#vrchat-general-2
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I mean I tried out the kinect2vr. But it’s too much of a pain for me
It’s so much easier with d4vr
I tried the d4vr trial and the calibration was offset af
Really?
with kinect2vr I can put it where it is in real life and it lines up perfectly
It’s perfect for me O_o
I calibrated it and the trackers in steamvr were below me in the ground and too far back
Legs are perfect for me. Just sometimes the hips would be a bit far back
with kinect2vr the hips are sometimes tracked too far down but idk if its the kinect that doesnt track good again or something else. because in the skeleton preview when I put my hands next to my hip the hip tracked bone is too far down so I guess its the kinect
I mean the Kinect are kind of old tech and wasn’t meant for these type of stuff
But it does an alright job nevertheless
Once I get money I’ll defiantly buy da color stuff and try it out
I’ll report back :3
Im not sure how you use it buy from my experience and many impressions of others it's doing a "not really useable unless in very specific and limited positions" kind of job
hi . im new to vr chat and im usuing a htc vive . i am usuing teleport to move but i want to change it so i dont . does anyone know how ?
Turn off 3P Locomotion in the settings menue.
Can I make seats overwrite less things? Or would that require changing VRChat's code?
If an animation overwrites leg movement, I don't see why it would also have to overwrite hand gestures
And I'm guessing that pressing random checkboxes in debug mode won't make anything better?
If a fullbodytracking player gets in a chair, they will overwrite all IK, without having their facial expressions broken. I need to emulate this with regular VR
They need full body to not break mmd stages honestly
Or at least a way to momentarily turn full body off
Hey guys
Greetings
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Paci you absolute madman. What was your longest streak?
And how do you manage the battery life?
he doesnt have vive, thats how 
people buy long cords
well, gal suggested the other thing, shove power banks in each of your socks
I mean I guess I could also take it off and then charge it. Do the controllers turn off if you charge them?
nope
nah
Because until I change some SteamVR settings as suggested by Gal turning anything on has the risk of something not working properly
Then again I was pretty done after 5 hours already
I'm not far enough so that I could live VR
Because I'm not used to it and I generally get tired pretty fast even outside of VR
I mean in between you starting to play and leaving, I could join, leave, take a nap and join you again after I woke up
All while you'd be in the same session
server machine broke
in my culture if someones this hyperactive, we say that they have an awl up their backdoor
Yeah i talked to some people in morning and they return in the evening and talk of yesterday, which is still the same day and session for me
Do a 24h run
I could easily do that lol
Same but family
I'd be amazed if I ever witness my controllers running out of battery
being a no life isnt particularly a good achievment
were avatar favorites always buggy? i unfavorited an avatar and it wont go away.
always, yes it takes time
hey i cant talk/hear ppl in vr chat on desktop mode.any help
Some people don't have the same level of stamina/eye strength as you, Paci. I'm totally talking about myself, you're beyond human, ngl
anyone having and trouble logging into their account right now?
hey guys
Is everyone having trouble of getting black screen 🤔
I'm having trouble loading into worlds, and sometimes even getting past the initial startup of the game.
I can say I’m not having that problem
yuh
good night everyone
Oh how fun to have people in murder with modded clients to teleport back in the map and to jump around
Votekick them
Tried but everyone's a freakin' idiot and didnt accept so I just blocked the person
"Trusted" user too
Oh uh stiiinky
I'm probs gonna need OBS open in the background so I can quickly hit record if that happens
Then again for as long as they can use alt acc's and VPN's it wouldnt do much anyways
Yes
The other night we were in a pug and all of sudden people crashed and had a ban after, without a reason. Since u usualy have a reason when banned, it wasnt a ban from the devs. Some1 said it was a modified client bann. Yikes
You sure you were actually banned? There has been clients that could spoof it, but an actual ban would require them to actually have access to the server, which is highly unlikely
Hi
SILENCE
Yea?
Sssshhhhhh
No
shhhhhh
Nope
I can't wait til the 19th
Whats on the 19th :3
I get money for vr headset
Oof
I can't wait for 19th too
I get money for car
Then i'll have it
and then I can save up for the Index for cyber monday and a new graphics card L3
:3*
Cause the Rift S sucks, bad experience and its IPD's are out of range of mine
Rip
Not cement 030
Oof
hmmm, or should I just keep it and sell it since I still have the packaging n stuff
I love the rift S.... But everyone has their own experiences.
I like breaking stuff but it sounds smart since it is expensive
I've never had any vr set so idk
I loved it, but I am shamed for the dumb robot mic it randomly and oftenly has, and I don't get the same VR feel as my siblings do cause my IPD is out of range, and usually the rift s says it is having problems tracking the movement of the headset in times when it shouldn't, and other problems that I have to spend an hour of my day fixing and it's annoying
Well i'd get the Vive if I were you..
How much is it an where can I get one
and if you ever want to upgrade from the Vive you can get the index and still use the vive controllers too and $500 I believe
Oh rip idk if I'll get it just yet
but on cyber monday you could probably just get it for much much cheaper meaning body tracking opportunities
Cyber Monday?
Yeah
Hmm.. yeah that's probably your IPD issue. The tracking thing seems odd.
I've used rift, Vive, wmr, and rift S and rift S is by far my favorite
Black Friday but for Online Shopping basically
A computer users day of heaven in other words
December 2nd
Ugh then I'll have to wait longer an idk if I'm working then
It's better to wait for cheaper prices anyways
Personally, I'd just focus on Rift S or Index as far as headsets right now if you're buying new. If you're buying second hand, a Vive is a good option for the upgrade path, but not with it imo if buying new
._. the rift s is ass please dont
How cheap is the rift s or index
Rift S is 400
Index is 1000 for full package
knuckle controllers (finger movements), currently the best vr headset out, and 2 trackers
I can only go by my experience. I love the rift s. Better than Vive and Rift. Unfortunately probably won't be able to use the index as it doesn't ship to Canada, and it's expensive
Well I just want a substitute until I save enough money for the vive or the index
.. That's what I did, its been a while, still going no where .. just save for the headset you want, patience for better things
Well ik that but I'm smol in game an ppl won't stop patting my head -.-
Ik lol but I dun like it unless I give them permission >~<
Aww
Then give them angry noises or something
Yeah I like to headpat too
No I'm not that mean xD
No I don't fight ppl I'm a pasafist
I'm going to bed buh bye goodluck with whatever headset you buy and hopefully you make a good choice waves
An idk how to make one x3

Sleep well
Rift S isn't terrible. It is the best entry level headset. Especially if its your first foray into VR. And the touch controllers are some of the best vr controllers on the market for reliability and ease of use.
Ive punched my TV a bunch of times and both the TV and the controllers still function
@vocal shard yeah, well it wasnt me tho, but 3 other friends of mine. All at the same time without a reason out of the same instance

They crashed, tried to log back in and were banned lol
Rip
I have an Oculus Rift and I'm going to upgrade to a second hand Vive and buy a deluxe audio strap.
You get a ban reason when trying to log in, or at least I did
Client, not website
If you get banned, you need to email in a specific way
http://help.vrchat.com/kb/article/28-ive-been-warnedkickedbanned/
All moderation inquiries regarding a ban must be sent to moderation@vrchat.com from the original account holder. It must be sent from the email used to create the account and should include the username in the subject line. If you have been banned, this is the only method you have available to contact VRChat staff regarding your ban.```
Yeah told my friends
They gonna do.
It was very weird, bc many people crashed by a user in the great Pug and a couple of them got banned after the crash, dunno. We'll see
To my knowledge that shouldnt be possible
I mean, there is many ways this client boys can do shit :-/
Bans are a server side thing so usually if that happens and you log back in, it should work just fine
Because the ban is not anywhere on the server
A other person said this: so they could of had there user ids spoofed and then used there ids to spam request the api to trigger a ban
You would get an API ban then not an account ban
And those are temporary anyway
And pretty sure thats also bullshit
A ban is a ban, no matter if its temporary or forever. They all got a week apparently so yeah
Then its a normal ban and big odds they did bad stuff and its just coincidence they got banned
at the same time*
I doubt that, very highly
3-4 ppl in the same instandly after getting crashed from a gang monkey 🤷
I wonder when I run into problems like that
Its really more likely that they did bad things, got banned while playing and it only processed when they 'closed' the game. Ban waves are a thing the team does.
Well, i had a ban once and it instandly kicked me into the ban instance
No matter where you are, but u dont crash.
Where tupper tells me that I was naughty 👀

What are you talking about?
When you get a bann, you join into a instance where there is a video from Tupper telling you, that you were naughty and got a ban 🤔
Dunno if its still the same, it was still in February like that
public ban world?
Yes
Dark times 

👀 oof
probably the soundboard of random ytp songs 🤷
oh wait...
it was shittyflute songs
some were fine and some kinda break the glass if you know what i mean
i dont have them anymore since when i finished building my new pc
XD
Avatars not lodaing for anyone else?
Anyone know what kind of volume of job applications get sent to the VR chat team for their open positions?
Average
email them about it as no one will be able to give you an answer to such a specific question
Howdy
I've gotta question -- what's that number next to the user symbol at the top-right of any world icon in the world list indicate?
It's certainly not the amount of users currently playing
I want the download of the cats blender plugin
hello
Hello Slavyansky(??)
I'll change my name 1 sec
Much better
Also my username literally meant "Slavic God" lmao
Ya
Wooo I managed to add avatar pics for all my uploaded avatars
👌
Hans! Get ze Flammenwerfer!
Ja Izuna, das Flammenwerfer ist 'ere.
crap i gotta go to school soon
wait i still got time
cries in gotta go to school
is there a meme channel here
nvm i answered my own question

i have an image i must post
@vocal shard instance id
Morning
Hello guys
Greetings
What world can I go to to talk about my feelings? Like in those YouTube videos of people telling their stories
Any world with people really
It depends on the type of people you meet rather than the world you go to.
I saw a YouTube video were they were in a world like a camp site with a camp fire and tents, do you know a world like that?
Negative
Nah, something else. I think I know what video he's talking about. Just, hang on a sec

Gaia Night is nice, but I'm almost positive that he was watching this specific video and that ain't Gaia night.
@prisma plinth But as I've mentioned, it depends entirely on the people you meet rather than the world you go. There aren't specific worlds for specific topics. The only thing you might encounter are specific worlds for specific countries, like certain worlds having a lot more Japanese players than others.
It was the right video
Knew it
Still thanks
I'll have to check the video when I get a chance
@covert blade and if you want, we could meet up?
Quite unlikely at the moment
Unfortunate
!online
There are 7150 users in VRChat currently
But there's 7150 other users that you can meet :)
Last time I play I met like, 2 people that actually talked
And now imma go and debug FBT some more because I wanna know if I can even fix my hip tracker at all or if me flying off is just something I gotta live with
But I’ll try tonight
Murder's always a good map to meet people and talk
Just not one to have any meaningful conversations due to the fact that you don't have the time for that
How is everyone
You've gotta plan on world hopping if you're trying to meet people
Doing okay for a Monday, coffee's helping 
Oh, that world is SOMBIE‘S CAMPGROUNDS
oooo this
We realized at the same time 
oof

are quest logs still a thing in vrchat? i don't remember seeing them anymore
Whats ya budget
about 800$
what do you already have? A decent PC?
Rift S for $400 if you want to save some money, or wait a bit longer and buy the index (top of the line headset and controllers) at $1000
or buy a vive headset base stations and index controllers
You also could probably find a decently used vive set locally for ~ 350-400, and spend 300 on the index controllers 👍🏻
B/c vive wands are 💩
i'm saving up for index controllers and fbt
im saving up for a vive. wmr sucks sorry jamie xD
Have you used it?
the wmr? yes I have. And The tracking is annoying me alot
Which one did you have, and for how long?
I have the lenovo explorer in blue (medion erazer) and I have it since january this year
What sucks about the tracking?
It only has two cameras so it has limited area where it can detect controller movement
Im aware, that doesnt make it bad, just inferior
Great piece of kit for what it is/the price
I think it even looses tracking when you have your hands straight down
- Everytime I start it up I have to walk around my room till it finds my configurated playspace again which takes up some time. I sometimes have to completely start over because It cant find it.
- the controller tracking is really bad. When I put them on the floor and stand up they just float in the air because They cant be seen by the cameras and Its not very precise either. If I have them infront of me (with steady hands) they still move around a bit too much.
- it doesnt have built in audio
yeah and that @errant hare
oof indeed
- You havent set it up properly, this isnt correct behaviour.
- how often are you putting them on the floor lmao
- ok and?
This headset costs like $200 though, it is still a good value imho
👍
can always go for original rift + vive trackers, seems to work
How do I "set it up properly" then? I do what the instructions tell me to do, I sometimes have to put them on the floor (not often tho) and I dont have any headphones to plug into the headset so I have to use my USB Gaming Headset which is an extra cable
To set it up properly you have a well lit room, and give it an anchor point (something the cameras recognise) when you set it up point it at this location, then when putting it on each time point it at the anchor and it picks it up, my anchor for instance is the corner of my room above my monitor, because i often wear it while sitting infront of my monitor with the visor flipped up.
Buying a "USB Gaming Headset" was your first mistake 😉
Jamie is typing, take cover

There's definitely some drawbacks. Personally I prefer wmr over vive after using them both. The resolution is the winner for me. But yeah, some of that isn't proper behavior, but I also have friends who were very happy going to Vive from wmr, and visa versa. So it's individual really. Nobody can really tell you what's better for you
Google carboard is the way to go 😏
Absolutely
can i use my rift dk1 for vrchat
I'd rather have perfect tracking than higher resolution tbh because the only game I can have high res rn is vrchat anyways because I scale vr down because of my pc specs
So in conclusion: WMR is "not shit sorry xD" 🙂
Probably cos of price difference
i honestly don't like the vive headset after playing for 2 weeks now, i researched alot about it and apparently vive suffers from blurriness and have only a small "sweet spot". Sweet spot is the focus point in the lens.
might upgrade to index headset
the index suffers from the sweet spot issue too from the reviews ive seen
wtf
No, no
Its sweetspot is bigger and because of that its overall blurrier
but not enough to be a deal breaker
Anything's better than the Vive Wands, honestly
People complain about triggering gestures, because they arent used to it yet.
@vocal shard one of my friend says she bought an index set, but came with broken controllers
how the heck did that happened valve
dont get me started on broken index controllers >_<
she had to send it back left with the headset only, so shes waiting
so many qa issues with those controllers
SteamVR 2.0 Remastered than
but yeah no 3.0
Theyll release 3.0 and it will be broken, just so they can push out 4.0 seconds later 😜
rent a fuckin warehouse
Sweetspot seems to be a confusing term. What some like to say is sweetspot, and eyebox.
Sweetspot being the position the lenses need to be lined up with your eyes to be clear, and the eyebox being how clear the image is from the center, to the edges.
Wmr has a small sweetspot, and probably lowest eyebox
The Vive has a small sweetspot, and a medium eyebox.
Rift has a larger sweetspot, and larger eyebox
Rift S has a very large sweetspot, and very large eyebox
Index from what I hear, has a small sweetspot, but a very large eyebox that is clear to the edge of the lenses
For what games?
Seen it but just like you don't remember the name
Thought you would say Pavlov
reason banned: erping in public
@vocal shard index is probably what i want, though i have been considering getting rift s
too late for that now however...
Get quest 
no u
i wish 😔
The index sweet spot is pretty small, however, it’s easy to find it once the headset it adjusted to your head size
could test shit easier then
I’d easily recommend the index •~• if you can afford it
i wonder if i'd miss oled screens if i switched off the vive
The only headset that will come out till 2020 is probably Vive Cosmos
Eh, I mean, there’s not much better than having the different refresh options.
i like dark worlds in vr because of eye sensitivty but i wonder if the lcd screens woul just burn my retinas
And really; I feel like everyone says “oh I’ll wait til something better comes out” no offense to you
But I hear that way too much
i'm still trying to find ways to fix blurriness in the vive lens, its still bothering me.
I pretty much just got used to it @ Fooni
😔
They're not blurry because they're dirty, they're blurry by design
Maybe to make screendoor less noticable
Unfortunately the vive cosmos seems to have the same lenses
That and rendering of bright light behaves.... weirdly
Remember, don't be SuicideSheep and complain about literally every VR product currently available
I feel like the cosmos is Vives attempt at doing everything
You mean HTC's
lol, yeah, every brand headset has godrays/flares, they're just different
Ah yes godrays that's what ya call 'em
But for the most part I've just gotten used to it
still at 90hz ): and basically lookin like a rebranded Rift s lmfaooo
oculus vs vive godrays http://abload.de/img/optical_comp_black68k5r.png
both sort of annoying with white on black text etc, but not really noticeable too much anywhere else
one of my friend says index is a bit lighter, but what do i know
rift, vive pro, oculus go https://us.v-cdn.net/6024342/uploads/editor/57/rdyfokqf0nr5.png
wtf is the pro
Even if you were to compare weight of Vive and Index there is also weight distribution to consider, the less mass is on the front compared to the back the lighter it will feel on your head
vive pro has the worst godrays according to most, some people even tried replacing the lenses with custom ones https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5O45PcAATxk
Vive pro is similar to regular Vive but has build in headphones, higher resolution display, second camera on the front and uses 2.0 base stations with greater range
Yeah that. Canadian waiting for a slightly less annoying way to get an index
just ask a friend to order it for you and send it to you
index godrays are on par with the rift and rift-s, so a little better than the vive and vive pro, but still fresnel and 'rippled'
@slate verge I'm skint right now so I don't mind waiting anyway.

would rather wait until they sell to canada so i can get warranty without paying import/export fees everytime i needa send it for repair
since thats what screwed me with my controllers
godrays flare comparison inc valve index: https://i.redd.it/qomjajyvub731.jpg
damn the index is crap in that department
So really only the Pimax is doing very good
Yeah, since the index uses 2 layers of fernel lenses
it's not really obvious in normal situations though, but it is quite strong with white on black
The rift S is apparently one of the best for god rays. Best iv used, but I haven't used index or pimax
yeah, shame the rift-s audio is so terrible compared to rift, or more people would upgrade
the inside out tracking is what kills it for me personally
The PSVR mantis headphones clip onto the rift S and make it very similar to cv1
dunno, I'm impressed with the quest tracking and I doubt the rift-s is worse
I think Rift S audio is meh but I never thought tracking is bad on it
And inside out tracking is one of the big selling points for me
I like my base stations too much
Hot take: I personally found quest tracking superior to my classic rift with 3 sensors
yeah @languid beacon it should be better than rift CV1
in terms of latency and positioning
I can’t imagine rift S is any different
Just played some Pavlov and I DO like the wmr controllers BUT the tracking is just not good enough to keep using those. I dont like oculus, so I guess whats remaining is index...
I have never personally used rift S, just Rift and quest
No issues with aiming with Rift S in Pavlov whatsoever
I played quest running the Pc version wirelessly. It was fun. I ended up returning the quest becasue I was unhappy with its short battery life however
Can even put weapons behind my back
if people play expert+ beat saber on quest without issues, the tracking is solid
maybe in really dark rooms or in sunlight it's shitty
Can confirm expert + on Quest works fine. It’s more responsive than cv1
but on quest tracking is super good
I even play it with wmr. tracking isnt really a big issue. some times I feel like I should have hit a note but the game says otherwise...
Dark rooms are not a problem for quest’s hand tracking. The controllers light up. It only needs room light go headsets tracking
it does need the room for head position though
and the floor level
so it needs a bunch of things to lock on to
Yeah but in dark rooms for bear saber it’s not a huge problem you can still swing your hands where you see the cubes and they will hit since hands are relative to head lost tracking does not make you miss
when it came out there was a dead zone near your face but it's completely gone for me now
I returned my quest before those changes. If they release a revision with longer battery I’ll buy one again
I just couldn’t deal with a 2 hr battery
Only two hours? Yikes
2-3 hours depending on what you are running
That's not much at all
vrchat is bad, and doesn't run too great yet
Don’t get me wrong I beleive something like quest is the future. Just better on board graphics, option for wired pc passthough, and longer battery. And not from oculus. But it is the future
I keep hearing rumors that oculus is going to release an add-on for the quest to make it officially work on PC. Interested
That'd be pretty neat if that were to happen
that would be sweet but it would kill their marketing plans
Kill oculus’s
so doubtful but hoping for something like that myself
Like they were planning to do that next year, but they're pushing it sooner because of the cosmos
If they do Pc teathering I’d hope it’s got an option for wireless
Is Cosmos wireless PC headset?
Facebook just doesnt sell replacements for things that break around that time and force you to update*
I don’t know anything about Cosmos
Cosmos is wired but it supporst the vive wireless adaapter
Isn’t that adapter like 500 bucks
Oh, so that kind of wireles. Pay 60% of the headset price to make it wireless
the wireless adapter is about 350€ in europe
Even better
Quest + virtual desktop is the best way to play Pcvr wireless right now and losing the wire is amazingly freeing
big oculus connect event at september 25, so hopefully some news in that regard
But the streaming quality has room for improvement
maybe just minecraft for quest announcement though, you never know 😐
Won't Quest be using lots of data if you stream PC games to it?
it's your own router?
Quest needs a longer battery. Neeeeds. I use vr too much to stop and charge it and
I really hope they come out with a battery revision before the end of the year but I doubt it
I play seated with the charger cable in half the time
even though they say you shouldn't
Also I don’t know if it was virtual desktop killing my microphone quality or if the quest itself just has a bad mic but everyone was commenting that I sounded really bad
@vocal shard thanks for accepting <3
the quest has issues with sound playback, it's been improved in firmware updates but it's still there
it took awhile for me to find you in the offline list
But yeah Quest is awesome but I feel like I’ll wait for its successor or rival

the way the quest prioritises audio chunks isn't respected by all developers, vrchat on quest has a lot of audio dropouts and glitches
it just doesn't hand over the buffers in time for playback
is it normal to get flashes of vrchat loading thumbnail in vr mode sometimes?
i always feel like i went out of bounds from my play space, but really? is it?
In the end I got the quest just to develop and test content for it but it felt like 400 usd I should put toward an index instead so I ended up not keeping it but I’m sure it will work great for others. Tracking is exceptional and taking it anywhere is hard to get used to.
I kept thinking I was going to walk out of my tracking space or tangle it’s non existent cable
Is that some VR sickness to be worry about cable that isn't there?
no?
Ah yeeee, I just got my 3rd vive tracker. Now to charge and learn how to set them up 😄
Please vote on this. https://vrchat.canny.io/feature-requests/p/menu-customizations
it doesn't sound too bad
@languid beacon I hope the vrchat content and client get a little smoother but the performance, tracking and display are amazing for such a small device you can pop in your backpack and use absolutely everywhere as long as there's wifi
Yeah. VRChat on Quest just didn’t work out for me because I made all my friends on pc and felt locked out
yeah limitations are sad
I don't have a choice
That is until i get a VR Capable computer. Because I hear the Quest can hook up to a pc?
It can but there’s a good bit of latency in quest pcvr. Depending on how sensitive you are to visual latency it may work fine or make you sick but it’s not ignorable
I'll try it whenever I can
but for now I have a goal to complete vrc teddy horror on nightmare mode

Quest charges pretty fast
If you have a gaming pc made in the last 6 years I would recommend going with a low end pcvr headset (wmr) and it’ll work good enough
nah
I don’t personally recommend quest pcvr at all
my current laptop that I'm using rn is a decade old
Quest as a headset; yes, getting it for Pc vr streaming, no
nah
I really didn’t like it
I gotta do one by one
How good is rift?
Doesn’t make me sick per say
Rift classic? It’s fine. Quest is sharper
Never used a rift S

Oh quest with pc streaming has the "eyes on slinkies" effect I assume
idk what that is
Imagine if you turned your head and your eyes followed your head half a second later
You mostly notice your hands on a delay actually; head rotation is local so it feels instant. Head translation is on a delay but hard to notice.
the only time I felt like i was gonna throw up was when I decided to ride a paper airplane in some world and I was rotating, spinning and moving around a lot. Found my limit xd
if im just rotating in a circle I won't have any issues
Then you should be ok
I guess according to Adeon, I would not try beatsaber with a quest via pc link
Beatsaber killed my controller life
Beat saber has a native quest app just use that it’s clean
Oh that's ok then
I dont think there's a point hooking up a quest pc vr thing just to play beatsaber when it's already on there
Native quest apps are really good
For VRChat I just want to see all avatars and go everywhere
Yeah. I just couldn’t last there very long the delay forces me to stop
Guess I'll see it when i get there
I wonder if I had a better Pc if I would have less delay idk
I have a question. If you purchase the vive index the Headset and the controllers will work with the Vive 1.0 Basestations correct?
Yup, it's the other way around that doesn't work (old devices, like a Vive and newer lighthouses)
I run off my vive lighthouses when I'm at home so you'd be good to go 👍
Yes, I'm running Index+knuckles with my 1.0 Base Stations just fine
Save money if they already have a vive
Yeah, that's why I usually say to save for an index rather than buying a new Vive now with the intent to upgrade to the index. You'll save yourself.
But if someone already has a Vive they've been using and wanting to upgrade, it is cheap to upgrade partially rather than buy the whole package on top of the vive
The lighthouse are what's worth the money now for resale. Vive headsets are becoming cheap because so many people try to sell the headset separate and keep the lighthouse for the index
ebay is full of Vive headsets without lighthouses
Although... Some places seem to have second hand Vive systems for relatively cheap, then with that you could get an index, have the Vive lighthouses, and use the Vive controllers as two trackers
when u sit in a night of the werewolf lobby for 3 hours and no one shows up ..
this private lobby stuff suck ppl like me who want to play it all day everyday kinda get cuck bc all the ppl who want to do it are freinds..
can i like group up with ppl that are in private
There are more than one instance @thorn void
You can just join populated instances of werewolf
i try to but alot of toxic public kinda scare them into private matchs
oof
/give @p minecraft:command_block
I have finally achieved it, 1000 hours on vrchat, I can now die complete
@thorn void There should be a public wherewolf discord where you can join those games
So I now have an VR headset (Oculus Rift). I tried it out for a few minutes, and i noticed everything is blurry (until I get really close) and I have weird shuttering at the end of the frame (at the sides of it). Is that because my CPU is too weak (I am 1 below the minimal specs) ? Is it maybe a faulty HDMI connection ? Is it because I didn’t wear my glasses while wearing my headset ? A faulty USB3 connection? Can I even run VRChat ?
Its hard to say what the problem is, but blurriness is to be expected with the Rift, its an old headset with a really abysmal resolution
I mean abnormally blurry
Do you have any point of reference
Well, not really. I guess you could compare it very very strong shortsightedness
You need to wear your glasses. The lenses focus about 6' away
Same ^^
I can see things on a distance of around 10-20 cm sharply, but I guess due to exe focusing it thinks its further away or something ?
But Ill need to try it tomorrow... Its night in europe
VR is weird to get used to.
When you wear your glasses, majority should be in focus, but when you bring something close to your eyes in VR, your eyes will automatically try to focus closer, but the actual focal distance doesn't change in the VR headset. This makes close up things blurry until you get used to it and your eyes adjust
what do you need help with
lol
oh did you mean in VRChat?
I thought leon meant as a discord pic
lol
I had the focus problem with Oculus Dev Kit 2, but I’ve never had focus problems with CV1
It just looks like a hologram, full stop. No depth weirdness
I focus on things close up as if they are really close up
I do have a very very slight astigmatism that I do wear glasses for but it’s so slight that with vr I just don’t bother wearing them. Perhaps that actually helps me more than it hurts
im working on gettin vr but that kinda difficult
im waiting to get one on black friday
'Ello 'ello, tis I, thou kameraden
Had an odd problem with one of the rooms. I would load it but then it would redownload... Then teleport me to my default room instead. Anyone else has that problem? :/ Is it normal?
I had that problem before
The room was that Hangout room.
And it is after Thanksgiving (forgot the date)
november 22nd I think
Oh sweet.
I just hope that the prices are low enough for me to get it, at the moment I am a Desktops user
But I guess that brings up a good question
As VR users, what is the recommended gear?
I bought my VR set preowned for 300. Only to spend more on HDMI and USB ports.
I use an Oculus Rift since I am on a budget btw. Otherwise, Valve Index if you are not.
oh shit
The only downside I have to the preowned is that the right controller's trigger is sticking a bit. Otherwise. It works fine as a starter VR set.
not long just wait few mins
Is the friends list still bugged?
One person I know is online in game, but they're not appearing; another, the system is claiming they're off in some unrelated map, friends only, but I'm staring dead at them in a public instance of The Pug
I got unfriended yesterday and it was a glitch. Sometimes I see them in no lists. Sometimes they see me like two worlds behind (yesterday) if there was a fix it would have been today
Why today?
Well I guess based on my timezone--because last night until I logged off at midnight there were still issues. Haven't checked today, but if its fixed it would have been aftet my log off I'd assume since the issues were still happening
Relogging updated the list. Nothing else would, though.
hi
What's going on vrchat? When I join to a world, it's slow and it doesn't load up
Hello
hii
Hru?
im alright, hbu?
Bored atm idk what I wanna do
hmmmm, got Sea of Thieves?
Noo I'll be getting it soon though
ah, when you do, fight a Kraken ||for me, i really need that crappy Kraken slain||
Rainbow Six Siege, Black Ops 4, Dead by Daylight, GTA 5, Elder Scrolls Online, Monster Hunter World, Overwatch, Trove, Minecraft, Gang Beast, Human Fall Flat, then some only single player games
oh ye, Apex too
You have all the games I want lmao all I have is paladins, realm Royale, vrchat, and Minecraft
XD wow
i was getting Paladins but stopped download because i couldnt wait to play more Overwatch

Hey I just got a job to buy things leave me be
xD
anybody down fore being friends?
@vocal shard what?
bc i like need friends
dont we all? ;n;
yeah
sure then, what's your name?
like in vrchat or name name?
a nick name
Jay
nice to meet you Jay, i'm Rocket
well it is nice to meet you too
im laying down right now to gain my energy, Sea of Thieves got me tired
xbox gamer?
yeah, i love PS4 and Xbox tho
on xbox?
yup
ive got those both, i mainly play GTA for driving and John Wick type scenes
me too
using a mustang to drift away from a 250-300 MPH car because people like killing me a lot, i'd rather have a tough car with control for drifting rather than a speedy car
then shooting them in the back of the head or their tires
i like kingsman like stuff
So many memory leaks up in here
What're you guys' favorite worlds?
Dont have one
Maybe one with many people,
But not one with so many people that it lags the server
The black cat
its active in terms of public worlds and it has a few mirrors to talk in and such
So people could have a conversation with themselves?
Because people talk to eachother?
Yeah people love to talk in front of mirrors
Because various reasons
I mean to each other btw
I noticed when I started making worlds without mirrors, people started appreciating the effort put into them more.
I'm to shy to talk to ppl unless you get me into a game where communicating is needed
Kinda sad in a way.
I cant make worlds
I noticed what others started doing was placing a mirror for n the world but you had to complete fun tasks to gain access to it.
I don't want to use my mic until I get a vr set
Honestly that sounds stupid. most people would avoid that world just because of the mirror having to be unlocked every time...
But when it comes to creating,
I want to make and upload my own avatars, and maybe my own worlds
Good frikkin luck
@molten gale The first climbing map did that, and I thought it was funny.
Seeing people desperately trying to complete it just to get it.
I can only do basic unity, cant even do blender
Sounds like a roblox obby
I mean its at least a climbing map, so thats fine
Just goes to show our how much creativity has gone a little dry.
but my frienda would just switch worlds for a mirror
When you're doing the climb it JUST for the mirror lol
I still wanna learn how to do animations and worlds
My avatars currently are just edits of model bases
But to upload, and avatars, I think that you have to be known
Added a clock to most, recolored stuff and edited shaders
New users can already upload i think
I really need to learn animations so I can add disappearing objects and such
But yeah making a world sounds very hard to learn
You just need motivation,, I didn't know I was going to go from not knowing what unity was to making worlds based off iconic video games.
I ended up enjoying it.
Im not that good at unity
Im honestly pretty bad
I was reallly happy when I got custom avatar backgrounds to work
Hmmm, It would be difficult I think
maybe when the game is more able to handle stuff like that
Yeah, the game is limited with making stuff like that.
Its not hardware, but software limits, I think
I mean, I played a doom map the other day and that worked a charm
I was astonished honestly.
anyways gtg
See ya Paci!
another feature that I've heard people talk about is the option to change the privacy settings on your homeworld
so instead of it always being private, you can set it up in the settings for it to be friends+ or a new public instance as soon as you log on.
You can do that by creating a startup shortcut using an instance link
@tender spear You can have something similar with the "Join me" status
Hello
Hello
hello
Hello
Did the latest windows update affect in game FPS for anyone?
no? can't really notice
anyone to play vrchat?
@vocal shard 
I was pet to death a few hours ago. 👀
Looks like you got revived then
Managed to get a nice cup of coffee to start my day so yes, yes I did.
If Udon is anything close to playmaker, Mario party would totally be possible
I read it as play plarty and mario maker xD
The only thing that scares me about udon is the lack of custom code blocks. There are some things I just don’t know how you can accomplish with only nodes
Are you not able to create custom nodes with internal logic and conditions?
@languid beacon oo i lov emario party, but then again it ruins friendship
I worked on a visual language years ago where you could write your own blocks with conditions and loops and custom inputs and outputs and use them either internally in another block or publish it as a seperate re usable node
That would be nice to have in udon
My concerns come purely from never using visual scripting; ever. I only have ever typed code by hand. I can’t think in visual nodes. At all. I can’t wrap my head around coding without code
Hopefully it'll be similar to blender's node system in that you can make a custom node out of a massive tree of existing nodes.
probably, even scratch can do that, no?
Visual scripting is this whole world that I’ve never even touched
have you used and type of node based anything?
Nope!
👀 learning time
I have over 5 years of C++ jobs and like 10 years of C#-like scripting
Never touched a visual node
I think the idea is neat. Sounds impractical though
maybe, in 3d art its used really often, substance painter is all node based and blender too
i feel like its more for those kinds of people, but im sure you can pick it up pretty easy since youd know what youre looking for
Yeah it seems more like setting up a steady state process which is suited for materials or shaders but I can’t see how that works in terms of game logic and choice and procedural code
Visual programming languages can be super simple and not powerful at all and used for a single purpose or super complex and nearly or just as powerful as a written language. The issue is there's so many different kinds but they all get grouped together.
But my concerns are just from a guy who knows nothing about it and is just like “ew something new and different” I am simply entirely naive to it
I wrote a few games in a visual programming language we were building at my last job and I basically recreated a gameboy pokemon game in it. Was very powerful. Issue was organising the code in a readable manner.
It was so visually cluttered and hard to read once you make something relatively more complex than some small demo.
Thats the difference between a good and bad dev
Making clean, optimized code that is readable for others without spending months to read it
Anyone can code anything with enough time and google.
Not anyone can make proper code...
My main beef with “unity without typing any custom scripts” is how slow setting things up takes
Like even simple radio buttons took me a while
Doing everything with the animation system and animator parameters not sure if I’m doing that right
I'm entirely in the same position
at least compared to normal workflow; got used to a lot of the VRC-specific workflow in time
Morning everyone
Good evening
I’m not sure if it’s just me but setting up vrc world logic feels like tin cans and strings tied everywhere in a mess
Almost redstone level
Ok not quite that bad
Using animator parameters for everything that is
I haven't looked into it since I've been waiting for Udon or some form of proper scripting, but from the things I've heard, it sounds like a pretty big hack and I am surprised people have made the worlds they have with it.
The final fantasy world lakuza made awhile back was one of the first worlds I tried when I came back to VRChat and it blew my mind but we haven't seen too much like it since
my vrchat wont work
not loading at all
i tried clearing the cache
and restarting my computer
no
Well sometimes I click on them and they are online in some world but it still says "Active"
might be because they have the game running and the website open
So the website doesn't have a priority system where In-World shows up rather than Active when that's the case?
Or is it just random chance 🤔
Question: You guys think there would be any interest in making non objective world reviews for different worlds in written/document/image form?
Considering I haven't found a forum that actually discusses about about worlds, especially the finished ones
I've also been thinking about working on this project because of people making critiques about how difficult it is to find decent worlds nowadays
Im sure there is an audiance for it but we already kinda have an event for exploring new worlds (or close to finished ones) in the weekly meetup.
And i think that the average VRC group that doesnt explore worlds yet will not care as its 'too much work' to read revieuws and ect.
I mean you could explore a bunch of worlds, highlight the ones that are good and make a review as a steam guide
What the heck, does anyone else have a problem with dynamic bones not uploading
are they enabled in the safety settings and then performance options?
Do they show up in the stats?
@broken plover I saw you were just playing "Nichts"
How very suspicious
lol
Huh, the website got an update
Yeah that's actually super nice to see who's with who
That and it seems like it now reliably shows when they were last online
Also that moment when some random user removes you and you have no idea who that was
I know a friend who has a nice world called “a private world” with the private world icon as a world picture. It’s public
I had one who was in a loading screen world
I want to visit there
Like why does that even exist
I saw that "private world" world and im like...You [nah]ing mad lad.
For people like me
how do i get the loli police with the guns avatar
Hey, anyone know how to disable the barrier thing on the Vive that keeps you from walking into walls?

I hope you don't mean this terrifying thing https://www.deviantart.com/laino001/art/Mimic-Girl-802635826
Well I have no VR headset, but the game works fairly well in desktop mode
Kinda
I mean functionality is obviously missing but it's neat anyway
Wow real social anxiety!
Why?
I have no idea
Social anxiety in VRChat when talking to people? (or not talking lol)
I'm fairly proud of my voice, but having people come up to me and just start chatting gave me a bit of an anxiety kick
didn't expect that
Yeah, a lot of people in VRChat have anxiety but as soon as they notice that most of the people around them also have anxiety they get along with each other pretty well and you don't even notice it anymore
o/
Gonna steer clear of the SAO avatars...
I'm not a fan. And I'm don't want to give people even more reason for thinking I took my name from one of the characters
I'm new at this VRChat thing give me a break
Checked out the muscle pokemon avatar world, a swole pokemon started flexing at me. I immediately feel the drawbacks to being in desktop mode
Yep, it's a struggle.
Oh hell I'm on the hunt now. Surely someone has made a Holo avatar (from spice and wolf)
im on desktop
hi
can i heart emoji my vrchat nickname?
I don’t believe emoji work. ANSI hearts might though. https://graphemica.com/♥
Keep in mind discord auto converts many ansi symbols to emoji
So copy them from the web
hi ppl
most emojis are should work
Elloo
Eh sometimes the ranking system is just a pain in the ass.
Emoji in avatar names? In VRChat?
Yeah there’s a lot of older ansi symbols that are not full blown Unicode emoji
ahh, so if you want funky symbols youd have to look for those :sweat
a lot of symbols just come up as blank too
Open character map in windows. If it’s not on there it won’t work. Even then it might not
but if i put heart emoji in my nickname on vrchat, will that emoji appear to people?
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/617359716619780306/623598630535823380/unknown.png So apparently the website was like this for a while today but now it's back to default
for some reason i cant load into vrchat
@meager solstice I just refreshed the website and it didnt have the brand new look anymore
Nope, I dont have it anymore D:
Maybe they removed it and I still have the “new” look
Anyone been in that Doom world, with the authentically replicated levels and working enemies?
I just made a gun that shoots love hearts, that works against the enemies. :v
Is rather amusing.
Yeah that world is lit
which heart emoji site works on vrchat, does anyone know a site?
Like for a name?
they mean for a name
or just dont use symbols 🐒
Gonna ask again, this time regarding the website though: is there something wrong with the way the game handles online friends? I'm looking at someone on the website, it says they're "active", which means online. But clicking their name shows a "user is offline" image.
strange, i can't even access the website right now 
Active with yellow frame means logged in on website
^Thats probably it, yeah.
its always a nince day in vr chat when someone deliberately crashes your game with some emote on their skin
Avatars. 
im at school lmao
lol
anyone else having login problems like the login bar stoping at like 80% then just giving a error saying failed to login try again later?
@vocal shard It's a Steam-side issue
ohh
You can log in via username if you have an account but Steam is being dumb atm
ohh ok ty ❤
I’m having the same issue on my quest but with my vrchat login
Woah
How big the F
🤔
well...I can't log on.
Sam
it gets to 80% and then big rip
yea same
i can't login either
I needed to log on too for a friend.
VRchat broke
is this a steam login thing or vrchat messed up all together
lol and im not making another acc
neither
Suggestion on the correct channel to ask where to find an original avatar Model? Since the kicking bot is super hyper sensitive I guess
@pale condor you mentioned that website and the message got deleted, didnt you
I guess the bot is super super sensitive about it. be nice if it said that in the rules >.<
It does tho... rule 13
unless i'm too tired to understand the hinting in one of the rules but shrugs i have no clue. checks
Dw, I too did do that mistake before
So everyone still having a hard time logging into VRChat?>
If you want you can dm me your question and ill see if its fine or not. I will likely not be able to help tho.
Well hopefully i worded it better this time ... and hopefully there's at least a 3 strike system with the touchy bot
Ive spent 3 weeks trying to get my SDK to work, I better get an answer to my support ticket soon 😂
Sooo, how do wear a rift properly with glasses ? I don’t want to be shortsighted in VR ...
you kinda dont
theres not much extra space, so if youcant figure it out they likely dont fit
:(
So I will always be shortsighted in VR ?
Or is it something my brain adapts to ?
just get some prescription lenses
you can buy them online, or buy glasses that are small enough, however unless you get plastic lenses on the glasses it will scratch your headset lenses.
I’m having trouble logging in too
your brain definitely wont adapt lol its your eyes that are the ptroblem
wtf...
does anyone know if I have to create a new support ticket to reply to an earlier one?
This isn't a dating server.
@regal merlin No not really, you could just follow up from the previous ticket number.
Im currently trying to find how to do that XD
If the ticket is in your inbox, reply through that one.
Have you tried logging into the website?
It could be server side then.
ive logged in and out fine, weird
I just want to play for a little bit :/
On both ends. I try my email or username. And it says invalid username or password
you’ve probably been perma banned
If your logging into the game with an steam account big odds steam login broke
itd say you were banned if you were
I think it’d notify them that they’ve been banned
i know it sounds dumb but are you sure your typing in your details correctly @vocal shard
Its already confirmed that the steam servers were attacked
ah, sounds about right then lol
This might explain why some are able to log in. https://downdetector.com/status/steam/map/
I had same prob with login thro stream my alt acc worked its just a vrc no merg
That was hours ago tho
please.add.more.favorite.freakingslots.or.make.it.UNLIMITED
Not likely to happen. 16 is already plentiful
I once had all 16 slots full and I wanted to favourite another avatar, but then I unfavorited the avatars that I dont really need. So now I only have about 8
I actually dont need them anyways because i do my own avatars but I still favorite some
I think having only a few avatars makes sense since you should find an avatar which you can identify with
That's just one style of playing
I know, farming meme, cancer and crasher avatars is another way to play but I personally don't like those people to flood the community
That's not really the same thing lol
I know, those are different playstyles
I mean saying you "should" find an avatar you identify with
it's not really how it works lol
Sorry but I don't quite get your point
That's not necessarily the thing everyone "should" do?
I didn't mean it in a "you have to" way
ahh ok
most people just use the lewder models
I guess?
i cant join a single world without seeing an army of them
Well, if people can identify with that 😄 Or get turned on by that, who knows
must be joining the wrong worlds lol
i play on worlds like the block, the great pug, never have i ever. etc
someone watched me fall today and didnt do anything
what are they gonna do lol