@spiral seal i am not really good with animation and other stuff, so yeah i doubt i would fit in these servers
#vrchat-general-2
dusk mesa
spiral seal
Idk much more than that
willow stump
@inner cape shh
vast tulip
When you all were saying Mini, I thought you meant me, but, I can't really rell @queen mango .I was reading up and I cant really find anything but petty bickering I guess? 
willow stump
watch the video lmao
spiral seal
@dusk mesa Moonlight Eden isn't all animation based, it's more like a community like ybot
dusk mesa
Whats petty bickering o.o
faint skiff
They're claiming they were doxed, but the name is literally on their Discord profile so I'm not sure that really counts..
spiral seal
They put it on there themselves lol
snow wadi
This whole debacle could have been dealt within DMs and not here.
spiral seal
Can legit just click their profile and you'll see "Spotify - Amanda Dixson"
queen mango
That would be a pretty big risk, honestly. Putting your real name leaves you vulnerable to identity thieves
willow stump
imagine doxxing yourself 😂
spiral seal
^
vast tulip
Really though, please keep arguments, especially unrelated to vrc, out of the discord and take it to DM, #rules 19
dusk mesa
My mum never gave me a real name, i was just called "kid" 
@vast tulip oh, it was about VRC idk if you saw the Video. c:
Me be quiet now
inner cape
ybots: we're chill
also ybots: comes here and starts clownery
dusk mesa
spiral seal
I don't even have a y-bot D:
dusk mesa
same
inner cape
everyone does technically kappa
dusk mesa
I just dont like the robot look as a female 😂 i like a female body and looking cute
vast tulip
so all of this started as an argument about lighting in the pug?
spiral seal
Bruh, artificial 200k polygon ass tho
inner cape
@tawny ore you lied to me, blue plebs cant use emotes here
spiral seal
Not sure, seems like it. Doesn't change the fact that she said those things lol
willow stump
@vast tulip nah she just walked in and started being really toxic for no reason
spiral seal
I mean, i met someone yesterday that said he would kill my whole family and track me down in the UK. Jokes on him, I'm Swedish 🐒
dusk mesa
Meeeatbaaalll 😍
spiral seal
That might've been his 13 beers speaking and not him though lmfao
Yes, I'm a live Ikea meatball
ivory zealot
People say a lot of dumb stuff behind the veil of the internet
faint skiff
I'll be happy once someone fixes the colour grading "white fog" issue in the Pug.
spiral seal
Guy was drunk as hell though, so whatever
dusk mesa
Well, after that what happend with the girl who met a dude on discord and he stalked her irl and killed her after i am just being careful I guess 🤷
spiral seal
ye
woven steppe
The internet makes it hard to NOT have something personal in it somewhere
inner cape
ach it's been a whole month or even more, you're still upside down
subtle trout
That wont happen @faint skiff
tranquil cobalt
What is the white fog issue? I've heard someone say that before, but I dunno what they mean. I haven't had the chance to check it out - can I see it on desktop?
faint skiff
Not sure if you can see it on desktop, but it makes the Pug outright painful to use on the Index.
subtle trout
That's a headset issue.
faint skiff
No, it's not
subtle trout
Yes, it is.
I've never had that issue with my headset.
Only select headsets have that issue..
The Index and the Vive.
Oculus does not.
faint skiff
It's a known issue due to the colour grading, it doesn't affect OLED screens as it was designed with them in mind. Other worlds (that don't have this grading set up) don't have this issue.
And no, the Vive does not have that issue in the Pug
tranquil cobalt
Oh so like the black levels are raised?
subtle trout
I've never had that issue. Ever.
tawny ore
Huehuehue @inner cape
faint skiff
@tranquil cobalt No, it's like someone's bumped up the brightness globally. Literally everything looks like it's got a faint white fog over it.
inner cape
screw you, fizz
dusk mesa
I dont see it with my Oculus either
spiral seal
Never thought of that / never had it
vast tulip
It is a headset issue. it's because the index has an LCD instead of OLED, which has better blacks then an LCD, but, you can try to minimize the white fog by having contrasting light levels near each other. setting the tone mapper to ACES helps because it brings out the contrast in things more
subtle trout
That's a headset issue... and that sounds like the dynamic lighting is causing a bloom effect.
spiral seal
Using Vive btw, might've just never thought about it
faint skiff
@vast tulip No, it's not that.
subtle trout
I guarantee this 100%
faint skiff
I can literally bring up the steam overlay and see normal colours. It's an issue with the Pug specifically.
subtle trout
I work with Physics in Unity.
spiral seal
k.
faint skiff
@subtle trout I really don't care, you have no idea what I'm talking about, clearly
tranquil cobalt
That's hella weird, I'll check it on desktop. I have a grading monitor + should be able to see it (unless he's switching post-processing based off VR or Desktop)
faint skiff
@vast tulip Other worlds are fine, it's literally just the Pug
It's not an LCD issue, it's not a "black level" issue
The whole environment has a fog, regardless of what you're looking at
faint skiff
Yes. Index.
vast tulip
have you ever seen these worlds in vive or rift (not s)
because they dont have that issue at all on those
tawny ore
Yeah I don't know what Enverex is referring to (Rift S)
faint skiff
I'm aware, as I migrated from a Vive. But my point is that all of the colours look blown out. If I switch worlds, the effect immediately disappears, as soon as it hits the loading screen it looks fine. Imaging taking a picture and then blowing up the brightness a bit in an image editor, that's what the Pug looks like. The moment you leave, it's fine.
inner cape
(not S btw)
tranquil cobalt
If that's the case, it could still not be display I suppose. I think I mentioned it before but you can get a very fogged dull look if data is transmitting within legal ranges rather than full swing
faint skiff
If it was the display, all worlds would look like this. It's literally just the pug. Other worlds, games, etc are all fine.
tranquil cobalt
Blown out? so you're seeing super bright intensities too?
faint skiff
No, it's basically like it's just "boosted" artificially somewhat. As I said, like a white fog.
still lark
Doesn't Owlboy have an Index?
tranquil cobalt
https://i.redd.it/1zj6vr32p8821.png Like this? I don't think you can override color space but possibly! Would probably help owlboy track it down
vast tulip
yes, that's because the pug is a dark world with not many contrasting colors, so its noticeable. owl has the index and owl knows it's an issue
still lark
@tranquil cobalt VRC forces linear.
faint skiff
I swear to god, you people are really testing me...
tranquil cobalt
Oh, it does enforce it? I remember trying to figure it out, and someone (I think Merlin) put together a test world to show that worlds by default use it but I wasn't sure if it was enforced
faint skiff
@tranquil cobalt Not really. That still looks... relative. This looks like an artificial fog added as a postprocessing action. I'll try and make a picture for you.
inner cape
not every argument is a personal attack, rex
you seem to unable to accept being in the wrong without taking it as an offense 
spiral seal
Aight I'm back, so y'all saying it's an index/ vive problem?
tawny ore
Remove ego from your questions when looking for help. Be prepared to be misunderstood
vast tulip
@faint skiff one thing I forgot to mention is, depending on how bad it is to you, you might need to verify the files on steam vr, or, just fully reinstall steam vr. many people have had issues with the index, especially people coming from the vive, where things looked really bad or way too blown out, even for an LCD. now, the fact that you say you see it nowhere else makes me think thats not it, but, theres always a chance it is so you might as well try that
faint skiff
@inner cape Nothing to do with personal attacks. It's repeating myself that I'm sick of. If someone tells you a car is blue, stop saying? "Maybe it's because the car is red?"
tawny ore
We're spitballing ideas Rex; for your own assessment
vast tulip
what happens is, the vive has a color profile to artificially raise the blacks so they never reach 100% black, to try and cut down on the mura, and, apparently that mura correction carried over to some peoples index use
inner cape
that's what an argument is, my guy
if you cant handle the argument, dont participate
faint skiff
@tranquil cobalt Basically like this - https://i.imgur.com/AoIB8aN.png - note that EVERYTHING has this artificial white boost, not just the blacks. And that this only happens in the Pug. Literally all the colours look like they've had this weird brightness boost applied.
@inner cape If you're not going to help, just stop.
inner cape
ofc I'm not going to, I'm on neither sides here
faint skiff
@tranquil cobalt That said, I don't think the issue carries over to the nameplates or the menu, but they are overly vivid in the first place so I'm not sure if it would be easy to tell.
inner cape
I'm just pointing out something I've noticed from multiple arguments you participated in, you get pissed off for no reason/ too easily
vast tulip
if its not on the name plate or menu, its not post processing. post processing covers those too
faint skiff
@vast tulip I know people had that issue, but if that were the case, I'd see it everywhere. Not just one world in VRC.
tawny ore
I guess the best troubleshooting idea would be to just wipe all vr software from your PC and start from scratch
In case as Mimi says - there's software bleed over
faint skiff
That magically only applies to a single world in VRChat?
faint skiff
I mean yes, people had that issue, but I can't see how it could be that when it's so limited in scope.
tawny ore
Would d3d DLL injections affect VR by the way?
faint skiff
I'd imagine so...
tawny ore
That could be an interesting experiment
faint skiff
I tried out a bunch of the "blah and sleep" worlds to make sure it wasn't a general or contrast issue and those worlds all looked fine.
tawny ore
Then the only thing I can say to that is - live and let live
faint skiff
It makes the Pug physically painful to be in though, as you can feel your eyes fighting what I imagine cataracts looks/feels like. It was one of my most visited worlds.
tawny ore
Ask the worlds creator to update it
tranquil cobalt
That screenshot looks like an approximation of what happens when you mix up broadcast levels (64-960) and data levels (0-1023). I have no idea why something like that would happen in a single world on a specific HMD tho
I just checked on desktop + I've never been on Desktop but the grade rlly does look nice - props 2 owlboy. (No fog issue tho)
woven steppe
still can't jump in it tho
inner cape
pog, ach is no longer upside down
still lark
@faint skiff Have you tried the West version of The Pug?
faint skiff
@still lark Not recently actually. I can check it later though.
still lark
Yeah, try that.
vast tulip
@faint skiff also, try other worlds you know are going to be very dark, like, maybe search for worlds with like "camping" "camp fire" in the name
and look in the areas that arent lit from the fires and stuff
woven steppe
Ain't that like the box with the walls taken down basically?
vast tulip
dont use the box
still lark
No, you want an actual world. lmao
faint skiff
@vast tulip Those are all fine. You can see the limitations of the LCD in completely dark areas, but colours and everything look fine. Basically they look as I'd expect. The weirdness with the Pug is that literally everything looks washed out, like everything's a few brightness steps above what it should be.
spiral seal
k.
faint skiff
Whoops
spiral seal
@subtle trout Teach me how to use raytracing in VRChat mommy
tranquil cobalt
https://www.lightillusion.com/img_li/data_legal.jpg https://www.lightillusion.com/img_li/legal_data.jpg Are the difference between these two images how you'd basically describe it?
faint skiff
@tranquil cobalt That's definitely a good representation, yeah.
vast tulip
@spiral seal its not possible to ray trace in vrc, what do you mean?
I agree. seems like a decent representation
cold talon
Raytracing on avatars would be pretty cool tho
But not that usefull with the current components allowed on avatars
vernal forge
cold talon
Oh no, not that kind of ray tracing
faint skiff
Given how bad they look with the standard shader, it'll just look like a creepier version of that, lol
cold talon
Rtx would be terrifying
faint skiff
@tranquil cobalt But yeah. All other worlds (and all other games I've played, including dark ones) look like picture A, Pug looks like picture B.
woven steppe
just want things to look like them figures instead of flat images where you can't discern where the chin ends and the neck begins...
tranquil cobalt
I'm leaning toward something with output dynamic range + drivers, but I have no clue why one world would be affected. It'd make sense if it was just Index seeing this if it was their drivers that had this dynamic range bug. Nvidia had a general issue with this awhile back, but it only seemed to mess it up for HDMI
cold talon
Oi no chin shaming
tranquil cobalt
https://i.imgur.com/3wLaMl3.png ez thing to fix / test if it was a monitor with a nvidia gpu but because it's vr - of course its gotta be hard haha
torn shoal
VRC hardly runs regularly, how is it gonna run with raytracing
spiral seal
@vast tulip I know, she was flaming everyone and saying that she uses raytracing on her avatar lol
faint skiff
@tranquil cobalt That option is only available when not using Direct Mode and AFAIK that was always a HDMI issue with it defaulting to the crap mode. I switched to Indirect mode and it was already set to full (the headset isn't a "display" when using Direct Mode and thus shouldn't be affected in the first place).
woven steppe
Not chin shaming, I just find it bothersome that so many models use shaders that will pretty much make the chin invisible when the neck is behind it unless the two are given slightly different colors.
spiral seal
and legit screamed at people to kill themselves for saying "That's a standard shader"
still lark
I mean, you can ray trace, it's just not worth it.
spiral seal
In VRChat you can't
Unless the devs make it possible to. In current state (and hopefully future ones) it's not possible
woven steppe
I mean it's sort of a sandbox type of game anyway where they test stuff out, might happen.
faint skiff
Can you imagine the performance hit?
torn shoal
I'd prefer if the game would be stable instead
And didn't have glaring security issues
faint skiff
"Today, we're announcing the addition of support for Ray Tracing shaders. Also, unrelated to the previous change, we are changing the framerate counter to 'frames per minute'..."
tranquil cobalt
I wonder if there's something in the drivers for Index that can force it to limited/legal depending on certain scenarios for compatibility. You'd think that'd be per-application if anything, though. Are there debug tools for Index? could probably check while in the Pug and see what's going on, maybe!
I mean you'll know eventually if it magically vanishes with a driver update too, haha
torn shoal
I doubt valve would hand out their debug tools
faint skiff
Shame you can't disable world shaders, then you could just turn that off and see if that fixes it.
woven steppe
lol... should have the same options on worlds as you do on avatars
still lark
Hmm, I could set up a test world with the same shaders if you'd like Enverex?
woven steppe
"hide animation, hide shader, hide particle, mute audio, hide world"
torn shoal
hide world
faint skiff
@still lark Do you know the exact ones it's using?
still lark
Yup
tranquil cobalt
Why wouldn't Valve hand out debug tools? We gotta develop for Index 🤔
faint skiff
@still lark Could definitely try then.
still lark
I'll see what I can whip up
woven steppe
I'd like that to be a feature TBH... it would help when trying to find friends who you want to say hi to and they're in the middle of some maze map...
"The hell are they?"
*hides world
"Oh there they are..."
faint skiff
@sudden nacelle That kinda is a thing. Public, Labs, etc...
still lark
@woven steppe Use the transparent camera. Assuming you have VR. :P
tranquil cobalt
Let me know if you guys figure it out! These things haunt me
woven steppe
that doesn't stop the maze from preventing you from getting to them
torn shoal
Let's take it to the next level. Hiding the entire game
woven steppe
It'd be like adblock but for certain assets in the game
torn shoal
"Hide Knuckles"
inner cape
uninstall vrchat
woven steppe
*blocks Tda bases
torn shoal
@woven steppe That's like blocking 95% of avatars
woven steppe
with how easy it is to install and reinstall... it makes no difference
faint skiff
Being able to block specific avatars would be a nice feature.
inner cape
sell your vr 👁
torn shoal
How about blocking people by age
woven steppe
When game takes longer to load in than the time it took you to download it...
torn shoal
Blocking all kiddos by default
woven steppe
can't be toxic to something you can't interact with
wise perch
icy tulip
I can’t even go to two worlds without crashing or everything becoming super laggy
torn shoal
I mean, my experience with kids has been terrible in this game
woven steppe
get more CPU cores... Oh wait... that doesn't help
inner cape
I gotta admit, hating on literally everything you dislike in vrchat has gotten old to me
I just dont mind anything
torn shoal
They just run around yelling profanity at everyone
icy tulip
This kid was following me around with a loud voice and doing... Kid stuff. It was annoying
faint skiff
"So pure"? lol. Running around with open mics, screaming "ni**er" and "gaylord" at everyone.
icy tulip
I just wanted to find a good avatar and I had no luck
tranquil cobalt
@faint skiff When you guys check, try testing what happens on the Index if you enable or disable 'sRGB (Color Texture)' in the import settings on the textures. This might explain the world-exclusivity of this bug
faint skiff
@woven steppe They now originate from the object itself.
icy tulip
Speaking really close to the mic, like, Mine Diamonds sound quality
I was lagging too much to even mute the person
inner cape
@sudden nacelle I just meant people talking abiut "blocking all tda bases, block certain avatars, block kiddos"
icy tulip
My cursor wouldn’t even budge
torn shoal
We're obviously joking, my guy
faint skiff
@inner cape Having your entire screen (or even the whole room) filled up with a giant minecraft or Diva character for the 5th time that hour gets really tiring. Being able to just block that avatar would stop me having to keep wasting my time..
inner cape
^
woven steppe
I'm not joking about the blocking of world assets tho. I legit want to be able to remove things that stand in the way of me and getting to where everyone is hanging out.
torn shoal
Yeah. I hate world music I can't turn off
I appreciate the thought but I don't always like your tastes
woven steppe
@sudden nacelle thank god it isn't
faint skiff
That's like the spam issue though. I can block the one person, but that's worthless when 6 other people then turn up and start doing the same thing with the same avatar (because they're 10 year old kids on desktop who think it's funny)
torn shoal
That's more of a workaround though
As I will have to re-enable it for other worlds again
Hard to do properly in VR imo. Audio levels are a problem
torn shoal
Browser?
Even then I will have to alt tab to ajust audio levels if a quiet person joins
woven steppe
send all audio to a compressor!?
woven steppe
Lies... You don't plug yourself enough to be one
torn shoal
That exists? Damn
woven steppe
inb4 ghosto suddenly gets a bunch of new follows...
inner cape
wdym why would I get follows
faint skiff
Well yeah, I think that applies to most "streamers". They think they're hot shit, but they're not hot, they're just shit.
woven steppe
*starts talking about how streamers are shit right after ghosto is revealed as as treamer...
Gee... nice chat
inner cape
I didn't say I am
faint skiff
Didn't he say he isn't?
inner cape
I just meant that looking at hand for spotify makes you look like a stramer
woven steppe
O ok
indigo fern
Streamers 🤢
woven steppe
look at somewhere else other than hand then
faint skiff
Is OVRToolkit worth it? It looks pretty handy.
woven steppe
I've seen some where "chat" isn't on the hand but they just like look up and there's the chat floating in midair
could be slightly less annoying than breaking your wrist to look at something
dusk mesa
Jawbonnnnes
faint skiff
I've found it's nice to have Twitch or something on in the background when browsing worlds and I guess it would be more convenient than bringing up the SteamVR desktop every so often.
dusk mesa
🤔
woven steppe
alright, need foods, cya'all
indigo fern
Yea it's pretty nice, one of my favorite things is you can set opacity of the windows
Snap to either hand, head, or leave it in your playspace
Not that I know of 😔
Damn, that's a good idea tho, wonder if the dev has some kind of suggestion box
still lark
@faint skiff When you able to get on?
faint skiff
@still lark I won't be home from work for another... 4 and a half hours or so yet.
faint skiff
kk
vocal shard
tawny ore
-YAW-
vocal shard
peeps be like 
be like:
ruby needle
tawny ore
Ohohohohoooo I like your style FPaul
<-- this is nice. I like this.
Also I like the fact that greenies can now use all emojis in general
makes me feel special
vocal shard
17064120 Active Particles "why do i always keep getting red lol!!!! :)"
tawny ore
That amount of particles could be used in rocket engine propulsion simulations
cold talon
well you are purploe, so shush
tawny ore
All the emojis :3
vocal shard
Or like 2 shite animations
tawny ore
I might ask my commissioner to add quintillion particles inside my avatars head and forcefield them in so nobody can see why the heck the game freaking out
ruby needle
thats basically filing a request to be banned
cold talon
already way ahead of you Fuzzout
warped bridge
i love vr chat
tawny ore
I love women, but to each their own; I guess.
vestal sleet
God damn where is my emoji book
tawny ore
tacit plank
How do you exit calibration mode? Just got FB
After pressing both triggers to confirm the pose, the avatar moves along with me, but I'm flying a bit above the ground myself, and I can't move around in game using the controller
frosty veldt
Have you tried restarting the game?
tacit plank
I will try that,thanks
frosty veldt
I had something like that before and it worked after I got frustrated and restarted. You can always test something without FBT by having the steam VR overlay open while you load into an avatar (will skit the FBT calibration)
warped bridge
dose anyone know were u can get GIANT anime avatars?
inner cape
no vore
cold talon
take normal avatar, make it giant 
warped bridge
idk how qwq
vocal shard
In unity you can scale it up. You need to upload it yourself. There are a few worlds with giant avatars, but I don't know any of them by name
warped bridge
darn it
indigo fern
best bet is to try to clone one off someone you see
indigo fern
you open your menu, point at the person and click
if they have cloning on you'll see the button available to press on the right
warped bridge
okay
cold talon
requiring people to have cloning on 
primal oak
Index squeeze grip should be analog, right? You should be able to progressively use the fist gesture like you would with for example Oculus Touch's grip button.
faint skiff
I'd imagine so. It is for me. Although there is a slight jump between "mostly closed" and "completely closed"
indigo fern
there was a change in steamvr recently
so everyones fist gesture does that
like a smooth 0% to 25% then bam its closed kinda thing
opaque hawk
Yeah, there are several cannys
rigid crescent
It's a SteamVR issue tho isnt it?
primal oak
There's gotta be some kind of way to change the steamVR bindings.
rigid crescent
or can a game set their own controller settings by default
well, not an issue, but just a setting
primal oak
Yeah but since this is a new kind of button I have no idea what to set in SteamVR
rigid crescent
yeah I don't have the controllers so I couldn't really check the settings
I know Vive has something like Click vs Press
narrow rampart
rigid crescent
I mean it's hardly broken, it's just a setting to change
primal oak
Oculus Touch you could just set the grip trigger click to none for left and right grip
Index Controllers... I have no idea where to start.
faint skiff
@indigo fern It's the other way around for me. Smooth for 90% or so, then a snap on the last bit.
rough pulsar
I've been able to fix it with my binding set, I just haven't entirely figured out why it's fixed.
vestal pier
Make a public binding galioom
faint skiff
I've never touched bindings and from what I can tell, it's correct by default isn't it? (the 90-100% snap has always happened on fist, I assumed it was deliberate)
rough pulsar
The correct way is, open hand to complete touch causes no snap, then force grip completes it.
Just needs a bindings update.
faint skiff
Yeah, that's how mine currently works. I've literally never touched the bindings for the game at all. Do people just need to delete/clear theirs then?
dusk mesa
Gallium
inner cape
rough pulsar
I seem to recall what fixed it was changing the values of some sliders under one of the grip bindings
Not on my VR system right now so can't check
inner cape
is that even a real gpu
plush cove
yeah search it up
inner cape
plush cove
its from like 2006-2009
faint skiff
Yeah, but you're on desktop
plush cove
yeah
inner cape
also you're home alone
plush cove
nope
faint skiff
KEVIN
slender estuary
can anyone help me get an avatar of myself? ik it sounds strange but I have no idea on how to do it (inspired by Jameskii but don't judge)
plush cove
you need a 3d scan of ur body
slender estuary
alright, how would I do that?
plush cove
you need a 3d scanner
inner cape
🤡
plush cove
yea
plush cove
you need a tripod for ur phone
rough pulsar
@slender estuary there's a method of 3d reconstruction from photos called Photogrammetry, and Meshroom is a free piece of software that allows for that.
slender estuary
Maeio I have a tripod and Gallium would you be able to show me how to use it?
rough pulsar
There's a user manual and videos on youtube
cold talon
there is also a neuronal network powered 3d reconstruction program on the net that requires only one photo
but its limited to the face
vestal pier
Fuse is a good resource for humanoid clothed bodies
primal oak
I'm pretty sure you can check SteamVR bindings without VR.
vestal pier
Adobe Fuse* that is
slender estuary
ok so I need to take pictures around my body or?
rough pulsar
Pretty much.
slender estuary
I also don't own photoshop or a greenscreen
alright thanks
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TtdNBcfUMLA https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l57i9AT1h2M
I'll check these as they look decent
vestal pier
Heyya
cold talon
heads up thats going to be quite a lot of editing, not in terms of scanning and creating the model, but more in making it vrc ready
slender estuary
alright, you reckon that video will show me what to edit or not?
vestal pier
You can always find another one if not
slender estuary
alright
cold talon
oh that video seems to be using makeHuman, so its not actually scanning the 3d model of yourself, just placing a texture of you, on a model made to look like you
slender estuary
that sounds alright to me
cold talon
fair enough, cuts down all the mesh fixing that 3d scanning would have
slender estuary
mhm
faint skiff
Kinda like the old woman one which has become strangely popular again?
slender estuary
old woman one?
vestal pier
That one is entirely photograndmatry
cold talon
oh , you mean the holy queen elizabeth alexandra mary windsor ?
slender estuary
the one on the chair?
slender estuary
clap
vestal pier
knew i could count on you thx bros
faint skiff
No, it's the old woman from the stock photos
I thought it was this woman, but now I'm not sure https://image.shutterstock.com/image-photo/old-woman-pistol-on-white-260nw-182174168.jpg
nocturne saddle
Does anyone know how to upload personal avatars? I've been trying for a few weeks now and I'm just getting this error file not found message for unity
earnest grail
Im upset
faint skiff
Hi Upset, I'm dad.
rigid crescent
When you seen validation instead of solution to your problem 
vestal pier
Hi dad im dad
faint skiff
Hi Dad I'm Dad, I'm dad.
snow wadi
faint skiff
"Dear Rimmer, I am writing to inform you that your father is dad."
cold talon
"currently but not for long 
"
vestal pier
Rimmer? 😳
faint skiff
Arnold, Arnold, Arnold Rimmer... https://memegenerator.net/img/images/10601869.jpg
Not familiar with Red Dwarf I assume.
vestal pier
🤓
inner cape
rimmer 😳
indigo fern
opaque hawk
Avatar Chanel exists, pick some brains there
cold talon
rimuru 😳
inner cape
I heard ships? 👁
cold talon
earape 👏 not 👏 allowed 👏
warped bridge
hey um, my vrchat closed it self, is that sapost to happen?
inland fiber
anyone wanna play?
inner cape
what does that mean, mizuki?
warped bridge
nvm
cold talon
nah its vrc, vrc be like that, ayu
inner cape
tru
vocal shard
Does anyone also have the microwave avatar
warped bridge
i dont
inland fiber
ok
cold talon
i do have a microwave, but no avatar
inner cape
no new ships have been made today, as far as I know, mizuki
indigo fern
we have 2 microwaves in the kitchen for whatever reason
vocal shard
как делишки?
ruby needle
Please speak english in this discord, or use the corresponding language channel
Like this -> #russian
slate verge
look Dan is online :O
slate verge
you can upload your pictures on other server and link the links in #general-media
or post it in #vrchat-pictures
ashen harbor
anyone know how to make audio loud now? like not loud but loud enough to not be zoned out by would sounds and be on roughly equal sound levels with other audio types
like my avatars are quiet af
setting them to 1 obviously makes vrchat lower them to absolute hell so
rn its at 0.4-0.5 gonna try lower and see if that fixes it
vale stump
Hi all
vocal shard
Hi
desert niche
Hi is there any Staff available that can help me out and talk with me about me not being able to upload my character.
It is basically about me not being able to upload a character. I want to upload one, but it says that I need to spend more time enjoying the app. Recently I combined my account with vrchat, before I didn't do that.. I played VRchat for quite some while, but I cant upload a character yet, is there any way that someone can help me so I can upload the character.. ? :C
opaque hawk
You have to play the game until you account reaches the new user status. Try world hoping with friends
desert niche
Well my friends are not online, and I don't have that many
opaque hawk
We’re you previously of that rank?
desert niche
What do you mean with that sentence?
desert niche
I have absolute no clue, I deleted this discord because I went and stopped playing for a while, but I am back
Something like Known user? Is that what you mean
I think Known user
Nope
Combined my acc with vrchat because a friend explained all of it
yeah i am using vr chat account
but was on steam before :C
opaque hawk
If you nothing and wait you won’t rank up. I recommend playing the game. World hopping, making new friends, etc.
desert niche
Ah ah okay.. ;C Do you want to become my friend?
desert niche
I added you ! 😄
Oofh I can't find you, you can add me, Audros
Nice! 😄
Assuming you are not online, both :C
opaque hawk
Nah I accepted the friend request through the website
I don’t get on until late usually
tawny ore
Hai :3
tawny ore
I see a lot of names here, and I do not know anyone... and I spend a fair bit of time in here
hollow breach
who dat?
languid beacon
One of the best optimization minds on the planet.
hollow breach
source?
vocal shard
John Carmack is one of the devs at oculus. Also one of the original Develpers for id software, making games like Doom and quake
languid beacon
hollow breach
ohhhh i see
fresh iris
@meager solstice i finaly see the future proof publish button do i untick it then upload?
vestal pier
Yes
hollow breach
have the developers seen that yet?
vestal pier
Its likely
meager solstice
@fresh iris yes
fresh iris
okie thanks
meager solstice
Most people crash for whatever reason when uploading because of that
languid beacon
I don’t want to ping the admins but I hope they would consider a Carmack powwow, dudes great
queen mango
John Carmack an Oculus dev?
vestal pier
i can almost guarantee they've seen it
languid beacon
Yes, John jumped on board as an oculus dev right after or even during the original kick starter
Inside tracking was his work
And he’s pretty much the exclusive reason that I like oculus despite Facebook acquisition
queen mango
Stuff must've been pretty good with him around.
hollow breach
psst hey mods, u should like tell the devs, even if they know, just in case
forest agate
Guys, I have a problem. I tried to upload and use my new custom avatars, but the game crush. Can anyone tell me how change avatar without opening the game? I can't open the game
hollow breach
wtf i didnt even see u type, was dat a copy and paste : o
IT WAS
Wait but i thought network IK was implemented to make game less laggy
not to make it compatible for quest users
desert stratus
j-john carmack....holy shit
it was always in the bg apparently but im guessing it was rolled out ahead of time cuz of quest, so technically both?
hybrid zenith
plush cove
Yo when will vrchat get out of the early access stage?
rigid crescent
no one knows
i dont think most games know when they're coming out EA til soon before it happens
plucky nebula
Does anybody know about the URI Malformed issue? I cant log into my account in game but the website is fine
We tried reinstalling and everything
rigid crescent
I haven't seen a fix to it yet Someone else had the issue earlier
You might email them tho, email support is surprisingly good usually
frozen prawn
Hello
plucky nebula
How long is it gonna take though?
frozen prawn
:3
rigid crescent
A few hours to a day or two usually
boreal plaza
Oh please let them accept help from john carmack. Please please please. I am so sick of this broken networked ik.... His help is needed so bad
plucky nebula
Why would my URI mess up anyway
I litterally just moved
Its fustrating as fuck man
mossy fractal
midnight fossil
When are you guys going to address the ddos'ing and ip stealing issue in your game. I couldn't play your game anymore without a vpn. Even then people found ways around it. After 3000 hours of commitment i had to uninstall the game. I had to change my ip 3 times. That cost a lot of money where i live. I love your game, but it has become unplayable unless you just sit in a private lobby.
@covert chasm @vocal shard
vestal pier
For you*
true sky
the issue is that its not just a VRChat problem
hollow breach
Oh fuck he just pinged the big bois
true sky
you can grab anyones IP via steam api
hollow breach
@midnight fossil happens in other games dumb fuk
vestal pier
You willingly connect to the internet and play MP games, thats the nature of online games
hollow breach
Go ping gaben
true sky
which imo is heavily abused
vestal pier
The best solution is to just avoid bad people
The hundreds upon thousands of people who play this game and dont have this problem are the majority
void sundial
Hiii
hollow breach
Wait the dude had to change ip 3 times lmao
true sky
i get hit offline from time to time just for using a meme avatar to entertain others who want to see it
vestal pier
Dont go to the box.
hollow breach
Like, be their friend lmao
true sky
but if you are constantly, then you probably pissed someone off badly
hollow breach
@vestal pier yo I’ve been to the box so many times and hackers love talking to me lmao
vestal pier
I have too
hollow breach
@void sundial hello there, how is ur day?
vestal pier
But its generally a bad idea if you dont know how to handle them and their stuff
hollow breach
Ye
midnight fossil
The ones saying "get better friends" or "be friends with the hackers" that isn't the issue. I've seen entire lobbies hit off at random.
void sundial
@hollow breach good
true sky
if you know who it is, you can always report the user
vestal pier
That happens from time to time @midnight fossil
true sky
usually i keep obs recording for a reason
vestal pier
But if you are being attacked personally then you have pissed someone off
hollow breach
^
true sky
^
vestal pier
I get cheaters on my own maps, most of the time you just have to ask them nicely to calm down and stop and more often than not the human in them comes through
hollow breach
@vestal pier don’t piss me off or I’ll cuck u
vestal pier
you can try
hollow breach
: o
vestal pier
i know your only weakness
void sundial
A
hollow breach
Huh?!?!?
vestal pier
0⃣
void sundial
Now I fell Less Lonely 😃
hollow breach
Dats good
true sky
plus pinging the community managers wont solve the issue as they are also aware themselves as they get hit offline as well
void sundial
It Is
midnight fossil
Anyone who knows me knows that i am a genuinely nice person. I don't have enemies in this game. I don't shit talk. It just happens at random. But more often then im willing to deal with.
hollow breach
Prob cause ur fugly
Sorry that was toxic plz accept my apology
I’m nice wholesome boi
void sundial
Lol
vestal pier
@midnight fossil Im not claiming to know you but unless you are some rare anomaly and exception to how this game works 99% of the time, you have done something wrong
true sky
i am a chill guy in game as well and still get hit from time to time
midnight fossil
^^^^
hollow breach
I’m the most toxic gamer alive and I don’t get hit
vestal pier
It happens to the best of us 😄
true sky
if its someone hitting everyone, then yeah, dont pay them attention
hollow breach
They send me friend requests :3
vestal pier
If its that bad, take a break from the game for awhile so whoever you have annoyed forgets about you. If you really want to play make an alt.
true sky
probably a 5 year old thinking its funny to issue DoS/DDoS attacks against users
void sundial
@hollow breach eek That's Noice
true sky
@hollow breach dont hit me 
hollow breach
@void sundial 😎
@true sky watch me, ima go on my VR, find u, and slap u
I’ve already done it to blue
Just u watch 😎
true sky
hollow breach
Wait what really?
true sky
guess i need to talk to the CEO of DDoS then -_-
vestal pier
Sometimes
void sundial
I don't Play Vr,But I watch Lots Of Youtubers that Play it
desert stratus
join us.
fresh iris
Guys i got these to errors
-
Sibling object share the same path, witch may break network events: VRCChair 2/Cube
-
same error without the 2
What do i do i only wanted 2 seats players can sit in
ruby needle
§15. No posting the same question or statement across multiple channels.
ashen harbor
bro wtf
I ran into a gang and my friend was there and luckily warned me but apparently they could've melted my PC or doxed me? is that true!?
like what the actual fuck
ruby needle
no, they can not melt your PC.
ruby needle
Also no
ashen harbor
ok I was like how does that even work
but I didn't take chances when I heard that I dipped
@ruby needle still though don't wanna get doxed and have my IP posted or some shit
ruby needle
if you fear about leaking your ip (which by it self is nothing you want to write on a sign but also not the end of the world) close steam while playing
ashen harbor
@ruby needle close steam? or exit steam?
ruby needle
closing or exiting is the same 
ashen harbor
well closing it like running it in the BG vs exiting it which ends all steam processes completely
indigo fern
Closing the window just minimizes it to tray
ashen harbor
^^
ruby needle
as you just said "run it in the bg" so thats not closing, thats minimizing/hiding 
indigo fern
No, closing a window is closing
ashen harbor
well saying closing steam was vague which is why I asked
ruby needle
yes but we're talking about closing the program
anyway, answere should be clear by now 
ashen harbor
ye
ruby needle
Minimizing to tray wont make sense.
indigo fern
That's why he asked 😂
final mango
yo i need help
desert stratus
just for future clarification to anyone who reads this bit of chat, nobody on VRChat can fry your PC components. in fact, PC components themselves are really difficult to destroy intentionally through software. if you find that your PC wont boot after the next wolfboy went particle-ham on you, it's likely that it was already on its last legs and it was only a matter of time before it keeled over. if someone else tells you that their components were fried, they're probably misunderstanding what's going on or lying.
languid beacon
The game? the game is free
meager solstice
¿
meager solstice
Verify email?
indigo fern
Did you make an account?
languid beacon
did you make an account?
gaunt jungle
yes but it keeps saying failed
ruby needle
did you use any special charaters?
gaunt jungle
wait
vocal shard
i suddenly cant log in anymore, it says "Could not log in - URI malformed"
gaunt jungle
do u go to regristation?
rigid crescent
Oooh, another URI MAlformed
gaunt jungle
registration
rigid crescent
that's the third today
vocal shard
what the heck is this error
languid beacon
Random aside don't paste emoji into your vrchat status, the game crashes
rigid crescent
Not sure, no one has mentioned it before today minus one vague post that was never answered. you might need to hit up the support email for this one
vocal shard
im so sad i think my accounts corrupted
i made a new account and it works just fine, but even after reinstalling on a different computer my main account is malformed
rigid crescent
guess you wont know til you email them
vocal shard
i emailed them about 5 minutes ago itll prolly take a while
solid yew
Why do i not see VR chat anymore❓
faint skiff
Have you put your headset on?
rigid crescent
or turned on your monitor 
misty cedar
@vocal shard @rigid crescent @plucky nebula
I just had the URI Malformed error, and resolved it by changing my password to one without symbols.
They must have changed the client and some symbols now don't work, but some still do for example "!" still works fine
plucky nebula
OHHH
plucky nebula
@misty cedar THANK YOU SO MUCH
feral lance
So creator of doom wants to help vrchat servers?
vocal shard
Better to look at him as one of the lead Develpers in Oculus who is really good at optimization. Back in his early days at id software, he was able to optimize games and make them work on computer systems that seemed impossible to run on.
Now that he's working on Oculus, he knows how much of an influence VRChat has on the VR market, so if he can offer to help optimize vrchat in new ways and push a bit more out of the quest (likely his main intent), it can help both sides
rigid crescent
you only get a response from devs if you're drekwiz sorry lol
desert stratus
honestly, i dont even care if he cant / wont do muhc for netik atm, he could probably touch literally any other part of the game and net us +10 fps per thing
desert stratus
0~0
faint skiff
Error: Success!
desert stratus
the nightmare, right before i open up 2.80 and try to learn it
languid beacon
oof
until someone gives me a good reason to take the time to learn 2.8, I'm staying right here
Rendering is not an interest of mine
indigo fern
Yea, for vrc updating to 2.8 isn't necessary
languid beacon
if it does workflow things better i'm all over it
faint skiff
@desert stratus The thing to be careful of is how much Oculus like locking things/people to their platform. I have very little trust in them that they wouldn't try and do something that would only benefit their business somehow (short-term or or long-term)
desert stratus
eh, im fully aware that oculus in the clutches of grand master zucky wucky
but this is john carmack we're talking about, the guy is actually really passionate about this shit from what i've heard and seen
languid beacon
Online multiplayer VR is what people seem to be screaming for. That doesn't work with exclusivity. The most popular online games won't be exclusive
vocal shard
Carmack is the grandfather of 3d gaming. His interest is in advancing the gaming experience. I think he genuinely would help
wow
languid beacon
I will admit I'm a big Carmack fanboy. It's why I'm still all over Oculus even after the Facebook buyout
Now if Carmack walks, I'm out
desert stratus
yeah, oculus already sends in devs to help with any other game on their store IIRC. john carmack taking a special interest in vrchat is huge, i just hope the team lets him in long enough for good shit to happen
faint skiff
There's no way he could/would be acting on his own, he'd be under contractual obligations on how he's allowed to interact with other companies. No-one can be in the position he's in without the company exerting some control over them.
desert stratus
if carmack walks he better walk right back towards valve or htc or to another VR company, he's cool
faint skiff
@languid beacon Doesn't need to be exclusive (as you said, it wouldn't work anyway) but they can try and steer people their direction. A performance boost on one platform here, a benefit from using a specific headset there, etc.
Anyway, let's hope I'm wrong as usual. Night all.
languid beacon
Does the description field when uploading an avatar have a purpose? I've never seen that text used anywhere.
true sky
other than existing in the API, no
guessing it was suppose to have a purpose when it was added
it was the same as world description, then they used it in the world info
steady pivot
It's used on the website
steady pivot
Yeah, it will hopefully be used whenever the ui overhaul that they keep promising actually releases
brittle dove
hi
scarlet flare
vocal shard
Who got a clan
rigid crescent
a what
silk shadow
everyone is going on about network ik i am new to vr and have a rift s what is network ik
rigid crescent
To be clear, "IK" is "inverse kinematics", and is how your avatar's pose is calculated based on how your headset, controllers, and trackers are positioned and oriented. Those calculations are expensive! Now, you only do them for yourself and send the results to other users, instead of everyone doing everyone's calculations.
silk shadow
and this matter how? how is it a big deal to people what does it change
oh okay i watch this video and i can see that it does not looks as good
queen mango
@sudden nacelle Not exactly the way to greet people.
wise perch
cold talon
ah yess a fellow 🅱 good morning to you too
cold talon
nobody said it was
snow wadi
The only thing is if you're planning to use it for existing projects, it's best to finish it off in 2.79. Use 2.8 for NEW projects.
I learned that the hard way. 8D
cold talon
ah and if you port a 2.79 project to 2.8 disable layout import or lese you'll suffer
vocal shard
Anyone else think how with some changes vrc could be a classic rpgmmo. There’s a lot of things present (albeit VERY basic). The only things that need to be added to make it more plausible are the ability to save data across worlds. So you could gain experience, or whatever in one world and take it to the next. And the ability to store items Like, if you gained a flashlight in one, you could have it in another through menu.
I’m kind of neutral on the idea and have no development experience but yeah. Just a shower thought I had
snow wadi
It's a little tough to do so since an instance is temporary, once you leave said instance everything you did drops back to nil.
What WOULD work is if you were to create a whole new platform with custom API and server side scripts to be built for such a scenario.
vocal shard
That’s not much unlike mmos. They’d just have to take questing differently, having the progress saved to you and apply to what you can do. If you finish quest X you can talk to NPC y. This would make it so no visible changes had to happen. Although I have no idea how’d they go about it lol. There’s too many changes to count so it’s an impossible idea
But it’s still fun to think about
slate verge
unfortunately vr games are still very early to become vr mmo's
snow wadi
But VRChat is only about keeping your profile with basic saved info; worlds, friends, avatars etc.
dusk mesa
slate verge
@vocal shard However there are already a few rpg games available in vrchat game modes. Like Dark Waters for example.
snow wadi
But you do have an idea there and that still counts.
vocal shard
That’s all true. It still is fun to think about though. Especially since vrchat IS a VR Mmo. It’s the only thing we really have
Besides that other crappy mmo
cold talon
nah just store everything in a big file server side, ez
snow wadi
We first need to deal with security, right now it's just open season lol
vocal shard
Lmao, that’s why it’s an extremely unlikely scenario
still. I think vrchat comes close to having a lot of rpgmmo aspects even if they work entirely different. Being able to keep an appearance and save it across worlds, different locations being instanced based.
tranquil cobalt
I like to think of VRChat as an (early) extension of web more than a game that we just mistake for a game bcs of how tied VR is with gaming
vocal shard
It’s just unfortunately more like roblox than something like WoW
Even if you say that, I enjoy vrchat more as a game than anything
I’ve always been a social gamer. That’s why I look forward to vr mmos
snow wadi
There are MMO like worlds in vrchat, but you would have to do it in one sitting with no drops from the instance. Can take 5 to 7 hours to complete (Yeah that's one long ass session).
vocal shard
Still, that’s why being able to take progress across worlds would change the game so much
If vrchat was less stitched together, and more like a set of worlds
It would be pretty much what I expected vr mmos to be
cold talon
there are some tricks to save progress on a map, all tough not very elegant
vocal shard
The direction vrchat took is just different. Instead of going the route of creating worlds that go together, they let the community create worlds that they themselves can enjoy
I’m happy w that, I just wish I could see the other route as well
tranquil cobalt
That's what I mean! if you think of the dynamic of the social client and the way creator content gets made / delivered / experienced. It does kind of look like a cousin to social media in the early days of web 2.0
Maybe Udon will let you do things re: progress saving
snow wadi
I mean you could get around the issue by having save codes that you punch in for spawn a teleporter that leads you to certain part of the world but then everyone would just share those codes, which makes the solution ineffective.
vocal shard
I just hope vr gaming gets going. There’s a phenomenal amount of potential, but the most fun I’ve had so far was killing myself in pavlov
cold talon
Exactly, it's very easy to exploit
vocal shard
I thought of exactly that, there’s no way to make anything fool proof if you can’t connect the worlds beyond a portal
cold talon
But if you only want to have fun with a group of friends than its still viable
Unless they are that guy, im looking at you George, I'm looking at you.
snow wadi
Yeah it would work in a planned party but in public instances it would be a mess of kids skipping 80% of the content because of sharing.
vocal shard
Eugh. Yeah. But again, what’s the fun in an mmo that isn’t an mmo
snow wadi
Ask Anthem XD
vocal shard
Oh god don’t make me relive that
vocal shard
What a disaster. I played it through my game sharing. I felt so bad that he wasted his money on it
faint skiff
Glad I missed that bullet.
vocal shard
It’s probably the most disappointed I’ve ever felt
snow wadi
I knew it was a bunch of horse malarkey just from the trailer.
vocal shard
Like it didn’t just kill my expectations, I couldn’t really even be mad or anything
I was just like “ah. Should’ve expected that”
Closed the game, and never played again
snow wadi
As much as I'd like to start a fire convo about that game, I would do so in #general-media since this one is VRC specific.
I could write a book about that game alone.
vocal shard
I’m about to hop on vrc anyways and reliving that nightmare isn’t the best use of my time
It’s too bad to remember
past cosmos
Good morning everyone
vocal shard
@unkempt swan I can at least say that I have a vive and had trackers, and was met with no issues running the Ryzen 2600
unkempt swan
@vocal shard im using this set
tawny ore
I'm running a GTX 1070, R5 2600x, 32GB RAM; Rift S and im getting trackers for FBT soon.
Have no complaints about my experience.
snow wadi
I already got sick and tired of people downplaying rift s, I already assume anyone who never tried the headset and are just yapping about how bad it is have no say in the matter unless you have the bloody headset itself.
tawny ore
The screen on the S is what sells it to me.
Even with the LCD being as friggin sharp as it is; I still see pixels... that tells me the vive and CV1 would make my brian commit seppuku
snow wadi
It's like when people asked me what I drove and I said KIA, they immediately had a face of disgust. I stood there confused asking what the problem with KIA was and all they said was "It's a cheap brand" I asked in what way it was cheap? Have you been in one? Have you driven one? No? Then how in the name of all that is holy do you even know? Read about about it? That's THEIR opinion, not your own.
tawny ore
Y'see, my approach towards it is different. I do not argue over opinions or misinformation.
"That's one perspective, yes" is my go-to answer
grizzled kite
SUCKY
snow wadi
Finally, my Transtar Apartment world has been updated with a facelift. And it's up too! \o.o/
plush shard
You know what would be great?
Option to get a notification sound when you get a notification.
useful when you got hud off
tawny ore
You know what would be great?
Option to disable avatar-loaded (startup) animations
inner cape
those are just normal animations that are on by default so they play upon loading in
slate verge
better, option to mute people without them knowing
green atlas
anybody looking for a commission? not sure if im posting in the right place
just trying to pay the rent >.<
slate verge
i do, but unfortunately i don't have the money and its a very very hard one
green atlas
oh understandable no worries fooni ❤
slate verge
hope you can find one~
green atlas
i can do some hard stuff 😉
faint skiff
@slate verge If you block them, you'll disappear and they're not likely to notice though, right?
slate verge
@faint skiff i think they can still crash you via the instance, so thats kinda like a nuking thing for everyone
past cosmos
good morning weirdos
green atlas
also i recommend hiding all options for grey users besides their mic
cold talon
hmm, newly made account, just joined vrc discord and first thing he asks is for a commission,
suspiciousss.... 
slate verge
@green atlas i'd like to know how good are your skills so i can refer to you in the future
green atlas
i didnt know they had a official discord 😅
slate verge
dm would be nice
cold talon
fair enough, security check passed.
have a nice day
inner cape
scratch models, yes?
green atlas
so im like jeez i need to make one already
tawny ore
Ghosto is getting a commisionisionmission... it's a... person. With metel bits.
green atlas
i can do some stuff from scratch like bodys/faces
icy vine
Does anyone here know someone with the in-game name Nyori? I think she may have accidentally blocked me and want to tell her that.
green atlas
i gotta get better at texturing still
wise perch
gesundheit, Fuzz.
inner cape
tawny ore
😄 Thanks Dem
sudden burrow
creper
tawny ore
How's everyone today?
past cosmos
i'm about to go to sleep
sudden burrow
creeper
cold talon
we are checking out a new user Fuzzout
wise perch
good~ preppin to sleep, lol. you?
hollow breach
@icy vine I don’t know her but I can add her and tell her
tawny ore
Sounds like Scorpionhart is living on a japanese timezone
wise perch
hm.
hollow breach
Is she on right now?
icy vine
@hollow breach Thank you, I appreciate that.
past cosmos
i work overnights homeboy
tawny ore
So you technically DO live on a japanese timezone. I did nights for 7 years; can relate.
icy vine
No, sorry. She's not. She was 30 mins ago.
past cosmos
i guess so?
past cosmos
$13 an hour though, cant complain
inner cape
wise perch
👀
hollow breach
@icy vine ima DM you, is that okay?
past cosmos
plus easy job
icy vine
@hollow breach Go for it.
inner cape
cold talon
nah on second thought ill keep n8, his models have a tinge of gayness in them which i like
inner cape
not really
indigo fern
Frick
inner cape
on a second thought why do we need 2 of these: 
indigo fern
bRo
past cosmos
anyways i'm off to sleep for a bit. Behave yourselves
indigo fern
Why you gotta attack me like that lmao
cold talon
one is new, and one is nostalgia
inner cape
indigo fern
Oh, ok thanks then I guess
cold talon
unless..
indigo fern
😳
actually, while we're here, do you have any shots of the character from the side?
no idea what design is on the boots
indigo fern
epic
inner cape
motherfucker
tawny ore
snow wadi
Mista fuzz?
inner cape
Mista?! 🔫
snow wadi
inner cape
👁
snow wadi
What I do? D:
tawny ore
wat
snow wadi
Want to watch me play a game? o.o/
tawny ore
I'm at work XD
inner cape
it's like me trying to find someone to discord call while cycling - mudada
snow wadi
But that's dangerous >_>;
inner cape
why?
tawny ore
inner cape
snow wadi
That's like phoning and driving! D:
wise perch
inner cape
I have earphones, so no its not
tawny ore
No hands on the bike, phone in one hand, burger in the other - is the way to go about biking
inner cape
that's a free ticket to meet truck-kun
tawny ore
This is why you don't bike on the road you peanut
wise perch
or get a hands-free mount to put on the handlebar.
one hand on the bike, one on the burger.
inner cape
I dont bike on the road
wise perch
and phone in the mount :3
inner cape
faint skiff
Are you on a track then?
tawny ore
Burger in the mount, phone in the hand, mount on the ankle, feet on the handlebar
wise perch
👀
inner cape
ok stop
faint skiff
Collaborate and listen
indigo fern
Isekai time
desert stratus
helll yeah
fast falcon
Europe gang respond with 🇪🇺
tawny ore
No.
tawny ore
Oooh I like where this is going
inner cape
I'd draw a little sketch to demonstrate
pure hemlock
Hi Simon
I waht join who
You gotta buy me a fancy dinner first before I play simon says with you
pure hemlock
Yah, Netbeans, or Eclipse, or VS..?
tawny ore
That's a lot of RAM usage
pure hemlock
That might be hard on my system
tawny ore
This reminds me of when I first started doing java.... using notepad
pure hemlock
We all start out in notepad xD
tawny ore
Needless to say, I'm surprised that I don't need glasses
languid beacon
Post it notes best IDE
tawny ore
XD
I've done that too! Purple ones were usually ones reliant on timings; green ones were functions
pure hemlock
I prefer to write my code on punch cards
tawny ore
I prefer to write my code by zapping individual lanes on the motherboards bus system
pure hemlock
Wow now THAT'S extreme programming
languid beacon
I have a non-programming job and wanted to code at work so I didn’t forget when I’m home so I just wrote it out on paper
tawny ore
That's normal, I thought - usually wouldn't write in full syntax though; mostly considering best approaches for solving a problem
1 hour left of work and I'm freeeeee....
languid beacon
Somewhere out there there is a Conway’s game of life coded for the native runtime of gas station touchscreens because I was bored
vocal shard
1 hour left and I start work 
tawny ore
That reminds me... I installed chess on one of the bar terminals in my previous job... -... I did not delete it before leaving my job
slate verge
@vocal shard you'll be fine
vocal shard
surreal oasis
Hi guys
vocal shard
Hi
surreal oasis
are you all right
pure hemlock
Munchs on delicious bacon burger Hello
surreal oasis
hello
surreal oasis
hi
vocal shard
the John Carmack is on Twitter saying he'll help vrc make network IK better
Is anyone from vrc jumping at the chance to talk to John Carmack about their game or nah?
tawny ore
The guy's a programming genius; I gotta give him that.
vocal shard
I don't usually ping mods but when I do I don't care. @covert chasm
gritty needle
Yeet
tawny ore
Oh snap 
languid beacon
I mean even if they don’t think they need Carmack’s help it’s a chance to talk to Carmack
indigo fern
This is important ping
pure hemlock
It's a great opportunity
tawny ore
I love the positive vibes I'm getting from this chat :3
vocal shard
I'm sure they know already, as it's been posted on the VRChat reddit and many have talked about it. But the VRChat team likes to keep things quiet until more progress is made. So they may already be in contact and discussing. Even if they haven't announced anything to us
IDC who are you, if you're in industry and John Carmack is like "maybe I can help" you set something up