But there's also a lot of people I meet regularly that I get along with great and we've just never added eachother
#vrchat-general-2
rigid crescent
rough pulsar
I should clean up my list, but that requires more effort than I'm willing to put in. π
rigid crescent
it's a bit faster with an external ui
polar jasper
Iβve actually wanted to do some research into the whole social list. How many is online, how often are they online, what instance type, how often they are in these instances etc.
rough pulsar
Same, along with the network itself. Are there 'hub' users who have a lot of friends but those friends aren't friends with each other? How do groups cluster together, etc etc.
polar jasper
Decline all
There are ways you can decline all those 400, but not all of them are friendly on the API
glad bolt
Tfw a lot of the people I used to interact with don't go to public lobbies anymore and it's always private and never Friends+. ;-;
My mentality is when it's private, I don't prod with an invite because I don't wanna bug people.
covert blade
The worst thing they can do is decline it
Btw what actually happens when you send an invite and they accept? Do you automatically load into the instance or do you have to confirm that you want to join now?
glad bolt
You get a notification on your end that they've invited you there. 
covert blade
Ah
inner cape
publics foreva
fading flower
isnt there a way to track rank between a steam account and a vrchat account? like in the ooooh i dont want to be a low rank when i make my account so i will link them to maintain it?
covert blade
I'm not even sure if your steam account can rank up tbh
inner cape
e-experts?
slate verge
covert blade
That's a nice shrug
slate verge
i wanted to be always orange, but vrc says No f u. Decided to give me purple.
glad bolt
Oof
covert blade
Not gonna lie, I kinda liked blue
slate verge
blue was my first favorite
covert blade
I'd love if User and New User would swap colors but that'd probably confuse people
glad bolt
Imagine if you could change your colour. That was a thing in a similar community game called PlayStation Home.
covert blade
That'd be much better than having it based on your rank
glad bolt
Like, your trust rank would turn into an icon beside your name
inner cape
I always stay green anyway, for the old nameplates o7
covert blade
I think right now the trust rank is also displayed below your name when you highlight a player
glad bolt
Yeah
covert blade
So no need to add anything else really
Customizable name plate colors and if you really wanna know it, you can still look it up
glad bolt
Right. Or it can be optional for Visitors/New Users to view. It's disabled by default, but can be enabled any time.
covert blade
Ranks are meaningless
inner cape
thats a good idea, make a canny bout it
covert blade
You mean, putting effort into something?
glad bolt
Enabling more freedom of customisation, my friend
glossy wharf
Ghosto is gae
inner cape
can you stop please
glossy wharf
No smile
fading flower
wdym
my guy friend man is trusted steam user
soooo anyone else know if its possible to combine ranks from a steam acc into a vrc acc?
ruby needle
yes you can link a steam account to a vrchat account
vestal pier
Does that merge ranks though, FPaul.
ruby needle
yes
vestal pier
Dope!
covert blade
Would be weird if it didn't since friends you've added contribute to the rank in a way
glad bolt
Okay, I posted in the Canny. Would be super happy if that gets implemented one day, but I won't be heartbroken if it doesn't. 
glad bolt
Are links allowed in this chat?
glad bolt
I dunno, I'm gonna poof that in case not.
Okay, back to drawing more VRC art. Chat later.
inner cape
o7
glad bolt
π
Here it is, then. https://vrchat.canny.io/feature-requests/p/customizable-nameplate-colour
covert blade
yeeeyyy
Oh nice you can sign in via google
Lazy options, perfect for someone like me
Also upvoted it, comment coming soon
vocal shard
hi π
slate verge
hi
covert blade
That moment when you go to an avatar world to see an avatar with the same face and hair as the avatar from another world.... and both are doing commissions
slate verge
LOL that is awkward
covert blade
Then again I have no knowledge about avatar making so I might be getting all the wrong ideas now
slate verge
it could be that the model you see is public and people can just do whatever they want
covert blade
https://imgur.com/a/AHfQUus Like, really
Those are from two different authors in two different worlds
I might have a really bad memory, but I do recognize such reuse
slate verge
yeah the based model is probably from elsewhere, just recolored
covert blade
I dunno it's just, weird
snow wadi
This is why I gave up on MMD, there's almost no difference between models.
covert blade
And for some random coincidence both are trans flag colored too
snow wadi
I wonder if it's the same person on two accounts..
But that would make no sense, why make 2 looking almost the same?
slate verge
covert blade
I mean the clothing is vastly different, also Subcoms avatars are watermarked, Diviy's ones aren't
Probably what you said: Same base model
Since I have no clue about avatar making it just looks weird to me when I see something that looks so similar in a different world
slate verge
yeah it happens with mmd models
covert blade
https://i.imgur.com/22QcJTX.jpg I mean it's really the same with these too
I've seen a lot of versions of that mini neko
inner cape
kitbashing from mmd parts has been a pretty common commission work
also never go to subcom
π€’
covert blade
Huh. Is it that bad?
snow wadi
Actually if you see custom nekos its because some won the asset from a giveaway on the server.
slate verge
subcom used to have good avatars, but its all gone now
snow wadi
Actually she's bringing them back gradually.
slate verge
oh
snow wadi
She's actually making like, HD versions if you will.
inner cape
it's not that the avatars are of low quality, it's just that the creator literally sells mmd models as his own
proud lance
Also they like to bash on other ppl stuff quite alot from what I've heard
inner cape
I dont know if they still do or not, but they've done some scummy things anyway
covert blade
My game crashed when I opened the worlds menu
inner cape
ππΏ
snow wadi
Sounds like you chugged your memory xD
Another thing, subcom started making bases from scratch.
indigo fern
A rough start, but a start nonetheless
I'm glad they're finally modeling their own things, but it's all for the money, not for the actual artistry
inner cape
path to redemption
indigo fern
The first 3 they made and are selling are kinda practice model tier
It was still a new thing to look at that's not a wolfboy, so that was neat π
snow wadi
I'm glad my avatars are totally different and I'm happy with them.
indigo fern
unique π¦
rough flax
vocal shard
oof
tidal frigate
can you use thinks or add assets to something that you hold in your hand in desktop mode?
distant crater
Don't even know
desert stratus
mhm, just bind them to a gesture
tidal frigate
because you just can do nothing whit them in desktop mode exept for holding in hand
that looks strange XD
distant crater
Oof
desert stratus
you could always do some animation / state fuckery to reposition your hhands during gestures
say if you wanted to actually hold your hand up or do a pose if you held a gun
it's probably only a little bit shitty to set up
distant crater
True
tidal frigate
at some avatars the thing in the hand just disapears while the emote
distant crater
Reee
tidal frigate
XD
tidal frigate
D:
spiral canopy
Guys, how much time does it have to pass before my friend is able to upload models?
distant crater
Don't know sorry
desert stratus
inhale
its not a 100% time based system, so dont try to idle or AFK in-game. nobody 100% knows how the trust system works, but the general idea is that the more you genuinely play and enjoy the game (making friends, talk with people, explore worlds, and above all be social), you will gain the ability to upload content eventually, maybe around the same time you achive the rank "new user"
@spiral canopy
distant crater
Ooof
glad bolt
Apparently some friends have said being in public worlds may help.
polar jasper
Instance type won't matter too much. I've got a account that hasn't been to any public that got upload rights (created after the new system)
glad bolt
Hm, must've been the prior system then, not sure.
Either way, that shouldn't impede enjoyment of the platform, it goes when it goes.
inner cape
it doesnt matter where you go as long as you get friends added
publics is just a go to place for new players, easier to find acquaintances, i doubt it gives you any numerical advantage
glad bolt
Β―_(γ)_/Β―
spiral canopy
And by the way, i have been vote kicked from a server because (and they said it themselves): "He said he was going to mute us". Sorry if questions dont go here, but i'm just wondering what has to happen for me to be allowed back in that server.
glad bolt
If you've been kicked from a world, there's an hour long timeout until you can join that instance again.
spiral canopy
Oh fine
brazen kite
anyone want to play
spiral canopy
Thank you, but it's not nice that people can abuse the system like this... :S
glad bolt
You're welcome. I understand your frustrations with that. Been very selective of what worlds I join lately.
elfin bramble
I'm not sure where to ask about this so i'll do it here. I'm trying to remove a few avatars I have saved, but when I click unfavorite>close menu - and check again they're all still there. Any idea how to remove them if this is happening...? sorry for posting here.
willow ravine
@elfin bramble try to expand or collapse the tab. i know they used to get stuck, and that might still happen now
but so far i havent had that issue for a while
as long as you clicked "unfavorite" it will eventually disappear
river zinc
Hi im not sure if this topic or issue has been addressed yet but this issue has happened to me and many other people starting from Thursday were people are getting "kicked" and its saying something about more then half the people voted to kick from the world and then you have an hour wait time to rejoin it. Me and a few others its been happening to have confirmed that it wasn't an actual kick that happened so im assuming its someone personally targeting people . I'm just curious if anyone has any insight on this is all.
(so sorry if this is not the correct channel for this but here's a clip with the message I received after it happen)
https://clips.twitch.tv/SuspiciousMoralStinkbugBloodTrail
worthy oracle
^ i wanna elaborate on this
there is a modded client module called "force kick" that is going around, and it is coded to essentially abuse the vote to kick system and spams a lot of votes to the server, which it in turn interprets as the lobby voting to kick someone
river zinc
ahh
worthy oracle
it is spreading massively bc the guy who made it has sent it to a LOT of vrchat discord servers
river zinc
ok I was drinking last night but now that I read what you wrote i remember my room mate mentioning something like that.
worthy oracle
i hope it gets patched soon because it is being abused by malicious users
river zinc
thanks for the input
worthy oracle
yup, it is modded client users doing it
night prairie
smh, any ways to avoid it or its just one of those things
fading flower
anyone else gettin shot outa instances?
like join x person
100%
loading home world
fading flower
im good now
ivory folio
the kick exploit has been a thing since day 1, I can't imagine it'll be fixed either any time soon
river zinc
well ive known it has been a thing but it just struck me as strange as to why its been happening and just now being an issue for many others whos friends of friends of others i know including myself. first it thought it was just me because I was streaming but others who dont stream were getting targeted too in worlds I wasn't even in. I thought it was odd. Like its just not one person using the client it has to be multiple and why are they now using it to kick others. idk
ivory folio
I don't know why it's suddenly became a thing again, but someone released a public version of it so now all the skids are flexing it
ivory folio
But I guess the more publicity it gets, the quicker it will be patched. I feel like it shouldn't have been possible in the first place though, it's such an easy exploit
rancid vessel
Can't they just add some type of verification to the kick system and if it finds a user trying to bypass it just issue a server kick or don't work at all?
ivory folio
Yeah or just check who is sending the vote kick, right now they only check the number of vote kicks, they don't care where they came from
The log files don't show anything useful, you might be able to see vote kicks against you in the player moderation api but I'm not sure about that
ancient kindle
hello yes this is cat
vocal shard
would vrchat work on a bloody Microsoft Hololens?
silk shadow
some one is offering a pc for 600 nzd with a i7-4790k how well would this run vrchat
covert blade
Probably relatively well. What GPU?
silk shadow
1050 ti but i;m going to change to a gtx 1070 when i find a job
i have a rift s
rn now i have a i5-3470 +1050 ti
primal summit
I Have A GTX 1660
meager solstice
@silk shadow that should run fine (the new pc)
silk shadow
or should i save up for a new pc with a i5-9600kf +2060 idk i want a better pc now but i want it to run well
covert blade
Anyone else always has mixed feeling about mutes? Like, it's kinda interesting when they do everything via hand gestures but at the same time I would just wish they could actually talk back.
rigid crescent
They're usually annoying in group settings, to be honest
because everyone has to sit around them and watch them write or decode their body language
primal summit
na i know thay log bot commands so dosen`t make a diffrents if i deleat or not
rigid crescent
it slows down the natural flow of conversation
meager solstice
@silk shadow it depends on more of what u want.... do u want a future proof pc or just a better one
covert blade
I'm actually friend with one mute person who also uses Discord, no reply so far
primal summit
RIP
meager solstice
I donβt have a problem with mutes tbh
Most r just shy and have ended up talking in the end once u become good friends
silk shadow
i just want a good pc that runs it well but i also have vive full body tracker too so
silk shadow
what gpu should i put with
meager solstice
I mean they donβt really have the 10 series anymore
silk shadow
yeah
silk shadow
yeah i am
meager solstice
I agree with Jaime
vocal shard
Basically a GTX 1070
silk shadow
i'm using a oculus quest with alvr so my fps is maxed at 72 fps also i have a Kinect v2 for full body
1070 are 250 usd here
primal summit
im Useing a GTX 1660
primal summit
Ya I Love The Index Controllers
silk shadow
gpu does not matter much for vrchat aye
primal summit
i know my gpu dosen't even get hot fans on it don't even spin
covert blade
Hmmm seeing people with FBT really makes me wanna have that too, but I don't really like spending so much more extra money right now
And the fact that I need to charge three extra devices on top of my two controllers now. I'm just gonna have one wall of VR devices that are being charged
primal summit
gotta love discord text format
covert blade
Use ' instead of `
primal summit
tnx
silk shadow
mason have a look at nolo vr its a cheap full body tracking set up
covert blade
Yeah I might check that out considering a single tracker costs 119β¬
silk shadow
or have a look at the Kinect v2 with led tracking
covert blade
Maybe once I'm more invested into VRChat I'll consider it
silk shadow
what hmd do u have ?
covert blade
Vive
silk shadow
well then u can also look into using a used vive controllers
spare galleon
I made a new server today it's mainly just for sharing videos If anyone is interested
compact river
glad bolt
π€
covert blade
I'm still thinking about whether or not I should go for it
compact river
I do hear being over Weight does cause problems with the hip tracker
So take care with that
covert blade
I'm a skinny boi
covert blade
That's like the thing I worry about the least. I'm more worried about the 360 bucks just for the trackers + some third party belts to use with the trackers
covert blade
Still, 360 bucks for trackers
- I'm a lazy person so putting them all on and charging them and stuff, ehh
Maybe once I'm a lot more invested into VR Chat I'll consider it
glad bolt
Be careful wearing a white shirt with the hip tracker too in case it drapes over the puck. Was frustrating for me, hilarity for others watching my body fly around.
compact river
Its like vr all over again its a drug
glad bolt
Belly covers sensor
compact river
Ya thats what they had problems with
desert stratus
omfg i first thought that then felt bad and thought "its prob just way too offset for the hipbone" jfc
compact river
And if you put belt higher it messes with human proportioned models
So feet will be off
And knees
Not like any avatar world brothers doing that tho
Ya tbh best to be good at basics of blender because fbt avatar worlds are a. trash b. Laggy af avatars or c. Just dont exist
glad bolt
lunar shell
Fbt, I made a tracker belt and tracker shoes. Takes me 1 min to put on. Those belts on Amazon are not worth it.
rigid crescent
shoes? who wants to wear shoes the whole time theyre in vr
blazing dragon
how do I leave a group?
vocal shard
Who Wants Spanish memes?
uncut willow
no
maybe
my accout got deleted but first disabled so i need to do nothing to help with that but do the same thing i did then chill in vr while my accout gets slowly disabled again
jk
maybe not but idk
worthy oracle
can the devs please fix this force kick like lmao
naive fossil
hi
icy zealot
oh hi Mark
ornate jewel
ahh is community lab bugged? I can't see anything in community lab list hmm.
still lark
@ornate jewel Did you expand it?
ornate jewel
yep
still lark
Seems fine here, try waiting 60 seconds. :P
ornate jewel
oh I restarted the VRC and it's fine now lol.. well thanks : )
primal summit
Best VRChat Log Viewer https://nyanpa.su/vrchatlog/
still lark
You are cursed BlueASIS :P
vestal pier
π
thick dirge
Are swears aloud :I
vestal pier
shid
rotund wren
π±
vestal pier
crap!
rotund wren
Damn it BlueASIS
vestal pier
terd π
primal summit
reeeeeeeeeeee
glad bolt
Should be manageable to have a conversation without cussing... π€
Also, read rule #3.
tawny ore
I will at some point XD
glad bolt
Oof
glad maple
hi
hollow sluice
Why is vrchat such a inconsistant game? One Day I can go to a public world with 15 ppl and get 60 fps constantly
glad maple
i know what you mean
hollow sluice
Onethar Day I drop to 4 fps while looking at a mirror in a sΓ³lo world
glad maple
oof
hollow sluice
Sorry for my terrible writing. Phone keyboatds suck
glad maple
it is ok
hollow sluice
Can I do anything about it?
rigid crescent
A lot of factors come into play
hollow sluice
I cant imagine what it Is because the game runs differently every day
glad maple
hey dose any one want to start a call?
hollow sluice
For what?
glad maple
psh i don't know
glad maple
i have no ideer i just wanted to be in a call
analog peak
Does anyone's PC keep rebooting while playing VRChat?
glad maple
no
cold talon
wait straight up reboots? is your pc overheating or something?
tawny ore
Maydragon your PC is overheating.
Clear out the dust, ensure plentiful ventilation in there
May wish to re-apply thermal paste to the CPU if you use a desktop tower
analog peak
Yeah, tho that happens only on VRChat. Nothing of the sort happens while I play BeatSaber
tawny ore
Beatsaber is not an intensive game
analog peak
Oh, never thought about it
tawny ore
VRChat is highly intensive (I've observed 8GB vram usage, 16GB RAM usage)
analog peak
MY GPU is doing well, but idk about CPU
I'm not a tech savvy but I know that much
oooo
Now it makes sense. It didn't reboot before until recently
I guess I need to update my fan..
cold talon
but first to be sure that overheating is the cause you could monitor your cpu temp
there are many programs that can do that
analog peak
Oh yeah, my friends told me that but I have no idea what that data mean to me
If I remember they were around 35C
hollow sluice
Thats good temps
cold talon
35 under no load, but you have to open vrc and play for a while to see the actual temps underload
hollow sluice
Are you sure your fans are working correctly?
cold talon
but how are you even getting 35 mine is idling at 50c under no load 
glad maple
bye
analog peak
@cold talon I did that
@hollow sluice How do I know that? Could you tell me, please? ;~;
Byeeeee, have a nice time!
@glad maple
It says max was 44C
I suspected Vive trackers but I tried everything umu
cold talon
44c while under load 
h-how, teach me sensei
analog peak
I wish I could understand all that stuff; - my PC was built by my dad and he says I should stop playing VRChat if it crashes me 
I bought HTC Vive and trackers for VRChat bruuh
cold talon
@obsidian oasis brug
analog peak
I'll ask my dad to upgrade the CPU performance then, or buy a new fan.
I am really sad I can play VRChat full-body but I guess I will play like that.
hollow sluice
Just check your temps and pinpoint tye issue
analog peak
As in?
hollow sluice
I dont know lol
umbral reef
Crashes as users doing janky stuff (game freezes and does nothing, BSOD or alike) or error code being thrown at ya
hollow sluice
Everyones PC is different
analog peak
That's true.
hollow sluice
Just get a monitoring program and Google IF your values are bad
cold talon
that 44c is a little suspicions tho, what cpu and cpu cooler do you have
hollow sluice
My CPU never goes above 53C and its ocd to 3,9 ghz
glad bolt
π€
cold talon
welp guess my cpu & cooler combo is just shat
hollow sluice
But my game goes to Like 7 fps when around mirrors
analog peak
Interl (R) Core(TM) i5-9600K CPU @ 3.70GHz
hollow sluice
@cold talon what are you using?
analog peak
Does that tell anything?
hollow sluice
@analog peak what cooler?
hollow sluice
Right..
cold talon
a i7-7700k with a Nzxt kraken x62 
hollow sluice
Do you have the box it came in?
analog peak
I'll ask my dad, one second
hollow sluice
Jesus I am using pussy shit out here compared to you guys
Ryzen 5 1st gen and a Be quiet! Pure rock
cold talon
pretty sure pure rock is better than the kraken
cold talon
not really just a little lower spec than the i7
hollow sluice
Yeah but multithreading is barely used by games
cold talon
guess vrc doesn't really get along with all those extra cores
hollow sluice
Yup
analog peak
Be Quiet BK008 Cooling Fan Black
hollow sluice
I should check my CPU usage because I doubt vrc uses all my cores
cold talon
everyone going quiet 
analog peak
That's what I have
hollow sluice
Should Be fine
analog peak
hmmmm
Then why am I rebooting all the time? I'm confused qAq
is Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO any better?
hollow sluice
Well first thong to do is to update all your drivers. And even update your bios IF possible. I had issues with my CPU on my old bios
analog peak
What is BIOS?
hollow sluice
analog peak
gg
hollow sluice
Iguess your motherboards drivers
Thats the Simple way to explain it
You should learn about your PC more and actually figure out whats the issue before You end up wastimg money on more shit
analog peak
Yeah, I know. I'm really tight with money right now & busy with school, I don't want to make any big decisions until everything's treid out first!
hollow sluice
Just learn up and you Will provably find the issue
analog peak
If my dad didn't figure out the issue, it will be even harder for me to guess @~@
But I will try.. Thank you!
cold talon
wooho, vacuumed my rad and coolers and dropped from 50c idle to 48c 
molten gale
Greeeeeat, the avatar I got is brokeb and the person that made it wont reply
opal ridge
rip
queen prawn
im spending so much time on vr i get motion sick from moving in real life now
rigid crescent
never buy anything unless theyre an established creator with references or from vrctraders and verified
inner cape
maybe he will stop wasting money on commissions and finally do some of his own work
vague nacelle
So much judgment on anyone who doesnβt make their own avatars. Gets old.
umbral reef
More judgement on people who commission avatars from A to Z (build to upload) and then cant fix it after a update or even have the files for there avatar.
glad maple
it was at this momement slaty knew he messed up
umbral reef
So we should feel sorry and be supportive of younger people paying for a service and not a product and getting relatively scammed with it?
glad maple
wow this is the most changed chat...
glad bolt
laissez faire; let it be.
rough pulsar
I mean, yeah sure let it be. They'll fall foul of the consequences of that eventually.
glad maple
oui
glad bolt
Justice comes in time.
umbral reef
π€· I just find it unjust for the consumer within this community when they get scammed/tricked into a worse deal without knowing what it implies.
Its insane how much users complained in this discord after the game version update because there avatar broke and they did not own the commission file.
Does not mean im judgmental against the people who fall for not owning the work they payed people for.
cold talon
Salty trying to crash us using French 
glad maple
hahahaha
glad bolt
cold talon
(chat will remember this)
glad maple
what
vocal shard
who wants to play
inner cape
i wasnt judging anyone πΏ
glad bolt
Oof
glad maple
mais merd quse qui se pass
glad bolt
So that's where you've been.
umbral reef
We where not doing that though?
We where talking about the person not having the tools at all to fix there own avatar. (And judging that as silly)
What you can ask for as you payed for it. Also means future updates wont brick your avatar permanently
glad maple
quoi
vague nacelle
Not here, happens a lot. The fake incredulity is what I recognized here. Nvm
People love to ask how much you paid then ridicule it.
glad maple
vous parlez de quoi
umbral reef
Also what you said also happens ot people who kitbash there own stuff, upload premade ones and ect.
'O you spend 150 hours making this? Lmao so dumb'
vocal shard
love getting ignored
umbral reef
@vocal shard There are around 7K+ users ingame. Im pretty sure those want to play
glad bolt
I bought my own avatar last night and chose not to have the files. Regardless of it breaks (which it did), the man I paid was extremely trustworthy and kind. It's a mixed bag when you purchase a service online.
glad maple
moi aussi fear moi aussi
vocal shard
@glad maple do you
umbral reef
Ow that also, plenty of kind but in the end illegal acting or evil avatar creators.
Stealing content, dropping support after a while or stealing avatars even and selling those.
vocal shard
i dont understand
glad maple
yes
vocal shard
ok add me in vrchat alenbejtja6
glad maple
what me
glad bolt
But you can't pass judgement on them saying they'll become evil or do illegal acts...?
That's like saying if I did commissions, but out of the blue started charging way more than what I started with, take the money and discard my online alias.
umbral reef
Maybe i made it not clear but never said that all or most avatar creators are that. Plenty bad apples but plenty good ones. I push people to the VRC traders discord for a reason.
And that has happened more then once within this community so far...
glad bolt
I joined Sadie's Avatar Hub, no issues.
vocal shard
ok
umbral reef
I bitched about that also?
I put the blame maybe on the seller more then the consumer not knowing specific things. And the idea that not giving files is fairly normal when buying content.
cold talon
Hmm, I see an opportunity in the marketspace, avatar fixer, avatar broke after update and don't want to bother fixing it? For the low low price of 2-5$ it will be good as new 
glad maple
wtf
umbral reef
That also π€·
glad maple
WTF WTF
umbral reef
@cold talon Price is legit too low for how much work it often is lmao
Throw a nice 20 bucks at them :^)
inner cape
not only its forbidden, its yet another risk, in addition to getting scammed
glad bolt
I'm gonna yield from this discussion for now. Glad I got to hear both sides.
cold talon
20 seems a little high, some make entire avatars for 20
umbral reef
Kitbash*
cold talon
Well yeah ^
inner cape
updating my Twitter...
avatar fixing commissions now open πΏ
covert blade
@glad maple gg
inner cape
my idea now trihard7
glad bolt
The timing with you
glad maple
fuck this
cold talon
umbral reef
Ghosto pattent it fast, then bahka cant use it
covert blade
Ok remind me again why you're so angry rn?
Sorry not been paying attention
@glad maple
Name checks out I guess
glad bolt
You want something, Ghost?
cold talon
Patent 
π¦
inner cape
who, me?
glad bolt
Yeye
glad bolt
Sneaky cheeki breeki
cold talon
Say you want 12 thousand dollars
inner cape
Baka, I'm gonna have to ask you to remove that from your name as you do not hold the rights to use it as stated on this paper:
[Avatar fixing services patent]... read more
glad bolt
π
cold talon
Sorry sir under federal law you have no right to patent an idea or service 
But that sadly means that I cannot stop you from fixing avatars either 
inner cape
πΏ
glad maple
hi
inner cape
under moyai law I'm dictating a new federal law that allows me to potent a service
now take that down, sir
inner cape
ππΏ
cold talon
But its not a patent 
inner cape
you cannot defy the moyai law
cold talon
I'm not
glad maple
ok
cold talon
Hehe, imagine patenting the entire procces of fixing avatars, he.. he...
inner cape
you'll summon piss boy, careful
cold talon
Who the lord what?
cold talon
Cyhann 
indigo fern
my kyoudai 
https://imgur.com/a/VbaBV7i
inner cape
F
cold talon
;~;
indigo fern
not it
molten gale
Thats currently the issue with the avatar
cold talon
Damping how much the bone basically gets affected by movment, elasticity how fast it returns to the original position stiffness uhh, stiff-ness inert how much the bone moves around
inner cape
you can ignore middle 2 for now
set the bottom slider to 0.8-0.9
set top slider to 0.5
then play around with them, increasing or decreasing both untill you get a hang of it
(move the model in play mode to test values)
cold talon
molten gale
hecc
cold talon
Wait Paci I got some values written down somewhere, do you want me to dm them?
molten gale
sure
cold talon
Aight, heating up the proton beamers, starting data transfer, establishing p2p connection, focusing on target receptor, beaming!
Done.
inner cape
sounds like you're trying to blow up funky boy
glad maple
next thing you know
kind condor
indigo fern
i dunno, i have a favorite moment with some of my friends
gilded heart
Hello
tardy thorn
hi
indigo fern
so there was this [redacted] with a huge [redacted], he even had full body
so this man jumps through a door with his [redacted] [redacted] all over the place and [redacted] just dies
tardy thorn
bruh
gilded heart
is it just me or VRchat is a bit slow today?
tardy thorn
it's you
gilded heart
hmm, anything i can do about it? things load really slow
molten finch
cleaning your cache?
sharp oracle
Hi all
gilded heart
hello
slate verge
π
ruby palm
does anyone else keep crashing randomly ?
glossy karma
subtle trout
@gilded heart Search in your desktop for %appdata%> click local low folder> drag and drop vrchat folder in trash and delete it> THAT is deleting your Junk cache.
Ingame helps only when you are loading into another instance, but it fills up with every room and avatar you load, so switching avatars and rooms all the time will just refill it. You must clear both these.
There was also an update, so sometimes you have to delete and reinstall vrchat to fix the bugs.
gilded heart
Nice thanks
subtle trout
You're welcome.
@indigo fern I just LOVE your redactions. It's like watching TV from 1991.
molten finch
@subtle trout does it clean avatars you wear ?
inner cape
it does not, favourites are kept on your account after all
as well as uploaded content
molten finch
oh ok
distant crater
Oof
glad bolt
π€
distant crater
Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
languid beacon
Hi VRChat wrong server
distant crater
Hello @languid beacon
Am i the only one that think's B.E.R Forever Mine i good?
distant crater
Who clicked the link?
tacit plank
You linked a search
distant crater
I know
tacit plank
With "=gottem+hand" in the URL
cold talon
pfft
molten finch
π
cold talon
and nobody can stop me!
distant crater
Oh no
tacit plank
O shit"Multiple event handlers found on VRCWorld, bad things will happen"
distant crater
He's making mac and cheese!
||Dio is just mac and cheese because he wear's yellow||
glad bolt
Mac and wryyyy
inner chasm
tulip shard
sharp remnant
hewo
topaz bridge
Hey
sharp remnant
im a woli so i spwell tings wong swometwimes lmao
glad bolt
π€
hushed glen
wot
dense orchid
idk why but my frame rate is really low when i open up vrchat. i have a pretty good pc i just built
ruby needle
all drivers installed? and the main monitor is plugged into the GPU (not motherboard)
should not have any issues in desktop
dense orchid
yup from what i can see. i downloaded and installed the gpu drivers
compact river
I was having massive frame drops but that was a sream vr bug not desktop one
dense orchid
monitors are plugged into the graphics card
compact river
Make sure 2070 is updated for sure i had problems in the past because i did not xD
vocal shard
ah, I see
hushed shale
Im gonna be getting a Kinect for full body tracking lmao
Fingers crossed it'll work
hushed glen
lol, a third of the price for a full set of trackers
hushed shale
It's just to toy around with, if it doesn't work, I already have an XB1 so, that'll be fine lol
I'm buying the Acer Microsoft Mixed Reality for now
hushed shale
Samsung?
vestal pier
Any other
Lenovo Explorer is what id reccomend
Dell Visor, too.
Acers is the lowest of the low
Samsung Odyssey is good, yeah.
hushed shale
Thank you for the advice. I'm looking into the Lenovo now
hushed glen
the Acer WMR looks like flimsy plastic that'll break if you tap your knuckle on it
vestal pier
Thats a perfect description of the product.
vestal pier
It will, but dont.
hushed shale
I've heard the Kinect will be fine for full body, but, it's just temporary
hushed glen
PSVR on SteamVR "works"... I tried it, the 3rd party driver allows it to work without the camera array since it has internal tracking, but it's REALLY innacurate and flimsy. It drifts a lot
vestal pier
Again, it will - dont.
hushed shale
I'm just trying to get this done on a budget lol. But, the Kinect is can wait until the next check
hushed shale
It's $35 at my local gamestop, and I can get a couple for pretty decent full body tracking if I put them up on the wall with shelves
vestal pier
WMR is a good place to start
hushed shale
My main focus is on the VR for sure
vestal pier
Ok what happens if you get the VR headset and you actually suffer from chronic headaches because of it
you have to sell all of that obsolete hardware now
Get vr, take it slow - dont worry about full body. VRChat is not the only game ever.
hushed shale
Oh, I know. I'd also like to get into Beatsaber and some VR FPS games\
vestal pier
Aight. WMR good place to start.
hushed shale
So, Amazon has a Lenovo for $250
And a bluetooth adapter for close to $5
I should also get a case too
Also, the headset comes with a warranty so, that's a plus!
compact river
make sure what ever room you play in is lit up
scenic briar
@sullen totem
hushed shale
They added me, brought me into a group call
and then I saw they were 12 so, I blocked them lol
compact river
wide bronze
;-;
restive orbit
how do i get known user i got 278 hours and 54 friends
rigid crescent
You play til it happens
Don't bother trying to find out numbers, any numbers anyone tells you are wrong
vocal shard
^
vrchat isnt about getting ranked up the fastest, vrchat is about meeting new people and making friends
rigid crescent
Gaining/Losing ranks will do absolutely nothing for you whatsoever, so it's best not even to worry about it past getting upload rights
restive orbit
i thought u had to be known rank to upload worlds
vernal slate
Idk how to get this message out but a User by the name of Sasaki Misashi is a known crasher
rigid crescent
You don't, because witch hunting is against the rules
vernal slate
Little Update on the Crasher Sasaki, He's currently hunting us down and force crashing all of us, we've tried going into private worlds yet they just force they're way into them, its really getting on our nerves
vernal slate
He's in a crashing gang, and they insta crash you as soon as they join
worthy oracle
they canβt join you if youβre not friends with them
vernal slate
They can force they're way in servers even if
We've had it happen a total of 7 times now
worthy oracle
then just use safety and hide avatars
- block them
but I doubt thatβs a thing honestly, I havenβt seen that
If you simply log in the game
there is no way they can force into a private world
some people are solely on the game to be malicious tho ,_,
vernal slate
Its currently happening, I'm a very cautious person on VRC, My safety settings are voice only unless for friends, Him and his gang are not using crash avatars, and we do have most of them blocked, yet they use crash clients, causing yours to crash entirely, They have managed to find they're way into our servers regardless of who owns it
brittle flax
analog peak
The PC still keeps rebooting after my dad updated the BIOS...
I am really at a miss, I don't know why this is happening ;;
queen lark
Oh god I'm gonna get my headset is the next few days and I'm so excited.
analog peak
Congrats!
true sky
@vernal slate you mean the one where you get the annoying vrchat crashed message
next steppe
Hey fellas, quick question - anyone here ever impulse buy a VR headset, and regret it?
glad bolt
My Index is arriving next Monday!
true sky
nah
glad bolt
Bought my vanilla Vive last winter, haven't regretted it since.
next steppe
I'm thinking I might. I mean, I know mutes are a common thing in VRChat, but I have little to no privacy in my house.
true sky
wmr with kinect as another base station, but i do rarely use it and need to use it more
glad bolt
You could also use a soundboard/soundpad if you'd like to communicate without actually talking.
true sky
when working on my maps, i am usually in desktop
next steppe
Well, this can really be decided if I play VRChat some more. Then I'll see if it's worth it for me.
vocal shard
Yall crazy
true sky
if you have remotes that require batteries to be replaced, a good set of rechargables should come in handy
glad maple
je suis ariver
true sky
so you dont burn through 4 pack in 2-3 days depending on usage
next steppe
Little too early to get technical, a VR headset costs like, what? 400 bucks minimum?
next steppe
Aye. 'S why I brought this up. There's a good price at a second-hand site on the Oculus Quest. circa 380 euros.
true sky
got WMR for $299 from bestbuy when HP headsets were on sale
add shipping and taxes ofc and its as close to $399 USD
next steppe
Best to get it inside the country, then. Or do the boring thing called math, but, nah.
Cheers for the opinions, but I think I'll just wait a bit. See if VRChat's really my thing, and if other VR games are gucci, too.
true sky
np
just giving our experience of headsets, but i am not a fan of Quest as its pretty limited in creativity
but its early stages, so π€·
can't join :<
still lark
@fringe glade He tried to remove it but I guess it didn't work.
fringe glade
i know i know :(
could ask stuff next time tho it was a public model ;-;
but it's a nice way to check i guess eheh
still lark
Kick first and ask questions later. :P
fringe glade
fair :>
covert chasm
@fringe glade Sorry, been a bit defensive lately 
Apologies
fringe glade
Is ok is ok ; I ordered food in the meantimes 8D
Better be sorry than having no more GPU
still lark
say goodbye to your gpu buddy
cyan current
hi
fringe glade
shot pink particles
still lark
When Discord starts returning 503s
vocal shard
Anyone wanna play
covert blade
@vocal shard rule 15?
true sky
did someone violate rule 15 again 
flint sundial
heya guys
desert stratus
hello chi-chan
slate verge
@molten gale grats paci!
vocal shard
Welp VRChat is experiencing some issues. Then again when isn't it
It's not showing my friends nor when I click on a friend who is on, it doesn't show where they're at
inner cape
have you attempted anything to fix it yourself before typing this?
vocal shard
Do I look like a vrchat developer?
inner cape
π
umbral reef
So if your pc stops working you wont take any steps at all 'because im not a hardware developer'?
inner cape
there still are things you can do, from something simple as expanding the friends menu a few times, to restarting your game, PC or router, and you dont need to be a dev for that
vocal shard
I know how to fix computers...
flint sundial
A lot of times I clear out my temp files on my comp it helps with some issues
And I make sure everything is updated
vocal shard
I've restarted my game, I'm not going to restart my router because my roommate is in a middle of a lol tourney, and I cleared my cache. So it has to be the crummy servers
still lark
Works fine here.
flint sundial
Have u cleared out your computers temp files?
It helps me a lot when I do that if Iβm glitching or having issues in vr
vocal shard
And I've tried going to the pug checking, still the same, and going back to my home world. I'm on desktop atm
umbral reef
Doing a proper PC reboot also solves some problems.
still lark
It's amazing what a PC reboot can solve.
flint sundial
Sometimes I delete the vrchat app and reinstall it too
Sometimes files get corrupted
vocal shard
I'm not in the mood to reboot my pc...
I'll just deal with vrchat bugs and errors. I miss the the way vrchat had things running 3 years ago
flint sundial
I mean people are trying to help lol and u are knocking everything lol so I mean u either wanna fix it or u donβt
vocal shard
Meh, they can stick it where the sun don't shine. I just came in here what a few other people and I are dealing with even with all of those things don't work. Not everything is going to work for everyone. Just sending a warning and that's it.
slate verge
you could try and restart steam probably
however i do notice that when some people experience bugs and issues, it takes a few hours to come to me
its sort of like a wave
flint sundial
Thatβs true too but sometimes itβs on your end Iβve had stuff like that happen and I did a few things and fixed it
slate verge
so like some e.u people are experiencing buggy ui's and at the moment i don't see any issues, hours later bam it happens to me
inner cape
wow, what a douche πΏ
slate verge
but usually i tried to resolve things on my own first or you know observe and seek if others are experiencing the same issues
flint sundial
Yea same I mean some stuff is game wide and some is the desktop losing its mind lol I mean I have a beefy comp but I still gotta run maintenance on it to keep vrchat running good itβs a intensive game
Itβs a free game itβs gonna have bugs lol for a Free game though itβs pretty awesome
slate verge
you're right
subtle basin
tawny ore
Who be do happen play VRChat and chill later this afterday?
Sorry, 18th coffee kicked in.
ancient kindle
hello yes this is cat
flint sundial
Haha heya and Iβll be on shortly lol
compact river
Work and family dinner and gym and game day for me x.x
flint sundial
Ohh whatβs for dinner
compact river
Pizza ranch
tawny ore
Soul is a master chef; won Masterchef Mars 2 years ago. With a bacon sandwich.
compact river
Hue
flint sundial
That sounds yummy π€€ I had honey chicken tenders for lunch
tawny ore
I had sushi... Q_Q
tawny ore
I'd be happy to share... I bought a huge box of it xD Ran out of soy sauce and was like "Dis too dam good to leave behind" so I ate it dry.
compact river
flint sundial
Haha I donβt blame u one bit Iβd say my fav sushi roll is this deep fried sushi roll I had one time it was amazing
inner cape
soyboy
stiff sparrow
π€£
river wagon
i've seen a few people who seem to be in desktop able to adjust their avatar's position vertically, as if they had playspace mover
its not flying avatars though, they're using normal avatars but floating
is it an update to playspace mover?
or are they using something else?
severe hatch
I'm going to be honest, I have no idea.
tawny ore
I'm a Soy Brute
severe hatch
Thank you, Saint, very cool!
tawny ore
You lost me at "Thank you". Context required.
severe hatch
My apologies.
tawny ore
Apology refused. Baseless and reduces the impact of your future apologies.
Please use your apology quantity wisely. 
severe hatch
I cannot lie, I didn't get any of that. Due to me having the big dumb.
tawny ore
That is nothing to be concerned about. There are days where we function poorly regardless of our best efforts.
glad bolt
Wh...
tawny ore
Yes.
glad bolt
No.
tawny ore
What a negative outlook on life.
glad bolt
Dude, you're making no sense, put down the soy sauce.
tawny ore
I'm dual wielding soy sauce bottles XD It's my soy, I do what I want.
glad bolt
Well, fine~!
severe hatch
Ecks dee.
tawny ore
(s)ecks ee
glad bolt
Oh. Whoa.
vocal shard
how do i get xxx on vr chat
or eric cartman
tawny ore
severe hatch
Um.
glad bolt
Search...?
tawny ore
Find...?
Look for "South park avatar" worlds or something.
vocal shard
Hey
vr chat works if i put only my kinect because i want to move only my hands and i don't have the headset vr i can put only kinect for me to move only my body
molten finch
Hey i want to invite a friend in the room where i actually am but where can he see the notification ? i also dont have any notif when he sends me an invite to join his private room
vernal slate
@true sky Yep
low hull
its keanu reeves birthday
river wagon
welp, it looks like the new Moderation Kick exploit has become widespread
tawny ore
Yeah... At least it doesn't kill your game
queen canyon
anyone know a place I can find Persona Q2 avatars? I've been looking around and I feel like it'll be in a world that doesnt have persona in it's name
covert blade
https://i.imgur.com/7oTXvJc.jpg So... that's interesting
quiet beacon
hm
covert blade
By the power of the broken friends list one of the name plates has the wrong color
quiet beacon
o
wide bronze
:/
covert blade
Okay so, I have this alt account now.... and it works pretty well.
I can literally see how big the delay is. No wonder playing Murder is a nightmare with this
quiet beacon
ive been havin issuessss
covert blade
I could take this one step further and use this as a better camera that can see everything but I think I'll be fine using my alt as an avatar dump
quiet beacon
with vrchat
covert blade
Issues being?
quiet beacon
Its confusing i have 2 wifis at my house like 2 diff sources and one of them... i can only see people as like the blue ghost thingy and then i time out
the other source being worse then the other doesnt disconnect me
and vrchat is the only game ive tested out all my other games too make sure
covert blade
How 2 play online games:
Step 1: Use Ethernet
quiet beacon
Nah its only vrchat...
covert blade
Use Ethernet
quiet beacon
but i mean i could try that...
ruby needle
It might only be VRChat that shows it that clearly
cus VRChat uses quite a lot of bandwith
covert blade
Also I'd argue that VRChat is the most important game for some people
quiet beacon
ok...
ruby needle
And, always use ethernet if you have the chance to get it some how
covert blade
Soo yeah, Ethernet. I know why I'm using it
quiet beacon
waiiit
covert blade
- is wait *
quiet beacon
can i pm
covert blade
Huh, if I had a third account I could start a Murder round solo and explore the map as much as I want
quiet beacon
i type in segments and delay not helpful
covert blade
Unless I figure out how 2 glitch out of map
tacit plank
What happens if I edit the VRChat collision matrix to make players collide with players?
inner cape
basically what was just posted in random chat πΏ
covert blade
Imagine
desert stratus
thats like how many screenshots i take doing nothing so >u>
livid aurora
anyone for some cards against humanity ?
tight loom
wow senko that pf is too cute
tight loom
np
covert blade
Senko avatars when?
quiet beacon
theres already one
covert blade
Why isn't everyone using it?
quiet beacon
~im gonna try to do that ethernet thing~
tight loom
nani?
quiet beacon
nani?
tight loom
nani deska?
covert blade
Oooo
quiet beacon
oooooooo
cold talon
tight loom
oooooooo
quiet beacon
Yea stop spamming loser
tight loom
;-;
inner cape
ππΏ silence, degenerates
quiet beacon
@inner cape hecc u
tight loom
no u
quiet beacon
sorry i love u
dawn mortar
i really wish they would fix the stupid "created too many sessions for that user" bug by now, i login to the website a few times today and it causes me to now be unable to login to anything for an unknown duration -.-
quiet beacon
f
tight loom
owo
vocal shard
How do you enable the avatars on medi kawaii's world?
tight loom
im new dont ask me
vocal shard
owo
dawn mortar
and its been an hour and that error is still there...
next steppe
Hey guys, is it viable to get VR headset and VR controllers separately?
thick dirge
yeah
inner cape
why would you do that
thick dirge
inner cape
every normal vr headset already comes with controllers and buying them separate is more expensive
next steppe
Might be cheaper, and the results might not be terrible. Just speculating.
Every VR headset?
Not counting the phone ones, of course.
umbral reef
Tl;dr its never cheaper and the quallity is always worse then
inner cape
oculuses' , htc vives' and valve index comes with controllers
next steppe
So, the expensive ones.
inner cape
if you're looking at off brand LIDL headsets, then I cannot help you
next steppe
No, Just seeing if I could buy VIVE controllers and use another cheaper - working - headset. I haven't really watched unboxing videos, nor did I ever get technical, so I don't know much about this.
covert blade
You do not want to buy VIVE controllers
Those are largely considered to be among the worst controllers you can get
next steppe
Because of design, function, or something else?
inner cape
design, they are like tv remotes and offer no immersion if not make it worse
covert blade
They're huge
inner cape
plus youd have to find a headset that is compatible with them
covert blade
I mean, they work, but you don't want to specifically buy those when there's better alternatives
next steppe
M'a'right. So, Oculus controllers are more immersive?
inner cape
oculus controllers are very good, yes, but.. they only work with oculus headsets
next steppe
So, I'd have to get the full package... Which is circa 700-800 euros.
inner cape
rift s is 400 euros
covert blade
Do they?
inner cape
unless your country is yucky with VR and its overpriced
covert blade
I thought SteamVR also has support for Oculus ones
broken plover
they get to steamvr through oculus software
if theres no headset running the controllers wont connect to steamvr
inner cape
you need oculus base stations for them to work too
next steppe
Y'all lost me.
covert blade
oof