#vrchat-general-2

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compact river
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not even close i think

vocal shard
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Being married on vrchat is very common

grave dagger
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Maybe they meant IRL married? ๐Ÿ˜ฎ

compact river
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"everything is a social construct" i have no idea whats going on here but did i walk into twitter?

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im not gunna spend time reading it dw

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bye bye

stray sundial
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HONK

tender spear
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curently making ambient music

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sounds sooo chill, makes you feel like a kid in the 80's laying on the bed throwing a ball up in the air wondering what to do.

vocal shard
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zzzz

cold talon
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Implying that we are not on the 80s vrcAevSip

white lichen
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I just bought an HTC vive at last ๐Ÿ˜„

finite kraken
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someone recently brought something up to me that i find intersting, is it worth uploading models from scratch in vrchat and i say not really, because none cares.. and they say why and i reply you know the offical models that vrcaht dev team uploaded publicly the starter avatars you can play with when starting the game... those are from scarth and none cares about them

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besides nikki

rigid crescent
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You realize no one cares about them for different reasons, right?

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It's absolutely worth uploading models from scratch assuming they look good. That's something a lot of people like seeing

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The default models in the game are from scratch, but they're also not what most people are looking for.

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But if you've got a custom model that's unique to you, people like that kind of thing and people like having it, if they didn't there wouldn't be more and more people getting avatars made from scratch

ivory axle
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Also anime jiggles are best avatars

finite kraken
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as well as getting their model stolen

ivory axle
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Lazy bous

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Theres a way to stop avatar ripping

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I forgot how tho

cold talon
ivory axle
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Well if they got the files you cant do anything but if they force clone it you can just make it private again or reupload it so they cant use it

rigid crescent
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How is using vroid lazy

ivory axle
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Im jk lol

cold talon
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Wait they actually use vroid?

rigid crescent
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No lol

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but i wanted to tackle that post one question at a time

umbral reef
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They did not use it at all bahka the person just doesnt know what they did and got told fake news

cold talon
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Oh ok, I would have been big news

ivory axle
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Well just report them and hope the dev team do something about it probs not tho

rigid crescent
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Yeah, people like repeating things they hear other people of "authority" say

umbral reef
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@frigid raptor You have to run code to see it
That means you download the code first you cant run it
When you download it you can rip it ๐Ÿ‘

ivory axle
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I know

rigid crescent
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They typically fix it if you have proof.

ivory axle
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How can u send proof?

umbral reef
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No way to make it fool proof at all. Else all companies would have this fool proof system

rigid crescent
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You don't even see players use VRoid that often

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If BattleEye prevents model ripping why do I see PUBG models ingame

umbral reef
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VRchat didnt make any avatars though~~

rigid crescent
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No they don't?

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There's nothing remotely like a VROid

cold talon
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True, but gotta hand it to em, vroid hair is pretty good

umbral reef
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Got a photo of an ingame avatar and the same one close to VRdroid then?

rigid crescent
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OK?

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No...

ivory axle
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@rigid crescent what would count as proof if skmekne ripped a moddl

rigid crescent
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ARe you high or trolling

ivory axle
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I cant spell ;-;

umbral reef
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Your the one making a claim. You should give proof

rigid crescent
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I am. I'm ingame right now because I get off on proving people wrong.

umbral reef
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If i say the earth is flat its on me to prove that. Not on you to disprove it.

rigid crescent
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which of these is a Vroid

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THe new ones arent created by VRChat you mong

umbral reef
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And what avatar from the new set? As there are a few there LUL

ivory axle
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:o he said mong

rigid crescent
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and they're all from scratch as well

umbral reef
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And as mic said, those are not made by VRchat

rigid crescent
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Which of these is vroid

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Not only are they not made by VRChat, none of them use VRoid

cold talon
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Clearly, all of them are made in vroid

rigid crescent
still lark
rigid crescent
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Oh, they're a troll

finite kraken
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thanks for the link to the scratch models

rigid crescent
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all done here, that was fun

cold talon
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Yes

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Please do

finite kraken
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the guy who was asking me really loved it because he is starting working on models

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and this was simple ui to work with

umbral reef
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Only everything different
ItS tHe SaMe ThInG

rigid crescent
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Sometimes the line between troll and idiot is super blurred

ivory axle
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This convo tires me

cold talon
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And sometimes they can hit the jackpot and be both

ivory axle
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Chicken or beef bois

umbral reef
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Buuuttt miiccc
All avatars are made within blender what makes them not original and owned by blender ๐Ÿฆ†

cold talon
rigid crescent
umbral reef
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@frigid raptor Let me ask. Ever made an avatar from nothing?

rigid crescent
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It's 100% from scratch

cold talon
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Neither did we

rigid crescent
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The model isn't from VRoid.

ivory axle
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Dont say its lazy then lol

subtle salmon
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Oh boy..

rigid crescent
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It's from hiroiheya

cold talon
rigid crescent
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Ah, oh well that's a big ol <@&397642795457970181>

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hopefully it's dealt with

umbral reef
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His name + he called people tards to insult

ivory axle
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Mic called him a mong too soo

rigid crescent
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Yeah, I did

cold talon
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Combo ban coming?

rigid crescent
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Who knows vrcTrollThinking

cold talon
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Aids + mic nikozoomcakes

rigid crescent
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More reporting for just trolling

ivory axle
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I got called a retard and they still havent been banned so feelsbadman

umbral reef
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@ivory axle I work with people in that job field
He aint too far off with his logic tbh ๐Ÿคท

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And that aint a joke. His logic is so bad it fits the group

ivory axle
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Im like really tired rn i have no ides what logic u mean

rigid crescent
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LOL kicked as soon as he says "What are they gonna do? kick me?"

ivory axle
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Im a dipshit ignore me

queen mango
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Taken care of.

umbral reef
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That was a neato clappo elire

cold talon
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Oof

ivory axle
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Thanks

rigid crescent
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that was the perfect timing, i love it

queen mango
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Was his behavior self-triggered?

ivory axle
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He brought it up

rigid crescent
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Yeah, we corrected him on claiming VRChat used VRoid models

ivory axle
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I thibk idk

rigid crescent
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and he flipped out, doubled down when proven wrong, and kept trolling and namecalling

ivory axle
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Mic called him mong too cough

cold talon
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Wait, kicking than asking questions FROG

rigid crescent
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Well he was kicked for trolling lol

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Classic smoothbrain behavior. If you're wrong and are proven wrong, just give up lol it's easier that way

queen mango
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Alright, nobody else to blame from him then. But still, aggravating his behavior will do no good.

ivory axle
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People wont do that easily tho

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Alright

rigid crescent
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Yeah, and that's when they sperg out and get kicked after throwing a tantrum

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I've seen it happen a ton of times

cold talon
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Actually he got Beaned all his messages dissapeared at once 002thinking

snow wadi
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VRChat using vroid models? Sure and my Kia Sorento runs on sunflower oil.

ivory axle
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Feelsbadman

snow wadi
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Swear to god, kids these days...

ivory axle
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iM a KiD eXcuSe mE

rigid crescent
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I went out of my way to find the creator's page and he still denied it, so it just solidified the fact he's a troll lol

ivory axle
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Well he gone now so

rigid crescent
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Out with the trash, i love it vrcLove

umbral reef
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@snow wadi wait you dont?

cold talon
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So that's the maximum amount of troll one can do before getting the ๐Ÿ‘

snow wadi
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I don't...what?

cold talon
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โœ noted

ivory axle
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Run ur car or whatever on oil

cold talon
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^ water

snow wadi
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No my car runs on trolls tears.

ivory axle
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Oh

rigid crescent
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Context probably matters in that scenario lol

ivory axle
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Im tired

cold talon
ivory axle
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I see u lurking jamie

rigid crescent
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sends it right as he gets kicked lol

still lark
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LOL

ivory axle
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Yes we get it shush now @rigid crescent

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Its been dealt with

rigid crescent
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I mean no one got it, most didnt see it lol

still lark
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Yeah but like, that message is comedy.

ivory axle
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I saw but i know its not worth continuing

queen mango
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I didn't know the timing was on point there

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But should we move on?

winged igloo
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Yes

ivory axle
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yeet

snow wadi
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He got the boot like it was a sad christmas joke.

rigid crescent
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lol

cold talon
snow wadi
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I'm putting together required assets for my next world.

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I know if ruuubick reads that he'd go "Fix your other worlds, you plonk!"

cold talon
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But not before you fix the others

snow wadi
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That's not your line!

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Shoo shoo!

cold talon
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Uff sorry got possessed by ruuubick there for a sec

snow wadi
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_>

queen mango
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I remember back then that he was like an omnipresent entity here on DIscord, scolding us if we go off-topic here.

snow wadi
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He scolded me for my previous worlds.

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It was horrible ;_;

queen mango
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Criticism hits you very hard, no?

snow wadi
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Well they were very good criticisms.

queen mango
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Fair enough

snow wadi
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He did assist me with my motorstorm world.

cold talon
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A reminder emote in the name of ruuubick

queen mango
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Perfect. Just like those times

umbral reef
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Elire are you still within BM or how its called now ๐Ÿค”

queen mango
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No longer there. Place's all inactive now. N8 and the others made another Discord server to take residence in.

cold talon
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And ghosto locked most of the server

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How come with the sudden brought up of it?

umbral reef
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Just wondering
Dont see the fella's from there at all anymore beside you and n8
So wondered if Elire was still with them or not

cold talon
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๐Ÿ‘Œ

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Actually did you see the invite link elire?
It was sent before abandoning that place

queen mango
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Apparently, no.

cold talon
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Guess it got pushed up by other messages before you could see it 002shrug

umbral reef
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Also didn't rokk get clapped from here?

cold talon
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Yeah, after he comented that generics rigs were not fix after the update

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Idk when exactly it happend

vocal shard
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It was more than that

umbral reef
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We sure it's just that tho? As I shitposred about that also before

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And be honest
Rokk was never a holy saint in everything (behavior wise)

cold talon
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Didn't say he is a Saint 002shrug

snow wadi
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Just saying rigs aren't fixed doesn't warrant a boot, as jamie said it was more than just a rig.

queen mango
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It was more than that. Maybe his behavior prior can be another point to consider.

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Shame. He's good in what he does.

snow wadi
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I still don't get why people think being rude is ok. o.o

cold talon
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People tend to get frustrated when they feel like being ignored for long periods of time, that might lead to his rude behavior vrcThinking

umbral reef
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He know most of his stuff and got proven right a few times
He acted like he knew it all
Meant when he got told off for being wrong he got salty.

slow halo
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Wow I missed some drama

cold talon
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Nah it ain't drama, just some constructive talking

tawny ore
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Saints are cool and all but have you ever lived a life of sin?

vocal shard
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everyday i do

ivory axle
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Yes im a sinner

regal talon
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Maybe

tawny ore
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Been doing this for a week and I'm having a blast.

inner cape
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spoon is a sinner for sure

regal talon
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Oofies

vocal shard
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ะ’ะ ะงะฐั‚ ะฑะปัั‚ัŒ! ะะต ะปะฐะณะฐะน!

broken plover
cyan breach
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@inner cape

inner cape
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what?

tawny ore
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Apparently someone is lagging

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If I translated that right.. My Russian is getting worse

broken plover
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I translated it in 5 seconds with google translator. the f word sounds wierd in german...

tawny ore
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Its not an f word per se

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Its more of an expression of distaste without meaning

broken plover
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I mean if you directly translate the f word from any language to german it just sounds wierd. I should stop translating russian to german and just stick to english. it doesnt sound as wierd there

tawny ore
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Oohhh

inner cape
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@cyan breach freak

cyan breach
thin dagger
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Anyone's got a comparison vid or gif for the new fullbody update?

stiff sparrow
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you do

polar fern
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Day ?? of not being able to use VRchat, giving up hope i can fix it

vocal shard
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who's on vr chat?

polar fern
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Not me for sure

vocal shard
polar fern
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I can't find any way to fix it

covert blade
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Fix what?

polar fern
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Whenever i go into VRchat it crashes

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Like, my home loads fine, but when it gets to the point where my avatar would load, instant crash

covert blade
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You probably have a bad avatar then

polar fern
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whether it's the steam version or oculus version

covert blade
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They're the same

polar fern
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Well i don't have enough time to switch it

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So i can't say that with certainty

covert blade
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Ask support to change it

polar fern
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What

broken plover
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isnt there a combo of buttons to change into a placeholder avatar?

covert blade
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Ask VRC Support to change it

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๐Ÿค”

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Looking that up rn

polar fern
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Ctrl /

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i'll try it

covert blade
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Ctrl + \

polar fern
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Ok ctrl \

broken plover
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but now the real question is... How would I activate this? \ is on a key combo. (AltGr + รŸ)

polar fern
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It was the avatar!

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It might work now

broken plover
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if you switch back to that avatar and it crashes again then you should not use that avatar

polar fern
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It works now

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And yes the avatar was not available so i guess it crashed me

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I am so happy rn

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Imma try it in vr

covert blade
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@broken plover You activate it by using the US layout which is what the keybinds were made for

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Any binds that aren't on simple letters and numbers are very tricky to use with a different layout

polar fern
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it's flawless now

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Thanks so much!

stiff sparrow
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np

regal talon
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Can a non full vr user use the place movement plugin, I only have an rift

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?

covert blade
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No, they cannot.

broken plover
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do you mean playspacemover? Yes you can but you will not be able to float since your feet will stick to the ground no matter what

covert blade
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I mean, yes you can but no it wont work properly

regal talon
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Thx

short shore
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unless you turn off the animation on your legs with a gesture override maybe?

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I've personally never used it but doing that sounds like a reasonable fix compared to just getting full tracking

broken plover
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no. The only way to float with playspacemover, is with full body tracking. In normal VR your feet are permanently stuck to the ground no matter what. Theres no other way than doing that. But playspacemover has a fake full body mode that spawns 3 fake trackers that are placed at your feet and hip

molten gale
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I uh, wanna kinda try kinect tracking

short shore
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okay, yeah.. that's more complex than I thought it was.

broken plover
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I have kinect tracking. I wouldn't recommend getting a kinect if you dont have one. Only use it if you already have one

covert blade
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Why would you want to float anyways?

molten gale
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I dont wanna float, thats failrp

broken plover
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idk maybe if you have a small avatar and you need to reach buttons that are too high up or you want to be at the same head height as someone with a tall avatar

molten gale
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I use very small avatars

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My normak model has a full size, 1/2 and 1/4 version

broken plover
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I always get triggered when my friend with FBT floats in the air. Im always like YOURE LITERALLY FLOATING! COME DOWN!

languid beacon
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I make my avatars my true height. Tiny avatars feel like they move too fast due to smaller reference frame, makes me dizzy. Also not lining up with tables, counters, and chairs is immersion breaking for me

short shore
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guess it could make sense if you had animated wings or something.

covert blade
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Tiny avatars are only good for acting cute and getting extra head pats

molten gale
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Yes

covert blade
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But otherwise, yeah, you're struggling with every table and chair you find

molten gale
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I love my headpats

covert blade
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Even the current avatar I'm using is too small (140cm)

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I'm struggling with chairs in FBT

molten gale
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mine is lower than 40 cm

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i think

covert blade
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I have to play space move myself up if I want to sit on chairs

molten gale
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I dont sit on chairs

covert blade
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Well I do because I'm lazy

broken plover
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My loading times are so long because My internet is so slow and My legs and feet always hurt when I have to stand for more than 10 minutes while a world is loading so I just sit on the floor but thats a pain in the ass "butt" whith kinect tracking

molten gale
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Same, I just sit down while loadinf

main pike
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Morning everyone

tame lily
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anyone know what the music is that plays when you first load the world treehouse in the shade? sounds nice but can't find the title
cheers

vocal shard
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Shazam.

tame lily
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i highly doubt it'll be on there but i'll give it a try

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yeah, no result

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or alternatively, is it possible to find the title of videos which are currently playing in worlds? that'd be much more useful lol

hazy marlin
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Reverse image search would be my guess

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To find the thumbnail

atomic fjord
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You can actually intercept the network traffic from VRChat. The URL to the video will be in there

inner cape
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i just used ok google to find a song i found in a twitter video, maybe try that

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ยฏ_(ใƒ„)_/ยฏ

atomic fjord
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Find the world creator and ask him

safe night
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Didn't think VRChat supported Discord's game activity

vocal shard
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I didn't think it did either.... vrcFPaulSip

umbral reef
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Because it doesnt by default vrcAevSip

atomic fjord
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It's been there for a while

cold talon
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by default FpaulSip

safe night
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So it's something you have to enable?

slate verge
vocal shard
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I thought it was a modified client... Idk

rigid crescent
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nah its not

vocal shard
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Idk. I don't keep up with those things

rigid crescent
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there's an API tool that enables it as well, so mgiht be both

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@viscid seal did yo usee the unity addon making its way around JP twitter for recording .motions with VR+trackers?

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my first thought was worlds like yours with NPCs, seems like it'd make creating natural animations way easier

lone scroll
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anyone using playspacemover (not openvr adv. settings) with index?

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button key 2 in the config moves me with b, but what is the code for a ? ๐Ÿค”

viscid seal
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I haven't seen them, will check them out thanks ๐Ÿ˜„

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I do have a motion cap app that uses the headset and controllers

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but I haven't gotten round to using them for worlds yet

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(I don't have full body yet though so can't take full advantage of them)

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Just checked the motion cap app I have, its called Glycon

rigid crescent
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i saw glycon but i thought it was rift only for some reason

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seems like its not though

inner cape
hollow breach
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Wats dat?

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Virtual market, plz explain

polar jasper
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It's like a real life market, but in the virtual space

rigid crescent
indigo fern
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Beware of your internet's, last vket was 200-300mb each world across multiple worlds ๐Ÿ˜ณ

tender ermine
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i mean who doesn't have unlimited internet nowadays? it's more common than not

narrow marten
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im looking for the person that made the avatar in sun war avatars, this one bunny avatar that is dancing and im trying to find the music its playing, i tried all kinds of words from the lyrics in youtube but i just cant seem to find the right song.. can anyone help me pleas ๐Ÿ˜‡

slate verge
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@narrow marten what world is it?

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and what avatar specifically

narrow marten
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its in sun war avatars, its a dancing bunny girl

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its nr2 from left side, by the avatar with a mouth thing on

slate verge
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omg thanks aev <3 idk if you will see this~ but thanks so much

inner cape
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what

slate verge
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@narrow marten can't really search for sun war avatar world

narrow marten
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i can go in and take a look agan what the world was called

slate verge
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sure!

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@inner cape i send in a support ticket and aev replied it, telling me to remove custom steam launch option and my problem will be fixed and it did

inner cape
narrow marten
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sun world new @slate verge

sand raft
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U gay

slate verge
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@narrow marten n&k feat. denis the menace - cruising (steve murano remix)
what you heard was only part of the song and it plays at 2:20 minute

narrow marten
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Thank you sooooo much @slate verge

slate verge
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sure

main pike
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Iโ€™m bored

inner cape
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@winged igloo "the largest and discord server"

vocal shard
umbral reef
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oi only i can post that level of engrish

nimble jacinth
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Hello

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I'm silence, silent, or wulf either name ya choose is fine

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Huh?

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Neither I'm single

umbral reef
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Get ready for the shade dm's then my dude

nimble jacinth
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Nah I don't accept random dms til I get to know the person better

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Yea sry

vestal pier
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shady new account with girl pfp

nimble jacinth
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Who's shady

vestal pier
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Alessia

nimble jacinth
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Oh lol so is she a he?

vestal pier
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idk

nimble jacinth
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Oh ok

vestal pier
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naw

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"ok google, find me generic supermodel pictures"

nimble jacinth
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XD for real tho

covert blade
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So I've seen like four people with NSFW avatars in public worlds so far

vestal pier
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Par for the course

glad bolt
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Sounds normal.

covert blade
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I have screenshots that prove 3 out of the 4 cases ๐Ÿ‘€ I wonder if I should be that guy and go through the effort of getting them banned cuz it says so in the ToS even though it doesnt bother me

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Or I be me, that means lazy

glad bolt
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Do whichever you prefer. Eventually, they'll get burned.

vestal pier
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report in game just get em to nuisance rank

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no avatar or voice, a much worse punishment than ban

glad bolt
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Didn't even know "Nuisance" was a rank.

vestal pier
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Its one below visitor!

glad bolt
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Ouch.

vestal pier
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vrcTrollThinking This is the icon for it

glad bolt
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๐Ÿค”

vestal pier
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without the hand

glad bolt
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Oh wow

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Don't think I've ever seen that in-game

covert blade
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I even cloned the avatar so I could technically check who made it too

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I've seen it on some noclip boi

glad bolt
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Ooh

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Super sleuth.

covert blade
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Also who keeps cloning on when running around with NSFW avatars

glad bolt
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To breed even more lewd users

vestal pier
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people who want others banned

covert blade
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Isnt the author sitting in the same boat?

vestal pier
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Its usually just a new user

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The models come from the site that shall not be named

sage pewter
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Can we update the sdk without hassle yet?

inner cape
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what hassle?

vestal pier
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What hassle??

rigid crescent
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hassle? what?

compact river
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Nani hassle?

sage pewter
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Obviously I mean David Hasselhoff. I want to make him proud by finally becoming independent

compact river
rigid crescent
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that sounds legit to me

inner cape
sage pewter
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But seriously can I just click update or overwrite the existing files?

vestal pier
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Both work.

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I mean both objectively do the same thing lol

sage pewter
#

Do they though? I've been told that I shouldn't do that, that I have to do a clean install every time

inner cape
#

i mean, delete the sdk files from file explorer and import the new one
only hassle being you cant delete it from unity itself, but is that really that big of a problem

vestal pier
#

Why cant you delete from unity itself?

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Thats what ive been doing ๐Ÿ‘€

inner cape
#

nani

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did they fix that then? vrcSad

compact river
#

Its always been

vestal pier
#

seemingly, ive always done that

compact river
#

Same

inner cape
#

it was an issue before, the hecc

compact river
vestal pier
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@sage pewter Deleting the files replacing them, updating, deleting from the folder - it all does the same thing.

inner cape
#

am i that old

vestal pier
#

Pretty sure unity has always allowed deletion within app

compact river
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No lol

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Ive been doing it since 5.6.crap

inner cape
#

you can, but it used to reimport itself when you delete it within unity, they even used to say to delete it from files in patch notes

#

i dunno anymore, i havent done this in ages

vestal pier
#

safe bet is to delete it from the files

inner cape
#

probably

bleak crown
#

If youโ€™re reading this I hope you have a wonderful day.

compact river
#

No

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*turns up edge dial

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*cuts self with dial

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*turns back down

bleak crown
#

: (

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at least get a good nights sleep

sage pewter
#

Why are my avatar and friend lists not available?

vast tulip
#

@vestal pier to update the sdk, you always want to delete the sdk folder with unity closed. When you update an asset with unity packages, instead of deleting the sdk folder with unity closed, you get a bunch of left over files that aren't used anymore

sage pewter
#

Right. Now then, why are my avatar and friends lists not available in-game?

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I sure as heck see them on the site

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Anyone?

nimble jacinth
#

Ugh can't wait for work to be over. Is anyone gunna be on vrc in 2hrs?

lyric ridge
#

Would anyone happen to know whats wrong with my VRChat? It loads slower than ever and it doesn't even get past the login screen when I try to use fullbody

rugged schooner
#

Have you cleared your cache recently?

steep turret
#

was gonna suggest that too

lyric ridge
#

How?

rugged schooner
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Go into vrc, settings, advanced settings, clear cache

lyric ridge
#

Okay

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Thanks

rugged schooner
#

๐Ÿ‘

barren heron
#

I'm installing blender

#

what y'all want me to make

wary field
#

Update idea: can we have a tab in "social" saying "Blocked" in case of an accidental block?

vestal pier
#

Make a canny

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This isn't the place for suggsstions

steep turret
#

damn

sage pewter
#

Still can't see my friends, avatars or favorite worlds

#

Nevermind, I was logged in to occulus

oblique viper
#

Anyone wanna play Im kinda bored

wicked mirage
#

Is there away to have more than 2 vr controllers without vrchat treating the extra ones as body trackers?

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I mean going into FBT mode

umbral reef
#

Uu no as normal people only have two hands :x

hollow sluice
#

@wicked mirage i dont see the point of them implementing something Like that

wicked mirage
#

I'm not asking for it to be implemented, I'm asking if there some way to do it now

snow wadi
#

I don't think there is, since there is really no reason to. o.o

wicked mirage
#

Or is there a way to switch between controllers (without restarting SteamVR). Basically I have 2 VR controllers and a leap motion. I would like to be able to switch controls in game

snow wadi
#

Actually I think you can just switch off the primary ones and fire up your secondary without restarting SteamVR.

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But both sets can't be on at the same time.

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Have the SteamVR Status window (The one that shows you what's connected) to be visible to make sure the controllers are actually gone when turned off BEFORE you turn on the second set.

umbral reef
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That should work ^

wicked mirage
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I tired to do something like this yesterday but only in one way without any luck, I didn't check the steamvr status at the time.

snow wadi
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Try my suggestion, and tell us if that does the trick.

wicked mirage
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Will do but it will be much later on, thx

snow wadi
#

Not a problem! Hopefully it works out.

ivory axle
#

;-; making avatars is a blessing and a curse

fringe glade
#

After a month of emailing the dmca team, i'm just giving up tbh.

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Seem like reuploading a model using vrcheat is easier than getting it removed when their acc got many models ripped and uploaded like that

#

Time to use people public models and not do shit anymore

ivory axle
#

?

fringe glade
#

Lovely how the moderation team ask you to talk to the dmca team when people just steal your model with vrcheat btw

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And how the dmca team throw you back at the moderation team because of vrcheat

ivory axle
#

Have you told them about the back n fourth?

fringe glade
#

I'm just venting, i'm pissed. I did.

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It's actually pepega

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I'm just not gonna waste my time on models anymore and focus on maps instead I guess

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At least i have a less chance of getting my work ripped.

ivory axle
#

Im curious now

fringe glade
#

i'll slide here instead

ivory axle
#

A mute admitted to me that she owns a client that she can look up an avatar and just use it.. its terrible how people think they can do that

snow wadi
#

Name calling is not allowed on the server, if you have any proof and such contact support!

fringe glade
#

Lot of people have this ; if it's public at least, the other thing is kinda yikes since it take it to the next level

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you're able to upload the said avatar to your account as a personal model

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zzz

ivory axle
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I dont have any proof because she wrote that she had a client and it didnt cross my mind so now i just want to warn people

snow wadi
#

Again, we're not allowed to call them out here./

ivory axle
#

Well sorry idk how to reverse time shrug

fringe glade
#

edit message/delete it

snow wadi
#

No need to reverse time, deleting the message will suffice. :3

polar jasper
snow wadi
#

Awwo Nor! โค

polar jasper
#

Morning Q

snow wadi
#

I was supposed to have something for you guys this coming sunday but I caught a nasty virus and was not able to work on anything. ._.

polar jasper
#

Haha, it's okey ^_^ Almost had too many last Sunday

snow wadi
#

Last sunday was total insanity. o.o

polar jasper
#

Donโ€™t think weโ€™ll have that many worlds on this one. Many have already started on their Halloween project

snow wadi
#

Yeah that was my initial plan, was going to have a "Gone horribly wrong" version of my Transtar Apartment.

quartz osprey
#

quick question as i havenโ€™t been in VRC for a while : What are the current model limits (bones/tris etc)

cold talon
#

Don't think they changed

quartz osprey
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so 70K tris

snow wadi
#

Mhm

fringe glade
#

The SDK don't really put limits anymore but be a good boy and don't go past 70k

cold talon
#

Wait how much was the default for dyn bone limiter 30 or 50?

uncut trail
#

Meow ?

covert blade
#

Miau

umbral reef
#

Is that's a kcalb

inner cape
#

vtec kicking in yoo- i mean, vket3 coming out soon, yes

snow wadi
inner cape
snow wadi
#

Ok that was pretty awesome to watch, thanks ghost! โค

inner cape
#

cant wait to not vistit it and miss all the hype

snow wadi
#

As a world creator it really did impress me.

hollow breach
#

Pfffff

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Nothing can beat the box

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Best world donโ€™t @ me

cold talon
#

@hollow breach indeed

polar jasper
#

@snow wadi take it you'll be asleep during the opening for this ๐Ÿ˜›

snow wadi
#

I think it'll be super late for me yeah.

#

To give you an idea, when you guys start the community meetup it's 12am my time.

polar jasper
#

You're only 2 hours ahead of me

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Not that late ;D

snow wadi
#

When you got work, it's pretty damn late >_>;;

polar jasper
#

true true

faint skiff
#

@ivory axle I spoke to two people using that client the other day, they basically said it just gives you a list of all uploaded avatars, even private ones (although those are marked as such) and they can just switch to them. Apparently it's not even super secret, they said it's just on GitHub.

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@cold talon 32, if you didn't find out yet.

cold talon
#

๐Ÿ‘Œ thanks

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github time fasterdance

faint skiff
#

But there is a bug (that may have been fixed now) wherein the user's camera counts as an unexcludable bone if you have a dynamic bone on the head, so keep that in mind.

covert blade
#

And they can just do that without getting banned?

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Like, the way you explain that makes it sound like it's super easy to do and goes through undetected.

faint skiff
#

I guess no-one knows they're doing it unless they tell people (or someone spots them using a private avatar).

covert blade
#

Huh

faint skiff
#

And yes, from what they described it sounded super easy.

covert blade
#

I guess now I know how certain avatars that have never been released on any world are as common as they are

faint skiff
#

Probably. Just makes me more annoyed about my ban to be honest. But crashers, modified clients and all that crap, that's fine.

covert blade
#

Oh you got banned? What for?

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Also to be honest, I do have a good bunch of those never released in any world avatars through regular cloning so I dunno

faint skiff
#

The report claims "NSFW avatar in public" but I don't have or use NSFW avatars so I'm incredibly fucked off. I also booked time off work to catch up with friends in VRC and that's all now been for nothing.

covert blade
#

Is it permanent?

faint skiff
#

8 days. But by then I'll be back at work.

covert blade
#

I do have evidence of NSFW avatars used in public that I could use to mess those users up

faint skiff
#

I've deliberately never used avatars which break that rule to avoid anything bad happening, but I know a lot of people that have and guess what, they're fine, I'm not. It's incredibly aggravating.

covert blade
#

Maybe you've just been mass reported and that triggered it?

fringe glade
#

should not even be a thing then.

covert blade
#

Or maybe it was NSFW without you knowing it ๐Ÿค”

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Ya know how some avatars still have their nips under the clothes? Maybe that counts I dunno.

faint skiff
#

None of mine do, I edit them out on the texture maps or unmesh them (assuming the base model even did in the first place).

covert blade
#

The only time I ever "used" an NSFW avatar in public was for the few seconds it took to clone it off someone else who was using it, fav it and switch back to normal so not only do I have screenshots of the two people using it, I also have the avatar itself which could be used to show who made it

fringe glade
#

nsfw stuff in vrchat are everywhere anyways tbh

covert blade
#

Oh it's not that I mind that it exists.

fringe glade
#

a quick run at the void allow ya to yeet 30people ez

covert blade
#

I honestly don't really care that much tbh. Whatever. Run around naked, I don't care.

rigid crescent
#

Most of those aren't bannable anyway

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Nsfw = / = Bannable

covert blade
#

But if I so happen to have a screenshot of that, there's a certain temptation to screw them over by reporting them

#

How's that to be understood?

#

I thought NSFW in public = nope

rigid crescent
#

No?

fringe glade
#

that's what vrc say in the loading screen :-)

covert blade
#

Now you're actually contradicting the loading screen messages

snow wadi
#

There was an avatar in a public world that was completely butt naked and even showed Ruuubick the avatar, it took about 3 weeks for it to get taken down.

rigid crescent
#

Plenty of models are nsfw and don't get people banned

covert blade
#

Plenty of people are using modded clients and are just fine

rigid crescent
#

Rather, won't get people banned

umbral reef
#

NSFW doesn't mean just nudity
Vrc bans nudity in public

rigid crescent
#

Exactly

inner cape
#

he's nitpicking on the definition of nsfw, skimpy is techically nsfw

rigid crescent
#

Skimpy is rarely bannable or banned too

umbral reef
#

Way past just skimpy (objects , actions ext) are also fine

covert blade
#

And a 100% nude model?

umbral reef
#

Nudity is a clap always in public if reported

rigid crescent
#

That's bannable, but there's a big leap as far as rules between the two

inner cape
#

if it has certain details, then it is bannable, yes

rigid crescent
#

Ah that too

#

But honestly they'd get a week or two tops, not really ahuge deal

#

IT all depends on who's doing the banning as well

covert blade
#

Mic, I'm not talking borderline NSFW stuff with anime chicks that are barely covered.
I'm talking an actual fully nude model where the sex organs exist and are textured

rigid crescent
#

It could just result in a public ban

inner cape
#

thats bannable

covert blade
#

Or just straight up nude hentai images

rigid crescent
#

I mean that's bannable then. NSFW is just a pretty big blanket term

faint skiff
#

The fact I emailed them 4 days ago to absolute silence is one of the worst parts of this too. Just the inability to even extend common courtesy.

umbral reef
#

Nudity in any form or sexual organs (hiden or not) are banable

covert blade
#

Woops.
That's what you say, but that's not really true.

fringe glade
#

the dmca and moderation team left me on read :)

covert blade
#

I've reported a world where you could see the textured nipples when you look down on a certain avatar.
Uh, world still exists, avatar still exists.

umbral reef
#

If it's reported then it will result in a clap lol

covert blade
#

VRC moderators: ๐Ÿคท

fringe glade
#

after 3 mails asking for update, last mail 2 weeks zgo;:^)

barren heron
#

I love drinking liquid napalm

rigid crescent
#

I mean I got someone banned no problem lol Must depend on who emails them

fringe glade
#

i'm now working on maps instead of avatars, more fun aswell

rigid crescent
#

they just like me. maybe i am an insider vrcTrollThinking

covert blade
#

Or maybe they just thought it wasn't that big of a deal

#

I have no idea

rigid crescent
#

My email is flagged for "wow what a good guy" I bet :3

umbral reef
#

You realize it's not in there interests to reply to a dmca follow-up?
If they did the takedown within 10 days they did all they had to do. Any more means they just put themselves at risk

rigid crescent
#

I mean if they're MMD models a DMCA is stupid anyway lol

fringe glade
#

bet my 3 weeks work in the animations is stupid

covert blade
#

Soo yeah, all things considered I'm just not even gonna bother reporting

fringe glade
#

bet the user ripping the avatar with vrcheat is stupid anyways

rigid crescent
#

I mean you're the one who keeps bringing it up every time reports are bans were mentioned lol

fringe glade
#

:^)

rigid crescent
#

"I got this SICK dirt bro hahaha"

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"I could TOTALLY get them banned"

inner cape
#

"not gonna bother tho"

fringe glade
#

i did 2 times today because i'm pissed of not having a single logical answer from the mods and dmca team

covert blade
#

Because they'd get a time ban anyways apparently

fringe glade
#

it's disgusting.

umbral reef
#

You don't understand how a dmca works it seems

rigid crescent
#

Yeah, permas are pretty hard to get I think

fringe glade
#

the moderation team throw me over the dmca one :)

umbral reef
#

You own all rights to the avatar or have legal rights to use it for games like this?

faint skiff
#

DMCA is wall-clocked though isn't it? So if it's unactioned after X amount of time, they're in breach of some law or other?

umbral reef
#

@faint skiff 10 days after contact on there side

covert blade
#

@rigid crescent @inner cape But you two don't really have to make fun of me just because I feel like talking about it

fringe glade
#

even if he did it,with vrcheat ; they do not care.

umbral reef
#

So 10 days to take action
No need to reply or do anything else

#

You getting payed to drop that name now or what lmao? You really enjoy pointing out the client

fringe glade
#

he also clapped me and some friends, dropped video proof and 9 crash logs from friends, isn't ban yet.

#

zt a point

rigid crescent
#

Meanwhile I dropped a video that was MONTHS old about a guy who crashed a room and he was banned within afew days lol

#

Moderation team is vrcZZZZ

fringe glade
#

i don't know anymore what should i givre ?

rigid crescent
#

Like the video was a few months old and I was like "man i hate this dude" and decided to send it in lol

fringe glade
#

๐Ÿคท

compact river
fringe glade
#

ima get back to vr sleep, gl gamers

rigid crescent
#

But yknow, the guy who took the clip WAS a streamer so maybe that's why~

#

lolololol

inner cape
#

ah yes, the streamer bias

fringe glade
#

i mean

#

it's a known issue that the support is not the best, which is whh they are recruiting aswell

#

and it's a good thing.

faint skiff
#

Well, now I'll hate them forever for wasting my week off work now so... damage is done I guess.

gilded helm
#

I've never used support tbh

inner cape
#

should've not gotten banned

#

Kappa

gilded helm
#

Rip

rigid crescent
inner cape
gilded helm
#

Blep

glad bolt
rigid crescent
#

Anyone know what time Vket is supposed to drop?

potent cedar
#

@vocal shard you talk like youre either 10 years old or 70 years old, i cant tell

fierce oriole
#

Vket around 7 PST

storm stag
#

Going with my Japanese friends tomorrow.

rigid crescent
#

im so hype

inner cape
#

mic transcended reality and any mortal feel of excitement and became the hype itself

rigid crescent
atomic fjord
#

I think today might be the day

#

The day I'll find time to play VRChat

#

Probably not tho

sacred drift
#

vrc servers getting targeted today or something? keep randomly crashing

atomic fjord
#

The servers or your client?

slim temple
#

today would be a good day to play vrchat @atomic fjord

atomic fjord
#

Wow I just wanted to know how to get there but they literally have a whole tutorial on how to install VRChat, create an account etc lol https://www.v-market.work/access

#

Just saying "Join Vket3" would've been enough ๐Ÿ˜„

#

It says it's from 21.-25. Today is the 20th

slim temple
#

japan lives in the future!

tidal aspen
#

it's the 21st in japan

slim temple
#

there's going to be a whole world row right inside the vrchat client

atomic fjord
#

Oh lol it's already 1:30AM over there. Messed that up ๐Ÿ˜›

slim temple
#

the worlds are gorgeous so it's exciting. I can't wait.

atomic fjord
#

But at what time does it start?

#

Damn I really want to see ใƒใ‚ชๆธ‹่ฐท, ไปฎๆƒณๅทฅๅป , Sky Island and ไน้พๅธๅ›ฝๅŸŽไธ‹็”บ

sacred drift
#

friend and i keep getting random game killing freezes

atomic fjord
#

Sounds like a crasher in your lobby

ivory axle
#

Yesterday my computer screen went blue and shut off

sacred drift
#

nah doubt it, ill just try again later lol

ivory axle
#

Whilst playing vrc

atomic fjord
#

That sounds a little bit more serious

sacred drift
#

do you have the correct minimum specs?

ivory axle
#

Yeet

#

Yeah i got vr its the first time having that problem

#

Specs are all guci

#

I got triggered tho cuz i was having fun

atomic fjord
#

considering that it's VRChat it's probably a hardware issue since VRChat pushes it to it's boundaries

ivory axle
#

Probably memory leak idk

#

I cant think of anything else

atomic fjord
#

There were indeed a few memory leaks in VRChat

ivory axle
#

Yus

atomic fjord
#

But most of them have been fixed

#

You gotta check what caused the bluescreen

ivory axle
#

I got 16gb ddr4 ram, gtx 1070, ryzan 5 2600x

barren jewel
#

tfw theres memory leaks and you only have 4gb ram

ivory axle
#

I did aswell hahah

atomic fjord
#

I can imagine you getting a bluescreen and then going full "ReEeEeE" mode

barren jewel
#

T_T yes

ivory axle
#

Yeah i got ree

barren jewel
#

i cant play vrchat until i buy a 8gb ram

ivory axle
#

On the blue screen it was like uH Oh SoMeThIng wEnT WRoNg

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So it restarted

faint skiff
#

Oh boy, I can't wait to go to vket3, oh wait...

ivory axle
#

Whats vket3

inner cape
#

virtual market 3

ivory axle
#

Huh

#

Elaborate im dumb

barren jewel
#

prolly people selling anime feet pics

atomic fjord
#

Why wait? What's the issue?

#

I actually like the idea

ivory axle
#

Oi i wanna do that for money shh

inner cape
#

he got banned and likes to complain about it

atomic fjord
#

Haha what did you get banned for?

ivory axle
#

?? Who got banned

#

Im slow and tired sorry

barren jewel
#

me too

inner cape
atomic fjord
#

I'm not trying to endorse any activity like that but it's not that hard to create a new account just to enjoy it ... I mean ... VRChat is free isn't it?

ivory axle
#

Yeet

atomic fjord
#

Anyone kinda more fluent in Japanese than I am?

inner cape
#

thats ban evasion which is bannable itself

ivory axle
#

I want new friends add me on vrc im going on tonight

#

Bentspoon

barren jewel
#

how can you ban a human existence

atomic fjord
#

@inner cape I know ... that's why I said that I didn't want to endorse such behavior

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But makes more sense instead of crying about it

#

Is it permanent @faint skiff ?

inner cape
#

its 8 days

atomic fjord
#

Well lol

ivory axle
#

If i got banned i would genuinely cry

barren jewel
#

bruh moment

ivory axle
#

Vrc is my life

atomic fjord
#

Try not to get banned

inner cape
#

he took a week off to play vrchat but got banned

ivory axle
#

Im lonely irl

inner cape
#

so he's pretty pissed off

atomic fjord
#

Oh that sucks

ivory axle
#

Dam

atomic fjord
#

Big oof

barren jewel
#

@ivory axle id be ur friend uwu

atomic fjord
#

What did he do? I wanna know the story

ivory axle
#

Thats a big jinx there buddy

#

Add me up its bentspoon reeee

inner cape
#

careful, spoon might want to become your pet somewhere down the line

ivory axle
#

Ree not included*

#

Ghosto shush

vocal shard
#

Hello everyone

umbral reef
#

Wat

ivory axle
#

We aint bringing that up agin

inner cape
#

yes we are

barren jewel
#

as i said, i cant play vrchat until i get my 8gb ram

ivory axle
#

nO its nsfw

#

iM whOlesOme

#

Oh dam oops

umbral reef
inner cape
#

;)

ivory axle
#

As i said im slow :)))

faint skiff
#

@atomic fjord The ban reason says NSFW avatar in public, but I don't have/use/own any. I emailed them on Monday night about it and haven't heard anything back. Basically wiped out all the time I booked off to catch up with friends.

ivory axle
#

Customers service is bad

inner cape
#

you emailed moderation, not support, right?

ivory axle
#

I just noticed that winky face damn u

inner cape
#

have you slept today, spoon? or drunk anything?

ivory axle
#

No im really tired

faint skiff
atomic fjord
#

@faint skiff damn that sucks

ivory axle
#

I have a sleeping problem so when you mix it with college i feel like death

atomic fjord
ivory axle
#

I do sound like im high cconstantly yet im not tho

#

Dont do drugs kids

inner cape
#

dont do that, literally says noreply lUl

atomic fjord
#

Whooosh

ivory axle
#

Lul

inner cape
#

now i feel stupid

ivory axle
#

Dont worry thats my job

#

Im the stupid on

inner cape
#

ok good

ivory axle
#

Yeet

atomic fjord
#

Yeet

inner cape
#

Yeet

ivory axle
#

Feet

atomic fjord
#

Yeet

inner cape
#

okay stop

ivory axle
#

What

atomic fjord
#

Where?

ivory axle
#

runs

atomic fjord
#

yeets @ivory axle into a different galaxy

inner cape
#

anyway, about the vket3, did you watch the vid i linked?

ivory axle
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Im basically already in my own realm u dont have to do that lol

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No im on le bus

inner cape
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nevermind

ivory axle
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Ill do it when im home which will be soon

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Not soon but soon

inner cape
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spoon

ivory axle
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Wat

atomic fjord
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moon

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noon

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rune

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tune

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cat

ivory axle
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Imma play vrc for a while tonight cuz i got an easy shift tomorrow

atomic fjord
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raccoooooon

ivory axle
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Totally didnt play from 7 pm until 6 am when i had an 8 am shift that morning lul

still skiff
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anyone know what virtual market is?

atomic fjord
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Same answer

inner cape
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they sell avatars basically

atomic fjord
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Much more lol

rigid crescent
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Iwonder what the numbers will look like

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speaking of which whered the bot go :0

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!online

atomic fjord
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The numbers?

rigid crescent
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online users

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It's bound to draw in a lot of new users from japan and a few enthusiast outside of japan

inner cape
#

bot literally ded

umbral reef
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He died in the area 51 raid

inner cape
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F

atomic fjord
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F

digital tangle
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hello no siei brasil

fleet flicker
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There are previous virtual markets they have made that you can check as well.

digital tangle
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br

snow wadi
vocal shard
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Can someone explain the insane amount of shibas and lolis to me?

atomic fjord
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Shiba is love

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I don't know about the Lolis tho

vocal shard
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I'm thinking "of all the things you could be... Of ALL the things you could be..." to myself, as I make an avatar of some blob mf

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so I'm not without hypocrisy by any means, but still

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lolis, why?

faint skiff
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I find the Shiba's weird looking so I'm not a fan and yeah, the loli obsession is... odd. But uh, welcome to VRChat?

vocal shard
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I feel like that's it, pretty much

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No other reason?

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No ugandan knuckles reboot: loli edition?

supple python
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speaking of lolis
I walk into a world ->
lolis flock to me

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yes its concerning

faint skiff
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Lolis are people's go-to avatar for the most part. You'd have to ask those people why to figure it out. Doesn't seem to be a phase.

jade ember
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it's also the reason why most normal people abandon VRC when trying it out

vocal shard
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dang

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I guess every not-normal person has a fantasy of being a loli?

jade ember
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why do you think that?

magic grove
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Maybe they think itโ€™s cute.

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Or maybe thereโ€™s more to it...

rigid crescent
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lol why do you need to have a "fantasy" about sometihng to use it as an avatar vrcTrollThinking

magic grove
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Okay so Iโ€™m in this one VRChat game and I think I walked in on something...

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vulgar.

rigid crescent
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Probably

magic grove
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Guys help lmao.

rigid crescent
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just leave?

covert blade
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Huh, so you can actually undo all player moderations from the website now.

magic grove
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Iโ€™m too intrigued to leave.

rigid crescent
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ok

magic grove
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It ended up being boring so I left anyway lol.

glad bolt
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๐Ÿค”

inner cape
glad bolt
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hoi, Ghost

inner cape
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um, hello

molten gale
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I just like being small

ruby burrow
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People just enjoy the change of perspective that avatars different to their IRL self give.

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Plenty of people have existed in the 6ft lanky male club for half their life. Been there, got the blank t-shirt etc.

rigid crescent
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That's too deep too

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There's no real single answer

ruby burrow
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The chance to be some cute 3-4 foot thing, or some cool and powerful looking 9-12 foot thing, are two opposite sides of the same coin.

vocal shard
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You fools

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go Toad.

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Easy.

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Cute, short, serial killer

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Amazing singing voice, too.

ruby burrow
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Why serial killer tho. :v

vocal shard
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Let's not kid ourselves

ruby burrow
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When I picked my name for VRC, I went into the game initially thinking, "This is dumb, why did I pick this silly name. I should have just stuck with Squid."
But the reaction I got when paired with a suitably cute avatar, very quickly washed any of those reservations away.

inner cape
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cyclops and squid.. hmmm

ruby burrow
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Getting treated like a puppy by total strangers upon first meeting, certainly isn't something I get outside VR.

inner cape
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but do you enjoy it?

vocal shard
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inb4 "Not sure, but my junk sure does"

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That's what I'd say anyway vrpill

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Only exception being if it weren't true.

glad bolt
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okayfineIwontsayhianymore

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๐Ÿ˜ถ

elfin cloak
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can someone provide me a correct youtubedl.exe file for world name'd
'kareeda flix & chill' world?
cause only on that world i see a black screen no matter how much i wait

lunar cedar
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careful though, public release youtube-dl won't restrict to certain sites

rigid crescent
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It doesn't have a specific YouTubedl

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That and last I remember when the YouTubedl issues happened the world still worked so that's probably not the issue

elfin cloak
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wait
are you saying that in some specific occasions i need vpn?

lunar cedar
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I suppose if you're in mainland china you would

elfin cloak
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oof

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but listen
i remember 4 months ago
i was able to see and hear everything from there
but when new updates come
i see and hear nothing

rigid crescent
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The movies are also not hosted the same as most movie worlds any more, which are usually dropbox or similar services

neon edge
#

just a question is anyone else having problem with being sent home in vrc

hollow minnow
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ummmmm hi..?

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:p

untold shuttle
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No but there is like a new glitch where people go invisible and you canโ€™t hear them now apparently

thorn sundial
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is anyone else's view getting clipped behind and covered by their own avatar after the update?

lean wind
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Same here actually. Idk what to do. One of my favorite avatars is kinda useless now. xP it wasnโ€™t happening before so I donโ€™t know what happened.

topaz crown
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hey having some problems with png when i go into vrchat it ok and has around 187 to 145 but when playing it goes up to around 567 to 342 and it never happend before i checked my computer and im in desktop and nothing is going on and i have no idea whats going on

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it been happening since the new update and its only in vr

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on my vrheadset

barren heron
#

eating chick fil a

steep turret
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dang im eating chicken but not the fil a kind

barren heron
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dang

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still sounds delicious

lean wind
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I still canโ€™t use my avatar and now Iโ€™m hungry also. -_-

steep turret
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feelsbad

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use that hunger to motivate yourself into fixing whatever issue you're having is

lean wind
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Thanks...

rigid crescent
jaunty fog
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question. did something break about dancing worlds that they dont use visemes anymore?

faint skiff
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But only in the same room? Hmm

astral rose
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whats this trust system about?

slow halo
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Incoming!

astral rose
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i-

slow halo
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I was expecting something but it didn't happen

covert blade
#

You mean the ingame rank?

astral rose
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yes

covert blade
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Well, it's mostly useless. You just rank up by playing

astral rose
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oh lmao, i have no clue tbh

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is it just to flex?

covert blade
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Pretty much. The point behind the trust system is so that people who are more "trusted" have more of their avatar features visible to others.

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You also cannot upload custom content until the "New User" rank. That part is actually the only thing that really matters.

astral rose
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I was just on it, for the first time ever since i got my vr yesterday, and there's a option to see everything? So i don't really understand whats the point?

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Or maybe i'm just missing things out?

covert blade
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Other than that it's mostly just for the safety system which is customizable anyways so people either have everything turned off or everything turned on

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Go to Safety, set it to NONE

astral rose
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Oh yes that's what i did

rigid crescent
covert blade
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Or if you don't want to see anything, go to custom and disable everything for all ranks except Avatar and Voice

rigid crescent
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Keep in mind the option to see everything will make it extremely easy to be particle/mesh/shader crashed

astral rose
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OHHH ok, makes sense

covert blade
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And that's also why this is useless. People who don't want to be bothered by avatar features will turn it off for all ranks anyways

astral rose
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I was being bullied by that LOL

rigid crescent
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The settings I use leave on everything except Custom Animations

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Unless they're a friend

astral rose
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Oh okay, makes sense now. Damn. Thanks will change it tomorrow when i pop on

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I was really weirded out by that, now it all makes sense tbh

covert blade
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Usually I turn off everything except animations so I can at least see if they're doing something but right now, I either have safety off entirely or if I dont want to be bothered, I turn off everything except Avatar and Voice

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Some avatars do bother me a lot more with that though because then certain things that aren't supposed to be visible become visible 24/7

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I mean the Safety System is fine, just the ranks are meh. To be honest "Known User" and "Trusted" could easily be removed and not much would be missing

glad bolt
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I've everything disabled except for Avatar and Voice for everyone Trusted and below. Friends, I have everything enabled since no one uses an atrocious amount of particles or shaders.

potent cedar
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is there a hotkey to disable shaders?

covert blade
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Shift + ESC

astral rose
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Thanks Mason for the help

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One more question, why do people just look at walls in rooms?

covert blade
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They're likely looking at mirrors

glad bolt
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Mirrors.

rigid crescent
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Most particles and shaders are activated via animation

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turningo ff shaders definitely makes the game look ugly

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That's why I just leave off animations for non-friends

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You'll have theo dd thing slip through that's about it tho

astral rose
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So it's just a mirror they're looking at?

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Like a reflection of them?

potent cedar
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do people not use fallback shaders??

glad bolt
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Dunno the appeal of mirrors outside of phantom sense assistance. I'd rather look at someone face to face if we're talking.

rigid crescent
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Not everything falls back very well

covert blade
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@potent cedar They can't. The game will use fallback shaders on its own based on the shader used.

rigid crescent
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Better FOV, better immersion, stuff like that

glad bolt
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Yes, there's normally a button nearby to enable/disable the mirror they're huddled by.

covert blade
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Oftentimes, it works pretty well. Othertimes, not so much

astral rose
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Especially in that rain room, half of the lobby is looking at it

potent cedar
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er how does it determine that?

rigid crescent
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It defaults to a specific shader as far as I know

potent cedar
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oh that makes sense

astral rose
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I see, will look into it tomorrow

glad bolt
#

Good stuff. Sounds like you're having fun otherwise.

covert blade
potent cedar
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someone said my standard shader model wasnt supported on mobile which surprised me

covert blade
#

I'd be surprised if the Quest is even capable of any fancy stuff

astral rose
#

Except for people trying to crash me, yeah had a lot of laughs

glad bolt
#

Ah, nice. Balances out, then.

potent cedar
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it probably uses a tiled renderer and tiled renderers are weird

covert blade
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But how avatars look with shaders disabled depends entirely on the shader used.

astral rose
#

Yup! Thanks for the answers everyone.

glad bolt
covert blade
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Some will look just fine, others will have huge white boxes on or inside of them making it worse than before (or other things that are invisibly behind them)

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Or you can see straight through parts of their avatar

rigid crescent
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Yup, its why I leave them on

faint skiff
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@potent cedar Only some super basic shaders are supported on mobile and they have very little functionality.

covert blade
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I mean, I dunno. Always jumping between maxi safe and none. Kind of wish the "Maximum Safety" preset wouldn't disable Avatar visibility entirely for half the ranks

rigid crescent
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just use custom?

covert blade
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I do but if I ever use the panic mode I have to set it back to the settings I used before manually for each rank.

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Hey I'm lazy ok

astral rose
#

Damn, does anyone have a rift s here?

covert blade
faint skiff
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I think the "Block specific avatars, not people" option would be incredibly useful.

covert blade
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Eh? I just want to turn off all the special features on a certain user without hiding his entire avatar.