#vrchat-general-2
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@shrewd quarry wr use 2017.4.15f
That wasnt my question.
You dont need the 5.6.3 one
Thanks.
is in world by myself
afk for about 2 minutes
1 player joins
return
we talk for a bit
and suddenly, moderation kick: more than half of the instance votekicked you from the instance
Why would u need 2 unities lol i
whats vrchats policy on people threatning to kick people of via ip ....
there are a couple in the open mic night doing so
didn't know it was possible to grab someone's ip and terminate their connection to the vrchat instance through vrchat itself, that's interesting
Ok?
lol


it is just me or discord crashes on browsers?
It happens a lot
@lethal summit a lot of people have been reporting discord crashing on browser, from what I’ve seen it’s all of them but it happens more on Firefox
well duh firefox and chrome only browsers that exist for now
should i download vrchat through oculus or steam or does it not matter?
but still...crashing on a browser? wierd and it should not happen..
@heavy ledge oculus for rift only. Steam for everything including rift
discord isnt fully supported on a standard browser to begin with, but i think crashing the browser is something that the browsers changed that caused the crash or it was discord
🤔
well the browser it self doesnt crash...i only get a message from discord with a crashing message in it.
and i get that a lot lately.
FFS...it's been over a week and the menu bug still isn't fixed?
Which bug
If its only you experiencing the bug, what makes you think it can be fixed on their end?
I heard other people experienced it
Then again, I could be wrong
Either way, ti just started suddenly and now I can't do s**** other than walk around my home world
No changing world, no avatars, no social, no settings...nothing.
Reinstall game and/or reinstall mouse drivers (if any)
you can use the portals to drop into some worlds at least (ofc no actual solution)
You cant drop portals if you cant use the menu
Youd have to have a friend guide you around
there is portals in the default home world, if you changed that then eh
and launch links should also work
while beeing a lot more efford to use, you can join on friends that way (Or worlds you want to go to)
...
This is btw still not rchannel for random chats 
This discord is the official Discord for the game VRChat and thus most of the channels here are to be kept in relation to it
I can't play the game and this is the only server I can talk in ;-;
@vocal shard you may have ended up in a tiny or invisible/broken avatar (if you are in VR you see everything infinitely far away). This actually breaks raycasting so you can't click anything.
To fix, try pressing ctrl-backslash \ to switch to a default robot avatar . That one is just temporary for that play session so you should switch into a default avatar afterwards.
hiya
Verified the files... nothing changed on my PC. No Win update, no new drivers. Just started all of a sudden. A hack?
oh... the UI froze?
that happened to me before, it ended up being fixed by closing everything out and restarting it... i guess it's just something that happens at times
@umbral oracle - that actualyl fixed it
But I'm only using my own avatar, so how could my own avatar ge broken like that?
Usually caused by a rigging / reimport problem in my experience
Did you import it? Might be worth asking in #avatars-2-general but I would suggest going to the model and rig tab and set it to None and then set back to Humanoid.
Caution: you will lose all your dynamic bones, particle systems etc. if you want to keep those, duplicate your avatar, drag the body mesh out or something and break the prefab. Then do your rerigging and then use Pumkin's Tools to transfer stuff back to your rigged avatar
@vocal shard
Would anyone be able to help me find a model?
I know that's a little vague, but if anyone's interested, I'll go into more detail.
Good day to all, how are you doing?
@umbral oracle - simple avatars, nothing fancy, have been working flawlessly forever and I ddint' alter anything on them
Which is weird
Awwee. The first thing my friend wanted when they got VR was a hug
🌺
lol thats nice
what were they saying ??
i bought vr only to pat people on the head in vrc
literally the reason for me spending $500 on a headset
The power of AWOOO compels you
who didnt spend 500 for headpats tbh
what?
Huh, no pictures are allowed here
Was gonna show Vrchat was being advertised
I'll post it in #vrchat-pictures
its good
when will there be a way to have the game not eat up my ssd drive im getting tired of clearing out the cache when ever it gets full and have to reload everything back i don't have very good download speed and thats something i cant fix cause of personal reasons im just wanting to know will there be a resolve for this little issue i'm having
@heavy ledge cache will always need to be cleared whether its automatic or manual.
@heavy ledge you can create a symlink to a different drive if you like
I already did that but that caused issues for me when loading into worlds
idk why but it did
From Open Beta Update:
”Fixed an issue where a user using Desktop mode, launching VRChat from a desktop shortcut, and using a short avatar/setting user height too low would prevent use of the the menu/UI” 
just tried some fucking shit horror maze
flooding doesn't even fucking work
forces you to restart on select dead ends
has jumpscares, some of which (seemingly at fucking random) force you to respawn if you run within five miles of them
does anyone have a fucking gun?
Horror mazes are a joke in Vrchat
Unless you can come up with a creative way to scare someone, they are merely a theme park ride
I believe it is possible to use the world to disorientate and confuse players with unity, I remember someone saying they wanted to split the party without the party knowing they've been split
I've played that one map where you came in contact with a wendigo with some friends and that scared the shit out of me.
I forgot the map tname though.
there was a map my friends and I played, where you had the alien from the alien movie chasing you
Though any horror game from desktop experience is little to me, but it's a whole different story when you are in VR.
it wasnt exactly what I'd call scary, and that was only exaggerated by multiple of the Alien's model doing some dance number at the end
Xenomorph?
thats the one
I haven't played that map yet, but I've seen it.
its
okay I guess
its constantly pitch-black, and you get very little options in the way of creating light. I think the creator was going for a dark and scary theme, but it's more of an annoyance than anything
Atmosphere is the most important thing in a horror map
yeah, I wouldn't say feeling like you're blind creates much of an atmosphere tbh
I find anything too dark annoying. I get a claustrophobic feel from it.
whats that new map where you go down hallways and everntually it has a blood pool at the bottom
that map is good until you enter the house, the notes make you blind..
So I was blind, and I was being lead by a blind blind guide...
also, just out of curiosity, any of you guys good at dealing with models?
No, unfortunetly
tbh i wish vrchat had more of a horror theme or a vr experience like theme park rides or any other kind of immersive feel to it, but all I see are avatar worlds being uploaded. Not that I have anything against avatar worlds
there are theme park worlds, theres funland
Yeah it would be awesome to have more interactive experiences. I guess people just need more time with unity to figure it out
I'm personally just fed up with going to worlds and being earraped by people with stupid models.
I think I've been to fun land before. I recently visited it not to long ago right after I got VR a few days ago.
I somehow have a high tolerance towards annoying avatars.
The recent thing that annoys me the most
is probably the avatars that have audio when they spawn. Especially ones that are like "XYZ HAS ENTERED THE LOBBY" and then it plays some dumb song at like 1000db and deafens you from the other end of the map
A friend of mine that I know irl joined me last night and found a avatar that does that.
I'm like why..
like, I can deal with people near me suddenly making noise, I can mute them or whatever, but people that have just spawned, I can't do anything about them without finding their name
so I'm deafened until either the dumb audio stops, or I manage to block/mute them
And this is why turning avatar sounds off for everyone is a great idea
but some people have cool avatars with cool sounds
That's what a beta male would do
^^
I want to be deaf within the next year
show avatar on them specifically then
And people who exploit the shit out of shaders to blind, give seizures, or annoy the hell out of ya
yeah, but how am I meant to know if they have cool sounds if I have them muted? I'm not going to specifically ask everyone
I guess going deaf is just a small price to pay for salvation
9 times out of 10 sounds on avatars are too loud or intentionally trolling so you're not missing much
Yikes I've seen some people give seizures to people before, but that was through a video I wateched.
I know one dude who did it
I can deal with shaders tbh
And I really wanted to kill him after it, because it was horrendous
He made friends with somone for weeks before enacting it
it really do be like that sometimes
Just don't have shaders enabled if you have epilepsy it's not that crazy of an idea
I just have most settings turned off so I can load peoples avatars faster. Though idk if that helps.
Not at all
oof
The avatar is a single package of data, turning things off just stops components from running.
I really need better internet then.
In some cases you may get a small performance boost if the disabled components are using a lot of resources (like a very heavy complex shader)
I downloaded it to my hdd, but the cache files are going to my ssd cause I have steam on my ssd.
You're probably limited by internet speed then
yo does anyone have a xxxtentacion/lil peep avatar??
most likely
unfortunately not, try asking in #avatars-2-general
and i dont have one of thoses @tacit hull
Just the one off ***mods
but yeah @heavy ledge if you've got VRC itself on your HDD and the cache on your ssd, it would still be pretty slow, since you're forcing your fast ssd to have to communicate with your hdd
if you had everything on the ssd you might notice improvement
obviously internet speed is still a factor
but it might make a difference
Tupper suggested me using a simlink or a symbolic link for the cache problem
a simlink might work if you manage to set it up
I just did
oh
well have a go with that then, see how that works out for you
but worst case scenario, just reinstall on your ssd, I dont think the game itself is too big anyways
1.2 gigs
Does youtube keep on signout out for anyone?
my YT is still signed in
A check my cache and it was 12gb in vrchat dan
Though the problem is that I have a 128gb ssd with windows and I don't have much space left. Though I have a 2tb hdd
That's their fault
Some old avatar are not affect by the protection
Block shader and you can still see them
@heavy ledge I totally understand your issue then. I think the Simlink is your best bet
yea
@candid fiber I'm 90% sure that's wrong
Honestly I wouldn't mind resetting my cache if I had better internet speed.
if you block shaders, you block shaders. all avatars get affected
lol
aaaaaah fix the video player !
Anyone know what the major cause of audio cutout in high pop maps? Lag in general even though i have a HEDT system.. sucks because I cant even chill with close friends etc
I have 16 cores 32 threads .. vrchat set on real time priority in the processes
so frustrating
prolly the IK network system prolly.. need to wait till they either fix that problem out maybe.
i have 10 cores, 20 threads on a I9 Core system so i can understand how that feels mainly
Yeah, its weird because many seem unaffected..
like the people with the lesser systems get better performace
b4 the 2 updates just recently my rift mic was fine.. but after the update it just echoes... for some reason.. i dunno why.. i tried everything from tryin to set the rift as default (like i always have been doing, to like reinstalling the rift, re plugging the rift in another port)
and sometimes it works n sometimes it doesnt
Yeah, ive done the same
it seems to be local as well like some ppl may be able to hear me, and some just put up with the echo as well
yeah they claim to hear me as well but i cant hear them.. wish i could figure it out.. thanks for the feedback though @undone dome
hehe appreciate it
it makes me sad, when I wanna talk to my friends, but all that comes out is the echo part.
I guess i appear completely clear to them but for me theyre all skipping frames and no audio can be heard on my end
my friend was streaming, so i got to hear how it sounded.. I was like... this culd irritate people if i keep on talking... so i try not to talk as much.
ahhhhhh
ugh lol
yeah, i just clipped it off my friends stream.. to show ppl on that.. lol. (b4 the stream video gets auto deleted)
If you need a test case @undone dome @twin iron then Ubuntu =>19.04 with Proton might be an interesting test point.
Below has older Mesa drivers (18.2 series) which fail to render anything beyond the first skinned mesh.
Be warned too that video players hang VRC upon trying to load a video.
is that the world?
yo how do i change the movement controls?
love the reasons on some of these tos violattions 😂
or avatars with 250 dyn bones
seems stable on my end
lucky.. i keep timing out in my own instances, might just go back to FF14
@plush osprey Same
Finally i cam cancel emotes
Had enough of people who wore cloneable avatars that actually had infinite emotes
i need help with something related to vrchat, how do i change my avatar without acessing the menu
anyone?
how do you mean
changing avatar if you cant acess menu
I dont think you can
so im stuck like this? great game
why dont you have access to any menus?
i have acess but vrchat fucks up their game as usual where you cant click menu untill your avatar is loaded, but the avatar i have is the one you get from vrchat when you get too laggy which is their version of the blocked avatar
which dosent really load so you cant acess menu since no avatar have loaded
hm, I've not had that problem myself. I can only recommend restarting, sorry I can't be of more help :/
it been having this isue for 2 days where my avatar need to be loaded in before im able to click menus, but right now no avatar can be loaded since the avatar vrchat uses dosent really load
Do the CTRL / trick
?
CTRL / should make you fall back to the default avatar
the default avatar is the one thats the issue, since it dosent load so im stuck unable to click anything
i need to change to an avatar any avatar other than the default
i can schreenshare if you want
can u possibly send me some footage
how do i screenshot you of me being unable to click something
you either see it live or its not gonna explain anything
streamable? could make a quick clip wih obs or something 🤷
i'll look into it when i wake if u manage to shoot me something
@pastel dirge If you need to get out of one of an avatar with problems you can press ctrl+` to locally switch to... something, it's a default thing of some sort. You should be able to interact with the menu then.

What channel do i go to for help with the sdk
I need more yandere avatars tbh
I have like 7 toga avatars lmao. Im gonna learn how to make my own eventually my very own custom toga
Shhhhh
hey guys when i open voicemod my mic in-game stops working any idea why?
nvm i fixed it
pepega
Lmao now they broke voices too
This social VR game is starting to lose both its social and its VR
Yoyoyo
What up?
@pastel dirge use avatar pedestrals or quick menu and clone an avatar
@pastel dirge had the same problem with the iron giant everytime i used it
whats a avatar pedestal
@pastel dirge If you need to get out of one of an avatar with problems you can press ctrl+` to locally switch to... something, it's a default thing of some sort. You should be able to interact with the menu then. ( when you type that do you mean i press the ctrl button then + button ?
im confused what buttons im supposed to press
@pastel dirge ctrl plus another button while ctrl is held
how have you never seen this





@mighty cradle cntl and \


Mew
hello.
Hi
yo can anybody recommend me any neon-like avatar?
hello
i know people might have been dealing with this but, there has been some strange in game lag where everyone would just stop moving and talking...guess its some form of desync issue or something
aaand the fact that theres that whole loading thing too
and the occasional freezing and junk...sometimes would just not unfreeze
Epic from epic games
Eef
I've seen the freezing too in worlds that have gone past the softcap in capacity. I don't remember seeing it until just recently
😽💕
Any one know if a GTX 1050 (non Ti) can handle VR pretty well? Nothing intensive just vrchat and games with less visuals or effects.
@tender wren well you would probably go for at least a 1070
@tender wren I run a 1060 atm and I know i will be struggling with VR
Figured, I have a 1070 I just wanted to ask for a friend who had a 1050 laptop
Welp Thanks I'll let em know
if you don't have a VR headset, 1050 can handle vrchat
Gotcha, was looking for the vr version but I figured 2Gb Vram isn't enough
I would definitely try to get something higher than 970 or 1060 for vrchat in vr and modern games
I did see that the 1050 Ti handles alright, not the best but well enough
Alrighty then, they'll have to man up and pay up for a new upgrade if they want vr. It is what it is oh well ¯_(ツ)_/¯
Thanks for the quick support
true lol my goal is first to get my VR gear then do some testing before i upgrade to a 20 series graphics card
You mean the Super 20 series? :p
worth it, low framerates make you dizzy in vr, it's a much more noticeable thing than on a 2d desktop screen
@tender wren Well I plan to go for probably a RTX 2060 after i get my index
Too op, and nvidia will probably release another upgraded version soom after so yeah that 2060 would be a safe choice. It handles close to a 1070
yeah and the price is more manageable
yup yup, sounds like a plan
Well i have 1100 euros dedicated to paying for the Valve Index kit, so i cant use too much on a new graphics card lol
Exactly, besides then i have the index headset, the new controller types and new base stations
worth it as price is not much higher than the Vive pro sets
@tender wren You're going to have to downsample a little for that, reconstruction will help you out as well so it's doable
That would be cool. My oculus rift which I think is the cv1 looks terrible in quality. Hard to focus on detail but it's something at least. Does get me dizzy tho
@quick kayak Thanks, that could work. But if my friend is paying $250ish for a used vr kit I think they'll rsther use that for a upgrade instead if they can't experience it very well
You mentioned owning a CV1, Oculus ASW 2.0 is great for low end devices, but like I said, you might have to downsample alittle bit.
VR can wait, I'd use that cash for a nice, used 1060 6gb.
Dunno if I have that software, there's one I have that is for increasing the quality for oculus rift but it doesn't do much imo
@quick kayak so you believe my 1060 6gb can run VR 🤔
A 1060 is a slightly better 970 and I've known 970 users that play vrc.
Mine is a MSI GTX 1060 6gb
@quick kayak you think i can run it with the index even when recommended specs for the index is 1070?
That'll work, my 1070 is too much even for vr. Doesn't even use a lot of the gpu usage
VRAM doesn't matter much in vr, as most games don't really push high quality since the displays aren't really "sharp"
Index has a higher res than the standard rift and vive. It might downsample for you out of the box as SteamVR does that, but you can experiment with Hz and sampling.
Unless you supersample then you'll use up your entire gpu and studder in game
@quick kayak alright, so if I down sample a bit, it should be able to work. that's good, then i dont have to rush to buy a new one (gonna do it eventually as it is planned)
And definitely with vrchat
Of course, I'm not saying go for 1 or 2, but yeah, you need at least some. My bad.
256mb vram gpu is good enough? jk I getcha
When all else fails restart the computer
If it fails after that something is definitely wrong
@lost cobalt I looked up alittle and as far as I can see, a lot of people supersample their 1060s on Vive and Rift to 1.4 and 1.5, which is pushing over 4million pixels. I think the 1060 will suffice. Not sure about it pushing 120Hz, but the Index is backwards compatible, so you can toggle 90Hz.
@quick kayak That sounds perfect, if I can run it at 90Hz i'll be completly fine with that
It depends on the game as well ofc, but it's always good to start with base 1.0 and work your way down till your performance is good, as well as your clarity on screen.
@quick kayak alright so just experiment with it, but in theory it should be sufficient for me
Even if you downsample to Rift quality resolution, you're still getting the benefit of having full RGB and higher native res, which means higher pixel density, so it'll still look good.
@quick kayak That sounds perfect, then I don't have to use a lot more money to buy a new graphics card. Thank you for the clarification
Yeah, and like I said, I've know people that used a 970 to play VR, obvs not perfect, but it worked fine, a 1060 is a bit more powerful and more efficient than that, so in terms of streaming things between the gpu, such as how much can it push per sec, as well as how fast can it do it, that's a good benefit as well.
perfect 😄
Go to random chat @lost cobalt
i have a 1080 is that good
@vocal shard that should be plenty
went in vr and now i can click quick menu buttons
go into one of the portal or go near the mirror in the middle and you should be able to then.
@vocal shard 1080 is more than enough for vr
i love the murder game so much
Hi
@slate verge i was like to try it is look fun but someone use dic and all the vr program got freez
Cuz u need many ppl like 7 i think ?
i think so
Is kind late for me i need go sleep for get to work about 7hr lats play it tommrow if u feel like it
gn!~
Thanks 😁
hey
Hi
what up
What's the best game to play?:
Vrchat
What
You asked what the best game to play is
Ohhh
Probably murder
Murder mystery in vrchat :)
honorable mention: greande world and grenade world 2 with RPGs
bring like 8 drunk people with you
There's a flaw with that plan @desert stratus
Wtf, i cen't undorstend ane ward yuo siad (👌 )
@desert stratus
I don't have 3 friends, nevermind 8 😂 😭
Who playing vrchat rn?
God I wish that were me
^^
Headset machine broke
My game keeps saying VRChat not responding.
im probably gonna reinstall the game. cas its become sooo buggy all of a sudden that i cant even play it anymore without it kicking me out
it seems to loose packages when im tabbed into the game cas i see the ping constantly rising then when i tab out and take a look its back to 176 ping. have i broken something
@floral quiver have you tried deleting the cache?
WTB: VRChat update that uses Unity's garbage collection system properly.
No reason the game should still be using 14GBs of RAM after leaving a session.
Hey
Hey, how do I view my hours played in this game?
@slate verge tried everything. restarting my internet, pc game cashe internet test ping test. everything is good But VRChat
@floral quiver try deleting the cache
Don't delete the cache clear it
delete/clear
I said that so he doesn't just click delete on the cache lul
oh
You'd be surprised how literally people take things
please do then
@fossil granite you on steam?
if not, then there's no real way to tell
@mighty cradle I am
It says how many hours you've played next to the play button
Anyone want to be friends?
weird question you have there...
lol
meanwhile I've sent in my output logs to Aev via email(gmail) and i'm waiting...oh so patiently..
Because i wanna know what the hecc is wrong with my client.
What's wrong with it
Tried all methods. fresh install. Etc.
Again what's wrong
Well. all loading times are extremely slow. game pops up with "VRchat not responding" and then next thing "Hi this is an announcement" and then a buncha spam lettering with a loading bar thats just 0.00gb or whatever thats underneath.
but at first its 0.00% with no GB at all
Clear your cache restart your router try using a vpn and change your dns
I've cleared my cache, i've restarted my router. I usually use Hamachi but i turned it off now knowing it does cause problems. So i dunno what else i can do.
Have you changed your dns
If I'm remembering correctly i have it changed to 1.1.1.1 >.>
Not much else you can do then
I don't know then.
Only thing i can do is wait for dev help because i'm out of ideas myself.
Huh... seems like other people are having the same exact issue
The things i said to do above fix that issue for a lot of people not sure why it isn't working for you
#MakeBullyMod

Not a good idea
I wonder what would happen if i changed my DNS back to normal.
Might help
If it does i'll say.
gl
mhm
@fiery delta change it to 8.8.8.8 and make sure to check the box that says something about verifying or testing
then ok out of that entire box set
when done, it'll test that dns and apply it right away
would that work?
if this is a DNS issue, it will
whith i find very unlikely
a vpn would be harmful to troubleshooting actually
actually a vpn is reccomended to try every single time someone has an issue :D
and thats why i'm not using Hamachi at this time- oh...
then whoever is saying that needs to be shot
No. it fixes it for a ton of people.
"fixes it"
in fact using a vpn is reccomended in general for vrchat use
you may wanna reconsder what this phrase means
I feel like i should try psiphon and see.
...
Yes. It makes the connect issues that stop people from playing, go away.
"reccomended in general"
The devs themselves will even say use a vpn.
what?
Yeah it's recommended so people won't be able to pull your ip in game
"won't be able to pull your ip"
Recomended, because there are people on vrchat who can grab your ip and ddos you. not a big deal, but for some it's enough to want to use it.
Good for you then
ok you arent but some people are, because people can get DDOS'd and have been.
The connection issues have been around for awhile and the last resort is a vpn and that works a solid 9 times outta 10, because it can be a weird ip issue
my isp actually happens to have NAT sinkholes or whatever it's called making this a non-issue for me
We have people who are IT's here, who give user support and suggest that.
for you. but an issue for most people. you arent the majority
I dont use a vpn because I dont care, but ive had people pull me to the side and tell me my ip location and that I should use one,
i hate these sinkholes because i can't do connections back home unless i now pay for a static ip
i know that if someone does tell me, i'm just gonna ask them to try hacking me
they cant hack you with an ip..
and wait for them to run into a shell they have no fucking clue how to even use
If they have your ip, they can only ddos you. thats all the damage it does.. fixed with a simple router reset
Ips arent a hacking device.
by "hack" i mean hack into my computer
That's not possible
which can be done via IP
...and that is in fact the exact thing you need to target someone
Do you know what an ip is?
Unless you click on a link that gives them remote access you can't "hack" into a persons pc
Can I get a source on that then
And Ip is your internets.. ima call it server area. It is accessed by a broad amount of people. it gives you the general location of where the device is. you cannot hack, through that.
literally any single remote hack ever is your source
how do company databases get leaked?
machines are hacked into
things are hacked into but its not via ip
it's not a "suspicious link"
...yes, it is
ip =/= location
wha you're saying is that you can't find where a person lives to break into their house by their address
an ip isnt an exact address.
...except that's exactly what you have: the location of their house
No you do not.
You cannot get a house address through ip.
That wasn't a good idea rea
I was saying that, if someone knew your street address, that they could break into your house
Idc if I get ddosed my internet is dynamic
what you were saying with ips
is akin to saying "just because you know the address my house is at doesn't mean you know where it is to break into it"
Corner of David Avenue @covert linden ?
...
rip
he cant bully me with a public ip that others use im not the only one
do you know what the role of the address on your house is?
I meant to say hack but yknow what, he cant bully me either
do you know the role of IPs in the TCP/IP protocol?
do you know what a MAC address is?
"Dont try a vpn"
they said
"IPscan get you hacked"
they said
do you know how DNS even works?
man typo I meant ip
IPs ARE the address of your computer on the internet
or, if you're not your senile old man, your network
this complicates things slightly, unless there's a teen in the house forwarding ports
FTP is a common thing to forward
and having direct access to port 21 is enough to break into that specific machine via the FTP server alone
Oooooo kay. its not an IP or DNS problem. because i tried with psiphon 3 and nothin'. Nada. So ree to that.
Same lack of quick loading
Hi
Sipping on lemonade and lurking this wonderful chat uwu 
Ah i'd suggest to contact support@vrchat.com then
Already did that
if nothing is forwarded, then you'll need the router first, and these are hilariously easy to break into, provided the idiots who made it left interfaces open to the internet (which is an almost guaranteed case)
do you derive all that you know from that website?
i derive what i know from actually toying with this stuff
including, but not limited to, pentesting tools
i can link a quick demo of how this kinda thing goes down
Hi
@covert lindeni suggest you watch this and then tell me IPs are not what you use to hack machines with
why not use a vpn: if you are diagnosing any issue, you want as few variables as possible
vpns are an extra variable
if you have thinned out all optional variables, and are still having issues, that tells you all that you removed was not the issue
VPNs, in this instance, are a workaround to a problem that doesn't get fixed with one
OSHA won't be happy if you use a broom or two to replace the broken-off half of your stairs, but your contract demands you change that damn lightbulb
so you're gonna use those two brooms
Whenever i look at the debug log i just see "Settings version is not 1" and i have no idea what it means.
just casually slurping dijon like the war criminal she is
no one knows? ok.
i'll prod you in a mo mate
Pffff
😏
Yo what up
hotdog still not through hole
what
I am playing minecraft
build me a computer
Hi
when you just trying to play vrchat and you see two people slurping on each other violently in the middle of the room and your mom comes in your room and
Oof
yeah
Do u guys know what a little is
negitve
which part?
. . .
who wants to play vrchat I'm bored
I use desktop version
I have a phone
Ya
But they don’t have it on my phone I have it on my pc witch my parents are always coming into my room
oop
@lusty garnet i mean in minecraft
build me a computer or other neat machine and i'll be right with you spooling up some tape memory
i did
I'll build one
Why
👍
I just wanted to be friends that’s all
the reason is you sent me unsolicited dms and added me out of absolutely nowhere and didn't use the server, instead opting to metaphorically bust the door down and ask for friendship
that's kinda rude mate
Actually I did use the server
did we talk here? no? did you ask me for a dm? did i ask you for one? for an add? nope
uh.
same Viktor
It hurts because of the argument going on currently >.>
Cheetah
Oh she probably just left
What is that link
Oh
@lusty garnet in minecraft god damnit
wait
lol is some one p*st
oh ok. give me a bit
Lol
in Minecraft, not for
booting up the minecrafts
bonus points for own design and maybe a texan write or two
settings version is not 1 Still confusing.
here tho
@fiery delta alright, so sanity check
what OS, using beta or not Steam, VRC beta? any pelicularities?
outdated drivers and so?
also, reading that exploit ips thing right now
right off the bat, it gets several things incredibly wrong
"hackers are just internet vandals"
my instant reaction was a facepalm and internal screaming at how someone operating this kind of website can be that undereducated on what the phrase even means
because the "online vandal" could literally not be further from the truth
most of that caste are divided into two sects, essentially white and black hats
black hats cause damage for personal gain, or are hired by some other seedy entity in the underworld to cause said damage, often for hefty sums of cash
and the reason they're hired is not because they're vandals, but people that know what the hell they're doing
a vandal won't be using an ion cannon from space to fuck up the white house, nor will they be using a cannon to blow up a fuel refinery
white hats are the opposite in intention; they search for issues and vulnerabilities in order to let the software vendor know about it; they're the good side of the moral coin
the bad side, when searching for things like these, don't let vendors know (for which the only real motivation is bug bounties), but instead sell information on the black market
this information, for serious enoguh zero days (vulnerabilities the vendor is unaware of) can reach bidding prices of millions of dollars, compared to bug bounties by big companies that rarely get into the six figures
an excellent example of white hats: google's project zero
My vrc isn't beta either.
an excellent example of black hats: the lazarus group, amongst others
as for the explanation of ports: a more eloquent way to put it is that square pieces only go into square holes; imagine these different shapes having "numbers" in them; of course there exists software without a "filter plate" like this to catch only one shape, but anything you're gonna be using daily requires this; you're not gonna want a random file transfer filling out your login credentials on accident, for instance
as for the rooms analogy: this is not entirely correct; in fact, if you do get in via a port, what you usually also have access to is a shell, which means these walls, in essence, don't exist; however there are parts of that whole building which are locked behind security measures, and those can be bypassed as well, to escalate your privileges in the building
which then, obviously, allows you access to these "secure" parts
however, by default, essentially every port that's opened by a program or service is open; a firewall is merely a lock on these doors, mostly there to alret you of access like a stranger knocking at the door
the firewall might identify them somewhat, and based on where it's from and whether you're expecting that specific stranger, you can either let them in or turn them away
DONE
as for a VPN: if they do an MITM and can actually crack the VPN's encryption (and, considering that they use alarmingly few primes to do encryption overall, this is a likely scenairo) then its entire protections are moot as they can basically see each end of the route, and nullify all the protection one is supposed to offer
this, however, is damn near impossible with tor; pretty good reason too since it's an us navy initiative
I know this is not the support channel but I am going nuts trying to find an answer to my problem. Working on a fully custom avatar (made from ground up in blender) and everything works upon import into VRchat except the eyes. The problem is if I set up the eyes to work for me locally with a mirror they don't work for others (the eyes will be facing the wrong direction).
@prisma briar i think there's avatar channels
also: "you can't take it with you"; mobile data begs to differ
I'll go check one of those.
@prisma briar they're far more likely to help than here, being topical and all
@lusty garnet show me the machine and what it can do
I Just Joined Can i Have A Grand Welcome Or No?
I Feel like i should record the crap i go through with my game on startup.
nice welcoming
welcooome to the VRChat discord!
sOlar wdym cute pics
@fiery delta so, updated drivers to make sure they are there?
tried wiping the VRC cache manually?
every method
🤔
What?
that is exactly how you do not update drivers
I Mean i did recently use the "Geforce experience" updater. which.. I actually need to use again, i'll be damned.
uninstall it
manually update from nvidia's site
(provided you have an nvidia gpu, that is)
Yeahhh grab all ur updates from the source lmao
VRChat is still relevant right?
wdym
Yes what do u means
i'll keep it relevant on my own if i have to
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/485903287317561345/589691974496288778/hrs_boi.PNG
wow almost 10k users online in vrchat
It's a summer weekend
There are 8922 users in VRChat currently
sidebar broke?
yeah
rip vrcbot
it was 9k when i saw it, thats why i said it was almost 10k
!online
There are 8915 users in VRChat currently
wtf why does it say 1465 on the sidebar
probably ui not updating, if you restart discord it could update for you
hey,
hi
does anyone know how to play movies on video player from sites
might wanna drop that Q in #world-development
his sleep map is still relevant altho every1's maing them try to change my mind
Any idea why the youtube players doesnt work for me and my friends?
either the video player in the specific world wasn't updated or instance is bugged/master is bugged
On Windows 7?
Yeah
Or maybe the first world broke so badly that you need a restart for it to work again in other worlds..
Windows doesn't work for all videos
Like half of them work, and some that work still won't have any sound.. Unless VRChat fixed that at some point
Ah
Anyone else the problem that my credentials won't be saved so i have to relogin every time I start the game?
happens occasionally but not often at all
How to fix it 🤔
Never looked into it
Hello there. It's me, I'm KR.Snipe_0019 and I will meet you all in VRChat this Monday 7/8/9a.m. on Singapore time. Peace y'all.
Eh okay?
Amazing
umm
Is the vrchat report button legit works?
You speak like a celebrity @drowsy flame
It's ok, i can share my imfamy and fame 🙏
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c5BnTMX5dX4
@upbeat knot it's there for a reason yes
It doesn't
goes online > stays in private alone
what am i dewin
hello
hello yes this is cat
which cat WaveMeow

Anyone know if there is a way to disable ASW permanently with oculus?
Debug tool resets itself upon closing
Can somone tell me if this computer I see on craigslist run vrchat well?
Orange LED gaming case
I5 processor
Video Radeon with dvi and minidisplay
16GB RAM
2x 500gb hard drives so 1TB
USB2 and Usb3
Thats says a full nothing on how good it is
An I5 should have a number behind it
We need to know that, And the GPU also is not clear
2x 500gb harddirves 
Yeah man, sorry. Money is an issue untill i start my new job. so i'm limited to what i find on craigslist
Building a pc is often still cheaper then getting one from those websites performance/money wise
And if you can build something with lego you can build a pc
does this add mean anything?
GAMING AMD FX6300 3.5GHZ SIX CORES
16 GB RAM
256 GB SSD
1 TB HD
BD-ROM DRIVE
NVIDIA GTX 960 2GB
Well, thats something completely different, but yes 
For playing in desktop mode thats fine
not for vr?
No
crud
i got a taste of vrchat at this gaming cafè and i really liked it
my jobs doesn't start untill the fall >_>
i get paid really well, so I really want to buy the best thing on the market
how much is that PC?
that one on craiglist was 600
not worth it at all, it's outdated
if u waanna be paying well for the best thing on the market i dont reccommend buying near decade-old parts
...decade old? or am ijust hallucinating?
the FX CPU's are crap you either want a ryzen of which gen 3 is comming around soon or a more modern intel
i know. i'm just being impatient. i get liek that when i find something i like
eh whatever. my go to VR reccommendation is Ryzen 2600X and 1060 6GB or 2060 equivalent
if u built it urself thats like $800 USD but you can prob find a prebuilt with specs like that for 1k
that should last u till like..gen 2?
which is still years away sooo
that's a processor? i'll keep that in mind. i have no idea how to build a computer though.
Are you able to connect lego blocks?
lol yeah i suppose
Then im fairly sure you can build a pc
i don't know what i need to buy. I would looked up mother boards, processors, ram, graphic & sound cards, and a case. That's all i know about computers, but I'm sure there's more, and I dont even kow what brands to buy
Tutorial, guides and websites all for that info
can you direct me to a good/reliable website?
start here @neon quartz https://pcpartpicker.com/
tyvm
As someone who's built a few PCs at this ooint, I dislike the "can you put Legos together" argument
It's very user friendly compared to in the past, but things are still confusing for beginners, and you can still screw up and kill components
I literally still don't know how to align an IO shield to its mobo
Look how the mobo goes in the case
Look for the inside/outside and press the shield
Look at the size of the mobo for the screws, slowly push the mobo into place within the IO shield and thats it
See, it's never worked that way for me
Unless you have the wrong IO for your case/mobo yes
I don't comprehend the fucking teeth on the shield
But then its just tapping out one of the tabs in most cases
Well thats the lego part my friend
Not really
I legit build my first pc build
Even got my sister to build one without any guidance really
Its not that hard to get your IO shield, compare it to your mobo and see how it should fit
Check in the case how it should fit and then push it in
On the IO shield, each port has these "teeth" jutting out that essentially blocks the ports from going through the shield. They're meant for grounding or some shit
Yeah, I'm aware that you align the mobo's ports with the shield, I'm not off my rocker
Most people "legit build their first PC"
Apply slight force, if that fails just punch some of the teeth
Its not smart to do but your not supposed to short the stuff you slap into your mobo anyway
And depending what port in the mobo we talk about its naturally grounded there
Slight force was never enough lol, I've literally had to take pliers and bend the teeth away because you couldn't push the ports through
That's how it was on my build, and it was similar for both of my friends'. The teeth sooner stab into the ports than do what I guess they're supposed to, which is surround them
vrchat is still going strong right? like it won't die suddenly when i get the means to buy all this crap by octoberish
Games more active then it's been rn
Also not like VR is just Vrchat
Loads of fun games on desktop VR that can get you also a high amount of play hours
iima jump on in 20min or so who wants to join
hi
Long time no see guys....
who plays on steam here'
me
I do, but not often
y
Okay.... #ignored
u wanna play?
I wanna play vr wit u
I'll just go back where I came from..
let me jump on and i serch but i have some things to do befor i set up
u wanna join?
@maiden meteor comne with us
Ehh... I can't anyways, I'm at my grandmother's for a few hours anyways...
oof
wanna call retro
ok imma jump in now
@maiden meteor Where'd you come from?
What do you mean?
honestly, im more into the whole social aspect of vr. i still prefer my games 2d
it would be dope if they create a vr mmorpg
orbus vr reborn is apparently a good vrmmorpg now if ur interested
I'll just go back where I came from
Orbus seems, eh, sufficient at best imo
Very much a barebones MMORPG experience that happens to be VR in nature, rather than being a developed game that's augmented by the strengths of VR
hey guyz why is there a new hub again
its been new for a bit now
but still why did they make another one
quest users
heeey im new and im looking for friends
The hub will now change on a bimonthly basis
i'll have to check out the differences
hello
ey bois
It won't let me use gestures
ahahaha
hi
does anyone know how to create custom characters/models? i need some help with it. dm me if you want to help
@inner whale take it to #avatars-2-general , got some serious helpers there
hey i dont know why but its taking a really long time for me yo load into worlds any fixes?
ok sorry
it says the world is 100% but i stil cant login to my home
the go buttonndoesnt apear
I have a small question, ^^'
So I created an account to save a name for another account (I had to wait the 3 month delay to rename because of a misspelling)
so now that this 3 month delay is finished I I changed the name on the other account to free the name I wanted. but apparently the account name is still considered as registered regardless of the fact that I changed it.
So alright let just delete it, but it also turn out that you can't delete accounts.. So what could I do ? ^^'
my worldz still wont load
Is vrchat gunna be compatible with the valve index?
Once a name is used, it can't be used again, even if changed. Your best bet might be to email the team at support@vrchat.com
Maybe something can be done @wraith knot
Yes triston
How will that work?
With finger tracking
Wow that was faat
someone help me
How will jestures work?
gestures*
The controllers will have 2 modes. One that is just full finger tracking, and one that can trigger animations with gestures. It toggles by a button
Oh sick thanks
@vocal shard ah alright, thanks for the help (=

VRChat?
._. why didnt you just use the name you wanted to use on that account in the first place.. theres no benefit for an account to be made at a later time
@wraith knot
When you have a maths test and cant study of focus
Time to lock your self in vrchat box world and do all the equations there
get tilt brush and work on a virtual white board?
@plush osprey I obviously didn't knew about the fact that we couldn't delete account or first name would be locked, but the base idea was just to protect a specific nickname on another account while the rename timer pass on the main account so that in theory I can guarantee this specific nickname for the main account.
but it doesn't matter I'll just keep the misspelled username as a joke on myself.
i am wondering if there's any benefit to a vrchat account logged in from the Quest... i have my passthrough account, and would like to keep that too.
alright
try and make new friends
that is sad
$20? what?
whaaaa
Hey guys

hiya
Heyo
A friend is doing a special "Blind Run" challenge in Luxerion world.
The quirk being that, in this case "Blind Run" instead means using the blind girl avatar. xD
He's been at it for over 3 hours so far.
I'm in an infinite stair room riding a broom
sure
lol
it may or may not be dangerous depending on the idiot running about at the time
though its usually more safer with "Friends with guest/Friends+"
well the friends with guest/friends+ is also random, but are friends from your friends
that way you are less likely to encounter crashers
Hello
finding fun randoms too is hard enough
Hmm?
finding a public world that turns out fun is hard enough
or fun ppl
no offense, just feeling down and sad
well technically it all depends on the people and whatever they are doing, some are serious talks, some are depressed, some talks about jokes
i usually found them via joining my friends worlds
woulda done that but mine were all in private, public or didnt know them well enough
wouldnt be in publics otherwise, yknow
awww darn...
going to publics alone is like the last ditch effort to find something to do
you'd be surprised everyone starts off alone just to get recognize with new people
oh i know, ive met many great ppl from publics
im sure i wouldve tonight if i had the patience or willing to keep playing
oh....then there is always tomorrow
sorry that it didn't go well today for you.
like you said, always tomorrow
yeah! we have much much time
just a shitty mood tonight
there are some of those shitty days where your mood is ruined and its understandable
my day is good everyday, even though i get crashed sometimes or just lagged out it doesn't bother me as much.
glad to hear
most of the people i've met so far are top class


