just dm me, im busy rn
#vrchat-general-2
coral flax
anyone need people to hangout with? my friends and i are bored.
coral flax
damn well if you ever want to just dm your name and i'll add you
inner cape
they removed the emote request from the faq, now we cant request our emotes 😔
not that any got approved, but still
snow wadi
There was such a thing? I had no idea.
inner cape
all requests got ignored for a while anyway
snow wadi
Well people have their own custom ones so I guess that's why it wasn't really a priority.
inner cape
there are a bunch of outdated emotes that dont really express anything, they could have made room for something that actually made sense, for examples mic's think emote
but they only add mods and the old ones are from those lucky people that requested it really long time ago
snow wadi
Hunn maybe they'll reconsider it later down the road?
It's not off the table yet so there might be a chance.
inner cape
they treat the old emotes as relics to the past, dunno
cold talon
They still have 146 free emote slots 
meager solstice
I mean the server is boosted to level 3
inner cape
basically theyre shilling emote slots for no reason
civic plume
My heart is brøken without vrchat
cold talon
Not scientifically possible
inner cape
jovial pulsar
How long is the VR market up for? Don't want to miss out on it
inner cape
the event is gonna be up for another 2 days i believe, counting today, but the world might still be up afterwards
slow halo
Is every market world the same?
languid beacon
No. The world itself is the same but it’s filled different avatars / ads
snow wadi
Each market world has a variety of avatars and assets for sale, so it's worth visiting all of them.
desert stratus
iirc its been extended to the 28th due to the DDOS attacks, so it may be going on to saturday
vocal shard
rawr
slow halo
Ah
I was in neo Shibuya yesterday but didn't really find any avatars I liked
Was tryingto find the Friendly Planet booth
vocal shard
I have officially fallen in love with VrChat
mighty nest
The virtual market worlds give me goosebumps 👀
rigid crescent
I was super excited when I explored them, more than i had been for a world or VRC in general in a long time
atomic fjord
I am really missing some male avatars :/
rigid crescent
Some of those are/were in V-Kets :3
Like the Nia duo and Tachibanas
I really like the Tachibanas actually
hmm that list is missing a lot of male booth avatars
atomic fjord
lol do they really charge 8k yen for that piece of ... well you know? https://www.vrcw.net/product/detail/874
ivory axle
I like the style
rigid crescent
I this it's pretty good, and you're getting an extremely customizable model
ivory axle
Ive seen a lot worse sold for a lot more than that
rigid crescent
It's not very common that it comes with a nudebase
So yeah, I think 8k is a pretty fair price
indigo fern
atomic fjord
wow
rigid crescent
Even the hair is customizable
well removable
without a huge hole being present in the head
I think it looks really good now that im scrolling through the pics
ivory axle
Anything can be customisable as long as you know how to do the right things
But yeah i do like the male model
rigid crescent
Well easily customizable
It's a lot more of a pain to deal with a massive hole in the back of the head after hair removal
ivory axle
I guess its just me then
rigid crescent
or only being able to work with the hands and head as opposed to having a body with skin underneath
you cant tell me that's even close to the same lol
ivory axle
No its not easy but yeah its not like life threateningly difficult
indigo fern
I mean, if the skin under the clothes is removed, pretty much the only thing you can do is a head swap
rigid crescent
So if you only got the clothed model with hands and feet (with shoes) and head, you'd have next to no issue making a version with rolled up sleeves? lol
or a version in a tank top
inner cape
thats not very cash money of you to say, avatar rapair'er
rigid crescent
or a version with an open shirt and exposed chest, or a version with shorts
ivory axle
Well you gotta be flexible, you gotta learn at some point so
indigo fern
Rapair'er
rigid crescent
Without kitbashing you're working with, LITERALLY nothing
ivory axle
Like im not trying to say its easy
rigid crescent
and without sculpting new parts altogether
atomic fjord
That is such a basic model I'd pay him 15 EUR if he made it for my game lol
rigid crescent
You'd never find anyone to do this much work at that price point lol
atomic fjord
LOL
indigo fern
He allows commercial use lmao, you won't find that for 15
atomic fjord
He does?
indigo fern
Yea, scroll down
rigid crescent
Most Booth models do to an extent yeah
atomic fjord
Oh just saw that
rigid crescent
Like who would you actually find to pay to make a model that not only has a clothed version, but a nude base as well?
Those can cost even more than a clothed one
atomic fjord
Obviously, duh. It's not THAT much work, really
rigid crescent
what lol
atomic fjord
Yes lol
ivory axle
Wat
rigid crescent
I'll need some links to anyone who does work that cheap, I'd like to buy something too
Maybe a few, shit
ivory axle
I do but cant advertise here
rigid crescent
that's less than 20 USD for an entirely custom sculpted base body and clothes as well
atomic fjord
Look in the gaming industry. If you really think that your work will be as worshiped as in VRChat ... poor guy
ivory axle
Jesus lolno youre asking for the world
tame cove
Anyone down to play sometime? Trying to get to user rank to upload a world
rigid crescent
The "gaming industry"?
ivory axle
@Mythic#4028 yeah sure ill be on tonight
atomic fjord
Do you know what that is @rigid crescent ?
rigid crescent
You realize those typically cost you hundreds if not more whne done by pros right
ivory axle
@atomic fjord it is impressive depending on the sector
rigid crescent
or people in the"gaming industry"
Who was it that got one recently....
Started with an A
@languid beacon
ivory axle
My brother does vehicle design for F1 games in the games indistry and he thinks my character developement is impressive
atomic fjord
Oh god no please don't tell me that you still think that there's a lot of money to be made with like nice work hours etc
rigid crescent
Didn't you get something recently by someone who worked on modeling for the new Spyro remake?
atomic fjord
Yeah, if you're lucky af maybe
ivory axle
My brother makes me assets like guns for vrchat
atomic fjord
Working in the gaming industry is super stressful and doesn't pay of that well
rigid crescent
maybe it wasn't them, but one person got a custom model from someone in the "gaming industry" and it cost them quite a bit
ivory axle
He has helped made F1 2018 and Dirt Rally
@atomic fjord no it does pay well but not as much as youd expect.
atomic fjord
Being "in the gaming industry" wasn't meant to be something special 😛 I think you misunderstood me
indigo fern
🅱upper cirno :kek
atomic fjord
@ivory axle compared to the work you have, it does not and that's the general trend. Those are just statistics
Don't try to SJW over statistics pls
rigid crescent
The point is I'd like you to find someone willing to do this for cheaper than 20USD, which is what you implied you could do
Modeling costs a lot more than you seem to think lol
atomic fjord
Wtf are you talking about? There are soooo many jobs but people just don't take them because they pay way too few money
rigid crescent
When I can find dozens of examples of the exact opposite
ivory axle
@atomic fjord im not trying to sjw lol im legit just voicing what my BROTHERs experience is because he has a job i it
atomic fjord
@rigid crescent the thing is, that model wasn't created on contract, instead he made it and decided to sell it. That's a different story
rigid crescent
But you implied a model "on contract" would be cheaper...
ivory axle
Ive heard people like yours opinion too many times "pays too little" nah depends what company your working for, what role you have etc
rigid crescent
that and not freelancing when you work for a large company seems kind of silly as an artist, plenty are still allowed to and work for siht like disney and sony
its not liek youre ONLY allowed to work for them most of the time
atomic fjord
@ivory axle one guy actually having a good job in the industry doesn't represent the industry at all. Just because I had a bad job in that industry doesn't mean that every job in that industry is bad 😛
@ivory axle you could make a fortune if you're cleaning windows in the right company in the right position. That doesn't mean that cleaning windows is a very well paying job. Even though it may be. I don't know. It's pretty dangerous
@rigid crescent when did I every imply that? Quote me on that one
Stay on topic
rigid crescent
AH you're right you said you'd pay him 15 dollars to do it, which no one would take
Then laughed when i said youd never find anyone to do that much work for 15 eur
indigo fern
You just rewrote what they said but a long winded version, they literally wrote depends on the company/role
rigid crescent
So again, can you find someone to do that much work for 15 EUR or did I just misunderstand that
atomic fjord
No, finding just one that would sell such a basic avatar he made for 15 EUR is pretty hard. There are usually a few thousands who are trying to sell their avatars
Not just one. So yeah, you understood me right. You can't always be that picky in that sector
ivory axle
Its very ambitious to find someone to do it for that little money
The cheapest ive seen is 15 but its not custom/from scratch and very much scuffed. From my past experiences too.
atomic fjord
A lot of people are happy if there is any interest in their avatars at all. Again, this guy is not creating the avatar on contract. It's something he created and decided he wanted to sell it
stray sundial
convert 15 eu to dogecoin
rigid crescent
Oh jeez, he does offer way more leniency than most Booth avatars now that I look at his terms
quick kayak
Has anyone reported memory leak recently? yesterday I crashed twice, when I checked vrc processes, it was using over 11GB of RAM.
ruby needle
This is not uncommon, especially after a longer session
rigid crescent
I think its been reported a lot
frozen garden
from what i can tell memory leaks are chronic in vrchat
polar jasper
If you stay in a world long enough, the memory can ramp quite high. Just switch world once or twice and it should go down
Especially if you visit the Vket worlds at the moment, their usage is very high
quick kayak
Yeah I was at the pug, people changing avatars left and right like they were showing off something lol.
rigid crescent
Breh they shouldve got someone to optimize the V-Ket worlds
quick kayak
I ask because I think I saw they addressed the leak in one of the recent updates to VRC iirc, or it was just one of the many "I know stuff" in vrc that just talked about it.
rigid crescent
Most of the JP stuff I see is so poorly optimized lol
inner cape
thats ironic
quick kayak
it is lol
rigid crescent
I feel like the worlds were commissioned by someone that doesnt make VRC worlds, they just made the world within the constraints
quick kayak
Btw, the Rift S vrcover "cover" release, it's just the cotton thing that goes over the interface.
polar jasper
I can link you a world that is larger if you want
rigid crescent
World size and world optimization aren't really the same thing
quick kayak
File size doesn't really matter, they can still optimize it
rigid crescent
You can have a 500MB world that runs like a dream and a 2MB world that tanks you upon joining
Well, performance optimization. I guess it's still a type of optimization
quick kayak
they can have multiple LOD options, culling things out, etc. which is what should be done.
rigid crescent
Yeah, I don't think LODs even exist remotely in those worlds
I don't see people use LODs much in VRC in general tho
polar jasper
The Great Pug has LOD items in it
rigid crescent
oh you're right it does, those were added a while back werent they
quick kayak
Mine is, it's one that just has mountains, nice sun and breath of the wild music.
I wouldn't say it's LOD, more like aggressive culling on stuff.
rigid crescent
the only other one i know for that has them for a fact is the map used for an RP and that's because it's massive and needs every bit of optimization it can get lol
polar jasper
The reason majority of users don't use it is because they don't want to spend the time it takes to create 3 different quality levels for assets
quick kayak
I mean yes, but then there's just decimating, which does it for you.
Take this nice rock and lower the polys, then again. LOD1/LOD2
polar jasper
Try convince someone to do it then 😛
quick kayak
I.. i....... no u. 😄
rigid crescent
Doesn't creating the LOD automatically make the 3 different levels? or maybe that's a plugin i see
atomic fjord
Automatically decimating them without screwing up is very difficult so I don't think so
It's possible tho
polar jasper
Default Unity LOD adds 3 different levels, but they will all be the same because it's only 1 asset that is used
atomic fjord
^
rigid crescent
Oh, I'm guessing my friend uses something else then
https://assetstore.unity.com/packages/tools/utilities/amplify-impostors-beta-119877 oh i think its thist
atomic fjord
It is indeed possible but doing it automatically could result in some weird results
polar jasper
This one does it pretty well, but it costs you $60
While, all you really need to do is add a decimate modifier in Blender and adjust the levels, move verts if needed and save
rigid crescent
Yeah he does a lot of world stuff so i guess it was worth it, or someone else paid for it lol
when you're working with a million objects its probably worth it
like i think almost everything on the map has an LOD
within reason
atomic fjord
Lol while it's not exactly what I thought about, this is what I mean with "difficult but possible" 😄
frozen garden
bruh the name of my substitute teacher is literally "mrs tupper"
molten gale
Lmfao
languid beacon
@rigid crescent yeah I have a avatar commission from the Reignited NPC character designer. Was very lucky to get him. Still in the queue for it. Only seen a WIP so far. He’s doing the character in my PFP.
snow wadi
Is he doing it spyro style?
languid beacon
Not quite, he’s mostly just going by reference
rigid crescent
I saw a Klonoa they did not too long ago
languid beacon
Yup you got the right guy then
I commissioned it first-most for 3D printing because I want a desk model of my character but requested permission for use in vrchat as well just for fun, but I’ll have to rig it myself, he doesn’t do rigging
cold talon
but will he give you a low poly version of the model?
languid beacon
X doubt
cold talon
languid beacon
Getting it game ready and rigged will probably be on me. Otherwise it would have probably quadrupled in price. I can do all the technical stuff myself, I lack artistic talent
rigid crescent
Ouch is rigging that much?
languid beacon
Rigging is the least fun process of 3D modeling
rigid crescent
I guess if you already know how to do it yourself, you're all set to begin with
languid beacon
It also normally goes model > UV > Optimize for real-time > rig. You can’t do rig first, and he’s just delivering a high poly zbrush model. It’s posable in zbrush since it has powerful deform groups, but it’s not rigged in the armature sense. Going from zbrush to real-time rigging is super time consuming and expensive because of how long the process takes. It’s stuff I can just whittle away at myself
cold talon
its just that reducing it to a reasonable amount of polygons will be a nightmare since models for 3d printing are very high poly, like VERY
languid beacon
Yeah. But if I asked him to do all that I’d probably be paying 2K or something. Plus it’s not the kind of work he does. He was their character designer. Someone else did the rigging and optimizing and such.
In his portfolio all the stuff is posed but it’s not rigged, zbrush can just deform-pose as if something is clay
hot sentinel
If anyone has a discord server they would like me to join please feel free to send me an invite! Especially if you're a quest world builder
rigid crescent
Check #community-servers-old
static rampart
@slim temple @rigid crescent vrchat recommends 50 calls on quest worlds and thats very conservaive, many worlds you see on quest and even run well when in it alone are in the 100 region even, its all about reusing materials in a smart way. Basically if you keep an eye out on drawcalls, bake lights and watch out for audio sources you already won.
rigid crescent
static rampart
the quest has actually pushed people into doing the easy optimizations and thats really all you need at the end
rigid crescent
oh, right we were talking about that
vocal shard
static rampart
what i did on Atoll of Ether was a bit overkill, but damn if the results werent great for pc and quest
slim temple
absolutely. And it's a great looking map
static rampart
thx for pinging me, we gotta convert people to do some basic optimizations
languid beacon
Honestly I wish PC worlds had half the attention to optimization that Quest worlds have. I'm on minimum desktop specs, and they really do help (those avatars with 50 materials really do eat my frames)
covert blade
Needlessly excessive amount of mats
For something that could be improved within 5 minutes
languid beacon
The problem is they claim it's harder to modify after being atlassed, because they don't know how to paste into quilted textures 😦
I will give them that it makes setting up a normalmap atlas a pain
since cats can't do that
slim temple
sure it can. Just exclude the things you don't want alased, then atlas the normals, then bring that into unity
slow halo
My main avatar has under 6000 polys and 5 materials. She's pretty barebones it turns out
wanton pier
Hey, is there any type of shortcuts for emotes on desktop?
inner cape
hand gestures or emotes?
wanton pier
Emotes
snow wadi
Shift Key + F1-F8
wanton pier
Not hand gestures...
snow wadi
For gestures.
inner cape
for emotes, then no
snow wadi
And for emotes you need to use the menu.
wanton pier
Oh, alright then, thanks for the info! Atleast i learned how to use hand gestures.
broken plover
Even VR users have to use the menu... theres no way around that
snow wadi
Mhm!
snow wadi
_>
lunar cedar
I see you're embracing your tag now
inner cape
🙂
snow wadi
toxic vapor
hugs Qhala
Hey-o. Just saw your name pop up. Thought i'd say hi. ^^
lethal summit
bronze cape
Soooo, what's this hubbub about someone getting banned from VRChat for supporting the Hong Kong protests?
vestal pier
Cant discuss politics here 😅
ruby needle
If someone got banned for that than it is because they have havily pushed that political topic in a conversation or something and someone didnt like it.
Politics should be kept out of the game, the rules also say that.
Regardless, this is not the place to talk about bans.
broken quartz
Would anyone like to do me a massive favour? D;
bronze cape
It's not exactly a controversial topic though
Anything that even vaguely seems like the VRChat team supports police brutality is one helluva bad look and should really be addressed
vestal pier
Cant discuss politics here 😅
ruby needle
Soul please 
compact river
snow wadi
God dammit, soul.
compact river
broken quartz
Anyone with a drawing tablet want to draw me a png heart please with transparency D;
uncut gorge
It's sad that people can't hold political conversations these days. I'd like to think we're all mature enough to hold discourse with people who might disagree with us, but you can see, especially in current media, that this is not the case.
compact river
snow wadi
Soul! Draw a fantastic looking heart!
snow wadi
Draw the heart in the shower D:<
compact river
Nu
uncut gorge
checking discord in the shower?!
snow wadi
Waterproof cellphones, for your discord needs.
molten gale
Samsung galaxy edge?
compact river
snow wadi
An edge for 50 bucks?
molten gale
yes
compact river
Walmart
molten gale
with contract
compact river
Op
snow wadi
Oh contract phones.
compact river
No contract
snow wadi
I never buy contract phones.
compact river
"Free"
compact river
Back 2 hair washing
molten gale
Currently stuck at hard difficulty songs
compact river
How
hollow sluice
@broken quartz what favor?
lunar cedar
I practiced angel voices to train up to expert. Then EPIC to get to expert+.
broken quartz
Just to draw a heart with transparency
cause the one i used my mouse for is too neat
ocean bramble
Oh hey, Dynamic Bones is available in the new Unity humble bundle: https://www.humblebundle.com/software/unity-2019-bundle
robust juniper
and uMotion, which is pretty neat
vestal pier
Playmaker is in there too 😔
snow wadi
They're targeting VRChat...clever bastards.
robust juniper
praise be to almighty udon
snow wadi
I would see this as a great starter pack for VRC content creators.
cold talon
snaps art HD 
snow wadi
It's in FULL HD!
rigid crescent
Tree creator! holy shit
cold talon
snow wadi
Actually this is pretty smart move.
vestal pier
Alot of this stuff doesnt work in vrc though, so not much of a starter pack
desert stratus
stuff that i care about that i can actually buy? holy shit
rigid crescent
why does the unity asset store website fuck my browser up
snow wadi
Ah chrome tends to be a bit finicky with that site, I use opera to get my unity assets.
cold talon
well what works form there is dynamic bone and both snaps arts 
snow wadi
Just fork out 14 bucks and viola!
rigid crescent
what doesnt work with vrchat?
cold talon
15* if you want all of the stuff
vestal pier
the ui stuff
rigid crescent
tree maker alone is worth
vestal pier
easy mobile stuff too
snow wadi
I mean 13.5 bucks and you get more than your money's worth.
vestal pier
There are free tree making tools, but yeah.
rigid crescent
it doesn't work....yet
vestal pier
absolutely worth
narrow mirage
does vr chat work now
snow wadi
Yup, you should be able to hop on.
Later this evening I'll hop on VRC and explore the rest of the markets.
rigid crescent
i have so much to do today before my flight tomorrow morning ;-;
snow wadi
Where are you flapping your wings to? o.o
snow wadi
Oooh \o.o/
rigid crescent
i gotta take some pics ingame for some fun twitter posts while im gone and then visit the rest of vket since itll be over by the time im back, even with the extensio
snow wadi
I'll be popping in about an hour for the market, first I'll join some friends for a couple of games.
ruby burrow
Oh, M-Tree works from inside Unity? That seems worth while then.
I already have Speed Tree, but that's all external.
narrow mirage
So anyone know why unity corrupted my vrchat
narrow mirage
I downloaded unity and downloaded the vrchat sdk
Opened unity created a character file and opened it in the sdk. Figured all was good. then opened vr chat and it would constantly crash. no matter whay i did it wouldnt open so i had to redownload it...its happened to me twice
lunar cedar
Are you sure that's not a crasher avatar?
narrow mirage
tbh not sure what that means
ruby burrow
I mean, Unity and VR-Chat themselves don't interact with each other in any way at all, outside of uploading content from Unity.
narrow mirage
ik thats why i find it so weird
ruby burrow
Nothing you do in Unity should have any effect on the game, unless you're loading some kind of bad avatar or world.
ruby burrow
And VR-Chat crashes at launch? Before login?
narrow mirage
didnt even open
Id click the shortcut. then i tryed to exicute the .exe still wouldnt work
languid beacon
VRChat has been bringing many new people into unity development
Unity knows that :p
near marlin
Anyone have experience with using an Xbox One Kinect for Full Body Tracking? I'm having some issues.
lunar cedar
Check with fbt chat
near marlin
Will do, thanks.
fast dawn
anyone else getting infinite loading loops?
final abyss
ye im getting timed out
blazing hare
thick scarab
same
molten gale
Can anyone tell me about psvr fbt?
lunar cedar
Does that even exist? A quick google search says no lol
molten gale
It does
lunar cedar
link?
lunar cedar
Since it's visual based tracking without SLAM, probably worse than a 360 kinect
vocal shard
nudes?
lunar cedar
Sounds like you've been bamboozled, but idk maybe Sony has some novel tracking system (hint: they don't).
You can't overcome hardware limitations using software. At least not without having some serious side effects (see 360 kinect's coordinate space)
rigid crescent
lol as good as trackers
winged schooner
Erh, getting constant black screens trying to load in o.O
Anyone else having this issue?
rigid crescent
if anythig else was as good as trackers and cheaper we'd all be using it
narrow mirage
Im ganna end up using my xbox one connect
lunar cedar
do you have lighthouses?
vocal shard
PSVR/Psmoves work really well for fbt, and give full 6dof tracking like Vive pucks. The problem is you need a specific PSmove that hasn't been updated. Those are rare and expensive. Otherwise any other psmove will drift badly
molten gale
huh
lunar cedar
looks like a pretty limited fov too:
https://github.com/psmoveservice/PSMoveService/blob/master/src/psmoveservice/PSMoveTracker/PS3EyeTracker.cpp
vocal shard
In short, psmove fbt works well, but is too much of a Hassel and gamble to get working since most of the Psmoves had the magnometer deactivated or removed
lunar cedar
What kind of info though? Some answers could be in the code
molten gale
Like what i need and how well it works
rigid crescent
I've noticed anyone that uses non-trackers always seems to think their fullbody tracking is just as good
lunar cedar
The issues section will tell you how well it works. As for what you need, that may or may not be in issues somewhere
https://github.com/psmoveservice/PSMoveService/issues
rigid crescent
and anyone who has used both says its trash
lunar cedar
idk, come meet me in-game and tell me if you can tell the difference for my tracking
molten gale
Ill be using k2vr
inner cape
kinect = bad or mediocre at best
lunar cedar
oh
inner cape
thats not great either
molten gale
Better than kinect
lunar cedar
https://github.com/psmoveservice/PSMoveService/issues
That's just users asking questions and giving complaints
molten gale
and the discord isnt helpinf
lunar shell
Looks too complicated. Glad I got a Vive and trackers.
molten gale
Wont buy vive
lunar cedar
There's the magnetometer being disabled issue jamie mentioned. No solution to that problem
https://github.com/psmoveservice/PSMoveService/issues/623
molten gale
Too short of a battery life, too expensive
lunar shell
5 hours is enough for me.
molten gale
I play 10+ hours
vocal shard
Psmove isn't worth it imo. I tried and there were just too many variables
lunar shell
Well that's good for you then.
lunar shell
Yes mkay. I still like my Vive. Didn't ask anyone else.
lunar cedar
k4a tracking is nice, but it's uncertain when there will be a full release
molten gale
wat
lunar cedar
the 4th gen kinect
It's expensive, a dev kit, and the body tracking isn't finalized yet
But you can mesh sensors together, put it on tripods, and body tracking is quite good for a prerelease.
molten gale
I just want to know how well xbox one kinect fbt works
lunar cedar
180 degree tracking only, feet orientation tracking is almost nonexistant, and you can't lay down for xbone kinect
molten gale
Well uh better than nothinf
lunar cedar
true
sage pewter
Are we getting doxxed again?
thin blaze
Games down for me too.
covert blade
5840 users I don't think so
empty hamlet
My offline friends are all gone! I logged in as did one of my friends though
inner cape
is it like a 
slow halo
yessir
inner cape
thats a vote kick message
basically someone trying to votekick a person and you vote yes or no
you should see it above the quick menu
inner cape
molten gale
Guess im getting a xbone one kinect
lunar cedar
hopefully you don't rip in piece with it 😉
molten gale
wdym
lunar cedar
probably good pick one up at a gamestop for really cheap if there's one near you
vocal shard
Yeah I still have the Kinect. Saving for trackers eventually
lunar cedar
It's the version that doesn't need an adapter
molten gale
Yeah p sure
vocal shard
The Xbox one Kinect and v2 for windows are the same other than one needing an adapter. I soldered my own adapter for my Xbox one kinect
lunar cedar
best as in plug'n'play
vocal shard
Yeah
slow halo
There's real-ass bullying happening in game
a guy looking like a goose with arms and a character from Xenoblade Chronicles 2 are giving a guy grief for being furry
Well that was weird
that was a weird crash
pseudo basalt
But unlike real life you can mute and block people
slow halo
oh yeah
yeah
I blocked them, but then unblocked the one who didn't get kicked or leave and asked why the hate, but then I crashed pretty hard
pseudo basalt
Classic vrc
slow halo
yeah
I guess, of all places, I expected furry hate the least in VRC
Like... It's Vrchat
earnest vortex
@vocal shard come to the shiba community. we are all doggos and are fun group
hollow breach
It’s the internet lmao what do u expect
slow halo
holy crap VRchat is rough on my computer
my browser crashes and discord crashes and the game crashes
shit
Aww, can't get back into the pug I was in
guess story time is over
slate verge
just need a gaming pc and you're good
heavy galleon
oh my god i just logged into vrchat for the first in a while and the market places thingys are amazing jesus
and it sucks tho cause ive got a radeon VII but it runs HORRIBLE with VR for some reason
slow halo
I've heard VRC is pretty CPU-greedy so definitely that's my bottleneck
it's what I get for cheaping out when I built it!
heavy galleon
tbh i dont know what mine is ive uninstalled windows, graphics drivers, oculus, not overheating, getting plenty of power (1800 PSU) and everything else is good. maybe just a bad or faulty GPU
VR runs at 45 FPS 80% of the time and im surprised i havent thrown up
lunar cedar
Do you have anything to show desktop while in game?
slow halo
yikes
heavy galleon
sometimes games wont even load and my monitor shuts off for a little before turning back on, GPU spikes to 100 for a little for no reason and then drops to 0. Its very high using the 3D during VR, not saying it should but the graphics card is VR ready so idk
shouldnt*
slow halo
My monitor was doing that shut to black for a second thing too
first time I've seen it
sweet nebula
Not even a gaming computer will save you in VRChat, sadly. I'm running a 2700x and a 1080Ti, and those marketplace maps run terribly for me.
lunar cedar
does your GPU not have the external PSU pins plugged in?
slow halo
but it only happened when I was fussing around with my browser window, so that probably didn't help
heavy galleon
i have no clue lmao ill have to check because my father put a lot of it together, but even in other games like blade and sorcery and zero caliber it struggles
heavy galleon
the Ryzen 7 2700 is amazing though im grateful thats doing its job, never had a problem with it.
stray sundial
2nd gen is good
3rd gen is solid
@heavy galleon check drivers but I would run a benchmark with 3dmark. It could be a faulty gpu. If so, you should be able to RMA it
neon quartz
I think i knocked something loose in my headset. can anyone help
lunar cedar
Like you pulled the cable?
neon quartz
so, i think i pushed down on the front part a lttle too much
right now it's working, but the screen is flickering if i touch the front in the wrong place
lunar shell
Oh no oh no.
bronze fossil
D: rip what kind of headset
lunar cedar
Not sure any simple fix for that like a cable pull (not that a resolder is particularly easy, but definitely simple)
If it's still newish then RMA?
dim wasp
main pike
is there still VRC problems going on? im loading stuff so fucking slow
languid beacon
I have a 5 year old pc with a gtx 970 and I run VRChat just fine on my Rift
You don’t need a super expensive computer. Anything that would be considered high end 5 years ago is probably fine
silver pier
What cpu do you have?
vocal shard
people avatars not loading for me, i have completely deleted my locallow data still hasnt fixed it.
copper crow
I have been stuck in the login/loading screen now for 15 minutes, game is just black and gives me the error sound now and then... emptied the cache, restarted computer and router... any tips?
vocal shard
happened to me after I was "disconnected from VRChat" I havent tried re-logging yet
copper crow
meh. Im giving up for the night. still wont let me log on.
vocal shard
everythings fine for me now
civic plume
poor game getting attacked again
cold talon
umbral reef
Looks to function pretty alright
hollow sluice
Why dont the devs just reset the router smh
umbral reef
Just give it more wham
fluid bloom
just turn vrchat off and on again
fluid bloom
umbral reef
We already got zoom shaders so now just need the optimized rendering part
hollow sluice
Yes
solid needle
hey guys! does anyone know when the Vket event closes? I remember it's 25th, but what time?
umbral reef
I heard the end date got pushed back because of the server problems they had
But by how much no idea
solid needle
oh, that's great, thx! so it'll prolly be open tomorrow
covert blade
Huh didnt know it was time limited but I guess I can explore some more then
The maps run like potato though at least for me
cold talon
Pretty potatoes 
lunar shell
Oh good. It'll be nice to test more avatars.
rigid crescent
https://booth.pm/en/browse/3D Models?sort=new i keep this link favorited, it's every booth model listed by newest
you can change the order of course. i obsessively check it multiple times a day 
cold talon
Make a script to check for new models 
wild pewter
How do you show up to these event?
native eagle
https://i.imgur.com/CJxoTd2.jpg
Anyone know where I can find this avatar
mighty glen
anyone else having issues connecting to vrc?
slow halo
@native eagle I'm using the less puddle-like version of that one. I've been called a condom twice, a penis three times, and a weird banana once
People can't appreciate the appeal of peaceful fox tube
faint skiff
I'm sure there's kink artwork of "fox tubes" somewhere
outer cedar
Oh no
wanton pier
is there a way to add my steam friends on VR Chat
Its my first time playing with friends, usually i just wander about and play games.
broken plover
No you have to add them In VRChat
clever wedge
I cant get into vr chat
slim temple
don't forget there's also the mini-expo of people who didn't make it into vket
clever wedge
Hi i am new to this chat
and do u have to have a vr chat account to be on this sever or...
not
faint skiff
Nope, although not much point being here if you don't play 😛
clever wedge
Oh ok...
ivory axle
what up gamers
shell siren
Dude someone willing to chill with me and show me some stuff? It‘s like my first day on vr chat today
ivory axle
when
clever wedge
Hiya guys
ivory axle
fuck
ivory axle
i meant @shell siren
clever wedge
Oh im sorry.....😔
ivory axle
lol its fine
ivory axle
bst
clever wedge
Huh? Sorry not good at those types of short thinigies
ivory axle
British summer time
wanton pier
I am having trouble finding my steam friend in vrchat, any suggestions?
clever wedge
Im sorry i dont know...
ivory axle
make sure u look em up properly
ivory axle
w a t
ivory axle
yes you go on social then just look em up
clever wedge
Im not much help here but i just like having people to talk to this late at night
sorry.......
silent whale
this isn't really a help channel anyways, don't sweat it
atleast not specifically anyway
clever wedge
Ok thx
Im just new here so im anxious people will get mad for me being here not just not helping
vocal shard
😡
clever wedge
Huh... :sad:
silent whale
that was me at first honestly
clever wedge
vocal shard
ANGERY
silent whale
why
vocal shard
im kidding i am not angery
clever wedge
Oh.... 😓 u scared me
vocal shard
no worry fren
clever wedge
This is so cool because i have so many frends to talk to this talk to this late at night
Oh do u know heyimbee? The vr youtuber
silent whale
i know of them but i haven't watched them
clever wedge
U should watch her b-cause she is good
and funny
oh and i sent u a frend request on discord
silent whale
i accepted already
clever wedge
Ya sure
shell siren
Alright bro but i dunno how everything works
shell siren
Aight man so lets meet up somewhere
shell siren
In vr i mean
clever wedge
Im really sorry and i apoligize but....
shell siren
Then i get to learn how everything works hahaha
shell siren
Ohh
clever wedge
Yeah... huff
silent whale
are you just not getting the emails? or is it something else
clever wedge
Im not gettin the emails
silent whale
check the spam folder, I've had legitimate verification emails end up in there
clever wedge
I have and it will not work
silent whale
hmm
clever wedge
i am so annoyed and sad
silent whale
i can't think of anything else except server problems or they're just taking a while
😔
clever wedge
And i really wanna play
shell siren
I dunno maybe i can create you an email and give you the password and shit hahahaha
cold talon
If both steam and vrc failed to send the email, its most likely your email, are you sure you provided the right email address for vrc/steam.
If you checked the email and all seems fine, I would recommend making a Gmail account instead to save you the trouble.
molten gale
Is there any way to copy and paste links into vrchat while in vr?
And by that I mean steamvr and oculus app
Cuz I dont want to get up every time I wanna play a new vid
broken plover
The only way is to press CTRL + V. Idk if theres any other way but I always use my keyboard when I want to paste a link
vocal shard
on oculus you can open the virtual keyboard to Ctrl C + Ctrl V
broken plover
I guess in steamvr you could also do that but I forgot if SteamVR keyboard has CTRL button on it
vocal shard
its pretty annoying these kind of stuff to be honest...we are in the era of virtual reality but basic stuff is harder than before
If you have Advanced Settings installed for SteamVR inside "Utilities" it has combination for copying and pasting
molten gale
Managed to do it
vocal shard
welcome to the future
vocal shard
i know right! basic stuff is way harder on vr
molten gale
Managed to add a video player to my world
slow halo
Need more minority report style virtual windows we can open as an overlay
Like.. augmented virtual reality
molten gale
It even saves your volume settings over different instances
vocal shard
I mean you are not really supposed to search for videos outside of VR, you should be able to do that within the app
And i remember how we got that feature of being able to search for videos on one of the versions but then they had to take down Webpanels and it stopped those from working
molten gale
What else could I add to my world
cold talon
we had working arcade cabinets with webpanels 
tepid spindle
had
cold talon
tepid spindle
molten gale
No answer? Aighty
cold talon
i was the one who made the arcades ,it hurt when the panels got removed
tepid spindle
rip.
youknow its funny how in the ad video vrchat made...
its shows a webpanel in use.
tepid spindle
The piano world used it and when you go their now...LMAO R.I.P
Clear as day btw in the video.
vocal shard
mirrors are still working tho
💨
tepid spindle
Yep.
Some other things were noted to be false and removed.
That shrine world...enabled low quality mode
bitter needle
Were webpanels removes due to people using their function maliciously? I was not around vrchat when such a thing existed
vocal shard
cold talon
they discovered a bug that could result some malicious code to be executed, and combine that with another bug that allowed prefabs on avatars you got yourself a disaster
faint skiff
So rather than fix the bug, they removed them entirely?
cold talon
fun fact, not even using the bug you were able to mine crypto with them using others users cpu power 
broken plover
lmao
bitter needle
Crypto grifters smh
cold talon
it was too tempting not to try, woo ho there mod, before you ban me, it was only for testing proposes on a private world
vocal shard
They kind of just disabled them, they were probably planning to fix it later on but didn't get to do so yet
bitter needle
Did they work better than the current video panels for sharing stuff?
cold talon
much, you full on had a browser including scripts
bitter needle
I feel like the current video players are always somewhat buggy
vocal shard
Webpanels and UI panels you see right now are different things
Webpanel allowed for actual websites to be show on the objects
bitter needle
Or i cant tell if something just isnt loading cause my internet is slow
I hope they add them back one day
bitter needle
Maybe with the latest round of VC funding lol
indigo fern
vket3 can open web pages 🍾
special perms
faint skiff
Hmm, so VKet is basically a bit of a lie then...
cold talon
they could still serve you any link
indigo fern
i mean, its not a hidden fact that some worlds get special things
vocal shard
well, at least unlike with webpanels you actually have a way to confirm what get's open in it unless you are in VR
indigo fern
🅱aul 
ruby needle
when the page is allready open its too late tho 
in terms of something malicious
unless a background miner
cold talon
^
halcyon totem
can someone learn me this game plz? lol
indigo fern
yea, thats why theyre gone lmao, some pages were auto opened on entering the world
like a hidden page in the world you have no way of seeing or closing, just running
cold talon
toxic @vocal shard at play wow
indigo fern
Assumptions 👀
cold talon
[censored by government]
indigo fern
modded discord client 👁
cold talon
its all css i swear
native eagle
Any tips for murder 3
vocal shard
Kill 😈
ivory folio
don't get murdered
cold talon
And thats about all
native eagle
Have I seen avatars that can run faster than normal in there or was that just optimal delusion
viral quail
hey so me and a discord server that some of you may know are having the issue of a crasher whos been crashing computers and we were wondering for some help. the discord server is bloodbath fever and the user i would like to keep anonyms, if anyone could help or if staff could dm me for more info please do.
faint skiff
Have you added the SDK to your project?
molten gale
found it
viral quail
the user has already broken a members headset and so we could really use some help, hes been banned from the server but there isnt really much we can do
cold talon
break a headset 
cold talon
yeah that doesn't work like that chief
faint skiff
Yeah, that's not a thing
viral quail
dont shoot the messenger you know
cold talon
anyway, you cant break a headset like that
viral quail
good to know
ill ask for info from the user who claims this, as well as an entire report from more than that user
they had to be banned so obv something was going on
cold talon
the most a crasher can do is well, blue screen. but that's about it. and moded client users can disconnect people, but they recently got yeeted
faint skiff
It's like the people that claim shaders broke their GPU. No, your GPU was just dying anyway and when it was strained, finally shit the bed.
cold talon
if the gpu was dying already maybe a sudden increase to 100% utilization would be the final nail in the coffin, but that is all speculation too
shet im just repeating after enverex now
vocal shard
No, you crazy, hackers are making specific code for their shaders that is frying everything around it
faint skiff
Out of literally everything I have, VRChat is the only one to make my GPU and CPU fans spin up to max. It's... a little annoying.
tender shoal
There's no such thing as a GPU fryer. There's no such thing as a blue screener. Just because it happens by chance to one person doesn't mean it does these things lol
inner cape
put a stick inbetween the fan blades, that will slow it down
umbral reef
@tender shoal BsoD can happen on the literal potato's people play this game on, its not harmfull, thats the point of a BsoD, making sure nothing goes broke when its unsure what to do.
cold talon
leaked image of vrc player pc build https://cdn.segmentnext.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/04/potato-pc.jpg
tender shoal
Yes. But people in game saying you can blue screen people with a crash is silly and false.
I've tested many "Blue screeners" on myself and it's like every other crash out there
cold talon
ngl, that ram might be better than mine
umbral reef
The thing is a blue screen can/will only happen on reallly shitt pc's
If your pc isnt a literal potato that can barely handle just youtube. You should never get it.
cold talon
and its a tuberos duo series
holy, that just gave me an epic idea
3d print a potato shaped case for my raspberry pi
vocal shard
Is I7-6700 + GTX 1080 is considered much of a potato though?
quick kayak
No that's a good pc.
slow halo
My PC's are always unbalanced
cold talon
top heavy pc 
slow halo
I've got a GTX 2070, but an old i5 4690 and 16gb of ddr3 ram
slow halo
It handles basically everything really well to perfectly, but occasionally a game will pop up that taxes it a bit
But hey it'll run VR right? So whatever for now
It's annoying that upgrading the cpu means also doing the MOBO and ram
desert stratus
i5 6400 <@/
vocal shard
i5 7400
technology advances so fast...i remember when duo core CPU's were everywhere...
patent haven
crisp siren
Is it true there are some adult content world in VR chat
pseudo basalt
There are all kinds of private worlds in vrc
vocal shard
LOL
crisp siren
What...
pseudo basalt
Not particularly
slim temple
@crisp siren more of a don't ask don't tell policy. VRChat is a -platform- much like twitter/Instagram but has privacy for some things, but at the same time the minimum player age is 13. Doing adult things publicly or posting about them is a bannable offense.
frozen garden
There is alot of "Enterprise Resource Planning" in private worlds
crisp siren
Oh
slim temple
so here is not the place to talk about it.
crisp siren
My bad
inner cape
filthy bot inpersonator
crisp siren
I don't know the norms here
cold talon
crisp siren
or rules
cold talon
nice try buddy
crisp siren
Just read an article about it
frozen garden
top 10 anime battles
pseudo basalt
mfw ppl write u instead of you
frozen garden
h
inner cape
w
inner cape
LUL
faint skiff
@frozen garden Is that when you arrange to relocate your resource into someone else's enterprise?
frozen garden
perhaps
languid olive
How does the avatar marketplace work exactly?
Because there is an avatar I truly want
languid olive
Oooooo, there's 2 avatars I truly want
inner cape
scan the qr codes that are all over the place, and it will lead you to exact links, i bet, no need to look for it on booth
faint skiff
Good luck doing that if you're in VR, lol
inner cape
take a picture, scan the monitor
cold talon
Just read the qr code 
languid olive
Well, these 2 avatars have no qr codes
faint skiff
Quick, get OVRToolkit to add an "In VR" QR code scanner.
desert stratus
also, you can use the ingame menu to open up a browser link directly to the works the modeler has on the market
cold talon
💨
languid olive
Ohhhhhhh
desert stratus
@languid olive so if you can remember the booths you found them in, you can skip right to buying them
languid olive
Ah
desert stratus
you just need to be in them for the button to do its thing
languid olive
In them?
lunar shell
I might get one this weekend. Is it pretty easy to load up in Unity and get it in Vrchat?
languid beacon
Depends on what they are selling. If they are selling a unitypackage then yes it’s cake to upload
desert stratus
@lunar shell ive bought a booth model before and its fair to say that if you're a good / professional 3d artist who is in the virtual market, your avatar should be nicely wrapped up in a unity package for the user to import in three clicks. they should all be set up properly beforehand
and if the creator is especially open, i think some avatars also come with .fbx forms for edits
languid beacon
If they are selling a model file it will take some tutorials to set up in unity
lunar shell
I've done about 20 uploads from Unity, just hoping there isn't anything to worry about after spending so much vs doing something that cost nothing.
main pike
Morning everyone
jade swallow
I wonder if VRChat will add support for the quest hand tracking. Or... How would that even work without controllers..?
How would you move?
faint skiff
That's the leap motion issue, you can't/don't.
jade swallow
But that's what sold me on the quest...
faint skiff
It's why you can technically have full hand tracking with the Leap, but it's not much use as you have no buttons, joysticks, etc.
umbral reef
If you want hand tracking as a big part of VR your out of luck. Throwing gang signs isnt a usefull or fun way to use programs. I worked with the leapmotion (a hand tracker) for a while and using it for anything that isnt just a gimick is pure suffering. So unless a game is premade with it in mind its going to be fairly tough.
jade swallow
Oculus is implementing it as a native feature, and is building games around it.
subtle salmon
A friend used leap motion for a while combined with some joy cons to float their hands around, made him look like a puppet with stranger hand syndrome. It was amusing enough to watch, at least..
umbral reef
I know its a native thing now, just means other devs outside of oculus themself have to properly use it.
And its hard to use for menu's in most cases or moving around. Its why the Index hands work neat, you have the best of both worlds really.
jade swallow
I'll just get a vive then and add trackers and upgrade the controllers later
graceful pewter
I have a feeling we're going to see a lot more the menu button on wrist watch
umbral reef
I love to trigger menu's my accident 👀
jade swallow
He also mentioned freaking neural input. I swear that man is mad.
umbral reef
I would love to jack wires into my brain with a battery attached c:
Mainly if we barely know what neuron does what/why in our brain
molten gale
I ordered my xbox one kinect for fbt today!
jade swallow
He said it's non-invasive. It's just a bracelet you wear, and they have a working prototype.
desert stratus
inb4 vrc team adds reliable menu / action input for quest finger tracking in q1 2020
highly doubt but that would be cool
umbral reef
Well i can make anything i want move by reading brain waves and its fairly cheap
But actually doing proper shit? Lmao nah
jade swallow
@molten gale you should've got a Nolo cv1 instead. The tracking is almost on par with vive trackers.
faint skiff
"Facebook has insufficient data on you this month. Please connect BrainJack™ to complete new upload quota".
molten gale
My friend told me to avoid that
jade swallow
I watched a comparison video and they specifically said that the Kinect wasn't worth it unless you just had one lying around.
faint skiff
I've seen it work quite well actually, especially for the price, you just can't turn around
jade swallow
They showed the Vive trackers and Nolo side by side and it was pretty impressive.
faint skiff
Nolo works very well, it's just less convenient.
vocal shard
Nolo works really well, but is more expensive than Kinect and there are bugs where the hip flips every now and then.
Whatever works, congrats on stepping into fbt
jade swallow
Yeah. You're tethered at the hip, and you also can't turn around. But it supports quick movements like dancing which the Kinect doesn't.
Yeah, having legs is great! I hear.. q.q
broken plover
The kinect also only has 30 fps which you notice in vr
your hands and head track normally meanwhile your legs and hip are tracked with 30Hz
vocal shard
^
jade swallow
I wonder if you could hybrid the kinnect and Nolo tracking...
But at that point you might as well just buy base stations and Vive trackers.
vocal shard
Why though? Lol
I will say I was surprised, I tried Kinect again recently and it was much better than it used to be. Still not the same, but improvement is good
jade swallow
Having a kinnect would fix the few issues Nolo has, and Nolo would fix the issues that kinnect has.
faint skiff
Wait, I thought Nolo was 360'? Is it only 180 then?
jade swallow
No idea if there is actually support for this though
vocal shard
Nolo tracks the sensors 360, but there is only one base station, so it can only see in front
jade swallow
@faint skiff it uses a singe base station for tracking, so it's 180
broken plover
it needs to see the little tracker balls to track them. so if you turn around and you have feet turned at an angle where the tracker balls are still visible your feet will be tracked but your hip wont because the tracker ball is in front
jade swallow
Actually, you have a lot of range because you don't Always loose tracking when you turn to the side so it's not really 180 I can't math ;P
faint skiff
Oh, I didn't realise that. That's a shame.
lime plover
Can someone send friend request to me?
Username: IThinkImKnown
Plz help me with making avatars
stiff sparrow
eat the pickle
worn wing
No mention of full body at oculus connect keynote, pretty focused on just a quest with hand tracking (no controllers) and face tracking.
faint skiff
How would full body even work? Not quite sure what people are expecting there...
broken plover
full body tracking and inside out tracking are two completely different things
graceful pewter
that's going to be pretty tricky with no external sensors
broken plover
because youre obviously not looking at your legs the whole time so how would they be tracked
lunar cedar
Not necessarily different, full body actually tracks inside out xD. Still the Oculus sensors can't track what they can't see.
desert stratus
camera belt would be the ideal solution for inside-out fbt
dumb idea i came up with a while ago
umbral reef
For the quest FBTyea prob
For the rift S? A cheap camera would do the trick
faint skiff
It would still be too occluded almost all the time
umbral reef
Fucking phones can do high end live FBT right now. Its all in the beta stages and being tested daily.
So a cheap simple color camera can also do it
lunar cedar
2D* FBT on phones
The DNN pose estimation algorithms phones use are still very beta quality
atomic fjord
How come that my phone camera picks up the trackers on my rift?
Like, very clearly visible
lunar cedar
Phones don't filter that light for better night vision
atomic fjord
Not even my DSLR picks them up (probably on RAW mode and some changes in Lightroom etc)
@lunar cedar makes sense
faint skiff
@umbral reef Why can the Kinect that has extra dedicated hardware for it still not do it properly then? lol. Hell, the newest Kinect needs a 1070 minimum apparently.
graceful pewter
umbral reef
@faint skiff The old kinect had fairly outdated software and the new one is fairly overkill
atomic fjord
When recorded by the sensor, these areas are white, as if looking at an actual light bulb.
It picks them up as red spots but still, this seems to be it. Thx @graceful pewter