There's a post on reddit about 3rd tracker issue
#vrchat-general-2
rigid crescent
probably a pc issue
wise perch
-;;-
facepalms
rigid crescent
try emailing steam
tawny ore
You didn't do that Bamzu
"Can someone help me i don't get why only 2 of my trackers pair but the 3rd one wont work no matter what. "
I have had the exact same issue and the image I just linked answered my question.
Impatience will get you a lot of discarded hardware.
This is not the channel for helping people; I have literally attempted to help you
And you brush it off like a non-attempt
covert blade
wise perch
hows about the toxicity gets turned down a bit and you actually accept the assistance Fuzz is trying to give you?
tawny ore
Don't side with me dem lol
I'm very abrupt at times.
^ he gets it
Well I give up helpin' ya my dude.
wise perch
dick or not, his assistance is blunt and he is trying to help.
tawny ore
Probably better for both of us.
vocal shard
@frigid raptor msg me and let jesus alone
ornate finch
don't expect everyone chilling within general to have patience/or time** to help every lost soul
tawny ore
Verita 
You're not the bad guy; stop painting yourself ๐
It's an early morning, you were in the wrong channel and I'm terribly blunt with my wording.
dapper stump
I mean i would say google is the best answer for a question like that, has several solutions to that exact problem. And he did mention that he also had that exact same issue and that it was the solution for him.
tawny ore
Is okay. I didn't expect people to side with me, it would only make Bamzu feel worse about everyone lol. We forget this ever happened.
Wulfie how was your day?
dapper stump
All good :d soon coming up to 3am but yeah
tawny ore
Ohh you're a states/canadianiansian
@wise perch So this is how it feels to be from the future...
dapper stump
Yeah how is it over there in the future? Anything new yet
tawny ore
Dem-1 is like 12 hours ahead of you wolfie
I'm only 4 hours ahead... and can confirm - no new tech
dapper stump
Oh damn 12 hours? You celebrate new year almost a day ahead...
wise perch
lmao
dapper stump
Means 1999 to 2000 you were a whole century ahead
tawny ore
woosh
vocal shard
tawny ore
I remember the countdown... but because I was like 8; I had no concept of why that year was important.
dapper stump
The only thing that changed that year was my birds ripped all at once
dapper stump
Only thing that broke were my birds exactly at 12 after the countdown
tawny ore
I am so confused XD What birds
wise perch
cockatoos? parrots? owls? or maybeh pigeons?
tawny ore
inb4 toucans
dapper stump
I had 2 birds lmao after the rumor that all the tech and clocks are gonna break and yeah.. it was such a mess but only thing that broke were the poor birds and i dont even remember lol i just remember that they passed out at the exact time
tawny ore
o,..,0
wise perch
....intriguing.
tawny ore
That reminds me of that series where everyone in the world passed out for like 2 minutes
dapper stump
Anyways gotta go before i literally pass out, nini
wise perch
nini, Wulfie
light wedge
i use speech to text and text to speech
wise perch
nice :3
๐
tawny ore
Dem-1 You're nice.
wise perch
hm? slightly confused
wise perch
eeps quietly
tawny ore
Qhala this was on my clipboard in anticipation of your message: "Qhala you're breathtaking!"
wise perch
lmao. why was that on your clipboard, if i might ask?
tawny ore
Because I expected Qhala to say the breathtaking thing
But I was gonna paste it while qhala types
But then I had to make coffee and missed this
wise perch
lol
inner cape
wise perch
is that somethin they say a lot, then? lol
inner cape
yes
tawny ore
emoji related
snow wadi
snow wadi
What am I talking about? My avatar doesn't fare better in safety.
tawny ore
Exactly.
snow wadi
But I make up for it by being a fun loving giant burb! โค
winged thistle
@rough pulsar you said you have the Index right? what headset did you have before?
rotund wren
howdy gamers
winged thistle
or anyone having an Index headset here?
rotund wren
only the controllers
winged thistle
I got the headset today and tried it out for a bit... there seems to be a... glaring issue
๐
hopefully that's just something you get used to, but right now the glare is pretty bad
rough pulsar
@winged thistle vive then vive pro then index
coarse rock
I have the Index, full kit
I guess I'm one of the few who hasn't any issues whatsoever ๐
rough pulsar
And yeah, the glare is different, the cases where it's worst is opposite to what you're used to, which is where there's bright light near the edges of the display.
With the index it's worst when you have a dark scene with a bright area that's central.
It can be slightly managed by getting your fit as near perfect as you can, IPD, eye relief, and general HMD positioning on your face.
winged thistle
yeah I tried fiddling around with that for a few minutes. it was really noticable in the Void Club for instance
will give it another go this evening
coarse rock
I'd say spend some more time adjusting the HMD
winged thistle
but it's definitely more glarin than the OG Vive
rough pulsar
I wouldn't say more, just different. I've mostly got used to the Index's glare now.
coarse rock
Same w/ me
winged thistle
okay, guess I'll give it a few days and see if I can get used to it...
coarse rock
Personally, doesn't bother me, and really I'd say it's way more noticeable in dark environments.
Playing here & there for most games, you really won't notice it.
rough pulsar
It'll take a bit more than that. I'd say it took me about two-three weeks to get properly used to all the little differences with the Index.
winged thistle
well even in the default home I can see like the pillows on teh couch glaring when they're moving across the screen
I mean everything else with the Index is better than the Vive
it's just that glaring that's the one issue I have right now. and the lack of bass in the speakers but I can live with that
they're still a thousand times better than the Vive DAS
rough pulsar
Huh, the Index's speakers are super-bassy for me.
coarse rock
I was going to say the same
winged thistle
maybe it's just what I'm used to
I'm used to wearing my closed back headphones
which have a nice pronounced bass
rough pulsar
Valve did intentionally go for a very even frequency response for the speakers
winged thistle
but yeah I can feel them vibrating pretty hard when playing music
ruby needle
closed 
winged thistle
yeah I had no other choice... it's hard to find open back headphones that fit my ears and stuff perfectly
trust me I very much prefer an open sound stage to a closed one, but I'm super sensitive when it comes to the comfort of something I wear for several hours
@rough pulsar do you also basically completely darken out your room when playing in VR? like draw the curtains and turn off the lights and stuff
ruby needle
muh DT880 are comfy 
winged thistle
yeah I can't do over-ear
ruby needle
on ear?
winged thistle
I have yet to find a pair of headphones where my earlobes don't touch the drivers
oh they looked like over-ear
winged thistle
they are for me
if they have good cushions
around-ear is uncomfortable for me with 99% of the headphones out there cause the tips of my ears usually touch the drivers and the rubbing when I move around is very distracting and annoying
ยฏ_(ใ)_/ยฏ
rough pulsar
@winged thistle Kinda? I turn my ceiling light off usually and have one of the wall lamps on that's about head height since it's an LED bulb
coarse rock
I play with the lights off :p
tawny ore
I only play when the lights go out ๐
Although my Rift S disagrees with my opinions.
rough pulsar
Do your cameras take quite a while to start up? It makes the chaperone camera view a bit awkward to use since there's a several second delay before you get visual
Compared to with the vive/pro where it was practically instant
winged thistle
I think so? I only tried it once cause I didn't know what it was
it took a few seconds for the room view "overlay" stuff to show up but then it worked fine, except that beam of light coming through the curtains was very weird looking
tawny ore
Oh Gallium - with my rift I've found that keeping light levels the same whenever you start up VR - helps the HMD figure out where it is
winged thistle
I haven't tried the actual camera view yet if there is one
rough pulsar
That makes sense, Insight probably works similar to WMR's tracking as it builds up a model of the tracking area as it goes, and with it being visually-based keeping it looking the same will help.
coarse rock
I've used it like once/twice, haven't found a practical use for it tbh
rough pulsar
With my vive I had the camera activate on chaperone bounds, since it made grabbing stuff outside of the play space super easy.
winged thistle
well I can see some use if you have to like find your keyboard or your fan without having to take off the headset
I never used the camera on the vive after the first few days cause the quality is just garbage
tawny ore
I open bottles of beer with all my VR implements still on my body XD
winged thistle
I mean yeah ti's good enough to grab something, but meh
rough pulsar
Mainly for grabbing a drink and adjusting the AC
tawny ore
It looks and sounds really funny to people in VRC
winged thistle
I can imagine
coarse rock
True, although I know where my fan is, and like my keyboard, etc just because of how long I've been playing in this playspace
rough pulsar
On more than one occasion I've eaten in VRC with all my gear on.
winged thistle
I played sitting in my chair the other day and wanted to grab the blanket from the couch without getting up
rough pulsar
Hmm, I should make a food eatability rating chart for the index controllers ๐ค
tawny ore
Index controllers sound ace for eating
coarse rock
If I'm eating while playing, I give myself a time to just take off my controllers and not touch them lmao
tawny ore
Although the thumb reach thing might be a bit wonky
winged thistle
I have found that even grabbing a glass is hard with just one hand with the Knuckles
rough pulsar
For stuff like pizza or toast they're super-easy to eat with.
winged thistle
๐ค
rough pulsar
burgers are a bit more awkward
tawny ore
Huh... Oculus touch controllers let me hold beers easily; but yeah holding a glass requires 2 hands for maximum security
winged thistle
I wouldn't even put my controllers anywhere near food tbh
rough pulsar
I have spares ๐คฃ
coarse rock
I've gotten fairly decent at typing with them on, it's still awkward af to move my mouse ๐
winged thistle
gimme some of that money, rich boi >_>
oh, another issue with the speaker setup... now I can actually hear the lighthouses when it's quiet in the game >_>
so guess those will get upgraded pretty soon too
coarse rock
Ah, you still have the 1.0s?
coarse rock
You'll notice a huge difference in tracking once you get the 2.0s
winged thistle
so I heard
rough pulsar
I'd love to switch to a 3 or 4 v2 lighthouse setup, but the shorter battery life of the v2 trackers is a major putoff
Although I know someone who's looking into replacement higher capacity batteries for them
winged thistle
wait, v2 trackers?
coarse rock
I'd assume 2018
winged thistle
right, you can't use 1.0 hardware with 2.0 lighthouses right?
vocal shard
index is the best for full body users
coarse rock
Yeah you can
rough pulsar
blue button, as opposed to the dev trackers which have a grey button
vocal shard
just buy an index
coarse rock
I have the 2018s
rough pulsar
v1 sensors do not work with v2 lighthouses
winged thistle
that's what I meant, yeah
rough pulsar
v2 sensors will work with either v1 or v2 lighthouses
vocal shard
if you have vive trackers buy an index if you dont plan on getting trackers get the index anyways
coarse rock
Ah, I've never had the v1 trackers aha, so I wouldn't know
tawny ore
What if I don't want an index? what do I get then?
vocal shard
get a rift s
coarse rock
I guess he'd say an index
winged thistle
get a Quest LUL
tawny ore
I really, really love the flexibility of the quest... It has no trackers so it fits in the garbage super easy
vocal shard
buy an index or rift s if you want a headset
tawny ore
I got a Rift S ๐
coarse rock
imagine a quest for vrc
tawny ore
Imagine Go for VRC
winged thistle
https://www.vive.com/eu/vive-tracker/ so these will work with the Index Lighthouses?
coarse rock
yikes lmao
vocal shard
@winged thistle
rough pulsar
Index if you have the money and/or space, or want high quality modular VR, Rift S if you like a lizard watching your every move.
tawny ore
Imagine Nintendo labo for VRC XD
coarse rock
pog
vocal shard
I use the index with my vive 2.0 trackers and 2.0 valve bases
rough pulsar
@winged thistle Yes, they will work with index lighthouses and vive lighthouses.
vocal shard
you just turn them on the same way with the vive and vive pro...
winged thistle
okay, wasn't sure cause it didn't state if they're "2.0" or not
tawny ore
Rift S comes with a lizard? I would love a lizard... I think they've spent a lot of time inside my dresser xD (I put the Rift into a drawer whenever not using it)
vocal shard
I have a vive, oculus, and index
they all work with full body except the oculus has scuffed tracking
rough pulsar
Vive, Vive Pro, Acer WMR, Index.
coarse rock
eh not really
vocal shard
oculus will glitch if you pass your controller over the hip
ruby needle
well vive and index are both using the same tracking system
coarse rock
Ehhh.. Not really either. If you hold the controller up to the tracker, yeah.
ruby needle
the oculus needs some special precautions to work with the vive system (matching playspaces)
tawny ore
Oculus updates have somewhat mitigated the hip/behind the head thing... You can do maybe two movements while out of sensor range and after that it glitches out
And I don't think I've ever needed more movements than that.
vocal shard
you fly off the map
coarse rock
Just run it through SteamVR, use some external programs, and bam. Good to go.
vocal shard
when you pass your oculus controller over the vive tracker
coarse rock
Not literally right when you pass it over the tracker
indigo fern
If you've ever seen a fbt user have their hip launched into space ๐
coarse rock
It's not that scuffed
rough pulsar
Happens horrifically with v1 trackers since Constellation devices flash shit-tons of bright IR light across the same spectrum as lighthouse works on
tawny ore
Oh the hip thing is hilarious; I've seen them look like an octopus
vocal shard
just dont sit and put the hip tracker on your back for better oculus hybrid vive tracking
rough pulsar
Much less so with v2 since the sensors work a little differently.
coarse rock
^ Yeah, I used the 2018 trackers w/ oculus, I actually rarely had tracking loss due to me moving my controller close to the tracker
vocal shard
if you sit a lot it will happen
coarse rock
I guess at that point it depends on your playspace
tawny ore
Elemental I'm gonna be using a Rift S with vive trackers soon xD It will be a glorious mess
vocal shard
just get an index
coarse rock
Shouldn't be that bad tbh
tawny ore
Shove that index up your many places
coarse rock
lmao, dawg not everyone can drop 1k
rough pulsar
As I understand it, the v1 trackers are just looking for two different length pulses of light, one for the timer reset/sync, and one for the laser sweep. The v2's can get some amount of data on the laser beam itself.
coarse rock
I feel like he'd tell someone new to vr to get an index
tawny ore
I actually, genuinely do not like the knuckles on the index. And the screen - I could take it or leave it.
rough pulsar
Have you tried them?
tawny ore
I have and I was not a fan; the fingers sometimes get stuck in weird positions
And they don't feel durable
rough pulsar
Oh they're durable as fuck
tawny ore
Perhaps I had some potato version then
coarse rock
I punched my wall while playing blade & sorcery in fb lmao
tawny ore
xD
coarse rock
my wall had a small dent my controllers didnt
rough pulsar
And the finger thing is poor calibration, when swapping from one person to another they either need to have the calibration gesture done, or totally power-cycled to re-run the power-on calibration.
coarse rock
I usually have to power cycle mine a couple times a day, but they turn off in literally 2 seconds
and turn back on in 2 seconds
rough pulsar
Unless you tried the some of the dev versions like the EV3 which don't have quite as good finger tracking & detection compared to the DV/release models.
tawny ore
To be fair, I have really, really got used to Oculus Touch controllers and honestly I do not see utility in the use of latter 2 fingers in my hand
coarse rock
I'd say the knuckles are like the touch controllers on crack
rough pulsar
For vrchat, no.
For other games, you'd be surprised.
tawny ore
Perhaps but the only other game I play in VR uses a HOTAS, not VR controls ๐
rough pulsar
With all the additional finger data throwing mechanics can be improved massively
hardy crystal
Anyone else having trouble loading in?
tawny ore
Yes; work is stopping me from playing VRC
coarse rock
Something I must say I'm pretty hyped for is Boneworks.
One of the reasons I'm glad to have the Index
coarse rock
lmao you heard of boneworks?
tawny ore
Nope
vocal shard
Knuckles controllers and Pavlov once you can get use to throwing things.
Beat saber i get higher scores than with vive controllers
I get more consistent 100+ point swings and dont need to worry about my controller slipping
vale palm
smt up with vrc? cant spawn into worlds
sacred drift
Not been on today, sorry canโt confirm
winged thistle
worked fine for me a bit earlier
warped flume
works fine for me @vale palm
winged thistle
also, how do you clean the Index face gasket? just wash it with some warm water and a bit of soap?
tawny ore
I just put my entire HMD in the dishwasher (this is a joke)
Nah, I actually put my face in the dishwasher.
vale palm
weird, its stuck at initializing world, twice, for 30s each before it loads me into a world
rough pulsar
@winged thistle i just wipe mine with a damp cloth then let it dry. It shouldn't need as much cleaning as the vive foam since it's apparently made of some fancy antimicrobial material.
winged thistle
mkay
well I do sweat a lot during Beat Saber
so, for the Vive I had the covers and cushion from vrcover.com
which I just swapped out and washed when I was done with a session
true lodge
I have a warning
pure hemlock
My index controllers are getting sent back for a refund since the joystick slowly stopped working properly on the Y axis over time playing VRChat
vestal pier
Their joystick is a shitshow.
i cant wait for hardware revisions
so i can finally pick one up!!
pure hemlock
It was hard to click while tilted but I could live with that. Getting stuck running forward or backward in vrchat constantly since it wouldn't reset to zero... :/
And the finger tracking didn't work very good tbh in any games I tried. While it tracked each individual finger pretty good, if I were to open up all my fingers at once, each finger would open at different times and rates in game.
So it ended up mostly just being a digital thing instead of analog where it was really just good enough to know if a specific finger was closed or extended but anything in between was random depending on the finger
vocal shard
Iโd say the vive controllers are the best, however theyโre so likely to break that I canโt possibly give them praise. Not worth the money Iโve spent on em
winged thistle
I've luckily didn't have any real techinical issues with the Knuckles so far. the only problem I personally have with them is the way the strap sits on my hands, the point where the elastic band connects to the strap digs into my hands and kinda restricts blood flow which makes them really uncomfortable so I had to tape some foam to them to distribute the pressure more...
all of which could've been avoided if Valve wouldn't have cheaped out on the amount of padding there
pure hemlock
Yah I had some comfort issues at first but after a week of playing around with them I got it to fit just right and it wasn't a problem anymore
winged thistle
the finger tracking can be a bit iffy at the beginning of each game session but they adapt rather quickly in my experience
well I've used them for a few weeks now and I still can't do without the extra padding
vestal pier
The finger tracking does learn as you play right?
pure hemlock
It adapts quickly on a finger by finger basis but if you try slowly opening your entire hand, you'll just see each finger opening at very different times and at varying rates
winged thistle
it does, yeah
pure hemlock
No
winged thistle
and my grip always slowly changes over the course of a session so sometime I have to turn the controllers off and on again with the new grip so they adjust for that
pure hemlock
After like 2 weeks it would track my fingers fine right as I put them on, as long as I put them on the same way everytime
winged thistle
I thought they reset everytime you turn them on and initialize depending on the way you grip them when they're booting up
that's the feel I get from it at least
and then they slowly adapt over the course of the session
ยฏ_(ใ)_/ยฏ
also I wish they would've used a different material that doesn't attract finger prints like crazy for the front cover of the headset >_>
rough pulsar
Valve did release 3d files for a frunk cover so you could have a replacement printed that's not so shiny.
languid beacon
I wish they wouldโve kept the EV2 design of 5 individual sensors
And not done the whole dynamic calibration thing
winged thistle
oh well, Valve is just a small indie company, they're still learning. Kappa
coarse rock
I vinyl wrapped my frunk piece
winged thistle
where are those STLs @rough pulsar ?
nevermind, found them
well, the visor would be a pain in the ass to print with a FDM printer because of the shape
I like that they made all the CADs openly available
now who wants to design a strap for the controllers that allows for more padding? :3
frozen kestrel
did you sit on it?
vocal shard
hellu, sorry if this was asked before but how do i change the keybind for push to talk?
snow wadi
You can't change the keybind.
snow wadi
Np
brisk bone
Waiting for the day Valve actually decides to sell shipments to retail stores for Canada, Norway, Switzerland like ๐ด
stoic halo
vestal pier
enjoy fbt for all 3 days that u use it ๐
slate plinth
how them E-boy be lookin like ๐คก
hollow breach
;;
snow wadi
First update to my Armacham Technologies world is complete!
winged thistle
so, playing Beat Saber at 120Hz is definitely a different experience
rough pulsar
Crank that baby up to 144 ๐ญ
winged thistle
but looks like the fit is not quite right yet, the gasket left a nice red imprint on my forehead
should the back of the strap be more towards the middle back of the head or more towards the top?
rough pulsar
Generally higher up than you'd think
winged thistle
okay, that'd explain it then
cause I had it like in a straight line with the headset
rough pulsar
I've always found the straps to be more comfortable the lower down the back of my head they are, but that's probably just me.
winged thistle
yep, the DAS was actually very comfortable
but again the padding on the gasket with the Index is way too thin
and whose bullshit idea was it to make the part where the gasket touches the nose WITHOUT any padding at all?!
rough pulsar
You don't have to have it on very tight either.
winged thistle
some people have bigger noses like me, and the headset is basically resting on just the bridge of my nose
rough pulsar
I found the vive/pro wanted to be on fairly firmly, but the index doesn't quite need the same amount of squish so the thinner foam isn't an issue.
winged thistle
damn so far vrcover.com only has slip on covers for the Index
compact river
you have problems with the pads?
winged thistle
yeah, they're too thin for my liking/not existing where tehy should be
but maybe I'm just holding wearing it wrong
compact river
never felt it touch my nose before
winged thistle
well, it's sitting on mine. same with the Vive
I guess I do have a slightly bigger nose than the average person
guess it's a whole re-learning phase for teh next few days, again
but the glare is really harsh at times... like the Beat Saber start screen is blindingly glaring
compact river
i have noticed glare in vrchat but that was because a pure white avatar that was glowing in a very dark room
not in beat saber tho
winged thistle
well I like everything except for the fact that it uses an LCD panel and lenses basically. the blacks are so washed out and bright things are glaring
vocal shard
Yeah no true black
winged thistle
but I guess I knew that going into it...
rough pulsar
Ooo, if your blacks are really washed out you might have the vive colour correction bug
winged thistle
vrchat as a whole felt kinda washed out/lacking in contrast
rough pulsar
That could also be shitty post-processing
winged thistle
what do?
compact river
ya for mine it has to be really extreme before i have problems
tawny ore
Soul speaks 
rough pulsar
Try completely removing and re-installing steamvr
Do an uninstall from Steam, then check the install location to see if there's any leftovers and wipe them too, then reinstall
winged thistle
mmkay
compact river
my steam vr is 100% bugged out after the last update
rough pulsar
The blacks on the Index are really good for an LCD panel. Not quite OLED but a hell of a lot better than other LCD HMDs I've used
winged thistle
okay then something is definitely wrong with my setup, cause the black parts were more grey than anything
also delete C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\steamapps\common\SteamVR ?
rough pulsar
Yup
winged thistle
yay downloading 1.6gig with 4MB/s >_>
god I hope at the new place I'll have at least a few 100 mbit downstream
ruby needle
"a few" honestly a 50k downstream and 10k upstream is more then enogh.
winged thistle
not for me
I'm theoretically paying for 40mbit down
which I only get when nobody else around this area is at home because screw LTE
winged thistle
according to taskmanager it's using 43mbit atm
but it's unstable as hell
like speeds will vary from 10mbit to 40 depending on weather, how many people are in this LTE cell, and the constellation of the planets
because the only ISP available here is too lazy to do proper landlines in all of the homes here
yet I'm paying 34โฌ/month for this service...
ruby needle
LTE Home network?
winged thistle
yes
ruby needle
The biggest joke on the planet, but lets not dive into that.
winged thistle
yep. technically it's an ADSL/LTE hybrid, but ADSL is only like 10mbit max at best
okay, steamvr is redownloaded, time for room setup I guess...
winged thistle
wait a second... @rough pulsar is that right that it stored my room setup?
rough pulsar
That too
winged thistle
Murder 2 map still looks pretty washed out imo
ยฏ_(ใ)_/ยฏ
but adjusting the strap position did help a bit with the comfort I think
languid beacon
Many existing games were designed around oled headsets. Give it time and people will make games that look better on lcd headsets.
tough mural
Hey everyone I need some help regarding vrchat itself
It doesnโt let me load in
And I think it might be the servers being weird because itโs only doing this to me..
languid beacon
Many vr games use very dark scenes just because they can be pretty immersive on oled displays. Games will do this less often once lcd is the norm so games will stop looking washed out
odd radish
anyone know why i keep spawning in the hyperdimension of ozicom world when i open vrc?
its not my home btw
tough mural
And I tried downloading a VPN on my computer and I found out that vrchat only works when I change my ip so it has to do with my location
languid beacon
If thatโs what youโre loading into then itโs your home
tough mural
@odd radish it happens to me too
I never spawn in my home
And now I canโt load into vrchat
languid beacon
Just get a new end point connection and you wonโt need a vpn
odd radish
also why doesnt emotes work on mirrors
tough mural
How do I do that @languid beacon ?
languid beacon
Unplug your router for 30 seconds, typically
tough mural
Ohh okay let me try
languid beacon
Pengle certain properties donโt show in mirrors, mainly material change if done on the default animator (directly on gestures) this can be solved by not putting material swap properties directly on hand gestures
If the usual change is done via shader it should show in the mirror, or if you just show a different model with the different material that will work too. If material change isnโt the problem, let me know
tough mural
It still doesnโt work
I tried unplugging my router and stuff but it still doesnโt load in
polar elm
Check the router settings.
tough mural
How?
vocal shard
What
hardy garden
anyone else getting this problem where your hands randomly go into fist gesture?
crimson bridge
No, but is anyone else forced to use the website to check when friends are online or not?
tidal meadow
no not so far
crimson bridge
Because in order for me to update my friends list, I have to either favourite everyone, or restart my game.
tidal meadow
hmm yeah idk
crimson bridge
I don't know either. Kind of why I'm asking for an alternate to either of those.
iron brook
Gotta love joining a beautiful world and trying to explore while people are talking about IP stressors and spamming high pitched frequencies in chat
candid acorn
dumb question. How can one open vrchat in deskop mode, without unplugging my headset, and without using the option in the steam library? I want to launch from the install directory, from a link, or hell, just from the "build and test" button in unity, in desktop mode. But it seems like launching from steam with the "launch in desktop mode" option is the only obvious way
mighty cradle
smol problem
VRC is telling me I need to "wait to be unlocked" before I can upload content and choose avatars from private worlds
and, er... I am known, and I have 1400+ hours.
iron brook
@mighty cradle do you use a Steam or a VRChat account?
mighty cradle
Steam. Gonna get to trusted here.
iron brook
From what I've read you do need to use a VRChat account even if you are running the game through Steam ๐ฆ
mighty cradle
rip
iron brook
F in chat
mighty cradle
my hopes and dreams, shattered /s
candid acorn
cant you link accounts?
mighty cradle
meh, it's just a skimpy dragon girl
iron brook
On the bright side it only took me a few hours in game over a day or two to get to where I can upload.
mighty cradle
i can, but i choose not to even make a VRC account
iron brook
True enough
mighty cradle
I wanna be a trusted steam user
iron brook
I don'
mighty cradle
praise volvo
iron brook
t know if that's possible but maybe one of the team members will?
mighty cradle
i was told i can't get known without VRC account
now I have known, and no VRC account
iron brook
I'm not 100% sure but that's what I've heard.
vocal shard
@crimson bridge ovrtoolkit is really good for seeing your browser
Could be one solution. But it does cost something like 13$ on steam
still lark
I'd say it worth it for how much some people use it. lol
vocal shard
Have a joke in my group where we just randomly spout out the date and our battery life like some horrible ad lol. But yeah itโs pretty good, having an improved Rolex in game is useful, along with the desktop interaction
torn nebula
ovr toolkit is great but if you just need time and battery you can use ViveBatteryInfo
@mighty cradle you can rank as a steam acct but you won't be able to log in with the sdk and upload. it's probably possible to get trusted, but it's really slow if you're not uploading from anecdotal reports
vocal shard
Ovrtoolkit looks cleaner, but yeah, vbi is a good free alternative. Still think the desktop ability with toolkit is well worth it
God the vive keyboard is atrocious. I can finally send messages and do things on my desktop without taking an hour
jovial spire
is anyone know Shyshy
mortal girder
alright so my game is broken again, with vrchat displaying everyone as errors and the icon pictures just say no image. how would i fix this?
vocal shard
Try clearing cache maybe
slate verge
simply restart vrchat if that happens
muted patio
Hi
wintry summit
im so bored
wintry iron
anyone wanna play vrchat and duel in a yugioh world
vocal shard
you have to play one by one cv or yugi 1st bruh,..
rigid crescent
https://puu.sh/E6bq8/e30752db88.png owo a 9k peak
craggy comet
z
vocal shard
You know what I love?
Being kicked from rooms for having conversations with people and getting DDOSed.
I have never seen a worse community in VRChat until recently.
rigid crescent
its not recent at all 
inner cape
owlboys' name looks like an OwO peeking from a corner
I hate myself
inner cape
what have I done
wise perch
ehehehehe
UwU
cosmic delta
vocal shard
the amount of trusted users crashing people is incredible..
particle usage should be completely banned or heavily limited
meager solstice
@vocal shard yeah that will not sit well with the community
Considering there r multiple ways to crash someone
umbral reef
Then use the particle limiter and you got exactly what you wanted
meager solstice
^ or use the saftey settings
But adding the particle limiter to the game like the dynamic bone limiter would be a good idea
umbral reef
Its already a thing, just has to be done manually
polar jasper
winged thistle
okay they really need to come out with thicker face gaskets for the index... I just noticed that the bridge of my nose is actually resting against the frame of the lenses, and I've already pushed them as far out as possible...
rough pulsar
I personally haven't noticed a difference, but some people have said the replacement/spares you can order are a little bit thicker. Might be worth picking a pair of them up? Also good to just have a spare set so you can swap out every so often or when one gets all moist after a long intense session.
winged thistle
yeah I kinda wanna wait and see if like vrcover.com or any other site comes out with their aftermarket versions
elfin cloak
hallo
i have some question's that's really bother and annoying me about vr thing's:
1 why steamVR doesn't support other VR-headset's and other motion tracking controllers like Leap motion
2 why steamVR allow's external application to communicate with steamVR ?
3 and why "MI" VR smartphones are not supported by steamVR,
because we all know that MI technology are integrated into OCULUS and VIVE headset's
rough pulsar
All of these things are very possible with SteamVR, you just need the appropriate driver software for it.
elfin cloak
leap for example and mi smartphones drivers can not be found on steam store
rough pulsar
https://github.com/SDraw/driver_leap
Uses a Leap Motion for controller emulation with finger tracking
You're very unlikely to find stuff like that on Steam
A very commonly used SteamVR Plugin, OpenVR Advanced Settings isn't on Steam.
snow wadi
To put simply : Those are not OFFICIALLY supported by Steam VR.
rough pulsar
All that really means is if you have any trouble Steam support are probably just gonna say uninstall them and see if that clears up whatever problem was happening.
elfin cloak
i thought so
so there is no general steamVR drivers for mentioned devices that will directly resolve communication problem between computer-vr external devices and steamVR
so all of them mostly are not available (not exist) or there is external apps that can resolve that problem
but they are wary poor build or there is limited free apps that can provide much better tracking but with full gold pro apps they can be wary efficient
rough pulsar
Also, what do you mean by "MI" VR/technology?
elfin cloak
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oculus_VR
and there is many proof about similar things
rough pulsar
... proof of what?
elfin cloak
they are working together
and they depending of each other
cause it's mixed hardware and knowledge
snow wadi
Xiaomi? That's mobile.
elfin cloak
yup it is
just like oculus and other vr things that's they based on MI tech
snow wadi
And you're wondering why SteamVR doesn't support it?
You pretty much answered your own concern.
elfin cloak
of Corse it is weird right?
rough pulsar
Searching for MI VR just pulls up stuff about Xiaomi MI which is some mobile VR system
elfin cloak
yes u are right
snow wadi
Just like Gear VR, Oculus Go and so forth, they are NOT supported.
elfin cloak
they MUST do something about it
othervise it's really shame of them
rough pulsar
You might be able to get somewhere with vridge or riftcat (no idea what it is these days)
snow wadi
There is no shame, the hardware does not support the PC VR titles.
I think what happened was that you did not do your research before making a purchase, and now you've realized your mistake.
Steam VR never supported mobile VR.
umbral reef
Also its the hardware that has to support SteamVR
Not SteamVr the hardware
snow wadi
^
elfin cloak
vridge is wary crappy one cause free version give 10 minutes
but if you set up ,calibrate,wait for game to be loaded and connection can be slow
you got only 5 minutes of playing
which is wary unfaire of them
at least they can give 20 minutes
which will be faire
but paid version i dont want to buy
because in my case it's impossible
snow wadi
Your first mistake was buying that headset.
elfin cloak
yes
but i don't have so much money
so i am forced to do that
snow wadi
No you weren't forced, you could have saved up for at least even a WMR headset.
Wait how much did you pay for the Mi VR?
elfin cloak
plus there is no popular steamvr supported vr headsets,trackers and controllers in my country
and buying them online are wary risky in my country
it's a big gamble if you ask me
snow wadi
Which country are you from?
elfin cloak
i spent for MI smartphone,ipega 9023,leap,fullhd webcam 400e
and only smartphone is only 250e
snow wadi
Don't tell me you bought the phone for SteamVR...
elfin cloak
Beancan region
it's not reach country and lot of people living like oof (boring normal non digital life)
and mostly tech brought from Europe are pretty useless,not popular
with poor quality.
and if something is really worth it to our country price is doubled
so htc vive that cost 300 or 400 in my country will be like 6 or 800
plus not to mention that i need to upgrade my pc
so in total it will be like 1200e
it's pretty bad right?
umbral reef
Might eb work buying the quest then if you also need to upgrade your pc and all
elfin cloak
yes i buy mi 8 lite for steam vr only
and i turn him into gaming machine
and rooted him deinstall some crap and turn off every his communication to outside world
so it can much les iradiate and process better gaming experience
plus i extend battery life
snow wadi
Yeah sorry to break it to you but you really wasted your money, you could have gotten a WMR headset instead.
They cost around 200 bucks cheapest.
But if your PC is weak then that's a whole other issue.
elfin cloak
yea it's pretty easy to say then done
because just for what i mention
it was taking 3 years to buy all of it
i know...those hardware's are cheep but in my situation
it is how it is
(i have my reason's why it took's so long to buy all of it)
yeah...maybe
๐ฆ
ruby needle
Honestly, it was stupid.
Insted of buying a VR Headset for a PC you buy a Phone which isnt even ment to be used with a PC.
And you know that.
elfin cloak
yeah i know
but i have no choice
caause for me it's mission impossible
ruby needle
We have talked so much about this, you're comming here so often.
snow wadi
Wait, he did this before?
ruby needle
NPF comes here all the time.
snow wadi
Yikes...
ruby needle
This isnt going to change NPF
elfin cloak
yes i know but what can i do
since that you now know all my story
ruby needle
Why do you keep bringing it up then?
You're sooooo often comming here and ask for help with things that arent even supposed to work.
snow wadi
Ok look NPF, the bottom line is SteamVR is for PC and PC only. You should have known better.
And the fact that you spent your savings...on a phone for VR? That was a horrible decision.
You could have kept saving for just a little while longer and would have gotten an Oculus Quest.
You spent 400 Euros on all that while just saving a little more, you would have gotten the Quest.
slate verge
a wmr is the least you could've target it
slate verge
focus on building a medium gaming pc and then looking into vr
snow wadi
That's why I mentioned the Quest.
elfin cloak
well
yes i'm boring and i come to this discord channel and saying
almost sae things all over again
but listen...
tbh
if i'm in deferent situation and country
i will talk with you fpaul and other people about flowers,nice anime girl's
and we all together will enjoy in vr :)
but this is my reality you know...
and i can't change it
so i'm deal with this
and after every 10 minutes in vr i need to logoff from vrchat and back on again
ruby needle
But we can't change it either, no matter how often you come here.
slate verge
you have to change yourself
snow wadi
There are people I know who live in worse conditions in terms of availability in tech but they solved it by saving up for the PC and VR or just getting the quest.
slate verge
the quest very accessible for new comers with no pc
snow wadi
YOU however, rushed it.
elfin cloak
yeah because now i know
i was just wondering is there is something
...you know something...
some app,hardware hack or bonus hardware or some good step by step guide about how i can set my existing hardware to work properly with steam vr
snow wadi
Did you know it took me 2 weeks just to DECIDE to buy my first VR, the Lenovo Explorer? I wanted to be certain I made a good purchase and in the end I did. It's a DAMN good headset.
Now I got the Rift S and passed the explorer to a friend who never tried VR. I never heard from him again... >_>
He's enjoying it that much lol
slate verge
lmao
snow wadi
serious note I spoke with him 2 nights back and he's over the moon with the experience so far with VR.
elfin cloak
me take's 2 month's
to chose the best vr capable smartphone that is cheapest but also powerful
snow wadi
And he likes the explorer, says it's easy to pack up and move around when changing locations.
ruby needle
you knew even earlier then that time that a Phone isnt gonna be the thing you need. So why have you still gone for it?
snow wadi
He's using a pretty OP laptop so his moving is ever easier.
Wait you WARNED him about it as well?!
ruby needle
Im not joking when i say he comes here all the time. 
snow wadi
NPF I'm really sorry for saying this but are you daft?!
wise perch
pffahahaha
snow wadi
That's like saying "Don't fire the gun at your foot, it's going to hurt alot" fires anyway
elfin cloak
ah...i wish it's little deferent but i have no choice
it's useless mission impossible
because of the mentioned situation
elfin cloak
well if i live in deferent country and if i'm wary reach
i would prefer to buy vr sense
now that is vr of future
snow wadi
Oh sweet mother of jesus....
slate verge
i have no idea.
lunar cloak
elfin cloak
oof wrong thing
this is the right one
https://www.xsens.com/press-releases/xsens-launches-new-full-body-motion-capture-system-featuring-wireless-motion-trackers/
dead seriouse
๐
elfin cloak
but the only one drawback for that device is
that it doesn't have long range wireless charging mechanism
but's it's ok cause nothing is perfect right?
๐
ruby needle
the main drawback is that... it isnt anything for vr. its just a mocap suite.
elfin cloak
but mocap suite is like vr
because mocap capture's motion movement
so it's vr right?
ruby needle
absolutely not at all
elfin cloak
how come?
ruby needle
mocap suits are for capturing animation sets for 3d animation
usually not even ment for realtime usage
elfin cloak
but it also captures human movement
elfin cloak
i'm confused
ruby needle
for animation creation
like movies or such
or game animations
but not real time tracking for vr
allthough it might work if it is realtime capapble
it has nothing to do with vr by it self
elfin cloak
well we all see that when that person move the vr body skeleton is also move's
at the same real time
right?
elfin cloak
snow wadi
ruby needle
Im not gonna continue, its pointless. Its a mocap suite for animation apliance wether its movie, game animations or not.
This is not intendet for vr at all, neither the price now the base idea behind it. While it might be exploited thats not the fild these things are made for.
And with that im out.
snow wadi
I give up, I'm going to work on my world.
elfin cloak
as you say so
it's fine by me
umbral reef
A sytsem used for actual live useage where live calculations have to be applied is nothing close to a suit used to record muscle and movement data to give animations an easy plane to work on.
So no, its not a VR capture thing at all
elfin cloak
alright alright
you convince me about that tech
but still...
i'm a little bit skeptical about that
nah...
it's ok
just forget about it
indigo yacht
has anyone come up with idea how to fix analog fist index controller problem from steam vr bindings ?
pastel galleon
I think tupper or some other user posted a temporary solution for it in a canny post about it
indigo yacht
i tried rebinding my index controllers but couldnt get fist to be controller it still closes fully when doing fist i remeber it was possible to control on oculus and vive tho
tidal meadow
@everyone I love you all
tidal meadow
vocal shard
Awwe, nice to spread the love 
Just for future reference, pinging everyone is usually seen as bad discord etiquette, since in a normal situation it would send a notification to everyone on the server. Luckily that is disabled here.
Hope you have a good day ^^
tacit parrot
how to stop hackers from crashing vrchat? i have avatar and voice enabled only on all ranks
ruby needle
there is only limited thigns you can do
use the particle limter, and the performance limits
tacit parrot
where is that option? never saw it once
ruby needle
the particle limiter is a manual thing, look it up on the website.
tacit parrot
ok will check it out thanks
tacit parrot
ok but, how not to feel desynced and disconnected from reality?
coarse rock
whatcha mean?
tacit parrot
like it feels like things dont exist there anymore so cant pick them up or interact with them
but its not that bad as written
but still kinda weird
viral quail
Do you guys think the Vrchat Team would take suggestions? I just had an idea and was wondering if i should share it.
ruby needle
sure, there is a whole feature request cathegory on the canny where you can request features or give suggestions
ruby needle
west vine
i'm bored i am going to try to get a model of mine into vrchat
xD
or does anybody here do conversion requests/commissions ?
viral quail
Thank you very much for the help!
west vine
like i model myself but i know my stuff is to high poly
restive orbit
i just got FBT it works but it keeps making my avatar non-existent, help?
final vale
where does vrchat store the photos taken by the camera?
ruby needle
im the pictures folder
stuck abyss
UwU hedoood
sly sandal
What do you guys do in VR? I'm curious
desert stratus
depends. on vrc i talk to people and sometimes do activities that are either social or world-based. my main two games i play atm other than vrc are pavlov and beatsaber. id like to use vr for sculpting, but for now i put the headset on sometimes just for everyday use such as working or even entertainment. id like to use it more often but my PC is too slow and the headset too uncomfy atm
if i had an index and an updated PC it would be a diff story
why? you thinking about getting vr @sly sandal ?
desert stratus
it is uwu
havent had the chance recently due to ambitions and wrestling with s ch ool, but will change soon
vocal shard
Hi. Someone can help me ? I can't publish the avatar that i choosed on Unity to my VRChat. Help me please
inner cape
need more detail
desert stratus
@vocal shard what ghosto said, we dont know much about ur issue. what specifically stops you from publishing?
vocal shard
I can screen this
desert stratus
aight, good choice
be advised that theprimary channels (this one and all others in this category) dont let media be directly uploaded
link me the image when you have it
also for future endeavors, refer to #avatars-2-general or an appropriate channel in its category for assistance in content creation or technical help
wintry iron
someone needs to recreate captain look in vrchat
wintry iron
captain look its a sea of theives meme
dapper tinsel
Wat
final zodiac
Anyone ever had someone on Desktop take your pen in Presentation Room while you were using it (in VR) then your controller vibrates until you exit and re-enter the world?
Made me want to yell
rigid crescent
damn that still happens?
final zodiac
Yeah had it today
hushed drift
besides blender, what software can i use to make animations my custom avatars?
slate verge
@desert stratus when are you gonna visit me
slate verge
okies good, its been ages
desert stratus
yeye
hushed drift
is there any particular reason the vrchat sdk cant be used with unrealengine?
or is it just kind of a hassle/pointless to also port it over
when there is already unity
hushed drift
ah
assuming an sdk were to be made for unreal, that other platform wouldnt offer any real benefits over just unity anyway would it, strictly comparing unreal and unity i mean
rigid crescent
not sure if thatd even work
vestal pier
It doesnt work for unreal because they are two entirely seperate engines
the benefits would be hard to say because it wont come with alot of negatives too
cant know till its done
which it wont be
uneven sigil
i have 126 hours on vrchat ๐ฎ
hollow breach
1.5k hours
tribal maple
oh god i only have 83
lunar shell
410 hours, 400 in front or a mirror. 
remote adder
Only got myself 95 hours. 95 hours of using a soundboard.
rigid crescent
still lark
Get 3939 ๐
rigid crescent
that should take about 50 days or so at my current rate of playing
torn nebula
Keep in mind that just because the number is high doesn't mean you were active all that time. Some people will log in in desktop mode while working on things, or sleep in vr...
rigid crescent
like 90% of mine was active for sure, I never really chilled in desktop unless i was logging in to test an avatar for like a second
west vale
any good servers to go on
rigid crescent
servers wat
west vale
any i just want somthing funny to happen
rigid crescent
are you talking about discord servers i dont even understand
"servers" is pretty vague
west vale
vrchat servers
meager solstice
like vrchat discord servers?
rigid crescent
oh they mean worlds i guess
west vale
yeah sorry
rigid crescent
no, funny stuff just kinda happens in the moment, yo ucan't really just go somewhere where funny stuff is
meager solstice
top 1 is the greatpug
remote adder
I've heard other people talking about them having voice issues in game as well so it's not just you. I don't have any issues at the moment. Apart from lag. But that's probably just my computer.
mighty cradle
i got a feeling it is for me
vocal shard
Hey, iโve been having a problem where all my avatars, custom or from worlds, have their arms bent forward when my hands are at my side. Idk how to fix it
slender radish
ะฟัะธะฒะตั
heavy badger
mighty cradle
wonder if I can point out abusive users here
although I'm more interested in how the crap I deal with this zyxel pos
wise perch
abusive users? how do you mean?
mighty cradle
someone grabbing an IP for DoS
wise perch
ooh.
mighty cradle
decided to be persistent and hunted him down
and let him have more fun
all the while being smug about him saying "you should've done better things with your life"
well, besides the fact his apparent "knowledge" is being wasted on DoSing players out of a game... ยฏ_(ใ)_/ยฏ
and I've been spending my days doing actual work.
slate verge
Report him if its you
mighty cradle
oh, he did poke me
I'm gonna be contacting my ISP to tell them to check network logs
slate verge
Iirc name call outs are not allow so ye and thats good
mighty cradle
report him if it's me tho? what
wise perch
report him if youre the one being ddosed, is what she meant.
or at least, thats what Im gathering.
slate verge
Yes
slate verge
Grab evidence ye
mighty cradle
they were also being a little shit too
"do you have a mic?", person shakes head
then continues to relentlessly ask them "what about now, do you have a mic?"
told him the answer he already knew, "you need to shut up", and then DoS
slate verge
The world is filled with many weird people
mighty cradle
many people whose life is so sad and depressing that they have to resort to feeling superior in some way
slate verge
Yeah that is sad
mighty cradle
problem is: I know that, if I had an OpenWRT router on hand (as I've been pestering dad about), I could've already told him back his IP, and just stood there during the would-be attempted DoS.
And then possibly attach Tor to Steam Voice next time.
Do wonder tho if they're thinking of breaking in
slate verge
Using their knowledge to pick on and possibly worse target people in vrc, a video game
mighty cradle
yeh
while ignoring the chances of running into some potentially skilled black hat
who could go back and "finish the job"
inner cape
tips fedora nothing personel
slate verge
That makes me questioning if the blocking feature in vrc will even you protect cuz then you still appear on the social list
mighty cradle
it seems ip grabbing hooks to steam voice
slate verge
Oh okay so....just dont talk at all?
mighty cradle
ยฏ_(ใ)_/ยฏ
vestal pier
If they are also using steam it's still sending the steam voice, best to just launch the game without steam
mighty cradle
disconnecting it means also not hearing anyone else
vestal pier
Not true
mighty cradle
and the game literally relies on steam voice as a protocol
so basically, even if non steam, still has steam voice
because that's what it uses, in and out of steam
mighty cradle
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vestal pier
Steam is free to use which is why they use it when possible
Valve also just updated it so you can't grab ips
It's down to vrchat to update it into the game
mighty cradle
then why is there talk of steam voice?
mighty cradle
And how does IP grabbing work via that?
vestal pier
Via steam?
It's peer to peer, it's essentially handing your ip to the person
Because that's how you connect
I think photon has a similar but more convoluted issue but I can't remember
mighty cradle
No, outside Steam
still lark
Photon only has crash/logout/etc issues.
vestal pier
That's it
mighty cradle
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vestal pier
Theoretically photon is always running behind steam anyway because you need to be able to hear people who aren't using steam
So your best bet is just no steam
meager solstice
a good place to look is in the #community-servers-old in a server called VRC Traders
vestal pier
@vocal shard what are you after?
astral halo
This isnโt really some kinda answer I think support might answer but anyone know how I can prevent doxxers and people from getting private info?
Would be nice to kinda talk about it in the dm ๐
jovial pulsar
@turbid torrent No way, is it from the original creator?
I'm in there now, I'm kinda afraid that it might be a rip from the cache though, considering how the windows and the lighting is a bit weird.
The lighting is bad, but it's still the old shrine. I'll just ask Root ont witter.
Don't want to get my hopes up just to have em take it away again T_T
vocal shard
jovial pulsar
@turbid torrent Thanks for telling me btw, no idea how you knew that it was my favorite map, but ayy
smoky kelp
is anyone else having any issues signing in?
I can't select any buttons on the login screen, nothing works
jovial pulsar
@turbid torrent Apparently it was an illegal copy judging from Rootgentle's tweet.
vestal pier
@turbid torrent u smell
I just realised I pinged mycelium and it might not even be the same one I know in game
vocal shard
Excuse me, my game keep crashing about 10 minutes after I launch it
Can someone help me ?
vocal shard
Hey, iโve been having a problem where all my avatars, custom or from worlds, have their arms bent forward when my hands are at my side. Idk how to fix it
warm steppe
im not a pro at troubleshooting by any means, but try fiddling around with height maybe? fixed my leg problems with avatars i use
languid beacon
@vocal shard thatโs a problem with view position. Mostly people not putting view position at 0 on X and Z
9 times out of 10, only Yโs view position should be non-zero
vocal shard
I just got a new computer so i haven't downloaded all the unity stuff yet and i forgot to transfer over my custom avatar. anyway i can get it back? like, from vrchat or whatever?
languid beacon
If you did future proof publish, they store a unitypackage of your scene. Downloading it is not officially supported though I would contact support.
And if you Didnโt future proof publish then no as far as I am aware they do not store the uncompiled unity assets
warm steppe
RIP
glad maple
Bonjour tout le monde
vocal shard
alright lets see if i remember how to set up my avatar
just gotta do it from scratch, lmao
vocal shard
@glad maple Un franรงais !???
limber lake
Is anyone else getting kicked out of the website as soon as they log in or is it just me?
vocal shard
How would i make a tail fall with dynamic bones?
it sways and stuff just fine, but its sticking straight out from my butt
languid beacon
Pose it in its natural pose before adding dynamic bones.
vocal shard
uh, how do i do that? lmao
vocal shard
oh ok thanks. last time i set up my avatar i had to have a guy sit in a call with me for like 4 hours helping me, idrk what im doing lmao
@languid beacon that worked perfectly, thanks
vocal shard
hey guys. downloaded the game like an hour ago. had a walk around and didnt know what the f was going on lol
steady kayak
Yo @vocal shard still remember the old days in the hub and people stopping by your office In vrchat where people could ring you within vrchat for support? Do you think there will be an veteran re-union event someday in vrchat?
rigid crescent
Veteran rank, rise uuuup
I wish I could find those old memes I made, I had like two of the first Trust system memes lol
OH WAIT i can just cross reference the dates holdup
languid beacon
They need to make a rank above Vet called Legends
vestal pier
then one above that called "a"
rigid crescent
https://puu.sh/E6MGT/1ddc479788.png Oh I found it
sterile glen
I really wanna make an avatar, where its the minecraft parrot and when you press like f4 or smth it does the already dead dance with animations and stuff
but i dont have the experience to do it
rigid crescent
https://puu.sh/E6MIe/5fa9019a0f.jpg and this one
steel plume
Issues with invites into private worlds is starting to have IRL impact on people's depression and anxiety.
glad rock
Where do you guys drop asdk link to me please
still lark
@steel plume maybe they should see a professional about it
fading flower
if someones in open beta can non beta people not see them?
inner cape
correct
fading flower
ah
wise perch
theres a program that can allow psvr to work, though its a little wonky.
covert blade
The question is if he wants to run VR Chat using a PSVR headset on a PC or on a PS4
rigid crescent
Issues with invites into private worlds is starting to have IRL impact on people's depression and anxiety. Then stop being in a private room LOL
vestal pier
idk sounds like an easy solution to a complex problem
rough pulsar
The instance type I really want is friends only + instance owner approved invite requests
rigid crescent
Yeah, more customization for room types would be nice
hybrid heart
I am confused, so I logged into VRChat earlier to join back into my friend's world after crashing. I was waiting for my social to load and I saw something at the spawn it said Moderation Ban, it disappeared when I ran to go see what else it said, I have no idea what it was ๐
rigid crescent
probably nothing to worry about youd know if yo uwere banned
One issue I have with Invite+ is that I can't actually invite anyone, I have to be requested on
Being able to customize the permissions for the room though would be great, or just having better presets
rough pulsar
Who can come in: nobody | friends | friends of friends | anyone
Who can send invites: nobody | friends | anyone
Owner approved invites: yes / no
I think that covers most of it?
Although nobody is kinda more of "they can do the thing, but not without permission"
rigid crescent
Yeah, a system like that with invite requests actually being sent to the invite owner once the other person who get the initial request accepts it would be great
I think invite only says something like "You can ask the room owner to invite them" but you cant actually do that unless youre friends
mystic steeple
polar bone
rigid crescent
make an ingame anim
still lark
go in game and make an anim
astral frigate
You guys ever get to the point where you would erp to make money for a vr set?
desert stratus
hahahh, no???
astral frigate
Well it seems I'm a minority here. I'll be taking my leave now.
rigid crescent
lol paying for something readily given for free
vestal pier
I dont know how you monetize erp
rigid crescent
Maybe if the supply was lower than the demand but it's definitely not
desert stratus
e-prostitution? and yeah, it's already very popular in vrc
rigid crescent
Paying for dances maybe, but you'd already need VR at that point lol
ruby needle
forbidden stuff always gets high interest ๐
desert stratus
i guess you could also maybe sell it, but nobody's gonna buy that shit
sell it as in any recorded media of ERP
rigid crescent
I mean it's only "forbidden", it's pretty common though in a lot of circles
ruby needle
often done, still forbidden
rigid crescent
oh, i guess it is still forbidden technically
desert stratus
the real pro tactics is to just not erp at all and make money through other, valid means, or actual prostitution for a change, idk
rigid crescent
i don't even think that crosses people's minds as part of the draw though since most people seem to think "oh its all ok in private rooms"
funny enough someone i reported for being stupid and walking around in a nude avatar was in a private, and unless they checked internally, I never even said what type of room it was when i reported it and they were still banned
brisk bone
I mean they allegedly dont check whether a room is public or not. Not like it matters, it has been pretty clear since day 1 that they allegedly do not take into account when you report someone. It is surprising that they have not implemented a little watermark in the top stating whether the instance is public/friends+/private for video footage yet. I also don't think instance info is logged on entering either in the logs. Sooo, again. Best be on your best behaviour when it comes to private anyways. Anyone can rat you out.
Still find it funny that the most popular instance currently is a copyright infringement to the nth degree which usually was taken down within seconds before. Oh well, guess we are at that point.
It certainly is interesting, how far the community has come though. Looking forward to see where it goes. ๐
rigid crescent
That changed with the introduction of the community labs. Originally it was a private world you could only access via link, so it was somewhat exclusive "underground" map, but I did check with a staff member before it even entered community labs to make sure there wouldn't be any issues with it, and the answer I got was basically "we don't moderate community labs worlds unless they become a problem" or something along those lines.
brisk bone
So the map is currently in community labs?
brisk bone
Well, I don't know I just stopped reporting maps since my reports were unanswered and I was worried I was pissing them off.
rigid crescent
Probably means the maps you were reporting weren't reported enough or were found to be a non-issue
brisk bone
They don't really have a guideline on reporting maps anyways. Kinda have to point to Community Guidelines or Terms of Service which aren't really applicable in most cases.
At least not in the lane of what is acceptable or not in terms of whats inside the map.
rigid crescent
Sure they are
I can grab any random section and it's likely applicable
Hate speech, including language, symbols, and actions.
first one I scrolled to. So no swastikas, slur text, etc
Also referred to as โDoxxingโ, disclosing an individuals personal information will result in immediate account termination and actions leading up to alerting local authorities.
Another. Don't put people's private info in a world
brisk bone
Fair enough.
rigid crescent
Pornography & nudity is not allowed.
Goes without saying. nude models in your world, photos, etc
here's a new one i havent seen before, maybe i always skimmed past it https://puu.sh/E6TrT/1662f92438.png
brisk bone
Yeah, I don't know when that was put there.
TBH I don't really care about the copyright infringement thing anyways as an outsider looking at it, have fun and enjoy yourselves while it lasts. I just find it highly amusing considering the past. Again, it is just kinda silly.
I guess it has to be the target of a DMCA before actions get taken.
rigid crescent
Yeah, it'd probably just go private again if that happened. The movies are all externally hosted, so its really just a bunch of buttons with links anyway
brisk bone
True
Either way, I am happy with the development side. Soo I don't really know why I even butted in. Guess, it was my weekly 4 AM grumpiness getting the better of me. Peace.
Waiting for Index to get to retail in Norway like ๐
vestal pier
Be glad you will get the second run, hopefully they fix the controllers
rigid crescent
I need to find some cheap 2.0 wands so i can just upgrade to full 2.0 with that
not a fan of how much i see people struggle to gesture
vestal pier
On?
Index is a toggle between fingers and gestures
Just a new system that takes some getting used to
vocal shard
um....hey there
rigid crescent
You still have to perfectly do the gesture on toggle to get it to work, im not really a fan of that
vestal pier
You could rebind them
brisk bone
Second Run Index hype
rigid crescent
for me gestures trump fingers, i like the expressiveness of my face more than finger gimmicks that i have to shove in peoples face
vestal pier
Ah I forgot about facial features
rigid crescent
Oh i shoudlve specified that, yeah. my dislike of the index controllers/their implementation is pretty much a me thing
most people enjoy them, but i dont know many people who like their facial expressions as much as I do
vestal pier
Controlling that stuff with your hand has never been ideal, but I know Gallium does fine with face and fingers
rigid crescent
ive definitely noticed my friends doing less face gestures after getting them too
vestal pier
Finger tracking is the future to be fair and you have to think of applications outside of mirror simulator 9000 ๐