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And the performance rating? ๐
i noticed some extra material slots being used in the face but meh
I honestly never limit avatars based on performance
well thats their fault for going on vrchat tbh lol
but then my pc isn't ancient
if it's lazy I just hide it on principal
I'm gonna check it. I know it's definitely not Optimised in the slightest because of the dynamic bones and shaders.
no normal avatar needs 30 mats lol that pisses me off the most
You shouldn't limit your avatar based on performance, but you also should optimize it to not use like, I dunno, 40+ material slots for no reason
You could achieve the same look with far less material slots. Same with dynamic bones and some avatars having 3k+ dynamic bones for a few pieces of cloth
yeah unnecessary material slots is just monka
The hair is a bit on the elastic side if that makes sense. ๐ค
flow-ey?
More like stretchy?
There's things that make sense because that's the minimum to achieve the look desired, and then there's one that are just excessive and could look the same if optimized properly
monka
oh reminds me, i took a fun video of that exact thing https://puu.sh/Ee3Yq/acaa9b493a.mp4
was at 70-ish since i started recording, but without recording it was a flat 90 to 45
It's only noticable if I jerk my head around.
maybe its just the dynamic bone values @glad bolt idk
ive noticed that on a certain website cough the avatars are very lazily made and unoptimised it took me literal hours to fix it
yup, total trash
however, those who have ancient pcs shouldnt expect others to limit themselves for them to such an extent @tawny ore
like optimisation is necessary but not to such extremeties
I don't care. The only thing I care about is the thicc boys catflap
There was one rather simple looking avatar that had an excessive amount of material slots for apparently no good reason whatsoever
I'll see if I can find it again
oh my
With current tools you can adjust your experience pretty well
its like the female avatars that almost every girl uses and it has like 6 material slots just on the face lmao
Which I would reccommend to use ๐
A lot of the avatars are rated poor because there's just a lot of dynamic bones stuff going on. Understandable if there's a lot of moving parts. That's just the minimum to achieve the desired results
And then there was that 3k dynamic bones overkill avatar for a few bandages on the arm and leg.....
ikr
Meanwhile the fluffiest avatars don't have nearly as much
Fortunetelly, we have dynamic bone limiter implemented
sometimes the minimilistic styles r best
yeah true but doesnt that remove all dynamic bones?
It does
You can limit number of desired transforms or collisions
But you can just set a custom value so that only the absolute overkill avatars are affected
oh really i didnt know that
Like something that you believe is beyond reasonable for any avatar
I have it at 20 transforms and 0 collisions
So basically all dynamic bones disabled
i dont have any disabled oof
dymanic bones are very unperformant
as in they are the dictator?
I have everything enabled and I'm doing fine
same i didnt even know the values could be custom
It says so in the menu
monka i cant read
atleast i choose not to at times
Here's a screenshot
oH
Though that file is somewhere in the depths of your PC
ive never seen that
:I
ah well
The thing I do in every game is going through every menu that exists
It's in the upper right corner of the Safety tab
There you can also set the avatar performance limiter
"Very poor" being off
yeah when the update came out that enabled it by default i just changed it back and whabam i didnt read it again
That thing actually confused me at first
ye
Like, performance limiter and then the settings are Medium, poor, very poor
im just grateful devs have fixed the loss of connection to instances
Me: Waaaaaaaaat?
That was all the way in the beginning of the game where I had no idea about the performance rating
monka
I found the world
what world?
The one with the overkill avatar
send
oh
my
Yes, this simple as heck looking avatar has 46 material slots
wHy dOeS iT hAvE tHaT mAnY
And here we are at the reason why I refuse to use it.
YoU cOuLd lEgIt mAkE iT lIke 4
Yup
holy mother of god that annoys me
You could probably also optimize the polys and have it look the exact same
I've seen avatars with better details and less polys than this
polys are like meh
It's not that I'm afraid to use
avatars, I refuse to use something that is excessive and overkill
how many slots does that have
rated.
oh my thats good
3
impressive me likey
And 9419 polys while having really nice details
@tawny ore how come u can post a custom emoji?
I'm in hecc
Avatars like these really show that you can make good looking and performance friendly avatars.
Of course some avatars won't get away with it if they have a lot of particles or custom dance animations but then that's just something they have to do to achieve their goal.

hecc?
Meanwhile that 46 material slot avatar has nothing special about it
Nah I'm green. Used nitro to feel better about myself for 3 minutes.
Like all my stormtrooper skins. They're medium because they have particle colliders for their blasters
ah
"https://i.imgur.com/mtLyux7.png
Here. Hope that link works" Aev made better looking avatar with 5k poly and 1 mat
Better looking than that? Hmmmmm
Oh that one
The bad one
I wasn't sure if you meant the
or the
one
its very simple to fix the material slots especially with that avatar i dont understand why people just DoNt dO iT
Cuz everyone be like muh performance who cares
Thats why I pasted the link
This is why You can customize what You see
It's understandable when that avatar is doing some crazy things that just require a lot of a certain thing but this avatar is literally simple
low frames in vr can genuinely make you motionsick
@odd lava And yes, I know that. Doesn't mean that such monstrosities have to exist though
people shouldnt have to customise dynamic bones @crisp wren for those who are too lazy to optimise
also its materials not dynamic bones in this case
Uhhh, I disagree
Never got motion sick but I do have light headaches after few hours
People should be able to customize their graphics settings to match what their PC is capable to render
well yeah obviously but like
It just so happens that almost everything is user generated without LOD's
you can easily avoid stupid avatars like that
@errant hare Check that your headsets IPD is set correctly.
Is it possible to have LOD on an avatar?
Not sure. I'd love some LOD's in worlds though
as you said before we dont have to have those monstrosities
Could make larger worlds perform a bit better
lod?
Level of Detail
ah
If you get further away from an object, it'll be replaced with one that has less details
@umbral reef I measured my idp with a ruler, not sure if correctly and just pasted the result in my settings, makes me wonder will changing that help me
i have a small ipd
If done correctly, it will greatly increase performance and you won't even notice the model changing their level of detail as you approach it
You can try tweaking around with it a tiny bit
wait the ipd is the eye thing right
It is
Eye pupil distance
mines the smallest lol
Distance between your eyes
I only have software ipd adjustment and tbh didn't notice it change anything
No it is between middle of your eyes
oh
Software ipd changes are really lacking in result and fairly limited
Yeah, thankfully my ipd isn't that far off middle
I mean the most common value for ppl
@ivory axle https://i.imgur.com/yxhR1q4.png Psst
0 meshes?
btw whats the best way to have a comfy fit for the Oculus Rift ive had it for about a year now and its seems like the weight is all on the front and not the back what do
Hah he's got a small ipd 
It is quite an achievment to have 3k collisions with those two mesh stripes
i know
It's three. There's one on the arm as well

im so cold
Good
wow
Dunno if the hair had colliders but now that I've seen avatars like these with just one material slot, what exactly is the reason the other one had 46?
Hot sucks so
they lazy

yeah true
Hot > Cold
Don't know, I never assembled an avatar from pieces of other avatars, I just made one from scratch
How much time did it take to get good enough to do that?
Who said I'm good?
just casually make one from scratch monka
No one. I just said "good enough" to do that.
"Good enough" isn't good.
But it works
^
I see, it took me like 200 hours to make one
oh my
And here we have the reason why I'm not gonna do it
i dont think thats what he means
without having any prior experience
oh k nvm lol
monka no experience and you make one from scratch respect
put in vrchat pictures the avatar pls im curious now
I mean I made a water hydrant and a small trailer before that xD
some sort of modelling experience is something tho fair enough
send me a pic of the avatar in #vrchat-pictures
mkay, sent one
thats impressive
That actually looks pretty good
Thank you
like there are obviously some improvements needed but for the first time damn thas goood
Ya know what I think the hair is the reason there's 3k collision checks
Yeah could have multiple colliders
Name being?
bentspoon
Request sent
Congratulations, you are now my 40th friend. Except not because my alt account doesn't count
yeet
Oof
alistair u god damn fluffboi add me too
Sure
Now time to use this 3k monster in public worlds and watch everyone hide my avatar :D
Dunno if I'll be on this weekend. I sorta don't feel like drinking again with mates and might just wait until Monday when the index has that yummy mic for me to use.
haha kool beans
I'm actually surprised my CPU isn't melting

@covert blade i see that furry avatar with the mask u using boi where did u get it
https://i.imgur.com/k1JMWbY.png You mean this one?
yEs
So the guy who made this was in a public lobby and a few other people had it too, one of them had cloning enabled so I yoinked it from that person
can i yoink it from u pls
๐ค
i really like it and have been looking for it
I assume contacting Reiter didn't work?
Well hang on
This specific avatar has a dance though
wot
Look at #vrchat-pictures . That's the person who uploaded them
From a random who also had it cloned
Hey if someone has cloning enabled then that's automatic permission to clone
then let me clone u god damn it
Maybe later
Hm no
ffs
The lack of ability to send messages to people is annoying, I know
i will find them
and imma make a custom one, then send a pic of it and send it to u with a middle finger lmfao
i shall pRoVe tHaT i Can fInD tHeM aNd nOt yOiNK
Hmm on another thing, what happened to Open Mic Night? Not so popular anymore it seems
cancerous
Open mic were a nice place.. 2 years ago ;p
^
I liked going there to listen to ppl who play piano or guitar but they seem to go somewhere else
Now there's just two things I wanna do:
Record that dance and place fav that avatar on my alt account because I don't really need it
Open Mic Night was okay I guess but I wish people would go to Gaia Night again. That's was the good shit
Yeah gaia was always a fun time
Great for meeting people. Having a good time. Or just relaxing by the fire listening to the music.
Gaia Night was comfy.
Too bad the map kinda got destroyed due to the ARG and then the splintering of the map into two maps.
"ARG"?
arg 
arg is arg
arg right back at you.
dont mess with me i will arg you
Back when everyone ran around like omg is that a vr user!? Pick up this for us
Lol you should've seen the attention I got as a full body user in 2017. We were a very rare breed back then. People lost their shit over it.
Gaia night classic pog
I got it in December!
I still remember the annoying times i had with avatars and height...
People were always so confused at first seeing me move my legs. They'd have to do like a double take. 'Wait what..? WHAT THE FUCK?! YOU CAN MOVE YOUR LEGS?! HOW?!'
You were basically the star attraction of the server you were on
Basically true though
I practiced doing the regular VR leg movement to fool people into thinking I didn't have FBT, then I'd just scratch my leg with my foot and blow their minds.
Yah trying to trick people into think it was some kind of animation was fun and still is to be honest
Those times were great
I still get new people saying that to me
Specially if you did a dance move like wooow send me that i want that on my avatar as well
I did enjoy the short period between VRC getting index controller support and the Index being shipped out to customers where I could waggle my fingers at people.
I bet lol
Still is fun to be honest.
I had fun wiggling my fingers for the 4 weeks my controllers worked lol
Friend of mine is getting his Index ones today
D: Did they fail for some reason?
does fbt work natively with the valve index?
Yes
ah okay good
Yes @ancient scaffold
Valve Index is pretty much using the same base stations as the Vive and both use SteamVR as well
The left joystick degraded on the vertical axis. Started at about 3 weeks of VRChat use. By the end of the fourth week, they get stuck at 80-90% up or down when I tilt up or down and release.
It's all SteamVR/Lighthouse so very minimal setup.
ah I see
V1 trackers will not work with the base stations that come with the index though.
I upgraded my trackers a while back
V1 being, not the 2018 ones?
shame the battery life was shortened on them
Blue button trackers (2018 models) work with all lighthouses.
Grey button trackers only work with lighthouses that have a sync flash (Vive lighthouses and the rare v1.5 single-rotor&sync flash LH)
Ah
Yah I quite enjoy my 8h battery life trackers tbh. Will be sad if I ever have to replace them
Why'd it degrade that much?
yeah the older trackers have way better battery life
but does new tech like the index work with the 2018 base stations or with the old base stations?
I am assuming they cut the battery size as a cost saving measure
They're still hella expensive for what it is
Yah new tech will work with old base stations
V2 sensor devices like the Index work with older lighthouses
V1 sensor devices (Vive) do not work with V2 lighthouses
@pure hemlock No change in battery capacity between tracker models, just some internal operations that drain it faster.
so does the index headset require 2.0 lighthouses or would the vive ones work?
I see..
I use my index with my vive lighthouses at home
I have to since I still use my v1 trackers.
I'm so reluctant to purchase a whole new setup when my vive has no issues lol
Any 2.0 tracking device works with 1.0 base stations. The devices are backwards compatible. But v1 devices won't work with v2 base stations.
but I still want the index
@ancient scaffold Get the HMD & Controller bundle and just use your vive lighthouses
I am using 2x1.0 basestations to track 3x 1.0 trackers 3x 2.0 tarcersIndex+controller and Vive+controllers ๐
I got the full Index kit because I use VR out of the house quite a bit so not having to take down my vive lighthouses frequently is worth the price of the v2 LHs.
Unless you have a large or oddly shaped room, v1 base stations should do you just fine going forward unless devices stop supporting it
my room for vr is just an empty square
well besides the pc
and desk
I rarely walk around though lol, I'm lazy and stay seated in fbt
If you can be tracked at the extremes of distance from a LH and don't have any significant occlusion problems there's no real need to get v2 LHs.
FBT? More like FST. Fully Seated Tracking. lol
I used to be so active with my FBT but I rarely even wear them anymore because I just want to lay down and relax when I play VRChat
I don't even bother wearing them if I just want to sit/lay down personally.
I was so active when I got it, and I still am. I have lovely carpet so standing for long periods is no problem for me.
I have carpet too, fluffy carpet at that
I'm always like: Why do people use full body tracking if theyre just lying in bed or sitting down?
and now im chilling watching movies in that one world every night and im like: Not really immersive having your legs clip through the couch isnt it?
I have a few friends like you Gallium and I envy you guys lol. I am so lazy and just want to lay in bed all day.
It's comfy. And relaxing.
.
netflix and bed = win
Not too great for my back problems though
before I had my computer I just layed in bed all day and watched youtube. Now Im atleast sitting and sometimes standing when I play beatsaber
When I lie down or sit down I do like to align myself with some world geometry instead of just floating there.
Yah I try to as well if I happen to be wearing trackers. I hate floating in the air
I end up just laying on the floor a lot though in the world
^this
its so funny to see some people just floating in the air like theyre being obducted by aliens
and people step on me or tea bag me ๐ฆ
only time I'll float is if I'm a tiny avatar and I'm laying on someones hand or something
That happens to my boyfriend a lot to be honest lol
If youre sitting on someones hand youre not really "floating" tho
if they move I will be lol
why do I just skip words sometimes. Is my brain lagging?
happens to me too, brain.exe stopped responding is all
The amount of times a girl or some gay dude just see my bf in full body and decide to sit on him, and either hit on him or make sexual noises..
I've yet to have a girl do that to me, gay guys have done it quite a bit to me
I had to beat off two gay dudes last week from my boyfriend while he was crossfaded as fuck as they kept telling him how hard they'd make him... well you can guess
not even gays do that to me...
Oh god I made a bad choice of words
oh god
๐ yin lol
it's the other way around for me, I usually have to stop dudes tryna flirt and do shit with my girlfriend when she's in fullbody
Yah no my boyfriend oddly enough gets hit on and sexually harassed far more than me.
But I am usually very quiet and mute and not in full body
I wanna join these lobbies where people won't hit on my girlfriend lol
it gets really annoying sometimes
Mostly by gay dudes though.. Gay dudes really like my boyfriend for some reason
just go desktop mode and sit in a corner lol
He's got a bit of a higher pitched voice and is a bit of a more feminine personality so I think that's why gay dudes are all over him I guess
VRC players do have issues with respecting boundries
I used to get hit on by gay dudes irl and usually if you tell them you're not interested they'd leave you alone
I never had that problem. It either might not be THAT big, or I just always get the public instances where "normal" people are
idk about in game tho
you find normal people in vrchat public lobbies?
thats rarer than winning the lottery
So I have that one dancy boi avatar where the performance of the person using it degrades to 25 FPS while it works fine on the other clients
I said "normal" not normal. only sometimes tho
Normal people haven't been in public lobbies since the knuckles invasion
as annoying as that was that was prime vrchat time
so many active friends back then
It was very active back then but all my communities, that was when they all switched to friends/private worlds because of the knuckles and boom of memers
Thats where I made about 100 of my 129 friends. Almost nobody of them plays anymore tho
yeah, vrchat is mostly friends+/invite only worlds now
I rarely have more than 5 friends online
public rooms are kinda toxic
@ancient scaffold Where do You find these people ^^
which people?
@ancient scaffold And that's the reason why I'm probably never going to meet anyone from this discord ingame
I haven't been in that many public worlds lately, but they haven't been that bad.
F+ quite a bit lately and met some lovely new people because of it.
And one or two not so much.
I only visit my own publics and they do not seem that bad
Considering I play public exclusively, I have been more or less fine
Sometimes it's good, sometimes it isn't. Welcome to the unpredictability of multiplayer
thats why theres private rooms lol
Well a fair amount came thinking it was all about the memes and not so much on actually socializing with others
private rooms as the name suggest are for private talks
talks
There's still some memesters around but I feel like that's steadily falling off
๐
Memes are always going to have a place somewhere
Some did, but at times it got a bit overwhelming
you still do?
@covert blade you probably would meet people from this discord in game, I frequent public lobbies when none of my friends are online
Huh
From what I've heard so far it seems almost like all the sane people just hang around in F+ worlds, which means that me being in publics only will probably not get to sanity heaven any time soon
you do get some decent people in public lobbies it just takes a while to find them
I've added at least 5 people this week from public pugs who are super chill
I think the only person I met from this discord is Fuzzout and he's a huge weirdo who doesnt like headpats
But even still, a fair amount of the people in f+ still sometime go to publics
Worst public lobby I have seen was in the other social game full of 10y old kids shouting
How do people not like headpats???
I don't like headpats either
Also a huge weirdo.
I feel like I'd probably get along with the guy.
nothing can beat it ๐
Someone doesn't like head pats?
Some people dont like hugs
I'll give headpats to anything cute enough lol
In my case 90% of VRC avatars can't even reach my head. Anime midgets. ๐คฃ
Playspace mover
Never.
I actually have a internal panic attack when a stranger gives me headpats because I am like "WTF DO I DO"
Also that assumes they have FBT.
yeah same yin, I just smile at the mirror lol
slowly rocks head back and fourth in fear
Just play along and shake your head like the pats would move your head
You give 'em a friendly face and pat back @ Yin :D
And then you're stuck in a head pat loop
I used to just stab them in the face or shoot them with my crossbow. But now no one sees my props so I just sit there and panic.
Or be mean and scare 'em with a prop sword
There's pretty much one user in VRC I will accept headpats from and that's because they're mute and it's how they express themselves.
I still punch some people in the face when they try to headpat me, but a lot of people get very upset about that.
I don't even bother with props anymore
Like legit people get offended if you don't accept their headpatting love.
Person: Loves you, pats you
You: Violence D:
I never just randomly headpat somene tbh
yall hang around some weird people
Yin woot
Owned by the bot ๐ฆ
:(
F
Why is that bot even a thing? Why can't I post in all caps? It's a form of expression
exactly
Even I agree the bot's capslock trigger is too sensitive
is this a library?
DON'T TELL ME WHAT I CAN DO HERE REEEEEE
But yeah interesting when a message appears for a fraction of a second and then, poof
Just like that see?
It actually grades what percentage of my message is caps not just looks for all caps
Pretty much
70% capital letters? Sorry. Can't have that here.
I AM TRYING TO MESSAGE IN ALL CAPS TO GET MY EXPRESSION TRANSLATED.
lorum ipsum lorem ipsum lorem ipsum lorem ipsum.
WHY
is allowed and its 100% caps OWNED BOT
Haha got em
WHAT
gets banned by Gal
all single words are allowed I think
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Now you know how the bot behaves, please don't abuse it.
F
LOL
Nope if the single word is too long, it still bans
Mission failed! We'll get em' next time
It probably doesnt delet after a certain amount of letters
NO NO
So that saying things like "FYI" doesn't trigger deletion
Also probing the bot is getting kinda off-topic here
Can we do it in #general-media ?
ok lets move to random chat or public lobby OR switch the topic
I mean, I'd prefer it not be done at all but if you really must #general-media I guess ยฏ_(ใ)_/ยฏ
I take that as official permission.
Uh, just too lazy to do anything with it
I dont think theyre creepy theyre just wierd?
We can talk about the mystery that is that one avatar where using the minutes long dance animation with particles degrades the performance of the user heavily while all players around them are just fine
I mean I didn't mind them until I found out what they're all doing behind closed doors.
i kinda like nanachis
Why do you guys keep mentioning that
theyre interesting
They arent really furries are they? Because theyre supposed to be rabbits or bunnies and they stand on two feet and have short arms
There's a reason they have those Hon
most have it removed
what are they doing behind closed doors??
You poor naive soul
@ Nico isn't that kind of a furry?
Its more like somoene just putting on a literal cat as an avatar
Or at least what is commonly associated with furries? Animals with human traits?
I'm curious now to know what they're doing ๐ค
Sky, it's very NSFW and I can't discuss it here
Nanachis dont really have human traits. Or what kind of human traits do they have?
But lets just say there are many Nanachi communities who do a lot of it
they're fairly humanoid lol
Oh nvm then lol, I'm not into no furry stuff
They stand on two feet, have to arms, have fingers on each arm, probably have thumbs as well
They have a humanoid shape
but real rabbits are the same
they are not...
am i hot
they stand on two legs and have two arms
Compare a rabbit with a nanchi andd tell me they're the same :X
if your temperature is high I guess @odd gazelle
Rabbits don't have human like legs
If they stand on their back legs, they don't look like a person
are you really trying to argue that nanachis arent humanoid lol
Nanachis are at the 50/50 mark between anime and furry
they look like a rabbit had something running with a human so yeah 50/50
furries scare me
so humanoid
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creative liberties
Somebody scared Honigball when they bend over
Also @ Honig I'm kinda curious how tall / short your avatar actually is
some people can. I dont like those people
30 cm is the length of a ruler
that's like a foot
I have not paid attention to what Nanachis even look like
I've been typing that wrong for a while now huh
the last time I saw one was in a clip of minikane
yesplz
That's cute
risky click of the day
Yeah, that's tiny. Also, your tank or someone elses?
Thats king tiger so your avatar is very large and beside you is a true giant
Than you need to get a Maus tank
always
I mean your Discord pfp is the complete opposite
I make avatars then never use them because public ones are too cute
One of the rarest things to see in VRC
That is too much cuteness in one picture
Hi I take pictures with people's butts
That face is unnaturally detailed
What the heck. That isn't vrchat. There's no anime
I'm not an anime, never have been and never will be.
Okay I admit I've taken a few pictures of some butts... There was this 2B once.. My god
Understandable
I'm not even a butt person but some of those butts are just too much for my brain to handle
i had a panty shot folder as a meme whne cameras came out
immediately lost its novelty lol
I've been taking selfies with people's butts for almost a year now, I have no intent of stopping.
I mean, nothing's exposed but it's close to the limit.
Might be pushing it for the americans with their different standards for what can be classed as sexual imagery.
I been lurking in chat but what
I know, but I also know that culturally americans have different thresholds for what's classed as sexual compared to europeans.
that joke bruh
USA =/= Germany
literal dismemberment is fine but saying fuck is too far
Saying Beep
ok maybe I dont wanna move to the us...
Moves to Germany
I AM in gemany ๐
Come to Germany, we have unrestricted highways :D
was during e3 or something for cyber punk
bleeps for fuck and then 10 seconds later some dude gets his arm chopped off uncensored
Gotta think about the children
they got super rtl
nickelodeon and kika lmao
ik. not a single show I wanted to watch as a child
on my tv it was like toggo (super rlt), then nickelodeon and then kika. I always switched between super rtl and nickelodeon
RIP Peter Lustig
F
I remember that
When your model is 26k poly, one material but you decide to add dynamic bones to the scarf and it's suddently rated poor
pepehands
F
?
Dynamic bone rating should take update rate into account too. ๐คท
that one is capped at some number I think
I need to come back to vrchat and make my world and models
But i feel like my main avatar wont be great performance anymore
what is it like?
anything can if you work hard enough
it was like 30k poly with like 14 dyanmic bones
it could be worse
that's pretty good
what about the material slots
like 2 mats
gucci
or 3 i cant remimber
All of my friends avatars are poor. my are either medium if I put alot of custom animations and props on but if not then they are good.
I always tryu and make my as optimized as possible but if i get the index imma play more vr(not a fan of my oculus so i dont play much)
optimisation is necessary
what's wrong with your oculus?
same tbh i want to upgrade my oculus
I once deleted some unused bones but then one little hair on my head was stuck at 1 postition and then when I crouched down I had a hair being pulled out of my head. looks so wierd
Nothing is wrong with it just dont like the foam for the face pad and its a matter of time before they stop making rift stuff
probably a weight paint issue idk
@minor bramble i cant seem to find a comfortable way of wearing my oculus rift too
I can get it comfortable but i can never find the sweet spot
how do you get it comfy?
so i have to adapt to blurry text
you smile
w o t
literally have to smile so you cheecks push it up lmao
i dont wanna constantly smile ill get wrinkles lmao
exactly
The best would be if they could use an instance on amazon to just load up the model, trigger all anaimations andhand movements and rate it based on FPS or something.
monka
adjust un velcrow the top strap and let it drop and little and move it around till its comfy is what i did
so have it at lowest setting until comfy fair enough, thing is i have to have the top strap at the tightest to lift the weight from my face cuz my head is smol
Wow rift only for happy people 
feelsbadman
imma get the vive w/ the deluxe audio strap and fbt after chrimbo
it would be nice if rift got something like the vive
honestly vive isnt worth it now
desktop 4 life
w o t y @minor bramble
unless you buy used for like 200 bucks
yeah imma get second hand
200? thats a push
unless its like hanging off by a thread
ive heard its got worse screen door then oculus
nah theres no point but i feel like getting a new facepad for it is necessary
And those wands, those wandsss...
if you have everything from vive you can just buy index controllers and move all your fingers individually and brag about it lol
Brughu
Love the tracking, but from my experience I much prefer the rift S over the Vive in most cases
i was gonna buy a vive for 250 but it had a scratch on a base station some how
the index controller seem tempromental atm tho
so i decided ide wait and get index
im happy with anything tbh if it does the job and feels good there you go whabam
Index + fbt 
im a stingy hoe
desktop + cheeto fingers
hurls
Honestly ill probably talk my self out of the index when i have the money for it in 2 weeks
I dislike wmr just because of the tracking. if it wouldnt loose tracking everytime the light gets a bit too dark or I get too close to the wall with the cameras...
inside out?
you talking shit about wmr in front of jamie?
yeah. Total trash
ye

hes about to pop your head open
ahaha
It looses tracking so fast....
I cant to anything except stand there and look around straight into the light
talking to the guy who stopped using a 3 sensor rift for wmr
see?!
i got 3 sensor rift atm

I just hope when valve dosent change to inside out when the make a second headset
Talking shit about my rift?
im running 2 sensor oculus lmao
yeah
yes
I prefer my wmr personaly. I loose tracking less than my rift. Seems everyone has their own experiences
its what rift s used and quest
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I want to buy a second hand vive asap just for the tracking
I rarly loose tracking with 2 sensors
same ^
just gets sloppy sometimes
everytime I start up my wmr I have to re-walk my boundary and rotate the headset until it finds my room... it sucks
im also getting vive cuz im moving house and i dont want to damage the walls by sticking the sensors on the walls so imma have tripods for my lighthouses
Got one of those giant ass mirror in my room, and rift doesent give a shid about it
^ same
Wow, that's not my experience with wmr at all O.O
monka
I just start it up and it works, light or dim
My room has some noticable furniture so it tracks well
(also changing to vive for no hassle with hybrid fbt)
I have a diagonal roof wall kind of thing because im on the top floor... that might be one of the problems for my tracking
im still not sure about fbt
But really, I used the rift S for a while and it's my favorite overall. Tracking is leagues above wmr and more convenient than CV1 tracking with less sub mm jitter
@broken plover imma have that problem with that in my new room too imma use tripods to avoid that
Wonder if inside out tracking is just cheaper than having external sensors, even considering the developing cost
Its deffintaly cheaper
I think so. If you look at the price tags of rift s and wmr
less hassle with wires etc its worth it tbh
but they should still have a extrenal tracking system
bUt iF yOu wAnT FbT i ThInk nOt
But the controllers need to have better internal sensors than like the CV1, so the price might balance out a bit
Gtg. Cya
There are certian spots where it immediatley gets tracking but only on 1 spot... So idk whats wrong with my tracking
later, wmr priest
Like i get why everyone's doing it but no need to getting rid of all the external tacking stuff
its just convienence i think
just to get more people in vr
i cant spell ;-;
i cant either so
The vr enthusiasts have valve. they still work with their fancy lighthouse tracking
like if you showed someone vr and said they just have to calibrate the room and controller no need to set up sensors or whatever its more attractive
Yeah i hope valve keeps light houses
Well hardware wised ye it's cheaper, but developing the tracking software seems like a pretty daunting task
on next gen
Oh whoops chat was scrolled up
full body tracking is never gonna be possible with inside out. It cant see your body when it is on your body
its possible
the trackers would need cameras if they would be inside out
yeah but thats outside in
^
kinect watches YOU from the OUTSIDE
yeah
Kinect watches you, think about that
The fbi already watches me
thats why I have it turned into my play area that is just a corner of my room... You cant watch me at night stupid mike rosoft
They can just watch me chase vrchat lolis
Mr Mike Rosoft is always watching
why would you do that @minor bramble If they run theyre scared
lol
I honstly dont even talk to people in vrchat i just kinda world jump and look at what people make
I was typing for so long I didnt notice how chat moved on to different topics
yep
idk
Hi
bentfork, got it
woW
what? no its bentknife
ill bend you shush
sTop dIsTrActInG mE
i honestly havent even played vrchat in like 4-5 months lmao
I haven't played in over 2 months now
when ever thay updated unity
do you eat uhh... schnitzel with a spoon?
get back in the game tanoshi
probably will in a couple weeks
same
no you will TODAY
I physically can't, dunno about tanoshi
Im about to playe Ghost recon breakpoint
Tanoshi is just lazy lol
My room is way to messy for vr
and i dont have any avatars uploaded since they need to be updated
cleanse your room of thy horrid mess and get back into vrc and avatar creation at once, tanoshi
so much work to be done just to play
Why not change that?
clean your room while making an avatar in unity M U L T I T A S K I N G
oh god
Got em
lol i have a large world that i spent 3 months making and never published lmao
I hope i still have it anyways
3 months of work and you don't even play tsk tsk tsk
Pretty much

i honestly only liek making stuff
never got into the whole staring at a mirror all my friends that play do
So when i do come in i world hop large exploration worlds and such
I dont like doing that but If Im alone in a room and I got nothing to do I just sit there and forget everything because my brain is still surprised that I look different in that mirror
if you dont enjoy mirror staring I can say you would enjoy my company ๐๐ฟ
IM not sure how to respond
Gosto is like the antichrist antimirror
got nothing against it if you shut up and have a girl avatar. lmao jk
Ouch
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I will squish your head with my thighs and call you gay
kinda hot
ngl
not if I bloc- blocked jk
if I had fbt :(
I have a kinect
Now there is finally a reason to stare at mirrors
it's bad
so I will squish your head and call you gay
Kinect, Mike rosoft watching you doing skuats in vr 
I have a kinect too, and i can assure you, you cant do that with it
I did it before
what I can do with a kinect is break my body to the point where I look spineless and spaz out at 9 thousand rpm
Would depend how its set up
cool
And what kinect it is... 360 or v2
380 
I mentioned rpm so its 360
and theres your problem
get it? 360.. circle.. ? 
v2 requires extra tho
Gimmie the Kinect 720 already Microsoft
You can modify it so it has an extra cable for power adapter. I bought a modified one for 40โฌ off ebay
the kinect I own is more of a memory of a friend than a useful gadget
Kinect only tracks if you face it, ins't it?
yes
180ยฐ tracking
but its more like 90ยฐ because if you stand sideways the leg that isnt seen wont get tracked properly
Buying kinectos v2 
Just pay a little more and get that chinoise tracking
Can't remember the name dang it
Nolo
Ye
That thing tracked pretty well man ;-;
a little? nolo costs 200 bucks
But only support for 1 base station
and I got my kinect for 40
Not if you know where to get it from 
That's 200 vs like 500-600 if you don't have vive lighthouses lmao
im not gonna fly to china to get dragged into a dark back alley where some wierd guy wants to sell me a used nolo
Oi n8, you, you got something in your name, I think it's a smudge or something
Nah just get it of [redacted]
Forgot the squiggly
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The superior naming scheme

And there is an avatar you kept puttig off for so long
whats up guys
So im waiting for it to return

there he goes

I'll get back to you on that
My pc internet somehow always dies when im not doing anything... well once a day
ooop it back
Bruh it's been over 3000 years
im suprised spectrum has been this reliable
a few months ago my internet would always die
but only 2019 since jesus was born
ultimate alcoholic
How where things in 981BC?
Not a lot happend, there was some talk about the Egypt King, can't remember about what exactly tho
yeah I understand... I mean its been 3000 years... who remembers stuff from 3000 years ago am i right?
im bacc
did you meet your friends bentfork and bentknife? just asking
snappedspoon
no
bent too much :(
the spoon never snaps i am inevetible
RIP spoon
i bend for eternity

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right
that picutre didnt give me the right link google i hate oyu
yes
right you are the first person to guess it correctly
i am not called bent spoon cuz im gay or i like spooning or i need to be bent more, i am indeed called bent spoon for that sad moment when serving icecream
spooning is nice
i agree
Wow ok buddy ghosto o pal o champ, I see you got yourself some not so friendly worlds there o pal o champ buddy friend amigo so you stop that this right instant or you little diddly neck will find in self In a crummi situation and we wouldn't want to be in a crummy situation friend?
Now I want icecream because of the search results https://i.imgur.com/dlqmoZd.png
ahahaha
you're not alone
But the problem is I dont have any
and the shops are all closed. I have to wait till tomorrow
Eat something else to forget
already ate 2 "burgers" with salad ketchup and whatever the meat is called im freakin german
some long word for sure
the only meat name I know is schnitzel
aight imma go watch a movie bye
watch shrek
You've been Invited!

Watch patema inverted
watch redline
Nice try @grizzled lichen
wat
oh
T_T


confused
never heard of that movie
now you have
Right VRNerds.... You're all cordially invited to be subjugated to my drunken self for the next....... series of hours.
I don't even remember what subjugated is
Domination/conquest
you want some wiggler pictures
Ever since Super Mario Party, I hate that worm.

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Oh right, I can't use my Nitro.
I'm at school and my pp itch
go toilet and itch it
missed us too much
Miss us?
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