#vrchat-general-2

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cold talon
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Yall new users tanabae

indigo fern
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😔

ruby needle
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By your logic all the admins would be everyones friend

cold talon
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Except Fpaul and elire

indigo fern
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Yes

cold talon
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Yes they are everyone's friends

queen mango
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Not necessarily. I haven't met some of them yet, properly. GWmiyanoPeek

indigo fern
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Elire pls ;-;

cold talon
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You don't neet to know them for to be friends with

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:smart

indigo fern
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:smort

cold talon
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Nitro boosters don't get emotes 😔

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Can we get 5 likes

queen mango
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Chat seems quiet.

cold talon
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Yeah, happens alot weh a certain green user starts talking

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Sometimes the ability to defuse the chat works a little, too well

queen mango
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So I see. Haven't been in VRChat these days.

vocal shard
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🤔

sharp saddle
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Why is the video player so unreliable?

magic agate
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The entire game is unreliable

fossil yarrow
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anyone else struggling to connect to the game, or just me? cant log in, continous connection lost

inner cape
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green gay

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except jamie

vague pecan
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Hello, it's been over 2 days that I play 3 4 hours vrchat but I still have not received the grade to make skin is it normal?

hollow drift
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.

sharp saddle
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Yep, it's perfectly normal. Try spending up to a week or more.

vague pecan
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1 week ! it's big

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and this weekend I'm not at home

sharp saddle
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In other words, focus more on socializing than making.

median basalt
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That's a common theme in this game

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Trying to make something invariably ends up in frustration anyway

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And if anyone comes here wondering, yes, I also just got that Discord spam message.

languid beacon
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I’d probably have twice as many hours logged if I wasn’t in blender /unity making stuff

hushed cargo
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Took me 70hrs to get known user

languid beacon
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152 known 302 trusted

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No idle...

sharp saddle
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302

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Lies.

median basalt
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I was trusted from the start (at 800 hours), got up to "veteran" in the API internally 100 hours later

languid beacon
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It’s not time based

median basalt
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And then got demoted to known in an instant :^)

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Not solely time based at the very least

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We only know that friends and content is a factor

plain anvil
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I had User from the start, got known after about 100, now I'm at around 4-500 and still known lmao

median basalt
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And that lots of blocks or mutes gives you nuisance rank

languid beacon
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My total speculation is that it’s 0% time based. Things can happen while just standing around wasting time but don’t necessarily happen.

queen mango
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As stated by FPaul:

"Becoming verified by the trust system is based on reaching a not time based trust score, which's exact algorithm is unknown to prevent exploitation.

You presumably need to play the game in a normal manner with your VRChat account, walking around, meeting people and also making some friends. Idling won't help.
According to many responses in this Discord, a rough estimate would be 20-40 hours, but big exceptions are possible.

Make sure you are not using a Steam or Oculus account because those can not be verified and continue playing the game until you get a notification or e-mail."

(Update 'from Elire' ; while Steam and Oculus accounts still cannot be verified, they can now be merged with your VRChat account, transferring everything from the former two to the latter one)

http://help.vrchat.com/kb/article/27-why-cant-i-upload-avatars-or-worlds-yet

ruby burrow
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I propose that trust is clearly determined by the number of headpats given and received.

plain anvil
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Then I should be triple trusted.

noble plaza
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uhui

indigo fern
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do you get bonus points for putting people to sleep/falling asleep?

uncut crag
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how do i use the mic in vrchat

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with my wmr

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what button do i hold

desert stratus
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you dont hold a button

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just unmute yourself and talk naturally

uncut crag
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unmute myself?

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its hooked up

desert stratus
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if youre not already unmuted

uncut crag
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idk how to “unmute” myself

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maybe my sensitivity is really low

desert stratus
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is there a cross thru ur mic

plain anvil
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Press your menu button, and you should see a mic with a 🚫 through it. Click on that.

indigo fern
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check the settings in vrc to see if its using the right mic too

vocal shard
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I went from trusted user to new user, how do I fix this? I haven't been reported afaik

pastel galleon
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damn logged on after a month and the first public world I go to a user crashes the whole room nice 👍

vocal shard
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My Vr Chat crashes when it’s connecting with steam profile

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Any fixes ??

slate verge
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@sharp saddle strix! you boosted vrchat server too yay!

sharp saddle
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I did, yes!

slate verge
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its an honor

uncut crag
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my WMR joystick is drifting to the left?

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what do i do?

vocal shard
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move the joystick in the opposite direction it's drifting and blow/spray compressed air into the base at the other side, should fix that

fringe sentinel
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@uncut crag take away the keys for a week and then it should stop VRC_Tongue

snow wadi
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You could also exit VRChat and launch it again without moving the sticks before it launches, some unity games tend to lock onto a defaut position before launching and that includes thumbstick position. So if you had the stick pushed in any direction before launching it will lock into that postion as default thus casuing you to move in an unwanted direction. I had a Lenovo Explorer WMR so I do have experience with its shenanigans. xD

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Also, moaning!

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Oh one other thing, try to turn off the controller by holding down the Windows Button until you feel a long vibrattion, then switching it on again.

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Try that before my first suggestion!

uncut crag
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i have turned my controllers on and off various times

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also for games that are not vrchat

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i would need a solution

snow wadi
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Did this just start happening?

timber latch
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hry everyone

uncut crag
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it has always been this way

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since it came in today

sharp saddle
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Very possible it's either defective or got damaged during shipping.

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What WMR set do you have?

uncut crag
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acer

turbid talon
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I guess contact a mod?

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Anyone else unable to get into vrchat tonight?

uncut crag
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So some random dude i saw said my username come here

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then my game instantly crashed

still lark
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lmao

patent hull
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Hey people, im new on this discord server, really debating buying a vr headset, but which should i buy? ive looked at the rift and the vive but im not really sure

umbral reef
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Depends on your budget really and how much your willing to spend

polar jasper
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It's a choice you'll have to make yourself in the end. Both headset has their pros and cons. If you got anyone you know that has either, i'd suggest you try it there.

fringe sentinel
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thought the main 3 PC ones I can think of are the rift, vive, and index.

umbral reef
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WMR is also a big group

patent hull
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Thanks for the answers 😃

obsidian herald
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These climbing worlds are awsome, now someone needs to make one where you climb Mt Everst with Batman.

umbral reef
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<@&397642795457970181>

queen mango
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Got him now.

faint skiff
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@uncut crag Play Eurobeat and enjoy it

uncut crag
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what

faint skiff
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@uncut crag That was in response to your "drift" comment earlier which appears to have been much earlier than I realised.

uncut crag
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oh

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i see

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im gonna sleep, now

final vale
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Anyone know a world where i can clone the andre avatar ?

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Pls

faint skiff
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Well moving from a 980Ti to a 2080Ti took me from 35fps to 60fps in the Pug so I guess... yay? lol

snow wadi
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I see I see, and what did the chicken duck cat have to say about it?

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_>

faint skiff
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Que?

snow wadi
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Exactly

faint skiff
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My snek is nearly done. Just need to figure out why he's so wiggly like he's just had 6 coffees and has his tail angled into the ground in game.

snow wadi
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Oh that's something you need to sort out in unity.

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That happened to my cobra girl.

faint skiff
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But the head and arms work now at least after tricking it into accepting a human rig. It kept complaining about missing body part mappings before despite them being mapped.

snow wadi
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When unity begs for specific bones I just build them in blender but without weight painting them.

faint skiff
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That's what I did and then mapped them in the rig, but the descriptor still claimed they weren't they, despite being there and being mapped. I deleted it, reimported it and it worked. No idea why it was being weird.

snow wadi
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Like if I have a model that has 3 fingers, the rig has 5 but are just there for the sake of being there

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Ah yeah if you make any changes or want to make changes to your rig in blender, set the model to non humanoid before import, after import set it to humanoid again. It will actually remember the mapping you've done as well.

faint skiff
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It doesn't remember the mapping. I was fiddling last night and every time I switched from humanoid to anything else (e.g. generic) and back again it would clear the mappings (and put them back to the incorrect defaults)

snow wadi
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Yeeesh D:

faint skiff
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I wouldn't mind so much but I had to keep remapping every part of the hands and fingers which was super tedious (it would start at the first finger rather than thumb so I had to shift everything back one)

shell nova
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Mornimg

faint skiff
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Amazing, the Vive tracking pucks are now £160 each. You can almost buy an entire Rift S headset for the price of 2 pucks...

tawny ore
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And if you put a 3rd puck in there and 3 lighthouses - you can buy a Rift S and eat for a month too

faint skiff
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That actually makes replacement Vive controllers a cheaper option than pucks. A third party needs to come along and make them.

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Cmon China, hurry up.

snow wadi
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And they shall be called You're A Wizard, Harry HTC replacement Vive wands. Made in China.

faint skiff
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I should look into seeing if the actual components are available and making one myself or something, see how feasible that is.

snow wadi
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I think you can actually build your own with parts if you were to visit china, parts are dirt cheap but assembly will have to be from your end.

faint skiff
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I have several 3D printers so assembly wouldn't be a big issue.

umbral reef
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Tbh even parts from china are not dirt cheap anymore unless bought in bulk

snow wadi
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Heck you could 3D print the casings yourself.

umbral reef
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And depending how deep you want to build your part, component or circuit level its pricy still

snow wadi
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Actually they still are pretty cheap, you should check out strange parts YouTube channel. An American living in China and he's all about putting gadgets together made from...well dirt cheap parts. he built his own iPhone too xD

umbral reef
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I often do that stuff and just get everything from Alix express (like an 6 months shipping for a fucking screw but its dirt cheap)

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Often getting things from india works just as good if not cheaper because the labor there is cheaper then in china now

glossy wharf
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trackers are still same price for me

rigid crescent
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who the hell wants to walk around controllers strapped to their body, thats even more clumsy...

rotund wren
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It feels clumsy too

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It's just personal preference

faint skiff
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Hmm, the sensors used are nearly $7 each so that's clearly a considerable part of the expense.

rotund wren
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I feel like I wasted money on leg trackers

glossy wharf
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yeah tbh same

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considering how much it cost i dont feel like i got that value back at all for what i use it for

rotund wren
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They're ok but you can tell and feel they were never designed for "full body". And just sitting down with them on just makes you look like a waste of money lmao

umbral reef
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Just become an erp streamer and you will earn the money back ez

rotund wren
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I try to stand with them as much as possible

glossy wharf
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Yeah same

snow wadi
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I always hesitated on FBT, because I knew for myself I would be excited for a week and then it would just be meh

glossy wharf
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Literally me

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i used it everyday for 2 weeks then put it on my shelf

faint skiff
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Yeah, but just think of all the leg dabs you can do

rotund wren
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I think with the index valve might make something more comfortable and wearable since there isn't many people using the vive trackers for what they were actually designed for

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If they spend 2 years developing toe tracking though I swear to god

faint skiff
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If Valve created some better shaped (smaller, more slimline), cheaper trackers, I could see them making bank.

rotund wren
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Cheaper is a word valve does not know of when it involves vr lmao

tawny ore
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Accessory-wise valve may be able to pull it off though

glossy wharf
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I mean for what the index is and what the controllers are the prices are p reasonable

faint skiff
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That's because they're aiming for the sky with the Index. But the trackers are a known thing, they wouldn't need more expensive tech in them.

tawny ore
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inb4 individual toe tracking xD

faint skiff
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Just a refinement

rotund wren
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Apparently the index controllers were gonna be cheaper but their financial advisor or whatever told them to price them high as they're gonna be in high demand for people who have money to just spend lmao

glossy wharf
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Thats not true at all

faint skiff
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Yeah, that sounds like some Oculus fanboy nonsense to be honest

glossy wharf
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The reason the index controllers didnt come out for sucha long time is because of the production process being extremely expensive

rotund wren
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It was on kotaku or something I read iy

glossy wharf
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just read up on the development processes

still lark
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R&D was super long

glossy wharf
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KOTAKU lmaoooo

tawny ore
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Vive pucks are so expensive because they have a monopoly on FBT stuff.

faint skiff
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Well there you go. The bastion of quality reporting that is Kotaku, haha.

rotund wren
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Where did you read yours?

tawny ore
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The moment an alternative launches, we finally have a competition in pricing

glossy wharf
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  1. Some tech websites a good while ago
  2. Valve developer newsletter we got at work with the dev kits of the knuckles
  3. On the valve developer page in steamworks.
faint skiff
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@rotund wren The ongoing statements by Gabe and the team about trying to keep the costs as close to actual cost as possible to increase adoption, drive the tech and so forth (they make money from selling the games regardless). Plus you don't need a counterpoint to something which was made-up in the first place by a known garbage source.

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Found a £99 source for the v2 trackers which is a bit better.

rotund wren
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You can't really believe a company about money though that's like ea saying they didnt try to put loot boxes in as a gambling mechanism

faint skiff
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EA are beholden to investors (which basically means staff and customers are always taking a back seat). Valve aren't which basically means they can do whatever they want without having to constantly worry about "year on year revenue increases".

winged thistle
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is there really no way I can see my own rank on the website?

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or anyone elses really

glossy wharf
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U can use the api

winged thistle
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...why do I need to make use of the API, why can't they add this in their own website?

rigid crescent
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just log into the game? 🤔

winged thistle
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or just add it to the site? which takes like 5 seconds to check

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compared to however long it takes to boot up vrchat

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in addition to steamvr

rigid crescent
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10 seconds

faint skiff
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@winged thistle What rank do you remember last being?

umbral reef
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Not like desktop mode is a thing where you can also check all the things

rigid crescent
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you need to start steamVR and put your headset on to check your rank? 🤔

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🤔 🤔 🤔

umbral reef
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Also- What would it add for the website to always provide extra information barely anyone would use the website for

winged thistle
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well it starts automatically...

glossy wharf
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idk my vrc boots in 5 secs in desktop mode, doesnt seem complicated

winged thistle
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still my point stands

rigid crescent
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yeah, same here

glossy wharf
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right click, launch in desktop

faint skiff
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@rigid crescent The game starts in VR mode by default and keyboard/mouse don't respond.

umbral reef
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Or does the website do the tard thing where it already gets the info just doesnt explain it

rigid crescent
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wut

glossy wharf
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@faint skiff right click, launch in desktop

rigid crescent
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i dont even have to do that

glossy wharf
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I do have to do that

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its default behaviour

faint skiff
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@glossy wharf Yeah, I only learned about that the other day.

rigid crescent
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not holding shift

glossy wharf
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That thing doesnt pop up on default

rigid crescent
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weird, i definitely didnt do anything to make it default

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i actually hear about the Shift thing quite a bit but ive never had to test it lol

glossy wharf
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Yeah usually u have to hold it

faint skiff
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I'm guessing Mic is on Oculus and me and Sai are on Vive?

rigid crescent
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Vive

glossy wharf
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It happened on my oculus aswell

faint skiff
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Hmmmm

glossy wharf
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its just default behaviour

faint skiff
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Well I'm out of ideas

winged thistle
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and more convenient

rigid crescent
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by a couple seconds yeah

umbral reef
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@glossy wharf you know this stuff, does the webstie already call the rank api or is that something new they have to add?

glossy wharf
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If you dont have ur login saved ur gonna need longer too

rigid crescent
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odds are the api call would reveal ranks hidden is why im guessing it doesnt do it

glossy wharf
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@umbral reef website isnt calling the api

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The api has more ranks than ingame

umbral reef
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Pretty clear reason why to not do it then

glossy wharf
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But you could just make the hidden ranks say the ingame equivalent so thats not a good reason to not do it

rigid crescent
glossy wharf
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yea same

rigid crescent
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yall better be legends or we cant speak

winged thistle
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it's a matter of principle really. why not simply add it to the website...

umbral reef
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Still extra work for something that would barely get used

rigid crescent
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Make way for veterans, plebs

glossy wharf
rigid crescent
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the gods among the pleb masses

glossy wharf
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Real gods 😩

low sphinx
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Um guys... Is it normal that i'm in a White large Room in VRChat... It looks kinda Creepy ngl

faint skiff
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Is there an old man sat in the middle surrounded by screens?

rigid crescent
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did you join a white large room in vrchat?

low sphinx
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No i just joined The Pug

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But the Pug isn't a white large Platform

rigid crescent
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something tells me the platform wasnt just empty

vocal shard
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you've ascended to VRChat heaven

low sphinx
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I mean like i just put the Headset away and closed the game so idk

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Wait actually there was a white board but i didnt read that. Maybe that wasnt too intelligent

final zodiac
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Even if you had accessed The Dire Pug those rooms are dark and not white aevSip

faint skiff
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Is the people creating fake "VRChat Heaven" portals new, or is that an old crasher technique?

low sphinx
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@final zodiac I would attach a Screenshot if i could but i cant. But its a white platfoarm with a Whiteboard which said something

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And wtf is VRChat Heaven

faint skiff
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Pretty sure it's not a real place and the portal just crashes you out of the game.

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The only way to tell it's not a real portal is where it should say the group type, e.g. public, friends, friends+, etc. It says the abuser's name.

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Got a screenshot of one the other night when someone was trying to crash a bunch of people out (well, two people using hacks of varying types)

low sphinx
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I didnt go into a Portal

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Yeah i opened the Menu, clicked Worlds, then i clicked the Pug, then it loaded, i clicked on Go, I was there for a Second and directly after it was loading again and i was in that large white thing

faint skiff
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Maybe that was someone's giant white avatar?

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Did the menu still say you were in the Pug?

low sphinx
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No. The Menu said that i wasnt even in any world

faint skiff
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Did you screenshot it? That would have been useful. You can then click into the world name itself.

low sphinx
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I only have a Screenshot of that room.

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Wait actually i can read what it says. why am i so stupid

faint skiff
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It's the network connection issue room with the giant board saying something went wrong.

stray herald
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Could someone help me wit getting twitch chat in VR?

tawny ore
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I refuse on the grounds that I am at work and you are not

glossy wharf
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@stray herald Use either OVRDrop or OpenVR twitch chat.

stray herald
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@glossy wharf Ive literally tried everything possible and it refuses to work for me

glossy wharf
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can you be a bit more precise as to what ur issue is?

winged thistle
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I advise against using ovrdrop for now

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hasn't been updated for 2 years now

stray herald
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My issue is it just refuses to work for me

winged thistle
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and it's clunky to use at best

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I regret paying 15€ for it

glossy wharf
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ovrdrop is perfectly functional if set up correctly.

stray herald
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Ive tried using the paid ovrdrop on steam with restream io and it wont work. Ive tried poping out my chat it dont work

glossy wharf
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Well what have you tried, what doesnt work?

stray herald
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Can i VC with you?

winged thistle
glossy wharf
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not rn no

tawny ore
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Hol' up a minute.... Were you trying to get the chat to show up over the stream?

stray herald
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No i just want to see my chat behind my controller like everyone else does

glossy wharf
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@winged thistle If you want something like that OVR toolkit is better.

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Yes to achieve that people mostly use OVRdrop.

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Its very straighforward to use, at the top left you select the window, in that case a popout window of your chat, in the top right you load the left controller back side preset

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then it should work perfectly fine in VR.

stray herald
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I tried that and i see nothing in game

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Then i went through all options

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And still saw nothing

winged thistle
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mhm

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maybe I'll give it a go for an hour

stray herald
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I need to VC with someone to get it working

umbral reef
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Make sure the chat isnt somewhere in the floor or unclear
Check around in the settings

tawny ore
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What's a VC lol

glossy wharf
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Have you tried both controllers? It sometimes gets the controlllers wrong and then you have to hit the swap button @stray herald

stray herald
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Yes

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I change something i check everywhere looking all aroound and see nothing

glossy wharf
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Aight, im not at home for another 3 hours sadly so i cant help you right now.

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With vc that is

faint skiff
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Anyone else find it infuriating when someone has to be the centre of attention in-world, but completely ignores everyone else in the meantime? Like you're watching a sitcom that can't be interacted with or something...

stoic halo
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oh baby drama with friends

faint skiff
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I wanted to ask someone about something that happened the night before, but either they were deaf or I was muted. Either way, was a... weird experience.

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You know that weird air of self-importance that you often get from streamers, matched with the overly loud voice, insistence on controlling the localised area, etc, that sort of thing. Actually I wonder if they did have everyone other than a few people muted if they were streaming.

final zodiac
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Yes I do recognize that

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Though the people I talk with who end up being streamers, really just speak and behave like normal people

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I guess the demeanour changes if the viewer count is higher?

flint wyvern
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Anyone know when the next update is gonna be?

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hope they fix quest

faint skiff
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What's broken with it?

flint wyvern
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you cant see the avatars

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there just robos

faint skiff
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Quest users can't see PC avatars anyway. Can you not see people using Quest specific avatars either?

flint wyvern
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No the ones made by vrchat i can see

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but the other in like the hub i cant see

tawny ore
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@faint skiff Don't you love it when a person joins the world seeking attention - shouting really loud - but as soon as nobody provides attention - they're gone 😄

flint wyvern
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like a anime loli girl

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cant see that avatar

umbral reef
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You mean the default ones?

flint wyvern
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Yes the default avatars

faint skiff
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@tawny ore I'm not sure if this person was actually a streamer, but everything about them gave that impression, especially the fake, over enunciated accent. But who knows. I'd been talking to some of the people they were with when silly things kicked off the other night so I was catching up on the shenanigans, but gave up after a while of being seemingly invisible.

vocal shard
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if you cant get into a room even if it has low pop does that mean im banned from that place all together?

tawny ore
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Lewwy it might be the room is broken

vocal shard
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oh okay

flint wyvern
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or

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you are just banned :<

vocal shard
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i mean i have some obnoxious avatar so prob

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was fun while it lasted i guess

tawny ore
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Enverex last night I was teaching my friend how to VRC and this girl from night before hopped into the room (where 2 of my stalkers, me and my friend were) - started chatting away trying to gain attention points.... And my stalkers - being stalkers - just carried on climbing onto a screen, my friend kept flying around with a jetpack and I kept messing with the tablet/camera thing...
2 mins later she was gone

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Obviously greetings were had and so on...

glossy wharf
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@flint wyvern That is intentional behaviour

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the quest doesnt load avatars made for desktop as shipping platform.

tawny ore
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I feel sorry for Quest users 😦

glossy wharf
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Because the quest is a low end vr headset in that sense

tawny ore
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It's all robots, all the time for them - VRC needs to implement a "choose which avatar should display as default" instead of a robot

umbral reef
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Arent all avatars that are default for the quest crossplatform

faint skiff
#

At least scale the robots to the same height as the actual avatars.

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That'd make it make a bit more sense

glossy wharf
#

Yeah lets just load a 160k poly model on the quest

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Kappa 1 2 3

faint skiff
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@umbral reef That's what confused me, I thought all the defaults were crossplatform.

rough pulsar
#

Most of the defaults should be corss-platform. VRC_Thinking

glossy wharf
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The defaults are all cross platform, but didnt they say the other users in the hub?

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"No the ones made by vrchat i can see
but the other in like the hub i cant see"

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They are talking about other users, most likely desktop users.

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That have no quest equivalent

faint skiff
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Ah, I thought they meant the selectable avatars there, not the people.

umbral reef
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Ow then yea lmao
I tbh barely read what the guy wrote as its effort

faint skiff
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@flint wyvern Yeah, that'll never be "fixed" as it's by design. People without a Quest specific version of their avatar uploaded will show as robots. The Quest can't show the PC versions as it simply isn't powerful enough for many of them.

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Plus the models themselves have to be compiled with a different platform and SDK setup, so even if a model is super optimised and basic, it still has to be rebuilt on the new platform and uploaded by the author before it'll work.

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I wonder if VRC could themselves do an audit of the most used avatars, and then have a build-system setup to then, assuming the avatar falls within acceptable limits, build it automatically for Quest.

rough pulsar
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Without the source files that's not doable

tawny ore
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I was wondering about this - Is it not possible in-software to simply downsample the complexity of a model?

faint skiff
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Ah. I wasn't sure what could be done with just what's uploaded (as I wasn't sure what it does actually upload in the first place...)

final zodiac
#

You mean optimize? xD

tawny ore
#

Bleeding I meant - doing so on runtime (i.e. entering world)

rough pulsar
#

The texture format is different, the quest is limited with what shaders it can use and they're built for its GPU, there's probably some other platform-spefici stuff too.

final zodiac
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Ohh

faint skiff
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@tawny ore Most would need heavy decimation and texture atlasing, neither of which would work well automatically in many cases.

umbral reef
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@tawny ore The problem isnt just how optimized it is
Its literally on another unity build and cant talk to the other one.

rough pulsar
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All of which needs the original assets before they're built for the target platform.

umbral reef
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The information does not match on the windows and andriod build tl;dr

tawny ore
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Ooohhh I see

rough pulsar
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Which in general, vrchat have no access to.

proven karma
#

If it's uploaded, it's uploaded to VRC servers, if I'm correct. I'm the big dumb with tech, so I'm prolly wrong, but doesn't VRC have everything they need to build it for Quest

umbral reef
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Its why for cross platform avatars you have to upload it twice. Once on the normal and once andriod

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And they cant just use all avatars because copyright lmao

cold talon
#

Wait, having "future proofing" enabled doesn't upload the whole unit scene to the servers?

umbral reef
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It does so far i know

glossy wharf
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Future proofing is the whole scene with all assets.

faint skiff
rough pulsar
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It does, many people have problems with it and disable it.

faint skiff
#

Wait really? Is that why my uploads take so long? I really need to turn that off. My upstream is <4Mb/s

rough pulsar
#

Yup.

faint skiff
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God damn

rough pulsar
#

There's... other reasons it's good to turn it off.

proven karma
#

I mean I get Fiber optics in September so I'll be able to turn it back on then probably

glossy wharf
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Avatar yoinking

cold talon
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Usually when having multiple avatars in one scene or lots of assets from what I've experienced, that would be a way to get the avatar file, but automating the whole process to transform to quest would be quite complex, and could very easily result unforseen issues, especially with the shaders.

faint skiff
#

I'm already on Fibre 😦

glossy wharf
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Just whip your model into blender and see how well the automatic decimation works, then you know how good said plan is.

faint skiff
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The terrifying image I posted is how well that works, lol

cold talon
#

Exactly

faint skiff
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Pointyboi McAlienface

glossy wharf
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im kinda tempted to make quest versions of my avatars which are just 60 poly decimations lmao

umbral reef
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But still, copyright you know

glossy wharf
#

If you upload something to vrchat services you give them permission to use it and you state that you have all rights necessary

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copyright is not an issues at all.

faint skiff
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Ran into someone the other day who's Quest version of their avatar was just a 2D sprite image of the actual avatar, but the arms still moved. It was like watching Parappa the Rapper.

flint wyvern
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LOL

umbral reef
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Not that they can use it themselves
They are not safe from the safeharbor laws then

glossy wharf
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They literally are

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By saying the user agrees to having all rights when uploading content they secure themselves

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also they are a free service so its a grey area.

faint skiff
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I think they'd still have to prove that they've done due diligence, but yeah, it's a bit grey.

umbral reef
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Tl;dr rn if they dont know whats on there service they cant be blamed as all is on the users who upload it and they just host it
If they provide content themselves its more grey then something like YT or Imgur

cold talon
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Well, untill article 13 nation attacked

tawny ore
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Thing is, nobody makes money through these avatars (unless commissioning gets targetted)

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With no income going anywhere; how does it work then?

snow wadi
#

Ello fuzz o/

faint skiff
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@snow wadi I'm guessing you log off before it gets too late your time? I noticed I keep missing you but it's probably because I'm on so late.

snow wadi
#

Well right now it's 6:22pm

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Weekend tomorrow for me

faint skiff
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Ah, you're 3 hours ahead of me. So it's like 3am your time when I normally get on. That would explain it.

snow wadi
#

Yep :<

languid beacon
#

VRC got money from HTC and Facebook. A good majority of people buy headsets just to play this game.

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They are private with the details but that’s the assumption

umbral reef
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@tawny ore copyright still applies and can be protected when money isnt being earned from it
And you could even argue with the investors VRC has they have earned money and will in the future again

spice plume
#

yoo

vestal sleet
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Vrc is just a giant advertisement for VR

umbral reef
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Arent most VR games that?

vestal sleet
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Uh well in a different sense

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I mean it is very clear how beat Saber make money and what it does

spice plume
#

Um, is it just me or is like every server I go to

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Empty or has like 13 players.

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and half of them wont speak English.

umbral reef
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Try joining the more popular worlds

spice plume
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You know a good world that a lot of people join

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It doesn't show popular, just shows hot and the hottest one has 0 players

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and like 300 public

faint skiff
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Or ones not named Александр Алексей

spice plume
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Anyone know Mully?

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Worlds that he plays on

faint skiff
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Sculder and Mully?

umbral reef
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The 300 number is for the full world, not the instance. You want to look at the instance number

vocal shard
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How do I appear offline for friends? I saw someone join me but it never showed him online?

spice plume
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Yes, Mully and Ree Kid

vestal sleet
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Great pug void club never have I ever room of rain

faint skiff
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Look at the bottom of the window when you select a world, it should list some instances, some full, some empty. Annoyingly none in the middle.

spice plume
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Im in the world uganda

vestal sleet
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These world are usually very populated

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Well that why there is no one there

vocal shard
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The pug room is glitched for me

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Cant even join any of them

vestal sleet
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I think that the world list in general it show 0/0 sometime

spice plume
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Enverex, ill have to see that

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I play on PC

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Not VR, since I cant afford it.

vestal sleet
#

It is the same thing

spice plume
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Anyone know why when I walk up to someone they disappear

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and when I go back I see them

covert palm
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Personal space is on

umbral reef
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Within the settings there is a option related to personal space, forgot the exact name.

spice plume
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Um Hello

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I press my menu button then I press my unmute, it doesn't unmute

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Hello?

vestal sleet
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Just press V

spice plume
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Ok

fringe sentinel
still lark
#

What do you mean, it's already an avatar.

atomic swallow
#

Are they finally fixing these obnoxious bugs in the invite/social tabs? It's only getting worse and worse.

covert blade
#

And fix avatar cloning while they're at it

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The setting is bugged so when you turn it off, it might still be turned on somehow

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You don't know that until someone clones you though

faint skiff
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Yup. That one's a bit weird.

covert blade
#

Like how it happened yesterday. I cloned someone's avatar and he was like "Wait how did you do it I turned it off"

twin temple
#

Hey, does anyone know what happened to the spiderman meme in VRchat?

swift zodiac
#

D i b s

twin temple
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Who or what is D i b s? Or are you trying to make a joke?

swift zodiac
#

My life is a funny joke

twin temple
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But if it wasn't a joke how would you make people laugh?

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Everyone has meaning even if it's just to be a joke 3:.

vocal shard
#

Deep

covert palm
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I have been enlightened beyond comprehension.

spice plume
#

Anyone know any VR Chat Avatar Worlds that provide you with skins that are memes?

covert blade
twin temple
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@spice plume I know a spiderverse world

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Spiderman is a meme right now right?

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I'll send a link to the world somewhere on the server or DM it if I can't find the channel

vestal sleet
#

There is Spiderman meme ?

covert blade
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@twin temple And you need some of these -> 👓

tame fiber
#

Installing unity editor

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It’s taking so long

twin temple
#

Can we please report Mason, just cause I tried to help him out, he just started DMing me a bunch of insults and deleted them so I can't screen shot them.

tame fiber
#

Wow

past cosmos
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get used to it

covert blade
past cosmos
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thats the internet for ya

covert blade
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Full chat log, nothing was removed here. I blocked him because I simply didn't care so he would stop DM'ing me

tame fiber
#

So corn fused

past cosmos
#

moving away from this landmine

atomic swallow
#

Potato quality screenshot.

covert blade
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How's that potato quality?

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It's as good as it gets ± imgurs compression

past cosmos
#

you both need to kiss and make up

covert blade
#

I just blocked him so I don't have to see him again :) Just had to clarify because apparently he also likes spreading lies

vocal shard
#

𝔖𝔠𝔬𝔯𝔭𝔦𝔬𝔫𝔥𝔞𝔯𝔱

past cosmos
#

i really dont give a crap

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stop fighting

covert blade
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I'm not, lol

vocal shard
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𝔖𝔠𝔬𝔯𝔭𝔦𝔬𝔫𝔥𝔞𝔯𝔱 u take back "my love"

past cosmos
#

in fact it would amusing to see two weridos duking it out

vocal shard
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𝔖𝔠𝔬𝔯𝔭𝔦𝔬𝔫𝔥𝔞𝔯𝔱 e.e

past cosmos
#

your cropping skills need work however

covert blade
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How so?

past cosmos
#

it looks like it was done with 144p res

vocal shard
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@covert blade can i kick 𝔖𝔠𝔬𝔯𝔭𝔦𝔬𝔫𝔥𝔞𝔯𝔱's ass? e.e

covert blade
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It's done using ShareX and auto uploaded to imgur. The quality when I open the image is literally the same as it is on my desktop

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Sorry for being a 1080p peasant I guess

past cosmos
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1080

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oh lawdy

vocal shard
#

@past cosmos

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The image is sharp from what I can see. If you open imgur on some devices, it is low res though.

But besides that, let's move on. Let's keep this chat vrchat related. Thanks

faint skiff
#

So... some weather we're having, right?

covert blade
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In VRchat?

past cosmos
#

muggy over here

vocal shard
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-sigh-

past cosmos
#

though its mainly from the weird weather

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heatwaves where i'm at

covert blade
#

Speaking of weather maybe I'll go pay the "Purity" map a visit again

vocal shard
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@past cosmos

covert blade
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Just a rainy forest with a hill to climb and nice ambience

past cosmos
#

my area is gonna be prone to blackouts because of the crap weather

faint skiff
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@covert blade If you're in-game, can you check out my map and make sure the framerate is OK?

vocal shard
#

is he kidding with me? e.e

faint skiff
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I screwed something up last time and was getting 14 fps

covert blade
#

Is he still talking to me?

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@faint skiff Uhm, sure just DM me the details I'll be on some time later

faint skiff
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I think I've fixed it now but need someone to double check that I'm not just brute-forcing performance now

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@covert blade Just search "greenhaven" and that should pop it up.

covert blade
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Should I test it in VR or desktop?

faint skiff
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VR, desktop performance always seems fine regardless

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(for some reason)

covert blade
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Well okay then imma test it real quick

faint skiff
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Thanks

covert blade
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@faint skiff The world doesn't show up in the search list

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I tried "greenhave" and just "green" too

faint skiff
covert blade
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I guess I'll just join using the website then

faint skiff
#

It should show up. I'll have to try searching for it myself later then, just to check.

covert blade
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FPS: 45

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Seems like there's quite something going on there

faint skiff
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Hmm ok. Something weird must be going on with the lights still.

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Oh, before you go, do the trees look out of focus for you? Like your eyes won't focus properly on them?

covert blade
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I didn't notice that being the case

faint skiff
#

Hmm ok, thanks for that.

covert blade
#

But at least it's not the 14 FPS from before

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Maybe community labs worlds don't show up in search?

faint skiff
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I thought they did. It's had 400 visits so far and only about 5 are from me.

twin temple
#

Damn man, that screen shot blew up though, I left for a bit, and all I see is people talking about that screen shot, I mean it is really bad, and it is obvious he is trolling Discord doesn't show deleted messages and he obvious cropped that out extremely hard.

I am not kissing or making up with anyone, I just want to say. Can we all please calm down, gezz. Just think about happy thoughts everyone, or your happy place I guess makes sense. If you have some place you like to go or some place you like to be think about that. VRchat is just a game man, raging because of a map you don't listen isn't very professional. Just think about all the happy things out there guys.

ruby needle
#

I really dont know what this is about, but better discord can keep messages that get deleted.

twin temple
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Ya, but not in a screen shot.

vestal sleet
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so

twin temple
#

Either way, we all should just forget about it and move on as I said.

vestal sleet
#

why are we still on this topic

vocal shard
#

Bananas

twin temple
#

Ya, let's talk about Bananas

vocal shard
#

Bananas are actually a supreme snack prove me wrong

final zodiac
#

Not if you pronounce it as "ba-nuhh-nuhzz"

twin temple
#

Did you know Bananas are an excellent source of potassium?\

final zodiac
#

Damn Brits

vocal shard
#

Excuse me bleeding I am Australian and I am offended

final zodiac
#

aevSip 🍿

vocal shard
#

Give us a narna mate

final zodiac
#

Come to Indonesia we have purple bananas

vocal shard
#

What the shit

twin temple
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@vocal shard I heard Bananas make a very great source of mouth pleasure. It's extremely good to taste and enjoy.

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It's amazing in shakes and smoothies.

vocal shard
#

Banana, mouth pleasure.. heh

twin temple
#

What's funny about it man, It's a pleasure to taste something good right? It's like, It's a pleasant taste, a pleasurable experience. I don't understand why the word pleasure is funny 3:.

vocal shard
#

I’ll see myself out 😅

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Look it’s 3am, anything is funny to me right now lmao

covert blade
#

When you upload a screenshot in original quality and people complain about the quality

vocal shard
#

Mason what do you like about bananas?

covert blade
#

I don't really eat bananas :p

vocal shard
#

Heathen!

covert blade
#

But yeah. Also: Stop blaming me for your device not showing the full resolution of imgur uploaded screenshot :P

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Can't upload stuff here directly, otherwise I would

vocal shard
#

@bleeding indonesia?

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Bali is lit

uncut crag
#

has the wmr kit been out for years and yet still has basic problems like drifting day one

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*hasnt

vocal shard
#

What do you mean?

uncut crag
#

both of my joysticks have drifting

final zodiac
#

Yes, Indonesia

uncut crag
#

and you cant recalibrate or configure them back to zero in steamvr

vocal shard
#

That's not normal

uncut crag
#

i looked everywhere and I even turned on the steamvr beta for the test controller option

lyric urchin
#

hefty, what method of bluetooth are you using to connect?

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usb dongle or motherboard/pci?

uncut crag
#

why would bluetooth be the big issue here?

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as far as im concerned motherboard? since it has built in bluetooth

lyric urchin
#

it's a major factor when it comes to WMR

uncut crag
#

ok

vocal shard
#

Bluetooth is very important with wmr controllers

uncut crag
#

do I need a better dongle?

#

wait no

vocal shard
#

It's recommended to use a USB dongle

lyric urchin
#

i would suggest getting a USB dongle

uncut crag
#

Do I need a dongle at all

#

Oh, so onboard bluetooth just sucks is all

lyric urchin
#

pretty much yeah

uncut crag
#

and thats why everything works besides the joysticks drifting?

vocal shard
#

@bleeding thats is country where i live in, but i dont know purple banana's

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Motherboard Bluetooth can have issues since it can have interface from the case, and other computer components

uncut crag
#

you sure its that and not a mechanical issue with the sticks

lyric urchin
#

i was running bluetooth on a PCI card which boded for a while until said drifting issues started kicking in
i upgraded to a bluetooth 4 dongle

uncut crag
#

well it would be awesome if I could tell if it was bluetooth or not

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unfortunately there is no real troubleshooting

vocal shard
#

How to I reset sound again? Both shifts and what?

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Someone told me in game and already forgot

faint skiff
#

@vocal shard I'd be amazed if the motherboard bluetooth didn't use an external antenna, otherwise it just wouldn't work

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I use onboard Intel bluetooth mPCI cards on all my machines and it's infinitely better and more reliable than any USB bluetooth adaptor you could buy.

twin temple
#

I know the feeling man, 3: I got a PC that cost me 3k dollars, and I can't even use the Vive VRheadset I got 3:.

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Screen shots in VR are absolute amazing.

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You always get high quality on those.

vocal shard
#

True. But it still stands from experience that a dongle is much more reliable when it comes to wmr. This is widely known in the WMR community. Also, using it in USB 2.0, as 3.0 causes some interface as well.

It could be something unique to wmr, as their controllers are rather picky. Even the types of batteries you use can change how the controllers track and how they act

twin temple
#

For some reason my Vrheadset stopped working

faint skiff
#

That sounds terrible. Glad I've avoided WMR.

lyric urchin
#

mine was a cheap edup pci card that i impulse bought

vocal shard
#

When it's set up properly and working well, I like it. Use it more than my Rift

lyric urchin
#

same (don't own a rift or vive though however)

twin temple
#

@faint skiff What is WMR some kind of advanced world war tech that is keeping all the countries from creating bombs and blowing each other up?

vocal shard
#

Windows Mixed Reality. A type of VR headset

twin temple
#

Oh

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I heard that they were going to make it amazing in 48 years.

vocal shard
#

What?

twin temple
#

They said that windows mixed reality is going to change the world in 48 years.

uncut crag
#

is there a way to push the software IPD beyond its limits btw? getting tired of blurry bs

twin temple
#

I think I heard that like 20-40 years ago I don't remember.

lyric urchin
#

no unfortunately, that's one of the downsides of WMR

uncut crag
#

Bruh what am I supposed to do

twin temple
#

They said it was some top secret government technology the world wasn't suppose to learn about until recently, and they were going to mass produce it in order to keep us all entertained.

lyric urchin
#

mine has a sweet spot i have to move my eyes towards, but the latest update made shit more clear than it's ever been before

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i'm using the HP hmd (not the reverb)

uncut crag
#

i am regretting my purchase for its various issues

faint skiff
#

That's a very specific amount of time

twin temple
#

@faint skiff I mean, to be honest they said like 48 years, 3 months, 1 day, 4 hours, 24 minutes, and 59 seconds.

uncut crag
#

it sounds like the person telling us this information is on crack

lyric urchin
#

hefty where did you order yours from? you should be able to return it

uncut crag
#

amazon

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is there really nothing I can do about IPD?

snow wadi
#

I haz food \o/

uncut crag
#

i suppose I got what I got for that cheap $300 price

vocal shard
#

If you're well outside the IPD range, there's not much you can do. It should be able to support 59-67

uncut crag
#

all of them look blurry

vocal shard
#

@snow wadi is it a banana?!

snow wadi
#

Chinese food o.o;

uncut crag
#

and I dont have a ruler. with MM

vocal shard
#

Oh YUM

uncut crag
#

afaic i have 56 ipd ish?

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i heard if you change the registry value manually you can get that working

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on a steam forum

lyric urchin
#

damn, wish i had some chinese food right about now

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and my vrchat world apparently didn't update hackspanner

vestal sleet
#

I don't know if any headset support 56 ipd

uncut crag
#

how come theres such a piss poor support why dont they have a mechanical lens adjuster

vocal shard
#

56... I don't know is any VR goes that low
Even the rift CV1 range was 58 lowest

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With mechanical ipd

uncut crag
#

so do I just send it back and stick with playing 2d games then

vestal sleet
#

Unfortunately that is probably the case or you have to live with it

uncut crag
#

is there like some physical impossibility to provide support for this kind of completely basic thing

vestal sleet
#

No but it is not a cost effective solution

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Look like pimax go to 55 actually I just looked

vocal shard
#

Makes sense. Pimax lenses are massive

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But then you're over $1000 for a VR system again, and need a beast computer to run it

faint skiff
#

I've tried setting the IPD on my headset from 60 to 70 and genuinely cannot see any difference. Am I blind?

covert palm
#

Nah, you just have the best vision in the world and are capable of seeing anything clearly.

vocal shard
#

Probably right in the middle. Like 65, so always in range. I'm closer to 60, so if it's too large it gets blurry

faint skiff
#

I literally see and feel no change at all. I know the knobs working because I can feel it moving against my eyebrows and nose as I change it. It's annoying because I have no idea what it should be.

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IIRC when I measured it ages ago my IPD was around 63 but that doesn't feel any different than 70+

flint ore
#

Is anyone having connection problesm?

past cosmos
#

nope

#

green on my end

timid quiver
#

i am

flint ore
#

huh, keeps telling me that im timed out

timid quiver
#

it just got fixed tho

flint ore
#

okay, its fine for me again

rough flax
#

reeeeeeee

vocal shard
#

Rip vrc servers

final zodiac
#

Lmao

rough flax
#

rip vrc servers

#

everyone's ik is frozen vrpill

fervent ermine
#

rip

rough flax
#

Quick @ everyone vrpill

west knoll
#

for reals

crimson bridge
#

Well, this was a bad time to get 2.5 hours into the climbing carnival map...

west knoll
#

i was about to hop on :(

faint skiff
#

Hmm, I'm just getting a black screen after the world loaded.

vocal shard
#

why was i timed out :((

plain anvil
#

Carnival Map was one of my worst ideas this week.

broken cobalt
#

is sometinhg weird with vrchat server

rough flax
#

reeeeeee

ruby needle
#

@vocal shard please stop posthing this nonsense

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thank you

vocal shard
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ok jake paul

wanton plover
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good that wasnt only me having this issue

vocal shard
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:))

rough flax
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deleted user about to actually be deleted user.

covert blade
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Okay

rough flax
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tupper where's our @ everyone announcment saying vrchat is having issues D:

valid frost
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@vocal shard Your message could not be delivered because you are faking those chat messages

tacit plank
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2019.07.18 20:11:45 Log - [87, 403, Get, -1] Abandoning request, because: "Invalid Admin Credentials" Should I worry about this?

valid frost
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caffeine

tacit plank
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Yo

valid frost
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do you know how to make a weapon trigger? ( Aka on a position on a htc vive controller a weapon pops up? )

tacit plank
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You need to get the weapon yourself somehow. To make it be held as a weapon, you set the hold orientation to "gun" in the pickup component I believe

polar elm
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Servers broke

broken cobalt
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reeee

inner cape
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@rough flax tupper here, we're aware of issues and are investigating. :^)

grizzled belfry
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Servers broke again? At such an inconvenient time aswell.

polar elm
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Oh no midday on a Thursday.....

dusk mesa
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it happens

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calm 😄

sonic verge
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dem servers decide to yeet

crimson bridge
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You know, it'd be real great if the friends list was actually working too. Instead of just having one friend online, have all of them online and equally have that check not be stuck per instance too.

inner cape
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waiting for vrc bot online count to update

wanton plover
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seems you can log in fine now

inner cape
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wait, the number went up LUL

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get out of here people, the server is fine

onyx musk
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Saw you and me are getting the same thing

sonic verge
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welp there it goes again for me lol

crimson bridge
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I know I have more than one friend online... Game, stop lying to me... Don't overlook this..

polar elm
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Someone tripped over the power cord i bet

onyx musk
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Lol

tawny ore
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VRC is highly unstable at the moment XD

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Got booted from multiple rooms; some quest users reported seeing PC-only models for a moment too

inner cape
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lmao

vocal shard
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Weard the Devs did not give info why it happen -_-

inner cape
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dyatlov must be running tests out there again

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nuclear powered servers of vrchat

still lark
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@tacit plank that message is normal and fine

inner cape
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people having trouble yet the online count keeps going up

plain anvil
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The bot lies.

inner cape
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so it would seem

tawny ore
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So how's everyone today? I shall repurpose this VRChat-general into a random chat because VRChat is all about discussing VRChats refusal to keep me online 😄

covert blade
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I dunno if I'm just late or blind but the bot doesn't have a counter anymore

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Oh now it does

inner cape
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it keeps going up

vocal shard
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uwAH

languid beacon
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Quest users seeing PC only avatars is interesting and I’m not sure if I believe it

tawny ore
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Well a quest user told me that; so I'm partially happy to hear it

languid beacon
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It’s impossible and it was probably just a cross play avatar

slate verge
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it was probably a crossplay avatar

languid beacon
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My avatar is 32000 tris on PC and 7500 tris on Quest, few seem to realize you can do that

covert blade
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Apparently, Quest users can see their own avatars regardless of whether it is crossplay or not

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But all the other avatars are hidden for them (even if they have an excellent performance rating)

languid beacon
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If it’s quest only or cross play yes they can see it

covert blade
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No, it was not a quest avatar

languid beacon
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If it’s PC only of course they can’t see it

covert blade
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They can see their own avatar regardless

languid beacon
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They can’t even wear a Pc only avatar

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They get an error message

umbral reef
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Its not on the right unity build even then so i highly doubt it

covert blade
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Hmmmm

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¯_(ツ)_/¯

languid beacon
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Would you probably are confused about is a quest user can their own quest avatar, even if it far exceeds their own polygon limit of 10 K. But no one else will be able to see them

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However it must still have been uploaded as a quest avatar

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I guess some quest users may not care about other quest users seeing them and just upload their high poly avatar on both pc and quest builds :p

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All of PC users see them, and they see themselves. Good enough for them I guess

faint skiff
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My avatar is ~64000 tris on PC and 9998 on Quest. Talk about cutting it close 😛

vocal shard
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wich avatar is better to do, the one with a bunch of polygons or the ones with the lowest?

faint skiff
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As low as you can get it while still looking good.

vocal shard
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tell me this, for the avatar we are making, we can't use parts from other creator, right?

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i mean like, body or head

faint skiff
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You can (assuming the other creator doesn't mind)

vocal shard
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ok alright, thanks

jovial pulsar
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Is VRC experiencing issues right now? All of us in this lobby are seeing each other teleport around and sometimes getting sent back to the home world

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There's also issues with going to other worlds that it'll just kick you out of the game right now, happened to a bunch of us for the last 30 mins

steady kayak
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Server problems?

snow wadi
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Server is experiencing issues right now

jovial pulsar
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Seems like it

languid beacon
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Personally I consider 7500 tris to be the max for quest as anything above that is blocked by default quest settings

faint skiff
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It's 10k rather than 7500 afaik judging from what the SDK said. (unless Poor isn't the default, which I thought it was)

languid beacon
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7501 to 10000 are poor and blocked by default but can be shown

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10001 and above can never be shown

faint skiff
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Ah, that must be what I was thinking of

languid beacon
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7500 is the max for medium

vestal pier
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gotta get that excellent

languid beacon
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I am excellent on pc good enough for me

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I’ll take quest medium

vestal pier
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I think my quest one is actually good rating im not sure though

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excellent on pc

torn nebula
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@languid beacon very poor avatars can be shown on quest by selecting show avatar for the user

faint skiff
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That's a per-user thing though rather than a global setting, so probably not the best to aim for

torn nebula
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Right. But it is theoretically possible

languid beacon
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People say that however I have been getting conflicting reports on that some quest users saying it doesn’t work. I guess I’ll know for sure once I have my own.

pure hemlock
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My avatar went from Good to Poor just by adding a few dynamic bones for the hair >_>

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When there is a Dynamic Bone limiter in place, why am I being ranked so harshly for having some for my hair? I don't even have colliders

languid beacon
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A single dynamic bone script will make every transform below it into a dynamic bone. A single script can be very laggy if it has a ton of children. It may have more than you think

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I personally think the medium limits for dynamic bone scripts are plenty

covert blade
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This is the user in question. It looks a lot like a non quest avatar based on that picture. But I know that it is a quest user

rigid crescent
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i mean there's a chance it has a quest variant

covert blade
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Then I'm just gonna go into that world where that's from and see if any of these are quest ready

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Maybe they are I dunno

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Or VRchat is just lying again

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Okay then VRchat

meager solstice
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I mean it should be quest compatible

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From the pic

covert blade
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Yeah but the first pic made it look like it wasn't

meager solstice
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🤷

covert blade
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¯_(ツ)_/¯

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If I were to use FBT with an avatar where the floor level isn't where the feet are, how would that look?

rigid crescent
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bad

covert blade
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Huh. Odd thing is I've seen people use the avatar I currently have where the floor level is above the ingame floor and it seemed to have worked fine

rigid crescent
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i mean theyll float if their feet arent on the ground

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and without playspace mover youll just stay floating

reef oak
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anyone know why i cant get in?

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keeps going to black

covert blade
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I guess that explains why pretty much every FBT user I have seen so far had the playspace mover

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Except they usually used it to float on purpose

faint skiff
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Floating people really, really bothers me. It sounds stupid in worlds full of random creatures, but it's the one thing that immediately breaks all immersion and takes me back to "I'm stood in a room wearing a VR headset".

reef oak
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i also says "this is an announcement fghuhgdcvebdhflijhrtyjpoiuhberyhpfoidjhwethmnphgokjrtgplkrfoktgikjtfgok " then doesnt load

ruby needle
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this typically hints to some kind of connectivity issue

reef oak
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hecc

covert blade
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Servers seem to be drunk at the moment

queen mango
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6k people are playing fine atm. You sure it isn't your connection getting iffy?

umbral reef
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Nah the 6K are wrong 👀

covert blade
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Everyone on the server were frozen in place and other's on that server were commenting on it

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I don't believe in such a coincidence that two completely random people manage to both get the same issue at the same time

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And I recall that a few hours ago people were complaining quite a lot about the servers here

inner cape
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6k is definitely wrong

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a lot of people are having issues rn

covert blade
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I bet the bot just counts the amount of people currently playing. Of course once you get randomly booted off the server you are being reconnected pretty quickly

vocal shard
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bot just displays how many users are active in the api

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so it is accurate

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its delayed on the count but it is accurate :p

covert blade
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Accurate in the sense that they are active, inaccurate in representing how many of these users are on instances that have connectivity problems

vocal shard
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can someone buy me a cr heatset

covert blade
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Again, a few hours ago the channels were full of people complaining with the bot still showing like 5,8k users active

vocal shard
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vr

covert blade
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No, why would anyone?

vocal shard
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when you say a bunch do you mean a couple?

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because there nice? someone bought me a 35$ game before

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because i asked

rigid crescent
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lol

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35 dollar game = 500 dollar headset tanabae

covert blade
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There were like at least 5+ different people coming here complaining about it all at the same time

vocal shard
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5 / 6000 is a bunch

faint skiff
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Yeah, I was getting a black screen earlier as well

vocal shard
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c:

faint skiff
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So there is /was an issue

covert blade
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Yeah because all 6k users are on this Discord amirite?

vocal shard
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vr is straight up dodo in decktop mode

rigid crescent
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Then don't play? Or get VR?

languid beacon
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If you have access to a quest and a pc you can log in with any avatar you want on the wrong system. You won’t see it on yourself

vocal shard
covert blade
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@vocal shard

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So?

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Does that prove that everyone currently playing is also here?

vocal shard
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pretty sure a majority of those are people playing right now c:

faint skiff
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Joined server != actually active there

covert blade
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You keep believing in such coincidences

faint skiff
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That's one thing that makes discord so annoying

languid beacon
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Also that’s @languid smelt you can just ask them yourself

covert blade
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@languid beacon I know that. I've talked to her personally while in a world. That's why I was curious

languid smelt
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yesssss???

covert blade
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Nothin'

vocal shard
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if you are having issues attempt to sign in to the website, have issues there? tweet at vrc c:

faint skiff
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@covert blade I think it shows like that if you're in a PC only world

languid smelt
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i am confusion

faint skiff
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(even if the avatar should be Quest compatible)

languid smelt
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or they have t oclick on me and click show avatar

languid beacon
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The icons are confusing. On avatar pictures on menus, they show what services can see that avatar. On nametags, they instead show which version of vrchat they are currently using .

covert blade
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And when you click on their profile and look at that, it just showed PC only for me

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Even though all avatars from that world are quest compatible

languid beacon
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If a quest user can see it than it has a quest build and the menu is wrong

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Or they fixed the bug and it now shows that they are currently using pc

covert blade
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At this point I'm wondering what part of the menu actually isn't broken in some way

vocal shard
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answer to that is the buttons they have disabled xd

languid beacon
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I would recommend not depending on menu icons. The one on nametags is dependable and will tell you if they are using quest or not

covert blade
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Yes I've noticed that also when playing with Cozy

vocal shard
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the ui definitely needs work thats for sure

covert blade
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I already know that. What I was confused about is that I thought those avatars were PC only

rigid crescent
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one day we'll get that early 2019 UI update lol

languid beacon
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If a Pc user wears a crossplay avatar their name tag will incorrectly say it PC only.

HOWEVER...

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A quest user can log in on pc, wear a Pc only avatar; switch to quest and still be wearing it; and pc users will see it fine although quest users won’t see it themselves. If they do, it’s crossplay

covert blade
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Huh

vocal shard
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?

languid beacon
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I give up trying to explain /shrug

rigid crescent
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read the documentation, youll be fine

covert blade
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I don't even know why this is still something you felt explaining. I already checked the world again and verified that the entire world had quest compatible avatars = the social tab was lying (as usual)

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I've mentioned that.

vocal shard
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I apologise to anyone who had to suffer my obnoxious avatar effects ealier lmao

worn hollow
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Damn its just so god damn hard to find/make friends, i got a rift s, playing for 3/4 weeks, i am pretty social,.
But everyone is behind privates, friend/friends+, public is full with small group of friends, trolls, memes.

rigid crescent
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🤔 you can join friends+though

torpid ibex
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is there a way to reduce quality for vrchat?

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keep crashing on the pc version

rigid crescent
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everything is user uploaded, so not really. what are your specs if youre crashing on desktop?...

torpid ibex
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Its an old dell from a couple years ago

vocal shard
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Anyone here up to play some vrc?

torpid ibex
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It usaully works well with most games

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but uhhh for somereason its having a hard time with vrchat

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a Dell Precision M 6700

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the vr version works better for some reason

jovial pulsar
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Guys, are there still connection issues in VRC? People are timing out in my lobby

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There were issues earlier today as well where people would get kicked off the game randomly or sent back to their home world

shell hare
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Does anybody want to try a horror map later with me? I’ve gotten pasta the first little bit but after that I have no idea what’s to come lol

vocal shard
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Sure man whats your vrc name?

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@shell hare

shell hare
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Lord shaxx

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Pretty close to my discord one🙃

green orchid
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my vrchat neckroped

shell hare
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What you mean @green orchid

green orchid
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it killed itself

shell hare
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Sorry man😐

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@vocal shard I’m in the home world🙂

vocal shard
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What avatar are you using?

shell hare
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Rather tall hat (the bird

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Or it might be zone tan idk

vocal shard
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I sent you it

shell hare
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It’s glitchy with me

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What is your vr chat name?

vocal shard
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ImAGamer

shell hare
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Anime avatar?

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I think I’ve got it

vocal shard
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Yeah

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I accepted

shell hare
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Join up on me🙂

vocal shard
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Im not in vr right now just doin some shzi quick with some custom avatars

shell hare
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I’ll be in the pug then, see you soon

vocal shard
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Okie see ya soon

shell hare
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@vocal shard it’s gonna take a while to load btw

vocal shard
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aight

shell hare
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Lmk when you get in

vocal shard
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im almost in

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@shell hare

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were in bby

shell hare
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I’ll be there in like 30 seconds

vocal shard
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kk

shell hare
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My game just died I’m joining back in

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Don’t go further I’ll be there in a sec

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I’m back

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@vocal shard if you don’t want to do it it’s fine, I don’t mind, I know this isn’t for everyone

eternal locust
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anyone wanna play?

shell hare
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@eternal locust I’m down, what you wanna do?

eternal locust
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im going with @vocal shard

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wanna join us man?

shell hare
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Sure thing

eternal locust
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ok ill dm ok?

rigid crescent
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<@&397642795457970181> doot doot fake scare mongering

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do more research before you spread chain letters :3

shell hare
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Juts beat the great pig secret basement stage

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Pug

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“The dire pug”

rigid crescent
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oh spooky basement

shell hare
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Yep

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I’ve got a photo of the end

rigid crescent
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i actually forgot that was there, i didnt think it was still on the map

shell hare
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I’m not gonna show it here though

rigid crescent
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its from an old ARG event

shell hare
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I could dm it

rigid crescent
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or maybe it was there before that? I dunno.

shell hare
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Is it over now?

rigid crescent
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Not sure, the maps to do the stuff on mgiht still be available

shell hare
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There’s a website link that takes you to a google form, I filled it out a minute ago and now I’m gonna wait for a response

rich shard
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So am I gonna be proven its false? or what lol

rigid crescent
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are you gonna prove its real?

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🤔

rich shard
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i was sent this by 5 people

rigid crescent
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so does that prove it's real?

rich shard
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i cant tell if it is or not

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all i do know is that there are exploits in bots

shell hare
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I’ll dm you guys the final part of you want

rigid crescent
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stuff like that is, generally, fake unless it's proven not

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like more often than not it's a hoax

shell hare
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Can’t post it here

rich shard
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well either way

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we will see

rigid crescent
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i guess

rich shard
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im just spreading the word so if it is true then everyone was warned ahead of time

shell hare
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I want to figure out the rest of it

rigid crescent
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all that does is cause fear mongering and spreads lies so

shell hare
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If it is true

queen mango
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Unless it can be proven that it is a real threat, it will just be viewed as a hoax.

rigid crescent
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probably better not to ever spread any image like that because they're, like i siad, almost always fake

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and any time they aren't fake, there's proof. if you havent seen actual proof then its a lie

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kinda circular there lol

shell hare
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Did you get my picture?

rigid crescent
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yes i did ive already seen it, i did the map when it was added lol

shell hare
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Ok nvm

smoky pike
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Morning

eternal locust
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morning

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anyone still playing

scarlet trellis
#

does anyone have someting said to u It would seem like you've been banned.?

rigid crescent
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does it ban you ingame? someone mentioned that earlier

scarlet trellis
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maybe its a bug

hidden scaffold
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Hi.

rigid crescent
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Try .com

vocal shard
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yeah its the website

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i just messaged a mod about it

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idk if i can post gyazo links but

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oh its not imbedded nvrmind

sharp saddle
#

I made Trusted finally. VRC_Happy

rigid crescent
#

You've ascended. Now you just need to hit LEGEND

sharp saddle
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Oof.

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If only.

rigid crescent
#

One day

still lark
#

👀

covert chasm
vast tulip
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Hmm

rigid crescent