#vrchat-general-2
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The Pug is very optimized ๐ค
avatar test world doesnt run slow unless too crowded
go to like void or club vgl turn all effects on
or volt
volt lags for me in the private rooms a bit
yesterday I was in the great pug with a friend (the instance was pretty full) and I didnt really lag that much. when loading in yes but after that It ran normally
yea the one with the car
Pug never gets above 300 draw calls (without avatars), and it's seemingly designed around breaking up sight lines for culling
I'm alone in the great pug and I have solid 90fps
Avatars just kill frametime
it's there a default one?
idk just was thinking lol i dont use it i test my avatar in my home world
well, I go there not to test avatars because thats something you can do even on the site you get the avatar itself but to meet people. Lot of random people there after all
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oh thats true ^_^ i test before i scare people lol
cuz some of my avatrs do crazy stuff
i have my first avatar i ever did and i use it to mess with people its creepy lol
from all the places that I visited so far, one of the worst I found is "Voxel Miko House". On desktop it's fine but in VR it goes down a lot and I don't know why. I guess it's because they use dynamic lighting with real time shadows otherwise idk because the world it's all made of silly models. I have to add tho, that depending on the source of those models, it could also be the reason of the performance hit. Models made with "voxels" may result on a lot of unnecessary polys. But polys rarely gives that hard time. It's a pretty small world, shouldn't have that performance
hmmm thats odd i dont think ive been to that world tbh
i think it was one of those labs world or something
just randomly exploring ๐
not worth visiting. It was a stupid small world
haha yea i go exploring sometimes just for the hell of it
like i made my new homeworld the home of time cuz it was pretty
thats cool do u make models kuro
ive been just learning how to edit, add animations, dynamic bones, shaders, add music and some other stuff and now optimization is not my strong suit lol
i just do models
yea i make private stuff right now and sometimes make stuff for friends
oh thats cool cant wait to see it
oooooo thats cool ive been trying to make mine non wolf boy lol its hard to find
i got one model i made for a friend thats a wolf boy
well i mainly use unity idk how to delete the ears lol
its not that i dont care its kinda hard and i work a lot lol ive used it a bit but i dont have the base models idk how to export back to blender
like i only have the unity files
cuz i havent made my own model yet really i have one but its super scuffed lol
yea thats what i got to learn
i work like 55 hrs a week i know blender is time consuming i mess with it on the weekends tho
right now im learning the easy stuff then once i got that im gonna focus on making from scratch and making my own bases
hmm i might try that i have horrible memory thats why i learn better doing with like one of my friends coaching me lol
but i mean i know a little bit i just get frustrated with the clothes part and the clipping ๐
i have no clue how to do that idk ill have to watch some vids lol just now started getting more into it
yep u lost me but ill get there and start making stuff i can say thats purely mine
i dont take credit for my edits i just take credit for the editing and adding the dynamic bones lol
Anyone know how to fix lag issues?
For some reason whenever I play this game with the screen up it freezes my screen for 10-20 seconds, moves for 3-5 seconds and repeats
If I have the game minimized it functions perfectly at 45-90 fps. I'm playing on the original Oculus Rift
ummm have u cleared your cache and what r ur safety settings
Safety settings is all off and I haven't cleared it
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turn safety up to normal and go to performance and clear your cache
itll help with lag
and clean out your comps storage its what i do when i get laggy
It starts lagging as soon as I start up the game so it isn't a world issue. I'll clear it though
hmm have u checked your comps storage or running apps in the background and is your comp or apps up to date
im just running through my head what i would do
All my apps are up to date but sometimes I have steam up and tells me I need to update my gamer drive so im assuming it's that. As far as storage goes I have 54G free
i mean like do u have a lot of temp files or trash files built up
Might also be handy if we knew what specs you are running on so we can see there is a problem there
It's an Intel core I7 I think it is a 1060 or 1070 but that's all I remember honestly
Got any idea how much ram you got?
Welp fairly sure to say then that most of it is fine
Are all your drivers up to date, is windows up to date?
I need to upgrade my graphics card
Says that when I pull up the mini tool for steam vr though
id update it then prob
sweet thanks for the help both of you. I thought I manually had to buy a new component and replace the old one but i had the wrong mind ๐ Im really hoping it works
i hope so too ^_^
For VR stuff i'd always try to keep cards updated to keep things smooth if possible x]
I hope it works out
I want toaster bath
You don't. modern toasters have a safety mechanism to switch off on contact with water
At least I hope so, I read that somewhere on the internet
and its not a reliable source of information
sup
soup
im depressed
I wish I could relate my dude.
mhm
If you are depressed, find out the issue at the core of it and address that directly.
oh ik what it is
Willing to share?
my gf commited suicide
Thats pretty brutal my guy. Switch to random chat for maximum effect
Nah you don't call me. Because I'm not ready to look for my headset, plug it in, stick it on my face, switch sound input/output and then talk
But I will say the following: Ride it out, feel what you need to feel and let time cure your wounds... because time does exactly that.
welp i gtg
be safe
anyone wanna do a horror map with me on vrchat?
What, you a wuss? can't do it on your own?
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I like how there was no response
i would like too, but not in the mood
im never in the mood cuz im a pussy ๐ >u> ๐
Me too Solar, me too
fuck outta here with that screenspace jumpscare shit
That sounds fun
i was playing lost teddy the other day, bloody girl crawling towards you
see, that i could have fun with. i'd still be scared shitless but like at the very least they're trying to genuinely terrify you
idk why but i cant fucking handle those cheap ass jumpscares on the other hand
Jumpscares are not scary, well made, original or fun even.
Its why i never liked FNAF for example, its just png's with loud sound flying towards you after the first game.
im a massive shill for psychological horror and what not but still too scared to play those kinds of games on my own >~< not sure where to find them either
And why i wanted to die in the Death Space map as you had no idea when something real would be there that wasnt just a simple screenshake or world shader
Ever played Outlast? That game's a freakin' jump scare show
ehh, fnaf vr is cool tho, solely for semi-nostalgic-ish purposes
Except most of 'em don't kill you and you can't avoid running into them
outlast doesnt look pleasant
Yeah Fnaf VR is really cool. I'd say it works even better in VR as the game doesn't so heavily rely that you flip your camera up and down to jumpscare you. It's not a "If I open my camera / close my camera, I might get jump scared"
More like "I can die at any moment and see 'dem fuckers walking past my door"
one of the things that i wasnt sure about when it came to old fnaf wasnt with the horror but with the gameplay itself
IIRC things got very intensely luck based on night 5 (and especially on those 20 day challenges) that people had to start figuring out some very precise algorithms just to get through it
im still not sure if thats cool or lazy design
more talking about the PC games and not VR for fnaf because of what you guys wrote
i hope that kind of thing was curbed in the VR version since you can't really play the game at like 20 billion APM with vr controllers
Also the answer is lazy
Gotta milk that horror trend before it dies as they always do once they get saturated enough
idk how many games are out there that give you a fighhting chance, but id live to see the day of a psychological / active combat horror where THE ENEMY isnt some antisocial fuck hhiding in the corner to cheap scare me at the last moment
id be more engaged and less terrified out of my mind and genuinely horrified to fight against an opponent thats, ykno, actually blood lusted
Tbh combat and horror are kind of meh. I guess horror shooters are a thing, but personally the type of games where you can't just face off against the enemy are the better ones
Most of the being scared comes from not being able to fight or even properly run in horror games. Its why horror VR freaks me the fuck out
For me it is usually the anticipation for something to happen
I can't even tell me how often I got scared by a stack of books falling over in Amnesia simply because I was already feeling uneasy.
Well thats because you cant fight anything that happens. Books falling can also be a monster that can stomp you. And as all you can do is run anything you hear or see makes you want to run.
Hmm I have yet to play a Custom Map with books as enemies
Not to mention that Amnesia is kind of... let's say that the moment you realize that dying means absolutely nothing, the monsters stop being scary.
But what about the chase? The tension of being found out?
The feeIing that your hiding spot may not be enough
But if the atmosphere of the level is already making you feel uncomfortable + does a few suspicious things here and there where objects are just in different places, then pretty much anything happening can spook you.
In base game Amnesia, hiding is easy and monsters despawn after they're done with their patrol. Really the only levels where that wasn't the case was the water one
Aka the one level everyone hated because you had a monster that you couldn't see that would chase you if you were in the water.
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And then it becomes a panic run to the next object you can stand on. All the other enemies though? They usually don't respawn when you die and you don't lose progress when you die.
What's going on?
The best way for them to get to one box to another, especially a far one, is if one can get as much distance from the monster as possible. It's done by throwing a piece of meat at the far end of a corner. It lures the monster, or Kaernk, into that corner.
That works in the second room, but not in the first hallway you spawn in
Right. Say, wouldn't something like that be possible in VRChat
Needless to say that either way it's terrifying because you hate being in the water, and you need to be in the water to open the second door which takes a while
Also in Amnesia, most enemies announce themselves with a spawn sound + music
I dunno how much you can do in Unity but for the very least having like a Maze with one monster occupying it that will chase you without making it super obvious that it is doing that could work
although im a little bit of a wuss
but thats what makes it so challenging to do them
I know that I made a mission like that in Arma 3 where you were in like a maze with various different enemies walking around and chasing you on sight. It was super dark and while you could run from most of 'em, you first had to figure out that something was behind you to begin with
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Anyhow, I haven't played any of the horror maps in VRChat yet, but I'm worried that they'll just be cheap jumpscare after cheap jumpscare every minute
some yes
some puzzles.. its still all limited to basic triggers sadly.. still hoping for that scripting tool but i think security concerns prevent it from ever releasing
Then again I can just play Murder and get jumpscared by that one person sprinting around the corner
The Halloween event is right around the corner
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Some spooky maps should start appearing
the big sister dungeon is a good starter
Noted
now it has sequel maps too, so you can go out and enjoy more of it later
i had to wait for it to release
ive done part 1 a few times, had to show my friends 
That moment when you friend count increases by one but nothing happened

@inner cape what has sequel maps? ๐ฎ
the big sister dungeon
theres part 1 and 2
buuut its been months, moooonths since the last time i checked, so i dont know what else the creator been up to
oh yeah ive played those
but there is another game by saiyon now
like a few.. on wdks or something and another one involving a girl
i will revisit them when i get back into playing vrchat
Question: When someone merges their account, then it adds their merged account as friend if you are friended with their Steam account?
get back into playiiing
Because it looks like that this has just happened.
um, wot
Yeah
does it bother you?
I was just on the website and all of the sudden, someone apparently added me as friend
No, it just confuses me because it shouldn't be possible for someone to randomly add me without any notification about it happening.
So I checked through my list and found two people with very similar names, except one's a VRC account, the other is an Oculus one.
bologna is just a hot dog pancake

So I asked because I wanted confirmation for my own observation :)
Mhe
Amazingly enough, that person has already made a name change with that account that they've apparently only now merged
oof
Yup
I mean, I can see why people would want it, but I guess they can't see the negative impact it would have on a lot of players
The only thing I would agree with is the ability to send short messages directly towards a specific user, either just as messages, as part of an invite ect
You didn't read what I just said, did you?

no i mean the people who want to type
How would you talk when you're not in the same world
like full on chat system type
direct messages would be nice at the very least
day 1 lol
Nametags are already annoying as frick
Automated responses would be nice I guess, just for invites
Not automated
And direct messages would indeed be nice. Could also be implemented into the website
That way people could send a DM if their mute charade isnt making sense, and you can DM people who are in private lobbies crying about private lobbies 
Right now, unless you both so happen to use Discord, you have to wait until they randomly show up ingame to talk to them
"both so happen to use discord" you say it as if that's uncommon lol
Not everyone includes their Discord information in their status like I do
That's why I wouldn't be against premade responsse
But I wouldn't see much harm in having a system that allows you to send short private messages to other users
"Can't invite, not room owner" "Busy" etc
Or DMs
use Valves steam controller keyboard system
for the controllers
since they all have touchpad/joystk
It wouldn't even break anything for the rest of us. VR users aren't going to send a lot of messages while in VR, being able to do that via the website means you can stay in contact even when you're not ingame right now, you can communicate with friends who aren't in your world and desktop users still have to deal with getting a mic if they want to properly talk
Unless they intend on sending private messages to every person in the instance
Just something I'd personally like since you rely a lot on either knowing their Discord name or meeting them ingame when both of you happen to be on at the same time
Even right now there's a lot of VR mutes around too who refuse to talk for various reasons. Those people also so happen to be the ones I chat with on Discord the most.
Think of it more as a mailing system rather than text chat. Maybe that idea is more acceptable
"just talk 4hed"
Mic doesn't get it
I get it
No you don't.
ok
template answers, sort of like google recommends you with emails are fine
actual chat - not ๐ฟ
And why not?
cause i said so
More of an "on principal" thing to be honest
In the same room? Fucking talk
Template answers? Sure, convenient
Then I say, yes this would be good because I said so too
It's unnecessary to implement a whole chat system when there's already a very convenient method that's existed for millions of years
verbal communication

Template answers are a good convenience for when youre in roomsthat others arent
And that is why you don't get it.
what do i not get
Accessibility options are never a bad thing and wont detract from your experience ๐ฆ
The fact that I can't verbally communicate with someone unless I so happen to be on at the same time and in the same room
So if you're not, join that room
That assumes that they're online.
.......
I already explained that to you.
So you want a whole system in place to chat with offline people
So that we can agree on a time to be online together, yes.
Why does VRC have to make this though? Why can't you share your discords?
Sometimes i'm watching a movie but talking to a friend on discord using the oculus dash while i could do it in game if a mail/text system existed.
i would totally support a mailbox system. But a chat based in room conversation i highly disagree with.
Why would we have to use Discord when that's something that the game should support out-of-the-box without additional software?
^ Paul
Convenience & accessibility
Regular text chat for everyone in the room would be one of the worst things they could do. A mailing system which you could even use from the website wouldn't have that problem.
@rigid crescent not only are you assuming that everyone uses discord and that the exchange of info happened, you also think that just cus a third party solution exists a first party solution would be stupid?
- Mail is already a thing tbh ; I use the API to send fake world invite with custom text to some friends tbh lmao
Lol
Thats a hack, and we want it in game.
ofc ; it would be better to have it in game instead of having to use the API like that
Not stupid, just a waste of time
if you think so thats fine, everyone has their own opinion.
Rather, a waste of development time
Allthought most will disagree with you
not a waste of people using it's time
template answers can be replaced with limited written messages, so you can reply yourself, but in short
That's fine, most people disagreed with them removing Veteran rank lol
Personally I'd agree on removing all ranks tbh
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For real, they all suck
Cuts down on the time to setup custom safety as well
they dont really do anything at this point
People disagreed because they were thinking in the short run.
Seriously, I only need two ranks for custom safety: Friends, and everyone else
I think they disagreed because they saw it as an achievenet
and you know how brainlets get with those
Absolutely.
"muh gaymur sc0re"
"I need my 50 discord tags and special color nameplate to feel unique"
Why is it a waste of development time btw?
There's a lot more we need, that seems more like a luxury
Like?
Oh, no one said it had to go in the front of the stack.
basically the entire roadmap, mason
We just want it, like we want other things, no priority queue ๐
I'm not gonna list everything that's higher priority than text chat, sorry
Just because its a waste of time currently doesnt mean its bad
i already did 
For as long as you keep the mindset of it being text chat, you'll never understand how it can be useful.
I honestly just wish for a scripts that i can use in world to remove particles system & another one to remove anything using a grabpass in an area.
But uh, that's just me.
Are private messages in a forum text chat? Because that's how it would be.
I understand how it can be useful
But there's extremely convenient alternatives that exist, so it's not very important
I never said it was.
its however also not very hard and has existed allthough accidentally available for a periode allready
"Existed accidentally" you mean like how the "Last online X days ago" exists accidentally on the website?
i would die to remove the 1k friends i have not online since 2 months gosh
So do it
Personally I just don't see any big negatives with a mailing system because it would not replace talking when in the same room. Especially not if it was limited to just messages between friends to prevent people from spamming notifications in yet another way.
And you could combine it with premade replies for common phrases to save yourself some time.
Give me a way to have the last time they connected and i'll do it 
Press F5 until it randomly shows up
Then realize that expanding it hides it again, or doesnt show it for the expanded ones
kappa
That's also something I'd want: Knowing when a person was last online. Then again, it technically doesn't really matter because ingame I usually just look at who's online, not who's offline and on the website, online friends are always listed on top.
So for as long as there's no limit in how many friends you can have, the huge collection of offline friends doesn't really matter all that much.
thats in the API, so probalby planned
Sigh
Well wait, what is? Seeing when they were last online or a limit to the friends list?
Asking because, yes, there are certain platforms where there is a limit to that
the first one
last online
anyone else having troubles setting advanced settings binding for the new steam update? It's so broken for me.
Update your advanced settings
is there a new release?
Depends when you last updated...?
will do
There's no new version of the advanced settings right now
do you guys know how to take screenshots in vr mode with users and their names on top of their heads? cuz all of my screenshots doesn't have people's name on their head
using the camera ofc
The camera automatically hides all the UI
You need to take a steam screenshot if you want that stuff
Steam button + Trigger on the Vive. Ya know, the button below the touch pad
i see
@ยญMic_Sounders
i'm starting to think theres something wrong with loading in worlds 
What makes ya think of that?
because typing on discord message are instantly sent and loading in worlds takes forever
I mean I'm world hopping right now without issues
Why does the game always freeze whenever I try to close it
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reported in november 2017
Time to bake my light ; anyone have a movie to recommend ?
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Looking for fellow Jojo fans or friends
@vocal shard search for HTF avatars world and its in there
@slate verge Oh ok thank you very much
Beep
hello
is anyone by chance drinking and playing vrc ?
i am gonna get really fucked up tomorrow
does anyone want to join?
only because it will be my bday?
i wanna get fucked uyp with people


Hello ^^
hi
Hru
hi
Lol I want vr headset so bad now x3
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Hey. I got a MAJOR issue would anyone mind helping me real quick
Please ๐ญ like I legit canโt play the game
Thatโs how bad it is
might as well post the issuea nd if someone knows theyll tell you
Try being locked out of every site because cloudflare blocked you. xd
I accidentally switched into my huge avatar and canโt switch out and Iโm stuck in my home world
Didn't everyone already do that :3
The only way I can switch is to clone someone
If anyone doesnโt mind helping me real quick that would be appreciated lol
Go to vrcdefault home and there's avatars on the wall
Heckin oculus has poisoned my mind.
@dapper tendon Press both Ctrl and \ while in desktop mode
You will load into the default avatar
i dont have vr ;v;
risky click of the year
yup
Hello gamers
sup nub ๐
if you did click that tell us what was behind it (in the most family friendly way possible)
Time to get my windows sandbox open and see what that kinky link is all about
<@&397642795457970181> they're spamming horse porn
what the f? xD
im bout to
ping an @placid umbra or something bro
one by one til that shits gone lol
no reason the mods shoudl have the tag on if they're not modding, jfc
I joke, its a link to some shady dating site. I just wanted to see if anyone would click on a link claimed to be horse porn
there we go ty
Why do I get 200 ping on vrchat? I live In the uk
Because the servers are within the US
I'm in the UK and 200 ping is a good day
XD
I usually hang around 175 ping in the NL
Unplug your router.
A feature I want is ability to just turn off peopleโs ability to see what instance you are in, even if itโs public. That might be controversial though and might ruin the game. IDK.
Offline? xd
Iโd be out in public instances a lot more, though
Not necessarily hide as offline. I donโt want to hide as offline. Iโm fine with people knowing Iโm on so they can invite me or whatever, I just donโt want them joining my public instances
I wouldnโt use hide as offline because in my experience it leads to social friend drama lol
Welp, I was drinking in VRC and the drama literally found me. No place where you interact with people will be drama free.
Iโve actually been entirely drama free in vrc since I joined, itโs a breath of fresh air actually.
Everyone does, I think... but you never know where axes will fall
I just stay out of drama, idk how, i just do
Compared to past games Iโve been in, itโs a very chill game
This i agree with
I think vr being closer to being in the same room as other people makes people behave better
I want to meet new people, my problem is any random public world I go to ends up being me hanging with the same crowd as my friends slowly appear and assimilates whatever crowd was already there
ah, i see
here's an easy tip, alt account
ew
Yeah an alt account would fix it but thatโs a bandaid to a social issue
Itโs not, just like hiding offline, you get discovered and thereโs hurt feelings. Iโd prefer to be up front about it. Yeah, Iโm online, yeah, you canโt see where I am.
Send an invite if you want
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anyway yeah i'm not making an alt. annoying to grind it to get upload ability and then there's keeping avatars updated across two accounts - sounds like a can of worms. I've always liked keeping everything on one account
I make sure to tell them never join on me

Doesn't Yeah, Iโm online, yeah, you canโt see where I am. cause the same issues as an alt or hiding offline?
Imagine you're trying to hang with quieter friends and your loud drunk ones join
Every, single, time
I tell them to shut up, they usually do and mute their mics
The thing is, they're fuckin drunk lmao
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my friends drink Jamaican rum and 80prof vodka, but still understand when to shut up
im sure everyone is just like your friend
Yes, that's your friend lmao, and one of them
No, all of them will. However strangers is a different story
Have had better luck with strangers than "that one drunk friend"
just block/mute them problem solved
How?
That doesn't undo them coming in and bothering everyone else, nor does it undo them doing it again
you can't always control them, but you can go to an invite+
All bad solutions lol
Invite+ 
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I'm out
Just get them distracted, go to invite+ send invites problem solved
most boring maps i've been to outside of parties and events
OK then no one ELSE can join
Always worked
just dont have drunk friends kappa
It only takes one
Yes, it works to prevent them from joining, it also deters/prevents others from joining
Invite+ definitely dosn't have the same environment as friends+ lol
Invite+ calm nice environment
No one said it had to be calm or quiet or whatever
Friends+ hectic
invite+ =
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Friends+ = 
Outside of events and parties, Invite+ is boring as hell most of the time
odd, we usually sleep in publics and friends+
Unless you're some super interesting god, people seldom request invites from a private room person
Just VRC culture
Even with the existence of Invite+, it's assuming you're inaccessible for a reason
many people join me on invite+ blue status
That's kinda the nature of the word private
seemingly inaccessible at least. That and the people who don't want to be in a private, Invite+ or otherwise (like me and a few others here obviously) aren't going to join either
Blue status is different lmao, that literally just friend+ again for that person
just turn it off when it's enough
Or regular friends rather
Friends can manage who can join in, who can't
It's kind of just devil's advocate at this point lol
"Go to invite+" is not a good solution for avoiding one drunk person, that's just a fact
Not sure how you think it's not a good solution
Because it comes with a massive set of issues
Always worked
Just because it works doesn't make it a good idea?
I can shoot my boss to get out of work, doesn't make it a good idea lol
Aren't you trying to avoid a drunk friend
But sure, it works
That's the whole point of the idea..
Don't you guys have smartphone ecksdee
ew
Losing access to a significant portion of my friends list and other possible new people/acquaintances as a result? Not great.
Not sure why you think that, but worked out great all the time for my friends
I mean I explained it
You "lose access to a significant portion of my friends list as well as other people"
You act like none of us have ever been in an invite+ room before...
Sounds like it
this is so bad 
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You know there's like, a delete button
Hi
Greetings
Hey thanks for the advice last night with the murder game I met a few amazing ppl
Oof, I always have a hard time with that game. Now, Battle Discs? I can do that.
I actually met Jar in a murder lobby last night
Placed down an invite portal for the Murder 3 map
thats pretty cool ive made a lot of friends through murder
vrchat scuffed again today? i cant load into any worlds without sitting in the loadingscreen for around 15 minutes, staring at a blank screen sitting at 0% and the worlds filesize is empty
what have you attempted to fix the issue so far?
Clear cache? @lofty tundra
i dont even know what to do to fix that except clearing cache
and yes, i cleared mine, still does it
restart pc or router ๐คท
And/or reinstall the game ๐คท
it was working perfectly fine like 6 hours ago. was only shutting down my pc after vrc, then slept a little and then hoped into vrc, meaning i did not install or uninstall or changed anything on my end
oof
Welcome to Windows.
Things not working via random chance is pretty normal. I just dunno how to fix that problem in particular since I never really had it myself.
Only issue I ever had was avatars refusing to load but a game restart usually fixed that
i bet 100% if i start up another game and play that for a little and join back in vrc, i wont have that issue anymore
spaghetti code of vrc 
Mason. That is the realest statement I've heard today
:D
I really hate when avatars refuse to load btw
Not just all the other avatars from other people may stop loading, but my own one takes a very long time to load as well and I can't cancel it.
hi everyone just joined
same
i'm quite addicted to this game so far
sadly no
but i'm enjoying it a whole lot even without one
i won't be able to save up for one
Boop
its too expensive for someone like me
but i'm happy playing this way, maybe some day i'll get to try it out in vr
Yeah, it's an expensive hobby if you get into it. Went from PSVR to a Vive and now I have an Index with full body trackers. Lots of muns...
I just have the regular Vive with FBT but I paid a stupidly high price for the trackstaps due to shipping costs and customs.
VR is like the one thing that's given me a real excuse to actually upgrade my PC
Yeah, I forgot that it costs extra to import from non EU countries
rip
Could've done that smarter but oh well
ยฏ_(ใ)_/ยฏ
I have it now so whatever
Mhm.
I enjoyed the Vive more with those.
I really don't like those huge TV remotes of a controller
It also gets in the way when trying to throw grenades in Onward or H3VR
Dunno who was at fault for designing them, but they should've taken notes from the Touch controllers.
I recall having seen new HTC controllers that look very similar to those, actually.
the ones from the vive cosmos
but they only work with the cosmos... they could have put lighthouse tracking in them
The index has full finger tracking. You dont even need to touch the controller with your finger and it's still tracked. (according to reviews)
I know it has, but ya know how gestures in VRC can have props, animations or facial expressions
So I am curious how you trigger those specifically. Do you just do the specific gesture manually and it'll detect it as being that?
I think its kinda like with oculus touch. you do the gestures with your real hand and then it triggers them
https://docs.vrchat.com/docs/valve-index Under gesture toggle it says that "if you press in the left thubstick vrchat will attempt to match your current finger pose against the standard vrchat hand poses. any applied gesture overrides will play, however your hand pose will not change even if youve defined an override for your hand position"
hello
Greetings
im new
And lazy
thyre the only thing sold out of the index stuff
They're also the only thing I'm interested in
theyre the only thing most people are interested in. they cost as much as a pair of vive controllers
Hi everyone i am new
Welcome
SteamVR 2.0... eh?
Im having problems logging into vrchat
Dont hate me VRchat community bc I love you very much. My news years goal was to create my own VR avatar and through alot of tears and trials I made it happen. Thank you to @vestal pier for your MAJOR advice and help. Im grateful. If any of you VR loves wanna see it here it is. Dont mean to offend anyone with this. ๐ค #holdthereigns https://youtu.be/6AR-F17_3Qg
@vestal pier is an video. My goal was to create the avatar of myself and upload content. its supposed to be a video. I put it also in #shameless-self-promotion
the video isnt your avatar, its a ยฃ1000 kebab tasting trial...
wtf thats not was its supposed to be. hold up @vestal pier
Thanks for the french kebab video though!
You know him too well, he loves Kebab
The link now goes to the right place, im very confused...
did anyone said kebab
It legit did lead to kebab video
No for real it was kebab at first
i look like a KEBAB at least my stache does lol
bruh
kebab kebap kebab kebap
Kpop?
sounds legit lol. Hope everyone is going GRAVY lol
Why are you using that type of walking :notlikethis:
Wassup d;)
Hello
how r u
hey guys vr chat isn't working and i cant see any forums that describe the problem
Well that's tricky. What problem specifically?
so anyone having problems
Hi everyonee
hello earthling
What are some good VRC horror maps?
lost teddy
grannys apartment
hallo
Greetings
hi
Greetings

What's poppin y'all
wut IISS poppin
Imagine being able to play VRchat without it crashing as soon as you load in
Wouldn't that be wacky?
You mean like how I've been playing the game all the time?
I managed to play without crashing today even with FTB, playspacemover and advanced settings enabled
If any of my devices time out, my controllers and trackers (and head) switch places, making me have to restart. But that's basically the only issue I have now
So this is only a problem for me
Like, i get on it fine, go into the game, load into my home, 5 seconds later it crashes
Loading the default home or a custom one?
Default one, didn't even know you could get a custom one
You can set any world you want as your home
I have a feeling it's the avatar, because the time it would normally load in is when the game crashes
But i can't switch avatar fast enough to see if it's the case
It's not even a server crashing avatar so i have my doubts on that theory
There's a shortcut to change to the default avatar
I forgot what it is, but you can press it in time for sure
Ctrl and \
Another English-keyboard-only shortcut huh
Pas de chance :>
If you're using an azerty keyboard ; it's ctrl + the key to do * with qwerty activated
It's a Danish keyboard, pressing \ requires two key presses (one being Alt Gr) so it won't work as a shortcut
wtb friend turbocleave
Hello!
๐

Anyone on vrc rn I'm bored x3
oho
Huh?
I literally started playing an hour ago
Lol I started 2 days ago so welcome to my club xD
lol
Good way to make friends is play the murder game
im currently watching some heavy texas accents talking to each other
THE MURDER 3? Oh my thats so terrible
No murder 2
oh
Ik murder 3 is bad
I don't understand what to do
Uhm do you know how to add others
sure
I'll add ya rn I'm getting on anyways
I guess we can do it that way, how do we know our ign?
PC
Ok so hit esc an it'll pull up your menu
Ok click the search bar
done
An put in my name it's SilentWulf
Done
oh no...
Where are you?
In a world
is the rumor thats going around true, that vrc may be shutting down?
i have had a bunch of ppl spreading that rumor
it gained 10 mill in funding just recently, why would it shut down
people were trolling you
weird rumor to spread
Kinda like when people think soundcloud is shutting down every year 
dont believe scaremongering, its easy to fall for it
thats why i came here ๐ thanks guys
lol
Anyone have a small hedgehog model I can use?
anyone have a small dude thats got weed on him ? model pls
Dat moment when your trackers run out of battery and you realize how boring regular VR is when the animations of the legs are handled by the game
Instead of being based on your own movement
๐คท
I swap between the two often because keeping the trackers charged gets too tedious at times.
Now, going back to desktop, I cannot do.
I mean I was in VR for 5 hours so I just decided to hop off, get some rest, charge everything again
is vr chat more smooth than rec room bcs i cant run rec room (its vr and its not obrigatory)
definitely not
?
if you cant run rec room running this is gonna be next to impossible in most rooms
oh
i wished there were a limit of players you can see (ex:10) but it only dissapears when far
Well, having to charge three pucks with micro USBs and the Knuckles with Type-Cs eats up my slots.
if you play without vr you can suffer less @glad bolt
The Knuckles do come with USB to Type-C cables, right? Like regular old USB cables to plug into your PC
thats a tip
you CAN play without vr
Yes, but if you have VR, you'll probably never play the game in desktop mode ever again
@torn breach Oof, like I said, I don't do desktop anymore after investing in this Index
Yeah, Mason, they do, but I only have two slots to operate with.
You'd understand if you had one, not sure if you do.
Just get like a PowerPort or something
Yeah, that's a start.
I have one and I can charge 5 different devices from there
Nice. Thanks!
ill never play vr on my pc its so clancly
Just need one power outlet so you can plug it in
clancky*
and its better to save for psvr
Eh? What?
What makes you think that's even remotely true?
What do you mean by clanky?
my pc's capability of vr is bad
Upgrade your PC
Oof, ironic, I'm selling my PSVR tomorrow. At least I think that's when the bid ends, not sure. ๐ค
have u played rec room
Very small amount.
i play alot but in screen mode
Ah.
I actually really wonder how people setup their stuff to charge while playing. Do they just have a few very long cables to use so they can charge without leaving the game?
yeah
Probably. Usually when everything dies, I just wanna rest my eyes. I don't think I could spend more than six hours in there.
Oof
Like 10+ hours a lot
Tru
Slight concern
Paci just lives the game
Hope they're taking care of themselves outside of that.
I dunno how because after 8 hours everything will run out of battery
Right, unless they plug in a game controller for more time in there.
I mean you could stay in the game even without controllers but you wont be able to do much
Kinda defeats the purpose at that point, I think.
And waiting for an hour standing in one place until the trackers and controllers are back to 100% can be a bit meh
Mhm
I mean, you can sorta move around but you'd be limited to the space available in your play space
That just sounds uncomfortable.
Well, nice chat as usual, Mason. Think I'm gonna call it a night.
Yep but since a really long time tho
Anyone here ever set up an index in an exceedingly small space
I'm in a semi truck and I'm having issues getting the headset to track
But it worked at my friend's house
Have you been able to find a stable place to put a/the lighthouses?
Motion of one of them over a certain threshold can cause the rotor speed to vary and the lasers spinning at a very exact speed is critical to tracking.
The other issue is liekly to be reflections off windows.
Got courtins up
Maybe it's the vibration of my apu(diseal generator) in the back? Controllers were tracking fine
If it was disturbing the lighthouses everything would have problems with tracking, not just the HMD.
Yeah controllers were fine I tricked to into getting into vrchat and tried
Try removing the frunk cover, in some cases that can cause reflections at close ranges and cause some tracking issues.
Hmmmmm
Good idea I think I remember trying that but not sure
I dunno if a truck is just too small
Also worth knowing is most of the tracking sensors on the Index are around the edges and sides.
I set my Vive up in an actual cupboard once.
Aside from extreme motion restrictions it worked.
This is what I'm working with
Hmmmmm so space isn't a restriction
I wonder if it's electrical interference by creating a liop
Loop since index plugs into an outlet and pc
It gives audio devices static if I do that
possibly, you could make the Vive's tracking go wild with a bit of ESD nearby
Might be it
You need a power extension that regulates electrical noise.
And they're not too pricey either, I can show you one I literally just bought like 10 minutes ago.
Soo open mic night is dead ?
@vocal shard I wouldn't expect Walmart to have proper power conditioning equipment... You'd ideally want a pure sine wave UPS that operates in an always inverting mode if you really want to clean it up
Not public = / = private
0 players are in open mic night, public or otherwise
just a dead world, but also its pretty late
i dont see many people there in general though
Don't diss my EU breadbins... we are good humans... just many of us can't speak english
I actually had a discussion on VRC about US inhabitants being more egocentric and europeans being more "don't care about anything"
We had a states representative there going "nope nope nope not true nope, nope; I'm not like that" And multiple europeans going "I don't care."
I guess it depends on how you speak. Because I don't think I've managed to offend anyone
Maybe I was too drunk to remember
How do I. Connect without VR
Y Vrchatconnecys automatically yovR but my.comyrollers are dead
are you talking to me ? Sorry i have been drinking
Hard time.following
Take care dude, I'm off to play beat saber
VRChat is super full of drunk people today ๐ What happened?
weekend
Not the first weekend I played VR
Usually it's me tho ๐
Check out some of that drunk action in #vrchat-pictures
Pretty much every weekend is drink weekend
Pretty much every hour is drinking hour
true true
hallo
Hallo
GDAY
can someone direct me to where I can ask about getting a commission done.
In the VRCTraders discord
transmnt.Get api/1/time returns 500 and "something very bad happened" (Max retries reached)
I dare everyone to play the 4 videos in #vrchat-pictures at the same time xD
@tacit plank Normal, don't worry about it.
Alright, thanks!
@torn nebula been doing research and everyone is telling me to get a sine wave imverter
Which you can get at any truck stop but I'd have to have the company shop put it in
why? they're usualy plug in boxes for the 24v socket.
unless you specificaly want one for fixed installation.
and if they do not come with such a plug you could still install one, just make sure you're not drawing more current that the plug can handle, but since trucks even operate at 24v insted of 12v it shouldn't be an issue at all.
Good morning everyone ๐
Good evening
Hello Germany
What
Yeah, who? My name ain't Germany lol
Iโm fucking with you man xD itโs your profile photo
That's a countryball :x
So if anything it would've been Germanyball and not Germany :x
You want to be called Germanballs?
I want to be called Mason :)
Ok Mason ๐
HAPPY BIRTHDAY @buoyant estuary
@tawny ore Why shudder at WMR? 
I dont know, but I found your beatsaber track
Dont talk shit on wmr or ill tell ๐
my beatsaber track that i made when beatsaber first released??
Likely
I only ever made one
That's the one then
and its not that good, though its still one of the most downloaded maps
Well then, I'll hop on and try it out xD
lmk how it be
It was excellent up until I missed the last 2 notes
Sorry u suck!!!!! ๐
But yeah, the first version sucked because the original song is actually offbeat and i was snapping to bpm
But i went back in with snapping turned off and pain stakingly lined up damn beat
@hollow breach :I
boop
When ya want to go VRC but are too lazy to get up
Real life ^^^^^^^^
I mean, I'm back on my desk now.
It's weird because I could just get on with FBT and just be lazy in my bed while in VR
I'd be a floaty boi but whatever
Can't fix it unless I play space move myself down to the floor, but then I'm inside the floor when I decide to get up
I know I have FBT
But I never lay down
Cause I know Iโll scare people
So I always stand, sometimes sitting down
floating to assert dominance
Floaty people intimidating? We are just chilling
No, you guys are scary
I'm at least somewhat glad that my bed is at the right height for certain chairs
Yaโll are sitting too you are just hiding it
over the halfbodies
So I can sit on a chair in FBT and it'll look mostly fine, give or take minor clipping issues
halfbodies wont survive the winter
Iโm on and off with my FBT
Once these beta changes hit live Iโll always be in FBT
Can't wait for that to happen
I can only sit while playing with FBT because my bed is too far away from my play space. I do have a table in the corner tho so I can sit down when I want to
My legs will glitch around if I do that because I have kinect :/ im too cheap to buy a vive
I still have problems with my hip tracker going AWOL whenever I sit on the floor
maybe some day ill get one
I have Kinect too @broken plover :P
Iโm too lazy to start up playspace mover so I only float when I sit/lay on my sofa
No bed in my vr room
I usually just sit on the floor
im too lazy to crouch (and because it cant track my hip if I bend down) so when I want to reach down to the floor I use playspacemover
And no one sees me
I usually like to do a lot of movement while in full body
Like fortnite dances :3
And do funny stuff in front of crowds
Never lazy boi in full body
Only half body Iโm lazy boi
I lost over 50 pounds since getting vr just because Iโm moving around way more
OOF
I get exhausted from just using FBT. even If I just stand there and dont use my legs that much. If I play without FBT but still stand I dont get that exhausted
I find that not moving is what makes you tired
Damn people fakin exercise
I can play beat saber for hours without getting tired. VRChat full body makes you tired if you just stand around and use joysticks to walk
You play ez donโt u?
Random song requests on expert. Expert + is usually too much for me
Neat
Donโt ask if I fail on them or not. Please
I only play expert+ normal expert is too slow for me.
I used to be able to do expert+ before one of the updates. Expert became the old expert+ and + is now ridiculous
or b lasagna xD It says easy but its like expert+
Anyway not walking around makes you tired. Show your playspace walls and walk around. When they are off you stay still and get tired
I never get tired ๐ค sleep is for the weak
Was mostly responding to Hystero#7649
Yeah with the Kinect your quite limited
I canโt get too close to my Kinect or big oof happens
do you have 360 or one?
ok. the 360 has a really small fov. and if the one has a small one already then you can imagine what using the 360 would feel like xD The one is so much better than the 360 but still far away from base station tracking
It is. But with the light up color things out on your 2 legs and waist. I heard it makes a huge difference
Was talking to a person about it and they said people thought he had the pods
but the color tracking thing is only for driver4vr. I have kinect2vr
Rip, I have driver4vr lmao


