps with that, but kinda is the key word
I guess VR helps you figure yourself out a little bit but it also doesn't help with finding what you're looking for.
I refused to do long distance relationships before vr but vrchat makes it kinda not as bad . Been with one guy I met in vrchat for 9 months now but I desperately want to meet up in real life
The one LDR I was in lasted 3 years and wee were together irl for 2, so of people put in the effort they can work. Like I said most people are just potatoes
I hope my bf isn't sad when he realizes I'm not a cute anime waifu irl
That's one thing I've wondered about VRC relationships... Do people fall in love with just the personality... Or the personality and the avatar together
The latter one.
Have seen quite a few guys who fall in love with each other but are "only gay in vrchat"
So I'd say the avatar helps a lot

I'd say VR gives a deeper perspective on the fact gender doesn't always matter.
It's like that episode of black mirror
I just know there have been ones who liked eachother in VRC, but when they actually saw the other irl, the feelings changed. Idk, I'd rather not risk online relationships if possible
That's a huge fear of mine with my boyfriend. One or both of us feeling like that. And I know another couple in vrc that met irl and it happened to them.
so being anime waifu in VRC helps
Depends.
I had a talk with one guy who dated 16 people in VRC, he said the avatar plays a significant role.
Wonder if things like exchanging irl pictures and video chatting reduce the risk of things being different when you meet irl
Oof the "VRchat gay" thing has hit a few people I know hard
Starting off with he irl pictures once you get serious can help "break the illusion" but it's no guarantee
The problem with online relations is also that you just have the positive communication
Loads of the small annoying parts about people get 'removed' because of the distance and an annoyance of no contact gets added
That means once they meet up it can often go south fast
So, the only way to keep it up is to move in together?
🤷♂️ No idea what works well
All i know is that online relations arent at all the same as irl ones
It matters the person
Personally, I need that physical attention with someone.... cuddles are life
There has been a few long distance relationships from VRC that have worked out. Know about one couple that have moved in together
It may also depend on timing. Come to think of it, PewDiePie's marriage is a result of events that started with online dating.
pewdiepie i see?What did i miss
Just talking about VR relationships.
So long as you trust in what you two built Yin...and you both feel for what you two created after so long then.. your relationship will keep going and you will both keep in trying your best to be happy! ^-^
@polar jasper Its the exeption and not the rule though
Also might be because a lot of younger peeps keep e relations and those often dont last long or are really serious
As long as your life goals are compatible with each other's and you're willing to keep meeting each other IRL as often as you can (especially if you're from different regions), it could work pretty well.
I mean, that would be uncomfortable and expensive, but the point is to see if you think it's worth it.
Easier said than done.
Don't think about hurting them, just do it.
As long as we're not talking about anything illegal, of course.
What's the secret sauce?
Have a functioning brain and date someone with one as well
That's the opposite of what you want lol
A relationship built on just sex is asking for trouble.
I feel like LDR relationship is similiar to irl relationship. Patience. Understanding. Communication .
Like obviously it's fine to do but basing how much you like them on that (which I see a lot of) is just asking to break up in a few weeks
I believe asexuals won't find this advice particularly helpful.
I forget, what’s asexual?
I have a tweet for everything.
No sexual feelings or urges for people
Heya
Ahhh 👌
What do you even consider VR dating in the first place?
Because they meet more people in VR than out, and different people than they'd normally meet
Yea I mean my bf is off of vrchat just involves communication and spending time together and u can eventually meet up
We vid chat and talk a lot
It's not "VR dating" it's just dating someone online, a long distance relationship
Yes what mic said
A chance to something that out of fear of acceptance and understanding.....through VR you may actually manage to approach that which you feel like you may never be able to do IRL...that's what I consider a VR dating thing might be for some people ^-^
No different than meeting someone in an mmo that used to be the primary way nerds met through gaming for ldr
Well I mean I’ve dated both irl and vr and my current relationship communication wise is so amazing compared it all depends on the person and how well u know them
That can also be true
Plus I mean I plan on meeting him so it’s no different than internet dating
Everyone's different and every relationship is different
Cant hold it on the same merits
^^
You've just gotta remember a lot of people in this game are extremely socially inept, that's why so many fail
Yes I agree and I get that too mic
Like not saying it to be rude to anyone, it's just the truth.
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They might not be That social.....but they really trully try at least this much..
Saying it more as a fact than an insults. Every single failed relation I've seen so far in VR have been just immature socially inept people on one side or the other
I don't mean anti social, I mean they don't have the social.... intelligence I guess?
It’s diff with everyone I mean that’s true in irl relationships lol
I’ve had it both ways I’ve had some horrible communication in irl lol so it can happen anywhere
Like meeting a lot of the people I did at twitchcon made that super apparent
How big do you think the chances are to meet the right person online if someone is specifically looking for a partner?
I feel the same can be said about IRL relationships too.
Exactly
I mean I don’t know I really wasn’t looking it just happened lol never thought I’d do the vrchat relationship thing lol
Oh true, irl ones can be bad if not worse.
It’s just like irl u don’t seek it lol it usually just happens when u click with someone
Haha I deff didn’t have the mindset where I’m like yea I’m gonna find me a man lmao nope just hung out with people made friends
Exactly right
The few people I've been interested in or had flings with, we just met naturally, soent time together and it just kinda fell in place.
We're always looking for someone to spend time with. Relationships or not.
The fact it's so random is pretty depressing. When you want to have a relationship, you just don't get it, but when you're too busy to have one, it may go the other way around.
Yea I mean it’s a social platform so I mean u are gonna meet people and u gotta put yourself out there
Make friends I mean I’ve met some amazing people on vrchat
Which irl you might hhardly find
I mean even if u don’t find someone u make memories with people I’ve met a few irl it’s been a great adventure
I know
Oh I'm already approved?
^_^ u never know who u will find but I mean I found everyone I know by pure chance lol
That was quick
If you're out there looking to date you're just gonna find people equally as desperate. Then it'll fail.
Lots of people are just looking for hook-ups.
Those are nice too 
Well u don’t have to though lol in irl people always wanna hook up too
Lol
I mean I just set people straight lol
I'd be all right with IRL if I didn't live in a place where everybody uses a language I don't want to hear.
Oh got ya well I mean just make friends see where it goes u got this ^_^
I just hang out with friends and mutuals, stuff happens or doesn't. Not much to it.
@flint sundial all the blessing for your relationship thou
I mean u can talk all day about it but unless u go out and do it then it’s all a idea it won’t happen and aww thank you I’m actually in vc with him right now lmao 🤣
We both dance in vr so it’s always fun
I officially speak to people in VRC more often than RL people now because it's simply easier to find people that I mesh with, especially when you're no-longer in something like school and don't really see many people anymore.
Yeah definitely
Yes that’s true I’ve met people from diff walks of life and with amazing stories it’s never a dull moment
Yeah, but that hardly applies to interactions with people evolving into romantic interests because of the lack of IRL presence.
Also so many talented people on vrc it’s amazing
I wish we could have VR bands like Japan does RIP.
Well I mean if it’s not for u then don’t pursue it lol but I mean I don’t know I have romance with my bf even without the lack of irl presence
We do stuff all the time in the best capacity we can
And ooo that would be awesome vr bands
Ooo I’d go
I've been listening to AMOKA's new song all day
I've been to s few concerts in-game
I’ve been jamming to the songs I like to dance to today
Like 3 or 4 actual bands played on all 3 event days, s few musical vtubers too
Ooo I’d love to see that lol I haven’t been to any concerts lol I go to lots of dance events but that’s just cuz all of my friends dance lol
The JP community has a lot of musicians with original music, I don't hear much from English ones mostly just covers.
Ooo I love Japanese musicians though they kill it
They are more accepting in the virtual and augmented worlds than the western side is.
Yes that’s true they r cool I’ve met a few early in the morning my time
Granted most can’t speak English from what I’ve found
Yeah I wish we had more communities like that but people don't seem as interested in being part of anything more than club maps
Or RP
Hmm 🤔 I don’t know to be honest and yea I do not like rp lol I tried I got mad lol and yea I pop around a lot like tonight gonna be having a late bday party for myself it’ll be fun
Which are fine but it's just the same old thing
Yea I get that i just get involved with a lot of groups I love meeting new people lol it’s always fun
I'm sure that if someone where to reach out to a band and ask if they'd be interested then you could probably find someone. But you'd also need the equipment for them to use.
Oo that would be cool but hard to coordinate I’m sure
Agreed
For sure, but it is possible
That would be pretty cool though
I’d be stoked to see that
Last couple nights me and my friends have been in "never have I ever" just singing at the fire
Couple of them have guitars
The Great Pug has one person playing guitar on stage every other week, which is pretty nice
Ooo I love never have I ever and yea I’ve been doing vrchat talent shows I just ordered my studio mic
Though, not a band
Yea I usually just sing no band lol
Just imagine the practice
Ooo would be so much fun
It would suck to have slow internet during the performance
That can be sorted, in some ways
Maybe just have a band irl come together and just share an avatar
Just have a outside person do the countdown and it should be fairly synced
Well like when I’ve played soundpad It’s not at the same time for others
And yea that’s true
Just have a person standing up there with their mouth wide open as you here Metallica shooting iut
Out*
Even being in the same room, with the same connection, you'll still be out of sync unless that third party is there
Haha hell yea
Is there a stadium world?
I’m sure there is somewhere
Private ones for sure
Hmm 🤔 I’m sure there are some I’ve never looked though
It would be awesome
That's pretty cool
So, it's just up to what people want to make and do.
But if no one is willing to do anything we're not going to get anywhere 🤷♂️
Yea that’s true too
There's nothing wrong with a relationship built on sex, if you're both into it.
Well no there isn’t but it’s all what the person is looking for
They use an app called netduetto to sync their live playing I believe. There's English equivalents tho
Ooo that’s cool 😎
Nice
hey i need help here, i have index controllers and they are not properly working in vrc, i can't move my fingers and i can move with the touchpad for some weird reasons, i already tried to use them on different games and they work fine, only in vrc i have this weird problem
what do you mean with
i can over with the touchpad
Sorry I’m not sure I don’t have index
ok i edited the text sorry
so with move do you mean walk or move the fingers?
fecapalm
You were told this in the other channel too
u can move your fingers in gesture mode I have index too but ok
thank you tohru
U just have to put your fingers into the position of the override
thats unchangable
if you can walk with the touchpad but not the analog stick then maybe steamvr thinks that you are using a vive controller instead of an index controller
idk how to fix that tho

HELLO
What are they selling? in all caps
?
Chocolate
YEET
Can anyone help me with what i need to buy to use leg trackers on Vrchat?
the trackers and track straps
Gah, why does vrc sometimes decide not to cache things >(
I want to buy leg trackers to use for Vr. But i don't want to buy the wrong things.
Then your out of luck
are yo ugetting that thing where it loads an old instance of your world?
@vocal shard you want the vive trackers and sensors
Beside a VR headset yea
I have a oculus rift s would that be ok?
Un ja. Also be sure to have a way to charge all your trackers, such as a hub.
To get FBT to work well on a Rift S you'd need 3 trackers, 2 Vive Lighthouses, and a whole lot of patience
Would also recommend openvr advanced settings
Thanks for the help guys.
Hey guys I've been workin super hard on a map but my computer was factory reset and I lost everything. Is there anyway to recover the files from the game?
Yes
There is some softwares for data recovery, but it all depends on what happened.
If the new data overwrote old data then it breaks the files.
You can do a search online, there also are some free tools.
But especially with special files, it's harder.
You should not install anything that you really dont need to install now
any new data can and will overwrite old data places.
any idea when valve index will be back in stock? been waiting weeks now
Next year I think

Righto I finished creating a build plan for the artist of my avatar, he shall be coming into VRC really soon!
Gaming/VR PC to be exact.
And now the bed looks amazing and I shall demand sleep from it.

why nobody posts avatars for friday the 13th
the only things i found was updates on today
and forest made by jason
like i never saw a avatar world
Gotta go find them on your own.
but most of the people who used jason was in mortal kombat (which i dont like) OR ported them.
avatar world*
and i dont know how to port
1000 things to download
Then I guess you're at the mercy of others who choose whether or not they wanna upload something
All because you can't be bothered to download, what? Two programs, and SDK, and a blender mod?
LOL
you're all playing vrchat right now?
This really sucks, I've been working on a super big detailed world and my computer died and I lost everything :(
Save and backup
why are the pepe emoji banned frmo this dicrod
Does anybody have any really nice Baby Yoda Avatar?
and if you do send me a picture and add me plz
Because pepe is annoying to look at

Best not to question the reason and abide by said rules.
Hello, i did all the things that I can do but still can't load any videos. What should I do? 💦
hey
Question is there like a legit place in vr that holds catholic mass ? i was told that there might be but idk if its true
Can't say I've ever heard of one, but I do know of a die-hard preacher in VRC named "PastorBrock" so he's probably a good lead.
Oh there's a community like that that does stuff Sundays
4PM EST if i remember the times right
hai guys~
Ello ^-^
Am still tired
why
Dunno
you dunno
I slept for a really long time and woke up with my eyes still feeling tired
hey ummm want join me play game
who has vr herre
almost nobody 
i dont know which vr to get
Yeah never seen 1, only desktops
yea were all desktop users
what specs do u have
I play VRChat on my Switch
I play on ps5
splatoon 2
is switch good
Switch is good yes
Yin omg
I have a Switch and haven't played it in so long .-.
give it to me
Looks like you guys need to Switch things up
I only use mine when travelling
sasha mason get the upgraded version for double battery
what games should i get sasha
get gta 5 and red dead redemption 2 on switch
can u get gta 5
@harsh depot I usually play it at home. As for games, Splatoon 2 / Super Mario Maker 2 / Luigi's Mansion 3 ect
no were just messing with you lol. Get mario maker 2. Its a really good game
Just get all of 'dem first party titles basically
Celeste
Sasha give me your switch
Hmm no

i cant get them all switch games are 50$ each
Get 'em on sale
Celeste is 20
Rar
Oof
At least use a proper program
No chat mods are online right now, riot!

Dafuk is tat guy trying to pull off
go go baka, decrypt
I dunno but I won't click it. Actually lemme block him too
succc
the thing is it wont download until you click the download button on the link... FAIL
lel
Time to dox that server

how can i switch from teleporting to using my joysticks to move, i just got the valve index
turn off locomotion
in the settings
how
Settings
in the system settings, top left
Gogo
in vrchat?
yes
ok ok

Quick!
is this a robbery

Place all the indexes in the bag right now!

whats everyones specs on their pc
potato
Potato+ssd
i have 1tb ssd
thorium powered and nitrogen cooled rig here
lol whats that
what cpu needs nitrogen to stay cool
oh and now what do you actually have lol
Not using dilithium power cells for power 
im sorry, is your petty screen not able to project text very well that you cant read
i already said what i have
oh fuck this is going to make me dizzy
He did tho
what is it
your pc might have more processing power than your brain
which button do i jump with?
A thorium powered nitrogen cooled pc
I just use H²O to cool my rig :/
jump irl
jump irl
Bad Nico
lmao
trueee
Irl jump
It's the right thumbstick
nope still not folllowing u

Oh what socket type is your cpu ghosto?
Gold or nickel plated?
silver
lol

and nickel
what do u actually have though
Wtfhs madlad having composite cryogenic socket
not following
follow me on twitch
no
: )
whats your specs
He talks about his rig and how he got it on his streams
yeah
not following what ur saying

Yes I do have a Switch, why?
I haven't played with in a while tho so dunno 🤷
but you will no stuff about it surely
is there any kind of name censor-ship?
like my friendo is a cactus man
so his online name is danny prickle
but it looks like making his steam acc for VRC changed it to slickle?
could be. I once had the word "shit" in an avatar and it got replaced with the word "poop"
same here i had SJW i think
because it had a facebook shield and a tumblr sword
and it changed to yes?
My avatar names are very descriptive
Oke
Like "Pacis Firina V4 Maxi (1.55)"
"paci" "paci1" "paci again"
Ah
its V4 because I made a few reworks
but still any idea on the name censor?
No clue
euff
All my descriptions are "Edited by Paci"
name censors do exist
The onesies have "Edited by Paci and Solar"
mine are just names i give them
And you get that one when?
I always added all my credits to the description. Glad we can see them now.
Yeah I have to update them with base model infos






