#vrchat-general-2
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:partyblob: I WANNA :partyblob: I WANNA :partyblob:
You want to party blob?
nitro emotes dont work in here anymore @quiet oasis
that ish sad
holaa
aaloh
hooii how are u?
Wait whaa why?
emotes dont work in here anymore
OHH NO.. Dies how?
no emotion no life
practically dead
correction
nitro emotes dont work in here anymore
yooo wait.. @weary bison why is there no more emotes? ;-;
nitro emotes
my :partyblob: is just plain text now
https://puu.sh/DWmtq/0ad272a04c.png no one even touches the rules channel 
What are rules? :P
uwu
to lazy to read
basically
no one knows.. xD
i mean breaking them can get you kicked so, probably smart to read them
how can you break something that's already broken?

I've been keeping my DMs open for now, so you're free to ask me about that kind of thing
custom Nitro emoji are usually disabled for regular users
I don't understand those tiny anime emotes, probably because they're too small to even see what's happening.
How dare you insult tiny emotes!
they are cute and beautiful!
apologize now!
Got to Go
bye2
If I remember right, one of the admins had to change the emoji perms for this channel because of some 'unforeseen' events.
Ohhh.. yikes..
yikes
lemme guess.... ahegeo faces spammed....?
If you cant properly mod, just ban it š¤
Not those things, thankfully. I don't really know why, though.
who is ahegeo?
Can we get them back then if there is no reason (or we dont even know) for it to be banned?
I am confused aaa!! XD
Itās not a person.
ohh okay then.. what is it?
Hmmmm. I think itās best either you donāt know or you look it up.
no no! come on.. tell me! plz
Its a NSFW thing so its not right for this chat to talk about
Ohh like.. uhhmm the porn thing? xD
But I mean...if your really curious. Then you can always use the internet to find out what it means.
I mean it probably wasn't any more explicit than what you'd see after 5 minutes in VRC š
okaay so what's the name again? XD
It happens a lot when you press certain buttons at the same time. You can turn it off in settings.
I don't know what even safemode does xD
Itās basically so you canāt see or hear anyone thatās not your friend
ohh wooow I see xD
I mean ahegao doesn't have to be NSFW. Maybe she just has an itch that she's really happy to be able to scratch...
I have accidentally done it many times. Especially when in VR
xDD I never done it
XD. Lucky
xD how is that lucky!?
Itās annoying xD.
xDD wait why do you guys turn that on anyway?
Eyerape/earrape shaders and sounds
You often can't see your menu when you're attacked
Or you just turn it on accidentally....like I do.
2.1k hours in the game and I still do it facepalm
Because....as enverex said above. If people spam and stuff so you canāt see your menu you can just turn it on by the press of a button.
I honestly don't understand how anyone could play VRC without VR, it would be so... boring.
....plays the desktop variant cos ey can't afford a VR quite yet
Is it not just like a rubbish chatroom in pancake mode?
vr game with out vr!. .. still fun! but you know.. not.. that fun xD
eeh.... yea, I can relate that XD
it's no fun not bein able to talk with my hands XD
Hello.
Yeahh true.. I mean like it is fun! when you.. talk and make jokes.. and stuff xD and hello darlk angel
I mean being in the world is very different than just looking at it.
I wonder how much does full body thingy cost.. uwu
also true, Enve.
I see everyone's pictures in the room below and I get a little envious, ngl. T,T
Headset + Controllers + Base Stations + 3 trackers. You're looking at £900 or so minimum really (with a Vive) or £1250 with an Index.
There is cheaper options just doesn't work as well
Ohh you mean!.. uhmm.. me buying a used one?
The main issue with FBT is the trackers themselves are really expensive. They're £100 PER TRACKER which is crazy.
And you need at least 3.
All that just to give you foot tracking seems a bit much to me.
yeah.. is there like uhhmm you know.. 4 trackers but for 300$
Honestly FBT just increases imerrsion significantly but yah, the vive trackers should be half of what they sell them for.
Now I want it.. xD
I'd buy them for £30 each but no way for £100 each
AHHHHHH
I mean.. tbh lets be real even 30$ is allot xD if it was like.. 20 or 24 then sure but 100 hll no..
Kinect works but requires you to always face the camera so it's a bit naff
Kinect is really niche I wouldn't recommend as a solution other than to try it out
30 for a really specific tech that has a fair bit of research and development behind it is stupidly cheap...
Wait why are we talking about this when we all know we can't buy it.. xD
That would not get them the development costs back as there is almost no game that supports it or even can properly support it.
Also I need to play with kneepad now because full body is too great and damage my leg
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awwhh.. xD
If you dance full body is fking great tho
If you don't then it come down to 300$ for immersion feet (if vive tracker )
You know what I wonder.. if there is like.. a body for your body! that like.. can make you feel when ppl are touching you xD
Yes
There is!? XD
@umbral reef Not really, it's not their own R&D, it's Valves which they've released as open for anyone to use
can anybody help me for a sec
HTC are just profiteering from it as no-one else is making them
Sure drip with what ho?
@vestal sleet I won't ask why you're on your knees often enough to need knee-pads š
U already know u been here enough
But it is all bruised up that discord wouldn't let me send a picture to my friends cuz it is "explicit"
Well it is not as bad as it as that seem actually
No one
But what if!! the girl is like.. a bit weird her self?
Hmmm š¤
Well just don't go weird on her . I guess just build le friendship
Notice: $femalePresence: Not defined.
You and the other 20 guys orbiting her like some weird circus.
Yeah well as long as your not a creep it should be fine.
I meet the wierdest people when i play vrchat. Is that normal?
Everyone on VRChat is a bit weird.
If they were normal, they wouldn't be playing VRChat
Exactly
Welcome to the freak show
Oh ok
God damn u guys r werid

Well I actually stopped playing vrc to spend time with my gf. I play it rarely. After 2.1k hours is not enjoyable for me anymore
I was changing sorry! xD
Big sad
Oof
Ohh okay...
Maybe your GF now fills that hole that previously you used VRChat to try and fill?
Gotta go cya! ā¤
Alrighty ..
Maybe.
Hmm.
Missing GMod textures?!??!??
What are you doing here?!?!
I swore I bought cs source!
I don't know what i would call the best of both worlds
VRChat exclusively selects the people who have VR headsets before they went mainstream. We are all a bit eccentric and strange
Hey, you guys know who pumpkinmon is right? I think he's the character i'm gonna be from now on.
Who tf is pumpkinmon
DM me as Iām lazy to search this up
Like a picture
And explanation
Well, to put it short, he's from Digimon.
Ew
PokƩmon > digimon
And he's adorable
I am adorable. Ain't nobody taking my crown.
Stfu
fite me, 1v1 i rek ya mum
Ez
@tawny ore No, i'm not saying he's as adorable as you.
meet in wildy lvl 50
No
Thank you @unreal shard
I genuinely have no idea what I or you are talking about
XD I quoted something from the internet I heard once
Tfw someone doesn't know rust
I will go cri by myself on rust now
I just want to throw my knife at someone there ; (
Hol' up a minute.... isn't rust that really, really, really fugly looking game?
where people have rocks and stuff
Oh I'm glad, I wouldn't want to have a game associated with Rust on any level
Itās a map on MW2
Rust was a good map in MW2
Too small for the killstreak rewards though
AC130 and everyone dies
Because I remember something rust-sounding being a horrific looking game thing
Smh, ur not a tru gamer
A real gamer would INSTANTLY know what Iām talking about
Gamers rise up plz
uhh excuse my confusion when you call out a MAP that is named exactly the same as a GAME
Top 5 Truest gamers
@vestal sleet tru gamer, I see u :3
Halo reach is da best :3
You know nothing of gaming.
My first console was the N64
I know a thing or two
And Iām born in the 2000ās
FITEE MEEE
@tawny ore its a map in halo 3, I know
Halo, Cod... it's the XBox Live Kiddie Crew in here today.
I was one of those Squeakers in the Xbox 360 days : 3
I feel like there should be a podcast channel on this discord
Wtf
I remember the UT1 intro would glitch out on my SoundBlaster 128 and the voiceover would be super loud and clipped to all hell.
I swear valhalla is a map in halo 3
It is.
Ye so I was rite
Afternoon here, it's too hot, please switch off the sun for an hour or so
Just delete the sun
Nah then we'd hit the polar opposite problem
This kills the man
lol
Also it'd be pretty friggin dark without the sun
That's 30C for those who are intelligent
Phoenix as well I see
Nah, Las Vegas
Las Phoenix
Yeah, good point. Because the sun is pretty much the only source of life in this universe
Oh this planet yes
Without the sun, the planet would cool down, all liquid-based entities would freeze and that's where we die
And legends say a brave man found a way to harness the power of the sun
Yes it's called a solar panel
SUNNY D
^ two different people
Yes, in drink form
guys im shaking
put the heater on
what are you, hackspanner
Anyone know any really creative worlds to explore?
I knew someone is gonna say it
hello
@hollow breach If you find The Box to be creative; I am sorry.
^ not being serious either
Hello Mr.NoBody
Ever been to the "Surreal Hazard" world? It's an old one, but still quite unique.
Was created using Tilt Brush. Is huge, surprisingly optimised for what it is, and can be explored via jetpack.
The elevator took way too long though
What do you mean by creative?
opportunity for blue to plug in his worlds :3
thats why im asking
Something that's not mimicking the real world.
How would you create a world in Tilt Brush, unless it's just a load of swirling colours?
That made me think of something... Imagine creating games using VR... Like - you draw a plank in the 3D space and then stack them up, group them and build stuff
Sounds mighty inefficient but I'm sure optimisations could be performed
Sounds like super Mario maker VR
Nah mario maker doesn't let you create an object from scratch
Give Unreal Engine 4's VR edit mode a spin, lets you do some stuff in VR.
I'm actually finding zero similarities between that and Mario Maker VR, lol
Maybe Mario paint VR
I will paint the castle
Hmm, time to overclock this 2080 Ti, see if I can squeeze a few more frames out of the Pug...
My 1080 isn't even maxed out in VRC while my CPU is lol
I'll have to double check. I know my CPU wasn't maxed out with my 980 Ti before but I've not checked since upgrading.
Big odds your CPU gets bottlenecked or the whole bandwith cant handle it
Everything looks better in VR now though, I assume as Steam has ramped up the supersampling. Which is nice.
I mean for me, the CPU is really the bottleneck so I'm surprised that your 2080 Ti needs overclocking
CPU is an i7-8700 which is already on the higher end of things.
I may not need overclocking but as Nvidia has an "auto-overclocker" now I may as well make use of it.
i5-4670k
I went from an i5-3570K to this 8700 and it was a night and day difference in VR.
I'm taking the low frames surprisingly well, for as long as there's no hiccup with tracking
I would love to upgrade my CPU but I can't be bothered to switch out my entire mainboard with a different one that supports the socket
Why upgrade your PC when you can buy FBT
Because I like my current avatar and I'm also too lazy to deal with OpenVR
You don't need OpenVR and what kind of avatar are you using that wouldn't work in FBT?
One where my play area is above the actual ground ingame
When your legs are too long the trackers end up being shin trackers instead of foot trackers so it still works just not 100%
Sounds like Mason is one of them dirty bed-players.
But yeah anyways, upgrading my CPU would be an overall benefit for all games, FBT would work for exactly.... one game at the moment
"bed players" did ya just make that up?
Vrchats like the only VR game I play anymore tbh
Nah I'm a fucking bed player smh
Lay in bed in FBT for that weird flex
Same. 95% VRC, rest is H3VR, Job Sim and FNAF VR
You know what I mean, lol. People with FBT who just float around on their side in mid air because they're lay in bed.
But I'm not laying in bed tho
Gotta show my FBT and 10k collision checks
Why is your playspace above the ground then?
Is legs are toothpicks
Iām surprised I do as well as I do on my bellow min spec pc in fbt pc. Then I remember I block so much stuff
Like most anime characters
Because of long legs? I dunno, there's also avatars where the play area is below the ground and I can grab below the ground with my hand
Can anyone gift me human fall flat on steam? If so dm me plz.
.
ew beggers
I have i5-4440
@south garden Request denied.
Pkz
Ew begger
Not even a VR game smh
how am i gonna ride on my friend's shoulders if im not a FBT master race
Chairs
Oh, well yeah. I've always assumed that's just VRC being crap, it's literally never been correct on any avatar I've ever tried.
Just sell them robot feet photos mic and you can get fbt
i have fbt lol
A second fbt set then
Disgusting
I was just told by someone that it would look bad and it would result in me floating above the ground unless I fix it with a playspace mover or something
It takes a lot of proportional fixing for your body specifically to get it perfect enverex
3 more trackers please https://puu.sh/DWqa1/2017219578.png
Very quirky
@frosty veldt Yeah, I've been working on fixing my avatars, but I'm not sure how much of it is really the avatar and how much is the game. Why doesn't the game calibrate to your height?
It's shit?
Once u have FBT u don't wanna play anything else
FBT = Full Body Thotting
I can imagine that but I'm not quiet convinced yet
I have full body, rarely use it
i didnt want to play anything else (in vr) before I had FBT lol
U r lazy
Tru
U should get out of ur chair and start dancing
Lmao never
I couldn't play VRC sat down, I have to stand up
Hate dancing
The best thing to do is scale your legs and test until the foot balls are in the right spot and then use that avatar as a scaling tool for you other avatars
After a while fbt becomes a pain after youāve been dancing with it for a couple hours
I dance around at Silent Club, or when I'm drunk lol
Actualy measuring and using those ratios never worked for me
Also, is it just me or does having a 1a2 day bear feel hella annoying while in VR?
I just shrunk the legs by like 20% in the last avatar, but I magically fucked up everything else on it so I had to start again anyway.
You can disable "inherit scale" for bones in blender which allows you to shrink say the thigh by 10-20% without effecting the shin or foot and then apply pose with CATs.
But rather than using a new avatar, I've ended up updating all the old ones too, so now rather than a replacement avatar, it's become a "dress an Enverex" playset.
somehow the only pic of me in the only place i usually dance is of me sitting down with my leg up on the table : | https://puu.sh/DWqfl/6e3a7479c3.jpg
Once I got FBT it's just been me updating my avatars for the past couple months instead of making new ones
all my avatars follow the same general premise, so everyone always knows its me regardless of nametags or if we're even friends
Dark skin and colorful hair. Recognized every time
I've not seen anyone that looks even remotely like me in-game so I guess people should be able to tell who I am without the plate too.
Dark skin is really rare which helps with that as well
Your avatars are really cute Mic
š¤ i know i know
Mic, please make it so your hair can go full RGB
Like, glow and all
it actually does
Corsair keyboard hair
That gives you like a full -5 IQ points :poggers:
My first "custom avatar" started my rainbow hair trend, and it even had nailsand eyes that change color based on my gesture even a closed eye one
Thats dope
@frosty veldt If I split off the legs, scale them down and reattach them, should that work, or will that break something? (without touching the bones at all, except maybe repositioning them slightly)
you'll be proportioned weirdly assuming youre an anime or anything remotely stylized
I would refrain from cutting them off and scaling them, it's better to just scale the bones in pose mode and apply as rest pose using cats
In Unity?
@rigid crescent Do you mean it'll have the after effect of looking weird, or are you assuming it's rescaling it enough for it to just look weird?
Rescaling is enough to make it look off sometimes
https://puu.sh/DWqoU/9746b07e6a.mp4 all my hair
It looked fine when I put it back together visually, I wasn't knocking that much off. It still looked human and didn't look out of proportion. Actually it looked more normal now as the model wasn't 70% leg
rescaling usually makes your proportions off since the model is typically designed that way for a reason
Well technically it makes the proportions correct as they were off before
Exactly
Daddy long legs looking anime characters
Circus stilt-wearing looking motherfucker
except theyre stylized that way for a reason to "match" the rest of the model
As Mr L Jackson would say
@rigid crescent It doesn't really match anything though, it just looks weird when you notice how far up the legs go.
it matches the style of the character, seeing anime stuff with the legs chopped when you know the rest of the body doesn't match is super obvious
It looked fine to me
I think it depends on the model as well, shortened the legs on one short one by about .2 meters and now comparing it the old one made both versions look wrong
I think you just have a preference for daddy lankylegs
Even if it looks a little off in the tpose it's harder to notice when sitting down or moving
I mean it's not a preference, i can just tell when the proportions of the style are off lol
It looked fine in the T-Pose so if it looks fine there, it's going to look fine the rest of the time
I'm going to make a model with 3cm legs just for when I meet Mic
Just a bunch of Ugandan knuckles glued together
i dont meet anyone from this discord, its like meeting randos from highschool at the grocery store 
@rigid crescent meet me in vrc pussy
So far it's still just Jamie that I've added and met, only they're special enough š
Well it's not that I intended to or wanted to. It was more that if the inevitability ever came about.
I've seen mic so that means I'm friends with his friends friends, thanks friends+
ah shit what
time to wipe my list
Other than that, from this discord, I've been in the same room with some of the purples and yellows, Eevee, scruffy I think, some other people i forgot
Meet me in vrc pussy
Jamie's christmas present was seeing me ingame because that was the last time i saw him i think
I swear I wonāt crash u
never
Never?
never
U said ur friends with Jamie right?
i am but we're never in the same room 
Donāt worry, Iāll make it happen ; )
I'm sure there are gaping holes in the API you can use to track Mic if you wanted to
@vocal shard sorry ; (
š¤ did i actually do it
@faint skiff oh I have a friend who can do that for me
I forgot about that
Hehehehehhe
untouchable
Example... lets put my coding hat on. The API lists who is and isn't blocked. Run checks against Mic to see who's muting/hiding them, send join requests to all the people who are apparently interacting with him which in turn will put you in the same lobby as him. Boom, 3 points of separation.
except if im in a friends+They have to be friends with someone there to get in
You spend all your time in Friends+? That sounds... weird.
Just be those guys who throw friend requests at everyone the streamer can see
so that only works if im in a public and blocking someone in public
š¤ spending lots of times with friends is weird? hm
I think I spend 90% of my time in friends+
Spending time exclusively with friends and exclusively in friends+ instances.
"Spending time exclusively with friends and their friends sounds weird" Say it out loud lol
But I guess that's what everyone on the subreddit is complaining about these days, so I guess that's expected.
exclusively
Don't wanna meet randos I want to talk to my friends

"Spending all your time with your friends sounds weird." š¤
that's literally what people do IRL...
Missing half the words out of a sentence you're quoting just makes you an asshole.
Yea I was going to mention IRL lul
And in friends+ you meet new people all the time
And IRL people spend times in bars and such. Those aren't "friends+" bars.
Alone?
Yea, but in IRL you don't talk to complete randos
the weird ones are the ones going to bars alone to talk to complete strangers lol
Go to a bar IRL and get crashed smh
VRC doesn't exactly follow standard "human interaction" etiquette.
That's why friends + exist
Because when I went to bars, restaurants, movies, parties, etc I went with friends
Wait, so just thinking back on earlier conversations. Are the people that are telling me that crashers and shader abuse aren't frequent, also the same people that are telling me now that they only spend time in Friends+ instances? Do you see the issue there?
No
I never said I did it, I'm just pointing out it really isn't that weird or bad like the people on twitter and the subreddit whine
But it is, and you're in NO position to say otherwise given what you've just claimed you do
I also, unlike you, presented proof in the form of screenshots and I'd be glad to add video as well
I'm in publics most of the time with 0 safety settings, you just have to go to the right worlds
Isn't it more that crashers and shader abuse is bad enough that they spend time in friends+ to avoid them?
Mic suxs big balls
"I don't encounter people that I literally couldn't encounter due to my location preferences"
I claimed I did it?
Obviously crashers love the box and presentation room, you're always gonna see some there
I'm re-checking my posts, not seeing where I say that but i've been up for a while
@frosty veldt That's fine, but if you're going to do that, don't claim the people you're hiding from don't exist..
"hiding from" ok but see, where did I say I do that?....
Mic is a pussy confirmed
I mean, I'm just asking for clarity sake. I just argued against your terrible point.
You said you spend all your time in Friends+ to "avoid randos"
šæ 
When did I say that? Can you find the post?
Avoid randos?!?! Lmao
I didn't delete a single thing before you ask
Mic doesnāt like going outside his bubble
Pretty sure I said the randos bit
lol even if I only spent time in friends and friends+, that's a pretty massive bubble
Possibly, that's the issue with having a conversation, 1 to 5 at once
Not really
I'll take the apology, but I'll also accept a "my bad"
I mean you're welcome to go fuck yourself.
Donāt apologize!
or an "o shit whoops"
Omg I love you @faint skiff
No one can ever admit they made a mistake, I even triple checked my messages to make sure I wasn't wrong and this is the thanks i get
i dont remember the last time i was crashed
It doesn't make anything I said less correct or anything he said less wrong š¤
Pinging someone literally right there is more of a dick move lmao
@rigid crescent My point is, if you don't spend time in public lobbies (which you said yourself that you spend your time in Friends/Friends+) then why would you expect to see the same people I'm seeing in public lobbies like the Pug?
āOr a oh shit whoopsā
I was memeing, I don't actually expect an apology lol
where did I say that? I've scrolled up and screenshot all those posts I made and nowhere did I say that...
Talking to me or enverex?
Enverex, I don't even know what you're doing lol
Typing
Ok, so I said about tracking you via who you block and you replied "except if im in a friends+They have to be friends with someone there to get in" which given the context of the conversation implies that you spend most or all of your time in friends+, otherwise your own point would have been moot.
LOL
what a leap
THe context of the conversation was them joining on me by finding out where I am through the API
How is it a leap? If that's not what you meant then it wouldn't have invalidated my previous point about tracking you via blocks, no?
Eh, Iām not liking this convo, even though I love Enverex
plz accept my friend request btw
But I gotta do it
<@&397642795457970181> drama is happening, plz make them stop ; (
Right, but why would you say that unless it's true most or all of the time?
Otherwise it's not a good counterpoint.
....what?
This is just a convo bruh? Where's the drama lmao
Look, you can just admit you made a mistake man, why is it so hard.
They are fighting, and I donāt like it
I said it because it's a fact. A truth. A thing that is true.
Iām scared
Drama is happening
One of the main reasons this drama happened
I love this chat man
"He will be able to do the thing you said unless I am in a friends+" that could mean I spend 30 seconds a day in a friends+. There's zero timeframe mentioned or implied in that
Right, but if it's true only a small amount of the time, why say it as if it negates my earlier method of finding someone?
Iām not though?
You are lmao, you're just poking at mic
Guys, lets calm down
Come on man, do you really need to stretch that much to avoid admitting you made a mistake?...
Owl to the rescue!
the cops š
@indigo fern Iām that parent in the audience screaming at the kids
Hypeman
Iām not part of it
@hollow breach What adds fuel to the fire as we all know. š¤
š
Shhhhhhhh
i havent really taken in a word they said besides "me or enverex" lol
No, I need you to clarify. Either my method of finding you earlier would work fine (because you're in public most of the time) or it wouldn't work, because you're in Friends(+) most the time. That's my sticking point.
But Iām not A main part
we getting spicy in here?
No you are taco boi š
You're always spicy
ayyyyy
what a happy ending
basically
Dirk saved us all
So basically, Iām monkey
I found this map with a train moving towards mt. Fuji
It's good, you should look at it
What even was the discussion? The last thing I remember is legs...
All this started because I wanted to flex FBT
I have safety disabled and I never get crashed. Itās easy. Just donāt go to the box or presentation room. No more crashes
Yea, some people don't realize there are common spots crashers like to go I guess
Crashing? Whats that?
I spend ~90% of my time in the Pug. As I said the other day, I had to report and block, I think it was 8 people in less than half an hour the other day, before then getting crashed out by a portal that flew towards me. That was a rough evening.
wait people can crash other users ?
Ow yea people, but what type of people lmao
^
Same like you dont go the presentation room
The crash crowd does not really explore very much. Once you move on from the most common worlds you get actual personalities
Legit any other map gets you high odds of dope people as non normies go there but power users
Worlds with like, 2 full instances are pretty chill
I've tried exploring other places, but people outside of the hotspots like the Pug and the Cat just seem to be there because they're with other people, already doing stuff.
Pug can get crazy but I usually have safety on for that world only
Yeah. "Per location safety settings" would actually be quite handy.
Enverex
Let me tell you a secret.
There is almost no one within this game that is without a group and if they are without one, they join one in the public worlds
Its also almost like those groups form naturally from lose stray people or smaller groups
I typically have everything but animations on and im fine most of the time in publics. the last time i was logged or crashed was probably 4 months or so ago
I leave everything on until something happens
Disable nothing and the worse thing il have to do is jump to a worse safety setting because a desktop user doesnt understand how shits annoying animations can be
It's not like exclusively "outcasts" go to publics anyway, I actually see a decent amount of "friends of friends" in them during certain hours
I don't like disabling animation cuz then it disable props
And then il just jump from none to costum that blocks shaders and animations š¤·
Plus, you can just walk up to people and join convo, half the time they don't mind if already in a public
@indigo fern Naahhh thats illegal man
We are not allowed to be that socially capable
Lmao, literally just talk 2head
Funny enough, throwing up an animation fixes that for me.
So being a higher ranked made that way easier lmao
Else it just takes more time but still is doable
I just, to this day, don't see what's so difficult about making new friends, whether its in a friends+ or a public. I literally corrected a dude on something in a pug a week or two ago and him and his friend talked with me an hour or so about stuff because his buddy was new and he was somewhat new
I'm with Fez, I think im my 100+ hours so far, walking up to a group and carefully trying to take part has worked... twice?
just be funny guys its easy
š feels bad
obviously friends+ is a bit easier to make new friends in, but people still manage it in publics
I usually easedrop until someone brings up something I can relate to and jump in then
Ow shit, i legit made all my ingame friends that way. But im sure im wrong
Scionzenos gets the idea
@rigid crescent That's a chicken and egg situation. No friends+ with no friends...
I just walk up to people and talk. I donāt know why you guys are having issues making friends
Like, you guys push your butts into the convo's here so you can do it ingame also lmao
Ya I don't find it hard to just drop into a group at all.
@frosty veldt That's what I meant by carefully join in
See, adeon understands, just do it
i mean even without the friends+, I've had good conversations and been friendly with people in publics. i mainly stick to pugs but still
Ask questions
just talk 5Head
Yeah, that's literally what I do. I just throw myself in
All my friend r PST so I always end up in public world until like late night weekend anyways
@languid beacon Because I have the social aptitude of a bag of old potatoes...
Literally, just talk 4heatsink
well, dont do that, we know what happened last time someone "just talked"
A lot of the time I just feel like I join convos by complimenting an avatar or pointing out an issue and helping them fix it
@faint skiff So how is that the systems fault that your not social and cant make friends?
Even in friends+ worlds you have to be able to get into the convo.
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Disagree
I mean people have 2000-3000 hours as desktops user
@umbral reef Erm, guess it's not. Thanks.
joining a convo is just kind of easy. shit dude, i usually have a fair amount of anxiety of hopping into one beforehand and i still try anyway and it works out fine 8 times out of 10.
At the end of the day the this is a social game and it is what u make it out to be
@tawny ore as you can see, this chat is engulfed in blazing debates, I love it
I am a ridiculously introverted. If I can do it anyone can. Might be uncomfortable the first three or so times but you have to get your brain off the idea that itās scary and then itās just like nothing
But @inner cape You're meant to take sides and debaterate away
Like its a shitty thing to say what i said. But if you cant talk to people im not sure how the game is to blame for this. I have had just as much problems getting to talk with super friendly people in friends+ as in public worlds right now...
exactly! no fear.
It takes effort to make friends š¤·
Thats how it has always been
@tawny ore I'm enjoying the view so far, no need
Like what
You had to grind for this view
So a community thats focused on something?
Gee, almost like discord is a good way to find those people š
ive had conversations that range from cartoons to life, i think you can always find shit to talk about regardless of the platform
That does exist it is called discord
I mean if you don't find the game fun just don't play it lmao wtf
every community Fez?
So you want people that want the same thing, be friends and chat with eachother without being a community?
Can we call it like a social group then instead of a community? A good old name change without anything else might fit.
And how would people join?
invite links, you can generate through the community hub 
And how will you get the people that want to chat to join you then?
advertise on other social platforms that offer the same features just more developed and better in every way, like discord
So you want to advertise for a community? Pretty sure people love adds but i might be wrong.
Also almost like creating a normal community is easier then so you wont have to redo it each day then.
I was being entirely facetious if it wasnt obvious.
I disagree
WoW group finder was for a different goal.
Also, we kinda have that already within VRchat with worlds. Specific worlds aim for specific groups.
Maps mainly with Japanese people, russians, gun fanatics, dancing, chilling, avatars.
Wait, so you want something like Omegle where you can pick a topic first then just join those similar topic people or something?
But in vrc of course
seeing how vrc is, better of making something like tinder instead
Also, what gives you the idea that people will actually care to use this system the right way and not just go for the 'yolo' option (current worlds)
People already use communities for this.
If i want people with X intrest id join a discord within VR for it or a larger discord and search for a subgroup within there.
I'm wondering. Lots of the people saying it's easy to find people. Is that based on your experience in public worlds now or public worlds when you started, before you had your large friend groups?
TTS probably doesnt help the situation
Before it was leaps easier. But im talking 2 years back.
Before we even had the panic button thats already forgotten.
I mean, I found a new group of people just recently, pretty neat peeps
Trust me, most where in public worlds back then. Weeks before knuckles where even a thing.
I still meet new friends pretty regularly in public worlds, but it feels pretty dependent on timezones. It seems easiest to meet people to chill with during their late nights, wherever their timezone is.
Btw, who's up for a VRC meetup 
When
I mean everyone is telling u that u can do it but if u don't think so then u don't think so
There is no point to continue this
Tomorrow?
@brisk bone Are you in VR?
Isn't that all the tools would do? Help make "communities" that "follow the same patterns of behavior"?
Then dont?

They'd help you create more communities of likeminded individuals, which is normal for any social gatherings
remove mirrors
Remove eyeballs
bahka for vrc president 2019
remove kebab
Mirror aren't the problem, private, public, friends+, etc aren't the problem. People are the problem, plain and simple.
Also what's with the mirror thing? So many places I go, the ENTIRE place will be empty despite apparently 20 people being there, then I'll find everyone clustered infront of a mirror. It's... eerie.
@rigid crescent Cant deny it though, public worlds are fairly shit comapred to ages ago lmao
But the full community mindset on average is worse so
Well there's fewer people in them I guess, I've found them a lot more reliable though than before
Because they like looking at the public model they picked while also looking at everyone else
Why flock to a mirror when you can have the photo camera out 24/7
Well, gotta say, if we talk about non mainstream maps i can see you being right. But the pug and box for example mic.
Oh that's what im talking about
I just went to a room of rain, one of the most popular/the most popular map right now, and watched someone talk about RP stuff that was actually interesting
@brisk bone Are you using desktop and TTS?
I mean, as long as they actually talk, I don't care where they are
Ah
I mainly find screaming kids in there or people who dont understand what manners are lmao
Jump to another room and normal daily life convo's are going on
Yeah that's what I mean, before it was a lot more to sift through compared to now
I do miss when we could browse all the instances of a world. I found it easier to find instances that were about half full. Right now it seems they're either empty, or almost maxed out.
Last time I went to a "room of rain" someone tried to crash me out with a fake portal (this one didn't chase me this time though) - https://steamuserimages-a.akamaihd.net/ugc/791989114891535632/B4B8EBEFCB39F63A8DD45475C04D7637624C598A/ (proof, as mic doesn't believe me otherwise)
i joined my first group when I saw 404 rapping in a public. He promoted his buddy and I added them which they were cool with, followed his stream I never watched, then joined on him one day and just clicked with his friend group. This was march of last year. I've done similar things just this year
Hello
@neon flume Speaking hard facts
My first friends group stopped playing at the camera update because it rekt their performance š
I still crave for the day where we had the old world listing
Its still so god dam retarded.
I dont want 3 one person worlds, one world with 5 people and the same 2 every time with almost maxed our groups
I wasn't aware of that change since I only ever join off friends but that does sound horrible
he doesn't know
I would always aim for those half full ones
i just kinda join the first one and chill for a bit to see whats going on
also late on it, but ANY system designed to bring people together will result in friending people and building groups and communities
"We added a Chess tag. Anyone intersted in Chess can join these Chess tagged worlds to play Chess."
ok now we have an easier way to make groups and bond with people who like chess
i add these people, we hang out, our groups meld, we make friends of our friends. it's the natural progression of a social structure. you dont need a degree to see that
or we add eachother and never meet again I guess lol that happens too
You grow your bubble then take over the game, I see your plan mic
:3 my roots reach deep friendo
š³
i can connect anyone on my friends list from the time i started playing to now, even if it's people i just met a week ago
inb4 mic uses hacks to force connect to anyone he wants, even in privates, even offline
I just met someone who does RP stuff with another said friend from last year, groups of friends are bound to be connected somewhere
Oh I just had a friend who joined on me yesterday although I didn't remember when and where and what we did
Still worked out 
It'll happen with anything. Have a sports map? OK, people who like a sport will go to it. They'll meet, probably get along because of clear shared interest, add one another, and possibly do the same thing people do now. If anything, a system to help likeminded strangers meet will accelerate the growth of communities and friend groups
I mean, you added them for a reason I guess
Friend made a movie map. While it was exclusive, people would use a link to reach it and join on one another to watch movies. That's how I made or bonded with a majority of my newer friends this year. A simple map designed to help people get together to watch movies.
That's just how people work. It's how society works. You have your chess club, your videogame club ,your math club, your debate club, your computer science club, your whatever. I couldn't tell you if it's learned or just how people work, but it's been a thing since forever as far as I know
you got your hunters, you got your gatherers
I almost quoted fight club to be funny but i forgot how edgy fans of that movie are lol
people feel comfortable around others who are like them. if you share the same culture, opinions, etc you get along naturally.
so sharing the same interests will lead people together
Well put it this way. Player 1 through 10 all like something obscure, because anime is too broad. Comic books, like actually reading comic books and not looking at the wiki page every time a new movie is announced
Why wouldn't we add one another and hang out and form a group after the first or second meet?
What reason is there not to attempt to form a friendship with these people who all share this hobby and i presumably get along with
maybe personal reasons. but that's an internal problem
and why shouldn't I join them once in a while, talk to their friends who will hopefully welcome me into their fold and vice versa?
Yeah, personal ones are always a thing. I usually don't just add people unless I really feel like we hit it off or have the potential to
Leigt my friend group has one thing in common and that is that we are all humans lmao
I'm still new to this so honestly I've just been adding anyone who seems nice and is willing to spend time with me lol
I was mute for my first 2 hours of VRchat and somehow still managed to make friends
We went to the same school, not even the same class.
Being social isnt all about liking the same things, plenty can differ. Same that one thing in common does not mean someone might enjoy you.
welcome to the game ^ ^ and speaking of which, i just lost the game
Thats pretty much it silky
You might join those poeple later when they are online again, get to know them, become proper friends, meet there friends, get to know more friends thanks to those guys and so on
i mean you're right, it is easy for me to add someone and never meet them again and eventually purge them, but what's more likely;
Me not adding someone and forming a group with another person in a situation where we're already brought together for our mutual love for something?
Or the exact opposite of that
While we at it, feel free to add me ingame
thanks :D it's been really fun so far. still figuring out how I can get a good avatar for myself but other than that it's been a great experience!
@desert stratus motherfucker
<3
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Hop avatar world or make one @radiant gorge
With things like tags or worlds specifically meant to meet people who like the new smash bros, or devil may cry, or knitting, you're helping form these groups. I'm sure that's not the only solution, but it seems like the easiest one to help people with similar hobbies meet.
I've been to a few avatar world. I just can't find exactly what I want
I mean searching a tag would probably make that easier too
That's not true? those are just the ones to make it to the second list, whatever that one is
I think it's Classics or Community or something
"Hot" maps are 100% what the community likes
Pug obviously not included lol
I mean as someone who has had two maps spotlighted im going to disagree, i made something showed it off at community meetup and got the attention that way, you're implying connections just come from nowhere which isnt true
making high quality content is what gets your shit on spotlight
Zoo š¤
the actual spotlight section is just the dev spot
I don't know anyone on the Hot list that's a "famous" map creator besides Sombie
lmao, his recent map got out of labs in like, 4 minutes
and it's not like you get "map famous" by making shit maps lol
and just because a "famous" map maker makes a map doesn't mean everything they do will skyrocket
Zoo is an art piece, entirely subjective
Understandable
In what regard to you disagree
Can you provide any evidence? You're allowed to disagree without it, but have you actually looked through the names of people on the Hot list?
How many do you recognize besides Gunter and Owlboy?
How many of Spanish Hub or ImLExz maps have been a massive hit the way the current ones are?
yea i was gonna say, lex's map got popular, even if its mostly friends+ or private
this russian person has two maps ive never heard of, and then Rest and Sleep
proud of him ;-;
What's wrong with curation
favorits have been wonky since november
since they came out basically
They take awhile to go into the list @ashen harbor
hmm alright usually it doesn't take too long so I'll just give it some time then
So should things be curated or not, because all those problems are solved with curation...
the old world reviewers were pretty bad too
Whether we're doing the curating or staff is doing it, someone is curating it.
except high quality maps, that's not anyone's fault really. They're harder and take longer to make, so fewer people are making them, so obviously they're not super comon
There are resources to get your map seen by people
hai
right before community labs tho was funny
worlds were getting rejected for and had some good comments
They did
"wasnt really lag free, it costed"
My fav is Tupper's on the Gachi one "Sorry aniki"
omg yes, do you have a screen of that one?
probably somewhere deep in my sharex folder
Steam key
aniki pepeHands
OK, so what's the solution? š¤
Besides communities made by players based around knitting, because that's what you're trying to avoid.
Because that's honestly the easiest one.
An ingame tag? So tag my current instance with Knitting, Art, Comics, etc?
or something else
I think its important because you said The only maps that make it up the ladder are maps created by famous map creators with support from staff. which is wholly untrue and unfair, why should peoples success be attributed to their familiarity to staff
While I don't think their complete success is attributed to that, it definitely helps to get your map skipped up on the list back when they were doing manual map acceptances
Yeah, but that would make communities and groups form faster, then you're back at square one except 2 steps back from that
Like you said, its speaking of the past, how about now?
the fact that the maps are only popular if they are supported is sad
What?
while there's no concrete way for me to prove it since they (not to sound like a conspiracy theorist) removed the paper trail, why would they stop?
"It happened before when there was proof why stop when they remove the proof?" I guess?
I know for a fact that many many people who make good maps and get them into spotlight/hot etc have little to no affiliation to staff, myself included
now that's something that needs proof
Pretty sure lex's map isnt supported by staff before it got popular
now that's something that needs proof also
yea, all lex does is lay around
Yeah I have no clue who that person is lol
Same with Spanish Hubs Room of the Rain
At best lex is known because of the people they know. And cant really say those relations would be instantly positive
Yeah I met spanish hub in room of rain and he actually spoke spanish, wow
Hes a lovely guy
it would be a ripoff if he didnt
Hangout maps like that are a combination of luck and promotion
as far as being a hit
With him it was entirely luck
Its a room from one of his larger maps that he didnt expect anyone to even play.
What is?
It was the same with that Oknuj map. he changed his name, but t hat was originally just a private map him and his friends hung out on. i missed the giant tazor/oknuj statue when the world released
That world used to have a bunch of cute avis too
So....networking? lol
While it's partially networking, it's not all just that. Sometimes it just 'clicks' because people join and like the world, promotion or otherwise.
No one implied that it was just suddenly there, ofcourse it was word of mouth etc.
Blueasis joins a map. It's a half decent map. His friends join. Oh, it's a friends+? their friends join. some fav the world because they like it, rinse, repeat
There are resources to network, the community meetup is a fucking fantastic one
There's this discord, twitter, other discords
That resource is INSIDE of vrchat too which is easier
I'm pretty sure they'll go to pretty much any map that gets suggested, that's how the few clips of the meetups ive seen have gone at least
so its a great way to get it seen by people who know about world stuff
I can explain it briefly, at the start the crowd is asked to step forward if they have something to show, they are added to a list, and everything is shown over a 3 hr span
it really is that simple, and its super good fun
But it already works very well the way it is. Could it be better? Yes. Does it work fine? Yes.
I see tons of worlds on Twitter via the #VRChat_worldē“¹ä» hashtag, and others shared by people I follow
Twitter is great for vrchat
the memes are gold
While yes, a system within the game would be better, what we currently have in place works very well
And as for it being mention in game @brisk bone an events board has been brought up several times iirc
i think its even planned? dont quote me on that
i think they did say they were trying to improve the UI and UX during the dev stream right?
It benefits creators though
which benefit the platform
the creators ARE the platform
https://twitter.com/3Marco_VRChat/status/1153325759026454530 This map is he perfect example of it. This is a JP community member. They have, as far as I know, zero ties to Gormundr who is a fairly well known RP dude, yet he still took his time to take photos of and say some nice words about a world from a total stranger on the other side of the planet.
also its my homeworld
aww, theyre cute
I've used the tag the same way, though I didn't say near as much. I probably will start doing that more though since I like taking cute pictures in worlds.
do it
Without creators there wouldnt be a normal userbase...
i mean, there are plenty of creators who just make without being popular
We'd all be greybois sitting in blank rooms
Chicken vs the egg.
But the reason the normal users stick around is because of the creators, so they are the platform
You want creators to be recognized, but not too recognized?
Content maker.
People who make the avatars that attract users, people who make the worlds who attract users, people who make the things people enjoy
someone who makes something that can be consumed in any way.
people who upload things publicly?
Even privately, that can still attract.
Whether it's the climbing worlds, a chill world, a prettyboy fox avatar, or a spartan avatar. If people are enjoying it, they're enjoying it
I fucking died when I saw one person in my model who was a stranger, my world isn't even public i just have a few cloneable ones and it somehow reached them.
That kind of thing
bro, i saw someone using one of mine too and i have no worlds 
was epic
especially since it was a nikei dressed as a larens model
oh shit i saw that last night
but regardless creators are what bring people and keep people
sorry, the majority of people
They bring people in, people stay for the people but what even gets them to touch the game is what people have made
Semantics
They bring in everyone.
I mean who do you think brings in good people? The other good people? š¤
I was brought to vrchat by a creator, now im a creator also.
I mean it's veered off, but regardless of who comes in or how they interact, they're almost always brought in by creators
and communities are always going to form
those are just two undeniable facts
I would ammend that by saying its creators who KEEP people in, friends are usually what brings people in the first place
I dunno about that, I'd say friends are what keep people in
I don't think I'd just wander around forever watching particle parties and climbing virtual walls without people to do it with
Hm, yeah nevermind
You are complaining about the lack of resources to empower creators i think?
Empower them like how? We can already choose what maps go live, what maps become popular, etc
The meetup is arguably the most powerful resource, imo. and thats entirely in game, if you know what time it starts and what day it is youll never have to use another platform to get to it.
What is "the meetup"?
The community meetup
Its an event where creators show off the maps they are working on
While the complaint is relevant, we have the tools to do that outside the game, and they work just fine. Ingame would be better obviously, but you act as if there's nothing
a good event ubu.
Its a fantastic event
it's rlly fucking cool except for when i desync every 10 min </3
they look neat
Lmao yeah tru
that's just because my PC is bad and oculus + steamvr dont like playing nice
its like 40+ people sometimes in a room
there was one i saw in a clip where some people were tilted and some werent? any chance you know what that was?
there was tilted landscape so im guessing some people synced weird
i think during the climbing one we had 60 or so
oh god
i wasnt there for the climbing one cuz i knew i basically would be playing the game at seconds-per-frame instead of frames-per-second
That + the inherent lag you get from climbing being a hacky workaround was not great
most people did it just fine though?
You have to remember that creators are also just users, and we had to figure it out too...
Im not a smart man, i figured it out.
I mean, if the "everyone is in private/friends+ worlds, no one is in publics" thing is true, doesn't that mean almost everyone has succeeded with just the tools we have
most of the time when i check, something liek 1/5th or 2/5ths of the online players are in publics, minus the US sleepytime hours that kinda throw it off
It's like the virtual version of being picked last for teams in PE
so that other chunk of users seems to have succeeded with only the tools we have
All it takes is one friend to get into that friends+. That's it. A single one.
No, it means they haven't found their place yet.
And honestly, as bad as this sounds, not everyone can do it. Not everyone can muster up the courage to talk to strangers, or to even use their mic. Thats no one's fault and no game functions can save them.
At least among my friends we do deliberately try to spend time in public instances to try and meet more people and just be social outside of our bubble. I'm guessing that's not entirely uncommon with other friend groups too.
from time to time i do the same and people join on me, or i join someone else on public. usually when i see a friend in public though i join them over someone not
Most of the people I know avoid publics like a plague and I can't blame them
@brisk bone The TTS thing is going to kill you socially though. There'll be no voice emotion, no reaction sounds, a delay before you can respond, etc...
how do i beat the anxiety on vrchat? I am not used to being anxious to talk :/
There's no real strategy to it. you just kinda....talk.
@brisk bone Can you not just... talk?
it just feels weird to jump into a convo
And keep in mind the odds of you saying more dumb shit then that they have already heard in this game is small
I have a few friends who used tts on occasion. While I absolutely understand their hesitance to talking (I was mute for ~6 months) it does make conversing a little more difficult.
Yeah, I get that. Just do it a few times and try it out. if it doesnt work you can just run away since its a game lol
No amount of game functions are going to help you with that though...
I mean, no matter how bad you think your voice is, the majority of people will immediately dislike you for using TTS from what I've seen
This Vrc talk makes me wanna play the game so š
People using it tend to get ignored or muted
my stuff is charging š
Plus even if you don't like your own voice, it doesn't mean everyone else will dislike it too
^true that
when you want to play the game but you're trying to do somethig with your avatar that's fucking weird and are just waiting for help cuz ur dumb >n<
I hate my own voice but no-one's ever told me (in VRC) that they hate it
voice doesn't really matter if you are good at talking
i spend so much longer in unity and blender than the actual game lol
I was so worried that people would treat me differently once I started talking; yet when I did it seemed like the only difference was that people would interact with me more than before. I'm really quite glad that I'm no longer always mute.
It's so weird, I've had people tell me they like my voice and thats jsut so fucking foreign to me lol
SAME. my voice weird
ppl don't understand me cus of my accent usually
They just want that rainbow hair mic
but its usually my "oh god please stop crying" nice voice not my "breh deadass id smash 4real" one
or because i can't setup the mic in game but it works anywhere else
they really do smh
Nordic people tell me I sound like a king. Americans mock my accent. Everyone else appears to be indifferent. Not sure what to make of that.
americans don't have an accent don't kill me
Talking is just kind of something you have to do eventually unless you're just really good at being mute
all my mute friends have turned into talking friends, I only have one on my friends list at this point. Even my TTS friend talks now
what is tts?
text to speech, you had it right
Text to speech
It's existed since the 80's lol
i just can't get my mic volume right even tho it's at 100%
oh wait, I did have another friend who RPed a robot that used TTS but as far as I know they also talked outside of VRC
i meant in game enverex
It doesn't exist in game
oh
They're piping it in via other methods
Make sure you have gain control enabled on your Mic btw
Mine was useless till I turned that on
The Chad Mute vs The Virgin Speaker
somebody should make a cattus avatar lol
You can be that somebody, make the avatars you want to see in the world.
what if your both, mic
You have a mic, but you only use it for beatboxing?
hi
i dont think ive ever* seen anyone in this discord in-game on accident or by coincidence, so i've yet to deal with the "oh shit it's my teacher / classmate at the grocery store fuck me this is gonna be awkward" moment
oh and <@&397642795457970181> that jaden guy
jaden...guy?
