#vrchat-general-2
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By your logic all the admins would be everyones friend
Except Fpaul and elire
Yes
Yes they are everyone's friends
Not necessarily. I haven't met some of them yet, properly. 
Elire pls ;-;
:smort
Chat seems quiet.
Yeah, happens alot weh a certain green user starts talking
Sometimes the ability to defuse the chat works a little, too well
So I see. Haven't been in VRChat these days.
🤔
Why is the video player so unreliable?
The entire game is unreliable
anyone else struggling to connect to the game, or just me? cant log in, continous connection lost
Hello, it's been over 2 days that I play 3 4 hours vrchat but I still have not received the grade to make skin is it normal?
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Yep, it's perfectly normal. Try spending up to a week or more.
In other words, focus more on socializing than making.
That's a common theme in this game
Trying to make something invariably ends up in frustration anyway
And if anyone comes here wondering, yes, I also just got that Discord spam message.
I’d probably have twice as many hours logged if I wasn’t in blender /unity making stuff
Took me 70hrs to get known user
I was trusted from the start (at 800 hours), got up to "veteran" in the API internally 100 hours later
It’s not time based
And then got demoted to known in an instant :^)
Not solely time based at the very least
We only know that friends and content is a factor
I had User from the start, got known after about 100, now I'm at around 4-500 and still known lmao
And that lots of blocks or mutes gives you nuisance rank
My total speculation is that it’s 0% time based. Things can happen while just standing around wasting time but don’t necessarily happen.
As stated by FPaul:
"Becoming verified by the trust system is based on reaching a not time based trust score, which's exact algorithm is unknown to prevent exploitation.
You presumably need to play the game in a normal manner with your VRChat account, walking around, meeting people and also making some friends. Idling won't help.
According to many responses in this Discord, a rough estimate would be 20-40 hours, but big exceptions are possible.
Make sure you are not using a Steam or Oculus account because those can not be verified and continue playing the game until you get a notification or e-mail."
(Update 'from Elire' ; while Steam and Oculus accounts still cannot be verified, they can now be merged with your VRChat account, transferring everything from the former two to the latter one)
http://help.vrchat.com/kb/article/27-why-cant-i-upload-avatars-or-worlds-yet
I propose that trust is clearly determined by the number of headpats given and received.
Then I should be triple trusted.
uhui
do you get bonus points for putting people to sleep/falling asleep?
if youre not already unmuted
is there a cross thru ur mic
Press your menu button, and you should see a mic with a 🚫 through it. Click on that.
check the settings in vrc to see if its using the right mic too
I went from trusted user to new user, how do I fix this? I haven't been reported afaik
damn logged on after a month and the first public world I go to a user crashes the whole room nice 👍
@sharp saddle strix! you boosted vrchat server too yay!
I did, yes!
its an honor
move the joystick in the opposite direction it's drifting and blow/spray compressed air into the base at the other side, should fix that
@uncut crag take away the keys for a week and then it should stop 
You could also exit VRChat and launch it again without moving the sticks before it launches, some unity games tend to lock onto a defaut position before launching and that includes thumbstick position. So if you had the stick pushed in any direction before launching it will lock into that postion as default thus casuing you to move in an unwanted direction. I had a Lenovo Explorer WMR so I do have experience with its shenanigans. xD
Also, moaning!

Oh one other thing, try to turn off the controller by holding down the Windows Button until you feel a long vibrattion, then switching it on again.
Try that before my first suggestion!
i have turned my controllers on and off various times
also for games that are not vrchat
i would need a solution
Did this just start happening?
hry everyone
Very possible it's either defective or got damaged during shipping.
What WMR set do you have?
acer
lmao
Hey people, im new on this discord server, really debating buying a vr headset, but which should i buy? ive looked at the rift and the vive but im not really sure
Depends on your budget really and how much your willing to spend
It's a choice you'll have to make yourself in the end. Both headset has their pros and cons. If you got anyone you know that has either, i'd suggest you try it there.
thought the main 3 PC ones I can think of are the rift, vive, and index.
WMR is also a big group
Thanks for the answers 😃
These climbing worlds are awsome, now someone needs to make one where you climb Mt Everst with Batman.
<@&397642795457970181>
Got him now.
@uncut crag Play Eurobeat and enjoy it
what
@uncut crag That was in response to your "drift" comment earlier which appears to have been much earlier than I realised.
Well moving from a 980Ti to a 2080Ti took me from 35fps to 60fps in the Pug so I guess... yay? lol
Que?
Exactly
My snek is nearly done. Just need to figure out why he's so wiggly like he's just had 6 coffees and has his tail angled into the ground in game.
But the head and arms work now at least after tricking it into accepting a human rig. It kept complaining about missing body part mappings before despite them being mapped.
When unity begs for specific bones I just build them in blender but without weight painting them.
That's what I did and then mapped them in the rig, but the descriptor still claimed they weren't they, despite being there and being mapped. I deleted it, reimported it and it worked. No idea why it was being weird.
Like if I have a model that has 3 fingers, the rig has 5 but are just there for the sake of being there
Ah yeah if you make any changes or want to make changes to your rig in blender, set the model to non humanoid before import, after import set it to humanoid again. It will actually remember the mapping you've done as well.
It doesn't remember the mapping. I was fiddling last night and every time I switched from humanoid to anything else (e.g. generic) and back again it would clear the mappings (and put them back to the incorrect defaults)
Yeeesh D:
I wouldn't mind so much but I had to keep remapping every part of the hands and fingers which was super tedious (it would start at the first finger rather than thumb so I had to shift everything back one)
Mornimg
Amazing, the Vive tracking pucks are now £160 each. You can almost buy an entire Rift S headset for the price of 2 pucks...
And if you put a 3rd puck in there and 3 lighthouses - you can buy a Rift S and eat for a month too
That actually makes replacement Vive controllers a cheaper option than pucks. A third party needs to come along and make them.
Cmon China, hurry up.
And they shall be called You're A Wizard, Harry HTC replacement Vive wands. Made in China.
I should look into seeing if the actual components are available and making one myself or something, see how feasible that is.
I think you can actually build your own with parts if you were to visit china, parts are dirt cheap but assembly will have to be from your end.
I have several 3D printers so assembly wouldn't be a big issue.
Tbh even parts from china are not dirt cheap anymore unless bought in bulk
Heck you could 3D print the casings yourself.
And depending how deep you want to build your part, component or circuit level its pricy still
Actually they still are pretty cheap, you should check out strange parts YouTube channel. An American living in China and he's all about putting gadgets together made from...well dirt cheap parts. he built his own iPhone too xD
I often do that stuff and just get everything from Alix express (like an 6 months shipping for a fucking screw but its dirt cheap)
Often getting things from india works just as good if not cheaper because the labor there is cheaper then in china now
trackers are still same price for me
who the hell wants to walk around controllers strapped to their body, thats even more clumsy...
Hmm, the sensors used are nearly $7 each so that's clearly a considerable part of the expense.
I feel like I wasted money on leg trackers
yeah tbh same
considering how much it cost i dont feel like i got that value back at all for what i use it for
They're ok but you can tell and feel they were never designed for "full body". And just sitting down with them on just makes you look like a waste of money lmao
Just become an erp streamer and you will earn the money back ez
I try to stand with them as much as possible
Yeah same
I always hesitated on FBT, because I knew for myself I would be excited for a week and then it would just be meh
Yeah, but just think of all the leg dabs you can do
I think with the index valve might make something more comfortable and wearable since there isn't many people using the vive trackers for what they were actually designed for
If they spend 2 years developing toe tracking though I swear to god
If Valve created some better shaped (smaller, more slimline), cheaper trackers, I could see them making bank.
Cheaper is a word valve does not know of when it involves vr lmao
Accessory-wise valve may be able to pull it off though
I mean for what the index is and what the controllers are the prices are p reasonable
That's because they're aiming for the sky with the Index. But the trackers are a known thing, they wouldn't need more expensive tech in them.
inb4 individual toe tracking xD
Just a refinement
Apparently the index controllers were gonna be cheaper but their financial advisor or whatever told them to price them high as they're gonna be in high demand for people who have money to just spend lmao
Thats not true at all
Yeah, that sounds like some Oculus fanboy nonsense to be honest
The reason the index controllers didnt come out for sucha long time is because of the production process being extremely expensive
It was on kotaku or something I read iy
just read up on the development processes
R&D was super long
KOTAKU lmaoooo
Vive pucks are so expensive because they have a monopoly on FBT stuff.
Well there you go. The bastion of quality reporting that is Kotaku, haha.
Where did you read yours?
The moment an alternative launches, we finally have a competition in pricing
- Some tech websites a good while ago
- Valve developer newsletter we got at work with the dev kits of the knuckles
- On the valve developer page in steamworks.
@rotund wren The ongoing statements by Gabe and the team about trying to keep the costs as close to actual cost as possible to increase adoption, drive the tech and so forth (they make money from selling the games regardless). Plus you don't need a counterpoint to something which was made-up in the first place by a known garbage source.
Found a £99 source for the v2 trackers which is a bit better.
You can't really believe a company about money though that's like ea saying they didnt try to put loot boxes in as a gambling mechanism
EA are beholden to investors (which basically means staff and customers are always taking a back seat). Valve aren't which basically means they can do whatever they want without having to constantly worry about "year on year revenue increases".
is there really no way I can see my own rank on the website?
or anyone elses really
U can use the api
...why do I need to make use of the API, why can't they add this in their own website?
just log into the game? 🤔
or just add it to the site? which takes like 5 seconds to check
compared to however long it takes to boot up vrchat
in addition to steamvr
10 seconds
@winged thistle What rank do you remember last being?
Not like desktop mode is a thing where you can also check all the things
Also- What would it add for the website to always provide extra information barely anyone would use the website for
well it starts automatically...
idk my vrc boots in 5 secs in desktop mode, doesnt seem complicated
still my point stands
yeah, same here
right click, launch in desktop
@rigid crescent The game starts in VR mode by default and keyboard/mouse don't respond.
Or does the website do the tard thing where it already gets the info just doesnt explain it
wut
@faint skiff right click, launch in desktop
i dont even have to do that
@glossy wharf Yeah, I only learned about that the other day.
That thing doesnt pop up on default
weird, i definitely didnt do anything to make it default
i actually hear about the Shift thing quite a bit but ive never had to test it lol
Yeah usually u have to hold it
I'm guessing Mic is on Oculus and me and Sai are on Vive?
Vive
It happened on my oculus aswell
Hmmmm
its just default behaviour
Well I'm out of ideas
https://gfycat.com/CoarseDisfiguredBilby @rigid crescent now tell me what is faster
and more convenient
by a couple seconds yeah
@glossy wharf you know this stuff, does the webstie already call the rank api or is that something new they have to add?
If you dont have ur login saved ur gonna need longer too
odds are the api call would reveal ranks hidden is why im guessing it doesnt do it
Pretty clear reason why to not do it then
But you could just make the hidden ranks say the ingame equivalent so thats not a good reason to not do it
https://puu.sh/DUjTQ/da9a6fce4f.png LEGEND bois
yea same
yall better be legends or we cant speak
it's a matter of principle really. why not simply add it to the website...
Still extra work for something that would barely get used
Make way for veterans, plebs
Legends only 😩 https://i.imgur.com/q6NNsWf.png
the gods among the pleb masses
Real gods 😩
Um guys... Is it normal that i'm in a White large Room in VRChat... It looks kinda Creepy ngl
Is there an old man sat in the middle surrounded by screens?
did you join a white large room in vrchat?
something tells me the platform wasnt just empty
you've ascended to VRChat heaven
I mean like i just put the Headset away and closed the game so idk
Wait actually there was a white board but i didnt read that. Maybe that wasnt too intelligent
Even if you had accessed The Dire Pug those rooms are dark and not white 
Is the people creating fake "VRChat Heaven" portals new, or is that an old crasher technique?
@final zodiac I would attach a Screenshot if i could but i cant. But its a white platfoarm with a Whiteboard which said something
And wtf is VRChat Heaven
Pretty sure it's not a real place and the portal just crashes you out of the game.
The only way to tell it's not a real portal is where it should say the group type, e.g. public, friends, friends+, etc. It says the abuser's name.
Got a screenshot of one the other night when someone was trying to crash a bunch of people out (well, two people using hacks of varying types)
I didnt go into a Portal
Yeah i opened the Menu, clicked Worlds, then i clicked the Pug, then it loaded, i clicked on Go, I was there for a Second and directly after it was loading again and i was in that large white thing
Maybe that was someone's giant white avatar?
Did the menu still say you were in the Pug?
No. The Menu said that i wasnt even in any world
Did you screenshot it? That would have been useful. You can then click into the world name itself.
I only have a Screenshot of that room.
Wait actually i can read what it says. why am i so stupid
It's the network connection issue room with the giant board saying something went wrong.
Could someone help me wit getting twitch chat in VR?
I refuse on the grounds that I am at work and you are not
@stray herald Use either OVRDrop or OpenVR twitch chat.
@glossy wharf Ive literally tried everything possible and it refuses to work for me
can you be a bit more precise as to what ur issue is?
My issue is it just refuses to work for me
ovrdrop is perfectly functional if set up correctly.
Ive tried using the paid ovrdrop on steam with restream io and it wont work. Ive tried poping out my chat it dont work
Well what have you tried, what doesnt work?
Can i VC with you?
https://store.steampowered.com/app/793190/DailyVR/ this looks interesting tho
not rn no
Hol' up a minute.... Were you trying to get the chat to show up over the stream?
No i just want to see my chat behind my controller like everyone else does
@winged thistle If you want something like that OVR toolkit is better.
Yes to achieve that people mostly use OVRdrop.
Its very straighforward to use, at the top left you select the window, in that case a popout window of your chat, in the top right you load the left controller back side preset
then it should work perfectly fine in VR.
I tried that and i see nothing in game
Then i went through all options
And still saw nothing
I need to VC with someone to get it working
Make sure the chat isnt somewhere in the floor or unclear
Check around in the settings
What's a VC lol
Have you tried both controllers? It sometimes gets the controlllers wrong and then you have to hit the swap button @stray herald
Aight, im not at home for another 3 hours sadly so i cant help you right now.
With vc that is
Anyone else find it infuriating when someone has to be the centre of attention in-world, but completely ignores everyone else in the meantime? Like you're watching a sitcom that can't be interacted with or something...
oh baby drama with friends
I wanted to ask someone about something that happened the night before, but either they were deaf or I was muted. Either way, was a... weird experience.
You know that weird air of self-importance that you often get from streamers, matched with the overly loud voice, insistence on controlling the localised area, etc, that sort of thing. Actually I wonder if they did have everyone other than a few people muted if they were streaming.
Yes I do recognize that
Though the people I talk with who end up being streamers, really just speak and behave like normal people
I guess the demeanour changes if the viewer count is higher?
What's broken with it?
Quest users can't see PC avatars anyway. Can you not see people using Quest specific avatars either?
@faint skiff Don't you love it when a person joins the world seeking attention - shouting really loud - but as soon as nobody provides attention - they're gone 😄
You mean the default ones?
Yes the default avatars
@tawny ore I'm not sure if this person was actually a streamer, but everything about them gave that impression, especially the fake, over enunciated accent. But who knows. I'd been talking to some of the people they were with when silly things kicked off the other night so I was catching up on the shenanigans, but gave up after a while of being seemingly invisible.
if you cant get into a room even if it has low pop does that mean im banned from that place all together?
Lewwy it might be the room is broken
oh okay
Enverex last night I was teaching my friend how to VRC and this girl from night before hopped into the room (where 2 of my stalkers, me and my friend were) - started chatting away trying to gain attention points.... And my stalkers - being stalkers - just carried on climbing onto a screen, my friend kept flying around with a jetpack and I kept messing with the tablet/camera thing...
2 mins later she was gone
Obviously greetings were had and so on...
@flint wyvern That is intentional behaviour
the quest doesnt load avatars made for desktop as shipping platform.
I feel sorry for Quest users 😦
Because the quest is a low end vr headset in that sense
It's all robots, all the time for them - VRC needs to implement a "choose which avatar should display as default" instead of a robot
Arent all avatars that are default for the quest crossplatform
At least scale the robots to the same height as the actual avatars.
That'd make it make a bit more sense
@umbral reef That's what confused me, I thought all the defaults were crossplatform.
Most of the defaults should be corss-platform. 
The defaults are all cross platform, but didnt they say the other users in the hub?
"No the ones made by vrchat i can see
but the other in like the hub i cant see"
They are talking about other users, most likely desktop users.
That have no quest equivalent
Ah, I thought they meant the selectable avatars there, not the people.
Ow then yea lmao
I tbh barely read what the guy wrote as its effort
@flint wyvern Yeah, that'll never be "fixed" as it's by design. People without a Quest specific version of their avatar uploaded will show as robots. The Quest can't show the PC versions as it simply isn't powerful enough for many of them.
Plus the models themselves have to be compiled with a different platform and SDK setup, so even if a model is super optimised and basic, it still has to be rebuilt on the new platform and uploaded by the author before it'll work.
I wonder if VRC could themselves do an audit of the most used avatars, and then have a build-system setup to then, assuming the avatar falls within acceptable limits, build it automatically for Quest.
Without the source files that's not doable
I was wondering about this - Is it not possible in-software to simply downsample the complexity of a model?
Ah. I wasn't sure what could be done with just what's uploaded (as I wasn't sure what it does actually upload in the first place...)
You mean optimize? xD
Bleeding I meant - doing so on runtime (i.e. entering world)
The texture format is different, the quest is limited with what shaders it can use and they're built for its GPU, there's probably some other platform-spefici stuff too.
Ohh
@tawny ore Most would need heavy decimation and texture atlasing, neither of which would work well automatically in many cases.
@tawny ore The problem isnt just how optimized it is
Its literally on another unity build and cant talk to the other one.
All of which needs the original assets before they're built for the target platform.
The information does not match on the windows and andriod build tl;dr
Ooohhh I see
Which in general, vrchat have no access to.
If it's uploaded, it's uploaded to VRC servers, if I'm correct. I'm the big dumb with tech, so I'm prolly wrong, but doesn't VRC have everything they need to build it for Quest
Its why for cross platform avatars you have to upload it twice. Once on the normal and once andriod
And they cant just use all avatars because copyright lmao
Wait, having "future proofing" enabled doesn't upload the whole unit scene to the servers?
It does so far i know
Future proofing is the whole scene with all assets.
For example, if you automatically decimate my avatar down to acceptable Quest limits, you get this... https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/361742235525709825/599947924130234398/unknown.png
It does, many people have problems with it and disable it.
Wait really? Is that why my uploads take so long? I really need to turn that off. My upstream is <4Mb/s
Yup.
God damn
There's... other reasons it's good to turn it off.
I mean I get Fiber optics in September so I'll be able to turn it back on then probably
Avatar yoinking
Usually when having multiple avatars in one scene or lots of assets from what I've experienced, that would be a way to get the avatar file, but automating the whole process to transform to quest would be quite complex, and could very easily result unforseen issues, especially with the shaders.
I'm already on Fibre 😦
Just whip your model into blender and see how well the automatic decimation works, then you know how good said plan is.
The terrifying image I posted is how well that works, lol
Exactly
Pointyboi McAlienface
im kinda tempted to make quest versions of my avatars which are just 60 poly decimations lmao
But still, copyright you know
If you upload something to vrchat services you give them permission to use it and you state that you have all rights necessary
copyright is not an issues at all.
Ran into someone the other day who's Quest version of their avatar was just a 2D sprite image of the actual avatar, but the arms still moved. It was like watching Parappa the Rapper.
LOL
Not that they can use it themselves
They are not safe from the safeharbor laws then
They literally are
By saying the user agrees to having all rights when uploading content they secure themselves
also they are a free service so its a grey area.
I think they'd still have to prove that they've done due diligence, but yeah, it's a bit grey.
Tl;dr rn if they dont know whats on there service they cant be blamed as all is on the users who upload it and they just host it
If they provide content themselves its more grey then something like YT or Imgur
Well, untill article 13 nation attacked
Thing is, nobody makes money through these avatars (unless commissioning gets targetted)
With no income going anywhere; how does it work then?
Ello fuzz o/
@snow wadi I'm guessing you log off before it gets too late your time? I noticed I keep missing you but it's probably because I'm on so late.
Ah, you're 3 hours ahead of me. So it's like 3am your time when I normally get on. That would explain it.
Yep :<
VRC got money from HTC and Facebook. A good majority of people buy headsets just to play this game.
They are private with the details but that’s the assumption
@tawny ore copyright still applies and can be protected when money isnt being earned from it
And you could even argue with the investors VRC has they have earned money and will in the future again
yoo
Vrc is just a giant advertisement for VR
Arent most VR games that?
Uh well in a different sense
I mean it is very clear how beat Saber make money and what it does
Um, is it just me or is like every server I go to
Empty or has like 13 players.
and half of them wont speak English.
Try joining the more popular worlds
You know a good world that a lot of people join
It doesn't show popular, just shows hot and the hottest one has 0 players
and like 300 public
Or ones not named Александр Алексей
Sculder and Mully?
The 300 number is for the full world, not the instance. You want to look at the instance number
How do I appear offline for friends? I saw someone join me but it never showed him online?
Yes, Mully and Ree Kid
Great pug void club never have I ever room of rain
Look at the bottom of the window when you select a world, it should list some instances, some full, some empty. Annoyingly none in the middle.
Im in the world uganda
I think that the world list in general it show 0/0 sometime
It is the same thing
Anyone know why when I walk up to someone they disappear
and when I go back I see them
Personal space is on
Within the settings there is a option related to personal space, forgot the exact name.
Just press V
Ok
Found the perfect thing to get made into an avatar 😛 https://i.redd.it/xmig2ecm1a231.jpg
What do you mean, it's already an avatar.
Are they finally fixing these obnoxious bugs in the invite/social tabs? It's only getting worse and worse.
And fix avatar cloning while they're at it
The setting is bugged so when you turn it off, it might still be turned on somehow
You don't know that until someone clones you though
Yup. That one's a bit weird.
Like how it happened yesterday. I cloned someone's avatar and he was like "Wait how did you do it I turned it off"
Hey, does anyone know what happened to the spiderman meme in VRchat?
D i b s
Who or what is D i b s? Or are you trying to make a joke?
My life is a funny joke
But if it wasn't a joke how would you make people laugh?
Everyone has meaning even if it's just to be a joke 3:.
Deep
I have been enlightened beyond comprehension.
Anyone know any VR Chat Avatar Worlds that provide you with skins that are memes?
@spice plume You've asked that in #vrchat-general-1 already
@spice plume I know a spiderverse world
Spiderman is a meme right now right?
I'll send a link to the world somewhere on the server or DM it if I can't find the channel
There is Spiderman meme ?
@twin temple And you need some of these -> 👓
Can we please report Mason, just cause I tried to help him out, he just started DMing me a bunch of insults and deleted them so I can't screen shot them.
Wow
get used to it
thats the internet for ya
Full chat log, nothing was removed here. I blocked him because I simply didn't care so he would stop DM'ing me
So corn fused
moving away from this landmine
Potato quality screenshot.
you both need to kiss and make up
I just blocked him so I don't have to see him again :) Just had to clarify because apparently he also likes spreading lies
𝔖𝔠𝔬𝔯𝔭𝔦𝔬𝔫𝔥𝔞𝔯𝔱
I'm not, lol
𝔖𝔠𝔬𝔯𝔭𝔦𝔬𝔫𝔥𝔞𝔯𝔱 u take back "my love"
in fact it would amusing to see two weridos duking it out
𝔖𝔠𝔬𝔯𝔭𝔦𝔬𝔫𝔥𝔞𝔯𝔱 e.e
your cropping skills need work however
How so?
it looks like it was done with 144p res
@covert blade can i kick 𝔖𝔠𝔬𝔯𝔭𝔦𝔬𝔫𝔥𝔞𝔯𝔱's ass? e.e
It's done using ShareX and auto uploaded to imgur. The quality when I open the image is literally the same as it is on my desktop
Sorry for being a 1080p peasant I guess
@past cosmos
The image is sharp from what I can see. If you open imgur on some devices, it is low res though.
But besides that, let's move on. Let's keep this chat vrchat related. Thanks
So... some weather we're having, right?
In VRchat?
muggy over here
-sigh-
Speaking of weather maybe I'll go pay the "Purity" map a visit again
@past cosmos
Just a rainy forest with a hill to climb and nice ambience
my area is gonna be prone to blackouts because of the crap weather
@covert blade If you're in-game, can you check out my map and make sure the framerate is OK?
is he kidding with me? e.e
I screwed something up last time and was getting 14 fps
Is he still talking to me?
@faint skiff Uhm, sure just DM me the details I'll be on some time later
I think I've fixed it now but need someone to double check that I'm not just brute-forcing performance now
@covert blade Just search "greenhaven" and that should pop it up.
Should I test it in VR or desktop?
Well okay then imma test it real quick
Thanks
@faint skiff The world doesn't show up in the search list
I tried "greenhave" and just "green" too
Weird. It's this one - https://vrchat.com/home/world/wrld_702c00a8-b5a2-4833-affd-ae2613bd4b8f
I guess I'll just join using the website then
It should show up. I'll have to try searching for it myself later then, just to check.
Hmm ok. Something weird must be going on with the lights still.
Oh, before you go, do the trees look out of focus for you? Like your eyes won't focus properly on them?
I didn't notice that being the case
Hmm ok, thanks for that.
But at least it's not the 14 FPS from before
Maybe community labs worlds don't show up in search?
I thought they did. It's had 400 visits so far and only about 5 are from me.
Damn man, that screen shot blew up though, I left for a bit, and all I see is people talking about that screen shot, I mean it is really bad, and it is obvious he is trolling Discord doesn't show deleted messages and he obvious cropped that out extremely hard.
I am not kissing or making up with anyone, I just want to say. Can we all please calm down, gezz. Just think about happy thoughts everyone, or your happy place I guess makes sense. If you have some place you like to go or some place you like to be think about that. VRchat is just a game man, raging because of a map you don't listen isn't very professional. Just think about all the happy things out there guys.
I really dont know what this is about, but better discord can keep messages that get deleted.
Ya, but not in a screen shot.
so
Either way, we all should just forget about it and move on as I said.
why are we still on this topic
Bananas
Ya, let's talk about Bananas
Bananas are actually a supreme snack prove me wrong
Not if you pronounce it as "ba-nuhh-nuhzz"
Did you know Bananas are an excellent source of potassium?\
Damn Brits
Excuse me bleeding I am Australian and I am offended
🍿
Give us a narna mate
Come to Indonesia we have purple bananas
What the shit
@vocal shard I heard Bananas make a very great source of mouth pleasure. It's extremely good to taste and enjoy.
It's amazing in shakes and smoothies.
Banana, mouth pleasure.. heh
What's funny about it man, It's a pleasure to taste something good right? It's like, It's a pleasant taste, a pleasurable experience. I don't understand why the word pleasure is funny 3:.
When you upload a screenshot in original quality and people complain about the quality
Mason what do you like about bananas?
I don't really eat bananas :p
Heathen!
But yeah. Also: Stop blaming me for your device not showing the full resolution of imgur uploaded screenshot :P
Can't upload stuff here directly, otherwise I would
has the wmr kit been out for years and yet still has basic problems like drifting day one
*hasnt
What do you mean?
both of my joysticks have drifting
Yes, Indonesia
and you cant recalibrate or configure them back to zero in steamvr
That's not normal
i looked everywhere and I even turned on the steamvr beta for the test controller option
hefty, what method of bluetooth are you using to connect?
usb dongle or motherboard/pci?
why would bluetooth be the big issue here?
as far as im concerned motherboard? since it has built in bluetooth
it's a major factor when it comes to WMR
ok
Bluetooth is very important with wmr controllers
It's recommended to use a USB dongle
i would suggest getting a USB dongle
pretty much yeah
and thats why everything works besides the joysticks drifting?
@bleeding thats is country where i live in, but i dont know purple banana's
Motherboard Bluetooth can have issues since it can have interface from the case, and other computer components
you sure its that and not a mechanical issue with the sticks
i was running bluetooth on a PCI card which boded for a while until said drifting issues started kicking in
i upgraded to a bluetooth 4 dongle
well it would be awesome if I could tell if it was bluetooth or not
unfortunately there is no real troubleshooting
How to I reset sound again? Both shifts and what?
Someone told me in game and already forgot
@vocal shard I'd be amazed if the motherboard bluetooth didn't use an external antenna, otherwise it just wouldn't work
I use onboard Intel bluetooth mPCI cards on all my machines and it's infinitely better and more reliable than any USB bluetooth adaptor you could buy.
I know the feeling man, 3: I got a PC that cost me 3k dollars, and I can't even use the Vive VRheadset I got 3:.
Screen shots in VR are absolute amazing.
You always get high quality on those.
True. But it still stands from experience that a dongle is much more reliable when it comes to wmr. This is widely known in the WMR community. Also, using it in USB 2.0, as 3.0 causes some interface as well.
It could be something unique to wmr, as their controllers are rather picky. Even the types of batteries you use can change how the controllers track and how they act
For some reason my Vrheadset stopped working
That sounds terrible. Glad I've avoided WMR.
mine was a cheap edup pci card that i impulse bought
When it's set up properly and working well, I like it. Use it more than my Rift
same (don't own a rift or vive though however)
@faint skiff What is WMR some kind of advanced world war tech that is keeping all the countries from creating bombs and blowing each other up?
Windows Mixed Reality. A type of VR headset
What?
They said that windows mixed reality is going to change the world in 48 years.
is there a way to push the software IPD beyond its limits btw? getting tired of blurry bs
I think I heard that like 20-40 years ago I don't remember.
no unfortunately, that's one of the downsides of WMR
Bruh what am I supposed to do
They said it was some top secret government technology the world wasn't suppose to learn about until recently, and they were going to mass produce it in order to keep us all entertained.
mine has a sweet spot i have to move my eyes towards, but the latest update made shit more clear than it's ever been before
i'm using the HP hmd (not the reverb)
i am regretting my purchase for its various issues
That's a very specific amount of time
@faint skiff I mean, to be honest they said like 48 years, 3 months, 1 day, 4 hours, 24 minutes, and 59 seconds.
it sounds like the person telling us this information is on crack
hefty where did you order yours from? you should be able to return it
I haz food \o/
i suppose I got what I got for that cheap $300 price
If you're well outside the IPD range, there's not much you can do. It should be able to support 59-67
all of them look blurry
@snow wadi is it a banana?!
Chinese food o.o;
and I dont have a ruler. with MM
Oh YUM
afaic i have 56 ipd ish?
i heard if you change the registry value manually you can get that working
on a steam forum
damn, wish i had some chinese food right about now
and my vrchat world apparently didn't update 
I don't know if any headset support 56 ipd
how come theres such a piss poor support why dont they have a mechanical lens adjuster
56... I don't know is any VR goes that low
Even the rift CV1 range was 58 lowest
With mechanical ipd
so do I just send it back and stick with playing 2d games then
Unfortunately that is probably the case or you have to live with it
is there like some physical impossibility to provide support for this kind of completely basic thing
No but it is not a cost effective solution
Look like pimax go to 55 actually I just looked
Makes sense. Pimax lenses are massive
But then you're over $1000 for a VR system again, and need a beast computer to run it
I've tried setting the IPD on my headset from 60 to 70 and genuinely cannot see any difference. Am I blind?
Nah, you just have the best vision in the world and are capable of seeing anything clearly.
Probably right in the middle. Like 65, so always in range. I'm closer to 60, so if it's too large it gets blurry
I literally see and feel no change at all. I know the knobs working because I can feel it moving against my eyebrows and nose as I change it. It's annoying because I have no idea what it should be.
IIRC when I measured it ages ago my IPD was around 63 but that doesn't feel any different than 70+
Is anyone having connection problesm?
i am
huh, keeps telling me that im timed out
it just got fixed tho
okay, its fine for me again
reeeeeeee
Rip vrc servers
Lmao
rip
Quick @ everyone 
for reals
Well, this was a bad time to get 2.5 hours into the climbing carnival map...
i was about to hop on :(
Hmm, I'm just getting a black screen after the world loaded.
why was i timed out :((
Carnival Map was one of my worst ideas this week.
is sometinhg weird with vrchat server
reeeeeee
ok jake paul
good that wasnt only me having this issue
:))
deleted user about to actually be deleted user.
Okay
tupper where's our @ everyone announcment saying vrchat is having issues D:
@vocal shard Your message could not be delivered because you are faking those chat messages
2019.07.18 20:11:45 Log - [87, 403, Get, -1] Abandoning request, because: "Invalid Admin Credentials" Should I worry about this?
caffeine
Yo
do you know how to make a weapon trigger? ( Aka on a position on a htc vive controller a weapon pops up? )
You need to get the weapon yourself somehow. To make it be held as a weapon, you set the hold orientation to "gun" in the pickup component I believe
Servers broke
reeee
@rough flax tupper here, we're aware of issues and are investigating. :^)
Servers broke again? At such an inconvenient time aswell.
Oh no midday on a Thursday.....
dem servers decide to yeet
You know, it'd be real great if the friends list was actually working too. Instead of just having one friend online, have all of them online and equally have that check not be stuck per instance too.
waiting for vrc bot online count to update
seems you can log in fine now
Saw you and me are getting the same thing
welp there it goes again for me lol
I know I have more than one friend online... Game, stop lying to me... Don't overlook this..
Someone tripped over the power cord i bet
Lol
VRC is highly unstable at the moment XD
Got booted from multiple rooms; some quest users reported seeing PC-only models for a moment too
lmao
Weard the Devs did not give info why it happen -_-
@tacit plank that message is normal and fine
people having trouble yet the online count keeps going up
The bot lies.
so it would seem
So how's everyone today? I shall repurpose this VRChat-general into a random chat because VRChat is all about discussing VRChats refusal to keep me online 😄
I dunno if I'm just late or blind but the bot doesn't have a counter anymore
Oh now it does
it keeps going up
uwAH
Quest users seeing PC only avatars is interesting and I’m not sure if I believe it
Well a quest user told me that; so I'm partially happy to hear it
It’s impossible and it was probably just a cross play avatar
it was probably a crossplay avatar
My avatar is 32000 tris on PC and 7500 tris on Quest, few seem to realize you can do that
Apparently, Quest users can see their own avatars regardless of whether it is crossplay or not
But all the other avatars are hidden for them (even if they have an excellent performance rating)
If it’s quest only or cross play yes they can see it
No, it was not a quest avatar
If it’s PC only of course they can’t see it
They can see their own avatar regardless
Its not on the right unity build even then so i highly doubt it
Would you probably are confused about is a quest user can their own quest avatar, even if it far exceeds their own polygon limit of 10 K. But no one else will be able to see them
However it must still have been uploaded as a quest avatar
I guess some quest users may not care about other quest users seeing them and just upload their high poly avatar on both pc and quest builds :p
All of PC users see them, and they see themselves. Good enough for them I guess
My avatar is ~64000 tris on PC and 9998 on Quest. Talk about cutting it close 😛
wich avatar is better to do, the one with a bunch of polygons or the ones with the lowest?
As low as you can get it while still looking good.
tell me this, for the avatar we are making, we can't use parts from other creator, right?
i mean like, body or head
You can (assuming the other creator doesn't mind)
ok alright, thanks
Is VRC experiencing issues right now? All of us in this lobby are seeing each other teleport around and sometimes getting sent back to the home world
There's also issues with going to other worlds that it'll just kick you out of the game right now, happened to a bunch of us for the last 30 mins
Server problems?
Server is experiencing issues right now
Seems like it
Personally I consider 7500 tris to be the max for quest as anything above that is blocked by default quest settings
It's 10k rather than 7500 afaik judging from what the SDK said. (unless Poor isn't the default, which I thought it was)
7501 to 10000 are poor and blocked by default but can be shown
10001 and above can never be shown
Ah, that must be what I was thinking of
7500 is the max for medium
gotta get that excellent
@languid beacon very poor avatars can be shown on quest by selecting show avatar for the user
That's a per-user thing though rather than a global setting, so probably not the best to aim for
Right. But it is theoretically possible
People say that however I have been getting conflicting reports on that some quest users saying it doesn’t work. I guess I’ll know for sure once I have my own.
My avatar went from Good to Poor just by adding a few dynamic bones for the hair >_>
When there is a Dynamic Bone limiter in place, why am I being ranked so harshly for having some for my hair? I don't even have colliders
A single dynamic bone script will make every transform below it into a dynamic bone. A single script can be very laggy if it has a ton of children. It may have more than you think
I personally think the medium limits for dynamic bone scripts are plenty
@languid beacon https://i.imgur.com/vmo6xr2.jpg
This is the user in question. It looks a lot like a non quest avatar based on that picture. But I know that it is a quest user
i mean there's a chance it has a quest variant
Then I'm just gonna go into that world where that's from and see if any of these are quest ready
Maybe they are I dunno
Or VRchat is just lying again
Okay then VRchat
Yeah but the first pic made it look like it wasn't
https://i.imgur.com/vmo6xr2.jpg this one specifically
🤷
¯_(ツ)_/¯
If I were to use FBT with an avatar where the floor level isn't where the feet are, how would that look?
bad
Huh. Odd thing is I've seen people use the avatar I currently have where the floor level is above the ingame floor and it seemed to have worked fine
i mean theyll float if their feet arent on the ground
and without playspace mover youll just stay floating
I guess that explains why pretty much every FBT user I have seen so far had the playspace mover
Except they usually used it to float on purpose
Floating people really, really bothers me. It sounds stupid in worlds full of random creatures, but it's the one thing that immediately breaks all immersion and takes me back to "I'm stood in a room wearing a VR headset".
i also says "this is an announcement fghuhgdcvebdhflijhrtyjpoiuhberyhpfoidjhwethmnphgokjrtgplkrfoktgikjtfgok " then doesnt load
this typically hints to some kind of connectivity issue
hecc
Servers seem to be drunk at the moment
6k people are playing fine atm. You sure it isn't your connection getting iffy?
Nah the 6K are wrong 👀
Everyone on the server were frozen in place and other's on that server were commenting on it
I don't believe in such a coincidence that two completely random people manage to both get the same issue at the same time
And I recall that a few hours ago people were complaining quite a lot about the servers here
I bet the bot just counts the amount of people currently playing. Of course once you get randomly booted off the server you are being reconnected pretty quickly
bot just displays how many users are active in the api
so it is accurate
its delayed on the count but it is accurate :p
Accurate in the sense that they are active, inaccurate in representing how many of these users are on instances that have connectivity problems
can someone buy me a cr heatset
Again, a few hours ago the channels were full of people complaining with the bot still showing like 5,8k users active
vr
No, why would anyone?
when you say a bunch do you mean a couple?
because there nice? someone bought me a 35$ game before
because i asked
There were like at least 5+ different people coming here complaining about it all at the same time
5 / 6000 is a bunch
Yeah, I was getting a black screen earlier as well
c:
So there is /was an issue
Yeah because all 6k users are on this Discord amirite?
vr is straight up dodo in decktop mode
Then don't play? Or get VR?
If you have access to a quest and a pc you can log in with any avatar you want on the wrong system. You won’t see it on yourself
@covert blade https://imgur.com/a/zRfHFy3
pretty sure a majority of those are people playing right now c:
Joined server != actually active there
You keep believing in such coincidences
That's one thing that makes discord so annoying
Also that’s @languid smelt you can just ask them yourself
@languid beacon I know that. I've talked to her personally while in a world. That's why I was curious
yesssss???
Nothin'
if you are having issues attempt to sign in to the website, have issues there? tweet at vrc c:
@covert blade I think it shows like that if you're in a PC only world
i am confusion
(even if the avatar should be Quest compatible)
or they have t oclick on me and click show avatar
The icons are confusing. On avatar pictures on menus, they show what services can see that avatar. On nametags, they instead show which version of vrchat they are currently using .
And when you click on their profile and look at that, it just showed PC only for me
Even though all avatars from that world are quest compatible
If a quest user can see it than it has a quest build and the menu is wrong
Or they fixed the bug and it now shows that they are currently using pc
At this point I'm wondering what part of the menu actually isn't broken in some way
answer to that is the buttons they have disabled xd
I would recommend not depending on menu icons. The one on nametags is dependable and will tell you if they are using quest or not
Yes I've noticed that also when playing with Cozy
the ui definitely needs work thats for sure
I already know that. What I was confused about is that I thought those avatars were PC only
one day we'll get that early 2019 UI update lol
If a Pc user wears a crossplay avatar their name tag will incorrectly say it PC only.
HOWEVER...
A quest user can log in on pc, wear a Pc only avatar; switch to quest and still be wearing it; and pc users will see it fine although quest users won’t see it themselves. If they do, it’s crossplay
Huh
?
I give up trying to explain /shrug
read the documentation, youll be fine
I don't even know why this is still something you felt explaining. I already checked the world again and verified that the entire world had quest compatible avatars = the social tab was lying (as usual)
I've mentioned that.
I apologise to anyone who had to suffer my obnoxious avatar effects ealier lmao
Damn its just so god damn hard to find/make friends, i got a rift s, playing for 3/4 weeks, i am pretty social,.
But everyone is behind privates, friend/friends+, public is full with small group of friends, trolls, memes.
🤔 you can join friends+though
everything is user uploaded, so not really. what are your specs if youre crashing on desktop?...
Its an old dell from a couple years ago
Anyone here up to play some vrc?
It usaully works well with most games
but uhhh for somereason its having a hard time with vrchat
a Dell Precision M 6700
the vr version works better for some reason
Guys, are there still connection issues in VRC? People are timing out in my lobby
There were issues earlier today as well where people would get kicked off the game randomly or sent back to their home world
Does anybody want to try a horror map later with me? I’ve gotten pasta the first little bit but after that I have no idea what’s to come lol
my vrchat neckroped
What you mean @green orchid
it killed itself
What avatar are you using?
I sent you it
ImAGamer
Join up on me🙂
Im not in vr right now just doin some shzi quick with some custom avatars
I’ll be in the pug then, see you soon
Okie see ya soon
@vocal shard it’s gonna take a while to load btw
aight
Lmk when you get in
I’ll be there in like 30 seconds
kk
My game just died I’m joining back in
Don’t go further I’ll be there in a sec
I’m back
@vocal shard if you don’t want to do it it’s fine, I don’t mind, I know this isn’t for everyone
anyone wanna play?
@eternal locust I’m down, what you wanna do?
Sure thing
ok ill dm ok?
<@&397642795457970181> doot doot fake scare mongering
do more research before you spread chain letters :3
oh spooky basement
i actually forgot that was there, i didnt think it was still on the map
I’m not gonna show it here though
its from an old ARG event
I could dm it
or maybe it was there before that? I dunno.
Is it over now?
Not sure, the maps to do the stuff on mgiht still be available
There’s a website link that takes you to a google form, I filled it out a minute ago and now I’m gonna wait for a response
So am I gonna be proven its false? or what lol
i was sent this by 5 people
so does that prove it's real?
I’ll dm you guys the final part of you want
stuff like that is, generally, fake unless it's proven not
like more often than not it's a hoax
Can’t post it here
i guess
im just spreading the word so if it is true then everyone was warned ahead of time
I want to figure out the rest of it
all that does is cause fear mongering and spreads lies so
If it is true
Unless it can be proven that it is a real threat, it will just be viewed as a hoax.
probably better not to ever spread any image like that because they're, like i siad, almost always fake
and any time they aren't fake, there's proof. if you havent seen actual proof then its a lie
kinda circular there lol
Did you get my picture?
yes i did ive already seen it, i did the map when it was added lol
Ok nvm
Morning
does anyone have someting said to u It would seem like you've been banned.?
does it ban you ingame? someone mentioned that earlier
Hi.
Try .com
yeah its the website
i just messaged a mod about it
idk if i can post gyazo links but
oh its not imbedded nvrmind
I made Trusted finally. 
You've ascended. Now you just need to hit LEGEND
One day
👀

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