#vrchat-general-2 | VRChat | Page 890

ancient scaffold Sep 5, 2019, 4:12 PM

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Yeah if I never see someone on then I'll remove them, if I happen to then join someone and they're online i'll re add them possibly

covert blade Sep 5, 2019, 4:13 PM

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Soooo yeah. For me, I just have to decide whether I liked them enough to be willing to meet them again

ancient scaffold Sep 5, 2019, 4:13 PM

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If they're chill and not super loud or full of themselves the that's good enough for me

covert blade Sep 5, 2019, 4:14 PM

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If I don't care about meeting them again then I don't have a reason to add them, and that's why I don't add some random visitor trying to boost their rank by adding me even though I have legit not even seen them

pure hemlock Sep 5, 2019, 4:14 PM

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I dunno if either of u are girls but u gotta be careful of creepers as well if u just accept anyone. I had a guy who would join on me for weeks never saying a word, just standing there staring. Then after a few weeks he'd leave his mic on, and he was just heavily panting.

covert blade Sep 5, 2019, 4:14 PM

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And the reason I specifically mention visitors is because so far, those instant random friend requests came from visitors only. Players of higher ranks don't bother

pure hemlock Sep 5, 2019, 4:14 PM

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That was the red flag for me to stop accepting all friend requests

ancient scaffold Sep 5, 2019, 4:15 PM

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Nah not a girl but I see that a lot with my female friends, people just joining and staring at them or just standing in mirrors in worlds they're in

covert blade Sep 5, 2019, 4:15 PM

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What the? Well, I'm male so I think it is less likely to run into someone being that creepy

pure hemlock Sep 5, 2019, 4:15 PM

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Not that some random girl wouldn't do that either but... for some reason it's far more common with guys

covert blade Sep 5, 2019, 4:15 PM

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I bet they just added you because they like your avatar

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Or your voice. Or both.

ancient scaffold Sep 5, 2019, 4:16 PM

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I had a female stalker once but she ended up just being super shy and finally came out of her shell

snow wadi Sep 5, 2019, 4:16 PM

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@pure hemlock That is...outright creepy, the story about the guy tailing you I mean.

ancient scaffold Sep 5, 2019, 4:16 PM

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I get added for my voice quite a bit for some odd reason

covert blade Sep 5, 2019, 4:16 PM

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What does your voice sound like?

ancient scaffold Sep 5, 2019, 4:16 PM

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I'm british and I get told it's really soft and calming to listen to

pure hemlock Sep 5, 2019, 4:17 PM

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I've had a few random guys outright tell me in publics I have a sexy voice and they want to jerk off to it which promptly got them blocked but maybe that explains the creeper

covert blade Sep 5, 2019, 4:17 PM

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Huh

ancient scaffold Sep 5, 2019, 4:17 PM

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I dont hear it myself tbh

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Most people who say something like that yin could be trolling but yeah it is still creepy

pure hemlock Sep 5, 2019, 4:18 PM

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Most likely since I don't hear it at all

snow wadi Sep 5, 2019, 4:18 PM

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I had a few female vrchatters stay close to me if a freak starts bothering them, some wait for me to come on so they could have a peace of mind while playing.

pure hemlock Sep 5, 2019, 4:18 PM

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But I guess most people hate their own voice

covert blade Sep 5, 2019, 4:18 PM

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< Me

snow wadi Sep 5, 2019, 4:18 PM

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Which is actually kinda sad, seeing what kind of people are in the game.

ancient scaffold Sep 5, 2019, 4:19 PM

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I dont hate my voice but I dont hear the calming or softness people have mentioned at all

covert blade Sep 5, 2019, 4:19 PM

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So you're like their bodyguard?

snow wadi Sep 5, 2019, 4:19 PM

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Not a bodyguard but they turn and walk away when they see my avatar.

covert blade Sep 5, 2019, 4:19 PM

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VR Chat sure is full of odd situations

pure hemlock Sep 5, 2019, 4:19 PM

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I honestly stay mute in public unless I am with a male friend lately I just noticed

snow wadi Sep 5, 2019, 4:19 PM

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I'm mostly in private or friends only worlds now though.

ancient scaffold Sep 5, 2019, 4:20 PM

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Yeah my girlfriend started doing that unless she feels comfortable around the dudes shes with like if they're part of our friendship group

covert blade Sep 5, 2019, 4:20 PM

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So that means I'll never see you in person. Okay

snow wadi Sep 5, 2019, 4:20 PM

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Oh you will, you just need to tell me when you're on.

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Me going to public worlds? HA!

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Brb

covert blade Sep 5, 2019, 4:21 PM

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I have barely any active friends so I could either go public or be in a world by myself

pure hemlock Sep 5, 2019, 4:22 PM

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Yah I know those feels

ancient scaffold Sep 5, 2019, 4:22 PM

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I've been one of those friends before, I stopped playing for like 7 months

pure hemlock Sep 5, 2019, 4:22 PM

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Outside of my boyfriends friend group I don't really have too many of my own friends playing anymore

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So if I get on when they're not on I just sit in a public muted

ancient scaffold Sep 5, 2019, 4:22 PM

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My girlfriends the same

languid igloo Sep 5, 2019, 4:22 PM

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Yeah I can say the same here

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it sucks but eh

pure hemlock Sep 5, 2019, 4:23 PM

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I had friends once, I swear! 😦

maiden swan Sep 5, 2019, 4:23 PM

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vrc daily crashed?

languid igloo Sep 5, 2019, 4:23 PM

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yea

covert blade Sep 5, 2019, 4:23 PM

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So for me, being in anything other than public is not an option. Then again if literally everyone abandoned public worlds newcomers wouldn't have anyone to interact with at all.

ancient scaffold Sep 5, 2019, 4:23 PM

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I had the best group of friends I ever had then like 80% stopped playing

fluid bloom Sep 5, 2019, 4:23 PM

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did everyone else also just die?

languid igloo Sep 5, 2019, 4:23 PM

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yeah

storm jetty Sep 5, 2019, 4:23 PM

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yes

fluid bloom Sep 5, 2019, 4:23 PM

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damn

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thanos done it again

languid igloo Sep 5, 2019, 4:24 PM

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VRChat servers got Nuked, Nuked

vocal shard Sep 5, 2019, 4:24 PM

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yes

pure hemlock Sep 5, 2019, 4:24 PM

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The bot just dropped from like 6k people playing to 87 lol

fluid bloom Sep 5, 2019, 4:24 PM

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god dammit shhh

covert blade Sep 5, 2019, 4:24 PM

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What the

fluid bloom Sep 5, 2019, 4:24 PM

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XD

languid igloo Sep 5, 2019, 4:24 PM

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🙂

vocal shard Sep 5, 2019, 4:24 PM

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VRChat not working bruh

hollow mulch Sep 5, 2019, 4:24 PM

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😥

ancient scaffold Sep 5, 2019, 4:24 PM

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Ouch luckily I'm not home yet

vocal sphinx Sep 5, 2019, 4:24 PM

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.-.

languid igloo Sep 5, 2019, 4:24 PM

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I want my daily erp

covert blade Sep 5, 2019, 4:24 PM

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Good thing I'm lazy because I intended to already be online

languid igloo Sep 5, 2019, 4:24 PM

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jk

vocal shard Sep 5, 2019, 4:25 PM

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Why Vrchat not working

vocal sphinx Sep 5, 2019, 4:25 PM

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oh its back lmao

languid igloo Sep 5, 2019, 4:25 PM

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Im back in

pure hemlock Sep 5, 2019, 4:25 PM

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Good thing I am at work bored out of my mind

vocal shard Sep 5, 2019, 4:25 PM

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its back lol

ancient scaffold Sep 5, 2019, 4:25 PM

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I just finished work, omw home now

inner cape Sep 5, 2019, 4:25 PM

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!online

floral flaxBOT Sep 5, 2019, 4:25 PM

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There are 1888 users in VRChat currently

inner cape Sep 5, 2019, 4:25 PM

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holy that's low

vocal shard Sep 5, 2019, 4:26 PM

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bruh, it's stuck on black screen when it's finishes the world load

inner cape Sep 5, 2019, 4:26 PM

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also trips, check them

broken plover Sep 5, 2019, 4:26 PM

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look at #bottalk there where only 71 players at a time

inner cape Sep 5, 2019, 4:26 PM

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weird, innit

vocal shard Sep 5, 2019, 4:26 PM

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!online

floral flaxBOT Sep 5, 2019, 4:26 PM

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There are 3395 users in VRChat currently

broken plover Sep 5, 2019, 4:26 PM

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servers filling up again

tidal aspen Sep 5, 2019, 4:26 PM

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it’s the monthly invite only vrchat battle royale

vocal shard Sep 5, 2019, 4:26 PM

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@broken plover yep

inner cape Sep 5, 2019, 4:27 PM

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I think it's just the bot had a seizure

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unless... ?

broken plover Sep 5, 2019, 4:27 PM

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someone took the batteries out

cold talon Sep 5, 2019, 4:27 PM

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vrcAevSip

inner cape Sep 5, 2019, 4:28 PM

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ah, public lobby is going ape shit, that means its not the bot but the servers

ancient scaffold Sep 5, 2019, 4:28 PM

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Rip

cold talon Sep 5, 2019, 4:28 PM

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Someone is trying to cook bacon on the servers cpus again

broken plover Sep 5, 2019, 4:28 PM

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they took the cooler off and smashed their bacon on

vocal shard Sep 5, 2019, 4:29 PM

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nah, just heating up the pizzas

broken plover Sep 5, 2019, 4:29 PM

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and the servers cpu overheated

cold talon Sep 5, 2019, 4:29 PM

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Pretty much

ornate finch Sep 5, 2019, 4:29 PM

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still a black screen for me when it trys to launch

cold talon Sep 5, 2019, 4:29 PM

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Using bacon as thermal paste

broken plover Sep 5, 2019, 4:29 PM

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and the worst thing, the bacon burnt

umbral reef Sep 5, 2019, 4:29 PM

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Chats lovely once the server deded

humble cedar Sep 5, 2019, 4:29 PM

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!online

floral flaxBOT Sep 5, 2019, 4:29 PM

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There are 2708 users in VRChat currently

covert blade Sep 5, 2019, 4:29 PM

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It's going backwards wat?

ancient scaffold Sep 5, 2019, 4:29 PM

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LOL

broken plover Sep 5, 2019, 4:30 PM

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expectations: F
reality: -spam intensifies-
reality can often be disappointing

rigid crescent Sep 5, 2019, 4:30 PM

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Welcome to the VRC Discord whiny brainlets

humble cedar Sep 5, 2019, 4:30 PM

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Vrchat wont load for me, oof

cold talon Sep 5, 2019, 4:30 PM

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Oi, I'm ofended

rigid crescent Sep 5, 2019, 4:30 PM

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you know who you are vrcTupper

humble cedar Sep 5, 2019, 4:30 PM

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I got timed out then couldn't reload

covert blade Sep 5, 2019, 4:30 PM

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No

broken plover Sep 5, 2019, 4:30 PM

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I fixed the reactions in #vrchat-general-1

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i consider myself a hero

humble cedar Sep 5, 2019, 4:31 PM

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When game restarts completely, still cant reload

covert blade Sep 5, 2019, 4:31 PM

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I want to have at least one channel where we can have a conversation

rigid crescent Sep 5, 2019, 4:31 PM

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you cant have that when there's server issues

dense tree Sep 5, 2019, 4:31 PM

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can anyone get back in?

umbral reef Sep 5, 2019, 4:31 PM

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Give it a while

covert blade Sep 5, 2019, 4:31 PM

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Don't tell me what I can't :<

ancient scaffold Sep 5, 2019, 4:31 PM

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Server issues and normal conversation at the same time, what is this reality you speak of

median pecan Sep 5, 2019, 4:31 PM

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i have black screen after log in

humble cedar Sep 5, 2019, 4:31 PM

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I think they're cooking eggs and bacon on the servers

ornate finch Sep 5, 2019, 4:32 PM

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and i'm in

broken plover Sep 5, 2019, 4:32 PM

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@covert blade nobody's in #general-media I think thats a nice place to chat without "dead server spam"

ancient scaffold Sep 5, 2019, 4:32 PM

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You guys are making me hungry with all this food talk

floral quiver Sep 5, 2019, 4:32 PM

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hope they share that bacon and eggs

inner cape Sep 5, 2019, 4:32 PM

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it was only a matter of time until they assimilate general just like public chat

vocal shard Sep 5, 2019, 4:32 PM

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Everyone have it, just go twitch vrchat streams everyone is off, it's not your problem @median pecan

covert blade Sep 5, 2019, 4:32 PM

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!online

floral flaxBOT Sep 5, 2019, 4:32 PM

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There are 3226 users in VRChat currently

coral obsidian Sep 5, 2019, 4:33 PM

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!online

floral flaxBOT Sep 5, 2019, 4:33 PM

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There are 3163 users in VRChat currently

coral obsidian Sep 5, 2019, 4:33 PM

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did the game crashed ?

rigid crescent Sep 5, 2019, 4:33 PM

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yes

coral obsidian Sep 5, 2019, 4:33 PM

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for everyone else too ?

vocal shard Sep 5, 2019, 4:33 PM

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servers crashed

coral obsidian Sep 5, 2019, 4:33 PM

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ow okay

vagrant sapphire Sep 5, 2019, 4:33 PM

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when will they be back up?

umbral reef Sep 5, 2019, 4:34 PM

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Once they say it will be

polar jasper Sep 5, 2019, 4:34 PM

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vrcSoon They're looking into it

vagrant sapphire Sep 5, 2019, 4:34 PM

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oof

idle elm Sep 5, 2019, 4:34 PM

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As soon as possible. They are working hard on it right now.

river wagon Sep 5, 2019, 4:34 PM

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MASS PANIC

cold talon Sep 5, 2019, 4:34 PM

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The cpu coolers fell off the servers, please be patient while they are ductaping it back on

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Thank you for your cooperation

broken plover Sep 5, 2019, 4:35 PM

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Theyre not working on putting the coolers back on, the microwave broke and they needed to heat up some leftover pizza

coral obsidian Sep 5, 2019, 4:36 PM

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@cold talon xD

neat chasm Sep 5, 2019, 4:38 PM

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!online

floral flaxBOT Sep 5, 2019, 4:38 PM

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There are 2766 users in VRChat currently

viscid crow Sep 5, 2019, 4:38 PM

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rippo

short juniper Sep 5, 2019, 4:39 PM

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so whats going on got into my home world realize its set to public

sick garnet Sep 5, 2019, 4:39 PM

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vrcAevSlap

cold talon Sep 5, 2019, 4:40 PM

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Ye servers are having some trouwbel uwu you might be sent back to a public world if it fails to load

stark scarab Sep 5, 2019, 4:40 PM

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lol 2766 users in game and my friend list at FRIENDS 1061

covert blade Sep 5, 2019, 4:41 PM

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You do know that the "10" is "10 listed friends on the website" and not "10 friends online"

stark scarab Sep 5, 2019, 4:42 PM

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i know i fast copy paste

covert blade Sep 5, 2019, 4:42 PM

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Also 1k friends

stark scarab Sep 5, 2019, 4:42 PM

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here ill edit it

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ya na i been around so long people send them to me

muted maple Sep 5, 2019, 4:44 PM

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Grr

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Now works

stark scarab Sep 5, 2019, 4:45 PM

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so anyone having issues connecting to servers too?

stark forge Sep 5, 2019, 4:45 PM

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Yea

muted maple Sep 5, 2019, 4:45 PM

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A bit, but works mostly

stark scarab Sep 5, 2019, 4:50 PM

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FRIENDS 1061/1061 i must be bored to do this

covert blade Sep 5, 2019, 4:51 PM

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Indeed

vocal shard Sep 5, 2019, 4:51 PM

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!online

floral flaxBOT Sep 5, 2019, 4:51 PM

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There are 3797 users in VRChat currently

plain willow Sep 5, 2019, 4:59 PM

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Big oof time

languid beacon Sep 5, 2019, 5:07 PM

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What happened, log in issues?

vocal shard Sep 5, 2019, 5:09 PM

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Server dropped a bunch of players

earnest vortex Sep 5, 2019, 5:11 PM

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F

mellow herald Sep 5, 2019, 5:14 PM

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Im getting a bit annoyed. There is now a update again and I now have login issues. I can't find any update anywhere. Im just going to sleep or something.

ivory axle Sep 5, 2019, 5:15 PM

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i log in fine

vocal shard Sep 5, 2019, 5:15 PM

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The server are having trouble right now. So that's probably why you can't log in. It's not the VRChat client

ivory axle Sep 5, 2019, 5:15 PM

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my problem is crashing occasionally

mellow herald Sep 5, 2019, 5:15 PM

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Okay.

vocal shard Sep 5, 2019, 5:15 PM

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servers are super spotty right now

mellow herald Sep 5, 2019, 5:16 PM

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😴

languid beacon Sep 5, 2019, 5:17 PM

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There was no announcement today. Do you mean the one from Yesterday? It’s not a required update.

mellow herald Sep 5, 2019, 5:17 PM

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yeah

gloomy valve Sep 5, 2019, 5:26 PM

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Oh no! I was going to jump in tonight

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Is this just a simple server issue that can be fixed?

viscid halo Sep 5, 2019, 5:27 PM

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If this was a simple server issue it would be fixed already lmao

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Welcome to IT

vocal shard Sep 5, 2019, 5:37 PM

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If it's a server issue, it might not be completely in their control. We'll just have to wait and see

boreal creek Sep 5, 2019, 5:46 PM

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vrcMimi

glad bolt Sep 5, 2019, 5:57 PM

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Oof, glad I looked in here before I hopped on.

dim thorn Sep 5, 2019, 6:04 PM

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oh my

idle oar Sep 5, 2019, 6:06 PM

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vrcThinking

neon quartz Sep 5, 2019, 6:11 PM

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Do I need three trackers for full body, or can I just use to for my feet. How about just one for my waist

broken plover Sep 5, 2019, 6:13 PM

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you can use one for waist or three for waist and legs

rigid crescent Sep 5, 2019, 6:13 PM

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one for the waist is exactly that

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a waste tanabae

vocal shard Sep 5, 2019, 6:13 PM

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You need at least the hip tracker. It becomes your root bone when you use full body

rigid crescent Sep 5, 2019, 6:14 PM

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get all 3 or just save your money for all 3, no point in just getting the waist

broken plover Sep 5, 2019, 6:14 PM

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the only time you want to only use waist is if only 1 arrived and the other 2 trackers have longer shipping

neon quartz Sep 5, 2019, 6:16 PM

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Just curious if I can just get the feet for now. But are you saying the waist is 100%needed first?

broken plover Sep 5, 2019, 6:16 PM

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yes, waist is 100% needed first

vocal shard Sep 5, 2019, 6:16 PM

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Yes, the waist is required. If you just get the feet, it will automatically assign one as the waist

weak hearth Sep 5, 2019, 6:17 PM

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Security update. Can't get crashed if you can't log in.

broken plover Sep 5, 2019, 6:17 PM

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lol

weak hearth Sep 5, 2019, 6:17 PM

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200IQ patch

vocal shard Sep 5, 2019, 6:17 PM

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This wasn't from the patch. This is more likely the servers, which is not hosted by vrchat

neon quartz Sep 5, 2019, 6:17 PM

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If you just have the waist, at least you wouldn't look like a stiff robot, would you?

tender ermine Sep 5, 2019, 6:18 PM

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are there any sites where you can find avatars or easily riggable models for VRC? I'm looking for something specific but don't know where to look

vocal shard Sep 5, 2019, 6:18 PM

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You can move your hip, but it's not as noticable as real full body. You can do things like bend your upper body and your waist stays in place

broken plover Sep 5, 2019, 6:19 PM

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why is this "word" banned

vocal shard Sep 5, 2019, 6:19 PM

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Because that site hosts tos breaking content, and stolen unity assets

broken plover Sep 5, 2019, 6:19 PM

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oh, ok

vocal shard Sep 5, 2019, 6:20 PM

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So vrchat wants to make sure it's clear they are not associated with it

half path Sep 5, 2019, 6:20 PM

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the ol' "we are not liable" trick eh?

tender ermine Sep 5, 2019, 6:21 PM

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okay rip my question then

broken plover Sep 5, 2019, 6:21 PM

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well if you are expierienced with blender you look for the parts on deviant art and put them together and then import them into unity

pastel galleon Sep 5, 2019, 6:21 PM

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You can look in niconico, deviantart, or booth if you are willing to pay

turbid trellis Sep 5, 2019, 6:22 PM

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I'm getting a lot of Perf Blocked users. I'm talking at least half the people I see have it. I know im on an i5 3570k and a GTX970 but it used to work fine

pastel galleon Sep 5, 2019, 6:22 PM

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Or bowroll

tender ermine Sep 5, 2019, 6:22 PM

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the only thing I can somewhat do on Blender is sculpting kek

broken plover Sep 5, 2019, 6:22 PM

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good thing that tutorials exist

turbid trellis Sep 5, 2019, 6:22 PM

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Look up a rigging tutorial, it's super easy

sour willow Sep 5, 2019, 6:25 PM

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Only 1000 friends @stark scarab ? Try 1500.

broken plover Sep 5, 2019, 6:26 PM

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i have 129... :/

rigid crescent Sep 5, 2019, 6:28 PM

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what a waste lol

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sounds like 1300 strangers you'll never talk to or see that you still have to scroll through tanabae

tender ermine Sep 5, 2019, 6:30 PM

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oh well rip can't find what i wanted on any of those sites.

torn nebula Sep 5, 2019, 6:31 PM

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Eh... I find having a large friends list helpful for when someone I actually know is in someone else's friends only instance, or when I use the API to find instances that look interesting/active during quiet hours

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To each their own though

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I do make heavy use of friend favorites of course

broken plover Sep 5, 2019, 6:32 PM

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I rarely have to scroll to see all my online friends... I dont have that many active friends

vocal shard Sep 5, 2019, 6:33 PM

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I just add anyone, but keep my friends I know in my groups tabs

torn nebula Sep 5, 2019, 6:33 PM

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At busy times I might see 100-150 online or so, of which a few dozen are active in groups

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Having more/larger groups would be nice though

desert stratus Sep 5, 2019, 6:36 PM

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i might start slashing people off, but for the most part i just make do by adding / removing people from favorites lists

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its fun to join people like "hey, why the fuck are you on my friends list?"

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and if im having bad luck in public worlds i can usually bet on people ive added before to be friendly

torn nebula Sep 5, 2019, 6:38 PM

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Yeah, I don't mind it if someone I met once months before joins me in F+ so I'm happy to leave them on my friends list

desert stratus Sep 5, 2019, 6:38 PM

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unless of course i try to play in between noon and sundown, which is pretty much erp hours or something, idk everyone is in private worlds at that time

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ikrr, thats the best part, whe someonee else joins on you and its been months

covert blade Sep 5, 2019, 6:38 PM

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my avatar wont load

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none I pick do

torn nebula Sep 5, 2019, 6:40 PM

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@covert blade server problems, give it some time

covert blade Sep 5, 2019, 6:42 PM

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fixed it

vocal shard Sep 5, 2019, 6:51 PM

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Is it confirmed to be Server Issues? I literally almost threw my headset out my window X.X

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yes

desert stratus Sep 5, 2019, 6:52 PM

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it is, something about photon being dumby wumby i think

vocal shard Sep 5, 2019, 6:52 PM

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RIP

ruby needle Sep 5, 2019, 6:52 PM

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info soon(tm) cirBaka

umbral reef Sep 5, 2019, 6:52 PM

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When is soon :^)

vocal shard Sep 5, 2019, 6:52 PM

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"info soon" - i wonder if its going to be a post mortem or just a "there was an issue, it has been fixed"

inner cape Sep 5, 2019, 6:53 PM

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vrcSoon

vocal shard Sep 5, 2019, 6:53 PM

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20 days later

desert stratus Sep 5, 2019, 6:55 PM

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"hey guys, tupper here. the team has bought photon and fixed the problem themselves. however, now that we own photon, udon will be delayed to about...ehh...2021. thanks for watching the dev stream!"

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/s, betting that everything will be fine before tomorrow

ruby needle Sep 5, 2019, 6:55 PM

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about right now

inner cape Sep 5, 2019, 6:55 PM

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there it is

desert stratus Sep 5, 2019, 6:55 PM

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the fuck?

stray temple Sep 5, 2019, 6:55 PM

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#A

vocal shard Sep 5, 2019, 6:56 PM

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Meh, I just finished uploading avatars and wanted to test them out so idrc

umbral reef Sep 5, 2019, 6:56 PM

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Thats a neat funding series

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Like a really neat one dope

tidal aspen Sep 5, 2019, 6:56 PM

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time for people to complain about how they have 10 million but aren't fixing anything

slate verge Sep 5, 2019, 6:56 PM

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can't see the announcement

desert stratus Sep 5, 2019, 6:56 PM

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cool beans.

vagrant sapphire Sep 5, 2019, 6:56 PM

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Worst time to post that

desert stratus Sep 5, 2019, 6:57 PM

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ehh htc gave them $10m

inner cape Sep 5, 2019, 6:57 PM

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restart discord

umbral reef Sep 5, 2019, 6:57 PM

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@slate verge announcement about there funding series https://medium.com/vrchat/vrchat-partners-with-htc-and-makers-fund-to-close-10m-series-c-50ea04d5ca23

desert stratus Sep 5, 2019, 6:57 PM

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thats the announcement >u>

vocal shard Sep 5, 2019, 6:57 PM

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RIP Tupper

slate verge Sep 5, 2019, 6:57 PM

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ablobthinking

umbral reef Sep 5, 2019, 6:57 PM

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Also its not 'just htc giving them money'

wild sleet Sep 5, 2019, 6:57 PM

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Inb4 dev team gets flamed ad nauseum for any flaws because of this

rigid crescent Sep 5, 2019, 6:57 PM

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What do you mean? it already happened last year

desert stratus Sep 5, 2019, 6:57 PM

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ik, just grossly putting it

sinful matrix Sep 5, 2019, 6:57 PM

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Anyone have any problems with the audio in the VR headset today i can hear people in front me and on the backside as well like WTF? anyone did experienced that today?

rigid crescent Sep 5, 2019, 6:57 PM

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with the HTCbux

slate verge Sep 5, 2019, 6:58 PM

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is that a good thing? partnering up with htc?

tidal aspen Sep 5, 2019, 6:58 PM

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it wasn't very public last time though iirc

desert stratus Sep 5, 2019, 6:58 PM

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htc should bring back vivetix so i can buy vrchat premium

slate verge Sep 5, 2019, 6:58 PM

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i don't see any down sides to it

vocal shard Sep 5, 2019, 6:58 PM

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Just add loot boxes, it worked out for EA

broken plover Sep 5, 2019, 6:58 PM

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lol

rigid crescent Sep 5, 2019, 6:59 PM

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emoji lootboxes pls

umbral reef Sep 5, 2019, 6:59 PM

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But dope to see they got makersfund
If i recall right they also helped Tinybuilds

rigid crescent Sep 5, 2019, 6:59 PM

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it was pretty public, there was an article about it

vocal shard Sep 5, 2019, 6:59 PM

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Each loot box comes with an emote or avatar. Both of which u can also pay $9.99 for on the brand new VRStore

stray temple Sep 5, 2019, 6:59 PM

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HTC straggle with there business recent years so hope they got way to resolve

inner cape Sep 5, 2019, 7:00 PM

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https://miro.medium.com/max/5120/1*SfnAN-rYI23sBBs2RUmzag.gif

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👏🗿

vocal shard Sep 5, 2019, 7:00 PM

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That UDON sneak peek in the blog post though 👀 Can't wait!

lyric urchin Sep 5, 2019, 7:00 PM

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agreed

tidal aspen Sep 5, 2019, 7:00 PM

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UDON

slate verge Sep 5, 2019, 7:00 PM

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hey their team is hiring!

umbral reef Sep 5, 2019, 7:00 PM

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Tbh, if the udon is fairly light weight its not odd they could flex this funding series as its tech thats dope even outside of VR

inner cape Sep 5, 2019, 7:00 PM

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that's not new

vocal shard Sep 5, 2019, 7:00 PM

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Yo, I’m lowkey dumb af, what’s UDON?

rigid crescent Sep 5, 2019, 7:01 PM

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read the article

vocal shard Sep 5, 2019, 7:01 PM

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Seems legit

covert chasm Sep 5, 2019, 7:02 PM

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that's the first time we've shown off the latest Udon node graph UI, I believe 🤔

rigid crescent Sep 5, 2019, 7:02 PM

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gravity :0

umbral reef Sep 5, 2019, 7:02 PM

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Jup

lyric urchin Sep 5, 2019, 7:02 PM

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it looks smooth as hell

neat dawn Sep 5, 2019, 7:02 PM

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epic gamer moment

tidal aspen Sep 5, 2019, 7:02 PM

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You linked some glitched version when it was first announced right?

floral aspen Sep 5, 2019, 7:02 PM

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Yeah, wasn't expecting to see a gif of udon in action. That was a nice surprise

covert chasm Sep 5, 2019, 7:02 PM

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Udon's been through a few internal iterations, this is the latest and greatest

brittle jolt Sep 5, 2019, 7:02 PM

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Any kind of social experience you could want should exist, and if it doesn’t, somebody should be able to create it. [...]

- Graham Gaylor, CEO```

Any kind of social experience you say? 🤔 👀

hollow breach Sep 5, 2019, 7:03 PM

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D:

abstract flower Sep 5, 2019, 7:03 PM

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like shaking hands.

sour willow Sep 5, 2019, 7:03 PM

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Sending people pictures of Pee-wee Herman can really annoy them easily.

covert chasm Sep 5, 2019, 7:03 PM

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the people working on Udon have been doing essentially non-stop work on making it super powerful, super-performant, and secure. I'm really excited for when we finally get it in people's hands HyperPat

broken plover Sep 5, 2019, 7:04 PM

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even going out for a snack?

covert chasm Sep 5, 2019, 7:04 PM

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showing off even this little tidbit is exciting

neat dawn Sep 5, 2019, 7:04 PM

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any kind of social experience

tidal aspen Sep 5, 2019, 7:04 PM

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so any eta 👀 ?

neat dawn Sep 5, 2019, 7:04 PM

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😏

vocal shard Sep 5, 2019, 7:04 PM

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Still in beta btw

ivory axle Sep 5, 2019, 7:04 PM

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Gg on the funding

vocal shard Sep 5, 2019, 7:04 PM

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Yeet

sour willow Sep 5, 2019, 7:04 PM

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Funding more like done-thing.

ivory axle Sep 5, 2019, 7:04 PM

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Isnt it stillin beta to avoid copyright stuff? Thats what i heard

covert chasm Sep 5, 2019, 7:04 PM

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@tidal aspen See our previous blog posts and dev streams-- tl;dr is Q4 2019 for open beta and release

floral aspen Sep 5, 2019, 7:05 PM

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Udon is almost like the VRChat singularity. The game will be forever changed and I can't wait to see what people make with it

covert chasm Sep 5, 2019, 7:05 PM

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its currently in internal testing and will go into closed beta vrcSoon

ivory axle Sep 5, 2019, 7:05 PM

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Whats udon

gusty void Sep 5, 2019, 7:05 PM

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Interesting

hollow breach Sep 5, 2019, 7:05 PM

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wait wat is this udon talk? someone plz explain to me :3

covert chasm Sep 5, 2019, 7:05 PM

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@ivory axle

VRChat “Udon” is an in-development programming language designed specifically for VRChat. It utilizes a “node graph” graphical interface to permit both new and experienced users to create complex, interactive content for their VRChat worlds.

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please read the blog 🙃

hollow breach Sep 5, 2019, 7:05 PM

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I cant read

lyric urchin Sep 5, 2019, 7:05 PM

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i personally can't wait for udon because one of the things i love to do in VRChat is go around worlds with trains (esepcially the worlds that are connected by virtual railway lines) and seeing how udon can boost the possibilities for those worlds

broken plover Sep 5, 2019, 7:05 PM

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text to speech exists for a reason

ivory axle Sep 5, 2019, 7:05 PM

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Ill read the blog just a tad bisy atm ty tupper

vocal shard Sep 5, 2019, 7:06 PM

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So when the game is in full release will it cost money?

hollow breach Sep 5, 2019, 7:06 PM

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im also deaf

brittle jolt Sep 5, 2019, 7:06 PM

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Udon

finite swift Sep 5, 2019, 7:06 PM

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wow

inner cape Sep 5, 2019, 7:06 PM

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December is the hype time for vrchat by tradition, so naturally that's when udon is getting cooked

vocal shard Sep 5, 2019, 7:06 PM

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wait

brittle jolt Sep 5, 2019, 7:06 PM

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jk btw :^)

tidal aspen Sep 5, 2019, 7:06 PM

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I prefer ramen tbh

vocal shard Sep 5, 2019, 7:06 PM

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was the vrchat udon gif the "secret one"

covert chasm Sep 5, 2019, 7:06 PM

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aye

vocal shard Sep 5, 2019, 7:06 PM

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found it

umbral reef Sep 5, 2019, 7:07 PM

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Ow dope you guys also got a press kit now

inner cape Sep 5, 2019, 7:07 PM

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took you awhile 🐦

umbral reef Sep 5, 2019, 7:07 PM

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Officially a proper company now

shell raft Sep 5, 2019, 7:07 PM

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does udon mean we're going to be able to make actual games in vrchat

vocal shard Sep 5, 2019, 7:07 PM

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Now get to work on those bugs lol

desert stratus Sep 5, 2019, 7:07 PM

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mhm

tidal aspen Sep 5, 2019, 7:07 PM

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more or less

brittle jolt Sep 5, 2019, 7:07 PM

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Is VRChat gonna have Stocks? And if so where do I need to sign? :^)

desert stratus Sep 5, 2019, 7:07 PM

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no more trigger shit or whatever world devs do

tidal aspen Sep 5, 2019, 7:08 PM

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you can make a "game" right now without udon but it can be pretty painful

shell raft Sep 5, 2019, 7:08 PM

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VRCoin cryptocurrency incoming? 🙂

broken plover Sep 5, 2019, 7:08 PM

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vrcstonks lol

slate verge Sep 5, 2019, 7:08 PM

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@desert stratus hi solar are you busy? can i dm you?

desert stratus Sep 5, 2019, 7:08 PM

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now you can finally program shit into your world like a normal dev, and do more than youd previously be able to do

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not busy, whats up?

sour willow Sep 5, 2019, 7:08 PM

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I want cute pics too.

slate verge Sep 5, 2019, 7:09 PM

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uh...were you the one who suggested something about OVR toolkit awhile back?

desert stratus Sep 5, 2019, 7:09 PM

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that mighht've been triping.

slate verge Sep 5, 2019, 7:09 PM

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oh okies

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i wanted to ask if you know how to use it

rigid crescent Sep 5, 2019, 7:10 PM

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there's super clear instructions vrcTrollThinking

ancient scaffold Sep 5, 2019, 7:10 PM

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It's pretty easy to use

slate verge Sep 5, 2019, 7:10 PM

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well i followed it and then i just had no clue what the other button does

ancient scaffold Sep 5, 2019, 7:10 PM

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What button?

polar rose Sep 5, 2019, 7:10 PM

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did anybody find the super secret tease that this blog post / announcement had? 🙂

desert stratus Sep 5, 2019, 7:10 PM

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ive never used it before soo i wouldnt know what to say

slate verge Sep 5, 2019, 7:10 PM

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they said to press the grip buttons on the vive controller to open edit mode?

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but then what do you do after that, its kinda bland

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this is inside of vrc too btw

ancient scaffold Sep 5, 2019, 7:11 PM

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I usually close all windows at first, open a new window in world then select the window i want

pure hemlock Sep 5, 2019, 7:11 PM

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I am excited for Udon but I fear because of the latency issues in VRChat, multiplayer experiences with it will continue to be extremely subpar (see murder game latency issues).

slate verge Sep 5, 2019, 7:12 PM

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@desert stratus oh and i wanted to ask, did my home world got bugged or something? cuz every time i start up vr it puts me into a different world

desert stratus Sep 5, 2019, 7:12 PM

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well at the very least, more people would start making good game worlds

slate verge Sep 5, 2019, 7:12 PM

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public and its embarrassing ffs

ancient scaffold Sep 5, 2019, 7:12 PM

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Wait so I first heard about udon ages and ages ago, can someone refresh my memory

desert stratus Sep 5, 2019, 7:12 PM

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ehh, ive never heard of that issue before. weird 🤔

pure hemlock Sep 5, 2019, 7:12 PM

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Visual scripting language for worlds

ancient scaffold Sep 5, 2019, 7:13 PM

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Ah yeah I remember

desert stratus Sep 5, 2019, 7:13 PM

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wow i cant believe they're adding scratch to vrchat.

ancient scaffold Sep 5, 2019, 7:13 PM

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LOL

inner cape Sep 5, 2019, 7:13 PM

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and potentially for avatars too*

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but that's just a theory. a game theory.

desert stratus Sep 5, 2019, 7:13 PM

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i swear to god if they add udon for avatars i will

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do something. with my avatars. yeah.

slate verge Sep 5, 2019, 7:13 PM

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😄

pure hemlock Sep 5, 2019, 7:14 PM

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In theory it's going to make VRChat worlds become far more easier to build, and you'll be able to build a lot cooler stuff thanks to being able to actually.. script them. But unless they overhaul the networking system, experiences that require interaction between players are still going to suck because of the bad latency.

inner cape Sep 5, 2019, 7:14 PM

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they are adding more tools for avatar makers, we just dont know what exactly
I'm more excited for that than udon
unless udon comes to avatars

slate verge Sep 5, 2019, 7:14 PM

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so like game modes can become actual games like real video games?

pure hemlock Sep 5, 2019, 7:14 PM

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Yah in theory

ancient scaffold Sep 5, 2019, 7:14 PM

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Lmao it's becoming the seed from sao

tidal aspen Sep 5, 2019, 7:15 PM

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It'd be kinda like a scripting thing so you could made different types of games modes and such

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but you'd obviously need to know how

slate verge Sep 5, 2019, 7:15 PM

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well imagine that, improved horror games

pure hemlock Sep 5, 2019, 7:16 PM

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I also fear the visual nature of it will limit it's capabilities compared to just normal scripts but hopefully it's powerful enough still for some awesome experiences

tidal aspen Sep 5, 2019, 7:16 PM

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you can still do a lot without Udon but it can be a pain since it's a lot of hacky work around that tend to break since you might not be using certain things the way they were intended

pure hemlock Sep 5, 2019, 7:16 PM

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Building complex stuff in visual scripting can also be very.. visually messy obviously.

tidal aspen Sep 5, 2019, 7:17 PM

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Unreal Engine has a blue print system which is all node based so I can imagine it's similar (but wouldn't have access to lower level stuff obviously)

torn nebula Sep 5, 2019, 7:17 PM

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Would've preferred that the text representation come first but we'll see soon enough how well it works in practice I guess

tidal aspen Sep 5, 2019, 7:17 PM

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if there are good tools for grouping nodes it's not too bad

inner cape Sep 5, 2019, 7:17 PM

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improved horror games sounds exciting

floral aspen Sep 5, 2019, 7:17 PM

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Which is why Udon will be great in a lot of situations. Something that was a pain in the ass and required lots of workarounds in the current sdk may only require a few nodes in Udon.

spice plume Sep 5, 2019, 7:17 PM

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thats crazy

pure hemlock Sep 5, 2019, 7:17 PM

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I think they're avoiding textual scripting for security reasons. Visual node systems are easier to manage.

spice plume Sep 5, 2019, 7:18 PM

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10mil raised? TFFFF

desert stratus Sep 5, 2019, 7:18 PM

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did someone say working horror games??

inner cape Sep 5, 2019, 7:18 PM

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hell yeah

floral aspen Sep 5, 2019, 7:18 PM

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That being said I'd love text based scripting too.

torn nebula Sep 5, 2019, 7:18 PM

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@pure hemlock eh, you could always use editor extensions to construct udon scripts outside of the bounds of the GUI

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So what really matters are restrictions on the abstract language, not how it's expressed

tidal aspen Sep 5, 2019, 7:19 PM

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yeah I much prefer text based scripting, but node graphs are 100x better than nothing

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makes it less daunting to new users as well

polar jasper Sep 5, 2019, 7:20 PM

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There will be someone who make a text to udon converter

stray temple Sep 5, 2019, 7:20 PM

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Agree

torn nebula Sep 5, 2019, 7:20 PM

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@polar jasper you could call it Soba

stray temple Sep 5, 2019, 7:20 PM

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Huhh

pure hemlock Sep 5, 2019, 7:20 PM

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Node graphs are better than nothing definitely.

polar jasper Sep 5, 2019, 7:20 PM

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Soba eh

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Not a bad name ^^

torn nebula Sep 5, 2019, 7:21 PM

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Or Linguini

floral aspen Sep 5, 2019, 7:21 PM

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If they are worried about security in text based scripting I wonder why they don't just restrict access to certain namespaces or certain functions within a namespace.

pure hemlock Sep 5, 2019, 7:21 PM

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And even though you could write a text-udon transpiler , you'd still be limited to what Udon lets you do

torn nebula Sep 5, 2019, 7:21 PM

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@pure hemlock that depends on how much of the restrictions come from the GUI and how much comes from the backend

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That said it's been a while since I wrote a transpiler, that might be a fun project

polar jasper Sep 5, 2019, 7:22 PM

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You could also put this into a plugin that shows a error when you use functions/methods that isn't allowed

pure hemlock Sep 5, 2019, 7:23 PM

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Yah we'll see. I am excited for it.

covert chasm Sep 5, 2019, 7:23 PM

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i fully expect and am excited for people writing transpilers PATTING

stray temple Sep 5, 2019, 7:23 PM

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Tupper comes back!?

torn nebula Sep 5, 2019, 7:24 PM

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brb compiling a perl interpreter to webasm and running it on an udon JS engine

grave dagger Sep 5, 2019, 7:24 PM

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Will UDON allow persistence across sessions? 👀💦

sullen escarp Sep 5, 2019, 7:24 PM

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shouldn't take too long for people to write, it just comes down to generating control flow graphs

rose timber Sep 5, 2019, 7:24 PM

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no need to trans-pile -- you can com-pile

floral aspen Sep 5, 2019, 7:24 PM

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I remember Ron mentioning that they'd like to eventually have some form of persistence across worlds

torn nebula Sep 5, 2019, 7:25 PM

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Oh? Do you have some kind of bytecode?

rose timber Sep 5, 2019, 7:25 PM

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yup!

torn nebula Sep 5, 2019, 7:25 PM

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Nice!

sullen escarp Sep 5, 2019, 7:25 PM

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blessed

grave dagger Sep 5, 2019, 7:25 PM

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persistence would be amazing 😍

stray temple Sep 5, 2019, 7:25 PM

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Nce

umbral reef Sep 5, 2019, 7:25 PM

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Papabless

torn nebula Sep 5, 2019, 7:25 PM

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Documented? ;)

brittle jolt Sep 5, 2019, 7:25 PM

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Nah better write in Assembly yourself :^)

umbral reef Sep 5, 2019, 7:25 PM

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The more i hear about udon the more im hyped for it really

grave dagger Sep 5, 2019, 7:26 PM

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Imagine being able to save your progress in climbing maps 😊

tidal aspen Sep 5, 2019, 7:26 PM

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yeah persistence data would be great, even if it's not here now with udon you could probably create a sort of password system

desert stratus Sep 5, 2019, 7:26 PM

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udon is like the one thing holding me back from finally learning how to make worlds. well, there's also the fact that i'v eopnly uploaded one hack of a world, dont really know how to 3d model or texture, never did lighting....udon guys, yeahh??

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i just want udon for avatars mann.

polar jasper Sep 5, 2019, 7:26 PM

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Start learning C# now and you'll be good when Udon comes out

covert chasm Sep 5, 2019, 7:26 PM

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@torn nebula please write a compiler for Udon using https://github.com/lambdacasserole/uwuscript, thanks in advance

desert stratus Sep 5, 2019, 7:27 PM

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oh boy, so that's like 10 reasons for me to learrn C# now, thanks!

floral aspen Sep 5, 2019, 7:27 PM

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Would learning c# really be necessary when Udon is node based?

sullen escarp Sep 5, 2019, 7:27 PM

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lmao it's just brainfuck

desert stratus Sep 5, 2019, 7:27 PM

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https://i.imgur.com/MB1BmfQ.png

umbral reef Sep 5, 2019, 7:27 PM

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What if i learned javascript and want to do lovely things like

'5' + 3
< "53"

tidal aspen Sep 5, 2019, 7:27 PM

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eh not even c# just get a grasp on programming basics

desert stratus Sep 5, 2019, 7:27 PM

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why god

torn nebula Sep 5, 2019, 7:27 PM

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@covert chasm this had better not be how vrchat interviews candidates

covert chasm Sep 5, 2019, 7:27 PM

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you have 15 minutes

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good luck

sullen escarp Sep 5, 2019, 7:27 PM

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malbolge to udon compiler when

floral aspen Sep 5, 2019, 7:28 PM

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@covert chasm that language is an abomination

desert stratus Sep 5, 2019, 7:28 PM

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oh no its fine, ive done like barely enough programming that i'll probably be fine. im probably gonna do more anyway cuz of personal reasons

stray temple Sep 5, 2019, 7:28 PM

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15min!?

brittle jolt Sep 5, 2019, 7:28 PM

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@umbral reef
'5'.ToInt() + 3
:^) (took me a bit)

stray temple Sep 5, 2019, 7:28 PM

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Good luck bd...

umbral reef Sep 5, 2019, 7:28 PM

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Tbh i kinda regret learning javascript as my first language as im used to the dumb things it does by now

sullen escarp Sep 5, 2019, 7:28 PM

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just switch to a better language

floral aspen Sep 5, 2019, 7:29 PM

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JavaScript just seems like a royal pain. I'm excited for blazor to come out of preview so I can just use c# instead

polar jasper Sep 5, 2019, 7:29 PM

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Rewrite Unity then 🤷

torn nebula Sep 5, 2019, 7:29 PM

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@covert chasm send me the udon bytecode docs tonight and I'll see what I can do? ;)

polar jasper Sep 5, 2019, 7:29 PM

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^ lol

sullen escarp Sep 5, 2019, 7:29 PM

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when will udon be rewritten to bootstrap compile udon?

torn nebula Sep 5, 2019, 7:30 PM

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15 mins might be a bit tight though lol

brittle jolt Sep 5, 2019, 7:30 PM

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Thats the time the devs got as well tho :^)

stray temple Sep 5, 2019, 7:30 PM

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Everyone busy with something...

umbral reef Sep 5, 2019, 7:31 PM

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Also tupper we all know http://www.dangermouse.net/esoteric/piet.html Piet is the best programming language

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Can we get a Piet -> Udon convertor going please?

dire ember Sep 5, 2019, 7:31 PM

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How do I get my bones to connect to my base model in blender.. like I think ik how but I wasnt working

dawn mortar Sep 5, 2019, 7:32 PM

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weight paint and skinning

floral aspen Sep 5, 2019, 7:32 PM

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Weight paint

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#avatars-2-general will be able to help you out

placid umbra Sep 5, 2019, 7:33 PM

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@umbral reef The examples of code provided for that are pretty impressive

dire ember Sep 5, 2019, 7:33 PM

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K

calm ether Sep 5, 2019, 7:33 PM

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Can someone explain what udon is? I googled and found no answer besides it's a scripting system.

ancient scaffold Sep 5, 2019, 7:33 PM

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That's what it is

stray temple Sep 5, 2019, 7:33 PM

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Next gen scripting

floral aspen Sep 5, 2019, 7:33 PM

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You answered your own question

calm ether Sep 5, 2019, 7:33 PM

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What does that mean

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I'm not programmer

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Is it a language? An engine?

tidal aspen Sep 5, 2019, 7:34 PM

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basically allows basic programming in VRchat worlds

inner saddle Sep 5, 2019, 7:34 PM

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why is vrchat still down for me 😔

desert stratus Sep 5, 2019, 7:34 PM

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its pretty much a language

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ever used scratch.edu? udon.

calm ether Sep 5, 2019, 7:34 PM

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An sdk

umbral reef Sep 5, 2019, 7:34 PM

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@calm ether Tl;dr instead of having to write code you can drag the 'blocks' and connect them. Meaning the level to program is a lot easier and people that are not programmers can make cool things.

stray temple Sep 5, 2019, 7:34 PM

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It takes time....dav

inner cape Sep 5, 2019, 7:34 PM

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does being a no life here count as user support experience I wonder vrcThinking

calm ether Sep 5, 2019, 7:34 PM

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Oh so it's like scratch

desert stratus Sep 5, 2019, 7:34 PM

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so ~~now~~ in like december you dont have to use vrc redstone aka triggers to do shit for your worlds uwu

floral aspen Sep 5, 2019, 7:34 PM

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It's a node based system. Different nodes do different things and you link them together to get the desired result

calm ether Sep 5, 2019, 7:35 PM

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A visual programming language

umbral reef Sep 5, 2019, 7:35 PM

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Now we can make proper Minecraft redstone worlds within VRchat

floral aspen Sep 5, 2019, 7:35 PM

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Look in the blog post for an example of Udon in action

sullen escarp Sep 5, 2019, 7:35 PM

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i'm excited for our new command block upgrade

stray temple Sep 5, 2019, 7:35 PM

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GUI friendly programming

winged cradle Sep 5, 2019, 7:36 PM

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@umbral reef current trigger system is like red stone

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a little above

vocal shard Sep 5, 2019, 7:37 PM

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are they ever going to do something about people spamming effects that go throughout the entire world/level?

rigid crescent Sep 5, 2019, 7:37 PM

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i think they added a function that lets you hide other peoples avatars, not sure tho

vocal shard Sep 5, 2019, 7:37 PM

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thats annoying as hell but at the same time I dont want to use safety features and gimp things

umbral reef Sep 5, 2019, 7:37 PM

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Havent played around with any triggers beside the OSCI stuff really before it bricked

rigid crescent Sep 5, 2019, 7:37 PM

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I mean, that's what they did about it lol

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they added the features to help users who don't want to see stuff like that. otherwise not much you can do

vocal shard Sep 5, 2019, 7:38 PM

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i just dont see why they can't bring down the max radius or something

umbral reef Sep 5, 2019, 7:38 PM

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They can remove it what makes people angry
They can limit it harshly what will only kinda help and get people angry
They can do nothing and make people angry.

sullen escarp Sep 5, 2019, 7:38 PM

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just mod the entirety of unity lol

calm ether Sep 5, 2019, 7:38 PM

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Seems to me like the most important changes would be making it easier to make/import avatars and upgrading social systems so you can keep track of and message friends in an app and stay together across worlds

vocal shard Sep 5, 2019, 7:38 PM

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instead of me having to run around looking for the 1 idiot constantly spamming something

rigid crescent Sep 5, 2019, 7:38 PM

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It's not already easy to make/import avatars?

umbral reef Sep 5, 2019, 7:38 PM

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@calm ether With udon? Its for worlds, not avatars...

calm ether Sep 5, 2019, 7:39 PM

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No I mean in general

rigid crescent Sep 5, 2019, 7:39 PM

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I bet if I grab a random MMD off DA I can have it ingame in...10 minutes? Maybe less if I don't stop to watch youtube videos

umbral reef Sep 5, 2019, 7:39 PM

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It takes more time loading the things then actually working on it rn

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If you got things set up already. Else the downloading takes the longest for most people

torn nebula Sep 5, 2019, 7:39 PM

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@Beastin#2808 vrchat allows an enormous amount of freedom in shaders; while this makes a lot of neat effects possible, it's also impractical to restrict on a fine grained basis

rigid crescent Sep 5, 2019, 7:39 PM

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Because you can upload literally anything, obviously difficulty will greatly vary

calm ether Sep 5, 2019, 7:39 PM

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Like those are the things that would expand the user base and keep people coming back the most. Also more interactivity and games.

rigid crescent Sep 5, 2019, 7:40 PM

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How can avatar creation be any easer than it is now without some crappy character creator no one will use?

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no one wants to be non-copyright infringing Xbox avatar

calm ether Sep 5, 2019, 7:40 PM

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Ease of use doesn't mean feature poor

vocal shard Sep 5, 2019, 7:40 PM

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@rigid crescent are you kidding, a character creator would be insanely used and that's all you'd see in public

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;-;

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@torn nebula my whole thought was to just kind of have it localized like voice is only seeing/hearing effects within a certain area. I get it if its not possible, it was just a thought

calm ether Sep 5, 2019, 7:41 PM

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Photoshop is relatively easy to use and it's professional grade software

rigid crescent Sep 5, 2019, 7:41 PM

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A character creator most likely wouldn't be nearly as cool as some random public world avatar lol

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So is Unity?

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And thanks to CATs, so is the Blender portion of avatar creation

vocal shard Sep 5, 2019, 7:41 PM

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But people like the easiest route

rigid crescent Sep 5, 2019, 7:41 PM

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Which is why they download stuff from that one site and call it a day

vocal shard Sep 5, 2019, 7:41 PM

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Why I kinda don't want a character creator tbh

sullen escarp Sep 5, 2019, 7:42 PM

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what is vroid studio

rigid crescent Sep 5, 2019, 7:42 PM

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yeah vroid is a good example lol

calm ether Sep 5, 2019, 7:42 PM

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Having to install and set up unity and having to rig everything every time instead of importing a file that people share means most people will never even attempt it

umbral reef Sep 5, 2019, 7:42 PM

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Slusho are you someone who can follow a tutorial step by step?
If so, congratz you can import 80% of all avatars you find. Can you ask questions/send a screenshot of a problem? Congratz you can import 90% of all avatars now.

rigid crescent Sep 5, 2019, 7:42 PM

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Importing a file people share is already a thing

calm ether Sep 5, 2019, 7:42 PM

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If they want mass adoption thats orders of magnitude greater than currently

rigid crescent Sep 5, 2019, 7:42 PM

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Except the thing youre describing exists already

umbral reef Sep 5, 2019, 7:42 PM

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You download some files, throw it in blender, use cats to fix it up, export it to unity and upload it

tidal aspen Sep 5, 2019, 7:43 PM

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I still think a very basic character creator would be nice

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and if they ever add a store or w/e you can easily expand on that

vocal shard Sep 5, 2019, 7:43 PM

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90% of the time you don't need to rig a model you get from DeviantArt or something

umbral reef Sep 5, 2019, 7:43 PM

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No rigging needed most of the time, optimazation gets done within a few seconds, eye tracking and mouth all set up also within a few seconds

rigid crescent Sep 5, 2019, 7:43 PM

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"Hey Slusho, here's this FBX/Prefab (importing a file people share) that you wanted!"

inner cape Sep 5, 2019, 7:43 PM

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as if we dont have enough extremely similar avatar everywhere

rigid crescent Sep 5, 2019, 7:43 PM

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That's literally how Booth models are sold

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and how most models in general should be sold

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via prefab or fbx

calm ether Sep 5, 2019, 7:44 PM

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Discoverability is a big issue too

umbral reef Sep 5, 2019, 7:44 PM

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www.google.com works great tho

calm ether Sep 5, 2019, 7:44 PM

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Running around avatar worlds randomly finding them isn't great

rigid crescent Sep 5, 2019, 7:44 PM

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Exploration is part of the game?

south sorrel Sep 5, 2019, 7:44 PM

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If I have experience rigging by making Smash 4 mods, would making VRChat avatars not be too hard to jump into?

rigid crescent Sep 5, 2019, 7:44 PM

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You'd be better off than most people

south sorrel Sep 5, 2019, 7:44 PM

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I haven't made one and have no clue what goes into it

rigid crescent Sep 5, 2019, 7:45 PM

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your end goal is getting it into Unity pretty much

desert stratus Sep 5, 2019, 7:45 PM

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if you can already rig then you can do vrc avatars

rigid crescent Sep 5, 2019, 7:45 PM

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from there it's e z

desert stratus Sep 5, 2019, 7:45 PM

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just shove that shit into unity and make the SDK pray

umbral reef Sep 5, 2019, 7:45 PM

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Uuu you download an avatar from the webs. Throw it into some programs that do most work. Press a few buttons that a tutorial can show you how to do and its imported.

desert stratus Sep 5, 2019, 7:45 PM

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your target is <70k tris, <4 materials

south sorrel Sep 5, 2019, 7:45 PM

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make the SDK pray lmao

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Ah good to know though. Sounds decently fleshed out

desert stratus Sep 5, 2019, 7:46 PM

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it's honestly rlly nice

south sorrel Sep 5, 2019, 7:47 PM

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Do you need to know Blender or will 3dsMax be fine?

queen bramble Sep 5, 2019, 7:47 PM

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Can someone point me toward the Shiba Squad Official discord

rigid crescent Sep 5, 2019, 7:47 PM

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Can yo uexport to FBX with that?

queen bramble Sep 5, 2019, 7:48 PM

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In DMs

desert stratus Sep 5, 2019, 7:48 PM

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i dont think you need to know blender. blender is just widely popular in the vrc community cuz 1 - its free and 2 - it has a really OP tool specifically for vrc creators that has made creation much more widespread and easier than before

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as long as you can create a completed avatar in 3dsMax (fully rigged and weighted) and export it as .fbx, you'll be fine @south sorrel

queen bramble Sep 5, 2019, 7:48 PM

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I use MAYA rn but don’t understand how to rig and import it to VRC

inner cape Sep 5, 2019, 7:49 PM

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we need a plugin called DOGS that scuffs your model instead

south sorrel Sep 5, 2019, 7:49 PM

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Ohhhh okay, yeah 3dsMax can do that stuff. Thanks!

ionic token Sep 5, 2019, 7:49 PM

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I have had trouble logging into vrchat. It seems to allow me to login using my steam id, but that is not the right one. I don't have any of my social settings or avatars visible in it. Any ideas? I always remember it as being the steam id and password.

inner cape Sep 5, 2019, 7:50 PM

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serveroos are having issues

ionic token Sep 5, 2019, 7:51 PM

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How is the server having a problem relavant considering i get ON, just without any info related to me visible.

stray temple Sep 5, 2019, 7:52 PM

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Nobody confirm anything regard server issue at least I saw

polar rose Sep 5, 2019, 7:53 PM

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@ionic token if you were playing using a VRC account, you need to login using those details, not steam login

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try your email you used to register, and your password

covert blade Sep 5, 2019, 7:55 PM

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When someone's using Shaders to display a helmet HUD and you can see it by moving close enough to it

plucky light Sep 5, 2019, 8:00 PM

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im also not able to login atm

earnest fiber Sep 5, 2019, 8:01 PM

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only some people are

stray temple Sep 5, 2019, 8:03 PM

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Slowly but it is coming back....

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Allow few hour to make it properly working

ionic token Sep 5, 2019, 8:04 PM

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I logged into vrchat.com. I had it send me a reset password to my secondary email account, and I never received it there OR my primary email account.

stray temple Sep 5, 2019, 8:06 PM

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Tried vrchat.net also?

plucky light Sep 5, 2019, 8:06 PM

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im just getting a errerror and then a black screen

snow magnet Sep 5, 2019, 8:06 PM

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How do I automatically log into my vrchat account? It used to automatically log me in but now I have to manually do it every time I launch the game

stray temple Sep 5, 2019, 8:07 PM

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Server not fully ready yet. May takes sometimes..

umbral reef Sep 5, 2019, 8:07 PM

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Clearning cache can fix that problem @snow magnet

stray temple Sep 5, 2019, 8:07 PM

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If IP changed, it goes like that Red...

plucky light Sep 5, 2019, 8:07 PM

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ahh okay

snow magnet Sep 5, 2019, 8:08 PM

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Do I clear cache from within VRChat or is it outside of it? @umbral reef

umbral reef Sep 5, 2019, 8:08 PM

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Both should world i guess but im not sure about that. I do know that outside of VRC clearning can help though. (Its a might, i wont say for sure that it will be solved)

snow magnet Sep 5, 2019, 8:09 PM

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Alright. I'll try it out the next time I launch the game. Thanks @umbral reef

coarse hinge Sep 5, 2019, 8:47 PM

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yeah i can't get pass the login screen 😖

silk shadow Sep 5, 2019, 8:59 PM

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vrchat say it going to available on more platforms in the future i really that it's not going to come to psvr

covert blade Sep 5, 2019, 9:00 PM

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VRChat can't come to PSVR

vestal pier Sep 5, 2019, 9:00 PM

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Can't is very stern

covert blade Sep 5, 2019, 9:00 PM

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Sony would have to make major changes to their policies regarding user generated content

vestal pier Sep 5, 2019, 9:00 PM

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It won't*

covert blade Sep 5, 2019, 9:00 PM

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Ya know, the very thing that keeps the game alive

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So maybe it'll be some low spec version with only stock assets and maps

silk shadow Sep 5, 2019, 9:01 PM

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ok then what could they mean by available on more platforms in the future

storm iris Sep 5, 2019, 9:01 PM

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Hello!

covert blade Sep 5, 2019, 9:02 PM

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¯_(ツ)_/¯

rigid crescent Sep 5, 2019, 9:02 PM

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They mean other platforms?

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Mac, other standalone headsets, etc

vestal pier Sep 5, 2019, 9:02 PM

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Vive focus is an obvious one

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Is that the name of it?

storm iris Sep 5, 2019, 9:02 PM

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Ps4 VR maybe?

vocal shard Sep 5, 2019, 9:02 PM

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Possibly when Vive cosmos comes out, maybe their mobile client?

covert blade Sep 5, 2019, 9:02 PM

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Already said it, PSVR won't happen

storm iris Sep 5, 2019, 9:02 PM

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oh ok

silk shadow Sep 5, 2019, 9:03 PM

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or both

vestal pier Sep 5, 2019, 9:03 PM

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Cosmos thats it

rigid crescent Sep 5, 2019, 9:03 PM

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if it does you won't like it the same way people dont like the quest version lol

covert blade Sep 5, 2019, 9:03 PM

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Look at Sony's policy regarding user generated content and you'll know that VRChat has no future on PSVR

vestal pier Sep 5, 2019, 9:03 PM

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Unless it's purely for the chat partm

vocal shard Sep 5, 2019, 9:03 PM

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Vive focus is the stand alone one, Cosmos is the switch one

silk shadow Sep 5, 2019, 9:03 PM

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i think they will be mobile and pc vr chat

vestal pier Sep 5, 2019, 9:03 PM

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Switch one?

covert blade Sep 5, 2019, 9:03 PM

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Isn't the Quest basically mobile VRChat?

vocal shard Sep 5, 2019, 9:03 PM

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Mainly PC Headset that can be mobile as well

vestal pier Sep 5, 2019, 9:03 PM

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Yeah

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Oh cool

silk shadow Sep 5, 2019, 9:04 PM

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yeah it's shit

covert blade Sep 5, 2019, 9:04 PM

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What did you expect a mobile to be good for

vestal pier Sep 5, 2019, 9:04 PM

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Cosmos sounds cool

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Quest is great for what it is

silk shadow Sep 5, 2019, 9:04 PM

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i have a quest so i uses alvr and stream vrchat from my pc to the quest

vocal shard Sep 5, 2019, 9:04 PM

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Cosmos is interesting for sure ^^
Touch style controllers, inside out 6 camera tracking, 1440x1700 resolution

vestal pier Sep 5, 2019, 9:05 PM

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I haven't been keeping track of HTC

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Probably should

silk shadow Sep 5, 2019, 9:05 PM

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i keep track of every thing vr

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i gtg ttyl

vestal pier Sep 5, 2019, 9:06 PM

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Ok

light dust Sep 5, 2019, 9:17 PM

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so am i the only one getting force disconnected from worlds right now

sinful matrix Sep 5, 2019, 9:18 PM

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Nope

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I relogged in VRCHAT, my VRCHAT home did't alone and instead of that putting you in a random public server from VRCHAT

raven thicket Sep 5, 2019, 9:19 PM

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I do sometimes

vocal shard Sep 5, 2019, 9:20 PM

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Some are still having trouble with the server. But stability seems to be getting better for most as time goes on

cedar epoch Sep 5, 2019, 9:20 PM

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Yallo

slate verge Sep 5, 2019, 9:22 PM

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well if thats true then my region isn't fixed cuz i kept crsahing in vr mode

sinful matrix Sep 5, 2019, 9:25 PM

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The only thing i had in VRmode was that i had a audio problem. I did hear people in front of me when they are talking but also from far away LOL

molten gale Sep 5, 2019, 9:28 PM

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Doing my daily world update

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Adding another 2 pictures

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Also 300 hours playtime now

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Played another 13 today

slate verge Sep 5, 2019, 9:37 PM

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aquaThumbup

versed kelp Sep 5, 2019, 9:39 PM

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shit fuck yes mama

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O0000O0O0O

silk shadow Sep 5, 2019, 9:46 PM

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https://tenor.com/view/umm-confused-wtf-blinking-okay-gif-7513882

ruby burrow Sep 5, 2019, 9:51 PM

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I was the same when I first started on VRC. ^ ^;

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12 hour sessions weren't that rare.

covert blade Sep 5, 2019, 9:52 PM

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12 hour sessions? Waaa

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Seated right?

molten gale Sep 5, 2019, 9:52 PM

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Holidays end soon

ruby burrow Sep 5, 2019, 9:52 PM

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These days my sessions are mainly constrained by battery life. 4 hours for a casual short session, or 8 to 9 hours for a full one.

molten gale Sep 5, 2019, 9:52 PM

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So i wont have that much time

ruby burrow Sep 5, 2019, 9:52 PM

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Nah, I actually stood most of it. Or at least half of the time. ^ ^;

molten gale Sep 5, 2019, 9:53 PM

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I... lay down

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I was laying down for the full 13 hours

covert blade Sep 5, 2019, 9:53 PM

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I'm getting seriously exhausted after a few hours of standing around in VR

ruby burrow Sep 5, 2019, 9:53 PM

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I didn't like laying down before getting full body because it makes your avatar crumple up.

covert blade Sep 5, 2019, 9:53 PM

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Yup. Hate that as well

molten gale Sep 5, 2019, 9:54 PM

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It does unless you are in seated mode

covert blade Sep 5, 2019, 9:54 PM

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Then your avatar is standing while you aren't

ruby burrow Sep 5, 2019, 9:54 PM

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Now I have FBT I am guilty of seeking out comfy looking sofas, beds or ledges to lay down on more often. >_>

covert blade Sep 5, 2019, 9:54 PM

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I'm gonna have FBT Soon™

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I just, have no idea when it ships

molten gale Sep 5, 2019, 9:54 PM

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My next goal is a way better pc

ruby burrow Sep 5, 2019, 9:55 PM

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Well even in seated mode, you'd end up with your head on a tilt, and your arms in this ridiculous zombie pose.

molten gale Sep 5, 2019, 9:55 PM

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Which requires me to save up about 2-3k euros

ruby burrow Sep 5, 2019, 9:55 PM

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The one thing I try to avoid with FBT, is being a FBT floater.

covert blade Sep 5, 2019, 9:55 PM

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So basically the thing that almost everyone using FBT does

molten gale Sep 5, 2019, 9:55 PM

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Ah yes floating menacingly

ruby burrow Sep 5, 2019, 9:55 PM

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Yes. xD

covert blade Sep 5, 2019, 9:56 PM

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Because they're lazy and sit but want to be at eye level with the person they're talking

ruby burrow Sep 5, 2019, 9:56 PM

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It's not very immersive.

molten gale Sep 5, 2019, 9:56 PM

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Also my head isnt tilted when im laying down

haughty gazelle Sep 5, 2019, 9:56 PM

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Jesus Christ if they raised $10m this game better start feeling less like it was written by a 13 year old Minecraft modder

molten gale Sep 5, 2019, 9:56 PM

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I just have my arms crossed to avoid the zombie pose

ruby burrow Sep 5, 2019, 9:56 PM

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So until I add a deployable flying carpet or cloud particles to my avatar, I'll sooner lay on the ground itself or seek out a low wall to perch on.

molten gale Sep 5, 2019, 9:57 PM

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Says someone that has no clue how to work with user generated content

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Can people stop complaining about the game having issues? Its early access.

covert blade Sep 5, 2019, 9:57 PM

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And free

rigid crescent Sep 5, 2019, 9:57 PM

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and its way ahead of schedule lol

molten gale Sep 5, 2019, 9:57 PM

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That too

haughty gazelle Sep 5, 2019, 9:58 PM

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"Says someone that has no clue how to work with user generated content"

rigid crescent Sep 5, 2019, 9:58 PM

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without the boom they'd be in the stone age still

molten gale Sep 5, 2019, 9:58 PM

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Cant wait for personal bios and stuff like that

haughty gazelle Sep 5, 2019, 9:58 PM

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A little assumptive

molten gale Sep 5, 2019, 9:58 PM

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Its not because you wouldnt complain if you did

covert blade Sep 5, 2019, 9:58 PM

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Says the one making assumptions of what the work of a 13 year old Minecraft Modder would look like

ruby burrow Sep 5, 2019, 9:58 PM

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To be honest, $10m isn't really that much in terms of game development, especially for an active and ongoing live service.

molten gale Sep 5, 2019, 9:59 PM

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Yeah

haughty gazelle Sep 5, 2019, 9:59 PM

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User generated content doesn't make the interface run like crap

molten gale Sep 5, 2019, 9:59 PM

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Vrchat has only a small team

covert blade Sep 5, 2019, 9:59 PM

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You mean the friends list?

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Because that's really the only interface part that isn't working as neat as I would like it to

molten gale Sep 5, 2019, 10:00 PM

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They should add a "Update Friends list" button

covert blade Sep 5, 2019, 10:00 PM

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Force update. Would love it

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Right now I basically just use the website to check out who's on

molten gale Sep 5, 2019, 10:00 PM

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Nono sometimes my favorited avatars and uploaded ones disappear too

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But thats really rare

rigid crescent Sep 5, 2019, 10:01 PM

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thatd probably cause so many issues

ruby burrow Sep 5, 2019, 10:01 PM

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There's plenty of aspects of VRC that are lacking, and it's obviously fair to say no team is perfect, but I feel people do considerably underestimate the challenges involved.

rigid crescent Sep 5, 2019, 10:01 PM

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constantly pinging the server

molten gale Sep 5, 2019, 10:01 PM

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Yeah

haughty gazelle Sep 5, 2019, 10:01 PM

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On that topic why doesn't it have the ability to notify the client of changes in who's online? You can write something to handle that in JavaScript if you wanted to

molten gale Sep 5, 2019, 10:01 PM

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Gotta consider that many people constantly check friends lists

covert blade Sep 5, 2019, 10:01 PM

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Still, every other game would have real time updating friends lists

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I mean imagine MMORPG's but at the update rate of VR Chat

rigid crescent Sep 5, 2019, 10:01 PM

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because it'd be constantly pinging the server

molten gale Sep 5, 2019, 10:02 PM

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In many games its rather easy but vrchat also has to load an avatar preview image, a status and world information

umbral reef Sep 5, 2019, 10:02 PM

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Because getting a thousand notifications from people joining and leaving is dumb. There is a reason modern day platforms dont use that anymore

haughty gazelle Sep 5, 2019, 10:02 PM

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Not if you use a simple socket based system

umbral reef Sep 5, 2019, 10:02 PM

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That means it has to be socket based. What for plenty of things it isnt yet 👏

ruby burrow Sep 5, 2019, 10:02 PM

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I'm sure a friends update button could include a max ping rate.

molten gale Sep 5, 2019, 10:02 PM

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Vrchat has to load more info per friend than a regular game

ruby burrow Sep 5, 2019, 10:03 PM

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So that any more clicks after the first are ignored or held off for a few seconds.

rigid crescent Sep 5, 2019, 10:03 PM

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it does?

tidal aspen Sep 5, 2019, 10:03 PM

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not really if it's just a notice about someone coming online

rigid crescent Sep 5, 2019, 10:03 PM

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location, profile picture....what else?

covert blade Sep 5, 2019, 10:03 PM

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The website updates pretty much at real time. Makes me curious as to why the game can't do that

molten gale Sep 5, 2019, 10:03 PM

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Well the profile pic is the issue

ruby burrow Sep 5, 2019, 10:03 PM

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But the devs have talked about the gradual move to more socket based systems.

molten gale Sep 5, 2019, 10:04 PM

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In most games it wont change often but in vrchat people change avatar a lot

umbral reef Sep 5, 2019, 10:04 PM

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@covert blade User count prob

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Barely anyone uses the website and the website does not always display all online friends even btw

tidal aspen Sep 5, 2019, 10:04 PM

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profile picture is already uploaded to the servers that isn't really an issue

molten gale Sep 5, 2019, 10:04 PM

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Honestly I shouldnt complain, my friends list updates perfectly fine

haughty gazelle Sep 5, 2019, 10:04 PM

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You literally have to reference an image that is already generated

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It shouldn't have to take any time at all

spark jackal Sep 5, 2019, 10:05 PM

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Are the servers back up?

molten gale Sep 5, 2019, 10:05 PM

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Usually it says my friends are in the world before they loaded in sooo

rigid crescent Sep 5, 2019, 10:05 PM

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because they technically are

molten gale Sep 5, 2019, 10:05 PM

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Yeah

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I cant complain

tidal aspen Sep 5, 2019, 10:05 PM

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with the investment though they'll hire more people and hopefully they can upgrade their infrastructure

molten gale Sep 5, 2019, 10:05 PM

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It works perfectly fine for me

rigid crescent Sep 5, 2019, 10:06 PM

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i mean the jobs are up

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have been for a bit now

covert blade Sep 5, 2019, 10:06 PM

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There was that one time I wanted to join someone and it kept saying they're in the same world even though they weren't

molten gale Sep 5, 2019, 10:07 PM

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I mean, when they crash or change world

covert blade Sep 5, 2019, 10:07 PM

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Then it'll still say they're in that world even though they left

molten gale Sep 5, 2019, 10:07 PM

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I usually have that when my friend crashes

covert blade Sep 5, 2019, 10:07 PM

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In that case, the list of users in the current instance knows more than the friends list

molten gale Sep 5, 2019, 10:07 PM

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Crashes are way more frequent recently

covert blade Sep 5, 2019, 10:07 PM

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Yeah I've felt that

haughty gazelle Sep 5, 2019, 10:07 PM

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I haven't actually

covert blade Sep 5, 2019, 10:07 PM

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Sometimes it just crashes when I open the worlds menu

molten gale Sep 5, 2019, 10:08 PM

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Changing worlds and sometimes while in the world

covert blade Sep 5, 2019, 10:08 PM

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And changing worlds is high risk of crashing

haughty gazelle Sep 5, 2019, 10:08 PM

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But the entire game feels cheap

molten gale Sep 5, 2019, 10:08 PM

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I crashed while having my best murder run

covert blade Sep 5, 2019, 10:08 PM

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aww

molten gale Sep 5, 2019, 10:08 PM

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Its free and made by a small group

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and early access

covert blade Sep 5, 2019, 10:08 PM

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I'm mostly fine when I'm already loaded in thankfully

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So for as long as I don't change worlds or open the worlds menu, the game will be just fine

haughty gazelle Sep 5, 2019, 10:09 PM

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I was saying with the budget they just got, it better stop feeling cheap now instead of wasting time on new stuff

molten gale Sep 5, 2019, 10:09 PM

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The game is still undet development

covert blade Sep 5, 2019, 10:09 PM

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Patience is a virtue FaultyFeline

molten gale Sep 5, 2019, 10:09 PM

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UI polishing seems to be in the todo list

tidal aspen Sep 5, 2019, 10:09 PM

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things have been a bit better compared to a few months ago

molten gale Sep 5, 2019, 10:09 PM

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Definetely

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Things finally load

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The load times are so much better now its great

covert blade Sep 5, 2019, 10:10 PM

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I'm pretty sure the Dev Team knows how they'll use their budget, but because the game is in active development with frequent changes it's not too surprising that it is also a lil unstable

molten gale Sep 5, 2019, 10:10 PM

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^^^

haughty gazelle Sep 5, 2019, 10:10 PM

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It's a unity game

covert blade Sep 5, 2019, 10:10 PM

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So?

haughty gazelle Sep 5, 2019, 10:11 PM

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They don't even have to write an engine lol

covert blade Sep 5, 2019, 10:11 PM

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So?

molten gale Sep 5, 2019, 10:11 PM

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So?

safe night Sep 5, 2019, 10:11 PM

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anyone on oculus know how to turn off emotes? some avatars emote when you move your fingers and want to turn that off

covert blade Sep 5, 2019, 10:11 PM

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Making a game is apparently effortless or what?

ruby burrow Sep 5, 2019, 10:11 PM

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I have been told by a source, that there are significant changes to core systems in the works.

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Throwing old certain old stuff entirely, to use something new.

haughty gazelle Sep 5, 2019, 10:11 PM

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Thank goodness

covert blade Sep 5, 2019, 10:11 PM

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@safe night You mean like custom gestures or what?

safe night Sep 5, 2019, 10:11 PM

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Yeah

molten gale Sep 5, 2019, 10:11 PM

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You cant

covert blade Sep 5, 2019, 10:12 PM

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Gestures are always bound to the avatar

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You cannot disable them on your own

umbral reef Sep 5, 2019, 10:12 PM

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'A start up not writing there own VR eninge!? What are they? Stupid?'

safe night Sep 5, 2019, 10:12 PM

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Damn that's a shame

molten gale Sep 5, 2019, 10:12 PM

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Some avatars are not made for vr

covert blade Sep 5, 2019, 10:12 PM

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It's a social VR game what do you expect?

molten gale Sep 5, 2019, 10:12 PM

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but desktop instead

covert blade Sep 5, 2019, 10:12 PM

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My minecraft dirt block

stiff sparrow Sep 5, 2019, 10:12 PM

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some avatars are not made

safe night Sep 5, 2019, 10:13 PM

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My first VRChat session was yesterday, I couldn't believe the number of people in "VR"Chat without vr headsets (didn't know it was a thing tbh)

molten gale Sep 5, 2019, 10:13 PM

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I generally use desktop to test my world

covert blade Sep 5, 2019, 10:13 PM

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The number of players would be significantly less without the desktop support and seeing as that VRChat is the reason to buy VR to begin with, it's also great for companies like HTC to sell their headsets

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You go into VRChat as a desktop user and see what VR users can do and you'll want to be able to do that too

molten gale Sep 5, 2019, 10:14 PM

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Yeah

ruby burrow Sep 5, 2019, 10:14 PM

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It depends on which instance and friends you hang with really.

molten gale Sep 5, 2019, 10:14 PM

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And vr users then notice fbt and want that too

covert blade Sep 5, 2019, 10:14 PM

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Honestly watching people with FBT is addicting

molten gale Sep 5, 2019, 10:15 PM

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Yeah it looks quite nice

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But with a rift s fbt isnt possible

ruby burrow Sep 5, 2019, 10:15 PM

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Go to the most active publics and you'll get 50 to 70% desktop. But most of the instances I spend time in are 50% FBT, 45% VR, and 5% desktop players.

covert blade Sep 5, 2019, 10:16 PM

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Aaaand soon I'll have it myself, just dunno when it ships

molten gale Sep 5, 2019, 10:16 PM

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About 60% of my friends have vr and about 25% of the vr users have ftb in my friends list

ruby burrow Sep 5, 2019, 10:16 PM

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And yeah, VR-Chat including desktop support has been amazing for giving people an introduction and glimpse into VR that they simply wouldn't have had otherwise.

molten gale Sep 5, 2019, 10:16 PM

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Yeah

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I ony got vr because vrchat

ivory axle Sep 5, 2019, 10:17 PM

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Same

tidal aspen Sep 5, 2019, 10:17 PM

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only friending VR users, I don't need to see any stiff arms in here 😤 😤 😤

tender ermine Sep 5, 2019, 10:17 PM

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not same

ivory axle Sep 5, 2019, 10:17 PM

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Lmfao

tender ermine Sep 5, 2019, 10:18 PM

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I got VR cuz i wanted to play Beat Saber, then realized it was boring after a few hours

ruby burrow Sep 5, 2019, 10:18 PM

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I went to visit a Quest compatible public world just this week, and it was pretty fun when someone eventually noticed my FBT, and how most people there had no idea such a thing existed.

molten gale Sep 5, 2019, 10:18 PM

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I mean sure vr minecraft and beatsaber and such are fun, but that alone isnt worth it

tidal aspen Sep 5, 2019, 10:18 PM

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did you get any beatsaber mods? custom songs completely change the game

covert blade Sep 5, 2019, 10:19 PM

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Speaking of VR Minecraft, I should probably check that out as well

molten gale Sep 5, 2019, 10:19 PM

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Yeah but vrchat is just way more fun

covert blade Sep 5, 2019, 10:19 PM

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It'll probably go wrong in the most glorious way imaginable

molten gale Sep 5, 2019, 10:19 PM

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Currently also unable to play beatsaber because I cant stand

tidal aspen Sep 5, 2019, 10:19 PM

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and yeah playing VRchat pretty much made it worth for the ammount of playtime vs cost

covert blade Sep 5, 2019, 10:19 PM

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I'm still at a cute 98 hours of playtime so it wasn't worth yet

ruby burrow Sep 5, 2019, 10:19 PM

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People started doing the default emote dance, and one of the Quest users said something along the lines of, "Oh yeah, well can you do this?" and started doing a more complex custom dance emote.

molten gale Sep 5, 2019, 10:19 PM

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Im at 300 now

ivory axle Sep 5, 2019, 10:20 PM

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610 feelsbad

ruby burrow Sep 5, 2019, 10:20 PM

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So I decided to try and copy it physically.

molten gale Sep 5, 2019, 10:20 PM

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Lmao

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Im rapidly increasing my vrchat hours tho

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Im still waiting for my personal avatar to be finished

ruby burrow Sep 5, 2019, 10:20 PM

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At which point a pair were like, "Oh damn, you have the same dance?"
"No dude, that wasn't the same, it's slightly different."

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etc

molten gale Sep 5, 2019, 10:21 PM

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Thats way more wholesome than what you see from visitors in like a public room of rain for example

ivory axle Sep 5, 2019, 10:21 PM

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Just screechin

molten gale Sep 5, 2019, 10:22 PM

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That and murder are 2 worlds I frequent when alone and honestly, interacting with visitors and new users there is mostly painful

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Which really sucks honestly

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Its also the huge rank difference that makes it difficult

covert blade Sep 5, 2019, 10:25 PM

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I've actually had some luck with a visitor today who was actually fun to hang around with. Sometimes, ya get lucky. Mostly not though

molten gale Sep 5, 2019, 10:25 PM

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Known and trusted users usually hang out in their groups in front of mirrors, often listening to music while most visitors are alone, in most cases dont get the mirror thing and just get the hang of the game and terms

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I had a few luckies with visitors and new users too

covert blade Sep 5, 2019, 10:26 PM

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I dont get the mirror thing at all

pine vine Sep 5, 2019, 10:26 PM

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Most visitors either have that weird ginger default skin, or are russian. ~~Or both~~

molten gale Sep 5, 2019, 10:26 PM

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Its so easy to talk to others and do gestures in front of a mirror

safe night Sep 5, 2019, 10:26 PM

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I had a ton of fun in the public worlds last night

molten gale Sep 5, 2019, 10:27 PM

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Because you can see what you do and all of your friends

covert blade Sep 5, 2019, 10:27 PM

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Fixed a crash that would occur often upon world change or avatar loading

molten gale Sep 5, 2019, 10:27 PM

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Yes!

covert blade Sep 5, 2019, 10:27 PM

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I don't have enough friends for that to matter really

safe night Sep 5, 2019, 10:27 PM

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A lot of weird people but apparently I’m a normie

covert blade Sep 5, 2019, 10:27 PM

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And for that one avatar with a few facial expressions I know exactly which gesture does what

molten gale Sep 5, 2019, 10:27 PM

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Most of my fun in publics originates from joining random groups of known and trusted users

floral aspen Sep 5, 2019, 10:27 PM

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I crashed two nights ago right after stepping through a portal so hopefully this is a fix for that

molten gale Sep 5, 2019, 10:28 PM

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Only one crash?

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I crashed like 7 times today

floral aspen Sep 5, 2019, 10:28 PM

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Well, yeah since I quit playing after I crashed lol

covert blade Sep 5, 2019, 10:28 PM

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I had fun with a random visitor trying to make a court case and someone else was messing with his hammer and it showed up on one of the cameras but he had no idea where that was

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Sometimes I get lucky, sometimes the instance just sucks

molten gale Sep 5, 2019, 10:29 PM

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Yeah

covert blade Sep 5, 2019, 10:29 PM

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Same with Murder. Sometimes I get amazing rounds and some really good people in there and other times I join and I want to immediately leave again

molten gale Sep 5, 2019, 10:29 PM

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I really want to talk to the newer folks more but its so hard

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Same mason

covert blade Sep 5, 2019, 10:30 PM

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I mean if they have a mic then that's a lil easier. I think I'm friends with a few visitors

molten gale Sep 5, 2019, 10:30 PM

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I rember the first 2 digits and do the same

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Today I was in a black cat with the following number: *69419

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Like. So close to perfection.

covert blade Sep 5, 2019, 10:31 PM

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Black Cat: Please use vrcPerfExcellent or vrcPerfGood avatars. Also be nice to Quest users.
Me: vrcPerfPoor non-quest compatible avatar

molten gale Sep 5, 2019, 10:31 PM

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Yeah

covert blade Sep 5, 2019, 10:32 PM

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The sad thing is that I barely have any quest compatible avatars at all.

molten gale Sep 5, 2019, 10:32 PM

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I dont have good performance avatars

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Because none of them look fitting for me

covert blade Sep 5, 2019, 10:32 PM

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I can run around as a Stormtrooper which is rated vrcPerfGood (Unarmed) and vrcPerfMedium for the armed versions but they aren't quest compatible

tropic spoke Sep 5, 2019, 10:32 PM

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me: vrcPerfVeryPoor
also me: why is my cpu at 100%
also also me: must be them darn visitors

molten gale Sep 5, 2019, 10:32 PM

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The meme stormtrooper is quest compatible

covert blade Sep 5, 2019, 10:32 PM

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I dont have that one

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That one aint public. Would have to clone it from someone

molten gale Sep 5, 2019, 10:33 PM

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It somehow is on very poor but also for quest

covert blade Sep 5, 2019, 10:33 PM

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I do have two Kings Raid avatars that are vrcPerfGood and Quest compatible

tropic spoke Sep 5, 2019, 10:33 PM

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how are you putting markers on avatars when the sdk accounts for inactive objects and the bounding box max size is 6 meters?

molten gale Sep 5, 2019, 10:33 PM

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Most of mine are vrcPerfVeryPoor but my normal hangout avatar is vrcPerfPoor

covert blade Sep 5, 2019, 10:33 PM

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So in case I run into a friend using Quest I can use these so they can see something at least

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But most of the worlds I've been to aren't even quest compatible to begin with

safe night Sep 5, 2019, 10:34 PM

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So I’m really new but is there a way to search for avatars?

molten gale Sep 5, 2019, 10:34 PM

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Its basically impossible to fit those criteria

covert blade Sep 5, 2019, 10:34 PM

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You can only search for avatar worlds

molten gale Sep 5, 2019, 10:34 PM

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Without making it look crappy anyways

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Most good or exellent perf avatars dont look good imo

covert blade Sep 5, 2019, 10:36 PM

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Stormtrooper looks decent and the Kings Raid avatars are actually pretty good from what I could tell.

tropic spoke Sep 5, 2019, 10:36 PM

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it would be a lot easier if instead of nuking you for a single dynamic bone it averaged your avatar's performance

molten gale Sep 5, 2019, 10:36 PM

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Yeah those are excluded

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But they are also not very original

covert blade Sep 5, 2019, 10:36 PM

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¯_(ツ)_/¯

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The alternatives are mostly vrcPerfPoor to vrcPerfVeryPoor avatars overloaded with dynamic bones

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Or too many material slots

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*An excessive amount of material slots

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So I'm pretty happy that I managed to settle for the current selection of avatars that I have right now

placid umbra Sep 5, 2019, 10:38 PM

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5k polycount think

covert blade Sep 5, 2019, 10:38 PM

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....you?

umbral reef Sep 5, 2019, 10:38 PM

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Now the big question. How many bones and materials 👀

molten gale Sep 5, 2019, 10:38 PM

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Well most communities have there templates and such

covert blade Sep 5, 2019, 10:38 PM

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Polys aren't even the main issue a lot of the times. Like, polys may be fine but 70+ material slots or so

molten gale Sep 5, 2019, 10:39 PM

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And most people just add on to to those

cold talon Sep 5, 2019, 10:39 PM

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Aev: 285 bones, not dynamic, just raw pure bones

tidal aspen Sep 5, 2019, 10:39 PM

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polys still matter

placid umbra Sep 5, 2019, 10:39 PM

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Decimating an avatar is difficult to do correctly, but having 70 materials is pretty inexcusable

pine bluff Sep 5, 2019, 10:40 PM

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Hey so what happened to VR chat on the go??? It crashes every time i open it

tidal aspen Sep 5, 2019, 10:40 PM

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if everyone was running around with 75k polys in a world that was 500k polys it adds up

molten gale Sep 5, 2019, 10:40 PM

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Ive never seen 70 materials

graceful pewter Sep 5, 2019, 10:40 PM

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it was just a stopgap to test the quest build

molten gale Sep 5, 2019, 10:40 PM

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The highes ive ever seen is 43

covert blade Sep 5, 2019, 10:40 PM

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I think one of the Yandere avatars I've seen had an excessive amount of material slots

molten gale Sep 5, 2019, 10:40 PM

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And that was a messy avatar

covert blade Sep 5, 2019, 10:40 PM

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Same with one of the Touhou ones

safe night Sep 5, 2019, 10:40 PM

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Another question, is it only possible to “save” 16 avatars or are there other ways to save avatars?

placid umbra Sep 5, 2019, 10:40 PM

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VRChat on Go is not supported past the launch of VRChat on Quest

cold talon Sep 5, 2019, 10:41 PM

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~~Vietnam~~ materials flashback

covert blade Sep 5, 2019, 10:41 PM

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@safe night Save the avatar worlds or upload your own stuff

pine bluff Sep 5, 2019, 10:41 PM

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My friend had the quest and we played it together

graceful pewter Sep 5, 2019, 10:41 PM

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you could do an entire freaking world with 43 materials

umbral reef Sep 5, 2019, 10:41 PM

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@pine bluff VRchat isnt supported on the Oculus Go. There was a temporary build but that was ONLY a test build untill the quest came out.

vocal shard Sep 5, 2019, 10:41 PM

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yeet

pine bluff Sep 5, 2019, 10:41 PM

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I wish they made an official thing for the go. it was my only way of playing VR chat

safe night Sep 5, 2019, 10:41 PM

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@covert blade Thanks! VRChat isn’t exactly the most newbie friendly

molten gale Sep 5, 2019, 10:41 PM

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Yeah it really isnt

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Most visitors dont know about safety and such

graceful pewter Sep 5, 2019, 10:42 PM

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well it's not like second life where you're expected to glue a bunch of parts together in engine

molten gale Sep 5, 2019, 10:42 PM

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I should sleep soon

pine bluff Sep 5, 2019, 10:42 PM

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It ran really good on the oculus go. the only thing i didnt like was the thing saying do not share or stream

tidal aspen Sep 5, 2019, 10:42 PM

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I've had worlds that were more performant then a few avatars I've seen in publics

pine bluff Sep 5, 2019, 10:43 PM

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but that was there for good reasons so i cant really complain lol

graceful pewter Sep 5, 2019, 10:43 PM

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and that world is an optimized mess second life as there's basically zero enforcement for making optimal content

pine bluff Sep 5, 2019, 10:43 PM

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Well im going to go back to playing videogames and crying now

placid umbra Sep 5, 2019, 10:43 PM

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@umbral reef

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molten gale Sep 5, 2019, 10:44 PM

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That pfp fits perfectly

pastel galleon Sep 5, 2019, 10:44 PM

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Nice

umbral reef Sep 5, 2019, 10:44 PM

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No sharing nsfw things... Owmy thats pretty

covert blade Sep 5, 2019, 10:44 PM

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@placid umbra https://i.imgur.com/NjGipVv.jpg

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This is something that I've spotted a while back. Took me a while to find that screenshot again

molten gale Sep 5, 2019, 10:44 PM

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Dont ping the devs my dude

indigo fern Sep 5, 2019, 10:44 PM

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thats the debug avatar

placid umbra Sep 5, 2019, 10:45 PM

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I'm in the channel, it's fine

covert blade Sep 5, 2019, 10:45 PM

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Debug avatar?

molten gale Sep 5, 2019, 10:45 PM

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Also that screenshot is way too low quality

indigo fern Sep 5, 2019, 10:45 PM

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by scruffy

covert blade Sep 5, 2019, 10:45 PM

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No it's not

graceful pewter Sep 5, 2019, 10:45 PM

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why were there debug Avatar be a potato gremlin

covert blade Sep 5, 2019, 10:45 PM

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That's 1920x1017

placid umbra Sep 5, 2019, 10:45 PM

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It's a utility avatar with a bunch of disabled tools, maybe one of the few reasonable times for the stats to be high

molten gale Sep 5, 2019, 10:46 PM

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Its low quality when I view it tf

covert blade Sep 5, 2019, 10:46 PM

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Open it in fullscreen ya dummy 👀

pastel galleon Sep 5, 2019, 10:46 PM

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Low quality on mobile

indigo fern Sep 5, 2019, 10:46 PM

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open it in your browser then

pastel galleon Sep 5, 2019, 10:46 PM

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Cause imgur

molten gale Sep 5, 2019, 10:46 PM

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Great

covert blade Sep 5, 2019, 10:46 PM

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There's a "open in browser" button

molten gale Sep 5, 2019, 10:46 PM

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Yeah ik but imgur

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Wont do high quality on mobile

covert blade Sep 5, 2019, 10:47 PM

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Are we starting this again? 👀

molten gale Sep 5, 2019, 10:47 PM

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I used discord for 3 years, i know how stuff works

covert blade Sep 5, 2019, 10:47 PM

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Oh yeah ya can't even open the image on discord itself because it doesn't preview

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The frick is this

molten gale Sep 5, 2019, 10:48 PM

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I should really sleep so I can do 16 hours of vrchat tomorro

covert blade Sep 5, 2019, 10:48 PM

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I should probably consider using a more mobile friendly image host

molten gale Sep 5, 2019, 10:49 PM

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16 hours wont be as easy as the 13 i managed today

covert blade Sep 5, 2019, 10:49 PM

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The mobile quality is literal garbage even though the screenshot is uploaded in original quality

molten gale Sep 5, 2019, 10:49 PM

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Yea

covert blade Sep 5, 2019, 10:49 PM

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Last time we had an entire discussion about my cropping being terrible

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It's not like I use ShareX to instantly take & upload screenshots of whatever part of my screen I want to take a screenshot of

inner cape Sep 5, 2019, 10:50 PM

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discord is a good image host vrcAevSip

covert blade Sep 5, 2019, 10:50 PM

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Too bad I can't directly upload images in this channel

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It's in #vrchat-pictures now

molten gale Sep 5, 2019, 10:51 PM

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I use gyazo

graceful pewter Sep 5, 2019, 10:51 PM

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me too

molten gale Sep 5, 2019, 10:51 PM

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Also 102k poly isnt the worst

covert blade Sep 5, 2019, 10:51 PM

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102k for that thing that's barely anything

inner cape Sep 5, 2019, 10:52 PM

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I have a personal server to keep all sorts of random things I need to save, including pictures

molten gale Sep 5, 2019, 10:52 PM

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I have one with 162k

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Same

covert blade Sep 5, 2019, 10:52 PM

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Like, just compare the poly count to the avatar

molten gale Sep 5, 2019, 10:52 PM

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yeah true

covert blade Sep 5, 2019, 10:52 PM

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This avatar has to little on it, it barely even exists

graceful pewter Sep 5, 2019, 10:52 PM

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well it's still complete and utter Overkill 102k

molten gale Sep 5, 2019, 10:52 PM

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Mine is called "Pacis emoji dump"

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