#vrchat-general-2

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molten gale
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Stop

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You know that the minimum age for vrchat is 13 right? 5 year old kids shouldnt be here

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Welp bye

cobalt mountain
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Heya everyone,
anyone here has vive full body tracking?

molten gale
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Lets see how long until you get banned

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Why are all chat mods away exactly when they are needed :/

cobalt mountain
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with your attitude few people Will like you. won't really help you in life

molten gale
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Whos that targeted at

cobalt mountain
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not you Paci

molten gale
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Id have to agree then

wind totem
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oof

vocal shard
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:U

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Wait me paci?

molten gale
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Wat?

vocal shard
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.-.?

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The thing above^^

molten gale
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Oh no, we were talking to someone and they got banned

vocal shard
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Ah okay!

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can i know who got banned?

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I think it was the peppa pig person.

molten gale
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^

vocal shard
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uh

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thats me, i just changed my pfp and my username

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.-.

molten gale
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Nope

vocal shard
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ye

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i didnt get banned

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i got kicked .-.

molten gale
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I aint stupid, if messaged disappear someone got soft or hardbanned

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Thats a softban

vocal shard
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nah

molten gale
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You get banned, all messages get deleted and you get unbanned

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A kick doesnt remove messages

vocal shard
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im still here

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C:

molten gale
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You didnt read my message did you

vocal shard
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bruh

molten gale
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Eh, back to vrchat

vocal shard
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there

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.-.

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wa?

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do u play roblox?

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.-.

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what squad?

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oh

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oh oke oke

left minnow
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Oh I got to blue user ^^

left minnow
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Yep, that was a good time lad

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sluuurrrrp

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I want to try my hand at making a vr room, thats possible when youre blue right? Or just avatars

umbral reef
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f you can upload avatars you are also allowed to upload worlds

left minnow
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Sweet ^^

still lark
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You just can't publish the world until you're user, right?

left minnow
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Ah that would be a bummer, but I guess by the time im any good at making some worlds I probably will be up to that level I hope ^^

still lark
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Probably!

vocal shard
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oh

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i watched that video :>

faint skiff
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I ran into that person by accident the other day doing the same thing.

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I suspect they are not actually asian, heh

vocal shard
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?

bronze vault
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Morning 🙂

umbral plume
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Mornyan~

bronze vault
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How you all doing 🙂

covert blade
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I just woke up

broken plover
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I woke up at 6am today lol

covert blade
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Also what happened with your toast? 👀

broken plover
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I hid it in a pumpkin

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jk. Its only on the avatar my friend made so I dont have the asset of it

covert blade
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But you have the profile picture of it 👀

broken plover
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My friend made an avatar for me. The one my friend made has some changes. I have the original model

thick dirge
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im super bored :c

covert blade
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Play VRChat

crystal fossil
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I just started converting PC avatars to Quest because I actually feel bad for the Quest users I run into. Every time, it goes like "How come I can't see anyone? The only person I can see is myself. Is it my Safety settings? There, I set it to very poor. No.. There, I showed your avatar too. Still no. Oh, no one is using Quest compatible avatars.. Oh well.."
I feel so bad! So maybe next time they'll still be able to see me. Along with my converted and optimized particle animations.

covert blade
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I kinda get what you mean, but at the same time I have a hard time finding a well performing full body ready quest compatible avatar that I actually like, and I don't make 'em myself either

final vale
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quest is too weak for vrchat avatars. quest compatible avatars are boring

crystal fossil
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My main avatar just happened to be 24k, so it wasn't too hard to bring down.The particles were the hard part to have them still look at all similar.

covert blade
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Depends. One of the avatars I have fav'd is a Star Wars Battle Droid that looks pretty much identical to the non-quest compatible versions found in the CIS world. Onesies avatars are also decent and so are the Kings Raid ones

crystal fossil
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Besides, you can upload avatars over the limits for quest, they just have to choose to show it.

final vale
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wich will crash them

covert blade
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Hmmm no it wont

crystal fossil
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So as long as I don't go too crazy, they can just unhide my quest version and actually see me.

faint skiff
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The Kings Raid ones are a DMCA waiting to happen. One of the people linked to the game imported all the assets from the game itself into VRC without permission...

covert blade
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Oh

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Well that'd be a shame because they're actually decent

faint skiff
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It's because it's literally all the characters from the game, taken wholesale from their own internal assets.

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(and it's a mobile game, so they were low poly to begin with)

covert blade
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That explains why they're so well optimized

crystal fossil
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If a model on PC VRC is 140k, it wouldn't crash a user that unhides them.

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So I doubt a 10k model on Quest will crash a quest user.

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¯_(ツ)_/¯

covert blade
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The battle droid I have has like 11k

faint skiff
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Yeah. They were basically "ready to go" as it was. Wouldn't surprise me if the game was using Unity as well.

covert blade
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Still auto hidden for quest but they can show my avatar and then they can see me

faint skiff
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10k on Quest is fine, it's actually the upper allowed limit in the SDK for Quest.

crystal fossil
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I tried just uploading a version of my main at 24k and a version that I brought down.

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I'll test both.

faint skiff
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Yeah I really wouldn't recommend that, Quest really starts to struggle with more than a few people present. If they're using 25K tris avatars then it'll be even worse.

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(I have a Quest and ventured into VRC in it a few times on the native version, it's er... not a fun experience)

crystal fossil
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In my head, they'll probably see less than 3 people in a cross platform world where users are all using PC only models anyway.

lunar cedar
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Yea, the limits aren't really meant for the performance of having one avatar loaded

final vale
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btw anyone has the Ugandan Pterodactyl avatar ? i want to clone it

faint skiff
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All the avatars I make for myself and all the ones I make for friends are all Quest compatible simply for the sake of completeness, but it is a time consuming process and being in VRC on Quest feels like being in some rundown dystopia.

crystal fossil
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¯_(ツ)_/¯

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Like I said, I feel bad when a user can't see anyone. I've been around some Quest users that sounded interesting but didn't have the chance to feel included.

faint skiff
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@crystal fossil Assuming no more than 3 users would be silly, also what if they're not in a cross-platform world? (or rather one that Quest users frequent?). Last time I ventured to the Black Cat in Quest, there were 8 or more compatible.

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Well yeah, make them Quest compatible if you want, just don't do it over the 10k limit.

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The hardware struggles as is, using the explicit show option just isn't a good idea.

crystal fossil
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Well, I have two versions. If I had a quest I'd test it myself.

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Are IK scripts whitelisted on quest?

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There's no mention anywhere.

faint skiff
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Almost nothing is whitelisted on Quest, so it's safe to assume no

crystal fossil
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In my head, Quest user have IK. Which means they use Final IK? Which means Final IK should be whitelisted still?

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Which would meeean

faint skiff
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Doesn't final IK not even work on PC anymore? At least not properly (as far as user added bits go)

crystal fossil
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You could use IK in place of rigidbodies.

faint skiff
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I heard it's been broken for a while now

crystal fossil
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I just made some things using final IK.

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That work globally.

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The targets just have to be under a parent gameobject that has IK Follower on it.

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And the target can be positioned where ever.

faint skiff
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Hmm, ok.

crystal fossil
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At the very least, it won't work on fingers that are animated by Index controllers.

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Not sure about anything else that animates fingers.

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If Final IK works on Quest, you could make some amazing things for quest users still.

crude cradle
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I also feel bad for Quest users, they're missing out on so many things and feeling excluded from the community, some pc users can really be harsh against them, idk why 🤔

crystal fossil
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Basically anything that uses rigidbodies on PC can be made with IK for quest.

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And be much more optimized than rigidbodies still.

covert blade
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I kinda feel bad for Quest users but at the same time, I can't really do much 'bout it

crystal fossil
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Now I almost wish I had a Quest so I could test what's possible.

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LF Quest friends to stare at me for testing purposes.

covert blade
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@crude cradle Lil side fact, I'm not harsh towards Quest users but oftentimes simply annoyed when I meet them because I know that they can't see my avatar and can't see my full body stuff at all.

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So it's like: "Oh.... you're on a quest... you can't see anything of what I'm doing"

crystal fossil
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Oh yeah. Can they see fbt on quest compatible avatars at least?

covert blade
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They can

crystal fossil
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\o/

lunar cedar
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I found someone that made an fbt optimized avatar for quest. They did it with I think 24k polys

crystal fossil
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I'm glad.

vocal shard
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we do need a GENO from mario rpg avatar in VRchat..

crude cradle
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It's normal, but like you said, we can't really do much about it, that was one of the main things that made me not purchase a Quest, the fact that we can't see 90% of avatars rip

vocal shard
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we need a geno from marip rpg into the VRchat game..

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mario*

covert blade
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I have been looking for a good looking Quest avatar that works with full body that I can use specifically for those cases but I haven't really been lucky so far

crystal fossil
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I have quest compatible avatars with nice particle effects and FBT. I'll be able to make them feel included. \o/

covert blade
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Unfortunately the quest compatible battledroid is over 10k so uh, meh can't really use that one

lunar cedar
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If I ever find you in-game I'll let you clone it, but I'm not aware of this creator has a world.

covert blade
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Then again unless I go to the Black Cat I usually don't run into Quest users because finding Quest worlds is like finding a needle in a haystack

faint skiff
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@lunar cedar All my avatars are FBT and they all work fine in Quest. There's no difference between FBT on PC and Quest.

crystal fossil
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I don't usually visit the Black Cat.

covert blade
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Black Cat > Pug

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Change my mind

crystal fossil
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I don't usually visit the Pug.

lunar cedar
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Saigo, how many polys are you trying to limit yourself to? Ik env, this avatar was just made explicitly for showing to quest users.

covert blade
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Really the only Quest compatible world that I visit often is Murder 2 and 3, but there's barely any Quest users in those worlds

faint skiff
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Stay below 10k or you may as well not bother. Also Quest is prone to crashing, so asking people to explicitly show you is a bad idea.

crystal fossil
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Well, my main is pure black and pure white so I can safely decimate her body down.

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I assume eye tracking and visemes work?

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She's 24k by default.

faint skiff
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Visemes do, not sure about eye tracking but I assume so.

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Lack of dynamic bones is a shame and you're limited to 1 animator too which makes trying to hide "stiffness" behind pseudo animation somewhat harder but, what can you do.

covert blade
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At least it's visible at all

crystal fossil
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I wonder how limited Quests shaders actually are.

covert blade
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Very limited

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You have a handful of whitelisted shaders and that's it. Nothing fancy.

crystal fossil
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Because I'm aware of shader based dynamics.

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That's in the works at least.

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I wonder if it'd be viable for quest or if it'd still be too expensive.

faint skiff
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Nope, you have no shader choices for Quest except for some basic stock ones

crystal fossil
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I mean because that's all that's on the whitelist.

covert blade
faint skiff
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That's the complete list

covert blade
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Here's the full documentation of everything related to Quest content

crystal fossil
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But if they whitelisted a shader that could give dynamics without killing performance...?

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I know what it says.

covert blade
crystal fossil
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But a whitelist can have more things be added.

covert blade
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"If", big if that is

crystal fossil
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They'd just need to test it first.

covert blade
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I doubt they will. Anything fancy is disabled outright.

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You're optimizing for a mobile platform basically.

faint skiff
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I like how the support table can basically just be broken down to "{anything you can think of} is disabled completely in VRChat Quest"

covert blade
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Pretty much

crystal fossil
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I mean, if even IK scripts work on quest you can give dynamics that way, but that's dumb.

faint skiff
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But yeah, don't go assuming anything else will be added. As I said, it struggles as it is.

crystal fossil
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Just thinking of ways to improve experience. I know I at least like seeing things move.

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¯_(ツ)_/¯

faint skiff
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Yeah, that's why I use cloth/dynamic bones. But the Quest is basically an old phone, so it's got sod all power behind it.

covert blade
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I'm surprised that Quest even allows particles at all

crystal fossil
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Lol could make things dynamic with particle systems but that's so freaking hacky.

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Just no.

covert blade
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Really you should just be happy if Quest users can see your avatar at all

faint skiff
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You probably couldn't. The particle limit is like 200 or something.

lunar cedar
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200? Damn, can't really do much with that

crystal fossil
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So do they still have the limits in place with the cable? I'd assume so. But with the cable, the quest is more capable, no?

faint skiff
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No, that's not how it works at all

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With the cable, it becomes a PCVR headset

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So it would be treated the way any SteamVR/WMR/Oculus headset would

crystal fossil
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ouch

faint skiff
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So those users would be playing the PC version of VRChat (and need a PC sufficiently powerful enough to do so).

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Essentially it goes from being a phone to a screen when using the cable. Albeit with caveats as the cable does everything over a USB connection so it'll be compressed video, still has forced foveated rendering, still runs below the panel resolution, etc. Which is why everyone claiming the Rift S was "dead" was clearly not paying attention.

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Also the Quest is, with no exception, the most uncomfortable VR headset I've ever worn.

alpine crater
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also has less refresh rate than the rift S

faint skiff
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Yeah, 72Hz

crystal fossil
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I dunnoooo. I like the Index headset quite a bit. But I came from Rift CV1.

alpine crater
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that's a hell of an upgrade though

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literally the best headset you can get consumer-grade for the price

crystal fossil
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Right? splurged for FBT when I changed headsets too.

faint skiff
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... I'm confused, where does the Index come into this?

crystal fossil
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"Also the Quest is, with no exception, the most uncomfortable VR headset I've ever worn."

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OOF

alpine crater
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index is comfy

crystal fossil
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I read wrong.

faint skiff
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Yeah, I was gonna say, haha

crystal fossil
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I missed the "un".

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I still prefer the Touch controllers over the Index controllers though.

faint skiff
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Really? I don't. I like the fact they have a really long battery life, but that's about it

alpine crater
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every game should have physics-based interactions with the finger tracking, makes things far more immersive than just, say, a pointer

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I go back to desktop games now and find myself wishing I could just reach out and prod it

covert blade
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I'd love if I had Index Controllers as opposed to the stupid Vive ones

crystal fossil
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I wish they'd have just added 2 more triggers to the touch controllers and made them work with the index.

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¯_(ツ)_/¯

alpine crater
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oculus will never buy into valve's ecosystem or make it compatible by design

covert blade
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As if Oculus would ever consider compatibility with products made by the competition

crystal fossil
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I mean Valve should have done that.

alpine crater
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that'd be giving people an escape from the walled garden

covert blade
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Valve doesn't make Rifts though

alpine crater
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valve already have a decent tracking system

crystal fossil
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Valve made index controllers. They shoul;d have just made Touch controllers but added two more triggers. That's what I meant.

alpine crater
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for all that people complain about the lighthouses I've never had any problem and it's not any hassle to just wall mount them and leave them up

crystal fossil
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The sensors are dumb.

covert blade
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Why would Valve make Oculus style Touch Controllers when they have Index? 🤔

crystal fossil
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The index controllers are dumb.

alpine crater
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nope

covert blade
alpine crater
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they're a straight upgrade

crystal fossil
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They can't sense spread anyway. The sensors have a learning curve. Getting gestures right takes practice. Triggers are fool proof.

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The index controllers aren't so great, as someone that's used them a lot.

alpine crater
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by sensors you mean the finger tracking?

crystal fossil
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Yes.

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Even if you spam rip to calibrate, it's hit and miss.

covert blade
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The touch pad of the Vive Wands are also "fool proof", yet I hate these controllers a lot

alpine crater
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spread is about the only thing they can't do

crystal fossil
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No, trackpads are bad.

alpine crater
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I agree it's annoying not being able to do it

crystal fossil
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The index is better than wands, but they should have just done triggers.

covert blade
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Vive Wands are bad in every way imaginable but using gestures is super easy. Switching between gestures rapidly is also easy

alpine crater
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what do you mean, just done triggers?

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no trackpad or buttons?

covert blade
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No, actual buttons

crystal fossil
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Capacitive triggers instead of capacitive touch sensors.

covert blade
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Or well, you know triggers on controllers, right?

crystal fossil
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Just like touch has for middle finger but for ring and pinky also.

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It'd have been better.

alpine crater
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but that would be a digital on/off instead of the analogue curve we get with the current sensors

crystal fossil
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Not true.

covert blade
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If anything triggers are analogue

alpine crater
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try pressing a trigger with your pinky or ring finger reliably

crystal fossil
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That's determined by VRC, as fist went from analog to on or off for a bit then came back to analog.

covert blade
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You can push them halfway in and the game will detect it as half way in

crystal fossil
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They could make everything analog if they wanted.

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I understood fist being analog as being unintended anyway.

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But now it's a thing.

alpine crater
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5 triggers instead of 1 means more physical parts to go wrong anyway

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with the whateversense tracking they can upgrade it through software/firmware and make it better

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the only thing I'd like them to improve is more accurate pinky/ring finger tracking for hands that don't fill the whole controller

crystal fossil
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It's no different than the way index is able to have every finger analog. They just don't support every gesture being analog.

covert blade
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I think using gestures is the thing I'd be worried about the most when getting Index controllers but at the same time, anything's better than Vive Wands especially in VR Shooters where throwing grenades is meeeh

crystal fossil
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They could have just put the pinky and ring finger triggers on a track that could be slid up or down on the controllers grip. It would have been better.

alpine crater
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gesture toggle in VRC makes it fine in my experience

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but generally I don't use avatar gestures so my experience is different

crystal fossil
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Gesture toggle is bae. I have 7 state machines built-in in VRC now.

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I can turn on or off a prop and lock gestures.

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And it stays out/in.

covert blade
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Oh

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That's neat

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Meanwhile I have to permanently hold down the trigger if I want to do that

crystal fossil
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I use it to change my model. Any combination of two gestures and I can make my model look different. Then lock it.

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Using right hand takes priority to my advantage makes it so I can't combine things in a way I don't want either.

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It's super nice.

covert blade
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Cries in vive wands

crystal fossil
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XD

covert blade
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I mean, they're relatively okay in VRChat but try playing Onward or H3VR with those

stiff sparrow
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cries in desktop mode

covert blade
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Throwing grenades is actually stupid

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Pulling the pin seems like an easy task until you realize that you have TV remote sized controllers with a huge donut attached to the front

broken plover
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try reloading a gun in pavlov without hitting the wmr controllers together lol

crystal fossil
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Yeah, I need to change my controls for VRC, now that you mention it. Beat Saber in VRC is hard if you have to keep a firm grip on the sabers the whole time.

covert blade
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And in VRC I notice that my controllers are huge when I can't have my hands touch at all

crystal fossil
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If I let off my grip a little it lets go. Good for throwing, bad for holding.

covert blade
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I think I've slammed my controllers together a few dozen times by now

crystal fossil
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I do it on purpose to audibly VR clap.

alpine crater
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I just wish there were more big games that aren't shooters

crystal fossil
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Soon.

broken plover
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I thought i was the only one who claps like that in vr

crystal fossil
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Unfortunately, most are coming out on OCULUS store. FFS.

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Stormland looks so good.

broken plover
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ReVive

crystal fossil
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And what was the other one..

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ReVive has performance issues.

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I tried it.

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Think memory leak in VRC, but on every Oculus game all the time.

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I can't play my Oculus games since I went to Index.

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Maybe I just did it wrong, but its installations seems straightforward enough that I seriously doubt it.

alpine crater
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needs more actual competitors to stop oculus locking games to their own hardware

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and that will be a very long time off if it ever happens

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valve would lose a lot of customers if they didn't support other headsets, enough to kill their VR efforts completely

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but they're not that kind of company

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whereas facebook has every incentive to lock and secure exclusives and never support anything but themselves

crystal fossil
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Oculus is directly funding AAA VR titles I think.

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That definitely helps.

faint skiff
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Facebook controlling the publishing of games, the development of the hardware, most of the online social ecosphere and now their own VR world. What could possibly go wrong.

broken plover
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atleast theyre not controlling the real world amirite

faint skiff
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laughs in Cambridge Analytica

vocal shard
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Anyone know if you can do full body with an Index?

covert blade
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You can

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And it is just as easy as with the Vive

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The only thing you have to keep in mind that you specifically need the 2018 trackers with the blue button

faint skiff
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Anything that uses Lighthouses can use Vive Trackers for FBT out of the box

vocal shard
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Oh brilliant

hollow sluice
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not the rift

vocal shard
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Was just wanting to make sure cause theres not a lot of info specifically for the index

faint skiff
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And yeah, Lighthouse V2s only support newer hardware, V1 lighthouses support everything

covert blade
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The Rift doesn't use lighthouses

faint skiff
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@hollow sluice Which Rift uses Lighthouses?

vocal shard
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CV1 and DK2

covert blade
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Sensors =/= Light houses

crystal fossil
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^

vocal shard
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ohh

covert blade
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Completely different tech

crystal fossil
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You can use Index and the Index Controllers with Version 1 Lighthouses. And use the Version 1 trackers with it. But buying the Version two lighthouses, you have to use version 2 trackers.

hollow sluice
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yes but google still shows the rift sensors so you have be CLEAR for people that are not that educated

vocal shard
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You can mix Vive trackers with rift and wmr, but it requires having Lighthouses too and some calibration

broken plover
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or in short: Lighthouses shoot lasers at your controllers that send the info to your pc directly vs Oculus sensors see the IR light on your headset + controllers and send that info to your pc

covert blade
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@hollow sluice So how would one be more clear than that? Sorry but I can't post a wall of text every time someone has a simple question just because there's the possibility that google will show you a bad result

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The only thing that could be done is calling them by their actual name on the store "Base stations" instead of what people usually call them which is "Light houses"

hollow sluice
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as simple as clarifying that they are not the same thing or just point it out.

vocal shard
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Well, if it's as easy as just using Vive bodytrackers then I'm 100% getting an Index

covert blade
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The Rift wasn't even part of the original question though

vocal shard
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...Just as soon as I finish saving

hollow sluice
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yeah I can confirm. My BF got full body 3 days ago and he has an index. It was easy to set it up he said. the process wasnt any different @vocal shard

faint skiff
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@vocal shard Those are the same trackers you'd be using...

vocal shard
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It's all part of the same tracking system. So Vive, pimax, and index are mostly interchangeable

hollow sluice
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"Anything that uses Lighthouses can use Vive Trackers for FBT out of the box"

Someone thats not as educated might think that any outside tracking counts as lighthouses

vocal shard
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^ I assumed that

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Thank you for clarifying :)

covert blade
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That's why you should always do research before you assume something to be the case

broken plover
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Before I got vr I thought that too lol

hollow sluice
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well thats why I said it. to save someone the headache of buying the wrong thing on accident

covert blade
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They can easily save themselves by researching

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Which you should be doing a lot before buying anything VR related

hollow sluice
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true

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but like i said if you search for Rift lighthouses it still shows the rift sensors so one can easily mistake it

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I dont see it as a big deal to just say those 3 words that can potentially help someone

covert blade
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Because it requires considering something outside of what was originally part of the question

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Maybe consider that this was just not something considered when the statement was made?

hollow sluice
#

I still dont see an issue with me saying it. It didnt waste your time did it?

static crow
#

anyone has oculus rift s and wears glasses?

faint skiff
#

This whole follow on conversation has been because of what you said, so arguably yes, it's wasted all our time

vocal shard
#

it didnt waste my time, i found out new info

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and you made the choice to remain in the convo so you cant blame anyone for wasted time but yourself

faint skiff
#

Ah, gotcha. In future I'll refrain from ever chiming in. I'll let people make bad decisions all on their own.

hollow sluice
#

I am just taking a break from a commission so I am fine right now. You chose to respond to my comment. All I sad was "not the rift though" I wasnt wrong, so you could have left it at that

crystal fossil
#

oof

vocal shard
#

Well uh, thanks for the help <3

covert blade
#

Since it's spooktober, can someone recommend me some spooky maps to play?

crystal fossil
#

I got my Quest version down to 8477 without losing fidelity. I still wanted to add my bracelet though and it's 2.4k. Is that too far? 3:

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I use Lyuma's tool to make it a single mesh, but it'd push me over 10k.

covert blade
#

Anything beyond 10k is too much

crystal fossil
#

I decided to just forget the bracelet. It can be a PC secret. Which sounds mean..

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But it's okay.

covert blade
#

For as long as anything is shown at all it's better than nothing

crystal fossil
#

I just need to get my particle count down.

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Without losing too much effect.

#

Phew. I feel good.

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Effort, but it'll hopefully make someone's time in VRC better.

faint skiff
#

Just make the clothes different colours on PC and Quest to confuse everyone

crystal fossil
#

Lol

bronze vault
#

Heyhey 🙂

covert blade
#

Greetings

bronze vault
#

How have you been 🙂

pure hemlock
#

Hello wonderful people on the vrchat discord

covert blade
#

Lazy. As usual

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Hello Yin

bronze vault
#

Hey yin 🙂

pure hemlock
#

Vrchat is awesome and I like pizza

covert blade
#

How's your throat doing?

pure hemlock
#

It's actually not too bad this afternoon! Last night though it was SUPER painful. Hopefully it stays better

vocal shard
#

So I have an avatar that for some reason I can't unfavorite

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Any reason why?

full forum
#

lo

covert blade
#

Dunno but if you figure out how let me know how you did it

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This is something that I see pop up every once in a while.

vocal shard
#

It's weird cause I have it unfavorited and it's still in favorited after restarting my game

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And all my new favorited avatars don't seem to be getting added

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Is there any way to wipe all of them to see if that fixes it?

covert blade
#

Not sure. For now I would just suggest trying it on a different day

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People do ask for a way to fix it every once in a while but they only seem to be asking once and then later on it just seems to fix itself

vocal shard
#

Alrighty, If I find a way I'll come back and report it

covert blade
#

Really curious to know how exactly people get around it because I've seen several people mention it but I never found out how they solved it

vocal shard
#

Maybe it's certain avatars that cause it?

covert blade
#

My guess is that it eventually fixes itself

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Might just be that you unfavorite it locally but that information is never sent to the server for some reason

#

Favorited avatars and stuff are stored on the server

vocal shard
#

Is there any talk for more favorited avatars? I see alot of the other categories for favorited stuff like worlds and such have alot slots, It's just the avatars have so little

covert blade
#

Most likely by design to give you reasons to re-visit avatar worlds

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And / or reasons to make your own avatars, as those have no limit what so ever

vocal shard
#

Ah, makes sense

covert blade
#

Otherwise you would just go in and fav 100 avatars and never re-visit those worlds, and some avatar worlds do get updates. Besides, I think that 16 is actually plenty

vocal shard
#

so everytime I save a model, they wont save :C

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Like favoriting?

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yes

#

Same happening to me right now

covert blade
#

Huh

vocal shard
#

Might be happening to everyone?

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It's not happening to me, I was just speaking for my friend since she can't favourite avatars right now D:

glad bolt
#

Suggestion, try expanding and collapsing your favourites tab after you unfavourite the avatar.

covert blade
#

It persisted after a game restart, Ogmi

glad bolt
#

Really?

covert blade
#

It's weird cause I have it unfavorited and it's still in favorited after restarting my game

glad bolt
#

Well, that's a darn shame. Definitely a problem worth ticketing.

vocal shard
#

Yes it didn't fix after restarting, but expanding and collapsing fixed it

glad bolt
#

Well, I'm glad that sorted itself out for you, but I hope that gets tweaked soon.

covert blade
#

Huh

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Alright so expanding helps. Interesting

vocal shard
#

uh

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my friend has some symbol next to his vc symbol thing

covert blade
#

Does it look like vrcTrollThinking ?

vocal shard
#

whats that

covert blade
#

Oh that's a vote kick in progress

vocal shard
#

Yeah.. xD

covert blade
#

Open the menu and you'll see it in the upper left

glad bolt
#

Yee

vocal shard
#

It's when someone ask the worlds players to votekick a player cause hes being a pain

covert blade
#

Then it'll say who wants to kick who and you can either accept or decline it

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I'm always alarmed when I see this until I realize that it isn't directed towards me

vocal shard
#

xDD

covert blade
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Just so happens to look like a block vrcBlocked

vocal shard
#

i see that button thing, and anxiety kicks in ; "what did i do ;_;"

covert blade
#

Opens menu

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Ah, just another random persons wanting to kick other random person

vocal shard
#

Oh new problem

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relief

covert blade
#

Oh no

glad bolt
#

Oh no

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Lol

vocal shard
#

So when I collapse the the expanded avatar list, it goes back to the old favorited avatar list

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it only gets updated when expanded

glad bolt
#

Gosh, I'm not sure what else to suggest other than submitting a support ticket for this. :(

vocal shard
#

I might, for now ima just mess around with it

glad bolt
#

All righty. :)

vocal shard
#

anyone wanna be friends in vr, im just lonely XD name: 'Steven

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is this even legal?

vocal shard
#

guys

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do you know that thing in the pug the basement

covert blade
#

Does it still exist?

vocal shard
#

uh

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i just discovered it

covert blade
#

Interesting

vocal shard
#

and i threw a red ball into the void i think i broke it

covert blade
#

Because since the update the door looks different

vocal shard
#

what is it for

#

what does it do

covert blade
#

¯_(ツ)_/¯

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It's just a very weird world down in the basement

vocal shard
#

whats at the end

covert blade
#

¯_(ツ)_/¯

faint skiff
#

No, that means someone in that lobby has started a request to kick someone

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Bring up the menu and there'll be an avatar picture at the top of who they are trying to vote kick

covert blade
#

Enverex, reading old chat messages

faint skiff
#

Oh, my Discord was like an hour behind, thanks.

covert blade
#

gg

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Always have to scroll down to the bottom as Discord will usually stick to the last message that you've read so you can read the whole conversation

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I remember someone did that some time ago as well. Might've been you but I don't remember who it was

vocal shard
#

oh god i reached the bar

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finally

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so guys i found the first part

covert blade
#

@vocal shard ❓ ❔ vrcQuestion

crystal fossil
#

Wondering how well that actually works for people. I guess if people fall for it, they deserved to?

covert blade
#

@ruby needle

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Paul you snail work faster reeeee

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yeeey

ruby needle
#

shush

rare crystal
#

Don’t bully Paul

wicked mirage
rare crystal
#

That’s really cool

crystal fossil
#

Interesting.

covert blade
#

Some kind of real time translation?

wicked mirage
#

ja

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i just stumbled on it trying to find something else, pretty cool

tacit crow
#

Lol

faint skiff
#

"tight booty" alright then

covert blade
#

xD

glad bolt
#

Wh....?

tacit crow
#

Hm

little nebula
#

Anyone want to join dark waters 2 I am demigodmonk57 I am posting this activity it’s all day
Thing so join in is public

covert blade
#

wats dis?

little nebula
#

It’s a RPG pirate adventure

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Up to 3 - 5 hours I have done it but never finished it

gilded helm
#

Mlem

vocal shard
#

hello

analog hull
#

yo, can anyone tell me if its worth buying the kinect 360 for vrc?

broken plover
#

if you get it cheap enough

ruby needle
#

not really

#

if you have one it's worth giving it a try

#

but it's more or less a toy to try how FBT could be

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with a lot of issues / limitations that make it not really a everyday solution

analog hull
#

hmmmm, im poor as shit, but want FBT, so not sure what to do

faint skiff
#

If you can get one for free or already have one, then yes, otherwise no. It's jank and completely unsatisfying.

analog hull
#

and what about the kinect v2? (xbox one)

ruby needle
#

same

faint skiff
#

Same, just fractionally better at it

ruby needle
#

but it's a bit more of a hassle to get to work

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making it less worth cirThink

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since it needs that adapter thingy

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(unless i mix things up)

analog hull
#

i've heard that some 360 ones need too i think

grand zealot
#

Isn't Fullbody 300$ + a Vive? Unless it somehow works with Oculus, I fail to see how it's worth it over a kinect

broken plover
#

I have a modded one, that doesnt need the adapter. But yeah if you buy an og kinect v2 then you will also need the adapter

ruby needle
#

@grand zealot its not only remotely comparable in performance

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and no FBT works with other stuff

analog hull
#

i have oculus, so going for FBT with vive is like buying a whole new VR headset lool

ruby needle
#

you need at least one lighthouse than you can use it with any other HMD torugh steam vr

#

no need for a vive at all

grand zealot
#

Sure, but it seems a bit overpriced for how many games it supports

ruby needle
#

it's not really ment for gaming

#

more mocap or demos

grand zealot
#

I dunno why people even bother

#

Blade & Sorcery fullbody looks neat

ruby needle
#

if you have the money its a great addition

#

but costy

grand zealot
#

yeah

analog hull
#

so, even if i pay only 25€, its not worth the kinect?

grand zealot
#

not a 360 kinect

#

I've heard XBONE kinects are decent, but again, need an adapter

ruby needle
#

they work better but are still far from decent.

analog hull
#

why did i had to go to uni, and get myself poor XD

grand zealot
#

out of curiosity, why do you want fullbody?

analog hull
#

vrc mostly

grand zealot
#

If you don't mind me asking

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If you're just going to lounge around, I wouldn't bother buying it

#

save up or something

analog hull
#

alright, thanks, i think i'll follow you guys advices, and not waste money xD

grand zealot
#

Experience is really mixed in terms of kinects, and I always hear of nightmare stories of how difficult it is to setup. I considered trying it out before, but changed my mind. If you really want fullbody, you're better off saving up your money and purchasing the actual thing rather than a knockoff. Fucking expensive though, I don't know if it's even worth it just to be able to move your legs. But up to you.

analog hull
#

that's why i dont really want to spend like, 400 euros or so (base stations + sensors), just to be able to move my legs

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but i don't want headaches from kiinect either

grand zealot
#

Yeah in my personal opinion, it's definitely a dumb financial choice

broken plover
#

if you already have a vive you can get it a bit cheaper because you dont have to buy the base stations, but its still expensive

ruby needle
#

im not sure if you can call it dumb

analog hull
#

yeah, i have oculus

grand zealot
#

I know alot of people who bought Fullbody to (be more interactive and active), but every single one of them only used it to sit around and ERP. 300$+ by the way

ruby needle
#

what matters is if it gives you a better experience personally

grand zealot
#

It differs from person to person, but again

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It's my opinion

broken plover
#

for me even tho kinect is buggy and glitchy and stuff, its still a bit more immersive having your legs move like you move your real legs

ruby needle
#

well if they get a benefit and feeel more immersed its still worth

grand zealot
#

It may be because I'm poor, but spending so much money when you can already do enough in VR is a bit much. But that's just me.

ruby needle
#

considering the time invested

faint skiff
#

Hey, I stand almost exclusively with FBT (and dance, obviously).

analog hull
#

its not totally useless, as it probably makes u way more immersed, but still, too expensive for me xD

faint skiff
#

Unless it's to leg-dab on someone

broken plover
#

or do handstands in vr

grand zealot
#

I would only want it to have more functionality with standing, or use it in B&S. But even then, definitely not worth it for me.

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or kick children, either or

analog hull
#

i'm just hoping right now that they do the FBT with the cameras on oculus

grand zealot
#

sounds jank

#

What about eye tracking?

indigo fern
#

eye tracking tanabae

#

we need the smell sensor

grand zealot
#

It'd be pretty creepy

faint skiff
#

Eye tracking exists on the Vive Pro Eye

grand zealot
#

A smell sensor would be pretty cool, so I could fucking rip a huge one on somebodies face.

broken plover
#

and with modules on pimax

faint skiff
#

and the Rift S can't do FBT with its cameras due to occlusion

analog hull
#

well, they are working with the quest on hand-tracking

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so i dont see why not

ruby needle
#

different thing tho

indigo fern
#

quest constantly sees your hands because theyre in view

broken plover
#

you cant always see your body with your eyes can you? So how would the rift s track your body?

indigo fern
#

youd have to look at your feet if you wanted feet tracking

faint skiff
#

I swear that anyone that hears things about Oculus deliberately hears as little as possible so that they can completely misconstrue it...

analog hull
#

rift S has a camera pointing down too, so idk

faint skiff
#

The hand tracking only works in a tiny area infront of the headset where your hands can be seen by all 4 cameras

boreal violet
#

the most sold cartridge for the smellyvision addon would be "fish market"

grand zealot
#

what

broken plover
#

but that would just be like looking down with your eyes. You wouldnt see every movement of your hips and legs

indigo fern
#

i wouldnt say a tiny area, its pretty okay

faint skiff
#

@analog hull Just actually think about it in your head for a bit

analog hull
#

i dont see what u want me to think about, even if its not much, its still something haha

faint skiff
#

Foot tracking, think about it. Think about how that could work with face mounted cameras.

indigo fern
#

thats why all fbt solutions, even the cheapest kinect, needs the camera to be looking at you from a good angle

broken plover
faint skiff
#

Exactly

indigo fern
#

that man can touch his toes without bending over

grand zealot
#

is that shitty stickman flipping us off

analog hull
#

thing is, Rift S has a camera facing down

broken plover
#

no hes holding a rift s controller duh

analog hull
#

thats why i see hope yet

grand zealot
#

lmao

indigo fern
#

im out 🚶

faint skiff
#

It's like the Quest subreddit, it's like a cult there, everyone's delusional and has zero critical thought ability.

analog hull
#

never checked it, but nothing wrong on having hope, and its part of oculus fault too, as they are not developing stuff like the other big companies

rigid crescent
#

it's not really oculus' fault lol

indigo fern
#

i mean, hope is fine, but you gotta think about it

rigid crescent
#

it's no one's fault, different companies focus on different things for different reasons

broken plover
#

https://i.imgur.com/D4ObcT7.png another bad recreation with paint, but foot tracking might work if you just look forward all the time but obviously thats not the case

analog hull
#

So people when see upgrades likes this, they start hopping that is what oculus was working all this time on, while other developed FBT, finger tracking, etc

#

thats a big head XD

indigo fern
#

nico what the fuck is that

#

you somehow made the drawing worse

rigid crescent
#

That's the fault of people with little to no knowledge of how technology works

broken plover
#

all the cameras and where they look at

rigid crescent
#

they just get hopeful for things that are either not possible or extremely unlikely because they don't know any better

broken plover
#

I told you its a BAD RECREATION lmao

rigid crescent
#

This is barely even a tech knowledge thing.

"The cameras can't see you. You can't get FBT"

"OK but what if you could...."

indigo fern
#

it doesnt matter if the camera can see your or not
the perspective from the head makes it hard to differentiate the hips and legs anyway unless they add some heat shit like the kinect

wicked mirage
#

i haven't read anyone mention nolo vr 4 fbt, it's better than kinect but still only 180 degrees

broken plover
#

but nolo also requires a base station so it is also outside in

#

inside out FBT will not work with current technology

indigo fern
#

nolo is good for a front facing fbt

#

support for only 1 base station

#

and an extra wire for the hip

broken plover
#

its techincally vive but cheaper and frontfacing

wicked mirage
#

yeah that was a response to someone asking about the kinect earlier

broken plover
#

If they sell 1 controller all by itself then you could use that as a 3rd tracker for the hip

indigo fern
#

kind of, the hip tracker works a bit better since it doesnt drift when you lose tracking

#

they both blast the room with lasers tho

wicked mirage
#

another option is to get 2 used base stations and 3 vive controllers and convert them too trackers if you can get them cheap enough

broken plover
#

If you have vive and nolo running at the same time they might mess up with each others lasers

indigo fern
#

yea, the lasers have an invisible star wars esque battle

broken plover
#

You can also just use the vive controllers without chaning them into trackers. you just need to pair your main controllers first.

indigo fern
#

thats only good if you can find used controllers

#

and a lot more uncomfortable

broken plover
#

flextape

indigo fern
#

flextape aint gonna make it any lighter

broken plover
#

but tighter

indigo fern
#

youre gonna need flexseal

wicked mirage
#

it's annoying that there's still no cheaper 360 alternative

rigid crescent
#

so used controllers, used baystations...

wicked mirage
#

i mean 360 degrees

#

that is decent

rigid crescent
#

and then strap the wands to yourself lol

#

At that point you're still spending hundreds of dollars. probably better to just save the money for the real thing

indigo fern
#

but then you dont get to make the joke about strapping a wand to your crotch every night

broken plover
#

trackers cost 100$ each, meanwhile vive controllers cost 150$ or so

wicked mirage
#

i've seen controller go on average on ebay for half the price of a tracker, at least in the uk

#

and it's rare to see trackers being sold used

rigid crescent
#

If you're just....extremely desperate, I guess?

#

No one should be that desperate for full body though lol in the end it's still a few hundred bucks that you're spending so obviously you've got some form of disposable income to just wait and buy the real thing. it's more comfortable and more reliable in the end

wicked mirage
#

even if i had the money i don't think it's worth the price

#

for me

broken plover
#

the only time I would use vive controllers as trackers is, if I would upgrade from vive controllers to index controllers. Because I just need to buy an extra tracker for the hip and then I'm good to go

rigid crescent
#

I'd honestly just sell my vive controllers and pay the difference for trackers still lol im not coming up with some stupid solution to have the controllers strapped ot my feet nor am i dealing with the awkwardness of it

indigo fern
#

i mean, technically you could just play the game without vr anyway

#

so anything is just an extra

rigid crescent
#

At that point it's implied you've already spent the money for some form of VR

wicked mirage
#

does vrchat support more than 3 trackers?

rigid crescent
#

nope

indigo fern
#

nah, youve heard it plenty of times, people wanting to dive straight into fullbody

#

i dunno, for games, i usually say that its fine to spend at least one dollar per hour you played it

rigid crescent
#

And those people typically have the disposable income and aren't nearly as common as people wanting to upgrade lol

indigo fern
#

and if youre gonna spend thousand and thousand of hours into something, well

#

might as well have the best experience

#

like buying a nice bed, since youre gonna spend a shit ton of time on it

molten gale
#

I spent nearly 600 in vrc, and thats considered low by many

broken plover
#

I got half of that

molten gale
#

and i finally played enough that vr was worth it

#

450 hours of vrchat in vr and the headset was 450 euros

indigo fern
#

then congrats, you got your moneys worth

molten gale
#

now another 100 and fullbody was worth it

indigo fern
#

wanna farm hours by sleeping in front of a mirror?

molten gale
#

No

broken plover
#

thats how all those bragging people have a playtime of 999999 hours

indigo fern
#

nah, those do it even easier

#

have the game running in desktop while working in unity

molten gale
#

Yeah

broken plover
#

they have it running 24/7 on a 2nd pc

molten gale
#

I even do unity while in vr

#

Dunno how my pc handles that

faint skiff
#

Vives are selling so cheap now that no-one's really even buying them unless it's the full set so I've bought some v2 lighthouses just so I can sell my old Vive as a full kit. Good time for people to get into VR. £250 for a full kit on eBay these days is crazy.

lunar shell
#

Even some deals on Vive Pro headsets on ebay. Keeping an eye on it for sure.

broken plover
#

hope those good prices either stay or get even lower until january

faint skiff
#

I imagine get lower given more people upgrading

lunar shell
#

Making me wonder if I should wait on my pc upgrade or get an upgrade from OGVive.

wind totem
#

Guys

#

I have to admit something

#

VrChat save my ass from combating with commit suicide. (';

slate verge
#

while i know a few cases are like that, that is not something you said out loud

vocal shard
#

is there any map of super mario RPG in VRChat cuz i can't find any map of mario RPG

rigid crescent
#

then theres probably not one

wind totem
#

@slate verge well I'm just clearing say it

signal finch
#

my friend can't see or hear me

#

i can see them, but can't hear them 🤔

signal finch
#

also, does uninstalling vrchat cause your avatars to be deleted?

vocal shard
#

no

#

it should not cause that no.

#

the avatars you upload are stored on vrchat servers I believe, not your computer.

grizzled epoch
#

whats the minimum amount of time needed to get to a rank where you can create custom avatars

covert blade
#

@grizzled epoch Becoming verified by the trust system is based on reaching a not time based trust score, which's exact algorithm is unknown to prevent exploitation.

You presumably need to play the game in a normal manner with your VRChat account, walking around, meeting people and also making some friends. Idling won't help.
According to many responses in this discord, a rough estimate would be 20-40 hours, but big exceptions are possible.

Make sure you are not using a steam or oculus account because those can not be verified and continue playing the game until you get a notification or e-mail.

http://help.vrchat.com/kb/article/27-why-cant-i-upload-avatars-or-worlds-yet

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TL;DR there is no minimum time

grizzled epoch
#

oh.

#

alright

covert blade
#

You just play until you eventually level up

grizzled epoch
#

it was funny cause i had worked so hard

#

Was just about to finish by uploading the avatar

#

then got beaned instantly

covert blade
#

Well if you got beaned you have entirely different problems to deal with

lunar cedar
#

What's the perf rank of the avatar?

grizzled epoch
#

perf?

covert blade
#

performance

grizzled epoch
#

idk

covert blade
#

Come on

#

Apparently 5's too many

lunar cedar
#

Get it to poor or better while you still wait. Lots of people won't see you at very poor.

grizzled epoch
#

how do i reaise it

covert blade
#

The SDK will tell you

grizzled epoch
#

alright

#

ima go back to playing

covert blade
#

Also, a lot of people still see very poor avatars

#

A lot of people also still see avatars with animations and shaders, but it's still preferred to go for vrcPerfMedium or better

lunar cedar
#

I wouldn't say it's a lot unless you count desktop users in.

covert blade
#

You can have good looking avatars with vrcPerfGood perf rating

#

And yes, I include all VRChat players into this

lunar cedar
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I find vrcPerfMedium to be the best to target. I wasn't trying to be exclusive ;-;

covert blade
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Well at vrcPerfMedium you cannot be automatically hidden, still

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I guess a lot more people just had it set to very poor because it used to always completely hide the entire avatar when anything was bad about it

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So go into a public pug and set your perf settings to poor or even medium and half the avatars will turn into robots

lunar cedar
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I set it to poor and I see about 80% of people, though sometimes there will be a group of desktop users that join that all get perf blocked. I like the way it works now

covert blade
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I still have it to very poor

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Although I adjusted the dynamic bone settings so I can disable all dynamic bones if I wanted to

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Then again oddly enough I can usually live with low FPS but if it gets super bad I can still enable everything to the maximum

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Btw most avatars I use are vrcPerfGood with some of them vrcPerfMedium and only the battle droids being vrcPerfPoor due to particles

lunar cedar
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Lag makes my fbt look like garbage even if I can personally withstand the visual lag. I need to manually adjust those settings too, maybe if I can find a good setting I'll be able to reenable very poor.

covert blade
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I suppose it also depends on the instance

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If there's not a lot of people in it doesn't really matter, but overly populated instances can tank performance hard

lunar cedar
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Definitely, I get pretty sad when every available instance is 1 slot from full.

covert blade
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Make your own instance

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Especially in popular worlds it wont take long for people to join in

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The thing I'm a lot more concerned of is when I join a world and it just lags like hell until the moment that everything is that needed to be synced is synced and then it runs relatively okay

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Like I joined the VGL club (which is a really neat map and boy is it huge too) and for the first minute or so it just lags badly. Sci-Fi Complex also lags super badly as soon as I enable all the avatars but once it stabilizes, it's fine. The virtual market maps also lagged quite hard during the first minute or so to the point where I thought the game would just crash but then after that it ran just fine.

indigo fern
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i had to explore vket in private instance with a buddy

novel oyster
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Hey does anyone wanna play vrchat?

cursive coyote
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anyone here with a vive

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im having a problem where wearing prescription glasses scrathed up the lens a bit, not a big deal but i dont want it to keep doing it and cause actual damage

novel oyster
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lOl

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anyone wanna play vrchat? im lonely

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they are all toxic lOl

vocal shard
lilac flint
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Can someone tell me the fuks going on, why do I keep getting kicked from every lobby after 5 minutes.

boreal violet
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@cursive coyote have you increased the distance to lenses? On the vive and pro the round knobs on the sides can be pulled out and rotated to extend the HMD away from the face to make more room for glasses.

cursive coyote
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i have a vive normal, you cant adjust the distance

boreal violet
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yes you can

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the round bits where the headstrap attaches pull out a little and can then be turned to increase the distance

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the rubberized round bits

cursive coyote
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WOAH WHAT

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thats awesome

boreal violet
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If you arent wearing total bottle bottoms that should likely be enough to stave off further scratches but you do lose a little field of view because the lenses are further from your eyes

cursive coyote
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thats so much better

boreal violet
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id still recommend getting stick on lens protectors tho

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put those in my oculus dk2 and vive even though im not a glasses wearer

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protecting the investment so to say

wind totem
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aaaaaa

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Getting my very own laptop soon

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:3 and definitely be joining you guys

vocal shard
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yeeey

tacit crow
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Hm

wind totem
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:3

karmic mesa
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question, is the oculus go compatible with vrchat

broken plover
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no. Only rift, rift s and quest

karmic mesa
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aight thanks

tranquil hinge
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i want vr chat on my mac is there a way to do that

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for free

lunar cedar
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linux+steamplay is free, but you'd need to dual boot and I have no clue if that's possible

tranquil hinge
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ok thanks

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ive signed up for g force now so hopefully that works

mighty cradle
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any questers wanna chat?

wind totem
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Guys

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Add me as a friend on Zxry1996

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Thanks Will add you guys back

raw mango
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I'd like to but my friends are broken

tranquil hinge
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Friends.exe not working

mighty cradle
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@wind totem pc user?

wind totem
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Yes.

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And i will be playing VrChat in another 1-2 hours time so see you there! :3

wind totem
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@mighty cradle

snow wadi
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No.

queen mango
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@uneven badge Hello there. Have you read the #rules first?

snow wadi
mighty cradle
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@wind totem beep

wind totem
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sorry i can't go in to Vr Chat )::

mighty cradle
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aw

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dam

sharp aspen
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i just started usin my HMD for vrchat

mighty cradle
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which one

next cypress
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Can you use your headphones which you are using for your pc as for the oculus rift?

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And the mic attached to the headphone

boreal violet
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yeah you can set which input and output device to use, you dont need to use the built mic built into the HMD

vocal shard
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I need help with making avatars

covert blade
sharp aspen
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rift

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@mighty cradle

vapid slate
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What's that model of a cat with a big smile and it has birdfeet called?

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Has a sorta hoodie

faint skiff
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It's called "everyone uses it and now they all get disabled on sight because of the obnoxious gestures it has" 😉

vapid slate
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Okay, what's it called.

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And how's it obnoxious? It's more interesting than anime models.

faint skiff
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Something being interesting doesn't make it less obnoxious. It has large, room-filling graphical gestures, all with sound.

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Which users tend to use liberally.

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Not sure what it's called, but if you idle around the Pug for a while, I'm sure several will come by.

vapid slate
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Im not sure we're talking about the same avatar

wind totem
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GUYS

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IM IN

mighty cradle
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👀

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what u hackin

wind totem
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No

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As in i went into a different lan cafe lol

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@sharp aspen you playing?

sharp aspen
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not anymore

umbral oracle
wind totem
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Oh

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):

pseudo basalt
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Thanks for reminding me to get that

gritty turret
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E

static crow
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uhh i just got vr, how do you enter a number when you try to log in?

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i see the symbols on top instead of numbers

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pretty stupid question but yeaaaa xd

gilded heart
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I normally just take the HMD off to type the login details

covert blade
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I login via Steam since I have my account merged

faint skiff
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Merge your Steam and Oculus accounts to your VRC account, makes logging in a lot easier.

static crow
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anyone with oculus rift s can help me 1 sec?

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i got the password thing i just need a question or two

errant hare
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@static crow What is it?

split mist
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Hello

hidden flame
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Hello

hollow breach
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Back from my second soft ban let’s go unity_chan_dab

faint skiff
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Discord or game?

hollow breach
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Discord

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Never been banned in game

sand scaffold
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I think mute is broken. (Muting yourself)

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it keeps turning on on me.

slate verge
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wow rift s does work with index controllers, but very complicated solutions

vocal shard
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Yeah, you need two steam controller dongles, and a program to recalibrate the playspaces

slate verge
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Hm.....

tranquil hinge
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I got an answer from another person I would like to get multiple views is there a way to play vr chat on mac? It doesn’t work for me and I’ve tried everything. I need a free way to get it. P.s I’ve signed into GeForce now and waiting for a response

slate verge
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one of my friends uses a mac and tries to play vrc, but can't no matter what. They did had to resort to GeFroce, but even that wasn't enough. So in the end they are now saving up for a windows pc.

remote verge
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Hi everyone so I know I've messaged about this issue what I am about to mention a while ago and now that I am logging in the game, it is happening to me again.

So when I log in and entres "home" room, it works and loads normally but then when I join someone from my friend list or going to a different worlds, it takes more than 10 minutes loading and sometimes even bring me to a room that says "technical issues please find a different world".
Am I the only one having this issue?
I love Vr chat very much! Is there a way to fix this problem?
Thanks You

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thank*

slate verge
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@remote verge first you look around in this server to see if people have the same issues. With that said, if you can't load into worlds much it may be due to your internet speed.

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so if you say it takes more than 10 minutes to load a world, your speed isn't that good.

round nest
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🏢

remote verge
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I had this modem for few months now. It usually works very well. I'll see if I can manage to connect to my 5G modem

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@slate verge Thank you for your reply by the way 🥺

round nest
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dou you know the way

vocal shard
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👀

tranquil hinge
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da way 🥺

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It beautiful

vocal shard
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So um

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Does VRChat usually take up alot of space?

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It's taking up 22gb in my appdata folder

oak linden
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lol

round nest
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hi some wants to play vr chat

remote verge
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Not really surw but I think it does take a lot of space. Though mine is a gaming pc so it handles the game very well. @vocal shard

vocal shard
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My PC can handle the game just fine, just I don't got alot of space

lunar shell
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Clear your cache and you'll free up some space.

vocal shard
#

Is there a way to clear it ingame?

covert blade
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Yup

remote verge
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@vocal shard Ahhh I see. Try to delete stuff that you don't need or other files that you don't use

covert blade
#

Although I recommend having at least 20 gigs of free space just for VRChat

remote verge
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delete games**

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Clear cache is a thing on Vr chat??? :O

oak linden
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i deleted lol cuz it was taking 10 gb

vocal shard
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It's taking up 25 for me, but I'll try clearing some stuff

remote verge
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@slate verge Hi again I managed well to connect to the game again after connecting my 5G modem. Thank you for your help ❤

slate verge
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@remote verge you're welcome <3

gusty tundra
ashen wadi
#

how can i report someone for spamming join links in DMs

covert blade
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Just block 'em

ashen wadi
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so they get to stay on this server and spam other members

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gotcha 👍

umbral reef
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dm a chatmod about it

ashen wadi
#

??

glad bolt
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Or just turn off DMs for this server.

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That's what I did. 🤔

vocal shard
#

How does VR Chat gain revenue?

uneven badge
#

Wennd i dievrcSunglasses

covert blade
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@vocal shard Sponsors, basically

grizzled epoch
#

why did you even friend me @uneven badge

covert blade
#

HTC is investing a lot of money

vocal shard
#

Oh

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I don't see a list of sponsors anywhere though.

covert blade
#

VRchat is free advertisment for VR headsets and trackers for FBT

uneven badge
#

I got no vr head seat

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Plz kill me

covert blade
#

Roger ro-
Actually no

uneven badge
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Im looking for cheehe

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@covert blade

covert blade
#

@uneven badge

uneven badge
#

What

covert blade
#

What

uneven badge
#

My god is dead

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End me

covert blade
#

Negative

tranquil hinge
#

Yeah man

round nest
#

hey whatsapp men

uneven badge
#

Do u know da wae

round nest
#

where you from cobuchi?

uneven badge
#

No im in pa

round nest
#

do you know the way

uneven badge
#

Yes my brose

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Im a youtuber

round nest
#

hey you can play vr chat with me

#

?

uneven badge
#

I can't im in my grams

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I can't play her pc

tranquil hinge
#

I have to game on Mac

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Save me pls

uneven badge
#

No

tranquil hinge
#

I can’t get ve chat

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*vr

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😖

unborn ruin
#

question: is there a ruleset for this discord somewhere?

ruby needle
#

Ofc.

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Check the channel named rules

desert stratus
#

ruru wa ruru da

unborn ruin
#

OH it wasnt lit up. durr.

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makes sense that its at the top but i was scrolled down slightly

glad bolt
#

I spy Kinro

desert stratus
#

0 0`

hybrid zenith
#

guys guess what

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this quote on quote

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friend of mine

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took a avatar from me even though i said no through cloning, cause for some reason my cloning was bugged and was on even tho it was off for me

lunar cedar
#

Yea, it's very frustrating when that happens. I've seen it only once though, so it's a pretty rare bug.

faint skiff
#

It's "quote, unquote" btw, not "quote on quote" 😉

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And yes, that cloning bug happened to me in the first few days I was on VRChat, it's been around for a while.

rigid crescent
#

just go set it to private on in your sdk

faint skiff
#

I assume it's not their avatar, just one they were using

still lark
#

I've had that issue before

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Got proof too so yeah

oak linden
#

how can i get a sans avatar :v

faint skiff
#

There's literally a Sans avatar world, just use the search function

oak linden
#

thx

still lark
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Lol

vocal shard
#

my vive and full body tracking arrived

rigid crescent
dense sandal
#

Is it just me, or do some worlds load painfully slow while others load just fine?

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And by that, I mean for me, some worlds load quickly and some load at like 500 kbp/s

kind condor
#

To whoever on VRChat is 'uwu~,' I'm the guy with the Hollow Knight avatars you took pictures with earlier. :3

oblique igloo
languid beacon
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I remember when "favorite avatars" first came out and you could only have three. All three of mine were spent on various Sans avatars.

open hornet
#

Is there a way to disable hearing yourself in your headset if your avatar has a mouth?

vocal shard
#

You're not supposed to hear yourself

covert blade
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Only very few avatars have that and it has nothing to do with the animated mouth

hollow sluice
#

I had that happen on one of my avatars too. Never found how to fix it

cold talon
#

I'm still not sure why that happens

still lark
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It's because you have an invalid blend shape assigned

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In the Avatar Descriptor.

cold talon
#

Yes yes, but why does the audio loop back

still lark
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Probably breaks the lip sync script

languid beacon
#

Unity is pretty funky when things go wrong.

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Best to think of online Unity games as single player games that try to keep everyone in sync... you have an audio source for your own microphone on your avatar's head. it's just disabled for yourself only. And sometimes, due to a bug/oversight, it won't be.

open hornet
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It just happens for a lot of the avatars I use, and ones without mouths(so far) haven't had a problem

cold talon
#

That makes sense AceThink

open hornet
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Haven't done a whole lot so 🤷

wind totem
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Okay guys

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Will be in another few minutes :3

near river
#

So I noticed they added a performance setting under safety tab but my settings are on very poor and uncheck limit on dynamic bones. My question is how do i fix it people not showing up for me they are just the normal hidden avatar when i load into worlds but my settings are set for them to show normal.

vocal shard
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What about your safety setting?

near river
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they are set to show avatar known users and above but when i do load into a world they show like i have them off

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i have to go into the performance settings and switch it to like poor then accept it then switch it back to very poor

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which does not really make sense to me on why they are not loaded the first time.

uneven crane
#

Hey everyone i need your help.i cant upload my avatar in vrcsdk.its said that i have to spends more time in app.how long i have to play it?or is there anything i can do?

vocal shard
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You need to play vrchat until you reach new user rank. It's not based strictly on time, and it can be quicker or longer depending on your activity in game. Exploring worlds, meeting people, can make you get it faster. Some get it in a few hours, others days. It's different for everyone

uneven crane
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Oh ok

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Thanks for your answer

lunar cedar
#

Maybe the bot should be detecting that question at this point lol

still lark
#

It's hard to detect with decent accuracy.

umbral reef
#

Or make an command for it that atleast sends them to the official stuff for it

cold talon
#

Use deep learning for detecting intention vrcSmooSmart

still zephyr
#

i must try

cold talon
#

Scuse me, but could you not post across multiple channels?

lunar cedar
#

"can't"/"cant", "upload", "avatar" is probably good enough to find most

cold talon
#

What about other messages that just talk about it

lunar cedar
#

At least they typically start out with saying that. What other messages do you mean?

cold talon
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Ex: "I can't upload the avatar as it still has too many materials"